the israeli parliament it was a it was vital that israel took every precaution possible to protect civilians caught up in the fighting for gaza . earlier, the fighting for gaza. earlier, israeli forces said they were investigating reports of an exchange of fire between israeli and egyptian soldiers close to the crossing. the idf said shooting incidents occurred on the egyptian border . it's the egyptian border. it's understood that the incident is understood that the incident is under review and discussions are being held with the egyptians . being held with the egyptians. the prime minister has defended his plan to make all, all 18 year olds carry out national service, describing it as a modern and bold . rishi sunak modern and bold. rishi sunak says the proposals will mean young people will get the skills and the opportunities they need, which will serve them well in life. he says it will make society more cohesive . society more cohesive. >> i believe this is the right thing to do because this is how we'll deliver a secure future for everyone and our country. we're not going to do that without taking bold action, and that's a type of leadership that

i offer. and this modern form of national service will mean that young people get the skills and the opportunities they need, which is going to serve them very well in life. it's going to foster a culture of service which is going to be incredibly powerful for making our society more cohesive and in a more uncertain and dangerous world. it's going to strengthen our country's security and resilience. so for all these reasons, i think this is absolutely the right thing to do i >> meanwhile, the labour leader has described the conservatives plan to reintroduce national service as desperate. speaking after his first keynote speech of the campaign, sir keir starmer dismissed the prime minister's proposals, got desperate policies being made up on the hoof by the tory party and then the image of their party arguing about the policy they only announced in the last couple of days and that, in a way, is the choice. >> at the election a labour party that is laser focused on the issues that really matter to people in saying we're going to fight for you and a conservative party that's out of road, out of

ideas, driven by chaos and division. and that has a cost, a human cost . human cost. >> a tory mp has been suspended by the conservative party for backing reform uk's candidate in the telford seat she is vacating. lucy allan, who is standing down at the general election, said on social media she'd be supporting allan adams to be the town's next mp. a spokesman for the conservative party said miss allan had been suspended from the party, with immediate effect. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or going to gb news slash alerts. now it's back to . martin. to. martin. >> thank you theo. now is the general election campaign begins to heat up. gb news presenter nigel farage appeared on sky news with trevor phillips yesterday , warning the biggest

yesterday, warning the biggest issue the country faces is the population explosion. well, dunng population explosion. well, during the controversial interview , nigel warned of how interview, nigel warned of how growing number of muslims loathe british values about muslims. >> here we are, and i'm afraid i found some of the recent surveys saying that 46% of british muslims support hamas, support a terrorist organisation that is prescribed in this country. >> well, perhaps unsurprisingly, the usual suspects have hit back at nigel with claims his comments were offensive and, of course, islamophobic. but with recent polling showing that 46% of british muslims do support hamas , is nigel right to discuss hamas, is nigel right to discuss this, or is he stirring up racial hatred? well, conservative minister anne—marie trevelyan appeared to back part of what nigel said on lbc this morning. >> the vast proportion of british millom is a wonderful, peace loving community minded people. certainly in the north east where i am based, we have

fantastic communities and they are really important part of our social fabric, there are a very small proportion for whom, they want to challenge those values that we hold dear in the uk and which are british values. and there we need to continue to work in community, to bring those people to those communities . communities. >> call that a soft endorsement . >> call that a soft endorsement. but i want to hear what you think on this. was nigel farage, right. email farage @gbnews .com or with the hashtag farage on gb news. and the man himself joins me in just at the moment. in fact, he sat right in here in the studio. but first, let's talk to gb news political correspondent olivia utley , correspondent olivia utley, who's been out on the campaign trail today following the lib dem leader, ed davey. olivia, welcome to the show . so you're welcome to the show. so you're still on that battle bus? it's called yellowhammer one, a bizarre name. a yellowhammer is a kind of inauspicious songbird that makes a lot of noise from the sidelines , while not being

the sidelines, while not being very dominant. seems fitting. tell us what's happened on day one. >> hello, martin. yes, i am just drawing in to kendall now on this lib dem battle bus. and as you say, it's called yellowhammer one. that's because the lib dems plan to smash up the lib dems plan to smash up the blue wall in the south of england with yellowhammer. we're in kendall now because it is the only lib dem held constituency in the north of england. and then tomorrow we'll be heading over to wales and then to the south. it's the south where ed davey is really hoping to pick up a lot of seats. there are lots of constituencies in the sort of home counties which are held by conservatives, have held by, have been held by conservatives for years. but the lib dems think that they stand a chance now , including jeremy chance now, including jeremy hunfs chance now, including jeremy hunt's constituency in surrey. it's places like that where ed davey is hoping that people will be prepared to vote as a sort of protest vote for the lib dems. unlike his predecessor, jo swinson , who ran the 2019 lib

