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gb news. >> are. >> are. >> hello and welcome to gb news saturday i'm dawn neesom. and for the next three hours, i'll be keeping you company on tv, onune be keeping you company on tv, online and on digital radio. keeping you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. cracking show coming up. but coming up this hour. >> tory mps.7 yes >> tory mps.7 yes >> then we're talking about them are now leaving parliament, a post—war record breaking exodus, with michael gove and andrea leadsom becoming the latest mps to announce they will not stand. >> but what does this mean for the prime minister? >> and then gen z police recruits? >> get this one. don't want to work overtime or weekends and rotors should take into account the work life balance. >> speaking of someone that's
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mugged yesterday, this is not a good thing, is it? responsible for youngsters to demand a better work life balance? >> and finally, and finally, there's football. >> that's what we are talking about. football. man city and man united will clash later today in the fa cup, with one team from manchester looking to create more history and the other attempting to salvage something from a fairly miserable season . hey, but this miserable season. hey, but this show is nothing without you and your views, especially on a bank houday your views, especially on a bank holiday weekend. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we'll be discussing and anything you want to talk about. basically, it's really easy. you visit gbnews.com forward slash. it's on the screen there . you'll it's on the screen there. you'll say and join the conversation. or you can message me if more simple on our socials @gbnews. but first let's get those news headunes but first let's get those news headlines with cameron walker. >> done. thank you. it's 12:01
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i'm cameron >> done. thank you. it's12:01 i'm cameron walker here in the gb news room. 78 conservative mps have now stepped down ahead of the summer election, which is a post—war record . and it also a post—war record. and it also surpasses the previous high, which took place prior to tony blair's victory for labour in 1997. it comes as the tories trail in the polls, with both main parties continuing their election campaigning today. economic secretary to the treasury bim afolami says a re—elected conservative government would bring economic growth. >> we've been very, very clear about the next parliament, which is a growth in public spending in real terms above inflation every year of the next parliament, and we set out our plans on how we're going to cut the double taxation on work by cutting national insurance and cutting national insurance and cut tax for people and have a better environment for small business. >> but labour's shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones, says chancellor jeremy hunt hasn't been clear about how he'll pay for the
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tories policies. >> getting into a bit of a habit of announcing unfunded tax cuts. they've already promised to aboush they've already promised to abolish national insurance altogether, costing £46 billion altogether, costing £46 billion a year, without saying how they're going to pay for that. are they going to cut pensions, the health service? are they going to increase income tax? we need to know the answers to that. and now jeremy hunt is saying that he thinks he wants to abolish inheritance tax as well. that's going to cost billions of pounds more on top each year . each year. >> next 20 million vehicles are on the move this bank holiday weekend, according to the latest estimates from the aa. there's already severe disruption around doven already severe disruption around dover, with huge queues heading to mainland europe. the port of dover says there's currently a two hour processing time at the french border, and is advising travellers to stay in their vehicles for their own safety . a vehicles for their own safety. a total ban on smartphones for under 16 could be considered by the next government after a new report by mps, the house of commons education committee says tougher guidance on phones, both in schools and at home, is needed to protect young people.
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it says the age of digital consent should be raised from 13 to 16, and goes further with a statutory ban on phones at school . a murder investigation school. a murder investigation has been launched after a woman was found dead on a beach in bournemouth last night. dorset police say they they were called to reports of two women stabbed on durley chine beach at around 11:45 pm. a 34 year old woman was pronounced dead at the scene while a 38 year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries. hollywood actor alec baldwin will stands trial as scheduled in july after a us judge denied a bid to dismiss a criminal charge against him. cinematographer halyna hutchins was killed in october 2021 after a prop gun fired when baldwin was holding it. he had previously pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. a separate case found that the handler of the weapon hadn't followed safety procedures, but the judge in baldwin's case rules that the grand jury was
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not prejudiced against him, clearing the way for an unprecedented trial of a hollywood actor for an on set death . russian president death. russian president vladimir putin is reportedly ready to pause his invasion of ukraine with a negotiated ceasefire that would recognise the current battlefield lines, according to four sources who've spoken to the news agency reuters. the russian president has grown frustrated by what he sees as western attempts to derail possible negotiations . derail possible negotiations. asked about the report during a visit to belarus yesterday, putin says talks should resume and negotiations should be based on the realities on the ground. ukraine's president zelenskyy has previously said that peace, according to putin's terms , is according to putin's terms, is impossible. now it's the biggest game in manchester as city and united meet once again in the fa cup final in front of a sell out wembley crowd. pep guardiola's side wants to follow up. last sunday's title triumph by sealing a domestic double.
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united head into the match with speculation about manager erik ten hag's future following their worst premier league finish, ending the season in eighth. now we spoke to some fans who gave us their predictions ahead of the big game. i think we've got to get it man united. >> we've not had a good season. we want to. we want the excitement , the way they've been excitement, the way they've been playing. >> i'd say 5050. >> i'd say 5050. >> bit nervous amount . i've not >> bit nervous amount. i've not had a great season but we weren't doing great and we still beat liverpool a few weeks ago. so anything can happen in 90 minutes can't it? >> it's derby day. i'm always nervous on derby day. obviously the added pressure of it being an fa cup final. >> for the latest stories sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts. now it's back to dawn on gb news. saturday. >> thank you very much, cameron. i've got a prediction a team from manchester will win. there you go, football pundit . as well
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you go, football pundit. as well as sitting here in a bright yellow jacket to cheer up your bank holiday. sorry. right. okay. what we're doing now, let's get stuck into into the show. so we talk about we're talking about now politics. i'm sorry. we have to. there's a general election. we've mentioned it a couple of times. might have got away with it. andrea leadsom has become the latest mp to announce she will not stand in the general election. in a letter to the prime minister the health minister said she had come to a decision after careful reflection but didn't go into much further detail . to be much further detail. to be honest with you, it comes very shortly after the other big hit up, michael gove, posted his resignation letter saying it's time for a new generation to lead. he's not that old, is he? now that makes a grand total of 78 tory mps are now leaving parliament, and that's a post—war , record breaking post—war, record breaking exodus. i can't think why they're doing it, can you? so joining me now to explain what is going on with this mass desertion is political editor tom harwood. lovely tom, thank you very much for joining us to explain. where are they going? what's happening ?
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what's happening? >> yeah, it's extraordinary, isn't it? 78, as you rightly say, a post—war record , the say, a post—war record, the number of tory mps not waiting to be kicked out by their constituents , but actually constituents, but actually choosing to go, perhaps choosing to jump before they're pushed. and of course, the two latest are big names, actually michael gove and andrea leadsom, two former leadership contenders holding various cabinet posts between them. but of course, they just add to a very long list of well known names, including ben wallace, nadhim zahawi, sajid javid, theresa may robert halfon, bill cash, graham brady, greg clarke, tracey crouch , mike freer, kwasi crouch, mike freer, kwasi kwarteng, brandon lewis, craig mckinley. i could go on, but i'd start to sound like i'm singing. we didn't start the fire, but honestly, this is a huge change of the guard in parliament. this is one of those big, big moments that actually, no matter how the country votes, there'll be lots of different mps because surely some of these seats will remain
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blue. but just with different faces. so no matter how the country votes, parliament will look very, very different in six weeks time. and that is a bit of a step change moment for our politics. >> tom, look, i'm no politician, right? you might have spotted it, mate, but i mean, you know, we had the election battle launched. >> oh, you know, politicians. i thought you were. i thought you were representing either the snp or the lib dems with the bright yellow. >> i recognise i'm representing a banana party today, but i mean, you know, we had it launched in the pouring rain. >> man doesn't use umbrella. i mean really? then we went to our, standing in front of the titanic sinking ship, and then we had him, rishi sunak , asking we had him, rishi sunak, asking the welsh whether they were looking forward to the euros when they haven't actually qualified, and now they haven't actually got anyone to stand in any of the constituencies. and it's getting less by the day. is anyone thinking this through? tom >> there is going to be an almighty rush to fill those places. by the time that
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nominations close, they've only got about a week to do it. so really, what cchq conservative campaign headquarters is doing now is compiling its sort of, premier list of candidates, because when there's a snap election, the central party has a lot more control. both the central labour party and the central conservative party have a lot more control over who gets plunked in various seats, and there's a lot less control to there's a lot less control to the local parties and the local members in both the lib dem, in both the labour party and the tory party. so what we're going to see probably is quite a few insiders, quite a few special advisers, what are known as spads in government. but also padsin spads in government. but also pads in the opposition political advisers. they will probably be plonked in to some of these plum seats , because ultimately, what seats, because ultimately, what happens when you have a very curtailed election period without the luxury of a long democratic process is the centre gets to choose more candidates. so that's an advantage if you're
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in the eyes of rishi sunak, you don't want perhaps some more maverick candidates being selected by local parties who might not toe the line, although i must say that if you're a if you're a voter, you might tend to prefer a bit of diversity. perhaps not all these candidates being pushed by number 10 or the leader of the opposition office, but sadly, that is what happens in snap elections . the only in snap elections. the only other thing that i think we should add is that the last two elections have been snap elections have been snap elections have been unexpected and relatively short campaigns. 2019 and 2017. and we saw what happened to the calibre of members of parliament when there isn't a long time to select and stress test mps , and when stress test mps, and when there's a landslide election, as there's a landslide election, as there was in 2019 or a surprise election result as there was in 2017, you get some pretty unknown quantities as well. getting elected to the green benches. getting elected to the green benches . and we've seen with the benches. and we've seen with the record number of suspensions from what we might term diplomatically as ramon mps, we
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might get some more of those this time round two. >> oh this rate, larry the cats in with a shout, honey. the other thing. but but but but jeremy hunt has a cunning plan . jeremy hunt has a cunning plan. according to the front of the telegraph today, inheritance tax is against tory values, says a man that's had 14 years to sort it out previously. so i mean , it out previously. so i mean, they keep going on about this. how big a deal is it, really? i mean, appealing to the middle classes, middle aged, who are mostly going to vote for them? in any case, is it really a big deal? tom >> they keep dangling this issue because this is you're right, this is not the first time that we've seen it on the front page of a national newspaper. it was around this time last year where they were also thinking about abolishing, inheritance tax, which is pretty high in this country compared to many european countries. but the yield , the yield is actually yield, the yield is actually about the same as france, which has about half the rate of inheritance tax. so there is quite a lot of, movement that could happen there within the bounds of reasonable fiscal
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policy. the trouble is that the treasury tends to think that actually there are better taxes to cut if you want economic growth. so there's the dilemma here in terms of philosophy versus perhaps economic incentives. so the treasury has been cutting national insurance, which it sees as a tax on jobs, to try and promote more people in more jobs. that's good for the economy. whereas of course , the economy. whereas of course, inheritance, there's a strong moral case that you should be able to pass things down to your children. but in terms of the economic activity that that stimulates, probably less so than cutting taxes on jobs. so that's the dilemma that the treasury has had. but i'll tell you what, dawn , cutting, you what, dawn, cutting, inheritance tax or abolishing it altogether is always consistently one of the most popular , tax cuts when polls popular, tax cuts when polls with brits . brits hate the idea with brits. brits hate the idea of a death tax, of not being able to pass things on to your children. so the question here
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is what will win out the idea of what is perhaps more economically, beneficial or what is more politically beneficial. and that will be a big, big one to watch in the manifesto. >> i can't wait, tom. you've sold it so well. i'm still on team larry the cat myself, to be honest with you. tom harwood. thank you very much for making it crisp and sexy and full of impact as much as you can with the election . thank you. and did the election. thank you. and did say election, by the way. thank you very much, tom. now joining me now is political commentator alex armstrong. to give us his opinion on what the hell is going on. i mean , you know, i've going on. i mean, you know, i've been full confession here, alex. i've been away. i mentioned my houday i've been away. i mentioned my holiday a couple of times already. i've been away. so i come back and it's like, oh my god, there's an election, in a month's time or six weeks time. so it's a bit of a shock to me. it sounds like it was a bit of a shock to rishi sunak as well, by the way, it's been launched, so what do you make of where we are now? i mean, we're what, three days in is it or is it four days?it days in is it or is it four days? it feels like a lifetime. >> i was going to say it does
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feel like a lifetime already, doesn't it? >> it's a problem. >> it's a problem. >> bonkers. i mean, we've already seen gaffes up to our eyeballs, you know, rishi at the airport being a saying about the palestine protests and all this stuff. >> the whales, as you mentioned, the euros not being wells, not being in the euros. >> so we've already seen the gaffes arise. >> but, you know, i think that this is going to be a very quick election campaign . i think we're election campaign. i think we're going. i think, you know, as tom was saying, there's going to be seats full of mps that people have never heard of before, after july the 5th, which is going to be a very interesting penod going to be a very interesting period of time. i think really, though , for me, the sense is though, for me, the sense is that the general public just don't know who to vote for, and they're going to be picking whoever they think is the lesser of two evils, rather than somebody with a vision for britain. i watched rishi sunaks speech at the podium . it was speech at the podium. it was deeply depressing. it was all i saved you during covid. i paid your bills, i got you furloughed . you should stick with me for that reason. and keir starmer was, oh, you don't want to stick with the tories. who's got a
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vision for this country? nobody has. nobody has got a bold vision for britain. and that's the difference between 1997 and today, tony blair came into power with a great vision for the country. and whether you agreed with him or not, the pubuc agreed with him or not, the public overwhelmingly came out to vote for him. neither keir starmer nor rishi sunak have a vision for britain, in my opinion. and it's very depressing. >> i think you're right. i think you're sorry. i think you've nailed it on the head there actually. it's like, oh my god, we've got six weeks. and after all this, we're still going to end up with either keir starmer or rishi sunak. >> i know what's what's in the manifestos. i mean, if i asked most people today, can you tell me what the parties are pledging, what each leader is telling you? they'll go absolutely not. i mean, they're both big states. they're both high tax . what's the difference? high tax. what's the difference? so you're voting for someone who maybe looks slightly more competent. it's bizarre. >> i tell you, i'm still going for the cat myself, to be honest with you right now. for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more, go to the website gbnews.com. very
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very simple. but there are a few parties we haven't actually mentioned. obviously we talked about the big two, but could this be the election of the smaller parties? reform uk are hoping to sway more traditional tory voters to their camp, and are even targeting some labour areas as well. meanwhile, george galloway's workers party of britain are trying to siphon off voters from starmers labour party to and even the greens. yes, they are still around, will be aiming for a powerful electoral presence spurred on by their best ever local election results earlier this month. so alex, could this go down in history? i'm thinking i know the answer to this one as some sort of david and goliath election where the smaller parties are really going to have much more . really going to have much more. say you're laughing already. >> yeah. no, no, it's not going to happen , unfortunately. and to happen, unfortunately. and i think it would be good if this happened because it's better to see broad representation of people's political views than than a party that's elected by, say, 20% of the of the electorate. but it's not going to happen. and it's not going to
