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gb news. >> at 9 pm, i'm patrick christys tonight. >> homes for hamas should be able to put in place things through our immigration system. you know, the gazans people are highly, highly skilled . highly, highly skilled. >> no, to guards and refugees in britain. and we want to move to uk without a job offer . yeah. uk without a job offer. yeah. the massive student immigration racket continues. >> plus what they define as a nigerian woman is brave, resilient, courageous, power. >> paul burrell on harry and meghan's charity being shut down. >> also, it's a little campaign today to say that the government should not sign us up to the pandemic treaty. i think it's a very bad idea . very bad idea. >> nigel is live on this show as
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our health minister hits back at his w.h.o. comments and a woman punches a huge crocodile in the face to save her sister. and what is going on with tyson fury's dad, who .7 oh my panellist fury's dad, who.7 oh my panellist commentator esther krakue, tory mp andrew rosindell and author amy nicole turner. and is this king charles in hell. get ready britain here we go. welcome to the university of illegal immigrants. next. >> patrick. thank you and good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. a major manhunt is underway in france after two
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prison guards were shot dead and three others seriously injured dunng three others seriously injured during an ambush on a prison convoy. vehicles were rammed at tollbooths on a motorway at anchorvale in the northwest of the country . anchorvale in the northwest of the country. images on social media showed at least two men in balaclavas carrying rifles near an suv that was in flames. the car appeared to have been rammed into the front of the prison van. local media is naming the suspect as mohammed amro, who's 30 years old, reportedly ties has ties to powerful gangs in the city of marseille. a home office minister says the good friday agreement should not be read so creatively as to cover migration issues. it's after a judge at belfast's high court ruled that parts of the government's illegal migration act should not be applied in northern ireland. responding to an urgent question from the dup, mp tom pursglove said the government intends to appeal against the court's judgement and would not be deterred from its rwanda plan . a new report
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its rwanda plan. a new report says there's no widespread evidence of post—study visa for international students is being abused. the government's migration advisers say the visa attracted students to the uk and should remain, adding the graduate visa route is not undermining the integrity and the quality of the higher education system , the education system, the committee's report says if it were scrapped, universities would lose income from international students fees and have to cut courses. the government has said it's considering the findings and would respond in due course. it introduced a tougher rules for international students this yean international students this year, which it said aimed to help slash migration . the prime help slash migration. the prime minister is calling on shoppers to back british produce as he hosts the second farm to fork summit at downing street. labour says the conservatives have dnven says the conservatives have driven farmers to breaking point and have pledged a new deal they say will put money back into their pockets. rishi sunak told members of the food industry that britain must reduce its
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reliance on fruit and vegetables from overseas. >> we are going to stick to our plan supporting you to keep creating great jobs across the united kingdom and keep making the food that we know and love so dearly , and specifically to so dearly, and specifically to our british farmers. i do want to say this we are with you and the first official painted portrait of the king since his coronation has been unveiled at buckingham palace. >> the oil on canvas shows his majesty in the uniform of the welsh guards , of which he was welsh guards, of which he was made regimental colonel in 1975. the portrait by british artist jonathan yeo was commissioned in 2020 to celebrate the then prince of wales's 50 years as a member of the drapers company. in 2022. in the new portrait, the king is depicted sword in hand with a butterfly landing on his shoulder. for hand with a butterfly landing on his shoulder . for the latest his shoulder. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news mark menzies. now it's back
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to patrick. >> good evening everybody. now it is time to wake up and face the facts. our universities are immigration rackets for low skilled workers , and we need to skilled workers, and we need to stop the ridiculous graduate visa scheme. it amazes me the way in which today's migration advisory committees report into university immigration has been reported by the british media. look at some of the headlines they say stuff like, oh, graduate visa route should remain in place, say government's migration advisers. all right . who are these all right. who are these advisers? they are five year university professors. we've got professor brian bell, professor dina cowan, professor sergi padroes padrao, doctor madeleine sumption and professor joe swaffield sumption and professorjoe swaffield and dylan mcveigh as well, formerly of the home office. that's nice, isn't it? look, they are the turkeys who have been asked whether or not they would like to vote for christmas, and they've said no. imagine my shock. this is the
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same migration advisory committee that in 2018, advised that we shouldn't have a graduate visa scheme, but then since 2018, of course, british universities have entered into the giant immigration ponzi scheme and they now have to close down or reduce their offering . if we stop letting in offering. if we stop letting in every tom, dick and harry. not that that's what they're actually called, of course, because students are coming from nigeria , india, china and nigeria, india, china and pakistan. they account for 70% of all graduate visas with india accounting for more than 40% on its own. apparently, these are all countries with a terrible record at returning people who we do decide that we don't want here. it's a back door into britain. have a look at who the graduate visa appeals to. okay, it is not people from developed countries, but it is for people from developing countries, isn't it? you can just have a look at it? you can just have a look at it there for yourself. it's also a complete myth that it attracts skilled workers. remember when this guy said this?
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>> when mexico sends its people , >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're not sending you , they're they're not sending you, they're not sending you. they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. >> well, there's actually quite a good chance that if he was talking about what's going on in our universities now, he'd be right, because apparently 66% of all graduate visas are postgraduate degrees from non—russell group universities. so they are not doing top degrees at top universities. and then what happens are, yes, they end up doing jobs that they don't need a degree for. it was never their desired career choice and they earn a lot less money than they'd hoped for. let's talk about the money, shall we? okay if we're going to accept astronomical numbers of people from radically different parts of the world, they have to do jobs so that we can see economic benefit to their existence in britain. that's the trade off, isn't it? but yeah , trade off, isn't it? but yeah, no, that's just another lie that we're actually being told, because the median annual
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earning for the 73% of graduate visa holders who were in employment for at least one month in the financial year ending 2023, was just £17,815. so compare this over all median earnings in 2023 to just under £30,000 and earnings for full time workers of just under 35 k. look, in other words , those on look, in other words, those on the graduate visa system earn around half as much as uk workers. but there's another key point, isn't there, about today's report that the vast majority of our media do not want you to know about in the dying days of theresa may's administration , she stated that administration, she stated that we should try to have 600,000 foreign students enrolling every year. foreign students enrolling every year . this foreign students enrolling every year. this was a completely random number plucked out of nowhere. what this report says is that there is no real way that completely random number could be met if we reduce the graduate visa system. so that's what we're dealing with here. we are now dealing with a quota
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just imposed upon us by theresa may out of nothing, out of thin air. we have a home secretary in the shape of james cleverly, who clearly would not have commissioned this report if he wanted to actually reduce graduate visas . the report is graduate visas. the report is written by academics who would possibly not have a job if they recommended the scrap of graduate visas, and the report hinges on whether or not we can hit a meaningless round number of foreign students set during theresa may's prime ministerial death rattle and invokes sorry involves making sure that any old foreigner can come to britain and study underwater basket weaving at the polytechnic of broken dreams, and then go and work in tesco's. i'll also just say what? no elected politician can actually say. would it really be such a bad thing if some universities ceased to exist? do we need plymouth marjon university or the uni of east london keele? do we really need keele university? do we need people to be able to study a one year course in stand up comedy at the university of
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kent, or floral design at the university centre, myerscough, or horology? i think that's the study of time at birmingham university, a three year degree. so ironically they put a time limit on it anyway. seriously look, look, i'll just say it again. all right. our home secretary does not have to adhere to the findings of this report today. for the reasons i've outlined, we cannot let a handful of academics with massive amounts of skin in the game dictate our immigration policy to us. the opportunity to come and live and work in britain, enjoy our way of life . britain, enjoy our way of life. send your kid to the local school and use the nhs has to be worth more than a bang. average mickey mouse degree from a backwater minnow university and no, i'm. i'm sorry. okay, but if you want to ride britain's roller coaster, you have to be a certain height. that's the rules. but let's get the thoughts. my panel this evening, we have got columnist and broadcaster esther krakue, who has got conservative mp andrew rosindell and author amy nicole
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turner as to look at. i'll start with you. i mean, the mind boggles. when i saw the way that these reports had been greeted about, the, this, this university kind of immigration racket essentially say , oh, this racket essentially say, oh, this shows we need to keep the graduate scheme, doesn't it? well, actually, if you read the stuff that they've got in there, it doesn't say that. it says that it's a racket. essentially >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> i mean, i think i read somewhere that a third of the people that enrol on these courses, these graduate courses don't actually end up graduating, what you have seen with the government in terms of progress is by actually saying that you can't bring over family members. you've seen a reduction in those numbers because 40% of the kind of 1.2 net migration figures that we saw over the last couple of years have been dependents. and the real outrage should be there. why? why do you need to bring your dependents who are, you know, net who don't contribute? basically, they use our infrastructure, education, roads, all of that. i think the issue here that i have is the fact that there's no cap on this. so just by virtue of having studied in the uk, you get two extra years after you
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graduate to look for a job. i understand that certain sectors need skilled labour, but you need skilled labour, but you need to have a cap on it. you need to have a cap on it. you need to have a cap on it. you need to actually kind of streamline it and say this, this, this will ring fence it and say this. these are the industries that need certain skilled labours like engineers and all of that. this should be your minimum salary, which should be £37,000, because we know that's when you become a net contributor. if you earn anything less than that, you're actually taking more from the state than you're contributing. and there should be no more £20,000 a year. caring contracts. i'm sorry. you either pay contracts. i'm sorry. you either pay carers more or you cease to have those. those roles exist because there is no way that you should be bringing over people that don't necessarily meet the cqc standards to take care of people just because they did a bogus master's degree in this country. that's that's not good enough. yeah. >> i mean, one of the things that it shows, andrew, was that actually when you scratched the surface, the people who come over on these graduate degrees are often earn about half as much as people who are already here working. the idea that people are, you know, we are recruiting the world's brightest and best is a bit of a myth, i think, isn't it? >> i think that people want to
