channel. >> hello. good afternoon. it's 3:00. welcome to gb news on tv. online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. >> and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines. >> right now, this show is all about opinion. >> it's mine, it's theirs. >> it's mine, it's theirs. >> and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew plaza, now coming up on the show on wednesday, rishi sunak called a general election for the 4th of

july. 78 tory mps are now leaving parliament, a post—war record breaking exodus, with michael gove and andrea leadsom becoming the latest mps to announce that they will not stand so the great british debate this hour i'll be asking was rishi right to call an election now.7 the was rishi right to call an election now? the conservative mp for south thanet, craig mckinley? i don't know whether you watched that incredible documentary on gb news. he returned to parliament for the first time this week since his battle with sepsis , which left battle with sepsis, which left him without any hands or feet. we'll be discussing the impact and science behind this life threatening condition in this week's hot topic. then my difficult conversation is with son of the famous photographer david bailey, sasha bailey, a former model who has the nhs waiting list to thank for giving him time to think, stopping him from going down a path of gender reassignment surgery. he says he's happy to be alive. you will not want to miss that story. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with cameron walker .

walker. >> gnaana. thank you. it is 3:01. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom. now we've got some breaking news. in the last few minutes. an aircraft has crashed into a field near coningsby in lincolnshire. police and emergency services were rushed to the scene just before 120 this afternoon. it's believed to be a single occupant aircraft and nobody else is thought to have been involved . thought to have been involved. but roads do remain closed. they are in place in areas of dogdyke road and sandy bank. motorists are being urged to avoid the area . well. to other news now, area. well. to other news now, sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to include 16 and 17 year olds. it comes as both major parties pitched their message to voters on the first weekend of the election campaign, with the government focusing on economic growth. the labour leader says if you can work, you deserve to have a say in democracy now! 78 conservative mps have now stepped down ahead of the summer

election, which is a post—war record . it also surpasses the record. it also surpasses the previous high, which took place pnor previous high, which took place prior to tony blair's victory for labour in 1997. it comes as the tories trail in the polls , the tories trail in the polls, with all parties continuing their election campaigning today . liberal democrats leader sir ed davey says his party is ready to see a new parliament. >> the liberal democrats have got a fantastic set of policies on the health service, on the economy and on the environment. today we're campaigning against the sewage problem and we've led that campaign. i think overall we're just much more ambitious than some of the other parties. and critically , we want to and critically, we want to transform british politics. we think the politics in our country is broken. it needs to be changed. and we're the only party talking about that . party talking about that. >> a 17 year old boy from lancashire has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman was found dead on a beach in bournemouth last night, dorset police said they were called to reports of two women stabbed on durley chine beach at

around 1145 in the evening, a 34 year old woman was pronounced dead at the scene while a 38 year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries . year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries. now year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries . now there with serious injuries. now there are still waits of around two hours in the port of dover this afternoon , as an estimated 20 afternoon, as an estimated 20 million cars hit the road for the bank holiday weekend. the aa is forecasting severe delays, with huge queues seen waiting to cross from dover into mainland europe. the port says there's congestion at the french border , congestion at the french border, and they're working closely with kent police to put additional traffic management measures in place . russian president place. russian president vladimir putin is reportedly ready to pause his invasion of ukraine with a negotiated ceasefire that would recognise current battlefield lines, according to four sources who've spoken to the news agency reuters . the russian president reuters. the russian president has grown frustrated by what he sees as western attempts to derail possible negotiations. asked about the report during a visit to belarus yesterday, putin said talks should resume

and negotiations should be based on the reality on the ground. ukraine's president zelenskyy has previously said that peace, according to putin's terms, is impossible now, despite today's sunny skies, thunderstorms. i'm afraid and possibly hail could be on the way later this evening . a yellow warning has been issued from midday tomorrow, with heavy showers possible across large parts of england and the north of wales. but the met office expects the wet weather to settle into light . weather to settle into light. patchy showers in time for bank houday patchy showers in time for bank holiday monday , and one of the holiday monday, and one of the most popular us presidents is getting the film treatment, as the actor dennis quaid puts his spin on ronald reagan . spin on ronald reagan. >> what would you say is the issue of our time? >> no question about it. >> no question about it. >> communism and the soviet union getting the game run for office. >> yeah, the first trailer for a new film about the 40th president has just been released. it tells the story of president reagan's life from from confronting childhood

bullies to becoming a hollywood actor and then taking his seat in the oval office. the cast also includes penelope ann miller as first lady nancy reagan, mena suvari as his first wife, actress jane wyman, and lesley—anne down as margaret thatcher. reagan is due for release in august. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . nana. back to. nana. >> thank you cameron. it is fast approaching seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua welcome . oh my goodness. akua welcome. oh my goodness. it's time to mock the week. and what a busy one it's been. i mean, the week was dominated by the announcement of a general election, with rishi sunak talking with the labour party anthem in the background. >> earlier today, i spoke with

his majesty the king to request the dissolution of parliament. the king has granted this request and we will have a general election on the 4th of july. >> well, this is on a par with theresa may in her conference speech. remember the one where she lost her voice? the letters fell off and somebody handed her a p45. well, later , rishi a p45. well, later, rishi addressed the tory rally on the 5th of july i the keir starmer i will be prime minister >> and he has shown time and time again that he will take the easy way out and do anything to get power. if he was happy to abandon all the promises that he made to become labour leader once he got the job, how can you know that? he wouldn't do exactly the same thing if he were to become prime minister? well, we conservatives have got a clear plan with bold action to secure our future board. so let's take that message and that vision of a secure future to every corner of our united kingdom. and let's show labour that the british people will never be taken for granted .

never be taken for granted. >> labour's sir keir starmer and his lacklustre speech was where he was clearly caught by surprise with the announcement . surprise with the announcement. >> most importantly of all, we do all this with a new spirit of service as country, first party, second, a rejection of the gesture, politics you will see in this campaign. i have no doubt from the tories and the snp . i'm well aware of the snp. i'm well aware of the cynicism people hold towards politicians at the moment, but i came into politics late, having served our country as leader of the crown prosecution service , the crown prosecution service, and i helped the police service in northern ireland to gain the consent of all communities. service of our country is the reason, and the only reason why i am standing here now asking for your vote. >> well, he looked at me like he

couldn't believe his luck. i got a sense of i can't believe i might actually be in power. i've seen more and more excited when he's his football team are playing arsenal, isn't it? ed davey and his liberal democrat crew of neither here nor there. everyone's grinning like cheshire cats. >> favourite word change for far too long, people across the united kingdom have been let down and taken for granted by this conservative government, and this out of touch conservative party. >> but with this election, we have the chance to win the change our country so desperately needs . desperately needs. >> yeah, they're all talking about change. change change, change, reform. richard tice claiming no nonsense from the other parties and that they will be standing 630 candidates. do they even have 630 candidates? >> everybody feels worse off after 14 years of tory failure . after 14 years of tory failure. that's the result of incompetence. and these experts ,

incompetence. and these experts, along with weak, feeble politicians who have broken britain and sadly , that failure britain and sadly, that failure of the establishment and the experts manifests itself in the great scandals that we hear about. >> the snp made their voices heard . heard. >> never has a government deserved to lose more than rishi sunak government. you want higher living standards and a fairer country where everyone can lead, secure, happy, healthy lives. >> you want a national health service you can rely upon? most of you think that brexit was a terrible mistake. you do not think westminster works for scotland and you want scotland to have a strong voice. >> all of those things sum up what i am about and the dup. >> there is a good opportunity here, but there's a choice for the people of northern ireland.

>> do they want to elect people who don't bother to turn up for them in our national parliament, or they do want to vote for people who are prepared to go to westminster and put forward the best case for northern ireland as part of this united kingdom. >> that's the history that we have, and that's the message that we will bring . that we will bring. >> so that's pretty much it the best of well, i don't know any of them. take your fancy. here we go again . we go again. >> you're joking. not another one. >> it's been a mucky old week . >> it's been a mucky old week. well, coming up, comedian josh howie, we'll be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week at 320. it's my hot topic and my roundtable discussion . we'll be talking discussion. we'll be talking about sepsis as inspiring conservative mp craig mckinley returned to parliament this week after his battle . then, at 335, after his battle. then, at 335, uri geller will be live to discuss the impact of the uk's general election on the war in on israel and in israel. and joining me to shine a light on

the political hot seat today is, of course, sir john curtis, polling expert and professor of politics at the university of strathclyde. he's in my political spotlight. at 345. that's coming up. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. send me your views. you can post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay . visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. >> what are we going to do? just go for it. >> right. so joining me now comedian josh howie. it's mock the week where it's been pretty mucky. all right let's kick it off. rishi sunak speech i mean there he was in the rain with there he was in the rain with the music in the background. well i don't think it was rain. >> i think it was sweat. >> i think it was sweat. >> do you think it was on top of his clothes? >> more drenching ? no, not just >> more drenching? no, not just his sweat. just the sweat of all the tory mps as well. realising that they're most likely out of a job very soon. >> it was so tragic. and the music as well, that the labour party arade dam, that was pretty funny. why could they not stop the music? i mean, at least just out of respect? >> well, it was, i think was it

steve bray who did it? i think i mean, i feel for rishi, i genuinely do because but that i've got to go was that was funny. >> well it was very funny. i mean it's sort of like that sort of almost like a drowned rat, as if everyone's jumping off the ship of the tory party, all of them leaving an exodus of mps. >> it's a sad state of affairs where i heard that one of the reasons why they went to an election now was that they didn't think this country would get any better, or would only get any better, or would only get worse over the next six months or so. and if this is if we're at the pinnacle of where a tory government can take us, that's a sad state of affairs . that's a sad state of affairs. >> well, i mean, sir keir starmer, he responded with his speech. now i mean, i watched that and thought he he looked surprised . oh my god, i might surprised. oh my god, i might actually have to do something . actually have to do something. >> i know the moment he's been sort of clinging onto for years, but that i mean for me, him talking about gesture politics and then he is like surrounded by, i don't know how many british flags that they uk flags , they could get into the room at one time. and he's literally dressed as a, as a, as a uk

flag. i mean he had the red tie, the white shirt. he's sort of a blue ish. he said. so it was pretty much the whole thing was just like, i'm, i'm a patriot and i am not jeremy corbyn. that seemed to be the main message. not that i'm a change from the tories, but i'm a change from the 2019 disastrous election for laboun the 2019 disastrous election for labour, deservedly so . labour, deservedly so. >> well, jeremy corbyn is hovering around now. he's an independent candidate , isn't he? independent candidate, isn't he? somewhere in north london? yes, i'm not sure who i'm going to campaign for, but i just know i'd be out there campaigning against him. gladly. >> interesting . and what about >> interesting. and what about the liberal democrats? because for me, there was always a confusion as to what colour their banner was, whether it was yellow or orange, yellow, orange , i know, but but that's doesn't maybe that sums them up. >> we don't really know what they're about. he seemed very smiley. he was he was just he was very happy to have a chance of getting a couple more mps. i also quite like they had a sort of handheld camera. that was it was very sort of cinema verite . was very sort of cinema verite. it just showed that the lib dems are dangerous and crazy kids.

>> we're crazy. we got it going on while surrounded by sort of other mps in the background. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> so you've got them. who else have we got? we've got the snp. yes i mean they have wrecked scotland pretty much. >> i know, i mean that was so sort of calling the kettle pot, calling the kettle black or whatever , but because it's like, whatever, but because it's like, oh they, we accused the tories of wrecking the uk. yeah. and the snp have wrecked scotland and this is their comining now, that, the you can't talk about the nhs when they controlled the nhs in scotland and have and it's much and it's actually worse somehow than the uk. than than than england and even wales. so yeah this is a coming for the snp and, and again about time. yeah. >> there's a feeling that labour will do. well. i mean they used to have a stranglehold on scotland and then of course the snp came up and to me when i, you know, i would have thought that looked like a failure of the labour government to not or the labour government to not or the labour government to not or the labour party to lose their stronghold on scotland, which

hopefully , in my view probably hopefully, in my view probably means the union is safer if at least one of the mainline parties is. >> absolutely. i mean, be careful what you wish for and the scottish people wanted or enough of them wanted, nationalism. and they wanted to go nationalism. and they wanted to 90 by nationalism. and they wanted to go by themselves. and they saw what would happen if an snp government came into power and they had it and it didn't work out. well it was a bit like the management of brexit, really. >> if you look at it. i mean, we've been given control and we seem to have royally stuffed elements of it up and haven't, in my view, taken advantage of some of the things. what about the dup there? >> there to my only insight is that he's a big boy. he's a it's a if he told me to vote for him, i would probably just do it out of fear . but just him just go, of fear. but just him just go, just vote for me. i'd be like, yeah mate, okay, that is pretty much our our roundup of candidates. >> and we're not mentioning greens greens in any way. >> another do you think the greens have some sort of. no, i think they become the sort of bastion of cranks. they got kicked out of labour and i feel like they, the greens have been

sucking them in and i don't even know if they it's the funniest thing for me seeing greens is they're sort of desperately trying to connect. they're new followers, which are frankly a lot of islamist followers and trying to connect the war in gaza somehow to saving the environment. >> yeah, it's an odd thing, isn't it? well, i think part of it is the greta thunberg connection, because of course, greta got herself involved in all of that, probably because she was losing relevance. and a lot of people are actually going off net zero. the conservatives i know are considering dropping that in as a main policy. liz truss talked about that, this week. but interestingly, i think she's conflated it. so it's helped them with their sort of cause.i helped them with their sort of cause. i don't see the connection. >> no, there is no connection. i think the connection is she's young and a bit ignorant and stupid, like so many of the people out on marches. and it's virtue signalling, and she's surrounded by other young , surrounded by other young, stupid people. and, and i think it's, it's a shame. and it does her cause of the environment. i think actual harm does. >> do you think young people should get the vote? sir keir starmer was saying that if you

work, you should vote, which would then. no, i think that's a stupid mistake, i think i can't believe this is the first big policy that he's announcing. >> i think that's absolutely ridiculous. there's much more out there, much more important stuff to focus on. housing. for many people, the nhs , many people, the nhs, immigration. there's just a lot more out there. this is like a fringe issue. the it's so obviously self—serving because of course younger people are going to vote labour anyway. and i'm probably going to vote laboun i'm probably going to vote labour. i haven't fully committed, but i just think it's just bad optics and a bad thing to focus on where there's so much more out there that needs, needs our attention. >> well, i personally i have no idea who i would vote for, but i will urge everyone to exercise their vote. it is important people fought for that to be the case. so josh then so 16 year olds yes or no to the vote. ridiculous. self—serving policy stupid. >> yeah, absolutely. i don't get it at all. and young people are stupid and not just 18 year olds are stupid. i'm stupid , but the are stupid. i'm stupid, but the 16 year olds are even more stupid. >> well, the thing is, because i'm undecided, i'm an old oldie, so if i can't work out what to do, then i don't see how they're

going to do it either. no, i think it's shocking. silly. yeah. so, josh, when are you back on? when are you back on? >> i'm back on this evening. i'm hosting headliners, so please tune in. watch the show all day, watch the channel, and i'll put on a suit in the meantime. and and we'll see you in a few hours. >> thank you very much. josh howie on headliners tonight, 11:00. make sure you stay there for that one if you just join me. welcome aboard. it's 19 minutes after 3:00. this is a gb news on tv , online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll be going live to tel aviv to hear uri geller, his thoughts on how the uk election will impact israel. but next, the inspiring conservative mp craig mckinlay returned to parliament this week after his battle with sepsis will find out more about the life threatening condition and of course, his battle. this is .

