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admitted day giving evidence she admitted making mistakes and accepted that there was no one else to blame, but claimed that she didn't know why. important information didn't reach her. sam stein kc described that as absolute rubbish. he suggested that miss vennells had failed to ask the right questions because the risk was too great. and lastly, the documentary filmmaker morgan spurlock has died at the age of 53. he came to prominence with his oscar nominated film super size me in 2004, which tracked his health while he ate nothing but mcdonald's for a whole month. the film was credited with prompting a broader conversation about fast food and how rising obesity was impacting society . obesity was impacting society. mr spurlock passed away in new york due to complications from cancer. york due to complications from cancer . write for the latest cancer. write for the latest stories. sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or why not go to gb news .com/ alerts? now it's over to our headliners .
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over to our headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners. it's your first look at saturday's newspapers with three comedians. that's me andrew doyle. >> and i'm joined tonight by the big dog, nick dixon and the little pussycat, steve n allen. i'm hoping that catches on. yeah, because, yeah, you do that very well and you've got a very sort of affectionate quality which people at home don't really gather. but i, you know, the way you behave here and i can reach if that's what the question was, very flexible. >> you are you are certainly flexible that one of your greatest. >> is that what you imputes? >> is that what you imputes? >> no, not at all. >> no, not at all. >> but since you've mentioned it, how are you, nick? >> i'm well. yeah, yeah. >> i'm well. yeah, yeah. >> loving life. you know me. people people are trying to attack me all the time, andrew, but i'm just very chilled going with the flow of the universe. >> you're like titanium. like that song? >> absolutely. shoot me down, but i won't fall. there you go. >> that should be your slogan. >> that should be your slogan. >> anyway, let's have a look at saturday's front pages before we
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dig in. the daily mail is leading with reeves. i'll never play leading with reeves. i'll never play fast and loose with your money. sounds like a lyric. that one.the money. sounds like a lyric. that one. the telegraph has got inheritance tax against tory values, says hunt. the guardian is running with un top court orders israel to halt assault on rafah. the times are leading with gove quits politics as more tories stand down. the express has got the same story there about michael gove. and finally the daily star. about michael gove. and finally the daily star . we've beaten the the daily star. we've beaten the curse of snoring with wait for it didgeridoos. those were your front pages . right. so we're front pages. right. so we're kicking off our look into saturday's front pages . i'm saturday's front pages. i'm going to start with the mirror, steve, and they're going with quite a partisan headline now. gove quits sunak sinking ship. there's a reason it's not just partisan. there's more punnery at work in there. oh yes. so the main headline thing is that michael gove has decided to not continue the fight. he now joins. i mean, according to the
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article, it was 77. i think this was before andrea leadsom . yes, was before andrea leadsom. yes, he was 78, 78. maybe my panini sticker book of tories is now incredibly out of date, and i'm gonna have to start collecting it. this is what's really annoying about the general election. the sinking ship thing is, because there was an event that rishi sunak went to the titanic museum. yes, but i think if they were , it's not great pr, if they were, it's not great pr, though. it's like turning up to the, you know, the museum of pooch screwing and see what the headunes pooch screwing and see what the headlines are going to be. why would you do that? why would you? but having said that, i think the mirror ran this headune think the mirror ran this headline knowing full well that you know what they don't like them. do they? no. that's true. yeah.i them. do they? no. that's true. yeah. i mean, it works on both levels. they think it's a sinking ship. well, i mean, people are evacuating it. not not everything that gets evacuated is a sinking ship. but there might be some similarities. it's true. nick, the thing about this is , you the thing about this is, you know, shouldn't you stick it out as a tory and even knowing that you're going to lose, shouldn't you're going to lose, shouldn't you just stick it out for the good of the party? i'm not talking about gove specifically. i'm talking about everyone. >> yeah, i suppose you don't want to sit on the opposition benches. you know, you're lining up some sort of job with nick clegg or something at facebook.
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you're thinking about your next move. i mean , gove's been there move. i mean, gove's been there a long time, hasn't he? i mean, he has he it is it is interesting. he was good on education. if he speaks to people like toby young, who've done a lot of work on free schools, people say he was very strong on education. yeah. and he talks about the toll office can take. and i do sympathise with that because you have to remember the person that ended up killing sir david amess was scouting out michael gove's house first. so this is a very real danger now. >> no, it's scary . yeah. >> no, it's scary. yeah. >> so you understand having been through things like that, you might think, oh i've had enough, especially as we're going to get slammed anyway. the only thing i found strange is long resignation letter. he said i've tried to fight for greater social justice, which i found very strange . you have to very strange. you have to remember this. gove was a newtonian conservative. he was receiving the salisbury review at age 16, the late sir roger scruton's magazine. yes. and scruton's magazine. yes. and scruton was very against the idea of social justice. this is a left wing concept that is sort of tied in with the kind of zero sum politics of resentment , he sum politics of resentment, he claimed. so for a sort of conservative to talk about social justice, very , very odd, social justice, very, very odd, which might suggest, might
