gb news. >> it's 9 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight at. terrifying scenes in oldham. >> we are coming for you in the general election . anyway, he's general election. anyway, he's got a mid—term . got a mid—term. >> why do labour want to win this lot back? but hang on, debility is not an active policy, is it? >> well, it has to be. now labour don't even know what their own policies are. >> and harry won't meet the king. but who rejected who also who make me dizzy from your kisses. >> will you take my hand? >> will you take my hand? >> it's all eurovision . act >> it's all eurovision. act doesn't love our union flag. plus . countless illegal plus. countless illegal immigrants are on the run. and what happens next here? hey, hey

, come . all my panel tonight is , come. all my panel tonight is political commentator patrick o'flynn. tory deputy chairman jonathan gullace and author amy nicole turner. oh, yes. and would you be seen dead in this , would you be seen dead in this, they get worse than that. get ready. britain here we go. apparently, we've imported thousands of usain bolt's . next. thousands of usain bolt's. next. >> very good evening. from the gb newsroom. it'sjust gone. gb newsroom. it's just gone. 9:00. leading the news tonight, former conservative leader sir iain duncan smith says he's concerned the government hasn't pointed the finger at china for a cyber attack on the ministry of defence. the defence secretary has only said state involvement can't be ruled out.

beijing strongly denied it was behind the hack, calling the accusations completely fabricated . up to 272,000 fabricated. up to 272,000 british personnel may have had their details compromised while speaking in the house of commons earlier, grant shapps said it shows the world is, he says, becoming a more dangerous place for reasons of national security. >> we can't release further details of the suspected cyber activity behind this incident . activity behind this incident. however, i can confirm to the house that we do have indications that this was the suspected work of a malign actor and we cannot rule out state involvement in this incident is further proof that the uk is facing rising and evolving threats . threats. >> grant shapps they're speaking in the commons this afternoon. well in scotland, john swinney has arrived at his new official residence after the scottish parliament voted for him to replace humza yousaf as first minister. he was backed by 64 of

his colleagues and his name will now be submitted to the king. he's promised to give everything he has to the role. we've heard tonight that a five month old boy who suffered a cardiac arrest at legoland windsor in an alleged incident of child neglect, has died in hospital. the 27 year old woman, from essex, was arrested at the resort and has since been released on bail. police say they're not seeking any other suspects, though detectives from the child abuse unit are now asking anyone with information, particularly those at legoland's coastguard hq boat ride on thursday afternoon to come forward . israeli troops have forward. israeli troops have seized the gaza side of the rafah border crossing. the israelis are pushing ahead with an offensive on the city, in a move that international leaders are calling a dangerous escalation in the conflict. it's after benjamin netanyahu said the terms of the latest ceasefire deal were far from meeting israel's core demands, a spokesperson for the us state department, though, insists a dealis department, though, insists a deal is still absolutely

achievable in the us. stormy daniels has told a court that donald trump told her that having sex was the only way she was going to get out of a trailer park. the former adult film star has been revealing intimate details of her alleged encounter with the former president, as she testifies at his hush money trial. she claimed that he wore satin pyjamas when he greeted her at his hotel suite, before she was asked to spank him. the former president denies having sex with miss daniels and 34 counts of falsifying business records . and falsifying business records. and finally, before we hand back to patrick, the 68th eurovision song contest is officially underway tonight at the malmo arena in sweden. 15 countries are competing in the first of this year's semi—finals. the uk's olly alexander automatically goes through to the finale, along with last year's winner sweden and the other big five. that's germany, spain , france, italy and the uk. spain, france, italy and the uk. but bookmakers have croatia, switzerland and ukraine as the top three favourites to win .

top three favourites to win. those are the headlines. i'll be back at 10:00 with another update. until then, you can sign update. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com slash alerts . to gbnews.com slash alerts. >> more than 21,000 asylum seekers have gone missing in britain over the past five years. the real number, by the way , will be much, much higher. way, will be much, much higher. the fact is, they've legged it, they're on the run and they're out committing. goodness only knows what kind of crimes. but that's not the official line . do that's not the official line. do you want to know what the official line is? >> so do we now know what's happened to the remainders who have no legal basis on which to still be in the united kingdom? the home office, through our different mechanisms of tracing people are continuing to seek to trace them. >> so when people do disengage, and i think that's a more accurate word than gone missing, when people do disengage from us, we respond to that . us, we respond to that. >> they've not disengaged. mr

cleverly , the vast majority of cleverly, the vast majority of them had their claims rejected and then ran off because we're not deporting them quickly, and they're not going to just sit there and wait for you to come and get them in a few years time of the 21,000 missing migrants, almost 9500 of them were found to have vanished from their last known addresses between january and september last year alone. no wonder the prime minister is saying he's clearing the backlog . should i tell you how easy it is to lose these people if they don't turn up for an interview twice, they change their phone number. they don't fill in a questionnaire. twice they move address or they change their lawyer without informing the home office. that's it. is it any wonder, though, when you've got these civil service chuckle brothers running the show behind the scenes? >> what foreign offenders aside and albanians aside, just forget about those numbers. >> how many people travelling on small boats has been refused asylum , have been sent to a asylum, have been sent to a third country or back to their own country of the past three

years? >> i don't think we have. >> i don't think we have. >> i don't think we have. >> i don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers, mr anderson. >> that's quite that's staggering. that's actually very so okay, then let's do for the last year , i don't have a number last year, i don't have a number for non—albanian families . for non—albanian families. >> perhaps they might be able to help you. >> let's do last week then . >> let's do last week then. >> let's do last week then. >> do we have any figures about anything ? anything? >> that's simon ridley and matthew rycroft. there mr ridley is the second permanent secretary, a career civil servant with absolutely no chance of ever getting sacked , chance of ever getting sacked, whose job is leading the migration and border system. mr rycroft, the permanent secretary to the home office, is also the civil service race champion back of the net. i suppose that's one way of getting the diversity quotas up. mr rycroft, ridley and rycroft, the world's worst law firm. that's what it sounds like. doesn't it know when

double the fee, the civil service chuckle brothers starring in the benny hill sketch that is our attempt to keep track of illegal immigrants who are on the run. this 21,000 missing figure is likely much higher, because apparently that number only includes the main applicant in each family and does not include spouses, children or other dependents. so the government doesn't need any help endangering our lives. but now we've got this lot popping up the anti raid group. so they come with a picture of an immigration van on fire with smashed windows, a link to a whatsapp group to get people to help you stop an immigration unit. numbers. they're for legal services as well. so look, the next time this happens, all right. where an illegal immigrant stabs a woman to death with a meat skewer in front of her children. i hope those people are very happy . the fact people are very happy. the fact is, the home office couldn't catch a cold. let alone an illegal immigrant. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i am joined by columnist and political commentator patrick o'flynn. i've got the deputy chairman of

the conservative party, jonathan gullace, an author and broadcaster. amy nicholl turner, jonathan, they're on the run, aren't they? >> well, look, patrick, it's slightly more complicated than what has been described. i think it's important to understand that some of these people are asylum seekers who have left the country, actually gone to places like ireland that we've seen reports of also to other european countries. others have withdrawn their application. some have pursuing other avenues in which to stay. and of course, some have actually restarted the whole process again. so, you know, there is nuance in this, but it does just underline the important fact of why we need to have an effective deterrent in rwanda, which would stop and deter people from unnecessarily choosing to put thousands of poundsin choosing to put thousands of pounds in the hands of smugglers in order to get across to this country illegally. >> you've got ridley and rycroft behind the scenes. i mean, what are you watching ? are you watching? >> i'm not here to defend those two, and i and i won't be, to be perfectly frank, i think the answer, the fact they couldn't give an answer to lee anderson at the select committee was utterly appalling. and

embarrassing, and shows really contempt for parliament in the sense of they should have been actually coming with all the facts and the figures, and didn't obviously expect any normal questions. i don't didn't obviously expect any normal questions . i don't know normal questions. i don't know what they thought they were going to be able to get away with. it's like the worst version of yes minister playing out before our very eyes. but let's go back to this important point. the prime minister has done the deal with france to stop. we know 23,000 vessels crossing the channel last year. he's done returns, agreements with countries like albania, which saw 93% drop. and once we get rwanda flights off the ground, we will have that world leading deterrent that costs so much money, doesn't it? it will actually cost a drop in the ocean compared to the billions that we're spending, which andrew jenkins pointed out earlier. and more importantly, once the deterrent is working, we'll have fewer people attempting to come over here, which means we'll have less pressure on the nhs, less pressure on the nhs, less pressure on the nhs, less pressure on schools, less pressure on schools, less pressure on schools, less pressure on accommodation, more importantly, less pressure on the home office, who quite frankly, obviously are having to work hard. >> the point is, unless you decide to deport someone immediately after you've rejected them, they are going to leg it , rejected them, they are going to leg it, aren't rejected them, they are going to leg it , aren't they? rejected them, they are going to leg it, aren't they? and that's what they're doing. and we can't deport them, can we? >> and you know, jonathan says

it's like the worst episode of yes, minister. >> well, i'm afraid james cleverly is playing jim hacker, trying to say trying to stick to the civil service jargon rather than admit the shambles that's going on. you know, i'd hoped he he would be a bit cleverer than that, you know, as the name cleverly might suggest. but he seems to have been bought into the institutional failure of the home office. he doesn't inspire me with any confidence . he's me with any confidence. he's getting a grip. i think the british public kind of understand and always expected that people would leg it right, and there'd be teething problems. and the key thing is, do we get this? what the prime minister recently described as this drumbeat of flights and removals , this remorseless, removals, this remorseless, cumulative deterrent to stop the boats. while there's no sign of the boat stopping at the moment, they're running ahead of, last yeah they're running ahead of, last year. everything's going into reverse. you know, july is, we are told, early july is the key point when this starts. yes. there are some people going over

the border from northern ireland to the republic and maybe that shows there could be a deterrent effect. but you know, the british public have been hearing this for half a decade from the tories and they're very sceptical. if it doesn't work in july, i'm afraid you're toast, amy. >> does it concern you that we've got at least 21,000 mostly young men on the run somewhere in britain ? in britain? >> yeah. the reason why it concerns me mainly is because all these people on the whole, arrive with the ambition to participate in our society, and that's an opportunity for them and an opportunity that presumably, you mean take from the welfare state? no, i don't i mean work and contribute to our society , which is the whole society, which is the whole reason they're here. i don't know why you're smirking because you go on about economic migrants. that would be the reason. because they want to further their their lives and the drug trade. so you can't make that assumption. i think thatis make that assumption. i think that is absolutely, exactly. they know that. but that's what if you allowed us if you let me finish my point, if you let me we've ever seen. no, it wouldn't for years and years and years

