away . it's 930 on tuesday, the away. it's 930 on tuesday, the 28th of may. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> we had a lovely bank holiday. thank you for joining >> we had a lovely bank holiday. thank you forjoining us >> we had a lovely bank holiday. thank you for joining us this morning. so pension protection. rishi sunak has pledged to cut income tax for 8 million pensioners by £100 next year, and reassures them that he is on their side . their side. >> i'm bringing growth to britain. more than 120 business leaders have written an open letter backing the labour party , letter backing the labour party, an education for the rich only it may be.

>> a shocking report shows that 4 in 10 private school pupils will be driven out by sir keir starmers tax raid and that will impact everyone. schools and burglary crackdown the lib dem leader, sir ed davey, says all burglaries will be investigated. >> oh dear, how many times we heard this? if his party comes to power , well, they're not to power, well, they're not going to come to power. >> and today he's paddleboarding in windermere with the local mp, tim farron. oh, that doesn't look very nice, does it? let's hopeit look very nice, does it? let's hope it goes better than his attempt at kayaking last year. the metaphors are strong in that footage. oh, sinking ships drowning. i know there's a lot we could talk. i'm just thinking. >> is it 37 days to go to the election? can we stand it? >> we can stand it. i, for one, am enthusiastic about this. i love seeing what they're throwing at all of us now, as these policies just keep coming

from left, right and centre, don't they? let us know your thoughts this morning, gbnews.com/yoursay or say we have a packed show today. don't go anywhere. first though. tatiana sanchez. >> bev, thank you very much and good morning. the top stories from the gb news room. pensioners could be in for a tax break worth up to £2.4 billion a year as part of an election pledge by the conservative party. it could see cuts worth around £95 in the next tax year, rising to £275 by 2029. the prime minister says it will be funded by a clamp down on tax dodges, despite recent data showing that staff shortages have led to hmrc answering 22% fewer calls than it did in 2020. labour described the plan as a desperate move, but work and pensions secretary mel stride told gb news it's part of the government's broader plan . government's broader plan. >> want to go still further? and that's where the triple lock plus comes in. and what that

means is that we will be uprating, just not just the pensions by the triple lock, but also what's called the personal allowance. that's the amount that you can earn without paying any income tax. also by that same uprating by the triple lock uprating. and what that will mean is tax cuts now for pensioners throughout the next parliament. labour have completely dismissed this, which basically means that during the next parliament, under labour, what you're going to be seeing is millions of pensioners being dragged into paying income tax, having to fill all those forms in all that paperwork and red tape and extra costs to pensioners . pensioners. >> meanwhile, the shadow chancellor is due to deliver her first major speech of the election campaign . rachel reeves election campaign. rachel reeves is expected to tell business leaders in the east midlands , leaders in the east midlands, including some former conservative backers, that she'll lead the most pro—growth treasury in our country's history . that is, more than 120 history. that is, more than 120 business leaders offer their pubuc business leaders offer their public support to the labour party. in an open letter

published by the times, the leaders say that a new outlook is needed so the uk can break free from a decade of economic stagnation in some of those who've signed the message include the chef tom kerridge, and former ceos of heathrow, jp morgan and aston martin. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts now back to andrew and . bev. andrew and. bev. >> very good morning. 934 stop talking. andrew pierce , you're talking. andrew pierce, you're on the telly. this is britain's newsroom with me and andrew. this morning until midday. >> well, the prime minister has put pensioners at the centre of the general election campaign. so the triple lock will remain. and he's also introducing a mechanism which means the state pension will not be taxed. >> so he's calling it the triple lock. plus, as andrew said, it means the state pension would never be subject to income tax. the prime minister says it'll be

funded by a clampdown on tax dodgers. >> oh, yeah, that that magic money tree which labour has been plundering quite a lot of late. >> well, labour's shadow paymaster general, jonathan ashworth, said rishi sunak is planning to reward britain's pensioners for their loyalty by stabbing them in the back, just like he did to boris johnson. and just like he's done to his own mps. so typically making very little sense. there's a lot of politicians are at the moment. well, joining us now is political commentator benedict spence, the former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire scarlett. do you understand what he's talking about, about the fact that he's going to stab pensioners in the back, not quite. i mean, i you didn't write that line for them. >> did not write that line. no. >> did not write that line. no. >> for him. i mean, i do think that that when rishi sunak sort of accuses keir starmer of naked bids for power and then does this, i mean, you know, what? >> why wouldn't he make a naked bid for power? he's a leader of the opposition. that's his job. >> well, precisely. >> well, precisely. >> there's a general election campaign. >> and if this isn't a bribe, i don't know what is. i mean, it's and also, the other thing is, is

the reason is. but i've forgotten what it's called there. benedict or get me. we'll get it right that because the. but because the income tax thresholds are always the same. yeah. yeah. it hasn't gone up. and that's what it's actually all about is, is that , is that all about is, is that, is that pensions i mean they aren't compared. can i say that compared. can i say that compared to the rest of europe, british pensions are not particularly generous. >> isn't isn't this benedict along with at the weekend this news about national service for young people. it feels like it's just trying to galvanise that grey vote, as it's called the over 6570s vote. that's what they're doing . they're doing. >> oh that's exactly what this is. and even if that's not with an eye on actually winning the general election, i think it's with an eye on getting away voters from the reform party or people who might be tempted to just not come out and vote. it's a way, as you say, to sort of galvanise that cohort, which is very large. it's getting larger every year, and it votes it

votes, you know, far more regularly than younger people do. so it's, you know, as much as i'm not particularly in favour of these policies, it's not the stupidest tactic if i've ever heard of. but it puts the pressure now on labour, who've already said they will keep the triple lock, which i suspect they didn't want to. >> they now have to say, well, they keep triple lock plus and look, pensioners have got a private pension. they're still be taxed if they're earning a certain amount of money, but it's clever politics isn't it. >> well exactly. i mean this was always going to be the thing was, with such a significant lead in the polls, there was going to have to be some sort of pressure applied to keir starmer and thinking back to when theresa may called her general election and she was riding so much higher than jeremy corbyn. and actually what did for her was won, badly framed policy. how am i going to pay for something this is how i'm going to pay for it. nothing necessarily wrong on the face of that, but it, you know, really upset a lot of people because it was an honest dementia tax. yes, it was an honest attempt to actually fund something. and people went, i don't like the sound of that very much. whereas obviously here what we're having is labour saying all cautiously,

cautiously, we're not going to be spending too much. there's no magic money tree in the tories going, we're going to do this, this and this. and of course that. labour has to go, oh, well, yes. okay, we'll match you on this. at which point people will then turn around and go, well, hang on a second. i thought there was no magic money tree. where's it going to come from? and then the tories will say, same old labour. they're finding money that doesn't exist. >> bennett's got a point. i mean, theresa may brought that to mentch tax out from nowhere dunng to mentch tax out from nowhere during that election campaign and that sort of policy. you need to prepare people for it, prepare the ground for it. and it was withdrawn within a week. but the triple lock plus is quite straightforward and it's and it will be popular with pensioners and people who are about to become pensioners. >> yeah. no it will. but the question about for pensioners is a lot of pensioners have children and grandchildren. yeah. and those are people who are not doing very well. and on the other hand, i was reading somewhere that , that the, the somewhere that, that the, the you know, armed forces, everybody having to do national service is a great way of making the young vote. i mean, to come out and go, no, this is not what we want anymore. yeah so actually, it's i mean, i think

it's on the one hand, on the other, will it make that much difference to pensioners? i mean, i think most, the pensioners this will make a difference to are the people who only live on their pension. right. the poor pensioners. yeah. right, the rich pensioners , it will still be like the king. >> like the king? >> like the king? >> well, well, like the king, but also like like like a lot of people with with private pensions. >> but i think what they've done with these two policies, we'll talk a bit about national service and then the pension the tories had such a rocky, terrible start to the campaign. they brought this stuff. i wonder if they brought it forward to get back on the front foot, because at the moment all we're talking about are the tories. we're not talking about laboun >> yeah, but we're not talking about them very nicely, are we? >> i mean, you never talk about them in your dna, but in a way that's what labour talk nicely about. >> labour. yeah. >> labour. yeah. >> but in a way that's what labour want isn't it. they don't really want us talking about them. they've stayed under the radar. they've stayed under the radar. they've stayed under the radar for the last 12 months. not saying anything controversial. rachel reeves is talking this morning and we'll

see what she has. so looking forward to that, let's talk about this private, national service initiative that was launched. we haven't been on air since this came out friday, saturday. and at first i had a moment when i thought, oh, brilliant. so this is just kind of priming this next generation. just prepare yourself that you might have to go to war and something's on the horizon. you look at the detail of it. it is pathetic. benedict, because it's saying if you if you get through certain criteria , as in you're certain criteria, as in you're not overweight and probably you're fit enough, you can do a yearin you're fit enough, you can do a year in the military, which you can do anyway. you can join the tier , you can do a year in the tier, you can do a year in the military if you want to. anyway. if you don't want to do that, then you can spend one weekend a month helping your local community. you can do that anyway, and there's going to be no way that this is mandated. what an utterly pointless headune what an utterly pointless headline grabber. >> it's been very hastily rushed out, i have to say. you know, there are arguments for and against national service, but this has not been framed in a very good way, not national service. it's not. and we've had mixed messages. will you go to prison if you don't do it? will you not actually, you know, different people saying different people saying different things. you know, this is a very far cry from what they

have in israel or south korea, for example, which if you're trying to well, if you're trying to spin the idea as we've had sort of drip fed to us for a couple of months now, that there aren't enough people for the armed forces, we could be in a land war with russia, which, let's be clear, is not going to happen. but that's the sort of thing that we're, you know, being constantly told this is a sort of a way, i suppose, if you like, of the government turning around to people and saying, okay, well, we can't actually afford to spend everything that we want to on defence, but here's a really good way of convincing people that we are. but there's another aspect to this as well. and that is, of course, because we're talking just then about pensions and the negative response that there has been to, but predominantly from the media and from young people, we're not actually really heanng we're not actually really hearing what the average pensioner thinks, because a lot of them aren't on twitter and they don't write for the times. but, you know, this is about sort of selling an image to these older people. and one of these older people. and one of the things, well, two of the things actually that majorly concerned them is one, the perceived fecklessness of the young, which is very unfair , and young, which is very unfair, and the other is immigration and the idea of a lack of integration . idea of a lack of integration. well, what does this do? it gives young people a purpose, and it also means that we can coalesce around a national identity. what it's doing is it's acknowledging that there

are problems around things like youth unemployment, youth mental health, but also immigration. it's saying, yes, these things are a problem, but we're not actually going to give you a solution to that. we're going to give you something that gives the facade of, we're attacking . the facade of, we're attacking. >> i'm excited to give you, if i'd been pitching this policy and i can smell a policy when it's been rushed out in a hurry. yes, but i would have pitched it more on not the national service, which would only apply to up to 30,000 youngsters, which is a drop in the ocean , a which is a drop in the ocean, a drop in the ocean. i would have emphasised it on the weekend and month every month to try and get them more involved, in which i think we'll be applauded by a lot of people. what i can't see though, is how they're going to enforce it, because if you've got a saturday and sunday job, how do you do that weekend? voluntary work? and what if they refuse to do the voluntary work? but what? it's not a bad idea, is it, scarlett, to try to get people, particularly if they're in, not in work, not in education, not in training, the so—called neets to get them to get off their backside and do something decent in the community. >> well, i wouldn't say off their backside. why not? because i think it's really, really tough actually being a neat

right . and but i absolutely right. and but i absolutely agree that we have to do something about neets and what they need. what they need is , they need. what they need is, is, is skilling. they need something to get them out of the house. they need a they they need a reason. i mean, you're absolutely right that this is that this is a half baked idea. i mean, actually, david cameron had the big society and very similar to and then that was lasted about two days, i know. and gordon gordon brown talked about it. i mean, it's not a particularly new idea that that actually sort of 16 to 18 year olds should be doing something . olds should be doing something. and, and actually, you know, when i was young , a lot of when i was young, a lot of people did vso the whole problem is, is, of course, you know, what do you want to do? and, and where. but you know, what else do we do. >> do you know what else this has done? and it makes me so angry because i've got three teenagers in my house. and you know what they all said over the weekend? we are now worried that we're going to be sent to war. we've got a teenage mental health problem, and what they've doneis health problem, and what they've done is they've seen headlines, they've seen tiktok saying

national service. so you've just impacted more anxiety on these kids. why they just throw it out. yeah. but they just throw it out there without thinking about the implications of this for the mental health of teenagers who were already terrified to go out of their doors every day for all sorts of reasons. so i think it's hideous. but they're not the only party that's not being kind to children, because this private schools tax benedict is also going to punish children. it's going to punish the children of parents who are working hard to send their children to private school because they can no longer afford it after this. and it's going to punish the children in the state system, because we might have 155,000 children going into the state system from january. >> well, exact job. it's destruction for the sake of destruction. and there's this idea that what it will do is it'll target the super rich or the target, you know, the super rich will pay their way. super. the super rich don't care for a start about that sort of money and impact on eton admissions? not at all. and it must be said, the bursaries . there's sort of a the bursaries. there's sort of a hilarity about this, which the one hand, we've got people saying about, you know, private schools, public schools, you have to, you know, charge this