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happen because of first past the post. there is we are a two state system, a two party system. we've always elected labour or the tories, with the exception being a hung parliament, obviously back in 2010 with the liberal democrats, and even then the parties were relatively aligned on their policies. so unfortunately, the way our system is set up is never going to allow those smaller parties to break through. i think what we're seeing is it goes back to my pnor seeing is it goes back to my prior point that people are fed up, so you probably will see the highest vote share for smaller parties in a very long time. >> and obviously we forgot about the war. we didn't forget actually, we're coming to it now. so it wasn't forgetting it. but the regional areas imply kumra have launched their campaign in cardigan and its leader ryan ashworth, said they are fighting for wales to be heard at westminster. so alison, one of the key words i guess for us going into this election is fairness and that takes many forms. >> fairness in funding to make sure that we get rid of the old barnett formula, that that doesn't work for wales. it hasn't worked for decades. fairness in terms of making sure
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that we have consequentials of hs2 rail funding so that we can build our infrastructure here in wales rather than be robbed of billions of pounds as we are now by the tories. and as labour say they will, will continue fairness so we can invest in our our future economy, for example, through making the most of our renewable energy, by having the crown estates devolved on so many levels. we have a desperate need to make sure that the uk government , whoever that is, is government, whoever that is, is aware of wales needs the way to make sure that we're not ignored at westminster is to make sure that plaid cymru is there shouting for us. >> i mean, yeah, shouting. i mean there's a lot of shouting to be done, isn't there to be honest with you. but i mean, if you are in wales or even scotland now, you may be thinking that westminster is a bit out of touch with with what you're thinking and how you're going to vote. so maybe, as you've quite rightly said, labour conservative, i mean, you know, are there is there any difference between them at the moment? but maybe , i mean, you
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moment? but maybe, i mean, you know, a party like plaid cymru are in with the sharp people in wales are going. right. well, labour haven't actually done this that much. the tories don't even seem to know where wales is, let alone for in any football competitions, so maybe it's a smaller parties like placoderm that are gonna actually get their voices heard, get people listening. >> well, i certainly think the message will penetrate better, because what a labour and tory is going to tell us the things that we already know. i mean, things that are clearly not massive vote winners because no one's going to be showing up to vote for them other than their their core base of voters. so they certainly will capture the imagination of, of some of those, undecided voters, let's say , i mean, i'd say this about say, i mean, i'd say this about primary and the snp, whenever those nationalist parties have got into government, they tend to have, you know, not done a great job. in my opinion. >> they haven't covered themselves in glory. i think that's fair to say. yeah, yeah. >> but, you know, that's not saying every small parties like that. of course not. i think that. of course not. i think that the, the key, the key message that these parties will be trying to put across is that we are different. we are the change labour can hold up these
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change labour can hold up these change signs all they want, but we know what they stand for. we've seen them in government and we've seen them in government in wales and it's done. it's not been too great there. look at the nhs waiting times, for example. they're through the roof in wales. they're the worst in the country. so if that's anything to go by then obviously if they apply that to the rest of the uk, they'll see the same result replicated. people are just fed up. they want a change, but they're not inspired by anybody . they're not inspired by anybody. i don't think they're massively inspired by reform. i don't think they're massively inspired by the green party. people are saying, who do i vote for? what's the point in voting? because i'm going to get the same, same, whatever happens? and can i beat labour or can my candidate beat labour or the tories in this seat? and even if they are, they're one mp, they're one mp against the government who are who are not going to listen to them. george galloway is a good example of this. right yes. you know, most people think he's nuts. if you look at his his yougov polling, most people think he's nutty. that's that's that's his popularity rating. but his local area love him. and they'll want that feeling replicated across the country . but it's not the country. but it's not shared. so this is why those key
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critical small parties that will have those distinguishing voices will never get full representation because they focus on local issues . focus on local issues. interesting points there. the way to make it crisp and sexy and full of impact, by the way, is to play election bingo every time you hear someone say the word change or for the working man, tick it off your bingo card. believe me, it works honestly. but there's another interesting thing you can do right now £20,000 has to be won in our great british giveaway and you don't want to miss out, do you? lines are closing this friday, i believe. so here's all the details you need for your chance to win this cash . chance to win this cash. >> it's the final week to see how you can win a whopping £20,000 cash. and because it's totally tax free, every single penny will be in your bank account to do whatever you like. with £20,000 in tax free cash really could be yours this summer. hurry as lines close on friday, you've got to be in it to win it for another chance to win £20,000 in tax free cash.
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what's the phrase? yeah, toughen up a bit. all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel with
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not in a minute. oops. nearly caught out there. welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. on a wonderful bank holiday weekend. hope you're having a wonderful time taking it easy. which is exactly what gen z police recruits want to do , because recruits want to do, because they don't want to work overtime or weekends and rota should take into account their work life balance , chief superintendent balance, chief superintendent rob hay says young people have a different expectation of work life balance and police forces must alter their working demands if they are to appeal to gen z. that's those born in 1997 or later. i've got hand—bags older than that. so is it reasonable for the youngster to demand a better work life balance, or do they just need, if they want to
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be coppers, to toughen up and get out there and do the job, because criminals aren't worried about their work life balance, are they? i'm calm. someone nicked my phone yesterday, by the way, and i'm still very, very angry. but joining me now to talk seriously about this and his story, rather than ranting, is former scotland yard detective peter bleksley peter. thank you so much for coming in and looking incredibly dapper. i have to say thank you. thank you. i've just been told i'm too yellow and peter is wearing a matching flower , so stick that matching flower, so stick that in your pipe. now, what do you make of this story? i mean, you're a former cop, you know, you're a former cop, you know, you walk the walk, talk the talk. of course. did you get free yoga lessons? no, i certainly didn't. >> and, work life balance , of >> and, work life balance, of course, wasn't an expression that had been dreamt up back in my day. >> it was work, work, work, work. >> and when you had the opportunity to play, play extremely hard by way of some form of compensation, however, time moves on. >> i appreciate that, but this really strikes for me at the heart of selection recruitment and training. these young
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people's expectations need to be made aware of what they will face in law enforcement . for face in law enforcement. for example, billy smart's circus would not employ a 30 stone person to be a tightrope walker , person to be a tightrope walker, would they? so the police should not employ people that actually think it is a divine right to have weekends off, not work shift patterns, and not do overtime . it's a very necessary overtime. it's a very necessary and important part of policing that you might be called upon at any moment to work beyond your hours. >> but i mean, this is actually, you know, to encourage more youngsters to join the police force. we know that , you know, force. we know that, you know, all police forces across the country are struggling to recruit youngsters. but i'm just thinking, is this the right way to go about it? i mean, how are they ever going to manage crime if they clock off at 5:00, pay them properly, tell them that this is a job, generally speaking, in which you will never get rich or universally popular. >> but if the federation
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actually fights properly and get decent pensions like they were not so many years ago, then young people can be told they will be rewarded after 30 years service, for example. i know that's been extended, right? they should be told you'll get a decent pension which will help you in later life. all the other benefits of being a cop, save schemes they can enter. i know they're shouting at the telly now because they're using food banks and the suchlike. make the job attractive . young people job attractive. young people will come and do it. do not burden them with unnecessary paperwork. support them managers, sergeants, inspectors and above support your front line. they are the people going out there every day, putting their lives in danger to support them, treat them properly, pay them, treat them properly, pay them properly, look after them and young people will suddenly find it a far more attractive proposition. >> so basically this this has come from a conference, by the way. there's a senior officer
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saying, you know, we need to i mean, it's like, you know, try to schedule in yoga and time for sex with your partners. hello. anyone ever had that in their job contract ? job contract? >> but i mean, it's beyond nonsense really. and of course, these senior officers, they love conferences and they love buffets, right. because that's where they waste. so much of their time. where they waste. so much of theirtime. if where they waste. so much of their time. if they were actually having some kind of grasp of what frontline policing was, if some of them had done it for any length of time, instead of hurriedly climbing that greasy pole of promotion to get away from the rough and tumble of frontline policing which so many of them thought was way beneath them, then they'd have a greater understanding of the demands, the pressures, what the job entails , and they'd have job entails, and they'd have more affection. yes, affection and respect and regard for their frontline police officers, and they'd look after them a lot better. >> well, said peter, just very quickly, peter, law and order is obviously a big issue for both parties. keir starmer has been talking about it a lot this
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week. certainly in rural areas as well, where it has been neglected. i think just very quickly running out of time. which party do you think would be the best for law and order in this country? >> i dread whatever our party will come in a government and i dread whatever's going to happen to the already failing criminal justice system. >> i was somehow expecting the answer from you, peter, very passionate there to look after our cops on the beat to an amazing job. thank you very much, peter. i really appreciate your time. right. well i'm dawn neesom with the fringe on gb news saturday and there's lots more coming up on today's show. but first, here's the news with cameron walker, who hasn't got a fringe . fringe. >> thanks, dawn. it's 1232. fringe. >> thanks, dawn. it's1232. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom . 78 conservative mps newsroom. 78 conservative mps have now stepped down ahead of the summer election, which is a post—war record . it also post—war record. it also surpasses the previous high, which took place prior to tony blair's victory for labour in
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1997. it comes as the tories trail in the polls , with both trail in the polls, with both main parties continuing their election campaigning today. economic secretary to the treasury bim afolami says a re—elected conservative government would bring economic growth . 20 million vehicles are growth. 20 million vehicles are on the move this bank holiday weekend, to according the latest estimates from the aa. there's already severe disruption around doven already severe disruption around dover, with huge queues leading to the port heading to mainland europe. the port of dover says there's a two hour processing time at the french border, and is advising travellers to remain in their vehicles for their own safety. a total ban on smartphones for under 16 could be considered by the next government after a new report by mps, the house of commons education committee says tougher guidance on phones and schools and in in homes is needed to protect young people. it says the age of digital consent should be raised from 13 to 16 and despite today's sunny skies,
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thunderstorms and possibly hail could be on the way later this evening. sorry about that. the yellow warning has been issued from midday tomorrow, with heavy showers possible across large parts of england and the north of wales. but the met office expects the wet weather to settle into light . patchy settle into light. patchy showers in time for the bank houday showers in time for the bank holiday monday . showers in time for the bank holiday monday. for showers in time for the bank holiday monday . for the latest holiday monday. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts now it's back to gb news saturday with dawn. >> thank you very much. cameron, who is now desperately brushing his hair in the corner over there. i love cameron now remember you can let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're talking about today, including cameron's hair, my hair, what colours we're wearing . anything's up for grabs, just .anything's up for grabs, just visit gbnews.com forward, slash your state and join the conversation. or message me. be nice on our socials @gbnews there's lots more coming up on today's show and we are talking
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football . it's the fa cup final football. it's the fa cup final with a manchester derby at the home of football wembley. but who will emerge victorious ? all who will emerge victorious? all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and
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>> if you want your news to be straight talking. >> this is a nightmare for the conservatives. again, down to earth. >> it's not just nottingham where this is happening, is it? >> and most importantly, honest , >> and most importantly, honest, hard working middle class taxpayers. they'll get the buck thrown at them. >> they catch me martin daubney monday to friday, 3 to 6 pm. on gb news. britain's news channel . gb news. britain's news channel. >> and we're back in the room. welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your telly online. and on that though digital radio. now it's the weekend , it's the fa cup final. weekend, it's the fa cup final. man city and man united will clash later today in the fa cup final, with one team looking to
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create more history and the other attempting to salvage something of a miserable season. it has to be said, pep guardiola. city want to follow up their title triumph by sealing a premier league fa cup domestic double again in front of a sell out wembley crowd, while united are heading to the home of football with speculation about manager erik ten hag future following a shocking season for the red devils. i can say that as a west ham fan, so let's head up to manchester now to speak to our nonh manchester now to speak to our north west of england reporter sophie reaper, who is there living the high life in manchester? sophie, how's it going? what's the atmosphere like ? like? >> well, the atmosphere is starting to build here in manchester. we joined the fans this morning as they started making the journey down, and fans are now heading into the city centre. and joining me now are two of those fans. good afternoon to you andrew and carl. now andrew is a man city fan and carl is a united fan. so we're hoping to not have any trouble between the two of you. ihope
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trouble between the two of you. i hope you're both going to behave for me. we'll do that. yes. there we go. the two best behaved united and city fans in manchester. we've managed to find here. andrew, i'll come to yourself first. and excellent season for city last year with the treble . not quite as good the treble. not quite as good this year. but what are your thoughts today. are you nervous. are you excited. what are we thinking. >> well look we started off badly this season, but the last well say since december, i mean, we've not lost a game, so . we've not lost a game, so. >> so, what am i thinking today? i don't think there's a city fan in the country that's worried. >> really? oh that's such strong words that. >> carl, what are your thoughts? obviously, you are coming in as the underdogs, not a great season. in fact, the worst season. in fact, the worst season for united in premier league history. what are your thoughts? derby day could be anyone's game. >> it's a final end of the day. it's a final isn't it? i think we are massive underdogs. we've been really poor this season, a lot of reasons behind it, but we're a mile behind them as a club at the moment. but it's a final if you can't get up for it and can't have a go at it, then
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there's something clearly wrong. so i mean, i think it can be 5050, i'll always back united, especially in the final. we've we've got to. so we'll just see. we'll see what happens. >> this is the 193rd time united and city have faced one another in a competition. what's that feeling like coming into a manchester derby? how much pressure is there really ? pressure is there really? >> i think i think there's bigger derbies for the manchester united fans, but it's a final. i think regardless whether it's whether you play anybody but it , it's massive whether it's whether you play anybody but it, it's massive and you know it's massive for us to end on a bit of a high maybe, you know, and maybe, you know, this is, this is one of the greatest manchester city teams, one of the best teams in the premier league we've ever seen. so to maybe put a little nail into them in a final and stop them winning another trophy would be would be massive for us, so yeah, just just go enjoy the day haven't you. you know what i mean? just go enjoy the day. >> i'm sure when you say there are bigger derbies, you might be referring to the united liverpool derby. both manchester
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teams. >> it's liverpool. >> it's liverpool. >> oh really. well let's let's ask a city fan do you think. what do you think united city or city. liverpool which is a bigger deal. which derby animal. >> well i think united city has got so much history that our derby is always going to be, against united. but when it comes to the fans , i've got comes to the fans, i've got a lot more respect for united fans. well, the ones from manchester, so look, it's a mix. the team that have been there. so yeah, the team that's been the problem for us the last ten years. it's been liverpool. but united city has got the history. >> i'll just quickly ask you because we've got to wrap it up. but let me quickly ask you score predictions two one united okay. >> yeah. look i think united will get a goal on a breakaway. three one city. >> wow. so you'll take it back very interesting there from a city and a united fan. well i hope you both have a good day. anyway, i'll try and stay unbiased . unbiased there, thank unbiased. unbiased there, thank you very much, gents .