we've have been saying the same old arguments about being full, about needing to deter people . about needing to deter people. it's not going to happen. we're the sixth richest country in the world. we know we're not. we need to fulfil our responsibilities. most people will still see asylum in their neighbouring country. will still see asylum in their neighbouring country . amy. we neighbouring country. amy. we take a tiny proportion of asylum seekers . why don't we just admit seekers. why don't we just admit that these people could be of merit to themselves and to us, instead of constantly wasting wasting money on border force on imagine what they could do in their own country. >> just imagine what they could do for their own countries, economies if they stayed there, and all that amazing talent that could, you know, be unleashed. so why those countries to be, you know, fully developed? or can we just accept the fact that these are predominantly young men in their 20s leaving women and children behind, which shows they really aren't leaving a war torn country or caring for their or compassionate and essentially want to come here because we have an nhs, we have a free education system. we have obviously a welfare state that's very generous compared to other countries. >> search into migration suggests that they don't know about this benefit system before they arrive here. secondly, who

does the research? you have had problems with people putting their children in the boats, but then you also have a problem with people not putting their children in the boats. so i'm not sure which one you want to. >> i don't want anyone in any boats. i want no boats. i want to see no boats at the moment. >> because. because of your religious. because of your rwanda scheme, people are now getting in boats to come back across the channel. so if you don't want people in boats, why is this policy in place? >> because they will have a deterrent effect. it has on people. and actually people shouldn't have been choosing to get in boats in the first place. the boats are up if they want to go back on last. if they want. well, let's let's wait till the end of the year because it's a year on year statistic. and actually we're 30% down in 2023. and what we were on 2022. and once we get these fights off after the lefty lawyers get out of the way, then we can finally find these people that are missing. >> this is the thing they've scratched them off the list. basically, they've said, okay, they're missing. they've disengage. all right. so they're now off the backlog list as far as i can tell, which is probably as i can tell, which is probably a good thing for the prime minister. what are they doing to find these people? >> well, we had a massive

increase in raids that are going in, from the home office, which has actually meant that we've seen a far more people being incarcerated and detained, which is a good thing. the second thing is we're actually increasing our detention capacity now. 2200 spaces and more to still come, which is again, the right thing to do because the prime minister has made it clear if you come here illegally, you will be detained, then you will be deported. and of course, once we get the rwanda up and going, rwanda scheme up and going, you'll people will see that happening quickly, which happening very quickly, which will as it is the will be a positive as it is the deterrent. so there are things that are going on in that way in order to try and catch that. but of course, these organised criminal gangs as well, which are quite complicated. that's why national crime agency why the national crime agency has million has received about 800 million additional to work, not additional funding to work, not just in this country, but also with our partners in europe to make sure we tackle the gangs at source, which is going have source, which is going to have a big impact well. yeah this is big impact as well. yeah this is a massive national security issue that we have at least 20,000 in the last five years on the run. >> goodness knows where and when. people, especially women, by the way, say, okay, you're going to plonk an asylum hotel or a processing centre in my town or in my housing estate, which has happened. they have got every right to be scared, haven't they? >> this is becoming a massive issue with women in britain who are finally feeling free to

begin to talk about it, because people like you are putting in freedom of information requests. they're not being answered about asylum seekers and sexual offending, but it's a perfectly reasonable hypothesis to think if you bring in tens of thousands of young men from countries which are misogynistic, which are pre—feminist, who have which have bad attitudes to women and the young men coming in, you know, with no kinship ties with the british people, that you're asking for trouble and people are becoming, unfortunately , are becoming, unfortunately, that's all it is. >> it's a hypothesis at the moment. there's nothing to back up what you've just said and all it does, they won't stop it. what they are just stokes hatred and bigotry towards asylum seekers who are just trying to have a normal life. and especially if you were one of the 21, if you were one of the 21,000, back up, if you were one of the if people from vastly different cultures and societies have a different view, you show me this statistic. >> okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> so of actual sexual assaults based on nationality, the ones from sweden are not accurate.

they report rape in a completely different way. >> denmark . >> denmark. >> denmark. >> and also we do the research actually persecuted because it was so inaccurate. was so inaccurate. >> was so inaccurate. >> what we do have, amy, is because unfortunately , at the because unfortunately, at the moment, the government is refusing to actually reveal the number of people who are asylum seekers will be pending visa applications, who are in prison or wanted for sexual assaults. what we do have is anecdotal evidence, anecdotal evidence, but that's all we're allowed to get, which is why i will ask you to get more and more anecdotal evidence, such from ireland and it's fake. >> and then it's actually all you need. >> amy. no, there's a lot of it is false. >> have you heard about in germany, where they had the hoaxes of millions of people, not millions , thousands of not millions, thousands of people saying, well, i heard about cologne. have you seen social media and all these? and social media and all these? and so one on social media, there was an example of a man who was a migrant walking into a hospital innocently that's cctv. so when's the thing on the internet move into your house, by the way? i just, i just how is that an just out of interest? because that is the all that you're doing here is stoking ill feeling towards asylum. >> it's not it's a matter of national security .

national security. >> and jonathan's a man. >> and jonathan's a man. >> you are a man. very, very, very sorry that you don't seem to care as much about women's rights and personal safety in this country as many people do. i find that absolutely astonishing. >> i think this is the only time that i've heard you care about violence against women and sexual assault against women when it involves a generalisation about a group of people that you don't like . people that you don't like. >> that's not true, because i am literally trying to get that freedom of information, said it's a hypothesis, right? >> i say, for the reasons i set out , it's a >> i say, for the reasons i set out, it's a reasonable hypothesis. will you at least agree with patrick that the ministry of justice and the home office should publish all the data they hold about? >> sure. fine, fine. but i don't think it will be helpful at all. >> you don't think it'll be helpful? probably. possibly not to your cause, no, but look, coming up after labour's resounding victory at the local election was overshadowed by widespread victories for pro—palestine muslim councillors like this chap from bradford . like this chap from bradford. >> we are coming for you in the general election. any nick gibb will keir starmer be too weak to stand up to the dangerous

demands of muslim activists? >> co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani offers his expert analysis. but next it's time for the head to head. in a sad indictment of modern britain, the uk's eurovision entry has branded the union jack divisive and nationalistic . here's and nationalistic. here's a reminder of who he is. >> don't you make me dizzy from your kisses, will you take my hand and spin ? hand and spin? >> so in light of olly alexander slamming our nation's great flag, i'm asking, have young brits been indoctrinated to believe that patriotism is a bad thing? the fizz member in 1981, eurovision winner cheryl baker goes head to head with comedian james baker. that's next. and as patrick christys tonight, stay tuned

welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news, we got off to a lively start. there. coming up. would labour be unwise to try to appease muslim activists? but first, have young brits been indoctrinated to believe that patriotism is a bad thing? it's time now for the head to head . time now for the head to head. and britain's eurovision representative, olly alexander, has hit the headlines after he said that the union flag could be nationalistic and divisive. speaking ahead of saturday's eurovision final in sweden, alexander said i have an ambivalent relationship with the union jack and what that

represents to people because it can feel divisive, it can feel nationalist, but it can also feel like a representation of what's good about the uk and what's good about the uk and what makes it good. it's the inclusivity and the diversity. well, i mean, it's funny that though, isn't it? because it was only four days ago that olly was performing his eurovision song dizzy in nothing less than a union jack bikini. but it's not the first time that the singer has courted controversy. he sparked widespread condemnation in december last year when it emerged that he'd signed an open letter that accused israel of genocide and branding the country an apartheid state. clearly then, if he draped himself in the palestinian flag, he'd be lauded as a hero . but he he'd be lauded as a hero. but he sees nothing wrong with slamming our flag. so after the uk's eurovision representative, olly alexander, did say that the union jack could be seen as divisive and that he's ambivalent towards it . divisive and that he's ambivalent towards it. i'm asking, have young brits been indoctrinated to believe that patriotism is a bad thing? let me know your thoughts. you can head to gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews. while you're there, go and vote in our poll . there, go and vote in our poll. you know what to do. but first,

going head to head on this, our former eurovision winner, a member of the fizz, it's cheryl baker and the comedian and podcast host is james barr. both of you, thank you very much, cheryl. i will start with you. do you worry that young people have been indoctrinated against our own flag? >> yes, i do absolutely vie. i'm super proud of being british. i don't regard myself as english. i think the union flag is what it says . it's a union. it's it says. it's a union. it's bringing together northern ireland, scotland , wales and ireland, scotland, wales and england and to represent the united kingdom in a competition like the eurovision , the biggest like the eurovision, the biggest competition, you know, annual competition, you know, annual competition in the world. i mean, you should be super proud of it. and i know i am. i think it's a wonderful thing to have been involved in. >> when you look, james, at the kind of age demographics , the kind of age demographics, the vast majority of people who might watch eurovision as well, i wonder what it says about britain that if olly alexander came out wearing the palestinian flag , which, by the way, he may flag, which, by the way, he may well do at some point he probably would get a bigger

cheer than if he wore the flag of this country. >> i mean, i think that's a very divisive thing to say. i think if you're looking at the union jack, you've just got to look at the types of networks that drape themselves in the union jack flag, and you are one of them, and you often create conversations. >> there's also one on the screen there from bbc proms. can i just say james? and also may i just say james? it's not stopped you being paid by us for this evening , has it? so have you got evening, has it? so have you got that much of a problem? if you've got that much of a problem with it, james, then you can leave. >> but it's a fair point, though, isn't it? i mean , we though, isn't it? i mean, we have to look at where the flag is being used and people like tommy robinson are using that flag. and then also networks and people that are creating conversations online that are divisive are using that flag. so is it any is there any reason why? i mean, why do you think young people don't like it ? young people don't like it? >> right. okay. cheryl, would you like to come back to that at all? >> it's our flag, for goodness sake. every country has a flag. have a look. yeah, but olly swain going on at the moment,

the flags are flying of every single country . everybody is single country. everybody is proud to support their own flag . proud to support their own flag. why should we be different? why? why should we be different? why? why do we? why are we not proud of flying our own flag ? i know of flying our own flag? i know i am james. >> do you think? yeah go on. >> do you think? yeah go on. >> i mean, what ali said is true. he said he's ambivalent to it and he wants to redefine what our flag means because he. what does he mean by that? >> what does that mean? >> what does that mean? >> what's redefining it means that he wants to wear a union jack union flag . well, he's jack union flag. well, he's wearing a union jack bikini. that's what he means by it. he wants to take back. he wants to take back our flag for young people . people. >> did he nearly say take back control there, james? >> and you stop yourself? >> and you stop yourself? >> i think that's a lot of. >> i think that's a lot of. >> i think that's a lot of. >> i know it is. yeah. that's not. that's not. i've literally said oh, sorry. sorry. >> one at a time. one at a time. sorry, cheryl. so olly alexander are representing live at eurovision. wants to take back control of the union flag by wearing it as a bikini , that's. wearing it as a bikini, that's. what is that good mean ? what is that good mean? >> that's nonsense. what does