levy on them. you have to make them pay vat , which, by the way, them pay vat, which, by the way, would make us unique in europe for actually charging vat on that form of education. nobody else thinks it's a good idea. nobody else does it. but at the same time, you're saying you can destroy, you know, part of the fabnc destroy, you know, part of the fabric of our education system because it's private schools. but third rate universities? oh, they absolutely have to be protected. there can be no suggestion about letting universities go to the wall or anything like that. and so we've got this sort of double standard where on the one hand you've got higher education, must be protected at all costs. doesn't matter how much debt. you know, young people accrue, how much it's used by third rate universities effectively as a visa factory to, you know, bring in overseas students who can then stay and work. but actually, this part of our education system that does work really well. and i know people say that it's unfair. i'm sorry, i understand that it is, but actually our society relies on it very much so. but that's just how it is. >> let's hear scarlett mccgwire put on her cap. green cap of envy. because this is the politics of envy. it is the it is the worst sort of politics of envy. can i say that there are a lot of really, really good state schools? >> we do not rely not enough. we do not we? there are masses of

really good state schools. we do not rely on private schools to keep britain together. and it's actually boring . vie well known actually boring. vie well known that if you're at university, right? it's the it's the state school kids that get that get the top grades. i mean, that's just that's just empirically not true. >> it is empirically tell you what is empirically with this issue . scarlet, you look with issue. scarlet, you look with your eyes. if you look in the eyes of the labour politicians who are talking about this, you see, they're mask slip. >> oh, and there's a lot of things that bev phillips holac i like enormously. >> hang on. i like a lot of what she says about education. and then you see her talking about this, and you can just see that smug satisfaction that the hard working doctors probably know her rather lawyers. fine. that's absolutely irrelevant. don't make it personal. you've made it. no, i haven't made it personal. >> just to remind me. she's the shadow education secretary. she is the shadow education secretary. >> and what this is about is saying that we're no longer going to give tax breaks to private schools because they're businesses, right? but that's not for them.

>> but it's not. but it's a tax break. it's on the parents. it's not the owners of those schools. >> no. because actually actually private schools have been putting up their their fees way above inflation, right, for the last ten, 15 years. and it's barely affected how i mean, i most middle class parents can no longer afford to send their kids to private school , so there's no to private school, so there's no chance now. and what labour get in. they don't have to put it all on the fees, right? i mean, i mean state schools have been managing with smaller and smaller budgets . private schools smaller budgets. private schools can actually start managing it as well . but that's instead of as well. but that's instead of putting it on their fees. >> scarlet. that's not what's going to happen. what will happen? what's going to happen is you're going to bursaries will stop. you're going to have private schools are going to close down. yeah. and there will be all of these kids are going to have to go into the state system. it takes a long time to build a state school. it's not the kind of thing you can do overnight. and there's no provision for it. and what's the ideology behind the ideology behind it is we are going to penalise hard working people. >> no, we are not penalising

hard working people are an awful lot of hard working people who send their kids to state schools. and what we want to do is we want to put the money into the state schools, where 93% of the state schools, where 93% of the children in this in this country go, while punishing the children who are at private school. >> and a lot of those children, those fees are supported by pensioners and grandparents. >> we are going to have to go for a quick break. benedict spence scarlett mccgwire i'm sure there'll be more of this coming up. we'll talk about the dreadful carol vorderman, who says she was pushed out of the bbc because she wasn't allowed

tv and radio presenter carol vorderman. she's whingeing about what she calls tories at the top of the bbc. i don't remember seeing any of those who got rid of her, carol vorderman, of course. now presents on a commercial radio station as she says, she's absolutely loving the freedom and that the bbc social media guidelines try to restrict people's private lives. >> so the former bbc executive

and presenter roger bolton joins us.rogeni and presenter roger bolton joins us. roger, i thought she would have understood. when you work at the bbc, presenting a show as she was on radio wales, whether it's radio wales or radio one, it's radio wales or radio one, it is important that presenters are impartial. now. i appreciate gary lineker takes no notice of that edict, but she, i thought would understand it . would understand it. >> i would have thought so. by the way, there are tories at the top of the bbc. the director general is a former conservative candidate, i think, and was on the council and etc. etc. etc. but he's a minority. >> let's be honest, roger, tim davie is not typical of the mindset of most people at the bbc. >> that is certainly your view . >> that is certainly your view. now as regards carol vorderman, i mean, yes, you should have known . i mean, this is very known. i mean, this is very difficult. you know, if the bbc gets rid of carol vorderman, it's down for stopping free speech. if it doesn't , it lets speech. if it doesn't, it lets her speak and whatever it gets down for being left wing and so on. so it's, it's tried to produce guidelines which said that people in news and current affairs shouldn't express their views at all, and also people

presenting major shows match of the day, people who think who appear to be speaking, you know, the figureheads of the bbc. they shouldn't either. but on the other hand, there is a real issue here about freedom of speech. if you've got somebody who's a freelance broadcaster, who's a freelance broadcaster, who's doing lots of other things are they to be silent in the rest of their life because they present a programme on the bbc? so it's difficult. it's a difficult area. but i mean, i think what carol is, is clearly a campaigner and fine. she's good. maybe she should come on your show and present one of your show and present one of your programmes. but she's got a programme, she's got a book coming out in the autumn which is called out of order. what's gone wrong with britain? and one woman's mission to fix it? well, fine. but she can't pretend she's not participating in the political debate, can't she? >> and you can't. and the point is, roger, you can't have it both ways. if you're on the bbc, it's a very special and unique position to be on the bbc. funded by the licence fee, i.e. the taxpayer . the taxpayer. >> well, it is, but as i tried to say, free speech is a real issue, which i know you care about genuinely. so you can't

say because andrew pierce is now going to be given a job in the bbc one day a week. he should shut up for six days a week or the same with you, ben. it's a really difficult issue. but on the other hand, well, i mean, you know, ask them. they're a bit short of some talent in some areas in my view. but anyway, but if you're current affairs of course, or news you shouldn't and so it's in that difficult area. social media has presented area. social media has presented a raft of problems that nobody thought, do you think 30 years? but do you think so? >> do you think that if you're, say, an entertainment presenter on the bbc or a sports presenter on the bbc or a sports presenter on the bbc or a sports presenter on the bbc, you should be held to different standards in terms of what you can and can't say on social media than the news team , social media than the news team, i think so, although i think if you're something like gary lineker , where you're there lineker, where you're there every week and people do see you, even though you do other things and work for other broadcasters as the face of the bbc, then you've got to be concerned about the way in people will will regard the bbc. >> you're not helping the bbc if people look at you and think, oh, well, you're a lefty and or right or whatever you are, and therefore you're typical of the

bbc in the bbc is hard enough job in the present climate to persuade people that it tries to be, tries to be as objective as possible. so i think those people have paid a lot of money by the bbc ought to bear that in mind. equally it would be a monstrous invasion of free speech if because you, as i say, or even me, unlikely were employed one day a week to the bbc, we had to shut up about everything for six days because we couldn't shut up for six hours. >> roger, no, but she's quite funny, you know. >> no, we're talking about beth . >> no, we're talking about beth. >> no, we're talking about beth. >> i've always liked. i've always liked carol vorderman. before this, i thought, you know what? she's a strong woman. she's a smart woman. she's pushed her way forward in life. she's done very, very well. she's done very, very well. she's reinvented on occasions. my she's reinvented on occasions. my particular issue with carol vorderman is she kept quiet dunng vorderman is she kept quiet during a time in which celebrities balancing the narrative were very much needed. and i mean, during the pandemic , and i mean, during the pandemic, she kept her head down. she towed the narrative line. she didn't ever upset anybody. and

then suddenly she's now coming out and criticising sunak, criticising everyone during the pandemic . and i'm like, where pandemic. and i'm like, where were you for those two years? you just very much did what the establishment capitalist wanted, and she's doing the same again now because she's teeing herself up for a job in the labour party i >> -- >> well, there are lots of establishments around, aren't there? you may probably be part of one. you know, you have the privilege of broadcasting because you're part of the broadcasting establishment. listen, i have a bet with you. in two years time, i bet you before then, probably. but in two years time, carol vorderman will be attacking the next government, which is probably going to be labour. very hard indeed. so in two years time, if i'm still around, ask me back and let's check. >> okay. all right. roger. thank you.so >> okay. all right. roger. thank you. so much. she blocked me on twitter recently. carol. well, that's sebby's corner i've had my twitter account hacked, by the way. >> so if you do follow me on twitter, i am not, as it suggests on twitter now saying, andrew pierce has seen the light in his urging people to vote labour because i'm not urging people to vote. labour shouldn't laugh. >> oh, i shouldn't laugh. but just to feed will be back soon. >> but not just yet. >> but not just yet.

>> so you were hacked? i was you were scammed. yeah. and the first thing they did once they got into andrew's x or twitter account was to say vote labour. everybody. >> and i can tell you keir starmer will be furious because he won't want people thinking, oh, keir starmer sold out so much. even andrew pierce now supports him, so i don't. now we must read this statement from the bbc. la vorderman, the bbc publishes published its new social media guidelines in september, which strike a balance between the beeb's commitment to impartiality and freedom of expression. >> they go on to say the guidance sets out clear expectations for freelancers, which includes a particular responsibility to uphold civility in public discourse . civility in public discourse. >> but let's go to our panel. we've got piers pottinger, who's maths minded many tory election campaigns and our veteran here, nigel, what's your name? >> whatever i am just a new labour voter. >> talking of nigel's, can we just say we're waiting, aren't we, nigel? >> because nigel nigel farage speech and rachel reeves made a speech. >> piers, you've worked with thatcher and major and all sorts marks out of ten so far for the tory campaign. after that

incredibly wobbly start singing incredibly wobbly start singing in the rain as we talked about the other day. >> well, i think it's very interesting because i think some of the policy announcements have been really rather effective. right. and it shows that the conservatives have finally woken up to what the voters want, which is the end of wokery. but unfortunately , rishi still going unfortunately, rishi still going around the country trying to connect with the people, which he's not very good at, and he does seem terribly on his own. they don't seem to be a lot of other figures in the conservative. well, they're mostly standing down at the next election, and i think it's so it's a bit of both. but the point is that when they're making these punchy, detailed announcements, unlike starmer, who yesterday we got at lancing, which is most famous for lancing college, rather ironically. yeah. as someone who wants to basically crucify the public school sector and starmer did his i'm just a poor boy from a poor family. bohemian rhapsody

or lancing rhapsody routine and there's no substance. and he keeps saying, you know, i want to i, you know, and he produces all these utopian things like, everyone's going to have an excellent teacher and we're going to save the nhs. but he hasn't explained how and he i think he is actually looking weaker and weaker and if rishi is good at anything, it is arguing intelligently about policy. so i think these television debates, normally i'm not in favour of television debates in an election. i believe in the value of genuine democracy. elections shouldn't normally be decided by big debates, as in america, but i think if starmer dares to be probably face to face with rishi in a public on television, in a pubuc in a public on television, in a public debate about the real policies, and rishi will do very well indeed. what he's not good at is sitting around in pubs

sort of trying to be man of the people rubbing shoulders. >> mark out of ten, would you give the tory campaign so far? >> i'd give it zero in terms of some aspects and ten in terms of others, because some of the announcements have been punchy, they've wrong footed the labour party completely. the national service one came right out of the blue and it is actually proved much more popular than people thought , i think, and people thought, i think, and i think it would be better if they'd pitched more of it on the kids doing stuff. >> voluntary work at weekend. absolutely. nigel a terrible start in the rain. we don't need to talk about that, but what do you how would you assess labour's campaign? is it what we call the ming vase strategy? he's walking on with a ming vase . got to be really careful. really cautious in case he drops it. which is why he's not saying anything interesting. well, steady as she goes. and hope the tories are so far behind. >> i think there have been interesting things, but the when you're, when you're talking about marks, i think i would give the tories two. i'm rather more than, than piers wood . for more than, than piers wood. for

their campaign. labour is 6 or 7 which will go up when we get to the detail of economic policy. that's the detail. well, we should do in the manifesto . so should do in the manifesto. so at the moment i think that. >> haven't they announced it all already . already. >> well no they haven't, they haven't really announced it all already. i mean i think you need you need some detail around great british energy. how that will improve growth, the, the fact they've announced it's going to cost. well, well we know it's going to cost 8 billion for the actual company, but there'll be private investment in that. bear in mind they've lost the 28 billion that they've lost the 28 billion that they were going to invest in it. and so he's going to have to explain how you get to the various bits, you know, double ing onshore wind tripling solar, quadrupling offshore wind, how you will get there without that money, i'd expect to see that in the manifesto. >> what do you make of this private school tax policy, nigel, in terms of what it tells us about the labour party's ideology? >> well, if it comes to an ideological thing, i think people have the right to spend

their money as they choose. i don't think that the taxpayer should be subsidising that choice. so that's the ideology out of the way. >> hang on. but that doesn't quite explain it, because at the moment, the private school parents are subsidising the state system by taking their children out of it. >> yes, but they're also making a choice to actually put their kids in private school. and that choice is being subsidised by the general taxpayer. so it's the general taxpayer. so it's the other way around. >> it's not in the same way that private health care takes the pressure off the nhs. yeah, private schools have taken the pressure off the state. private health care is another one. >> i don't object to people actually having private health care, but that is not subsidised by the taxpayer. >> pierce, what do you make of the policy? because i think labour seats thought it was a huge vote winner. we've seen the front page of the mail today. no.hang front page of the mail today. no. hang on. we're going to come back to it. okay we're going live to dover because, nigel farage is speaking. >> this is like the launch of its a reform press conference, nigel farage here he is that you

might as well put a big sign on the white cliffs of dover saying, everyone welcome , saying, everyone welcome, because we'd stopped deporting people who'd arrived in our country illegally. >> and it's quite a thought that in the last year of the labour government leading up to 2010, 45,000 people who came to britain illegally had been deported. but we given up on that. so i said that i thought unless something dramatic was done , that there would be an done, that there would be an invasion. now, of course, for using that word, i was called all the names under the sun , but all the names under the sun, but 3800 boats later , 125,000 people 3800 boats later, 125,000 people later . you can use whatever word later. you can use whatever word you want. i happen to think that invasion, frankly, was pretty appropriate . so i've campaigned appropriate. so i've campaigned hard on this issue throughout this four year period. and i'm going to say to you, frankly, i was ahead of the curve on this. i was right. and that's kind of what i've done in my career. i'm an issues campaigner above all.

