boss also today that a cinema in london has been vandalised by pro—palestinian protesters who wanted them not to show a documentary about the october seventh attack. now jewish groups have met there in solidarity to basically say they're not having any of it. how do we calm this issue down here in this country? also today, paula vennells, she's been at the post office inquiry today. you guessed it, crying again. do you have any sympathy for her though, or not? and a

question for you. do you think we're seeing the death of the great british sitcom? and if so, tell me, why . well, lots of com tell me, why. well, lots of com and more. but first, let's cross the line for tonight's latest news headlines . news headlines. >> thanks, michelle. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. rishi sunak has been greeted by a group of pro—palestine protesters as he visited a college in the west midlands this afternoon . the situation this afternoon. the situation was described as tense as the prime minister arrived at south staffordshire college in cannock , the last stop on his uk tour. police officers formed a guard for mr sunak as his entry to the college was delayed and he was quickly ushered into the building as the crowd surged around him. whilst inside, activists and with banners and flags chanted free, free palestine . when theresa may has

palestine. when theresa may has urged tory mps to fight to re—elect a conservative government. in her farewell speech in parliament, the mp for maidenhead, who served as prime minister between 2016 and 2019, said it would be a great wrench to leave the commons after 27 years. the departure comes as 76 tory mps step down, which is more than the number of those who left when labour swept to power back in 1997. labour has ruled out any deals with the snp after the election, even in the event of a hung parliament. sir keir starmer has been campaigning in the east of glasgow today, which is one of the seats he's hoping to take from john swinney's party in july's election. sir keir said the snp's only ambition is to break up the uk and there would be absolutely no deal with the scottish nationalists . jeremy scottish nationalists. jeremy corbyn has confirmed that he will stand as an independent candidate in the next general

election against the party that he once led, as a result, he's automatically been expelled as a member of labour, which suspended him in 2020 over his claims that complaints of anti—semitism had been dramatically overstated in the party. the former labour leader says he'll run as a voice for equality. meanwhile, the current labour leader, sir keir starmer, said he's not worried about corbyn's popularity in islington north, which he's represented since 1983. >> jeremy corbyn will make his own decisions. i think he's standing as an independent. that's his choice. we will have an excellent labour candidate in islington north as we've got excellent labour candidates across the country , and the across the country, and the choice at this election is absolutely clear. we've had 14 years of chaos and decline under this tory government. we cannot have more of that . have more of that. >> gb news can reveal that more than 10,000 channel migrants have crossed illegally to the united kingdom so far this year.

the milestone figure was reached today after another 154 arrived in dover, having crossed in three small boats this morning. it's a blow to rishi sunak on his second full day of election campaigning, after he had promised that his government would stop the boats . the former would stop the boats. the former boss of the post office has been accused of living in la la land over her role in the horizon scandal. paula vennells again becoming emotional on her third day of giving evidence. she admitted making mistakes and accepted that there was no one else to blame. but she claimed that she didn't know why important information hadn't reached her. sam stein kc described that as, quote, absolute rubbish and suggested that miss vennells had failed to ask the right questions because the risk was too great. >> i worked as hard as i possibly could to deliver . the

possibly could to deliver. the best post office for the uk. it would have been wonderful to have 30,000 post office branches . that would have been the best outcome ever to have had more post offices in more communities. what i failed to do, and i have made this clear previously , is i did not previously, is i did not recognise the and it's been discussed within across the inquiry , the imbalance of power inquiry, the imbalance of power between the institution and the individual and i let these people down. >> and finally, the documentary filmmaker morgan spurlock has died at the age of 53. he came to prominence with his oscar nominated film supersize me back in 2004, which tracked his health while he ate nothing but mcdonald's for a month. the film was credited with prompting a broad conversation about how fast food and rising obesity was impacting society. mr spurlock passed away in new york due to complications from cancer. passed away in new york due to complications from cancer . okay, complications from cancer. okay, for the latest headlines, you

can sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen right now, or go to gb news. com slash shirts. now back to . michelle. to. michelle. >> thank you very much for that, ray and michelle dewberry. and i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight alongside me, my panel 7:00 tonight alongside me, my panel, a professor of politics at the university of kent, matt goodwin, and the journalist and broadcaster. a new face to this program, nina michkov. good evening. hello, michelle. and also welcome back to you . and also welcome back to you. and also, you guys know you are very important to me at home as well. thank you for choosing to spend your early friday evening with me. it's very much appreciated and i would like your thoughts on all the topics tonight you've just been seeing there. paula vennells in the bulletin crying her eyes out. so i wonder whether or not you have any sympathy for her. she's been crying a lot this week, hasn't she? at that inquiry, does it wash with you or not? also, i want to talk to you about that

cinema. you've just been looking again at some pro—palestine protests at this time aimed at rishi sunak in that bulletin. but i want to ask, as well as cinema in london that's been daubed with graffiti for having the audacity to show a film about october the 7th. what do you think to all this? is there going to be a resolution to this on the streets of britain, and how much do you think it will impact the goings on on july the 4th? get in touch with me all the usual ways you can email gb views @gbnews. com you can go to twitter or x and get in touch there. or of course you can go on the website as many of you have gbnews.com slash your, say one of my viewers quick you straight out the blocks. martin nigel sorry not martin. you've just issued to me your election manifesto. i think you could be in with a chance. he says he would do the following. bring back national service, bring back national service, bring back capital punishment, build more prisons, harsher prison sentences. turn the boats back. open up the coal mines. no more wind farms, he says. he's only just started. and i've only just read out some of them. he's not messing around. he's put some thought into it anyway. look, it is day three of the election

