union 15% of non—european union nationals who arrived to the uk in the past five years came here primarily to work complete that eye opener, and i'll speak to one of the report's authors, former housing minister neil o'brien, shortly and next the day after mp for dover natalie elphicke, sensationally jumped ship from the tories. she's been forced to apologise by labour mps for comments that she made supporting her ex—husband after he was convicted of sexual assault. we'll have the latest on the defection that rocked westminster and a wave of pro—palestine student protest camps has sprung up across the uk , mirroring action in america uk, mirroring action in america that to led 2500 arrests. our man patrick christys will join us live from oxford, where he'll confront them. let's hope with a water cannon. that's all coming up in your next hour. well, the

show a delight to have your company today broadcasting from my oil patch here in paddington. loads to talk about. you will not believe some of the facts and figures and stats we're about to come out of this report called taking back control, written by robert jenrick , the written by robert jenrick, the immigration minister, former immigration minister who resigned in principle over what we're about to reveal simply shocking stuff. and also today, it's turned out that some of our most favourite insults in the engush most favourite insults in the english language are going out of fashion. my favourite is plonker . what are yours? send in plonker. what are yours? send in your favourite very british insults . please keep them clean. insults. please keep them clean. i don't want to lose my job. it's been a great week and i'll read out a few before the end of the show. now get in touch the usual ways gb news. com forward slash your save. let's now kick off with your headlines and it's tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> martin thank you and good to see you. the top stories from the gb newsroom. the chancellor

has welcomed the bank of england's decision to hold its base rate, saying it's better not to rush into cutting rates. it's after the bank left its rate unchanged for a sixth time at 5.25. governor andrew bailey struck a slightly optimistic tone, hinting that a cut may be possible as early as june. jeremy hunt says things are getting better. >> i welcome the fact that the bank of england is obviously thought about this very hard. >> they take this decision independently and i would much rather that they waited until they're absolutely sure. >> inflation is on a downward trajectory and rushed into a decision that they had to reverse at a later stage. >> what we want is sustainable , >> what we want is sustainable, low interest rates. >> and i think what's encouraging is that the bank of england governor for the first time, has expressed real optimism that we're on that path. >> however, shadow chief secretary to the treasury darren jones says it's clear that the economy has not turned a corner. >> the bank of england's decision today is its

independent right to make decisions about interest rates. but clearly that's bad news for people at home who are having to reset their mortgages for the years ahead at a more expensive rate, and for people having to pay rate, and for people having to pay rent for their homes. rate, and for people having to pay rent for their homes . and pay rent for their homes. and that's why the economy has not turned a corner. and why people at home are not feeling any upfick at home are not feeling any uptick when they're told by conservative ministers doing victory laps this week that the country has turned a corner when it hasn't . it hasn't. >> in other news, protesters are gathering in the swedish city of malmo in support of palestine ahead of the second eurovision semi—final. if you're watching us on television , you can see us on television, you can see these live pictures of people in these live pictures of people in the city's historic market square. hundreds of demonstrators are waving palestinian flags in opposition to israel's participation in the song contest. crowds could be heard booing during israel's performance last night by eden golan, organisers were also forced to apologise after sweden's eric saade wore a palestinian scarf, a breach of the contest's ban on political symbols . labour's new mp natalie

symbols. labour's new mp natalie elphicke, has apologised for comments she made about sexual assault. the mp for dover announced her defection from the tories to labour just moments before prime minister's questions yesterday, but it's ignhed questions yesterday, but it's ignited a backlash among some labour mps after comments miss elphicke made in defence of her former partner, who was convicted of assaulting two women. the chair of the labour party, anneliese dodds, says she has been held to account for her past comments as well. >> those were very, very serious issues , the sexual assault that issues, the sexual assault that was rightly prosecuted and of course there was a parliamentary process that followed that , process that followed that, including a parliamentary process that applied to natalie elphicke. so it's absolutely right that there was accountability there. this is an incredibly important matter. every workplace , including every workplace, including parliament, has got to be free of sexual harassment . of sexual harassment. >> a large fire has broken out at a parcel centre in staffordshire, forcing nearby businesses to evacuate as ten

fire engines raced to the scene in cannock. the massive blaze broke out this morning at super smart services, which is a distribution warehouse . plumes distribution warehouse. plumes of black smoke were seen billowing out from the centre , billowing out from the centre, with some people on social media claiming it could be seen from as far as ten miles away. claiming it could be seen from as far as ten miles away . the as far as ten miles away. the number of people waiting for hospital treatment is still going up, despite the government's promise to end year long waits by next march. nearly 310,000 people had been waiting longer than 52 weeks for routine treatment last month. there's been some progress, with referrals for suspected cancers slightly up from 64% to nearly 69. but it's still far short of the 85% target. downing street blamed strike action, insisting the latest figures were a significant achievement in the context of industrial action within the health service. the home office has removed figures on french efforts to stop small boat launches from its website.

the clear u—turn comes a little more than a week after it first started publishing the data. in an effort to show cooperation between french and uk authorities . the most recent authorities. the most recent figures had shown that french authorities stopped more than 1000 migrants from launching boats since last week , and boats since last week, and police are appealing for help locating two people suspected of stealing culturally significant gold artefacts from a museum. cctv shows two people in hooded tops climbing through a window at ely museum in cambridgeshire in the early hours of tuesday. footage from a second camera shows two people rushing past and returning seconds later in the opposite direction. one of them apparently carrying a rucksack. cambridgeshire police said an item called the east cambridgeshire gold torc was taken along with a gold bracelet, but anyone with information is being asked to contact police or crime stoppers . for the latest stories, sign up to gb news ulez by scanning the qr code on your screen or go

to gb news. com slash alerts. now back to . martin. now back to. martin. >> thank you tatiana. we've got absolutely tonnes to get through , so let's get cracking. we start with some scary figures that underline the scale of the migrant crisis and the devastating impact that it's having on our public services. well gb news viewers can see pictures of more small boat migrants arriving in dover today and some frightening numbers that show the huge pressure on housing and public services caused by mass migration have come to light in a new report, and i'm joined now by tory mp neil o'brien , who is one of the neil o'brien, who is one of the authors of the report and also former housing minister. welcome to the show, neil. absolute delight. this report is simply astonishing . the magnitude of astonishing. the magnitude of immigration laid bare some uncomfortable truths about the impact. it's having, and in

particular one that leaps out here 89% of the pressure on housing, 1.34 million increase in the deficit in the past ten years is solely been driven by net immigration. tell us more . net immigration. tell us more. >> so, yeah, you don't have to be particularly sceptical about migration to think that the levels we've had over recent years are just far , far, far too high. >> so about 1 high. >> so about1 in 60 people in >> so about 1 in 60 people in this country arrived in the last year. this country arrived in the last year . over the 20 years, from year. over the 20 years, from 2001 to 2021. >> migration added about 7 million people to the population. >> that's a huge number of people . people. >> if you think about the number of different cities that represent , i of different cities that represent, i mean, of different cities that represent , i mean, greater represent, i mean, greater london is only about 8 or 9 million people. >> so that has put huge strain on not just on housing, but also on not just on housing, but also on other types of infrastructure , be it, transport infrastructure, roads and rail. >> but also social infrastructure and the public services, because although migrants can potentially work here, they can't bring with them

a new gp surgery. they can't bnng a new gp surgery. they can't bring with them a mile of road or a railway. and so we need to make sure that the people . who make sure that the people. who are coming here are people who can offset those negative effects that inevitably, having more people crowding in, has by being high earners who can pay a lot more in tax than they take out in public services. but at the moment, that's not really where we are. so we looked at the way that the migration mix has changed under the new system that came in in january of 2021. and what we've seen is, numbers coming from europe have gone down, but numbers coming from the rest of the world, particularly from poorer countries, have absolutely exploded, net migration from the eu over the last five years is only about 5000 a year. but over the five years, about 2 million people have come from the rest of the world. and of course, some of those people are really beneficial for our economy. some of those people have got valuable skills. they're earning a lot of money, they're paying a lot of tax. but that's not true of everyone. and in fact, quite a lot of people who come here

either don't work or they work in kind of low wage gig economy types of, roles. and in the report that we published with the cps, which is called taking back control, we look at the incredible variation in employment rates and earnings rates in the amount of tax paid between different nationalities. and what you tend to see is people who've come here from ficher people who've come here from richer countries, from western europe, from developed countries like australia and new zealand, canada, the us tend to earn a lot, pay a lot of tax, have very high employment rates. but then people coming from particularly poorer countries tend to have very low employment rates, low numbers of people paying lots of tax. and overall, we think that we can both reduce the amount of migration and also at the same time make it more select live so that we make the overall effect more beneficial to the country . more beneficial to the country. >> and neil, an astonishing thing that leapt out to me. i went through this this morning for a couple of hours. brilliant report, by the way. very very good, the non—eu nationals in the uk, only 15% of them primarily came to the uk to

work, 22% to study, 13% asylum. of course, we should always be welcome to those who genuinely need our help. asylum 13% work dependents 12. family 7. study dependents 12. family 7. study dependent 15% of those people at that rate, neil are contributing paying that rate, neil are contributing paying tax. and again, back to what you just said, the highest earners, the americans, the australians paying more than their fair share. but at the bottom, the bangladeshis, the ukrainian , the pakistanis and ukrainian, the pakistanis and the bulgarians, we seem to have a disproportionately high number of people coming in who aren't paying of people coming in who aren't paying into the system. and that is what's causing this problem. >> yeah. so only about 15% of those have come on the main work route or primarily, to work. now, some of the other people who have come are also working. some of the people who have come notionally to study are also doing it primarily to come and work. but that means that they are effectively bypassing some of the rules we have in the system to try and make sure that

the system is selective and that we pick the people who are the higher skilled and the higher earners . and what we've done earners. and what we've done with some of the things like the relatively recently created graduate visa, is to punch a hole in those rules to create a big loophole that's allowing people to come here and not to have to pass the tests that they're earning lots of money, but instead to be able to pay a little bit of money to be on a course, a short course, perhaps in typically they are in less prestigious universities and then be working in the gig economy and that you know, they are working. but at the same time, we keep saying politicians have been saying for 30 years we want to have, a higher skill, higher wage migration, not lots of low wage migration pushing down wages at the bottom end. and that's unfortunately what the creation of this loophole through the graduate visa has done. >> now, neil, quickly, if we could, this report, the centre for policy studies has got a 30 point plan of how we can put this right in a nutshell, how do we tackle this problem? >> so in terms of the overall plan, we say, right, we need to have an overall cap on the amount of net migration. taking

it back to the tens of thousands a year, down from like 600,000 a year at the moment. and so that's taking it back to not no migration, but just the kind of normal levels that we had in the 1990s. and to bring that into effect , we would have an annual effect, we would have an annual migration budget. the house of commons would pass every year, just like the budget we passed for the amount of money we spend. and that would force us to start making some trade offs and to make some choices about, you know, do we want more work migration? do we want more humanity in migration, asylum? do we want more family reunification? migration? what is the migration that we most value? because if you don't have that, there's no discipline and we'll just end up with higher and higher migration . and for and higher migration. and for each of those specific routes, we set out a plan in detail about how we could get it down because we can get it down. some recent changes rishi brought in have started to cut migration. what we need to do now is go further and get a more selective, better system. >> okay? neil o'brien, we have to leave it there. i could talk to leave it there. i could talk to you all afternoon on this, believe me. take it back. control the name that report, the centre for policy studies. it's online. check it out. it's excellent. thank you for joining us. neil o'brien.

excellent. thank you for joining us. neil o'brien . now moving on. us. neil o'brien. now moving on. more on the fallout from the bombshell decision by tory mp natalie elphicke to defect to the labour party , and she has the labour party, and she has apologised for comments that she made in support of her ex—husband after he was convicted of sexual assault in 2020. now, mrs. elphicke said at the time that charlie elphicke was attractive and attracted to women and an easy target for dirty politics and false allegations. but speaking before mrs. elphicke issued an apology, labour chair anneliese dodds backed her new colleague. >> those were very , very serious >> those were very, very serious issues. the sexual assault that was rightly prosecuted. and of course there was a parliamentary process that followed that, including a parliamentary process that applied to natalie elphicke. so it was absolutely right that there was accountability there. this is an incredibly important matter. every workplace , including every workplace, including parliament, has got to be free of sexual harassment . but i of sexual harassment. but i would say on the issues around overall, natalie elphick's politics, anyone who reads the

statement that she put out yesterday will be very clear about the reasons why she has become convinced that the conservative party can't deliver the change the country needs, and only labour can deliver that change.in and only labour can deliver that change. in particular, as you just mentioned. in fact, on the programme, she sets out those appalling failures on housing and i'm sure that natalie will have had the same experience that i've had as a member of parliament. talking with people who are in desperate housing, need often families who have beenin need often families who have been in temporary accommodation . been in temporary accommodation. she speaks in her statement about the impact of that temporary accommodation on children, the negative impact of it and of course there were so many promises made about housing provision by the conservatives, they are simply not being delivered. and natalie elphicke draws attention to that in her statement and sets out the fact that it statement and sets out the fact thatitis statement and sets out the fact that it is only labour that has a plan to deliver the homes that people need. actually, natalie elphicke was a conservative mp,

conservative mps criticise laboun conservative mps criticise labour. we saw exactly the same, of course, with the other conservative mps who then realised that to deliver the change that they are committed to, the only party to support is the labour party. so i'm sure if you went back and looked at, for example, what dan poulton had said, if you looked at what was said, if you looked at what was said by christian wakeford, you would also see criticism of laboun would also see criticism of labour. but then that realisation that, of course, the conservatives could not deliver on what they were promising and that only labour had that plan to get our public services off their knees to deliver the homes that people need, and the change that people need, and the change that our country is crying out for. >> well, i'm joined now by our political correspondent, olivia utley . olivia, welcome to the utley. olivia, welcome to the show. we were only saying yesterday, weren't we, that miss elphick's arrival in the labour party will go down about as well as a cup of cold sick, and that's what's happened. >> it absolutely has . the labour >> it absolutely has. the labour party, on the whole, doesn't seem at all happy with keir

