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but i wonder now that you've slept on yesterday's shock . what slept on yesterday's shock. what are your thoughts on it all today? they're all a load of . today? they're all a load of. dad, what have i told you about speaking to the cameras? no more please. but the big news of the day, nigel farage says that he is not going to stand in the election. what do you think to that ? also out today, the
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that? also out today, the immigration figures show that net migration into the country of at least 685,000 people last year. of at least 685,000 people last year . your thoughts on that one? year. your thoughts on that one? and i've got to say something that didn't get much attention yesterday was the launch of a new government, a government strategy, wanting us all to become preppers, to get ready for an emergency. do you become preppers, to get ready for an emergency . do you take for an emergency. do you take nofice for an emergency. do you take notice of this stuff or not? and so many people have had an absolute field day today with the pictures of a soaking wet rishi sunak. so i'm wondering what has been your most memorable political gaffe ? we've memorable political gaffe? we've got it all to come and more. but before we get stuck in, let's cross live for tonight's latest news headlines. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the prime minister says voters should back him if they want the rwanda deportation scheme to succeed. but concedes flights won't get off the ground before the
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general election . rishi sunak general election. rishi sunak also says he's putting the economy and global security at the heart of his campaign. it comes as political party leaders begin six weeks of trying to win votes after it was announced. polls will open on the 4th of july. the timing of the announcement came as a surprise to some, with labour polling 20 points ahead, kicking off the conservatives campaign this morning, rishi sunak claimed labour would do absolutely nothing to stop the boats. >> everyone else is starting to agree with my approach, which is bold. the one person that doesn't is keir starmer. bold. the one person that doesn't is keir starmer . that's doesn't is keir starmer. that's a choice at this election. he thinks that we should just offer an amnesty to illegal migrants to make us the soft touch of europe. it would make us a magnet for thousands of migrants coming from everywhere. so that's the choice at this election. do you think my plan is the right one? do you think i'm the one that's taking bold action to secure our borders to and stop the boats? or do you think he's going to do that? and it's pretty clear that on this issue, not only does he not share the country's values, that it's a problem. he's going to do
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absolutely nothing about it. >> and starting his election campaign in south—east england, labour leader sir keir starmer says that what the conservatives have done to the country is unforgivable and voters don't need to put up with it. >> rishi sunak clearly does not believe in his rwanda plan. i think that's been clear from this morning, because he's not going to get any flights off. i think that tells its own story. i don't think he's ever believed that plan is going to work. and so he's called an election early enough to have it not tested before the election . we have to before the election. we have to deal with the terrible loss of control of the border under this government. we have to tackle the small boats that are coming across. nobody but nobody should be making that journey . be making that journey. >> meanwhile, lib dems leader sir ed davey says the conservatives are out of touch for far too long, people across the united kingdom have been let down and taken for granted by this conservative government and this conservative government and this out of touch conservative
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party. >> but with this election, we have the chance to win the change our country so desperately needs in scotland. >> first ministerjohn swinney says most voters want to see the back of what he called the disastrous conservative government >> that never has a government deserved to lose more than rishi sunak's government. you want higher living standards and a fairer country where everyone can lead secure, happy, healthy lives . you want a national lives. you want a national health service you can rely upon . most of you think that brexit was a terrible mistake . you do was a terrible mistake. you do not think westminster works for scotland and you want scotland to have a strong voice . all of to have a strong voice. all of those things sum up what i am about. >> police scotland has confirmed it submitted a report to the prosecution service in relation to former snp chief executive
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peter murrell. the husband of former first minister nicola sturgeon was charged in connection with the embezzlement of party funds last month . the of party funds last month. the force went on to say it's unable to comment further as the investigation continues. the prosecution service have responded, saying connected investigations of two other individuals, a man aged 72 and a 53 year old woman remain ongoing. a 64 year old man has been charged with assisting the russian intelligence service. howard phillips has been remanded in custody after a counter—terrorism investigation into suspected offences under the national security act. he's expected to appear at westminster magistrates court later today . a man has been later today. a man has been jailed for life, with a minimum term of 32 years for a series of attacks in south london. mohamed noor targeted strangers using a makeshift blade to kill johanniter dogbe in brixton in may of last year. she was
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attacked from behind while walking alone during the day. noor cut her throat and she died at the scene. the 34 year old was also found guilty of three other slash attacks two days before her death , and a record before her death, and a record of a number of more than 68,500 people were granted refugee status or other types of leave to remain in the year to march, home office figures show. that's the highest number of any 12 month period since records began . meanwhile, the total asylum backlog still stands at more than 100,000. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. comments now it's back to . michelle. >> thank you very much for that. i am michelle jubran. i'm keeping you company till 7:00 tonight alongside me, my panel, i've got the former editor of