campaigning so far. is day three of the election campaigning so far . we can cross campaigning so far. we can cross live now to our political edhon live now to our political editor, christopher hope . he's editor, christopher hope. he's not just anywhere. ladies and gents, he is live on the battle boss of rishi sunak. look at that. he's moving. boss of rishi sunak. look at that. he's moving . we're going that. he's moving. we're going to be able to test in real time the broadband connectivity up and down the country whilst we're doing this, because if we lose you, we'll know that it's not up to much in your neck of the woods. tell us where you are and bring everyone up to speed of the goings on of the day . of the goings on of the day. >> michelle. good evening. great to on your show. i'm on the m40 heading back to london after an extraordinary 36 hours with the prime minister. we started set off yesterday, going to derbyshire , to erewash, and then derbyshire, to erewash, and then we flew to cardiff in wales, to a brewery, then flew to the highlands overnight, where we went to the port of nigg, where they build these wind farms, then flew today to belfast and then flew today to belfast and then where we where we went to the, the titanic quarter, where

the, the titanic quarter, where the pm is being ribbed for going there when he was looking at a rather swish manufacturer of fast motor boats. then we flew to birmingham, to cannock , where to birmingham, to cannock, where i've just been, where the pm's been at the cannock sixth form quality college. the point of thatis quality college. the point of that is the pm showing he can be in all all four nations of the uk. he wants to be prime minister for all of the uk and that's often these leaders. they visit these the nations very very quickly in short order at the beginning of a campaign. and of course, the pm knew he was calling it. so we had all the plans in place. now just now in cannock, there's been some protests and pro—palestinian protesters have have been outside the catholic college chanting about, about palestine and blood on the hands of the pm rishi sunak for the uk support of israel and the like. i think that if you're looking at the images now, there's a foretaste there of what we'll be seeing. i think increasingly through the campaign, as the issue of gaza becomes an issue for all of the all the main party leaders today

, though, there's been some unwelcome news for the pm, 76 tory mps are now standing down at this election, up from 75 in 1997. the 76th was sir david evennett . he's the mp 1997. the 76th was sir david evennett. he's the mp for bexleyheath and crayford. the 75th was craig mckinley. he's the tory mp who he featured on tuesday night on gb news with a documentary about him as the bionic mp. he, of course, has lost his arms and legs to sepsis. he issued a very emotional statement today, making clear that he wanted he wanted to stand in a november election. but july is too soon. he needs to get better and look after himself. he'll now be a campaigner on those issues of sepsis. sir keir starmer he's beenin sepsis. sir keir starmer he's been in scotland, trying to take votes off the snp and saying that he wants to be with the party of scotland and most recently he's been in lancashire. well, he'll hear more from him next week as the labour campaign gets up. >> oh, we kept it going right until the very last second there

with your signal. i'm worried that we're just about to hit a bubble of tricky signal. and i'm also getting a bit carsick, so we shall leave that there. thank you very much for that update. we should have a little tracker on the screen where we can plot. where is christopher hope going next? fascinating update there. you've done some recent polling as well , haven't you, mark? as well, haven't you, mark? woodwind, tell me your thoughts on the current goings on. >> yeah, we actually did some polling with gb news this week on the, the state of the race. and the first thing to say is, you know, labour's got this commanding 27 point lead, which is basically twice what labour needs for a for a majority on july the 4th. who would make the best prime minister. well keir starmer ahead of rishi sunak. but the real story here is actually a larger number of voters. almost half the country is basically saying none of them, neither of the leaders of them, neither of the leaders of the two big parties are really capturing my imagination on and also on issues, the three issues that will decide this election on the economy, cost of living, the nhs and immigration, and on all three of those voters tend to back labour over the

conservatives. but again, a larger number of voters are saying i don't really know who to back. i'm not convinced anybody got the answers to britain's problems. so i'm thinking this election , thinking this election, michelle, may come to be remembered as the none of the above election. >> see, i think i'm in that category as well. i i've spoken about this often. i'm not a regular voter. i've not. i must confess, viewers of my programme know this already. nina, i've never really voted as an adult in general elections apart from, yeah, intake of breath. i have ran in two of them. though to be fair to me. so i'm voting for myself. i'll give you that. but this time i've made a commitment to myself. i am going to engage. i am going to vote, but i don't actually know who to vote for. >> well, the thing is, you have to weigh up the odds and see who's going to make the best fist of it, because the country is in a complete shambles. it's been destroyed as far as i'm concerned. the tories have raped this country over the last 14 years. nothing works. our rivers are polluted, the nhs is

crumbling, our courts are clogged , our prisons are full. clogged, our prisons are full. the you know, nobody feels better off the tories. >> for all of that. >> for all of that. >> i absolutely do because they have been in charge. they are the ones who have run the country. and this is where capitalism in red, in tooth and claw has, has gone wrong. it really has because they've put profits before people is, is really what's happened. but the thing is, i've always voted. i've always thought it's the most important thing you can do in life because it's no point whingeing about the government or this, i don't like this take, i don't like that. and this is awful. unless you've had your say, you've got people have got to make their voices heard and you think, well, what's the point? one one voice. but if everybody thought like that, there would be no, there would be nothing. so we need to i mean, i think that it should be compulsory. >> well, i would just come just briefly if i can come back on that one point. yes. the conservatives have got a lot of things wrong. agree with you. but what makes me concerned about this election? we still do