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relate to some of the confusion we see in the conservative party. >> maybe. i mean, although the social justice means different things to different people, doesn't it? that's the thing. and it can mean something very different to i mean, the levelling up is levelling. exactly. they would say levelling up meant meritocracy. >> yeah, he meant something different. but it's just a strange phrase to come. >> yes, i suppose it is. i think you're right. i think gove did did do some good things for her, for education and was really because he got slammed for it, but actually trying to reintroduce sort of traditional, liberal arts, liberal education that strikes me as a really good thing. and we sort of suffering from the fact that we haven't really properly implemented it. yeah. slammed by the teachers as well, who didn't particularly like it. it was very much like that. that was a domestic. they could have sought that out on their own. yes, very much so. >> he talks about, you know, the massive improvements in, you know, math skills and literacy and things like that. so i do think he did some good work there. yeah. but yeah, disaster for rishi, for someone so big in the past. yeah. >> i mean i'm not so much concerned about gove insofaras. i just think all of these 72, 73, 78, up to 7880 since we since we did. yeah, it just keeps ticking up, you know, that. that's just not a good look is it? i mean, they really have thrown in the towel from
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the looks of things. anyway, we're going to move on to the next story. this is in the mail. mail on saturday. what are they leading with. >> so they've got reeves. i'll never play fast and loose with your money. which of course is rachel reeves, shadow chancellor no doubt going to be the chancellor. and it's she's been doing this for a while, this kind of thatcherite thing. she's talking about sound money. yeah. and she's talking about she won't soak businesses and crush entrepreneurs and that there won't be the typical tax and spend that we expect from laboun spend that we expect from labour. i mean, i still think there will i still wonder where any of the money is going to come from or what they're going to be able to do in the position we're in. >> but apparently the magic money tree. >> yeah, but i guess it's another way they're distancing themselves from the left. you know, corbyn starmer's been distancing himself a lot from corbyn. and now corbyn's going to be an independent. and so it's very much this this new new new labour maybe . yeah. new labour maybe. yeah. >> and you know, the fact that this is one of those articles which is based on the fact that the daily mail has got a scoop, you know, rachel reeves is writing specifically for them. so if you look in the inside the papen so if you look in the inside the paper, you'll have the full interview. and this is the scoop. this is the sort of highlights on the front page. is
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that a sign as well? the fact that a sign as well? the fact that the shadow chancellor is writing for the daily mail? yeah. well, i mean, it wasn't that long ago that keir starmer was writing in the telegraph where he said the flack for it, but he got flack. it's not really changed the poll. it's not like he suddenly lost that poll lead by saying i'll tell you who i think was a great leader, margaret thatcher, paul still does all right, isn't it? no, i know i erwin james was angry about it, but i think, well, you know, but i think that's the thing. it's like they do want to appeal to both sides, you know, the idea that there is such a thing as a labour voter and a tory voter that shouldn't be in your mind as a politician, every vote should be possible. well, as you go into an election, you can't really win with a system that we have . if with a system that we have. if you don't have an offering that is palatable to the centre ground , but no one wants to say ground, but no one wants to say it because it's boring and you all you get, you do better on social media. if you say no, we should go more in the other direction. let's get more extreme. but when you need an entire nation of people, statistically most of whom don't agree with you to vote on things, you've got to sell it to the centre. but do we trust labour with the money, nick? do you?i labour with the money, nick? do you? i mean, they haven't got a great track record. >> no. and we've got, we've got all this debt problems. we've
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got all sorts of financial problems. i don't and i don't see where they're going to get the money. i don't trust them with the money, but i don't trust them with anything. so we're going to just, you know, we're going to just, you know, we continual collapse. >> do you trust them? steve well, i actually even even i don't know because i understand this would be the message that you should put out there. they know the kryptonite for the labour party is bad rep to do with money. so send someone or there is going to be like, no, i've got a spreadsheet and make us feel safe. the balance is on the front page though, because bofis the front page though, because boris johnson's written for them as well, saying starmer would be the most dangerous and left wing labour pm since the 1970s. that sounds like a shocking thing. so you think how many have there been? yes. >> the only caveat i will offer, sorry, is i think people like the bank of england or the ons, whoever it is. do i mean not ons? that's statistics. what's the one obr obs which is obr obr. people like that are going to work better with labour. you know the people that kind of stitched up truss. according to truss, the civil service and so on, they all work better. >> the one that stitched up with laboun >> the one that stitched up with labour. she's done a sort of state sort of saying that everyone the deep state will be on labour's side is what i'm saying. >> so maybe that makes a difference. >> maybe. and of course, reeves would be the first female chancellor, so they'd be
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catching up with the tories two female prime ministers, three, three. i'm sorry, it's just. did three. i'm sorry, it'sjust. did you forget which one was only there for 40 days? anyway, let's move on, with the next one. this is the telegraph. and the telegraph has, an inheritance tax story that we're not really interested in. yeah, but the headuneis interested in. yeah, but the headline is inheritance tax against tory values, says hunt. it's a shame he's not the chancellor. so he could have fixed this when he did a budget or something interesting. >> why does it leave? >> why does it leave? >> scrap it. but anyway, net zero policy could raise pollutant deaths. is the story. it's down the bottom. but it is interesting. yes. all of this work to try and achieve net zero includes a lot of insulation. i believe people protested about insulating britain. we had to, you know, have have cars idling on the m25 to improve pollutants. i'm sure that helped. but the point is you make places too airtight. so the pollutants get trapped in. i mean, the whole article doesn't mention that . that's not how mention that. that's not how it's meant to be. you're meant to have ventilation. you have heat exchangers to warm the cold air coming in. yes. we've got the technology that solves most of the problems they go on about. yes if you have a house and you hermetically seal it, it's a bit bad for you. but