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you very much, gents. >> let's look about i love that. thank you very much. sophie. live in manchester there. i'm to talking a very, very well—behaved man city fan and a very well—behaved man united fan. it has to be said, and let's be honest , the fa cup let's be honest, the fa cup magic might have been lost recently, but it's still a cracking day out whether you lose, and west ham have managed to do that a few times as well. right. so let's go to wembley stadium now, which is where the game is actually taking place, where we have gb news reporter jack carson. jack. hello. what's it like where you are? right now ? >> well, 7- >> well, it 7 >> well, it certainly ? >> well, it certainly got busy in the last hour. >> that's a fact. dawn as fans charged down here on olympic way, on wembley way towards, of course, that famous wembley arch, a sea of blue and red filling this part of london, and certainly a lot of nerves too. >> those nerves certainly travelled with those fans that have come down, all the way from manchester today, for the game, we've been taking the temperature of a few of them a little bit earlier on. take a listen. >> now, being in wembley in a
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fantastic stadium, yeah . it's fantastic stadium, yeah. it's a it's a fantastic feeling, we've never been to a final before. so you know obviously when you, when you go to an event like this, you want to win. but to be fair, we're going to have to just enjoy the day if we turn up in. i think the players will be motivated. even if ten hag is going, he'll want to leave united with two trophies in two years to keep his stock high. >> it's about the defence we've got to defend well, better than we have done all season . we have done all season. >> of course, it's the view behind me right now that of course they are going to be arriving and walking towards that famous wembley arch. and the famous wembley pitch is certainly going to hold host to a cracker today. >> as you were mentioning, manchester city coming off a title win, of course, last week , title win, of course, last week, they're riding high. they could be the first team to actually win the double two years in a row. so pep guardiola recognised that in his pre—match press conference, recognising the history that could be made here today and erik ten hag. of course he knows he's under
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pressure. a win might just save his job, but it might also not even be enough. >> of course, you remember louis van gaal still lost his job after he won the fa cup with manchester united against crystal palace. >> all those years ago, so eric ten hag knows he needs to win, mainly for manchester united to still get european football as well. >> if they if they do lose to city today, the likes of chelsea and certainly the cab driver, mark, who got us here to wembley today, he's a chelsea fan. he'll be hoping that city win so they can get europa league. >> newcastle fans will be hoping city win so they can get the europa conference league, so there's so much on the line today. it's not just a manchester derby , it's not just manchester derby, it's not just an fa cup final. there's so much more to play. >> it's going to be a cracker a little bit later on. >> and jack promised me you're going to get at >> and jack promised me you're going to get a t shirt and a pair of shorts on because you do look a bit overdressed and a bit warm there, with everyone wandering past having a good time. jack carson in wembley. we'll be coming back to you later as we get closer to the big kick off. indeed. and sofa will be joining us from manchester again as well, okay. well, this is gb news saturday. i'm dawn neesom and there's loads more coming up on today's show. of course it is the fa cup final today, but it's actually a
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really big sporting weekend across the board. so stay tuned to find out what else is on this weekend. all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel .
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hello and welcome back to gb news. saturday, dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. and you might have heard me talking about hanging off a lamppost now, but it's honestly, it's a good reason , because it's it's a good reason, because it's fa cup weekend. and when west ham won that, i hung off a lamppost. in any case, another story for another day. but it is actually a big sporting wind across the board as well. it's not just the wembley game. so at 3:00 we've got the old firm scottish cup final kicking off at hampden park as rangers take on celtic first time the two teams have met in the final for competition 22 years, i think. so that's going to be an interesting game and it's a busy weekend in tennis too. as the
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french open kicks off a roland—garros tomorrow, rafael nadal and andy murray will both take to the clay for the final time of the tournament before retiring, and f1 fans are also set for the entertainment as the monaco grand prix, the most glamorous one on the calendar, gets underway at 2:00 tomorrow afternoon . wow, that's a lot of afternoon. wow, that's a lot of drink. sorry, a lot of watching sports to be getting through, isn't there that joining me now to get the latest on all of that is sport broadcaster journalist and all round good egg aidan magee aidan. there's so much to get through i'm going to wembley later on down to wembley. that's the end of that conversation. i'm just cancelling straight away. >> no no no no i want to know. >> going to wembley. >> going to wembley. >> yeah, well i think we're going to, we're going to show the viewers in a second what an fa cup final ticket looks like for those who haven't seen one. >> okay. we've got the offer i've got, i was offered it yesterday somebody who fancied some good company at the final. so i didn't know anybody else. so i didn't know anybody else. so i didn't know anybody else. so i suggested myself. right. >> and i would have, i would have i mean, you know, i'm married to a half breed. >> my husband is half manc. so i
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mean, man city, my father in law from. all right, from main road when man city were really, really bad. yeah, but no, i paid £145, i thought, i mean, it's a lot of dough, but a lot of money. >> it is. >> it is. >> but i just thought, you know, it's not every day he gets to go to a cup final. it's the first one i've been to as a as a fan, if you like, or as a neutral, you know. but i've been to lots before, but they've always been working so it would be a different experience. >> it is completely different going, oh without doubt. >> i mean normally normally you are look and there's the yeah there's the, there's the, there's the, there's the, there's a lot of, there's a lot of words on that ticket. i know, i know there was well there's a, there's actually a message on there's actually a message on there saying that be be careful if you go to, to stage five or level five because you might if you suffer from vertigo. so it says that it does say that. does it. really. yeah. on that bottom right hand side i don't know if the viewers can see it there, especially the benefit of our radio listeners is there's a note on there that says if you're worried about suffering from vertigo, don't go to the fifth. it's a bit late. if you've already bought your ticket. >> yeah, quite. but the benefit of the radio listeners, it actually looks like a contract full of terms and conditions rather than just that's what it is. that's what it is, isn't it? i guess it's these days that's
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the thing, isn't it? >> but loads, loads of else going on, as you mentioned. >> let's talk about scotland. yes, absolutely. >> yes it is. well look, i mean you mentioned in the, in the link just then it is 22 years since they've made the scottish cup quite extraordinary when you can think how dominant the clubs have been over that period of time. i remember that game. it was a32 win for rangers at hampden park, where they're playing today. peter lovenkrands getting the last minute goal there. i think barry ferguson scored as well. and so as i say a long time, yes okay. the rangers spent a few, spent a few years outside the top flight, but not enough to really to really not still not be surprised by this. but i expect celtic to win today largely because they've just won the league. they want a crest of a wave, rangers struggled in the last month of the season. that's where they blew their title hopes. i think in april they were probably the favourites to go on and win it for the first time or second time in just in 13 years. so, it's the games against each other, dawn, where rangers struggle c.l.c have had seasons like this in the past, where they've done well in the league, but they just couldn't beat rangers, which is the big one. graeme souness always said he was the manager of rangers for, for five years. he said that it's so much to rest on those four matches against each other. rangers took one point from 12 available against celtic this season and that was enough really for celtic to go and win
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their 12th title in 13 seasons. so they're chasing a double this today. rangers also chasing a double because they won the league cup earlier in the season. but as i say, promises to be a brilliant occasion. but brendan rodgers very, very confident. i think , philippe confident. i think, philippe clement might, if they lose today , it's difficult. it's today, it's difficult. it's going to be difficult going into next season. i'll put it that way. although generally speaking he's made good progress. but it's all about beating celtic. it's all about win the league. and so far they've done neither exactly. >> yeah, it's always about the managers isn't it. whether they're going to last. well that's because into the game in some cases that's because that's because if the players the real problem, they're the ones who cross the line. >> yeah. but it's cheaper to replace one bloke. are you the manager than it is to replace the whole team? man united needs to replace most of their team, but they're probably going to have another roll of the dice in terms of changing their manager, as we mentioned earlier. >> well good luck. let's hope it all goes well and behave yourselves up there, i'll behave myself as well. don't we? >> at wembley i had i had every faith in you behaving yourself. you're very smart, you know, like you're going for a fight, talking of managers, mr rooney, what's he up to, then? >> failing upwards. that's what he's doing. he's. he keeps. he keeps going everywhere . like
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keeps going everywhere. like derby a couple of seasons ago. a bit unfair there. they had a severe points handicap. yes, but he did okay there. but then the number two at the time, guy called liam rosenior has done very well since. and so inevitably in football, you start to think, was he the one doing the good job or was it rooney was really just a figurehead, a disaster at birmingham city, up half the first half of last season or certainly after the first couple of months when he was appointed, they were sixth in the table and he was appointed. they then lost nine, nine out of 15 games under him. they couldn't turn it around. and birmingham city went down to the third tier of engush down to the third tier of english football for the first time, i think since 1995, a disaster for a club that has real ambitions to re—establish itself into the premier league and possibly even beyond. and so he looks like he's going to go to plymouth, replacing ian foster, who, you know, he wasn't . ian foster didn't do well at the end of last season where they just about stayed up by the skin of their teeth. but they were promoted newly promoted last season. and it's look it's a good it could be a good move for him if it goes well. but it's a tough gig down there. >> well we just wish everybody out there doing whatever sport you're watching or taking part
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in today at the very best of luck, right. we're running out of time on. >> nice to see you, though. >> nice to see you, though. >> have a fantastic time at wembley, i'm dawn neesom sukh gb news saturday, and there's loads more coming up on today's show. but first, let's take a look at the for weather you with greg dewhurst . dewhurst. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar. sponsors of weather on gb news. who's . news. who's. >> hello there! >> hello there! >> welcome to your latest for weather gb news. over the next 24 hours it's all changes. weather gb news. over the next 24 hours it's all changes . areas 24 hours it's all changes. areas of rain moving from the atlantic. some heavy showers developing as well. and that's all thanks to low pressure which is going to dominate through the rest of the bank holiday weekend. areas of rain, some heavy showers and we can see that rain already pushing into some western areas. today's rain still lingering across eastern parts of england, pushing its way northward , some heavy bursts way northward, some heavy bursts possible into the early hours . possible into the early hours. as we can see, most areas cloudy outbreaks of rain pushing northwards, but this will keep temperatures up for most,
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staying in double figures, turning breezy around the coast and over the hills as well, so it means a bit of a grey start to sunday morning. some glimmers of sunshine, perhaps first thing across southwest england, but let's take a look at the details. for sunday morning. we can see a dry start across northern scotland. 1 or 2 spells of sunshine but rain across the central belt, southern parts of scotland into northern ireland. some of this heavy at times. two temperatures on the mild side. to start the day we can see cloudy across the rest of england and wales, two outbreaks of rain in places, but some sunshine developing from the southwest, and these brighter skies will slowly push northwards as we move through the day on sunday, with the rain becoming more confined to the northern half of the uk. further south, though, we will see some heavy thundery showers develop, particularly across parts of england and wales. these could lead to some local disruption , lead to some local disruption, some hail, some localised flooding as well. temperatures are a little lower compared to saturday. generally, the mid to high teens locally up to around
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about 21 degrees across south east england into the evening time.
