i >> -- >> 930 on tuesday, the 14th of may. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. she's back from her latest holiday. >> it's lovely to be back now. a zenpix breakthrough. millions of middle aged brits could be given weight loss injections to cut their risks of heart attack and strokes by a fifth. but what might the risks of the injection also be.7 >> also be? >> and politicians arrested for serious sexual offences could be banned from attending parliament automatically after a vote by 100 and 1769 votes in favour, only last night, and unemployment has risen. >> the amount of people out of work in britain has hit its

highest rate for almost a year. why do you think that might be? >> and crack down on those just stop oil protesters ? the stop oil protesters? the government's adviser on political violence says groups like just stop oil should be treated like terrorist organisations. but are they going just perhaps a step too far? >> great stories today. a lot of smartphones to oh, and smartphones. we're going to be talking to miriam cates mp, who is leading this charge to restrict the use of mobile phones for children, something i am also very much on board with. are you? let us know your thoughts this morning. gbnews.com forward slash your safer. so the very latest news with sam francis . with sam francis. >> very good morning to you. it's just after half past nine the headlines this hour from the

newsroom as we heard, the rate of unemployment is at its highest level for nearly a year, while wage growth remains unchanged at 6. there were 26,000 fewer job vacancies in the three months to april, while the three months to april, while the number of people in work dropped by 85,000. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, struck an optimistic tone this morning, saying that wages are outstripping inflation. but it could be an unhelpful sign for those hoping for a cut in interest rates. well, work and pensions secretary mel stride says that britain's job market, though, does remain resilient. >> unemployment is 40% down on the level it was in 2010. economic inactivity overall is below the average of the oecd. the g7 and the european union, and below the level in france, italy and the united states. and of course, what we've also seen is real wages growing for the 10th consecutive month, real wage growth, which is really important, i think, in terms of giving people security and more money in their pockets and overall of course, the economy is now growing at its fastest

rate in the last two years. >> mel stride there, speaking earlier this morning. in other news, shoppers will be to told back british produce as the prime minister prepares to address farmers . later, rishi address farmers. later, rishi sunak will say that britain must reduce its resilience on reliance, rather on fruit and vegetables from overseas as he announces the first uk food security index, which will monitor production, land use and input costs. labour, though, says the conservatives have dnven says the conservatives have driven farmers to breaking point and have pledged a new deal that they say will put money back in their pockets . and how do you their pockets. and how do you feel about a bowl of slippery , feel about a bowl of slippery, slimy bugs for breakfast? certainly not me . but if that's certainly not me. but if that's enough to make your stomach turn well, a new study suggests that flour made from insects could help make that idea more palatable. insects are rich in protein, easier to farm, and they have less of an impact on they have less of an impact on the environment than livestock. and apparently, when they're incorporated into food, they

could help tackle obesity. but surveys suggest most people are reluctant to eat them . reluctant to eat them. researchers say that using flour denved researchers say that using flour derived from ground crickets or freeze dried mealworms could be an effective way to introduce them to the mainstream . i'm not them to the mainstream. i'm not convinced. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now, though, it's back to andrew and . bev. it's back to andrew and. bev. >> very good morning. it is 934. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well, it's a government commissioned report which says that organisations like just apple, which drive us nuts don't they? and palestine action behind all those marches on saturdays should be proscribed as if they are a terror organisation. >> so this report, led by former labour mp and friend of the show, john woodcock, recommends creating extreme protest

restriction orders which could see the groups banned so what is woodcock? >> lord walney, as you now know, known ? is he right? protest known? is he right? protest groups should be treated like terror organisations , as i can terror organisations, as i can see what he means. but we have to defend, don't we, the right to defend, don't we, the right to protest. >> we have to defend the right to protest. and also one person's terror group might be just stop oil. yeah. whereas they would be to other people. they are crusading for the future generations. i think it's but those are dangerous. >> those marches on saturday. right? a haven't we heard haven't they made their point. but when they are held in march, palestinian marches when jewish men and women feel they cannot go near central london because they feel intimidated. and we've heard the anti—semitic abuse, which hasn't stopped by the police, is that should those marches be stopped? >> what i don't understand about the just stop oil protesters is that, according to various commentators, the police already have sufficient powers to move them on and they're just not using them. so why we have to be

really careful. i think that we don't have this crisis situation with these protesters who do cause huge disruption, but the solution to that problem affects then all of us in any sphere in which we might wish to have our voices heard . voices heard. >> well, let's have a discussion about this. joining us now is kevin schofield. well known to this program? he's from the huffpost uk and the political commentator benedict spence. gentlemen good morning kevin. let's talk to you first with your bleeding heart liberal hat on here, if you don't mind me saying so, what's your take on this? is it is he going too far in saying that groups like just stop oil should be treated like terrorists ? terrorists? >> yeah, i find myself in agreement with yourself here, andrew, i think it is going too far just to point out annoying. the whole point of them is that they're annoying. they will admit that they are annoying. thatis admit that they are annoying. that is the whole purpose of what they do. they want to annoy people and cause as much disruption as possible. but i think prescribing them effectively as if they were a terrorist organisation , i think terrorist organisation, i think

most people would agree that that's a step too far. i think the main problem here is , is, the main problem here is, is, they think that they can act with impunity because the cases take so long to come to court. it can be years between arrest and potential convictions . so and potential convictions. so you can absolutely understand why they think, well, it's worth the hassle because we're not going to see the inside of a court for a very long time. so we might as well do it. surely it's better to invest more money in, freeing up this logjam within the court system and therefore allowing the police to, use the powers that they have to disperse these protests and then, see, these people eventually see some sort of justice. i think that is the problem here, that they feel they can act with impunity. i think that i think that would be a better solution, rather than just using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. >> benedict spence, do you have similar concerns about civil liberties? if we have governments saying that you can't, that any protester is effectively a terrorist? >> i think that what we've seen with organisations like just

stop oil, but also with, i suppose to a lesser degree, perhaps the pro—palestine marches, on a smaller scale , marches, on a smaller scale, individuals perhaps behaving in a certain way is that as britain , society becomes far less about high trust . protesters feel that high trust. protesters feel that they can, as kevin says, they can act with impunity, they can misbehave, and that in some ways, the smallness of their protests actually justifies their misbehaving. and i think we you think back to things like the countryside alliance marches or the protests against the war in iraq, where you had huge numbers of people actually taking to the streets. but there was never any sort of real suggestion that these people were going to go out and act, go out and act in a criminal fashion with impunity. actually, one of the things that we had in this country for a very long time was the fact that people could go on demonstrations and actually be trusted up to a point, to behave. there were some exceptions, obviously, to that, but increasingly , i think that, but increasingly, i think when it came to marches across our capital city, that was the case. but what seems to actually define things like just stop oil, is the wanton desire to cause vandalism and disruption .

cause vandalism and disruption. it's not like they go out and they march and nobody listens. and so they try to ratchet it up. it's the default mode that they go into arcs, galleries, that they go into places of work that they go into places of work that they go into places of work that they cause criminal damage. and also, frankly, they risk things becoming very dangerous because one of the things that we have to remember about all of this is if you go out, rather than simply to protest and make your voice heard, but to deliberately irritate and wind people up, you risk maybe making other members of the public, a party to it, because people will get angry. people will react if they're not able to get to work, if they are, you know, having their days disrupted, if people are ill and they need to get to see a doctor and you have some environmentalists, some 80 year old environmentalist who has nowhere else better to be other than gluing themselves to a road. you do risk people actually taking matters into their own hands, and it is much their own hands, and it is much the responsibility of the police to stop that from happening. so whilst i don't like the idea of us moving towards a direction where we are overly criminalising organisations and using language like prescribing them like they're a terrorist organisation, which is difficult

enough as it is given that there are actual terrorist organisations that we don't prescribe in this country for various reasons. i just think that the longer that we indulge a lot of these groups and they are fringe groups, frankly, they are fringe groups, frankly, they are quite extreme in their views. the longer that we indulge this and we do not take them more seriously, the more likely it is that right now a lot of people don't necessarily agree with prescribing them, agree with prescribing them, but that could very easily change, kevin, can we also talk about this morning another issue, unemployment figures risen this morning . now, we don't quite morning. now, we don't quite know the detail of this. and we're speculating as to why that might be. is it that brits are getting work shine? there is an element of choice not to work, particularly amongst younger people at the moment . or particularly amongst younger people at the moment. or is this just a sign of a lack of growth over the last ten years? >> yeah, i think it's more the latter than the former. i think by and large, people want to work. they want to earn money and pay tax. you know, and improve their standard of living, the danger, i think, for the government here is that, you

know, we're hearing about the economy going gangbusters, we've turned a corner . stick with the turned a corner. stick with the plan. but the problem for the government is that if that doesn't feed through, if people don't feel like that is the case in their own day to day lives, then it could look, to them, like the government is out of touch. so. yeah. so this will be a concern. undoubtedly for government because it cuts across that narrative with the election looming, that they want to say that the economy is going really well, everything is looking rosy, and we've got through the worst of it. stick with us. don't take a chance with us. don't take a chance with labour, but, with us. don't take a chance with labour, but , data like with us. don't take a chance with labour, but, data like this certainly won't help them . certainly won't help them. >> bennett. what about i mean, kevin conveniently ignores the fact that. what is it now? 2.8 million people now on sickness benefit because they're not well enough to go to work? a lot of them, it's their mental health, of course. isn't that a big part of course. isn't that a big part of the problem? now >> mental health is a poor mental health. we should say, rather than just mental health. poor mental health is a part of the problem. and the issue that ihave the problem. and the issue that i have with that is there isn't really a concerted plan to get

many people back into work or to alleviate their symptoms. and one of the problems we have in this country when it comes to mental health conditions, and it's not simply things like depression. you also see this in the way that children are medicated for being adhd or whatever it is, is that there's this idea that you just prescribe people the pills and the therapy and that that's just kind of it. and that actually people can sort of continue on indefinitely. there's a real problem that we have about actually reintegrating people back into the workforce, because there is this idea that mental health is something that you can't really talk about too much. you can just say, oh, it's bad. here is your medication. i hope you feel better, but is there any sort of real drive to push people to get back into work? no, because people then turn around and say, well, that's cruel. you know, you're potentially endangering that person's mental health, you potentially making it worse. the pressures will amount and they won't be able to get back into the workforce. it's unsustainable and it is equally unsustainable and it is equally unsustainable because obviously the taxpayer is having to fund this whilst being told that there are huge, huge numbers of vacant jobs in this country, which we need to fill by

bringing in people to work, lower wages, which suppresses economic growth across the board. it's not a sustainable model actually bringing in people to work minimum wage to prop up a system with millions of people on out of work benefits because of their mental health that cannot go on in perpetuity. and yet i don't see a long term solution out of it. not coming from this government anyway. >> yeah, kevin, how can we have both a labour shortage and high unemployment at the moment? you know, we go into any shop or restaurant we've all experienced it. there's not enough staff, there's not enough waiting staff. you sometimes i've been into restaurants where there isn't. the kitchen has had to close because they can't get a chef. and yet we've got an employment rising. so something is being has gone very badly wrong with our labour landscape in this country. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and you've got to ask, you know, i think as you mentioned, you mentioned there that growth, although it is just about returning to the economy , it's returning to the economy, it's still been fairly anaemic for a very long time. for several years, really. and the economy just isn't creating enough jobs.