starmer's decision to accept natalie elphicke into the party, in part because of her politics. she's been really very hard line on immigration, as you would expect, as the mp for dover on the front line of the immigration battle. but also because of those comments she made when her husband, her former husband charlie elphicke, was convicted for sexual assault , she said that he was being punished for being attractive and attracted to women. she has now apologised for those comments . i expect from pressure comments. i expect from pressure from the labour party , but it from the labour party, but it still hasn't gone down well at all with labour mps and particularly female labour mps. >> absolutely. i'm joined now by the former labour minister, denis macshane dennis. this this was about this was totally and utterly predictable . how on utterly predictable. how on earth can the labour party be the home to people like john mcdonnell and zarah sultana and natalie elphicke and hey presto , natalie elphicke and hey presto, here we are. >> she's not my cup of tea , but >> she's not my cup of tea, but i'm probably not john mcdonnell's and some other people's cup of tea. it's look,

as far as the labour party is concerned , just look at the concerned, just look at the appalling apocalyptic horror and reaction of tory mps. ben houchen, the star last week, the one guy who won a local council election saying sunak is a complete chaos, repeating what natalie elphicke said has to go i don't think, i don't think ben's coming over. i'm not sure, she's got her own history with her husband. she wasn't really she wasn't politician for very long, bless her, and, yes. i mean, everybody who doesn't like starmer . and believe me, martin. starmer. and believe me, martin. and more of those than you might imagine, the labour party's now using it as a great excuse for finally got something they can dump a bit on starmer, but actually politically , it's very actually politically, it's very helpful, it just shows the tory party completely in utter meltdown. and the lead for labour this morning was over 30 points extending, getting bigger all the time. that's the only defection that counts. tory voters defecting to labour now

dennis natalie has said she won't be standing at the next election. >> the labour party already has their own candidate for dover, so what's her reward going to be, do you think she hasn't done this for charity? some people are saying that she might be fishing around for a keir starmer backed peerage . starmer backed peerage. >> who knows? there are some labour mps who crossed over to bofis labour mps who crossed over to boris johnson in exchange for peerages and in that era, believe me, i mean the tories dangle far more serious rewards. poor old labour just doesn't really have the vision to the crudity, the bribery to get all these people in. i personally, i doubt it. i got the impression looking at her and tracking her record. she was a very successful solicitor . she's a successful solicitor. she's a big pro tory, tory activist, councillor , i think, active in councillor, i think, active in dover and kent, backed her husband for 20 odd years as an mp and then suddenly had to take over for the under the circumstances that olivia outlined and i expect she'll just be glad to be out of it. but i really don't know. i

understand why people are looking at a record, but don't forget there's a guy called shaun woodward. you may have forgotten him, martin. he was the architect of john major's election victory in 1992, and that election campaign used every dirty . i that election campaign used every dirty. i don't want to use the word lying because it's the most stupid phrase to use in politics. every dirty trick in the business to defeat neil kinnock and then blow me down. he comes over to labour and tony blair can't put out a big enough, thick enough red carpet. so let's just, you know, let's just stop a lot of the cant and hypocrisy of the tory side about this fair play. >> always a pleasure to have you on the show. denis macshane have a great afternoon. now it's time for the latest great british giveaway and your chance to win the biggest cash prize of the of the biggest cash prize of the of the year so far. biggie. pardon a whopping £20,000 tax free. now imagine what you could do with all that extra cash. well, imagine no more because here's how you could win the lot. >> it's the biggest cash prize

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welcome back to approaching 326. i'm martin daubney on gb news. now to the latest on the anti—israel protests that have broken out across the united kingdom. as senior university figures held talks with rishi sunak at number 10 today. and the prime minister has called for universities to remain bastions of tolerance . during bastions of tolerance. during a roundtable to discuss anti—semitism on campuses and also, of course, protecting jewish students . well, let's jewish students. well, let's cross live now to oxford and speak to gb news presenter patrick christys, who has at the heart of the protests . pat, it

heart of the protests. pat, it looks lovely and sunny there. what's the mood like in camp? pro—palestine >> yeah, absolutely. so it is a glorious day here at oxford. what you're looking at is oxford university, their natural history museum. now if we walk around, what you'll be able to see is various different signs. oxford uni, divest from genocide is possibly the big one. they've got a list of demands at this encampment here. disclose all financial divest from israeli genocide . apartheid. we get the genocide. apartheid. we get the gist. this is the camp, we can see here, martin, their daily schedule , so, i believe. what schedule, so, i believe. what time are we on now? is it about, 3:00? so that might be the palestine and south africa teaching . they might be early teaching. they might be early for the wellness circle. i'm not sure they might be early for the wellness circle, there is a conspicuous kind of trans flag in the background there, which i did ask a few of them how that marries up with hamas's own policies and they weren't particularly forthcoming. we've beenin particularly forthcoming. we've been in this camp and we're not going to go into it now just in

case, because we are live and it's before the watershed, but yeah, there's, probably about maybe 60 people here, all, you know, chanting things like free palestine, as you would expect, the concerns here, though, at oxford , are that 108 oxford oxford, are that 108 oxford academics and other members of staff had signed a letter supporting these people. jewish students have reported feeling intimidated. i did speak to one chapin intimidated. i did speak to one chap in here who is jewish and pro—palestine , but beyond just pro—palestine, but beyond just telling me that he was jewish, didn't want to actually actually engage with me at all. which is a shame. i've got some quite interesting footage for you though. on my show at 9 pm. of the way in which, well, the way in which they proceed here towards the free press. if i knew any better, martin, if i knew any better, martin, if i knew any better, i might be tempted to call it quite fascist. but obviously we wouldn't dare do anything like that, would we? >> it looks a bit like glastonbury , but without the glastonbury, but without the fun. it looks like they're just having a bit of a ding dong. there how serious are they, patrick? i mean, they've got a list of demands. they expect their their links to barclays bank, for example, to be

dropped. they're concerned about their links to israel. but often these protests run out of steam . these protests run out of steam. we saw in america, patrick, their demands for free palestine turned into demands for free pizza when the food ran out . pizza when the food ran out. >> yeah, i mean exactly. look, this is not america, okay? this is nothing like the american protest whatsoever. there is a food stall that you'll see over there in the middle. and we have had people just ordinary members of the public, stopping and dropping off supplies and things like that. so conceivably they absolutely could keep going here for as long as they want. this is public land. the police and the university have decided not to do anything about that, for whatever reason that is, they've got a political tent, which i don't know if we can just see. maybe at the back there, it's the kind of taller tent that they've got there. so presumably there are quite a lot of medical supplies. a little bit earlier on, there were, the lady who fell off her bike and they came rushing over along with us here and gave her a bit of medical attention so they could survive the ground is a little bit mushy, it must be said,

glastonbury, without the fun is a good way of describing it. what is interesting, though, is if you look at this now, right, it's all very quiet, isn't it? and it's very sedate, but they do like to put on a bit of a show when a member of, as someone on their megaphone said the unfriendly media decide to walk in. so make sure you watch out for that at 9 pm. >> well, patrick, a lot of people, that have been emailing in your views here on gb news were saying they'd like to send in the water cannon. it is a bit of a hot day . patrick, have you of a hot day. patrick, have you got a super soaker off camera there? you might give a little cooling down jet. >> well, i mean, i wouldn't want to be too rude, but i did have to be too rude, but i did have to get up close and personal with a few of them before. and, you know, look, all i'll say is that maybe a water kind of wouldn't have gone amiss, but . wouldn't have gone amiss, but. but yes, i mean, it is interesting just also worth beanng interesting just also worth bearing in mind that you've got camera crews just quickly from al jazeera who are beaming this across the middle east and is very easy to make this look like a massive student protest. it's not all right. it's about 60 people. so, you know, when people. so, you know, when people say the students are rising up and all of this stuff,

it's worth bearing in mind that at oxford university, it appears to me that there are about 100 students, and i'm not even sure all of them are students who care so passionately about it. they're willing to take some time out the library. >> patrick christys superb to see you in the mix. get stuck in. that'll be fantastic on your show later. and maybe the police can invent a new crime protesting with intent. sorry that bombed. thank you very much. patrick christys live from oxford now. there's loads more still to come between now and 4:00. i look back at what's been a pretty humbling week for prince harry after the king simply refused to meet him, but first, it's time for your latest news headlines, and it's tatiana sanchez. >> martin. thank you. the top stories this hour. the chancellor has welcomed the bank of england's decision to hold its base rate, saying it's better not to rush into cutting rates . it's after the bank left rates. it's after the bank left its rate unchanged for a sixth time at 5.25. governor andrew

bailey struck a slightly optimistic tone, hinting that a cut may be possible as early as june. jeremy hunt says things are getting better . are getting better. >> i welcome the fact the bank of england's obviously thought about this very hard. they take this decision independently , and this decision independently, and i would much rather that they waited until they're absolutely sure inflation is on a downward trajectory . trajectory. >> vie and rushed into a decision that they had to reverse at a later stage. >> what we want is sustainably low interest rates. and i think what's encouraging is that the bank of england governor for the first time has expressed real optimism that we're on that path. >> labour's new mp, natalie elphicke, has apologised for comments she made about sexual assault. the mp for dover announced her defection from the tories to labour just moments before prime minister's questions yesterday , but has questions yesterday, but has ignhed questions yesterday, but has ignited a backlash among some labour mps after comments miss elphicke made in defence of her former partner, who was convicted of assaulting two

women. and protesters are gathering in the swedish city of malmo in support of palestine ahead of the second eurovision semi—final final. if you're watching us on television, you can see live pictures of people in the city's historic market square . crowds could be heard square. crowds could be heard booing during israel's performance last night by eden golan. organisers were also forced to apologise after sweden's eric saade wore a palestinian scarf, a breach of the contest's ban on political symbols and a large fire has broken out at a parcel centre in staffordshire, forcing nearby businesses to evacuate as ten fire engines raced to the scene in cannock, the massive blaze broke out this morning at super smart services, a distribution warehouse . plumes of black smoke warehouse. plumes of black smoke were seen billowing out from the centre , with some on social centre, with some on social media claiming it could be seen from as far as ten miles away . from as far as ten miles away. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning

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i >> welcome back. your time is 338. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, later in the show, i'll discuss claims outright. bizarre claims that dominic cummings is apparently stepping up plans to replace the conservatives with a new political party. can it be true? we'll have the full details. but before that, the bank of england decided to hold their interest rates once again this morning, keeping the base rate at 5.25% for the sixth time in a row now.

but it's not all doom and gloom. the bank has announced they're expecting the uk economy to grow by 0.5% this year, and 1% in 2025, although that's slightly higher than previous predictions. and here's what the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones, said about the bank of england's decision . the decision today is decision. the decision today is it's independent right to make decisions about interest rates, but clearly that's bad news for people at home who are having to reset their mortgages for the years ahead at a more expensive rate. and people having to pay rent for their homes. rate. and people having to pay rent for their homes . and that's rent for their homes. and that's why the economy has not turned a corner, and why people at home are not feeling any uptick when they're told by conservative ministers doing victory laps this week that the country has turned a corner when it hasn't. well, let's cross now to a man with a massive brain. and that's our economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money liam mystic liam , once money liam mystic liam, once again, you called this right?

5.25. you said they're going to hold. they did flash their goal to though. there could be cuts to though. there could be cuts to come again. something liam, that you've been predicting . that you've been predicting. >> yeah. much more upbeat words from andrew bailey, the governor of the bank of england at the press conference after the mpc, the monetary policy committee announced its decision at noon that decision was, as you say, martin, to hold interest rates for the sixth meeting in a row. they've been at 5.25. the base rate of , of which all mortgage rate of, of which all mortgage rates and other lending rates in the economy are based. that's where the clue is in the name. it's called the base rate. it's been at 5.25% since august last yeah been at 5.25% since august last year. the bank of england has felt it hasn't been able to lower interest rates because inflation has been high. but inflation has been high. but inflation now is at 3.2. that was the last figure in march. we get the april number in a couple of weeks time. it will be nearer

the bank's 2% inflation target. so there will be more scope to cut rates in the future. and governor andrew bailey said that while today's decision was seven two, so seven of the economists voted to hold rates, only two of the of the nine voted to cut. we need a majority, at least 5 to 4 to get a cut . andrew bailey to get a cut. andrew bailey hinting that the first cut in interest rates could come soon. so i think we're going to get an interest rate cut probably in june or maybe july, but we wait and see. >> and despite the good news and the optimism , andrew bailey, of the optimism, andrew bailey, of course not known for his optimism quite the opposite often. liam, there have been reports out today that banks might yet raise their mortgage and cut their savings deal. despite all of this, why? what's going on? >> well, what's happening is that banks mortgage rates are based on their perception of

where mortgage rates are going to go in the future. so when there was a sense a couple of months ago that the bank was going to cut rates 3 or 4 times this year and quite quickly then mortgage rates actually went quite a long way below the base rate, because banks felt that over a 3 or 5 year loan period, the interest rate would spend a lot of that time below the current rate. because rates are seen to be coming down. but now with interest rates may be on hold. those reductions in mortgage rates have ended, at least for now, and in some sense , some places mortgage rates are actually going up again. look we are not out of this inflation cul de sac yet. yes, inflation is approaching. the bank of england's 2% target. the april figure when it comes out could be at the 2% target or even lower for a month or two. but the problem is we've got in the background, as i've said to you often, martin, it's the geopolitics, stupid. what does that mean ? it means wars in the that mean? it means wars in the middle east, wars between russia

and ukraine. it means the red sea being blocked by houthi rebels. you can't get components from asia to europe as easily as you could before it means inflation is still in the pipeline. and this i think, is why the bank of england is stalling in terms of lowering rates. of course, whatever the bank of england does isn't going to affect the houthi rebels or it isn't going to affect global commodity markets or gas or whatever it is. but it's very difficult for the bank to be seen to be lowering interest rates when inflation is actually not coming down or is even potentially going up. this is just what happened in the us. the latest us inflation number is up on the month before, which is up on the month before, which is why the us federal reserve is trying to delay expectations, say, look, rates are coming down, but maybe not yet. the bank of england is slightly ahead of the federal reserve in that sense. but look, it's a guessing game . and we should say guessing game. and we should say also, martin, while many people

do want interest rates to fall, particularly if you're a family with a mortgage, got personal debts, there are lots of gb news views and savings viewers and listeners who actually want interest rates to stay where they are or even rise because they are or even rise because they live on their savings and they've got scant little interest over recent years. okay liam halligan, thanks for joining us. >> always on the money as ever. pleasure now moving on. after prince harry didn't meet the king during his brief visit to the uk, i am asking today, can the uk, i am asking today, can the pair ever repair their fractured relationship ? i'm fractured relationship? i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