swinson, who ran the 2019 lib dem on the motto jo swinson, your next prime minister ed davey is by no means hoping to sort of unseat the conservatives and become the party of government. what he does want to do is unseat a lot of conservative mps in the south of england, in constituency , where england, in constituency, where people are willing to protest against the tories. people are willing to protest against the tories . after 14 against the tories. after 14 years. he is feeling very, very optimistic. the lib dems i've spoken to today are feeling very optimistic . they're looking for optimistic. they're looking for a fun campaign. there's going to be some and i hear and ed davey not not ruling out a coalition with labour at the moment ruled out a coalition with the conservatives. but overall they seem to be quite excited about this campaign. thank you. >> olivia lee, live from yellowhammer one. now back in the studio , of course, i'm the studio, of course, i'm joined by nigel farage, the big man. so nigel, quick reaction to the lib dems do you think they'll be doing some tactical voting? >> i think there's a non—aggression pact with labour in place. really clear. one thing that davey is not doing is

attacking starmer at all and vice versa. so you can see what the pattern is going to be. you know, in surrey constituencies, places like that. jeremy hunts seat, for example, you know, labour will put in almost zero effort. leave it to the lib dems and it'll go the other way in parts of the east and west midlands. i suspect. so that's pretty clear. i mean, look, i have to say, i think sir ed davey is one of the least inspiring political leaders i've ever seen. mind you, there is some competition around these days, but, but but despite that , days, but, but but despite that, they'll probably get a low percentage of the overall vote. but they might up their seats quite considerably, and they'll be going for those tory shire seats. >> of course, the nimby seats . >> of course, the nimby seats. well, gb news political correspondent katherine forster spoke with sir keir starmer earlier on about how the labour party are going to tackle the current channel crisis. >> we absolutely have to stop the boats , there's no question the boats, there's no question about that. we shouldn't have anybody making that dangerous journey across the channel and the government has lost control of the borders. record numbers

have come already this year under sunak's leadership, so we've got to get to grips with that. no country can lose control of its borders and that will be a priority . vie i think will be a priority. vie i think that the first thing we need to do is to smash the gangs that are running the vile trade and putting people in boats in the first place. >> okay, nigel, before we move on to that explosive interview with trevor phillips, any reaction there to sir keir starmer talking tough on stopping the boat? >> yeah , we've been trying to >> yeah, we've been trying to smash the drugs gangs now for decades and every single year we have to admit that we haven't succeeded at all, that illegal drugs are being sold more heavily by gangs in this country than ever before, and indeed all over the world. and you can smash the gangs if you want to. makes no difference, makes no . makes no difference, makes no. you think about it. you've got a criminal trafficking gang in calais making between 2 and ,3 million a week. you can bring him a death penalty. there'll still be people queuing up to conduct that trade. starmer is offering literally nothing what so ever. you could argue that at

least, at least the conservatives have tried with the rwanda plan. they sadly, the echr court decided it wasn't to be. but but no, starmer is offering nothing whatsoever. and in fact , i have to say, it's so in fact, i have to say, it's so dull listening to him that it's quite difficult to sort of hold the argument. there's no substance of any kind on anything. >> he maintains that stopping the criminal gangs is the answer. going down line and not bothering about controlling our own border in britain . own border in britain. >> well, he's making that argument. he's also talking about a deal with the eu, which may mean even more people finish up coming here than before. smashing the gangs does not work. it's impossible. they will always be replaced. the point is, the reason people come is they know they won't be sent back and they've got every chance of being waved through in 2 or 3 years time. chance of being waved through in 2 or 3 years time . the refugee 2 or 3 years time. the refugee system, i mean, goodness knows why we allow so many in, but we do so. so starmer's wrong. this is this is our fault. the gangs

are only there because we allow people to stay. starmer will do nothing and ritchie's plan is going to fail as well. >> okay, now let's turn to the main event. the reaction to that interview yesterday on sky news with trevor phillips. it's fair to say once again, you've put the cat amongst the pigeons. this time you address really what many are considering to be the big elephant in the room. and that is what you perceive as a lack of integration of british muslims, some of them with british values . tell us more. british values. tell us more. >> yeah. i mean, look, the point i'm making is there is a very deep sense of unease in the country. you know, you see a green party local politician elected in leeds just screaming allahu akbar. it's a bit odd. you see supporters of a victorious candidate in leeds saying we're coming to get you , saying we're coming to get you, and the polling that was done by jl partners a few weeks ago, the most alarming statistic was this amongst 18 to 24 year old young muslims living in britain , 23% muslims living in britain, 23% said they supported the concept of jihad. now i put it to you,

thatis of jihad. now i put it to you, that is not a british value. it is a failure of integration . and is a failure of integration. and for all the talk we had from blair, from mandelson about diversity, this isn't diversity. you're finishing up with whole areas of our towns and cities that are completely unrecognisable as being english, and i think that's undeniable. so all i was stating was a deep sense of unease, and that's why you know, for rishi sunak as prime minister, to be to be allowing 1.2 million people a year to settle here, i think integration on that scale is literally impossible. so labour started it. the conservatives have made it worse. now the reaction, of course, there are those that will scream and shout. there were those that will say it's islamophobic or it's racist. well, i just think when they use words like that, it's because they don't want to have the debate. they don't want to talk about it. they're losing the argument. i can tell you that if you look on gb news website, you look at newspaper national newspaper websites and

