to £275 by pensioner rising to £275 by 2029. the prime minister says it will be funded by reclaiming funds from those who deliberately evade tax. labour described the plan as a desperate move, but rishi sunak said it's part of the government's overall plan. >> what i believe is that if you work hard all your life, you should have dignity in retirement . that's why we've retirement. that's why we've protected the triple lock, which is going up by £900 this year for pensioners. but today what we've announced is the triple lock. plus we're going to increase the personal allowance for pensioners delivering a tax cut worth around £100 to millions of pensioners, demonstrating our commitment to them, making sure that we can deliver a secure future for them. and in contrast, the labour party have said they oppose that policy , which means oppose that policy, which means pensioners will be paying tax under any future labour government. and that's the clear choice on offer at this election i >> -- >> sunak speaking earlier on this afternoon. well, the shadow chancellor has told gb news that

pensioners are in fact paying more tax because of the conservative government rachel reeves used her first major speech of the election campaign to pick out the much criticised mini—budget of liz truss, which she blamed for costing homeowners around £240 more every month . speaking to gb news every month. speaking to gb news political editor christopher hope , miss reeves said wages hope, miss reeves said wages remain flat and taxpayers are being asked to pay more for less. >> everything that i put forward will be fully costed and fully funded because i will never play fast and loose with the public finances, because when you do so, you put family finances and pensioners finances in peril and the conservatives are now adding bauble after bauble to the christmas tree without any idea of how they're going to fund these new commitments. yesterday they said they were going to use this money to create national service scheme. today they're saying they'll use the same pot of money to give a tax break for

pensioners. well, the reason that pensioners are paying more tax today is because of decisions by this conservative prime minister rachel reeves. >> speaking to gb news earlier on today. meanwhile, the deputy labour leader has accused the conservatives of using desperate tactics after greater manchester police said it will take no further action in its investigation into electoral irregularities. angela rayner had been closely scrutinised over whether or not she'd paid the right amount of tax on the sale of her council home back in 2015, after there were conflicting stories over whether or not it had been her principal residence . in a statement residence. in a statement released this afternoon, police clarified that matters involving council tax don't fall under its jurisdiction. sir keir starmer reacted this afternoon i never doubted that angela hadn't done anything wrong and now she's been completely cleared by the police and that means that angela can be campaigning with

us this is an important moment for the country. >> this is an election that is all about change. turning our back on 14 years of chaos and division . starmer. division. starmer. >> for the latest stories do sign up to gb news and scan the qr code on the screen right now, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . alerts. >> thank you polly. so just to get you used to me, i'm going to be here covering nigel's show until the general election. but don't worry because we will always have a side order. in fact, a very generous, almost american style sized side order of farage on every show . of of farage on every show. of course, he's going to join me in just a moment to discuss his big speech in dover on immigration. i'm also going to get the first reaction, of course, to the bbc row that broke out. this is what he said this morning about the small boats crisis. he suggested that it should be declared a

national security emergency. >> these young men that come and i've actually filmed this, i've filmed on the 12 mile median line , people throwing their line, people throwing their iphones into the sea, throwing their passports into the sea, doing everything they can so that we can't track and identify them. although it's okay because they get an iphone, a new one within 24 hours of arrival . but within 24 hours of arrival. but i think this is a national security issue . security issue. >> meanwhile, in staffordshire, the prime minister, rishi sunak, who has refused nigel's offer to debate him, gave the case for him and the conservatives to deal with illegal immigration. >> we're the ones that have got a clear plan and that's how we'll deliver a secure future that particular topic of illegal migration is a case in point. we've got a bold plan, the rwanda scheme, to ensure that if you come here illegally, you will not be able to stay and you will not be able to stay and you will be returned. that's how you create a deterrent. the penny is dropping across europe that that