so nobody was talking about it when i started. but you're all talking about it now and it's worth bearing in mind that 86% of those that come are male and nearly all of them under the age of 40, most under the age of 30, unsurprising hinckley. it's led to a very big national debate . to a very big national debate. people see the unfairness of it. they say, how can it be that we're on social housing waiting lists for a year, perhaps two years, when these people that come illegally are put straight into four star hotels? or if not that, private accommodation, how can it be that those that come have access to dental care when we can't get an nhs dentist? and i think the fact that the hotels alone are costing over £7 million a day makes people pretty upset. those that have come into the country legally aren't very happy about it ehhen aren't very happy about it either, because they've gone

through costs , time and hoops to through costs, time and hoops to be in the country. the right way. but it's the other element of this that i want to focus on today. frankly i think this is very dangerous. you only have to look at what's happened in sweden, in cities like malmo, to see that a large influx of young males coming from an entirely different culture, and certainly coming from a culture in which women are not even regarded as second class citizens , is has second class citizens, is has had, frankly, disastrous social effects. but since the events of october the 7th and what has happenedin october the 7th and what has happened in gaza and increased radicalisation in the middle east, this is even more of a problem. you see these young men that come and i've actually filmed this . i've filmed on the filmed this. i've filmed on the 12 mile median line , people 12 mile median line, people throwing their iphones into the

sea, throwing their passports into the sea, doing everything they can so that we can't track and identify them. although it's okay because they get an iphone, a new one within 24 hours of arrival . but i a new one within 24 hours of arrival. but i think this is a national security issue. now, if you think i'm being over the top, let's have a think about our friend donald tusk, who i did battle with in the european parliament many times, very much an eu lovey . now, of course, the an eu lovey. now, of course, the prime minister of poland, he has talked about the wave of and i'm using his words not mine. aggressive young males that are coming into poland, having crossed the mediterranean. and he has said that this is now a matter of national security for poland. well, i put it to you that if it's a matter of national security and poland, i think what we ought to be doing with this situation here is declaring a national security emergency. and this is an emergency. and this is an

emergency. i talked over the course of the weekend to trevor phillips about the small but worryingly growing number of young men, predominantly young men, in this country , adopting men, in this country, adopting radical views, views that aren't just un—british but views that, frankly, are extremely anti—british. we saw the recent local elections candidates being elected in inner city districts in leeds, in burnley and elsewhere. we saw the aggression and you might have noticed that angela rayner yesterday was campaigning in her constituency, begging, begging a group of muslim leaders to please vote laboun muslim leaders to please vote labour. you'll have noticed not a single woman in the room . so a single woman in the room. so we're moving into an age in our inner cities and towns, i'm afraid. i'm worried to say , of afraid. i'm worried to say, of sectarian politics with women completely excluded. i have to

say that the rwanda policy is something that was plucked out of the air by a desperate conservative government, launched just down the coast at lydd airport two years and one month ago, and rishi sunak, of course, has inherited that from bofis course, has inherited that from boris johnson and keeps making promises that planes will go to rwanda. i am absolutely convinced that the overriding reason for calling a snap early general election is because he knows those planes. in july , as knows those planes. in july, as he promised, would not be going to rwanda . they weren't going to to rwanda. they weren't going to go. rishi can't stop the boats and he can't stop the boats for the very same reason that the first aeroplane that was on the tarmac and ready to go was stopped . if you remember, by a stopped. if you remember, by a judgement from a single so—called judge , i say so—called so—called judge, i say so—called because most of the judges in the european court of human rights haven't actually been

legally trained. they're jurists, which is a very odd european concept, at least to us. and he knows that it won't happen. he knows that despite everything that they put in the legislation, which supplies articles two and three of the human rights act 1998, he knows that an international treaty goes over, above and beyond that, and planes not going to rwanda would see the failure of what he believes to be his flagship policy . and that's flagship policy. and that's where the other r comes in. that's where the reform vote, he feared, would have gone a lot higher. so i genuinely believe that's the reason why we've got this early general election. the conservative policy on rwanda does does not work. we are, i'm afraid , in a situation where our afraid, in a situation where our leaders do not have courage to do different . as for the labour do different. as for the labour policy, well, frankly, it is a joke . they haven't got a policy. joke. they haven't got a policy. they say get tough on the criminal gangs. we've been saying for decades in this

country that we would get tough on the criminal drugs, gangs , on the criminal drugs, gangs, but has has that made any difference to the supply of illegal substances? far from it. in fact, they're being consumed today by more people and in greater quantities than ever before . those gangs over there before. those gangs over there on the other side, and we're talking about some very ruthless people, some very dangerous people. those gangs are on the other side could make 2 to ,3 million a week during the months of june, july, august, september. if we get a clear spell. >> this is nigel farage you're listening to. of course. he's honorary president of reform uk. speaking in dover, price , he's speaking in dover, price, he's not running and we're going to see rachel reeves, a shadow chancellor she's speaking to. so they're all out and about today. but we're going to stick with nigel farage. >> of course they've got the same branding haven't they. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> who isn't of course. right. running for office in at all. he's decided not to do that. isn't he. in a statement to talk about how important it was that he engaged with america. >> yeah, right. we're going to

go back to farage and we will go and hear what rachel reeves has to say in just a moment. >> with it or not, it was about restoring sovereignty . it was restoring sovereignty. it was about being in control. and there is no doubt that the issue that pushed the turnout up in 2016 to numbers that nobody anticipated was the issue of immigration, mostly actually legal immigration. but we'll talk much more about that later on this week to brexit voters. what is happening in the english channelis what is happening in the english channel is a serious affront . channel is a serious affront. and they see, frankly, us allowing it to continue as being allowing it to continue as being a betrayal of what they voted for in the referendum , so from for in the referendum, so from nigel farage, we will look at what he said later. but here's rachel reeves . rachel reeves. >> we can't hear. >> we can't hear. >> is today the natural party of

british business and i want to set out the central economic fault line in this election. the choice before the british people on the 4th of july, five more years of chaos with the conservative party leaving working people worse off or stability with a changed labour party . i can stability with a changed labour party. i can tell you stability with a changed labour party . i can tell you exactly party. i can tell you exactly what rishi sunak wants you to think on polling day. he's already saying it that the plan is working. don't change course now that the chaos and instability wrought by liz truss was just a blip, that the deep problems that we face are down to global events. they are not his fault at all. don't judge us on. don't judge. 14 years on 49 days he will say , i want to take days he will say, i want to take that head on. because while it is true that the crises we have faced are global in origin, our unique exposure to those crises,

the reason that we have been harder hit than many comparable countries by the economic impact of covid, and then by inflation and rising energy prices , is can and rising energy prices, is can only be explained by the choices made by conservative governments here at home. and because while the prime minister wants this election to be about whether inflation is coming down this month , he omits to mention when month, he omits to mention when it started to rise on his watch as chancellor , even before the as chancellor, even before the conservatives, in their clamour to cut taxes for those at the very top, sent interest rates and mortgage costs spiralling . and mortgage costs spiralling. he omits to mention, when it peaked to on his watch as prime minister and he omits to mention the families and the businesses deaung the families and the businesses dealing with the consequences of conservative economic mismanagement. today like the family i met in redcar, the dad

doing an apprenticeship, the mum working in a supermarket poet who spent every evening talking about money because there's simply not enough to pay the bills, or the small business owner in milton keynes desperate to expand. but faced with a system of business rates that are stacked against her or just are stacked against her orjust down the road from here, the workers at alstom, some of whom i met just a few months ago , who i met just a few months ago, who are facing the uncertainty that results when a government is unwilling to take a long term strategic approach in partnership with business and trade unions , the only trade unions, the only responsible approach to economic policy the conservatives are insulting the intelligence of millions of people like these , millions of people like these, forced to deal with the consequences of their failure . consequences of their failure. but we won't let them get away with it , because the with it, because the

conservatives do deserve to be judged on their record of those 14 years, the general election in five weeks time is a chance for the british people to pass judgement on 14 years of economic chaos and decline under the conservative party, 14 years that have seen taxes reach a 70 year high national debt, more than double, and the typical homeowner remortgaging this year paying homeowner remortgaging this year paying £240 more. a month after the disastrous mini—budget, wages flat , public services on wages flat, public services on their knees , taxpayers being their knees, taxpayers being asked to pay more and more , and asked to pay more and more, and yet getting less and less in return . five prime ministers, return. five prime ministers, seven chancellors, 12 plans for growth each delivering less than the last. to put it in perspective, if our economy had

have grown at the average rate of oecd countries these last 14 years, our economy today would be £150 billion larger, worth £5,000 for every household and providing £55 billion more investment for our public services . that investment for our public services. that is their investment for our public services . that is their record services. that is their record and they deserve to be judged on it. the conservatives have failed on the economy, the plan isn't working and rishi sunak decision to call a snap general election is the clearest sign of that. election is the clearest sign of that . if he doesn't believe that that. if he doesn't believe that his plan is working, why should you ? and no matter how much they you? and no matter how much they tell us that liz truss was nothing to do with them, their every action speaks otherwise they haven't learned their lessons. they're singing from

the same songbook with a prime minister's priorities dissolving into thin air. what is his last desperate throw of the dice? not to deliver on the promises that he's made over the last two years, but instead to offer up £64 billion worth of unfunded tax cuts. they offered up just another one last night, and the conservatives cannot say how they're going to pay for them. what cuts will they make to pubuc what cuts will they make to public services? what other taxes will they increase or will they fund it through yet more government borrowing ? and why government borrowing? and why should anyone believe them after ? and i'll say it again the tax burden has reached a 70 year high under the conservatives be in no doubt the single biggest risk to our economy today is five more years of conservative chaos and decline . my ambitions

chaos and decline. my ambitions for britain are so much greater than that. i don't think we need fantasy economics to look and hope for a better future. just look around us. but we do need change. under keir's leadership, we have changed the labour party so that we might have the chance to change our country for the better , and to offer better, and to offer a government that is pro—worker and pro—business in the knowledge that each depends upon the success of the other . a the success of the other. a party that understands business, that works with business. i'm not one of those politicians that thinks that the private sector is a dirty word, or a necessary evil . i worked in the necessary evil. i worked in the private sector before entering politics. i worked in financial services in west yorkshire. i know what a successful business can do for places like those and

i know that economic growth comes from success of business large, medium and small. indeed there is no other way. i'm not talking about the old trickle down free market dogma of the past , but down free market dogma of the past, but instead a new spirit of partnership between government and business, an approach fit for a more uncertain world. i know that there is no policy that i can announce , no plan that can be announce, no plan that can be drawn up in whitehall, announce, no plan that can be drawn up in whitehall , that drawn up in whitehall, that cannot be improved through engagement with business, and our manifesto will bear the imprint of that engagement. i want to lead the most pro growth, the most pro—business treasury that our country has ever seen, with a laser focus on delivering for working people. today more than 120 senior business leaders have signed a letter expressing their support

for a labour government across the world of business, labour is being recognised as the natural partner of business. the party of growth and the party of enterprise . a few years ago, you enterprise. a few years ago, you might not have expected to have heard these things from the labour party . think how far we labour party. think how far we have come under keir's leadership in four short years . leadership in four short years. if we can change this party to bnng if we can change this party to bring it back in the service of working people, if we can return it to the centre ground of politics, if we can bring business back to labour, then i know that we can bring business back to britain, to bring investment back to britain, to bnng investment back to britain, to bring growth back to britain, to bnng bring growth back to britain, to bring hope back to britain. because by bringing business back to britain, we can deliver a better future for working people. whatever ideologues on