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the sun, kelvin mackenzie, and the director of the charity charity world. right. kerry dingle. amid up a new word then? yeah, a charity. i don't know what that is. anyway, you are both very welcome this evening, as are you guys at home? very much so. what's on your mind tonight? you can get in touch with me all the usual ways. you can email gb views @gbnews. com you can go to the website gbnews.com/yoursay there's lots of you on there already tonight. i love it. you talk not just to me but to each other and of course you can tweet or text me. i've got a poll running on twitter, i'm asking you whether or not you think . did you see or not you think. did you see the announcement about nigel farage not standing ? i'm farage not standing? i'm pondenng farage not standing? i'm pondering whether or not you think that is the right decision or not. there's lots of conversation already on the website about that, and some very strong opinions in different sides of the fence . i different sides of the fence. i can tell you that. i'll come on to that very soon. but of course , the starting pistols have now, it was fired yesterday and people have gone straight out of
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those blocks. i can tell you there's been a lot of activity happening today. let me cross live to our political correspondent, katherine forster. she is live in westminster. it's been a very busy day. bring my listeners and viewers up to speed with the twists and turns of it. catherine >> yes? good evening michelle. well, only 25 hours since rishi sunak stood in the pouring rain with things can only get better blaring from the end of downing street. and he has been on a whirlwind trip. last night he was in east london. this morning he was in derby. at lunchtime he was in cardiff. he is now in scotland, getting all across the uk. his central message you're going to hear it again and again and again . the world is and again. the world is a dangerous place. stick with the plan . don't go back to square plan. don't go back to square one. he's wanting people to think better. the devil you know with all their problems, keir starmer, he was in kent at a football ground, got very slick
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videos going, talking about working class background. his central message is change. they're saying stop the chaos, it's they're saying stop the chaos, wsfime they're saying stop the chaos, it's time for change. they're saying they can rebuild a better britain. now the lib dems have beenin britain. now the lib dems have been in cheltenham and the reform party really interesting this. now they launched in westminster. but the big news of course , was that nigel farage course, was that nigel farage has made the decision that he will not stand, he will not lead the reform party, he will not stand as a potential mp. he wants to be available to help donald trump in the united states , although he does say states, although he does say that over the next six weeks he's going to be out and about campaigning to help richard tice. now, i think despite the fact that many conservatives were beyond horrified, frankly , were beyond horrified, frankly, when rishi sunak called this election yesterday, they'll be breathing a bit of a sigh of relief that nigel farage is not going to be leading reform. and let's see how much of a role he
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actually takes. >> yeah. and i've got to say as well, i've been seeing letter after letter from mps saying that they're not going to stand in the next election. there's quite a few vacant seats that need candidates filling on all sides , actually, not just on the sides, actually, not just on the labour side. tell us more about that. >> yes, there are, there's well over 100 constituencies. conservative constituencies that have not got their candidate selected yet, quite a really. and hugh merriman, rail minister, just the latest conservative mp this afternoon to say he is not going to stand again . of course we've had again. of course we've had dozens and dozens. there may well be more, but these mps that only a couple of days ago thought this was a call they might make in the autumn , might make in the autumn, assuming that the election would be in november , are now going to be in november, are now going to have to make decisions much, much quicker. now the reform
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party say that they are standing in, i think, 630 of 650 constituencies, i believe they've got plenty of people to still to select . and there will still to select. and there will be many with labour too. and also diane abbott remember her? she was suspended from labour over a year ago over a piece that she wrote that was judged to be anti—semitic. there's been an internal investigation going on into her. well, they're going to have to make a decision pretty quickly on whether to let her back into the labour party, certainly. >> and also, i noticed yesterday , christopher hope, our political editor, he was picking up on some rumours that there was a little bit of, plotting going on, potentially , and going on, potentially, and people in the tory party not willing to accept that decision that was made by rishi sunak. did anything come of that today or not? >> not at the moment, but it is worth saying the conservative party is deeply fractious at the best of times, and i think controlling them or having any
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semblance of control over them was becoming increasingly difficult for rishi sunak. i suspect that that probably also played a part into why he's decided to go now. now, of course , no one knows the number course, no one knows the number of letters that have gone into sir graham brady except sir graham brady. but yeah, a lot of speculation and that there could be an attempt to stop this general election . i have to say general election. i have to say i think it's very, very unlikely. but then i also have to say i didn't think we'd have a prime minister that only lasted seven weeks, and i didn't think they'd get rid of boris johnson, who got them an 80 seat majority. so, hey, what do i know? >> stranger things have happened. there's never a dull day in politics, is there? catherine, thank you very much for bringing us up to speed. i want to come back to that nigel farage thing after the break, because that has really got a lot of you talking at home. so get your thoughts in on that one. get over to the twitter or the ex poll and let me know your thoughts on that one. but more broadly, i mean, were you shocked by what happened