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get into britain and this is another loophole. this is another loophole. this is another way in. so the universities are bringing people over.i universities are bringing people over. i don't universities are bringing people over . i don't believe it's in over. i don't believe it's in the long term benefit of the united kingdom that we have this colossal number of people coming over and their dependents. and i tell you what, patrick, the british people have had enough. they believe that our country is already to full the brim. they don't want to see all these loopholes and all these backdoor ways of getting into our country. they want immigration to be controlled. so there's no mandate for this. i don't actually think that we should be promoting people coming from other countries to study in our universities. we've got far too many in this country already. so it's many in this country already. so wsfime many in this country already. so it's time to actually clamp down on this and close this loophole. >> you know, the origins of this policy was was david cameron, actually, and he started off initially as a scheme with only india. and then it kind of expanded to just the graduate scheme because his plan was he wanted to get like i was saying,
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fill in the gaps in certain industries that needed technically, technically skilled workers like engineers and all of that, but that it wasn't properly designed. there was no point system associated, there was no capitalism, just randomly goes, well, now you have all these people that have been funnelled into the gig economy . funnelled into the gig economy. i mean, i think you should. and listen, i don't think the onus is on these people because they're not at fault. you should make it illegal for the just eats and deliverers to hire these kinds of people and underpay them. >> it's an industry as well. it's an industry. everyone's wanting to come over the economy. >> that's what many of them work part time. >> no evidence of that. it's there's certainly evidence that they don't earn as much as the average worker in the first two years, but neither do our own. well, they have they have to live somewhere and are they're not in formal employment, earn more and are fine. >> but they're not they're not in formal employment when they're when they're in the country, they have to have a way of accommodating themselves and how to survive. many of them go into the gig economy, like the deliveroo, just eat, uber and all of that to sustain themselves. i think. >> are you sure that's based on fact? people who are paying like
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above and beyond to study in the uk like way more than uk. >> what do you how do you think they live when they when they're not in employment? >> one of our best exports. and you i agree with you putting your nose to spite your face can iask? >>i iask? >> i understand that industry which is generating a whaling industry for the economy, one of our best exports? i would completely agree with you in terms of, you know, the russell group, universities and those around the russell group universities, but, you know, studying ridiculous degrees, i mean, absolutely ridiculous mickey mouse degrees at completely bonkers universities that i just do not think need to exist. >> calling keele a bonkers university that is really well, there's quite a few out there that i would argue are quite rubbish. most of us don't need to exist so much in terms of research. in terms most of our universities don't need to exist. i think you're all saying the quiet part out loud, which is that conservatives generally want to shut down a lot of higher education. >> no, no, i don't. ijust don't because they don't need to exist. >> no i'm sorry. >> no i'm sorry. >> no, i don't think plymouth needs to university. >> hold on. no she's made a good point because these a lot of these universities are scams, right. there's no reason why you
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should be paying £9,000 a year, going in debt as an 18 year old for a useless degree. and someone needs to say it, but they generate billions. >> the higher so you higher education, you should you should generate billions for our economy. okay, have your production. >> you're happy. you're happy to plunge an 18 year old into £50,000 of debt so you can you can prop up your gdp figures. is that what you're saying? >> an international student has the right to be able to choose. we shouldn't be scamming teenage issues. >> we shouldn't be scamming teenagers. >> there's two clear issues here. what i've seen over the years is that universities become an industry. there's so many vested interests in expanding the university, setting up more universities, how is this actually benefiting our country with what you've said, patrick, so many degrees that actually lead don't lead to a proper job. and the second a properjob. and the second problem is it's allowing a way in to our country, vast numbers of people that then want to stay in britain. there's no evidence of that, yes . yes, absolutely. of that, yes. yes, absolutely. there's huge numbers of coming in. >> there's no evidence of abuse of this visa system, this country. people stay for two years and generally go back home. >> cannot any longer sustain the
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levels of immigration that we're having. and this is another loophole into the united kingdom. we have to close that loophole . loophole. >> it's definitely not a loophole. it's a visa system that works and generates billions. >> i'm just going to read some of the things out from this report. all right, amy, we are unable to estimate how many graduate visa holders leave the country before their visa expires. and the home office is currently unable to supply this data. around 70% of those on the graduate visa route have a pay record in the first 12 months of their visa. it's unclear whether their visa. it's unclear whether the remaining 30% are unemployed. we are unable to identify individuals moving into family visas or other routes into the data set, so when it says there is no evidence to suggest that people overstay their visa or whatever, it's because the home office isn't telling the report. which to me implies that there's actually a huge amount of evidence that people are overstaying. >> so are you familiar with the system of how to actually get employed in this country? as a non brit, you have to. you have to be sponsored by a company. do you know how much it costs company to sponsor people? the
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reason why a lot of these graduates end up working in the gig economy is because it's in formal employment, and the companies don't have to pay tens of thousands of pounds in sponsorship fees. and lawyer fees. that's the reality. so when you say there's no evidence, i don't think you have a practical understanding of what it is to be a non—british citizen. well to get a job in this country. >> but my point is it would be a very costly backdoor. but that's that's the point i'm making. it's a costly backdoor to, to, to exploit one of the big fears, one of them, one of the big fears that i have massively about this is i don't think that our home secretary would have decided to actually commission this kind of report if he really had any. >> i think it's quite useful for him now that a group of academics have said to him, actually, oh, there's nothing wrong with this graduate visa, you can keep it. i'm very concerned about that. but a migration advisory committee spokesperson said this. under the current funding models for higher education across the uk, the graduate route is helping universities to expand the range of courses offered while making up for financial losses on domestic students and research, and is supporting the government's international education strategy. it has also contributed to the diversify the
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range of universities that benefit from the financial contribution international students make. essentially, some unis and some courses would go bust if we cut back on the number of foreign students. so still to come after the northern irish courts blocked rwanda, flies are illegal migrants about to pour over the irish sea? nigel farage joins me live on that and he hits back at the tory health minister, accusing him of spreading myths. but up next, in his speech yesterday, rishi sunak reeled off a list of extreme groups , including this extreme groups, including this lot extremists are also exploiting these global conflicts to divide us. >> scottish nationalists are even trying to tear our united kingdom apart. >> so was he right to call scottish nationalists extremists? former snp spokesperson lieutenant colonel stuart crawford goes head to head with top tory mp ranil jayawardena. that's
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next. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight coming up, nigel farage reacts to the belfast court's blocking rwanda deportations in northern ireland. but first, are scottish nationalists extremists ? it's nationalists extremists? it's time now for the head to head . time now for the head to head. all right, so bit of context . all right, so bit of context. okay. listen to who the prime minister, rishi sunak, included in a list of extremists that he says pose a threat to the uk . says pose a threat to the uk. >> dangers that threaten our country are real. they're increasing in number and axis of
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authoritarian states like russia , iran, north korea and china is working together to undermine us and our values. extremists are also exploiting these global conflicts to divide us. people are abusing our liberal democratic values , as scottish democratic values, as scottish nationalists are even trying to tear our united kingdom apart. >> so the snp's leader in westminster, stephen flynn, was quick to slam sunak, saying the prime minister demeans himself by making such a pure comparison. what a way to spend your last few months in office, but perhaps the prime minister's comments aren't so pure when you consider the snp's track record. they got firmly into bed with the green party in a power sharing deal, which of course recently ended up costing humza yousaf's job. then there was nicola sturgeon's disastrous gender self—id bill, which allowed the trans rapist isla bryson , aka adam graham, into bryson, aka adam graham, into a women's prison . today, new first women's prison. today, new first minister john swinney still
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can't work out what a woman is. >> do you believe that a trans woman is a woman? >> i believe , you know, a woman >> i believe, you know, a woman is a, you know, an adult female born as a woman. and i also accept that a trans gender, women, are defined as women. >> right. and senior snp politicians kirsten oswald and kaukab stewart thought nothing of being pictured in front of this decapitate terfs sign in glasgow last year. there we go. so i would argue that's quite extreme and more still. just two months ago, sir humza yousaf's chilling hate crime laws which half of scots want binned , half of scots want binned, according to a new poll which would criminalise what you say in your own home. quite extreme, some would say. so. the question remains are scottish nationalists extremists? let me know your thoughts. go to gbnews.com forward, slash your say or tweet me @gbnews while you're there , go and vote in our you're there, go and vote in our poll. but first, going head to head on this are the former snp
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junior defence spokesperson, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford and the conservative mp ranil jayawardena . shapps, thank ranil jayawardena. shapps, thank you very much. absolute pleasure. ranil, i'll start with you . are the nats extremists? you. are the nats extremists? >> absolutely. i mean, if you look at their record, particularly during the referendum, you had people being told that no voters will be shot , you had people being told vote yes or else , you had balaclava yes or else, you had balaclava clad activists defacing no posters. and indeed the offices of politicians that backed the union, those aren't the activities of a legitimate political party. you know, and, you know, these are extremists. i'm not saying that all snp members are, but these people who did these sorts of activities absolutely are extremists and trying to break the world's greatest country apart . i mean, that's a very, apart. i mean, that's a very, very extreme policy. and they're gradually being found out, aren't they, patrick? because, you know, humza yousaf's useless was was found hugely wanting, in
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the last year and the policies of the ideology that was ramming this contested trans policy down the throats of people across scotland. thankfully is now, it seems, at an end. >> that's a good that's a good place for to us switch it over to our other guests, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, because, you know, we have rattled off there there's the idea of wanting to split up the union. that in itself is not particularly extreme, but maybe the way some activists go about it is you've got this hate crime stuff criminalising things in your own home, radical green policies, putting male rapists in female prisons. it's all quite extreme, good evening, patrick. and yes , if you put it patrick. and yes, if you put it that way, that's the way it does appean that way, that's the way it does appear. and indeed it is quite extreme. but of course, many , if extreme. but of course, many, if not most of those extreme policies , have caused the policies, have caused the downfall of the snp because they were so deeply unpopular with the broad electorate in scotland, the nationalist movement of which i'm not a