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, heading harry's former regiment . well, join me now to regiment. well, join me now to discuss. this is the royal commentatorjennie bond renee. always a delight to see you. let's start with the visit itself yesterday to saint paul's cathedral . we covered that live cathedral. we covered that live here on my show on gb news. we were quite surprised to see that he actually got a very warm welcome from the crowd. >> it is. i mean, i suppose by definition , if you turn up at definition, if you turn up at saint paul's, you're more likely to be cheering harry. that's who you've gone to see than shouting insults. >> but it has to be said, on a previous visit to the platinum jubilee, there were some boos for harry and meghan then, but no, he got a warm reception from the crowds and he got a very warm reception from his, his uncle and his aunt, charles spencen uncle and his aunt, charles spencer, earl spencer and lady jane fellowes. >> diana's siblings. jane fellowes. >> diana's siblings . and i >> diana's siblings. and i thought that was rather nice. i think it would have been very sad if harry celebrating this incredible achievement of the invictus games, had no members of his family there at all. there were none from the actual

royal family the windsor side, but at least he had some spencer support and approval. and i thought that was nice . thought that was nice. >> the answer to that, jenny, is that the spencers were nice to him, because he hasn't been continually having a pop at the spencers in the press like he has the windsors. >> sadly that is the case and i was, i have to confess, gobsmacked when i learned that there was to be no meeting between harry and his father. i was sure that they would find a lot of time actually, but never mind a lot of time at least a chance to have a cup of tea or an evening drink or breakfast together or something. now there must have been a time in the king's schedule for that. i know he had lots of appointments. it's true. and i know he's undergoing cancer treatment, but nevertheless, this is a very pointed statement , i think, to pointed statement, i think, to harry, you've made your bed. i'm afraid you've got to lie on it. and i think probably it's a sense of loyalty to william and to catherine and to camilla, all of whom have been on the sharp end of harry's tongue.

>> you know, jenny, when the king announced his cancer struggle. and, of course, princess kate, a lot of us were very charitable thinking. okay, this is the moment. now blood is thicker than water. the trials and tribulations of such a serious thing is surely going to bnng serious thing is surely going to bring them together. but jenny, that hasn't happened, has it? if anything , people were commenting anything, people were commenting yesterday to gb news saying maybe the king just doesn't need all the stress of this. the drama , the constant tension. drama, the constant tension. maybe as hard as it is to do uncoupling as it were, is the best thing for him. >> yeah, well, you know, i thought at the funeral of the duke of edinburgh, then the funeral of the queen. surely those would have been occasions for the family come together. didn't happen then . it's not didn't happen then. it's not happening now. even with this. this cancer treatment, i think it's very sad. and i must admit, in my bones, i feel that charles should have made time to see his younger son and no, we've talked about all the rest of it.

loyalty to his nearest and dearest, the working royals, his family. and i know he's probably tired from his treatment, but i do think in situations like this it is up to the parent to be the bigger person and to say, oh my goodness, you've been an absolutely silly sod and worse, but come here, let me give you a hug . but that's not going to happen. >> or will it ? i tell you what, >> or will it? i tell you what, another thing happened yesterday is that quite a few gb news viewers were showing some signs of sympathy towards prince harry. they were saying they felt it was for cruel him to be so publicly shown that he cut a solitary and a lonely figure walking up those steps. i thought yesterday jenny, despite the rictus grin, despite the wave, despite that, the adulation from a small but vocal crowd , he looked very, very crowd, he looked very, very alone. and when i saw in the press this morning a simple map, the king a mere three miles away, and yet a emotionally an eternity way. people were saying

the starting to feel a bit harsh on harry. he is a guy, after all, who before has said he struggled with his mental health. do you think there's anything in that? is it time to say, look, come on, to get together is best? >> well, i think so , but who >> well, i think so, but who knows what has happened since he flew over from california and made that fleeting visit to see his father. his father then only had half an hour, to see him, what has happened since? i don't know, i assumed that they'd been having telephone conversations and getting along a bit better, but clearly that's not the way that the king feels. and yes, when you're undergoing cancer treatment, stress is not a good thing to have. and maybe they all feel that the harry problem they've just got to set it on one side. this is not the time, but then there was this pointed, appointment , timing of the appointment, timing of the appointment, timing of the appointment of william as colonel of the army air corps, which was what the regiment that harry served in, where if he had remained a working royal, it was

fully expected he would be named as the colonel, you fully expected he would be named as the colonel , you know, fully expected he would be named as the colonel, you know, things don't happen by chance. timing is not coincidental or haphazard in the royal family. it does seem to me that that is another message. i won't say snub , but message. i won't say snub, but message. i won't say snub, but message to harry. you're not a working royal. we haven't got time for you and all your problems right now. maybe in the future, but not now. >> superb as ever. always a delight to have you on the show, jennie bond. and maybe there are no boos yesterday because meghan wasn't there. now quickly , if wasn't there. now quickly, if you've ever called somebody a pillock, a plonker or a numpty, gawd knows i have. i absolutely love those old fashioned abusive words, but i'm afraid i've got some bad news for you, because the best insults in the english language are simply dying out. apparently, if del boy wants to have a go at rodney, then instead of calling him a plonker , he should call him basic. bafic , he should call him basic. basic 2000 people, which were the 2000 people were asked about which insults they recognise and the word that the fewest people knew was lummox, which is

apparently particularly popular in east anglia. apparently particularly popular in east anglia . next on the list in east anglia. next on the list is bampot. never heard of that one. and that's followed by blighter, love that and ninny love it. now moving on. labour's newest mp, natalie elphicke, has apologised for comments she made in support of her ex—husband after he was convicted of sexual assault in 2020. we'll have the full update and the latest on that. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel but before all of that, before we exchange any more insults and please send me your favourite insults, it's time for your weather and it's alex steichen . weather and it's alex steichen. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news tomorrow. well, more of the same pretty much for most places are

fine . fairly warm spring day. fine. fairly warm spring day. it's not been glorious everywhere today . there's been everywhere today. there's been quite a bit of cloud around across parts of the north, and some outbreaks of rain just trickling across northern scotland that will continue through the night across northern parts of the mainland up towards the northern isles. for most, though, it's going to be a dry night with clear spells, a bit of mist and low cloud. returning to parts of eastern england and in southern england, south wales , maybe 1 or england, south wales, maybe 1 or 2 fog patches around temperatures could dip down as low as 4 or 3 degrees in some rural spots . most towns and rural spots. most towns and cities, though, staying in double digits and a fine day to come on friday, any morning fog in the south will clear pretty quickly. some mistiness around some coasts, perhaps parts of norfolk and suffolk, some damp weather early on across shetland, but that should scoot away. small chance of an afternoon shower over northern england and southern scotland, but the vast majority dry, fine and warmer than today. 21, 22, maybe 2324. in a few places . maybe 2324. in a few places. fine day to come on saturday as well, perhaps again, some of this mist and low cloud just threatening to make it quite

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gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you on this beautiful sunny day. it's 4 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from paddington today, my old stomping ground. now the day after. mp for dover, natalie elphicke sensationally jumped ship from the tories. she's been forced to apologise by labour mps for comments she made supporting her ex—husband after he was convicted of sexual

assault. we'll have the latest on the defection that rocked westminster. a wave of pro—palestine and student protest camps have sprung up across the uk , mirroring action across the uk, mirroring action in america. that led to 2500 arrests will be live from oxford and the boss of british gas has warned that customers should be forced to have smart metres to help them meet their climate targets, while fans claim they help customers monitor energy usage and cut bills. detractors fear they could be used to spy on them or even cut them off dunng on them or even cut them off during energy shortages. and that's all coming up between now and 6:00. i also got another great story for you coming up because preachers intent on promoting extreme ideologies are set to be barred from entering the uk. thanks to a new task force established to clamp down on hate. and the government has just announced that. and we'll speak to the security minister,

tom tugendhat, about this latest crackdown. will it work? i mean, we don't know who's coming into the country. we've simply lost 21,000 asylum seekers and how many years and over £1 million of taxpayers dosh did it take to even get rid of abu hamza, nevertheless, want to hear all this details on that and please send me your greatest british insults. the list is out. plonker, pillock. prat. just to name a few. they're going out of fashion because they're being replaced . replaced. by more modern words. send me your favourites. keep them clean. i really like my job. get in touch gb news. com forward slash your say. but before all of that, it's your headlines. miss tatiana sanchez. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon. it's 4:00. these are the top stories from the gb newsroom. the chancellor has

welcomed the bank of england's decision to hold its base rate, saying it's better not to rush into cutting rates. it's after the bank left its rate unchanged for a sixth time .

at 5.25. governor andrew bailey struck a slightly optimistic tone, hinting that a cut may be possible as early as june. jeremy hunt says things are getting better. i welcome the fact that the bank of england has obviously thought about this very hard. >> they take this decision independently and i would much rather they waited until rather that they waited until they're absolutely sure inflation a downward inflation is on a downward trajectory and rushed a trajectory and rushed into a decision that they to decision that they had to reverse at a later stage. what we want is sustainably low interest rates and i think what's encouraging is that the bank england governor for the bank of england governor for the first expressed real first time has expressed real optimism that we're on that path. >> but the shadow chief

secretary to the treasury, darren jones, says clear darren jones, says it's clear that has not turned darren jones, says it's clear ticorner. has not turned a corner. >> the of england's >> the bank of england's decision its decision today is its independent make independent right to make decisions about interest rates. >> clearly that's bad news >> but clearly that's bad news for home who are for people at home who are having their mortgages having to reset their mortgages for the years ahead. >> more expensive rate, and >> at a more expensive rate, and people having pay rent for people having to pay rent for their that's why the economy >> and that's why the economy has turned a corner, and why has not turned a corner, and why people home not feeling people at home are not feeling any when they're told by any uptick when they're told by conservative ministers doing victory laps. >> that the country >> this week that the country has when hasn't. >> protesters are gathering in the city malmo in the swedish city of malmo in support ahead of support of palestine ahead of the second eurovision semi—final. hundreds of demonstrators are waving palestinian the city's palestinian flags in the city's historic in historic market square in opposition to israel's participation song participation in the song contest. could heard contest. crowds could be heard booing during israel's performance by eden performance last night by eden golan. also golan. organisers were also forced after forced to apologise after sweden's wore sweden's eric saade wore a palestinian breach palestinian scarf. a breach of the political the contest ban on political symbols. new natalie symbols. labour's new mp natalie elphicke, apologised elphicke, has apologised for comments sexual comments she made about sexual assault. dover assault. the mp for dover announced the announced her defection from the tories just moments tories to labour just moments before prime minister's questions but it's questions yesterday, but it's ignhed questions yesterday, but it's ignited among ignited a backlash among some labour miss labour mps after comments miss elphicke of her elphicke made in defence of her former was former partner, who was convicted two convicted of assaulting two women. labour women. the chair of the labour party, dodds, she party, anneliese dodds, says she has account her has been held to account for her past has been held to account for her paswell, those very, very >> well, those were very, very serious sexual serious issues. the sexual assault rightly assault that was rightly prosecuted. there prosecuted. and of course there was process that was a parliamentary process that followed including followed that, including a parliamentary process that appued parliamentary process that applied elphicke. so applied to natalie elphicke. so it's there it's absolutely right that there was there this was accountable there this incredibly matter. incredibly important matter. every including every workplace, including parliament, free parliament, has got to be free of harassment. parliament, has got to be free of in harassment. parliament, has got to be free of in iusissment. parliament, has got to be free of in iusissmelawyers for >> in the us now, lawyers for donald questioned donald trump have questioned stormy statements stormy daniels about statements she which she she signed in 2018, in which she denied the denied ever having sex with the former that is former president. that claim is now of trial, now at the centre of the trial, which a payment which focuses on a payment of 130,000 apparently