clearly i don't think to, satisfy the demand that is there in the system. so yeah , as in the system. so yeah, as i say, this is a very concerning piece of data. hopefully it's a blip. hopefully it turns around and starts heading in the opposite direction. because, you know, we've been through recessions, we've been through pandemics, we've been through financial crash. and by and large, unemployment has remained remarkably low. and the economy has has remained pretty resilient. however, it's definitely one worth keeping an eye on, as i say, especially with an election coming and labour will seek to take advantage of it as much as possible. >> okay, kevin schofield, benedict, thank you so much for joining us this morning. let us know your thoughts at home about what is going on with the employment situation. sorry >> i'm sorry. there's too many people swinging the lead as my late dad would have said. they just are. and they don't want to do the lowly paid jobs and the benefit system still disproportionately means you're better off working part time or even being on benefits, which is a scandal that was supposed to have been fixed ten years ago. ian duncan tried his best,

didn't he? when he was working pensions sector, but they're losing the plot on it. >> what do you think? gbnews.com/yoursay up next. there's a huge football match on tonight. i'm sure you have set your diary clear, andrew. sit and watch the football at man city against tottenham. it could be a title decider , but it's not be a title decider, but it's not just those two teams who are going to be watching the game. we'll explain why in

gb news. ray. good morning. so a groundbreaking study has found that weight loss drugs like ozempic can reduce the risk of heart attack and strokes by a fifth. >> it's a cardiologist. >> it's a cardiologist. >> say these weight loss jabs are the most significant element in heart disease prevention since 1990. with statins. but doesit since 1990. with statins. but does it come with risks? >> so joining us now is pharmacist pharmacist at thorn govind nice to see you again thorn how are you. good to see you.so thorn how are you. good to see you. so people are very excited about this. we know that obesity is a terrible problem in all

western countries. it is just this one and it is costing the nhs billions of pounds a year. so rejoice at the fact that there might be a solution . but there might be a solution. but doesit there might be a solution. but does it come with risks as every drug does ? drug does? >> yeah. it's really important that we note that every drug does come with risks. but i would say this is exciting because we know that 8 million brits have heart disease and that costs the economy about 25 billion. so that is a huge amount of money that we're spending each year when it comes to if you think about obesity , to if you think about obesity, the big risk it has on the whole body, particularly our heart, which is why i've mentioned there about heart disease. now, this is, i think this is really exciting. they've done this study and it found that those who didn't, it helped. those who didn't lose weight, but it also helped those who did. and it as we heard there, it's reduced the risk of further heart attacks and death. i think this is something that we've got some really positive news about, because what we know is that

drug development is not an easy process. that's why you don't hear lots about new drugs being developed. to be honest, you it takes a while for them to come on the market. we're constantly monitoring the side effects, and you will have seen in the news that these drugs do also have risks as well. and there's that. what they're calling the cosmetic face, which is people having quite gaunt facial features and it being quite obvious in some cases that they have taken, medication, which is to reduce their weight. so i think , i think this is an think, i think this is an exciting possibility given the effects and positivity on the heart. but i also think we need to be careful and we shouldn't be rushing to this. and all of these weight loss drugs you have to be looking at the diet and you have to be looking at exercise as well. they're not a quick fix and that is my concern i >> -- >> well, m >> well, that's that's exactly what i was going to ask you. won't this encourage people who want to be a couch potato sit in front of the television eating rubbish, processed food to think doesn't matter. now i can take this drug, it's going to help me

with my weight and more importantly, it's going to prevent heart disease . prevent heart disease. >> so here's the thing. as soon as you stop taking them, we know there can be you can start to put on the weight again. so really for me, i would be saying before you even start these drugs and remember, these are prescription only medications . prescription only medications. lie—ins you need to have a consultation with a prescriber. don't think about getting them onune don't think about getting them online or from stranger sources onune online or from stranger sources online because you don't know what drug you're getting. you need to make sure you're getting the proper drug from a licensed provider and you then need to think before you even start it. you need to think about measures you're going to take to in your lifestyle. this is part of a lifestyle. this is part of a lifestyle change. it's not a quick fix, and i think people who are going to start taking it and thinking this is a quick fix are actually putting themselves in a really dangerous position. i think . okay. thank you. i think. okay. thank you. foreign, foreign. given their pharmacist we're going to be talking about this again at 11:00 as well with renee hoenderkamp who feels quite strongly that we have to be quite cautious with this.

>> i think you do with all drugs now. we're very versatile on this programme, but we don't normally talk about football, which i know nothing about. apparently there are 11 players in a team. >> did you know that beverly, all men normally, normally all men. >> but tonight tottenham could hand the premier league title to arsenal if they beat man city. now paul coyte is on. >> i'm not squirming or looking uncomfortable in any way whatsoever, so you can explain to us paul, tottenham need to win tonight if they want to qualify for europe. >> but there's why are so many tottenham fans rooting for manchester city to win tonight? right. >> so spurs a tottenham fan i am indeed spurs play manchester city tonight . now manchester city tonight. now manchester city, the way that the table is at the moment, we're coming to the end of the premier league season, which ends this weekend, which you'll be see. the thing is, andrew walks past my desk every day, talks football, pretends there's no loves the football. arsenal have played 37 games. they've got one game left right and they're on 86 points. and then we've got manchester city, who have got two games left on 85 right now. stop me if

i'm throwing you so manchester city will play spurs tonight. now the fact is if manchester city lose to spurs and spurs would want to win , that's would want to win, that's basically handing arsenal the title because there will be one game left and if arsenal win it, then it's there, it's there, it'll be too much. and that for a spurs fans, is just unthinkable. >> the london rivalry because of the huge rivalry between spurs and arsenal, so it's one of the first games i can ever remember where i know that there are spurs fans that would prefer to lose the game now if there was nothing to play for. >> for spurs, then you'd think, well, that's okay, because maybe they would roll over. but there's still a chance that spurs could get into the champions league now that is a possibility if they win the next two games and aston villa lose their next one. so the question is would spurs fans be happy to actually say , okay, we won't go actually say, okay, we won't go in the champions? we'd rather not be in the champions league

if it means that arsenal didn't win the title, are you? i'm not torn at all because obviously i just want spurs to win every game, every time i talk to you about football, you start foaming at the mouth at the very idea arsenal might win. well that's true, it's an it's an awful thought for any tottenham hotspur fan that arsenal would win the title, but it's awful the fact that it's coming to this game and then you think, am i going to question my own team here? and want them to lose? the answer is no, because really , to answer is no, because really, to be honest with you, it goes a whole season. if they deserve it, they deserve it. but when it comes to emotions, different kettle of fish, who is going to win it? who is going to win it? no, i think manchester city will win it. i actually do think they'll win it. but. but also they'll win it. but. but also the other thing is that you would expect manchester city to do that. but spurs are their bogey team of all the teams they play bogey team of all the teams they play for some reason. they just they've only they've never scored a goal at the new tottenham hotspur stadium. this is in seven years in the premier league. so it could go either way. but it's going to be an

uncomfortable view. >> thank you paul i'm not watching. >> oh yes you will i'm not watching. >> right. let's come this morning including miriam cates rempe talking about whether children should be banned from using smartphones. >> don't go anywhere. >> don't go anywhere. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> morning. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. eden golan a damp day for many today, but it will be brighter compared to yesterday and parts of wales and southwest england and northern scotland again doing okay for some warm sunshine here, but sunshine in short supply today over southern scotland, northern and eastern parts of england . north wales parts of england. north wales too, staying pretty dull and pretty damp throughout , maybe pretty damp throughout, maybe brightening up at times. of course, the east coast of england much brighter compared to yesterday for wales and southwest england. some sunny spells here, but a possibility of 1 or 2 sharp showers feeling

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gb news. >> good morning. it's 10:00 gb news. >> good morning. it's10:00 on tuesday, the 14th of may. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce. >> big breakthrough on ozempic. millions of middle aged brits could be given the weight loss injections to cut not just their weight, but the risk of heart attacks and stroke by a fifth. but of course there will be side effects . effects. >> so politicians arrested for serious sexual offences could be banned from attending parliament after mps voted 170 to 169 in favour of this last night. that's only arrested, not charged . charged. >> unemployment's gone up. the number of people out of work in britain has hit its highest rate for almost a year. we'll explain why and farm to fork summit.

>> rishi sunak welcomes farmers to downing street today as he announces new support for agriculture. but will it be enough? we' re enough? we're going to be talking to two farmers who are going to be there at downing street today to tell us why did you see the tractor parked outside downing street ? right. rishi sunak street? right. rishi sunak obviously cooperate, collaborate, collaborating and cooperating with that campaign. >> and it's a lot to do with blaming eu. i thought we'd left the eu. yeah. so why are we why are they still meddling and sticking their nose in? >> do you watch clarkson's farm? i do oh, it's so good. if you want to understand farming in a way , clarkson's farm has done way, clarkson's farm has done a brilliant job of lifting the lid on what life is really like for a farmer. let us know your thoughts this morning gbnews.com/yoursay. firstly, for the very latest news with sam.

>> bev and andrew, thank you very much. good morning to you. it's just after 10:00 leading the news this morning, as we heard there, the rate of unemployment is at its highest level for nearly a year, while wage growth is unchanged at 6. there were 26,000 fewer job vacancies in the three months to april, while the number of people in work dropped by 85,000. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, struck an optimistic tone this morning, saying that wages are outstripping inflation but that it could be an unhelpful sign for those hoping for a cut in interest rates. well, work and pensions secretary mel stride says britain's job market remains resilient. >> unemployment is 40% down on the level it was in 2010. economic inactivity overall is below the average of the oecd. the g7 and the european union and below the level in france , and below the level in france, italy and the united states. and of course, what we've also seen is real wages growing for the 10th consecutive month. real wage growth, which is really

important, i think, in terms of giving people security and more money in their pockets. and overall , of course, the economy overall, of course, the economy is now growing at its fastest rate in the last two years. >> in other news, there are warnings that britain's upcoming fleet of ships and submarines might be outdated before they even hit the waves. former royal navy commander rear admiral chris parry says there's an urgent need to swiftly adapt to evolving warfare technology. the warning comes as the defence secretary prepares to address the annual first sea lords conference, heralding what he's calling a golden era of shipbuilding for the navy. grant shapps told us this morning that the government's making that critical investment because, he says, britain will need to fight and win future battles . and win future battles. >> we are living in more dangerous times . clearly we've dangerous times. clearly we've got a war in europe with ukraine being illegally invaded. we've got conflict in the middle east and we've got the rise of china, who really do present a vig. and we've described it as epoch

defining change to the world and britain and the united kingdom and our allies must be ready for that. >> grant shapps they're speaking to us earlier this morning. well, shoppers will be to told back british produce as the prime minister prepares to address farmers later, rishi sunak will say that britain must reduce its reliance on fruit and vegetables from overseas as he announces the first uk food security index , which will security index, which will monitor production, land use and input costs . labour, though, input costs. labour, though, says the conservatives have dnven says the conservatives have driven farmers to breaking point and have pledged a new deal that they say will put money back in farmers pockets . a watchdog is farmers pockets. a watchdog is warning that dangerous criminals are being freed from prison too early, as the government tries to address overcrowding in jails. chief inspector of pfisons jails. chief inspector of prisons charlie taylor has raised what he says are serious concerns about the policy, citing high risk inmates are selected for early release. some examples include a domestic abuser who may have posed a risk

to children , and a man with to children, and a man with a serious drug problem, and a history of self—harm . history of self—harm. researchers this morning are hailing new findings , which hailing new findings, which suggest that weight loss injections could have benefits beyond just shedding the pounds more than 17,000 participants from over 40 countries took part in the largest study of semaglutide so far, while the drug, which is sold under the brand names ozempic and wegovy, showed significant weight loss, it also reduced the risk of heart attacks, stroke and heart failure by 20. and that was even if the patients lost no weight . if the patients lost no weight. doctors say those findings will challenge health authorities, which currently limit treatments of the jabs to just two years. some tech news now and rival to chatgpt , called claude, is now chatgpt, called claude, is now available in europe and in britain. the ai assistants being developed by amazon backed start up anthropic. the company says a special method of training called constitutional i means

the technology is bound by a set of values to avoid doing any harm, and a dedicated team , they harm, and a dedicated team, they say, will track and address any risks to the system , like risks to the system, like possible misinformation, bias or even election interference. and finally, before we head back to andrew and bev, how do you feel about a bowl of bugs for breakfast? well, if it's enough to make your stomach turn, a new study has suggested that flour made from creepy crawlies could help make the idea more palatable. insects are rich in protein. they're easier to farm, and they have less of an impact on the environment than livestock. and apparently when they're incorporated into your food, they could also help tackle obesity. but surveys suggest most of us are reluctant to eat them. researchers say that ground crickets or freeze dned that ground crickets or freeze dried mealworms could be an effective way to introduce them to the mainstream . that's the to the mainstream. that's the latest from the newsroom for now. for more, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning