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next. hello and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm dawn neesom . for saturday. i'm dawn neesom. for the next two hours. we keep you company on tv, online and on digital radio. keep you up to date on the stories that really matter to you . coming up this matter to you. coming up this houn matter to you. coming up this hour, 78 tory mps are now leaving parliament. a post—war record breaking exodus, with michael gove and andrea leadsom becoming the latest big beast mps to announce they will not stand. but what does that mean for the prime minister then? the average annual energy bill is set to drop by £122 in july. yay! under new ofcom price cap. that's according to energy regulator. the price cap takes effect from july until the end of september. but what does it
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mean for the pennies? literally the pennies left in your pocket and manchester city and man united will clash later today in the fa cup final, with one team looking to create more history and the other attempting to salvage something from a miserable season. but this show is nothing without you and your views. it's not about me, it's about you. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today by visiting gbnews.com. forward slash on your screen there and have your say. join in the conversation or message me on our socials @gbnews. but first, let's get those all important news headlines with bank holiday weekend with cameron walker . weekend with cameron walker. >> dawn thank you. it's 1:01. >> dawn thank you. it's1:01. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer says the voting should be lowered to include 16 and 17
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year olds. speaking to reporters on the campaign trail today , the on the campaign trail today, the labour leader said that if you can work and pay tax then you ought to be able to vote. it comes as both major parties pitch their message to voters on the first weekend of the election campaign, shadow chief secretary to the treasury darren jones took aim at what he called the tories habit of making unfunded promises. >> getting into a bit of a habit of announcing unfunded tax cuts. they've already promised to aboush they've already promised to abolish national insurance altogether, costing £46 billion altogether, costing £46 billion a year, without saying how they're going to pay for that. are they going to cut pensions, the health service? are they going to increase income tax? we need to know the answers to that. and now jeremy hunt is saying that he thinks he wants to abolish inheritance tax as well. that's going to cost a billions of pounds more on top each year . each year. >> well, 78 conservative mps have now stepped down ahead of the summer election, which is a post—war record. it also surpasses the previous high, which took place prior to tony blair's victory for labour in 1997. it comes as the tories
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trail in the polls, with both main parties continuing their election campaigning today. economic secretary to the treasury bim afolami ummi says a re—election. a re—elected conservative government would bnng conservative government would bring economic growth. >> we've been very, very clear about the next parliament, which is a growth in public spending in real terms, above inflation every year of the next parliament, and we set out our plans on how we're going to cut the double taxation on work by cutting national insurance and cutting national insurance and cut tax for people and have a better environment for small business. >> but shadow chancellor rachel reeves suggests tory failures have damaged the economy. >> liz truss's mini—budget, a conservative's mini—budget, crushed the economy , sent crushed the economy, sent mortgage rates spiralling and put pensions in peril . and the put pensions in peril. and the government's decisions to get rid of things like the gas storage facility to fail to invest significantly in renewable energy, meant that we were exposed when the when
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russia invaded ukraine and in some breaking news in the last few minutes, a 17 year old boy from lancashire has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman was found dead on after a woman was found dead on a beach in bournemouth last night. >> dorset police say they were called to reports of two women stabbed on durley chine beach at around 1145 last night. a 34 year old woman was pronounced dead at the scene, while a 38 year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries . a 20 with serious injuries. a 20 million vehicles are on the move this bank holiday weekend, according to the latest estimates from the aa. there's already severe disruption around doven already severe disruption around dover, with huge queues heading to mainland europe . the port of to mainland europe. the port of dover says there's currently a two hour processing time at the french border, and is advising travellers to stay in their vehicles for their own safety . vehicles for their own safety. hollywood actor alec baldwin will stand trial as scheduled in july after a us judge denied a bid to dismiss a criminal charge against him. cinematographer
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halyna hutchins was killed in october 2021 after a prop gun fired when baldwin was holding it. he had previously pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. a separate case found the handler of the weapon hadnt found the handler of the weapon hadn't followed safety procedures, but the judge in baldwin's case ruled that the grand jury was not prejudiced against him, clearing the way for an unprecedented trial of a hollywood actor for an on set death. it's the biggest game of in manchester, as city and united meet once again in the fa cup final in front of a sell out wembley crowd. pep guardiola's side wants to follow up last sunday's title triumph by sealing a domestic double. united head into the match with speculation about manager erik ten hag's future following their worst premier league finish, ending the season in eighth. well, we spoke to some fans who gave their predictions ahead of the big game . the big game. >> i think we've got to get it. man united we've not had a good
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season. we want to. we want the excitement . excitement. >> the way they've been playing, i'd say 5050. >> bit nervous. i've not had a great season, but we weren't doing great and we still beat liverpool a few weeks ago . so liverpool a few weeks ago. so anything can happen in 90 minutes, can't it? >> it's derby day . minutes, can't it? >> it's derby day. i'm minutes, can't it? >> it's derby day . i'm always >> it's derby day. i'm always nervous on derby day. obviously the added pressure of it being an fa cup final. >> for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to dawn on gb news . saturday. >> thank you very much , cameron. >> thank you very much, cameron. i've got a treat in store for you and they're already playing me up. i'll tell you that much. right? let's get straight into today's story, shall we, now i want to break into bob marley's song exodus , because that's song exodus, because that's exactly what's happening. i don't hate you enough to sing, so i'm not going to. andrea leadsom has become the latest mp to announce that she will not stand at the general election . stand at the general election. in a letter to the prime
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minister, currently, rishi sunak , the health minister, said she had come to the decision after careful reflection but did not go into further detail. this comes shortly after michael gove, another big beast, posted his resignation letter saying it's his resignation letter saying wsfime his resignation letter saying it's time for a new generation to lead . 78 tory mps are now to lead. 78 tory mps are now leaving parliament, a post—war recalled, so joining me now to explain what the hell is going on and why we're just left with the cat , is gb on and why we're just left with the cat, is gb news deputy political editor tom harwood . political editor tom harwood. tom, make it crisp and sexy and full of impact . it go. good luck full of impact. it go. good luck with that. >> don't jinx it, dawn. larry is getting old. if you. i mean, my goodness me, larry's been the downing street cat since the time that, gordon brown was in office. and, i mean, i don't know the average life expectancy of a cat, but if we start talking up that larry will be the only one left, perhaps he won't be, but i do think that it is important to note there are 650 members of parliament. the uk house of commons is one of the larger, lower houses, in in
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western democracies , of course, western democracies, of course, in the united states there, congress only has 425 members for a much, much bigger country. so we do have quite a lot of mps. so, 78 standing down. it's not, of the tories , i should not, of the tories, i should say, of the tories around 600. and, 600 and, sorry, 365 is the number the tories won in 2019. so 78 of those standing down this election, it's a big proportion, although still , proportion, although still, familiar faces will remain. but i think one of the interesting things is that there's a big, big spread of members of parliament standing down at this election. it's not just those in marginal seats, it's also those in safe seats. so there's going to be a really rather large changing of the guard, when the country goes to vote in six weeks time, parliament will look very different, not just because people may vote in a different way to they did to the way they did for five years ago, but also
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because some of those safer seats will see internal changes within the same parties as well. now, why is that ? well, some now, why is that? well, some people have been, of course, there for a long time. theresa may got in in 1997. she's standing down this time around. michael gove got in in 2005, standing down this time around. some people just simply think they've done their bit. they've had their time in the limelight andifs had their time in the limelight and it's time to go off and do other things. others, however, people like dehenna davison, well, she only got elected , in well, she only got elected, in 2019, there are many , many young 2019, there are many, many young mps. there's a 1 or 2 mps in their 20s standing down at this election . so it really does show election. so it really does show that it goes across the board and the next parliament will look very different. as a surprise to rishi sunak, or was he expecting it ? i think he was he expecting it? i think he was expecting a large number of resignations, simply because we've had this drip, drip, drip effect for the last few months. people started to announce
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they'd be standing down more than a year ago . they'd be standing down more than a year ago. but they'd be standing down more than a year ago . but what was than a year ago. but what was once a drip has turned into a pretty steady flow. dare i say it, a tsunami, the largest number of an incumbent government members standing down voluntarily since the second world war, of course, there were lots of rumours in the last few weeks that number 10 sort of knew how many people were thinking of standing down and were begging, were urging these people to not all announce at once to sort of stagger it. so it didn't seem like the biggest tsunami of resignations, but of course , his idea of a snap course, his idea of a snap election has rather pooh poohed that whole idea of, staggering it out. >> okay. and we have to mention someone who isn't going anywhere, by the sounds of it. and that is the chancellor, jeremy hunt, front page of the telegraph today has given an interview saying inheritance tax is against tory values. so we are going to do something about it at some point in the future . it at some point in the future. why is inheritance tax such a big deal? and is it really going to make any difference ?
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to make any difference? >> yeah, two distinct questions there. number one, it is a big deal there. number one, it is a big deal. if you look at poll after poll after poll, it is one of the most hated taxes in britain. people have this intrinsic feeling that we should be able to pass things down to our children. we don't like the idea of our stuff being taken away from us in a sort of death tax. it really sort of riles people up in a very bad way. but but one of the problems is that the treasury quite likes this tax , treasury quite likes this tax, mainly because it's, they see it as particularly not economically damaging. if the treasury had its way , it would be getting rid its way, it would be getting rid of taxes on work and on investment. those are the sorts of things that drive up growth , of things that drive up growth, getting rid of taxes on work and investment, which is why we've seen things like the super deduction, changes to how corporation tax is put in, but also those national insurance tax cuts because national insurance of course is a tax on jobs. however, we're now in an election period. and so perhaps the question is less about what
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is the best economically advantageous tax to cut and more about what is the most popular tax to cut? because of course, there is that philosophical drive behind people like jeremy hunt when it comes to inheritance tax. and it would be a very popular move. the question is, is it affordable? can you guarantee growth , can can you guarantee growth, can fund this? can you guarantee that there would be less spending to fund this? or could you be more clever with how you connect collect it? the netherlands charges inheritance tax at just 20% compared to our 40, and they take in proportionally the same amount. interesting well done. actually, that was crisp, sexy and full of impact. indeed thank you very much. tom and the cat always try and be sexy. the always, always and be sexy. the always, always and the cat, as far as we're aware, survives . thank you very aware, survives. thank you very much. tom harwood. right now. right. i've got my hands full here. joining me now is former labour mp stephen pound and the president of the primrose league , henry bolton. and they've all
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been very naughty boys . oh been very naughty boys. oh please. please i'm sorry i mean what have i done to deserve this. right. okay. but at least you're both looking incredibly. were you? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> by mistake. >> by mistake. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> by mistake? yeah we're getting someone else. >> i like your bob marley one. >> i like your bob marley one. >> surely it's. i shot the sunak would be doing. >> oh, god. >> oh, god. >> right. we can just carry on doing this one, can't we? but you're going to have to talk about politics. i'm sorry. okay? right? right. okay so what do you make of this? i'm going to come to you, i think you first, henry. okay. what do you make about this mass exodus of tory and some big hitters going there? yeah. michael gove , he's there? yeah. michael gove, he's literally done every job apart from the cats. >> yeah, but they're all associated with failure, aren't they? right. and they are all it's also, if you've got no leadership and there has been effectively no leadership of the conservative party then you don't feel you don't generate a espnt don't feel you don't generate a esprit de corps, you don't generate a sense of belonging. >> you don't generate a sense of cohesion and unity of purpose. >> and when that happens, people
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become demoralised and, you know, i there's the state of the party at the moment, the state it's going into the general election in, you know, a lot of them are going to lose their seats anyway . seats anyway. >> so maybe the now is the time to jump for all of those reasons. >> yeah, it is it is it this though , stephen? is it the fact though, stephen? is it the fact that they're they're going to lose in any case, most of them, they're going to lose their seats. many of them aren't they. so they're getting out while the going's good so they can hold their heads high. >> michael gove is not going to lose his seat. >> nadhim zahawi is not going to lose his. >> you know, those are looking pretty safe seats. >> but look, i've been here in 2010. you know, we'd been in power. >> my party had been in power for 13 years. >> this is the oh yeah, it's brought me a sticker, very kind of you. and it said the labour party. >> i don't know where that came from. >> no, no, you were. >> we sat there in the house of commons in 2010 waiting for the etonians. we knew that the plates had shifted. we knew that the country had turned against us. we knew that we weren't going to win. and it was that same feeling. is that when your football team is about to be relegated, you know, you just, you know, some people just move away from it. some people just
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say, i just that's it. i just want no more. but a lot of us said, well, look, we're going to be in opposition. this is our chance to actually regroup and actually come back fighting. but that's people. >> that's people with character and some, some personality that labour mps had character. >> well, compared to no, not at the moment. >> and the conservative party has the same problem. there are too many people in the in in all parties in the house of commons who don't have enough personality, character , vision, personality, character, vision, passion, experience. >> and so these aren't the same people that were in the house of commons, the period. >> one of the strange thing about the way the house, they haven't got the steal, one of the most important arenas in the house of commons is the committee, the select committees. >> and as part part of the reforms that came in many, many years ago, select committees are chaired by the party in opposition. so, for example, the pubuc opposition. so, for example, the public accounts committee is always chaired by an opposition one northern ireland select committee. and so a lot of us in 2010 said, well, look, we may not be in power, but we will have our hands on the levers of power because of the committees. and the last thing we did to say
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we're going to walk away. why on earth would you abandon your constituents, your your principles, everything that you stood for in your party? why do it if you knew what you were standing is not a good stephen. >> that's the point. if you knew what you were standing for, if you had the support of your party, if there was a feeling of coherence and a esprit de corps, then you might do that. you'd say, right, we're going to go into a resistance here, and we are going to we're going to mitigate the damage on the are going to we're going to beaches. >> we're going to fight. well, absolutely. >> there's a certain spirit there. yeah that i think is lacking in politics today. >> this is this is what i keep coming back to right now. >> regardless of what you think of their politics. right? tony blair, margaret thatcher, you know , the, the prime ministers know, the, the prime ministers that have been the most successful recently , they had successful recently, they had they were driven, they had passion. >> can you imagine margaret thatcher cutting and running for a second. no, but but you see margaret thatcher probably now wouldn't get into the conservative party. >> that's a contentious . >> that's a contentious. >> that's a contentious. >> well it is, but because cchq is now anybody who has got really sort of strong conservative beliefs, principles and passion, cchq has been
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blocking them either standing for, for , for, for association for, for, for, for association selection or when they've been selected by their association, some of them have then been removed by cchq then you get the opposition from cchq to lord frost standing. >> you've got the opposition to david campbell. bannerman standing. they they wouldn't let me into the party. they said i'd be too difficult to manage lead someone who is extremely old. >> look, when margaret thatcher stood for parliament in finchley back in the 50s, the conservative party was run by what they call butskellism. it's where butler and gaitskell were indivisible. the conservative party was much , much more left party was much, much more left wing than it's been for years and years and years. she came in despite the fact of her views, and she changed the party. she didn't give up. she didn't cut and run. you know, she stayed and run. you know, she stayed and fought. and, you know, i disagree with about 99% of what she did. but i will always respect the determination. >> but going back to the personality thing here now, we have had a prime minister recently with buckets of personality. well, you could argue it's his personality that won the last general election.
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and we're talking about boris johnson . but that didn't work johnson. but that didn't work did it? >> no, it didn't because you can have personality. you also got to have a degree of competence as well. and the thing with bons as well. and the thing with boris was he took it too easy. and if you look at his school reports when he was at eton, they say he just thinks he can actually glide through life without making the effort. he had loads. i mean, i met him, you know, quite a few times and he was extraordinarily good company, there's no question. let's go and have a drink. all that business. but the reality is he he was like somebody said he was like a supermarket trolley with a wheel missing. he's always veering off. i think there's there was. >> i totally agree, stephen, but the somebody like that can can do it if they've got the right people around them. boris didn't have the right person around him. i mean, michael gove had a big influence in who was the team around him. they weren't loyal to him. they didn't necessarily like his his approach. they weren't competent enough to carry the detail of the policy and the implementation of it. they weren't planners, they weren't implementers. they were sort of spads and so on without the sort of depth of experience , and then of depth of experience, and then you've got the other thing that
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actually the party for some time has been increasing influenced by the appallingly named , by the appallingly named, misnamed one nation caucus who have who were absolutely opposed to boris's approach . they were to boris's approach. they were opposed largely to brexit and again, that's that's everybody's entitled to their opinion. however when you've got a political party and a leader who's not got the support of that political party for those reasons or the technical support, then he's on a bit of a hiding. >> what what sums up boris johnson to me is if you go on the a40 between acton and ealing, there is a yellow painted footbridge over there and boris came along to open it and boris came along to open it and he made this brilliant speech. this is boris's big banana. you know , and somebody banana. you know, and somebody said, well, you know, will this help people coming from park royal and, what's park royal, you know. oh, really ? yeah. you know. oh, really? yeah. well, he hadn't a clue what side of the a40 park royal was, but he made a speech and everybody said, oh, isn't he funny? what a character, what a personality . character, what a personality. and that's the problem. he had that, but he didn't have the
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have. henry, you are spot on. >> yeah, yeah. i mean, the one time i had lunch, well, one of the many times i had lunch with bons the many times i had lunch with boris johnson, we did a lot, obviously. was he handsy? he actually, i was the only girl in the room. and he turned up and he was i happened to be sitting next to me, and he didn't have his flies on arp. and what do you say to a gentleman? she says, looking down very, very carefully. what do you say to the gentleman sitting next to you at lunch who hasn't done his flies up? i mean, come on, goodbye springs to mind . goodbye springs to mind. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> he's not here to defend himself . >> he's not here to defend himself. i've told this story before, but, i mean, you know, the thing was boring . the thing was boring. >> what you do is you. you fill a glass with ice water and say, oh, what's the time? whoops and hear the sizzling. >> well, yes. absolutely it was a very, very long lunch, i have to say. right, thank you very much. >> nigel farage kwasi fl what's that, a proper something lunch. right. >> okay . okay. right. okay. i'm >> okay. okay. right. okay. i'm moving on from that one. thank you very much, that. i told you there were a handful. come on, stephen pound, at least we're zipped up. former labour party
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mp, was it? where is the tone on this one going? honestly it's a weekend. it's a bank holiday. you started it. i didn't start it . you did? oh, yeah, i did it. you did? oh, yeah, i did actually. yeah. and henry bolton , who's really not helping me. i think you're on my side. right. shut up. neutral shut up, both of you. right. in any case, if you want to escape all of this madness and win some money, stand down from your 20,000 has to be won in our great british giveaway . so don't miss out. giveaway. so don't miss out. lie—ins are going to close on friday and here's all you have to do to win that cash. it's the final week to see how you can win a whopping £20,000 cash. >> and because it's totally tax free, every single penny will be in your bank account to do whatever you like. with £20,000 in tax free cash really could be yours this summer. hurry as lie—ins close on friday, you've got to be in it to win it for another chance to win £20,000 in tax free cash text win to 63232.