130,000 usd that was apparently made film made to the former adult film star her star in exchange for her silence, presented miss silence, lawyers presented miss daniels she daniels with statements she signed an affair signed in 2018 denying an affair with daniels with mr trump. miss daniels responded was responded by saying she was given and she given the document and told she had trump denies had to sign it. mr trump denies any case is any wrongdoing and the case is continuing. has continuing. the home office has removed french removed figures on french efforts boat efforts to stop small boat launches website. launches from its website. the clear little more clear u—turn comes a little more than first than a week after it first started the data. in than a week after it first staeffort the data. in than a week after it first staeffort to the data. in than a week after it first staeffort to show the data. in than a week after it first staeffort to show cooperationn an effort to show cooperation between french and uk authorities. recent authorities. the most recent figures that french figures had shown that french authorities than authorities stopped more than 1000 launching 1000 migrants from launching boats and boats since last week. and police help police are appealing for help locating suspected locating two people suspected of stealing significant stealing culturally significant gold museum. gold artefacts from a museum. cctv in hooded cctv shows two people in hooded tops window tops climbing through a window at cambridgeshire at ely museum in cambridgeshire in tuesday. in the early hours of tuesday. footage camera footage from a second camera shows rushing past, shows two people rushing past, then later. then returning seconds later. one carrying one of them apparently carrying a cambridgeshire a rucksack. cambridgeshire police the police said an item called the east gold torc east cambridgeshire gold torc was with gold was taken along with a gold bracelet. anyone with information asked to information is being asked to contact police or crime stoppers. latest stoppers. for the latest stories, to news stories, sign up to gb news alerts the code alerts by scanning the qr code on you go to on your screen. or you can go to gb alerts. gb news. com slash alerts. now back martin. back to. martin. >> thank you tatiana. great stuff. now we start with the fallout from the bombshell decision by tory mp natalie elphicke , the former tory mp elphicke, the former tory mp natalie elphicke, to defect to the labour party yesterday. and she has apologised for comments that she made in support of her ex—husband after he was convicted of sexual assault in 2020. well mrs. elphicke said at the time that he was attractive and attracted to women and an

easy target for dirty politics and false allegations. but speaking before mrs. elphicke issued that apology, labour chair anneliese dodds backed her new colleague. >> well, those were very, very serious issues. the sexual assault that was rightly prosecuted. and of course, there was a parliamentary process that followed that, including a parliamentary process that appued parliamentary process that applied to natalie elphicke. so it was absolutely right that there was accountability there. this is an incredibly important matter. every workplace, including parliament, has got to be free of sexual harassment. but i would say on the issues around overall, natalie elphick's politics, anyone who reads the statement that she put out yesterday will be very clear about the reasons why she has become convinced that the conservative party can not deliver the change the country needs, and only labour can deliver that change in particular, as you just mentioned. in fact , on the mentioned. in fact, on the programme, she sets out those

appalling failures on housing and i'm sure that natalie will have had the same experience that i've had as a member of parliament, talking with people who are in desperate housing need often families who have beenin need often families who have been in temporary accommodation. she speaks in her statement about the impact of that temporary accommodation on children , the negative impact of children, the negative impact of it and of course there were so many promises made about housing provision by the conservatives they are simply not being delivered. and natalie elphicke draws attention to that in her statement and sets out the fact that it statement and sets out the fact thatitis statement and sets out the fact that it is only labour that has a plan to deliver the homes that people need. well, actually , people need. well, actually, natalie elphicke was a conservative mp. conservative mps criticised as labour. we saw exactly the same, of course, with the other conservative mps who then realised that to deliver the change that they are committed to, the only party to support is the labour party. so i'm sure if you went back and looked at, for example, what dan poulton had said, if you looked

at what was said by christian wakeford, you would also see criticism of labour. but then that realisation that, of course, the conservatives could not deliver on what they were promising and that only labour had that plan to get our public services off their knees to deliver the homes that people need and the change that our country is crying out for. >> well, for more reaction, i'm now joined by our political correspondent, olivia utley olivia . we were only saying olivia. we were only saying yesterday, weren't we? we felt this would go down badly. and lo and behold, on day one there has been this forced apology. natalie elphicke has gone down about as well as a hog roast, as about as well as a hog roast, as a vegan barbecue . a vegan barbecue. >> well, absolutely. the defection of natalie elphicke has gone down very badly amongst both conservative and labour mps . obviously, there are plenty of labour mps who are concerned about natalie elphick's views. up about natalie elphick's views. up until now, she seems to have been a pretty hard line on immigration, pretty supportive

of the rwanda policy. come up with some bold ideas herself for how to get rid of migrants coming to the uk. a lot of that is at odds with what many, many labour mps believe. and also there is this controversy over her behaviour around her husband, ex—husband . now charlie husband, ex—husband. now charlie elphick's arrest and eventual conviction for sexual assault. she said that he was punished for being attracted and attractive to women. those aren't the sort of comments we expect to hear from any politician, let alone labour politician. so conservative mps feel, understandably, perhaps betrayed by what natalie elphicke has done. they feel baffled. but labour mps to feel very angry in some cases that keir starmer admitted such a sort of wayward concern . native sort of wayward concern. native politician into the labour party. lots of mps saying that if the labour party can include someone like zarah sultana, a corbynite mp and someone like natalie elphicke, a vigorous bofis natalie elphicke, a vigorous boris johnson supporter, then

the church has just got too broad. >> yeah, and that's a great point. and lord kinnock in fact raised that point. he said, you know , we are a broad church, but know, we are a broad church, but churches need walls. and it appears, olivia, that those walls are being pushed up. the left don't like the fact that she's considered to be quite a right wing conservative politician , former tory and of politician, former tory and of course, jess phillips is renowned for her activism around the areas around victim blaming and all the rest of it. so we're expecting, aren't we? as the days move forward, more and more criticisms from all sorts of new and different angles , i think we and different angles, i think we will get lots more criticism. >> keir starmer is obviously hoping that he's nipped the problem in the bud with this obviously forced apology from natalie elphicke. for those comments that she made, but it won't be enough for lots of labour mps. if natalie elphicke genuinely had believed that her comments were wrong and genuinely felt sorry for the comments that she had made, why is she only apologising now ?

is she only apologising now? those comments were made. what was it two years ago , now. so i was it two years ago, now. so i think we can expect to see an extended backlash from conservative mps, particularly female conservative labour mps and particularly those on the left of the labour party. i don't think it's any coincidence that kate osamor , left wing that kate osamor, left wing labour mp, who was suspended from the party for an alleged anti—semitism in question, was given the whip back yesterday. the same day that natalie elphicke was welcomed into the party. to me, that suggests that keir starmer is trying to placate those mps on the left of his party who aren't too happy about the current situation . about the current situation. >> and olivia. yesterday, natalie elphicke jumped ship . natalie elphicke jumped ship. today nadhim zahawi is abandoning the ship altogether, becoming the 64th conservative mp to declare they will not stand again at the next general election. every day there's a fresh battle front for rishi sunak at the moment. >> it really feels like it . >> it really feels like it. nadhim zahawi obviously had to

resign under a cloud, when it was when it emerged that he had been investigated by hmrc from for his tax affairs and had tried to cover that cover up. that investigation . all of that that investigation. all of that aside, he was actually considered a very competent minister when he was in government and is well liked as an mp. he also has an impressive back story. a boy who came over from baghdad with almost no english, who went on to found yougov and then to go on to be the chancellor of the exchequer. that sort of calibre of mp rishi sunak can't really afford to lose the fact that the number is now up to 64 conservative mps . now up to 64 conservative mps. to put that in perspective, before the 1997 labour landslide , 75 conservative mps said that they wouldn't be standing at the next election. >> we're almost there again and that's all of those mps on the screen there. we just saw a huge most mosaic look at them, a huge mosaic of conservative mps who would not be standing at the election. and many , many people

election. and many, many people think that will grow and grow and grow a huge 64 now, not even standing . perhaps they've sensed standing. perhaps they've sensed which way the wind is blowing. olivia lee, thanks for joining us as ever. now let's get some more analysis on that defection yesterday of natalie elphicke from the tories to labour. and let's talk to former labour mp stephen pound. stephen, always a delight to have you on the show. thanks for tearing yourself away from the sunshine to be with us now, stephen, a broadchurch is one thing, but a lot of those on the labour left obviously severely disgruntled. they think natalie elphicke, if she's any more right wing, she'd fall off the white cliffs of dover . the white cliffs of dover. >> well, a broad church, but full of knaves , as somebody once full of knaves, as somebody once said. look, the lord loves a sinner who repenteth . but in all sinner who repenteth. but in all honesty, if i'd been the chief whip at the time, we'd got this application from natalie elphicke. i would have said, we're full up and there's a waiting list. i think this doesn't go down very well at all. nobody could say i was on the left of the of the labor

party. i mean, you know, quite the contrary. but this sits very badly with me when you think of some of her comments were just downright offensive. and i think, in all honesty, if she was disgusted with the tory party, as she, you know, clearly and demonstrably is, then why not just sit as an independent? >> and i think anneliese dodds was, you know, playing a good, good hand there in her place. >> i would have done the same thing , you know, concentrating thing, you know, concentrating on, on the sort of policy differences. but in all honesty, how can someone with those views undergo such a damascene conversion? i mean, you know, talk about u—turns on the road to damascus more than a syrian taxi driver. i mean, it's absolutely extraordinary situation. and i'm really, really it does not sit well with me. and i don't think it sits well with most people in the labour party. but having said that, what else could we have done? we could hardly have said, no, we don't want you when we're trying to appeal to the broad swathe of the british people. sometimes i think that swathe is perhaps a little bit too broad. >> yes. sir keir starmer, he's fond of flip flops. i mean, he could probably wear them on the beach in dover with natalie elphicke. but on a serious point, you can see strategic

stephen, why this is useful for the labour party. it might be uncomfortable for the rest or some of the rest of the mps , but some of the rest of the mps, but this sends out a message, does it not? stephen to the electorate that, hey, you know, if natalie elphicke can flip to the labour party, then i can as a voter to isn't that the true value to keir starmer here? well there's a great deal of truth in that. >> i think the dan porter case is much more interesting . you is much more interesting. you know, who's a practising gp in the health service and who actually for a long time has been critical of tory policy on the health service. i think that's that's much more reasonable. you can understand the sort of the organic process that's but you know, but natalie elphicke, i mean to flip overnight in this way, you know , overnight in this way, you know, if the rest of the country is going to go the same way, there's only going to be three tory mps left, you know, and it's a tricky one because as i said, you know, you don't want to refuse. it reminds me of that famous thing with the, you know, the founder , general booth of the founder, general booth of the founder, general booth of the salvation army, when he was accused of taking money from dodgy sources. and he said, give me your dirty money and i will

make it clean. all i can say, you know, give me your dodgy politicians and we'll we'll scrub them up a bit and we'll actually bring them into, you know, by the warm , welcoming know, by the warm, welcoming fire of the labour party and make them better people . make them better people. >> yeah, but, stephen, i like that metaphor. let's take it a stage further. rather than just being warmed by the fire. is she being warmed by the fire. is she being rewarded in other ways? a lot of people are saying maybe she's just protecting her own image. you know, she wants to leave politics. she wants to be seen as one of the good guys saying, hey, wasn't me that couldn't control immigration, couldn't control immigration, couldn't stop the boats. even though i'm the tory mp for the most visible landing port of those dinghies in the entire country, it was rishi sunak's fault, and i'm one of the good people and is there a potential carrot being dangled to her? a lot of people saying maybe a peerage from sir keir starmer for this, or a nice quango role, because she kept talking yesterday about building new houses. yesterday about building new houses . he wants to build loads houses. he wants to build loads of new houses. that could be a nice little role for her. what do you think, martin? >> let's get a couple of things straight, there's a labour candidate, mike tapp, you know, ex—military who's already been

adopted as our candidate in dover and deal. and he was there yesterday and actually just stressing the fact that there's no way that he's going to stand down for her. and to be fair, natalie, elphicke is not asking that. so were she doing , as that. so were she doing, as i think christian wakeford did when he came across to us about over a year ago. you know, who then gets adopted for that seat? that's a different matter entirely. so when you say that natalie elphicke would like to sort of hug herself and say, i'm one of the good people now, you know, i had no part of this awful business, this rhetoric that she used to espouse. what would be in it for her. she's not going to go to the house of lords. and that that would simply be impossible, that that would be the straw that broke the camel's back. so it's not going to happen, you know, a quango, i don't know, i mean, she's actually, you know , not an she's actually, you know, not an untalented person. and there is clearly a role for her in the future. she's not going to go and, you know, sit in the in the garden shed for the rest of her life. she's going to be doing something. but i don't think that that's going to be through the grace and favour of the labour party, not an untalented person. >> stephen pound, the definition of damning with faint praise. always a delight to have you on the show. former labour mp stephen pound. thanks mate . now

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hit their net zero targets. well, chris o'shea told mps on the commons energy select committee we think that in order to have the proper smart grid that's required to keep costs low in the future, everybody should have a smart metre. one of the things we should consider as to whether this is a voluntary program or whether it should be mandatory, that means you're forced to have one, whether you want one or not. now joining me now to discuss this is the energy expert and the power market's policy analyst, malcolm grimston malcolm , malcolm grimston malcolm, welcome to the show. so around two thirds of british homes and businesses currently have them. 35 million. do but 4 million of those broke seven. and a half million. people have ignored repeated demands for them to have one installed, 600,000 of active refuse. they don't want them at all. why should people be forced to have something they just don't want ?

just don't want? >> well, the benefits of smart metres are that they send real time information every half hour to the grid companies, and that enormously helps them to manage the power supply. >> we have to keep supply and demand pretty much exactly in balance, because we can't store electricity. >> and if we have a system whereby we know exactly almost moment by moment how much power we're using, then we can use the power stations that we have more efficiently . efficiently. >> and that means it brings costs down, ultimately and clearly , the fewer people have clearly, the fewer people have smart metres, the less good the information is. problem is, if you don't have that information, you're having to keep gas powered stations charged up, ready to take over if there's a surge in demand, if you know there's not going to be a surge in demand, then you can save gas. and that brings overall costs down and greenhouse gas emissions down as a as a side benefit as well. the argument always around these is about the balance between the national need to do that and the rights of individuals not to take part. i know many people, myself

included, have had some pretty bad experiences of people coming into my home trying to fix things for me, and understandably, people are going there. so it's a difficult balance. but the argument for smart metres, i think, is a good one in a lot of ways . one in a lot of ways. >> i mean, i've got a smart metre. i was very reluctant to get one myself, malcolm, but i must admit now i use it to show my children how much everything costs. but look , the heating's costs. but look, the heating's gone on. the price has gone up and i'm using it as a device to make them understand what? literally setting fire to money. i want them to be tight like i am, but a lot of people think they have more a more kind of impervious, a dodgier function, and that is this people don't trust having their homes monitored. they don't trust the government knowing what they're doing. british gas, knowing what they're doing . some people even they're doing. some people even think it could be used to restrict or monitor or fine you for heavy usage. for example , if for heavy usage. for example, if the lights were to go out in the future, do they have a valid

concern or is that just a conspiracy theory ? conspiracy theory? >> well, i mean, the amount of our information we give away every time we use our mobile phones these days. i personally have never particularly worried about that angle of things. as you rightly say , this you rightly say, this information is available not just to british gas. it's available to us as consumers to monitor the amount of energy that we are using. and it's great when you hear someone using it as an educational tool as well. so i think those are all important factors . there's all important factors. there's no right or wrong answer towards this. i think there's no doubt that if we all did have smart metres, it would work better . metres, it would work better. and the sad thing is that very often the people who are well off, well, you know, well in touch with these things are the ones who do move first on these. and it's the people who in many ways would benefit the most from the smart metres. there was sometimes the ones who are a bit reluctant to move on that. so i'm sure it's an ongoing debate. i'm sure it's an ongoing debate. i think there's disappointment that it's only just over 60% of households that have got smart metres after so many years since we introduced them, so something needs to be done, i think, to