the qr code on your screen, or go to our website, gb news. com slash alerts . slash alerts. >> 1006 1006 the britain's newsroom and gb news, with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> let's see what you've been saying at home. john has just asked if anybody on the show today is taking the weight loss drug. you need to ask how they're getting it, because at they're getting it, because at the moment my understanding is john says it's illegal and gp's throughout england are not allowed to prescribe it. >> we're going to talk to a gp about it, but i think if you've got type 2 diabetes you can get you can have it prescribed, but there are all sorts of qualifications. >> yeah, we're going to be talking, like i say in just a moment to a doctor and also to a friend of the show, carol maloney, who takes ozempic to tell us what that's like to take it about these unemployment figures. carol has said people are working full time with health problems, both physical and mental. it makes thousands of working people angry to support the people who choose not to work, but are happy to make the use of money, sometimes

provided by the tax paid by someone in worse health than themselves. it's a very good point. on clarkson's farm we've got this. we're going to be talking to two farmers who are at number 10 today for the farm to fork campaign . at number 10 today for the farm to fork campaign. i at number 10 today for the farm to fork campaign . i watched them to fork campaign. i watched them all last night. yes, it is not always easy for farmers, says martin, who is a gb news member. thank you. martin it was quite emotional watching this programme . farmers and yes, programme. farmers and yes, farmers get overrun by deer and do they need da da da da da anyway, clarkson and his wife and team. that just does a brilliant job. this series is great. yes, that's absolutely true. >> when i saw that tractor in number, outside number 10, it just had this whiff of gimmick about it. it doesn't fit, but it's. but it's a i'm glad he's engaging with them. and you've got to engage with them because you've got to talk to farmers . you've got to talk to farmers. you've seen all those protests throughout europe. yeah, we've seen them in wales. did we see them in scotland as well? >> yeah, we saw them all around the world. >> yeah, yeah, germany. >> yeah, yeah, germany. >> netherlands was huge. >> netherlands was huge. >> yeah, paris. >> yeah, paris. >> and it's because so many farmers now are being told by governments they have to give up

agricultural land and plant trees. it's all about saving the environment, of course, which means are they going to feed us? and what is the money coming through? >> lots of your messages coming. keep them coming. >> your gbnews.com/yoursay breaking news here because we're crossing to the court of appeal, which is delivering the ruling on valdo calocane. he is the nottingham killer. his sentencing. let's have a listen. the offences understandably caused shock and concern throughout the country and beyond , and unimaginable grief beyond, and unimaginable grief to the victim's family and friends . friends. >> the offender is now 32 years old. he does not appear to have had mental health problems until 2019, and he had no previous convictions. the psychiatric experts agreed that the offender was suffering from treatment resistant paranoid schizophrenia

. his symptoms included persecutory , delusional beliefs, persecutory, delusional beliefs, hallucinations, thought alienation and disturbed behaviour . alienation and disturbed behaviour. the alienation and disturbed behaviour . the experts alienation and disturbed behaviour. the experts agreed that had he not been experiencing symptoms of acute psychosis , he would not have psychosis, he would not have perpetrated the acts . he was perpetrated the acts. he was entirely driven by the psychotic process. all the medical experts agreed that a hospital order with restrictions was appropriate, and that a life sentence of imprisonment with a hospital and limitation order under section 45 a of the mental health act 1983, known as a hybnd health act 1983, known as a hybrid order, would not provide the public with the same level of public protection . the issue of public protection. the issue and the argument. the of public protection. the issue and the argument . the sole and the argument. the sole question for us was whether the

sentences imposed are unduly lenient. this is a high hurdle. the court must ask whether the sentences fell outside the range of sentences, which the judge , of sentences, which the judge, applying his mind to all the relevant factors , could relevant factors, could reasonably consider appropriate , reasonably consider appropriate, whether, in other words, the judge below has fallen into gross error . the solicitor gross error. the solicitor general argues one that the judge failed to reflect sufficiently the multiple aggravating features of the offending when arriving at an appropriate minimum term of imprisonment under a life sentence . secondly, that the sentence. secondly, that the judge failed to take sufficient account first of evidence to the effect that the offender's culpability was not extinguished by his mental illness and second, the extent of the harm

caused and thirdly, that the judge was wrong not to include a penal element in the sentence. it was submitted that the overall seriousness of the case required the imposition of a hybnd required the imposition of a hybrid order. our analysis . it hybrid order. our analysis. it is accepted by the solicitor general that the judge made no error of principle in his approach, and that his choice was stark and binary either. hybnd was stark and binary either. hybrid orders or hospital and restrictions orders. the solicitor general contends that the offender's criminality was aggravated by multiple features, including planning and the purchase of knives. however the psychiatric evidence established that these actions were part of one psychotic episode of intense

severity . he the judge, severity. he the judge, recognised that the offender's culpability was not extinguished and that he had to consider whether a penal element was necessary because the offender's level of retained responsibility was low , and in circumstances was low, and in circumstances where the offending would not have taken place, but for the offender's schizophrenia. the judge was entitled to conclude that a penal element was unnecessary. this was so despite the number of victims and despite the extent of the harm caused . the schizophrenia was caused. the schizophrenia was the sole identified cause of these crimes . so, for example, these crimes. so, for example, there was no evidence of substance abuse, no evidence of any culpable failure to take

medication or any motive for attacking attacking these victims was the key factor in a case like this. when deciding whether or not a penal element is required, is the strength of the link between the offenders impairment and the offending in question . here at the time of question. here at the time of the assaults, the offender was in the grip of a severe psychotic episode. the judge, properly took into account the different regimes that would apply , depending on which of the apply, depending on which of the two possible sentences was imposed. his conclusion that hospital orders with restrictions were appropriate was consistent with the principle that the graver the offence and the greater the risk to the public, the greater the emphasis that should be placed on the protection of the public.

he reached the reasonable conclusion based on the psychiatric evidence before him, that the aim of public protection would better be served by hospital, with restrictions orders. in any event, the extreme violence perpetrated by the offender makes it very likely that whichever of the two options had been adopted, the offender will spend the rest of his life in a secure hospital . our conclusion secure hospital. our conclusion there was no error in the approach adopted by the judge . approach adopted by the judge. the sentences imposed were not arguably unduly lenient. leave to refer the sentences is refused . it is impossible to refused. it is impossible to read of the circumstances of this offending without doubt,

the greatest possible sympathy for the victims of these terrible attacks and their family and their friends. terrible attacks and their family and their friends . the family and their friends. the victim impact statements paint a graphic picture of the appalling effects of the offender's conduct . conduct. >> so that is baroness carr. she's the lady chief justice to give her a formal title, passing their judgement on the valdo calocane case. remember barnaby weber ? grace o'malley kumar, weber? grace o'malley kumar, both aged 19, stabbed to death. she went to help her friend and was killed as a result. and the van driver, ian coates, who was 65, he because of that sentence they wanted they appealed. the attorney general got involved because they thought they should because they thought they should be a whole life sentence for him because of course he's detained in hospital and they can't be whole life sentence within, within a prison is what they wanted. >> they did interesting . they're >> they did interesting. they're listening to baroness carr talking about the fact that there was no evidence of

substance abuse. yeah, that came as a bit of a surprise to say that there was no evidence of any sort of mental illness before 2019, and that actually this acute psychotic episode of untreatable paranoid schizophrenia is what led to him carrying out those horrific acts. >> and of course, he said it's manslaughter, not murder. and yet, ironically, he was convicted of attempted murder when he drove ian ian ian coates's van into some pedestrian passers by. so he was convicted of attempted murder there, but not murdering those three people. i still am baffled by that judgement. i'm afraid . i by that judgement. i'm afraid. i was with the attorney general and very much with the family, and very much with the family, and they must be devastated. i mean, nothing brings them back, does it? but you can understand why they'd want him locked up in a prison. and the key thrown away forever. yeah. >> okay. moving on now, a groundbreaking study has found that weight loss drugs like ozempic can reduce the risk of heart attack and strokes by a fifth. >> cardiologists say these jabs are the most significant

development in heart disease since statins in 1990. but does it come without risks? we're going to talk now to the journalist and friend of the show, carole malone, who's on ozempic, an nhs gp doctor, david lloyd. doctor lloyd, can we speak to you first? a lot of viewers are getting in touch. aniston's getting in touch, saying, well, i want to send it, but i can't get it on the nhs. what are the rules? so the rules are for an ordinary general practitioner. >> we can't prescribe, a rempe and its other drugs for obesity alone. we can only prescribe it for diabetes. alone. we can only prescribe it for diabetes . and such is the for diabetes. and such is the demand for ozempic that we've actually been given directions that we can only just start prescribing it again for our diabetics. so the huge demand that we've had for people with obesity around the world has really restricted the availability of semaglutide, which is the active ingredient. and other drugs like it. so yes, we're very much restricted . we're very much restricted. >> so carol, how did you manage to find a rempe privately then?

is that . yeah. you know, is that is that. yeah. you know, is that how you managed to get it? >> you. yeah you can you can source it online and you have to find a reputable company. the company that i use is called juniper. and you buy the suppues juniper. and you buy the supplies online, you go through a process where you get interviewed, you get talk, they talk to you about your weight and then if they think you're suitable, then you're you're allotted the drug , i mean, it's allotted the drug, i mean, it's an interesting this study is incredible . it's the biggest of incredible. it's the biggest of its kind ever. it's 70 000 people. and it's a game changer. it's been described as a game changer by, john deanfield, who was one of the country. this is this is for art. but the other, i think is that it helps people lose weight and it has helped millions of people , doc, doctor, millions of people, doc, doctor, doctor. lloyd, if really . yeah. doctor. lloyd, if really. yeah. we're just going to go to doctor lloyd. so if . this study, if the lloyd. so if. this study, if the government accepts this study ,

government accepts this study, you're going to be enough of zembic in the world. >> well, perhaps can i, i mean, i think can i just talk slightly technical just for a moment. >> sure. >> sure. >> so this study shows that there is a huge reduction in the in the amount of heart disease over the three year study, and that equates to if you were to give a zembic to 65 people, you would prevent one heart attack or stroke. now, if you compare that to a statin, you need to give, 45 people a statin to prevent a heart attack or stroke. >> so the rate at which these drugs affect your. the chance of getting a heart attack or a stroke are roughly the same. but statins do have the slight edge. now, in this country at the moment, about 7 million people take a statin, and the cost to the nhs of about £3 a month, if

you do the calculation, we think that about 12 million people should be taking a statin every month , again at the cost of £3 a month, again at the cost of £3 a month. and so that will, if you multiply 61 and 65 by those 3 million, that will be the number of lives that we, if was on a statin , who should be on it. now statin, who should be on it. now the cost of zembic is about £300 a month. so if we were to put everybody who needed it needed a semaglutide on on this drug, we would cost the country billions and billions of pounds. so it's and billions of pounds. so it's a big decision already. i mean, i'm afraid i'm a very old gp, but when i first started the drug bill on the nhs , percent of drug bill on the nhs, percent of the total bill of the nhs, it is now 18. so if you every time you get a. elsewhere, which means doctors and nurses losing their

jobs. so it is a hugely complicated equation. but there's no doubt at all these drugs are absolutely amazing. and clinically we've seen the weight loss you can achieve with diabetics and you can get a zembic on the nhs for weight loss . if you zembic on the nhs for weight loss. if you are zembic on the nhs for weight loss . if you are referred to a loss. if you are referred to a specialist weight clinic and there the benefits can be can be measured and accurately . and measured and accurately. and carol, what how is it i want to get over? i do want. to get over this message. there are 4 million people in this country , million people in this country, 20% of people who take ozempic vomit and there are there are some cardiologists who would say, actually, they they. don't feel the same way about exercise. but what ran for 40 years, they are infinitely safe and with respect. >> you are, you are. you are denigrating a drug that one of the top cardiologists in the