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tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. don't forget as well, you can download the gb news app . it is completely free. news app. it is completely free. but now, of course, it's time for our roundtable discussion and the inspiring conservative mp craig mackinlay . and the inspiring conservative mp craig mackinlay. he and the inspiring conservative mp craig mackinlay . he returned mp craig mackinlay. he returned to parliament this week after his battle with sepsis. now he had extreme symmetry that removed both his hands and feet, replacing them with prosthetics. he sat down with gb news christopher hope, but one day his life changed. >> suddenly. it was one of those days that will be etched on craig's memory for life . it was craig's memory for life. it was the end of september 2023. he was getting ready to go on houday was getting ready to go on holiday with his family. he started to feel unwell and unexpectedly , vie craig had unexpectedly, vie craig had contracted sepsis, so the grim reaper let me survive. >> but he's taken his payment in four of my limbs. >> but that's the way it is. >> but that's the way it is. >> plenty of worse things happening. >> that is it . happening. >> that is it. no way back. happening. >> that is it . no way back. and,

>> that is it. no way back. and, yes, he was very matter of fact. he accepted that they black. they're not any use anymore . they're not any use anymore. >> and that's it. >> and that's it. >> so he had a very long, very long operation . and he did come long operation. and he did come back. long operation. and he did come back . without those black arms back. without those black arms and legs . and legs. >> and by then i was fine. >> and by then i was fine. >> i just knew that is it. that's the new, new future. >> new life begins. >> new life begins. >> and, of course, i mean, it could have been a lot worse , but could have been a lot worse, but his wife was brilliant. i mean, she's a pharmacist. and she said that they were actually going to cut his arms off at the at the top of his arms and the top of his legs. but then, she managed to talk them out of it and thankfully he, he survived this. well, joining me now is psychologist and social commentator doctor pam spurr and also nhs gp doctor doctor david lloyd. thank you so much for

joining me, now i want to start with you, doctor david lloyd. what is sepsis? what exactly how doesit what is sepsis? what exactly how does it work? what is it about ? does it work? what is it about? >> so it starts with an infection. very often a bacterial infection, and it overwhelms the body's defence system . and as a result of that, system. and as a result of that, the body goes into organ failure. everything fails . and failure. everything fails. and the tragedy is that that process starts blood clotting in the places where it shouldn't. and so the periphery of the body, so the hands and legs, lose their oxygen supply and go black and tragedy occurs when gangrene sets in. and really, you have to sets in. and really, you have to set the surgeons on the patient, to, to cut the limbs off before they, cause any problems for the rest of the body. sepsis is an incredibly common condition. there are five people dying every hour in the uk. and sepsis. >> wow. now this is. most people would have heard of it, but have

thought that it wouldn't really affect them. doctor pam spurr , i affect them. doctor pam spurr, i understand that you you have had a personal experience with, with the disease or the condition. >> yes. i didn't in 2016. >> yes. i didn't in 2016. >> i'd been skiing in france. >> i'd been skiing in france. >> i'd been skiing in france. >> i woke up the last morning of a holiday with, spider bites on my hands, which were horrendously itchy , so i didn't horrendously itchy, so i didn't think anything of it. >> i thought, well, you know, i went to the chemist there. the french chemist gave me some ointment , french chemist gave me some ointment, said, definitely a spider. >> there were two fangs for each bite to, you know, puncture marks. got to home london. was going to go on this morning television for an appearance went along and they were getting really bad. >> and i said to the makeup artist, i better put some makeup on this. >> my hands are looking horrible and so she snapped on makeup, which was the worst thing to do because makeup is full of bacteria, after the program , i bacteria, after the program, i called my daughter in law, who was a trainee gp, and she said, if your gp can't see you this

afternoon , then go to a&e went afternoon, then go to a&e went to my gp, he put me on oral antibiotics, which is classically the first thing you do for, say, something like infected bites . but then he said infected bites. but then he said if it gets worse and he drew a circle with a pen around the bites on each hand and said, if the redness spreads, go to a&e by that night i made my first trip to a&e. they put me on an iv and they told me to come back the next day for a second iv, and they again were doing circles . and the circles are circles. and the circles are getting bigger. by day three, the junior doctor in a&e looked with such panic , called with such panic, called a consultant and the consultant admitted me into my own room. i was on drips for eight days. the cellulitis, the cellulitis became sepsis. my body overreacted. i was very ill by the end of that week, but then they kept trying to bring cocktails of antibiotics, which they will do in hospital if you're not responding. they try. they throw everything at it. and

the final cocktail had an enormous effect on day six. and by day eight i was released. i had a community nurse come tend my hands for a week. after that, she came on five different occasions and then they have recovered with just darker skin from the sepsis and some scarring from that where the tendons got my hands were so bloated, the tendons were pulled. i'm lucky because i caught it early. talking to my daughter in law, as i say, was a trainee gp. you're 50% more likely to survive if you catch it early. and that is the big message, you know, get into your doctor, get into a&e if you if and i'm sure as doctor lloyd can say, there are many different symptoms of sepsis. mine started with the skin infection cellulitis. but then i went into sepsis , so david. yeah, what sepsis, so david. yeah, what should we look out for, to give us an indication as to whether

we have sepsis or not, because it's, as i understand, quite difficult to initially work out what it is. it takes a while and then eventually it becomes obvious . obvious. >> yes, i think so. >> i think that since covid, a lot of us, of course, have got these little gadgets at home which measure our oxygen and our pulse rate. so you can be a little bit more accurate than we used to be. but i think a sudden onset of i think we can i'm sorry, i'm going to go on a bit, but, divided up into adults and children. >> so if you're an adult, if you suddenly develop acute confusion, you get slurred speech or get confused when you start shivering with a very high temperature. >> or alternatively , a very low >> or alternatively, a very low temperature, if you haven't passed any urine in a day and you get very out of breath and you're breathing very fast, and a lot of people who get sepsis say it feels as if i'm going to die. >> they feel so dreadful that they think something awful is going to happen . and as as has going to happen. and as as has been demonstrated, if you're

going to get if your skin start to mottle or if you get a rash that doesn't fade away when you press on it, those are all the signs that you should think sepsis and really don't stop. you've got an hour to get the antibiotics into you and then you'll do all right. >> really. so it's so i was going to say it's more difficult in children. >> and it's particularly more difficult in babies. and so in babies and the very elderly. >> those are the key groups that really do suffer the most from sepsis. >> so if you're a mother of a young baby, you've got a much tougher job trying to identify sepsis in your baby. >> but, if your baby is not feeding, if your baby is breathing very fast, if your baby's got a temperature, and particularly if you've got this awful meningococcus rash where it looks like blood under the skin, and when you try and stretch the skin, it doesn't disappear . stretch the skin, it doesn't disappear. so those are stretch the skin, it doesn't disappear . so those are the disappear. so those are the signs to call for help straight away. >> okay . well, thank you very >> okay. well, thank you very much for that. that's doctor david lloyd. and also our political commentator, doctor pam spurr. thank you very much

for your thoughts. that's, so yeah, obviously if you do are worried about anything like that, of course, go straight to a&e, you know, because sepsis is quite a serious condition, as you saw in craig's condition. it can it can take over quite quickly as well . if you've just quickly as well. if you've just tuned in. welcome. it's coming up to 31 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news time. nana akua. well live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up at four gb news is people's poll. the statistics we're checking those out and how each party is currently doing . but first, here currently doing. but first, here are your latest news headlines with ray addison . with ray addison. >> thanks. nana 331. our top stories and we start with some breaking news. a single occupant aircraft has crashed into a field near coningsby in lincolnshire. police and emergency services rushed to the scene just before 120 this afternoon. there are multiple media reports that the plane involved is a spitfire, which

was taking part in a battle of britain memorial event. road closures are in place and motorists are being urged to avoid the area . now to other avoid the area. now to other news and sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to 16. speaking to reporters , to 16. speaking to reporters, the labour leader said if you can work and pay tax then you ought to be able to vote. it comes as both major parties pitch their messages to voters on the first weekend of the election campaign , with the election campaign, with the government focusing on the economy , while lib dem leader economy, while lib dem leader sir ed davey says his party is ready to see in a new parliament. he was speaking after the number of tory mps stepping down reached 78. that's a post—war record. it also surpasses the previous high pnor surpasses the previous high prior to tony blair's victory in 1997. well, there are still waits of around two hours in the port of dover this afternoon, as an estimated 20 million cars hit the road for the bank holiday weekend . the port says there's

weekend. the port says there's congestion at the french border, too , and they're working closely too, and they're working closely with kent police to put additional traffic management measures into place . well, if measures into place. well, if you want all the latest headlines, you can sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or go to gb news .com/ alerts straight back to . nana. back to. nana. >> thank you ray. still to come to john curtice. polling expert and professor of politics at the university of strathclyde , will university of strathclyde, will be in the political hot seat to shine a light on the latest polling . but shine a light on the latest polling. but coming up shine a light on the latest polling . but coming up next, polling. but coming up next, we'll be going live to tel aviv to hear from uri geller and his thoughts on how the uk election will impact israel. don't

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gb news. we're on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and it's time now to get the latest from israel. now, as earlier this month , people in earlier this month, people in england and wales voted in local and mayoral elections . as and mayoral elections. as a first glance, at first glance, labour appeared to dominate , labour appeared to dominate, with the conservatives losing over half their races. however despite winning in many areas, labour's support saw a decrease in areas with a high number of students and muslims who cited gaza as the reason for their shift away from the party. so the question i'm wondering is what impact could the up and coming uk general election have on israel and vice versa? well, joining me now is performer and mystifier uri geller. so uri, what's on your mind? >> okay, look. wow. nana. what a week. so much has happened. britain calls an election. the president of iran is killed . the president of iran is killed. the international criminal court is thinking of arresting our prime minister. wow. that's enough to fill an entire program. but first, look at this . this is

first, look at this. this is heartbreaking. the idf just found the bodies of these three israelis who were murdered on the 7th of october. hamas took their bodies to gaza and held them. such cruelty. now, did you know labour. labour supports a ceasefire before we get the rest of our hostages back? that's unbelievable. so whoever becomes the british prime minister in july really matters to israel. on the one hand, keir starmer supports a ceasefire and on the other hand, rishi sunak doesn't nana. as you know, i'm an israeli, but i'm also a british citizen, so i do care about the outcome of the elections now . outcome of the elections now. the main parties policies are actually very different about israel. keir starmer is more enthusiastic about recognising a palestinian state than rishi sunak and in my opinion , this is

sunak and in my opinion, this is my opinion. this is very dangerous. you can't force a palestinian state on israel . it palestinian state on israel. it would be immediately overrun by hamas and they would attack israel again and again. now you also just had local elections and labour lost and labour lost in areas with large muslim populations . as you said, this populations. as you said, this is also very , very worrying is also very, very worrying because they now have to win back the support of voters who don't even believe israel should exist . now look at this. look, exist. now look at this. look, all these marches in london, all the student protests, all the unions, most of them are labour supporters. and for them, the palestinians are the number one cause. look, nana, it makes no sense . what has the palestinians sense. what has the palestinians got to do with nhs waiting lists

or education or jobs? but every labour conference and you know that you see palestine flags everywhere. i believe if keir starmer gets in, there will be a surge in anti—semitism because the left is obsessed with israel. all the anti—semitic ism and hatred of israel, which rose up under jeremy corbyn, is still up underjeremy corbyn, is still there under the surface, and i think it will sweep keir starmer away. now, finally, there is also something else. did you know, nana, that labour said said they would respect an order by the international criminal court to arrest our prime minister, benjamin netanyahu? i hope you know that because just to be clear, the icc has not issued an arrest warrant, but it issued an arrest warrant, but it is thinking of doing so. so if labour gets in and our prime

minister visits london, he could get arrested on the tarmac of heathrow airport this can never be allowed to happen. so finally, finally , there are six finally, finally, there are six weeks until the vote and a lot is going to happen between now and then. so nana, you know that we will have a lot to talk about. until then. i love you all. thank you very much for having me on your show. >> thank you very much, uri. that's a brilliant uri geller and his thoughts on the up and coming elections and what effects it might have on this country. although i will say that of course, the students at those rallies would say that they are fighting for peace . and they are fighting for peace. and on one on the one hand, though, i do agree that it is interesting that our governments, whichever be them labour or conservative, think that they can sort of impact or tell other countries what to do and as to how they solve their own wars. and i just don't see that working in any way, shape or form. but hey, that's my thoughts. or what are yours? gbnews.com/yoursay say next though. sirjohn

gbnews.com/yoursay say next though. sir john curtice gbnews.com/yoursay say next though. sirjohn curtice is polling. he's a polling expert and professor of politics at the university of strathclyde, and he'll be in the political hot seat to shine a