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yesterday? kelvin. >> yeah, i thought it was appalling. i thought it was quite wrong and right. so obviously i'm a i'm on the right. you're not. i you have hit that a second. >> you have hit that so. well i thought you was here to cheer on the labour party. they are bookings crossed. sorry. go on. >> you're on the right. they had to build a brick wall to stop me going further, right? no, so i was. i was amazed about it. it made me wonder. being a natural conspiracy theorist, about what is it? he knows that is coming down the pike, that we don't know. it made me feel very uneasy about the running of the country. it was a it was a poor speech. it was a poor speech that had been put together, you would have thought that among the many things that they plotted about was, what does the weather look like? right? why don't you try and make yourself look as grand as you possibly can? all right. it'll all disappear in the six weeks, there was a series of things that i thought were massively, massively wrong. and he may think he's clever by being able to keep this a secret, because
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that was it. caught everybody out, you know, cabinet members as well as parliamentary as well as well as parliamentary as well as anybody in in the media. right. | as anybody in in the media. right. i think he was he's a fool, an absolute fool. and were it not for the fact that i am massively disappointed on the farage issue, i would be seriously worried about where i was going to put my cross come july the 4th. >> that is interesting stuff and you do seem quite angry about it. >> i it.- >> i am, i'm it. >> i am, i'm furious about it and it really made me wonder about what the state of this country is, where a prime minister keeps it so secret and in an odd way, seems to enjoy it. and then clearly that was a dreadful speech after all. starmer, who normally, you know, you know, your blood pressure is the biggest thing that happens in his day, right? even he managed to put together a better speech at no notice . and you've speech at no notice. and you've got to believe that sunak at least had had 2 or 3 days a week or even ten days when he knew he was going to do it. no, this was
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a shocker from the sunak, honestly. >> blimey. so kevin's not happy. what about you, kerry? >> well, i think election couldn't come soon enough, only because i think, the conservative us need a good kicking. and so as far as i'm concerned and, you know, he wasn't he wasn't elected as prime minister. and so i'm glad it happened. i have to say that i felt sorry for him. yes. it's the first time i've ever felt sorry for him. stood there in the pouring rain. i mean, it was pathetic. and it. i unbelievable that nobody could just hand him an umbrella. what what is this? but again, this is sunak and his party treating people with contempt . he was treating his contempt. he was treating his own members with contempt by not discussing it with them. but at least there's an election and i will use my protest vote or rip up my ballot paper. >> but i just want to like when you say, oh, he wasn't elected and all the rest of it, that is the system in this country.
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whether you like that or not, people will be shouting at their screen while saying, well, what about brown? he got into a position in the same way that is just the system. so it's not his fault that he wasn't the one on the ballot paper, and then when you say as well about this rain, because lots of people that are not sympathetic to the tories, i've been hearing them say today as well, or we have felt a bit sorry for him. i felt a bit sorry for him. i felt a bit sorry for him. and then you remember that millions of pounds was spent on a so—called media room during the pandemic, which is of course, indoors. then you think to yourself, there you go. look, if you've not seen him wet through, i don't know where you've been. quite frankly, but there he is. for me, it's the moment when he turns around and you see his back. he's back? absolutely he absolutely dripping. dripping wet. but i heard him this morning and he was asked about this, and he was asked about, you know, your brolly or whatever. and he was saying, you know, i made the decision to , go out there decision to, go out there knowing, knowing it was raining because that is britain. it rains and we're stoic and we get on with it and i'm not a fair weather prime minister. >> yeah , well, it it's just
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>> yeah, well, it it's just soundees >> yeah, well, it it's just soundbites turning everything into, you know, i'm so tough. i just think insofar as he's tough, he's authoritarian because he's contemptuous of most working class people . and most working class people. and in terms of doing anything, he's hopeless . hopeless. >> do you look on the question of the rain? honestly, if you get given the choice in our country between shall i, shall i, shall i deliver this in the rain, or shall i deliver it in the dry? surely anybody with brains will say, i tell you what, do it in the dry, because that's what normal people would do. i agree with the wally with the brolly problem for him. that's why he didn't have a didn't have a brolly. i just, it just, it just indicated to me that a whole thing something as important as the general election was being done on the hoof and that's what i really objected to. >> but do you think it was done on the hoof, though, because many people will say, this is planned and we'll come on to nigel farage in a minute. don't worry. hold your horses, everyone, because i know that honestly, my inbox and it's like, it's just it's ching ching
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ching. it'sjust like, it's just it's ching ching ching. it's just absolutely full of people wanting to talk about nigel farage. don't you worry. i shall come on to that young man, in a few minutes. but do you honestly think this was just a, you know, on the hoof? you know, no planning, no thought process? >> no, no, i don't think that. i don't think that, but but i'm talking about how it played out, how it played out. now when you say how quickly, they obviously were waiting to look at numbers, they were looking at waiting for they were looking at waiting for the inflation numbers, and they were hoping that there were some other good news. why are we doing this? in july ? that would doing this? in july? that would be my question, right? if sunak we're here, i said, i want a detailed explanation of why you are doing it now rather than the opportunity. for instance, the reduction of interest rates, which will help , you know, which will help, you know, millions of people with their mortgages and, and potentially the knock on effect of rents and that kind of stuff. why have you chosen it now? what it explain to me the real detail of this and the answer to that may well be there are a series of things that are going to happen which will make life uncomfortable.