that mean? it's insane that i'm not allowed to wear my union flag. then i understand it. but ambivalent. and then still wear it as a bikini. that >> well, because james union jack flag is great is when the spice girls are wearing it. >> when olly alexander is wearing it as a bikini, or when it's been changed into pride colours like we're allowed to use our like that flag represents our country in lots of different ways, and ollie is right. it's important that we take it back . right. take it back. right. >> okay. well, can i just say, can i just say james? why is it james? why is it important? i mean, other countries around the world, whenever you go abroad. right. the union jack flag is one of the most popular flags all around the world. this is a competition, the eurovision song contest, that is fundamentally based on nations with borders. otherwise it wouldn't exist . otherwise it wouldn't exist. those nations have to have a flag so that you can identify what nation they are. all right, so what's wrong with us? using our own flag? >> well, there are lots of ways to identify. i mean , we're being

to identify. i mean, we're being picky. i can go on google and find out what country i'm in. i don't need necessarily to see a flag as i walk in. but i understand your point. and actually watching the semi—final tonight. by the way, cheryl, i can't believe you're not watching it. that is sacrilege. as someone that has won eurovision, watching it earlier tonight, our union jack was everywhere and it made me very proud to be british. >> oh, good. all right. okay, so some common ground, cheryl. >> we're owning it. >> we're owning it. >> all right. okay. all right. cheryl where where do you think where do you think this stems from? now this idea that, you know, the flag is inherently divisive . do you think it's what divisive. do you think it's what kids are being taught in schools? how do you see it? i don't know, and i don't understand the saying he wants to, bring it back. >> bring it back from where? where has it been? i think the whole point of the union jack is that it's a unification of the countries that make up the union, of the united kingdom. so i don't i just don't understand , i don't i just don't understand, i don't i just don't understand, i really i don't get it. >> should it should should. olly

alexander. >> cheryl. just sticking with you on this should should somebody who is, quote, ambivalent towards the flag of this country be representing this country be representing this country be representing this country at a national international singing contest? >> now, the thing is, i've read what he's quoted and yes, he has said he's ambivalent, but he's also said that he's proud to represent his country. so, you know, there's double standards all the way along. i think he's right to be represented in the country this year. i think that perhaps some of his statements were a bit silly, especially as he is wearing the union jack while he's saying these things, but , you know, if you are but, you know, if you are representing your country, you should be totally pro the united kingdom, which is the whole point of having the union jack. and so to be to say you're ambivalent and still represent the united kingdom doesn't make sense at all to me whatsoever. >> a question to cheryl, because earlier you said you didn't like being you identify as british. so does that mean that you don't like the english flag? you prefer the british flag because

it's a no no. >> i like the english flag as well. i'm very proud of being english. i was born in england, i was born in london. but i'm of mixed race because my father was my grandfather was jewish. my grandmother came from ireland. i think the united kingdom is a mixture, a complete smorgasbord to be swedish as a, as of tonight, of, of different nationalities. and i'm proud of that. and i think we should all be proud of it. we should all recognise that we're a complete mix and we should celebrate that. not not, you know, try and tearit that. not not, you know, try and tear it apart. >> okay. so, james, just a final point to you if, if i may, matt, i just want to be really clear on something here. so the, the flag under which, you know, we cracked the enigma code and defeated the nazis, you know, that could be quite shameful . that could be quite shameful. but if olly alexander wears that flag as a sequinned bikini, that is. that's that's the that's taking back control of it. is it ? >> 7- >> you 7— >> you know 7 >> you know that you're misquoting me there, and it's hilarious . misquoting me there, and it's hilarious. but that is not what i said. i think it's incredible what we did in world war two. i'm very proud of our country in

lots of different ways. and i think ollie's point stands he's ambivalent towards it when it is used in the wrong way, which happens regularly. used in the wrong way, which happens regularly . okay. happens regularly. okay. >> fair enough. all right. look, guys, thank you very much. i did enjoy just before i let you both 90, enjoy just before i let you both go, actually, cheryl , i'll start go, actually, cheryl, i'll start with you. is there any chance we might win? >> no . >> no. >> no. >> okay. >> okay. >> james, yes, i think so. we have the best staging we've ever had. sorry, cheryl, but it's a lot better than what you guys had , it's some of the best had, it's some of the best staging that eurovision has ever seen. staging that eurovision has ever seen . i do think we've got seen. i do think we've got a chance.i seen. i do think we've got a chance. i would say it's more realistic. we'd hit top ten. >> all right, all right. good stuff, guys. thank you very much . lovely stuff. that's exactly what we're after. a good head to head. so thank you very, very much . all right, right. who do much. all right, right. who do you agree with? have young brits been indoctrinate to believe that patriotism is a bad thing? rob on x says ollie should stand down. how can someone so unpatriotic represent the british people? dane on excess patriotism is a bad thing . i patriotism is a bad thing. i thought that was obvious by now. it's not as bad as nationalism ,

it's not as bad as nationalism, but the dividing lines are blurrier than ever. susan on x says, if you're going to represent the uk, that includes the flag. i hope he comes last. oh grief. okay. all right . your oh grief. okay. all right. your verdict is now in. 93% of you agree that young brits have been indoctrinated to believe that patriotism is a bad thing. 7% of you say that you haven't yet. i if it wasn't immediately obvious, completely agree with that. now coming up, prince harry is back in london, but he won't be seeing his cancer stricken father and king. despite speaking at an event just three miles away. so look, is this a snub from harry or is this a snub from the king? the editor at large of the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. she knows what's going on and she's here next. plus, i'll show you what happens when this have—a—go hero takes on a brazen thief . hero takes on a brazen thief. >> hey, hey, why ? calm down. >> hey, hey, why? calm down. >> hey, hey, why? calm down. >> but before we get to all that, after losing thousands, apparently, of muslim votes at the local elections should keir

starmer really be appeasing or wanting to appease people like this? >> we are coming for you in the general election anyway . he's dynamism. >> look, the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani, he's got a really interesting take on this, actually. he's up next. he's basically going to be saying whether or not the muslim activists are turning the screw on starmer and if he should be

welcome back to patrick christie tonight. now, despite their success at last week's local elections, labour continued to haemorrhage the muslim vote in some areas. so in 58 local council wards where more than 1 in 5 residents identify as muslim , labour's share of the muslim, labour's share of the vote was 21% down on 2021, and emboldened muslim activists have since given keir starmer a list of 18 dangerous demands they want him to meet to regain their vote. but does he really want to appease people like this? >> we are coming for you in the general election. anyone he's got, it isn't. >> he's just not my victory. this is palestine. innocent people. victory for humanity. >> stand for palestine. >> stand for palestine. >> stand for george galloway. >> stand for george galloway. >> well, the rhetoric has hardly been tough from labour frontbenchers, has it? >> i would say to them is that the better life that people want

for the palestinian people is something the labour leadership shares. if we are fortunate enough to be elected at the general election, it's a very high foreign policy priority for the labour party. >> i recognise that there are some people who didn't vote for labour next week because last week, because they did have concerns, including people in the muslim community. and i regret whenever someone decides that they can't bring themselves to vote for the labour party. and we will seek to rebuild the trust of those communities in the weeks and months ahead . the weeks and months ahead. >> the telegraph's charles moore says that labour would be unwise to appease certain muslim activists because the nature of the leftist slash islamist opposition to israel is unappeasable. well, look, here's the disgust. this is the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani. aaron, thank you very much . i aaron bastani. aaron, thank you very much. i think if i was laboun very much. i think if i was labour, i'd think i'm quite happy that they're out of the party. it's a changed labour party . why say that? you want to

party. why say that? you want to appease them and bring them in. what's your view ? what's your view? >> well, it's an interesting question, isn't it? you look , question, isn't it? you look, politics is about margins, andy street just lost out in the west midlands. and of course, there's a huge , huge muslim vote in that a huge, huge muslim vote in that part of the country. if a few thousand of those people who voted for, ahmed yaqoob and said voted for, ahmed yaqoob and said voted for, ahmed yaqoob and said voted for andy street, then it would have been a very different conversation coming out of the locals. so the same with london, you know , if sadiq khan had lost you know, if sadiq khan had lost because not enough muslims came out or not enough bame voters came out, i think labour would look at that as catastrophic . look at that as catastrophic. however, notwithstanding that actually i think labour did pretty well . this idea that the pretty well. this idea that the muslim vote en masse has left labour 21. patrick, i don't think is that high. when as you've sort of hinted at with those videos there, gaza is a very salient issue for british muslims. i would have expected something a little bit more, i have to say. and given starmer's comments on gaza in the days after october the 7th, which i thought were unwise, he actually went further than somebody like david cameron. i'm surprised 21%

isn't a higher figure. >> when you see people out there, you know, ranting and raving a bit and shouting allahu akbar and saying, you know, we're coming for you and all of this stuff, i must admit, i was quite surprised that the labour party's response to that was, we need you back . need you back. >> well, the reality is, patrick, that there are many, many seats where labour, rely on a coalition of people from ethnic minorities , students. so ethnic minorities, students. so if you think about larger cities, university towns, etc, thatis cities, university towns, etc, that is the bedrock of their vote. it's a bit like over, over 60s going to their garden centre in the home counties for tories. you know, that's a big part of their vote in many, many, not a bit less dangerous though the over 60s would respect, you know, are they not a little bit less fruity when it comes to some of the, you know, so appeasing appeasing the old silver surfers might be slightly less dangerous than appeasing eco or pro—palestine fanatics, maybe. no, i'm just trying.