good afternoon. welcome. if you've just tuned in, this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua, andifs digital radio. i'm nana akua, and it's now time for this week's political spotlight. and joining me to shine a light is sir john curtice. he's a polling sirjohn curtice. he's a polling expert and professor of politics at the university of strathclyde. so thank you very much, professor. thank you very much, professor. thank you very much , john, for joining much, professor. thank you very much , john, forjoining us. so much, john, forjoining us. so this is a very exciting moment actually in polling . sorry. my actually in polling. sorry. my computer's full. crikey. what's happened here? sorry my computer started but this is very exciting moment in politics. now you famously said 99% chance labour of winning. is that still i >> -- >> oh -_ >> oh hang on, can i can i correct you straight away? sorry. i said there was a 99% chance that sir keir starmer

would be the next prime minister. that is not the same thing as the labour party winning, which we might want. >> the same thing is that not the same thing? >> no no, no. okay, so let me let me walk you through it. all right. go for it. the point is that , i right. go for it. the point is that, i mean, usually what people mean by winning is the party winning an overall majority. well, the truth is, there's quite a range of possible results that we would end up having a hung parliament, but in a hung parliament, what you need to understand is that the conservative party would be short of friends. basically we know that neither the liberal democrats nor the snp would be willing to vote for the king's speech of a minority conservative administration. they might perhaps just about get the support of the dup. so unless the conservatives are at around 315 to 320 seats, even if they've got more seats than laboun they've got more seats than labour, sir keir starmer will be the next prime minister. >> wow, that is different, isn't it? although i'm reading here, this is what it says in the telegraph. actually, labour has 99% chance of winning elections, says professor john curtice . no,

says professor john curtice. no, no, said yeah, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. >> as the journalist and professor is sometimes, as the chinese whispers of twitter go along there, what you originally said sometimes gets somewhat translated, so look, we did some polling ourselves and, according to our people's poll, labour are 27 points ahead with labour on 47% and the conservatives on 20, reform on 12 and lib dems on nine and greens are on eight. >> does that roughly reflect the polling? >> just tell me nana is that done since, wednesday's announcement? >> yeah , i'll find out for you. >> yeah, i'll find out for you. i'll ask them there when this was done. but what is the polling saying now? >> well, broadly speaking, okay, at least i'm aware of four polls that have been conducted since wednesday's announcement. so as of wednesday's announcement, if you take the average of the 13 companies, including, people polling, who had, polled at some point during may, what you

discovered was that on average, labour were 21 points ahead of the conservatives it's quite a range at the at the lower end , range at the at the lower end, one poll put it as low as 16, but the other end, another one put it as high as 26. now, since then, since wednesday's announcements, i'm at least am aware of four polls that have so far been published. and basically they do not show any significant change. 1 or 2 have the conservatives down a little bit, and then another one has them up a bit and the others have labour up a bit and other than another one has them down, crucially, and i think this perhaps the thing that we're most looking for in the early polls, no immediate sign of reform. who are the party that at the moment are taking more votes off the conservatives than anybody else? no sign of their vote being squeezed. so basically we have had now half a weeks of campaigning and it's not made any difference. that's interesting , isn't it? because a interesting, isn't it? because a lot of people were worried that and i think the conservatives

are worried. and one of the reasons i suspect rishi pulled the election early was so that reform couldn't form and be so , reform couldn't form and be so, you know, powerful as they could be in six months time because i'm sure they're probably scrabbling around to find 630 candidates for each of the seats. so i think that's a struggle, that of course, is one of the things, one of the things that we'll discover down the track, although the last time i saw anything about this reform were claiming to have quite a lot of candidates in place. >> but i mean, more broadly, we are asking ourselves, well, to what extent are reform not just simply able to fight an air war, i.e. with you in the media, but also on the ground getting leaflets through people's doors, being able to run a canvassing operation, etc. and that we're very uncertain. but and in the end, you know, i wouldn't be that surprised if reforms vote gets squeezed somewhat. but the thing here, you have to remember is this is that reform is predecessor. the brexit party did not fight conservative held constituencies in 2019. so even reform at 5% means in most of those constituencies it is

reform plus five plus six plus seven, and most of it coming from the conservatives and of course that does therefore mean that reform are most likely to do damage to the conservatives in seats that the conservatives are trying to defend. >> wow. yeah, it's going to be a very, very, very interesting election. i have to say . very, very, very interesting election. i have to say. i'm glued to it. i'm i'm finding the whole thing fascinating. what about the apathy and voting apathy, because a lot of people are saying they can't work out who to vote for. so they're not going to vote for anyone at all, or some people are going to spoil their ballots. what what do you have any polling that shows how how apathetic people are? >> well, it's not necessarily a question of apathy, although it's certainly true that these days you have to give voters a reason to vote, fewer of us have very strong emotional attachments to labour or conservative, liberal democrat or whatever . people do have to or whatever. people do have to be persuaded to cajole to the polls . and there are a couple of polls. and there are a couple of things that we know from our

experience of previous elections , particularly the general election of 2001, which is that if, first of all, people think there isn't much difference between the parties . and of between the parties. and of course, the labour party in particular has moved quite strongly towards the centre and arguably the conservative party has certainly not moved any further to the right than it was five years ago. so there's less distance between the parties now and but then secondly , if they and but then secondly, if they also conclude that the election is all over by the shouting and that's the potential impact of a 21 point lead in the opinion polls. if, of course , it's polls. if, of course, it's sustained through the six weeks, then both those things are known to make it less likely that people are going to go to the polls. and to that, i think we can add an additional factor, which is that neither sir keir starmer , umma nor rishi sunak starmer, umma nor rishi sunak are particularly popular for their. neither of them are gentlemen admirable, as they are in a whole variety of ways. the word charismatic is not one that

immediately associates with them the same thing is true with sir ed davey. it's true of john sweeney. north of the border. and in truth, i think it's. you have to go back a very long time to think, to find a previous occasion when we had a general election where in a sense, none of the parties had a leader who was really able to communicate widely with the public. that's undoubtedly the one of the reasons why there's a lot of interest in how much nigel farage is going to campaign for reform, because mr farage does have the ability to reach out to the electorate, or, of course, on the other side of the spectrum, you know, what impact will george galloway, who will have to try to defend his seat in rochdale, which he won in the by—election how much impact he will have? we do have two people who have charisma, but of course they're associated with relatively small parts of our political system. >> and people are talking about the, the muslim vote, although i know they're not one homogenous group of people who all feel the same thing, but if we imagine it in that sense that their vote will have an effect, is that likely to have much impact on

labour? >> well, i mean, if the pattern of the local elections kicks through and of course, it may well be that some people who identify as muslim who are upset about labour's stance on gaza, they might have been more willing to protest in the local elections than perhaps they will in a general election . but we'll in a general election. but we'll have to wait and see. i think at the moment we probably anticipate that. indeed, labour advance, such as it is across the country, will perhaps be weakest in constituencies with a large number of people who regard themselves as muslims. but of course, most of the constituencies where that's the case, it's already a pretty safe labour seat in most instances. so whether this will end up costing labour, even a single seat. but certainly probably not, very much so . it could be not, very much so. it could be difficult for labour. it could be embarrassing for labour, but whether or not it's going to stand in their way of getting the quite substantial majority that at the moment they seem to be heading for, that doesn't seem that likely . well, thank

seem that likely. well, thank you very much, sir john curtis, he's a polling expert and professor of politics at the university of strathclyde, very interesting. it's going to be a fascinating, few weeks or so coming up though, i'll be joined by my amazing panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza. next we'll be looking at the gb news people's poll statistics and seeing how each party is currently polling as the general election is set to take place on the 4th of july. do not go anywhere. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. don't forget you can download the gp news app and watch everything on the channel completely free. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest weather for gb news. over the next 24 hours it's all changes. areas of rain moving from the atlantic. some heavy

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conversation . now i'll be conversation. now i'll be speaking to sasha bailey after he gave up his plans to change genden he gave up his plans to change gender. you really won't want to miss that story was all about the nhs waiting list. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . latest news headlines. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. one minute past for our top stories this hour , a single stories this hour, a single occupant aircraft has crashed into a field near coningsby in lincolnshire. police and emergency services rushed to the scene just before 120 this afternoon. there are multiple reports that the plane involved is a spitfire, which was taking part in a battle of britain memorial event. road closures are currently in place and motorists are being urged to avoid the area. we'll bring you more on this developing story as we get it now. sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to include 16 and 17 year olds, both major parties are pitching their messages to

voters on the first weekend of the election campaign, with the government focusing on the economy. speaking to reporters, the labour leader said young people deserve to have their say i >>i -- >> i want to see 16 and 17 year olds voting . olds voting. >> they can go out and work, they can serve in our armed forces and of course, if they are out and working, they pay tax and therefore they should have a say over how the money they're paying in is being used. so yes, i want to see that for vote 16 and 17 year olds if you can work, if you can pay tax, if you can serve in your armed forces, then you ought to be able to vote. 78 conservative mps have now stepped down ahead of the summer election, which is a post—war record. it also surpasses the previous high, which took place prior to tony blair's victory in 1997. it comes as the tories trail in the polls, with all parties continuing their election campaigning today. lib dem leader sir ed davey says his party is ready for a new

parliament. >> the liberal democrats have got a fantastic set of policies on the health service, on the economy and on the environment. today we're campaigning against the sewage problem and we've led that campaign. i think overall we're just much more ambitious than some of the other parties . than some of the other parties. and critically, we want to transform british politics. we think the politics in our country is broken. it needs to be changed. and we're the only party talking about that. >> there are still waits of around two hours in the port of doven around two hours in the port of dover. this afternoon, as an estimated 20 million cars hit the road for the bank holiday weekend. the port says there's congestion at the french border, and they're working closely with kent police to put additional traffic management measures in place . a 17 year old boy from place. a 17 year old boy from lancashire has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman was found dead on a beach in bournemouth last night. dorset police said they were called to reports of two women stabbed on durley chine beach at

around 11:45 pm. a 34 year old was pronounced dead at the scene, while a 38 year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries . president putin is injuries. president putin is reportedly ready to pause his invasion of ukraine with a negotiated ceasefire that would recognise current battlefield lines , according to four lines, according to four sources. the russian president has grown frustrated by what he sees as western attempts to derail possible negotiations. asked about the report during a visit to belarus yesterday, putin said talks should resume and negotiations should be based on, quote , the realities on the on, quote, the realities on the ground. ukraine's president zelenskyy has previously said that peace, according to putin's terms, is impossible. well, despite today's rather sunny skies, thunderstorms and possibly hail could be on the way later on tonight, a yellow weather warning has also been issued from midday tomorrow, with heavy showers possible across large parts of england

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garden parties at buckingham palace are well underway. angela will give us all of that. then at five, it's this week's difficult conversations . sasha difficult conversations. sasha bayley after gave up on his plans to change gender, will be live in the studio. we'll hear why and how that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. send me your views. post your comments @gbnews .com. forward slash uk . right. but forward slash uk. right. but first joining me now is gb news political editor. oh no. before we do that should we do my election connection and it's all gone a bit crazy around here. all right. so this is some polling that gb news our people's poll did. and this is what we discovered . okay. so what we discovered. okay. so this is what we discovered. so this is what we discovered. so this is what we discovered. so this is how far ahead the labour party are apparently 47% ahead. and that is a gb news people's poll. so we're polling a lot of people who probably who watch and are participating within gb news and on gb news. so this is what people are watching this channel think. and of course,

the polling is wider than that as well. okay. let's have a look at the conservative, the conservatives are about a 20% again. so the conservatives are about 27 points behind the labour party. so it's quite serious really. the conservatives looks to me like they'll need to literally have a miracle for something different to happen. and let's have a look at reform now. reform people were a lot worried that reform would take on a lot of the conservative voters. and at the moment, 12, they are at 12. that is according to our people's poll , the liberal democrats, who poll, the liberal democrats, who have often made a big impact in many elections, appear to be behind at 9. now, of course, they are doing they are. they have said. ed davey said he would , join a coalition with the would, join a coalition with the labour party should the labour party need him . and then party need him. and then finally, the greens. let's have a look at the greens party. now they're on 8, which is quite interesting really. and as we talked earlier, a lot of people have been saying there seems to be a conflation with the green party and the pro—palestine lobby, as we've seen in some of

the marches with greta thunberg and people like that, sort of coming on with their so—called green credentials. so there we are, 8, let's speak to political editor tom harwood and get an update from him . so, tom, talk update from him. so, tom, talk to me. give me an update on where we are with everything . where we are with everything. >> yeah, this is really day three of full time campaigning. day four since the election was called on wednesday afternoon and the leaders have been out and the leaders have been out and about, rishi sunak has been to four countries of the united kingdom. all corners of the united kingdom. but he's made some errors in his journeys. he ended up speaking from titanic quarter in belfast yesterday. now insert your own metaphor for the campaign. there also, of course, the launch when it was pounng course, the launch when it was pouring with rain. i have to tell you, standing in downing street as i was alongside our political editor , christopher political editor, christopher hope, for that speech, it was cold. it was sodden, it was not a good image and you could hear

things can only get better being blasted through the street by a permanent protester named steve bray. but here's the issue that people are talking about today. 788 conservative mps elected in 2019 deciding they will not contest at this election in six weeks time. they are standing down before their constituents have a chance to boot them out. thatis have a chance to boot them out. that is the biggest topic of conversation today and many people are asking, are they jumping before they have been pushed? although clearly some of these individuals represent pretty safe seats for the conservative party so even if they cling on, even if those seats stay blue, they'll be different faces in parliament, in just six weeks time, it'll be a pretty profound changing of the guards. for their part, the labour party is talking about the cost of living today, although they seem to have been slightly upended by questions over a commitment that keir starmer has articulated today to lower the voting age to 16. all

the while, labour is backing bills to stop under 18 seconds, vaping to reduce smoking for people who are younger as well. and, lots of other inconsistencies, big questions over what labour considers to be a child or otherwise. but also, of course, the lib dems have been out and about and the snp launched their campaign earlier in the week as well. it's all go for a general election that is rapidly approaching . rapidly approaching. >> tom harwood is there in our studio in westminster. thank you so much. well, so that's what's happening. what do you think though ? what are your thoughts? though? what are your thoughts? gbnews.com/yoursay joining me now from kent is gb news voice, neil shani louk . neil. neil, neil shani louk. neil. neil, what do you think about this then? you've heard all of that. our own people's poll suggests that 47% of the people would support labour, and that those are our views. support labour, and that those are our views . and where do you