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and one of the ones that they didn't, that nobody has talked aboutis didn't, that nobody has talked about is the fact that there is now no spare money, because the interest rates have stayed high. the money we have to pay back to our bankers because of the 400 billion we borrowed, borrowed dunng billion we borrowed, borrowed during covid means that we have no money, not only not to reduce ni can't reduce taxes and that may be the reason. but if that is the reason, then he should tell us. it strikes me as though there is a form of secrecy within secrecy and the upsets me. >> i think that's very conspiratorial though. callum i mean, you might be right, but that all that you're saying really is he's jumped ship. yes, he's jumped ship, i am and that may be true, but i don't know that it's because there's, you know, crystal ball gazing. he knows there's some other horror around the corner. >> well, there's a lot of people, i've seen you all writing in saying. michelle, i think he's got a job in california or something. and you reckon that he's all ready to go over there? he would obviously argue rishi sunak. he's been doing the rounds today. he would obviously argue that he's got this plan in place. he'll talk
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about things like inflation, but actually inflation. yesterday it wasn't as low as predicted actually . so it wasn't it might actually. so it wasn't it might seem like a kind of good news story, but it was certainly expected and wanted to be slightly .lowerthan that. and of slightly .lower than that. and of course, many people, they haven't actually felt that trickle through yet to our pockets. of course, you're going to find a situation and we'll come on to immigration as well, where when it comes to the boat crossings , you're going to have crossings, you're going to have the situation. hopefully the sun is going to start shining these crossings 10,000 or thereabouts already this year. that number is going to start increasing, and then you're going to be faced with this situation, which is the labour party. they're going to rip up that rwanda plan. he will be able to stand on that podium and say, look at these crossings . my party on that podium and say, look at these crossings. my party is on that podium and say, look at these crossings . my party is the these crossings. my party is the only one that's going to be able to put a stop to it. is that a smart, thought process? lots of you're getting in touch about the absolute pillock steve bray as well about him playing that music . many as well about him playing that music. many of you still very furious about that today. you think the police should have arrested him and carted him off for making a mockery of that
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speech with the music that things can only get better? look, keep your thoughts coming in after the break. of course , i in after the break. of course, i want to talk about nigel farage and his decision also as well. net migration into this country, a massive figure. but the tories will say, hold on a minute. it was down well, do you mate at all? see you in two.
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hello there. i'm michelle dewberry , and i'm with you till dewberry, and i'm with you till 7:00 tonight. alongside me. i've got my panel. kelvin mackenzie remains , as does kerry dingle. remains, as does kerry dingle. welcome back. everybody i was asking you to reflect on the situation you've slept on it now. do you think that, july the fourth was a right move from rishi sunak or not? very strong opinions, i can tell you from the panel. and i played a clip for you at the top of the programme, let me just remind you about what this particular voter, he had to say when he was
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asked about his thoughts. >> they're all a load of . >> they're all a load of. >> they're all a load of. >> that really, really, really made me laugh because you might remember last night i ran a poll, didn't i, saying, do you support july? the fourth? was it right? was it wrong, or quite frankly, could you not care less? you've lost the will to live. and that's a third option. was the one that won out, i can tell you. right. there's been so many people speculating on nigel farage what is he going to do? is he going to stand? is he not going to stand, lots of conversations about the impact of his decision. well, worry no longer everybody, because nigel farage this morning he announced his intention with a letter. i can bring that letter up for you now. but long story short , he now. but long story short, he basically said that no, he will not be standing at the next general election. he said he's put a lot of thought into it, and ultimately, yes, he backs reform. uk's fully supportive of that party and wants viewers to, of course, put their trust in
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richard tice and lee anderson, but he goes on to say , it's not but he goes on to say, it's not the right time for him to go any further than that. he says , the further than that. he says, the general election in the uk is important, but the contest in the united states of america, obviously in november is huge global significance. a strong america, he says, is as a close ally, is vital for peace and security. and he intends to help with a grassroots campaign there. what do you think of this? >> so i've been friendly with nigel farage now for the thick end of 30 years. yeah i gave him his first radio gig when i, when i ran a radio company , i think i ran a radio company, i think he's made a serious error. i think it's a wrong decision . i think it's a wrong decision. i thought that letter that he the pr handout that he gave there was a disgrace. frankly because what he was saying was, look, the uk little old uk. well very nice too. but actually there is a bigger fish to fry. i'm off to
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the states okay. and actually had he put a little bit more work in there, he could have said what he's now said, which is actually i'm not going to appear on gb news for the next six weeks. right. and i am going to go out and i am going to campaign for reform. now, look, richard tice, who you often have on this on your station, right? is a is a good i don't want to be unkind about him, but a workaday politician. right. nigel farage is a is to many people a shining light. what he managed to do with brexit has probably will never be achieved again. one man who wasn't even in parliament managed actually to get us all to vote in a way which some will regret, but others are delighted with. so why on earth did he make this decision right? why did he consider that the united states, actually, it was more important than the uk he could have. he could have done both. he can move voters what he can do when he if he stood as the leader of reform and talked exclusively about immigration, the audience
