. it's plan for workers rights. it's the union barons, not sir keir starmer , who will be running starmer, who will be running britain in the big story as former chancellor nadhim zahawi, right, that the tories made a huge mistake getting rid of bofis huge mistake getting rid of boris johnson . we'll be heading boris johnson. we'll be heading to the united states and getting the views of a former top aide to margaret thatcher as king charles announces his first foreign trip following his cancer diagnosis. we'll get reaction in the studio from legendary royal author angela levin. it's the king now working too hard for his own good, and i'm looking forward to this in my take at ten, archbishop justin welby weighs in on another political row over the two child benefit cap stick to weddings and christenings, archbishop. i'll be dealing with justin welby in no uncertain terms at 10:00. so we're busy.

show two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment tonight. the labour party and union chaos after the news headunes union chaos after the news headlines and sam francis . headlines and sam francis. >> very good evening to you and welcome to the latest news headunes welcome to the latest news headlines from gb news. it's 9:00 and we start with the top story of the night that the iranian president and foreign minister are missing after their helicopter crashed in the mountains in the north of the country this afternoon. ibrahim rac was travelling in a convoy of three aircraft following a visit to azerbaijan when it went down. the area of the crash site is now covered in severe fog. we understand which is causing trouble for the search and rescue efforts there in the last houn rescue efforts there in the last hour, though there have been conflicting reports, with some suggesting the president's crashed helicopter has been found, state tv telling the reuters news agency it was discovered in the last hour by

search and rescue teams. moments later, though, iran's red crescent denied those reports . crescent denied those reports. meanwhile, in the uk, the families of those affected by the infected blood scandal have been holding a vigil this evening ahead of an independent inquiry's final report due out tomorrow. the scandal had been the subject of the biggest ever pubuc the subject of the biggest ever public inquiry in the uk , after public inquiry in the uk, after tens of thousands of people were infected by contaminated blood. the chancellor has vowed to compensate victims with a £10 billion package, with jeremy hunt claiming it's part of fulfilling a promise he made to a constituent who died after contracting hepatitis c. well, one of the victims, joan edgington, has discussed the effect it's had on her. >> all have different and various physical, things, but it's the mental, the anguish, of what we're going through. and that in itself is the support . that in itself is the support. if you have a, you know, the friends support, but also , as

friends support, but also, as mentioned that the red cross are there at the hearings and we can now go for counselling. and a lot of people are no, go for counselling. they've just, it's the uncertainty of your future. and what it's done to you, and if it's stability of your mind in a way nhs staff will be told to work evenings and weekends under labour's plans to slash waiting lists , hospitals would waiting lists, hospitals would be asked to share their staff and pool waiting lists as part of a £1.1 billion drive to provide an extra 40,000 appointments each week. >> shadow health secretary wes streeting is also promising to protect whistleblowers and to cut the nhs reliance on migrant workers , £1.1 billion paid for workers, £1.1 billion paid for by clamping down on tax avoidance and also closing non—dom loopholes as well. >> and that will enable to us put £1.1 billion directly into the pockets of nhs staff to deliver those extra appointments. the evenings and

weekends, using an approach that's been tried and tested at the london hospital. i can literally see out of my office window in westminster and therefore an approach we need to see available to patients right across the country, not just in london and that does come with a cost. and that's why we've made this commitment as our first step on the journey to busting the tory backlog and cutting nhs waiting lists . waiting lists. >> wes streeting they're speaking to gb news this morning . well, in other news, today, a 14 year old boy has died after getting into difficulty in the river tyne in northumberland . a river tyne in northumberland. a huge search involving police, fire crews , paramedics and fire crews, paramedics and mountain rescue teams was launched on saturday afternoon when another boy, who's 13, was rescued. he's in a critical condition in hospital, though the body of the 14 year old was later found in the water. america's first black astronaut has become the oldest person in space, 60 years after he almost was picked for an early nasa mission . at 90 years old, former

mission. at 90 years old, former air force pilot ed dwight experienced a few minutes of weightlessness with five other passengers on board a capsule that was operated by amazon billionaire jeff bezos. the brief flight from west texas was blue origin's seventh time taking tourists into space. and finally, in some sports news, manchester city have won their fourth consecutive premier league title . that's a record league title. that's a record after beating west ham three one on the final day of the season tonight. phil foden scored twice in the first half to help ease nerves at the etihad . nearest nerves at the etihad. nearest challengers for the trophy. arsenal scored late to get past everton two one, but it wasn't enough. everton two one, but it wasn't enough . that's the latest from enough. that's the latest from the newsroom. another update at 10:00. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts . go to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you sam. welcome to

mark dolan. tonight in the big story is former chancellor nadhim zahawi right, that the tories made a huge mistake getting rid of boris johnson? we'll be heading to the united states and getting the views of a former top aide to margaret thatcher. as king charles announces his first foreign trip following his cancer diagnosis. we'll get reaction from legendary royal author angela levin is the king working too hard for his own good? also should the home secretary ban the pro—palestine protests , i'll the pro—palestine protests, i'll debate that with my mark meets guest, the man who a police officer refused to allow to cross the road because he looked too overtly jewish. in a story that sparked global outrage. and in my take, at ten in an hour's time, archbishop justin welby weighs in on another political row over the two child benefit cap stick to weddings and christenings . archbishop i'll be christenings. archbishop i'll be deaung christenings. archbishop i'll be dealing with justin welby in no uncertain terms at ten. you won't want to miss it. uncertain terms at ten. you won't want to miss it . reacting won't want to miss it. reacting to those stories and much more

tonight, my top pundits, former ukip leader henry bolton and broadcaster and journalist emma webb, and political consultant emma burnell. webb, and political consultant emma burnell . plus the most emma burnell. plus the most important part of the show your views, they come straight to my laptop. gbnews.com/yoursay essay and this show mark dolan tonight has a golden rule we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so a big two hours to come. justin welby at ten. but first, my big opinion. labour's six point plan announced this week, is thinner than posh spice on the keto diet. but it doesn't matter. a labour government is coming in what feels like a car crash in slow motion, and labour's more radical ideas are already an accident waiting to happen. don't take my word for it. new labour mastermind peter

mandelson , speaking to the mandelson, speaking to the sunday times in march, voiced deep concerns about labour's plans to bolster union power and burden businesses with extra costs and red tape. he told the labour leadership to move more slowly and here's why. sir keir starmer has vowed to put forward drastic labour market reforms within the first 100 days of winning power. these reforms are not on his list of six pledges, which i think is telling this unprecedented initiative, being fronted by angela rayner, about which rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor, reportedly has concerns , would potentially give concerns, would potentially give all workers employment rights from their first day on the job. now that sounds lovely, doesn't it? who would argue with that? but what it means in reality is that businesses could employ someone who's completely useless and be stuck with them. companies would potentially have

to use a four stage process, then an employment tribunal. if someone was incompetent or even if they didn't turn up to work under those circumstances , under those circumstances, companies will simply be reluctant to hire people in the first place. and what does that mean? well, more unemployed aren't. you're welcome. they also want to end zero hours contracts for people who do casual work on unspecified days and for unspecified hours . like and for unspecified hours. like and for unspecified hours. like a lot of ideas from labour, it is well intentioned, but the reality is that many people, including women with families, carers and students, enjoy vie. the informal nature of zero hours contracts. i was on them for years and loved them. the flexibility of zero hours was enjoyed by over a million people last year alone, labour will take that away from them because they don't believe in choice . if they don't believe in choice. if companies can't employ people casually, they will just make do

with the staff they've got. what does that lead to? yep more unemployment and more people on benefits in a country that's already broke. you're welcome. and then there are enhanced rights for the trade unions , rights for the trade unions, including 1970s style collective bargaining . again, it sounds bargaining. again, it sounds lovely, but bear in mind how industrial action has crippled our railways, our health service and other key sectors in recent months. that's before labour's reforms, which will inevitably lead to further strike chaos, which means disrupt lives and yet more economic damage . yet more economic damage. enhanced union power will also likely lead to more government borrowing or tax rises, or both . borrowing or tax rises, or both. as prime minister starmer is forced to grant unaffordable pubuc forced to grant unaffordable public sector wage settlements, a further consequence of which is inflation. you're welcome . is inflation. you're welcome. it's what can only be described as a perfect economic storm. what about the £15 national

living wage? an idea that i am very sympathetic to, of course. but what is the reality ? well, but what is the reality? well, it will devastate small businesses and jobs in sectors like hospitality, retail and social care. those organisations will take on fewer people or they will fold . and again, it's they will fold. and again, it's inflationary. i like policies that work, not ones that sound good. now, i believe that trade unions are of critical importance. bosses will always try to rip off their workers , try to rip off their workers, which is why all of the people watching and listening to this programme should have professional support , professional support, professional support, professional representation and professional representation and professional protection. but it's a fine balance between workers rights and a fair wage versus crippling businesses who generate the national income for this country that pays for everything. and the organisation who actually employ people. the