are our views. and where do you stand on what you've seen with all this electioneering ? all this electioneering? >> when i run a charity down in kent and i try to steer well clear of politics myself, i find that voters are saying to me, andy burnham help me so i'll just get on and do the work myself and not worry about who's in power. >> to be honest, i think the young people letting the young people think it's probably a good idea. you know, they've got a kind of a clean mind on it. i've seen 53 years of people making mistakes in government, so i think a fresh start, give the youngsters a chance is going to be their future is a good idea. >> interesting. thank you very much neil. that's neil shani louk. he's our voice. that's what he thinks right. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and columnist josie cundy. and also former labour party adviser matthew laza. good afternoon. good afternoon matthew laza. we saw your your lovely keir starmer doing his thing. he looked like he'd been slightly caught unawares when he discovered that there was an election going on. well, at least it didn't get wet, i mean, you know, rishi sunak tells us the man, he's the man with a plan. we'll come off it. he isn't even the man with an

umbrella. >> i mean, i mean, i think to be fair, even independent observers would say that, the tories haven't had a very good few days because, of course, yesterday. >> where did rishi sunak turn up ? >> 7 >> outside the home of the titanic? in the titanic. >> why did he do that? >> why did he do that? >> i know, i mean, you want to be shooting your advisers. i think that, you know, i'm not sure i did everything perfectly when i was a political adviser, but i didn't do that. >> and then when he got on the plane, either there or back, he was pictured right in front of the exit sign. >> and i cannot tell you the. i used to work very closely with neil kinnock's daughter, who was running the event side, and i was running the broadcast side in the 2015 labour campaign, and we spent our lives trying to avoid exit signs. every shot. i shouldn't have the exit sign in it, begging venues if they put a blanket over the exit sign. so the photographers, because that's what the photographers are always looking for. so the tories have had a bad few days. i think labour's had a kind of solid start. i thought keir looked good on on wednesday when the announcement was. i think we're not yet into the meat of the campaign for many of them. >> lizzie cundy oh the tories, it's like the rats are leaving the sinking ship. >> very true, isn't it? >> very true, isn't it? >> and , rishi actually looked >> and, rishi actually looked like a drowned rat himself, didn't he? and i just can't

believe that image of him as he walked away , drenched through walked away, drenched through surprise. his prada suit hadn't shrunk like his own party is shrinking, with 78 leaving, look, you know why he did this is the fear of farage. he was genuinely worried about nigel. >> and that is why he's rushed it, and i just think, you know, they they there was that music . they they there was that music. >> i mean, i shouldn't laugh with. things can only get better. but rishi knew things could only get worse. >> do you think it's now at number six? do you think. do you think that that is the truth? because actually some people might say he's played a blinder. first of all, he's blindsided everybody. nobody was expecting hitting his own side. secondly. well you know, a lot of them have been in power for a long time. so if you've been in power for 14 years, you've been held in this office for so long, some of them longer, even though they were conservatives, weren't in power at that point , they may power at that point, they may still have held their seats. so some of them have been in there for, what was it, 20 years or however long. so there's a lot of them want to leave. and i think you might want to do that. but let's be honest here, he has

wrong footed. in my view. he's wrong. wrong footed reform because reform needs to form. they haven't got have they got there? i think they haven't had nigel actually said you know, he was totally shocked. >> hadn't got enough time for his campaign or constituency . his campaign or constituency. you know we've got under six weeks. nigel didn't , couldn't do weeks. nigel didn't, couldn't do it. he wanted to do it, but he just wasn't possible . just wasn't possible. >> exactly. so but he's going to spread himself all over. he's going everywhere. >> he'll be campaigning. >> he'll be campaigning. >> you know what nigel's like? >> you know what nigel's like? >> he's going to fight for this. and he's livid with how the tories have treated him, what they've done to brexit and everything else. >> and let me tell you, they're their own worst enemy. >> i'm afraid the tories. but there we have. >> you're saying keir starmer. >> you're saying keir starmer. >> i mean, how many union jacks are we going to see him. >> are there a lot? >> are there a lot? >> should we take a look at some of that. let's have a look at rishi sunak at the beginning when he did of his speech, where he sort of got drenched at the start. take a look, take a listen. >> earlier today , i spoke with >> earlier today, i spoke with his majesty the king to request the dissolution of parliament. >> the king has granted this request, and we will have a

general election on the 4th of july. >> yeah. so there he was. there now, this is the rally that he spoke at a little while later , spoke at a little while later, on the 5th of july, i the keir starmer i will be prime minister, and he has shown time and time again that he will take the easy way out and do anything to get power. >> if he was happy to abandon all the promises that he made to become labour leader once he got the job, how can you know that he wouldn't do exactly the same thing if he were to become prime minister? we conservatives have got a clear plan with bold action to secure our future. so let's take that message and that vision of a secure future to every corner of our united kingdom. and let's show labour that the british people will never be taken for granted. >> british people will never be taken for granted . yep, yep. taken for granted. yep, yep. >> i thought he certainly was a much better speech the second one than the first one. i mean, the truth of the matter is people, a lot of people zone out of politics, but they're not

zoning out of the rain incident. it keeps giving. there are so many memes on social media, people who've never thought about politics in their lives, and thinking about that. it will go down in history as one of the worst moments of political communication. but obviously he's recovered from that. >> i'm not surprised you said he's wrongfooted nigel farage, which he did, but he looks surprised himself about the election. it was so unorganised. >> it was shambolic. it was a mess. look, he even went to wales and asked how they can. >> yes, that was wales aren't in the euro. >> it was one mistake after the other. >> things can only get better. as lizzie says , for the sooner as lizzie says, for the sooner get better. >> you said it was. you thought it was a bad speech. what about keir starmer, though? he was somewhat lacklustre, don't you think? have a listen. >> most importantly of all, we do all this with a new spirit of service country. first part second, a rejection of the gesture politics you will see in this campaign. i have no doubt from the tories and the snp . i'm from the tories and the snp. i'm well aware of the cynicism people hold towards politicians

at the moment, but i came into politics late having served our country as leader of the crown prosecution service, and i helped the police service in northern ireland to gain the consent of all communities. service of our country is the reason, and the only reason why i am standing here now asking for your vote. >> so there he is asking for one's vote. i mean, look, come on, it was dull as dishwater. >> he would say himself. >> he would say himself. >> look, he talks about politics. boring. and there were two union jacks either side of him. >> it's on our membership card now. we're we're a very patriotic party. >> he's the master of the gesture. >> well, look, he would say himself that he's not a bomber. he's not, you know, he's not the he's he's not the world's sort of most exciting speaker. but he does do is he is ready for government . he showed there that government. he showed there that he's a prime minister in waiting and he's brilliant on detail, which is, you know, frankly, what we need after the last few

years of chaos, i think he's quite vague on detail. >> i think he's more vague than boris. >> and i don't know if you know, that's quite. >> and if you've read boris article, i don't know whether you've read it in the daily mail. >> what he says of starmer i totally agree. >> i think he's one of the most frightening leaders we've ever had. >> and i'll tell you why. >> and i'll tell you why. >> and i'll tell you why. >> and you know what i'm going to say? >> because he doesn't know what a woman is, which he's very clear now what a woman is. >> he has no meat on the bones. he gives no detail. >> i was asking people yesterday what they think of labour. you know, no one knows what they stand for, matthew. >> well, and he's all oppositions have got all oppositions have got all oppositions have got all oppositions have used election campaigns because they get more attention . attention. >> might set their stall out. >> might set their stall out. >> mainwaring in dad's army, you know, because he can't make a decision and we're all going to be doomed . be doomed. >> i'm trying to work out how rishi would be. >> let's see. what have you are saying? because what do you think? are we doomed? are we? this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua , coming up, his royal akua, coming up, his royal roundup time. angela levin will be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls, lots of things on the menu. then

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vote. good afternoon. 23 minutes after 4:00, this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua, and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour . great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking, was rishi right to call a general election? now now, of course, this week the prime minister, rishi sunak, surprised us all when he told us voters will go to the polls on the 4th of july, american independence day. but his party is losing some very big names, which include communities minister michael gove and others like angela andrea leadsom . so like angela andrea leadsom. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, was rishi right to call an election now? well, i'm joined by broadcaster emma wolf and also former labour

mp denis macshane . all right. mp denis macshane. all right. i'm going to start with you, denis macshane. what was he right to do this so quickly? i mean, 4th of july, i genuinely think not. >> just look at the few days already it's been pretty much disastrous for him. >> i'm not going to repeat all the stuff , all the gaffes in the stuff, all the gaffes in scotland, wales, everywhere . scotland, wales, everywhere. it's all the tories now are like rats. si king the famous , rats. si king the famous, sinking, leaving the sinking ship for john redwood. sinking, leaving the sinking ship forjohn redwood. you ship for john redwood. you didn't mention him and michael gove and angela leadsom, theresa may. i mean, all the architects of brexit, they've just left the. they say so as he went to the. they say so as he went to the titanic exhibition, they left the cabin. boy on the titanic. and he's really struggling to be fair to those ones, though, they have been with with the conservative party and held office for some time. >> so, you know, if you've done what, 16 or 20 years or something, after a while, you might want to naturally go, okay, all right, i accept, i accept that i fully i do, i accept that i fully i do, i

accept that, but there's the morale in the tory party. >> we can just see it because when people leave a sinking ship, that's about morale. now reform's got its tail up. the reform party. labour just can't reform party. labourjust can't believe how lucky it is . the believe how lucky it is. the greens are out there. i don't know if the lib dems are still alive anywhere in the country, but i wish them well and so i myself, the scots are going bonkers because he's telling them all to cancel their holidays and stay at home to vote. because he's having it in the scottish holiday season. i just think myself that it's a poor call, but i'm not sure he's made many good ones in his, year or so as prime minister. >> all right, well, let's go to emma woolf. was he right to call a general election now ? a general election now? >> nana. who can know whether he was right, whether he was in a total blind panic, whether he woke up and thought maybe the good economic news that he had was better than it was that, you know, you get that false sense of optimism . it was all going to of optimism. it was all going to be okay. >> it wasn't going to rain on whenever it was monday, i don't

know. >> did he want his summer back? he just wanted to get it over and done with. maybe he's just sick of the whole thing. maybe he wants to get out to the west coast, get that great job, get the kids into school for september. maybe, you know , september. maybe, you know, maybe he prefers campaigning in the summer to the november rain . the summer to the november rain. i don't know. but one thing's for sure, though nana, i don't think labour and reform. in fact, i know for a fact from a labour mp and someone quite high up at reform, they were not expecting this and they were not ready . in expecting this and they were not ready. in fact, expecting this and they were not ready . in fact, someone at ready. in fact, someone at reform said to me, this came as a huge shock. so they were not ready. you saw that in keir starmers speech. he looked like a startled rabbit in the in the headlights. yeah, he really did. but one thing's for sure rishi could not have planned more disasters , could he? i mean, disasters, could he? i mean, even if they had sat down and planned out how the first three days could have been total calamity jane, it's gone even worse than that. >> but that's. but he might argue that actually the fact

that he's wrong footed all of his opponents because that is the art. if you want to minimise the art. if you want to minimise the damage or maybe attempt to win if you wrong foot people in most things in sport or whatever , then you will usually have a better chance of doing better . better chance of doing better. and it's like the element of surprise. surely that would work for him. denis macshane i mean, everyone seems to be surprised, including perhaps even rishi. >> well look dad, look at the way we're all enjoyed this conversation. if it was an idea to wrongfoot anybody, he's wrong footed himself . i'm trying to footed himself. i'm trying to now try to strip my own feet up, and that's what he's done, look, i feel sorry for the guy . and that's what he's done, look, i feel sorry for the guy. he's got so little experience, he doesn't understand england. he thinks that wales will be playing in the euros , he just is playing in the euros, he just is out of touch , he's lived in out of touch, he's lived in california most of his adult working life . i'm sure he's a working life. i'm sure he's a very nice father and a nice husband. a good man. i'm not criticising him, but what was he

doing? britain is a hell of a difficult country to run. as winston churchill asked margaret thatcher asked tony blair asked david cameron. he just wasn't , david cameron. he just wasn't, you know, on the park, i love it, you say, you know, i'm not going to criticise the bloke, but what was he doing ? but what was he doing? >> and then you explain how inexperienced he is. listen, i, i would agree with inexperienced do you think, emma, that perhaps what has happened here to the conservative party and there's no doubt about it, they have literally collapsed. there's no i'm not being partisan . i don't i'm not being partisan. i don't support any of them. do you think that perhaps the issue with getting rid of boris was the wrong thing to do ? the wrong thing to do? >> no, i don't think we can go back to the boris days . >> no, i don't think we can go back to the boris days. i don't think boris is going to be back, and i don't think he'd be the solution right now . solution right now. >> no no no no no no. but not not whether he's a solution. but do you think that they were wrong to get rid of him? because had they done that, do you think they'd be in freefall in the way they'd be in freefall in the way they are ? they are? >> i think the party is so divided. there are so many factions. i mean, we had the six families we had. we have more factions than you can shake a

stick at. i think the almost at the stage where they need to be, you know, almost a decade out of power. i mean, it grieves me to say that because i don't particularly want labour to be in power, but i think the tories are so divided at the moment. i'm not sure whether boris is the answer . a lot of people are the answer. a lot of people are against boris as well. he didn't have a lot of friends within the party. but i mean, look, tory mps are voting with their feet nearly 80, i think at the last reckoning . god knows. check our reckoning. god knows. check our phones probably more by now. but at the last reckoning it's about 80. they're voting with their feet and i think the voters are going to do the same. >> sadly, that's no no no no no no yes is ever available for a labour party party political broadcast which she's great. >> we need her on on the screen rooting against the tories as well, do you think. >> i don't think, i don't think she was. i don't think she was saying anything against anyone. >> i'm very carefully not wearing red or blue at the moment. but i mean, you know, really or turquoise or purple, but frankly , you know, i think i

but frankly, you know, i think i think actually this is a turning point . i think actually this is a turning point. i think british think actually this is a turning point . i think british politics point. i think british politics is in an almighty mess. and that's the truth of it. >> would you think so, dennis? you think we're in a mess? >> absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. i mean, obviously, i want my team to win, but we have to repair the country. we have to repair the country. we have to renew the country. we have to reform the country. labour's been away with so many weird dead ends in the last few years. i think keir starmer was straight, honest. he's in experience. i think he does one thing at a time. so in that sense i prove him as pm, but my goodness, the country is divided , it's demoralised, it's upset, it's uncertain . putting it's uncertain. putting ourselves out of that's going to be one heck of a task. well you know, i don't think you can blame the conservative party for all of that. >> the labour party backed a lot of the things that they did as well, i think politics overall is a mess, and i agree with them completely. and, and sadly, i have to say i slightly agree with denis macshane. thank you

very much. emma woolf and denis macshane really good to talk to you both. thank so what do you think coming up to 31 minutes after 4:00? this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we will continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, was rishi right to call asking, was rishi right to call a general election? now you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, lizzie cundy and matthew lazo. still to come. my difficult conversation model sasha bailey will be here to tell us how about how he changed his mind about how he changed his mind about gender reassignment? but first, let's get your latest news headlines . news headlines. >> 31 minutes past for our top stories this hour, a single occupant aircraft has crashed into a field near coningsby in lincolnshire. police and emergency services rushed to the scene just before 120 this afternoon. there are multiple reports that the plane involved is a spitfire, which was taking part in a battle of britain memorial event. road closures are in place and motorists are being urged to avoid the area.

now. sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to 16. speaking to reporters , the 16. speaking to reporters, the labour leader said if you can work and pay tax then you ought to be able to vote. comes as both major parties pitch their messages to voters on the first weekend of the election campaign , with the government focusing on the economy . lib dem leader on the economy. lib dem leader sir ed davey says his party is ready to see a new parliament in place. he was speaking after the number of tory mps stepping down reached 78. that's a post—war record and it also surpasses the previous high prior to tony blair's victory in 1997 and congestion in dover has eased slightly, though drivers are still facing waits of up to 90 minutes, an estimated 20 million cars hit the roads for the bank houday cars hit the roads for the bank holiday weekend. the port says there are also delays at the french border, and they're working closely with authorities across the channel to clear

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i'm very sweet. i don't bite, not without a good reason. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, was the rishi sunak right to call an election now? of course, this week he surprised us all when he told us voters that they will be going to the polls on the 4th of july, but his party's losing some big names, including communities minister michael gove, andrea leadsom, john redwood. they're all leaving, mind you, some of them have been there for a while . so for the there for a while. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, was he right to call that election? well, joining me now is lizzie cundy and also matthew lazor. lizzie cundy, i'm coming to you first. no he i can't understand his logic. >> he had six more months at least in power. >> and the whole start of this has been a shambolic, just appalling farce, from, from when he did, i mean, when he launched, i just can't get it out of my head and being soaked in the rain, that blaring music, it's just gone from bad to w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> it was when he turned his

back. >> but when he turned the back, you've got the image of him pounng you've got the image of him pouring down. i don't know what hair gel he uses because he's hell no, he didn't move. >> to be fair, he's just a lot of product, doesn't he? >> the hair was rainproof, that's for sure. >> but what was he thinking? it was all disorganised. now he's had the pictures of the exit sign asking wales about how they're doing in the euros. it's gone from bad to worse . gone from bad to worse. >> well then, surely after that logic, he was wise to call it now because it was only going to get worse, wasn't it? i mean, that song in the background, things are. >> i know you couldn't, you couldn't. >> you couldn't make it up. >> you couldn't make it up. >> i mean, you literally, if you were scripting a comedy, you wouldn't have the kind of panoply of disasters over the last few days. it would just seem too far fetched. i think i'm glad he has called the election, because i think the british people want their say. they want to put it out of their misery, that the tories, they want to stop fighting amongst themselves politically. if you were kind of looking at it strategically, i think it's daft . there are various things. he's having it in the middle of the euros, in the middle of wimbledon, the university students are back at home, which means they're they're ready to vote against the tories because young people at the moment, all the polls show a pretty

anti—tory, in the back in their home constituencies, which are more likely to be marginals . more likely to be marginals. they, and in scotland, which has gone down really badly in scotland, it's the schools have already broken up and the kind of tradition in politics is you don't have elections in school holidays because obviously a lot of people have already booked but booked their holidays. so as you said earlier, nana, i think the only possible advantage is he thinks he's blindsided everybody and he's going to run a presidential campaign. >> he doesn't listen and you know, everyone says rishi doesn't listen to advice. he did this . it was doesn't listen to advice. he did this. it was like a doesn't listen to advice. he did this . it was like a shock this. it was like a shock reaction, not organised. he didn't even tell the cabinet. in a panic, he looked in a panic. >> hold on. i mean, first of all, that's the assumption that the labour party are going to do better that way. you're speaking, they may do worse. >> i think the polls will tighten. >> certainly they may do worse. but secondly, look, he's called it now , okay. by the 5th of it now, okay. by the 5th of july, it's going to be sunny. ideally there'll be lots of boats coming. yes. keir starmer can put to practice his border control or whatever it is, he said. and then keir starmer will be dealing with the small boats crisis. absolutely i don't think that that's a stupid idea for him to do that. he's done that

now let's see what keir starmer keir starmer's come out with his border control bill. >> you're correct. >> you're correct. >> because that's one of the reasons why she did this. because he knows when that, you know, warmer weather comes. they're going to be even more boats coming over. now. this is going to be starmer's problem and i absolutely you matthew. how is he going to deal with it? because no , i could do the five because no, i could do the five point plan. >> i can do the five point stop the boats plan. i mean, i think you've got a six point plan. this is six points overall. >> matthew, you ask me this, why is starmer backing out of doing this debate? so he's not. >> no no no no i know i spoke to them. i spoke to them yesterday. he's absolutely because i was involved in the debate negotiations in 2015 when david cameron wouldn't do a single debate with ed miliband as leader. he just refused to do any of them. and they're only between opposition parties. what labour said it will do several debates. it's not prepared to do six because they meet every week at prime minister's questions and it just takes up all of the campaign. but it's absolutely he's absolutely prepared to debate him. >> but to me, this is some sort of performance , performative of performance, performative nonsense and actually allows him to evade giving description or detail for his policies. i would

rather he sat down and said, i'm going to do this, i'm going to do that, and i'm going to do that, and this is how i'm going to do it. i would like them all to do it. i would like them all to do it. i would like them all to do that. actually. i want i don't want them to play silly boy, boy girl silly, you know, silly banter between them, which is what i feel these debates become. and who can put an absolutely the big interviews of the campaign. >> i mean already to be fairto >> i mean already to be fair to them all, they've all been out. they've all been out and about. some of them spoken to gb news some, and other channels. so i think we need to see a lot more of that of really of all the parties of the good old art of the political interview. >> i do think, though, the debate is all bands, the debate rishi will win. i think that's his only saving grace. i do think because starmer show his true colours, he's got no personality. i mean watching him in there, you fall millom you've got to have ed davey and john swinney, some of them past, they have been real vote winners. i mean remembering back to nick clegg and true go back to nixon and you know and kennedy kennedy. and that was a real game changer. kennedy. and that was a real game changer . and i think you're game changer. and i think you're absolute nixon was sweating and he didn't have. but i think nana you want a mixture. >> so labour is committed to doing debate. it's committed to doing debate. it's committed to doing big interviews. it's committed to going around the

country. it's not just about let's see if they commit to do something on gb news. >> i'm sure they will. our viewers have said in their people's poll, 47% of them have said that they i you know, i'm sure we'll be seeing a lot of. >> so you might have too much . >> so you might have too much. >> so you might have too much. >> keir on gb news to see keir starmer also coming on to gb news. and because the gb news views are perfectly decent people . people. >> oh, absolutely. >> oh, absolutely. >> and i'm not having him. not. >> and i'm not having him. not. >> come on. no, no. >>— >> come on. no, no. >> why is he not doing that. >> why is he not doing that. >> let me. >> let me. >> well i was just going to say ispeak >> well i was just going to say i speak to leigh harris because this shows nothing without you and your views. >> let's welcome our great british voice. your opportunity to be on the show and tell us what you think about the topics we're discussing. we're going to bristol. >> the map is back. >> the map is back. >> it's back. let's speak to leigh harris. leigh was, was rishi sunak right to call the general election. >> now, i think he was right to call a general election, but i think he's nuts for calling on the 4th of july. the optics of the 4th of july. the optics of the announcement was terrible. as we all know . you know, as we all know. you know, whoever advised him, whoever advised him to call an early election are probably the same idiots who advised him to go and stand outside in the rain without a brolly. i mean, he really was an actual tory wet nana. it looked ridiculous. >> i got what i personally would

have waited. >> i was all in on a november election because it would give the economy more time to improve and interest rates to come down, you know, maybe even send a few flights to rwanda if you believe you will. >> and i'm not sure anyone actually does. >> and i think he did it mainly because he wanted to put reform on the back foot , which it on the back foot, which it clearly has. >> you know, farage has openly admitted it doesn't give him enough time to prepare to run as an mp, which i think will have a significant impact on people who vote for reform or not likely to now, i think. but, you know, now i'm forced to make a decision. >> nana i am really torn . >> nana i am really torn. >> nana i am really torn. >> i am livid with the tories, you know, i'm livid with the tories. >> they do not deserve my vote after what they've done. >> but i, the labour party, utterly terrified me, especially with a stonking majority. the amount of damage they could do in a single term is quite significant. >> you know, slippery starmer is just just confirmed he's going to lower the voting age. >> well yeah. yeah. >> well yeah. yeah. >> 16. >> 16. >> yeah. well he may find that that might not work out for him

because a lot of people might complain about that because that to me feels like a way of securing your position because younger people are more likely to vote for that. and to me, that comes across as a slight. i don't think that's right. i don't think that's right. i don't think that's right. i don't think he should be allowed to do that. that's changing it for the electorate, and he needs to have a referendum. whether he's allowed to do that or not. i don't think that's something he should make a decision on at all. but leigh harris, thank you so much for your thoughts. really good to talk to you. that's leigh harris. >> can i say that leigh looks like keir starmer with his flag. i'm gonna count how many union jacks starmer is going to be standing next to. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> let me tell you my difficult conversations , model sasha conversations, model sasha bailey will be here live to talk about his transition on non—transition. thank goodness. but next, angela levin will be here to give us the latest from behind the

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akua. now. there's always something going on in the royal household, and this week has been no different to the. every saturday. i love to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than royal biographer angela levin? angela, it's been a busy old time for the royals, hasn't been a very busy old time. >> i thought i would start with prince william. he was doing the third of the three garden parties that were going on, and it was pouring with rain for the king charles. it was beautifully sunny. this was pouring with rain, and you think it would be very sad? it's not with his wife. i thought he did a brilliant job because he got all his cousins together. brilliant job because he got all his cousins together . they all his cousins together. they all dressed up absolutely beautifully and they were very keen to be friendly and chatting . they even were chatting round to everyone. it doesn't mean they're going to have an important place within the royal family when he takes over, but it was just very nice and zara, i thought, looked stunningly beautiful with a pink hat, white dress with pink buttons on. she looked absolute lovely and she and beatrice looks damn

absolutely gorgeous. and i thought that these two are very happily married and they're blossoming and they look wonderful. so it was very nice. it was very good. and it saved him from looking to be all alone i >> -- >> oh, -_ >> oh, very good at that, isn't he ? yes. he doesn't, he doesn't. he? yes. he doesn't, he doesn't. >> he hides it. >> he hides it. >> he hides it. >> he hides it really well. and he does his his role nicely. now, what about the awful trolling that catherine's been receiving? yes, that is just some of it is. >> it is terrible. and i have to say that a few of them are from meghan's friends. i'm not. she had anything to do with it. >> you think it's part of the sussex squad, the sussex squad and saying, you know , other and saying, you know, other people go to work when they're having all the tests and looking, you know, having the medication . medication. >> but she's not, you know, so that's what they're saying. >> so these , these trolls, what >> so these, these trolls, what kind of thing are they saying that she's not going to work even though she's 9 million women have , cancer a year, women have, cancer a year, nearly all of them carry on

going to work, but she doesn't . going to work, but she doesn't. but, you know, she's taking advantage of her position . well, advantage of her position. well, he doesn't know how. she she doesn't know what sort of medication she's having. i thought it was so spiteful , thought it was so spiteful, awful. and actually, what was worth seeing this terrible painting in, in tatler that made her, you know, it looked nothing like her. and it was a bit like a sort of spinster headmistress. >> wouldn't that have been a nice. that picture was meant to be a nice picture of her tatler, but it wasn't great, was it? >> i mean, not great. it was absolutely terrible. look nothing like her. >> we've got the picture up on the screen. take a look. i think i could have potentially drawn her better than that. >> yes, but she looks very tight laced. and which. which catherine isn't. and she looks very sort of serious and bossy. well, the face doesn't look like a face. no, no. well, anyone could do a white dress. you know, it just looks, if she had worn one. but that looked very similar, but not much credit for that. similar, but not much credit for that . the whole thing similar, but not much credit for that. the whole thing is capturing the face. and king

charles's captured with the face, his own face with the red painting . it looked just like painting. it looked just like him. you could work out his characteristics , but with. i characteristics, but with. i thought it was very sorry. and i think especially for women when they're having this sort of treatment, that they feel very down about themselves, they feel they don't look right. obviously they're not made up and all that. and, you know, it's not a time when you want to see a picture and think, oh my goodness , is this what? people goodness, is this what? people look nice. that will look nice. >> that's not a great picture. now, what about the elections? because it seems that the king and everything is moving because of it. and we've got a lot of royal engagements and things that happen at this time. >> yes. well, you know, it means that he has to take more time and be at home. he can't go to all the things he wants to do. he's been doing five a day, which is probably made camilla a bit cross, but what they still hopeis bit cross, but what they still hope is that they can get the japanese emperor and empress over. japanese emperor and empress over . that's japanese emperor and empress over. that's in july, japanese emperor and empress over . that's in july, that they over. that's in july, that they can go to france for the 80th

anniversary of the, fighting . anniversary of the, fighting. and he will be able to do 1 or 2 things at ascot. he's very keen to do now , those aren't things to do now, those aren't things that are political in any way. and if people complain about the japan, problem , i think that japan, problem, i think that actually if you have the head of all the, types, you know, the, tories as all of them, then you feel that it's all right. nobody's getting any special treatment. so i think that will be that will be good. i just want to talk about harry and, charles's argument where harry said he didn't want to stay. he wanted to go to a hotel, and it's come out now that actually , it's come out now that actually, he. king charles is believed that he was , put into offered that he was, put into offered saint james's and princess anne's stays there and beatrice stays there. >> and this was for when harry came over for his came over.