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we've always been terrible as a nafion we've always been terrible as a nation when it comes to caring about pollutants. you know, the rest of the world. when they found out about coal, they had like boilers and things, and we were just the one place that went no open fire. we want to see the coal and breathe in all the stuff that gets our lungs. yes, but it's very romantic . it yes, but it's very romantic. it looks nice of a winter eve. yeah for the first 40 years of your life, until you're coughing up all that black lung. >> that's how. that's how we conquer the world. open fires . conquer the world. open fires. that's what i believe in. and young boys up chimneys. that's how we did it. yeah. resilience. >> resilience, resilience. >> resilience, resilience. >> and we had a workforce. we had 100% employment. if you were ten, you worked up a chimney. >> exactly. and you know, you've got emphysema and silicosis and all the rest of it. but it didn't matter because we had an empire. yeah what kind of diseases? that one is the war. there we go , we're going to move there we go, we're going to move on now to the daily star and, totally different story, nick. >> it's very different. it's we've beaten the curse of snoring with didgeridoos. and as you might expect, it's boffins. >> they love their boffins. >> they love their boffins. >> yes, boffins. it's seagulls . >> yes, boffins. it's seagulls. in this case, it's boffins that have come to the rescue. it's
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doctor sophie bostock. i don't know how she feels about being called a boffin , but she has called a boffin, but she has said that learning to play the didgeridoo can cure snoring somehow. i've skimmed it, but it's something to do with sleep apnoea. >> podcast cover. who's snoring ? >> podcast cover. who's snoring? i believe it's a stock image. oh, stock image. >> i'm familiar with his work, christopher hitchens, but it's not. but why is he you know, he's got a pizza. >> i think eating late at night might be the problem with that chap, i would suggest. yeah, yeah. and you don't just sleep with your didgeridoo issue as well. >> maybe. >> maybe. >> how do you. steve, you're a didgeridoo expert. how does how doesit didgeridoo expert. how does how does it cure snoring ? it's to do does it cure snoring? it's to do with strengthen up the muscles, especially the tongue bit further back. and it just means that that stuff then doesn't collapse in when you fall asleep. can you demonstrate that you have you have a well, it just so happens i always travel with my didgeridoo. yes. and, normally i've got a longer one than this. which. oh, boaster you were, you were you were you were you ? were you? >> yeah. he's been bringing it in for two years. this is the first time it's been useful. >> can't believe i keep emailing boffins. and this is the first time they've actually written
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about it. and there we go. you finally got. >> that was probably cultural appropriation. >> almost certainly. and i don't really believe you're playing that. >> so what i'm doing, i'll show you. were you were you ? i'm you. were you were you? i'm making the didgeridoo sound. yeah. that's what they all do. they're frauds. every they're all frauds. every didgeridoo player is a fraud. okay so. well, that's the end of part one. but coming up in part two, we're going to be discussing keir starmer's plans north of the border. the counter—protest in london and the un's top court's directive for israel. please do not go
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welcome back to headliners. your first look at saturday's newspapers with me, andrew doyle and my comedian buddies, steve n allen and nick dixon. we don't use the word buddies, now, do we? i like it, i'm going to bnng we? i like it, i'm going to bring it back anyway. i should say that we are actually hosting a night with the headliners live. that's stand up comedy with arne slot stand up comedians. you can come along and join us for an evening of comedy that'll be in london, on the 3rd of june, and you can meet us all, chat with us in the bar afterwards. i'll be there doing a bit of a set. leo kearse will be performing, simon evans will be performing, simon evans will be performing, josh howie will be performing, josh howie will be performing all on the 3rd of june. if you want to come along to that. for more information, just scan the qr code that is presently on the screen right now. so get up and scan it because it's about to disappear. or you can visit gbnews.com. that's the other
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alternative. but do come along and enjoy the show and say hello. anyway, we're going to begin this section now with saturday's telegraph keir starmer sharma has his sights set on scotland. steve yep. starmer says he needs to win scotland to become prime minister. then you read the article and you realise he's not saying he needs to. he's saying ineed saying he needs to. he's saying i need to in that, like mathematically, is he like he could he could not win a single seat in scotland . still have seat in scotland. still have enoughif seat in scotland. still have enough if the polls are accurate. yes. although the more seats he gets in scotland, labour gets in scotland, the less of an unprecedented swing is required elsewhere. so it would be beneficial. but he's saying need is in kind of like hey come on guy need you know don't walk out on me. i need you right now. yeah, and the reason is because emotionally. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> i mean, he doesn't he's not really playing the game, is it? like, everyone else has done the stuff for him. he stands a good chance of doing well in scotland because the snp imploded in the same way he does well elsewhere, because the tories. this is like a fight scene in the 1981 film condorman. it's not a reference to everyone's going to get, but it's in three days of the condon >> what's condor man?
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>> what's condor man? >> condor man is michael crawford is a super as a as an agent, but he doesn't really know he's a spy. and he keeps, you know, like in comedy where he'll just duck down to pick up a case while a bullet goes past it. michael crawford is in some mothers do. >> yeah. so it's a comedy, i'm guessing. yeah. >> 1981. condor. if you'd have hit us with lawnmower man, then yeah, yeah, nick and i would have got no fight scenes where the bad guys beat themselves up accidentally. and that's exactly politically, it's a better reference than. you're all giving me credit. i actually love the idea of this film, so i am going to watch no one in the country has watched that film. nobody. >> i lost everyone just turned off. honestly, for tonight will show in that exact second everyone clicked on. >> i googled it to make sure it wasn't like a cheese dream that i. >> i] >> i ..- >> i was i. >> i was thinking michael crawford in the film. >> let's let's move it back to the story. are you like the new louis schaefer? are you slightly, have you have mixed feelings about this? insofaras, you know, labour, you know, taking over scotland wouldn't be great. on the other hand, it's quite nice the idea that the snp's grip, their one party grip over scotland, will finally be obliterated. >> tricky one for me. it's like who do i want to win the league?