eco or pro—palestine fanatics, maybe. no, i'm just trying . to maybe. no, i'm just trying. to i'm just trying to offer a sort of a parallel there, which is this is a big part of the of the of the labour vote. in larger cities. they tend to be younger, they tend to be from ethnic minorities. and like i say , i minorities. and like i say, i don't i actually i expected far more people to desert labour from those communities than had done so. in a way, i'm also surprised by the response, because if i was keir starmer rachel reeves, i'd take a step back and say , well, look on back and say, well, look on gaza, we've actually been arguably harsher on the palestinian side than something like david cameron . we're like david cameron. we're certainly indistinguishable. and yet we've actually managed to keep a hell of a lot of people who cared deeply about that subject. voting for us. i'm kind of surprised, you know, workers party of britain, for instance, george galloway picked up two councillors in rochdale . they councillors in rochdale. they got huge numbers, by the way, and i think he may be re—elected, but i'm surprised they didn't get more. so i you know, it's , it's, it's a, it's know, it's, it's, it's a, it's an interesting one. but i think i'm surprised with labour for different reasons to you i think and that's the point isn't it. >> they actually really as it currently stands, they don't actually need to get those people back. i know that might be like some kind of insurance

policy and obe well, if we did have all of those people, then we'd we're absolutely nailed on. fine. okay but they don't actually need them, do they? which makes it more baffling for me as to why they appear to have bent over backwards for them. now >> well, i think they look at what happened in the west midlands race. patrick and everybody's talked about andy street. he's obviously the conservative mayor for the west midlands. he lost. he'd won i think twice there. the truth is that actually the conservatives have no right to win the west midlands mayoralty. given that the composition of that part of the composition of that part of the country and the fact it was so close with a third candidate at medicube getting, i think, 12% purely running on a pro gaza ticket, i think that's really put the frighteners up labour and i think probably correctly, they're thinking worst case scenario in a general election, we could have 4 or 5, six independents running on that same ticket and actually unseating a labour mp, which is something for them to think about. >> one of the easy targets . or >> one of the easy targets. or one of the easy sticks to beat the labour party with

historically, was that, you know, they were pro mass, largely muslim immigration because they saw that as a wheelbarrow full of votes for the labour party . now keir the labour party. now keir starmers coming out and saying he's a changed labour party and all of this stuff. if you end up seeing like, you know, our chap from bradford there who before the general election says i'm now standing as a labour candidate. right. i actually don't think that does labour any good. does it really . good. does it really. >> well, it's the balancing act isn't it? you know, i think labour wants to. this is the this is the, this is the, the difficulty for labour. they want the votes of people , but they the votes of people, but they also they wouldn't want those people necessarily becoming their mps. so for instance, people who are . committed to a people who are. committed to a radical socialist programme of redistribution, they want those people's votes. they certainly don't want them standing as mps or some of the people you showed a moment ago who have quite clear commitments in regards to what's going on in palestine right now in gaza, they want their but they don't their votes, but they don't really that reflected in really want that reflected in the their mps. so the composition of their mps. so it a balancing act. it is a balancing act. historically, labour have gotten away with it. they've certainly gotten with in the in gotten away with it, in the in the 1997 to 2005 period, really , the 1997 to 2005 period, really, i think in an era of social

media, that's going to be a hell of a lot harder. media, that's going to be a hell of a lot harder . and i think of a lot harder. and i think there are smarter people in the labour party that think, look, if we're in government after 2025, over the next five, ten, 15 years, to what extent will our coalition fragment ? and i our coalition fragment? and i think actually it will fragment a fair bit. yeah >> and i tend to agree with you on quite a lot of what you said there. aaron bastani, thank you very much. as the co—founder of novara media. right. coming up, as it's revealed that illegal migration costs you, the taxpayer , £14 billion a year and taxpayer, £14 billion a year and the rest does illegal immigration pose an existential threat to british society as the social contract been destroyed, dame andrea jenkins is one of the only mps speaking out on this. she joins me very soon. plus, i'll show you what happens next when this have a go. hero takes on a brazen thief. hey hey, come by next prince harry. he's back in the uk , but he he's back in the uk, but he won't be finding any time for his cancer stricken father . but his cancer stricken father. but who snubbed who there? the editor at large at the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths.

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight on gb news. now shortly, ispeak tonight on gb news. now shortly, i speak to a jewish student about the intimidating, pro—palestine camp set up at oxbridge. shortly, and frankly, now around the world as well. but first, it's time for the royal dispatch . well, prince royal dispatch. well, prince harry touched down in london today for the ceremony marking the 10th anniversary of the invictus games. that's tomorrow. but the runaway royal won't be able to find any time for his cancer stricken father, despite speaking at an event only three miles away from clarence house, where charles is staying now, harry's spokesman appeared to put the blame on the king, though, saying in response to the many inquiries and continued speculation on whether or not the duke will meet his father while in the uk this week, it unfortunately will not be possible due to his majesty's

full program. the duke , of full program. the duke, of course, is understanding of his father's diary commitments, and i think this is the important bit. various other priorities and hopes to see him soon. well, i'm joined now by the editor at large that mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. charlotte. if harry really wanted to see his own cancer stricken father, surely he'd make it happen . surely he'd make it happen. >> he would, he would. but you know , equally, king charles is know, equally, king charles is the king of england. he could see harry at any point and clear his schedule if he if he wants to. so i think on the surface, harry's right to portray this as a snub. and it is a bit of a snub, but i think what you're rightly alluding to is how easy did harry make it, you know, for his father. so, you know, we know that he didn't come over with the kids. i mean, that would be an easy win. it would be almost impossible for charles to resist the temptation to see his grandchildren. and, you know, there is there's some talk that behind the scenes, there's quite a lot of negotiating going on. i know that the palace, for us in the newspaper biz, were painting a very confused

picture, and i think there was a lot of to and fro going on. and i think the reason for that was because harry had made certain demands about who could be in the room and who couldn't be in the room and who couldn't be in the room. that's a speculation anyway. so although on the surface it looks like a snub, i think harry made it very difficult for his father . difficult for his father. >> would you mind just elaborating slightly on that for us, please? so, so some of harry's demands here because because king charles has said that , you know, sorry, because king charles has said that, you know, sorry, harry, saying that king charles is saying that king charles is saying that king charles is saying that he's he's got other priorities, you know, but you are of the view that harry was making it difficult. >> yeah , i think i think you're >> yeah, i think i think you're right. i think when harry said various other priorities , it's various other priorities, it's so past that whole statement, to be honest. but various other priorities alludes to maybe other forces that were driving charles's position on this. so maybe i don't know whether william had a thought about how and where this meeting should be conducted, or if it should be conducted, or if it should be conducted at all, and we know that charles likes to meet harry with camilla in the room, which isn't always a popular decision. and, you know, the other thing

is, harry was without his wife as well. so, you know, the whole thing was fraught with difficulty, i think. i think it's a shame that harry had to also come over on his own without his wife. it would have made it a lot easier for him if he had someone by his side. he maybe felt a little bit alone having a meeting, you know, if charles say , had camilla there charles say, had camilla there with with him. but, all of this , with with him. but, all of this, none of this was confirmed last week. but what did happen last week. but what did happen last week was the it was clear, really, that the palace had been going through some kind of negotiated behind the scenes because they were they were under the impression, basically, that harry and charles would be able to pull off this meeting. and then at some point along the line that changed. and the inference is that there were negotiations about who and where and how this this meeting would take place. >> well, the headlines until today were that they were going today were that they were going to meet. and from what you're saying really here, it does seem as though the palace was probably working on that assumption as well. then harry releases that statement so it could it could conceivably come down to harry demanding that camilla can't be in the room.

>> it could be. and i think i think we might find out later this week as this week progresses. exactly what went down. but at the moment, you know, the palace aunts aren't saying anything, and again, this is the whole thing as well . the is the whole thing as well. the palace can't release a statement like harry can. this is it comes down to the nub of their entire fraught relationship. is that harry can release these statements loaded with innuendo and sort of, you know, various other priorities , whereas the other priorities, whereas the palace can't. they just have to say, you know , they can stay off say, you know, they can stay off the record or say, no comment. >> yeah. and he knows that and he knows that his dad's ill and he knows that his dad's ill and he knows that kate's ill as well. and yet he still comes out with a statement like that saying his dad's various other priorities. i mean, really emphasising that notion of being the spare. i think there i think so, and actually charles does have another priority . have another priority. >> so i happen to know that when he's in london, he's he takes treatment, he undergoes cancer treatment. pretty much every time. and then he does actually genuinely try to clear his

schedule , other than the odd schedule, other than the odd meeting today, he met the, the prime minister of fiji, which, by the way, side note, prince harry had a very difficult tour to fiji. i don't know if there was some sort of deliberate, provocative measures going on there or whether that had anything to do with it. but famously, harry and meghan went to fiji and meghan had to leave an event, after just to fiji and meghan had to leave an event, afterjust eight an event, after just eight minutes because she became overwhelmed. and they don't look back on that part of their royal life with a lot of affection. they had a difficult time in fiji, but, but the other thing is, is that, you know, when charles is in london, he's having cancer treatment, so he isn't socialising a lot. and i don't know whether harry took that into consideration or really understood that or whether he was able to work around it . whether he was able to work around it. but if i was going through cancer treatment in london, i wouldn't want to have a difficult and stressful meeting because, you know , meeting because, you know, cancer treatment is difficult and fraught and in itself, yeah, no , indeed. no, indeed. >> and as for meghan markle not coming, if it's because she didn't feel safe, then i find it hard to believe that she will feel safer in nigeria , which is feel safer in nigeria, which is where we're going to be next seeing her popping up. but

charlotte, thank you very, very much. great stuff that charlotte griffiths, who is the editor at large at the mail on sunday, now coming up as pro—palestine encampments turn violent around the globe . so that's amsterdam the globe. so that's amsterdam. all right, so that's amsterdam. we've seen issues right across the western world, frankly, when it comes to this now. in fact, there are strong indications doing the rounds on twitter at the moment that tourists, jewish tourist in greece are holed up in their hotel room because pro—palestine activists have, quote, gone looking for them. should we fear similar scenes here as these radical mob occupies oxford and cambridge universities and what is it like to be a jewish student today? i'll be hearing from a terrified jewish oxbridge student before speaking to a former student who was mobbed by pro—palestine protesters. but next, illegal migration is costing you the taxpayer, £14 billion a year. no

mps , apart from dame andrea mps, apart from dame andrea jenkyns, wants to talk about it, and she's next. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good evening. here's your latest gb news. weather update brought to you by the met office. whilst there will be a little bit of rain around and also some patches of mist and fog tonight, for many there's going to be plenty of fine weather through the next few days because of a large area of high pressure that's dominating the story across the uk. this means it's going to stay largely settled through the end of today, and overnight does mean we will see a few patches of mist and fog, particularly towards the west, but also some cloud drifting in from the north sea further east as well. a dry night for most of us and temperatures not dropping a huge amount. many areas staying in high single figures or low double digits. so not a particularly chilly start to the day on wednesday. in fact, a fairly mild one and quite a bright one for some of us, though it won't be wall to wall