the left or the right say, it's not either or. this labour party understands that business success is crucial to good jobs , success is crucial to good jobs, and good work is crucial for successful businesses. it is by bringing business back to britain that we can create good jobs that pay a decent wage, bnngin jobs that pay a decent wage, bring in investment to build strong communities with thriving high streets , to put more money high streets, to put more money in people's pockets and take pride in goods and services made here in britain but exported around the world. our plans for growth are built on partnership with business. a mission led government prepared to take on the big challenges that we face and ready to seize the opportunity of the future and the government that will build all its plans for the future. on

the bedrock of economic stability . it is clearer than stability. it is clearer than ever that it, at this election, the choice is between tory chaos and labour stability and stability is change. stability so that we never again see a repeat of the mini—budget and the damage it did to families stability, so that families and businesses can plan for the future. stability of direction, so we can bring together government, business and working people in common purpose to meet the great challenges of our time . that will be underpinned by robust fiscal rules to get debt falling by the end of the parliament. i will never play fast and loose with the public finances because when you do so, you put family finances at risk. we have started as we mean to go

on. i have been very clear that every policy that we announce, every policy that we announce, every line in our manifesto will be fully costed and fully funded. no ifs , no ands, no buts funded. no ifs, no ands, no buts . that is the attitude that i will take into the treasury , will take into the treasury, because taxpayers money should because taxpayers money should be spent with the same care with which people spend their own money. i remember when i was growing up, my mum would sit at the kitchen table, combing over line by line , her bank line by line, her bank statements and her receipts . we statements and her receipts. we weren't badly off, but we didn't have money to spare. so my mum every penny mattered. and believe me, i understand that the basic test for whoever is chancellor is to bring that attitude to our public finances and stability will rest, as it

always has done . when britain always has done. when britain has enjoyed economic success on strong institutions. i started my career as an economist at the bank of england . i know why the bank of england. i know why the stability that it brings and the independence from short term politics matter to economic success and the battle against inflation. so labour will not play. i will not play the tory game of undermining the treasury or the bank of england. and i will introduce a new fiscal lock so that any government making significant and permanent changes to tax and spending will be subject to a forecast from the independent office for budget responsibility. so that there is never a repeat of the mini—budget stability must mean something else too, and it's something else too, and it's something that i've heard from business time and again about how important this is.

business time and again about how important this is . certainty how important this is. certainty in our tax system , which is why in our tax system, which is why we have committed to the publication of a business tax roadmap covering the duration of the parliament within the first six months of a labour government. and it is why corporation tax will be capped at its current rate for the duration of the next parliament. thatis duration of the next parliament. that is the lowest rate among g7 economies and should our competitiveness come under threat, we will act. stability will be the bedrock of everything that we do . but everything that we do. but stability alone is not enough . stability alone is not enough. it is one central part of what i call secure genomics, a new approach which recognises that our age of insecurity requires new answers to new economic challenges . so stability must challenges. so stability must stand alongside a plan to fix our weak levels of investment . our weak levels of investment. britain today is the only g7

country with investments below 20% of gdp. i am not under the illusion that government can fix this alone. the lifeblood of a successful economy is business investment . so investment will investment. so investment will be delivered through a new partnership between government and business, embodied in a new industrial strategy and in a new national wealth fund, with government investing to crowd in tens of billions of pounds of private investment to create the jobs of the future, drive down bills and achieve energy independence for britain . and we independence for britain. and we will need reform to no more ducking the difficult decisions. no more shrinking from vested interests. no more accepting that this is as good as it gets. so we will reform our politics. pushing power out of westminster so our local and regional

leaders can deliver for their areas. we will reform our skills system to give working people the chance to succeed in a changing world of work. replacing the apprenticeship levy with a new jobs and growth levy. we will reform our planning system , taking head on planning system, taking head on the biggest obstacle to growth and investment that we face, and get britain building again. we will deliver reform with security in work, with a new deal for working people, and we will forge a closer relationship with our nearest neighbours in the european union to ease the burden of bureaucracy and red tape on british businesses, including a new veterinary agreement , including a new veterinary agreement, an agreement on touring visas and the mutual recognition of professional qualifications , stability, qualifications, stability, investment , joint reform . you

investment, joint reform. you are going to hear those three words a lot from me because they are the ingredients of a genuine plan for the future, an alternative to manage decline. the reason that i can say with confidence that this labour party is the natural party of british business, the choice at the next election is simple. five more years of the vicious cycle of chaos and decline which the conservatives have set in motion, or a changed labour party putting stability first in the service of working people . the service of working people. we will fight this election on the economy every day. we will expose the damage that the conservatives have done and the further damage that they threaten to do, and we will set out labour's alternative five missions for a decade of

national renewal and six first steps to point the way to a better britain . cutting nhs better britain. cutting nhs waiting times with 40,000 new appointments every single week , appointments every single week, launching a new border security command to smash the criminal gangs and to strengthen our borders . setting up great borders. setting up great british energy, a new publicly owned clean power company cracking down on anti—social behaviour, recruiting 6500 new teachers , all fully costed, all teachers, all fully costed, all fully funded and all those ambitions built on the bedrock of economic stability. the foundation stones for a decade of national renewal . to serve as of national renewal. to serve as chancellor of the exchequer would be the privilege of my life , not to luxuriate in status life, not to luxuriate in status , not as a staging post in a career , but to serve . i know the

career, but to serve. i know the responsibility that will come with that. i embrace it . responsibility that will come with that. i embrace it. i responsibility that will come with that. i embrace it . i know with that. i embrace it. i know that it will not be easy. it will take hard work . it will will take hard work. it will require harder choices . i am require harder choices. i am ready for it . as i travel around ready for it. as i travel around the country, i see great potential wherever i go in dynamic , great british dynamic, great british businesses like this one in labs and classrooms in our world leading universities , and in the leading universities, and in the talent and the effort of working people. it is time to unlock that potential to turn the page on chaos and decline and start a new chapter for britain. labour is ready. thank you .

is ready. thank you. thank you very much. i'm going to take a few questions from the media. now. the first question is from faisal islam from the bbc, thanks. charlie chancellor , bbc, thanks. charlie chancellor, do you, you don't seem to want to match the conservative triple lock plus policy, so it's possible that pensioners under a labour government , on the basic labour government, on the basic state pension would have to pay tax is that because you think it's a bad idea or you'd like to do it? and we don't have the money? and could there be an emergency budget if you win before the summer ? before the summer? >> well, thank you very much for that question, faisal. labour are absolutely committed to the triple lock for pensioners to give them that security, that the basic state pension will continue to rise by whatever is greatest out of inflation, average earnings or 2.5% and we

give that commitment. but today is just another desperate gimmick from the conservatives. even before today, they had racked up £64 billion of unfunded tax cuts. and last night they offered us another one.the night they offered us another one. the only reason that pensioners are looking for the first time at paying income tax on their basic state pension is because the conservatives lost control of the economy, so we're fading out rachel reeves. >> so we're trying to stay awake. nigel nelson piers pottinger is still with us. nigel, you've been a veteran of labour speeches . she had 20 labour speeches. she had 20 minutes. she didn't tell me a single new thing that she would do as chancellor of the exchequer. >> i think you're right. but there were no facts in there. it was what she's doing. i mean , was what she's doing. i mean, this this was the kind of speech where she needs to appeal to business. yeah. that's the thing that she was trying to do today and to repeat mantras. i mean , and to repeat mantras. i mean, this is a this is something we're all going to get fed up with during the election campaign. so we keep hearing the same phrases, she won't play

fast and loose with the economy. the new phrase that bringing business back to labour brings business back to labour brings business back to britain. good slogan. they'll keep hammering that one home. i think we have to excuse politicians for doing that during an election, because that's the way they all do it. i mean, this is not a particular labour thing. this can be the tories do exactly the same thing, we'll constantly hear the plan is working routine from them. so it is just something that happens. we might all get a little bit bored in the next couple of weeks, bored in the next couple of weeks. >> i was bored. ten minutes into the speech, nigel. >> and this is our job and our our inboxes . i was watching the our inboxes. i was watching the comments from you at home. thank you for getting involved . if you for getting involved. if there's any of you still watching, frankly, after listening to that, then applause for sticking with us because so many people are saying they just are frustrated by as as these two are saying that the lack of detail, the lack of information, well , they're scared because if well, they're scared because if they give too much detail away, people won't vote for them. >> the most significant mention

in her whole speech was one small mention of the trade unions. now, of course, it's the trade unions who sit on 13 members of trade unions, sit on the national executive committee of the labour party, and that is the body that actually comes up with the policy and will have to approve the manifesto . so if approve the manifesto. so if they ever produce one of any significance and, you know, it's the likes of mick lynch and his mob who will be running this country if the labour party get in. rachel reeves job is to stand there pretending she loves business. everything's going to be fine. it's going to be she keeps using. we're going to use stability to do things . i'm sorry. >> it doesn't make any word salad nonsense. >> and i mean, it really was so unimpressive and so dull that it does give rishi hope. i mean, i as i've said many times, i don't think rishi has run a good job, has really great political judgement. i don't think he's a good leader of the party, but he's an intelligent man and he's

certainly far more capable of running this economy than rachel reeves ever will be. and as that's ridiculously long, boring , tedious speech showed, no one is interested. and even nigel admits it was dull as dishwater. >> and nigel isn't that mistake. look we remember theresa may. she went into that campaign 22 points ahead, 23 points ahead. now, people didn't want an election. we didn't need it. it was two years after the last one. but she in my view, she surrendered that lead because she they spent five weeks hiding her away. she had nothing interesting to say . they decided interesting to say. they decided they were so far ahead. don't rock the boat . be completely rock the boat. be completely risk averse. she kept repeating same old phrases like strong and stable. you've already what? what is no more 14 years of tory chaos isn't the risk that piers makes that actually start? people will start looking at someone, thinking he's boring, he's got nothing to say. >> well, there's always the risk of that. and that's what i mean abouti of that. and that's what i mean about i think that you kind of get a bit of excitement at the

beginning of a campaign. it then tails off in the middle of it, and people are just saying, well, we've got a bit fed up with this, and then really takes off for the last couple of weeks . so i think you'll, you'll actually, you'll see that. but i mean, when you , when you look at mean, when you, when you look at what theresa may may was doing, you're absolutely right. she was hammering home the same slogans all the time . and it's just what all the time. and it's just what they do. that's the way. i mean, i think that they shouldn't . i i think that they shouldn't. i think they should be a bit more original about clever than the politicians give them credit for. >> they saw through it. >> they saw through it. >> well, they did i mean, also i mean the dementia tax didn't help. it didn't help hugely. that they came up with an absolutely astonishingly lousy manifesto in 2017. and conversely, we got a much better than expected manifesto from jeremy corbyn. so there were a whole host of host of factors around there. and had things had things gone on a bit longer, she could have actually lost. she would have what? >> i mean , what, starmer and his >> i mean, what, starmer and his mob really want to happen is to convince the british public to

sleepwalk into a nightmare, into this election. yeah. foolishly believing these platitudes were getting where underneath. and we've already seen it with the pubuc we've already seen it with the public schools tax that i mean underneath this veneer of we're lovely , friendly, we love lovely, friendly, we love everyone. we're great for business. all this rubbish, underneath, they're old fashioned socialists at heart. don't forget, starmer has not ever revoked his old marxist beliefs. and he is the man who said jeremy corbyn would make a wonderful prime minister. >> he said that he was a socialist and he said today his associates and remember socialists, he said i am a socialists, he said i am a socialist socialist sharing ownership of the means of production equally would increase people's quality. >> so she does want to give people free access to basic life necessities like food. you can have free food under keir starmer . starmer. >> but he also said on television last night he said i'm a socialist and then paused and said a progressive, as if he immediately didn't want to upset our viewers. >> our viewers and our listeners are so smart because when rachel reeves said then she wants to

encourage a new spirit of partnership with business, our viewers say, what kind of business are you talking about? the big business. are you talking about corporate actions? yeah, she doesn't talk about small businesses. nigel we've got to go back to press conference because our very own small businesses speak to the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves. >> let's have a listen, people. >> let's have a listen, people. >> and look at the aspirations and the vision that i've set out today. and keir set out in his speech yesterday, christopher hope from gb news. >> thank you, shadow chancellor. so you're not a socialist, are you? relaxed about company bosses getting very rich ? bosses getting very rich? >> i want businesses to be successful and that includes paying successful and that includes paying people at the top properly for the work that they do. but i'm also committed to turn the minimum wage into a real living wage , so that real living wage, so that ordinary working people also benefit when economy grows and is successful. and it's why our new deal for working people will also give to working people the security that should come and the dignity that should come from working hard , but for too from working hard, but for too many people doesn't exist today .