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liverpool or man city? it's one of those yeah, i hate the snp, i hate labour, i don't hate scotland . no i'm joking guys scotland. no i'm joking guys joking about that. i just thought it'd be suddenly you set fire to that kilt. earlier i saw your scottish cousins love scotland. great people. but, the thing is great golf courses. the thing is great golf courses. the thing is great golf courses. the thing is . yes. and it'd be great thing is. yes. and it'd be great to obliterate the snp. they would deserve it . their would deserve it. their weakness, though, will allow this crushing labour majority. i mean, i don't think tony blair in one of his landslides even needed scotland. they won't need scotland , as you say. he just scotland, as you say. he just wants scotland. i love this sentence . the numbers are sentence. the numbers are important, but there's something very deep about the way i see politics. is there or is it just complete opportunism and shallowness? yeah. >> an affiliation for scotland. >> an affiliation for scotland. >> did he go to school in scotland? >> well blair did, blair did? yeah. >> his dad was a scottish toolmaker. >> was he scottish? >> was he scottish? >> i've no idea. >>— >> i've no idea. >> no scottish today. >> no scottish today. >> he probably was. yeah. >> he probably was. yeah. >> he's making the point though that it because they have a or have had a situation where the parties that they vote for aren't the ones running the country. yes. and then you can moan about it, but the same is true. that's the system. there are places in the south west
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that vote lib dem and they're never going to have a prime minister. so it's basically scotland does tend to make itself the belle of the ball a little bit, kind of like, oh impresses. okay. well let's stick with the telegraph now. rishi is rishi bending the rules for lord frost? rishi well no. rishi insists lord frost could stand for tories in a general election. it was claimed he couldn't, but now he can. i mean , i'd say it's a non—story, but people seem to think that's a lewis schaffer catchphrase, as if he invented that term. but anyway. so even if he didn't, he popularised it. i think he was. people were saying it. were they for a long while, people had a story that really didn't have a lot of detail in it. people didn't go, oh, it's like an empty story. people know this story was known. he'll be crushed. hope he's not watching, he's, so even if they had a plan to stop lord frost standing, they wouldn't do now because they've run out of so many mps. so by the time we've finished this bit, it'll be up to 85. yeah. they would take anyone, anyone. they'd asked that guy back with the offer of like what? tractor? so we can look at the porn again. that neil that guy l the porn again. that neil that guy i don't i think they should bnng guy i don't i think they should bring him back. who hasn't anyway, nick, what do you make of this? well, i've actually asked david myself, trying to get an exclusive, but he said,
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i'll tell you when i've got a minute. >> so hopefully by the weekly sceptic on tuesday. but i didn't manage to get the exclusive. but because he did it, he's not surprised that it's confusing because it was one point. it was like he's barred. and then i read sunak saying, no, of course he's not barred. that's ludicrous. >> so he's going he's thinking of dropping out that law. >> he would drop out of being a lord just so he could run. but he claimed in the telegraph, so and this is out there, he said, i'm grateful to the prime minister for clarifying. he said i wasn't clear whether i could apply to stand for the commons at this election, but he's saying it's very late in the process. time is short, but i'll now consider the options. so what you might assume from this is that they maybe didn't want him. they weren't thrilled about him. they weren't thrilled about him standing. maybe the conspiracy would be, but why not? >> is it because he's too right wing if you read well, yeah, he's a natcon. >> he's associated with the natcon side of the party. if we. there's one thing this conservative party hates is conservatives. and there's another thing they hate. it's bofis another thing they hate. it's boris johnson. if there's another thing they hate, it's winning. and he's associated with all three of those. so of course they don't want frost. that's my theory. but, if you read that piece in the telegraph a while ago, people like aman bogle, who's a contributor to gb news and people like david campbell, bannerman, said they
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effectively banned him from standing. so there are ways they make it difficult, subtle ways. so it sounds a bit to me like like it's been that. i mean, why wouldn't they make it clear to him? yes we definitely want you to stand, you know, why would they leave it to the last minute and make it difficult? >> that's so weird, steve. can't we go back to the good old days when labour stood for the working class rather than the middle class? you know, because it's called labour and the conservatives were conservative. that would be great. just so that we have the choice. i'd like them both to do that, but sadly the system is edged itself into again, it's all about the parties get so close because otherwise if you're an outlier, you'd never win. so they all compete for the same ground. they have very the same policies. maybe if everyone just did what it said on the tin, maybe if the liberal democrats were, you know, liberal and democratic again, you know, i believe in sort of just if the greens were green. well, rather than going on about gender all the time, maybe talk about the planet again. well, there's other things they've been going on about recently. green peace be upon him i believe is a phrase okay. >> we're gonna this is true. >> we're gonna this is true. >> we're gonna this is true. >> we're going to move on to the daily mail now. and a protest in north london. nick, what's this ? north london. nick, what's this? >> well, it's pro—palestine and pro—palestine. i said
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pro—palestine. i said pro—palestine twice . i've gone pro—palestine twice. i've gone absolutely mad. pro—israel. what's the other one is? well, i don't i don't work. you're not up on this conflict, are you? i don't work with josh on us. i didn't know what the other one was called. so it's pro—israel and pro—palestine crowds clash outside historic north london cinema. hours after venue was daubedin cinema. hours after venue was daubed in red paint for showing film about hamas october 7th atrocity. so it's the old phoenix in east finchley, one of the oldest cinemas in london, built in 1910, opened 1912 and it's thought to be the oldest cinema in continuous use. so that's its claim to fame . but that's its claim to fame. but now it's a place where people fight about foreign conflicts outside . so because they showed outside. so because they showed this film, the supernova, the music festival massacre that was thought to be terrible, it's thought to be terrible, it's thought to be part of artwashing , which is this phrase. does that mean we've had sportswashing? now it's artwashing. you do art to try and promote a cause, a political. can you explain this to me though? >> because so the pro the pro—palestine protesters were saying, if you show this film, it's basically trying to cover up all of the atrocities that they claim are israel is committing. why can't you show a film about the massacre, the
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genocidal, maniacal pogrom that took place on october the 7th? without that being seen as, washing over something else? what's it got to do with that? yeah, you should be able to. i think you're speaking to the. we weren't on that protest. well did i say it in a tone that i wasn't accusing you? steve, i wasn't accusing you? steve, i was just i was just to wind up josh . but explain to me and also josh. but explain to me and also these people who are protesting, if they don't want to watch the film, they don't have to buy a ticket to the film . definitely. ticket to the film. definitely. that's that's a strong argument that they're way past. i think. also, while ever there are hostages not released, stop moaning about films. there's a perspective there, isn't there? like, oh, there's someone showing a film you disagree with. hostages need to be released, get some perspective. they they said they were going there for a vigil, but clearly turned up with some red paint to do some daubing. yes. i don't take paint on a vigil. i guess there's many questions in there. can i just say the one thing that did make me feel a bit more cheered by the attitudes? because there were protesters on both sides and there was some there's some friction. one man shouted to the pro—palestine