pubuc who actually employ people. the public sector bankrolled by the taxpayer is already far too big, with the nhs, for example, overflowing with middle management on six figure salaries. we need companies employing people, not the government . right? but these government. right? but these reforms under labour threaten to make that less attractive. now the perception is that the tories are in a chaotic state at the moment. i don't see it if so—called chaos is low, unemployment falling, inflation rising, wages expected , lower rising, wages expected, lower interest rates and an economy which the for office national statistics says is, and i quote, going gangbusters. that's right. going gangbusters. i'll take that chaos . the alternative is that chaos. the alternative is shadow chancellor rachel reeves , shadow chancellor rachel reeves, who has tried to paint herself as the new margaret thatcher. except it was margaret thatcher that dismantled the out of

control unions, not emboldened them . i'm not convinced by them. i'm not convinced by labour's claims of moderation . labour's claims of moderation. sir keir starmer is no tony blair, a man that i voted for three times, and rachel reeves is no margaret thatcher. she's more iron curtain than iron lady. there is a narrative at the moment that the tories are in disarray , and that the in disarray, and that the economy is in the toilet. well, listen, folks , i don't like listen, folks, i don't like narratives because they often don't bear scrutiny. they perpetuate myths and untruths and are leveraged for political gain. it just isn't true. the tories were in disarray until sunak. now they are not the economy was in the toilet until sunak. economy was in the toilet until sunak . now it is not. what's sunak. now it is not. what's very clear is that our toilet dwelling days will begin in earnest when starmer reaches number 10. i think this comment on twitter from the labour

supporting trade union congress is very revealing . the highly is very revealing. the highly impressive business secretary, kemi badenoch , who has sought to kemi badenoch, who has sought to make britain the home of free enterprise , investment and job enterprise, investment and job creation, said the unions want to undo all of the work that she has done well. responding on twitter , the tuc simply replied twitter, the tuc simply replied yes , that's the plan. there you yes, that's the plan. there you go folks. hiding in plain sight and saying the quiet part out loud. vote labour by all means. millions will and i understand why, but do so at your own risk. your reaction gb news. com forward slash your say. i'll get to your emails very shortly. don't forget, i'll be dealing with woke welby at 10:00 in my take at ten. but first tonight's top pundits. we have the former leader of ukip, henry bolton. i'm also delighted to welcome

political consultant emma burnell and writer and broadcaster emma webb. lovely to see all three of you here in the studio. emma burnell welcome back to mark dolan tonight. we've missed you. >> i haven't seen you for a while. it's lovely to see you again. >> it's great to have you here. >> it's great to have you here. >> britain can't afford a labour government, can it ? government, can it? >> it can't afford not to have a labour government, mark. and frankly , i mean, i'm not being frankly, i mean, i'm not being funny. i love you to bits, you know that. but i also think where's this going, emma, look, i'm old enough to remember 1997 and the narrative coming up to that all labour's going to bankrupt. it's back to the 70s. all the minimum wage will send everything down. your clothes, all the businesses. none of it happened. well, i'm essentially gordon brown bankrupted britain before the coalition took over. >> didn't he know the 2008 crash? >> but it started in the usa, a place of very low regulation, which you would, and very low union membership. these two things are not unconnected, that gordon brown actually did played a large part in the international movement to stop that going from a terrible

recession that we were all in into a, you know, an actual depression, that was an international thing. and do you know how i know that everyone accepts that now? because the people saying that most often now are the tories who keep talking about the 2008 international crisis in their own excuse for what's happening in response in the economy, in response to what's happened in ukraine. >> okay, so you're defending labour's record. what about lord mandelson's concerns about the impact on business from angela rayner's workers rights reforms? >> mandy being wrong, who would know, i've never been. >> this guy is a key figure within the labour movement. he was. he's the architect of new laboun >> he was, that was 25 years ago. no one had a smartphone. tony blair had never sent an email when he'd been elected prime minister. the world has moved on, man. >> but this is a guy that managed to sort of create a labor party that was attractive to centre ground voters. that's what keir starmer is trying to do. and he's worried about what

they're going to do to business, what they're going to do to the economy. the sunday papers today revealing the tension between angela rayner and rachel reeves over these workers reforms because rachel reeves is trying to lovebomb business and no one's buying it. emma burnell. >> well, i think they are love bombing business. and i think if you look at the polls, if you look at the number of business people who are meeting with laboun people who are meeting with labour, if you go to labour party conference and see the amount of corporate money that is going there, because they know that the labour party are close to potentially government , close to potentially government, i say a lot of people are buying it. >> mark. okay. what do you think ? emma webb, great to have you back. >> i think i'm mortified to hear that you voted for tony blair three times. it's actually i think you owe me reparations. >> i was young, i had no answer for mark. >> look , i mean, you said much >> look, i mean, you said much of it in your monologue there. i think it's going to be an absolute disaster. >> i think on zero hours contract, i to have been on zero hours contract. they're popular. >> they're fantastic for people who want to have a side hustle, getting rid of them is undermining people's freedom to

choose how they work and i think thatis choose how they work and i think that is fundamentally wrong. i think increasing red tape for businesses is just going to discourage people from being entrepreneurial, which is the last thing we need, because we have a clear malaise in this country. we want people to be creating businesses and to not be afraid that they're going to have to, you know, have to hire somebody that they then won't be able to fire. and we'll have to go through a very expensive process to then fire them. these are obviously terrible ideas. and then for the labour party to create a situation where the government will be beholden to the unions, i just think the whole thing would be a complete disaster. and if anybody thinks that it has been chaos and a complete muck up under the conservative party, i think they're going to be in for a really hard, sharp shock with a labour government because i think it could bring this country to its knees. >> henry bolton why shouldn't workers, people watching and listening to this show have enhanced rights? >> what's not to like? >> what's not to like? >> oh , what rights do they not >> oh, what rights do they not have already? and i think, well, isuppose have already? and i think, well,

i suppose there's more protection for people against being fired summarily, without without context, without justification in the we have we have protections already. >> very sick pay in the g7. yeah. >> but what you've got is to have what you've got to have is a balance between the interests of business and the economy on the one hand, and the individuals on the other. we are turning into a country where the individual is the centre of absolutely everything. there is no broader community and national interest being applied to this. and i think so we've got a problem with that. i think the other thing is, you quite rightly said in your in your introduction there in your big opinion that this is inflationary. the cost labour wants to increase nursing, increase police officers, increase police officers, increase everything. it's all very nice. thank you very much. but where's the money going to come from that you haven't told us where the money is going to come from, from, from that for that from , you've got the whole that from, you've got the whole issue with the european union, which businesses are just that do business with the european union, are just getting settled

in to a whole raft of new, new rules and regulations. now, there is no doubting in my mind, if you look at what labour is saying and has been saying for some time, they are going to move us, not back into the european union, but to closer integration in a whole range of different areas. and that means peddung different areas. and that means peddling back or on, on regulations that have already been introduced now or introducing new ones again. so the, the, the uncertainty just continues. >> it's not going to be good for individuals or for businesses. >> emma burnell briefly, i've only got a couple of seconds this controversial pledge is not on the pledge card of six pledges. >> is that because labour has pledged three times, and i'm not actually briefed by the labour party? >> but no, no, they're really strict. but but it's not on the list. it's not. >> it's not on this, okay. it's not on the pledge list. and the reason why it's not is because keir starmer knows it'll frighten the horses. >> no, it's nonsense. these are small retail policies that you can say this is a very a thing that we're going to do. do you know what wasn't on the retail policies that will lead to inflation? >> 92 unemployment pledge to

higher national debt wage. >> and we were talking about it all the way up to the election. not everything that apricot is going to do in government is part of those six promises. >> okay. brilliant. well, listen, let me tell you that mark dolan tonight is the home of diverse opinion, as you've seen from my brilliant pundits who returned shortly. >> but next up in the big story is former chancellor nadhim zahawi right that the tories made a huge mistake getting rid of boris johnson will be heading to the united states and getting the views of margaret thatcher's former top aide. that's

next. an interesting message from victor on our message board. gbnews.com forward slash. your say, mark. reform voters know full well labour will win, but they know the tories need to lose badly to have a chance of learning to be conservative again. it's time now for the big story in the former conservative chancellor nadhim zahawi has told the sunday times that the

conservatives were wrong to oust bofis conservatives were wrong to oust boris johnson. he told the paper i wish we'd held our nerve. many colleagues got spooked if colleagues got spooked if colleagues had stepped back and just realised twitter was not the country, we would probably have made a very different decision . promoting his memoirs, decision. promoting his memoirs, which are out in august, zahawi heaps praise on boris johnson, calling him the most consequential leader since margaret thatcher. well, let's speak to a man who would know. former aide to margaret thatcher, a foreign policy analyst and contributor to the telegraph niall gardner. niall, to great see you again this week. you described boris johnson's departure from number 10 as a travesty. why mark, many thanks for having me on the show today and i do think that nadhim zahawi is absolutely correct when he points out that the removal of boris johnson was ultimately disastrous. >> i think for the conservative past party, it was a travesty. i think the removal of boris, it