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that follows him could have pushed them through 20. yes, it would have destroyed the conservative party but it may have had an effect, i.e. stopping the boats , etc. but now stopping the boats, etc. but now he has let that go. i am look, i am love nigel. i absolutely vie i'm appalled really at what he's done and how he's let down. what i suspect is a lot of your viewers tonight, well, that's what you've been writing to me about. what you've been writing to me about . and you are divided. i'll about. and you are divided. i'll bnng about. and you are divided. i'll bring you into the conversation and kerry in a second. but as kelvin mentions after that letter, nigel farage did then issue a video update. let's listen to that. to where he was panicked in the rain, ill prepared calling an early general election which shocked and surprised all of us. >> he did it, of course, because no flights were going to rwanda. he did it, of course, because he feared that i'd be back in the front line. now he may be relieved to know that i'm not going to stand as a candidate myself. why? six weeks isn't long enough to fight a constituency seat and to campaign around the country. the
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bad news, mr sunak, is i'll be out around the country fighting, campaigning, appearing on media, supporting richard tice in absolutely every single way. only reform in my view, has the agenda that can reverse our national decline . i'll do that, national decline. i'll do that, but i'll also, as the year goes on, be increasingly in america because i think trump back in the white house makes the world a much, much safer place. so for those who think, thank goodness he's got away, no, i haven't got away at all. and at some point i'll be back as a candidate as well. this just is not the right time for me. i've got one more big card to play in politics in my life. it's not now. >> what do you think to that at home, you. i can tell you so far you're divided. maggie says. nigel has done the intelligent thing. she says, why would anyone stand as an mp for reform? she says, when they're unlikely to get a single seat . unlikely to get a single seat. victor says he's made the right decision this time. in five years time, he should try and do
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it . then he says labour will win it. then he says labour will win this general election and then maybe a new genuine tory party could come back. robert says he thinks farage is playing a bunder. thinks farage is playing a blinder. he'll go to america, get trump elected, we'll have a horrendous starmer government and then farage will play a major role between the uk and the us, he says . and on the the us, he says. and on the following election cycle, he reckons that farage will come back as strong as ever and push a hard in uk politics. andy says it's hysterical that gb news is continuing with the farage fetish. this is a man who's never even come close to winning, as a constituency. mps even lost to a fellow in a dolphin suit. he says farage is a classic me too politician i.e. me, me, me the man is a busted flush, he says. josh says i've always thought nigel was a patriot, but it seems he's putting america first. kerry dingle what do you make to it all, well, i'm not on his team farage's, but i have certain respect for him. and he is a man
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of the people. and you know, i supported brexit all the way. how ever i really object to this. what he put in his letter , this. what he put in his letter, even though he's not going to the states about campaigning for trump, not because as some people saying, oh, boo hoo, he's not being patriotic. i think that's rubbish. you know, there's no way you can say nigel farage is not a patriot, but because he goes on and on about sovereignty, quite rightly, and we have no business interfering in the american election. i remember in the last one and we had a similar thing over brexit, the guardian in 2019 urging its readers to write to friends in the states to vote for biden and i thought it was outrageous. it's interfering in other citizens elections. and i think , citizens elections. and i think, you know, of course, you can be friends with people all over the world and support them and argue your case in britain about global politics and whether you support trump or biden . i think
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support trump or biden. i think they're both a disaster, but to go over and campaign, there's something iffy about that, do you think what do you think to that at home, honestly, you really, really are divided . if really, really are divided. if you're a perhaps a reform candidate. i'm especially interested in hearing from you because i've seen a couple of comments about that and the impact that that has had on your morale today . but i wonder if morale today. but i wonder if you're a candidate for reform. tell me your thoughts. bob has said he's got in touch and said, i feel nigel farage has let this country down, with his decision not to stand today, tim says, i know that people are disappointed that nigel is not standing, but remember, he's done his best over many years to put britain on what he thought was the right track . and he was the right track. and he says, and let's all not forget, we could do with a decent trade deal with america. and if nigel gets a prominent position, he reckons it would make that trade deal much, much easier. for if he did stand, do you think he would have got elected, i don't,
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i'm not 100% sure about that. and i do kind of buy his argument that he'd only had six weeks. but honestly, there'll be lots of candidates out there that nobody knows anything about. and at least nigel would have had huge amounts of media coverage. so he's probably in better shape than most. so, you know, it'd be nip and tuck whether he got elected or not. but the migrant issue is so enormous within our politics now, the fact that he represents we'll push the boats back. we're going to leave echr those are two strands which would , i two strands which would, i think, be an umbilical cord to ordinary people. and i think he stood a pretty good chance, frankly. >> yeah. and this whole because we are coming into the summer we mentioned didn't we, that we've got about 10,000 people that have made those boat crossings so far. and this is a big key dividing line. some people will say that they'll talk about the uni party and all the rest of it, but it is a big dividing line between the tories and laboun line between the tories and labour. this rwanda thing. yes, exactly. >> i mean, sunak will be whistling gypsy tunes, won't he?