not know an enormous amount about where labour stand on tax spending , growth strategy, spending, growth strategy, immigration, legal migration, not just the small boats and well, no, soon though, they're going to deliver their manifesto soon. yeah. i'm thinking that keir starmer remember a lot of voters don't know who keir starmer is. absolutely. a focus group in stoke on trent. about two months ago, 12 people around the table , three of them didn't the table, three of them didn't know who keir starmer was. so we exaggerate how much people tune into politics, but he's going to have to define who he is and what he believes over the next six weeks. he could have a good campaign, he could have a terrible campaign. so i think there's going to be a lot actually hinging on what happens on the labour side here, too. >> so i was going to say, i think this is the time now when the labour policies and the manifesto will come out. yeah, but the trouble is we all know is that keir starmer has absolutely zero charisma. and thatis absolutely zero charisma. and that is the problem. he is you know, he is dull. he was, you know, he is dull. he was, you know, likened when he was younger to mr darcy. you know.

and it's hard to see that you know these days. but the thing is he is a decent man. he is a good man. he's an intelligent man and he but the thing is, he's also a very wily politician, which people don't give him credit for, because in the in the years since he's been voted in, as it was not many years, he has seen off the left of the party. he's there quite minute. >> he told us to put jeremy corbyn into number 10, and he told us to have a second referendum on brexit, so i'm not sure. >> i marched, i marched for all four marches to have a second referendum on brexit. so i'm not i'm not. we can disagree on that one. but the point being, if you were somebody who wanted to the labour party to succeed and realise that only elections are only won from the centre ground, they're not won from the extremities , that the only way extremities, that the only way you can do it is from the inside of the tent, not from the outside of the tent. so he had to get in there and, and, and, and go along with whatever it was. and then , then stick the was. and then, then stick the knife in, get rid of corbyn, get

rid of the anti—semitic mob. and now he's got an electable labour party, and he's done that in a very short space of time. >> well, let me just get it right. what you've just said. so you just said that you are in favour of compulsory voting, so you make people, so i am going to vote in this next election or not everyone. but previously i absolutely didn't because i just wasn't engaged, i wasn't connected, i wasn't wandering around complaining about politics. no, no. when you say, oh, you can't moan if you don't vote. a lot of people that don't vote, they're not wandering around moaning about politics. they're just cracking on with their life and then moaning about aspects of their life. >> not not about politics, saying, i don't, i can't afford this or whatever that that's that's politics without actually labelling politics. >> but my point is, so on the one hand you would say , right, one hand you would say, right, i'm going to make it compulsory. so i'm going to force all of those people to vote. and then on the other hand, you just turned around and said when we did get a huge democratic mandate, one of the biggest turnouts of its time, and people

did engage democratically with the brexit referendum, you've just said then you went on four separate marches to try and overturn the result. yes >> but the thing is, though, you if you poll those people now who voted for brexit, a huge percentage of them made the wrong decision. and they will tell you that i know. >> but who? >> but who? >> if you are so passionate about people engaging democratically , yes. then how do democratically, yes. then how do you have the audacity to then take to the streets to try and undermine the democratic vote? >> i wasn't undermining it. i'm saying think again. give us another vote. i wasn't saying throw it out. i'm saying give people another chance to vote. thatis people another chance to vote. that is democratic. and by the way, it's not by the way, by the way, it's not by the way, by the way, scotland, scotland voted not to. scotland voted a completely against brexit. and yet scotland has been dragged out to remain. >> would you have taken to the streets four times to try and have a second vote? >> no, because i believed in remain exactly so. >> because you didn't like the outcome of the referendum, you went on multiple marches to try and change it.

>> no, because i knew because i'm, you know, people, brexit has been a disaster in your mind. i think in most people's minds, michel, most intelligent. >> i don't think brexit has been a disaster. >> it has been a complete disaster to become a self—governing, independent nafion self—governing, independent nation with control, to do what laws? >> now our elites have? >> now our elites have? >> where are where are our where are our our trade deals with india? where's our trade deal with america? >> forthcoming . >> forthcoming. >> forthcoming. >> we we've but in the meantime. but in the meantime this country is going down the pan we've signed. there's no respect for this country anymore. sorry. >> can i just respond on first of all, the benchmark is a european union. the european union is doing so wonderful right. it's got the same growth rate, same economic problems. divisions between north and south, divisions between east and west, populist going crazy. the biggest corruption scandal in the history of the european union. we are doing on balance, compared to our eu neighbours, we're doing just fine. what you meant to say was that the people who voted for brexit didn't really understand what they were voting. >> i didn't say, i did not say that. i did not say that. i did