hasn't worked out well for the conservatives. boris is a big picture leader in many respects, a man with tremendous energy, he took, of course, the uk outside of the european union through brexit, he is somebody who i think if he was here today would be capable of leading the conservatives to victory again , conservatives to victory again, but boris is out of parliament, he removal was an act of, you know, harakiri by the conservative party. absolutely disastrous . and i think the disastrous. and i think the conservatives are facing the consequences of that, today. so i do agree with, nadeem that, the removal of boris was , was an the removal of boris was, was an absolute, travesty, a disastrous decision in so many, respects. and that that is the reality , i think. >> well, i hear what you're saying, nigel. >> and of course, if boris johnson was here and if he could keep keir starmer out of number 10, he would be serving the nafion 10, he would be serving the nation well, in my view. but your former colleague and friend, lady thatcher, was a

conservative to her core. was bofis conservative to her core. was boris really an authentic tory, given his support for draconian lockdowns, his enthusiasm for money printing and his policies on net zero? >> well, those are great points. and i, strongly, opposed boris on the net zero issue and on many other issues as well. but i think overall, if you look at boris's track record, a lot better, frankly, than, than rishi sunak, today , and i do rishi sunak, today, and i do think that if boris was still, prime minister, it would be a very different outlook, for for, the conservatives. so yeah, i absolutely disagree with, with bofis absolutely disagree with, with boris on a number of issues. but in terms of the overall, big picture, he was a firmly thatcherite , politician. he also thatcherite, politician. he also led astray, i think , on led astray, i think, on environmental issues such as, the net zero issue. and i think net zero is absolutely

catastrophic for britain. it should be thrown out of the window, and, and i do think that, boris made a big mistake in supporting, net zero. but on many other fronts, and especially on the brexit front, i think that, boris was a very strong leader. and we do owe him a debt of gratitude for ensuring that, the british people finally threw off the shackles of the european union, and that's a huge achievement. >> well, you're absolutely right . it makes him a figure of significant historic importance . significant historic importance. and we salute him for that, for defeating jeremy corbyn, for getting brexit across the line. and yes, i tend to agree. if he were here now, he would be expecting a second term in power , stay with us. let's get the views of former ukip leader henry bolton, political consultant, emma burnell and broadcaster and journalist emma webb. henry bolton, do you think the tories made a mistake? defenestrating boris johnson i absolutely do, yes. >> mark, i couldn't agree with nigel more. of course , boris's

nigel more. of course, boris's judgement in certain things, some of the policy decisions he made , certainly with hindsight, made, certainly with hindsight, certainly at the time, many of us didn't , didn't agree with us didn't, didn't agree with him. certainly with hindsight we can question them. but that's not the point. a leader of a political party indeed of the nation, needs to have character, needs to have personality , and needs to have personality, and needs to have personality, and needs to have some sort of passion. and boris had those three in spades. plus he was a conservative, unlike now the leadership of the conservative party, the conservative party was a difficult beast and has been for some time to sort of herd all the cats, if you like. but those , those cats that but those, those cats that didn't want to be herded, they acted against him. and i know what that's like. yes. you end up with with a party that, as nigel says, commits collective suicide. definitely the party might survive this . might survive this. >> still absolutely herding cats. there are definitely too many pussies in the tory party these days. emma webb like me . these days. emma webb like me. are you 50 over 50 on boris? >> i maybe not quite 5050. i

think he has flaws. i agree with nigel that he's he was he's wrong on net zero. i think he was wrong over covid lockdown policies. i don't think he handled that as well and as robustly as he should have, given all of his talk about freedom , and particularly freedom, and particularly because he was such a strong leader , as, as nana mentioned, leader, as, as nana mentioned, for brexit. so i think he does. he has that character and he's a rare specimen of a politician who is actually a good orator , who is actually a good orator, and he is a good politician, despite some of his failings and no politician is perfect. all politicians have flaws. so i'm not quite 5050. i'm a bit more positive than that about boris, but i do think that he's made some very serious mistakes, particularly over net zero and covid his departure. >> emma burnell briefly, if you can, was good news for sir keir starmer, wasn't it ? starmer, wasn't it? >> i think it was good news for the country . the mess that was, the country. the mess that was, he couldn't govern his party. ultimately he, the mass resignations that didn't come particularly over any one issue,

but came because they kept being forced onto the to media say one thing. and then immediately the line changed and they just felt like they were being taken for fools. borisjohnson like they were being taken for fools. boris johnson at his height, was marmite and he had about 40% of the country who loved him and will not change their mind. about 30% of the country who hated him would not change their mind, and he won over a great many of the 30% in the middle. and i think the sense was that that 30% shifted. and that's why he was defenestrated there you go . defenestrated there you go. >> listen, thank you for that, do stay with us, nigel, because i want to briefly ask you about joe biden. a video has emerged. you've shared it on your own twitter feed on ex joe biden applauding a call for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. let's take a look. >> it is my stance as a morehouse man. nay as a human being, to call for an immediate and a permanent ceasefire and

the gaza strip . the gaza strip. >> what does this shocking scene tell us about joe biden's mental faculties now? gardner. there he is, enthusiast, applauding the idea of an immediate ceasefire in gaza. >> yeah, i think joe biden is really out of his mind, frankly. and, he's applauding basically a pro—hamas, talking points there. and this this is a president who increasingly doesn't know what he's doing or saying, he is declining, declining of course, mentally on on multiple fronts . mentally on on multiple fronts. there are serious concerns about whether he could last another four years if he wins re—election . i do think his re—election. i do think his presidency has been an absolute disaster for the united states. i think he's the worst us president of the modern era, and he's been absolutely calamitous for, for america. and that's a that's an addition, of course, to his, his clear mental decline, which was amply on on

display , over the weekend there. display, over the weekend there. so a huge concerns here in the united states over, over joe biden's policies and also his his overall mental capacity as well, which , which is seriously well, which, which is seriously declining. >> well, i see it as a national security threat for america, which is a concern for the free world, niall, thank you so much for joining us. let's catch up forjoining us. let's catch up soon. my thanks there to contributor to the telegraph, a defence analyst and former aide to lady thatcher, nile gardiner, coming up, where am i? it's the magical disappearing tv presenter as king charles. there you go. that i learned to do that from practising all day. it's an old rolf harris trick as king no. paul daniels as king charles announces his first foreign trip following his cancer diagnosis. we'll get reaction from legendary royal author angela levin. is the king working too hard for his own good?

yes. now, king charles has

announced his first royal trip abroad since his cancer diagnosis. he'll take part in commemorations marking the 80th anniversary of d—day next month. he will travel to normandy in france for celebrations marking the landings , which took place the landings, which took place in 1944 during world war two. given his recent health concerns, there was uncertain vie about whether he would make the trip, but he will be there taking part alongside his wife queen camilla and his son, the prince of wales . let's get prince of wales. let's get reaction now from revered royal author angela levin. angela, lovely to have you in the studio with us. this can be only good news to see the king well enough to travel. >> yes, very good news. >> yes, very good news. >> two doctors signed some paperwork to say that he was well enough to go. and i think that it's also that they've realised that him and i think other people as well, need to do something they like . they want something they like. they want to have an enjoyment and that means they can get better. you can't just keep staying at home. he's used to it. he he spends,

hours and hours talking to people, and that's what he likes to do. and to shut somebody up, even though he did some work, is very hard for someone like him. so this. you've seen him? he looks so happy. he's beaming. he's friendly. he's laughing, cracking jokes all the time. and that's really what will help him get better , as well as all the get better, as well as all the things that the doctors want to give him. >> well, has he been a good patient because i understand that queen camilla has struggled to get him to slow down. i think she was quoted as saying, you know, he's doing well. if he's a good boy. yes. so the implication is he's not been a good boy and he's working too hard. >> i think she just says that. i mean, he will do anything for her because she understands him very well and he doesn't get cross with her. he can get cross, but i think that she does it with humour. i mean, i think even to see them at the garden party, camilla had a pale pink dress on and he had a pale pink waistcoat. i've never seen him anything like that . it was fun.

anything like that. it was fun. it was interesting. it was. it was a change and it was a message because he's very he's very fastidious about how he dresses. >> and there was a clear message, which is that he's acknowledging his wife. yes, absolutely. >> acknowledging his wife and also not being straight with just having grey or navy. yes. you know, it was good. and i think he's going to try very hard to make the best of his life now, and, but do be and is careful when it's necessary. >> charles will be supported by his son william in france, following all of the drama with the sussexes . the sussexes. >> it looks like these two have never been closer. >> they are very close because they've both had the very, very difficult feeling of a close friend, a close member of the family who's behaved abominably , family who's behaved abominably, and also that they have worked together about climate change and plastic and all those things. and also they've had their loved one in whatever way it works. who has been very ill

so they can really they need each other very badly. and i think that that's worked very well. >> it's wonderful to see them so close. clearly, clearly, william is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in terms of his public royal duties, but also as a son. there's an emotional support there as well, and also as a father and a husband. >> i think he's got a huge thing to do. he wants to do absolutely the maximum he can for his wife and the maximum he can for his father , and the maximum he can father, and the maximum he can for the country. so it's a real burden. but when he goes out, he seems not to show anything that's heavy and not moaning. and he does his absolute best. i think we should be very proud of him . him. >> most definitely. today marks the sixth wedding anniversary of the sixth wedding anniversary of the sussexes . what's your the sussexes. what's your appraisal of their marriage? six years on? >> haha, that's a good question. well, i think that poor harry is squashed to pieces. really. i

think when he wrote his book about the spare, he didn't think that maybe he would be a spare now and. >> oh, you think he's a spare in his own marriage? >> yes . his own marriage? >> yes. meghan pushes him, pulls him if she wants to go on. if she's bored somewhere , as we saw she's bored somewhere, as we saw with filming from africa, you know, she she pulls him away and gives him a look and he leaves immediately. he's obviously scared . i think he's very scared. i think he's very frightened of her. he loves her to pieces . he wants to please to pieces. he wants to please her. but she is a very difficult woman and so it's very hard for him. she gives a speeches . take him. she gives a speeches. take invictus games, for example. that was harry's . that was what that was harry's. that was what his star. that's what he'd done very well . and meghan's taken it very well. and meghan's taken it oven very well. and meghan's taken it over. she gives the, speeches and she stands in front of a former enemy archewell army, people who are walking , and she people who are walking, and she walks on and she gives them the marching orders.