country has just said qatar to tax by 20% heart attacks and strokes. so whether denigrating it, i'm saying it's a fantastic advance . advance. >> i'm saying i was fantastic advance and compared to statins, there are they are. >> but you don't sound like you're talking about. >> but really what what am i trying to say? what do you think i'm trying to say ? i'm trying to say? >> i just just just you're saying everyone should take statins and not as epic. >> we've run out of time, both of you. it's such a shame. we could have drilled down into that in a lot more detail, carole malone, of course, and nhs gp doctor, david lloyd. i'm so sorry. we ran out of time, both of you. >> it's fascinating, isn't it, though, because what the doctor has to accept is if his mp may cost a lot more money. >> but if it's some people are questioning the results of this study as well. one of those doctors, doctor renee hoenderkamp, is really looked at the results of the study. it's going to be on the show later because she thinks this is only

half the story. so you don't want to miss that. but still to come this morning, common sense minister, as she's been tagged, esther mcvey is bringing more common sense. apparently ray. but rainbow lanyards in the workplace. she'd like to see them banned. find out why this is britain's newsroom on

gb news. >> in 27, britain's newsroom with gb news. with andrew pearson. we've got the panel with us. nigel nelson and lord colville agency. gentlemen, you've just heard the reaction, the verdict against calocane stays the same . it's not being stays the same. it's not being changed to murder. so he could potentially get a whole life sentence. what do you think, i think that judges have to be left to do their job. and if they say that there was no error in sentencing in the first place, i think we take that in. and it was the attorney general who wanted this case to go, as did the families of us. yes, as

as the families. >> we're expecting them to react shortly to to the the verdict. yeah. so you're content that it's the right. >> yes. >> yes. >> i mean, all the judges were doing was saying that the original sentence was correct. >> yeah. covid i think this is where it does get difficult because as nigel says , the because as nigel says, the judges are saying, the original sense is correct. whether we feel and the families feel, they'll be interesting to hear what the families think about this. well, they'll be disappointed. they'll be very disappointed. they'll be very disappointed . disappointed. >> the bit i struggle with, and i'm not a lawyer, but i struggle with, manslaughter to diminish responsibility for killing those three people. but he was sentenced for attempted murder for driving the van, ian's van into three people. so why wasn't that diminished responsibility? >> i don't understand, i. i wish i knew the law better, but i think it's each individual instance is judged separately. yeah. and in that basis, those are the conclusions that they come up to. >> we are expecting the families

of emma webber, emma webber, the mother of barnaby webber, to respond at some point. and we'll bnng respond at some point. and we'll bring you that when we get that. >> so esther mcvey has announced nigel, a ban on, political or kind of identity lanyards in the workplace , in the civil service, workplace, in the civil service, in the civil service alone? >> yes. what's she trying to do here, do you think? >> well, i mean, my first reaction when i heard it was, this is actually an attack on free expression. and then i heard what esther mcvey said and found i, i agree with her totally, so what she's trying to do is say if you're a civil servant, you're meant to be neutral. you leave your politics behind at the door your behind at the door of your office. lanyards, any office. and so lanyards, any lanyards , whether it be a lanyards, whether it be a rainbow lanyard or a palestinian one or whatever, that should not be be, be worn. they should wear straight forward lanyards, which actually say what the department is . is. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> although it's quite trying to

cut down on the spending on diversity projects within the civil service. £27 million last year alone. >> well, these lanyards are very expensive. you know, we talk about lanyards, but actually , about lanyards, but actually, bev, you made an interesting point. you said workplace. i've spent 25 years in industry and i've seen the change in a workplace environment where unless you are now , especially unless you are now, especially when you're a leader demonstrating that you're augned demonstrating that you're aligned with all the various cohorts of people who are looking to be represented. you're supposed to be allies with various different groups . with various different groups. the civil service is meant to be neutral. i understand what we're saying there, but actually, what is it that you're meant to be bringing into a workplace? yes, you can bring your authentic self, but does it have to be all on display and aligned with every single other person? and i think there is a really good common sense approach here that esther is bang on. yeah, that we need to think about what is the purpose of what we are trying to do in any given environment, and then all the other things that we bring in, do they have to be

there? those are our personal things. >> but work workplace environment are outside. the civil service is a different thing. and the whole point about the civil service is that they are there to support the government of the day, they don't get involved in politics. that's that's a condition of their employment. the same thing won't apply if you work elsewhere . so i don't quite see elsewhere. so i don't quite see extending a ban to other organisations is actually necessary if the organisation itself says as a condition of employment actually you will not wear lanyards that don't have our company logo on, that's fine, but not to actually withdraw the right, which is what's happening in the civil service. >> i didn't know lanyards, advertising your politics or your kind of ecological credentials, or who you like to sleep with was such a big thing in civil service. >> well, it's a big thing everywhere, really. the lanyard has become the item of, i think, this decade , if not more. that this decade, if not more. that demonstrates more than anything else , who you are and what you

else, who you are and what you are. the power of a lanyard. it's not even the past. it's carrying, and i've seen this emerge over the last ten years. you know, it speaks to your belief, your sexuality, your activism, and coupled with some badges on your lapels as well. and these relics are becoming so primary in any environment. >> a report only yesterday covid that one police force. i think it's in the west midlands, spent £24,000 in one year on free from equality lanyards, badges, whistles. what a flippin waste of money when you never see a bobby on the beat. >> and they should be. but they should be neutral too. they should be neutral too. they should not be. they should not be wearing that. that's that's what i mean about there are certain groups that should be neutral and not show any kind of bias. >> either way, i don't know. i quite like to know what somebody feels really strongly about. >> i think that's the other part. your enemy, actually. >> that's a really good point, that if the people being compelled to wear it and they don't want wear well, don't want to wear it, well, that's another to that's that's another point to

look like you fit in quality. yes. you've got to fit in. you have to wear it because there's a thing about being an ally. and if you're not an ally, are you against all division everywhere? >> right, gentlemen? sorry. it's brief because we will be back at court hearing, but you'll be back in the next hour. sam francis is waiting for us with your news. >> very good morning to you. it's 1033, and let's just get a quick round up of that breaking news coming from the court of appeal this morning, where we've heard that three judges have ruled that the sentence of nottingham killer osvaldo calocane was not unduly lenient . calocane was not unduly lenient. barnaby webber, grace o'malley kumar and ian coates were killed by calocane last year. he was given an indefinite hospital order in january after admitting manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility . diminished responsibility. lawyers had argued for a hybrid life sentence where he'd be treated for paranoid schizophrenia before then serving the rest of his term in prison. however delivering the ruling moments ago at the court

of appeal, the three judges said there was no error made when the original sentence was delivered . original sentence was delivered. in other news, the rate of unemployment is at its highest level for nearly a year, while wage growth is unchanged at 6. it's a blow to economists hopes of easing inflation. the bank of england wants to see falls before cutting interest rates . before cutting interest rates. shoppers will be told to back british produce as the prime minister prepares to address farmers later . minister prepares to address farmers later. rishi sunak is expected to tell farmers that the uk must reduce its reliance on fruit and vegetables from overseas . but labour says the overseas. but labour says the conservatives have driven farmers to breaking point and they're promising a new deal to put money back in their pockets . put money back in their pockets. and researchers are hailing new findings, which suggest that weight loss jabs could have benefits beyond just shedding the pounds. a worldwide studies found that injections could also reduce the risk of heart attacks and strokes by a fifth, even if

the patients fail to lose fails to lose weight. doctors say the findings will challenge health authorities, which currently limit treatments to just two years. that's the latest from the newsroom for now. another update at 11:00. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code there on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. >> cheers! >> cheers! >> britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and let's take a look at report, and let's take a look at the markets this morning. >> the pound will buy you $1.2532 and ,1.1617. the price of gold this morning is £1,873.28 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 8424 points. >> cheers, britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news

financial report . financial report. >> still to come this morning. the court of appeal has ruled that the sentence of nottingham killer valdo calocane was not unduly lenient. >> yeah, he was given an indefinite hospital order for manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility . the diminished responsibility. the family and the attorney general were pressing for it to be convicted of murder, so he could then be potentially given a whole life sentence and never released from jail. >> yeah. we're expecting to hear from the families of barnaby webber, grace o'malley kumar and ian coates, who were killed by calocane. any moment now. this is britain's newsroom on .

gb news. so are you going abroad for your summer holidays this year? >> yes. >> yes. >> where are you going? anywhere nice. >> south of france and to

romania . romania. >> oh. that's controversial. why are you going to romania? >> looking at old castles . going >> looking at old castles. going to see transylvania. really? yeah. some people say i might find my relatives there. that's unkind, isn't it? i just said it before she did because i knew she was thinking of it. you see, she was thinking of it. you see, she was thinking of it. you see, she was about to say it. >> but i anticipate going to transylvania to find what? >> no. >> no. >> they are amazing. amazingly beautiful. part of romania. >> the home of dracula. it's the home of dracula. >> well, bram stoker, it is fiction, remember? well actually, vlad the impaler was from transylvania, and i think that's basically dracula. but that's basically dracula. but that's the point about this isn't my holiday arrangement. it's there could be bad news and travel scares because pilots at easyjet have rejected a pay deal worth as much as £200,000. so could they be going on strike? >> joining us now is travel journalist simon calder, who can explain this to us in a little more detail . good explain this to us in a little more detail. good morning transylvania already. of course it's been everywhere. >> so what are what i have and i know what. >> let's just talk about this. so what are easyjet pilots so

unhappy about? what are they being asked to do ? being asked to do? >> okay. and great to hear. by the way , that andrew the impaler the way, that andrew the impaler is going to romania. fascinating. actually, the king has a real interest in the castles of romania. he's seen quite a lot of , worth checking quite a lot of, worth checking that out. and of course, you've got the painted bridges in, out towards the moldovan frontier. you're going to have a great time if you can get there. i can be pretty sure you're not flying on easyjet because they stay well away from romania. that's territory of ryanair and wizz air. but yes, there's a lot of concern about what's happening with easyjet pilots. we all absolutely , understandably get absolutely, understandably get really concerned at this time of yeah really concerned at this time of year. we're looking forward to our holidays and the last thing we want is strikes. we will get strikes, undoubtedly, but i am not too concerned about the easyjet pilots. i do have forward bookings with easyjet,

but what's effectively happened is that they've the pilots union balpa has been in talks with the, airline and they basically just said, right, we want a substantial pay increases. they can do that partly because there is generally a pilot shortage . is generally a pilot shortage. shortage. and as you probably will have seen , they could mean will have seen, they could mean that somebody who's been a captain with easyjet for ten years gets £200,000 a year at the end of this. anyway the pilots say that's not enough. they know that they're in a pretty strong position in terms of their, bargaining power, they also know that, the worst thing, even the bit of a tiny bit of talk about strikes is bad for airlines because it makes people think, oh , yeah, i was watching think, oh, yeah, i was watching gb news heard about a possible easyjet strike, even though and i must give you the statement from, easyjet where they say, absolutely, we are not expecting any , change. here we are. we are any, change. here we are. we are disappointed that the pilot pay deal was narrowly rejected. we

remain in constructive dialogue with balpa and no strike action is planned. now, i can say that, but other people are going to think, well, i'm not going to book with easyjet, then i'll book with easyjet, then i'll book with easyjet, then i'll book with british airways or wizz air or ryanair or whoever. so it's damaging just being talked about. the pilots know that it's all part of the pressure to, get a swift and generous settlement. >> i mean, we know the airlines had a tough time from 2020 onwards, but i'm just looking at easyjet's profits, which was for the year ending september 2023, and they had record profit before tax, with a with £455 million, this is yes, an easyjet holidays profits grew 221, delivering £122 million profit before tax. so maybe the pilots have got a point . have got a point. >> well, if you sum that up, absolutely brilliantly. yes. airlines were crushed during covid and now they are having

the time of their lives. partly actually that's because there aren't enough planes around now . aren't enough planes around now. there's no problem with easyjet planes, but some other airlines, including wizz air, there's an issue with the engines. the pratt and whitney engines, which means that some of their aircraft are going to be grounded this summer, boeing is having huge problems with its, supplying boeing 737 max aircraft because of the safety issues that we all know about. as a result of that, ryanair aren't getting enough planes. as aren't getting enough planes. as a result of that, there aren't enough seats to go around. and so we are all paying a fortune. so people like easyjet, people like british airways benefiting from that. the people who aren't benefiting. are you , me and benefiting. are you, me and andrew who are saying how much and paying hundreds of pounds. and of course, yes. to answer your question, the pilots are seeing how much they're being made saying, well, we've we've the reason they're making so much money is because we're very good at flying . of course, good at flying. of course, easyjet, the second safest airline in the world after ryanair in terms of the number of passengers flown without

fatality. so they've got a point and, they're going to be pressing that home. but if you want to worry about strikes , i want to worry about strikes, i probably say you can pretty much guarantee there will be more rail strikes this summer. and then french air traffic controllers aren't going anywhere, so watch out for those. >> oh, dear. okay brilliant. thank you. >> simon. always lovely to talk to you, simon. great to see you. simon. calder travel editor of the independent. >> up next, the prime minister says or thinks he can win over the farmers there in number 10 as we speak. so tractor outside with a bale of hay. does that sound a bit staged to you? >> a little bit staged. but anything that draws attention to the issue of the farmers we are very much on board with. we're going to be talking to two of them after this quick break with britain's newsroom on