is the right approach. >> we're going to be speaking to political editor chris hope in just a moment. but before that, i'd like to know what you think about immigration. is it going to affect your vote, this immigration emergency that nigel has spoken about in dover this morning? there's an argument, isn't there, that actually the electorate's more concerned about the economy than immigration, that some people are a bit ambivalent about whether the rwanda plan can stop the boats? i'd like to know what you think. is immigration going to be the major factor that affects who you vote for, whether you might be a disgruntled tory, perhaps you're more convinced by reform . do you more convinced by reform. do you vote as a labour voter on immigration? are you convinced that starmer, rayner et al. yvette cooper can smash the smuggling gangs? get in touch with us. it's farage @gbnews chess.com or onyx with the hashtag farage on gb news. joining me now, as promised, is christopher hope christopher. of course. gb news is political editor . you've had a busy day, editor. you've had a busy day, day six of the campaign chopper.

my day six of the campaign chopper. my goodness, have we got the energy for this? have we got the stamina? i hope so, and you've been busy. first of all, covering nigel's speech. it made headunes covering nigel's speech. it made headlines across all publications and broadcasters, but not necessary in a way that you might expect, not least after bbc presenter geeta guru—murthy mask appeared to slip when she made a remark in reaction to some of the comments he had made. >> that's right, that was the bbc there, those remarks saying that that was inflammatory comments. the bbc then had to apologise. it just shows, i think, that we are in a in getting towards the white heat. these the, the embers of the, of the election campaign are warming up in the great right, right now. today i was in derby with rolls royce, camilla listening to rachel reeves and i was so struck. i was so struck by what she was saying and how the labour party is so careful not to make any unfunded statements of any policy at all against the tories, who are spending billions over the

weekend on plans for national service for young people. and then this triple lock plus for then this triple lock plus for the pension , that's 4 billion or the pension, that's 4 billion or so they found down the back of the sofa . it struck me about how the sofa. it struck me about how you've almost reversing the roles of 2017, 2019, when the tories accused jeremy corbyn of having a magic money tree . how having a magic money tree. how they're being very careful with with all our money. and now you have the reverse , with labour have the reverse, with labour saying we can't spend any money anywhere at all against the tories, who are offering up all sorts of bold ideas. i interviewed rachel reeves and asked her this exact point on what taxes she might increase. might increase were she to become shadow chancellor . this become shadow chancellor. this is what she had to say. your plans. you've said corporation tax won't go up above 25% before 2030. what about income tax and national insurance? will that also not go up in those five years? >> so i want taxes on working people to be lower, but i'm not going to make commitments without saying where the money is going to come from. but i can make the commitment that income tax and national insurance won't go tax and national insurance won't 9° up tax and national insurance won't go up under a labour government.

and of course, the whole five years, the whole five years of the next parliament and on corporation tax and obviously here with businesses at rolls—royce today, have made the commitment that we will freeze corporation tax at its current rate . but if there is any threat rate. but if there is any threat to our competitiveness by other countries reducing their corporation tax, of course we would always look to act . would always look to act. >> there you have it there. so i'm taking off them off here. income tax, corporation tax, national insurance. none of those will go up in the first five years of a labour government. camilla i also asked asked her just for you about a wealth tax. camilla and she and she made very clear that that all there's no they're going nowhere near wealth taxes. so where can this a future labour government work to win given their polling? that is looking like it might happen. where will they raise the money? well they won't answer on vat. and maybe some action on pensions and some speculation. but they are. she is boxing herself in, rachel reeves on what she cannot raise

money and they are hoping that the growing economy is forecast to grow over the next couple of years or so, although quite anemically that can fund maybe some tax cuts for the working people. she talks about . people. she talks about. >> well, it's interesting isn't it, about the wealth tax. i mean, i'm flattered, chris, that you think i would be directly affected by this, but of course, because of fiscal drag, the tax rate bands being frozen for this amount of time, actually, people and that includes pensioners. just in light of rishi sunaks argument today about not taxing pensioners, that's all happened because under the conservatives, people have been fiscally dragged into tax rate bands that they shouldn't really be in and shouldn't necessarily stay in. what i found interesting about rachel reeves is this whole labouris rachel reeves is this whole labour is now the party of business, although i note that it was pointed out that those 122 businesses that appear to have endorsed labour, somebody quite shrewdly pointed out that none of them are ftse ceos . so none of them are ftse ceos. so they've cobbled together that list of supporters but doesn't