walks on and she gives them the marching orders . well, that's marching orders. well, that's ludicrous, because she. the last time she did it, she had very , time she did it, she had very, very short shorts on and most inappropriate it. and i think that she's a very powerful woman. she has to win. and i think a lot of their trip up to, to africa was actually to prove they could be much better than they could be much better than the current royal family >> she now, is it your understanding that charles and william were furious about that trip to nigeria? because it was so much like an official royal visit, very much like an official visit? >> can i read you one sentence? harry said that make my blood went cold. he said that it is important for us to meet directly with people supporting our causes and listening in order to bring about solutions, support and positive change. now it's not his or his wife's job to bring about positive change. what does that mean ? in a way, what does that mean? in a way, it means that this won't be the first one i've done. i'm going to do lots more with my wife,

and we're going to show that we're modern. we're active, we know what we're doing, and we're much better that the people in london who are old fashioned . london who are old fashioned. and i think that, king charles and prince william know that thereafter gaining too much attention. and they need to do something about it because it was not a royal visit. it was two people who no longer working members of the royal family, and they could make deals or commit themselves to something that would absolutely be dreadful for the royal family to take, and it can put them in very difficult order. well i think one of their hosts is caught up in all sorts of legal dramas, which wouldn't have happened if it was an official royal trip because they had done their due diligence. >> that's what happens when the amateurs are in control. i've only got a couple of seconds left. one question, though, are harry and meghan not entitled to travel the world? many celebrities do, using their

platform to make a difference. >> yes, they can travel, but this was like a comic version of being royals and it was all little bits and pieces greeting party. and she was called princess and she was called queen. and you know, she smiled and you just say, don't be silly. i'm not, you know , they silly. i'm not, you know, they did it as if they were a royals. but it wasn't royals because it was very poorly thought through with the wrong clothes and the wrong attitude. angela levin, do you come back and see us again soon? >> lovely to have you in the studio looking extremely well. coming up next, should the home secretary ban the pro—palestine protests, i'll debate that with my mark meets guest, protests, i'll debate that with my mark meets guest , the man who my mark meets guest, the man who a police officer refused to allow to cross the road because he looked too overtly jewish. in a story that sparked global outrage. he joins me .

next. in just 12 minutes time. in my take at ten, archbishop justin welby weighs in on another political row . stick to weddings political row. stick to weddings and christenings. archbishop. i'll be dealing with justin welby in no uncertain terms at ten. but first, the police are set to be given new powers to shut down pro—palestinian protests, the telegraph newspaper reports. new plans to amend sections of the public order act are being considered by the home secretary, which allows processions to be banned and public assemblies to be restricted. so should we call time on these marches, which are leaving many jewish brits feeling intimidated in their own country? well, let's get the views of my mark meets guest gideon falter , the chief gideon falter, the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism and a man who was famously prohibited from crossing the road during one of those protests for looking. and i quote , overtly jewish, i quote, overtly jewish, according to a police officer , according to a police officer, mr falter, welcome to mark dolan

tonight. lovely to see you. do you think these marches. good evening sir. do you think these marches should be banned? gideon? >> i mean, these have been going on now for over seven months, and the police keep giving them these enormous two mile swathes of central london to march through. >> and at march after march, we are seeing glorification of terrorism. we are seeing rampant anti—semitism, the intimidation is palpable, so much so that the police officer who stopped me felt that it wasn't safe for me to be openly jewish in the area. and the fact is, i think we've all had enough. now, these do need to end. they need to be banned, and if they can't be banned, and if they can't be banned, then they should at least be stopped from taking so much of central london and moved out of the centre of the caphal >> and it's not only central london, is it? gideon? here is some footage i took of a protest in north london yesterday. i was astonished how many police officers were needed for such a small demonstration. there can't have been more than 100 people

protesting . but i counted about protesting. but i counted about 12 cops. this is a colossal waste of police resources, isn't it ? it? >> it's an expensive shambles. this has been going on a very long time. we know that. it's cost the met tens of millions of pounds. in fact, we think that it's cost the met approximately the amount that they are sadiq khan for. in order to try to reform to the met, take on the problem of misogyny and, and, failure to tackle , intimidation failure to tackle, intimidation of women and even rape of women by police officers. so the met are sadiq khan for i think £75 million. they were given about £50 million. we think they've spent near enough, £50 million now on policing these marches . now on policing these marches. >> yes. i don't think i'm going to win any awards for my filming skills. leave it to my guys in the gallery. but it illustrates the gallery. but it illustrates the resources that are being spent on this . how has life spent on this. how has life changed for jewish people spent on this. how has life changed forjewish people in britain since october 7? gideon.

>> it's really hard to convey quite how stark the change has been. prior to october 7th, jewish people obviously experienced anti—semitism. we saw very, very visibly the anti—semitism of the far left and islamists during the labour years . and we've also seen years. and we've also seen people who just, you know, it seems radicalised by conspiracy theory, have been saying on social media all sorts of things about jews and what they want to do to jews. but for the most part, britain has been one of the best places in the world in which to live. as a jew. and since october 7th, what we've seen is a sort of dismantling, as it were, of the veneer of safety that we feel that we have. we've seen our police forces, largely the met, failing to take any action, any any real meaningful action against anti—semitism on these marches. yes, there have been hundreds of

arrests. but just this weekend there was so much more on display that the met seemed to have done precious little about it. and what's happened is this sort of a erosion of faith in the state to take action to defend british jews. and that, i think, has led to a point now where jewish children are being told that they mustn't show the star of david on their school uniform when going to school. we've seen university students trying to hide their jewish identity on campus. trying to hide their jewish identity on campus . we've seen identity on campus. we've seen all sorts of horrendous incidents in workplaces where people are being ganged up on and suffering all sorts of abuse . and then it comes to the streets and online, which are an absolute that online has become an absolute sort of open sewer of anti—semitism. and the streets . yes, we have these streets. yes, we have these marches that go through the centre of our capital pretty much every week now, and as you saw these static protests that also sort of suddenly turn up and take over some space

somewhere or another. and on these things, you have people who are spouting things that quite clearly are glorification of terrorism, quite clearly hatred of jews and police officers just standing by and doing nothing about it. >> it's devastating. only a couple of seconds left. gideon. we'll have to get you back on one question. does israel have a case to answer for its actions in gaza ? it has a stated aim of in gaza? it has a stated aim of wiping out hamas, which strikes me as very sensible. but has it crossed the line? has it gone too far ? too far? >> well, i'm a british jew. i don't answer for the state of israel, obviously hamas is a terrorist organisation which states in its charter that part of its purpose is to annihilate jews all over the world. and so i think everybody is united with the government and with the governments of many countries in considering hamas to be a terrorist organisation . and terrorist organisation. and certainly in this country, showing support for hamas is a

crime . and we are seeing far too crime. and we are seeing far too much of that at the moment onune much of that at the moment online and on our streets. >> gideon falter, let's speak again. the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism. more power to you next up in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with woke will be. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. looking ahead, sunny spells on monday, but it is going to be turning more unsettled as we go through the week. at the moment we've got a ridge of high pressure extending out towards the west, bringing settled conditions for the rest of the evening and overnight. so looking ahead, we have got low cloud, mist and fog moving. its way in from the north sea. that will progress further inland with a bit of a breeze coming in to east anglia. further towards the west. that's where we'll see the west. that's where we'll see the clearer skies and northern

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gb news. >> good evening. how are you? it's 10:00. on television. on it's10:00. on television. on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. in my take at ten, archbishop justin welby weighs in on another political row over the

two child benefit cap. stick to weddings and christenings. archbishop. i'll be dealing with justin welby in no uncertain terms in just a moment, as he receives the backing of billionaire manchester united co—owner sir jim ratcliffe. will sir keir starmer be a better prime minister than rishi sunak ? prime minister than rishi sunak? and after an 80 year old woman is killed by a speeding cyclist and with concerns about dangerous and in considerate riders on the road, should all bicycles have insurance and a number plates, i'll be asking former government minister ann widdecombe , plus tomorrow's widdecombe, plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits . so tonight's top pundits. so a packed show, lots to get through my take on ten is all about justin welby . my take on ten is all about justin welby. he my take on ten is all about justin welby . he better say his justin welby. he better say his prayers. first up, sam francis.