see the reaction from joe public. it's been overwhelmingly in support. >> there has been a lot of criticism, as you'd expect . you criticism, as you'd expect. you would have known that was coming. zara mohammed, who's the secretary—general of the muslim council of britain, she said so horribly islamophobic and racist, doing what farage does best, reinforcing his hate filled rhetoric of misinformation. >> what she doesn't want she doesn't want a debate . if she doesn't want a debate. if she wants to come and sit with me on a panel and debate this, then she's more than welcome to, you know, and of course , you know, i know, and of course, you know, i was talking about this and it is a minority . was talking about this and it is a minority. but the was talking about this and it is a minority . but the worry, a minority. but the worry, marston, is it's a growing minority, particularly since the events of october the 7th in gaza that are espousing views. i mean, goodness me, i mean, chat the other day wearing a hamas shirt, walking down a london street , people chanting in street, people chanting in fritada on, you know, the streets of london two weeks ago, i think it's pretty obvious to everybody that something is going very, very badly wrong. >> why do you think it is? we would expect those who are more, who are older, more entrenched

in traditional conservative muslim values may be less integrated. the concerning thing about this, nigel, as you said, younger people seem to be more radicalised. what's driving that is it's social media. is it is it the environment they're steeped in? why are younger muslims seemingly more against british values? >> what is happening in some of those muslim communities, particularly in northern towns and cities, is they are achieving the lowest educational results of any particular group. there are even health problems in some of those groups. highest levels of welfare dependency of any group in the country. and it's in an environment like that where people aren't progressing , where people aren't progressing, they're not moving forwards, that bad ideas thrive. >> but of course, the muslim council of britain would say, well, that's because they're left behind. that's because they've been abandoned by policymakers . they need help not policymakers. they need help not to be attacked. >> no, i think the fact is i mean, i mean, goodness me, on this channel, the number of muslim lawyers and business people that we have on talking about things that have got their

own private observance of religion but are a fully integrated part of the community. and you can see this with the jewish community. you can see it with the hindu community. you know, where people have different origins and faiths, but we have commonality and we all get on. this is a particular problem in islam. i, you know, it is a minority, but it's a growing minority, but it's a growing minority . and if we don't talk minority. and if we don't talk about it, we're going to finish up with sectarian politics, with people voting along religious lines in a very big way. and i know i'm old enough to remember what sectarian politics did in northern ireland. i don't want to see anything like that in england. okay. >> we'll be debating that in much more detail later on the show. i want to ask you about a dramatic event today, and that is lucy allen, the conservative mp for telford, has come out and endorsed the reform party candidate, allan adams . do you candidate, allan adams. do you know that was going to happen? and how surprised are you by that? >> not very surprised at all. i mean, obviously lee anderson was one that left the conservatives and joined reform. there are dozens of conservative mps who agree with reforms agenda far

more than their own. they know that rishi won't stop the boats. they know that the conservatives have lied and i mean lied in every single manifesto since 2010 about legal migration , 2010 about legal migration, which has now reached these record numbers. so there's a lot of disaffection in that wing of the conservatives, and i wouldn't be surprised if there weren't more lucy allens in the next couple of weeks. >> she's been suspended from the party. are you expecting her membership to be terminated? she'd be persona non grata. should be. she'll be put out to seed. >> i wouldn't think lucy allan would be. would really care because, you know, she stood and was elected for a conservative party that she believed in and she like millions of us, feels betrayed by them. >> and she's saying she's calling allan adams the next member of parliament for telford. do you think she'll campaign or help fundraise even? >> it does sound like it, doesn't it? it does sound like she's absolutely foursquare behind the reform candidate, who i don't know, but i believe is a very , very good chap. look, you very, very good chap. look, you know, the fact is , the fact is know, the fact is, the fact is we're in a bizarre situation .

we're in a bizarre situation. the vast majority, i mean, 70% of conservative voters want it pretty much a freeze on immigration or numbers down to very, very low numbers. and what they've got is a government giving us giving us three quarters of a million a year. and i mentioned yesterday that trevor interview that the other i mean, my really biggest part of the interview, we are living through a population explosion caused by british politicians thatis caused by british politicians that is damaging the quality of life of every single person in this country. we are becoming poorer because of it. our lifestyles. we can't get gp appointments, our kids can't get houses. and just think about this. even if you go for the net figure, not the gross, it's a migrant. a minute , a migrant a migrant. a minute, a migrant a minute coming into this country under a conservative government, far more than even tony blair gave us years ago. you know, we've got to provide a new house, a new dwelling , one every house, a new dwelling, one every two minutes just to cope with

this influx . it two minutes just to cope with this influx. it is impossible. and i think for far too long tory and labour have done their best not to talk about this. they've no intention of discussing this in a general election and that's why i'm helping richard tice. we need to have this debate and frankly, they need to be held accountable and talking of which, tomorrow morning you're at dover, you're having a reform party press conference. >> dover, of course, talismanic in the illegal, immigrants arriving but also , you seem arriving but also, you seem fully square behind the idea of making this an immigration election. can you give us a sneak preview of what you might expect to hear at dover tomorrow? >> four years ago, i was going out into the english channel filming small boats coming, predicting that if we didn't deal with it, you may as well put a sign on the white cliffs of dover. everyone welcome and i said there would be an invasion. i was called all the names under the sun for daring to use that word. well, since that time , word. well, since that time, 3800 boats have come, 125,000 people have come, most of them young men under did young males.