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protesters, f word scumb, protecting rapist f word paedophiles, and then chanted the w word. and that's the one. i did think east london in it. that's what you shout at people. london. yes. that's true. there's something going on with people's moral compass, isn't there? nick insofaras. you know, i've seen people posting images, horrible images of the hostages who were either killed , raped, who were either killed, raped, who were either killed, raped, who were either killed, raped, who were still in captivity, hopefully not dead , and i've hopefully not dead, and i've seen left wing activists retweet it saying, yeah , well, they it saying, yeah, well, they shouldn't have been dancing so near to, palestine , should they? near to, palestine, should they? they shouldn't have been so near to gaza. it's their fault, you know, real kind of a complete vacuum where your heart should be. and that's what i'm seeing, basically. what's going on there. >> people have lost their humanity in service of ideology. we saw it on the day of october 7th, when rivkah brown said it was a day of celebration and ever since then, we've just seen more and more of that. and you could say we've seen it on both sides, but certainly we've definitely seen that in the on the rally. >> yeah, but you say that. but i haven't seen anyone celebrating or the death of innocent people
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in, in gaza. i haven't seen that at all. >> no, i haven't seen that as much. i meant perhaps some would argue the you know, we've seen it in the overzealous response of israel . that's what they of israel. that's what they would say. >> right. but there isn't a moral equivalent here, is there? you know, i mean, we're talking about an army that is trying its utmost to avoid civilian casualties versus a terrorist group that uses rape as a weapon and murder, and specifically targeted civilians. and if you can't see the difference between those two things, i think there is something wrong with your moral compass. am i wrong? no. but i think if your moral compass is that faulty, of course you don't understand that a film should be shown. yeah, and also this thing of daubing it with red paint. i mean, i just think they did the same to the shoah memorial in paris, which i think is clearly anti—semitic. it's a clearly anti—semitic. it's a clearly anti—semitic thing to do. anyway, we're going to finish this section with the eye weekend and the international court of justice clear instructions for israel from them. >> yeah. halt! >> yeah. halt! >> un's top court orders israel to halt rafah offensive, citing immense risk. so this icj is not convinced that the evacuation
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efforts for palestinian civilians will be sufficient to alleviate the risk. israel's not actually said what it says here. they've not said what they will do to keep the population safe dunng do to keep the population safe during the evacuation of the city or provide food, water or sanitation. it's important for context before we plough on as well. the icj has no way of enforcing this ruling. so it's just words , right? but israel just words, right? but israel responded with anger, and its finance minister said that demanding that they stop the war is demanding the end of israel. there not demanding that you stop the war permanently. this is a whole until the details are coming in. they've also said the opposition leader said, that there's a moral collapse, moral disaster for failing to link the halting of the fighting with the freeing of the hostages. yes. i think whenever the discussion is had, the first thing that needs to be put out there so it can't be brought up later is of course, the hostages should be freed immediately. but again, when israel has the right to defend itself, it doesn't mean you can do absolutely anything. and if the only thing that's being asked for right now is details about how you're protecting the civilians. yes, this war doesn't have to stop this war doesn't have to stop this offensive doesn't have to. nick, what do you make of the argument that, you know, if they
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don't go into rafah and eliminate hamas, then this will, you know, they'll effectively giving a green light for hamas to repeat what happened on october the 7th. >> yeah. well, that is the argument now. it's either a total eradication of hamas or nothing . and the problem with nothing. and the problem with that is, although i can see that side of it along the way, you alienate more and more of the international community, which is i'm just trying to say that dispassionately. that's just what's happening with the rafah invasion. so that's that's the dangen invasion. so that's that's the danger, that's the risk of what netanyahu's doing. and i'm quite dispassionate because people are obviously highly emotional on both sides about this issue. but i'm kind of not. so i'm just trying to be very rational about it. >> yeah. nick, the sensible, rational one. >> that's me. >> that's me. >> that's me. >> that's you in a nutshell. okay, we're at the halfway point. do join us in part three for a row over literature. the police being shown up by a granny and a debate about razor blades in prison. don't go
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your first look at saturday's newspapers. we're going to begin this section with news that some italian kids are getting out of doing their homework. that can't be fair, can it, nick? >> yeah, well, this is one way it's backlash as muslim children in italy are exempted from studying dante. so the problem comes because he refers to mohammed and ali's cousin ali being in hell. he said, how is mohammed mangled ? before me? mohammed mangled? before me? walks ali, weeping from the chin, his face cleft to the forelock. so the thing is, the muslims don't want to read this. now. you could make an argument that they could just read it as literature or just without agreeing with it. you know, jesus isn't treated that well at times in the bible. we can still read it, which doesn't mean we are endorsing what happens. yes, in my book they could read it, but well, it is literature. not in their book, of course they should read the foundational book, foundational poetry of the italian culture. you would think so. but but no. and it's similar to the michaela school controversy about the prayers in this country . should controversy about the prayers in this country. should muslims be exempted from the rules about not following any religion in that school? the secular rules,
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they have very similar. that school? the secular rules, they have very similar . one they have very similar. one thing i really noted, though, was that in italy things are a little bit different to the latin in this country because the centre left party action, which means action, and i didn't pronounce it well , talked about pronounce it well, talked about this. they said this is not tolerance nor integration. it is the suicide of the west. can you imagine the centre left in this country talking like that? so they've everyone, all sides in italy have been vehemently against this, saying, of course you should study dante . i mean, you should study dante. i mean, they really like dante there, but well, as they should. >> but i mean, this is the point, is that if you if you start saying that we should exempt certain individuals from studying important classic works of literature, where does that end ? you'll have jewish students end? you'll have jewish students saying they won't study merchant of venice. you'll have as they said at michaelis school. as katharine birbalsingh pointed out, you'll have jehovah's witnesses saying, because they've complained, saying they don't want to study macbeth because of the witches and they don't support the occult. you know, actually, you've got to just get over, you know, this is why i think maybe secularism in schools is kind of important. what do you think? oh, this is the kind of story that really bothers me, because it's an example of people thinking they deserve extra rights because they're religious. >> yes.