not say that they voted with their hearts and their minds and their hearts and their minds and their lives perfectly valid. >> they wanted to make to be able to affect the laws that affect their lives. they wanted those laws to be taken in their own country, not brussels. and they wanted control over immigration. now, it's not their fault that the conservatives completely misinterpreted that. to give us record mass immigration. that's on the conservatives. the brexit voters knew what they were voting for. they had a very they wanted our border. >> they wanted control of the borders. >> they wanted lower immigration, lower immigration, if you like that. >> but that's not the only aspect of life in this country. >> they wanted sovereignty. >> they wanted sovereignty. >> well, they want and what and what good is sovereignty given us? >> what what's it done so we can control our own destiny? >> is it just it's, you say, control our own destiny, but we can be a self—governing. we're a self—governing nation, but we need to have a proper government. the thing is, is it just because we wanted a blue passport to say english, blah blah blah? no. the scots voted against because we want it to be against because we want it to be a free. scots voted against it. the northern ireland in the uk against it, and wales would not

would have voted against it were it not for all the all the immigrant english who were there. i am not english. i am not english. i guess that so. but i am british and i'm i'm certainly allowed to have my opinion. >> sure , but but what i'm >> sure, but but what i'm saying, well, it's the english people to vote again and again and again until they make the right decision. it's not democratic to give them time to think again because they're too stupid. >> the first round. no, you're putting words in my mouth. and i did not say that. >> how much time do you need to make a decision on your 1st march? when did you first start calling for a second referendum? >> whenever the whenever the 1st march happened. i went on it. >> but how soon after? so it was like we had the process, the brexit process. people go out, i can't remember, but was it did you sit there and wake up one day and say, right, we've had x amount of years. >> i didn't organise the march. >> i didn't organise the march. >> you're an attendee and you believe that that was the right decision? yes >> and you went on to allow people to think again. >> but i just i know, but you think again until they've come up with a decision that you

agree with. >> no, no, no, absolutely not. i have accepted obviously the vote because that's what happened. >> so where do you draw the line then say we have this general election. let's just say the tories get in. you've just said and i quote, you've just said that they've ripped this country. so if the tories get elected again, you work like the outcome. will you then go on a march and ask for a second general election? >> no, of course not. because you accept the result, the democratic result. >> accept the brexit. >> accept the brexit. >> no, because this was it was something that most people could see would would have a negative effect on this country, which it has done. >> people voted for it. >> people voted for it. >> so most people had a negative effect and had a negative effect on this country. and why are we forecast to have one of the fastest growing economies of advanced nations, and how is the poundin advanced nations, and how is the pound in your pocket doing? and how how happy are you to try and get a doctor's appointment? and how happy are you because of that hour train that hour trains are so expensive. are 50 expensive. >> are so expensive. >> is that all because of brexit? no >> well, a lot of it is brexit. a lot of a lot of it is a lot of what is happening to this country is because we don't have of the a, a government that

knows how to govern. we're run by a bunch of venal idiots. >> that's nothing really to do with brexit. >> that's it is it is to do with brexit. >> everything comes back to brexit. but a certain strand of british politics. >> well not everything. >> well not everything. >> well, the strand that we're going on next is the break. we're going to return to this conversation. i also want to ask you, do you think 16 year olds should be allowed to vote? i can tell you there's disagreement on this panel about the answer to that. what's yours? see you in

hello there. i'm michelle dewberry, and i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight. on this friday evening. you're very welcome . nina myskow and matt welcome. nina myskow and matt goodwin remain alongside me. you guys are getting in touch, lots of you are kind of in that camp about whether or not you're going to turn out and vote and who you're actually going to be voting for, you should vote, though, says tim. my mother is

103 and says she will always vote because women died. to get that vote, it is a duty 103. your mum is having a great innings. wish her the best from me, lee says michelle, i voted once and i'm 54 years of age. that was for boris this year. i will definitely vote, but it will definitely vote, but it will definitely vote, but it will definitely not be for laboun will definitely not be for labour. well who would it be, what matters to me most is that labour don't get in, says one of my other viewers. he says he feels that they will destroy what is left of this country. your thoughts? do you actually know who you're going to vote for at this stage? is there anything that could change your mind in the coming 40 odd days or not? are you dead set? no matter what happens? or are you a bit more fluid and flexible, do you think 16 year olds should have the vote? >> matt goodwin no, i don't no, i think, lots of reasons, but i don't think there developed enough intellectually, emotionally. i don't think they are paying tax. i don't think they're in the, conversation as much as others. i don't think they have enough responsibility to be making some of those

decisions. i also think this is pretty clearly a naked power grab on the part of labour to basically rewire the constitutional arrangements in this country, to give votes to 16 year olds, to give votes to potentially eu nationals, to rewire the system in a way that makes it much more pro—labor. so i don't support votes for 16. >> do you support that? >> do you support that? >> i do, i thought about it carefully. in scotland, 16 year olds can vote, and i thought, well, what else can you do when you're 16? well, what else can you do when you're16? you well, what else can you do when you're 16? you can, well, what else can you do when you're16? you can, you well, what else can you do when you're 16? you can, you see, you talk about paying taxes. you can at 16 get a job and therefore when you earn money, you pay taxes. and i think if you pay taxes, you have an absolute right to know where your money in taxes is going to go and how it's going to be spent, and how your world and the world that your world and the world that your country that you live in is run. i think it's valid if you can get married. if you can, if you're if you're emotionally, i understand a young person doesn't have experience. you can be reckless. you can be, all