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>> hi there. i'm michelle dewberry, and i'm going to take a second to tell you all about my show. dewbs& co we start off with the issues of the day. we then bring in both sides of the arguments. we get rid of the disrespect , and then you throw disrespect, and then you throw me into the mix. and trust me, i'll tell it exactly how it is. and then, of course, the magic ingredient you at home, we mix it all together. and what have we got? in my opinion? the best debate show in town monday to friday, 6 to 7 on gb news. britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back to gb news. saturday with me dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. now lots of you have been sending in your thoughts some of them i can even read out loud. so thank you for that right . okay, let's talk on that right. okay, let's talk on the police. a lot of you been getting in touch with this one. remember earlier on we were talking about our, youngsters being lured into the police
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course, into the police force by being promised our, no shift work, yoga lessons, and time off to have sex with their partners . to have sex with their partners. i don't make this one up, honestly, gordon says hello. gordon. gordon says they need to stop the stupid education exams to join the police force. so many of these uni types that don't have a clue when it comes to common sense, which is an extremely important factor indeed.i extremely important factor indeed. i completely agree with. i would agree with this one more though. colin. hi colin, colin though.coun.hicoun,coun says though. colin. hi colin, colin says what did like watching dawn neesom? she looks very bright and uplifting as usual, so i'm balancing that one out. i'm not reading any of the ones out that say i look like a lemon, okay. and david on the oh, the election, we have to talk about it . anna. actually, anna. hi. it. anna. actually, anna. hi. anna says most of the mps leaving are not young. it's not that unusual to want to leave now. it's a bit of a non—issue . now. it's a bit of a non—issue. well, i don't know. i mean, you've got people like michael gove. he's only in his 50s. he's not old, is it? i mean, can't blame, you know. anyway, keep your thoughts coming in. it's there on. yeah that one there. i can't read it out. it's too
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long. right. so but let me know your thoughts on all the stuff we're discussing today. anything you want to say? gbnews.com/yoursay for those listening on the radio and join the conversation or message me on our socials @gbnews. now let's talk money, shall we? the average energy bill is set to drop by £122 in july under the new ofgem price cap, who we go according to the energy regulator, the price cap takes effect from july until the end of september. the cap limits the maximum price that can be charged for each unit of gas and electricity. keep up with me at the back there , not the total the back there, not the total bill. therefore, using more energy means households will pay more. they make it as complicated as they possibly can, don't they? so i've got someone intelligent to talk about it. economist and co—founder of investment advisor regionally, justin urquhart stewart, who looks to all the men joining me today look terribly dapper, justin , now, terribly dapper, justin, now, this in theory, sounds like good
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news. >> well, it is good news. it's not huge, but it's better than nothing. but basically the way the way they describe it is by having this drop from over £1,600 to 1593, and but that doesn't equate to your bill. the only way to really look at this is if you were paying £100 in the last bill. this one will be now be dropping to about £93. so that's the way. so take that sort of same amount in terms of the percentage reduction and that will be roughly what it's going to be. it's coming back better . it should be. but it's better. it should be. but it's not exactly where we were several years ago. >> right , but several years ago. >> right, but it does mean it's taking some of the worst off it. but some people still suffering, some really very, very painful issues here. >> but this is covering, i mean, a complete idiot when it comes to economics. this is covering the summer period. is it then going to go up again in the winter? >> well, it's all this all started, remember, because the problems we had in ukraine and all the food we couldn't the gas coming out of russia. so all it takes is yet again, suppose you do actually have a very cold winter. supposing you do have russia and any other people turning off the taps and of course other people also trying to get their gas as well. it's
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not just us. and of course we were getting more supplies from, from for america and also qatar will be exporting it. so any one of those issues where actually moving stuff around the world has been more difficult. remember, we had trouble with the red sea and all those sort of things. that's where you'll end up seeing little pinches, which will actually push the price up. but this is a little bit of good news. in the summer, heating should turn it down anyway. well, but i'm afraid it's not going to get a lot of help by a bigger sweater. >> right. thank you very much. thank you. but now the tories have actually said this is down to them. the capital on that little bit of good news. i mean it's like let's call a general election now. energy prices are getting better. migration is down slightly, although it's not actually really is it , down slightly, although it's not actually really is it, and inflation is down. can they really take, the, you know, the dairy for doing this or is it nothing to do with them. well, no. >> they will try and take under our watch. this has got better. the reality is people win elections on the basis of the one word that runs economy
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confidence. do you feel better off? do you feel more confident? and the trouble is, the past few years, frankly, whoever was in charge, you'll be sitting there saying, actually, i don't feel very confident. no. and that's the problem. so but by, say, reducing things like national insurance, good news, in fact a little bit lesser, but it's not very tangible. generally when you're sitting down with a family saying, well, are we all in a better shape than we were this time last year? and most people are saying, well, maybe vie, there's no enthusiasm for it. so my concern with the election being called was perhaps he thinks there's no more good news coming through, or this is about as good as it gets, and therefore you're going to be sort of let's let's run for it now before we get bad news coming through. >> you're not helping. no. you're coming here to cheer me up. by the way , but just up. by the way, but just quickly, because you are. >> the economy is growing. >> the economy is growing. >> yeah, it is, it is, but you are just very quickly, justin, we're out of time. but as an economic guru, sex god, even , economic guru, sex god, even, who is going to be the best party financially ? party financially? >> who's going? on party financially? >> who's going? oh dear me, they're all going to have very, very close issues because they haven't got much to play with. right? what you need to do is pin them all down as far as you
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can actually do with rather slippery fish to actually say, all right, what is spending the money on? where are you getting the money from ? there's only the money from? there's only a finite amount. they can actually do what they need to be able to do what they need to be able to do is actually nail it down and say, make it truthful. so we actually becomes credible. that'll give me some confidence that we know what you're doing. if you do that, then you'll start getting some answers like a true politician. >> wasn't he actually answer the question ? justin urquhart question? justin urquhart stewart, thank you very much for joining me and making economics crisp, sexy and full of impact. it's my theme today. come on. it's my theme today. come on. it's a bank holiday, right? i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday. evidently lots more coming up on today's show, but first, it's headline time with cameron walker . cameron walker. >> dawn. thank you. it's 132. >> dawn. thank you. it's132. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom . excuse me. rachel gb newsroom. excuse me. rachel reeves has criticised the government's promise of tax cuts, saying that unfunded plans risk derailing the economy. the shadow chancellor suggests that uncosted cuts could lead to the kind of turmoil seen following
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liz truss's mini—budget in 2022. that's financial statements by former chancellor kwasi kwarteng. kwarteng included £45 billion of unfunded promises. the government insists its plan for economic growth is working . for economic growth is working. a 17 year old boy from lancashire has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman was found dead on a beach in bournemouth last night. police were called to reports of two women stabbed on durley chine beach at around 11:45 pm. a 34 year old woman was pronounced dead at the scene, while a 38 year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries. 20 million vehicles are on the move this bank holiday weekend, according to the latest estimates from the aa. there's already severe disruption around doven already severe disruption around dover, with huge queues leading to the port heading to mainland europe. the port of dover says there's a two hour processing time at the french border , and time at the french border, and there is a higher volume of non port traffic in the area two.
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and despite today's sunny skies, thunderstorms and possibly hail could be on the way later this evening. i'm afraid a yellow warning has been issued from midday today, with heavy showers possible across large parts of england and north of wales. but the met office expects the weather to settle into light . weather to settle into light. patchy showers in time for bank houday patchy showers in time for bank holiday monday . patchy showers in time for bank holiday monday. for patchy showers in time for bank holiday monday . for the latest holiday monday. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . com slash alerts. >> thank you very much, cameron . >> thank you very much, cameron. now remember you need to let me know what you're thinking about all the stories we're discussing by visiting gb news. com forward slash on your screen if you're watching on telly and i've just read it out for you, if you're listening on the radio, join the conversation. message me on our socials. we're @gbnews two. whatever you want to talk about, i'm up for it. and you can even mention the colour i'm wearing
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on my fringe. don't mind at all, but there's lots more coming up on today's show. it's the fa cup final with a manchester derby at the home of football wembley. but who will emerge victorious ? but who will emerge victorious? as all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom, this
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welcome back. gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your telly . online and on digital telly. online and on digital radio. now it's fa cup weekend. manchester city and man united will clash later today. coming up quite soon, actually in the fa cup final at wembley. one team looking to create more history and the other attempting to salvage something from a fairly miserable season. i think that's fair, pep guardiola's city want to follow up their title triumph by sealing a premier league fa cup domestic double in front of a sell out wembley crowd, while united are heading to the home of football.
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with speculation about our erik ten hag future following . i ten hag future following. i think a fairly shocking season for the red devils really, isn't it so let's head up to the home of both teams. a lovely manchester to speak with our nonh manchester to speak with our north west of england reporter sophie reaper. kick off at jens stoltenberg dawn you will see a replica of the cup that our two teams will be vying for this afternoon. >> manchester united and manchester city playing in the fa cup final. we're in the box sports bar, you'll hear the music behind us and i think now we can head over to join some manchester united fans who will be keen to watch this game. lads, thank you for joining us this afternoon . first things this afternoon. first things first. how are we feeling? are we nervous ? we nervous? >> i'm nervous. yeah but we're going to get it. we're going to win. >> are you confident confident confident now it's not been the best season for united this yeah >> in fact the worst since the premier league began. sorry to
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bnng premier league began. sorry to bring that up . would this bring bring that up. would this bring back a little bit of glory to the club this season? >> yeah. like i would say 115% sure it would bring back a lot of confidence and i guess bring backit of confidence and i guess bring back it would help ten hag a lot out to have some form of trophy to bring back like some success. >> so yeah , if you bring up ten >> so yeah, if you bring up ten hag, obviously his job is on the line. >> we're hearing in your minds , >> we're hearing in your minds, if you win today, could that save ten hag's job even before the final ? the final? >> i still have full faith in him, i think the final would be like a big step and a statement in his tenure at the club and him winning the final will be a massive statement . massive statement. >> now, this is the 193rd time united and city have played each other competitively . how does it other competitively. how does it feel before a manchester derby,
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a lot of pressure. >> yeah, a lot of pressure. it's very, competitive between obviously us and, everyone goes out. it's like it's, it's a, it's a one of the biggest games of the season whenever manchester plays there. oh there's lots of pressure coming into this. >> now lads i'm going to ask you quickly before we finish score predictions. >> three two united two one. >> three two united two one. >> united three two. united three two. united's scott mctominay wins it for us again. lots of confidence there from these united fans. >> we will see. we will see. not long until kick off now boys you'll have your answer very soon sophie thank you very much. >> i'm glad you finally got inside the pub rather than hanging around outside it. have a wonderful afternoon. i think sophie will be coming back later to just before kick off. indeed and if you're going, if you're watching, just enjoy. it's a great day out now. so we go to wembley itself and we join gb news reporterjack wembley itself and we join gb news reporter jack carson, who i hope now has got. no, he hasn't
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got his shorts on. you're lucky you're still very warm there, aren't you, jack? what's the atmosphere like building up to the game ? the game? >> well, it's don't don't don't believe the look. it's not that warm. it's okay at the moment, but the atmosphere certainly i think has turned from nerves. dawn into a bit more excitement. as you can see, it's a flare down wembley way there as the fans are making their way from wembley park tube station all the way down here on wembley way towards that famous wembley arch. of course it's excitement, it's derby day, it's fa cup final day . this really isn't one final day. this really isn't one you can predict. i mean this is only the second time in consecutive years at the same two teams has faced each other off in the fa cup final. you've got to go back to 1885 since you last saw that. i mean, we were speaking to a few fans earlier, trying to get their nerves, here's what they told us. >> now being in wembley in a fantastic stadium , yeah. it's fantastic stadium, yeah. it's a it's a fantastic feeling, we've never been to a final before. so, you know, obviously when
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you, when you go to an event like this, you want to win. but to be fair , we're going to have to be fair, we're going to have to be fair, we're going to have to just enjoy the day if we turn up in. i think the players will be motivated. even if ten hag is going, he'll want to leave united with two trophies in two years to keep his stock high. >> it's about the defence we've got to defend well, better than we have done all season . we have done all season. >> well there we go. there's some of the views from the fans, certainly a bit of an atmosphere building here. of course, ten hag knows that his job could be on the line. this could be his last game as manchester united manager pep guardiola looking to do the double in consecutive seasons for the first time in history. so we're going to kick off in a little bit here at wembley five i love it, i love the fa cup final. >> jack, thank you very much. have a wonderful afternoon and we'll come back to you just before kick off i believe i enjoy now , well this is, gb news enjoy now, well this is, gb news on saturday, bank holiday saturday, indeed, i'm dawn neesom and there's loads more coming up on today's show, but the first time ever daily
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marijuana use surpasses alcohol. alcohol consumption in the us. could we see the same thing happen this side of the pond? all of that and much more to come. this is gb
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welcome back to gb news. thatcherite with me. dawn neesom on your tv , online and on on your tv, online and on digital radio. now for the first time ever, i find this quite shocking. this story. for the first time ever, daily marijuana use has surpassed alcohol consumption in the us, roughly 17.7 million people in the states are using the drug daily, compared to 14.7 million daily drinkers, according to findings from the national survey on drug use and health. this is, by the way, now, pro weed advocates argue that the shift of benefit to the nation's health marijuana
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has reduced health risks compared to booze, have long been a fundamental argument of the legislation . lobby. but, the legislation. lobby. but, but, but, but is it healthier than booze? let's find out, shall we? joining me now is chief executive of the night time industry association, michael kill, and the president of clear cannabis law reform, peter reynolds . thank you so peter reynolds. thank you so much for joining peter reynolds. thank you so much forjoining me this much for joining me this afternoon , gentlemen. now, the afternoon, gentlemen. now, the other part of this story, we discussed what's happening in america. but gen z, which is the generation born between 1997 and 2012, in the uk , 63% of them 2012, in the uk, 63% of them believe that cannabis should be legal and you should be able to buy it on the high street. pretty much like you can go to, you know, your local corner shop and buy a bottle of wine if you want to, does this sound like a good thing to you, peter? coming to you first. peter because you are team cannabis on this one. should we actually now consider legalising cannabis?