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>> yes. >> i mean, firstly, it's fiction as well. this is not like an act. you don't even have to look at an actual thing. you're reading a thought that someone wrote down and made up. then again, religions are kind of based on fiction, so that's a weak point that i've got there. oh blimey, i you're going to wind nick up right now steve. i thought that atheist talking points was about 1960. >> whatever this exactly the same. >> yeah, yeah i think i don't have thoughts from 1960. i wasn't around, but these are the ones that i have now. no, it's the same argument that people had about banning the life of brian. you don't have special you're not precious because someone's offended your religion. and yet the people who were saying you shouldn't ban the life of brian should also be saying, just read this book. and also dante. you know, dante puts dante , puts his mates into hell, dante, puts his mates into hell, the ones that annoyed him in his lifetime . he gets back at them lifetime. he gets back at them by putting them in hell, being tortured in all sorts of ways . tortured in all sorts of ways. you know, there's always mates with mohammad zahedi saying, no, no, i'm not saying that. and also actually anyone who's non—christian is in hell, even some of the great, figures from pagan antiquity are in hell . pagan antiquity are in hell. >> because you mean in the poem. >> because you mean in the poem. >> in the poem, they're in the. you get people like homer and
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aristotle and cicero in the first circle of hell, which is like the best, the nicest bit of hell, because although they are really good people, they were unfortunately born before christ, so they couldn't have been baptised. so they have to been baptised. so they have to be in hell. so it can't be the argument to win the argument, though, do you know? i mean, it's like. but don't worry, he puts other people in hell too. no, you should be reading it because you shouldn't stop reading it just because it mentions your religion counter. >> steve's, yes. a horrific sort of anti—christian sentiment. i personally don't believe we should be secular. i believe england and britain are christian countries, so it's okay. the head of the king is the head of the church of england. it's okay to be christian and in muslim countries it's okay to promote those values. i don't think anything should have to be secular. >> that's my i'm just saying you don't get special rights for it, though you do in this country. >> christianity should have special rights because a christian country it should have. and in saudi arabia, islam should have special. yeah okay. >> but by that logic, should we be able to say, well, christians should be able to object to important literary texts on the bafis important literary texts on the basis of their faith. yes and not study them. well, that makes you a philistine. yes. no it doesn't. >> it makes me want a theocracy. >> it makes me want a theocracy. >> you want a theocracy ? >> you want a theocracy? >> you want a theocracy? >> well, at least you admit it.
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we're going to move on now to the guardian next. this is about a literary event. one of your favourite topics. yeah. hay festival . i thought it was festival. i thought it was a festival. i thought it was a festival about farming. i was wrong about that. i thought it's when they put the straw in the bales. hay festival drops main sponsor after boycott over israel and fossil fuel links. yes, the singer charlotte church and the comedian nish kumar are. now i see why i've been given this story. if you expect any inside goss. if there was a mash report whatsapp group , i was report whatsapp group, i was never asked to join it. yes. so the executive has said above all else, we must preserve the freedom of our stages and spaces for open debate and discussion where audiences can hear a range of perspectives. and we will do this by banning these sponsors . this by banning these sponsors. i mean, why is it that, you know, if authors say, i don't approve of the sponsor, the corporate sponsor of this particular event, why don't the organisers say, okay, well then just don't appear at the event. we'll get another author. there's loads of them. like, why do we care what charlotte church thinks? >> it's madness. i mean, they say this is preserving the freedom of our stages and spaces, like freedom, as you say, by cancelling things absolute insane orwellian nonsense. but also, i don't know
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loads about this particular sponson loads about this particular sponsor, but i look and go, charlotte church kumar, george monbiot. so i just go, it's all the worst people. so i just think the opposite. i mean, it's a simple heuristic . a simple heuristic. >> george turned up, though he didn't boycott it. well, this is oh, but he's but he's still saying some mental things. this is to do with the environment. of course, this is this is, what's it called, a baillie gifford? yeah. this so it is to do with the environment. they're worried about that. but they also link in palestine. and one of the spokespeople said they believe that that solidarity with palestine and climate justice are inextricably linked because it's the omnicorp's, you know, this phrase that's being used basically , they all run by used basically, they all run by a set of rules. if we support that, we have to support that. you've got to love megan. hence greta thunberg doing your thing. >> but watermelon. but if monbiot was a signatory to the fsb statement, that's what it was. >> but yet he still turned. he's still planning to turn up, but so the baillie gifford have actually said only 2% of the client's money are invested in companies with some links to fossil fuels. and compared to the average, the market average of 11. and the spokesperson said our clients set the parameters
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to determine what to exclude or divest, which actually means if you want this company to no longer invest its money in the causes you don't like, you should let them advertise or promote themselves at a place where there'll be loads of people who are like minded, like , i don't know, a literary, a literary festival. okay. all right, well, let's move on now to the times. and the word frumpy hasn't been heard in a while, so i'm glad it's back in the news. >> yeah, calling a woman frumpy could be sex harassment judge rules, not sexual harassment. it's sex harassment, which is just based on your sex, i guess. and this is the. it was a deputy director at greenland investment management. someone called huanhuan zhang, who claimed that, anyway, she was wearing these trousers. and the company's deputy personnel director said that she looked like a frumpy grandmother or aunfie like a frumpy grandmother or auntie . there's a slight auntie. there's a slight translation issue with the whole thing. no one quite knows exactly what was said, but it wasn't great. >> it's not very professional. >> it's not very professional. >> it's not very professional . >> it's not very professional. it's rude. it's not something you say. but of course, it's also , as you guys were both also, as you guys were both saying to me in the break, you know, the problem is women in the workplace , as we weren't the workplace, as we weren't saying that, nick, we were actually saying even more