i think that poses a very serious potential security risk to this country, particularly in the wake of what's happened on october the 7th and what is going on in gaza, and i'm going to expose tomorrow the fact that rishi can't stop the boats. starmer hasn't got a clue. i shall put down tomorrow exactly what we need to do to succeed in the way that tony abbott did when he was prime minister of australia, and stopped the boats coming from indonesia. >> operation sovereign borders, of course, was the only big success on this issue anywhere, ever on the planet. finally, there's all talk of a blair style wipe—out how bad , how, how style wipe—out how bad, how, how severe do you think the forest fire is going to be that hits the conservative party and the charred remains are left? nigel, are you going to help in some way ? try and rebuild way? try and rebuild conservatism in britain? >> well , not conservatism in britain? >> well, not under this conservative party leadership. i mean, they've absolutely burnt the house down. they've lost trust. they've lost faith . they trust. they've lost faith. they are, they are. i mean, really

people's feelings towards the conservative party, particularly those 2019 voters who perhaps had never voted for the party before , are unrepeatable, live before, are unrepeatable, live on air ahead of the watershed . on air ahead of the watershed. people are very, very upset. i don't know how bad the loss is going to be, but i just sense that the sunak campaign thus far is a disaster. he talks about bold leadership , but he looks bold leadership, but he looks like a frightened rabbit, and even the national service pledge when you start to unpick it, only applies to 30,000 people a yeah only applies to 30,000 people a year. that would be 1 in 26 of the 18 year olds in this country. the rest will be asked to do just 25 hours a year of voluntary service. none of it's working and i think they're in danger , actually, of spiralling downwards. >> and where do you think those 30,000 might live? the bibby stockholm or rafe scampton ? stockholm or rafe scampton? >> i've absolutely no idea. and who would train them, given that the british army has gone from 100,000 men to 75,000 men, morale is at an all time low. you couldn't do any form of national service without a massive increase in the army.

what sunak should be saying is we need 30,000 of you to volunteer to join the army proper and actually incentivise it. >> nigel farage always a pleasure. thank you very much for joining us on your own show. i'm delighted to stand in for now. coming up, i'll be joined by the co—founder of the muslim debate initiative as we discuss nigel's comments on british muslims

welcome back. now, at the start of the show, we asked you , was of the show, we asked you, was nigel farage right? to say muslim voters don't share britain's values? well, here's what you had to say. and william tells us, i totally agree with nigel. we are losing our country and fast. and mick says this . and fast. and mick says this. nigel farage is stating what most people believe. there are thousands of british muslims who do not subscribe to our values. speaking the truth is not allowed anymore in this woke

country. and another viewer adds this i think there's a loud vocal minority that caused the most shouting over this, and most shouting over this, and most people here are peaceful and tolerant. now, before the break, we were hearing from nigel farage following his comments about parts of the muslim population not subscribing to british values. he said there was a deep sense of unease. and here's a stark warning nigel gave when he spoke to me just a few moments ago. the fact is, i mean, i mean, goodness me, on this channel, the number of muslim lawyers and business people that we have on talking about things that have got their own private observance of religion but are a fully integrated part of the community. >> and you can see this with the jewish community. you can see it with the hindu community. you know, where people have different origins and faiths, but we have commonality and we all get on. this is a particular problem in islam. i, you know, it is a minority, but it's a growing minority. and if we don't talk about it, we're going to finish up with sectarian politics, with people voting

along religious lines in a very big way. and i know i'm old enough to remember what sectarian politics did in northern ireland. i don't want to see anything like that in england . england. >> okay. it's time for a debate on this now. and joining me in the studio to debate nigel's explosive interview as the media commentator rafe heydel—mankoo and also abdullah al andalusi , and also abdullah al andalusi, the co—founder of the muslim debate initiative. let's start with you, abdullah. so, the cat's been put amongst the pigeons once again by nigel farage. a lot of people saying his comments were horribly islamophobic and racist. would you agree with that? i would say that many people have described what he said as, race baiting or religious baiting, because most people who are muslim in this country, were from immigrant backgrounds or recent immigrant backgrounds. and so they are convenient targets . 150 years convenient targets. 150 years ago, oswald mosley and nigel farage of his time, one might argue, from the british union of fascists, argued that jews were a problem in this country and that there was a large

population who weren't assimilating or didn't follow british values. so here we are, in somewhat repeating history again with this and one of the most dangerous things i noticed from nigel farage's comments was he was criticising, anti—genocide anti—apartheid protests in palestine, is it british values then? if they are the ones who are meant to be against british values, is nigel farage saying that to be british is to be supporting genocide and apartheid? well, hang on, i think that's very worrying. >> the anti—semitism, the rise of fascism on british streets, it isn't coming from people like nigel farage. it's coming from the islamists. >> well, fascism is to say that the country is more important than individual rights or and so on.and than individual rights or and so on. and so anyone who says that this country should come first beyond people's individual rights or freedoms is by definition, or the state should come first, is by definition of fascist. so that wouldn't apply. secondly, anti—semitism show one, just show one clip of someone attacking all jews, insulting jews or inciting people to hate jews in any one of these demonstrations, we all hear a lot of rhetoric from somebody said, gas the jews,