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because the truth about the matter is that as good as richard tice is, he can't get the spotlight in the same way as nigel could. and i noticed that the immediately he climbed straight into starmer , accusing straight into starmer, accusing him of offering, which is true, an amnesty to migrants coming into our country. so sunak knows which button to press on this. and actually, nigel is the guy that invented the button, so why didn't he take the opportunity? look. and the other thing is, you know , were he to get beaten, you know, were he to get beaten, right, worry to get beaten, he could still go to america afterwards. by the way , what afterwards. by the way, what about the gb news chief executive? isn't he asking where nigel is going to be between 7:00 and 8:00 most nights between july the 5th and november. >> well, we know the answer . >> well, we know the answer. he's not going to be hosting his regular show for that short time penod. regular show for that short time period . i'm asking you on period. i'm asking you on twitter whether or not you think that nigel farage made the right decision or not, so far, 56% of you say yes. you think that he did make the right decision? of
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course. and 44% thinks no , it's course. and 44% thinks no, it's not true. he says, i can understand farage's position. let labour get in and then mess up for a next term. she says, with their net zero and gender lunacy. and then you should pop up and give it a go next time, do you think that he would do you think that he would actually p0p you think that he would actually pop back up the next occasion and get involved again, who is this, just got in touch. keef says i'm absolutely disgusted that nigel is swanning off to the us after the election , when the us after the election, when he could be standing for the election. he says most of us, says, joined reform because we expected nigel to be part of it, he says he says that he feels very disappointed by that alone and that will be interested, michael says without , farage, michael says without, farage, reform is a wasted vote. it, and i saw, i saw a clip actually, the conservatives had gone on an attack line. they were actually saying, labour, want you to vote for the reform party. i thought
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that was quite an interesting perspective to have as well, because obviously they're going into that neck of the woods, which is the tories are going to be pushing that a vote for reform will essentially be a vote for labour. of course, reform would massively dispute that, and colin says, how could nigel do this to us all? he's made my little girl cry when i told her, colin, i totally buy that. >> know what, nigel crying. no, nigel. no reform. okay, i think their numbers there around about 9% right now. and most of that 9% right now. and most of that 9% is made up of people who thought that that farage was going to stand. and now that he isn't , i expect it to. i'm not isn't, i expect it to. i'm not saying it's going to go down dramatically, but it is not going to grow with farage, that number could have gone through 20% and would have destroyed, by the way, the conservative party. >> well, was you going to vote for reform, did that or has the goings on today changed your opinion? i've just showed you that attack . lie—in then saying that attack. lie—in then saying starmer needs you to vote reform what do you make to that? get in
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touch all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. the email. i'll hop onto the website, slash your say and talk to me there, also coming up after the break, are you a prepper? did you follow the emergency advice to have three days worth of food? and also let's look at the immigration numbers. they're going to be sky high. what do you think to it. see you in two.
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hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. kelvin mackenzie and kerry dingle remain alongside me. sandra has been in touch and said. please, will you get off the prime minister's back? he's damned if he does and he's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't. i am absolutely sick of the bashing that he has had. the guy can't win, she says , is that fair? win, she says, is that fair? what do you think to that? do you share sandra's opinion? let's talk immigration, because some people say that this will be essentially the immigration election. and now, of course , we election. and now, of course, we just had the figures released.
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the ons figures . and i can tell the ons figures. and i can tell you actually, it depends what side of the fence you sit on here, because some people will say it's good news, because the figure was out and it shows that the net migration, 685,000 was the net migration, 685,000 was the number, it was down, though, i've got to say 10% on last yeah i've got to say 10% on last year. hence some people will try and sell this as a good news story. i'm not massively convinced myself, kelvin mackenzie. >> well, no, it's a massive number, isn't it? i mean, it's i read somewhere it's the size of sheffield, you know, we're going, what are we going to do? we're going to start. going, what are we going to do? we're going to start . we're we're going to start. we're going to start giving a round of applause to every time a new sheffield is created in our country, where, where all of us know and we don't need to go through it again. we've got schools that are bursting at the seams. we've got, we've got. you can't get in to see your doctor. you can't. they can't fix the potholes in the road. but we can get 68,000 people to come in. no, it is an immigration election. i totally buy that. and that is why not wishing to bore everybody to death? why?