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over the farmers. that he's ianed over the farmers. that he's invited to downing street for the second uk farm to fork summit today. >> he's. he's going to warn against an overreliance on food imports as just 55% of our vegetables and 17% of fruit bought in this country are grown here. >> so joining us now are farmers gareth wyn jones and kelly seton. good morning, both of you. good to see you again. now shouldn't you be at downing street ? kelly, first up. street? kelly, first up. >> oh, it's invitation only. unfortunately i didn't get one. >> is that because you've been critical, kelly? do you think of the of the government ? the of the government? >> probably. i saw somebody who had been invited yesterday, had posted on social media saying that they were very selective over who they were inviting, nfu had asked for this summit to take place every year, but, downing street and defra are in charge of who is invited . so, i charge of who is invited. so, i think that probably tells you what you need to know .

what you need to know. >> gareth, what's your take on it? you're one of the most famous farmers in this country next to jeremy clarkson. you should surely be there. >> i had 15 minutes with, our prime minister earlier this yean prime minister earlier this year, and i told him a few home truths. maybe that's why i don't get an invitation to these places , look, we've we've got to places, look, we've we've got to start backing british agriculture . we've got to start agriculture. we've got to start getting behind, you know, the no farmers, no food. people have got to wake up and start to think that they can't go any single day of their life without a farmer. and governments have got to be propping this up and starting to understand if they're not going to be supporting you know, our farming communities, they're not going to be there in the future to produce food. and especially with the spring we've had and the end of last winter , it's the end of last winter, it's been a very, very difficult time. so, you know, we need a farming food revolution in this country. let's build a better

britain on our bellies. let's get the next generation understanding how important the farmer is and let's get supermarkets giving us a fair price for what we're doing. we're working seven days a week to and we get to produce food, and we get nothing but grief from governments. you know , from the governments. you know, from the environmentalists saying that we're destroying nature . and we're destroying nature. and look, look where i'm standing. i know beautiful wales surrounded by trees and beautiful, wildlife i >> -- >> let's bring kelly in here. kelly, would it help? a very simple thing if you went to a supermarket. i was in my supermarket. i was in my supermarket the other day, and i thought, there's no labels here telling me where this broccoli is from or where these tomatoes are from. shouldn't they make a big thing? the supermarkets, which are your big biggest customer about british labelling, making the point by british. >> yeah, i mean they supposedly try they label a british food section. i think co—op have committed to that and is it? sainsbury's is the other supermarket that has committed to it. however, quite often you find under the big banner of

british produce is non—british produce and actually the biggest problem is that farmers aren't getting paid a fair price for their produce. we're very much run by the supermarket . so run by the supermarket. so today, no farmers, no food campaign are encouraging you to snub the supermarket and go to your local supplier and maybe a farm shop or wherever you can. unfortunately not everyone can afford to do that, but the supermarkets at the moment are playing the monopoly both ways, so the farmers aren't getting paid a fair price, but also the consumer is probably paying more to the supermarket, and that's where the profit is going, is in the supermarket pockets. farmers traditionally are price takers, not price makers . you wouldn't not price makers. you wouldn't ask a plumber to take a price. you would always they would give you the price that they are going to give you, supermarkets have very much , taken the have very much, taken the monopoly on that and put farmers in quite a difficult position. i

feel gareth shouldn't rishi sunak be getting all the bosses of the supermarkets in his house to have a conversation about what they're doing . what they're doing. >> it's all very well for him to say, you know, we can't over rely on food imports. well, do something about it then. >> yeah, totally. and you know, i agree with these labelling as well. you know, we've got the biggest supermarket in this country has got so many fake farms now they'll use, to sell their produce. and there's producers coming from every country in the world. and you know, if we don't step up and start to look at food security as the most important part of what we've got in, in this country, you know, if another war breaks out because we are sleepwalking into food shortages, there's no doubt in my mind this is going to happen sooner than later. and we're going to see, you know, price hikes in food going through the roof. and we're seeing it now in beef and lamb. and we've got to

start to address that. we've got to look at new technology, new innovations of how we can produce food, start to be more energy efficient. as farmers, you know, government should be putting money towards solar panels on farming sheds so they can milk them cows at a cheaper rate. so people can have it. you know, it's innovation, technology going forward to feed this nation in a sustainable, regenerative and environmentally friendly way. and if the supermarkets and the government aren't going to help with that, we can only ask the consumer and the customer to get out there and back. british agriculture, forget about government, forget about the supermarkets, look for about the supermarkets, look for a farm shop, look for a butcher, find a farmer. a farm is going to be your friend , and a farmer to be your friend, and a farmer is going to be feeding you once, twice or three times a day. and don't forget that, because we're here for you and we want to do that affordably as well. that's really important. there's people on the breadline, you know, the cost of living crisis. we want

to do it affordably . so we've to do it affordably. so we've got a lot of boxes to tick, but we're the people that can do it. but we have to have your support. kelly. the consumer and the customers, the kelly. >> how useful is the clarkson's farm series in terms of raising awareness of the sort of hurdles that you guys have to jump over the bureaucracy , the small the bureaucracy, the small minded local authorities that seem to just want to suffocate the farming spirit. is it is it good for you guys that program ? good for you guys that program? >> absolutely. i mean, my children have got a reminder so that they can watch all the episodes. probably on repeat, it's great for all generations from obviously not too young because of the swearing, but from all generations and all walks of life. everyone that you speak to will say, have you seen the latest clarkson's farm? whether that's our milk tanker dnven whether that's our milk tanker driver, whether that's our contractor, whether that's general public, we've got a canal that comes through the middle of our farm. so quite

often we have general public walking through and they will all say, have you seen clarkson's farm? i had no idea. you have to go through. >> and part of the thing these farmers objecting are farmers you're objecting to are zionist. this this zionist. a&e kelly, is this this determination all determination to make you all more friendly. more environmentally friendly. so force you to so they're going to force you to give some land and plant give up some land and plant trees . and they call it trees. and they call it rewilding. i think that's the buzz phrase, isn't it? and wildflowers, which, which is going to eat into your profits even more . even more. >> well, funnily enough, that's actually mostly in wales, although who knows what happens when the next government gets in, but a lot of farmers are facing the predicament now where they can make more money from they can make more money from the subsidies for rewilding, planting trees, and not actually farming. so when, you look at food security, you're massively reducing our food security by incentivising farmers not to farm, whether that be they're putting solar farms in or whether they are just using the

subsidies, because that's the only way they can make a living . only way they can make a living. >> well i'm interested gareth, how this all happened, how we got to this place because of course when the supermarkets first came along, presumably they were a gift to farmers because suddenly there were vast amounts of produce that you could grow and sell to these behemoths of commercial enterprise. how did the how did it then flip so that you felt like you were the victim of that system ? system? >> they've got a stranglehold on agriculture . yeah, that's the agriculture. yeah, that's the thing. and people forget it. you know, they're able to do two for the price of one. and if you think the supermarkets paying for the two for the price of one, you've got another thing coming. you know, they've got milk on the shelves, which is cheaper than water and cost of production. it's absolutely wrong what they've done and they forced and forced and forced them. forced that price down. and it's always the farmer, you know, they're making massive

profits. we're looking at their profits. we're looking at their profits every year. it's the same with these big companies. but it's the working people . and but it's the working people. and food's affordable because the farmers put in seven days a week, 365 days a year. so it can be affordable. but the average age of a farmer now is 65. and rising . now, how long can that rising. now, how long can that last? how long can that keep going? well, it's not going to last. and the next generation is not coming through. so we have to have a fair price for what we're producing. and i don't want to be subsidised. i don't want to be subsidised. i don't want money from the government for planting trees. i want a fair price for producing food . fair price for producing food. i've got plenty of trees and i plant trees when i want, i've got plenty of trees and i plant trees when i want , where i've got plenty of trees and i plant trees when i want, where i want, i, i plant hedgerows as well . you know this area, the well. you know this area, the carnaby and north wales and snowdonia. eryri is a fantastic place for wildlife , for tourism, place for wildlife, for tourism, for agriculture, for my, you know, culture, welsh language.

we need to protect the next generation here and governments in westminster and here in the assembly aren't doing it. in westminster and here in the assembly aren't doing it . we are assembly aren't doing it. we are like third class citizens. we are tottenham. we are never, ever looked up to, you know, people don't recognise a farmer. you know, they're always blaming a farmer. watch any mainstream television programme on the bbc or itv. they'll always be pointing the finger. you know, they're talking about polluting they're talking about polluting the rivers when they don't even ask the sewage companies how much poop they're pouring into it. it's always the farmer with the chickens or the pigs or the dairy . it the chickens or the pigs or the dairy. it needs to change, you know? things need to change. no farmers, no food. >> just very quickly, kelly, you've got young children. do you've got young children. do you hope that they'll carry on the farming tradition, or are you worried that you could be the last, it would be nice if they carried on, but if i'm honest, i'm not sure i want the life for them. it's a great

lifestyle for bringing children up, but is it a great lifestyle for farmers? there's a lot of benefits , but there's a lot of benefits, but there's a lot of stress, okay. kelly, cease and gareth wyn jones, great to see you. >> best of luck to you again . >> best of luck to you again. >> best of luck to you again. >> we wish you best of luck. >> we wish you best of luck. >> and it reminds me why i use my greengrocer. >> buy british every time . but >> buy british every time. but the trouble is you go into the supermarket and you won't have a choice. often we've got so used to having fruit, particularly out of season, that, you know, if you go well, the kids would like some strawberries with breakfast. >> you can't have them in december. >> you can have them if you buy them from morocco. or you can have your blueberries if you buy them from egypt. i don't want to do that, but i also want my kids to eat nutritious. >> but you can see why they weren't at that summit, because they might say uncomfortable truth for the prime minister and the agriculture secretary, who is the agriculture secretary. i can't even think, don't know at the moment. >> actually, listen, we're going to go back to the court of appeal this is the reaction to the judges, as you heard earlier, refusing to change the

sentence of the nottingham killer. here we go. >> this is disappointing but not unexpected. noted the nottingham attacks were entirely preventable . the nottinghamshire preventable. the nottinghamshire police failed to execute a warrant for many months . a warrant for many months. a flawed investigation, no toxic energy, overreliance on psychiatric report leicestershire police failed to arrest valdo calocane . this is arrest valdo calocane. this is a failure of two police forces , a failure of two police forces, a failure of two police forces, a failure of two police forces, a failure of the mental health trust along with nottinghamshire council, as well missed multiple opportunities to prevent the nottingham attacks and the murder of our children. and ian coates is what has led us here today. coates is what has led us here today . we will continue to today. we will continue to pursue agencies that failed us and hold them responsible for

the nottingham attacks, so that no other family is made to suffer like ours . we thank suffer like ours. we thank everyone for the outpouring of support for our brave and beautiful daughter, grace. thank you.thank beautiful daughter, grace. thank you. thank you . you. thank you. >> police. >> police. >> that's all i've been saying . >> that's all i've been saying. thank you, thank you sir. >> and quite interesting reaction. he's refusing to take questions too. >> yeah, because it's very distressing to tell you who that was. >> that was doctor sanjoy kumar. that's the father of grace o'malley. o'malley kumar , the o'malley. o'malley kumar, the beautiful young girl who lost her life in nottingham. of course, she lost her life fighting to protect her friend barnaby barnaby weber. and as the father said there, there was no toxicology report. he said it was a failure of two police services and he said it's an overreliance on psychiatric diagnosis. let's talk to our reporter, ray addison, who is outside the court. morning ray . outside the court. morning ray. >> yes. good morning to you both. well as we know, high

court judges reviewing the sentence of triple killer valdo calocane have ruled that there was no error of judgement in the trial judge's sentence and that it was not unduly lenient. now, that was the ruling of lady chief justice, baroness carr, lord justice eady and mrjustice garnham . now it followed a bid garnham. now it followed a bid by the attorney general, victoria prentice, to change what she believes is calocane unduly lenient sentence. of course, in january , the 32 year course, in january, the 32 year old was handed an indefinite hospital order under sections 37 and 41 of the mental health act for the manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility . of diminished responsibility. city of students barnaby weber and grace o'malley cumana. they were both 19. they were walking home from a night out in nottingham. also 65 year old school caretaker ian coates , who school caretaker ian coates, who was on his way to work as well.