somebody said, gas the jews, somebody wearing a hamas sign, children just dress as fancy dress. >> hamas terrorists . >> hamas terrorists. >> hamas terrorists. >> we have. then we have to see the video show the video where someone said, gas the jews, right? because i because i would equally condemn that like anyone else here, this is that would be abhorrent. but we haven't seen any evidence. all we hear is there happens rumours weekend. >> it's not rumours, it's there. >> it's not rumours, it's there. >> the evidence is crystal clear. >> then show the video. well, we haven't got it now the video. >> you can google it. rafe heydel—mankoo you want to counter this? yeah. >> well, i mean, look, it goes without saying that the majority of muslims in this country are well integrated and adjusted and that should be celebrated. but people constantly say, oh, it's a small minority who are like this. it's not. it's a very sizeable minority of the muslim population of this country hold views, attitudes and beliefs that run contrary , completely that run contrary, completely contrary to our civilisation and our culture. and it's not getting better. people used to say, oh well, this is just first immigration. muslims, their children and grandchildren were very different. on the contrary, it's the children today who hold far more radical views than their parents or grandparents. i

mean, there was one poll done by the policy exchange that showed this is quite unbelievable. one third of young british muslims aged 16 to 24 believe ex—muslims should be put to death for apostasy. this is quite amazing. a majority of british muslims believe that homosexuality should be illegal, compared to 5% of the broader population . 5% of the broader population. three quarters of british muslims in the last poll do not believe that hamas committed murder and rape on october the 7th. now, you might think that's that's a bizarre thing for them to believe, but it's actually in keeping with previous polls , 31% keeping with previous polls, 31% of british muslims believe that america was behind, 9/11, 7% believe it was the jews. only 4% believe it was the jews. only 4% believe it was al—qaeda, which of course we know more muslims also believe that diana was killed because she wanted to marry a muslim, then believe she was killed in an accident. now those are just the most bizarre things. but then you go, you look further and you see that

62% of muslims want to restrict free speech in order to protect religious sensitivities. 52% believe that there should be no picture of mohammed shown on every gauge you look at. most scarily , 9% of british muslims, scarily, 9% of british muslims, 400,000 people identify as being islamists and supporters of terrorism, and 15% sympathise with terrorism compared to compared to 6% compared to 6% in in in france and germany, and 81% 81% of british muslims identify as muslim first and british second, whereas it's only 66% in germany and it's only 66% in germany and it's only 46% in france . we have a only 46% in france. we have a real issue here, which we need to address, and we can't keep covering these things up. abdullah. >> that's a barrage of data. how would you respond to that? okay, yeah. >> and in this very same poll, twice as many of the non—muslim public, british public that was polled were likely to support isis than muslims . that's in isis than muslims. that's in five polls. that's in the same

poll. right. these are five polls. we're talking about, the one you referenced. so in this poll, you get some very weird data coming out. but that's beside the point. the point is that muslims, if you ask religious jews who have very similar laws and beliefs to muslims, will say very much the same thing. they're going to say they're jewish first and maybe british second. it's a big was a big debate amongst jews throughout this throughout for many decades. and there are sizeable portions of jewish people that believe that they're jewish first, and they even have gone to the israeli, let me finish. they have gone. they have gone to participate in the israeli defence forces, to fight as reservists for israel. but they are not reservists in britain. they would not fight for britain or they have not fight for fought for britain, these very same people. why don't you see any complaint against their patriotism and their nationalism? because i don't recall . don't recall. >> i don't recall jews blowing themselves up. i don't recall jews beheading anybody. i don't recall jews flying planes into buildings. so that's, i think we're not talking about no difference. >> no, we're not, we're not, we're not it's not talking about jews here. but zionists have in the past killed british

politician, throughout the palestine struggles, they, they called it, they supported actual terrorism blowing up king david hotel. they they supported and funded internationally terrorist operations against british army in israel and palestine . in israel and palestine. >> and you know that, abdullah, if we pull this into the here and the now, right, rather than dredging through history the violence on british streets, the arrests on british streets, the, the, the, the fox hunting protests and demonstrations that led to 60 police officers being every saturday in britain, we are seeing the protest now. we're seeing soaring anti—semitism. we're seeing politicians being forced out of office. we're seeing politicians in david amess being killed. there is a commonality amongst that. you must admit these figures are damning. and i particularly want to ask you, why is it that young british muslims seem to be especially radicalised when compared to the older muslims? i find that surprising . why is that surprising. why is that happening? >> firstly, i think that this is all a red herring. people are entitled to religious views in

england. if they force these into these religious. no, these religious views , what might be religious views, what might be what you might call conservative or ultra orthodox, depending on. and they will be at odds with the liberal ideals of liberal values, sharia law as an orthodox point, that's against the law of the land, not on non—muslims. right? then no one ever said they wanted to live by shana ever said they wanted to live by sharia law. jews want to live by halakha or jewish law, and they halakha orjewish law, and they even have beit denes, which is a jewish courts that resolve disputes in this country. no one complains about that. well at least not now. the british union of fascists 150, 20 years ago, did complain about that. and of course, we're seeing history repeat itself. the issue is this if jews can have these things, if jews can have these things, if jews can live in stamford hill and golders green and have their and have their own their own culture, and relatively, they even have their own like a security force called the shomrim. and that's not a problem . and great. and i, shomrim. and that's not a problem .and great. and i, i problem. and great. and i, i support that. okay. and then why can't muslims who have the same i want to pull this conversation out if i could back to nigel farage's comments. >> i know you put a post out