many people doesn't exist today. >> well, of course we remember peter mandelson when he was, advising gordon brown. he said he was intensely relaxed about people getting disgustingly rich. wasn't that the disgustingly rich? but i can't remember. >> i think he did say that. but i mean, this business of leaders, i mean, i must mention this letter of 120 so—called business leaders. there isn't one of the ftse 100 ceos in that list . they one of the ftse 100 ceos in that list. they highlight tom kerridge, who's a moderately successful chef with a handful of restaurants . they also of restaurants. they also include the former ceo of heathrow , john holland—kaye, who heathrow, john holland—kaye, who many holiday makers remember the misery he was responsible for at heathrow . and now he's left as heathrow. and now he's left as chief executive. what's he doing now? he's a director of thames water . i now? he's a director of thames water. i mean, for goodness sake, if that's the best they can do . you see, it's a typical can do. you see, it's a typical of the labour party because this is an idea that tim bell and i came up with years ago , and we came up with years ago, and we had ten business leaders write an open letter to the times , and

an open letter to the times, and they were very famous top businessmen like arnold weinstock, james hanson and people who were admired and respected all around the world with very successful companies. ten people who resonated with the entire business and beyond community. these people, 120 of them. most people never heard of them. most people never heard of them. where is the ceo of british aerospace? she's standing. >> there are a lot of former chief, i'll tell you who's missing. >> the chief executive of boots, who came out for labour but is conspicuously absent from that letter, and also where's, for example, james dyson, britain's most famous businessman , most famous businessman, sebastian james, the. but who is on there, of course, is richard walker from iceland, who, as we know, malcolm walker from malcolm. >> iceland . >> iceland. >> iceland. >> yes. a month before he joined labour party , was writing to labour party, was writing to rishi sunak, saying why can't i have a safe seat so that that's his son, wasn't it richard walker, who's sir malcolm walker , the founder of iceland, has signed. >> that's right. this letter. >> that's right. this letter. >> yeah , but there's a lot of,

>> yeah, but there's a lot of, as you say, former executives of companies on here. >> it's meaningless. and you see, they take a good idea and show how not to execute it. that's that's absolutely sums up the labour party . they can't do it. >> it's got a point, hasn't it? there's not a single ftse 100 boss on that letter. >> that is a point. but i mean i don't know why there isn't the important thing because they wouldn't have signed it because they'd have asked them. well i don't know. of course i don't know . and i don't know, i don't know. and i don't know, i don't know. and i don't know, i don't know whether a ftse 100 ceo thought it was appropriate to sign either side . have you got sign either side. have you got a list here at the moment of all the ftse 100 ceos who signed for the ftse 100 ceos who signed for the tories, i don't any of sign for the tories. yeah, well there you go. so it may well be that they've decided not to sign for political parties. what this is actually showing is that business likes what labour is offering at the moment. and there's been an awful lot of negotiation along the way. >> the restaurateur tom kerridge, that's a bit desperate, isn't it? >> well , you desperate, isn't it? >> well, you may not like desperate, isn't it? >> well , you may not like the >> well, you may not like the businessman they've got, but he's a bit of a medium. >> and tom's as much of a media

character. >> front page city figures back laboun >> front page city figures back labour. i wouldn't call tom kerridge a chef , a city labour. i wouldn't call tom kerridge a chef, a city figure. >> well, how many people does he employ? if it's over 100, i'd be very surprised. i mean, you know, as i've said, this is it's a good idea to do it. i can see why they did it. unfortunately, they couldn't come up with any kind of quality vie or anything that really resonated. as i say, the biggest names in british business have not signed i don't think the conservatives have asked yet. >> very unusual because the tories normally do have a whole list of. >> we've got five businessmen, we've got five weeks to go. >> i'm sure they'll rustle up some tory letter with some bigger names than a chef called tom kerridge, who i had to google. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> gentlemen, we've got to take a quick break now, because up next, nearly seven of out of ten of the most powerful jobs in britain are still taken up by men. should this should this change? maybe women should just work harder . it's change? maybe women should just work harder. it's a change? maybe women should just work harder . it's a little bit

work harder. it's a little bit more complicated than that, isn't it? this is gb news.

bro. good morning. 1046. so it doesn't seem too controversial a question . do women deserve question. do women deserve powerful jobs? >> we ask that question because nearly seven out of ten of the biggest jobs in business are taken up by men. so do we need to boost female representation in boardrooms, or do women need to work harder ? to work harder? >> do women need to work harder to get their way up the career ladder? >> you've done the housework when you run the kids to school, sorted out dinner in the evening, and all the emotional housekeeping for everybody in the family done all the other stuff that needs doing. >> anyway, let's talk now to youtuber and political commentator pearl davis and feminist and writer jean hatchett. good morning ladies. thank you so much for joining us, pearl, let me come to you. why are women still not quite breaking through that glass ceiling in the numbers that we potentially could be doing?

>> well, women are breaking that glass ceiling because really, we're not doing equal work. glass ceiling because really, we're not doing equal work . you we're not doing equal work. you know, women don't build any of these companies. know, women don't build any of these companies . you know, when these companies. you know, when we look at top female billionaires, we see kim kardashian , where men have elon kardashian, where men have elon musk. if women aren't willing to build these companies themselves, why do we go to the men and say , give me, give me men and say, give me, give me the best jobs in these companies? and if we look at society at large , women don't do society at large, women don't do the hardest jobs. you know, men create 75% of our food, 80% of our stuff, and in 150 years of nobel peace prizes for the hardest things like physics or chemistry, zero. all women teams have won. we're not picking career fields or even going to college for the highest paying stuff. but why? you know , my stuff. but why? you know, my answer is hell, if you are not working as hard as men and therefore we're not getting the results that men are getting . results that men are getting. >> hahaha jean, we're just not working as hard as the men were sat around filing our

fingernails and baking cakes while the men go out and create for the benefit of us all complaining, complaining ? complaining, complaining? >> yeah, because that's what women do best is complain. >> go on jean, let me let jean hatchett come in. >> do we need to be equal? that's my question. why? why is equality something that we strive for? >> well, let's see if jean can answer that. jean i mean, you know, this is an absolute basic level of, of inequality on a, on a board , because what pearl is a board, because what pearl is saying is that women don't have the merit because they don't do the merit because they don't do the work, but you've already got those boards stocked with men who decided the merit of those men or the men. so we're working within a, you know, an already established , society or established, society or patriarchal society, which has already laid the groundwork for those men to lead those companies. and do all this work that, that pearl assumes they are more capable of than than women. but, you know, for those board positions, 65% of those positions are nominations. those men nominate other men. you

know, that's that's a patriarchal society we've lived in for and been aware of for, you know, centuries . and pearl you know, centuries. and pearl can pretend she's not aware of it, but, you know, that's how you build a career as a youtuben you build a career as a youtuber, but the actual you know, the fundamental thing here is this is not one of the key, issues for feminist women. you know, the structural oppression of women goes on in so many different levels. and, you know, male violence against women is an epidemic level. so when you're asking why women aren't there, why they aren't doing this work, there are much deeper reasons why women don't attain those heights. and specifically working class women who will never get anywhere near a boardroom . go on pearl. boardroom. go on pearl. >> so go on. »- >> so go on. >> pearl, because i disagree. >> pearl, because i disagree. >> i, i disagree that we are in a patriarchy. i would say we're in something closer to a matriarchy where women have more power than men . you know, i've power than men. you know, i've spoken to corporate recruiters and they actually give women preferential treatment through dei hiring practices , i, dei hiring practices, i, i disagree completely that there's anything holding me back as a

woman. i've worked in corporate america. they're incredibly accommodating. and if anything, really, you're given more privilege and more treatment. the problem is women just aren't doing the work. the problem is women just aren't doing the work . second the problem is women just aren't doing the work. second thing you said is what male violence is preventing me from getting a job. are you kidding me? that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. women are actually the more violent gender. you know, women, when we look at the most abusive relationships, you know what they are? lesbians. lesbians are the most abusive, the funny thing , the funny thing the funny thing, the funny thing is, more women, more women are killed at the hands of their partners than men are killed at the hands of their female partners every single day in this country. >> but let's just. this country. >> but let'sjust. but this country. >> but let's just. but let's let's bring it back to the issue then about women are not hang on pearl. let's just. no, no, no. but let's because that's just empirically evidentially true that our prisons across the world are full of men who have who have murdered their female partners , as opposed to women partners, as opposed to women who have murdered their male partners. >> that's just nonsense. >> that's just nonsense. >> you women have aborted an eighth of the world population,

the most violent place someone can be is in their mother's womb i >> -- >> let's not take this down. an abortion rabbit hole ? abortion rabbit hole? >> no, just one of the reasons. >> no, just one of the reasons. >> well, that's not just being honest. that's just being ridiculous. the thing is, gene, one of the reasons that women enter the business world and don't make it onto the board level, which is what this story is about, is because of family commitments. yes. that is a big point at which women have a pivot in their life and they decide, do i have to give more time to my family ? am i able to time to my family? am i able to do both? and they find repeatedly, gene, that they can't do both. and part of that lies at the door of fathers who, when they have a child, still presume 100% of child care raising is the female responsibility . well, women responsibility. well, women aren't actually being called pearl. >> i want to hear from jean. >> i want to hear from jean. >> go on. jean. >> yeah, i think we're we're on the same page there because, you know, there are other issues as well as as maternity and the commitments of family life for women. and, you know, some of the comments there about lesbian women were were abhorrent, i think, you know, we've also got to look at menopause . can i

to look at menopause. can i speak, please? you're very rude at interrupting. i've seen your interviewing style. it's not pleasant. please stop. so, you know, you've got, levels of maternity that that put pressures on women. you've got menopause, you have got, a system where women will not put themselves forward for jobs because of decades of having their confidence undermined by men in a workplace. and some of thatis men in a workplace. and some of that is sexual harassment. not all. not all women are subject to sexual harassment . but, you to sexual harassment. but, you know, we have to stick with statistics here and we have to stick with how men get to those positions and why women don't. and you know, throwing out these, these random anecdotal examples of why you can particularly get to a position that ignores the actual experience of women attempting to get to those positions. that's not that's not really an argument. it's dismissing, you know, the statistical evidence of why women don't . of why women don't. >> that's right. pearl, last word to you. i think we've got time . time. >> okay. you know, i want to i want to, i want to show just from this conversation where

women don't live in the real world. you know, she said something really important that women have had their confidence undermined. men know that actually moving up in corporate america is not about confidence . america is not about confidence. it's about skill. and yet we yet one of the leading, you it's about skill. and yet we yet one of the leading , you know, one of the leading, you know, feminists, i'm assuming i don't know too much about her, but one of the leading feminists is saying that confidence is required to move up in corporate america. no, no, no, honey skill. the second thing we're going to talk about is women being mothers . you know, morgan being mothers. you know, morgan stanley's predicting half of women between 25 and 45 will be single and childless by 2030. women aren't having kids. the birth rate is declining. so you know, this idea that women are putting their motherly duties above of working. it's just not the case anymore. >> you know, we have no, because they can't do both because they feel that too much structurally doing both is too difficult. >> if you want to do both well, you can be a rubbish mum and

work all the time and you can be a brilliant rubbish in the workplace and be a brilliant mum. it's very hard to do both well, pearl, and one day you might find that out. both of you.thank might find that out. both of you. thank you so much pearl davis and jean hatchett there. >> what an interesting debate i kept out of it. did you notice? uncharacteristically well, although, having said that. yeah, but why is that? >> because you think it's not relevant to. >> you know, i just thought it'd be more interesting to have three women slugging it out. >> but this is my problem. >> but this is my problem. >> it's not a women's problem. >> it's not a women's problem. >> i've had some great women bosses, some of my best bosses have been women. >> good contribution is ellie with the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so after a showery weekend for many of us, there is further rain on the way as we head through the rest of today. this arriving into the west through the early hours of this morning and continues to push its way northwards as we head through this afternoon. but it will be a bit of a brighter

start across parts of scotland and northern england through this morning. and northern england through this morning . that rain this morning. that rain continues to turn quite heavy in places, particularly across western parts of scotland, although we could see some showers developing across parts of northern ireland, central and southern parts of england , there southern parts of england, there could be some hail and thunder mixed in here. two temperatures around about average for the time of year 17 or 18 degrees across the south, but definitely feeling cooler under that cloud and rain through the rest of tuesday evening. the rain continues to push its way northwards across parts of scotland, the very far northeast, perhaps getting away with some dry conditions, but that rain turning heavy in places and those blustery, thundery showers continuing across parts of northern ireland and into southern parts of scotland through this evening . scotland through this evening. so the showers also continuing for northern parts of and eastern parts of england, but further south and further west we will see outbreaks of rain continuing to push their way eastwards overnight tonight and into the early hours of wednesday morning. showers gradually easing generally though, through the early hours of the morning, and there will be some clear spells between those showers, so perhaps turning a little chilly in

places, but quite widely, those temperatures holding up into the double figures into the early hours of wednesday morning around 12, 13, perhaps even 14 degrees in places, but perhaps a little lower under those clearer spells. it does mean that wednesday starts a little drier and brighter. for many of us, though, there will be some sunshine as we head through the morning. perhaps a little cloudier though across parts of scotland, but as we head towards wednesday afternoon, heavy showers developing again, the heavier showers once more across parts of eastern scotland, north eastern england, but almost anywhere could see a shower through the afternoon again, with some hail and thunder mixed too . in perhaps a little warmer too. in perhaps a little warmer than tuesday, with highs of 19 or 20 degrees and a little cooler. further north. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

morning. 11 am. on tuesday, the 28th of may. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so good morning. boost for pensioners. rishi sunak declares that state pensioners will never be taxed and that he is on side with those voters. do you think he is and is it education for the rich? >> a shocking report shows now 4 in 10 private school pupils could be driven out by sir keir starmers vat tax rate and bringing growth to britain. >> labour's shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, has promised to lead the most pro—growth treasury in our country's history. she didn't say how she'd do it and burglary crackdown lib dem leader sir ed davey says we heard this before. >> all burglaries are going to be investigated. if his party comes to power. meanwhile, he's been out in the water this morning in windermere .