all of this took place in the early hours of june the 13th last year. now calocane also stole ian coates's van and drove three other people as well. now the attorney general referred this sentence to the court of appeal this sentence to the court of appeal, arguing that calocane should be given something called a hybrid life sentence instead. now what that would mean if they'd agreed, if the justices had agreed, is that he would serve his sentence in the psychiatric hospital where he is until he is deemed to be fit, to then go and serve the remainder of the sentence in a normal prison. now, lawyers for the attorney general had argued that caloocan's extreme crimes warranted a sentence with an element of punishment. now, in explaining the decision of the justices , baroness carr said justices, baroness carr said that calocane had no previous convictions, had struggled with his mental health since 2019, and that all of the experts in

that original trial had agreed that original trial had agreed that at the time of the assaults, calocane had been in the grip of a severe psychiatric episode . baroness carr said as episode. baroness carr said as well that the court could not ignore that medical evidence, and that the judge in calocane trial was entitled to conclude that a penal element was therefore unnecessary . despite, therefore unnecessary. despite, she said, the high number of victims . and she did point out victims. and she did point out that the original judge and of course , these justices in the course, these justices in the review as well, concluded that it is very likely, extremely likely, that calocane will spend the rest of his life in prison now. calocane attended the ruling via video link from ashworth hospital. that's a high security psychiatric hospital close to liverpool. he remained silent throughout and in fact , silent throughout and in fact, he did not even speak to confirm his name , as we heard there, the his name, as we heard there, the parents of grace o'malley kumar ,

parents of grace o'malley kumar, the father of grace o'malley kumar, doctor sanjoy kumar, spoke after the ruling. he said it was disappointing but not unexpected , and he said that the unexpected, and he said that the attacks in nottingham that night , that morning were entirely preventable and that it was a failure of two police forces and of the mental health trust as well. there. he said that police and mental health had missed multiple opportunities and that he intends the family intends to pursue, to continue to pursue agencies that they believe have failed them. now emma webber, as well, the mother of barnaby webber, has issued a statement today saying today's ruling comes as no surprise . it proves comes as no surprise. it proves how utterly flawed and under—resourced the criminal justice system in the uk is. it also illustrates the need for urgent reforms in the uk. homicide law, is there anything else the family can do? is that the legal recourse on the sentence? close down now ? sentence? close down now? >> well, with that review, it would appear that we have come

to a. obviously, the father they're pointing out of grace o'malley kumar pointing out that they are going to continue to pursue the agencies. and that seems to be the direction that the family certainly of grace o'malley kumar want to go, for nottinghamshire police , nottinghamshire police, leicestershire police as well, targeting them specifically for any failings that that they feel that they have made. also the local mental health trust to, to try and prevent, certainly try and prevent for the future any further instances where attacks like this could have been prevented . prevented. >> all right. that's ray addison outside the high court. i feel desperate for the family to, you know, they may feel really let down that the system, yet again, is on the side of the killer. oh, it's miserable, isn't it? >> a lot of you getting in touch at home, just expressing your despair. really, michael, these judges are out of touch with the real world, terry says whether this man is mentally ill or not,

three people are dead. three families grieving for their lost lives , even a mentally ill lives, even a mentally ill person capable of such murder is not fit to walk . not fit to walk. >> nasty weather. no toxicology tests. >> i mean, was he. was he on an illegal drug? >> well, this is what this is. >> well, this is what this is. >> what was he off high on? cocaine >> you see, this is the thing the judge said there. there was no evidence of any substance abuse. but then the father has come out and said they didn't take a toxicology report. >> so because they decided he was having a psychotic episode. >> but that's the kind of failure of the policing and the investigation, which is the sort of thing that would leave you awake at night as a bereaved parent. >> and the hybrid life sentence would have meant when he's judged to have got a bit better in this hospital, which would be a lot cushier than a prison. of course he could spend it. he could. his sentence in a prison. but and they say it's likely he'll stay in prison likely isn't the same as a whole life sentence. yeah. and i think it's i think it's shameful. >> let's go back to this olympic story now because of course, a

lot of people are getting very excited about it, that it will help heart attacks, straight strokes and other weight associated conditions. but gp, a medical writer at renee hoenderkamp who you'll know from this channel, is with us now. and renee, you don't quite share this enthusiasm, do you? what is the data actually telling us? >> yeah, i mean, we must remember first of all that this is actually first published in november 23rd and is a rehash of the data today and hasn't yet been published. it's been presented at a conference. the data has been funded by novo nordisk, who makes the drug and all of the researchers are also funded by it. and lots of the doctors who are out today saying it's wonderful are also funded by novo. so we mustn't forget that now, this went over three years and four months. it was 17,000 people. it was an rct, which is gold standard and it had an end point of death by heart , a stroke, heart attack or heart, a stroke, heart attack or stroke, or a non—fatal heart attack or stroke. and it found that in the treatment arm , 6.5% that in the treatment arm, 6.5% of people, had heart the

endpoint heart attack or stroke. and in the placebo arm only. so 8.2 so this is not a fifth reduction. that in itself is not true . it's actually about a 1% true. it's actually about a 1% reduction. when you then realise that 16.16, 6% of the people in the treatment arm withdrew from the treatment arm withdrew from the trial because the side effects and adverse events and 8% in the placebo. you have to ask yourself , are the people ask yourself, are the people that would have gone on to have heart attacks or strokes actually the people that withdrew because they had more side effects? so this is a completely flawed study. so then you ask the authors, can we look at your data? and they said, no . at your data? and they said, no. so it's paid for by the drug company. you're not allowed to look at the data. it's not a fifth reduction. and there were a lot of people who couldn't continue the trial. but what we've got here, bev, once again, is on every single front page of a newspaper today. people are being told that they're going to if they take this drug for life,

they won't have heart attacks even if they don't have diabetes. and there is a collusion between big pharma and media to sell this to the public, who will run forward to their gp and ask for the drug. >> well, just renee it's very interesting that this study is funded by who exactly ? funded by who exactly? >> by novo nordics who make semaglutide . semaglutide. >> who make ozempic. >> who make ozempic. >> yeah, well, they make semaglutide, which was actually the drug that was under campari's here. and that is actually the ingredient of ozempic and wegovy and some others that are coming. >> so semaglutide is the active ingredient effectively in this drug. and just to explain, because we haven't said this, what does it do to help you lose weight . what is the mechanism of action. >> so interferes with pathways in your brain that actually tell you when you're full or not. so people taking it no longer feel so hungry so they eat less. the problem with that , bev, is at problem with that, bev, is at the moment you stop taking it, you feel hungry again and you put the weight on. so most

doctors who are out there championing this accept that it is a drug that you will have to stay on for life. >> a lot of people don't overeat because they're hungry, though. they overeat for all sorts of emotional reasons. comfort eating. sometimes just boredom. doesit eating. sometimes just boredom. does it help that as well? do you actually feel full that you can't eat anymore? >> do you feel full because it slows down your gastric emptying so you're not going to the loo quite so much? although most people will get diarrhoea and vomiting when they start taking it, but ultimately the idea is, is that you feel fuller and you're not hungry. and that says to us that actually when you eat less food, you lose weight. >> but but , less food, you lose weight. >> but but, but renee, of course, if you take the drug and it does cut people's obesity levels, that long term is better for the nhs when you consider what what obesity is now costing the nhs, isn't it the worst, the most expensive treatment they have to treat? it's worse than cigarette smoking now. i think it is.

>> it's about 19 billion a year, andrew. however, we don't really know that yet because there's no long term data on this particular drug and there are some pretty horrible side effects. so about 1 in 100 people will get pancreatitis. now, when you get pancreatitis, your risk of pancreatic cancer is increased for about three years after that event . years after that event. pancreatic cancer is very expensive to the nhs, but also kills you, kills you very quickly because it's very silent . a lot of people get hair loss. there's now reports of psychosis , so it's affecting suicidality and mood , there are people that and mood, there are people that are losing so much weight, they're losing their muscle mass. there's gastrointestinal effects there are so many side effects there are so many side effects that we just don't know how those will play out in the long term. and let's not forget every single person on this trial over the age of 45 was already obese or overweight . if already obese or overweight. if they had actually not got to that point , they wouldn't have that point, they wouldn't have any of these things that the nhs is now dealing with. and when you look at the report that was

out yesterday about childbirth trauma, we are missing 2500 midwives in this country. as a result, babies are dying, women are suffering intolerable trauma in their what should be the happiest moment of their life? should we be spending our money in something which in the nhs on something which can controlled by can be controlled by responsibility and actions that you take in life, or should we be spending it on making childbirth safer for women? for example ? example? >> yeah. well, it's interesting, isn't it? because when this olympic story first broke, i remember being on the telly and saying , we've just given up now saying, we've just given up now on helping people to lose weight or encouraging people to take personal responsibility. and yet, what, six months later, we're not having that conversation anymore. we very quickly get conditioned, don't we? unless we stop and go. hang on a minute. this drug might be the silver bullet that we've all been looking for. you can just lose all the weight because people do struggle and it is complicated and i do sympathise. but i do two bit, i do and i agree with you and we are in an

obesogenic society. >> but what we've got here is we need to put this money into and government policy into stopping almost 80% of a lot of people's diet being ultra processed food, because ultra processed food is making people fat. yeah. big food off from benefiting from that. and then big pharma are stepping in to make them not fat. we need to actually get people back to understanding where food comes from, understanding how to cook it, understanding how to cook it, understanding what happens when you put lots of additives in and why that is no good for them. we need to get back to educating people about self—help and the bodyis people about self—help and the body is a wonderful thing if you look after it. yeah. >> renee thank you so much. what a fabulous dose of balance. >> yeah, absolutely, absolutely. and fascinating that the drug company behind the major ingredient is epic, of course, funded the study most drugs out there are funded. >> their studies are funded by the drug companies who want to find a solution , which is going find a solution, which is going to make them a huge amount of profits. so i'm getting to the

point now when you just think the state is not going to look after you. the nhs is not really working. if you want to be fit and healthy, you've just got to take responsible, take responsibility. >> i know nobody else is going to do your steps, do some press ups, drink your water, eat an apple, get out and about and just, you know, have no more digestive biscuits for you . digestive biscuits for you. >> we do like a digestive biscuit in the morning and i know it's not easy. it's difficult, but nobody else is going to do it for you. that's kind of all we've got to remember. not even an injection. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> coming up, this is a really interesting story. and i think it's got people in the trade legs. could harry and meghan's archewell foundation, that's their charity in america, be suspended over tax issues? >> yeah, we'll tell