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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. on patrick christys tonight . terrifying christys tonight. terrifying scenes in oldham . david maddox . scenes in oldham. david maddox. i reveal the true cost of illegal immigration and debility. >> is not an active policy. is it? >> well, it has to be. >> well, it has to be. >> now what? labour don't even know their own policies. plus . know their own policies. plus. jewish students aren't safe anywhere. and what happens next here? hey hey, i come . on my here? hey hey, i come. on my panel tonight is political commentator patrick o'flynn. tory deputy chairman jonathan gullace and author amy nicole turner. and look at the state of this lot at last night's met gala. yes, it gets a lot worse. get ready, britain, here we go.

how skint do we have to be before we say enough is enough? next . next. >> very good evening to you from the gb newsroom. it's just after 10:00, and we'll just start with some breaking news that we've been hearing in the last hour or so.the been hearing in the last hour or so. the uk border force are scrambling to fix a nationwide e—gate glitch that we believe is affecting all uk airports this evening. footage on social media appears to show huge queues starting to build up at some of the uk's biggest transport hubs. that includes gatwick, stansted and manchester. and we've also heard in the last few minutes from heathrow airport, a spokesperson there saying that contingency plans are now being put in place to make sure that

passengers can be safely processed through the border. well, that disruption comes after border force workers had already staged a four day strike at heathrow in a dispute over working conditions there last week. and we will, of course , week. and we will, of course, keep across that for you throughout this evening. but at this stage , travellers are being this stage, travellers are being told to prepare for long waits . told to prepare for long waits. in other news tonight, the defence secretary has told mps that the government cannot rule out state involvement in a hack at the ministry of defence, but he refused to confirm reports that china was behind it for reasons of national security. >> we can't release further details of the suspected cyber activity behind this incident. however, i can confirm to the house that we do have indications that this was the suspected work of a malign actor and we cannot rule out state involvement . but and we cannot rule out state involvement. but this incident is further proof that the uk is facing rising and evolving

threats . threats. >> well, grant shapps also apologised to armed forces personnel whose names, addresses and bank details were potentially compromised. it's understood 272,000 people may have been affected in total. he did set out and set out an eight point plan to support them, and announced a full investigation. meanwhile, though beijing has strongly denied reports that it's behind the hack, saying the accusations are completely fabricated . and john swinney has fabricated. and john swinney has said that he's over the moon to have been voted in as the scottish parliament's choice to be the next first minister. he was backed by 64 of his, his colleagues and his name will now be submitted to the king. he replaces humza yousaf , who sent replaces humza yousaf, who sent his own official letter to king charles earlier confirming he was stepping down. speaking from the front bench for the final time in the role, mr yousaf said his heart would forever belong to scotland. next to wuster, where a woman has admitted to being part of a global monkey torture network, holly legresley

posted more than 130 videos and 20 photos of the animals being tortured on online chat groups. the 37 year old pleaded guilty to separate charges of publishing obscene articles and intentionally encouraging animal cruelty. she was charged along with another woman after an investigation into animal torture and more than 2000 football banning orders have been issued to england fans ahead of euro 2024, which kicks off in germany next month . fans off in germany next month. fans who are banned must hand over their passports for the duration of the tournament. it comes as football related arrests in england and wales are at a nine year high. german police say they're working with british officers to plan for a safe event for supporters . that's the event for supporters. that's the latest from the newsroom. for more, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now, though, it's back to . patrick.

back to. patrick. >> how skinned do you have to be before you say enough is enough? we're spending around £14 billion a year on illegal immigrants, and that's just on pubuc immigrants, and that's just on public services, schools, health care, etc. you get up, you go to work every day, you pay your taxes . and for what? hmrc comes taxes. and for what? hmrc comes down on you like a ton of bricks if you don't feel like you're self—assessment properly. illegal immigrants cost our pubuc illegal immigrants cost our public services around £12,000 a year per person . reportedly, year per person. reportedly, official figures show that there are at least 1.2 million illegal immigrants in britain, so that's your 14 billion quid's worth of tax payers money. that's just shy of 10% of nhs england's budget for the year. we're spending £370 million on the rwanda plan. we've given the french £476 million. reportedly. you're paying for all of that as well . i you're paying for all of that as well. i bet loads of you have struggled to find a school place for you, your children, your grandchildren, etc. i bet that you've struggled to get a gp appointment recently, or you've been waiting for a routine

operation. i bet your local council is in financial difficulty. i bet your potholes on your road haven't been filled in recently. i bet your loved ones are struggling with low housing stock, and this country has never , ever, ever been has never, ever, ever been paying has never, ever, ever been paying more for money illegal immigrants. the social contract in britain has been completely broken and nobody in politics cares. well almost nobody. there was a debate on this today called by dame andrea jenkyns, the conservative mp for morley and outwood, who joins me now. dame andrea, and we've had some figures there. okay. how many people turned up to this debate from our elected officials , from our elected officials, well, there was three others, mps , and myself and obviously mps, and myself and obviously the minister to answer and the shadow minister. >> okay . and so, so there was >> okay. and so, so there was there was some labour representation there , but was representation there, but was that because they had to be there? >> yeah, that was a shadow minister. that was it. you had to be there to answer questions.

okay >> and what was the general attitude like in theory. because i think that might shock people. you know, 14 billion quid's worth of taxpayers money reportedly going every single year on these people. and it does appear that so few mps seem to care. >> i mean, it's shocking. patrick this is why once i started looking into the figures, this is why i called for this debate and i had 15 mps supporting me as co—signatories, but i mean the atmosphere, i mean, the minister, tom, he was very much on our side. he was very much on our side. he was very much on our side. he was very much , quite strident about very much, quite strident about it, dup , jim shannon spoke. he it, dup, jim shannon spoke. he was very, same as us. worried, about the cost on the taxpayer and the impact on the local community, we got, snp who was, completely opposite and he wants open doors policy virtually, and then the shadow minister, even when i questioned, on this , they when i questioned, on this, they want to allow asylum for 50,000 people if they get into power, i

didn't get an answer on this, and it just didn't have a plan. patrick. >> okay . all right. and the >> okay. all right. and the costs of this are probably only going to rise as well. there is a slightly rose tinted view that all of these people, i think will work and then pay their own way and then get off the welfare state. so if it is somewhere in the region of £14 billion a year now , i shudder to think where we now, i shudder to think where we might be in a few years time. andrea i completely and it's just beyond me. >> why , people can come to our >> why, people can come to our country illegally. we put them in hotels , they can have full in hotels, they can have full access to our services. it's just it's just wrong. patrick. if we went to another country, it wouldn't be like that. so we've got to stop being soft touch britain. that's simple as that. >> just to clarify, before i let you get going then. so you , you you get going then. so you, you you get going then. so you, you you made your findings public to all of the mps you called a debate and yes. and the overwhelming response to that was basically silence. >> yes. i mean , i literally

>> yes. i mean, i literally emailed every backbench mp, cross party, patrick, and to tell them about the debate, but there was just four of us in the debate. in the end, dame andrew jenkins , thank you very, very jenkins, thank you very, very much. >> we will talk again. all the best. right okay. let's get the thoughts of my panel on that. now we've got columnist and political commentator patrick o'flynn, deputy chairman of the conservative party, jonathan gullace, and author and broadcaster amy nicholl turner, jonathan, do politicians really care about this? because taxpayers certainly do. >> of course they do, patrick. and look, andrew is a good friend and she'll appreciate that. today was what we call a one line whip where mps are not being expected to have to be in the house in order to vote. we've just obviously had local elections. a lot of mps have been putting in a lot of hard work for those, and now they have been using this time to do constituency casework work, catch up on visits they weren't able to do otherwise, but also in my case, for example, having just a bit of time with my children in the morning to make sure that i catch up with them, having not seen them properly for bed or bedtime when i've been out and about pounding doors. so at the end of the day,

i care. i've put bills on the floor of the house, which keir starmer even voted against, saying we should ignore the european court of human rights. i think i've been one of the most vocal, mps about this issue, and in fact, even use my prime minister's question. last week to highlight the very challenge that we're facing when it comes to illegal migration. labour's amnesty that they've now introduced that would allow 90,000 plus people to stay here permanently, which would be an abomination . and her actual abomination. and her actual point about the money is entirely . appropriate and entirely. appropriate and accurate. that is £14 billion. that could be going into our schools, going into our nhs, going into fixing broken roads and pavements, which is what the pubuc and pavements, which is what the public wants us to do. >> for me, it's about really the social contract here, and i do fear , patrick, that that has fear, patrick, that that has been shattered. now, that idea that if you go to work, do your job, that if you go to work, do your job, pay that if you go to work, do your job, pay your taxes, pay a very high rate of tax as well. that you will see some kind of benefit to that. that's you upholding your side of the bargain. and i feel as though that contract has been broken . that contract has been broken. >> i think millions of people feel that. and they also feel

that when they're paying their money in taxes into the welfare state, that's for the british people. that's for british people. that's for british people falling on hard time. we have attacked called national insurance. we have a health care system called the national health service. and these, this, this safety net were set up after the second world war. you . after the second world war. you. know, by the old style labour party, principally out of this feeling of a sense of national unity and that the british people had obligations to each other . but now we're people had obligations to each other. but now we're finding the obugafion other. but now we're finding the obligation is to people who have quite cynically gatecrashed into our country . and i was looking our country. and i was looking the other day, back i think it was 2006 when i was chief political commentator on, on the daily express, and our editor went before for, a commons select committee to talk about immigration, asylum . and then immigration, asylum. and then the issue was that the cost of the issue was that the cost of the system was about to top £1 billion. so to find out for 14 billion, that's more, i'm sure,

than the prison budget and the court system budget put together. that is just shocking. >> possibly. i haven't got those figures to hand , but it sounds figures to hand, but it sounds about right. but amy, your your views on this, do you think the social contract has been broken? >> i think it's been broken. but by the impact of austerity and all the things you described are results of austerity policies, the lack of gp appointments and failing education in the failing failure to build houses. failing education in the failing failure to build houses . yeah, failure to build houses. yeah, yeah, you've cut the budget, you've cut, you've cut the education stands have improved. >> the pupil per pupil. yes. they haven't anyway. >> can i finish my point. so in purely economic terms this is why safe and legal routes make sense. because at the moment you're wasting all that money that you've rightly pointed out. the £14 billion on keeping people fleeing from danger, unable to work in inappropriate accommodation for unlimited, on average to two years, stagnating , illegal. what's the. no. that's. >> i know what's the danger.