sorts of things when you're a teenagen sorts of things when you're a teenager. but at the same time, as i said earlier, if compulsory voting was part of the system as it is in australia, it means that you engage from an early age with politics and you understand how how the how things work . and it does make things work. and it does make you think. and if you don't want to , to vote and you have to go to, to vote and you have to go along because otherwise you'll be fined, you can spoil your vote and not vote. that's absolutely up to you. but it means that you have to think about the system. so. >> so i think compulsory voting is slightly different from votes for 16. >> yes, i understand, i'm sorry i brought that, i think also when you look at 18 to 24 year olds in this country, their turnout rates are actually very low. they're about 30 points less likely than baby boomers to vote. so i don't see this mass sort of swell of enthusiasm among younger voters to participate in the system. i also don't see much polling evidence that most brits want 16 year olds to have the vote. i also think about myself at 16. i mean, did i really know enough about the world and have enough

experience to actually really cast a vote in a general election? no, i didn't really. not at all. >> but but you're old enough to have a child, which is the most, i hope. well, you know, if you're 16, you are old, legally old enough to have a child. and that's the biggest responsibility you can have to bnng responsibility you can have to bring another life into this world and to and to be a parent. >> and but we're talking about extremely low numbers of people. >> i know low numbers, but but if legally you're allowed to do that, then how can you legally you are not allowed to sort of. >> and i also it's not surprise that many people on the left do want to put this in, because the vast majority of young people, teenagers and so on, as we know, the age divide is the biggest divide of all in british politics at the moment, that the young are much more likely to vote labour than conservative. only 8% of zoomers from gen z are planning to vote conservative at this election, so it's no surprise that people on the left want votes for 16 year olds. but as i say, i don't think it's the way forward. >> well, a couple of my viewers have got in touch with the same suggestion. you're saying it should actually be raised to 21.

what do you think to that, i mean, i can understand the reasoning behind it. i think 18 for me is a is a good enough reason. i mean, it's a good enough age. sorry. i'm not entirely convinced by the need to raise it. i do. i am more won over by the case for compulsory voting, so long as it includes the option of none of the above. because i think if this election on july the 4th had that option on july the 4th had that option on the ballot and people were able to go into the polling station and say, i don't like sunak and i don't like starmer and i don't like anybody on offer, i reckon that none of the above, you know, a party would probably end up doing rather well. >> and i'm so i'm so opposed to this. i'm in complete disagreement with both of you. i think the job of a politician is to engage people. the job of politics is to be inspiring, engaging, accessible , but also engaging, accessible, but also for people to follow through on what they actually promise that they are going to deliver. that's how you engage and inspire people . what you don't inspire people. what you don't do is if the only way you can get a turnout or a decent sized turnout is to force people either by, i don't know, sanctions or taking money out of your pocket or whatever. you

don't have engagement if you force me to vote, i'm not engaged with you. if anything, i'm more disconnected and resentful of you . i know how to resentful of you. i know how to put across in a box. i don't need to be educated , dated, and need to be educated, dated, and taught, but it's not. i think it's so kind of counter—intuitive to me. you know? will increase engagement by forcing people. you increase engagement by having decent politicians. absolutely. >> i agree with you, but i agree. i agree , but the thing agree. i agree, but the thing is, if you know, you've got to vote and this is this experience from australia and you know, even it's two blokes down the pub saying, i've got a vote tomorrow, you might have a conversation about who to vote for, where you might not have had that before. and it's i think more people should know more knowledge is power. >> but you're assuming that people don't vote because they're a bit thick in the dirt. no, not thick. >> they're just not engaged. they don't understand that their voice matters, that that that without that, they they don't have to take a responsibility to say, well, this is what i think .

say, well, this is what i think. this is what i'd like. >> doesn't matter. i mean, i can think of areas where you could literally put a tin of baked beans up for election with a label lanyard on, and it's going to win. >> well, but that's that's irrelevant, the fact of the matter. but it's taking but it's taking part in life. it's part of life. it's engaging in life. >> i mean, so to go back to the case of the tin of baked beans, which, you know, i would consider voting for given the current political class, larry the cat, larry, that's also about electoral reform, isn't it? i mean, do we move away from first past the post to proportional representation because we've now got, i think, the electoral reform society say we've got more , sort of safe we've got more, sort of safe seats, you know, wasted areas essentially where people's votes aren't making any difference at all than we've had in a very, very long time. so is it now the case? i mean, if we end up with a hung parliament, this is where it gets interesting. let's say labour falls short of a majority. let's say the polls are wrong. let's say the local elections were right. let's say labour's only 8 or 9 points ahead and suddenly they haven't got a majority. and we're in a

hung parliament territory. is that when the lib dems, the snp and the greens and reform all say, right, we want pr, we want a change to the election system in this country, and will labour get knocked into doing something around that? that's where this could get quite interesting. so you would you would get one of those to push for at least a referendum on pr as part of their kind of deal of doing a coalition or something with them, some kind of constitutional shake up. we've got house of lords reform on the agenda. we've got more devolution on the agenda with a labour government. we've got the gordon brown proposals, we've got potentially votes for 16. as i say. i don't agree with that. if we get a very tight race and suddenly a sort of awkward coalition of few parties, a labour led government, does labour led government, does labour get pushed into actually, you know, giving reform for the i would like to see proportional representation because it's a it's a fairer system. >> it's not as it is not as cut and dried. and then you run the risk of, you know, things splintering. but but it is much fairer. it seems so completely unfair. i mean, the vote for the