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member, anymore, but it is broadly a democratic movement which seeks scottish independence , whether we agree independence, whether we agree with that or not, by using democratic means and like any political party or, active movement, there are always going to be nutters on the fringes. and two, historically spring to mind with me. the first is the, the so—called scottish national liberation army, the snla , which liberation army, the snla, which at the height of its power and membership consisted of three misguided blokes and a tame but deranged haggis. and they, basically carried out a very minor campaign of letter bombs dunng minor campaign of letter bombs during the 80s, including one to diana, princess of wales , but diana, princess of wales, but then phoned up the media to claim responsibility using the founder and main activist mobile phone. so it was off to jail with him, which just shows how competent they are, i think more
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sinister in many ways is another organisation called the seed of the gael. i can't say it in gaelic, so i won't attempt, which is banned from snp membership, but seems to be mainly a cosplay cosplay organisation which turns up for the various marches that we have in the full jacobite rig . and in the full jacobite rig. and then at the end of the day, they all go back home to watch, the football in the television. so i don't think there is extremism, at large in the nationalist movement. and those who do deface officers and, and perpetrate criminal acts are generally disapproved of . generally disapproved of. >> all right, ronald, you know, one thing that always struck me was like during the whole brexit discussion or when we ever have some kind of national day or event here in britain, and people either, you know, wave the saint george's flag or the union flag, there's always these connotations of racism. you go to scotland there and you've got people on motorway bridges as you drive into scotland waving the scottish flag , shouting and the scottish flag, shouting and screaming at anyone who's got a car , the, the obviously has just car, the, the obviously has just come from england into that
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country, do you think? well, i mean, personally i find it quite funny, right? i'm not saying i'm genuinely offended, but i've found it quite funny. but i mean, that is pretty extreme. runl >> yeah, i mean absolutely. look, i'm all for some national pride and, you know, to celebrate the patron saint of any part of our united kingdom, of course, is a great thing. but, you know, it's no surprise with those sorts of antics and others that, you know, during that referendum. and i think it's really important to remember this yougov did a proper poll of no supporters and half of all no supporters across scotland felt that they were personally threatened by the extremists within the snp and indeed outwith, who were making it very difficult for people to do what they should be legitimately able to do in a liberal democracy. as the prime minister said. and, you know, there is this sense that, you know , if it's from some people know, if it's from some people in the snp that, you know, if it's not invented in scotland, it's not invented in scotland, it must be wrong. and this is a
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great shame, given that scotland has been such an important part of our uk, and that, you know, it's a part of the uk that we should be celebrating, and indeed, you know, it should be absolutely that heart of it going forward. it's no wonder, you know, education standards are down, policing standards are down. and the tax take, given that they've risen the rates in scotland, they are down. they are leading, scotland to ruin. >> all right. i'm going to, quite, quite briefly stuart, but i'll come to you finally on this. look, if we just invented a new political movement now that called for the demolition of the united kingdom for, you know , for us to completely know, for us to completely overrule what we all know to be true about gender and put men in women's prisons and say that we need net zero to the point where, you know, we're all essentially living on moss in caves for the next 30 years, that that would be classed as really quite extreme, wouldn't it? and, you know, i think rishi sunak might be right to do that about the party, you know,
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formerly fronted up by nicola sturgeon. >> well, i mean, you know, if you put it that way, the answer would undoubtedly be yes. but i think that. rishi sunak was playing to the gallery a little bit and conflating the scottish nationalist movement with various real threats to the security of, of the greater united kingdom was probably a bit of a mistake. it's you'll note that that part of his speech which has been placed on the government website, has that particular reference redacted. so obviously his advisers had their heads, hands on their heads and their hands when he said it and thought, who on earth told them to say that, well, well, there we go. all right. look. >> thank you very much, great to have you both on the show. wardner there. and, former lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. right, who do you agree with as rishi sunak sparks outrage by including independent supporters as a list of extreme groups are the scottish nationalists extremists ? i'm nationalists extremists? i'm intrigued to see what you've had to say about this, sean says. i'm speaking as a scot, not the
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say the scottish nationalists are totally anglophobic. it's embarrassing, gavin are totally anglophobic. it's embarrassing , gavin says not all embarrassing, gavin says not all scottish nationalists are extremist, but the snp certainly are. bevan says simply wanting to be independent from the rest of the united kingdom is not extremism. yeah fair enough, and your verdict is now in. 66% of your verdict is now in. 66% of you think that scottish nationalists are extremists , nationalists are extremists, whilst 34% of you say they are not coming up after falling behind on their charity fees. the duke and duchess of sussex have been made delinquent. yet paul burrell is princess diana's former butler and friend. and i'll ask him if harry and meghan are lacking her commitment to philanthropy . make sure you stay philanthropy. make sure you stay tuned for that. but before that, our illegal immigrants are about to pour into northern ireland to avoid being sent to rwanda . it's avoid being sent to rwanda. it's avoid being sent to rwanda. it's a game of kind of illegal migrant ping pong taking place between us and the republic at the moment, isn't it? but also, after nigel farage did this aukus a little campaign today to say that the government should not sign us up to the pandemic
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treaty. >> i think it's a very bad idea. >> i think it's a very bad idea. >> well, he's ruffled a few feathers because now the tory health minister has accused him of peddling myths, while the man himself, nigel farage, is ready to give us his unmissable response. he joins me in just a couple of moments, so
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news. coming up. reaction from former
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butler and close personal friend of princess diana, paul burrell, after the sussexes archewell foundation is declared delinquent. but first, it's time for the one and only nigel farage and the government is insisting it will appeal a bombshell legal ruling that would block rwanda deportations across the whole of northern ireland. sunak has said he will fight yesterday's decision made by the belfast high court, which ruled that the illegal migration act powers to send migrants from northern ireland to rwanda would be incompatible with the european convention on human rights. the judge also decided that the act would breach the good friday agreement of 1998, a home office source has warned. warned i tell you, if word gets out, then people will move to northern ireland to avoid being sent to rwanda. well, word has gone out and everyone's been warning about it for ages. and now shock, horror, it's happened. nigel further proof that britain should just simply pull out of the echr you're here? >> absolutely, there's no question about it. you can see exactly what's going to happen.
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i mean, number one, the windsor framework as sold to us by spinner rishi, you can see now was a complete and utter lie . was a complete and utter lie. sorry, strong word, but absolutely true. and the way sunak does this and presents things and denies the truth , things and denies the truth, northern ireland is still part of the european union end of thatis of the european union end of that is why there is no way. i mean, even though rwanda itself may not work because of echr, but there's no way, no way northern ireland is joining that scheme. what is even more interesting is, of course, that clever old tony blair. he wrote the echr into devolution agreements. he wrote it into the you know, the peace agreement in belfast in 1998, the good friday agreement as we know it, and there's no doubt that leaving there's no doubt that leaving the echr is the only way through all of these problems. we also must, you know, acknowledge it will mean a lot of hard work, you know, you know, relooking at
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the, the re—examining the whole devolution deal . it will meet devolution deal. it will meet a lot of hard work. but the fascinating thing is this if boat migrants come to britain and put in flats or four star hotels , abscond then to northern hotels, abscond then to northern ireland, crossed the border into dublin, the irish government will use it as an excuse to cover up for their own mass failures on legal and illegal immigration. and you know what will happen. they'll demand a border. i mean, you you you really couldn't hurt this stuff. no. >> it's bonkers. yeah, yeah . >> it's bonkers. yeah, yeah. it's bonkers. can i just put i'll just put this to you now. i'll just put this to you now. i'll just put this to you now. i'll just put this to you right. so rishi sunak's defiant response to the ruling yesterday. right. i have been consistently clear that the commitments in the belfast agreement should be interpreted as they were always intended and not expanded to cover issues like illegal migration. we will take all steps to defend that position, including through appeal. leonardo rishi sunak saying, oh, i will not let
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foreign court dictate to me. he's saying this about, oh, this is what i always intended. but then, you know, also today we've got, you know, a home secretary had commissioned a group of university academics to do a report on whether or not we should get rid of the graduate scheme. you don't do that as a home secretary. if you actually want to cut the number of graduates. do you? is this just an example? again of sunak saying one thing and actually not really caring behind the scenes? >> they want to con the british public. they're fighting an election. they want to they want to deceive the british public once again. vote for us. we're not as bad as labour. we're conservative. really. we're terribly sorry for the last eight years. but honestly, you can trust us. don't believe a single word in some ways, they're worse than you. they're worse than labour because they give false hope to the silent majority , yet led us down every majority, yet led us down every single time. sunak has zero intention, zero intention of leaving echr absolutely zero. and he's playing the game the
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tories played over the ukip rise on the european union. well, of course , if things got so bad, course, if things got so bad, we'd have to consider a different approach and then in the end, they were forced to give a referendum. and then when we said we'd leave, they tried to stop it, i mean, all the way through, you've got to understand, there is no conservative party. it does not exist. oh, their members are conservative and patriotic. their voters are conservative. and patriotic. their parliamentary party is not. and, you know , we have the lovely sir you know, we have the lovely sir jacob rees—mogg on our channel. and there are others like liz truss and mark francois , you truss and mark francois, you know, who have used patrick similarly , you and me, but they similarly, you and me, but they are in a tiny minority of the parliamentary just just on that. >> i wasn't actually planning on talking to this about your next, but you mentioned jacob there and he he told me to ask you earlier, germanova, whether or not you'd become a cabinet minister in the conservatives. i think, i think i'm just hearing
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now. i'm hearing now, look, we've got a little clip of this. so let's, let's, let's have it then. >> come on, sir, lies in reuniting the right with the help of nigel farage in a conservative government. as a conservative minister, with bofis conservative minister, with boris johnson probably returning as foreign secretary and welcoming the likes of ben habib and richard tice into our party, as well as pursuing genuinely conservative policies , winning conservative policies, winning the next election suddenly becomes within reach. >> i, to be honest, i look, i was i was busy playing my own show, so i didn't actually see him say that live. but it's quite astonishing, actually, for a conservative mp to come out and say that, nigel. >> well, not just a conservative mp, but, you know, one that's held high office and, and also is held in high regard , amongst is held in high regard, amongst the conservative party membership. it is an extraordinary thing to say. but jacob, play a bit of supertramp , jacob, play a bit of supertramp, their top track is called dreamer, and it's just not it's just not going to happen because rishi is not bold. he has no