morning in windermere. >> i've been wondering why ed davey gone paddleboarding this morning. clean water, the penny just dropped and they have done well on it. they've done really well on it. they've done really well on it. they've done really well on this. i was talking to somebody all the pollution over the weekend who was thinking about voting reform, actually, and then got the leaflet through the door about the liberal democrats saying they clean up the rivers. and he went that actually is a big thing for me. i'm going to vote for the lib dems. it's a vote winner, that one. they've done well with that. >> and as piers pottinger pointed out, i'm not sure it's a great idea for those labour, those businessmen and women who are backing labour to include a director of thames water, which a could about to go bust, and b is one of the worst offenders for bringing pollution in our rivers. yeah. thanks, labour. >> get in touch this morning. gb news. com forward slash. your essay is a place to leave your messages for us and each other. first though, the very latest news with tatiana sanchez. >> beth. thank you. the top stories this hour with the shadow chancellor is promising

to introduce new budget rules aimed at preventing the turmoil seen following liz truss's mini—budget. in her first major speech of the election campaign, rachel reeves said the conservative party deserves to be judged on what she called 14 years of chaos and decline. she said average homeowners were paying said average homeowners were paying around £240 more every month due to the mini—budget, while wages remained flat and taxpayers are asked to pay more for less, promising that a labour government would bring business back to britain. miss reeves said that if the economy had grown at the oecd's average rate , it would be £150 million rate, it would be £150 million larger than it is today. >> if our economy had have grown at the average rate of oecd countries, these last 14 years, our economy today would be £150 billion larger, worth £5,000 for every household and providing £55 billion more investment for

our public services . that is our public services. that is their record and they deserve to be judged on it. >> meanwhile, pensioners could be in for a tax break worth up to £24 billion a year as part of an election pledge by the conservative party. it could see cuts worth around £95 in the next tax year, rising to £275 by 2029. the prime minister says it will be funded by a clamp down on tax dodgers, despite recent data showing that staff shortages have led to hmrc answering 22% fewer calls than it did in 2020. labour described the plan as a desperate move, but work and pensions secretary mel stride told gb news it's part of the government's broader plan . plan. >> want to go still further? and that's where the triple lock plus comes in. and what that means is that we will be uprating, just not just the pensions by the triple lock, but also what's called the personal allowance. that's the amount that you can earn without paying

any income tax. also by that same uprating, by the triple lock uprating. and what that will mean is tax cuts now for pensioners throughout the next parliament. labour have completely dismissed this, which basically means that during the next parliament, under labour, what you're going to be seeing is millions of pensioners being dragged into paying income tax, having to fill all those forms in all that paperwork and red tape and extra costs to pensioners , environmental pensioners, environmental experts would sit on boards of water companies to improve accountability and transparent see as part of the liberal democrat plan, sir davey took to a paddleboard in lake windermere as the party outlined plans to have environmental experts sit on water company boards as non—executive directors to improve public accountability and transparency. >> he said water companies are getting away with what he called a national sewage scandal, while conservative mps and ministers have sat on their hands. it comes as data shows sewage

spills in england's rivers and seas more than doubled in 2023. meanwhile, more than 120 business leaders offer their pubuc business leaders offer their public support to the labour party. in an open letter published by the times, the leaders say that a new outlook is needed so the uk can break free from a decade of economic stagnation in. some of those who've signed the message include the chef tom kerridge, and former ceos of heathrow jp morgan and aston martin. in other news, now the mayor of london has criticised the government's failure to introduce a total ban on zombie knives, calling it a betrayal of the safety of young people. sadiq khan is calling on the home secretary to bring forward the legislation, which would include a ban on the sale of the weapons. he says the government isn't taking the crisis seriously enough, and that he's set aside more than £150 million for policing and crime prevention in london. in and finally, nearly £30 million was

lost to courier fraud in the last year as scammers targeted pensioners. victims lost an average of £20,000 to the scams where fraudsters pose as police officers or bank officials and trick households into handing over money or valuables to a courier . over money or valuables to a courier. police say people in their 80s were the most likely to be targeted, with one person losing £56,000. five arrests were made this month following a combined police effort across england and wales. combined police effort across england and wales . and for the england and wales. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. now back to andrew and bev . andrew and bev. >> okay. good morning. >> okay. good morning. >> it's 1106. >> it's 1106. >> now then a lot of you were very unhappy with rachel reeves talking there. christina said. are you sure she isn't an ai bot, you know, i get that because she just was like, she

was on a it was a monologue . was on a it was a monologue. she'd. she looked nervous. i mean, she's not a great speaker , mean, she's not a great speaker, is she? and so perhaps that shouldn't matter. and we don't need the chancellor to be flashy. we want them to be not flashy. we want them to be not flashy. but it was just the same old retread statistics . old retread statistics. >> and they're all a bit robotic, though. look at sunak. >> there's something wrong with our political class that they are a grade students with no human skill or warmth , it seems. human skill or warmth, it seems. >> well, the ones who can communicate farage he's not standing for parliament, which of course he's getting a lot of flak for and boris, great communicator, whatever else you think of him. >> i do think a lot of the things about him as well, i have to say, there are a lot of you getting in touch as well about the plan to put 20% on private school fees from labour, maggie said there are children with health conditions that can't go, that go to private schools because the state system cannot cater for them. what would starmer like those parents to do now? labour would say, if you have an educational health care plan, so you are you have sufficient learning needs that

the state will pay for your education. the state is paying for your education in a private setting anyway. there are quite a few children like that, but of course, if you lose those private schools because they have to close down, what are we going to do with those children that have very specific needs? >> there is an irony here because keir starmer knew he was going to school in the school. i think it was in surrey, the school was being faced with being closed, but it became private and keir starmer stayed on at the school and benefited for, i think, three years. he was a beneficiary of private education. the state picked up his private fees so he knows how effective private schools can be in terms of social mobility. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and so bangs on about the fact he's from a working class background. would you have done as well in life as director of pubuc as well in life as director of public prosecutions if you hadnt public prosecutions if you hadn't had the benefit of that? private education, private schools now offer the sports facilities to the state system. >> the state system should have better sports facilities. that would be tick. job number one, if i was prime minister, sold off a lot of their planes. they sold off so much of their land, they can't you know, the state schools are already not doing

terribly well. and the private system takes the pressure off the state system. that's the issue. whether you agree with it ideologically or not. and of course, it's not ideal. and of course, it's not ideal. and of course, it's not ideal. and of course, it would be wonderful if we had no private schools or no need for private schools. and all the state schools were brilliant and all those kids with committed families were all in the same system. that would be wonderful. but that's not what we have, and this isn't going to make that happen. yeah. >> now, key part of the do that election campaign today, the prime minister has moved us to on an area where he thinks it will be safer. so he's saying that pensions, the state pension, will never be taxed in a policy that's being dubbed triple lock plus. that's right. >> he says he's going to clamp down on tax dodgers in order to pay down on tax dodgers in order to pay for this old money tree. labour's shadow paymaster general, jonathan ashworth, says that rishi sunak is planning to reward britain's pensioners for their loyalty by stabbing them in the back, just like he did to bofis in the back, just like he did to boris johnson. and just like he's done to his own mps. >> i really don't understand that line of attack. >> i don't get it. maybe this person can tell us why. joining

us now is former pensions minister baroness ros altmann. good morning. thank you very much for joining good morning. thank you very much forjoining us. so is this cause for celebration for pensioners? is it sufficiently rewarding that they would give their vote to the conservatives >> well, i don't know about the votes, but i do think this is a very sensible policy decision. i've been warning of and others too, have been warning that there is a real danger that millions of pensioners will suddenly be dragged, often for the first time in their lives, into the tax net, which requires them to make their own tax returns rather than, having money deducted at work by pay. for example , and they will not for example, and they will not be able to cope with it if all they've got is the basic or new state pension. and that's it. no private pensions, no other income, then they should not have to grapple with the complexities of the tax system , complexities of the tax system, which can leave them very often

facing penalties for not filling in a form that they never knew they had to fill in and didn't realise that they would be liable for a little bit of tax . liable for a little bit of tax. this would be a real administrative nightmare as well, because suddenly millions more people will be pushed over the frozen tax threshold. it's good news that the state pension is going up. of course , but to is going up. of course, but to force pensioners into the tax net when all they've got is their state pension and no other income. we're not talking about well—off pensioners. we're talking about the millions of pensioners who have very little to live on for the rest of their lives, trying to make their lives, trying to make their lives a little bit more comfortable and a little bit less worrying. actually, i think is a really good thing. >> and baroness altmann, it's not. i am glad you make the point about the admin and the forms, because anyone form s, because anyone confronting forms, because anyone confronting a tax form with hmrc

, it is bewildering, baffling and often pretty scary. and if you're 82 and you're worried about if this will take all of that away, apart from the fact it's also going to mean they're not going to be having to find extra money because of the way the this government has successively frozen the tax allowances. >> yes . and of course, we've >> yes. and of course, we've seen big tax cuts in the form of national insurance reductions already , in the last year or already, in the last year or two. but pensioners haven't benefited from that . so they benefited from that. so they were facing a potential nine mayr scenario where because they their state pension is just trying to keep up with either the cost of living or earnings in in the country as a whole, they would have been dragged into this tax net and into the ambit of the, inland revenue as i say, many of these older

pensioners will never have filled in a tax return form in their life, will never have had to negotiate that these are the poorest people , not those who poorest people, not those who were, you know, used to earning big sums and have got very generous other pensions . so our generous other pensions. so our state pension is not a king's ransom , and people trying to ransom, and people trying to live on it have to make do . live on it have to make do. they're not having a life of luxury, and they certainly can't afford to pay an accountant, for example, to try and help them know what their tax liability might be. and that's why i think the government needs to recognise that our state pension should be part of the tax free personal threshold. so if that's all you've got, you don't have to worry about penalties and tax forms and all sorts of other things. like i, in terms of the, the, the elderly in this country and where they might vote. >> one big issue that is missing for me from both pledges, from

both major parties is any mention of social care. >> social care? absolutely >> social care? absolutely >> i find that baffling, bemusing and frankly, depressing i >>i -- >> i don't find it baffling or bemusing , but it is depressing. bemusing, but it is depressing. it's not baffling or bemusing because so many politicians have come a cropper trying to sort social care out and successive governments over the years have promised to deal with this. we've had reviews, we've had royal commissions, we've had recommendations . we've even had recommendations. we've even had legislation with the care act in 2014, ten years ago , there was a 2014, ten years ago, there was a legislation passed that would say we should cap at least the extreme care costs for people. nothing has changed. that law has never been brought into practice , and we've had promises practice, and we've had promises of raising money from national insurance for social care. meanwhile, national insurance

has actually been cut, which i don't say is a bad thing, but where is the provision for social care at the moment ? it social care at the moment? it is. sorry. go on. >> no, i was going to say there's nothing from either party at the moment in terms of and i think it affects so many people because it doesn't just affect the elderly, it affects those in the middle of life who are caring for elderly parents. it then affects the grandchildren who are watching their elderly parents be treated poorly by the system. i why is it so difficult then? ross well, because for the last few decades, social care has been privatised. >> it's been left to private companies and councils. look after those who can't afford high fees. but councils don't actually run the social care. there are a few council run homes, but not very many. and so cash strapped councils are being told they have to find money to

pay told they have to find money to pay for increasing numbers of people who need social care , but people who need social care, but they haven't got the budget to pay they haven't got the budget to pay for it . meanwhile you've had pay for it. meanwhile you've had private companies making a lot of money by extract , putting the of money by extract, putting the eqtu of money by extract, putting the equity from these homes, taking the property value for themselves and loading up these homes with debt. and that itself makes the economics of this very difficult. it also starkly highlights the unfairness facing many older people and, as you say, their families who ultimately pick up much of the burden. because if you are an extremely highly paid person and you get cancer, the nhs picks up the cost for you. but if you are a widow with very little other than the house you live in, and you get dementia and you need care , you have to pay the whole