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>> definitely , there are only >> definitely, there are only benefits to be gained from it , >> definitely, there are only benefits to be gained from it, i mean, the most i mean, the reason i think this, it consumption of cannabis is bypassed alcohol in the states is because when you make it available for adults on a legal bafis available for adults on a legal basis , they choose a safer, basis, they choose a safer, healthier product that they don't find as debilitating. it doesn't interfere with the rest of their life in the way that alcohol can. i'm not against alcohol can. i'm not against alcohol . i enjoy a drink myself. alcohol. i enjoy a drink myself. but i mean, there's no doubt that cannabis is a healthier, safer option and i mean, that explains really why the main opponents of cannabis legalisation for many years, apart from, of course, the organised crime gangs who sell it, the main opponents have been the alcohol industry. >> now obviously cannabis has been legalised in the states in not not all states obviously. i think about half of them. isn't it ? and that has led to more it? and that has led to more people taking the drug up. so i'm coming to you now, michael, your team alcohol on this one if
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i can put it like that, now you make it more available, more people surely will be tempted to use it. if you can go and get it in your local corner shop with, like, your bottle of wine or your four pack of beer to watch the football with. will more people be tempted to use it? and is that something we should be worried about, i think that the reality is, is the market shift will dictate what sort of happens moving forward, i think for a long time, our industry and, you know, we're very aware that there needs to be a change in the, the approach to, drugs and particularly cannabis. i mean, when you talk about the misuse of drugs act and things like that, i mean, that's 50 years old. things have moved on. so i think the approach has got to change, without a doubt. and, you know, we're very aware that there is an increase in the take up and use of cannabis. there is an increase in the take up and use of cannabis . we know up and use of cannabis. we know that during the pandemic, people spent a lot of time at home.
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they consumed alcohol. it's probably more prevalent in terms of the consumption of alcohol at home. and we're definitely seeing a rise in people's consumption of cannabis. and that acceptance in society is becoming sort of broader and definitely since the medicinal use side, it's so i mean, in terms of our industry, as you can appreciate it . yeah, it can appreciate it. yeah, it could without a doubt have an impact. but, you know, society has to change. we need to pivot. we need to change to move forward . so it's something we're forward. so it's something we're going to have to adapt and move forward with. as society does. but government also needs to think of a different approach , think of a different approach, yeah.i think of a different approach, yeah. i mean, the argument goes, if you do legalise it in some way for recreational use, we're not talking about dealing, we're talking about recreational use here. it will take the criminal element out of it, peter, is that a fair argument that that is the most important argument at all? >> at all? i mean, bad drugs policy, the bad drugs policy that we've suffered under for nearly 100 years now drives
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crime and violence. it is it is it is the most, the most obvious cause of all crime and violence. you know, 85% of people in prison are there for crimes related to drugs or drugs markets. and when you prohibit something for which there is a demand, what you do is create a criminal drugs market. and yet all our politicians can come up with is the stupid lines about being tough on drugs. they're not tough on drugs at all. in fact, what the way the policy runs at the moment is it actually supports the gangsters business model . this is the most business model. this is the most important argument. bad drugs policy drives crime and violence drives knife crime , you know, drives knife crime, you know, drags kids into gang culture. all because we prohibit something which people want and which we know is much safer than alcohol. >> but i mean, well, i mean, thatis >> but i mean, well, i mean, that is this debate, isn't it? but, peter, i mean, you're boudh is actually we know beyond a doubt that it's safer than alcohol . alcohol. >> there's been so much evidence and so much study on this. now, i've read obviously , the daily
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i've read obviously, the daily mail article, i mean, the daily mail article, i mean, the daily mail is hardly the place to go for any scientific advice, but nevertheless , you know, we know nevertheless, you know, we know from many studies that the, the facts of this matter. but one of the things it says in this article , for instance, it article, for instance, it suggests that mental health impact is greater from cannabis than it is from alcohol. and of course, this is the narrative that we see all the time. but what we need to do is we need to look at the facts . and if you look at the facts. and if you look at the facts. and if you look at the nhs data, the actual nhs data for the number of people who are hospitalised for what's called mental and behavioural problems relating to cannabis or alcohol, the rates for alcohol is 7 to 8 times more than it is for cannabis. >> michael , just a very, very >> michael, just a very, very quick word from you. now, the argument also goes that alcohol is a killer as well. maybe it's time to consider banning that rather than legalising cannabis. what would you say to that quickly? >> i don't think it's about banning. i mean , listen, we need banning. i mean, listen, we need to be treated like adults and in many respects, people have their own choices, whether it be alcohol, whether it be cannabis,
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you know, the evolution in terms of people's awareness of their health environments is much greater . we see premiumisation, greater. we see premiumisation, we see less drinking. 25% of people are taking up no or low alcohol products. so the reality is people are savvy. let's start treating people like adults and understand they have these choices and start to work towards harm reduction in a way that makes people aware and educate people at a much younger age . but give them the choices. age. but give them the choices. let's look at reform that is going to capture the challenges in terms of excess , but also in terms of excess, but also allows people the opportunity to make their own decisions. >> we have to leave it there. michael kill and peter reynolds, thank you very much . michael kill and peter reynolds, thank you very much. i'm michael kill and peter reynolds, thank you very much . i'm dawn thank you very much. i'm dawn neesom gb news saturday. lots more coming up on today's show. but first, the all important weather with greg dewhurst a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your
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latest weather for gb news over the next 24 hours it's all changes. >> areas of rain moving from the atlantic, some heavy showers developing as well. and that's all thanks to low pressure which is going to dominate through the rest of the bank holiday weekend. >> areas of rain, some heavy showers and we can see that rain already pushing into some western areas. >> today's rain still lingering across eastern parts of england, pushing its way northward. >> some heavy bursts possible into the early hours. >> as we can see, most areas cloudy outbreaks of rain pushing northwards. but this will keep temperatures up for most, staying in double figures , staying in double figures, turning breezy around the coast and over the hills as well, so it means a bit of a grey start to sunday morning. >> some glimmers of sunshine, perhaps first thing across southwest england, but let's take a look at the details. >> for sunday morning. we can see a dry start across northern scotland. 1 or 2 spells of sunshine but rain across the central belt, southern parts of scotland into northern ireland. >> some of this heavy at times . >> some of this heavy at times. two temperatures on the mild
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gb news. way. >> i'm the little rant there in the break that you can, can't you?ifs the break that you can, can't you? it's a weekend. we can do that. hello, and welcome back to gb news saturday. i'm dawn neesom. for the next hour. i'll be keeping you company on telly, onune be keeping you company on telly, online and on digital radio, keeping you up to date on all the stories that really matter to you now. cracking hour coming up, 78 tory mps are now leaving parliament a post—war record breaking exodus with michael gove and andrea leadsom becoming the big hitters. the latest mps to announce they will not stand. but what does it mean for rishi sunak ? then the duchess of york, sunak? then the duchess of york, that's her. their big rated the crowd at the cannes film festival, as she told them to care less about parties and more about the climate . does she have about the climate. does she have about the climate. does she have a point? she flew there on a jet, by the way, and manchester
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city and man united will clash later today in the fa cup final, with one team looking to create more history and the other attempting to salvage something from a fairly miserable season . from a fairly miserable season. but this show is nothing without you and your views , so let me you and your views, so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're talking about by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay right on your screen there. and i've just read it out. if you're listening on the radio, very, very simple or even simpler, message me on our socials . we're message me on our socials. we're @gbnews and say whatever you want. we, you know, we don't care. it's a weekend bank holiday. who cares? right? but first, here is the news with the very lovely cameron walker . very lovely cameron walker. >> dawn, thank you very much. good afternoon . it is 2:01. i'm good afternoon. it is 2:01. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to include 16 and 17 year olds.
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speaking to reporters on the campaign trail today, the labour leader said that if you can work and pay tax then you ought to be able to vote. it comes as both major parties pitched their message to the voters on the first weekend of the election campaign, with the government focusing on economic growth. but shadow chancellor rachel reeves suggests or says suggestions of tax cuts risk derailing the economy. >> liz truss's mini—budget the conservatives mini—budget crashed, the economy sent mortgage rates spiralling and put pensions in peril and the government's decisions to get rid of things like the gas storage facility to fail to invest significantly in renewable energy, meant that we were exposed when the when russia invaded ukraine. >> well, as you've been hearing , >> well, as you've been hearing, 78 conservative mps have now stepped down ahead of the summer election, which is a post—war record. it also surpasses the previous high, which took place pnor previous high, which took place
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prior to tony blair's victory for labour in 1997. it comes as the tories trail in the polls, with all parties continuing their election campaigning today. liberal democrat leader sir ed davey says his party is ready to see a new parliament. >> the liberal democrats have got a fantastic set of policies on the health service, on the economy and on the environment. today we're campaigning against the sewage problem and we've led that campaign. i think overall, we're just much more ambitious than some of the other parties . than some of the other parties. and critically, we want to transform british politics. we think the politics in our country is broken. it needs to be changed. and we're the only party talking about that. >> a 17 year old boy from lancashire has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman was found dead on a beach in bournemouth last night. dorset police said they were called to reports of two women stabbed on durley chine beach at around 1145 in the evening. a 34 year old woman was pronounced dead at the scene, while a 38 year old was taken to hospital
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with serious injuries . year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries. now year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries . now there with serious injuries. now there are still waits of around two hours in the ports of dover this afternoon, as an estimated 20 million cars hit the roads for the bank holiday getaway. the aa is forecasting severe delays , is forecasting severe delays, with huge queues seen waiting to cross from dover into mainland europe . the port says there's europe. the port says there's congestion at the french border and they're working closely with kent police to put additional traffic measurements in place. now. hollywood actor alec baldwin will stand trial as scheduled in july after a us judge denied a bid to dismiss a criminal charge against him. cinematographer halyna hutchins was killed in october 2021 after a prop gun fired when baldwin was holding it. he had previously pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. a separate case found that the handler of the weapon hadn't followed safety procedures , but followed safety procedures, but the judge in baldwin's case ruled that the grand jury was not prejudiced against him, clearing the way for an unprecedented trial of hollywood actor for an on set death . now
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actor for an on set death. now the biggest game in manchester gets underway in just one hour's time as city and united meet once again in the fa cup final in front of a sell out wembley crowd. pep guardiola's side wants to follow up last sunday's title triumph by sealing a domestic double. united head into the match with speculation about manager erik ten hag's future following their worst premier league finish, ending the season in eighth. now we spoke to some fans who gave their predictions ahead of the big game. >> i think we've got to get it. man united . we've not had a good man united. we've not had a good season. we want to, we want the excitement, the way they've been playing. >> i'd say 5050, a bit nervous and i've not had a great season , and i've not had a great season, but we weren't doing great and we still beat liverpool a few weeks ago, so anything can happenin weeks ago, so anything can happen in 90 minutes. >> can't it? >> can't it? >> it's derby day. always nervous on derby day obviously the added pressure of it being an fa cup final. >> for the latest stories sign up to gb news alerts by scanning
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the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts now it's back to dawn on gb news . saturday. >> thank you very much, cameron. just quickly, lots of you have been getting in touch about the cannabis versus alcohol debate. and one i wanted to read out here is that drug drug driving is now more common than drink driving . and obviously many driving. and obviously many people smoke cannabis by smoking . so which as we know is a huge killer as well. so keep them coming in though. really, really good comments on that one. now let's get stuck in to the rest of the day's topic, shall we. it's politics. andrea leadsom has become the latest mp to announce she will not stand at the general election. in a letter to the prime minister the health minister, big hitter. this lady said she had come to the decision after careful reflection but did not go into further detail. it comes very shortly after that other big
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beasts of the cabinet, michael gove, posted his resignation letter saying it was time for a new generation to lead , which new generation to lead, which means 78 tory mps are now leaving parliament. that's a post—war record. exodus joining me now is gb news deputy political editor, tom harwood, who has a very, very tough job. over the next six weeks, explaining what's going on, because to many of us, tom, it just seems utter madness. i mean , we've got the election. it was announced in a rainstorm, then in front of the titanic, which was a sinking ship , and now was a sinking ship, and now everyone seems to be leaving the party. it doesn't sound like it's going well . it's going well. >> yeah. there was also a point when rishi sunak went to a brewery and insert your own metaphor about organising a whatever in a brewery, but of course it was in wales. and he said, are you all looking forward to the euros and the football this summer? wales, of course, have not qualified, so it hasn't been a perfect sort of start for the prime minister. perhaps that's one of the
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reasons why he's taking a bit of time off from the campaign trail this weekend, reportedly hunkering down with some of his closest advisors. maybe we're about to see a new week on monday with some pretty big announcements. we're still yet to see either manifesto from either main party, and that could be a big, big moment in this campaign. although the labour party says we're perhaps a couple of weeks away from that moment, clearly what is going on now is the build up of momentum . now is the build up of momentum. although it must be said that most voters, most voters don't start paying real attention to the general election until the last week. in fact, in the brexit referendum, the vote leave campaign reserved 80% of its spending limit for that final week. so it could be that we're in for a big barrage of news and announcements in the final few days of this campaign, but things are still getting on pretty quickly. the prime minister's already visited all four nations of the united kingdom trying to shore up the vote, and he's going to have to
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do a lot of travelling. considering how many of his own mps are standing down, although many of those mps that are standing down in fairness, say they will campaign in this election for all the their hopeful successors, notably michael gove wrote that in his resignation letter. but it's an honestly enormous list, gargantuan list, some might say, of big hitters theresa may, graham brady, michael gove, sajid javid , kwasi kwarteng, you sajid javid, kwasi kwarteng, you name it. practically every big mp that you've heard of in the last decade is thinking about throwing in the towel, and that is going to mean that not only if the polls are to be believed and labour wins a big victory, there'll be a big turnover in seats, but also in some of the safest seats in the country. you're going to get a turnover two even if it's the same party, there'll be a different face representing that rosette because of all of these people standing down. >> and tom, the chances are it's going to be a much younger face. michael gove, only in his 50s, but his implied it's time for a
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new generation to pick up the baton and carry on. which brings us very neatly to keir starmer this week, talking about allowing 16 and 17 year olds to vote. what do you make to that one? >> yeah, today the labour party leader has confirmed that he wants to lower the voting age , wants to lower the voting age, bringing in two new age brackets to that. his full quote was i want to see both 16 and 17 year olds voting. if you can work, if you can pay tax, if you can serve in the armed forces, you ought to be able to vote. the trouble is, there is no floor that the treasury imposes on people being able to work and pay people being able to work and pay tax. you get child actors from the age of pretty much zero who can pay tax . does that mean who can pay tax. does that mean by that logic, the leader of the opposition wants to lower the voting age to anyone who's ever worked, but also serve in the armed forces? interesting choice of phrasing there. there's a un convention and keir starmer knows this. he's been an