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we want to go to first, fellas, what about rishi sunak saying it's better the devil you know. is that all he's got? covid vote for me. i'm better because you know me well , for me. i'm better because you know me well, i'd like to hope there's more to come from the prime minister. >> and i'm sure there is more to come from the prime minister in the coming months. as we lead up to a general election. but i think what he was trying to do yesterday is move on from the local elections and really start setting out the motivation or reason for people to vote conservative at the next election , which is really what election, which is really what we're sort of missing and was felt missing in the local elections. i think he's got to look at where this this conversation was about highlighting the weaknesses of laboun highlighting the weaknesses of labour. and that's always been a case where the conservatives the party that look to the voters look to for defence of the realm, for supporting our armed forces , for making sure that we forces, for making sure that we have strength in that area, considering all the global challenges that we see at the moment. he's saying he, the

conservatives, should be trusted on that. but i think this is going to be a start of a number of these set piece conversations that you'll see from probably him as the conservative party leader and other cabinet members setting out their stall as we run up to the election. quite a dull speech. >> well, what i'm afraid it was. >> well, what i'm afraid it was. >> i read them, i've read the sketch of it. and the legend thatis sketch of it. and the legend that is quentin letts , and he that is quentin letts, and he was sort of highlighting bluebells and other things flying around because he probably was distracted. but it's it was so long, it witter on for 40 minutes. yes, yes. >> the room after 15. >> the room after 15. >> well, it's a good point, you know, leave them wanting more . know, leave them wanting more. andrew. yeah. don't you think? >> i mean, they're all as bad. these leaders. >> yes, they are, but i mean, but this particular one, it was just sort of a word salad which was stating the obvious. yeah. so it's kind of, you know, there are big bad wolves out there. i'm the woodcutter who will come and saved you as the kind of message. and then the attacks on laboun message. and then the attacks on labour, i mean, he seems to have he seems to think that defence is a good one to attack labour

on, the point really is that he's talking about spending 2.5% for nato so well on our defence spending. yeah, up to, to fund nato. but what we really need is a proper strategic defence review . if what he was saying review. if what he was saying yesterday that the threats are changing , that the threat from changing, that the threat from russia, china, north korea, iran , they're changed threats. what we need to look at is not spending just more money, but what you spend it on. yeah. and it's that kind of thing that seems to be lacking. he's talking about oh labour won't spend spend the extra money. well it's not what they've said. >> and we're getting a big speech later this morning from grant shapps, the defence secretary. he's talking about six new warships. yeah. >> i mean, if that is what we need to deal with the current threat, that's fine. but there's a whole host of things. trident, for instance, each we've got four trident submarines, each one with a firepower of eight hiroshimas. now, the question now is , is that still a now is, is that still a practical way of defending this

country, given where we are, should we be spending money on more conventional forces, for instance, is that the threat we're going to get from russia? >> but i think the issue here is and i think you're going to hear more from the conservatives about this, because there is a they perceive a weakness for labour here because we know that keir starmer has put this veneer of a more centrist labour feel onto his party. but beneath that, there are still a lot of people who are there and supporters of jeremy corbyn, as was keir starmer. and i think the conservative strategists will see this as a weakness , will see this as a weakness, particularly where corbyn's labour was very anti—nato anti defence spending. how does that play defence spending. how does that play out and any commitments that labour are saying they will make to spending in defence are being positioned in advance of a strategic review. they want to do a review so there are no commitments. they will do a review. i mean i think that's where the public should be concerned. >> keir starmer rejected corbynism totally. i mean, he's been quite clear about that.

secondly, the attacks on corbyn are a misrepresentation of what he said. it goes back to things he said. it goes back to things he said. it goes back to things he said three years before he became leader and what he was talking about was, where rishi sunak said all he wanted, wanted to scrap the army, didn't want us in nato. what? actually, corbyn said was that he'd like to see a world that was was peaceful, where you didn't need an army. we all we all night. yeah. >> but i think this he's a peacenik. we're not in that world right now. this is the exact point the prime minister was making yesterday. the world that we know, it has become a much more dangerous place. >> kaufman thing was a wish list. it wasn't a call for unilateral disarmament. and there's no question that keir starmer would do that either. the question really is how best to defend britain in the modern world where things are changing, what this debate is demonstrating to us is that we are going to hear a lot more about this. >> this will be clear blue water between the tories and labour. will it change around defence at the election? i think it will. i think it will as we see more challenges on the global stage. the party that says and is clear

about their position on defence, the spending on defence and how they want to deal with the challenges and threats that our nafion challenges and threats that our nation faces. i think the electorate will be taking that more seriously. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> can we talk about this terrifying vote in parliament last night, which basically has now put through that? if mp if an mp is arrested on suspicion of violent or sexual offence, they would be excluded from attending parliament. nigel, that just opens the way for so many people to bring down mps maliciously, relatively well, i mean, certainly they can make allegations about mps, but the question really is at what point do you suspend the mp from parliament this vote went through just on on one vote, which which was to say on the point of arrest, not on the point of arrest, not on the point of arrest, not on the point of charge . point of charge. >> right. well, no, that's what would happen in the wider world that if you were accused of a serious allegation in the workplace, you would be suspended . and so what you're

suspended. and so what you're saying here is it doesn't mean the mp can't represent their constituents. they can carry on doing that. what they can't do is come into the precincts of parliament. they can have a vote, they can get a proxy vote to go and do it. and also what this has done is codified what was going on anyway. but the trouble was some mps were being were being told by their whips, stay away from parliament while this allegation is being investigated. >> andrew rosindell it was an mp two years he had. >> there is a classic case and he and was totally innocent. no charges and totally innocent. >> he could not do his job properly because you know, a lot of business is conducted in. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> but these ministers, you see there's a good example there that he was treated differently from other mps because the whips told stay away. told him to stay away. >> now they all have to stay >> but now they all have to stay away. yes they would. in the event that you have an allegation of violence or sex abuse , they would be suspended. abuse, they would be suspended. but my point simply is that means everybody, everybody is treated the same, which they're not at the moment. >> but if there are several hundred complaints against mps,

you could literally have an empty house of commons. but corbyn make this make sense to me. i don't understand why mps have voted for this. >> i think you apply to you as a member of parliament because you're a member of the house. >> yes, and i think there is the challenge between obviously we want to keep people safe and take these things seriously. but as we talk, you know, the number of allegations where there and obviously when the time this takes as well. but you know it's not just that people would be not just that people would be not allowed to do what they are trying to do, but the amount of time these investigations take, as with andrew rosindell and then eventually we working out that there's nothing behind it. >> the thing is, as well, you are commonly arrested. if it's an allegation of sexual assault, because that means the police can then look at your tech, your documents, sorry, your your the documents, sorry, your your the documents, you or disclosure your disclosure. but they can't look at your technological devices unless they arrest you. so if somebody makes an allegation , you are arrested so allegation, you are arrested so that the police then have powers to look at your technology. >> yeah, but i mean, but the police don't go out there and just arrest anybody. so they have to have some kind of

reasonable evidence before they do the arrest. so yeah, that's what i'm saying. >> the bar for sexual offences is so very low because that's why the police will want to look at what people have on their technology. >> yes. but i mean, the problem is that, when it comes to rape, also the conviction rate is very low that an awful lot of people get off. so we've changed it slightly. so there's a presumption that you believe the victim and i do think that's right. and also complainant not victim complainant i'm sorry. yes you're absolutely right. >> but you see what you did there. >> and this is the problem. we automatically say victim because we now assume it's complainant because we don't know they're a victim until until after conviction. >> you're absolutely right. >> you're absolutely right. >> you're absolutely right. >> you should be scared today i well i think you know it's challenging but it's a broader issue in society as well. >> i think where we're looking at and we're looking to these guys to set the example of innocent till proven guilty just on the polar opposite. and the balance is shifting the other way. and i think it has been moving the other way for quite some time. and we do have to be

careful about where. but why is charge any better? >> i mean, you're still innocent even if you're charged. you're only you're only found guilty if you are convicted. >> i think what we found, though, nigel, is that as charged, the question of innocence in the view of public opinion becomes guilty. yeah. and i think that that is also challenging for people, but also if an mp is suspended on the point of being arrested, it will be out there in the public domain immediately. >> yes. >> yes. >> that's right. and is that fair? >> yes, i think it is because it would everybody the would apply to everybody at the moment. out in moment. some names come out in the domain. andrew the public domain. andrew rosindell, mentioned rosindell, as you've mentioned before, name was didn't come before, his name was didn't come into the public domain until he put it there . and that was some put it there. and that was some time after he'd been suspended. >> that didn't come out. i was amazed. well, well, in fact, that the all over the internet there was nigel. >> it was. but as far as the as far as the mainstream press was concerned, there was an agreement that you would not put his name out there. but some people have had their name out there immediately, some haven't. this is my point. you actually, it means it's fair to everybody,

right ? right? >> i think it's i think it's appalling. >> well, i think it's quite an indication of it passed with one vote with the labour defector natalie elphicke voted interestingly. >> i wonder if she'd have voted for that a week ago. >> would she voted for it a week ago? and when her own husband was convicted of sexual assault, an mp against three women, she rubbished his victims. and yet yesterday she was voting to have mps barred from the proceedings. but this jess phillips says jess phillips is hard to make sense. >> mp jess phillips has led the charge on this and she said, you know , it gives a message to know, it gives a message to victims that we won't act unless people are charged, which happensin people are charged, which happens in less than 1% of cases to do something about that. jess phillips like, do something about the terrible conviction rate when it comes to sexual offences . who knows, maybe when offences. who knows, maybe when they're in government they will, by the sounds of this, just going to lock up anybody that gets an accusation sent their way. very briefly, we're going to go to the news. but do you think the meghan markle's charity is in trouble?

>> kolvir it looks like there's something yeah, something about a check lost in the post. >> but i was more interested in when is the royal tour not a royal tour? >> oh, i know we don't have time when you have an invitation to go. >> i think it was. >> i think it was. >> it was a presidential tour. >> it was a presidential tour. >> it was a presidential tour. >> it really was a political campaign. >> yeah. so the archewell foundation is in all sorts of trouble in america because they haven't basically done their accounting. >> they can't raise money or spend money. so that's the end of that. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we're going to we're going to deal with that tomorrow morning, aren't we. right thank you nigel as well. thank you both. right. sam francis is here with the news. >> very good morning to you. it's 1131. a recap of the headunes it's 1131. a recap of the headlines this morning. the court of appeal has refused to change the sentence of a man who killed three people in nottingham last year. valdo calocane was convicted of killing barnaby webber, grace o'malley kumar and ian coates and for the attempted murder of three others. lawyers had argued caloocan's indefinite hospital order as a result of his paranoid schizophrenia was, they said, unduly lenient. but

delivering the decision earlier this morning, baroness carr said there was no error made when the original sentence was delivered. the foreign secretary has summoned the chinese ambassador after three men were charged for allegedly assisting to address farmers this afternoon . farmers this afternoon. rishi sunak will say britain must. the rate of unemployment is at its

highest level for nearly a year, while wage growth is unchanged at 6. there were 26,000 fewer job vacancies in the three months to april, while the number of people in work dropped by 85,000. the chancellor, jeremy hunt , struck an jeremy hunt, struck an optimistic tone this morning, saying that wages are outstripped inflation. but it could be an unhelpful sign for those hoping for a cut in interest rates . that's the interest rates. that's the latest from the newsroom. another update at midday. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts . and. .com/ alerts. and. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> and let's take a look at the markets this morning. the pound will buy you $1.2549 and ,1.1627. the price of gold is