care, you have to pay the whole lot yourself. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> crazy. yeah >> crazy. yeah >> it's scandalous. >> it's scandalous. >> doesn't that just doesn't stack up the gross unfairness is something that we need to address. and i think social care should have been built into the pension saving provisions so that there's money set aside for care . i think we need care. i think we need a national, perhaps equity release scheme where you don't have huge, interest payments, but the government will lend you money against the value of your home if you then only need care for a very short period of time, you don't lose much of the value. however, you could also have savings plans specifically for care like care isas, which some people would take out. but at the moment you don't have any tax breaks to save for social care. okay? and that is wrong , care. okay? and that is wrong, lovely to talk to you, former pensions minister there, baroness ros altmann. >> there was a deal done between

cameron clegg and miliband back in 2012. an all party agreement to sort out social care. cameron pulled out of it. >> cameron pulled out. >> cameron pulled out. >> cameron pulled out. >> cameron pulled out of it. so that was ten years ago. 12 years ago now. and where are we now? >> yeah. it's dreadful. >> yeah. it's dreadful. >> it's terrible. and if labour don't come up with something on that, that will be shameful. >> yeah, well they're just ignonng >> yeah, well they're just ignoring it at the moment aren't they. because it's so controversial still to come this morning. are your teenagers in your life ready to join the army? we're going to be discussing rishi sunak's national service plan. not quite what it sounds like. this is britain's newsroom on

we' re we're going to cross live now to the prime minister. who's on the campaign trail on stoke in stoke on trent, in staffordshire. these were seats that the tories won unexpectedly at the last election. and it would take a miracle to hold them. here he is from 11% when i got this job,

down to 2% back to normal. >> now wages have been rising faster than prices for almost a yeah faster than prices for almost a year. the economy at the start of this year grew faster than france. germany italy, even america. so we really have turned a corner. and i hope you can see that the plan is working and that we've restored economic stability because that's what you get with me. that's what you get with the conservatives. we restored economic stability. we always will prioritise that . and always will prioritise that. and the question now, the question for all of you, the question for the country is who do you trust to build on that foundation and secure a future for you? your family and our country? and that's the choice at this election . do we build on that election. do we build on that progress that we've all collectively made and go forward, or do we go back to square one with no plan and no certainty ? now, the only certainty? now, the only certainty? now, the only certainty you're going to get with the labour party is that they're going to run out of money and put up your taxes as clear as night follows day. now,

we've crunched the numbers. actually not we actually the treasury, the officials at the treasury, the officials at the treasury have crunched the numbers, totted up all the things they said they want to spend money on and all the ways that they haven't found to pay for them and figured out what it's going to cost you. and i can tell you it's going to cost you £2,000 each, £2,000 for every working family in our country, and higher taxes to pay for their long list of things. that's not going to bring financial security to you and your family. now, you all know your family. now, you all know you read the newspapers, you turn on telly every day, whether we like it or not, we're living in a more dangerous and uncertain time than we have in decades. iran, russia, north korea , china working together in korea, china working together in ways which threaten our values , ways which threaten our values, our interests, not just abroad, but here at home. two states weaponizing migration to threaten the integrity of our borders and these uncertain times call for a bold plan, clear action, so that we can secure the future of our country. chart a course to a more secure future for all of you. and that's what you'll get with us. let's just take the

topic of illegal migration. something i know is important to all of you. something jonathan and i speak about a lot, right? it's fundamentally unfair that people jump the queue and come to our country illegally. puts pressure on local services, whether it's hotels here or elsewhere, puts people's lives at risk . it's elsewhere, puts people's lives at risk. it's simply not right. we've got a bold plan to deal with the boat. right? and when i first announced it or announced with my predecessor and i first got this job, people said, oh, no, this is not the right thing to do. do you know what? now across europe, the penny has dropped that our approach is the right approach. because unless people know that if they come here illegally, they won't be able to stay and we will be able to remove them, we won't be able to remove them, we won't be able to have a proper deterrent and stop them coming in the first place. now everyone else is realising that one person doesn't keir starmer been very clear he is going to let out all the people that we have detained to go on those flights. he's going to cancel those flights, offer an amnesty to illegal migrants and all that's going to do is make us the soft touch of

europe, a magnet for hundreds of thousands of illegal migrants from across europe . all to come from across europe. all to come here in any way you look at it, the labour party are not going to deliver a secure future for any of us on any or any dimension that you care about. now look, labour also want you to think that this election is over before it is even begun. well, you know what? i don't think this election is a foregone conclusion. i'm going to fight very hard every single day to earn your trust. and i also don't think the british people being, like, taken for granted. right? we're going to keep putting bold actions on the table that i think are going to transform this country for the better. you saw that just over the last few days. our plan a new version of national service so young people can get the skills, opportunities that they need, that we can foster a culture of service in our country to make our society more cohesive, so that we can strengthen our country's resilience and security for the long term. that is a bold plan . long term. that is a bold plan. what's the contrast? keir starmer gave another half an hour speech yesterday. right?

can any of you name a single new idea that came out of that speech? a single bold thing that's going to change our country for the better? no, because he's taking the country for granted. assuming he can waltz in to downing street without saying what he's going to do without having the courage to do without having the courage to tell you about his plans. right. and this is someone if he was happy to abandon every single promise he made to become labour leader once he got the job, what makes you think that he won't do exactly the same thing if he ever became prime minister, if he can't stand for anything himself, how can he stand up for all of you ? now, in stand up for all of you? now, in contrast, we are prepared to take bold action. we do have a clear plan, and that is how we're going to deliver a secure future for you and your families. and i want to build a britain where we can have a renewed sense of confidence in ourselves, in our communities, pride in our country , a country pride in our country, a country where your hard work is rewarded, where we continue to cut your taxes, a country where the opportunities that were

there for the previous generation are going to be there for the next generation, and a country where our defence and safety is assured. that is the secure future that i'm working towards. and with your support, that's what i will deliver for all of you. thank you very much for having me. all right. >> from stoke on trent, and if you were listening on the radio, you were listening on the radio, you will you won't have observed the fact that we were watching the fact that we were watching the prime minister's back for most of that speech. piers, you've stage managed so many of these speeches in your time with bell pottinger. how do they allow him out like that? >> i have no idea. i mean, whatever bright spark behind the campaign is responsible for that, that event was held for television, for the media. you don't have someone with their back to you the whole time, and in front of a very unamused looking audience of rather bizarre collection of people, we've no idea who the hell they are. and i mean, it was again, i mean, you know, rishi announces

some good policy and then takes a big step back with an event like that. absolutely appalling, in my view. does it matter, nigel, to voters that something like that matters hugely ? like that matters hugely? >> i mean, the whole thing about about having aides around these people is to make sure they don't do something stupid. so the idea of sending him to the birthplace of the titanic to launch the campaign, brilliant. you just don't do things like that. you watch out to make sure there's no exit sign above you when he's being photographed. so the idea you can actually come there and have his back to us all the way through means that the other it's just kids running it who don't know what they're doing, or they want him to lose because it just looks it looks appalling. >> it reminds me, nigel, i long old enough to remember. we might both might have been there, i can't remember. it was brands hatch, nigel, or the other big race course. it was the launch of the 1997 election campaign. john major got in his formula one car. the wheels fell off, i mean, and that was the headline in every single silverstone. >> i think it was silverstone.

>> i think it was silverstone. >> the wheels fall off tory campaign, and it became a metaphor, piers, didn't it? >> it does. yes. i mean, you know, as nigel said, i mean it must be someone who's got no experience behind this because , experience behind this because, you know, all they want him to lose, which is possible , i lose, which is possible, i suppose. but i mean, that's just inept and quite frankly, after the umbrella incident and the titanic, the last thing we need is, is this. and i really feel that that rishi on his is being left out there on his own to lose the election. >> but why are we not seeing other parts of the tory cabinet? there is a big i wonder not standing up. but where are they? >> well exactly. i'd love to know what they're doing and where they are and there's no there doesn't seem to be any dynamism in this campaign, even from the from rishi and his team, because all they're doing is going to the same thing they do all the time, go round the country to sort of odd places and do a bit of this stuff, which, well, it doesn't actually change anyone's view.

>> look bored stiff. >> look bored stiff. >> he's having to push back on accusations that people have been saying that he's lining up to basically head over to america, and one person who accused him of that was the conservatives. zac goldsmith. nigel. yeah. on twitter, this week, who really did sort of lay into rishi sunak. >> well, in order to tory mps who have been laying into him, i mean, they're furious. for a start, the election was called when it was that they all expected to go in the autumn. one tory mp has decided is not cancelling his holiday and is going to go off to greece . and going to go off to greece. and he's there already. he's there already, isn't it, steve? steve baker yeah, so i mean, i mean everything, everything seems to be going that can go wrong is going wrong. going wrong. and then he comes up with a load of policies which are obviously written on the back of a fag packet that he failed to ban the, the pension one is very, as ros altmann was saying, very popular, very sensible. >> and i'm surprised your lot aren't going for it. >> well i'm, i don't think 20 7pa day extra is actually a great windfall for pensioners.

>> it's a principle to say that the state pension will never be taxed. that's a very important principle. and what they should be, which labour are not agreeing with and what they should be doing is making sure that threshold, that thresholds go that threshold, that thresholds 9° up that threshold, that thresholds go up sufficiently so the state pension never would be taxed. >> and that would have been the situation had they not frozen thresholds all the way through. and i appreciate at the moment they haven't got the money to try and increase them, but that should be the target. so it's thresholds for all, not just for one group of people. >> well, it's interesting you say you appreciate they haven't got the money at the moment. labour have yet to explain where they're going to find the money for any of the stuff that they're hinting at. maybe they're hinting at. maybe they're doing just to look, but also california for rishi. i don't blame him if he goes there, quite frankly , because there, quite frankly, because after a labour government, i think he'll be joined by an awful lot of people in this country, although i suspect what he could do, of course, is take the first plane to rwanda, which is also quite a booming country at the moment, certainly is now, if you look at what zac

goldsmith said on twitter, i understand the anger towards sunak, who's damaged the party almost beyond repair and all but guaranteed the majority of his mps will lose their job next month. yeah, well, zac goldsmith is an extremely rich person who can say what he likes. he was involved with the government and not very successfully . he's not very successfully. he's rather embittered at not being in government . and that's all it in government. and that's all it shows. embittered ex—ministers are two a penny in this country and no one really takes any nofice and no one really takes any notice of them. >> no. and of course, he was boris, one of boris's big backers. >> yes, but you know, i mean, no one really, quite frankly, zac goldsmith wants to be important and powerful, but he isn't. >> and in answer to bob's original question, i mean, quite clearly, rishi sunak will have to resign should he lose the election on the basis that nobody is ever elected him. yeah, but so the job of prime minister, the question is he'll stay on as leader for a bit. >> i think. >> i think. >> well i would doubt it. oh i think, i think he, he will go as

soon as they can organise a new leader. >> i think so, right. we've got to move on again guys, because tatiana sanchez is waiting for us with the latest news headlines. thank you. >> bev thank you very much. the top stories this morning. the prime minister says the treasury has crunched the numbers and claims labour's economic promises do not add up while speaking in staffordshire just moments ago, the prime minister has said that his government's plan is working, whilst he also said that labour's promises would only bring uncertainty, including on migration . including on migration. meanwhile, the shadow chancellor is promising to introduce new budget rules aimed at preventing the turmoil seen following liz truss's mini—budget in her first major speech of the election campaign, rachel reeves said the conservative party deserves to be judged on what she called 14 years of chaos and decline. she

said average homeowners were paying said average homeowners were paying around £240 more every month due to the mini—budget, while wages remained flat and taxpayers are asked to pay more for less . sir davey took to for less. sir davey took to a paddleboard in lake windermere this morning as the liberal democrats outlined plans to have environmental experts sit on water company boards to boost accountability and transparency . accountability and transparency. vie. he said water utilities are getting away with what he called a national sewage scandal, while conservative mps and ministers have sat on their hands. it comes as data shows sewage spills in england. rivers and seas more than doubled in 2023. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. carmelites .