liberal democrats last time was, was was far greater than than the actual number of mps that the actual number of mps that the vote produced. >> it's a tricky one, isn't it? because on the one hand, if you look at the studies of pr, they show that it produces more left wing governments over the longer term than right wing governments. but also, if we have pr , you know, reform would have pr, you know, reform would probably have 20 or 40 seats in the house of commons. labour would probably split into two parties. we'd certainly get more of a representative politics in a minute. >> after the break, i want to pick up on this, like the israel—gaza conflict on the streets of britain, there's a cinema in london and i want to talk about that. so i'll come to that in a minute. but george galloway's party, they've not really had much of a mention. the workers party of great britain, i mean, they are saying that they're expecting 150,000 votes minimum. i think it is. they're contesting a huge number of seats and they would say that they're very much feel that they're very much feel that they're going to make a massive indent into the labour vote as well. do you share that optimism or not? i think they will attract a significant number of votes, actually, in mainly muslim seats.

>> i don't think they're going to win many, if any seats beyond what they've got because they haven't got labour. then ten, 20 george galloway's they're a threat in the sense of, of there are sort of a canary in the coal mine. if the middle east continues to intensify, it continues to intensify, it continues to intensify, it continues to erupt. this could become a serious problem for all centre left parties. the democrats in november 2nd joe biden's having some really big problems over this as he goes into that fight with donald trump. i have seen numbers that suggest, even on a perfect day for george galloway and his party, they could win. maybe you know, a dozen or so seats. now, in the context with a massive labour majority, obviously labour majority, obviously labour can absorb those kinds. >> let me ask you very quickly before i just go to this break, because you are, the politics guru. reform, nigel, obviously not standing down. what impact will that have in your mind if he's actively campaigning, if he's actively campaigning, if he's in the media every day, if he's in the media every day, if he's on the ground, if voters are seeing him, campaign. >> nigel is always going to make a difference. he's that kind of figure, particularly given how i would argue bland and similar. the rest of the political class

are. never underestimate the impact nigel farage will have on british. >> one of my viewers says, please can you ask nina? >> was shamima begum old enough to know what she was doing age 16, she was at the age of 16, but i think she wasn't quite 16. she was, was she? she was younger than that, wasn't she? she was. >> she was 16. >> she was 16. >> as the age of focus when a lot of the stuff was going on, when she actually went, i think she was i think she was younger than i think she was 15. >> but was she old enough to know her own mind and what she was doing at 16? >> i think you do. >> i think you do. >> there you go, paul says, michelle, be absolutely straight about things. many 16 year olds don't even seem to know what gender they are, never mind who to vote for. karen says 16 year olds are way too young to vote. if i had averted at that age, i would have just followed my parents again. i've told you that other people are saying that other people are saying that ultimately it should be 21. someone else here says, if 16 year olds are considered old enough to vote, they should also be able to face the full force of the law , you can't have

of the law, you can't have anyone in society that can't that should have rights without responsibilities. let me know your thoughts after the break. i want to talk to you about the situation of the cinema in london that was going to broadcast a film about october the 7th, that cinema was vandalised. and then last night we saw a big counter protest. how do we calm things down on the streets of britain? tell me

hi there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. the professor of politics at the university of kent , matt university of kent, matt goodwin, alongside me as a journalist and broadcaster. nina mish garford beck. well, i was just about to say goodbye. everybody i don't want to see the back of you just yet. we've got another 20 minutes to go, so i shall another six weeks ago. yeah. well 41 days, i've said to you all and i were in it together. everyone, we're going together. everyone, we're going to get through it by hook or by crook. we're going to get there.

everyone i promise. anyway, look, there's a cinema in london. the phoenix, to be precise. they are having. it's kind of like a mini film festival, if you will. that's essentially some saying state sponsored by israel . now they've sponsored by israel. now they've put on a film that was all about, october 7. now it's created quite a backlash . so created quite a backlash. so there's been this, you know, graffiti kind of daubed on there. it's on the top of the screen there. so they've got graffiti daubed on this thing. and now last night you've had , and now last night you've had, pro, kind of israel jewish supporters coming together as one to push back on this stuff, saying that they don't want to be intimidated. ken loach, he was a patron, of this cinema . he was a patron, of this cinema. he stepped back away from his role. what do you make to all of this? >> yeah, i think it's pretty disgraceful, actually. i mean, i used to live in east finchley, i know the phoenix cinema very well. i used to go, there's an enormous jewish community in and around east finchley. lots of my friends still live there. and i think what this is really

showing for me, this is a council process on the screen. what this is showing is, is, is, is the very virulent, aggressive intimidation and intolerance thatis intimidation and intolerance that is shown towards, the jewish community here in britain. just to be clear, what what this film festival is showing is a documentary called supernova the music festival massacre, which tells the story of the attack by hamas, the islamist extremist organisation on the nova music festival, and how hamas murdered and raped jews. they have every right to show that documentary vie, in britain, within that community, and again, it speaks to the intolerance among some on the left, a kind of alliance of, you know, kind of radical cultural left and radical islamists who are trying to shut it down because that's what they do. they try and shut down views and perspectives they don't like. but i'm all for showing this documentary, and i and i hope that the reality by the way, michel, of what happened on october 7th, which is still