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controversial things than that. but what i would say about this, you know, is that, you know, people talk about it's a free speech issue, and this is definitely not a free speech issue, because you sign a contract saying you're going to behave a certain way in the workplace, and that means you don't come into work and say, look at you, you're fat frump. yeah.i look at you, you're fat frump. yeah. i mean, the point that they're making about the translation means we don't know if it was frumpy grandmother or frumpy aunt, as if that would make it okay. oh, i'm a frumpy aunt, sorry. i didn't realise you meant. maybe that is different. yeah. it's not. is it? then it's not ageist. at least frumps the problem. and yeah, i don't think you should call people frumpy grandmas, but out of politeness , i don't out of politeness, i don't necessarily think you should. it should become a legal issue . no should become a legal issue. no no no no. yeah. we've also seen the workplace. you should be able to go off and call people frumps. yeah. however much you like. right but in the workplace, you've kind of agreed to impolite, only legal issue or just an agreement. we've not seen the trousers, though. we cannot judge on this. we haven't seen the trousers. you're right, nick, it shouldn't be a legal issue. it should be something that's settled within the company. surely. i would have thought anyway . whereas thought anyway. whereas harassment sounds like a crime. that would be not just an hr issue , i see. could you say the
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issue, i see. could you say the article also lists other things that judges have or haven't said are an issue? it's not racist, right? at the end of the story. it's not racist to say to japanese staff members, i like sushl japanese staff members, i like sushi. according to one judge, it depends on the accent. >> yeah, that was a recent story. yeah. >> okay. >> okay. >> we're going to move on now to this story about a granny steve, a vigilante granny. my favourite type of story, a bit like supergran. do you remember that? yeah, but not a frumpy granny. you can't say that these days. she was pretty frumpy. mine the. how very. dare you. i'll wring your neck. grandmother reprimanded by police after shouting at gate vandals. so teenagers broke jillian may's garden gate twice . 500 quid's garden gate twice. 500 quid's worth of repairs on this. blimey, she said, if i get my hands on him, i'll wring their neck. and the police rushed round to stop her. so the police went after the granny? yeah, for saying i'll wring your neck to the people trashing her, the teenagers trashing her gate. she's 70. disabled husband went out there to stop them. he fell oven out there to stop them. he fell over. they mocked and laughed at him. when she went round to pick him. when she went round to pick him up and by the way, you know, if you're a teenager and a disabled man and a 70 year old grandmother can wring your neck, you lost that fight fair and
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square. if your neck is so fragile that a granny can wring it, you had it coming, nick. the phrase i'll wring your neck is very, very common. i've used it to children at school as a teacher, right? it doesn't mean you're actually going to do it. if this grandmother was actually planning on murdering these teenagers, she wouldn't declare the method. so specifically . the method. so specifically. >> it's a great point, and a phrase i use a lot is in danger of becoming overused is anarcho tyranny. this is another example. it's a rather quaint engush example. it's a rather quaint english example, but it is an example of that. it's punishing the innocent and siding with the criminal. and this is the philosophy now that we live under, philosophy now that we live under , it's insane. under, it's insane. >> go on. can i just say they damaged the gate twice . they damaged the gate twice. they have asked for three of the fences to be taken into consideration. very funny, very funny. it's old school, but i'm sticking with it . well done sticking with it. well done steve, we're going to move on now. that is it for part three. but look, do come back because in the final section we're going to be looking at the controversial re—enactment costumes , a strange way to own costumes, a strange way to own your trumpet and a beer you've never heard of. see
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soon. welcome back to headliners. it's your final section and your first look at saturday's newspapers. we're going to start this section with the news that nick's weekend has been ruined . nick's weekend has been ruined. steve, what's this world war two event bosses defend reenactor dressed as nazis. that is even. i think that's harsh about nick. but dressing up. dressing up as the ss hitler youth concentration camp guards. this is in nottinghamshire. my old stomping ground. and it was. they had people on both sides. there were good people on both sides. if you are re—enacting a war, though, i suppose you do have to re—enact the other side. otherwise people would turn up and think why did this take so many years? yes, no one's even fighting on the other side. they had a swastika flag. a professor said, an expert in holocaust history said it seemed a bit celebratory. i'm presuming they didn't win at the end. i didn't see this particular re—enactment, but i guess they're staying at least that true to it. he also questioned the logic of people who want to spend time dressed up as a nazi.
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as a hobby. yeah, battle re—enactment people are weird. we get this. but you need the context. you do because it's a battle re—enactment and you dressed up like there would be nazis in the first captain america film. should we ban that now? no, because , you know, the now? no, because, you know, the context would be whitewashing the war if you just took the nazis out. i mean, you know, it'd be like, well, what was the problem then? it would be google gemini eyeing the backslider. >> this isn't nick. this isn't like, you know, prince harry, dressing up as a nazi with a swastika for a fancy dress party or something like that. >> was it a fancy dress party or something like that? anyway yeah, he had some story about that as well, though that was slightly redeeming, but i can't. >> oh was it. >> oh was it. >> oh, okay. >> oh, okay. >> but i'm just i'm just saying that that caused a big stir. yeah. yeah. but he wasn't. but if it's a battle re—enactment, it's a bit like if you're in a film about the nazis, don't you have to wear the nazi? >> i know people, those people in america love it, don't they? they do. the us civil war. they love doing that. i mean, the professor is complaining. he's saying they're wearing the swastikas in a way that seems a bit celebratory. and he's questioning the logic of people who spend money to dress up as a nazi, as a hobby. i think if it's part of a re—enactment, you can do it. if you start to
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develop policies about fixing the roads and stuff like that. yes, that for me is when you've gone too far. yeah. >> just because i've been to a lower low party and i dressed up as i didn't dress up, there were nazis there, but i dressed up as a and they were actual nazis and they were actual nazis. they didn't even know it was fancy dressed. you dressed up as the fallen madonna with a big no, no, no, i didn't. i dressed as, was it mimi? the little. >> no way. >> no way. >> that's more offensive, isn't it? is it me? no, i didn't, i was a renee. renee. anyway we're getting off topic. let's move on to the metro. now. apparently, people brag about being stressed. >> i know i do, and apparently that's why people don't like me. because it's stress. bragging at work has a major downside , work has a major downside, right? and one of the downsides is you're seen as less competent and less likeable. so it's good to know. but yeah, if you. >> i didn't give you this deliberately, nick. >> people say things, but you look, if you're because i have talked about being stressed, i mean, and this is saying why you shouldn't, but what's really complicated about it? all that complicated? you're seen as more competent if you're seen as stressed. so the problem is not being stressed, but the bragging is the problem. yeah, i believe so. i've got to stop bragging.