encourage people, whether that goes as far as forcing people is another debate. >> well, that might happen and here's why it could happen. this was ed miliband's idea in 2009. ed miliband said every home should have a smart metre. ed miliband is about by by. if you look at all the opinion polls he's about to get back into government. ed miliband no doubt, will be a high ranking minister for climate change and enforcement if the labour party were decide did decide to mandate this to make it law, how would that work? what would people get fined if they didn't do it? would they be cut off, i don't think people would be cut off. i think it's a long time that we've established that cutting people off is something you would only do in an absolute emergency, where there wasn't enough power to go round. so i can't imagine any government, danng can't imagine any government, daring to suggest that or feeling that was a moral thing to do. but clearly in any situation, if you have a mandatory thing and people don't do it, there needs to be some kind of sanction against people , kind of sanction against people, to make them do that. i can't

imagine under any circumstances there's going to be people forcing their way into your home to do this kind of thing, so rather like, you know, the licence fee or a number of other things where we know there are people who don't pay it. but we've for a long time decided that people shouldn't go to jail for it. it may be a matter of, cajoling and arguing. i think the argument can be made that it's a good thing for the individual household. and i hope that argument will be made. but there are many things in society where we don't always do what's good for us. and indeed, in a free society , strong argument free society, strong argument that we should be allowed to do what's not, what's not good for us as individuals. but when it clashes with the national interest , that's when it gets complicated. >> yeah. and we have seen, of course, as the times newspaper exposed metre readers going in and fiddling with metres, and that was harming those at the poorer end of the scale. we hope that thing doesn't happen again. malcolm grimston, thank you very much for joining malcolm grimston, thank you very much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. thanks for your expert insights. now, lots more still to come between now and 5:00, including all the details on the government's announcement that

hate preachers will be banned from entering the uk. but first, it's from entering the uk. but first, wsfime from entering the uk. but first, it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines and it's aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> hi there. >> hi there. >> it's 431. i'm aaron armstrong. the chancellor has welcomed the bank of england's decision to hold its base rate, saying it's better not to take risks with inflation. >> it comes after the bank left interest rates unchanged for a sixth time at 5.25. >> however, the governor, andrew bailey, has struck a slightly more optimistic tone, saying he expects inflation to fall over the next couple of months, therefore paving the way for a possible cut to the base rate, possibly as early as june. jeremy hunt believes things are getting better . getting better. >> i welcome the fact the bank of england has obviously thought about this very hard. >> they take this decision independently and i would much rather that they waited until their absolutely sure inflation is on a downward trajectory , and is on a downward trajectory, and rushed into a decision that they

had to reverse at a later stage. >> what we want is sustainably low interest rates. and i think what's encouraging is that the bank of england governor for the first time has expressed real optimism that we're on that path. >> labour's new mp, natalie elphicke, has apologised for comments she made about sexual assault . the mp for dover assault. the mp for dover announced her defection from the tories labour moments before prime minister's questions yesterday , but it has ignited yesterday, but it has ignited a backlash amongst some labour mps after comments miss elphicke made in defence of her former partner, who was convicted of assaulting two women. >> hundreds of demonstrators are gathering in the swedish city of malmo in support of palestine . malmo in support of palestine. >> it's ahead of the second eurovision semi—final. they're protesting against israel's participation in the song contest. >> crowds could be heard booing last night during israel's entry, which is sung by eden golan. >> organisers were also forced to apologise after sweden's eric saade wore a palestinian scarf,

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the 9th of may 1941, more than 400 people were killed there. now yorkshire and humber reporter anna riley has this story . hull, the uk's second story. hull, the uk's second most bombed city during world war ii. >> it was targeted due to its strategic port at more than 1200 civilians lost their lives. 95% of hull's housing was damaged or destroyed. this week, a citizens air raid memorial service paid tribute to those who died. >> we have separate celebrations and commemorations for those that fell in service during dunng that fell in service during during the military service. so this is more about the residents and the citizens of the whole city that were lost during the war. so it's more importantly for them to remember that we where we were bombed heavily. there was many civilians, women, children , men all killed during children, men all killed during the second world war. so it was important for that census ship meant the true extent of the devastation was largely unknown to people outside of hull until

after the war. it's a massive part and it's on the right side of the country , ready to go of the country, ready to go across to europe. so as far as that goes, hull was a massively important port at that time. the government of the time didn't want hull to be known as as the bombed city, so they were seen in northern city to try and detract from the fact that it was actually hull that was bombed . they didn't want the bombed. they didn't want the germans to know. i don't think how badly affected hull . how badly affected hull. >> german air raids killed 400 people in the hull blitz between the seventh and 9th of may in 1941. this service commemorated the 300 men, women and children buned the 300 men, women and children buried in unmarked graves in the city's northern cemetery. >> we're showing respect to those that did die and those that don't have a named grave. so by doing this small service, everybody will know where they are buried. and it's with respect that we do it for them. i think a lot of civilians , paid i think a lot of civilians, paid the price because they were doing the dangerous things

because the men were away in the war. so they were really looking after the country . you have to after the country. you have to remember. otherwise, we probably wouldn't be here today. you know, if the war had gone a different way, it could have been totally different. we remember before you now, those whose lives were lost in the dark days of war from our city and family of kingston upon hull i >> -- >> for the civilians , emergency >> for the civilians, emergency service workers and armed forces that gave their lives for ours, we will remember them. anna riley, gb news hull . riley, gb news hull. >> wonderful piece. and there's something about that bugle that just always gets you. we must never forget those who fell. now, let's get more on the government's promise to ban hate

preachers from entering the uk. a new task force will be introduced to clamp down on hate . in addition to targeting extremist organisations operating in the uk and abroad, i'm delighted to say i'm now joined by the security minister, tom tugendhat. welcome to the show, tom. always a delight. sounds like a fantastic and much needed and overdue new initiative. i guess the first question is how these people ever allowed into the uk in the first place. >> well look, i've been working hard to make sure they never get in and that's why i'm working together now with foreign office and deluxe department for levelling up, housing and communities to make sure that we know exactly who's trying to come here and why, and make sure that those who are trying to spread hate, trying to divide us, trying to make some people feel like they they should turn against their own country , that against their own country, that they're not allowed in. >> and this is a really important part of our job. this is a really important thing that the government should be doing. and so i'm very proud that we're bringing together this team ,

bringing together this team, this taskforce, to make sure that anybody who tries to spread hatred in our country will simply not get in. >> you know, let's not kid ourselves, martin. you know, visa is a privilege. it's not a right. you have no right to come here if you're a foreigner. you're only allowed here. >> if what you are doing here is to the advantage of british people more widely. to visit family, to visit friends, to work . work. >> we love that. that's great. but not to spread hate, not to divide us. >> and tom just say that people slip through the net or somehow got in or they got in, got into the country under false promise. so, i don't know. they arrived on a dinghy and we have no idea who they are. and then they were located in the uk. how would they be forcibly removed? because we saw with we saw with previous hate preachers before it was impossible to remove them from the country. it took over £1 million of taxpayers money in the case of abu hamza, and it took years to get him out. so how could we get rid of the people we don't want when they're already here?

>> so that was a different case because he'd already got a different status. but anybody who's here on a visa, we can take it away and look, this is something we've already been doing. martin, look at since those protests started in october. look at what we've already done on some of those student visas. if you come here to study . fantastic. you're very to study. fantastic. you're very welcome. come and learn. come and study what you need to do. take those skills home, develop a growing career for yourself. that's wonderful. our universities are here to help . universities are here to help. if you come here claiming you want to study, but you then start spreading hatred, you then decide that you want to divide communities, jewish communities, from muslim communities in our country. i'm afraid that's not what your visa is for. let's be clear. if that's what you want to do, go find somewhere else to do it. we've already taken visas away from some students who've been here to study, and have decided that that's not what they actually thought, what they actually wanted to do. instead, they wanted to join these protests and spread anti—jewish hatred. well, we're not having that. and we've taken their visas away and let me be clear. you know, this is not something

we do lightly. it's not something we want to do. what we want to do is we want to welcome people to study, to see family, to enjoy being in the united kingdom. but if you don't want to live up to our rules, okay, well then you're going to lose your visa. your visa is a privilege, not a right. >> many people watching this, tom will be in total agreement with you, but they might question the ability or the veracity of this to be enforced. it came out last week . 21,000 it came out last week. 21,000 people who have no right to remain in the uk , who's who's remain in the uk, who's who's asylum has been refused for whatever reasons. and they should be removed. they simply vanished. they vanished into the country. what would stop these people simply vanishing to ? people simply vanishing to? >> so those figures aren't quite correct. i'm not going to go through the bureaucracy of it, but they're not quite correct. there are a few who have vanished. and by the way, even if it's just one, that's not good enough and i completely accept that. so let's not pretend that the numbers are what we're arguing about. we're arguing about the principle. if

you come here for a purpose and you come here for a purpose and you don't live up to the agreement on which you came, then you shouldn't be here. and that's why we've already expelled people from the country. in the last couple of years. we've expelled 26,000. and, you know, just in the recent months, we've expelled 1 or 2. and the reason i'm picking on those 1 or 2 is because there are 1 or 2 who came as students, came to study, came to develop themselves, or that's what they said, and then joined protests to spread hatred. now, there are many reasons why people could lose their visas. but let me be absolutely clear on your channel. speaking to the british people , if somebody comes to people, if somebody comes to study and then decides that they're going to use the opportunity to spread hatred , opportunity to spread hatred, they will lose their visas and they will lose their visas and they will lose their visas and they will be expelled from the country. >> okay. somebody who's left the conservative party, can i get your reaction on yesterday's shock defection by natalie elphicke to the labour party? it was so shocked. nobody seemed to know what was going on at pmqs.

do you have a message for miss elphicke ? elphicke? >> well, look, i just wonder what she could possibly have been offered. i mean, it's so out of keeping so out of character, but you know who it's not out of character for. it's not out of character for. it's not out of character for keir starmer. this is a guy who frankly stands for nothing at all. i mean, you know, if you've got a party in which your entire vie comfortable sitting next to zarah sultana on one side and natalie elphicke on the other, i mean, you're such a broad church, you might as well be offering bar mitzvahs . offering bar mitzvahs. >> good line, good line, tom, but on a serious point. on a serious point, she was handing out leaflets just the day before, criticising sir softy as she called him with a picture of sir keir starmer. next to an open door. and yet the very next day, tap dancing over into the red corner. does this send out a message that nobody is safe? we've seen, we've seen today the 65th person to not stand at the

next election. nadhim zahawi are you thinking about throwing the hatin? >> i'm. do you know what i'm thinking about doing ? i'm thinking about doing? i'm thinking about doing? i'm thinking about doing? i'm thinking about fighting and winning for the people of tonbridge and malling and making sure that we have a good conservative government going forward . and my main priority forward. and my main priority right now is to keep the british people safe in the job i'm doing, because i think this is a fantastically important job and something that i will not stop doing until i'm asked to do, to stop by the prime minister. so, you know, this is a fantastically important role and i'm very proud to be doing it. but i tell you what it says about natalie, and i'm really sorry, but it shows you that there's more opportunity than conviction in some people. and that's a very sad state of affairs. it tells you a lot about them. it tells you nothing about them. it tells you nothing about them. it tells you nothing about the party. and in this case, it tells you a hell of a lot about him. stands for nothing. >> okay. thanks forjoining us on the show, security minister tom tugendhat. and that's a great line about the bar mitzvah. i might nick that. thank you very much for joining us on the show . always us on the show. always a pleasure to have you. now, loads of you've been getting in touch today and using our new web

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welcome back. your time is 451. i'm martin daubney and you're with me on gb news. now, in the next houn me on gb news. now, in the next hour, i'll bring you news of an apology from labour's newest mp, natalie elphicke. but if you've ever called somebody a pillock, a plonker or a numpty, and i certainly have, then i've got bad news for you. because some of the best insults in the engush of the best insults in the english language are simply dying out. apparently, if del boy wants to have a go at rodney , then instead of calling him a plonker these days, he should call him basic. 2000 people were asked which insults that they'd recognise, and the word that the fewest people knew was lummox. never heard of it either , which never heard of it either, which is apparently particularly popular in east anglia. and next

on the list is bampot bampot. never heard of that two. that's followed by blighter. i know that one and ninny. yes, i do like that . now. i asked you like that. now. i asked you earlier on for your size, get in touch. earlier on for your size, get in touch . and i knew this would get touch. and i knew this would get you going. gas metres, smart metres . because the boss of metres. because the boss of british gas said that they should be mandatory. british gas said that they should be mandatory . we should should be mandatory. we should all be forced to have one. and what would happen if we didn't get one? you'd probably be fine or even cut off. this is really got you hot under the collar, peter says this energy companies don't own the metres. the national grid , meaning we do national grid, meaning we do energy in the national grid is paid for by us, the taxpayer. so what exactly do these energy scam artists own? the answer is nothing. robbie adds this i guess british gas want their gold star from davos to make us all go net zero. jackie quickly adds this no to smart metres . i adds this no to smart metres. i don't see why i should have one when i would have to pay for the

electricity to run it. they do sod all for the standing charge which is extortionate and adds this . my which is extortionate and adds this. my daughter requested a smart metre from british gas and was told that her area's metres needed to be upgraded first, but no date was ever planned for this i have repeated. i've repeatedly requested a smart metre from e.on and told them that there are no appointments available. this is just smoke and mirrors from the energy suppliers. and bernard quickly adds this martin, i've had a smart metre for three years and it stopped working. two years ago i contacted my provider, but i've heard no more since. in fact, bernard, 4 million of these things have gone on the blink and no one is even batted an eyelid. but still , ed an eyelid. but still, ed miliband brought these in in 2009. they were his idea . will 2009. they were his idea. will it be mandated and will you have to pay the bill? that's only got you going? and please send in your saves throughout the rest of the show. now students have set up camps and more than a

dozen universities across the uk in support of palestine. now, do they have a right to protest or is it time to send in the police? well, we'll send in our man patrick christys. he is live in oxford talking to the students there. what's driving them ? what's the point? on the them? what's the point? on the same day that the prime minister, rishi sunak, has asked universities to guarantee the safety of jewish students on british campuses, we'll have a full inside line on that. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel now's your weather and it's alex deakin . deakin. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news tomorrow . well, more of the same tomorrow. well, more of the same pretty much for most places. a fine, fairly warm spring day.

it's not been glorious everywhere today. there's been quite a bit of cloud around across parts of the north, and some outbreaks of rain just trickling across northern scotland that will continue through the night across northern parts of the mainland, up towards the northern isles . up towards the northern isles. for most, though, it's going to be a dry night with clear spells, a bit of mist and low cloud. returning to parts of eastern england and in southern england , south wales, maybe 1 or england, south wales, maybe 1 or 2 fog patches around temperatures could dip down as low as 4 or 3 degrees in some rural spots. most towns and cities, though, staying in double digits and a fine day to come on friday. any morning fog in the south will clear pretty quickly. some mistiness around some coasts, perhaps parts of norfolk and suffolk , some damp norfolk and suffolk, some damp weather early on across shetland, but that should scoot away. small chance of an afternoon shower over northern england and southern scotland , england and southern scotland, but the vast majority dry, fine and warmer than today. 21, 22, maybe 2324. in a few places . maybe 2324. in a few places. fine day to come on saturday as well, perhaps again, some of this mist and low cloud just threatening to make it quite murky on some eastern coasts.