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international lawyer for donkey's years. it's called the un convention on child soldiers. it is illegal under international law to send anyone under the age of 18 into fight. so you can't serve what you can do is get a training contract. now, this is the fundamental point. the coalition government a few years ago, the first half of the 2010s introduced a new rule that you have to be in some form of education or training until the age of 18. so the country sees 16 and 17 year olds as children. the un sees 16 and 17 year olds as children. 16 and 17 year olds as children. 16 and 17 year olds aren't allowed to buy alcohol, aren't allowed to go out and gamble, aren't allowed to smoke, we're banning vapes for these groups as well. and yet going to vote is going to be introduced. it seems there's a remarkable inconsistency there from the leader of the opposition. i
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wonder if it's anything to do with the fact that that generation are more likely to vote labour than conservative, cynical . cynical. >> oh what? tom harwood, thank you very much for another explainer . a brilliant explainer. a brilliant explainer, i have to say, on what's happening in the frankly mad world of politics. now, joining me now is broadcast our mike parry and political commentator and playwright emma burnell . thank you very much for burnell. thank you very much for joining me on a lovely bank houday joining me on a lovely bank holiday weekend , appreciate your holiday weekend, appreciate your time. now lower the voting age. i think it's fair to say, mike, that your a man of a certain age. yeah. how do you feel about 16 and 17 year olds being able to vote? >> well , it's clearly a to vote? >> well, it's clearly a cynical political ploy to try and gather people in, but it might backfire. >> now, the last time that labour tried to increase the number of people who might vote for them was when they opened up the doors to immigrants to come to this country. million people in the first two years. and they thought, oh, all these people
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will be so grateful for being admitted to the united kingdom . admitted to the united kingdom. they'll all vote for labour. we'll be in power forever. it didn't work like that. it completely backfired on a lot of people who came here, had the instincts of, you know, business appreciation when they wanted to come to a rich country, make a life for themselves . and they life for themselves. and they didn't all just vote labour. now, we might find out that these youngsters were doing 1618 are not as politically brainwashed as labour clearly think. they are. and thomas made so, so many very good points there. supposing they went to a meeting of their local labour party branch, and it was in the back room of the local pub . back room of the local pub. well, they'd be allowed to go into the pub, but they would not be allowed to buy a drink and dnnkin be allowed to buy a drink and drink in that pub because they're below the legal age. they haven't lived enough in the world, in my view, to be able to make a judgement on what's good for the rest of us in society. okay, interested , emma? okay, interested, emma? >> i mean, you know, it's happenedin
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>> i mean, you know, it's happened in scotland. 16, 17 year olds are allowed to vote in scotland. no one seems to be having a complete hissy fit about that, so why not just make it a nationwide policy? >> i mean, i'm all in favour and have been for a long time. >> i didn't know that keir starmer was going to say that today. and i hope even during election campaign, and even with my very labour hat on, that i will be honest about how i feel about each labour policy as they're announced . they're announced. >> but i've long thought that, you know, growing up isn't a threshold you trip over on the day of your 18th birthday. >> it's a process. >> some of you did trip over. >> some of you did trip over. >> i mean, many of us tripped over on our 18th birthday, but for entirely different reasons. >> possibly, but i just i think that that enfranchising people is a good thing. >> generally. >> generally. >> there are some academics, david runciman , who i'm a big david runciman, who i'm a big admirer of, is someone who's making an argument for all children to have the vote. now, i do think that there are probably limits, but if you look at the difference between, say, an 11 year old entering secondary school and someone going from their gcses to the
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rey levels, or their apprenticeship or their training contract, those are two almost entirely different human beings at very , very different lives at very, very different lives and very different stages of cognitive development . cognitive development. >> and i just think that in terms of the say that they should have in the country in which they live , i think that which they live, i think that it's better that they have that opportunity than don't . opportunity than don't. >> it's i mean, you know, mike, no disrespect, you and i are a certain generation. we're not gonna be around for that much longer. these kids, this is their future. well, it is their future, but they've got no experience of how the world runs. >> and emma's made the point that between the ages of 16 and 18, you're trying to further your education. you're trying to complete your school education, move on to the next level of higher education. and that's what people of that age should be concerned with. i don't think it's right to put the weight and responsibility of running the country on the shoulders of people whose brains aren't fully matured because they're not at 16, and whose life plans should be their main occupation of
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their time, not running the rest of the country for other people . of the country for other people. we've got adults who do that, who've got experience of making mistakes. >> the country they're asking, they are they vote in a polling station and put an x in a box. >> well, that's helping to do it. hang on. that's helping to run the country, isn't it? in a democratic society , the country. democratic society, the country. >> and there's a difference. >> and there's a difference. >> it's helping to run the country. if you've got an opinion and are able to vote for who you want to be the leader. and are you saying that at 18 you magically start having opinions? >> and until 18 you have none? >> and until 18 you have none? >> what i'm saying is that growing up as a process , both growing up as a process, both physical and mental, and i do not believe that anybody at 16 is mature enough to make all those considerations about the multiplicity of problems the world faces that they can't possibly know anything about. i mean, 18 is such an arbitrary thing. >> so is 16, frankly , but there >> so is 16, frankly, but there have to be an an arbitrary limit. i'm just saying that those two years, i don't think they make that much difference in our decision making process, that we are suddenly , magically that we are suddenly, magically able to do it. i would be
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february the 23rd, 1991, if it was 16 and 1993, if it had been 18 as it was. so i was 17.5 and didn't get to vote in the 92 election, which i was very, very actively engaged in being interested in, i can tell you. >> but i mean, you know, as you say to be honest with you, there's not a lot of difference between, say, a 15 year old and a 16 year no. >> and that that is a thing. and then how far do you how far do you go back? >> i mean, that is that is the complication. it is an arbitrary thing. we absolutely cannot set, for example, iq tests for voting. can you imagine that, most of the politicians. >> but but i think i think it's wicked to try and, you know, speed up the growing up process between 16 and 18. what kids should be doing is making relationships with, you know, other people learning how to dnnk other people learning how to drink properly, going and watching football , all those watching football, all those sort of things that they should do without without the pressure. >> they can't learn quickly because it's illegal. >> but i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i'm
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a it might be illegal, but i'm sure you went into pubs before you rating because i certainly did absolutely did. and that's what they should be doing things before 16. >> i was technically supposed to, but these are the this is the point. it is these are choices people are making in terms to grow up . give them the terms to grow up. give them the opfion terms to grow up. give them the option they don't have to. we're not forcing them to go and vote, but if they want to, that's available to them. >> yeah, well i, i think it's absolute nonsense. it's a cynical political ploy , but we cynical political ploy, but we all know that. and i hope it backfires because i do think young people in this country are a lot brighter and a lot, well, a lot brighter and a lot, well, a lot brighter and a lot, well, a lot sharper than 16 to 18 year olds than not as likely to vote labour as some labour strategists, some labour politicians give them credit for to disenfranchise them. >> the one, the one issue i keep, nobody's disenfranchised sizing them, by the way, somebody trying to enfranchise them. >> yes, they're not being disenfranchised. >> they're never disenfranchised. they're being offered. they're not disenfranchised. >> they're not part of the vote. it's not it's not splitting. very, very i am not emma, you're trying to make out that, you know, their ability to vote is
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being cancelled . it's not. they being cancelled. it's not. they never had it and they've never had it because they're not mature enough as women were before 1927. >> yeah, that's a fair point. the one i think i keep coming back to here is it's, you know, the age, right? i mean, shamima begum, for example, people are going she was a child. she was a child. she didn't know what she was doing. she didn't know what she was doing. the very same people are going, but these these children should be able to vote. >> but as i keep repeating, they haven't got the knowledge. they haven't got the knowledge. they haven't got the experience, they haven't got the experience, they haven't got the maturity of the way into human relationships work to make a valid decision about who should be running . you about who should be running. you know, the country with the sixth biggest economy in the world. it's nonsense to me. >> so much more respect for 16 year olds than that. they i've got a 19 year old and a 15 year old nephew and niece, and frankly, the pair of them are equalin frankly, the pair of them are equal in their decision making. and could walk into a polling station and make an independent decision from their parents, who i may well be voting in different ways tomorrow, and they are both perfectly capable
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says going back to the alcohol cannabis debate. lots of you been getting in touch. you've really got you on this one. if alcohol was discovered tomorrow it would be immediately labelled a class a drug. it's only because it's been around for thousands of years that will become normalised to it. a really interesting point. i wonder if they would, but genie's out of the bottle. no pun intended. by the way. now the duchess of york , sarah the duchess of york, sarah ferguson berated the crowd at the cannes film festival as she told them to care less about parties and more about the climate. the duchess attended the elite. there you go. you can see the elite party held on riviera , appearing on stage to riviera, appearing on stage to auction off a portrait of queen elizabeth. >> as everyone in this room stop, stop stop stop! >> did you see? >> did you see? >> i removed the microphone because all of you are saying, oh, i want to go because where is the next party? >> i think she might have been enjoying the hospitality a bit much. there don't you? and you guys couldn't say, but she was
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actually telling them to shut up because they were talking over and she was trying to make a point. and then she went to on lecture them about green issues. after flying to the south of france on a jet. she do, joining me now is royal broadcaster and commentator rafe heydel—mankoo rafe. thank you so much. i love talking to you. you make it sound so much fun. now what's what's she on about? >> oh, no. look, when you first see that clip on it's own, you do think, is it sarah ferguson or karen ferguson we're dealing with here. but. but actually , i with here. but. but actually, i think i think we're being a bit harsh on her. this is an annual gala put together by amfar, which was set up by elizabeth taylor to be as an aids charity. and every year they have this gala in cannes because of course, there are so many a—list celebrities gathered there together, and there are 400 attending this event. now, this comes at the end of a long week of watching films and so forth. and they clearly were in the party mood. and there was an important auction taking place, and she was really trying to get them to pay attention to it all. she should have understood that perhaps a—list celebrities
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aren't that interested in what the duchess of sarah, duchess of york , has to say particularly york, has to say particularly don't want to be lectured yet again about green issues, which she was doing in part. however, it does seem that this was a particularly boisterous event because even demi moore then went up on stage and tried to do the same thing that sarah ferguson tried to do, saying to them, look , i'm about to them, look, i'm about to introduce cher, a grammy award winning oscar winning, emmy winning oscar winning, emmy winning performer, and she said, you at the back . have you won an you at the back. have you won an emmy? i don't blink and think so. exactly. so given that, i suspect that this perhaps was a rather more rambunctious crowd than one would expect normally. yeah, it did seem a bit frisky. >> and as i said, i mean sarah, i think she'd been enjoying herself as well there. the other story i wanted to talk to you about rafe, and this was a story from the daily beast about catherine and about the fact that she is spending more time with her. how did they edit her birth family? >> her birth family? her? her nearest and dearest? yes so, yes. so this is a story in the daily beast that's quoting
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unnamed sources. and it also says that that these sources claim that it may be actually that we don't see the princess of wales for the rest of the yeah of wales for the rest of the year. now, i always say whenever these sorts of stories come up, you know, the princess of wales did ask for space and time for her to undergo treatment , and we her to undergo treatment, and we have to respect those wishes and not speculate so much and stick to the facts. but actually the facts do actually back up some of the stuff in this article, because , for example, we know because, for example, we know that preventative chemotherapy, which is the treatment that the princess of wales is undertaking, can take anywhere from 3 to 12 months. it's normally 4 to 6, but it could take up to 12 months. and so we mustn't become impatient about or speculate about what's going on here because it could easily be a 12 month period of treatment that she is undergoing, in which case it may well be that we don't see her until later on this year. we would of course, expect fully that the royal house or kensington palace would issue a video or other update statement periodically to avoid the
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rampant speculation that, unfortunately, we saw previously. but i think certainly we know that she's going to go to sandringham next week, to anmer hall, her residence there. her parents will be there most likely as well, staying with her next week. and she's got a very small circle around her. we understand just her family really , rather just her family really, rather than any wider circle of friends, and they're giving her the support and care that she needs. and i think we should be respectful of that and not get too caught up in speculating on all of these things. >> clickbait article there, but i must confess, i did read it and i it concerned me. it was just the phraseology of it, but we wish obviously her well and obviously king charles well as well also battling cancer. rafe heydel—mankoo. thank you so much for coming short and sweet. next time we'll make it longer. i think , right. i'm dawn neesom think, right. i'm dawn neesom and this is gb news saturday and there's lots more coming up on today's show. but first, it's at cameron walker again with those headunes.
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headlines. >> dawn. thank you. it's 230. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom . i'm sir keir gb newsroom. i'm sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to include 16 and 17 year olds. speaking to reporters on the campaign trail today, the labour leader said that if you can work and pay tax, then you ought to be able to vote. it comes as both major parties pitched their message to voters on the first week of the election campaign , with the election campaign, with the governments focusing on the economy . liberal democrats economy. liberal democrats leader sir ed davey says his party is ready to see a new parliament. he was speaking after the number of conservative mps stepping down ahead of the summer election reached 78, which is a post—war record. it also surpasses the previous high, which took place prior to tony blair's victory for labour in 1997. meanwhile they are still waits of around two hours in the port of dover this afternoon as an estimated 20 million cards hit the road for
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the bank holiday weekend. the aa is forecasting severe delays , is forecasting severe delays, with huge queues seen waiting to cross from dover into mainland europe. the port says there's congestion at the french border , congestion at the french border, and they're working closely with kent's police to put additional traffic management measures in place . now the biggest game in place. now the biggest game in manchester gets underway in just under half an hour's time. if you're watching on television , you're watching on television, these are live pictures from outside wembley stadium , where outside wembley stadium, where city and united will meet in front of a sell out crowd . pep front of a sell out crowd. pep guardiola's side wants to follow up last sunday's title triumph by sealing a domestic double. you can see very excited fans there. united head into the match with speculation about manager erik ten hag's future following their worst premier league finish, ending the season in eighth. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts. now back to gb news saturday with dawn .
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with dawn. >> thank you very much, cameron. now there's loads more coming up on today's show. but before i tell you what, we have lined up for you, nana akua has joined me in the studio. look and gorgeous as always, in a suitably bright colour . all as always, in a suitably bright colour. all we need as always, in a suitably bright colour . all we need is as always, in a suitably bright colour. all we need is someone wearing green and we've got the traffic lights sorted. oh, that's right, isn't it? nana is our, following on at 3:00 with your amazing show. what have you got coming up? >> well , well, i've got a very >> well, well, i've got a very good guess for my difficult conversations. sasha bailey, he is the son of famous photographer david bailey. wow. yeah. and, basically the reason why sasha didn't go through with gender reassignment was because the nhs waiting list. and thankfully, that time gave him time to rethink and he changed his mind. so we're going to be heanng his mind. so we're going to be hearing his story. what led him there and why? plus, we're going to be talking about 16 year olds, whether they should be given the vote, because that is what everyone is saying. i mean, i personally , i have no idea who i personally, i have no idea who to vote for. >> i have no idea.