>> i know what's the danger. >> that's why i'm saying in purely economic terms, safe and legal routes makes sense. what's the current approach is obviously incredibly costly and doesn't work. and interestingly , doesn't work. and interestingly, since the 1980s, expenditure on irregular immigration. wait is france? can i just finish the point expenditure on irregular immigration detention. these deterrence models have gone up. our expenditure on that . and our expenditure on that. and guess what? immigration. irregular immigration. you're not letting me finish the point. yeah. because. because would you know the end? >> well yeah . because actually >> well yeah. because actually i think you're wrong about it, which is that what's the end of the sentence because. well, because well, really, you're wrong the way you started it. because you started it by talking, i think about asylum seekers and people fleeing war, which was your main point talking about. and this is as well to do with illegal immigrants. so people who are not just doing that right cost the pure cost of it, the cost we put into deterring people, the cost we put into coastguard, all the stuff we haven't been able to deter people yet because your mates are blocking, detaining people, deporting people, all these things cost absurd amounts of money, which is what you've

just outlined. >> and what i'm saying is since the 1980s, we have spent more and more and more money, which has got us to this £14 billion figure. and guess what? these irregular arrivals have gone up year on year , more and more and year on year, more and more and more people. so that suggests it's not working. and safe and legal routes would work country by coming through safe mainland europe. >> and the fact is that sadly, many of our european partners never took this issue seriously. they're now starting to see the impacts on their own societies and their own safety. they're starting to realise that , god starting to realise that, god forbid, because they vacated the space, far right parties in certain parts of mainland europe are now gaining electorally, which is not what i want to see. i want mainstream political parties to allow the ability to have debates and discussions around these issues. why did the bnp rise in stoke on trent? it was because mainstream political parties, predominantly the labour party at that time, vacated the field and told white working class, predominantly british people that if you had an issue with immigration, you're a racist to sit in the corner and behave yourself. and i'll admit, it's very politically advantageous for you to be able to blame illegal immigration for all of society's

ills , because then it distracts ills, because then it distracts you from your own failings and also conveniently gives you something to blame them on. education, education, education carlos sainz have gone up more falls. >> well, how could immigration make more potholes? it's not like fixed the kernel. >> why the kernel of the issue is that people from poor countries have heard they can freeload on the welfare systems of richer countries, including the united kingdom. some of us don't think that they should be allowed to get away with that , allowed to get away with that, because some of us think the whole welfare state, which i'd have thought the left should value, will become unsustainable and lose public support if we don't stop patrick. >> if illegal migrants are apparently apparently, according to these reports, on average getting about £12,000 a year in just in public services alone. i'm sorry, but why are we paying for that? >> you know, you probably don't even pay for it because you have to earn over. well, you probably do, but you have to earn over 40 k a year to be a net contributor

anyway. so all this illusion that we pay for absolutely anything is normally absolute tripe. >> oh my gosh. right. okay. >> oh my gosh. right. okay. >> well these are people that want to participate in society. >> i know for a fact that plenty of people, millions and millions and millions and millions of people in this country are paying people in this country are paying through taxation up so how does that make sense? >> that's my point. how does cooping them up and not letting them work makes sense, because thatis them work makes sense, because that is a pull factor. >> because people go, you get to come to this country, these people earn money. >> as i said, these people are not cooped up for two years on average. >> this is this is for things like education and health care, right? so if they're paying for their education to use the nhs, then they're not. i'm just do you think it's really acceptable in this country at the moment when people are struggling to find school places for their kids, they're not struggling to. okay, so my school , you told me okay, so my school, you told me schools are going bad. >> no. now you're suddenly saying there's no problem . saying there's no problem. >> class sizes. class sizes is it is it is because every school in sukh high school in stoke is above par. >> so every school and in fact head teachers from schools in stoke on trent, the secondary schools told me they're crap. they are facing pressures,

they're crumbling, but they're not oversubscribed. stoke isn't crumbling. stoke got five schools, last by labour. no, no, we got labour, pfi deals that have just seen a 19% increase on their service charges because of labour's dodgy pfi deals, which is screwing schools out of tens of thousand pounds for the front line to service a dodgy pfi deal that should never been done by a labour led city council. with a labour led city council. with a labour government back in 2000 that trapped 88 schools out, then that is. >> how did you sort it out ? >> how did you sort it out? >> how did you sort it out? >> well, i will say one thing though. is there not an argument that amy's making, which is has got some merit to it, which is that if we tried more safe and legal routes , right then that legal routes, right then that might have an impact in terms of the quality of individual that we brought to this. >> i think the safe and legal routes thing is a complete sidestepping of it by the left, because you have to answer the question, what do you think the people in the french camps who didn't qualify for the safe and legal routes would do? they would get in boats. unless you're safe and legal routes were entirely uncapped , in which

were entirely uncapped, in which case you would have the most enormous stampede of people coming to freeload on the british welfare state, and it would collapse. david cameron did a terrible news for working class people for and the left in this country, it would collapse pubuc this country, it would collapse public consent for any social solidarity. it would be every man, every woman from themselves, and the rich would be fine, and the powerful be fine. and ordinary people would have their lives wrecked. >> but but, amy, you make the point that that actually a lot of this the wheels were put in motion for things that we see today, like school shortages or all of this stuff, because we had austerity . yeah. okay. all right. >> well, let's be let's be honest about it. why do we have that? >> to be fair, saving government budget does have an impact. >> saying we've spent all the money. labour left a note saying all the money was gone. they left £150 billion a year deficit because they left this country financially vulnerable when there was a global economic crash, by selling off all the

gold reserves that we had, by overspending and not having enough tax station coming through. but even though they raided pensioners when they first came in with their £0.75, there hasn't been a massive raid building agenda though. >> jonathan has that. >> jonathan has that. >> well actually in stoke on trent. patrick, we're building loads more houses we ever did under labour. in average we're building 530 odd homes a year, compared to 300 a year when it was under labour control. so we're doing our bit in stoke on trent to prop up the country. but of course, when it comes to house building, you need to make sure you build the houses in the right places. with the infrastructure. >> we'll just build some, like just build a few at least, maybe. all right, all right . maybe. all right, all right. >> coming up, coming up, coming up. i'll deliver the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages hot off the press. i'll bnng pages hot off the press. i'll bring you some breaking news as well, because chaos hits airports up and down the uk. find out exactly what's going on there. plus i'll show you what happens next here. okay. hey why? >> calm down. >> calm down. >> but first, as oxbridge remains occupied by an intimidating mob of pro gaza radicals, where are jewish students safe these days? i'm going to bring you the exclusive reaction of some terrifying students at those universities and speak to a victim of very,

very shocking anti—semitic abuse on a uk campus. next, don't go anywhere as patrick christys night we are on

gb news. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news. now, over the past few days, countries across the world have been rocked by pro—palestine activists in amsterdam , activists in amsterdam, pro—israel students were beaten and chased by a pro—palestine

mob. after police moved in to break up an occupation of university grounds. over in new york, thousands of pro—palestine protesters brought the city to a standstill last night, with some even vandalising a first world war memorial and burning the american flag. now here in the uk , activist students at oxford, uk, activist students at oxford, cambridge, liverpool and edinburgh, amongst others, by the way, have occupied university grounds in a mass pro—palestine protest. these intimidate pro—palestine camps have left jewish students fearing for their safety , so fearing for their safety, so much so that many students we contacted today felt too scared to come on the show. but they did give us these statements. one jewish oxbridge student commented specifically on signs depicting the erasure of israel. they said the clear desire to eliminate the state of israel and the expansion of calls for resistance to include parts of the uk is a disturbing escalation of violent rhetoric on a university campus, another jewish student told us. put

simply, walking past the encampment was terrifying . they encampment was terrifying. they are not hiding their motivations. the oxford encampment promises escalation similar to these us universities. i understand and value free speech, but considering that they have not differentiated their goals from the bigoted jew hatred in colombia, i fear for my safety and freedom of movement on my own campus at oxford. i hope that the university can recognise the psychological effects of these encampments on the minority of jewish students. i'm joined now by rowan sunak , i'm joined now by rowan sunak, who was subjected to this horrific abuse while manning an israel stall at the university of exeter event in march this yeah >> you keep making some very, very interesting comments. >> you keep talking about intimidation, you keep talking about you were talking about about you were talking about about do you not think this ? about do you not think this? >> yeah. i mean, there was a heck of a lot more than that. i'm very pleased to say that she joins me now. look, thank you

very, very much. i'm having a look at what's going on all around europe and in america . around europe and in america. and i am just wondering, where are jewish students safe now ? are jewish students safe now? >> good evening. >> good evening. >> i mean, the way jewish students have been made to feel is really sad, clearly, from what you've shown , the what you've shown, the testimonies, the footage, it's very clear that jewish students feel lonely. and i'm not sure that they they are safe here in the uk, on uk campuses, but globally, after looking at what's been going on in the us for the last few weeks, this has now spread to the uk, and ultimately myself and other jewish students don't feel protected. >> yeah, i mean, we've had issues in france, we've had issues in france, we've had issues in france, we've had issues in amsterdam that we showed there. there are issues going on in europe. there appears to be, according to reports online and ongoing incident not involving students, it must be said. but in greece , it must be said. but in greece, where apparently a mob is currently, looking for jewish people who are holed up in a hotel . this is this is this is hotel. this is this is this is this is now this is 20, 24, you

know, i am very , very sorry that know, i am very, very sorry that this is happening to people of your faith, but, i mean, what's it like for you to do? i mean, what's it like ? what's it like? >> well, i can say that protesting is a democratic right, which i respect, and i am for . all but now, this is not for. all but now, this is not about protesting. this has gone beyond protesting or expressing solidarity with the palestinian people. this is blatant anti—semitism , and intimidating anti—semitism, and intimidating jewish students. you know, a lot of pro—palestinian students have been arguing that this is for human rights or to stand for palestinians. it's almost become trendy within my generation or students. i can see, but it's just cancelling anyone that doesn't think like you, and it appears to be backed up by academics as well. so 108 oxford dons under the staff have signed a letter of support for the people on that encampment

outside there. i believe that there was a similar ish issue for you at exeter. is that right? what was going on there? >> yes, yes, that was right . i >> yes, yes, that was right. i mean, i can say that, members of staff professors went as far as denying, women's women being raped on october the 7th, this is still an ongoing investigation, so i can't go into detail so much. but but clearly, you know, this is ridiculous. this is absurd. and this shouldn't be tolerated. the question that myself and other jewish students have is these protests in the uk haven't got as violent as as we've seen in colombia, for example . but what colombia, for example. but what is being done to prevent this, what is being done to prevent this from getting as violent, because clearly we've already started to express that we're not safe, and jewish students have to be listened to. >> yeah. what has to happen in your view, then? what has to happen?i your view, then? what has to happen? i mean, there's footage as well. another clip from amsterdam of what appears to be authorities actually taking a bulldozer to one of these encampments, not with anyone

inside the tents or anything like that. just just forcibly removing it. right, i mean, is that the answer ? that the answer? >> well, i mean, as i said, i respect everybody's right to protest. but if you look at it as from my from my situation , as from my from my situation, i've been on here before to explain when myself and other jewish students wanted to use our own rights to be present on campus, we were met with violence, and there are genocidal chants being tolerated at these, at these protests . and at these, at these protests. and this shouldn't this shouldn't have to be the case, nobody should have to have that go on or feel unwelcomed and unsafe . or feel unwelcomed and unsafe. >> so just one final one with you if that's okay. when, when i was applying for university, i never had to consider my safety on campus. i had the quite luxurious choice of just thinking, where do i want to go to university? and then hopefully they'll accept me, right? with varying degrees of success. it must be said, however, for jewish students now, is this a serious consideration about am i going to be safe here? >> yes, definitely . i mean, i've