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leadership whatsoever. and the truth is that the vast majority of conservative mps are social democrat , one nation careerists. democrat, one nation careerists. they have no courage . they have they have no courage. they have no vision. this will not happen. even though jacob thinks it's a frightfully good idea. >> well, well, it's probably possibly a good idea forjacob, because it might make him more inclined to keep his seat, which i'm sure you know, we all hope he does. but anyway, nigel, you've been you've been challenged by the health minister today is kicking off with you today, nigel. they've been challenged by the health minister today. after you suggested that britain should turn its back on the world health organisation. you're not content with dragging us out of the european union. you want to drag us out of the world health organisation? the pandemic treaty as well. what? what what institution won't you tear down, nigel? but go on, he says he says your claims are myths. go on. nigel, you're itching to get involved. >> hang on. what i said was very clear that if the world health organisation is there as a place
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for best practice , for exchange for best practice, for exchange of information, as an early warning system where we can learn things from each other, i'm very, very happy to be a part of it and pay a membership fee for the benefit of that knowledge. >> no problem, no question whatsoever. but the planned pandemic treaty, which they put together in the depths of 2021 when covid was a real problem around the world, which of course, boris johnson signed it, proposes to transfer powers from our parliament, our sovereign parliament, to their bureaucrat institution. and what's on the table potentially is a very massive shift of power . and table potentially is a very massive shift of power. and i'm saying let's go there. let's be robust . we'll find other robust. we'll find other countries that join us. let's say back to first principles. only then will we leave. >> nigel, thank you very, very much. nigel farage. there are a whole host of different topics now coming up, homes for hamas under a labour government. will labour give a load of visas to the people of gaza ? our
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the people of gaza? our classroom, our panel on that shortly. but next the sussexes cosplay royal tour has finally come to a close. and did you know, did you know that meghan markle is 43% nigerian? >> and i just i'm very overwhelmed. i want to start by saying, thank you very much for just how gracious you've all been, and welcoming my husband and i to this country, my country , my country. country, my country. >> okay. but back at their montecito base , the couple's montecito base, the couple's archewell charity has been declared delinquent. so is their top priority really their charity work? princess diana's former butler and friend paul burrell is on, and he's on
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. still to come. lee anderson has accused labour of a holmes for hamas scheme, which i'll be getting stuck right into. but first, princess diana's former butler, paul burrell joins me for tonight's royal dispatch . well, over in
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royal dispatch. well, over in montecito. reports have claimed that the duke and duchess of sussex have seen their flagship archewell foundation, declared delinquent by the state of california. so it's been alleged that the couple failed to file the correct paperwork and pay the correct paperwork and pay the necessary fees , and their the necessary fees, and their charity was reportedly set to be banned from operating until the corrections are made. but breaking tonight, archewell have claimed that they are fully compliant and hit back at reports that they are delinquent. so they've just sent us this statement right now says we have diligently investigated these situations and can confirm that the archewell foundation remains fully compliant and in good standing. due payments were made promptly and in accordance with the irs's processes and procedures. furthermore, all necessary paperwork had been filed by the foundation without error or wrongdoing. of course , error or wrongdoing. of course, the issue for them is that the relevant authorities do not agree with that and they have been declared delinquent. and who do you believe, really? this
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comes just months after archewell reported an $11 million drop in their annual donations , with high staff donations, with high staff turnover also proving to be a massive issue for the foundation. paul burrell joins me now. problems at archewell stacking up. paul, do you think charity really is their main objective here? >> well, patrick archewell , >> well, patrick archewell, seems to be embroiled in controversy at the moment . and controversy at the moment. and it's a mess, isn't it? it's not a good look for a charity when their donations are drying up and expenses are rising. and why doesit and expenses are rising. and why does it cost $2.67 million to run a charity when that money should be going to good causes? 2.67 million? that's an awful lot of stationery and an awful lot of stationery and an awful lot of stationery and an awful lot of postage . lot of postage. >> yeah, for not a lot of result as well. does anyone really know what archewell does? seriously? does anyone really know? i don't think they do. they know. you know, they can't even they can't even file the correct things on
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time. if you believe the californian authorities listen, there are only two directors of that company, harry and meghan . that company, harry and meghan. >> so they're accountable to each other. and quite frankly , each other. and quite frankly, we do. we believe what they're saying. no we don't. they should be keeping their eyes on the books a little more closely than watching themselves on tv. >> i mean, it's not a full time job, is it? and you would have thought that they would be they would be able to, you know, decide. but but maybe with the high turnover of staff. but harry and meghan have just finished their supposedly official royal tour of nigeria, they released a statement thanking the african state for the first of many memorable trips . one the first of many memorable trips. one memorable moment, for me at least, was their absolute refusal to sing the british national anthem . absolutely. i national anthem. absolutely. i mean, that was that was that was astonishing . i mean, and astonishing. i mean, and thankfully, meghan did find her voice, though, when speaking at the lagos state government house where she attempted to , flatter where she attempted to, flatter the audience. and yeah, it was a bit of a bit of an issue there
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banging on about how the fact that she was 43% nigerian. what do you make of all this, paul? >> quasi royal tour of africa is all about harry and meghan. it's all about harry and meghan. it's a massive public display and photo opportunity for them to bolster their flagging image. now remember patrick, they're they're about to launch two new programs for netflix. one all about polo and one all about cooking. so what better than them to launch themselves on the world stage , make themselves world stage, make themselves relevant once again, they have to maintain their image of being royal and being relevant . that royal and being relevant. that is their usp. without that, there's nothing else. but they are not in the same league as kate and william. they're not. this is good timing for harry and meghan. when kate's out and the king's out, and william's looking after the family back home, but they are no longer working royals. they do not represent the king or our
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country and they are undermining the good work which our royals do in commonwealth countries . do in commonwealth countries. now. the foreign office should keep their eye on this because they should be advising the high commissioners in all commonwealth countries and telling them that this is not a royal visit at royal visits , royal visit at royal visits, they play the national anthem. why was the national anthem played at their visit? it wasn't a royal visit. they didn't sing the words to it. i'm not sure whether meghan knows all the words to the national anthem. i'm sure harry does, but they didn't. why didn't they? and why didn't. why didn't they? and why did they play the national anthem, you know, i just think it's a mess . anthem, you know, i just think it's a mess. it's. >> there's a little clip of it, paul >> i'll just say there's just a few seconds here of, well, prince harry not singing the national anthem, basically. so let's. to be honest, he looks he looked like he had to be revived. there. >> isn't that embarrassing ? it's
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>> isn't that embarrassing? it's not only embarrassing for them, it's embarrassing for the world. and. and certainly embarrassing for our country. you know, i just i just don't get it, patrick. i don't get why they are launching themselves as a royal couple on the world stage, pretending to be still working royals when they're not. i think the king should have something to say to his son about his son's position on such a public platform in a commonwealth country . country. >> yeah, i find it absolutely astonishing. look, paul, thank you very much. i'm sorry. astonishing. look, paul, thank you very much. i'm sorry . we you very much. i'm sorry. we were a bit squeezed for time tonight, my good man. but i do hope to chat to you again very, very soon. all the best. >> just one. one. >> just one. one. >> oh, no. okay. well, sorry. all right. well, anyway, look, i've got loads still to come here because what will happen if nigel farage chooses to stand at the next election? top pollster matthew godwin has run the numbers. he's got exclusive analysis for us. but next. this is big. i think this is big, labour about to give homes to hamas. well, that's the view of
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lee anderson . but he's lee anderson. but he's responding to a speech by labour mp sam tarry , who's actually mp sam tarry, who's actually said that we should be giving visas out to the people of gaza. a fiery debate is on the way. stay tuned. >> for that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. who's >> hi there. welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. low pressure remains close to the uk for the next 24 hours and beyond that means further showers at times, but it's not going to be a complete washout. there will be some drier and sunnier interludes. some places will avoid the showers for long penods avoid the showers for long periods of time. that low pressure is sitting to the southwest. that's where we'll continue to see showers feeding into cornwall and devon overnight, but otherwise drying up nicely across northern ireland, wales into the midlands, southern england staying largely dry in the far northeast of scotland in between areas of cloud . some outbreaks areas of cloud. some outbreaks of rain but some drier
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interludes as well. many places under the cloud, staying at 12 to 13 celsius but cooler there as we begin the day for northern ireland. for southwest and west scotland , and some decent sunny scotland, and some decent sunny spells first thing and actually for many places it's a bright day. but there will be this zone of cloud and outbreaks of rain from east anglia into the east midlands, northern england, the far south of scotland keeping temperatures suppressed and some low cloud hugging. the north sea coast of scotland and northern england. elsewhere, sunny spells and a few showers and it's a similar theme as we begin thursday. this zone of cloud edges north into parts of northern england, southern scotland and then eventually northern ireland. either side of that, showers will develop the far north of scotland . the far far north of scotland. the far south of england stays dry and sunny on thursday. friday. further sunny. spells and showers. highs of 21 or 22. >> it looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> it's 10:00 gb news. >> it's10:00 am. i'm patrick christie's tonight. homes for hamas. >> should be able to put in place things through our immigration system . you know, immigration system. you know, the gazan people are highly, highly skilled. >> yeah. i can't wait to pick that apart. >> no . go to gaza and refugees >> no. go to gaza and refugees in britain. >> and you all laughed at me. well, i have to say, you're not laughing now, are you? >> a top pollster reveals what a nigel farage comeback would mean at the next election. and an lgbtq+ flag . lgbtq+ flag. >> it really is a flag for everyone. it's so inclusive . everyone. it's so inclusive. >> live well. our cabinet is split on banning rainbow lanyards, and we want to move to uk without a job offer. >> in fact, you don't even need a sponsor or work experience .
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a sponsor or work experience. >> that massive student immigration racket continues. plus a woman punches a huge crocodile in the face to save her sister. and what on earth is going on with tyson fury's dad, who ? i've got all of tomorrow's who? i've got all of tomorrow's newspapers tonight as well . with newspapers tonight as well. with my panel, we have got broadcaster esther krakow, tory mp andrew rosindell and author amy nicole turner, and can i just ask, what? what the heck is this? this portrait of our king? does he like that? do you think? anyway, get ready britain. here we go. the new show homes under the hamas . next.