>> yeah, exactly. and the policemen are wandering around with guns and there's no chance of actually there being any problem there. so the fact that he said that it wasn't safe for him was not actually, a very sensible thing to say, i don't think. >> well, he went to nigeria and thatis >> well, he went to nigeria and that is in the world ranking. it's ranked as quite a dangerous place. >> yes , one of the dangerous >> yes, one of the dangerous places in the world. so that was again, i thought, being cruel and rejecting something because it's next door to where the king lives. and he could have popped in at any time. it would have been much more easier, much easier for both of them. but they didn't want that. but now they've been. harry and meghan have been invited to go to ghana , and i think, you know, they can't actually go all the way around the commonwealth and pretend that they're running it. and they're much better than prince charles. and king charles and also prince william. i mean, it's just not on. i think there has to be stopped. >> well, it's interesting because my parents are from ghana. i have ghanaian heritage,

and i'm thinking she'll probably then claim that there's a percentage that she's ghanaian as well . i'll percentage that she's ghanaian as well. i'll be like, hang on a minute, you're a maltese. you're all so nigerian now. do you ever say your ghana and german come on, thank you very much. >> squeeze it in. yeah, let's get them all in. >> angela levin, thank you very much. thank you. that's of course, royal biographer angela levin. right. well, if you just joined us. welcome. where have you been? we've got loads still to come. do not go anywhere. my difficult conversation with model sasha bayley, the son of the legendary david bayley, will be live to tell us about how he changed his mind about changing genden changed his mind about changing gender. and don't forget coming up in the next hour, the great british debate this hour i'm asking, should 16 year olds be given the right to . vote? given the right to. vote? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest weather for gb news. over

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woman frumpy at work could count as discrimination, a mini debate is going to be discussing this one. has woke culture gone too far ? but first, let's get your far? but first, let's get your latest news headlines with ray addison. >> it's exactly 5:01. >> it's exactly 5:01. >> our top stories this hour. an raf aircraft believed to be a spitfire has crashed in lincolnshire. the single occupant plane crashed into a field near raf coningsby. no one else was believed to be involved. police and emergency services rushed to the scene just before 120 this afternoon. it's believed that the aircraft was taking part in a battle of britain memorial event. write to other news and sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to 16. both major parties have been pitching their messages to voters on the first weekend of the election campaign, with the government focusing on the economy . focusing on the economy. speaking to reporters, the labour leader said young people deserve to have a say.

>> i want to see 16 and 17 year olds voting. >> they can go out and work. they can serve in our armed forces and of course, if they are out and working, they pay tax and therefore they should have a say over how the money they're paying in is being used. >> so yes , i want to see that >> so yes, i want to see that vote for 16 and 17 year olds if you can work, if you can pay tax, if you can serve in your armed forces, then you ought to be able to vote. >> 78 conservative mps have now stepped down ahead of the summer election, which is a post—war record . it also surpasses the record. it also surpasses the previous high, which took place pnor previous high, which took place prior to tony blair's victory in 1997. it comes as the tories trail in the polls. lib. lib dem leader sir ed davey says his party is ready for a new parliament. >> the liberal democrats have got a fantastic set of policies on the health service, on the economy and the environment. today we're campaigning against the sewage problem and we've led that campaign. i think overall

we're just much more ambitious than some of the other parties . than some of the other parties. and critically, we want to transform british politics. we think the politics in our country is broken. it needs to be changed. and we're the only party talking about that . party talking about that. >> congestion in dover has eased somewhat , though drivers are somewhat, though drivers are still facing waits of up to 90 minutes. an estimated 20 million cars hit the road for the bank houday cars hit the road for the bank holiday weekend , as the port in holiday weekend, as the port in dover says that there are also delays at the french border, and they're working closely with authorities across the channel to clear those queues . the 17 to clear those queues. the 17 year old boy, from lancashire has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman was found dead on a beach in bournemouth last night. dorset police said that they were called to reports of two women stabbed on durley chime chine beach at around 11:45 pm, 34 year old was pronounced dead at the scene, while a 38 year old was taken to hospital with serious injuries.

was taken to hospital with serious injuries . president serious injuries. president putin is reportedly ready to pause his invasion of ukraine with a negotiated ceasefire, which would recognise current battlefield lines, according to sources. the russian president has grown frustrated by what he sees as western attempts to derail possible negotiations. asked about the report during a visit to belarus yesterday, putin said talks should resume and negotiations should be based on, quote, the realities on the ground. ukraine's president zelenskyy has previously said that peace, according to putin's terms, is impossible . well, terms, is impossible. well, despite today's rather sunny skies , thunderstorms and skies, thunderstorms and possibly hail could be on the way later on tonight. a yellow warning has also been issued from midday tomorrow, with heavy showers possible across large parts of england and the north of wales. but the met office expects the wet weather to settle into light. patchy showers in time for the monday bank holiday and one of the most

popular us presidents is getting the hollywood treatment as the actor dennis quaid puts his spin on ronald reagan . on ronald reagan. >> what would you say is the issue of our time? >> no question about it. communism and the soviet union getting the game run for office. >> the first trailer for a new movie about the 40th president just been released. it tells the story of president reagan's life, from confronting childhood bullies to becoming a hollywood star and then taking his seat in the oval office. cast also includes penelope ann miller as first lady nancy reagan and lesley ann down as margaret thatcher. well, for the latest stories , you can sign up to gb stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts. right let's go back to . nana. go back to. nana. >> good afternoon. if you've

just tuned in, where have you been? just coming up to six minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of those big topics hitting the headunes those big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs . and of course it's it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. well joining me today is lizzie cundy and also matthew laza . still to come. my laza. still to come. my difficult conversations today sasha bailey , a former model and sasha bailey, a former model and son of fashion photographer david bailey. he's talking about abandoning his plans to become a transgender woman and what the gender dysphoria is being overdiagnosed then stay tuned for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, should we give 16 year olds the right to vote? so keir starmer thinks that they should. the labour leader confirmed his position earlier today on the campaign trail. a tribunal has also found that calling a woman frumpy at work could count as discrimination . so in my mini

discrimination. so in my mini debate, i'm asking, has woke culture gone way too far? and of course, we'll test my panel on the knowledge with their quickfire quiz. that is all on the way in this hour. send me your views, post your comments, visit gbnews.com. forward slash. you'll . see. so now it's time you'll. see. so now it's time for this week's difficult conversations . now, what happens conversations. now, what happens when a young person changes their mind about undergoing a gender transition ? well, my next gender transition? well, my next guest is a 29 year old man who believed himself to be a transgender woman. now, he had made plans to transition after a single meeting at a gender clinic in japan. the former model and son of the famous fashion photographer david bailey, he said that he's happy to be alive after deciding against gender reassignment. so i'm very pleased to say that i'm joined now in the studio by sasha bailey. sasha bailey, welcome . thank you for having welcome. thank you for having me. really good to talk to you. so you are the son of legendary david bailey? yes. but people would think your life and world

must have been amazing growing up with him as a father. what was it? was that like growing up when you were younger? it was great. >> he's a fantastic father, but i do think there were certain parts of manhood that were left out for me. and as we see that kind of in society, that is something that's growing more and more with young men that there is they may have father figures, they may have fathers around them. but it wasn't exactly the father who would have taken me fishing or done kind of traditional masculine things. we played chess together. we talked about kind of forts and things like that. we watched movies together, but, we didn't fill in a lot of the roles of kind of masculinity. and we see that now with kind of a lot of the men coming out who are taking these talking points and are taking kind of salient talking points that young men need to hear, but are using it for their own benefit and are using it to gain things. >> but people would say that, you know, someone with such a, you know, someone with such a, you know, someone with such a, you know, obviously you would have had advantages your father wouldn't have been short of a few bob. he was, you know, filming famous people, famous models, people like naomi campbell. he's got them all. people used to say that i looked a bit like her. okay. it's lies. i appreciate that, but the people who like me. but people

would say that you must have had, like, such a great life growing up. why would you feel lacking or needing of anything at all? >> i think that that's an illusion. that's that people look on something and they always think the grass is greener. they don't quite understand what the reality of living like that is. i mean, as someone who grew up in that position and then trying to go into the major work force, you are scorned at, you are there is are scorned at, you are there is a certain level of bigotry. famous kids are expected to be complete wrecks or famous . complete wrecks or famous. they're not expected to go and do normal things. when you go into kind of white collar work, you you do find often that you have some form of actual discrimination for doing that. so for me, i've always worked towards building my own thing, making sure that i work independently to make sure that i'm not kind of pigeonholed into that. i spent an extensive amount of time in japan . while i amount of time in japan. while i was there. i built one of the biggest art shows, digital art shows i built, kind of helped build a movement and pioneer in web three. and all of these things are unrelated to my family , but if when every time family, but if when every time i try to work in like a normal space, it became quite difficult because everyone would say, oh,

you're david bailey's son, or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. exactly. i actually my favourite places to work up until doing things for myself was bar work and doing kp work, because there i was, on the same level as everyone else. everyone treated me the same way because it didn't matter where i came from, it didn't matter who i was. everyone was there to achieve the goal and just graft. >> so you. so you must almost think when somebody says, oh, you're the son of david bailey, and they introduce you the way i did and mentioned it, there's a bit that goes, sake woman, as i said in tokyo , i was introduced said in tokyo, i was introduced on multiple national news networks as sasha bailey, founder and ceo of the ba.2 and blockchain exchange . blockchain exchange. >> so for me, casting off that shadow has already happened . so shadow has already happened. so right now being introduced as such is that's fine. well, you're probably pretty proud of him anyway, i should imagine. >> of course . and so what was it >> of course. and so what was it you talked initially about? the fact that there weren't many sort of masculine things that you did. some people might say , you did. some people might say, well, gender dysphoria is not about masculinity. it's about how you feel inside. what do you think it was that led you to then go from feeling that to then go from feeling that to then looking to change your

gender? because that's a big leap, isn't it? yeah. >> well, exactly. i mean, i, i had gender dysphoria and sense dysphoria, i guess, since i was very young, growing up. and it was it came in bounce. so i think i'm a person who was predisposed to this sort of thing. and then the situation i was in, in japan was kind of highly abusive. and towards the end of it, it seems it was almost it was almost something that kind of helped me get out of the situation i was in, not because of the transgenderism . because of the transgenderism. she was actually weirdly fine with that, because i was able to change my way of thinking and get out of a box that i was stuck in, and there's so many people stuck in that kind of abusive mindset, that abusive kind of cage. they put themselves in where they believe that they can't get out of something because of extenuating circumstances. or for instance, like me, because you need to look after that person and you feel like without them you'd be lost. even they'd be sorry. without you, they would be lost . without you, they would be lost. and even though they're abusing you, you want to help them. you want to do everything you can for them . for them. >> so you found yourself in

quite an abusive situation in japan , and you had those japan, and you had those feelings of not being masculine enough. yeah. >> i mean, that was something that was challenged on me all the time. all the time. >> you were feeling that. so, so, so you then thought, well, maybe i should be a woman. >> well, yeah. i mean, it was a way of getting out in a way. maybe subconsciously it was a way of all of those things that were being thrown at me was suddenly, invalid. you know, i didn't have to use the gender knees line. i didn't have to adhere to heteronormative values anymore. so i was able to suddenly fight back in a lot of ways that i wasn't able to. and then, events happened and other circumstances didn't. i fled japan and thankfully came back to england , but it helped me to england, but it helped me again realise how what the situation really was because it was so, so untenable that instead of being able to change my environment, i tried to change myself. >> i see how far did you go then with this? >> so i was, wearing makeup, wearing , nails, wearing. i was wearing, nails, wearing. i was wearing, nails, wearing. i was wearing a body shaping corset underneath my clothes all the

time for about 2 or 3 months so that i don't know what sort of damage that might have done to me. but you're definitely not supposed to be wearing it as much as i was. but yeah, i was on the edge of kind of telling people what my preferred pronouns would have been. however i even when i was going to transition, i was never super sold on the idea that anyone should have to refer to you as anything they don't want to, but yeah, i came came incredibly close. >> so . and but then why did you >> so. and but then why did you not have the surgery? >> i didn't have a well, so i was prescribed hrt. and then when i came back to england , i when i came back to england, i had the time to think about it. and also the slowness of the nhs, ironically, was quite useful in all of that. yeah. and just time to think about it. and also i met someone who kind of did what a lot of psychiatrists say to do, especially whether someone will end up transitioning or not, which is to mirror them back to make sure that they understand what they are saying. so for me, it was talking about, okay, well, i want to take this hrt medicine and then what? and it's like, okay, well then my fat will redistribute, distribute. i'll be more feminine and i'll start

to grow, female anatomy and i'll be infertile. and someone repeated that back to me, just repeated that back to me, just repeated exactly what i said. and then for me, that was kind of a lightning bolt moment. i actually just started laughing. i started laughing because i realised kind of the absurdity of what i was actually saying out loud. and again, it's important to say that this was my decision and it was right for me , for other people. what might me, for other people. what might make them happy or what might be the right decision might be something different. but i do think that my story would definitely speak volumes to anyone under the age of 18 or 19 thinking about doing this is not someone who would be able to understand that sort of stuff. >> so do you think then, that the way people are affirming people's gender pronouns and all of this is dangerous ? of this is dangerous? >> i think that there's a mix. it's important that people are kind because these are people who are going through for whatever reason, some of the biggest turmoil of their lives. some of them may be suicidal as as i was before. some of them may be having some seriously hard times and kindness always