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gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you on this glorious sunny day. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show. broadcast live from gb news headquarters here in paddington . on today's show, in paddington. on today's show, i'll get reaction to the wave of pro—palestine student protest camps that are springing up all across the uk, mirroring action in america . a letter 2500

in america. a letter 2500 arrests and the day after mp for dover natalie elphicke sensationally jumped ship from the tories. she's been forced to apologise by labour mps for comments that she made supporting her ex—husband after he was convicted of sexual assault. we'll have the latest on the defection that rocked westminster , and former downing westminster, and former downing street chief dominic cummings is hoping for a sensational political comeback in the form of a new anti—establishment political party. could this take away yet more right wing votes from the tories, or is it simply madness? does he need his eyes testing? that's all coming up in your next hour . testing? that's all coming up in your next hour. i testing? that's all coming up in your next hour . i hope your next hour. i hope you're enjoying that big yellow thing in the sky. i didn't know what it was when it came out earlier. no doubt it would be thundering tomorrow, followed by a hosepipe ban. but before all of that, we've got tons coming up in your next hour . i want to get your next hour. i want to get your views on these student protest

camps that are popping up all over britain. there's one at oxford. eamonn patrick christys went to speak to a few of the students there to find out what makes them tick, but jewish students are fearful of these protests with some justification. how would you think? how would you feel if they cropped up on your campus? we've seen jewish students come under terrible pressure, abuse , under terrible pressure, abuse, even attacks on campuses. what do you think about these protests ? do they have any protests? do they have any rights? we have a democratic rights? we have a democratic right to protest . but rights? we have a democratic right to protest. but is this the right way to do it? let's a massive arrests and even lock ins and damage and vandalism in america. are we going the same way in this country? send your views in by commenting and posting gbnews.com/yoursay i read a bunch out before the end of the show, but first it's your headunes of the show, but first it's your headlines and it's aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> very good evening to you. it's 5:02. aaron armstrong in

the gb newsroom, the chancellor has welcomed the bank of england's decision to hold its base rate, saying it's better not to rush into cutting taxes . not to rush into cutting taxes. the rate has been left unchanged for a sixth time at 5.25. >> governor andrew bailey was slightly optimistic, hinting a cut may be possible as early as june, but says it is by no means a done deal. >> jeremy hunt, though, thinks it's evidence things are getting better. >> i welcome the fact the bank of england has obviously thought about this very hard. >> they take this decision independently, and i would much rather that they waited until they're absolutely sure. >> inflation is on a downward trajectory and rushed into a decision that they had to reverse at a later stage. what we want is sustainably low interest rates. and i think what's encouraging is that the bank of england governor for the first time, has expressed real optimism that we're on that path. however the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones, says it's clear the economy hasn't turned a corner. >> the bank of england's

decision today is its independent right to make decisions about cut interest rates. >> but clearly that's bad for news people at home who are having to reset their mortgages for the years ahead at a more expensive rate, and people having to pay rent for their homes. and that's why the economy has not turned a corner, and why people at home are not feeling any uptick when they're told by conservative ministers doing victory laps this week that the country has turned a corner when it hasn't . corner when it hasn't. >> well, protesters have been gathering in the swedish city of malmo in support of palestine. it's ahead of the second eurovision semi—final . hundreds eurovision semi—final. hundreds of demonstrators have been waving palestinian flags in the city's historic market square. they're in opposition to israel's participation in the song contest. >> the crowds were heard booing last night during israel's performance by eden golan . performance by eden golan. >> organisers were also forced to apologise after sweden's eric saade wore a palestinian scarf, which was a breach of the contest's ban on political symbols . labour's new mp,

symbols. labour's new mp, natalie elphicke, has apologised for comments she made about sexual assault. the mp for dover announced her defection from the tories to labour moments before prime minister's questions yesterday. it has, though, ignhed yesterday. it has, though, ignited a backlash amongst some labour mps after comments mr elphicke made in defence of her former partner, who was convicted of assaulting two women. the labour chair, anneliese dodds , says she has anneliese dodds, says she has been held to account for her past comments. >> well, those were very , very >> well, those were very, very serious issues. the sexual assault that was rightly prosecuted and of course there was a parliamentary process that followed that, including a parliamentary process that appued parliamentary process that applied to natalie elphicke. so it's absolutely right that there was accountability there. this is an incredibly important matter . every workplace, matter. every workplace, including parliament, has got to be free of sexual harassment. >> the number of people waiting for hospital treatment is still going up, despite the government's promise to end year long waits by next march. >> nearly 310,000 people have

been waiting longer than 52 weeks for routine treatment. that was last month. well, there's been some progress with referrals for suspected cancer, slightly up from 64 to nearly 69. but it's still far short of the 85% target. downing street has blamed strike action, insisting the latest figures are a significant achievement in the context of industrial action within the health service . within the health service. stormy daniels was accused of profiting from a story involving a sexual encounter with donald trump , as lawyers sought to trump, as lawyers sought to undermine her credibility as a witness. the encounter is now at the centre of the former president's so—called hush money trial. mrs. daniels says she signed a statement denying an affair with mr trump because she was told she had to. her lawyers previously argued the statement was designed to be technically accurate by denying an affair without denying a sexual encounter. mr trump denies wrongdoing . the case continues . wrongdoing. the case continues. the home office has removed figures on french efforts to

stop small boat launches from its website. the clear u—turn comes a little more than a week after it first started publishing the data. in an effort to show cooperation between french and uk authorities. the most recent figures had shown french authorities stopped more than 1000 migrants from launching boats since last week . and boats since last week. and police are appealing for help to locate two people suspected of stealing culturally significant gold artefacts from a museum. a cctv shows two people in hooded tops climbing through a window at ely museum in cambridgeshire. this is in the early hours of tuesday. footage from a second camera shows two people rushing past, then returning seconds later. one of them apparently carrying a rucksack. cambridge police said an item called the east cambridgeshire gold torc was taken, along with a gold bracelet , was taken, along with a gold bracelet, and anyone was taken, along with a gold bracelet , and anyone with bracelet, and anyone with information is being asked to contact police or crime stoppers

. you can get more on all of our stories. sign up to our alerts , stories. sign up to our alerts, use the qr code on your screen or go to our website for more details . now it's back to . martin. >> thank you aaron. now we start this hour with the latest on the anti—israel protests that have broken out across the uk and senior university figures held talks with rishi sunak at number 10 downing street today. the prime minister has called for universities to remain bastions of tolerance during a roundtable to discuss anti—semitism on campuses and protecting jewish students . well, joining me now students. well, joining me now to discuss this is rabbi and social campaigner doctor jonathan rempe. welcome to the show, jonathan. a delight to have your company. the very fact that this round table meeting was called today must surely suggest that we have an issue here. if the prime minister is having to tell campus leaders

that we have to encourage places to become , bastions of to become, bastions of tolerance, where students feel safe at the same time, when jewish students are reporting that they feel campuses have become toxic, we seem to have a problem with anti—semitism on campuses . and, rabbi romaine, campuses. and, rabbi romaine, how unhelpful do you think that these camps, these sit ins, are in that process ? in that process? >> well, there's two problems, really. first of all, we've seen what happened in america, where it was really quite awful because it's not just a matter of protesting, but also extreme violence, and that i think there's a real worry . and all there's a real worry. and all credit to the prime minister for picking this up, that that sort of thing could cross the atlantic, and i think everyone would agree that it's okay for people to protest. >> there's all sorts of good causes, and obviously gazans are suffering, no doubt about that. but there is a red line you can protest it but not intimidate. and i think rishi sunak and the university chancellors and many people actually on campus

itself, quite apart from outsiders, are worried about holding that red line because, yes, by all means , you know, yes, by all means, you know, express sympathy, express concern. i mean, you know, that's great. it's great that people have a conscience, but there is a red line beyond which they should not go, which means intimidate , not intimidating intimidate, not intimidating others, not stopping other people. whether it's academics or students going to lectures or taking exams . so it's okay up to taking exams. so it's okay up to a point, but we really don't want to make sure that they cross that point. and i think what rishi sunak is trying to do is to pre—empt that problem so that we don't get into the awful situation where they got into at columbia, where they had to call in the police. that would be really bad news. i must admit, i'm, slightly bemused by two aspects of this, by the way, one is, there are so many other good causes. why is it just erupted now? and in fact, i know there is starvation in gaza and that is starvation in gaza and that is horrible. there's actually much worse, starvation in, in sudan. and the united nations are crying out, but nobody's

listening. but, you know, okay, people choose their causes . but people choose their causes. but the other really a bizarre thing is that some of these students at oxford and cambridge have appealed for tents and chairs in bin bags to help their protest. well, actually, if they really want to help the palestinians , want to help the palestinians, they should appeal for tents and chairs and bin bags to send over to gaza. i mean, it does seem to me they've got their priorities wrong , and it's a little bit wrong, and it's a little bit about them and virtue signalling rather than about helping gazans, because at the end of the day, camping on the university lawn doesn't help them actually fundraising for medical aid if they really want to help people in palestine , to help people in palestine, gaza, then that's what they should do. and not shouting slogans . and that's the other slogans. and that's the other thing they have to be careful about, by the way, is the slogans . you know, it's fine up slogans. you know, it's fine up to a point, you know, saying calling for a ceasefire or calling for a ceasefire or calling for a ceasefire or calling for care for gazans. but using anti—jewish slogans that crosses a red line or talking. that's, you know, that slogan from the to river the red sea, which really means from the jordan to the mediterranean. in other words, annihilating the state of israel . well, okay, if

state of israel. well, okay, if that's what you believe, then say so. but then what happens to all these raeli families and women and children ? and also women and children? and also what happens to the political solution of a two state solution? if you shout from the river to the sea, then you're saying, no israel, no. two state solution and you're really politically up the creek. >> but isn't the problem here, though ? jonathan, i was at though? jonathan, i was at parliament square a few weeks ago when that precise message you just mentioned was projected onto big ben. the police had no interest whatsoever in getting rid of it. i myself repeatedly pointed out to the police , pointed out to the police, there's the projector. it's there. go and take it down. remove it. arrest those people. the police had literally no interest. so you might say it's a red line for students to be saying that same phrase. but the authorities seem to let people get away with this kind of thing with impunity. they don't clamp down and that jonathan just encourages them to go further and further . and further. >> yeah. and i think i would agree that it has been a problem

and quite a massive problem. whether it was the big ben incident , or, whether it was the big ben incident, or, stopping whether it was the big ben incident , or, stopping people incident, or, stopping people going across the normal business in westminster. and i think the police have got their hands rather badly burnt, police have got their hands rather badly burnt , they tried, rather badly burnt, they tried, i think, perhaps wrongly , to i think, perhaps wrongly, to keep the calm, but they realised that by keeping the calm, they sometimes ignored the problem, and i think i'm hoping that they will be much more, forceful this time . not in stopping the time. not in stopping the protests, because, as i say, that's quite legitimate . but in that's quite legitimate. but in stopping the protest, crossing over into harassment and intimidation, and whether it's a jewish students or anybody, frankly, people ought to be able to go to university, and do what they're supposed to do , which is they're supposed to do, which is learn, study and pass the exams . learn, study and pass the exams. >> jonathan, can i ask you a question? why is it do you think that young people , particularly that young people, particularly students, the better educated, ironically , are so obsessed with

ironically, are so obsessed with palestine? they're obsessed with this cause, especially at oxford, some of the most privileged and pampered students on the entire planet. somehow have aligned themselves with palestine as feeling they're part of some sort of systemic, global, westernised oppression. where does it come from ? where does it come from? >> yes, i have to say is it is very puzzling because, i mean, there is obviously a major, major issue and a major problem, but it's by far not the only ones. but it's by far not the only ones . and you could say the ones. and you could say the plight of the uighurs or the rohingyas or the people in sudan, much, much worse. but somehow the palestinian cause seems to be like a sexy cause , seems to be like a sexy cause, and, i mean, it's partly because he gets so much airtime. people see it, whereas people hardly see it, whereas people hardly see what's going on in the with the uyghurs, rohingyas and sudanese , maybe it's also sudanese, maybe it's also because this is a generation without a cause . you know, the without a cause. you know, the previous generation or two had vietnam. this is a generation that's looking for a cause and that's looking for a cause and that maybe fits the bill, it is

strange. i mean, and again, you know, it'd be very logical. israel is tiny. i mean, israel literally is the size of wales, you know, in terms of affecting the world, it's minuscule and yet somehow it seems to dominate the headlines and dominate political thinking. and it's very strange, particularly , as very strange, particularly, as you know, fellow arab nations aren't rushing to the aid of gazans. you know, it's very noticeable that egypt has closed its border to the gardens. it's not letting them flee across . not letting them flee across. none of the arab states have cut off relations with israel. you know , they may not, they may know, they may not, they may have sort of criticised israel , have sort of criticised israel, but they're not taking the side of the palestinians either. so it just seems very strange that fellow muslims, fellow arabs aren't doing things. and yet students in britain are . maybe students in britain are. maybe because it's just so easy to protest about something that's far away and doesn't really affect them, i don't want to sort of deny that there is a genuine problem. there is. we can see people suffering, people dying, people starving. there is a problem in these solution. but

why? it should be top of the agenda over so many, much more important issues. it beats me . important issues. it beats me. >> and jonathan, could i quickly ask you, the prime minister has said that universities must remain bastions of tolerance, where students feel safe in the jewish community. people you talk to , students you talk to talk to, students you talk to parents of students, you talk to. is there a prevailing wind now where jewish students are starting to feel less safe? >> definitely, there is a climate of fear that we just haven't experienced , before haven't experienced, before october the 7th. and the really, really strange thing was that that climate of those attacks on not just israel , but but jewish not just israel, but but jewish students and everyone else started immediately after october 7th. in other words, immediately when hamas attacked, israel, took the hostages, killed the people before three weeks before israel actually retaliated. so you can actually, you know, understand why people are a little bit concerned after israel's attacks, but all this sort of stuff was going on for

the three weeks before israel even moved a soldier , so it just even moved a soldier, so it just shows there was sort of a powder keg , under shows there was sort of a powder keg, under the shows there was sort of a powder keg , under the surface that, keg, under the surface that, maybe of anti—semitism , maybe maybe of anti—semitism, maybe anti—zionism. sometimes it's hard to distinguish and somehow the hamas, attack, lit that power decay, and it's exploded in our faces . okay, doctor. in our faces. okay, doctor. >> jonathan romain, thank you so much for joining >> jonathan romain, thank you so much forjoining us on the show much for joining us on the show and sharing your thoughts with us. and a reminder, patrick christys will be at that student camp at oxford university and that will be live on his show 9 to 11 tonight. patrick christys live. i'm sure that's going to get fruity later on. now you can get fruity later on. now you can get lots more on that story on our website. and thanks to you gb news. com is the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got breaking news and all of the brilliant analysis you've come to expect from gb news. so thank you very much. now it's time now for the latest great british giveaway and your chance to win the biggest cash prize of the year