>> mark, thank you very much. and good evening from the newsroom. it's 10:00 and good evening from the newsroom. it's10:00 leading the newsroom. it's10:00 leading the news tonight. a helicopter carrying iran's president and other officials has crashed in a mountainous region in the north of the country . the latest of the country. the latest footage you can see here. if you're watching on tv shows. ibrahim raeesi and his team on board that aircraft . moments board that aircraft. moments before it went down. the president was travelling in a convoy of three helicopters on the way back from a visit to a dam on the border with azerbaijan state tv is suggesting that bad weather was the cause of the incident . the cause of the incident. search and rescue teams are now working into the night to find the crash chopper, and officials on the ground say they're battling severe fog to locate the crash site. meanwhile, several countries including iraq, turkey, russia and the uae have offered their help to iran with the search and rescue operation here in the uk. the chancellor has vowed to compensate victims of the infected blood scandal with a

£10 billion package. the families of those affected have been holding a vigil this evening ahead of an independent inquiry's final report, due out tomorrow. the scandal has been the subject of the biggest ever pubuc the subject of the biggest ever public inquiry in the uk, after tens of thousands of people were infected with contaminated blood. one of those victims, joan edgington , has discussed joan edgington, has discussed the effect it's had on her. >> all have different and various physical, things, but it's the mental, it's the anguish , of what we're going anguish, of what we're going through. and that in itself is the support. if you have a, you know, the friends support , but know, the friends support, but also, as mentioned, that the red cross are there at the hearings and we can now go for counselling and a lot of people i know, go for counselling, have just, it's the uncertainty of your future , and what it's done your future, and what it's done to you, and this it it's stability of your mind in a way. >> thousands of residents in

devon who've been forced to boil their tap water before drinking it this week have been told that safe water will be running again as soon as possible. south west water have issued that update tonight on supplies in the brixham area, following a parasite outbreak. experts think the water borne disease cryptospores idiom entered a water storage tank via a damaged air pipe, causing many to get sick and have diarrhoea . the sick and have diarrhoea. the prime minister is set to warn the public about the risks of artificial intelligence. rishi sunak will tell a major tech summit in south korea that managing the risks of ai is , he managing the risks of ai is, he says, one of the most profound responsibilities faced by world leaders. the prime minister will host a virtual conference co—hosting that conference with the south korean president from london. officials in slovakia are investigating whether an attacker who shot the country's prime minister acted alone. 59 year old robert fico's condition

is no longer life threatening, though we understand it is still very serious . after he was hit very serious. after he was hit multiple times on wednesday , a multiple times on wednesday, a man has now been charged with attempting to assassinate him , attempting to assassinate him, with officials suggesting the attack was politically motivated . and finally, before we head back to mark some sports news, if you haven't heard already, manchester city players and fans are celebrating once again tonight after sealing a record fourth consecutive premier league title. they've now lifted the trophy in six of the past seven years. this time winning three one against west ham to make sure that they couldn't be caught at the top of the table. arsenal, the challengers for the trophy, had to settle for the runner up spot despite their two one victory over everton . for one victory over everton. for the latest stories sign up to gb news alerts . you can scan the qr news alerts. you can scan the qr code on your screen or go to our website gb news. common alerts .

website gb news. common alerts. >> welcome to mark dolan tonight as he receives the backing of billionaire manchester united co—owner sir jim ratcliffe. will sir keir starmer be a better prime minister than rishi sunak? and after an 80 year old woman was killed by a speeding cyclist , and with concerns about dangerous and inconsiderate riders on the road, should all bicycles have insurance and a number plate, i'll be asking former government minister ann whittaker , who, let me tell you, whittaker, who, let me tell you, only travels by car. plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits this evening, former ukip leader henry bolton, broadcaster and journalist emma webb. and last but not least, political consultant emma burnell . and in consultant emma burnell. and in the last word, before the end of the last word, before the end of the show, we'll be joined by a top fleet street insider for his take on the day's big political stories. a packed hour, those papers are coming and widdecombe waiting in the wings. but first, my take at ten. who knew that

being the archbishop of canterbury, and therefore the head of the church of england, was a role more political than prime minister? but justin welby, another prime example of the pampered, unelected, out of touch elite who have so much influence on this country , has influence on this country, has decided to weigh in on the government's two child cap on benefits. the cap was brought in by the tories as part of their efforts to reduce the welfare bill to pay for the ruinous lockdowns that i don't recall justin welby ever condemning in fact, the church of england closed its doors to parishioners dunng closed its doors to parishioners during the pandemic without protest, which i consider to be a profound sin. the two child benefit cap means that families only receive a universal credit or child tax credit payments for the first two children they have. it's a crazy idea, i know, but it might be worth mums and

dads having a think about whether they can afford a child before bringing one into the world. the country is broke again. i draw your attention to our wonderful pandemic response, where we thought we could stop a virus and the welfare bill is an eye—watering 25% of all government spending . now, in an government spending. now, in an ideal world, we would have unlimited benefits for unlimited numbers of children , and i'm numbers of children, and i'm deeply concerned about growing child poverty , which must be child poverty, which must be addressed. but on this one, even labour have accepted the money just isn't there to fund people having kids galore. it's not right to have three, four, five kids or more and expect someone else to pick up the bill. not when there is so much competition for resources in the nhs, social care, schools, policing, defence, the cost of net zero infrastructure and so on.the net zero infrastructure and so on. the archbishop didn't seem to get the memo that the country

vie has an ungodly deficit. the interest on just our debt, courtesy of dear covid, is £100 billion a year alone . the billion a year alone. the archbishop has previous on these political interventions , which political interventions, which often see him at odds with his own parishioners . for example, own parishioners. for example, he has condemned the rwanda plan without suggesting a convincing alternative . it's strange that alternative. it's strange that this leading christian should not support a policy which is expressly designed to end the humanitarian crisis, that is, those illegal crossings. look, i'm sure that he's a very nice man, but the archbishop is yet another privileged celebrity insulated from the real world consequences of his virtuous pronouncements. he's really just gary lineker in a cassock. i doubt the archbishop struggles to get a gp appointment. his accommodation is lavish and with his rwanda position, which

implies more relaxed border controls , he appears completely controls, he appears completely unaware of how small communities around the country have been impacted by thousands of people . impacted by thousands of people. accommodation accommodated in local hotels at a cost of £7 million a day, money that could and should be spent on poor brits already here who are living in grinding poverty with his many political interventions, which are catnip for guardian readers who are his real disciples , you'd think the real disciples, you'd think the archbishop would have something better to do , like comment on better to do, like comment on the huge social and moral problems facing this country, the collapse of the nuclear family, a worrying crime, excuse me, a worrying rise in crime and anti—social behaviour, an explosion in pornography and drug use in our increasingly permissive society. and you'd think the archbishop would be more focused on a growing financial crisis within his own organisation. as the church

consolidates parishes and tries to save money not helped by his decision to create a fund that will effectively pay reparations for the church's debateable links with slavery. all of this is happening whilst rome slowly burns the church of england is dying a death with its congregations dwindling, perhaps because of its leadership and being so out of touch with scores of churchgoers . in fact, scores of churchgoers. in fact, the only growth area for the church of england, church of england at the moment appears to be churning out baptisms for asylum seekers who have mysteriously and miraculously , mysteriously and miraculously, suddenly found a love for jesus. reverend matthew firth, a former pansh reverend matthew firth, a former parish priest at saint cuthbert's church in darlington, told the parliamentary home affairs select committee in march there was a conveyor belt system of baptism of asylum seekers hoping to obtain leave to remain in the uk on religious grounds . all of this is grounds. all of this is happening on welby's watch

shocked , i tell you, shocked. shocked, i tell you, shocked. whether it's slavery, immigration benefit caps and his lust for net zero, it seems the archbishop will stop at nothing to boost his woke credentials. justin welby is out of touch, out of step and out of order. may god forgive him . your may god forgive him. your reaction gbnews.com/yoursay d'orsay. i'll get to your comments shortly. but first, tonight's top pundits . former tonight's top pundits. former ukip leader henry bolton, broadcaster and journalist emma webb and political consultant emma burnell. it's double emma today. emma squared. let me start with you , emma webb. your start with you, emma webb. your reaction to this intervention from justin welby? >> oh, you said it that the leadership of the church of england have become essentially guardians as all the labour party at prayer. now, i'm an anglican. i'm a member of the church of england. i'm a regular church goer, and you mentioned

also these very, very questionable links to slavery that led to this decision . to that led to this decision. to pay that led to this decision. to pay £100 million in reparations, even though the parishes are really struggling with poverty at the moment, so i think that the arch i've said this many, many times that i think the archbishop of canterbury should resign. the whole idea of the established church , which i'm in established church, which i'm in favour of, is that they that the bishops in the house of lords, including justin welby , should including justin welby, should put forward, you know, whatever their whenever they're putting forward a proposition in politics, it should be rooted in theology. what right do people have to child benefit? it's a luxury that we have and we're very lucky to have that. but what is the theological basis of the political statements that he makes? i think actually that the archbishop of canterbury is far more concerned with political posturing than he is with religion, and that that's one of