is going to get through to them more. if you run up to people misgender them, that's not going to get through to someone. if we're actually talking about saving lives , we're talking saving lives, we're talking about helping people. it's more useful to talk within the framework which they're going to listen you to. and if you can be right and still talk within that framework, that will get through to someone in a really powerful way. >> no, no. you talked about the fact that you said you felt suicidal and did you attempt to take your life? >> i did, yeah, yeah. and since then, well, everything since then, well, everything since then has been extra, like, it's i came incredibly close , i i came incredibly close, i didn't because i was, it was in a the house had very few places to put something from, so i was in a bath. yeah. no. sorry. too much. yeah >> we don't really talk about the nature of which, but it's more your thinking. >> yeah. my thinking, my thinking that led me there was. because again , the relationship because again, the relationship i was in was so nasty. but i felt obligated to this person because of their personal difficulties. so i felt in that

moment that was the only way out for me . and then, you know, the for me. and then, you know, the real, transitioning stuff started kind of after that. so you could say that me wanting to transition was a way of doing that without doing it, what do you think? how do you think we can help young people who feel that they're in the wrong bodies? that were. i don't like that phrase wrong body because your body is your body. whatever body you had, it belongs to you. that's the one thing that is yours. yeah. so i how do you think we can help young people? >> i would say , mirroring them >> i would say, mirroring them if they're talking about doing it as one is a big part of it. and but also there's a lot of things going on in society which especially for young boys , are especially for young boys, are not great. there's no incentives, before we came on, we briefly mentioned , 80s we briefly mentioned, 80s movies. and if you look back at the 80s, there's so many male role models, and they weren't just doing films, they weren't just doing films, they weren't just being action heroes. you know, mr t did all of those kind of, after school specials and these, these kind of older men who could be, role models were going around doing stuff and

they were allowed to be men and they were allowed to be men and they were allowed to be men and they were celebrated for it, whereas now we have this problem whereas now we have this problem where we're pushing anyone with that sort of pro men's view is being pushed away to the point where we end up with people like andrew tate taking control of conversation. yeah, yeah. >> and when you're there, then, you know, he sounds like he's making a lot of sense, but he makes sense in what he's saying. but his solutions don't make any sense at all. >> the solutions is give me money. exactly. yeah. it is . money. exactly. yeah. it is. yeah. it's i don't think you're going to get much from giving a man. you're not going to get rich giving a man money. that's how he makes his money. yeah, he's gone. >> he's gone quite quiet now. i think he's been still still under arrest or whatever has happened to him, so what are you up to now? because i know you're a ceo and you've been doing lots of things. >> i'm actually working on a book, about the subjects and about kind of my thoughts on on this whole kind of topic. so, now that's kind of the next stage for me is writing a book. >> when do you hope to have that ready? sunday people. >> well, i would hope. i don't want to say for sure. it takes a long time, but i would hope within the next eight months to

a year. but we'll see what the publisher thinks. that might be too soon. >> well, listen, it will be. i know for sure that it'll be a fascinating read. it's really good to talk to you. and thank you so much for coming in. a lot of people will be listening to what you've said, and i hope that that's helped quite a few people. i hope so too. sasha bayley, thank you very much. incredible of course, that was difficult conversations. and if you've been affected by any topics discussed, you can find help to the samaritans on 116123. that's 116123. and also through their website, samaritans .org. well, if you just join me, it's just coming up to 19 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come by mini debates after an employment tribunal found calling a woman frumpy was discrimination . then i'll be discrimination. then i'll be asking, has woke culture gone too far? but next it's time for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, should 16 year olds be given the right to

vote? good afternoon. it's just coming up to 22 minutes after 5:00. this is a gb news. where live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . don't forget as i'm nana akua. don't forget as well, you can stream the show live on youtube. but it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should 16 year olds be given the right to vote now ? sir keir right to vote now? sir keir starmer today he confirmed his plans to lower the voting age to include 16 and 17 year olds. now here is the argument that he set out earlier, speaking to reporters on the campaign trail in the west midlands. >> i want to see 16 and 17 year olds voting. they can go out and work. they can serve in our armed forces. and of course, if they are out and working, they pay they are out and working, they pay tax and therefore they should have a say over how the money they're paying in is being used. so yes, i want to see that vote for 16 and 17 year olds. if you can work, you can pay tax, you can work, you can pay tax, you can work, you can pay tax, you can serve in your armed

forces. >> then you ought to be able to vote. well, he potentially would say that, wouldn't he? so for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should 16 year olds be given the right to vote? well, i'm joined now by political commentator stephen carlton—woods , former member of carlton—woods, former member of the youth parliament, zara khan, political commentator alex petropolis and political commentator anna mcgovern. well, i can start with you, anna mcgovern . do you think that 16, mcgovern. do you think that 16, 17 year olds should be given the right to vote? >> i don't believe so because 16 and 17 year olds, they are children and i don't think that we should be letting children be involved in in actually voting involved in in actually voting in the general election. >> i think as well, what i do believe is we should absolutely believe is we should absolutely be bringing political education into schools, educate young people in the voting systems, in getting engaged into politics. >> but young people, they still have to be in education up until the age of 18. >> and i think let's like i think actually involving them in the general election, i think is

too soon. leave it at 18 when they are adults and are politically informed to do that. >> why do you think alex, he is doing this then? because surely as anna says, young people don't really. at 16, 17 i didn't have a clue what was going on, to be honest. even now i'm struggling to work out what these parties are doing. but alex, what do you think, why do you think that this is the right thing to be doing ? doing? >> i do think this is the right thing to be doing. i'm not necessarily going to push back on the fact that when people are 16 and 17, they know less. but i think the first way, the best way to get people involved in the political system, to get people engaged, is to actually give them something to do with it, give them a vote. if you give people a vote, they will suddenly say, well, i've got this. i've got this amazing privilege . now i'm going to privilege. now i'm going to actually do research and figure out what to do with it. and i think the argument that young voters are uninformed doesn't really go that far because, to be honest, voters across the age groups across the uk don't engage with politics that much at all. and so we don't take

away their votes because they aren't they don't research enough about the labour party manifesto. they haven't watched enough news this year. we still give them . and if you're going give them. and if you're going to engage with our society, you should be able to have a say in it. >> well, yeah, but what do you know? let's be honest, by that age you've probably not had any children. not that you would have at 18, but you've never really most young people at that age of majority haven't been paying age of majority haven't been paying bills, so don't really understand the real currency of currency, because when you're doing that, like my daughter, she's 15, i doing that, like my daughter, she's15, i would hate to doing that, like my daughter, she's 15, i would hate to see her having the power to vote at the age of 16. i go off and buy a stuff and she just expects me to just carry on providing more and more. she doesn't get it. so what do you think, stephen? am i on the wrong track here? >> no. >> no. >> well, i'm a little bit older than the rest of the guests here. how old are you? >> how old are you, stephen? how old are you? how old am i? >> i'm coming up to 60 in october. >> oh, you're looking good on it. you're looking good. all right, carry on. you are the oldest. >> yes, i do, i do remember when i was a youngster and i was, i was all for youngsters having a

vote. but i've been involved in politics for a long time now, and i've seen young people engaging in politics and also, we take on students at a radio station that i'm involved with as well. so i've seen a lot come through the system over the years. so i agree with some of the comments i've heard , and i the comments i've heard, and i do think we should be engaging young people in politics, but i don't think it's right to have them voting at 16, the law was changed, last year for marriage. so you can't get married before 18. now so there's a reason behind that, and i would even go as far to say that they should put the voting age back to 21. yeah. >> you say, do you think, stephen, that perhaps he should if he wants to do something like that, which some could argue he's actually almost sort of. well, in a way, half interfering with the vote, because at the end of the day, we know that a lot of young people are more likely to be left leaning. do you think something like that should be via referendum if he really wants to do something like that? >> well, i don't think so. i don't think you should change anything now. we've the people have been given the vote. i

don't think you should take it away from them, and i think really it's wise to leave it as it is. we've had a study done actually, in recent months about this , and it came across quite this, and it came across quite strongly, really. the appetite and the, for the country was to leave it as it is. don't mess with something that's not broken. >> zara khan, you're a former member of the youth parliament, so you'll probably be very up on this. what do you think, zara , i this. what do you think, zara, i think that politicians just need to be brave, be bold. >> take the decision to lower the voting age to 16. the best time is to do it now so that we can move forward as a society. when i debated this topic in the house of commons with other youth mps , i saw that it's youth mps, i saw that it's really essential to lower the voting age because we're we were already deeply involved in society . vie, if we can work society. vie, if we can work part time jobs, if we can pay taxes, if we can serve in the army, then why can't we have a say in what happens in our future? we need to have a voice in electing the leaders who can

make decisions that impact our future, and when i was a youth mp at the age of 16, i met with my local mp and i saw that he took the time to meet with me to listen to my ideas. so it showed that if politicians can take, the time to engage with young people and the community, then this is a step forward, in, in showing that young people , young showing that young people, young people's voices should be heard. >> yeah, but but but sorry , >> yeah, but but but sorry, you're the exception rather than the rule. let's be honest here, because most young people aren't as informed as you. but not only that, i worry that they'll use tiktok or other social media to manipulate the vote. and there'll be so many of them as well. that to me, anna mcgovern sounds more like it because my daughter at a 15, almost 16 year old will be doing just that. doing this , doing these tiktok doing this, doing these tiktok dance, this, this, this, that and the other. and then, you know, telling all her friends and then they're all doing it. what do you think, anna? am i wrong? >> no you're not. and i was also a member of uk youth parliament and formally when i was 17. so i was probably the exception to other young people my age where

i was politically active and getting involved, trying to learn about the political systems around me. but i was very different when i was 16 and 17 to what i am now like for example, i supported the liberal democrats when i was that age , democrats when i was that age, and i definitely say i do not have the same values as i did when i was that age. i think for young people, there are so many ways that you can get involved and get your voice heard and ways that you can influence policies. for example, like the uk youth parliament i thought was a fantastic way to get young people's voices heard . however, people's voices heard. however, most young people aren't involved in politics. they don't understand the political systems around them that is partly because it is not educated like young people are not educated about this in schools, which i think is important. get young people involved . but i think people involved. but i think leave it to adults. at 18, you are an adult and you should have the right to vote by then. but i think giving children the right to vote, i think it's too soon. >> all right. well, listen , i >> all right. well, listen, i will leave it there. anna mcgovern, thank you very much. but what i'm going to say is i'm

going to ask you all a yes or no.then going to ask you all a yes or no. then i'm going to start with you, anna mcgovern. should young people then be given the right to vote? yes or no? 16. no. >>— to vote? yes or no? 16. no. >> yeah. at 18 you should be given the right to vote, but not 16 or 17. >> stephen carlton woods. no, no. alex petropolis . no. alex petropolis. >> yes. they've done it in greece. they've done it in other countries. and those countries are operating fine. they're electing centre right governments as well. so it's not like it's a labour ploy. >> and sadiq khan yes or no? yes or no? >> absolutely yes. scotland and wales have lowered the voting age. >> just yes or no. just yes or no. they cheated. i did pull them all up on it. so i have to do it with you as well. sorry thank you very much. zara khan. also anna mcgovern, alex petropolis and also stephen carlton—woods. thank you for your thoughts . so what do you your thoughts. so what do you think at home as you listen to that? do you think that young people should be given the vote from 16 to 17? i think if a politician is making such a change to the voting structure, i would actually say that's something that should be a referendum for the public to decide whether, in fact, he should even be doing that. but

what do you think? gb news gbnews.com forward slash you'll say, you're with me. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should 16 year olds be given the right to vote? you will hear the thoughts of my panel you will hear the thoughts of my panel. former labour adviser matthew laza, also broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. but first, let's get your latest news with ray addison. >> thanks. now, at 531, an raf aircraft believed to be a spitfire has crashed in lincolnshire . the single lincolnshire. the single occupant plane crashed into a field near raf coningsby. no one else was believed to be involved . police and emergency services rushed to the scene just before 120 this afternoon. it's thought that the aircraft was taking part in a battle of britain memorial event. part in a battle of britain memorial event . sir keir starmer memorial event. sir keir starmer says the voting age should be lowered to 16. speaking to reporters, the labour leader said if you can work and pay tax then you ought to be able to vote. comes as both major

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vote? good afternoon. it's just coming up to 37 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should 16 year olds and above be given the right to vote at 16 and 17 year olds? so keir starmer confirmed today that his plan he plans to lower the voting age to include 16 and 17 year olds. here is his argument.