>> yes, definitely. i mean, i've seen that, from people that i know that are considering going to university in the coming yeah to university in the coming year, and that's been priority. am i safe? will i be protected ? gosh. >> all right. well, look, can i just say thank you very much for coming on and for talking about it as well. and obviously, good luck to you and everyone you know as his. the former university of exeter student . university of exeter student. now, i can't say thank you very much. now coming up, what happens next here? hey, hey , happens next here? hey, hey, come up next. it is the very first of tomorrow's newspaper

welcome out to patrick christys. tonight. it's time for tomorrow's front pages . yeah. tomorrow's front pages. yeah. going in with the metro . going in with the metro. charles's snub as harry flies in. sorry, son. i'm a bit busy. harry has been snubbed. it appears by king charles, i think

he probably could have done a bit more to make it happen, but there we go. the daily express myth migrants boost economy must be busted. senior tories are demanding that rishi sunak dumps liberal immigration rules, claiming it's a myth that immigration boosts britain's economic growth. they also go in there on king being too busy to see harry. the i uk gives israel war crimes warning for rafah invasion israel risks committing war crimes if it continues its latest offensive in gaza, without coming up with a credible plan to protect civilians. that's well, we're warning them, apparently. let's go to the mirror. euros boost for fans extra time in the pub bars can stay open late if england reach the semi—finals. there we are, the daily mail. harry's reunion hope is dashed. the prince flies into the uk. he's forced to admit his father is too busy with other priorities . i've got the times priorities. i've got the times here, britain leads charge to keep young safe online. new rules aim to kerb . oh, we're on

rules aim to kerb. oh, we're on the guardian, apparently. here we go. garrick club members vote to lift. oh, i don't care about this anyway. garrick club members vote to lift the 193 year ban on. can i just say nothing screams out of touch champagne. socialist women right, than the people, the women who read the guardian who really think that this garrick club victory is a is a victory. it's just letting really elitist, posh women into a club full of really elitist posh blokes. >> i don't even care about that one. >> no, no, exactly, exactly. that's the thing. >> even amy, even amy. >> even amy, even amy. >> yeah. moving on to the telegraph. i ignore the telegraph . right. fine. telegraph. right. fine. whatever. right. apparently. apparently. apparently, we have got some breaking news for you as well, which is that these e gates are, a bit of an issue, as you were hearing from there. i've got my panel, we've got, columnist and political commentator patrick o'flynn, deputy chairman of the conservative party jonathan gullace, an author and broadcaster, amy nicholl. now, yes, this breaking story tonight that showcases broken britain at its worst. uk border force are scrambling to fix a nationwide e—gate glitch affecting all uk

airports. this is footage from social media appearing to show huge queues building up at some of our biggest airports . these of our biggest airports. these include gatwick, stansted and manchester. we're also hearing at heathrow airport that contingency plans are being put in place to make sure passengers are safely processed through to the border. patrick, presumably you're quite happy our borders are currently closed, no, i don't believe in in in people not being able to travel between countries at all. i do think, that the high tech e. gates and all that, surely they they can't be brittle if technology is brittle and subject to glitches and there's no kind of belt and braces approach, then we're asking for trouble, particularly asking for trouble, particularly as we've heard with china seemingly able to switch on and off our computer systems almost at will. >> amy, you just throw the gates open, wouldn't you? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i can't believe this, though. like, we can't even process passports like we can't. we

can't let anyone through. yeah, everyone's just stuck. >> i mean, this is a shocker. >> i mean, this is a shocker. >> to be fair, i don't think it's broken. britain. no. >> it's broken. look, look , >> it's broken. look, look, patrick. we go. go on. it's important to. first of all, i'm not going to comment on something that's very live right now. and of course, you'll expect me to want to go back and hear what the home secretary and the legal migration minister has got to say, but i'm sure continue being worked up to make sure we can deal with this. but of course, it's not a good look andifs of course, it's not a good look and it's not a good day, particularly if you're in that queue and god forbid, the parents who have got young children having a three and a half year old and two year old, icannot half year old and two year old, i cannot imagine what that would be like in that situation. >> that is. yeah, that is the nightmare scenario from hell, actually. anyway, right now moving on, the bbc once again finds itself in hot water after an independent review of its migration coverage found risks to impartiality. so the most common problem with the bbc's reporting , okay, was issues like reporting, okay, was issues like rwanda deal and the small boats crisis was stories are often being told through a narrow political lens. who knew? focussed on commentary from a small number of high profile

people and without exploring issues in greater depth or detail . the report also found detail. the report also found that some bbc journalists think that some bbc journalists think that topics that could appear unsympathetic to migrants or migration are too risky to coveh migration are too risky to cover, so this includes things like a housing crisis. so if they are, if they're covering things about housing crisis, for example, they don't seem to mention that there are issues when it comes to mass migration . when it comes to mass migration. now, patrick, you tweeted patrick o'flynn there on the screen. you took issue with the bbc interview this morning, didn't you? >> i did well, amol rajan, one of the today programme presenters, he's actually one of the bbc's better journalists on this stuff. he does try and engage with people who he may think are on the right of politics, but he did a whole interview with the metro mayor of manchester, andy burnham, about housing and housing shortages without once mentioning the impact of huge net migration on over year after year after year on the shortage of housing. and it's one of the

obvious, one of the very top issues as to why this country has got a housing shortage. and i've listened to there was actually a whole bbc documentary series recently on the housing shortage, which barely mentioned immigration, population growth at all. >> okay, now look, i want to get to a bbc spokesperson on this. it says we note that the review found that the bbc produces a lot of excellent content on migration, and has highlighted important best practice. significantly, the review found no consistent bias towards one point of view on this topic. however, it did identify risks to impartiality that point to multiple directions . we welcome multiple directions. we welcome the practical illustration of the practical illustration of the challenges bbc teams face in serving a wide range of licence payers interests, and ensuring that we cover this subject with precision and depth, and draw on the full spectrum of experience and views, they continue. we believe that the analysis will particularly help the bbc in broader and more creative story selection and appropriate framing of migration stories. jonathan it's got your head on your hands. >> well, i feel like the bbc

didn't read the report clearly, andifs didn't read the report clearly, and it's just classic bbc whitewashing of the reality that actually, yet again, they're found to not report properly with due impartiality, not thinking about all the type of people that they were covered, thinking that somehow migration, some sort of nasty right wing thing that gets talked about and ultimately, you know, they would love to go back to the ramona days where we have open borders and free movement. and ultimately, let's get to the bottom of this scrap the bloody licence fee once and for all, and i will finally be a happy man. >> okay? all right . and amy, >> okay? all right. and amy, i mean, i suppose genuinely emphasising what the bbc is saying, they're catering for a, you know, a vast amount of people, as the bbc does. and i dare say you don't think that they're reporting on it is biased, which, you know, i suppose if there if there may be, maybe you might even think it is biased. the other way, i don't know. what do you think, i think that the licence fee is brilliant value for money and money well spent. i think this government is terrible value for money and has wasted so much of

my money that i am not bothered about £152 a year or whatever it is, but i don't think it's a value for money. >> question. it might be value for money about the sheer volume of content you get, but if the content is politically biased, i just don't think it's biased because you're compulsory having to pay for it to watch any telly at all. that's an issue, even if it's quote value. >> people on the left complain constantly about bbc bias. people on the right complain constantly about bbc bias, so it must be doing something right than others. >> i want to squeeze in one more very quickly on this because so shadow chancellor rachel reeves attacked the conservatives economic track record in a speech today, accusing the government of gaslighting britain over the state of the economy . her deputy shadow chief economy. her deputy shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones. me neither was sent out to the bbc this morning to trumpet labour's economic policies. it is just a shame that he couldn't remember any of them. >> our general approach to the economy is that we need three things back in uk politics. we need stability, we need investment and we need reform.

>> a flagship policy is what i'm asking for. >> well, i'll go through the pillars. i mean, stability has changed here. i mean, this is a policy, national insurance, without saying how they're going to analyse what what they say and your view of them . and your view of them. >> stability is not an active policy, is it ? policy, is it? >> well, it has to be. now after 14 years of chaos from the replacements , no more £28 replacements, no more £28 billion a year of green investment vote. >> labour gets stability right? >> labour gets stability right? >> not a whiff of a policy there, was there. but hey, you know, some would say if they came up with a policy to just u—turned on it the next day anyway. but coming up, george galloway is in hot water. is he? after airing his controversial views? no, i'll say that again. controversial views on gay relationships. find out why he said what he said. it's not as great as fryston jackass. well, hopefully afterwards i remember how to read and i will finally show you what happened next in this dramatic clip. >> hey, hey, come on. >> yes, there's more of that. and tomorrow's front page is out

next. all right. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news. i've got more from pages for you . and, yes, we got the for you. and, yes, we got the daily telegraph's children must show id to use social media under 13 will be kicked off platforms as ofcom unveils bolstered age checks. they've also gone off on airports in chaos after border force e—gate system goes down. we brought you that in the last segment. airports are, yeah , london, also airports are, yeah, london, also manchester, as well . apparently manchester, as well. apparently the gates are down and so there's just chaos, but hopefully they will be fixed very shortly. let's go to the times britain leads charge to keep young safe online. yeah okay, fine. so the times the telegraph leading on similar things there. they've also got garrick club votes to allow female members. well of course they did because it's the idea of like people like sting was saying, oh sorry, i've

accidentally joined a men's club. yeah seriously, what's wrong with having clubs forjust wrong with having clubs for just men and having clubs forjust women? >> why can't that be allowed? why is that a bad thing? >> they're not going to turn it into a wetherspoons either, are they ? with people like cathy they? with people like cathy newman? >> why can't women go to discuss important things at women's clubs? why can't women have, why can't mention have their own space to hang around with men isn't one of the biggest issues with men, for example, that they don't open up enough to each other, which leads to major impacts on mental health, and particularly suicide rates. wouldn't it be good to have a space for men just to go and talk to men, for and women, just go and talk to women at times? of course, i wouldn't expect these men to be misogynistic dinosaurs. if they are, they should be called out as misogynist dinosaurs. but if they want to go and have a pint with their mate, even if it's in a pint, a working man's club, well, they could do that. or they want to go to the garrick club. but why does it matter to people? why does it matter? i don't, i don't, i don't actually think it happens. >> i honestly don't think it matters to that many people, other than a few people at the guardian who have now successfully managed to, i suspect, quite skilfully, with the help of jon sopel, revolutionise the garrick club for the worse. >> but women could go with guests because i caught up with