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farage was needed. and i'm so nigel, if you're watching this tonight, i'd like you to reflect on what you're likely to say. i mean, you know, i want i want to hear your voice. sunak is going to give it to her. starmer is on the back foot on migration. okay, don't let's worry about that. he is not a winner. on what is the most important political subject of our age. so i would like to know what he thinks about it and his answer to that in his sixth, in his six things, was that we are going to we're going to set up another border force. oh, really ? well, border force. oh, really? well, how did the last border force do? what a ridiculous suggestion i >> -- >>a >> a border command unit. >> a border command unit. >> yes. the voters are not idiots . they know what's going idiots. they know what's going on in our country. and they. i suspect anybody who has any brains will not vote for labour on the basis of what they're going to do about migration. >> kerry. well, i profoundly disagree because i know it's going to be a big election issue, but i think that's a
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tragedy because even if we look at the figures and dissect the figures, 450,000 are legal migrants. they're people who've come to here work and with dependents. our universities dependents. our universities depend on them. our health care system has depended on them. now people might not like it. there might be insufficient resources to cater for those people, but they're not coming here and sponging , and they've been sponging, and they've been allowed in. now, i do believe we should have democratic control over our borders and we should decide. the government allowed people to come here. they weren't all illegal. it's a complete myth. we should also be clear that 7 million on the waiting list for the nhs is not because of migrants. you know, the lack of housing is not because of migrants. and unfortunately , i think sunak has unfortunately, i think sunak has been hoist by his own petard. he's made it a big issue with a stupid, expensive , ridiculous stupid, expensive, ridiculous policy with rwanda, which has
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failed . and now it's going to be failed. and now it's going to be a number one issue, not even started. >> do you know it's failed? it's not even got off the ground yet. literally. >> but isn't that a failure? do you think that's what. no, no, no, the lawyers the lawyers have got in the got in the way. well it's not happening, is it? >> no. >> no. >> it's true, but whose fault is it that it's not happening? >> well, i think it's because it's a stupid plan in the first instance and couldn't work. i think that if sunak and the government and, you know, it goes back before him, had made a more sensible arrangement and diplomatic discussion with france to stop the boat crossings. no. are you saying that's impossible? i don't believe it's impossible. >> they are. >> they are. >> i believe it's impossible. are delighted to see a problem with illegal migration in, not legal migration. and immigration being made. this massive issue is going to, you know, outshine
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in things that are much more serious for all of us. the eco austerity that we've had is much more serious. i can't austerity that we've had is much more serious . i can't forgive more serious. i can't forgive starmer or the conservatives for what they did during covid. you know, you stand at the other side of a window while your relatives die. you know, these authoritarians who locked us down regardless of what was best for us. i will not forgive them and we shouldn't have amnesia. and that was only four years ago. and now what? we're going to trust them to run the country . what do you make of that? do you agree with kerry on that sentiment there or not? this will be so interesting. once this situation about immigration, because this is where it's all going to get a little bit kind of, i would argue, quite nasty when we see what's happening, because bet your bottom dollar when that sun comes out, those channel crossings, they will start going through the roof. i've just told you about 10,000 people is the number so far. and you know that labour on their side of the fence, they have committed,
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literally almost straight away to ripping up that rwanda plan . to ripping up that rwanda plan. rishi sunak of course, standing by that. but we also know that no planes will take off the ground before the next election date. but stranger things have happened and never say never. what do you make to the immigration thing, and how important is it to you? let me know after the break. i want to ask you, are you a prepper? do you have yourself ready for the next potential national crisis? because that was what the government was advising
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us. hello. i'm michelle dewberry with your tools. seven. the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. alongside me. as is the director of the charity world. right. kerry dingle, now , world. right. kerry dingle, now, do you regard yourself as a bit of a prepper or not? i just want to get into this quickly. lots of you sending in to me your political gaffes as well. i'll bnng political gaffes as well. i'll bring up a couple of those, but
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just very quickly. are you a prepper? the government of advised us now to have three days worth of food. kelvin. >> i have i love going to costco. >> and i bought a 48 pack of loo rolls just in case. >> just in case of what could be a bout of diarrhoea. >> no, no, just in case. just in case the russians were coming and it was difficult to get down to waitrose . to waitrose. >> right. okay. that's a lovely insight that i've got of kelvin on his throne, surrounded by his. >> i'll be selling them for £10, £10 a roll, you are, you are absolutely i am for things in my household and going on holiday and families and trips with youngsters all over the world. >> i've organised for 30 years, but this is nuts. a few weeks ago i visited that cold war bunker in essex that's now opened to the public. former, you know, nuclear shelter, right? it was the grimmest hole, even though it had air conditioning . you're basically conditioning. you're basically
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breathing stale air. and they reckoned you'd live a year underground. there were beds for 200, but they were planning on putting 600 in there. so you'd sleep in shifts . it was so grim sleep in shifts. it was so grim and sounds like talk tv. it was great to see, but it was really grim and i thought if that was us, i'd take my chances outside. >> would you? i'm i think i might delve into this story in a bit more detail, perhaps tomorrow, because i found it fascinating and it hasn't really got as much pick up as i would suggest that it needs to. there's a whole new website launched about this, and it makes you question what on earth is actually going on. but look, so many people have picked up on rishi sunak, absolutely drenched and wet through. it's been called a huge political gaffe. and it's got me thinking, look at his back or rishi, what was you thinking ? who in your who in you thinking? who in your who in your group of people told you that that would be a good idea? well, where's your mom? >> where's your mom? your mum won't let you go out and do those kind of things unattended, will she, anyway, look, i've
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asked you guys, what about your favourite, political gaffe? of course, the ed miliband, him chomping down on his bacon butty. no one's ever forgotten that one. >> no, that's about the one. one i liked was. was when do you remember in. i think it was in 94. i think it was when kinnock fell over on top of glenys on the beach. in the beach that cheered, that cheered me up. and he got he got a lot wetter than he got he got a lot wetter than he got, a lot wetter than sunak did. but if water is going to be a sign of whether you're going to do well or not, i'm afraid rishi may be in trouble on that basis. >> we do laugh. it is a british thing though. you know that joke we do laugh at, especially at politicians. yeah, but you know, british people in a french restaurant. waiter drops a tray. all the french look, really? and all the brits go, hey, go, go. >> why the golden brown one? do you remember this one? this one, came up top of the list. let's remind ourselves what gordon brown did wrong. >> good. and it's very nice to see you. take care. >> thanks, gordon.