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hamas. next. >> patrick. thank you and good evening. the top stories this houn evening. the top stories this hour. a manhunt is still underway in france after two prison guards were shot dead and three others seriously injured dunng three others seriously injured during an ambush on a prison convoy. during an ambush on a prison convoy . three vehicles were convoy. three vehicles were rammed at toll booths on a motorway at ankerville in the north—west of the country. images on social media showed at least two men in balaclavas carrying rifles near an suv that was up in flames as the car appeared to have been rammed into the front of the prison van. in local media is naming the suspect as mohammed amara, who's 30 years old and reportedly has ties to powerful gangsin reportedly has ties to powerful gangs in the city of marseilles . gangs in the city of marseilles. a new report says there's no widespread evidence the post—study visa for international students is being abused. the government's migration advisers say the visa attracted students to the uk and should remain , adding the should remain, adding the graduate visa route is not undermining the integrity and quality of the higher education system. the committee's report
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says if it was scrapped, universities would lose income from international student fees and have to cut courses . the and have to cut courses. the government has said it's considering the findings and would respond in due course. it introduced tougher rules for international students this yean international students this year, which it said aimed to help slash migration . the prime help slash migration. the prime minister is calling on shoppers to back british produce as he hosts the second farm to fork summit at downing street. labour says the conservatives have dnven says the conservatives have driven farmers to breaking point and have pledged a new deal they say will put money back into their pockets. but rishi sunak told members of the food industry that britain must reduce its reliance on fruit and vegetables from overseas. >> we are going to stick to our plan, supporting you to keep creating great jobs across the united kingdom and keep making the food that we know and love so dearly, and specifically to our british farmers . i do want our british farmers. i do want to say this we are with you . to say this we are with you. >> the first official painted portrait of the king since his
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coronation has been unveiled at buckingham palace . the oil on buckingham palace. the oil on canvas shows his majesty in the uniform of the welsh guards, of which he was made regimental colonel in 1975. the portrait by british artist jonathan yeo was commissioned in 2020 to celebrate the then prince of wales's 50 years as a member of the drapers company. in 2022. in the drapers company. in 2022. in the new portrait, the king is depicted sword in hand with a butterfly landing on his shoulder and a woman who saved her twin sister from a crocodile attack in mexico will receive a bravery honour, as she was included on the king's first civilian gallantry list. georgie lawrie from sandhurst, punched the reptile in the face during the reptile in the face during the attack. in 2021. both women were seriously hurt but recovered after treatment . recovered after treatment. georgia will be given the king's gallantry medal, which acknowledges exemplary acts of bravery . for the latest stories, bravery. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news
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alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gb news .com/ alerts. now back to . patrick. to. patrick. >> would a labour government really turned britain into a dumping ground for hamas? sympathising so—called refugees from gaza? well, labour mp sam tarry, who also goes by the names useful idiot and mr naivety, is saying that we should be welcoming in the palestinians. >> it's just two years ago, the government swiftly introduced the ukraine family scheme and as part of that, it meant british citizens and permanent residents, unable to sponsor a wide range of family members for visas should be those things that could be brought forward, would be an immediate way for all of us, including myself, including the honourable member for hampton hill and many others have given specific cases of individual palestinians who have family both in the west bank and indeed, of course, in gaza. >> yeah, but it didn't end there, he went on. >> nobody should be having to pay >> nobody should be having to pay tens of thousands of pounds
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to get across the border at rafah. we should be able to put in place things through our immigration system that they can actually make those applications and do so in a way that's obviously right for our country, but of course, allows those people to leave and leave quickly and to arrive on our shores and to safe haven as quickly as possible . quickly as possible. >> well, this led to lee anderson saying that labour would impose a homes for hamas scheme. now, lee was joking, but we have actually already done that. muhammad kassam suella was one of hamas's leading fundraisers and their head of operations in the west bank. and it turns out he was living in a council house that he bought in barnet, the most densely populated jewish part of britain, by the way. anyway now, of course, not all people from palestine support hamas, and it would really help if there was some evidence, though, to show that bringing people over from gaza to britain is a bad idea, and that maybe they actually might support hamas. oh yeah , of
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might support hamas. oh yeah, of course. no, there is actually, do you remember the disgusting pro—palestine protester that wore a paraglider poster on her back immediately after the october 7th massacre? well, it turned out that she's called heba al holac and she was granted refugee status in the uk after claiming that her life would be in danger if she returned to gaza because of her family's criticism of hamas. should we have a little look at why some muslim countries haven't wanted to accept gaza and refugees? the egyptian leader is worried that it might leader is worried that it might lead to militants being imported, and that they then attack israel from egypt and help to start a world war. he warned it would wreck peace in the region. fantastic. well, i'll tell you what. let's just import them over to britain instead, shall we? it worked out really well for the people of denmark. denmark took in 321 palestinian refugees in 1992. by 2019, 64% of them have been convicted of a crime, including 34% of their children to very large portion of them were also
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on welfare. labour have got form for trying to draw parallels between the russian invasion of ukraine and what's going on in gaza. a labour mp , andy gaza. a labour mp, andy slaughter, no pun intended, called for us to launch a ukrainian style refugee system for palestinians . and now sam for palestinians. and now sam tarry has done just the same. to clarify why that would be. like russians who celebrated russia's invasion of ukraine being granted asylum and refugee status here in britain because ukraine had decided to fight back. the other key difference is that most of the ukrainian refugees are women and children, and would most likely want to go back one day. there were celebrations on the streets of gaza as news of the unrelenting massacre , rape and baby murder massacre, rape and baby murder was breaking. about october the 7th. in fact, there were celebrations over here as well. weren't there? do we really want to add to
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that? okay, we know people like humza yousaf. they're right in favour of it. he wanted to make scotland a state of sanctuary for the gazans . scotland a state of sanctuary for the gazans. his wife's family were trapped over there at the time. he's also the kind of guy who went on a family houday of guy who went on a family holiday to qatar, where hamas terrorist leaders are housed. not long after the october 7th attack, you know who else quite enjoyed qatar? gary lineker ? enjoyed qatar? gary lineker? yeah, i bet he'd be in favour of this gaza resettlement program. but should we take advice from somebody who referred to october the 7th as constant images of children losing their lives day in and day out? >> now, obviously we all know what you know, october 7th happened and, you know, the hamas thing. but the hamas thing. >> yeah, that was the hamas thing . yeah. do you think he thing. yeah. do you think he minimises the 9/11 attacks to that new york plane thing ? maybe that new york plane thing? maybe only somebody who works at the bbc could be that spectacularly naive, unless they are a labour politician, of course. talking of the bbc, they've done massive
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amounts of pr for the migrant crisis in the past, most notably doing a special on the badreddin brothers on newsnight, who ended up being part of a grooming gang in newcastle. how long before we end up with bbc's homes under the hamas? now? i repeat that obviously not all palestinians sympathise with hamas, but a fair few do. and so it would be complete and utter madness to have a gaza refugee scheme right here in britain. in my opinion, only an idiot and a massive anti—semite or someone with votes to win in a muslim dominated political seat would think that it was a good idea. but let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i am, of course, joined by columnist and broadcaster esther krakow. welcome conservative mp andrew rosindell and author and broadcaster amy nicholson. esther homes for hamas, do you think? good idea , well, it's think? good idea, well, it's inconsistent at the very least with british foreign policy, because you can't say that the uk government stands with israel
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and then takes in gazan refugees. why why, why would they need to leave if you stand with israel, surely there should be no problem there. and also there's, there's genuine concerns, of course, about the values and culture that these people are bringing over. but those are the concerns of every refugee there are some people that integrate better with different cultures that are closer to their own than in western cultures, particularly if they've not lived in western cultures, growing up in western cultures, growing up in western cultures, grown up with sort of christian values that would make it easier to integrate in this part of the world, but i think the bigger the bigger question is actually what that would say about our foreign policy. yeah. okay. if the british government is not willing to criticise or is not willing to criticise or is saying that they're standing by israel, fine . you can't then by israel, fine. you can't then say that we're going to take gazan refugees because that's a direct, basically repudiation of israel's activities in gaza. okay, andrew, you know, the argument is , has been made now argument is, has been made now by a couple of people, which is that, hey, look, we did it with the ukrainian refugees. why shouldn't we do it with the gazans? >> well, why shouldn't the arab countries play their part ? so
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countries play their part? so gaza, palestinian people , it's gaza, palestinian people, it's a tragic situation all around in the middle east. but the arab countries, when are they going to start doing their bit? we've done our bit with the ukrainians and the ukrainians culturally have a lot in common with european countries, just as the people of gaza have a lot in common with the arabic countries. so when is egypt? when is saudi arabia? when is qatar? when all the other countries in the middle east, the arabic countries are going to play their part ? i personally to play their part? i personally think there's also a security risk. you pointed out the situation in denmark and the crime rate. look, the british people , i think are at the end people, i think are at the end of their tether with the threats that are posed against us with mass immigration that we never voted for, with the threat of terrorism , which is always terrorism, which is always present, particularly in london, i think people have had enough. if there are if there are refugees, i mean, a petition by
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the general public who wanted this to see this debated is literally why i'm sure there's lots of lots of labour, left wing politicians and others and members of the public that want this debated. but you come to my constituency and ask them if they want this, and i can tell you now they're going to be a barely a person that would actually say, yes, we should open the door. >> let's just let me in on this. do you do you think it would be a good idea to have a gazan refugee scheme in britain? >> i think that the reason this is this has been debated, and the reason it is in a lot of the pubuc the reason it is in a lot of the public consciousness, and i think the political class needs to have a bit of departure when viewing this. and they don't see what people see is how can you have a scheme for the ukrainians but not the palestinians? and that's what's concerning people. and they want a clear answer from the government. well, the reason for that is because the uk has condemned russia but has not. >> so therefore, the ukrainians are seen as victims but has not condemned israel. and therefore, by taking in gazan refugees, they will be seen as as victims. the question i have here, well, there are two legitimate points to make. one, if gazans are
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taking as refugees, what's the guarantee that they'll be able to return back? palestinians don't have the right to return in anywhere in the state of israel or the west bank or gaza. so by actually doing that, you set back the palestinian cause because you're saying, okay, we're taking these people in. that land is barren. what's stopping the israeli government for saying they've left? well, this is now our territory. and the second point is, you know, i think the idea that, you know, terrorism is or the threat of terrorism is or the threat of terrorism is, is from having an influx of, of immigration is actually factually inaccurate. most of the terrorism we have in this country is from people that are born in britain. and we i think the point you want to make is we don't tackle our own home—grown terrorism properly. why would you then bring on potentially the threat of people that can easily be radicalised? >> the thing is, when you read the debate, there are examples from the mps who are not just labour mps, they're liberal democrats, they're snp mps who are talking about the experiences of their constituents, and it's about the gaza families reunited. you said , 0h, gaza families reunited. you said , oh, what do they have in common with the people here? they are the family members of people who live here. there are examples of mps saying one of my