£1,870.06 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 8420 points. >> cheers. britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report up at noon. >> they're here. good afternoon, britain. >> tom and emily, what are you doing? we're here. >> we're here, we're here. but we'll also be here from 12 till three, at 130 today, keir starmer is having a bit of a showdown with union bosses. yeah, this is this is all about, some accusations that the labour party is undoing what they called their new deal for working people. all sorts of regulations on businesses to meet. >> we're going to happen within 100 days, tom. wasn't it? well, originally, originally, it was all going to happen within100 days. >> and this was going to include the rights for no one to email you after 5:00. and all these sorts of things that are clearly sorts of things that are clearly so very vital for the health and safety of people across the country. well, apparently they've realised quite how silly some of these things were and now rowing back. but these were

pledges that were made to the unions in return for their backing. and so the unions are very, very unhappy. so there could be a bit of a showdown this afternoon. yes it could be. >> it'll be a bit of fisticuffs. >> it'll be a bit of fisticuffs. >> yeah, i doubt it. >> yeah, i doubt it. >> it could get a bit angry. >> it could get a bit angry. >> remember who. remember who pays the labour party's bills a lot of these union bosses are quite aggressive people. >> they won't take too much lying down, will they? >> a blow for angela rayner because this is her package of workers. >> i was there in liverpool, last year when she was sort of promising all of this and announced it and said, look, this is the deal. we do this for you and you get out there and you and you get out there and you knock on the doors. for us, it's the quid pro quo of union support, but it seems that there's been some jiggery pokery behind the scenes, although perhaps we're overstating it because the one crucial element of this that perhaps is the most pernicious for ordinary working people, that still remains, which is repealing all of the new democratic reforms that were made to strike law. so the coalition came in, and in 2015, this was strengthened that you needed an absolute majority of union members to vote for a

strike. the new deal for working people , labour's new plan would people, labour's new plan would repeal that. so you didn't need a majority of union members to vote for a strike, so strikes could go forward with a minority of people voting for them. >> outrageous , yes. but it's >> outrageous, yes. but it's very interesting because a lot of people on the left of the party are going to be very angry if it is seen to be watered down too much, including the union bosses, of course. but what do you make of this one as well? mps arrested. we're talking but not charged or convicted. banned from parliament. i think this is quite worrying because someone could make an accusation so that an mp is booted out of parliament, and mps, more than most, are susceptible to those sorts of malicious allegations. >> we're going to have a debate on it to wrap it up. >> emily and tom will be here from midday until three. don't go anywhere, though. quick break. this is

gb news. good morning. 1139. let's cross live now to the c power

conference in central london, where defence secretary grant shappsis where defence secretary grant shapps is speaking. goodbye, curtis. >> and when i met with the ship's company aboard hms diamond in the red sea in january, i was able to thank them for their commitment, january, i was able to thank them for their commitment , their them for their commitment, their courage and their professionalism and for everything that they're doing to protect freedom of navigation and therefore prices and shops at home. and speaking to them, i reflected on the absolutely essential role of our royal navy in our national security and the world order, and in our broader way of life . now, the situation way of life. now, the situation that unfolded in the red and in the black sea has challenged some of our long held assumptions, but it's also confirmed the path that we're taking to modernise our royal navy and know that that is the right thing to do. and today i want to explore both sides of that same coin. now not long

ago, big states with big navies dominated maritime security. however, with almost 30% of russia's black sea fleet either damaged or destroyed and the rest carrying out of reach of ukraine's ghost fleets of missiles and drones, and with the houthis primarily using inexpensive drones to place a choke hold on global trade worth around $1 trillion a day, it is clear , very clear, that we are clear, very clear, that we are operating in a new military age. and so the question we must ask ourselves is how do we ensure we don't find ourselves on the back foot in any future naval conflict, just as russia has in the black sea? but also, how do we retain freedom of navigation when under attack by those hell bent on holding global shipping lanes hostage ? well, part of the lanes hostage? well, part of the answer resides in recent

decisions made by the government to help overcome these challenges , and particular our challenges, and particular our move to a quicker, much more agile pan defence procurement model and our decision to ring fence at least 5% of our defence budget for r&d over the next few years. these steps will help to deliver the technological edge we need in the years ahead , such we need in the years ahead, such as the dragonfire laser, which we've said will now be delivered five years ahead of schedule in 2027, helping us preserve our naval strength and capability not just in times of peace , but not just in times of peace, but also in times of tension and times of war. now, of course , times of war. now, of course, chief among our capabilities is our continuous at sea nuclear deterrent. now in its 55th year of unceasing operation, making the royal navy the cornerstone of our national defences and of our national security , we to

our national security, we to protect that legacy, we're investing up to £41 billion in our next generation dreadnought fleet and making good progress with our uk nuclear replacement warheads . and thanks to maddie, warheads. and thanks to maddie, meanwhile, our astute class of conventionally armed, nuclear powered hunter killer submarines continue to roll off the production lines with five now complete and able to hit threats on land with tomahawk cruise missiles and threats below water with the spearfish torpedoes . i with the spearfish torpedoes. i had the pleasure to tour hms astute in scotland last thursday and heard about how the best in class weapons capability will be used, but last month i was also or in march i was also in australia. seeing how we're making significant progress in our partnership with the next generation attack submarine ssn aukus, and it's great to have our friends here from australia

today, all of which brings me to the second lesson from events in the second lesson from events in the red and the black seas, the importance of alliances with like minded partners, and in terms of naval alliances, i believe we're more integrated with a wider range of global partners than ever before in europe. >> grant shapps of defence secretary making what's been billed as a major speech. we understand he's going to announce money for six new warships. i don't think he'll be around as defence secretary when those warships are work starts on them. why do they not just get to the point? oh they love the sound of their own voices, don't they? on a preamble goes on and on. >> well, let's go live to our home and security editor, mark white. now, mark. >> he is coming there. >> he is coming there. >> he is to you. yes. as far as grant shapps is concerned , he grant shapps is concerned, he does believe that we are entering a golden era of ship building for the navy. and it's true that there are 28 ships

either currently being built or being planned to be built over the coming years, but that doesn't really , detract from the doesn't really, detract from the very serious situation that the royal navy is in. it's suffering a recruitment crisis . it's had a recruitment crisis. it's had decades of being hollowed out by successive governments. whatever the current spending commitments might be. and that will take a long time to sort that. and just today, as grant shapps is announcing that there will be six new assault ships, effectively for the royal navy, for the marines , they were for the marines, they were planned long ago. so he's confirming that they will indeed go ahead. they are announcing that two of the workhorses of the royal navy, the type 23 frigates, another two of them are being retired. and that's going to leave a capability gap in terms of the frigates that we have well below nine, they're supposed to be at 13 and it will

be some years yet before the new batch of frigates comes into being. so there are some serious questions still for the royal navy, despite the good news today. >> thank you. mark. mark white, there as grant shapps continues to talk on and on and on. >> we should, we should we should have a bet. how many minutes do you think it will be? i think it will be 42 minutes of speech. prime minister yesterday was 45 and we didn't take all of it. >> no good, right? still to come. >> he might still be talking. shall we buy smartphones for the under 16 teens? >> is there any harm in them for kids? well, tory mp miriam cates will

gb news. oh, so is social media and mobile phones in general. destroying a generation? >> well, the tory mp miriam cates certainly thinks so. and she's led a debate this morning in parliament to discuss the

impact of smartphones on children . children. >> before that, let's let's talk about the mps parliamentary bound that was voted on last night , names bound that was voted on last night, names with us now i think now i think isn't she sorry, miriam, yeah. let's start on the debate this morning . we might debate this morning. we might ask you in a moment about that vote last night as well. what happenedin vote last night as well. what happened in the debate? what were the main points that were raised, well good morning. >> it was a very well attended debate, some very compelling contributions for a whole wide range of mp. but i think the main point of it is that smartphones and social media are causing irreparable damage to childhood. whatever measure you look at, whether it's increase in suicide, self—harm , rise in in suicide, self—harm, rise in anxiety and depression, children feeling that their lives are lonely or or not worth living. all these things have rocketed since smartphones and social media became widely adopted by children from kind of 2014 onwards, and it hasn't just happenedin onwards, and it hasn't just happened in the uk, it has happened in the uk, it has happened around the world, and we're now seeing the impact in this, in children's mental health, in educational attainment, in all sorts of ways

and younger and younger, with even small children now having their development held back by being glued to screens rather than experiencing the physical world as our brains are designed to be. and so i think there's growing consensus that more needs to be done by the government. certainly, if social media and smartphones were a drug , they would absolutely be drug, they would absolutely be withdrawn from the market. they've never been shown to be safe to children. they were never designed for children. and yet somehow we're allowing these enormous tech companies constant access into our children's lives through the digital world. so there was a lot of consensus from mps that much more needs to be done. >> there are a lot of senior male mps, if i can put it like that, and not enough young mother mps who really know how bad this problem is, how are you going to overcome that? perhaps you might describe it as an education gap , well, there were education gap, well, there were a lot of male mps there, actually, and i think, i think the main dividing line is the difference between those who have children, particularly teenagers and those who don't . teenagers and those who don't. and i think for people who don't have teenagers or whose teenagers are now grown up and

perhaps my age, they just didn't experience the addiction and the problems associated with the virtual world. and i think, you know, it's very difficult for us to imagine living in a world where our children walk down the streets and they could be accosted by thousands of people demanding intimate photos or telling them to end their own lives. but this is what's happening online. but if you're in your 50s and 60s, if you don't engage in those apps, it's quite hard to believe that this is real. but it is real and it's damaging our children. and just like we wouldn't let children buy tobacco or drive a car, we shouldn't be letting them have unfettered access to a product that really is destroying their childhood. >> so, miriam, do you have a solution? would you have an age limit ? limit? >> yes. i think there's a wide range of solutions. i propose seven things that the government could do this morning. firstly we need to raise the age of social media from 13 to 16. we need to make sure that age verification works. so you can't just tick a box and say you're 16, but actually you're 12. i think there's a lot more that the tech companies need to do . the tech companies need to do. we need to get a grip on internet pornography because thatis internet pornography because that is really harming

particularly young boys, but also having an effect on young girls. there's a wide range of things that the government could do, but i think if we think back to covid, the government passed a huge piece of legislation in just 24 hours. so how can anybody say that we can't do something in the last six months of parliament that will seriously rescue our children? >> quite. we've got to ask you about the vote last night. you voted against this decision to have mps suspended purely on the arrest for certain offences. why did you vote against it, because i think in this country we have a criminal justice system. that criminal justice system should apply criminal justice system should apply to mps as it does to everybody else. and being arrested is not being found guilty, being charged is still not being found guilty. but i think there are more arguments for safety when somebody is charged with an offence. but i think we have to recognise that parliament is not an ordinary workplace. there are only 650 mps and we don't represent ourselves, we represent our constituents. and if an mp is banned from the premises, that's 100,000 people who are not being

represented. and also it's a very high profile job. and of course, that invites vexatious complaints . and if mps can be complaints. and if mps can be banned from parliament for being arrested , then it's going to arrested, then it's going to lead to an increase in vexatious complaints. so of course, mps are never popular when they speak up for their own rights and their own privileges. but we are. we should be speaking up for the rights of mps and their constituents in ten, 20, 30 years time. and we should be taking decisions that will encourage good people to come into parliament and want to be into parliament and want to be in parliament. and i'm afraid last night we did the opposite, okay. >> conservative mp miriam cates made that woman prime minister that's it. >> she made that case brilliantly, didn't she? >> she she is brilliant, that's it from us for this morning. up next, emily and tom, they are right there waiting for you. we'll see you tomorrow morning at 930. >> see you tomorrow. >> see you tomorrow. >> yes. a showdown between keir starmer, the labour leader, and the trade union chiefs, who will come out on top. this is all to do with workers rights. >> plus much more reaction to the astonishing verdict in the dodi calocane case. this is a man who killed three but is not

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gb news. >> good afternoon. britain it's 12:00 on tuesday, the 14th of may. >> a man who stabbed three people to death in nottingham will not be sent to jail. valdo calocane will spend his life in a high security hospital , a a high security hospital, a sentence a judge ruled today as not unduly lenient. we'll hear from the victims of other families of the victims , and a families of the victims, and a golden era of british shipbuilding has been promised by the government. >> with 28 new ships and submarines built for the royal navy here in the uk. but a former navy chief has told gb news they might not be fit for purpose. >> and mps arrested for sex offences now face a parliamentary ban. even before they're charged. could this lead to false allegations as