about that extraordinarily, it's been taken down. i put tweet ending nigel farage and all i did was i provided some of the same statistics and simply for telling the truth today you get silenced because i think it's almost as if the establishment elite understand that multicultural ism has failed, and that islam is a tinderbox waiting to go off, and they're treading on eggshells around it. >> and it reminded me precisely of the last 30 years in rotherham and oldham when the police, the social services, the councils were petrified by political correctness and so beholden to this ideology of multicultural ism that they allowed the industrial scale rape of young british girls by pakistani muslims for fear of inflaming community tensions. that's why nigel farage and i are getting silenced for speaking the truth. we have imported vast numbers of people into this country who have no intention of assimilating . they intention of assimilating. they leave segregated lives in islamic silos , with whose daily islamic silos, with whose daily lives pass with little or no interaction with wider british society. and they exist in a world that's almost like a petri dish. did you say stanford hill?

second, let me finish the point. in these communities, they're like petri dishes where cultural , abhorrent cultural practices are being practised. forced marriages , honour killings. marriages, honour killings. britain is now the global centre of acid attacks . we've already of acid attacks. we've already spoken about the grooming gangs that are taking place. these are abhorrent practices. we know full well that muslims living in these communities are twice as likely to be as extremists, as those living in non—segregated communities, and we're only making this worse by continuing mass immigration. >> final word to you, abdullah . >> final word to you, abdullah. i want to try and get you to respond to what nigel farage said. nigel farage speaking out. let's put the cat amongst the pigeons. is it helpful? yes. or no? >> well, i'm saying is that i feel that he's scared to use those same standards he levels against muslims, against jews for doing exactly the same thing in terms of what you might call living in nigel in golders green and so on. would you call that a silo? you wouldn't you wouldn't dare because you'd be called an anti—semite and you'd you would hate that acid attacks in golders green. you said if england is the global, the global leader in acid attacks, then, then, then and it's not then, then, then and it's not the muslim world then clearly then it's not going to have to

do with islam or muslims anyway. anyway, that's my rubbish. anyway. please address what nigel said. >> is it helpful or not? i mean, he's speaking truth, but it. >> well, well, i think we have to ask ourselves. is nigel out for the rights of the british citizen, the rights of the british citizen to protest and demonstrate no police are injured or attacked every week on the palestine demonstration of protest on fox hunting. the demonstrations that he attended. in one case, there was a riot in parliament square, where 60 police were injured and mps were housed, were barricaded by fox hunting protesters. right anti anti—bank protesters. and yet he supports that. but yet peaceful protests go out for palestine and he wants to clamp down the question is does he have britain's british rights? british citizens rights in his mind as his number one concern? or does he have israel or other foreign countries governments? we have to leave it there. ideas that he wants to leave with that all our agenda, all i've said in response to that is i pleaded with the police to stop people putting that sign on big ben when it happened from river to sea, i said to them, there's a

projector, go and take it down. >> they would not soft soap it. people find it grossly offensive and many feel it's shame. well guess what? >> guess what? guess what? rights and freedoms all about freedom is to have the freedom to do something. even despite people find it grossly offensive. looks like you guys, have issue with british values. well, it's not a british values system . not muslim, because system. not muslim, because you're defending freedom and liberty. >> of course, all gb news does it talks about banning this, banning that has a problem with this, a problem with that, and that they should clamp down on this on on the rights of british citizens to protest or demonstrate when there's clearly no anti—semitism there, not a single, smoking gun you can present on camera . present on camera. >> just rumours. oh, we hear this anti—semitism happening. not a single, not a single time, not a single image you can show. >> okay, so that gas the jews comment was in australia. i believe it was broadcast . believe it was broadcast. >> we're talking about we're talking about britain. but anyway. >> but but the children dressed as hamas terrorists. that was very much in britain. in fact, the police posed for pictures with them. we have to leave it there, gentlemen. >> demonstrators attacking physically attacking brutalising students at ucl in america. we know one gentleman. >> we have to leave it there.

rafe heydel—mankoo and abdullah al andalusi, co—founder of the muslim debate initiative, a lively debate. thank you both very much, gentlemen. now over the weekend, rishi sunak promised the introduction of mandatory national service for 18 year olds. if the conservatives win the next general election . well, there's general election. well, there's been plenty of media backlash, but in a moment i'll be speaking to someone who thinks it might just be a good idea

welcome back. well, this weekend. rishi sunak announced the first big new policy announcement of the election campaign so far. and sunak promised the introduction of mandatory national service for 18 year olds. if the conservative party wins the next general election. will the prime minister said they'll be given a choice between 12 months in the armed forces or one weekend a month volunteering in their local community. and he claimed the measure would help to unite