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constituents has a 79 year old mother. she's been displaced nine different times. she's sleeps two hours a night. she has to go to the loo. she doesn't have any privacy in public. she's sleeping in a tent. why can we not bring that woman here, amy? no. the same. the same argument. we don't like sympathy. we have any genuine person. but there are 17,000 children now. orphaned children are not terrorists . so why could are not terrorists. so why could there not be a scheme? i mean, thatis there not be a scheme? i mean, that is also to according hamas, for the children, just just for the elderly. >> the main point here is that gazais >> the main point here is that gaza is in the middle east. they're supported by the arabic countries. why can't the arabic countries. why can't the arabic countries start doing their best? >> but you're not listening again. you're not listening again. you're not listening again. the thing is, the families, why do you expect the united kingdom? >> because their families are here, but also they're the people who have organised. >> i appreciate the idea that all gaza and families are here. i'm not saying when we did the homes for ukraine, 3% of ukrainians came here. >> it's not the fact that if you say we have a scheme, 100% of people come, it would be these 350 families always done. >> it's for refugees. >> it's for refugees. >> well, they're not right now, but i think that at the moment
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it is doing its bit. >> we've reached the end of our patience, and i think that the arab countries should do their bit. >> do we have so you think we have to do more for palestinian refugees? >> because there are families of the gazans here. >> so what? so what? >> so what? so what? >> so what? so what? >> so okay, so what if so what? yeah. brilliant. okay so what about are we bringing over people who celebrated in the street when the october 7th massacre happened? because their mum and dad live in britain or their grandparents live in britain? great. brilliant. i don't want that. i don't think the vast majority of people do want that. and we've got no way of vetting that. >> if you look at all the examples of the constituents that were brought up in the debate, there was no examples of that. it was about elderly, it was about children. it was about orphaned children. >> yeah, but that's what it's always about, isn't it? but then the reality turns out to be something quite different. >> during the vietnam war, we brought over babies from vietnam. no problem. why can we not do more for those children suffering? >> all right. do you think we should do maybe more for those people? final word. esther, well, i think there's a difference between what i think should be done and what the government should what the government should what the government will do. i think it will be inconsistent to say that
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we stand by israel and then take on gaza and refugees, because that's directly saying that israel is doing something wrong. but i do want to point out that this idea that the arab countries have done nothing is also quite skewed. there are more palestinians in jordan than there are jordan. people in jordan, and there are more palestinian refugees historically in lebanon, palestinians have always been in that part of the world. the point is, okay, yes, arab countries could be doing more. you remember when jordan butchered the palestinians, black september? hold on. to make it seem like that is entirely their responsibility. entirely. listen, i don't i don't agree with the scheme just because palestinians have been treated very badly by some of the neighbouring arab countries , the neighbouring arab countries, you could argue they've been treated very badly by, by by their neighbour israel . so i'm their neighbour israel. so i'm sorry. that's that's not that's not going to wash. >> all right. okay look coming up i'll deliver the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. of tomorrow's newspaper front pages . we've also got pages. we've also got christopher biggins on about judi dench and trigger warnings. plus i will show you tyson fury's hilarious reaction to this headbutt from his furious dad, who . dad, who. >> was . >> was. >> was. >> i'll also be speaking to the brave brits who punched a crocodile in the face to save her twin sister's life. but before all of that , i'll reveal
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before all of that, i'll reveal how a nigel farage political comeback would affect the polls. can he save or sink the tories? top pollster and academic matt goodwin gives us the lowdown. that's an exclusive in its
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next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. a very first look at all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages is on the way shortly. but first, a shocking new poll has suggested that a
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nigel farage political comeback would add a whopping eight points to reform uk's party vote. so if the gb news presenter and reforms honorary president were to return to lead that party, both labour and the tories polling would fall by four points. it comes after a poll last week put reform just four points behind the conservatives, who continue to slump to new lows. well, the pollster and academic matthew goodwin, he's been digging into the numbers. he's responsible for all of this data. so he joins me now. matt, look, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. look, talk us through it, please. what does all of this really mean? what are the different permutations of it all? >> well, good to be with you, patrick. i mean, what it's showing us is nigel farage is still a political weapon. i mean, he's going to add about eight points to the reform party's vote. if he were to stand at the next general election. we know as well that already if reform, keep polling what they're polling nationally, they're probably going to cost they're probably going to cost the conservatives about 42 seats at the next election. so a
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farage gets involved on top of that. you know, obviously we can expect the seat losses to increase, and it's going to be another nail in the coffin for rishi sunak . rishi sunak. >> okay. so if nigel farage was to come back and lead reform, do we have any idea what that might look like in terms of seats for the reform party? because that's still where's the discrepancy? isn't it? or they could get a load of votes, but not a lot of seats. yeah this is a big problem of many of your viewers will remember 2015 patrick ukip get 12.6. >> they got one seat, obviously they they lost another seat in rochester and strood. they took clacton. look, i think reform basically needs to be getting up into the 20% plus range to be winning a handful of seats at the election. they're currently averaging around 14. we saw them got 17% of that blackpool south by—election. but they need to be getting a bit higher if they want seats. they need to be getting into the 20s. and don't forget patrick, they need to be targeting seats where there are lots of reform voters, many working class voters, many older voters, many voters that are
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really, irritated with immigration and the lack of controls on that issue down the east coast of england, for example , around parts of essex example, around parts of essex and kent, areas where ukip was strong and nigel farage was strong and nigel farage was strong in the past. so, look, i think like all small parties, what you need is a very focused strategy. you need to target ten, 15 seats maximum and you need to throw everything at those seats. now, will farage go for it? i don't know the people i'm talking to. they say he's thinking about campaigning in america. he's thinking about his tv career , he's probably also tv career, he's probably also thinking about, you know, how well is reform going to do? i mean, don't forget, farage has always been really the master of timing when it comes to politics. you know, he wants to go when , he thinks things are go when, he thinks things are going to have a major impact. and he may be looking at reform, you know, patrick, and saying, well, why aren't they winning by elections? i mean, this is a big question, right? why aren't reform winning by elections, given the scale of public disillusionment out there in a country with both illegal and legal immigration? and i'm sure
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that will be weighing on his mind as well . mind as well. >> yeah. i mean, is there a particular set of circumstances that no one's really talking about him, which is okay, let's say that the reform vote does come through and we end up with a hung parliament. i'm looking here that apparently it would take a few percent off the of labour's points as well. and actually reform could hold the balance of power. we could end up with a coalition between reform and the conservatives. is there a possibility there or not? >> i think that's pretty unlikely. i think what's more likely is that we have a very tight race. the labour party failed to , get into overall failed to, get into overall majority territory, which is what the local election results implied, by the way, labour only being nine points ahead. they really need to be 12.5 points ahead or more to win a majority. and in that kind of race, there will be enormous desperation within the conservative party to do a deal with reform, to basically get reform, to go away. now, richard tice and reform candidates are saying under no circumstances will
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there be a deal with the tories, but you can bet your bottom dollar that cchq and the conservative party will be throwing everything at both richard tice and nigel farage to say, look, just get your candidates to stand down and maybe we'll give you a seat in the house of lords , maybe we'll the house of lords, maybe we'll give you some kind of policy influence. maybe we'll give you some kind of, you know, maybe a 1 or 2 safe seats and we'll stand down in clacton or boston and skegness or whatever. i think a deal is very unlikely. but such is the desperation in tory land, i suspect there will be a lot of talking behind the scenes. scenes. >> scenes. >> okay, look , matthew, thank >> okay, look, matthew, thank you very, very much. as ever, thatis you very, very much. as ever, that is the pollster and academic matthew goodwin, who's been digging into those numbers. he's also got a substack . so he's also got a substack. so make sure that you subscribe to that and you get this infinite wisdom all for yourself. there we go. thank you very much. right. coming up is acting legend dame judi dench. write that people who require trigger warnings before theatre performances should just stay at home. judy's mate and the beloved actor actor christopher
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biggins. he beams in to give us his unfiltered take shortly. plus, rishi ends up with egg on his face, kind of. >> we will be delivering . yes >> we will be delivering. yes okay. wow >> okay, i'll explain what that's all about shortly , and that's all about shortly, and i'll be speaking to the brave brit that punched a crocodile in the face to save her twin sister. but next, it's the very first of tomorrow's front pages. so don't you dare
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. and it is time now to bnng tonight. and it is time now to bring you tomorrow's news. tonight with the very first of the front pages. let's do it . so the front pages. let's do it. so we start with the daily telegraph there, which, of course, is decided to lead on tories tell police bring back. stop and search. sunak also plans to scrap sex lessons for pupils under nine. and that
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quite bizarre portrait of the king. and the next front page. we've got to bring you is the eye. yes, there we are. so the eye. yes, there we are. so the eye have decided to go off on new weight loss jab gold rush offers obesity hope to millions 322. anti obesity drugs in development worldwide should people be forced do you think to take a zembic if it saves the nhs millions of pounds? let's go to next the metro uk's record 3 million food parcels, i would, yeah. also there's a quite big story there. a prison van, ambush on motorway two, french cops shot dead as narco bosses sprung the independent. the other one, their huge manhunt after two guards killed in ambush to spring inmate from prison van. police admit we can't tackle knife crime on our own . extraordinarily candid own. extraordinarily candid confession that they didn't need to make because everyone will see the videos that are out there every single day. but thank you very much. police i think we've got one more for you as well. our daily mail massive picture of the king, i sorry, i
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think that's just really weird. it looks like he's in hell . but it looks like he's in hell. but anyway, sex education, to be unrelated story. sex education to be banned for under—nines and no more gender dogma. so there we go. those are your front pages. we go. those are your front pages . now, look, we go. those are your front pages. now, look, i'm going to go to my panel, very shortly. i'm joined by columnist and broadcaster esther krakue . i've broadcaster esther krakue. i've got conservative mp for romford, andrew rosindell, and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner , broadcaster amy nicole turner, i'm going to focus on the daily mail first, actually. i mean, this picture of the king, i just i don't like it, i don't know, i find it really weird, andrew, what's your view on on the hell king? >> yeah, it's a bit unusual. i have to say . it's very red, have to say. it's very red, i don't know why there can't just be a traditional type of portrait. why? there has to be sort of like some peculiar twist to it. and the portrait that i'm looking at now on the front page of the daily mail. it really i