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9 pm. only on gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back. your time is 522. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now. more now on the fallout from the bombshell decision by tory mp former tory mp natalie elphicke to defect to the labour party yesterday. and now she's had to apologise for comments that she made in support of her ex—husband after he was convicted, of course, of sexual assault in 2020. well, miss elphicke said at the time that charlie elphicke was attractive and attracted to women and an easy target for dirty politics and false allegations. but speaking before mrs. elphicke issued that apology, labour chair anneliese dodds backed her new colleague. >> well, those were very, very serious issues. the sexual assault that was rightly prosecuted. and of course there was a parliamentary process that followed that, including a parliamentary process that

appued parliamentary process that applied to natalie elphicke. so it was absolutely right that there was accountability there. this is an incredibly important matter. every workplace, including parliament, has got to be free of sexual harassment. but i would say on the issues around overall natalie elphick's politics, anyone who reads the statement that she put out yesterday will be very clear about the reasons why she has become convinced that the conservative party can't deliver the change the country needs, and only labour can deliver that change in particular, as you just mentioned. in fact, on the programme , she sets out those programme, she sets out those appalling failures on housing and i'm sure that natalie will have had the same experience that i've had as a member of parliament, talking with people who are in desperate housing need, you know, often families who have been in temporary accommodation. she speaks in her statement about the impact of that temporary accommodation on children, the negative impact of it. and of course, there were so many promises made about housing

provision by the conservatives. they are simply not being delivered . and natalie elphicke delivered. and natalie elphicke draws attention to that in her statement and sets out the fact that it statement and sets out the fact thatitis statement and sets out the fact that it is only labour that has a plan to deliver the homes that people need, largely. natalie elphicke was a conservative mp, conservative mps criticise laboun conservative mps criticise labour. we saw exactly the same, of course, with the other conservative mps who then realised that to deliver the change that they are committed to, the only party to support is the labour party. so i'm sure if you went back and looked at, for example, what dan poulton had said, if you looked at what was said, if you looked at what was said by christian wakeford, you would also see criticism of laboun would also see criticism of labour. but then that realisation that , of course, the realisation that, of course, the conservatives could not deliver on what they were promising and that only labour had that plan to get our public services off their knees, to deliver the homes that people need, and the change that our country is crying out for. >> well, i'm joined now by our political correspondent, olivia

utley . olivia, welcome to the utley. olivia, welcome to the show. so, olivia, when this story broke yesterday , you and i story broke yesterday, you and i predicted this would cause total chaos within the labour party. and as sure as night follows day, that's precisely what's happened. >> well, absolutely. there is huge consternation among the labour backbenches that someone with natalie elphick's politics has been admitted into the labour party. she is widely seen as right of the conservative party. she was a member of the erg. she was a member of the new conservatives group, a gathering of socially conservative mps . of socially conservative mps. and also there is this controversy over her defence of her former husband, charlie elphicke, when he was convicted of sexual abuse in 2020. she said that he was being punished for being attracted and attractive to women , not the attractive to women, not the sort of comments you'd expect to hear from any politician, let alone a labour mp. i think we can expect this backlash to carry on over the weeks to come. although keir starmer has tried to nip it in the bud by placating the left of his party

in handing back the whip to kate osamor left wing labour mp, who was suspended from the party a few weeks ago for alleged anti—semitic comments. so let's see how that plays out over the weeks ahead. but he's got quite a rebellion on his hands at the moment. >> certainly has. olivia and i was joined by tom tugendhat earlier on, he said. the labour party is such a broad church now they might have to start throwing bar mitzvahs. that was a line i told him about. nick and i have olivia utley . thank and i have olivia utley. thank you very much for joining me and i have olivia utley. thank you very much forjoining me on you very much for joining me on the show. now brace yourselves for this story. it isn't april the 1st, but dominic cummings is preparing to launch a new political party. apparently that will replace the tories. well former downing street aide dominic cummings has been organising a series of focus groups to get the public's views about a potential new anti—establishment party. well, join me now to discuss this is the political commentator stella kidu. how are you doing, stella? always a delight , always always a delight, always a delight. so now a lot of people

would think, yes, we do need an anti—establishment party. some might say we've already got one in the reform party , but dominic in the reform party, but dominic cummings hasn't been around for a while. what do you make of this? >> it's very different, right? >> it's very different, right? >> because dominic cummings, he's a very unconventional political operator and he's a bit like marmite. >> people either love him or hate him. >> now, the foundation of this political party, which he announced last year. so it's not the first time that we hear of this. it's called the start up party because dominic cummings is obsessed with entrepreneurship and the spirit of start—up start—ups that we see in the us . so there are see in the us. so there are three things that he says are going to be very important for this party one. tackling immigration, two heavily reforming the civil service, and the third one is closing the tax loop for the top 1% of earners. and i think i see because i have been following his blog for quite some time now. i'm a paid subscriber , and the attention

subscriber, and the attention that he's putting on on the tax loop right now, i think it's is because he's trying to signal to a broader church of people. so not just the right, not just the kind of person who is in the conservative party or the kind of person who got the reform, which i think is a very different character. i think he's trying to cast a wider net and what i also found very interesting, martin, is that if you read his blog over the years, his focus has always been on the entrepreneurial spirit, on the entrepreneurial spirit, on start—ups , i, the future, on start—ups, i, the future, elon musk, all of that stuff . elon musk, all of that stuff. dominic cummings love that kind of thing. now he's saying we want entrepreneurs, but we also want entrepreneurs, but we also want nhs workers. nhs workers really dominic cummings are you trying to fix labour party supporters? let's peak. let me know. >> well, well, i mean, stella, you're obviously enamoured with this idea. i mean, you are one of the political left and you like what dominic cummings is coming out, but some people don't , foreign secretary david don't, foreign secretary david cameron at the time described

him as a career psychopath, and it turned out he used to sign in to whitehall departments using the name osama bin laden. now, is that really the sort of person we want to be leading a political party? >> probably not, because political parties need to be institutions, and institutions are hard to build, and they are even harder to maintain . but i even harder to maintain. but i think i find him funny. i think it's very funny if you're if you're if you're going into the department of education to work and you are signing in as osama bin laden and he's also politically incorrect, which, you know, there was a time when , you know, there was a time when, not a lot of people were and, i guess he obviously rub people the wrong way. and part of that was , you know, because he was so was, you know, because he was so blunt and you saw that during the covid inquest, of course, when he was giving evidence to the select committee where he kept on saying, you know, people want to be distracted by the way that i communicate. but my by my bold communication, rather than looking at the actual topic, which is the symbolic way this government, organised around the

epidemic , which i agree with as epidemic, which i agree with as well, why are people pretending to be shocked by an adult man, using cursing in a private whatsapp group? when you have a government that failed, its one of its most important missions . of its most important missions. >> yeah. okay. stella. well, look, he's found a surprise ally and a surprise fan in you. there we go. the spirit of revolution is in the air. i knew that would appeal to you. will it appeal to the wider electorate? stella thank you very much for joining us. always a delight to have you on the show . i've got lots more on the show. i've got lots more still to come between now and the end of the show at six. and there's food for thought. as the boss of waitrose says, the era of cheap food is coming to an end . do they ever sell cheap end. do they ever sell cheap food at waitrose? and now he wants to see a shift towards regenerative farming rather than intensive farming methods. well, we'll speak to a farmer for his thoughts. but first it's your headunes thoughts. but first it's your headlines and it's aaron armstrong .

armstrong. >> hi, there it is. armstrong. >> hi, there it is . 531 i'm >> hi, there it is. 531 i'm aaron armstrong. the chancellor says it's encouraging to see real optimism that a cut to interest rates could happen next month . the bank of england has month. the bank of england has decided to hold borrowing costs at the same level at 5.25% for a sixth time, but the governor andrew bailey, says things are moving in the right direction with inflation set to fall to its 2% target between april and june. jeremy hunt, though, believes it's better not to take risks with inflation. >> i welcome the fact that the bank of england has obviously thought about this very hard. >> they take this decision independently and i would much rather that they waited until they're absolutely sure. >> inflation is on a downward trajectory and rushed into a decision that they had to reverse at a later stage. what we want is sustainable , low we want is sustainable, low interest rates. and i think what's encouraging is that the bank of england governor, for the first time has expressed real optimism that we're on that path. >> labour's new mp , natalie

>> labour's new mp, natalie elphicke, has apologised for comments she made about sexual assault . assault. >> the mp for dover announced her defection from the tories to labour just her defection from the tories to labourjust moments before prime labour just moments before prime minister's questions yesterday. it has ignited a backlash among some labour mps after comments miss elphicke made in defence of her former partner, who was convicted of assaulting two women. hundreds of demonstrators have been gathering in the swedish city of malmo in support of palestine. it's ahead of the second eurovision semi—final . second eurovision semi—final. they're protesting against israel's participation in the song contest. crowds could be heard booing last night during israel's entry, which is sung by eden golan. organisers were also forced to apologise after sweden's eric saade wore a palestinian scarf. a breach of the contest's ban on political symbols . i'll be back with more symbols. i'll be back with more at the top of the next hour, or you can get more now by signing up to gb news alerts the qr codes on your screen and the details are also on our website .

details are also on our website. >> cheers, britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> a quick look at the markets the pound buys you $1.2520 and ,1.1615. the price of gold £1,864.58 per ounce and the ftse 100 has closed trading at 8390 points. >> cheers britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> thank you aaron. now it really is my favourite part of the show in person, live and direct. breezed in is michelle. >> i did breeze it. ijust wanted to touch her. i just wanted to touch her. i just wanted to touch a bit of daubeny. i never can, only so far away . i'll tell you what far away. i'll tell you what ladies and gents, at home as well. something that you won't

be aware of is the fact that you've taken your shoes off. >> i do, yeah, because it's hot in here today. in fact, earlier on, i had an ice lolly. >> did you? i'm surprised you could probably get away with wearing your shorts. i might do the desk. >> i have toyed with the idea of shorts and flip flops no one would ever know. >> i'm very pleased to report that he's wearing matching socks, neither of them with holes in. but next time i recommend . yeah, i recommend recommend. yeah, i recommend that you come in and you shorts that you come in and you shorts that i'll call you down. anyway, that's not what i've got coming up in the programme. i'm very pleased you've kept your socks on. now i can tell you, coming up my programme tonight, i want to delve deeper into the interview that, dominic cummings gave. he basically thinks that the whole thing when it comes to politics, should be ripped up and started again. i wonder what the viewers will make to that. i mean, he does not hold back. i've got mark littlewood on my panel today. he's the founder of the pop cons. i can't wait to hear what he says to all of this , because he reckons that his p0p , because he reckons that his pop cons. that's the answer to the political worse. i also want to get stuck into these recruitment agencies that are making an absolute fortune when

it comes to providing agency staff. is that exploitation or is it fair markets or what? and if you lost a loved one, martin, would you want to keep the ghost of them if you like, alive, using ai, would you still want to talk to them, see them ? would to talk to them, see them? would you want to hear their voice or not? >> i think there's merit in that. i mean , for example, with that. i mean, for example, with the john lennon's of, you know, when they made john lennon look like he was alive, i found all the holograms and i found it incredibly moving and like the free as a bird video, where they brought the old footage to life. so i think .