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>> well, i think a lot of people say self—pity is the most unattractive quality. and i think that's probably apart from having two heads or something. yeah. well i imagine two heads and they're both moaning about how stressed. oh yeah, that'd be. that's the thing. the whole article really overthinks it really. it's because if you moan about how stressed you are, you are annoying and that's it, you've got it. i mean, you know, you're tuning up because all i hearis you're tuning up because all i hear is me, me, me , you're hear is me, me, me, you're stressed out. man up. don't be stoic. don't people lack empathy? >> i mean, if you what if you are really stressed? >> i mean, do you not think that other people might be stressed as well? >> this is when people say a problem shared, shared is a problem shared, shared is a problem halved for you. but the person who's listening to you went from no problems to half a problem for some. do you think marcus aurelius went around saying, oh, i've had such a rough day. no, he got on with it. >> i'm not stressed anymore. people have been trying to cancel me. i've had all sorts going on. i'm totally chill. i'm i'm at one with the flow of the universe. >> me too. nick me too. okay, let's move on to the guardian now, and what's this about arab headdresses? we are very emotional , headdresses? we are very emotional, keffiyeh makers. bittersweet reaction to surge in demand. keffiyeh. i watched a video on youtube about how to
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say it . the video was called how say it. the video was called how to pronounce keffiyeh brackets correctly . i love that. is that correctly. i love that. is that the shawl thing? it's the. it's the shawl thing? it's the. it's the yasser arafat headdress, right? and everyone will know it from that reference. but i love the fact that the video is called how to pronounce it brackets correctly, as if anyone is going to search for the how to pronounce it incorrectly. you can do that on your own. you don't need a video for it, there's bella hadid woman. there's been a an increase in popular culture, i guess, and therefore an increase in sales. well, everyone's wearing them. greta thunberg's wearing one isn't. but isn't wasn't this isn't. but isn't wasn't this isn't this cultural appropriation? well, that's right down at the bottom of the article. the person making them said he receives loads of emails asking is it cultural appropriation ? and he says, no, appropriation? and he says, no, we draw a distinction. you draw a distinction when you're making some money about selling. actually, i think it was designed by an old white english guy, wasn't it? >> most things are. you mean you're asking a guy if it was, if it was cultural appropriation who just played a didgeridoo? yeah, but i find as an aborigine, he played it very well, though, as someone with aborigine roots. i found it incredibly offensive . incredibly offensive. >> oh, really? yeah. yeah. okay. well, let's let's move on to this story now. and this is a
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controversial drink. nick. >> yeah . pub that created osama >> yeah. pub that created osama bin lager has i give a big norm macdonald esque pause there for you to, osama bin lager has a new beer, and it's their most controversial yet. so it's a rural lincolnshire village pub. good old lincolnshire somewhere some of my family are from. they had a kim jong ale. pretty good. that's good. hootin porter , a that's good. hootin porter, a bit generic. and now the new one, which is really bad is the orange mussolini, which apparently is a cheeky nod. i don't why i'm talking like alan partridge towards donald trump. it's terrible orange mussolini. it's terrible orange mussolini. it's rubbish. doesn't work. it doesn't make sense. total fake news. they want to be controversial, immigrants . controversial, immigrants. stout. that would have been controversial. >> oh, that's good. >> oh, that's good. >> yeah, that would have been very outrageous. that's what they wanted. they wanted controversial beers. i think osama bin lager does work, doesn't it? yeah, because it's just it's good because it sounds quite like. and also he wouldn't have drunk the lager, you know, he would have been against that on religious grounds. so it works on a number of ways anyway . look, i think we've had enough
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of that look . that's all we've of that look. that's all we've got time for anyway. so let's have a look at the front covers again before we finish on saturday. so you've got the daily mail who are running with reeves. i'll never play fast and loose with your money, the telegraph has got inheritance tax against tory values, says hunt. the guardian is leading with un top court orders israel to halt assault on rafah. the times is leading with gove quits politics as more tories stand down the express now gove quits ministers shock exit rocks tories , tories very dramatic. tories, tories very dramatic. the daily star. we've beaten the curse of stories with snoring, with didgeridoos. that is all we've got time for. thank you to my guest, steve allen and nick dixon. we're back tomorrow at 11:00 with some other people. and if you're watching at 5 am, please do stay tuned because right now it's time for breakfast. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your
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latest gb news weather update this weekend. it's going to be a bit of a mixed bank holiday. the driest weather expected on saturday for most of us. we'll turn a bit more unsettled as the weekend goes on, but through this evening the pressure pattern really settles down and that will set us up for a much dner that will set us up for a much drier and colder night to come. tonight there are areas of cloud and rain we've seen across northern areas will slowly drift northwards through the next few hours, and these clearer skies across the south will become more widespread, pushing into parts of southern scotland by the morning. there's a chance of some mist and fog across some southern counties, and it's going to be a fresh start. as i say, temperatures could be down as low as three, 3 or 4 degrees across parts of wales, southern areas of england, as well, but it will warm up fairly quickly as the sun will shine . first as the sun will shine. first thing we could see some sunshine first thing across the north—east of scotland, where we're sheltered from that more southerly wind, thicker cloud though further south and west still some drizzly rain . but i still some drizzly rain. but i think things will improve
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