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think we could do better than that for our king. >> i think the problem for me is , is that i don't claim to be a massive art fan . i went to the massive art fan. i went to the tate gallery again recently and all i see there is people having all i see there is people having a breakdown. i don't see i don't see art, not seriously. i don't see art, not seriously. i don't see art. i saw someone with gloves on wearing a frock bloke, obviously, and, rubbing their handsin obviously, and, rubbing their hands in broken glass. and i thought , that's not art. so thought, that's not art. so maybe i just don't get this, you know what i mean? maybe i don't get he. >> he looks like he is in hell. he looks like he's being resurrected. yeah. i mean, this is like, you know, this could be posts. what happened to jesus after he was crucified? >> but like, i think the problem is the artists worry about their perceptions. well, this is artistic license. >> well, it may be, but i'd rather see a really good portrait of his majesty . portrait of his majesty. >> surely that's the most important thing. >> that's not what one is about, is it? it's a what's the name of the artist? it's. >> yeah. thomas >> yeah. thomas >> yeah, it's kind of thing. it's not. it's not for. it's for not people that don't like art. >> it's he's in uniform. so i
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get that. i just, i >> it's he's in uniform. so i get that. ijust, i it >> it's he's in uniform. so i get that. i just, i it makes sense. >> i've heard he's thrilled with it anyway. >> is he though. i mean, would he say he can't say he's not happy, he say he can't say he's not happy , can he. happy, can he. >> you know that was it something about the butterfly? the significance of the butterfly. >> the butterfly you can't even see because it looks like the butterfly is burning to death. you have someone has to point out to the butterfly is being barbecued. look at the butterfly on his shot. yeah, it does. yeah. would you like a roasted butterfly? it's like a bushtucker trial, isn't it? they're so. it's bonkers. >> it's just a they're so. it's bonkers. >> it'sjust a shame. they're so. it's bonkers. >> it's just a shame. that's the first one that they've painted off him. why? it has to be that it's like he could have done better. >> it should be the new cover of, like, dante's inferno. >> yeah, that's that's the full version. so when you get told as a butterfly on your shoulder, you can kind of see, you can kind of see it, right? you can't see it. but the thing that gets me is the facially i think is very good. oh, there's butterfly. >> sorry. yeah, exactly . >> sorry. yeah, exactly. >> sorry. yeah, exactly. >> there we go. >> there we go. >> it looks like a yellow blob, but actually over there. >> yeah. dorito. and they said there wasn't one. >> that wasn't one of the things that oh they wanted to take the focus off him being in his military uniform. i mean , with military uniform. i mean, with respect, i mean, a lot of the royals in military uniform is
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purely ceremonial anyway, isn't it? i mean, i don't think the focus really would have been his military career, which i don't think whatever, whatever more you look at it, the more interesting it that heads . interesting it that heads. >> but is that what you're supposed to? i don't know whether that's looking at it as one point of art or the other as well. you see it, you look, i think, let me flick let me flick us over to the i, i want to focus on the front of the eye. >> new weight loss jab gold rush offers obesity hope to millions, look, should people be forced to take things like ozempic if they are costing the nhs millions, maybe hundreds of millions of pounds a year, well, no, because no one should be forced to take anything. and also, the side effects of this are pretty awful, horrendous nausea and all of that. i actually think , and of that. i actually think, and i'm if, if i can muster the political will to do this , i political will to do this, i think if you want to tackle obesity and the crisis that we have , actually ban the delivery have, actually ban the delivery of hot foods, interesting . of hot foods, interesting. people want to eat unhealthy foods. they have to go and pick it up themselves. if you want to have food delivered, you're going to get a cold gazpacho or
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like a tesco meal deal, because i think that's actually what's fuelling it. we've made unhealthy lifestyles so convenient that people are are more comfortable. >> i mean, i don't want to i don't want to read out my delivery orders from the weekend, but i'm just saying if i'd have been made to go and get those myself. >> you're right, i would. seriously. i would now have less food regret. >> and then you kill. >> and then you kill. >> you kill the gig economy. you kill the. these companies that are happy to not offer people stable, proper employment . but stable, proper employment. but and you know, you're also tackle the obesity crisis but something you know this is an epic story. >> it was interesting because there were these links. oh, we can cure heart disease. it can cure cancer. do you know who funded all that research? the drug company that makes us rempe. >> yeah , of course. >> yeah, of course. >> yeah, of course. >> i mean, that's the same thing with most pharmaceuticals, isn't it better? >> i don't think anyone should be on medication, educate their life a living healthily and eating healthily. >> yeah. rather than start creating more drugs that we don't know what the effects of those will be. >> interm. yeah, yeah. >> interm. yeah, yeah. >> interm. yeah, yeah. >> i mean, i'm just reading here trials are exploring whether semaglutide medications also
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have the potential to treat alcohol addiction, alzheimer's and parkinson's and reduce the risk of a heart attack or stroke, which is which is what you were saying there. i mean, that that i just think will be absolute rubbish , really, the absolute rubbish, really, the new drugs in development include more convenient versions of existing weight loss treatments. |, existing weight loss treatments. i, i would be more i would be more inclined to potentially encourage people down the direction of, a weight loss drug. if you know, if it was that or they're just not going to lose weight. absolutely not. and they're going to have to use a crane to get to the back of a donkey and smack its bum. >> you can run with it. >> you can run with it. >> all right. >> all right. >> that's a better solution. sorry. no, don't don't pump people full of drugs. force them to live less, force them to make sure that their unhealthy lifestyles are less convenient . lifestyles are less convenient. right. okay. that's that's the solution. not pumping them full of drugs. >> all right, well, let me let me whack us on to the trigger warnings . i me whack us on to the trigger warnings. i imagine every show here that i do should probably come with some form of trigger warning, but legendary actress dame judi dench was shocked by discovering the use of trigger warnings at theatres. so dame judi told the radio times that
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if spectators are that sensitive, they should just stay at home. she has joined other notable names in her field, such as ralph fiennes, sir ian mckellen and blasting the woke invasion of the arts. well, to add another name to the mix was christopher biggins, who is not here yet, but there we go. and should we have trigger warnings, do we think at, theatres? amy, your views on trigger warnings ? your views on trigger warnings? >> well, well, i've always thought about this is it could help somebody and if it doesn't, then just don't listen to it. who cares? so yes, keep them because they could really help someone. >> well, what does a trigger warning look like though? seriously? so is it before the play seriously? so is it before the play starts they say okay everybody, this play has got , everybody, this play has got, what scenes of a sexual nature. it's the one you've come to watch. it's about a murder. it's got a bit of murdering in it. is it? >> is it more trigger warnings for things like sexual assault? >> also, isn't it a bit of a, like, doesn't it give away, like a bit of a plot like this, this show? >> because sometimes i don't want to know anything . it's want to know anything. it's a spoiler, isn't it? like, oh,
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this involves blood. if you have sensitivity around , like, race sensitivity around, like, race or whatever. and i'm just like, no, give it to me. i'll get it. >> because because some of the, some of the trigger warnings are ridiculous. i mean, apparently there was a trigger warning recently because people were eating oranges in it when the noise of the meeting the oranges was, oh, asmr. >> yeah , people have sensitivity >> yeah, people have sensitivity to kind of like hearing people eat and certain sounds. >> and you know what i have that i can't hear people clean their teeth. it absolutely freaks me out. >> i mean, i think any chewing thing is just like trigger warning, actually. >> yeah, because the chewing thing is not necessarily a phobia, but it's like they sound like a goat. >> whole thing is just crazy. it's woke madness. >> no, it wasn't until he brought in the orange to bring out the orange. >> the orange? if you go to the theatre, you're there to see drama. >> you're there to be shocked or inspired to laugh or whatever it might be. you can't have a trigger warning literally on everything at the end of the day, if you don't want to be seen in, that's shocking. don't go to the theatre. >> yeah, yeah, i'm inclined to agree . i think also everyone has agree. i think also everyone has agree. i think also everyone has a little bit of a clue about what they're saying right now. farage got milkshakes, corbyn got egged, and now sunak has
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been splattered. or has he is opening the gates up of the future where we will be delivering lee kuan yew. >> yes. okay. right. okay. well no, mate, that's not right, yeah. all right. no, mate, that's not right, yeah. all right . okay, so the yeah. all right. okay, so the gattaca was disappointed to know that his target was not actually really rishi sunak, but an impersonator of rishi sunak, a lookalike. but it's not the first time the poor doppelganger apparently has also faced verbal abuse and being covered in water for being mistaken for the prime minister. which begs the question, why does he continue to be paid to impersonate the prime minister? doesn't it really? you're you've made a job out of it, you know, you don't have to do that. you could just you don't look enough like the prime minister if you weren't pretending to be him. people wouldn't argue in the street anyway. coming up, is j.k. rowling really a bully for stating biological facts? we debate that, as i crown tonight's greatest britonnic union jackass plus fury by name .
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union jackass plus fury by name. oh, yeah, i will show you that full altercation between tyson fury's dad and some random ukrainian chap, and i'll be speaking to george lorry after she was honoured by the king for fearlessly saving her twin sister by punching a crocodile . sister by punching a crocodile. yes, a proper hero. and it's
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next. it's time to return to the liveliest pay per view anywhere on telly. here's some more from pages.i on telly. here's some more from pages. i start on telly. here's some more from pages . i start with the on telly. here's some more from pages. i start with the times don't teach pupils about gender. id schools told they've also got that portrait, if you want to call it that of the king, yeah. there we go. let's move on to the guardian in us warns georgia not to side with russia against the west crackdown on protests in ex—soviet state over kremlin
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inspired law. interesting. what's going on in georgia at the moment. i'm seeing a lot of eu flags being waved in that crowd of protesters and i saw that not that long before we had the invasion of ukraine from russia. so is it wise? i don't know. anyway the mirror, mummies, a legend. i'm a mess. okay, tv fave announces the arrival of son wilder with his wife anne—marie. this is, of course, ant mcpartlin and his wife welcoming their first child to the world. while many congratulations to them. all right. okay. and we've got the daily express fighting chance migration will fall to 150,000 a yeah migration will fall to 150,000 a year. yeah, i mean, it is interesting this one, isn't it? which is whether or not we've overestimated the only thing i would say is when have we ever really overestimated the annual migration stats? it tends to work the other way, but , i'm work the other way, but, i'm going to get on to a story, a remarkable story . this. so remarkable story. this. so a berkshire woman has been given the honour of being included on
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the honour of being included on the king's debut. civilian gallantry list, as she won the first gallantry medal awarded for punching a crocodile in the face. yeah, 31 year old george o'leary saved her sister melissa from certain death back in 2021, wrestling a gigantic croc away after it attacked the pair in a mexican lagoon . both sisters mexican lagoon. both sisters were seriously injured. they miraculously survived . i am miraculously survived. i am honoured to say that georgia joins us now. georgia thank you very much. and both of you are here as well for these fantastic , great stuff. so look, it's an extraordinary tale isn't it? and can i just ask how it felt to be honoured by the king? firstly it's really cool. >> i feel honestly so privileged and honoured, to have the first king gallantry medal, i mean, not many people can say that they've been awarded one of those. so yeah, it's a privilege. yeah. >> and, look, this is all leading to other things as well, because i believe that you've decided to , do some stuff for decided to, do some stuff for charities, a charity swim. is that right ?