the reasons why the church of england is falling apart. and he should be far more concerned with the death of his church than coming out and making statements that are, i think, quite partisan. >> however, henry bolton, the archbishop, is a christian and he's concerned about child poverty. so perhaps he's right to speak out if he's concerned about the way that society is treating certain, certain of its members, then in, as emma says in on a theological basis, then absolutely, he should speak out, but he's not proposing any particular solutions to a lot of the problems that we hear suffer in the united kingdom. >> here's the archbishop of canterbury, here's the head of the church of england, what about the english people who are suffering? where are his his, his his christian based theological sort of arguments for doing something about that? no, you're right, he's he's too interested in the politics. but i'm going to sort of i came to know the archbishop some years

ago a little bit. and he is you're right, a very pleasant, very nice, charming man. however, we he's made some bad decisions. a lot of that is because the church of england more broadly , a lot of the more broadly, a lot of the clergy have become politicised. it's happened with the police. it's happened with the police. it's happened with the police. it's happened to an extent, even with the armed forces . it's with the armed forces. it's happening with all of these these institutions that we rely on as a society to be rock solid and set and maintain standards , and set and maintain standards, not to, to, to, you know, wave or sway with the breeze and whatever they feel like doing at any particular time. and i think if i were to offer the archbishop some advice, it would be refind your roots , be refind your roots, archbishop, refined your theology and base what you do on that, not on the political whims of some of the people in the church. >> however, emma burnell justin welby, the archbishop, sits in the house of lords, so that would imply he's entitled to speak out on political issues .

speak out on political issues. >> yeah, look, the church has always been political. it always has been. it just hasn't always been liberally political , i grew been liberally political, i grew up in the church in the in the 80s and it, it then it was quite conservative and it was, you know, it felt very different from the values that i was growing up with in a more liberal household . it's not new liberal household. it's not new that the church split. i would like to pick you up on one factual thing from your from your speech. mark the two child benefit cap was brought in in 2017. so the idea that it was a response to covid spending would be quite, quite good foresight for a government not known for that, you know , the church, that, you know, the church, there are many, many scriptural interpretations, some of those lead to a more conservative outlook. some of them lead to a more liberal outlook, particularly on things like poverty and welfare and it will swing in different ways. people will find a congregation and a vicar with whom they feel comfortable , but it's not the comfortable, but it's not the case that the church is suddenly

political. it's the case that the church has moved from one type of politics to another, and people who are more comfortable with the former politics are less comfortable with the current church . and people who current church. and people who were more, more uncomfortable are now happier with the way that justin welby is using that power. but anyone who tries to tell you that the church, the church was established on the new testament, church was established on the new testament , the life of jesus new testament, the life of jesus christ, who was frankly, whatever else you think of him, a political activist, he was challenged being the established state. >> but people okay, that's all right. >> well, the folks so we'll return to this at 1030. no, it features in the paper. so hold that thought, emma. hold that thought. henry my pundits do return at 1030. we've got some cracking front pages to come. we'll pick up this conversation because clearly there's disagreement, which is what this show is all about. but next up, as he receives the backing of billionaire manchester united co—owner sir jim ratcliffe, will sir keir starmer be a better

prime minister than rishi sunak? also so should cyclists have insurance and number plate will be asking former government minister ann widdecombe

next. i've got some cracking messages on justin welby from your good selves. we'll do those at 1030 with the papers. but it's time now for the newsmaker . and the now for the newsmaker. and the co—owner of manchester united, sir jim ratcliffe, has said that sirjim ratcliffe, has said that sirjim ratcliffe, has said that sir keir starmer will do a very good job as prime minister if he is elected, stressing that he's willing to work with whichever party is in power. the billionaire entrepreneur said he had no questions as to whether keir starmer would be up to the job. he told sky news there's no question the tories have had a good run over the last 20 years. i think most of the country feels it's probably time for a change and i sort of get that really . sirjim also criticised really. sirjim also criticised the conservatives for their handung the conservatives for their handling of brexit and their record on immigration. so is it

time for a change? and would sir keir starmer be a better prime minister than rishi sunak ? let's minister than rishi sunak? let's speak to someone that's been at the heart of government for many years. former government minister and ex—tory mp ann whittaker, and this is quite a vote of confidence from sirjim. vote of confidence from sir jim. do you detect that the world of business now welcomes the idea of a labour government? no i suspect that what's happening is that the world of business is looking at the opinion polls and looking at the opinion polls and looking at the political temperature and has decided, as indeedit temperature and has decided, as indeed it is very obvious that keir starmer is going to beat the tories and therefore it wants to get in with keir starmer , and to actually starmer, and to actually criticise rishi sunak for immigration, which i do. but then to suggest that keir starmer will somehow handle it any better when keir starmer has no policies at all, he doesn't have policies on the boats, he doesn't have policy on legal migration, he has no policies at

all other than renaming border wall and that's about it. >> is there any sense in which sir keir starmer would be a better prime minister than rishi sunak, or the suggestion there, in what sirjim has had to say, in what sir jim has had to say, that actually it's been 14 years and the country needs a change. are you persuaded by that argument? >> no, i'm never persuaded that change is valid just for its own sake. you've got to know that you're changing for something better. frankly, if you change for keir starmer, you won't be changing for anything better. but equally, if you stay with the conservatives, you know it's not going to get any better. they're both. both sunak and starmer are as pathetic as each other. but i think particularly if you look at starmer and the way that he no sooner announces a policy, then he reverses it. charitable status for schools , charitable status for schools, the two child limit which you've referred to tonight, the 28 billion investment in green stuff , billion investment in green stuff, abolishing tuition fees, special tax for high earners.

soon as he's announced it, he changes his mind and drops it. now, you know, very few opposition leaders have quite such a record. i mean, all everybody changes their policies occasionally but have quite such a record of just consistently announcing things and then suddenly saying, oh dear, that's not such a good idea. i'd better drop it. that's not a leader. that's not a future prime minister meanwhile, the boss of iceland has also backed labour. there seems to be some momentum now. we've got the co—owner of manchester united. giving labour the thumbs up has sir jim fixed it for keir starmer? do you think this intervention will help labour win the next election ? election? >> well, the money will help laboun >> well, the money will help labour, but i don't think the intervention will help very much. i mean, as i say, the fact is people are now working out who is going to form the next government. it's much more likely to be keir starmer than it is to be rishi sunak, and therefore they're, you know, putting themselves on the winning side. it's very cynical,

but it's, you know, hardly unknown , anne, let's talk about unknown, anne, let's talk about cycling. the royal parks in london have called for a regent's park cycling route to be removed from a sports app after an 81 year old woman was killed by a speeding cyclist . killed by a speeding cyclist. another londoner was recently badly injured in a similar spot. meanwhile, a widower whose wife died after being hit by a cyclist says that he has finally won the battle after the government introduced a new cycling offence law. diana walker was on her way home from a shop in 2016 when she was knocked down by a cyclist in pewsey, wiltshire. her husband peter, has spent the last seven years campaigning for cyclists who caused death or injury to face specific charges . he said face specific charges. he said he feels relieved after the government decided to make death by dangerous cycling a serious offence . but an should the offence. but an should the authorities go further, should cyclists have insurance, and should bicycles have a licence

number plate? as with a car, no , number plate? as with a car, no, not unless you're going to restrict that to very powerful bicycles , which was the case in, bicycles, which was the case in, in the, the 81 year old woman was deliberately fast cycling , was deliberately fast cycling, and it wasn't just somebody jumping along the road trying to get to work, but no, in general, no, i mean, come on, the biggest consumers of cycling are actually children and teenagers, and, you know, most people later on graduate cars or they take the bus to work or whatever it is, because cycling is actually quite dangerous for the cyclist. so i know, what are you going to achieve ? you're going to achieve achieve? you're going to achieve achieve? you're going to achieve a vast bureaucracy. i think of that. the bureaucracy that's involved with the number of bikes in this country, all to be insured and licensed . i mean, insured and licensed. i mean, spare us, you know, what will that add to the taxes? i mean, it is a nonsense. and if you actually look at the figures for deaths, they're extremely rare . deaths, they're extremely rare. and we accept death on the

roads. and yet cycling is extremely rare, and, not only is, death by cyclist on a pedestrian rare but serious injury , is not exactly, injury, is not exactly, plentiful. i mean , happens, plentiful. i mean, happens, certainly. and it's wrong. i think the government is doing the right thing for once by addressing the law itself and saying, right, you know, if you kill on a bicycle or you seriously injure on a bicycle and you are at home, you aren't always, then , yes, you're always, then, yes, you're subject to the same penalties that drivers would be. that's sensible. but the idea of licensing and assuring every single bike in the country all sperm , the voice of common sperm, the voice of common sense, speaks again and always treat. >> look forward to seeing you in a week's time. my thanks to our newsmaker, former government minister ann widdecombe, on top form as always. next up, tomorrow's newspaper front pages with full pundit reaction and our top fleet street insider with his take on the day's big