some people might really like that. >> but is it healthy? i mean, because unfortunately, dying and passing on that is a part of life. it help you if life. is it does it help you if you got this you if you've still got this kind version of kind of technology version of your talking your loved one, you're talking to hinder with to them. does it hinder you with your it kind your moving on, or is it a kind of antidote to loneliness? >> and think cummings >> and i think that cummings story interesting. story is very, very interesting. i of people, i think a lot of people, michelle, up the michelle, are so fed up with the status to see status quo, they'd like to see something happen. status quo, they'd like to see son buting happen. status quo, they'd like to see son butingis, happen. status quo, they'd like to see son butingis, thehappen. status quo, they'd like to see sonbutingis, the answer is >> but it is, he. the answer is start doesn't hold start up party. he doesn't hold back. there's back. i can tell you there's lots language in lots of colourful language in it, for my it, too too colourful for my delicate, tell you. it, too too colourful for my dalsote, tell you. it, too too colourful for my dalso want tell you. it, too too colourful for my dalso want touch tell you. it, too too colourful for my dalso want touch asl you. it, too too colourful for my dalso want touch as well. i also want to touch as well on that story about that lovely little story about that lovely little story about that had that young girl that's had a heanng that young girl that's had a hearing isn't nice? hearing repaired. isn't it nice? yeah. brilliant. yeah. lovely. brilliant. good, good yeah. lovely. brilliant. good, goo light yeah. lovely. brilliant. good, goolight and shade, serious >> light and shade, serious politics tear politics and a bit of a tear jerk michelle jerk at the end. michelle dewberry. dewbs& six dewberry. superb. dewbs& co six till knew till seven. michelle, if i knew you i'd my you were coming, i'd put my shoes few shoes on and away in a few minutes ask farmer minutes time, i'll ask a farmer whether prices are whether high food prices are here there's here to stay. but first, there's a get touch with a new way to get in touch with us here's bev us here @gbnews. and here's bev turner. details. turner. with all the details. >> be news >> we are proud to be gb news the and as the people's channel. and as you know, hear know, we always love to hear your there's new your views. now there's a new way with us way of getting in touch with us @gbnews your @gbnews com forward slash your say you can be say by commenting. you can be part of a live conversation and join gb news community. you join our gb news community. you can even talk to me, bev turner or any of the members of the gb news family. simply go to gb news. com forward slash your say

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every sunday at 930. when i'll be interviewing the key players in british politics and taking them to task. >> this report basically says that he's not fit to stand trial with an upcoming election looming over westminster, now is the time for clear , honest answers. >> i agree, and that's precisely what i'll get. >> is he indecisive? incompetent that's the camilla tominey show at 930 every sunday on gb news, the people's channel, britain's election . channel. election. channel. >> welcome back. i'm martin daubney. it's 540 and this is gb news. we're on the final furlong now to a warning from the boss of one of our biggest supermarkets . james bailey, supermarkets. james bailey, who's the boss of waitrose, says the era of cheap food is over. well, food price inflation has hurt of course. millions of families across the uk in the last couple of years and now bailey wants to see a shift towards regenerative farming rather than intensive farming

methods. well joining me now is the welsh farmer gareth wyn jones. huge friend of the show. gareth, first of all, there was a huge shock to me that waitrose says that cheap food is over. i don't think they've ever done cheap food , have they? and cheap food, have they? and secondly, it seems that what he's saying is to be environmentally sustainable . environmentally sustainable. we've got to go back to the old way of doing things, which means less fertilisers, less mechanisation, but presumably from your point of view, that means less profit . means less profit. >> well, to be honest with you, mate, you know, we've been working on a shoestring for a long, long time. and, when you had the two for the price of one in supermarkets, i wonder who was having the hit for that. and when we have milk on the supermarket shelf for less than you can buy or for more. what? you can buy water. and this. this this is the problem that we've had. farmers aren't being able to reinvest into their businesses so cheap food comes

at a cost. cheap food comes at a cost to the environment . it cost to the environment. it comes at a cost to people's health and we have to start addressing the problems we've got . it's a addressing the problems we've got. it's a global issue. you know, they're trying to cut down livestock units across the world. new zealand and the netherlands, america, canada , netherlands, america, canada, all over the world. they're trying to bring these numbers of animals down, and the people that are at the forefront at the coalface are the farmers , and coalface are the farmers, and they're the ones that have been hurting. they're the ones that have been putting their hours in for you to have affordable food. so we need a fair price for what we're producing. and you know , we're producing. and you know, how are the people in the inner cities, you know, on the, you know, very, very poor incomes going to be able to afford this food? we've we've got to address this problem and we have to feed people affordably , sustainably people affordably, sustainably and environmentally friendly. we've got massive challenges and

massive challenges. >> may i just say, gareth, by the way , the countryside where the way, the countryside where you are standing is absolutely beautiful . you look like you're beautiful. you look like you're in an oil painting. what an advert for snowdonia that is absolutely joyous when you're an oil painting yourself, mate. of course i digress. let's get back to this. i think you're absolutely right, isn't this novelty for those who can afford it a bit like organic food? it's like, right, your food has been made in this expensive, holistic, environmentally friendly way. you'll pay a premium for that. meanwhile, in the real world, people who are struggling, who can't afford this kind of luxury items they want value. and the value comes by being cheaper and all the time your margins are being squeezed by the big supermarkets . yes, exactly. >> and you know, it's not waitrose , it's not tesco's, it's waitrose, it's not tesco's, it's not asda's, it's not lidl, it's not asda's, it's not lidl, it's not aldi that are feeding these people. it's us, you know, where the people that are out there

seven days a week, 365 days a yean seven days a week, 365 days a year, milking, you seven days a week, 365 days a year, milking , you know, year, milking, you know, collecting the eggs, bringing that food to be affordable . you that food to be affordable. you know, we've got the technology, but we have to address what we've got as a global problem. this spring has been absolutely atrocious. it's been, you know, the harvest boys, they haven't been able to get the cereals into the ground. they are struggling and there's going to be a lot less pain across the uk this season. so i've told you quite a few times we are sleepwalking into food shortages and it has to start with government . doesn't matter who's government. doesn't matter who's running this country, the governments have got to start to talk to farmers, start to address the problems . you know, address the problems. you know, in wales we're talking about planting 10% trees. look behind me, mate. this trees everywhere. you know there is wildlife . you know there is wildlife. there's nature with environmentally friendly way producing some of the highest quality protein as in lamb and beef milk. you know, eggs . i

beef milk. you know, eggs. i grow my own veg here and i couldn't grow that veg without the cows . so i can have their the cows. so i can have their poop the cows. so i can have their poop to put on my ground because my soil isn't as fertile as what you'd have in the lowlands. you know, my family's been on this farm for 375 years. i do not want to be the last generation feeding people . so let's get the feeding people. so let's get the general public behind us. let's have a farming food revolution. it's not about waitrose. it's about feeding people affordably, sustainably and environmentally friendly. >> you know, gareth wyn jones, i think what you're saying there is absolutely magnificent . is absolutely magnificent. people agree with that. people want fairness . they want people want fairness. they want people like you, farmers who support us. no farmers, no food. they want you to get a good wage . want you to get a good wage. they don't want to see you screwed to the floor and be struggling to exist. and so many farms are totally going out of business because of this downward pressure . downward pressure. >> exactly. and you know what? the supermarkets have got to start to think that they have to pay a start to think that they have to pay a fair price for what

they're doing . they can't take they're doing. they can't take they're doing. they can't take the cream off everything they've got to stop this two for the price of one. we've got to stop the wastage of food. one third of the food that's produced in this country goes to landfill. that's not sustainable , you that's not sustainable, you know? and we've got to make sure that everybody is fed in a healthy way and you start eating, you know, two meals a day in. and i mean, you know , it day in. and i mean, you know, it doesn't matter what your diet if you're vegetarian, vegan , you're vegetarian, vegan, flexitarian, carnivore, it doesn't matter what your diet is. it starts with a farmer. and you've got to start to understand that so many people are living in inner cities and everything's on that shelf. well, it comes from the ground. it's either surf or turf. the less processed food we're putting in ourselves, the healthier we've been . but we've healthier we've been. but we've got to get people behind agriculture. we've got to get the general public understanding that if governments don't change what they're putting , as in what they're putting, as in pressure, and supermarkets don't

give us a fair price , farmers give us a fair price, farmers are going to be out of business and we need that money to reinvest in the future to feed everybody . everybody. >> mate, that was spoken like a true sermon . gareth wyn jones, true sermon. gareth wyn jones, thanks so much forjoining us on the show. magnificent now coming up, if you've been fooled by i well , fake images convinced many well, fake images convinced many fans that absent stars actually attended the met gala. can you tell the difference? i'll show you some of the images in just a moment. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's

welcome back. it's 551. we're on the final . final furlong. i'm the final. final furlong. i'm martin daubney on gb news now . martin daubney on gb news now. fake photos of celebrities at the met gala started circulating online, falling so many that some fans who are convinced that absent stars actually attended the bash. let's put it to the test and let's find out what's fake and what's real. and i'm

joined now in the in the studio by broadcaster, lawyer and futurist andrew eborn . and it's futurist andrew eborn. and it's time for andrew ebaums. fake or fact glorious. and it's lovely to join you with most of your clothes on. it's so hot in here, isn't it? what they they always say the camera never lies. which is perhaps the biggest lie of all perception is deception . so all perception is deception. so what i thought we'd do. a number of stars didn't turn up to the met gala , fashion's biggest met gala, fashion's biggest event of the year. i thought we'd test you, martin, on a special andrew warnes. fake or fact with some images. first of all, then lady gaga. here's lady gaga.is all, then lady gaga. here's lady gaga. is this fake or fact? what do you reckon? that looks pretty fact. >> pretty fact. well, you're absolutely wrong. >> that one's fake . she would >> that one's fake. she would normally wear that sort of stuff katy perry, then katy perry, fake or fact . let's pull up katy fake or fact. let's pull up katy perry. have a look at this one katy perry isn't that glorious. thatis katy perry isn't that glorious. that is fake. it is fake because she was the story of her behind it all. she even fooled her mum with that one. she thought, i didn't think you were going to turn up for this sort of stuff. i fell for that as she did, as fact. she turned around. i don't think go the think you're going to go to the met think she met gala. she didn't think she could it. okay. selena

could make it. okay. selena gomez fake or fact . so a quick gomez fake or fact. so a quick look at this one, that looks pretty believable . nothing too pretty believable. nothing too outlandish. i'm gonna say. fact. >> you're absolutely right. you're good at this. >> come on. »- >> come on. >> who would have known? >> who would have known? >> okay, jennifer lopez, let's have a look. jennifer lopez there. is she there, it looks pretty believable, but let's . i pretty believable, but let's. i want to say fake. you're going to say fake? well, i'm afraid thatis to say fake? well, i'm afraid that is real. >> they are glorious creations. >> they are glorious creations. >> rihanna. let's see. rihanna yeah, that's looking pretty. i mean, you see some ridiculous frocks at these sort of things. that's like a giant meringue that she's carrying around that would probably break her back. i'm saying that's 100% fake. that's the sort of thing you might wear on a thursday night, isn't it, down at madame jojo's. remember that. it was always a joke . you're absolutely right. joke. you're absolutely right. it is fake. i finally, then lana del rey, is this fake or fact? that's a good la del rey , that that's a good la del rey, that looks so terrible . and the sort looks so terrible. and the sort of thing, actually, andrew, that some poncy fashion designer would do, even though it looks

like the pits of humanity in terms of its creative aspect, i'm saying that's fact. i love your little resume, your fashion tips. it is, in fact fact. it's totally real. i've also got some. i've also got some pictures of the after show party as well, so you can have a look at this. i think we can roll through the little clips here. i don't know if we've got them in the gallery. i've worked them so hard today. if we have, i know this is this is this one. is that fake or fact , i don't think that fake or fact, i don't think you went. i think that's kylie. it is kylie beckham. that's beckham's true. you've met beckham. i have met beckham . beckham. i have met beckham. i've met kylie. there we go. this one. that's. that's also true. saint paul's . you with true. saint paul's. you with kylie was fake. no. it's true. i was with kylie , here you are. was with kylie, here you are. who's that? duran duran duran. i think you've met them. that's true. that is true. >> there you go. there we go. >> there you go. there we go. >> do you know who that is, this is all the met show party afterwards. i'm saying that that's fake. no, that's true as well. and this is me as a james bond thing. the after show at the met party. fake or fact? double. oh, fact . it is. double. double. oh, fact. it is. double. >> oh fact i love it. you were really good. >> so what i have to say question everything nowadays we looked at how you can change

people's voices, how you can speak in different languages when you're using this for elections and stuff like that. question everything. superb stuff. andrew eborn fake or fact. always a pleasure. and that's all from me for now. and don't forget dewbs& co is next six till seven and don't forget to join us from 6 am. tomorrow. it's breakfast with stephen and anne, followed by britain's newsroom. of course, at 930, and then tom and emily with good afternoon britain from midday. then it's my ugly mish back at three. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. thank you so much. i've loved it here in paddington. in fact, i'm here. i'm doing breakfast saturday and sunday. but before that, your weather. and it's alex deakin . weather. and it's alex deakin. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb views. who's . views. who's. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news tomorrow. well, more the same

pretty much for most places are fine . fairly warm spring day. fine. fairly warm spring day. it's not been glorious everywhere today. there's been quite a bit of cloud around across parts of the north, and some outbreaks of rain just trickling across northern scotland that will continue through the night across northern parts of the mainland up towards the northern isles. for most, though, it's going to be a dry night with clear spells, a bit of mist and low cloud . returning to parts of cloud. returning to parts of eastern england and in southern england, south wales , maybe 1 or england, south wales, maybe 1 or 2 fog patches around temperatures could dip down as low as 4 or 3 degrees in some rural spots . most towns and rural spots. most towns and cities, though, staying in double digits and a fine day to come on friday, any morning fog in the south will clear pretty quickly. some mistiness around some coasts, perhaps parts of norfolk and suffolk, some damp weather early on across shetland, but that should scoot away. small chance of an afternoon shower over northern england and southern scotland, but the vast majority dry , fine but the vast majority dry, fine and warmer than today 21, 22, maybe 2324. in a few places. fine day to come on saturday as well. perhaps again, some of this mist and low cloud just

threatening to make it quite murky on some eastern coasts, but for most dry fine and sunny, maybe again, 1 or 2 isolated, but perhaps heavy showers over northern england and southern scotland. but generally more spnng scotland. but generally more spring sunshine to come and warmer still 23, 24, maybe 25 on saturday in those sunny spells. bye for now . bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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there he is? the man to deliver it? and many recruitment agencies are making a not so small fortune supplying agency staff to a desperate nhs. let me ask you this. do you think this is basically all fair business, or is it exploitation? and an asylum seeker has said that he should be granted special status because as an olympic medal winner, should he be or not? and also, have you ever lost someone that you really, really love? would you take the opportunity then to get them to live on as an artificial intelligence bot? you can maybe talk to them, share your life with them . is share your life with them. is this a great way to combat your grief and loneliness, or is it a little bit weird? you tell me. got all of that? come. and marv even got a nice, happy story tonight. what a treat. but before we get stuck in, let's cross live for tonight's latest news headlines.

>> very good evening to you. i'm aaron