denied by a large, worryingly large share of people, particularly on the left, also british muslims, are worryingly large number deny the events of october 7th. i hope more of these documentaries are shown across britain so we can educate people about what happened . people about what happened. >> i just want to ask you a question. who is denying the events of october the 7th? who specifically? well we've had surveys over the last few weeks. >> i've written about these. we've had a survey of british muslims which has shown that , muslims which has shown that, somewhere between a third and 40% deny that october 7, what you said included, the murder and rape of jews. we've had comprehensive surveys showing that younger voters, labour voters are much more sympathetic of hamas, more supportive. >> but but yes, but but but being sympathetic towards hamas is not the same as denying. >> well, just i've just said that we've had surveys that show a large number of british muslims. no, no, no, but i'm sorry. >> yes, i understand what you

said about the british muslims. i wanted to know what you say about the young, left leaning people. you say that they are pro—palestine and a supporting hamas, israel and sympathetic anti—israel . but are they are anti—israel. but are they are they are they like, are they like holocaust deniers ? are they like holocaust deniers? are they actually. yeah. >> i think there is a section on the left that basically , has the left that basically, has refused to engage with the reality of october 7th. >> and are they denying that it happened? are they denying it? i think there are people on the left you're saying, i think, but you don't have a fact for that. >> well, i can go and look at the survey. i'm pretty sure on the survey. i'm pretty sure on the surveys we'll find a significant chunk, because that's a very worrying thing, because the one of the it's not surprising. we can see at the rallies and the chants and the sickening. >> no, no, we're not talking about the muslim side or the palestinian saying the left, the left on the left who are marching with hamas, hamas sympathisers. but i'm saying i what i think this is very important to, to make a distinction between being sympathetic towards hamas or

being anti—israeli extremist and absolutely, i agree with that. and denying that it happened. and denying that it happened. and i think it's very important also when we have any discussion about this, this area that there's a distinct difference between netanyahu's government , between netanyahu's government, the israeli people and the jewish people because we've gone in a completely different direction. no, no, i haven't gonein direction. no, no, i haven't gone in a different direction . gone in a different direction. >> sukh people accept the events of october 7th or do they not? yeah. well. >> well, exactly. but but i'm saying but i'm british. >> jews have a right to go and watch a documentary. >> of course they do. i'm completely against. i'm completely against. i'm completely against. i'm completely against. but i wanted to i wanted, i wanted you i wanted you to clarify the point that you made because you were made. you made this rather general statement about the left not accepting the events of the october general statement. >> since october the 7th, every week we've had thousands of people talking about that singing anti—semite slogans, talking about the denial of the events, which is like holocaust denial. >> and i want that made clear. >> and i want that made clear. >> i've got to say, actually , i >> i've got to say, actually, i would add that not only if you're suggesting that some

people deny it, of course, we've seen examples of some people celebrating it. so not denying that it's actually happened or actually celebrating somebody like it's been a thing in the first place. goodness me. what do you make to it all? get in touch all the usual ways.

hello, everybody. happy friday to you. i am michelle dewberry and dewberries haven is open, so cheers to you at home and to my panel cheers to you at home and to my panel, nina myskow . and to my panel, nina myskow. and to my style. oh. we reached. yeah, we did it. cheers everyone. >> what am i drinking here, what is that? i think prosecco. >> is it? i'm hoping it's champagne. >> i think that's prosecco. it is very nice. >> champagne, this is gb news. we're not, the bbc. we don't take taxpayers money and spend it on champagne. thank you very much, moira says, are you having double measures tonight, michelle? >> the size of these glasses haven't been. >> don't tempt me. look, i want to get through a couple of other bits before we go. paula. wednesday, three at the inquiry

today. crying her eyes out. have you got any sympathy for us? >> oh, my god, she's crying for herself. not for anything. anything else? that woman. as far as i'm concerned, that woman should be behind bars. she is supposed to be a reverend. where's the christianity? where's the christianity? where's the christianity? where's the humanity? where's the empathy? if she didn't know what she said, she didn't know. she's completely incompetent . so she's completely incompetent. so she's. she's not only let down all these poor people who deserve, you know, give them each £1 million and that be the end of it. but she's let women down. women have fought so hard to get to positions of authority. and then it's like when you're driving a car and there's a car being driven very badly in front , and you come badly in front, and you come round and it's a woman, you think, oh my god, i completely reject this. >> so just because she's a woman, i have no connection with paula vennells at all. just because of she shares an anatomy with me. i don't buy this notion that a female that succeeds in business is therefore has this responsibility to be some kind of role model to all females, because women have had to fight so hard to get through the glass ceiling to be there and then to

and then to screw it up in this way is just dreadful. but her genderis way is just dreadful. but her gender is not relevant to that. >> well, you know, perhaps perhaps it's a generational thing with you. with me. michelle, i feel that that that women do have more empathy. they have more sensitivity in terms of humanity. and when it's patently , obviously, you know, patently, obviously, you know, demonstrated otherwise , i feel demonstrated otherwise, i feel very badly let down. >> i share the female kind of empathy. like, i know this sounds really weird. i'm going on a random tangent, but obviously i hate all paedophiles, obviously. but whenever i hear of a female paedophile, there's something in me that almost feels that as a woman, the sex that gives birth and creates children to then do that somehow, that's that's exactly what i'm saying. >> it's worse. >> it's worse. >> yeah. anyway, i will ask you about female paedophiles. you'll be pleased to know. i'll move on and talk about british sitcoms. right, instead, herm, do you have a british sitcom that was your favourite, for some horses . your favourite, for some horses. oh, is that your favourite one? loved it, maybe dad's army.