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the moment, trudi says child benefit was paid for out of your wages, i.e. tax. i remember my mother wanted to refuse it years ago when it first came out. and how about this from penny, who says, good evening, mark. suggestion out of touch. welby, donate £100 million to uk child poverty rather than reparations. brilliant stuff. i'll get some more of your feedback shortly, but it's time now for tomorrow's papers . newspaper rescue teams papers. newspaper rescue teams for search iran president after helicopter crash. day of truth for blood scandal victims and labour plan for gender change to be made easier. labour will make it easier to change gender and is considering allowing a single family doctor to sign off on the decision. under plans to simplify the process, the party is considering how to make the legally binding certificate easier to obtain while still

having guardrails to prevent it, mirroring controversial proposals in scotland that would have removed doctors from the process altogether. the daily express least we can do apology to blood scandal victims also. congratulations man city city's big four record title wins guardian now. iranian president feared dead after helicopter crash , ex—ministers warn. crash, ex—ministers warn. tuition fees must rise urgently and four in a row. man city win the league again . the i the league again. the i newspaper now. day of truth in biggest scandal in nhs history and revolutionary i trial offers breast cancer hope for millions on the nhs , reveals rishi sunak. on the nhs, reveals rishi sunak. the pm heralds potential for artificial intelligence to improve the speed and accuracy of breast cancer detection in the uk , which could help the uk, which could help millions of women . the metro, millions of women. the metro, now formidable man city, scooped

the title and heston i'm bipolar star, chef and restaurateur heston blumenthal has been diagnosed as bipolar. daily star, fantastic four, man city are the premier league champions and now it's better. excuse me. now it's time for the better forecast . 25 degree centigrade forecast. 25 degree centigrade scorcher on the way for half term holes. hottest may in 150 years is on the cards. a lovely heat dome will cover britain for the half term holes next week, but there may be storms before then. but there may be storms before then . well, we would expect then. well, we would expect nothing else in rainy , nothing else in rainy, unpredictable britain. but you wouldn't change a thing, would you? let's get full pundit reaction now to tomorrow's front pages. former ukip leader henry bolton, broadcaster and journalist emma webb and political consultant emma burnell. lovely to have your company collectively, let's have a look at this story in the times newspaper , emma burnell

times newspaper, emma burnell labour plan for gender change to be made easier. is that entirely wise, given that nicola sturgeon's self id legislation pretty much ended her premiership? >> i mean, i'm glad that there are guardrails involved, but i have been one of the women, one of the feminist women who have, raised concerns about a lot of the discussion. i personally believe that gender is a social construct rather than something thatis construct rather than something that is innate. i believe that sex is innate, and i have long been a fighter for women's sex based rights, i'd like to see what the guardrails are. it should involve things like, prisons, hospital wards and sports being divided by sex, not genden sports being divided by sex, not gender, other than that, if, however , people wish to identify however, people wish to identify them as keir starmer. >> yeah. counselling you? >> yeah. counselling you? >> i'm so sorry. >> he's not happy. you know, he reckons you've got a cervix, but

you might not be a woman. >> i do have a cervix, but other than. other than that, however you wish to dress, talk about yourself, think about yourself. that's up to you. yeah, it's where these guardrails lie in terms of public policy that i care about. >> crazy question though, emma. shouldn't it be harder to transition ? not easier, given transition? not easier, given how life changing it is? >> again, it depends what you mean by transition. i'd like to see a world in which whatever you wear, whatever you look like, doesn't matter . and we are like, doesn't matter. and we are not talking. >> that means that you don't really want people to be able to transition well, transition again speaks formally and officially. >> what i'm saying to you is transition again speaks to this gender thing that is a social construct rather than sex. >> i agree with you. >> i agree with you. >> i agree with you. >> i don't believe you can change your physical and biological sex. i believe you can live your life happily and comfortably in a skirt or a pair of trousers with lipstick, without lipstick. whoever you are. and that shouldn't matter. but if you say i am a woman, i

will politely treat you in that as that. in most circumstances, unless you commit a crime and are going to prison, or unless you're trying to compete against people in women's sports and unless you are on somewhere where women's privacy is, and safety and dignity is at risk. yes. >> you don't think that they'll come to other planets in a moment, but you don't think that a trans woman, which is a biological male, identifying as female, should be recognised legally as a woman in this country? is that your position? >> i think that the there should be safeguards within legal recognition. so you should be able you shouldn't be discriminated against at work if you're if you're a trans woman, you're if you're a trans woman, you shouldn't be discriminated against in retail services. any of those things where i think there should be legal safeguards is around safe spaces for women , is around safe spaces for women, women's sports and women's prisons. >> okay, henry bolton, those trousers are very tight. how do you identify this evening as a former ukip leader and the president of the primrose league? >> well, in that case, you're

living in a dreamland. fine. gentlemen, too . gentlemen, too. >> well, what do you make of this? i mean, i'm amazed that labour are opening this can of worms. given how bad it was for the snp. >> i think it's totally unnecessary, isn't it? for them, politically, it's. it's a minefield that they they don't need to be entering. but as much as they have done now, look, the issue of the whole transgender discussion has gone way off base.i discussion has gone way off base. i think, if, as emma emma burnell quite rightly says , emma burnell quite rightly says, emma square tonight we tried to get emma bunton , by the way. emma bunton, by the way. >> then you'd have two mobs be in real trouble . you're not so in real trouble. you're not so much baby spice as old spice . much baby spice as old spice. >> you know, i thought i could almost take that as a compliment. >> oh, you said you said, i'm lost now. she's flirting with me. you think you know you think it's crazy that labour have opened this can of worms? you. you said the trans gone off base. >> off base. because. look, if there are very good, very , the there are very good, very, the explored medical and

psychological reasons why somebody needs the support of the british medical institution , the british medical institution, the british medical institution, the nhs, then fine. and then, then then support them if they want to dress differently, fine. but look, when we are now, when we take that further and we say that a man in women's clothing can go into a woman's changing room or something or participate in, in female sport , have we in, in female sport, have we really utterly lost the plot and isn't labour actually going down that road? and why ? i don't know that road? and why? i don't know why except that they either they're internal sort of activists or people that they feel beholden to politically are demanding that that's the route they go down. there is no good reason for this. socially, it is destructive if it breaks down social norms of behaviour that have evolved over over millennia to create stable societies. it's how human beings cooperate

together by understanding each other. if you are going to take it off base like that, then i think you are fundamentally undermining the cohesion of society and destabilising it. and i think it's putting placing women at danger. emma webb, labour would argue that what they want to do is , is to they want to do is, is to support people who have gender dysphoria , who feel it's a dysphoria, who feel it's a recognised condition, they feel that they are born in the wrong body. >> they might be male, they identify as female, and it's making sure that they are protected, that they're safe, that they receive the health care they need. and the legal protection. >> i think it's misplaced, fashionable compassion. we saw this big expose recently showing how utterly experimental this kind of medicine is when it comes to transitioning, particularly young people. acas review. and we've seen leaps and bounds, i think, in terms of the government's response to this, in making sure that young people can't medically transition. and i think that we've turned a

corner actually on this issue. and i think this would be not only going backwards, but i think it would be politically disastrous for the labour party, because i think that this is going to be the scandal of a generation that young people in particular have been, taking, puberty blockers to their the detriment of their health, effectively sterilising themselves, and in particular, themselves, and in particular, the young gay people are being led down a path of medical transition . so if labour want to transition. so if labour want to be compassionate, they should be compassionate in in a real way. i think, rather than this kind of faux fashionable compassion, of faux fashionable compassion, of just simply siding with what the loudest activists . the loudest activists. >> and it's also not very compassionate if it hurts a large group in society , which large group in society, which is, well, it hurts society and it hurts. >> it hurts individuals. and in particular, for all the reasons that you say, i think yours is a very reasonable position, though i don't necessarily agree entirely, it hurts women. >> women? go on henry. >> women? go on henry. >> it's a creeping thing as well where do you draw the line? where does society say this is

enough ? look, there's a boiled enough? look, there's a boiled frog sort of analogy of that you could employ. you know, society becomes sort of immune to this sort of discussion and then goes another step and then another step . and where do we actually step. and where do we actually where does this end? i it's very worrying. >> most definitely. we're going to go back if we've got time to our conversation about justin welby. that was the topic of my take at ten. jane has said you can have more children , but you can have more children, but you should pay for them. of course, welby has said that the government should get rid of the two child cap on child benefit . two child cap on child benefit. child benefit was capped as some families made it a job, having more children and then not having enough bedrooms for them . having enough bedrooms for them. all. uncapping child benefit will make housing problems even worse, says jane. keep that feedback coming. but next up, more from tomorrow's papers and foreign secretary david cameron this week faces an almighty brexit row over sovereignty. find out more with our top fleet street insider

next. and more. front pages. we'll start with the independents and tainted blood victims demand action as payouts to top £10 billion and the telegraph. pm's horror and regrets over blood scandal. the prime minister rishi sunak, will apologise to the victims this week, likely tomorrow. we're expecting him to actually apologise for what has happened, details of this . tens happened, details of this. tens of thousands of people were infected with hiv and hepatitis c by contaminated blood products such as medicines and transfusions that were used in the nhs between the 1970s and the nhs between the 1970s and the early 1990s. an estimated 3000 people have died as a result, while those who survived have had to live with lifelong health implications . okay, let's