>> 1137 with britain's new gb news andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so, while labour reform and the tories have been making speeches this morning, we know you've been on the edge of your seat. lib dem leader ed davey has been busy in lake windermere . here he is listening on the radio. he's trying to stand up on a paddleboard. he's got a wetsuit on and a red little life jacket. >> let me tell you, if he goes in the water, that's going to be quite a splash. >> and he is looking shaky as his campaign. and there he goes. i think he threw himself in. >> i think he threw himself in. i'm sorry, sinner call me cynical. i think he did that deliberately, i think because that would get him on every clip. >> yeah, but why do they think that the headlines write themselves as a politician? >> if you show yourself in a slightly humiliating position, undignified sight as he tries to get back on the board? >> i mean, he's rather, broader of girton who was a year ago, isn't he? >> well, that's not relevant . i >> well, that's not relevant. i suppose what he wants to draw attention to is dirty lake, dirty rivers. and in that regard, then it is a clever

campaign because they do feel strongly. and a lot of our viewers do have a listen to what you said to reporters. here he is. ed davey. >> well, it's the liberal democrats who brought in the triple plus protection for pensioners, and the conservatives reneged on that and broke that promise in the parliament. just gone . and it's parliament. just gone. and it's rather remarkable. they're trying to make out this is some great policy. when they were the ones who increased taxes on pensioners in the first place by not raising allowance , it was not raising allowance, it was the liberal democrats who fought hard to increase the income tax allowance to help pensioners and help people on low incomes , and help people on low incomes, and the conservatives froze those tax allowances. so i don't think pensioners or anyone else is going to be fooled by the conservatives having broken their promise, having raised taxes now suddenly just before election, saying they're going to do something different. so would you support the policy of the new conservative government brought it in? >> would you vote in favour of it? >> well, i'm trying to stop a conservative government being elected. the last thing pensioners need is another dose of conservative government. the last thing the country needs liberal democrats have some

really attractive policies for pensioners, not only are we behind the triple lock as the ones who began it in the first place, we want to make sure the health service that pensioners rely on is properly funded, that there's a care system there. the conservatives are so undermined the nhs and care for pensioners that i think there are lots of people who retired, who feel betrayed by the conservatives. isn't it? >> isn't this all a bit unfair on working people? >> well , we on working people? >> well, we think the income tax allowance should be risen for everybody , not just for everybody, not just for pensioners. we think, as we did in government, we delivered on it. increasing the income tax allowance is the fairest thing to do for people in work as well as pensioners . and it looks like as pensioners. and it looks like the conservatives have just forgotten everybody who's in work . work. >> what's your view on labour's plans to introduce the 20% vat levy on private school fees? >> well, the democrats don't support that because we don't think it's the way to actually improve education across the board . we want to get more money board. we want to get more money into our public education, our

state education. we're going to put forward lots of very ambitious plans, way more ambitious plans, way more ambitious than the labour party , ambitious than the labour party, to make sure that young people get the best start in life. and i'm really looking forward to campaigning on our manifesto policies to improve education for everybody . for everybody. >> do you think keir starmer would make a good prime minister? >> listen, i'm here to talk about the liberal democrats and i'm really proud of our campaign, what we're campaigning on, whether it's the nhs , more on, whether it's the nhs, more gp's, more nhs dentists, the things that people really care about, our approach to getting the economy back on track or our campaigns on the environment. we're here in the lake district, the beautiful lake windermere, to campaign on the issue of sewage. it's been the liberal democrats who've been campaigning hard to clean up our rivers and our beaches and our lakes , and it's liberal lakes, and it's liberal democrats leading on that. so i'm focused on getting more liberal democrat mps elected and defeating conservatives . defeating conservatives. >> can i get a yes or a no? on whether keir starmer would make a good prime minister >> listen, i'm really focused on

the liberal democrat campaign. i think people want to know in a campaign, not about the other parties. when they've got a liberal democrat in front of them, they want to know what we're going to do. and we've got some fantastic candidates who make brilliant local champions if they're elected in their seats and in so many seats across the country. if you want to beat the conservatives, only a vote for the liberal democrats can do that. we've seen that in the south of england, in the west country, here in cumbria, with the amazing tim farron, you know, across the country there are so many seats where it's the liberal democrat vote that's a powerful vote to defeat the conservatives. last question, did you fall into the lake on purpose? do you know what, once i did the rest, i just kept falling in. but it's fun , but falling in. but it's fun, but there's a serious message. and there's a serious message. and the serious message is you know, lakes like, lake windermere are so precious . our environment and so precious. our environment and our wonderful country is so critical to so many people . and critical to so many people. and not just people who live near those lakes and rivers, people who visit them. it's important for public health. it's important for environment. it's important for environment. it's important for environment. it's important for the tourist economy right here, here in the

lake district. they need to make sure that the water companies are properly held to account and so it wasn't just about paddle boating today. it was to launch our policy of making sure that environmental experts from the local community are on the boards of water companies so they can't get away with what they've been getting away with, that they are properly held to account. great. thank you very much. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm just find a nice warm cafe so we don't have to listen to the rain on his umbrella. >> alicia de broglie. >> alicia de broglie. >> at least you had a brolly. what a low bar. at least he had a brolly that pretty much sums up the election campaign so far, doesn't it? that was, of course, lib dem leader ed davey in. >> he threw himself in. >> he threw himself in. >> i beautiful windermere. >> i beautiful windermere. >> i beautiful windermere. >> i think he threw himself in. >> i think he threw himself in. >> i think he threw himself in. >> i think he probably wanted the photographs are the images right. don't go anywhere because in a minute we're going to play you a clip of deputy leader of the labour party, angela rayner, who is pleading with voters, with muslim voters for their vote. you do not want to miss it. this

gb news. >> so, this fascinating footage. that's come on social media, which i think is going to be quite an issue for angela raynen quite an issue for angela rayner. she's deputy in the labour party. >> that's right. she's talking in her constituency of ashton under lyne. she's talking to a room entirely of muslim men. that's the bit that struck me that there are no women in this room. why? maybe because culturally that might be tricky in that particular room and that particular environment . particular environment. >> now she's in a state of panic because george galloway's workers party of britain is putting a candidate up against her. that is, a candidate who will be muslim , implacably will be muslim, implacably opposed to labour's position on the wall, which is not to support an unconditional ceasefire in gaza . we saw that ceasefire in gaza. we saw that galloway won that by—election in rochdale. rochdale is about eight miles from andy rayner's constituency. i've written about this in the west midlands in the mayoral election, the george

galloway candidate got 12.5% of the vote. so the muslim there is an independent muslim standing against angela rayner and judging by this clip, she's what mrs. thatcher in one of her great lincolnshire words would say is frit . see what you think say is frit. see what you think my voters were very upset with the labour party. >> i was with you and you saw me over the line. you supported me in seats that are similar to mine. people lost their seats. you were there for me and i don't believe i could have done that without you. now i know that without you. now i know that people are angry about what's happening in the middle east. and i said, live on tv, and i say to this day, if me resigning as an mp now would bnng resigning as an mp now would bring a ceasefire, no , i would bring a ceasefire, no, i would do it. i would do it if i could affect change. the only thing i've done in my channels this i've done in my channels this i've got three british doctors out last week from rafah who

were stuck there. i worked hard day and night to get them out. they were stuck there because they'd been helping , and i'm now they'd been helping, and i'm now working on getting aid in again because those doctors told me they went in with ten suitcases and that lasts a week. now. they've been restricted to two, said tubes . said tubes. >> what strikes me is the body language of those men. >> they find it really difficult as a woman to watch that nobody's looking at her. none of them are making eye contact. she's trying her hardest to pitch for their vote. she's begging them. she's grovelling. she's saying she would resign if she thought it would enact a ceasefire in gaza. >> well, she didn't vote for one. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> there was an opportunity . >> there was an opportunity. when there was 56 labour mps rebelled, ten resigned from the frontbench. they supported an snp vote on this in november. she did not support it. she stuck with keir starmers line, which is the same as the government line that they do not support an unconditional ceasefire in gaza, while hamas has still got hostages. remember that hamas got, what, 100 that hamas got, what,100 hostages? still 110 hostages. so she had her opportunity, but

they they listened to her in stony silence. who knows? >> if they were listening to her, they were in the same room. they weren't looking at her. no other women in that room. >> and that is going to be seized on by galloway's candidate. demeaning >> should we talk about potholes? i know it's something that you all feel very strongly about. and a row has erupted. >> well, can i say about potholes if i was keir starmer if i if this was a rishi sunak policy and young people are to be doing some voluntary work at the weekends, it would be care homes. >> the other thing would be fix potholes. how popular would that be? >> very well. a row has erupted over the maintenance of a public footpath that borders holland. east yorkshire is filled with potholes. some of them are several inches deep. they're a problem for those who walk down the lane and for residents. anna riley has the story. >> this medieval public footpath in east yorkshire is popular with walkers , but a 700 metre with walkers, but a 700 metre section of the lane in cottingham is peppered with potholes .

potholes. >> on rainy days like this, it's prone to flooding . trevor prone to flooding. trevor saunders uses the lane every day to access his property, and he's been asking the council to repair it for decades . repair it for decades. >> you see on your left, 3 or 4 potholes that the council say are acceptable. i'm going to stand in one for you, and you can imagine if you was disabled and walking down here and you happen to go in here, you'd be in trouble . in trouble. >> okay, so just explain to me it's nearly over your, our deck. >> go any further because it's deeper than this. and anybody of age or, a disability would be in serious trouble. >> they'd fall over the uneven surface is problematic for vehicles as well as pedestrians . vehicles as well as pedestrians. >> it's like being in a rocking chair up and down. it will be damaging my car. it will cost me

money in some parts of the lane . money in some parts of the lane. >> the potholes are a foot deep. the fight to fix them has consumed the life of 74 year old trevor. >> it's continued early on my mind and it's continually i have to keep trying to get the councils to do their duties to this footpath. i want them to do their legal duty to this very, very popular and heavily used footpath in response, east riding of yorkshire council said the public walking along the route should expect conditions similar to other public rights of way in a countryside setting . of way in a countryside setting. >> repairs to support traffic over and above , walking for over and above, walking for those who have private vehicular rights and not the council's responsibility, the route meets a reasonable standard for this type of path and complaints from the public remain very low. trevor now plans to crowdfund for legal action to get the lane

fixed. anna riley gb news cottingham . cottingham. >> good for you, trevor. i love men like that, not potholes . men like that, not potholes. >> they're craters. >> they're craters. >> that was absolutely unbelievable . i'm not sure unbelievable. i'm not sure i could have campaigned for decades. i think they would have got the better of me, and i'd have gone down there with a bit of tarmac myself and filled it in. >> they could have done a bit of crowdfunding, actually. yeah, fixed them themselves. >> well, i am glad, trevor, that we can raise awareness of your potholes anyway, right. stop chris said i will vote for whatever party promises to fill in trevor's potholes. oh, quite right. but you see, this is the thing. this is what people really care about. >> bread and butter issues. and that's what you want to hear. rachel reeves talking about and rishi sunak talking about. but you never do. >> absolutely . right. that is it >> absolutely. right. that is it from us for today in britain's newsroom up next, good afternoon britain with emily and tom. here they are. see you tomorrow. >> there's a row erupting around media coverage. yes. the bbc

took the reform uk press conference this morning, only to cut away saying usual customary inflammatory language from nigel farage. are they editorialising ? farage. are they editorialising? they're in the middle of a general election. >> that's certainly nigel farage is accusing and a young people hard done by the prime minister is promising yet another boost to pensions . is promising yet another boost to pensions. but young people, are they having a rough time of it. we'll have that debate . it. we'll have that debate. looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. good weather on. gb news. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so after a showery weekend for many of us, there is further rain on the way as we head through the rest of today. this arriving into the west through the early hours of this morning and continues to push its way northwards as we head through this afternoon. but it will be a bit of a brighter start across parts of scotland

and northern england through this morning. that rain continues to turn quite heavy in places, particularly across western parts of scotland, although we could see some showers developing across parts of northern ireland. central and southern parts of england, there could be some hail and thunder mixed in here. two temperatures around about average for the time of year 17 or 18 degrees across the south, but definitely feeling cooler under that cloud and rain through the rest of tuesday evening. the rain continues to push its way northwards across parts of scotland, the very far northeast, perhaps getting away with some dry conditions, but that rain turning heavy in places and those blustery, thundery showers continuing across parts of northern ireland and into southern parts of scotland through this evening , scotland through this evening, the showers also continuing for northern parts of and eastern parts of england, but further south and further west we will see outbreaks of rain continuing to push their way eastwards overnight tonight and into the early hours of wednesday morning. showers gradually easing generally though, through the early hours of the morning, and there will be some clear spells between those showers, so perhaps turning a little chilly in places, but quite widely,

those temperatures holding up into the double figures into the early hours of wednesday morning around 12, 13, perhaps even 14 degrees in places, but perhaps a little lower under those clearer spells. it does mean that wednesday starts a little drier and brighter. for many of us, though, there will be some sunshine as we head through the morning. perhaps a little cloudier though across parts of scotland, but as we head into wednesday afternoon, heavy showers developing again, the heavier showers once more across parts of eastern scotland, north eastern england, but almost anywhere could see a shower through the afternoon again, with some hail and thunder mixed too . in perhaps a little warmer too. in perhaps a little warmer than tuesday , with highs of 19 than tuesday, with highs of 19 or 20 degrees and a little cooler further north. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good afternoon. britain it's 12:00 on tuesday, the 28th of may. i'm tom harwood, and i'm emily carter. will boost your pensions, not us. a promise from rishi sunak, who vows to protect state pensions. and those payments from being taxed if he wins the general election. it's being dubbed a quadruple lock. but critics say the pledge isn't credible and risks alienating young voters as well. >> this, as the labour party claims to be both socialist and the new party of business, with 120 ceos openly backing the party ahead of the general election. >> meanwhile, nigel farage has thrown himself into the campaign, giving his first major speech in dover as the prime minister slaps down his challenge to debate him on immigration. it's all go. >> and just in, nigel farage is

accusing the