>> what was your favourite scene in only fools and horses? >> oh, come on, it's inflatable dolls every time. >> no, no, it's the bar. it's the bar, it's the bar falling through the bar. and also the chandelier where they were. they unscrewed the chandelier and they're standing holding the. >> it's also a good one, but the inflatable dolls have me. >> oh, it's the bar. >> oh, it's the bar. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> but anyway. but what this thing is saying is the you know, we're losing these, yeah. the classic british story is, by the way, sorry. >> in case you think i'm just randomly going on a tangent, the head of the bbc comedy biscuit says it will be an oversupplied with so—called comedy dramas instead of proper british sitcoms. that's why i'm asking about it, i think. >> i think that's true. i think the other thing that concerns me, and not to turn this into a kind of usual woke bashing thing, but what concerns me now is every time i have five minutes and i put the tv on and eastenders is on, or hollyoaks is on or something at 7 pm, 8 pm. is on. i feel like television programs today are just jamming politics down our throat , and

just jamming politics down our throat, and not all politics are particular side of politics. i feel like i'm being lectured to constantly by television programmes when i watch adverts. >> yeah, adverts or don't get me started on adverts. >> i've ranted about what's happening in the creative industries. is bananas right? i mean, they're just it's full of kids from elite families using adverts to project political messages. i wonder what it's like for people who live outside of london, outside of the university towns, in mainly, let's say, white british areas that voted for brexit. and they're looking at these adverts that are portraying the country in a sort of way whereby britain isn't even britain anymore. it's this sort of weird, hyper liberal, hyper diverse, you know, but this country is diverse in some areas, but not all areas. >> but then the one of the reasons i live in london is because it is diverse. >> i surprise me, but london is only a small part of london. >> london is, is what, 8 million, 9 million people to represent? >> there's 70 million people in this country. we need to represent this everybody in britain. >> let me ask you this very

quickly. do you know when you watch adverts, do you notice just how the casting in the adverts is these days? and whether or not you think there's something deliberate going on there that's a bit there's probably probably something very deliberate. >> but but i don't really watch ads much. i don't really care about it. but what i care about is sitcoms. and i think the reason that sitcoms aren't funny is because we haven't got writers who are good enough. but as long as there's the last, episode of gavin and stacey, i'm happy, one of my viewers says we need a gb news entertainment channel. we'll bring back the inbetweeners, harry enfield, paul whitehouse. i used to like roy chubby brown. i think that says quite a lot about the calibre, of my teenage years at least. anyway, cynthia says thanks for the comedy tonight. you, nina, have really made her laugh with your suggestion that there should have been a second referendum. there you go. we aim to please here on dewbs& co. have a fantastic bank holiday weekend. everyone. take care. patrick christys is up next. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update this weekend. it's going to be a bit of a mixed bank holiday, the driest weather expected on saturday for most of us. we'll turn a bit more unsettled as the weekend goes on, but through this evening the pressure pattern really settles down and that will set us up for a much dner that will set us up for a much drier and colder night to come. tonight there are areas of cloud and rain we've seen across. northern areas will slowly drift northwards through the next few hours, and these clearer skies across the south will become more widespread, pushing into parts of southern scotland by the morning. there's a chance of some mist and fog across some southern counties , and it's southern counties, and it's going to be a fresh start. as i say, temperatures could be down as low as three, 3 or 4 degrees across parts of wales southern areas of england as well, but it will warm up fairly quickly as the sun will shine. first thing we could see some sunshine first thing across the north—east of scotland where we're sheltered from that more southerly wind, thicker cloud, though further

south and west still some drizzly rain. but i think things will improve through the day here. elsewhere across much of england and wales it will be a dry and bright start, but some mist and fog may allowed some drizzly rain. notice though, we do have this area of quite persistent rain moving into the south and east that's moving in from parts of europe, and that could bring some very heavy rain to eastern areas potentially. so a bit of a wet day is on the cards for eastern areas of england, just some areas actually. most of us should stay dry through the day on saturday, andifs dry through the day on saturday, and it's going to feel much warmer than it has done today. highs of around 22 degrees in the south, closer to 19 degrees across the north. but under the cloud it's going to be a bit of a disappointing day. things turn much more unsettled on sunday. bands of showery rain will push north and eastwards through the day, some more persistent rain for northern areas. heavy possibly thundery downpours across many central and southern areas and that could bring some localised disruption , perhaps localised disruption, perhaps some flooding and spray on the roads. and it will likely stay

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gb news. >> hey. very good evening to you. it is 7 pm. on friday. the 24th of may. and this is a gb news election special. over the next hour, i have got conservative mp anna firth, former advisor to tony blair and john prescott. darren murphy and former lib dem mp mark oaten. here in the studio, i've got the spectator's top political hack james heale, former labour mp stephen pound and commentator extraordinaire emma woolf. we are 48 hours or so now into this seismic general election campaign. there's been gaffes,

there's been resignations and finally