health implications. okay, let's get reaction to that story and a major exclusive in the independent with their political edhon independent with their political editor, david maddox. david great to have you on the show. first of all, a quick word on the victims of the tainted blood scandal . justice awaits. better scandal. justice awaits. better late than never . late than never. >> yes, but it's very, very, very late. it's i mean, the original thing was an appalling scandal anyway. but the way, you know, people have been affected with hepatitis c and, and hiv , with hepatitis c and, and hiv, many have died as a result of this. families have been left bereft and, terrible , terrible bereft and, terrible, terrible stories. and, but then there was a second scandal. but it has taken years and years, decades to get the, compensation and the help in place, that is needed. and, yes, today it came out that it's going to be 10 billion, £10

billion and more probably , to billion and more probably, to clear up this awful mess , but clear up this awful mess, but the real tragedy is that the families and the victims have had to wait so long for anything to happen for them . to happen for them. >> another cracking exclusive on your part as the brand new political editor of the independent newspaper here. what a cracking story this is. brexit row erupts over control of gibraltar's border . what's going gibraltar's border. what's going on, david? >> well, tomorrow there's a big showdown in parliament with the european scrutiny committee, chaired by sir bill cash and lord cameron, the foreign secretary . and really it's all secretary. and really it's all about the future of gibraltar, and, genuine fear that, we're about to hand over sovereignty to or part of the sovereignty of gibraltar to the european union or even the spanish , or even the spanish, potentially, if the two can be separated, even so, it's, you know, the effects of this treaty

could mean that brits could be blocked from going on to british sovereign territory , travelling sovereign territory, travelling from britain, you know, not even going for a european union . and going for a european union. and it's, because you'd have european union, frontex border guards, potentially , guarding guards, potentially, guarding the airport, gibraltar would the added complication that the airport in gibraltar is actually an raf base. so it's, you know, we're effectively potentially handing over part of our military assets to a foreign power. and it's a dreadful, dreadful mess, which , you know, dreadful mess, which, you know, there's going to be a bit of a row tomorrow and it's, it's going to be interesting watching. well, indeed. >> and i think it's possible that gibraltar could become part of the schengen area. it is a disaster, a car crash in slow motion , do you think that the motion, do you think that the government can rescue this situation? can they can they avert disaster here? >> well, they could actually, but they just need to dig their

heels in, and the trouble is the scepticism about this is comes from northern ireland, where the government singularly failed to dig their heels in and went with the european union's preferred option. and, you know, it looks like the same could happen with, gibraltar largely because the gibraltar, the gibraltar's ourselves, i think, would like to be in schengen because it'd be useful for them for goods, for free travel, and there's a, there's some really competing interests, but , there's some really competing interests, but, as one mp was saying to me, just just earlier , saying to me, just just earlier, you know, in the end, gibraltar is a military base. it's a british military base. that's its purpose. there's no other sovereignty on gibraltar, just that it's a british military base. that it's a british military base . and really, the government base. and really, the government has got to dig in on this and, and not and not hand over control potentially of an important military asset to the european union, but most definitely from the other

perspective of, i'm afraid, you know, from the independent perspective , you know, this is perspective, you know, this is it was an inevitable problem of brexit, i'm afraid, which were, you know , along with northern you know, along with northern ireland, the execution of which has been a botch job. >> let's bring my pundits in. if we can. former ukip leader henry bolton, broadcaster and journalist emma webb, and political consultant emma burnell henry. would you like to sort of chip in on this one? you were a long standing brexiteer. are you shocked by what's happening in gibraltar? >> i'm shocked at the position of david cameron. if indeed these these rumours are true and there's been they've been so persistent that i can't believe that there is not something in them. if the foreign secretary is about to sign over a degree of sovereignty of gibraltar to spain or the european union, or both, then i think it is nothing much short of treasonous . and much short of treasonous. and the idea and david quite rightly says, of course , for the says, of course, for the gibraltarians there's a who had

a referendum on this matter. actually, i think it was in 2002. they had a 100% turnout and 98.1, i think, voted against the concept or the principle of shared sovereignty. but if i can understand that from practical, for practical purposes, they might want to be part of the schengen or have some arrangement . look, there is arrangement. look, there is i held the portfolio for civilian border management for the european union for three years in brussels, for the european commission and i can tell you from direct authority from having held that position, that if the eu wants to make a bespoke arrangement for gibraltar of that sort, it can do so. there is no if and no but and for the british government to roll over and die because the eu makes certain demands is a would be an appalling abrogation of its duties towards gibraltar. the gibraltarians and i think great britain, given the, as david quite rightly points out, the military implications of this , particularly what's going this, particularly what's going on at the other end of the

mediterranean and the importance of gibraltar in that that respect and if you do it with gibraltar, where are you going with the falklands? where are you going with the sovereign bases on on cyprus? this is david cameron at his very worst. >> okay, can i ask you, david maddox briefly if you can, sir jim ratcliffe, the co—owner of manchester united , has given his manchester united, has given his backing to sir keir starmer to be a good prime minister. he said i hear what everyone's saying, it's time for a change and they're probably right . it and they're probably right. it is labour now an unstoppable political force , it certainly political force, it certainly feels like that. and when people like sir jim ratcliffe feels like that. and when people like sirjim ratcliffe give their support, it's because they can see the writing on the wall generally. and, we had a couple of businessmen , last week giving of businessmen, last week giving their support to labour, who had previously been conservative supporters. they can see what's going to happen, the polls are not lying. i'm afraid . and, emma

not lying. i'm afraid. and, emma webb, what do you think ? webb, what do you think? >> i mean, we're always, you know, kicking ourselves when we listen to polls after brexit. donald trump's victory, 2019 bofis donald trump's victory, 2019 boris johnson. very often events defy the polls. what do you think ? think? >> i think in this instance it's very i mean, it's difficult to say because yes, polls are unreliable . jul, say because yes, polls are unreliable .jul, but i think any unreliable. jul, but i think any way after the amount of time that we've had a conservative government, it would be surprising if we didn't see the opposition, taking the next government, but also, they've done so appallingly badly in betraying the 2019 vote that i think probably the polls are fairly accurate, but there is no real way of knowing. obviously emma, you're happy a labour government is coming, isn't it, it does feel that way, obviously. no complacency . obviously. no complacency. that's the watchword, labour will be fighting for every vote, but i think, it's not just polls, it's things like the local elections this year. last year there does seem to be both

a shift in the national mood overall . but also labour's vote overall. but also labour's vote has become much , much more has become much, much more efficient. there you go. >> all right. well, listen, it's all happy in the world of red votes. >> my thanks to emma henry and emma. i'm back on friday at eight. headliners is next. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. looking ahead, sunny spells on monday, but it is going to be turning more unsettled as we go through the week . at the moment we've got week. at the moment we've got a ridge of high pressure extending out towards the west, bringing settled conditions for the rest of this evening and overnight. so looking ahead, we have got low cloud, mist and fog moving its way in from the north sea. that will progress further inland with a bit of a breeze coming into east anglia. further towards the west. that's where we'll see the clearest skies and

northern ireland may see some mist and fog developing. chilly underneath the clear skies but elsewhere holding up at around 10 or 11 degrees. so quite a murky start out there for many of us to start monday morning . of us to start monday morning. best of the sunshine. first thing is going to be across western parts, so even into western parts, so even into western scotland. but holding on to some sea fog and low cloud, the further east you go, like i said, some low cloud, mist and fog across northern ireland that will gradually lift and break, and then bright skies across the west. but low cloud lingering through the morning. but as we go through the rest of the morning, that low cloud should start to lift. break melt its way back towards coastal areas. maybe taking a bit of time to do so, but elsewhere turning dry. plenty of sunshine on offer. we will still see a few showers breaking out, especially across parts of western northern ireland. some of these could be heavy at times and potentially even northern parts of wales,

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news. >> very good evening to you. you're watching and listening to gb news. i'm sam francis. the headunes gb news. i'm sam francis. the headlines at 11, a helicopter carrying iran's president and other officials has crashed in a mountainous region in the north

of the country. the latest footage shows ebrahim raisi and his team on board the aircraft before it went down. the president was travelling in a convoy of three helicopters on the way back from a visit to the border with azerbaijan state tv is suggesting that bad weather was the cause of the accident. search and rescue teams are now working into the night to find the crash chopper . officials on the crash chopper. officials on the crash chopper. officials on the ground say they're now battling severe fog to locate the crash site. meanwhile, several countries, including iraq, turkey, russia and the uae have offered to help iran with their search and rescue operation . here in the uk, the operation. here in the uk, the chancellor has vowed to compensate victims of the infected blood scandal with a £10 billion package. the families of those affected have been holding a vigil this evening ahead of an independent inquiry's final report, due out tomorrow. the scandal has been the subject of the biggest ever pubuc the subject of the biggest ever public inquiry in the uk , after public inquiry in the uk, after tens of thousands of people were infected with contaminated blood. one of the victims, joan

edgington, has discussed the