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that right? >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> so we're swimming the thames marathon, which is 13km for ptsd uk and companeros and suella, two really remarkable charities. so amazing. yeah. i mean, fingers crossed we can get through it and raise a good amount of money. i'm sure. >> i'm absolutely certain that you will definitely. look, i hope you don't. i hope you don't mind me asking this, really, but, i mean, like melissa. i'll ask you really? what happened on the, like, the day in question? if you don't mind me asking ? if you don't mind me asking? >> so we're there actually to see the bioluminescence . see the bioluminescence. >> and that was in the evening. but we decided to take a walk along the beach and go for a swim. it was super hot day and we went swimming. and one of the brothers that we were with said, you know, what's that in the distance? and i saw that as a crocodile. and, you know, honestly, after that time stood still and we just we swam as fast as we could. and unfortunately , as my friend went unfortunately, as my friend went to, pull me onto the bank to
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safety, my hand got snatched and i got dragged underwater for, oh my gosh. >> yeah, well , my gosh. >> yeah, well, i mean, it's absolutely astonishing, really. and you must have been fearing the worst, presumably. and then along comes georgia. is that right? and the rest is history as they say . as they say. >> yeah, yeah. so, georgia actually found my body, floating face down towards her. oh, yeah. i mean , that's not a sight that i mean, that's not a sight that you want to see. especially because one of the brothers had managed to escape into a tree. he said there's a body. it's not. there's melissa, you know, so you fear the worst. immediately and then you see her and, you know, she was blue, essentially. so i turned her oven essentially. so i turned her over, tried to revive her, and thankfully she regained consciousness . but the crocodile consciousness. but the crocodile came back. so i had to find her. yeah. so this. yeah so when i managed to get her away, when the crocodile eventually decided to leave, i managed to get her
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somewhere a little bit more secluded. but it came back a third time and that's when it death rolled her in front of me . death rolled her in front of me. >> and you were. and you were. yeah.i >> and you were. and you were. yeah. i mean, you were then obviously, like, i've got to just try and fight this thing off because you haven't got a choice, presumably in that situation. >> yeah. no i mean, it's a very primal instinct. so i believe everyone has that inside them that they can tap into . that they can tap into. obviously, most of the time a threat like that isn't presented to you. so but i mean, yeah, it was luckily i had a fight instinct rather than a flight or a freeze. so yeah, i just went hell for leather and just punched the heck out of it. >> well , i punched the heck out of it. >> well, i mean, well done, obviously. i mean, it's an unbelievably brave i mean, you've said there that it's a fight or flight instinct. i mean, i think there's a heck of a lot of personal bravery that's gone into that. i mean, injury wise, how how are how are you both , you know, have you kind of both, you know, have you kind of recovered a bit? i know that you're planning on, on doing this swim and maybe the mental injuries are still there. assuming. but go on. how are you
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both getting on? >> yeah. so we're doing much better now, i think , recovery. better now, i think, recovery. it's not straightforward. you know, you take one step backwards and two forward. so it's . yeah, it's a work in it's. yeah, it's a work in progress, isn't it. yeah. it's not linear i mean mental health can there's no journey really. that's straightforward. so it's certainly going to be challenging, but i think, you know, it takes time to navigate, but you can't really put a time frame on that. and thankfully we've got a good support network around our family and friends, andifs around our family and friends, and it's a learning journey , so. and it's a learning journey, so. >> well, well, both of you seem like absolutely remarkable people. and thank you very, very much for coming on. could i just, could say, is there a way that people can donate? is there like a shameless plug that we can do now to a donation site or something like that? >> yeah, that would be great. so, it's called the crocodile twins big swim and that's on
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justgiving. >> brilliant. all right. great stuff, well, look, thank you very much. and can i also say thank you very much for coming on because i know that you've been very, very busy today and you've, like, really stayed up and made time for us. so thank you so much. good luck with everything. i hope to talk to you both again very soon. all the best. now take care. bye bye bye bye bye, right. brilliant stuff. wow i mean, yeah, i don't really, to be honest, i'm a bit shell shocked by it. by all of that, especially listening to some of the detail of it all. they're a remarkable, remarkable set of twins there, aren't they? but. right. well look, i'm joined again by my press pack, and we've got columnist and broadcaster esther krakow. we've also got conservative mp for romford, andrew rosindell , and romford, andrew rosindell, and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. and look, time for something completely different, as they say there, because we have got possibly the biggest boxing fight of the 21st century coming this weekend. heavyweight tyson fury and vladimir usyk go toe to toe. tensions are high, but not just between the fighters . here's between the fighters. here's what happened when tyson fury's dad, big john fury , bumped into
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dad, big john fury, bumped into team usyk yesterday . sorry. team usyk yesterday. sorry. dory. dory. >> dory . glory. glory. glory. >> dory. glory. glory. glory. glory. glory. glory glory. glory. glory. glory glory. glory. glory >> father fadi diab . whoa . >> father fadi diab. whoa. >> father fadi diab. whoa. >> right. so he's nutted him, right? so after those bloody scenes . big right? so after those bloody scenes. big john has since apologised, but added. it's what we live for. we're fighting people. that's a regular occurrence for me . well, it is occurrence for me. well, it is actually an astonishingly regular occurrence for big john fury and bestie. you had an interesting theory on this that only someone like that could produce a heavyweight champion of the world. >> of course, i mean, he's produced a world class boxer. he clearly has some predisposition to this type of extreme
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violence. >> exactly . yeah. >> exactly. yeah. >> exactly. yeah. >> i mean, look at mike tyson's dad. i'm sure if you go through his lineage, his his dad might have been like some sort of pnzed have been like some sort of prized wrestler or something. >> probably. yeah. there's probably a bit to be said for that. >> i think he needs to go practice and mindfulness. can you have a yoga ? you have a yoga? >> i'm not. i'm not sure. >>— >> i'm not. i'm not sure. >> we're going to be bumping into john fury at the priory anytime soon. i hope not, but there we go . look, i have got there we go. look, i have got time now to reveal today's greatest briton and union jackass to start with you. who's your greatest briton? please, jk rowling . okay. why? rowling. okay. why? >> because our tweets are so funny. okay? >> she's just lost her mind. no. >> she's just lost her mind. no. >> she's just lost her mind. no. >> she's hilarious . >> she's just lost her mind. no. >> she's hilarious. i'm >> she's just lost her mind. no. >> she's hilarious . i'm sorry. >> she's hilarious. i'm sorry. there is something about a witty woman that i find irresistible. she is not just a wordsmith. she's hilarious . she's hilarious. >> what's hilarious about what? i think we can see one of her comebacks on twitter are just so funny. >> i'm women. i mean, i'm sorry. no, listen, this is my kind of woman because she she says what she says and doesn't doesn't
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hold back. okay? >> she used to say, you know, i respect trans people, but now she's just gone full pelt. >> maybe it's because they started disrespecting her. i don't know. >> well, i suppose maybe. >> well, i suppose maybe. >> andrew, who's your greatest briton? >> well, i'd like to nominate our most patriotic speaker of the house of commons, sir lindsay hoyle. he's actually, since he's been speaker , he's since he's been speaker, he's installed flagpoles in new palace yard . we now fly the flag palace yard. we now fly the flag of saint george's day. on saint george's day, saint david's day, the flag, saint andrew's day , the flag, saint andrew's day, but also flags anzac day. we had new zealand, australia , the new zealand, australia, the channel islands. last week we had jersey and guernsey. he's the most patriotic speaker and he's not afraid to fly the flag . he's not afraid to fly the flag. >> all right. okay. fair enough, amy, who's your greatest? britain? please >> so i was going to have jess phillips, but i'm not, i'm not. i'm changing it. i like jess phillips because i was so into that , interview phillips because i was so into that, interview you did with the crocodile girls that i really want to nominate them, because the crocodile girls, i, i lost, i lost my brother . and i i lost my brother. and i remember on that night i had to
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prise open these electric gates. and it's true what she said. you find this strength when something is an emergency. and it tapped into that. and i just felt like i need to, i need. >> oh, bless. okay well. >> oh, bless. okay well. >> crocodile girls. >> crocodile girls. >> well and they've won. yeah. there you go. all right. so, crocodile . there we go. georgia. crocodile. there we go. georgia. georgia. laurie, who managed to save her sister? now, look, normally we would do a union jack house. we unfortunately have, run out of time for that today , but i'll just tell you today, but i'll just tell you who the one i nominated was. >> didn't even nominate him. no, they didn't even nominate this quy- >> jonathan. yeah, he's the guy who painted what looks like king charles emerging from the gates of hell. i don't understand why. anyway, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everybody who's been watching. i'll be back tomorrow at 9 pm. and thank you for ben leo, for covering for me yesterday when i was off sick. take care. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> hi there. welcome to the latest forecast from the met
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office for gb news. low pressure remains close to the uk for the next 24 hours and beyond that means further showers at times , means further showers at times, but it's not going to be a complete washout. there will be some drier and sunnier interludes. some places will avoid the showers for long penods avoid the showers for long periods of time. that low pressure is sitting to the southwest. that's where we'll continue to see showers feeding into cornwall and devon overnight, but otherwise drying up nicely across northern ireland, wales into the midlands, southern england staying largely dry in the far northeast of scotland. in between areas of cloud. some outbreaks of rain but some drier interludes as well. many places under the cloud staying at 12 to 13 celsius but cooler there as we begin the day for northern ireland. for southwest and west scotland , some decent sunny scotland, some decent sunny spells first thing and actually for many places it's a bright day. but there will be this zone of cloud and outbreaks of rain from east anglia into the east midlands, northern england, the far south of scotland, keeping temperatures suppressed and some low cloud hugging. the north sea
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coast of scotland and northern england. elsewhere, sunny spells and a few showers and it's a similar theme as we begin thursday . this zone of cloud thursday. this zone of cloud edges north into parts of northern england , southern northern england, southern scotland and then eventually northern ireland, either side of that, showers will develop the far north of scotland. the far south of england stays dry and sunny on thursday day. friday. further sunny. spells and showers. highs of 21 or 22. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on
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