society in an increasingly uncertain world. well, rishi sunak also said applications would open in september 2025, with a new national service act introduced by the end of the next parliament. well, while the act would compel people to participate by law, the tories were quick to say that teenagers will not face criminal sanctions if they refuse to take part. well, earlier on gb news, i spoke to veterans affairs minister johnny mercer, who who described the pm's plans as a fantastic opportunity . fantastic opportunity. >> i think it's a fantastic opportunity for, young people , opportunity for, young people, the military service part is a really small part of it. and, you know, if that's what you want to do, you can go and do it, but no one's going to be forced to do it. no one's going to be forced to go off to war. so actually, i think, i think it's a real, opportunity. i think, it could be wonderful for the country, the royal commission needs to work through the details, but, i'm looking forward to, working with them, working through them to. and finding out what opportunities

this can present. >> and actually, just at the end of the i said to johnny mercer, you're a fighting man. but this must feel like that scene in zulu. but perhaps without the victory that caught him a bit off guard. and meanwhile , labour off guard. and meanwhile, labour leader sir keir starmer spoke to our reporter katherine forster, this afternoon. here's what he had to say. the desperate idea that the tories are fleeing on the table of some sort of national service, which isn't thought through . thought through. >> all the military leaders who've got experience, are saying it won't work. it'll take resource away from, our military , our defence. that's the last thing we need. the government's already hollowed out . the army already hollowed out. the army is smaller than since napoleonic , times. so, you know, in the end and they're taking money from the lifting up fund to do it. i mean, i think it's absolutely important in this election to focus on what is uppermost in people's minds , uppermost in people's minds, which is the cost of living crisis. and the nhs . crisis. and the nhs. >> so there we have sir keir starmer calling it desperate

teenage dad's army stuff. he said they'd lost control of our borders, which must hurt because of course that's the key phrase lost control. but so far i think what we've seen is a lot of attacking the ideas that aren't yours. but scant detail from sir keir starmer. what is he? what is he going to do about border control? national service, defence or the economy? i guess will have to wait and see. today was just day one. it's going to be a very long six weeks. and now for a brief change of pace as we turn to the all important topic of cheese rolling. because earlier today, one of the most dangerous sports in the world took place. and a bunch of damn fools ignored ignored warnings from the local safety advisory group not to attend the annual gloucestershire cheese rolling festival this afternoon. there they are, treading carefully , they are, treading carefully, and the winner of the event, which dates back to the 1800s, is the first to the bottom of cooper's hill as they chase a three kilogram double gloucester cheese rolling down the steep

180 metre hill. it hit speeds apparently of 70 miles an hour. now winning the men's race was tom from germany, while abby, from north carolina , a previous from north carolina, a previous winner, won the women's event. when our reporter jack carson he wasn't tough enough to have a gouda himself was there. i spoke to some of the big cheeses at those , defying the competitors. those, defying the competitors. >> slightly surprised , but i >> slightly surprised, but i said i was going to win it. so, managed to do it. i wasn't quite sure that if i had or not, i knew there were a lot of people coming in pretty fast. so, yeah, i put in the effort when i could. >> i just remember rolling down in my face, getting beat up again, and flying down. and i was just thinking to myself, like, there's only going to be a few seconds. i'm going to get to the bottom at some point, and then it'll be over. i found out about it years ago on the internet. rabbit holes on youtube leads you to weird places, but i wanted to defend my title again. two years i did it. i was in the right place at the right time. so i travelled

to here to do it. and this year i wanted to do it again to defend my title. >> well, well done to all the big cheeses who took part and to jack, who couldn't have done a better job himself. cheeses. who betterjob himself. cheeses. who writes this stuff? next we'll talk to a member of george galloway's controversial workers party and the gaza vote, and how it will impact this general election

welcome back. now, we'll discuss sectarian politics earlier in the show . and the israel—hamas the show. and the israel—hamas war has proven tricky territory for politicians recently. in particular, british muslims who are unhappy with how labour is approaching the issue . well, approaching the issue. well, george galloway and his workers party of britain capitalised on this and won the rochdale by—election earlier this year in what was dubbed the gaza vote. however, the party is not without its controversy. in just

two days ago, the party had to drop its candidate for putney over anti—semitic remarks. well, to discuss all of this, i'm delighted to be joined in the studio by peter ford, who's the deputy leader of the workers party of britain. and peter is also the former british ambassador to bahrain and syria. fantastic cv . welcome to the fantastic cv. welcome to the studio, peter. so nigel talks a lot about what he sees as an emerging sectarianism in british politics. you got into some hot water over this on the trevor phillips show on sunday. yesterday what's your take on that? the workers party of britain seems quite happy to go after the muslim vote to get in power. yet, nigel pointed out they seem to share some values , they seem to share some values, a lot of values which seem quite incompatible with mainstream british values. does that concern you ? concern you? >> what concerns me is that we're not talking about the atrocity that happened overnight in in gaza. it is surely not surprising that many people in this country, muslims and

non—muslims, are absolutely horrified by the atrocity. 45 people killed in gaza, most of them civilians, two over 200 injured, many of them maimed . injured, many of them maimed. think about that. dozens of children left today without limbs. just reflect on that for a moment. it's not surprising that feelings run high in this country. and what is sectarian is that none of the main parties offer a voice to those who believe that what is going on in gazais believe that what is going on in gaza is a constant and repeated atrocity. that's what sectarian , atrocity. that's what sectarian, what sectarian is to try to stigmatise the muslim community to and try to, call the to try to and try to, call the to try to call the peace marches, hate marches . marches. >> well, that's quite a lot of