this is what he set out earlier to reporters on the campaign trail in the west midlands. >> i want to see 16 and 17 year olds voting. they can go out and work. they can serve in our armed forces. and of course, if they are out and working, armed forces. and of course, if they are out and working , they they are out and working, they pay they are out and working, they pay tax and therefore they should have a say over how the money they're paying in is being used . so yes, i want to see that used. so yes, i want to see that vote for 16 and 17 year olds. if you can work, you can pay tax. if you can serve in your armed forces, then you ought to be able to vote. >> i wonder if that means that if you don't work and you don't pay if you don't work and you don't pay tax, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. if we follow that logic through. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking , should 16 year olds i'm asking, should 16 year olds be given the right to vote? well, let's see what my panel maker that i'm joined by, former labour party adviser matthew laza and also broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy the other way around. but it's fine, i just, i did what i was going to say. >> i went first for a check. >> i went first for a check. >> no, you thought, oh my god, i have hair. i thought, yes, i do. later, later matthew laza let's

start with you because you are a labour man as i am. >> and yeah . >> and yeah. >> and yeah. >> and yeah. >> and this great leader that suggesting that. >> yeah. well, it's actually been a labour policy for a while. it was a labour policy all the way back in 2015 as well. and i think it's a very, very good idea. and because what is, what the evidence shows from where it's been done, and this is absolutely crucial , is it is absolutely crucial, is it gives young people the voting habit. we don't mind who they vote for, but we as they go out. but we all want people to be involved in their democracy. so all the evidence shows that if you if you give people votes at 16, they get the voting habit. in the scottish referendum , 75% in the scottish referendum, 75% of which when people were given votes at 16 people between 16 and 18, 75% of them voted. but the next group , the 1824 year the next group, the 1824 year olds, 54% voted. and a lot of this is because, because living at home, they go with their parents, because they know that younger people are more likely to be left wing. well they weren't they weren't, they weren't. i mean, i remember i'm old enough to remember during the, you know, during the iraq war when young people began to hate the labour party and all flocked to the lib dems, then

this is now and but you, but you but it's actually the right thing to do. and look at the list of countries that have done it. austria has done it. brazil has done it. and then closer to home, the isle of man, jersey and guernsey have done it. >> yeah, but but that should be done! >> yeah, but but that should be done i think by referendum. i am shocked and horrified that 16 year olds could be given the vote. >> i totally am. >> i totally am. >> and matthew, this is why people are in the political wilderness, because we have to listen to this clown saying things that i think i will call him that because this is another, you know, look at me. >> the progressive thinking party, actually, what six year old has life? you know, skills and know how he should vote or she should vote. i just think they they they suddenly get it at 18. they, they haven't got the, the, the whole of their life skills experience. they haven't got it . but if you life skills experience. they haven't got it. but if you and if you, you know, i'm sorry most 16 year olds i know wouldn't want this vote. wouldn't want that responsibility. what are they going to? their mums will have to drive them to the ballot box and, you know, pack them up,

pack lunch on the way. it doesn't make sense. >> it does make sense . it is >> it does make sense. it is because it gives those the young. >> because it gives because the younger will vote. >> because it gives people, it gives people the habit. and that's the crucial thing. 97% of those who voted, who were between 16 and 17 in scotland, have said that they would vote again . so it's all about giving again. so it's all about giving young people the vote. and yes, we ask people to die for our country. we ask people to pay taxes, no taxation without representation. i think that's the american revolution. said, how about in some? >> i think it's australia where you have to vote. yes. >> so i'm in favour of that. >> so i'm in favour of that. >> perhaps instead of doing that you should be almost laws that you should be almost laws that you have to vote. even if you spoil your ballot, you should have to vote. >> i'm half australian, i've got an australian passport and i, i think that's the way forward here. >> this sounds like somebody manipulating a voting system because they know there's no. >> but the tories have no, no, no they've got form on their finish. >> sorry. let me finish. it does sound as though this is somebody who is, if most people were more likely to be right wing when they were younger, i don't think sir keir starmer will be that impressed. why doesn't he call a referendum something? >> because that is a complete it's a good question because you

because it's because on this level of change in the electoral system, yes, the tories have just the tories introduced photo id, which nobody called for, even tories like jacob rees—mogg don't believe they changed the voting system for every mayoral election that we've just had in may. but no, it is changing. it is absolutely. and it's happened the same and it's happened in scotland and wales for local elections for and the scottish and welsh parliament, and that hasn't happened. well, i think if you're in scotland and wales, the parliament habit with local elections , you know that this elections, you know that this isn't right. >> you know he's doing this just because you own your post because you own your post because he'll damage the right, the, the younger generation are more likely to vote. labour because they're mainly woke bngade because they're mainly woke brigade and they will vote for him. that is the reasoning why he's doing this. him. that is the reasoning why he's doing this . do you know it? no. >> it's about making a better society. >> i've got the life skills to vote. i would be horrified if i'm thinking six year olds are voting because they haven't your full, you know, frontal cortex of your brain isn't fully developed. >> well, then we shouldn't ask them to pay taxes. well, then we i mean, do you want to raise the voting age to 25? >> should we go and let them all

buy alcohol as well? shall we? you know. >> no, i mean, no, we are saying is you can work. >> the key thing is at 16, we all know why he's doing this. >> at 16, you can be. and we all know why people are opposing it. because the people on the right of politics oppose it because they're worried about the left. i'm in favour of it because it's the right thing to do to get young people into the voting habit. i trust our young people responsibilities on 60 year old shoulders. >> they could do local elections , as you said, like you said. but hang on. but i don't think they should be in a general election only simply because they are not equipped with the skills to do that. all right. listen, i have a 15 year old who's almost 16. they will manipulate the system with tiktok and all the other stuff. and before you know it, they'll be they'll be. >> there's not the same for 18 year olds as well. >> no they haven't, they've but they can work full time. well let's see mostly they're mainly they haven't they haven't got they haven't they haven't got the life skills. >> well listen, this show's nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. there are two of you. i'm going to start with david barr. oh, no, i'm going to start with brian doogan in solihull. brian >> hi, nana. how you doing? i'm

good. yeah, i found it interesting there. the discussion where someone can have the life experience to vote when they're 18, but they don't have that life experience when they're 17. well, it's amazing what these 17 year olds must do then to gain that, we're a life experience by the time they're 18. well, let's start with 16. >> well, i don't think it is let's. because there's a whole world away from being 15 to 16 to 16 to 17. things happen at different ages. what about 16, then? 16 is too young. have you got children, brian? >> but sorry , sorry, it's 16 and 17. >> i thought was the debate . >> i thought was the debate. yeah. he can't. you can't say that 17 year olds lack the life experience. >> i didn't say i do. i do believe they do . believe they do. >> do. >> do. >> well, sorry. so you have to draw. you have to put a line somewhere, but you have to put a line somewhere. but i don't think the line should be so low. >> exactly. nana. and if you let me, state what i'd like to state, i think the line is fine. at 16 years old, for and the reason that you're saying that it's not logical, it's absolutely logical in terms of

if someone is able to work , if if someone is able to work, if someone is able to pay tax, if someone is able to pay tax, if someone is able to pay tax, if someone is able to be in the armed forces, how on earth can you say that they're unable to vote? >> well, listen, you can change. you can change gender at what is it, 13 and 14? there's no you know, come on, let's be honest. you change sex when you're youngen you change sex when you're younger, so you can't. that's the logical. >> it's the best thing i've ever heard. i've ever heard in the whole year so far that you can have life experience at 18 years old, but you have no life experience at 17. >> nobody said none. but i would say that as you as you live, you grow in your knowledge and you get to be able to do more things. and by that age you should have done more and you probably have a better, better handle on it. let me go to david balme. let me ask david balme and a 16 if you can work relevant. some people, yes, some people don't work a lot of life. some people don't work and don't pay some people don't work and don't pay taxes. and they also vote. david balme helena chard a great topic, i'm 66, so in the 1970s at my school, we had mock elections. >> i think it was the wilson

heath election . so we learned heath election. so we learned about the political thing. so if you want 16 to 17 year olds to vote, make politics part of their school or their education, don't suddenly say to a 16 year old, oh, by the way, you're voting in the next election , voting in the next election, because and all they're going to look at is your sales and tiktok. but the other thing that keir starmer keeps going about people working, as far as i know , children can't leave school at 16 and go and get a job. they have to stay in full time education to 18. so the argument that he's put forward is rubbish. >> yes they can, i think, i think children have to stay in full time education until you can leave after your you can't go on benefits, you can't go on benefits at 16, but you can leave at sarah dyke. >> make it political political studies as part of your education so you have an understanding of what goes on in parliament. >> well, i actually think voter the local elections to get them into the habit of voting, but not to the general election. >> yeah, i think local elections maybe, but not general. that's what my thoughts are. brian dugan, thank you very much for

your spirited discussion. and also, david varne, thank you. very good to talk to you. those are my great british voices. right. coming up, my quick five quiz, i'm going to test the panel on some of the stories that caught their eye this week. next though, my mini debate after employment tribunals found calling a woman from people's discrimination has woke culture gone too far. this is dup

news. good afternoon . only 11 minutes good afternoon. only 11 minutes to go. oh. have you been. what have you been doing? if you've just tuned in, why don't leave it so late? tomorrow we start at three. but moving on. another story that caught my eye today as a tribunal found that calling as a tribunal found that calling a woman frumpy at work could count as discrimination. as a result of this decision , the result of this decision, the woman who could now sue co—workers under the equalities law with a comment being inherently linked to gender and has a potential to violate the dignity of female colleagues. do you think that woke culture has gone too far? joining me to

discuss lizzie cundy and matthew laza lizzie cundy. >> oh, the woke brigade have gone mad this is just just crazy. am i allowed to say that word? and actually someone on the way in said there's a frumpy dress for you you're wearing today. did i take offence? no no, no, they're coming in. >> a&e . this is actually waiting >> a&e. this is actually waiting for 20 hours. >> but this is a real slippery slope we're on. you know, we've got a really be careful every word we say. >> i'm really worried about this. >> and just because you're offended doesn't make you right. exactly. >> look, i agree that just because you're offended doesn't doesn't make you right. and it also doesn't mean that somebody is being offensive just because you're offended. but i think that frumpy is you wouldn't hear people saying that about a man in quite the same way. so i think it's i think it's i think it's on the edge, that one. i mean, some people call it woke. i call it, you know, fairness in the workplace, but it needs to be common sense, common sense at all times , maybe is the way if all times, maybe is the way if you've dressed in a frumpy way, it's like having potatoes and eating, you know, really solid food. >> being frumpy is that sort of

thing. >> yeah, i think it depends on if somebody used it to bully somebody, that's different. but if it was just, i don't know the details in this case, the bullying thing, i don't think that would work very well. >> you'd be laughed at. >> you'd be laughed at. >> you'd be laughed at. >> you'd expect a bit harder with that, wouldn't you? >> yeah. from people from bully. >> yeah. from people from bully. >> i've been called a lot worse. >> i've been called a lot worse. >> yeah. me too. >> yeah. me too. >> you've called me a lot worse, lizzie. >> well, it's time for the quick fire quiz. the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the other stories that caught their eye. matthew laza your buzzer, please. and lizzie cundy, your buzzer, please write. please play along at home. question one. do you remember? things can only get better. drowned out rishi sunak selection announcement this week, but where did the song originally peak? in the us charts in 1993? the uk charts sorry was an a three, b 12 or c 24 matthew laza buzzer i think it was a3 a3, lizzie cundy b 12 b 12. let's see. the answer is b 24. you're both completely wrong. crikey >> you know well it's done better than that. it's now it's now number six in the itunes and

rising things can only get wetter . wetter. >> very good. closest answer wins. veteran labour mp harriet harman spoke in the commons of the final time yesterday. but how many times did she say she had spoken in the chamber? matthew laza , 1240 1042 obe way matthew laza, 1240 1042 obe way more than that, actually. >> can i change my answer? >> can i change my answer? >> no. 9000. well, there you go . >> no. 9000. well, there you go. who's the winner? me. lizzie cundy. there you go. right question three. who won the fa cup ? lizzie cundy? cup? lizzie cundy? >> man united . >> man united. >> man united. >> if she's correct, it was even higher. she'll be very happy. score are you just gonna. >> i was what i was doing the news, darling, i don't know. >> i just saw that it was a tactical, tactical victory for van hague or whatever he's called before they get rid of him. >> two nil. >> two nil. >> well, let's see, the score was two one. yeah. sorry. spoiler alert. yes the answer as much as united. right. question four. before his potential career , communities minister career, communities minister michael gove starred as a school chaplain in the 1994 family comedy a feast at midnight.

lizzie cundy. >> she was a member of the question we're running out of time, lizzie two. yes, i think it's true as well. matthew laza true. >> what if she's wrong? >> what if she's wrong? >> i'll just say false for the sake of it. it's true. i'm giving up today. it is true. >> the answer. what's the score? two, one. >> it could be very interesting. who's going to zero? >> actually, i wonder who will get. >> make sense, right? finally at natwest have released the results of a new survey about kids and their pocket money. but which chore came out on top as paying which chore came out on top as paying the best? a cleaning the car , b mowing the lawn or car, b mowing the lawn or c cleaning the windows? matthew laza a cleaning the car is cleaning the car, but i'll say cleaning the car, but i'll say cleaning the car, but i'll say cleaning the windows in the windows. my kids climbing up on the windows. crikey, no . oh, mow the windows. crikey, no. oh, mow the windows. crikey, no. oh, mow the lawn. mowing the lawn will be disastrous this week, isn't it? >> oh well, that was bad. i think i'm winning though. >> you've won. you've won on a very low score . very low score. >> winner of the quiz. i can't imagine my kids wanting to mow the lawn. no, i wouldn't trust them to do it. i think my daughter would. >> have you not got a robot mower? >> don't be silly. my lawn is so small. i have a gardener. oh well, listen, on today's show ,

well, listen, on today's show, i've been asking, should 16 year olds have the vote? and according to our twitter poll, 9% of you say yes, 91% of you say no. absolutely correct. are you also asked, whilst rishi sunak right to call an election now ? and according to my twitter now? and according to my twitter poll, 45% of you say yes, 55% of you say no. interesting. thank you say no. interesting. thank you for all your thoughts . thank you for all your thoughts. thank you for all your thoughts. thank you so much to my panel. former labour party adviser matthew laza thank you. and also broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. and also a huge thank you to you for joining cundy. and also a huge thank you to you forjoining me at home. i'll look forward to seeing you tomorrow. same time, same place, 3:00. be there or be square. next up, it's time for the saturday five. i'll leave you with the weather. have a good day. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest weather for gb news. over

the next 24 hours it's all changes. areas of rain move in from the atlantic. some heavy showers developing as well. and that's all thanks to low pressure which is going to dominate through the rest of the bank holiday weekend. areas of rain, some heavy showers and we can see that rain already pushing into some western areas . pushing into some western areas. today's rain still lingering across eastern parts of england , across eastern parts of england, pushing its way northward, some heavy bursts possible into the early hours. as we can see, most areas cloudy outbreaks of rain pushing northwards. but this will keep temperatures up for most, staying in double figures, turning breezy around the coast and over the hills as well, so it means a bit of a grey start to sunday morning. some glimmers of sunshine, perhaps first thing across southwest england, but let's take a look at the details. for sunday morning. we can see a dry start across northern scotland. 1 or 2 spells of sunshine but rain across the central belt, southern parts of scotland into northern ireland. some of this heavy at times two temperatures on the mild side. to start the day, we can see

cloudy across the rest of england and wales. two outbreaks of rain in places but some sunshine developing from the southwest, and these brighter skies will slowly push northwards as we move through the day on sunday, with the rain becoming more confined to the northern half of the uk . further northern half of the uk. further south, though, we will see some heavy thundery showers develop, particularly across parts of england and wales. these could lead to some local disruption, some hail, some localised flooding as well. temperatures a little lower compared to saturday, generally the mid to high teens locally up to around about 21 degrees across south east england and into the evening time. thunderstorms will slowly fade away. we'll still see further spells of rain across parts of scotland, northern ireland, northern england as we head into the early hours and then the next few days. it does remain unsettled further showers on monday, further spells of rain tuesday and into wednesday . tuesday and into wednesday. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on

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