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>> i have no idea. >> i have no idea. >> i know a lot of people have no idea, and i can't help think that how on earth can a 16 year old process all of that as well ? old process all of that as well? so we'll be discussing that. plus, was this the right time? >> was now the right time for rishi sunak to call that election ? election? >> it does make you wonder, doesn't it? does make you wonder who's advising him to be honest with you. do you not think that debate sounds great? certainly. that's coming up one as well. yeah, a cracking show. don't miss it. don't go anywhere . but miss it. don't go anywhere. but remember, let me know all the thoughts and all the stories we'll be discussing today by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation or message me on the socials @gbnews. loads more coming up on today's show though it's the fa cup final with manchester derby at the home of football in wembley, but who will emerge victorious? someone from manchester i reckon . all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you're with gb news, britain's news channel guy anker depher.
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straight talking. >> this is a nightmare for the conservatives. again, down to earth. it's not just nottingham where this is happening, is it? and most importantly, honest, hard working middle class taxpayers. >> they'll get books thrown at them. >> they catch me martin daubney monday to friday, 3 to 6 pm. on gb news, britain's news channel . gb news, britain's news channel. >> welcome back to gb news. saturday with me dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio now. loads of you have been getting in touch and the two topics that really, really got you worked up today, which is great news because nana is taking this topic on further later on is the voting age and many of you are saying it actually should be higher. and a lot of, what's that lady's name, joan, i think it was she says that, it should be 21. it was 21 up until i think about 1970 when they lowered it to 18. but she says it should be 21 because people aren't mature enough mentally to vote before then. and lots of you have been
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getting in touch and saying people who pay tax should vote no one else, which is, well, it could alienate quite a lot of pensioners, could it? because quite a few pensioners don't pay tax, so therefore they couldn't vote, which wouldn't be good news for the tories , would it. news for the tories, would it. but do keep them coming in. that's on your screen there. gbnews.com/yoursay the voting age in particular, and also the cannabis debate as well . lots of cannabis debate as well. lots of people saying that alcohol would indeed be banned if it was introduced now and be classified as a drug as well. in any case, keep those coming in now let's talk football, shall we, manchester city and man united will a clash later today in the fa cup final, with one team looking to create more history and the other attempting to salvage what could be described as a miserable season , pep as a miserable season, pep guardiola's city want to follow up their title triumph by sealing a premier league fa cup domestic double again in front of a sell out wembley crowd, while united are heading to the home of football with
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speculation about, manager ten hag's future following a fairly shocking season for the red devils. i don't know how they feel here, so let's head up to manchester now, which i'm assuming is going to be glued to its telly or already in wembley to speak to our northwest england reporter, sophie reaper sophie. hello. are you still in a pub? excellent. top girl. right. what's the atmosphere like there now ? like there now? >> well done. it's certainly very full in here now. >> i'd imagine it's almost as full as wembley. so my wonderful cameraman and i have escaped up to the dj booth, where i'm sure he can show you now what exactly it's looking like in here right now. absolutely packed to the rafters with fans waiting for the kick off. >> we are now, of course , only around. >> what is it, 15 minutes, 20 minutes away from kick—off i down there we can see our united fans from earlier. they're taking in the atmosphere. not long to go now until it will be
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kicking off an absolute atmosphere in here. there he is giving us a wave finally, absolutely . atmosphere is absolutely. atmosphere is absolutely. atmosphere is absolutely amazing in here, and i'm sure it's almost as loud as it is in wembley. there's another fan giving us a wave, absolutely incredible fans really just enjoying themselves. they've all realised we're live on the telly now, so they're giving us a little bit of a chance, trying to give myself a bit of for competition who can be the loudest. hahaha >> i am sure that these fans in here will be giving us an absolutely incredible atmosphere throughout this game. >> i'm sure. however, though the nerves will also be setting in. >> of course, united fans, especially coming into this as the underdog city have already won the league this season. united having their worst ever season in premier league history, so i am sure that the united fans here today, especially , will be wanting to especially, will be wanting to at least take home a little bit
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of silverware, but at the very least they've been in excellent voice here in manchester today. dawn >> brilliant, sophie, thank you very much. i hope you managed to get a well deserved pint in and enjoy the game yourself . and, enjoy the game yourself. and, good luck to everyone. i can't be partisan here, even though my lovely father in law is a big man city fan. but he's 90. he's allowed to be, thank you very much, sophie. and if you are watching the game, please do remember to actually watch or listen to gb news at the same time, because nana really has got a cracking show, now i'm dawn neesom and this is gb news saturday and there's loads more coming up on today's show. saturday and there's loads more coming up on today's show . a top coming up on today's show. a top bbc executive has warned this week that we need to save the sitcom and fight for mainstream comedy . we might have a point comedy. we might have a point there, mightn't they? all of that and much more
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>> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you
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know, we always love to hear your views. now, there's a new way of getting in touch with us @gbnews com forward slash your say by commenting. you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you can even talk to me, bev turner or any of the members of the gb news family. simply go to gb news. com forward slash your say i >> welcome back. it's gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your telly online and on digital radio now. brilliant response to today shows. i can't thank you enough for getting in touch and that's how you do it. ng news.com forward slash your sofa. many many have you. so i'm going to read a load of them out andifs going to read a load of them out and it's the two debates that have got you going, the voting age and the cannabis versus alcohol thing, james arum says on the, on the voting thing, james says, i've been asking all my mates and without sounding
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glib, i have very many friends indeed. okay, james, not one of them are even going to bother voting and these are highly intelligent people. they've all just given up, same as me. you know what? i think there's an awful lot of people in that vote. it'd be very interesting to see what the turnout is on this one, now, this one's interesting. this is ulez. this one, now, this one's interesting. this is ulez . what interesting. this is ulez. what a lovely name, mr sunak has some talents , but where is his talents, but where is his self—awareness? he believes he can do it all by himself. well, he might have to. right there. leaving. why does he not use the talents of the best campaigner the tories have ? boris johnson the tories have? boris johnson interesting and on the. yeah the amount again. this is from candice. hello candice . candice. hello candice. abandoned ship. tories, rats fleeing the sinking tory party. more like it. can't take the heat of their own toxic mess. so they're jumping ship before the pubuc they're jumping ship before the public can boot them out. pathetic. guess they know the days of lining their pockets are oveh days of lining their pockets are over. one last one. i'm going to read this one out. this is from phil. hello, phil. thank you. i
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think phil says i really fancy some lemon meringue pie. now dawn, after you're seeing your suit, i'm taking that as a compliment. phil, and thank you very much for all the comments on the. yes, it's slightly bright colour, but keep those thoughts coming in because nana's got more on that age debate coming up as well. so you can she will be covering that story too now. so, let's move on to the final topic we're talking about today, which is dada showbiz. i'm not very good at that, am i? but hayley is here with us, and she is much better. so welcome, hayley, and let's find out what is going on in the showbiz world. well, first of all, i think the main story is your seat. oh. thank you. does it make you fancy lemon meringue pie? >> i think next week i'm going to have to try the lemon meringue thing for sure. i can see it going viral, but no, we're talking about, an article that i read today where it says bbc bosses say that comedy , the bbc bosses say that comedy, the comedy industry, needs a lot more energy to survive live.
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now, i don't know about you, but i love a good comedy . yeah, i i love a good comedy. yeah, i will literally get a pizza saturday night and watch a good comedy for me. i just can't find anything that makes me laugh. like i will literally put on your fawlty towers , gavin and your fawlty towers, gavin and stacey, the office, and for me, maybe i'm just old school, but, i mean, there are things about comedies, but for me, it doesn't work. i'm not interested. >> they're not funny. >> they're not funny. >> they're not funny. >> the point of comedy is when i went to set was very , very lucky went to set was very, very lucky enough to go to see fawlty towers of stage play, we went to a matinee and it was full. it was absolutely packed, and they were all age groups in the audience and everyone was laughing. yeah. how often do you get that? and gavin and stacey is coming back for a christmas special. >> bring it on. that christmas special. >> i'm loving fun. >> i'm loving fun. >> but the thing is, i went to the theatre to see micky flanagan, the comedian, and when you get there , they literally you get there, they literally 9°, you get there, they literally go, give us your phone. i was like, oh gosh. and they put it away because they don't want you filming it because they're so scared you're going to film something that maybe they shouldn't say and that you're going to put it on social media. so everyone is just scared now
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of saying something wrong. and that's why it's not funny, because we weren't offended before , but now people are before, but now people are offended. well, this is the problem. >> i mean, ricky gervais does this very, very well, doesn't he? in his stage show, which again, are always sell—outs, you know, he tells some really, really off colour jokes. i mean, you know, you are going to be offended, but he does it in such a way that it's funny. and if we can't laugh at ourselves, what can't laugh at ourselves, what can we laugh at? and this is a bbc boss that said, this isn't it that, you know, we need to the bbc. hello. talk to yourselves. look in the mirror. put some stuff out. that's actually funny. yeah. >> and the thing is, you'll see a lot of comedians now are actually being presenters or quiz show hosts because they're too scared of what they're saying. i've seen it so much on social media now. they're just scared of it. but like you say, make us laugh, make don and i laugh. end of rant. yes. >> no, absolutely . i think, and >> no, absolutely. i think, and meanwhile, stacey dooley, what's going on with stacey? >> she's going into a west end play >> she's going into a west end play called ghost story. 222 i've seen it numerous times with cheryl cole.
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>> i like ghost stories, but i mean , but yeah. mean, but yeah. >> stacey, do you know what? it makes me upset. dawn i'm going to have a rant today. i'm in that sort of mood rant. it's a weekend. >> go for it. »- >> go for it. >> so basically i, i love dance, i love theatre, and it annoys me to be honest , when they put a to be honest, when they put a celebrity that has no acting training, as far as i'm aware , training, as far as i'm aware, instead of a trained actress actor that has been trained properly for three years at a theatre school, they don't give them a chance, but they do. >> but this is the thing with this show. they do do the put in a bit like they had cheryl cole , a bit like they had cheryl cole, didn't they? yeah. >> with no acting training. yeah, but obviously she puts bums on seats, i get that. but for me i want to see the talent that has worked so hard, that has had to do waitressing jobs to get there, that their parents have helped them. and, you know, the graph behind it. and then they get to that stage and they don't stand a chance . they go to don't stand a chance. they go to an audition? no, because they put a celebrity in or love island star that hasn't got any talent . sorry. talent. sorry. >> it's true. it's really not fun. it's really not fair , is fun. it's really not fair, is it? the big scandal obviously
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has been rumbling on for a while now, though . is our, strictly now, though. is our, strictly come dancing. now, this is on the front page. i think of the sun today. giovanni pernice , sun today. giovanni pernice, yes. it's this storm around how he treated allegedly treated various , dancers, you know, various, dancers, you know, professional professionals, celebrities that he was paired with is rumbling on. it's now gone legal . and according to the gone legal. and according to the sun today, it's actually threatening the whole 20 years of the show. what do you make? i think it's got completely out of context. >> i have trained as a dancer my whole life , and every single whole life, and every single dance teacher i had, every single choreographer i had was so strict. i remember being at school and so scared to go to my ballet classes, because that's how it was. so for me, if i was on strictly, i wouldn't it wouldn't faze me at all. i think it's he is a professional. he is trained so hard. he's an athlete. that's what he does. he wants to win the competition. i really feel for him and i just think the girls have ganged up
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on him personally. >> do you? i mean, these are all allegations . >> do you? i mean, these are all allegations. i mean, he denies any wrongdoing and it has all gone legal. we have to say that. but do you think something like this could actually really bring the show down? >> yes, i do, because okay, let's go into the next series of strictly. where is the line? because my opinion of him being strict with me could be different to your opinion. so what we're going to film every session and we've got someone assessing every move. it takes the fun out of it. it's a it's a sport. you need to be disciplined and don't enter it. if you don't want the training and the discipline to be a fantastic dancer, you know they're not just doing jazz hands, they're working 12 hours a day to be absolutely the best that that business is. sorry, i've had a real rant. >> no no no no, right away . one >> no no no no, right away. one final very quick story is we don't have time . evidently. oh don't have time. evidently. oh my god, that's blowing past. right. okay. thank you. so much. my pleasure. showbiz supremo. right. well, i've been dawn neesom and this is gb news saturday bank holiday weekend. thank you so much for joining saturday bank holiday weekend. thank you so much forjoining me this afternoon. but don't go
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anywhere because there's plenty more coming up on gb news today with nana akua. and at 6:00 it's the saturday vie. but first, it's the saturday vie. but first, wsfime the saturday vie. but first, it's time for your weekend weather with greg and let's hope it's a good one. it's a bank holiday. thanks for watching. see you soon. bye >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest for weather gb news. over the next 24 hours it's all changes. areas of rain moving from the atlantic. some heavy showers developing as well. and that's all thanks to low pressure which is going to dominate through the rest of the bank holiday weekend. areas of rain, some heavy showers and we can see that rain already pushing into some western areas. today's rain still lingering across eastern parts of england, pushing its way northward. some heavy bursts possible into the early hours, as we can see, most areas cloudy outbreaks of rain
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pushing northward , but this will pushing northward, but this will keep temperatures up for most. staying in double figures, turning breezy around the coast and over the hills as well, so it means a bit of a grey start to sunday morning. some glimmers of sunshine, perhaps first thing across south west england, but let's take a look at the details for sunday morning we can see a dry start across northern scotland. 1 or 2 spells of sunshine but rain across the central belt, southern parts of scotland into northern ireland. some of this heavy at times two temperatures on the mild side to start the day, we can see cloudy across the rest of england and wales. two outbreaks of rain in places but some sunshine developing from the southwest, and these brighter skies will slowly push northwards as we move through the day on sunday, with the rain becoming more confined to the northern half of the uk. further south, though, we will see some heavy thundery showers develop , particularly showers develop, particularly across parts of england and wales. these could lead to some local disruption, some hail, some localised flooding as well. temperatures a little lower
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compared to saturday, generally the mid to high teens locally up to around about 21 degrees across south east england . into across south east england. into the evening time, thunderstorms will slowly fade away. we'll still see further spells of rain across parts of scotland. northern ireland, northern england as we head into the early hours and then the next few days. it does remain unsettled further showers on monday, further spells of rain tuesday and into wednesday . tuesday and into wednesday. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> i'm christopher hope and i'm gloria de piero bringing you pmqs live here on gb news whenever parliament is in session on a wednesday at midday, we'll bring you live coverage of prime minister's questions. >> we'll be asking our viewers and listeners to submit the questions that they would like to put to the prime minister, and we'll put that to our panel of top politicians in our westminster studio.
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