hate that happens on the peace marches, as you call them. we've seen a 700% rise in anti—semitic attacks in london alone since they came out. we've seen parliament itself surrounded by a baying mob, which influenced what happened inside. in terms of a vote, we've seen, sikhs dnven of a vote, we've seen, sikhs driven today. we've seen new legislation coming forward to protect british teachers from blasphemy laws. the batley grammar school teacher still in hiding three years on. this isn't driven by peace. it's dnven isn't driven by peace. it's driven by hate , this batley driven by hate, this batley thing is such a transparent election ploy . they've had three election ploy. they've had three years to think some thing up and now they spring it on us. days or a few weeks before the general election. it is despicable that the prime minister should try to make political capital. >> do you calm down? >> do you calm down?

>> do you condemn what the what the muslim community did in batley and spen to that teacher? yes or no ? he can't work. he's yes or no? he can't work. he's in hiding. his family's in hiding. >> the teacher in question was silly. he should have had better judgement . judgement. >> it would have been better judgement not to have issued death threats and force him out of the school. >> surely the issue today is that one party is trying to make capital out of this issue , and capital out of this issue, and it's outrageous that they are the ones who are stirring up sectarian feeling . sectarian feeling. >> if a teacher is forced into hiding and can't work for three years, and his wife and kids are also in fear of their lives and unable to work, how is he the one stirring up hatred? >> there are laws to deal with this. existing laws are are quite sufficient and, there is absolutely no need for a new blasphemy law. >> okay. thank you very much for

joining us. peter ford . and i'm joining us. peter ford. and i'm quickly joined by tom, who now you are you are identifying as jacob rees—mogg. what's on your show quickly. >> yeah. state of the nation. we're going to talk about national service. we're going to talk to former mp, former mep and get this, a viral tiktok influencer who's had tens of millions of views talking about national service on that. so we'll get gen z perspective as well. >> superb. tom harwood is jacob rees—mogg? that's next. thank you very much. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler dollars. sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so there's been plenty of showers around for many of us today, and there's further rain expected over the next couple of days, all thanks to low pressure situated out towards the west of the uk, slowly moving its way towards us over the next couple of days, bringing some heavy rain and some blustery showers . any some blustery showers. any showers that we have seen across eastern parts of scotland and northern england will gradually

ease as we head through the rest of this evening, leaving some clear spells overnight here but down towards the southwest. a very different picture. plenty of cloud around and some outbreaks of heavy rain moving in. temperatures here around 12 or 13 degrees, but definitely a little chillier under those clear skies. and quite a bright start for parts of scotland and northern england through tuesday morning. however, down towards the southwest it'll be a much greyer and damper picture to start on tuesday. those temperatures starting the day around 13 or 14 degrees and heavy and persistent rain continuing through much of tuesday morning, particularly across northern ireland and parts of wales. as i mentioned, a bit of a brighter start across parts of scotland, albeit a chilly start in places. however, there will be some sunshine as we head through tuesday morning, but in towards the afternoon that area of rain continues to push its way northwards, eventually reaching into parts of northern england and scotland, later two behind that area of rain . plenty of showers area of rain. plenty of showers across northern ireland, wales and into southern and central parts of england too, again with

some hail and thunder mixed in some hail and thunder mixed in so some heavy downpours, likely another warm day. temperatures around 17 or 18 degrees, so around 17 or 18 degrees, so around about average for the time of year, although perhaps just a little cooler under that cloud and rain further north. wednesday does start a little brighter for most of us. plenty of sunny spells through the morning, but quite quickly as we head towards the afternoon, there'll be plenty of showers developing again. these heaviest across eastern parts of england and scotland, and there could be some hail and thunder mixed in further showers as well on thursday, but there are some hints of high pressure returning towards the end of the week and in towards the weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on

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of gb news. bringing you state of gb news. bringing you state of the nations 2024 election coverage tonight . national coverage tonight. national service or irrational disservice. rishi sunak raised a few eyebrows this week when he announced that a conservative government would bring back a form of mandatory national service . but with the home service. but with the home secretary saying there'll be no criminal penalties for sidestepping the so—called compulsory scheme, is the plan workable, or is it an ideological gimmick thought up by theresa may era policy wonks and nigel farage has faced utmost opprobrium for the crime of saying to trevor phillips exactly what trevor phillips himself said about british muslims. just a few years ago. we asked tonight why the uproar and today marked sir keir starmer's first election campaign speech. the moment just about no one has been waiting for the opportunity to provide substance over style came and went as his majesty's leader of the opposition and knight of the realm attempted to invoke working class roots plus , the

working class roots plus, the prince of harry's courtroom drama continues as the biden administration pleads with a court to keep the duke of california's visa application under wraps . all that to come, under wraps. all that to come, state of the nation starts now. and through it all, i'll be joined by my panel. the former labour mp and former royal navy seaman stephen pound, and the former brexit party mep turned conservative annunziata rees—mogg. that's all coming up after your headlines with theo chikomba . chikomba. >> it's 8:01. i'm theo chikomba in the gb newsroom. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has described the strike, which reportedly killed 45 people in the southern gazan city of rafah, as a tragic

mishap. mr netanyahu says we are