a member of the garrick club and he said, i'll take you and show you what it's like. but as patrick said , you've got these patrick said, you've got these very posh and privileged medium women now kidding themselves that they're great feminist heroines and they've won a new right for women when all they want is the right for themselves to, to join this bastion of the establishment. >> i don't think , you know, >> i don't think, you know, there are many issues on which britain's women could do with wasn't there a case where a judge got taken off a case because he was a member of the garrick club, something sort of pressured into to leaving the garrick club and the cabinet? >> so it's just another place emily maitlis can have dinner, isn't it? this, this is, this is what this all. this is brilliant. well done, emily maitlis. fantastic. you're wandering to the garrick club. you'll have a great night with a load of other posh metropolitan luvvies and that will be fantastic for you, won't it? you are a feminist icon now i'll be are a feminist icon now i'll be a baddie green working men's club having a good laugh . club having a good laugh. >> they still won't let me in. >> they still won't let me in. >> and they still won't let me. i will, they will. right? okay, now we all know the met gala is infamous for its wacky outfits, but when the theme is sleeping

beauty's reawakening, fashion is it a surprise that some of the outfits got a bit weird? american singer erykah badu rocked up in this fetching flower print. what the hell is that? and hat combo looking like a beefeater at a carnival . and a beefeater at a carnival. and indie singer songwriter lana del rey. what made an entrance in a tree inspired ? it looks like a tree inspired? it looks like a mosquito net she trapped in a net. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> does anyone checked on lana del rey anyway? yeah, well, what's a mosquito net? yeah. there you go. well, she did what she secretly knew, didn't you? patrick i've researched this. jonathan, american theatre producer jordan roth came to the rose bush . there we go. lovely. rose bush. there we go. lovely. isn't it? now okay. all right. >> is this what it's about? >> is this what it's about? >> is this what it's about? >> i don't yeah, it is a kind of. they have to out fashion each other, don't they? >> but is that fashion? >> but is that fashion? >> maybe. probably a theme. is that fashion? no. >> i just thought kim kardashian . the only thing i've seen is kim kardashian, who looks like she's suffocating . she's suffocating. >> yeah, she's wearing her vibe,

though, isn't it? >> but it looks like it looks . >> but it looks like it looks. it looks dangerous. it looks like the worst thing to project a women. yeah, it is. that's what they should be doing. >> she's queen of the waist trainer. that actually makes your waist smaller by which is very victorious . very victorious. >> i thought it was really generally quite worried, didn't you, mate ? you were sorry. you you, mate? you were sorry. you hated it. you hated it. >> i yeah, i, i was so angry about it. i'm, you know, going to call it i'm going to tweet about it later. immediately tweeted and told your wife this is horrible. >> look at look at this horrible . right. okay. now now now there's been a video circling. if you're trying to get me in trouble, my message i'm telling you now, the last thing i'll do, i'll see you out. >> sorry, sweetheart. okay. >> sorry, sweetheart. okay. >> but. right, right, final video and a very serious story. there's been a video circling social media of a hooded man trying to steal a woman's bike from her back garden, but they have a go . hero is having have a go. hero is having absolutely none of it. let's just say my childhood bike is rustier than this. cretins apparent robbery skills . let's apparent robbery skills. let's have a look. okay. the peace accord . accord. >> the peace. yeah. >> the peace. yeah. >> i've called the police . >> i've called the police. they've here. yeah. all right . they've here. yeah. all right. oh, yeah. you think you're a tough, tough man? do you?

>> okay. hey, i come . >> okay. hey, i come. >> okay. hey, i come. >> oh, hero. >> oh, hero. >> what a hero. fancy tastic. >> what a hero. fancy tastic. >> you love to see it, right? we've just got time now to reveal today's greatest prisoner union. jackass okay. patrick o'flynn, who's your greatest britain? >> well, my greatest britain. slightly unlikely. mel stride, who's a cabinet minister in late middle age. he looks a bit like the minister out of the thick of it. slightly defeated , crumpled it. slightly defeated, crumpled face. but he stuck to his guns on ending the sick note culture. when he first started talking about it, rishi sunak staff didn't want to know about it. he carried on sunak sort of climbed on board, and now he's unveiling pilot projects. of course, the left say he's a real nasty piece of work. it's mean, but he's stuck to his guns. that work is actually good for you if you're suffering from psychological anxiety. so well played , mel stride. >> all right okay jonathan ben houchen for continuing to thump

labourin houchen for continuing to thump labour in their own backyard in 2019. >> every single constituency was red. obviously we've won some of that blue and he defied the odds against very difficult circumstances and kept it there and even sent me a lovely little text, of a song all by myself, at the end of the results , why at the end of the results, why didn't he wear his blue rosette? he didn't have to wear a rosette to stand on stage to wear a poppy- >> so i would have thought he could wear a, i think, a poppy is a very different thing to rosette. >> a poppy is about remembering our fallen dead who gave their lives for the freedoms that we enjoy. a blue rosette is just a nice add on. i didn't wear a rosette at my count because i wanted my photos to look nice and gleaming, and my fancy suit my mum bought me. >> think he didn't want to be associated with your party anyway, so mine is. do you remember those like, bug screen things that were like strings and your nan used to pop her head out and be like, your tea's ready, right? yeah. well, rita ora wore one to the met gala. >> i've got a clip . and straight >> i've got a clip. and straight ahead, rita, straight ahead . ahead, rita, straight ahead. >> rita. rita, up top in the middle again. >> another outfit. jonathan

gullace hates, so how is that an outfit ? yeah. outfit? yeah. >> it's not, is it? it's not. so.— >> it's not, is it? it's not. so. okay, so my daughter. yeah. so. okay, so my daughter. yeah. so she's your greatest briton for wearing that? >> yeah. cos i just respect it. >> yeah. cos i just respect it. >> fine. all right. yeah. fair enough. i mean, actually, given some of the stuff we've seen served up at the met gala, that was all right. >> i hadn't thought about those things for a while, so it was nice to be childhood memories. >> right. okay. today's greatest britain is, is ben houchen, there we go . right. union jacks there we go. right. union jacks time now, patrick, yeah. well i nominate the students sitting on the outside the front wall of my alma mater, king's college, cambridge, a few weeks ago . it cambridge, a few weeks ago. it got covered in orange paint from just stop oil. now the lawns getting ruined by overprivileged people wearing the keffiyehs. when i thought they were against cultural appropriation , the cultural appropriation, the white left and there was even a workshop on something called pinkwashing , which i hadn't pinkwashing, which i hadn't heard of before, which is apparently when , people on the apparently when, people on the right point out to people on the left that that in gaza being lgbtq+ whatever, whatever

wouldn't be treated very well. and apparently we're not sincere. we don't really care about that . we're just trying to about that. we're just trying to catch out gaza and cover israel's blushes. but i put it to them. if they set up a meeting in the basement bar of a hotel in in rafah, the lgbtq palestine, it would get transferred to the rooftop garden and they'd be leaving it. >> okay . all right. >> okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> now we're going to have to be quick. >> jonathan richard parker, labour's new disastrous mayor of the west midlands, or should i say he seems to be want to be the mayor of gaza? tweeting out his very first policy position was about his concern for what was about his concern for what was going on in the gaza strip, which has nothing to do with potholes or buses or trains. the things that he's meant to be responsible for. and it wasn't just that richard richard tice responsible for saying he was delighted to put parker in position over andy street . position over andy street. >> all right. go on. >> all right. go on. >> amy, my one is george galloway for his comments about gay relationships not being normal. and he wouldn't want his children to be taught lgbt relationships in school. >> okay. yeah. george galloway ,

>> okay. yeah. george galloway, copped it a bit, didn't he? really? i mean, he says that it was a full thing. he talked about 97 genders and all of that. but very much to suggest that. but very much to suggest that. right. okay, today's winner of the union jackass is those students who are camped outside oxbridge. and, frankly , outside oxbridge. and, frankly, everywhere really shouting about palestine. so there we go. right. look. thank you very much, everybody. it's been a lively show. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everybody who's been watching and listening at home as well. it's headliners next with a more in—depth look at all of tomorrow's news. tonight i will see you tomorrow from 9 pm. keep fighting the good fight. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good evening. here is your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. whilst there will be a little bit of rain around and also some patches of mist and fog tonight, for many there's going to be plenty of fine weather through the next few days because of a large area of high pressure that's dominating the story across the uk. this means it's going to stay largely

settled through the end of today and overnight does mean we will see a few patches of mist and fog, particularly towards the west, but also some cloud drifting in from the north sea further east as well. a dry night for most of us and temperatures not dropping a huge amount, many areas staying in high single figures or low double digits. so not a particularly chilly start to the day on wednesday. in fact, a fairly mild one and quite a bright one for some of us, though it won't be wall to wall blue skies. not at all. there will be quite a bit of cloud at times , albeit it does look like times, albeit it does look like a brighter, sunnier day than today. a brighter, sunnier day than today . the greatest chance of today. the greatest chance of seeing any rain will be towards the far north—west here across parts of northwest scotland, perhaps northwest northern ireland, some outbreaks of rain are quite possible. temperatures may be similar or a touch higher than today, but with a bit more sunshine around, it should feel a little bit warmer. the high pressure sticks with us as we go through the end of the week, and so we're going to see more fine for weather much of the uk, although towards the far north northwest here there may be a little bit more rain at times. and elsewhere the odd shower can't be ruled out, but we

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gb news. i'm sam francis. it's just gone 11:00. and we'll start with a quick update on the situation across the uk, where a nationwide issue with border force e—gates has been causing significant disruption at airports tonight , employees at airports tonight, employees at heathrow, gatwick and manchester are all helping out while officials try to fix the problem . it means long queues for passengers arriving in the uk tonight , passengers arriving in the uk tonight, including at edinburgh and stansted. two the disruption comes after border force workers staged a four day strike at heathrow in a dispute over working conditions last week. in other news, the defence secretary told mps the government could not rule out a state involvement in a hack at the ministry of defence, but he refused to confirm reports that china was behind it for reasons of national security. >> we can't release further details of the suspected cyber activity behind this incident. however i can confirm to the house that we do have

indications that this was the suspected