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>> thanks, gordon. >> that's a disaster. oh, everything she just a bigoted woman , right? woman, right? >> do you remember that? i can tell you that caused a lot of problem. that was gillian duffy, that woman. and he basically said, that she was, a bigot, peter says , and matthew, you've peter says, and matthew, you've both come up with the same ones. can we, remember the maybot when she danced at theresa may, danced onto the stage that was, there that was, the letters were falling off the wall behind her, it was. and then do you remember? yeah. didn't someone p0p up remember? yeah. didn't someone pop up and hand a p45 or something to her? yeah. that's right, peter says i wish you'd taken it when she came. >> when she came on to that stage . it's a good job we stage. it's a good job we haven't got the video because you kind of turn away from it. do you remember she was dancing to it? >> of course it was. it was abba dancing queen, wasn't it. and someone is saying like, it was like she was walking the plank to her. her her own political pubuc to her. her her own political public death. >> oh, that's a bit a bit strong, isn't it, the john prescott one.
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>> do you remember that one? have we got that john jaguars. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> was that the punch one. >> was that the punch one. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> look at this one. >> look at this one. >> yeah. no i like that one. >> yeah. no i like that one. >> you like that one. >> you like that one. >> is that an absolute belter thatis >> is that an absolute belter that is that literally a belter. yeah. that was an absolute belter. and the guy was an absolute piece of work who did it. and he got done didn't he. in the end. >> well, you know, i don't condone violence obviously. i don't think you should go around walloping people. but i do kind of think that if people actually thought there were a few consequences to some of the things that they did, people might actually think twice about some of the shenanigans that they get up to. in this day and age, anyway, look who who would be a politician in this day and age. you ran, didn't you? i ran, there's only kelvin. we need to convince kelvin. >> i stood as an independent. >> i stood as an independent. >> oh. did you? yeah. >> oh. did you? yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i take it all back. >> and i take it all back. >> thank you, thank you to the people of weybridge. >> well, there you go. that's what he thinks about you. look, thank you for your company. thanks to you at home. farage. up thanks to you at home. farage. up next, nanites. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb
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news. >> hello. very good evening. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. southern areas will stay mostly dry as we go through the end of the week, but it's a wetter story further north because the same area of low pressure that has brought all the rain we've had through the last day or so is lingering across the uk, so we can expect further outbreaks of rain as we go through the end of today overnight and into friday. some of the rain will be a little bit on the heavy side, but it is definitely easing further south. it's going to stay largely dry overnight and there will be some clear skies under which it could turn a bit fresh, a bit chilly perhaps for some of us to start first thing tomorrow morning. but on the whole, once the sunshine gets going, temperatures should rise quite quickly. if we take a look at what's going to happen first thing tomorrow morning. and yes, it's a bit of a cloudy, damp start across many northern parts, particularly across a big chunk of scotland cloud and outbreaks of rain. none of it
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looks particularly heavy, but it could cause some further issues for areas affected by the heavy rain we've seen recently. perhaps some brightness across western parts of scotland. but across northern ireland, much of england and wales are fairly cloudy and a little bit damp. start the best chance of any sunshine first thing tomorrow morning will be across southern parts and to be honest, here's where we're likely to see the best of the sunshine as we go through tomorrow. as a result of the sunshine though, we could see a few showers popping up, but it is generally going to be dner but it is generally going to be drier towards southern parts, a little bit cloudier and a bit wetter further north. some outbreaks of rain, perhaps the odd heavy shower here, but not as wet as it has been recently . as wet as it has been recently. the temperatures will be near normal for the time of year. feeling warm in any sunshine. in fact, across northern parts it will feel markedly less fresh than it has done recently. as we go into saturday. perhaps a bit of a chilly start for some of us, but it does look like the driest, sunniest day of the long weekend. a few showery outbreaks developing, particularly towards eastern parts. but on sunday we are expecting some more wet
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weather to push its way in. some of that could be pretty heavy at times and more showers perhaps on monday . on monday. >> two looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good evening. it's 7:00. i'm tom harwood , and this is gb news tom harwood, and this is gb news vote 2020 for the people decide today, prime minister rishi sunak went on the attack with keir starmer in his firing line. >> he thinks that we should just offer an amnesty to illegal migrants to make us the soft touch of europe. it would make us a magnet for thousands of migrants coming from everywhere . migrants coming from everywhere. >> shadow home secretary yvette cooper put up the labour plan for controlling immigration, so we need a properly managed and controlled immigration and asylum system. >> so the system is fair

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