quite seem to be as robust as she's making out. no i asked the question actually in the q&a. >> are you relaxed about people being rich? i said, you know, she was asked, are you a socialist? that's the question of the weekend. she said she was a social democrat. and i said, well, you're not a socialist, but are you relaxed about people getting filthy rich because you want to be on the side with business? and she said she's quite keen to support those two. if you work hard, you get paid appropriately. so i think those kind of tensions might be issues going forward. when we get into bonus season in the first year of a labour government. but i think i was struck by the nerves around around the operation. maybe it's just a day six of a campaign, about nervous about about committing to anything that isn't already funded. they are they can see traps everywhere. they're nervously not going towards anywhere near matching the money spent by the tory party over the weekend, and the roles reversed. the tories are playing catch up and on their on the on the motto on the party's got this election is

change. well in truth, it's no change. well in truth, it's no change. and that's what was so striking because , she was asked striking because, she was asked about this. she says no stability is changed. so they almost saying in an oxymoron way, not giving you more guarantee of what's happening is actual change compared to liz truss and the like . truss and the like. >> chopper. thank you very much indeed. i'm not convinced whether change is stability or stability. is change really works as a slogan. and as nigel farage pointed out earlier today, there's barely a fag paper between the tories and labour when it comes to immigration. as i said earlier, this speech made headlines across all publications and broadcasters, but not in a way you might expect. after bbc presenter geeta guru—murthy mast appeared to slip when she made this remark. in reaction to some of the comments that nigel made about the wave of and i'm using his words, not mine. >> aggressive young males that are coming into poland having

crossed the mediterranean, and he has said that this is now a matter of national security. nigel farage, with his, customary inflammatory language there at a reform uk press conference, he declined to stand as a for a seat. >> but we will have more customarily inflammatory well later guru—murthy did make this apology, nigel farage now an apology. earlier today we heard live from nigel farage speaking at that election event. we just saw when we came away from his live speech, i used language to describe it, which didn't meet the bbc's editorial standards on impartiality. the bbc's editorial standards on impartiality . vie i would like impartiality. vie i would like to apologise to mr farage and viewers for this. >> well, joining me now is the man of the moment himself, nigel farage. nigel we look forward to an ofcom investigation, don't we. >> gotcha. i mean , all she did >> gotcha. i mean, all she did was just expose the sheer prejudice and bias that exists

within the bbc. >> what was interesting was i've never seen the bbc in my life apologise that quickly, but remember last year they fought me for five days over the de—banking row and i battered them and battered them and in them and battered them and in the end they had to give in. so they realised, you know, i can be a very nice friend. but i tell you what, camilla, i'm a horrid enemy indeed. >> so, i mean, you were pleased with the apology, of course, though. >> oh, yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> look, i accept it. i'm happy with it. thank you very much, it's just the fact that the very comment began. customary. customary inflammatory comments that said absolutely everything about the bbc. and really, it's by gb news was formed three years ago . years ago. >> also, weren't you just parroting what donald tusk had said about the influx of migrants into poland ? migrants into poland? >> i mean, that's extraordinary thing, isn't it? i mean, i have said before for having met face to face, these young men in the engush to face, these young men in the

english channel have aggressive. many of them are, but it didn't say it today. i quoted an eu lovie, you know, the former boss of the european council, donald tusk. but but clearly, if it comes from me and context gets lost entirely , it's lovely to lost entirely, it's lovely to see you reunited once again with your old eu brethren. >> nigel, let's talk about the whole issue of muslim voters. i know you've got yourself a little bit of hot water over the weekend with some comments you made to trevor. well, not hot water. i'm saying the media made something of it. you don't think that there's anything to say? you talk this morning about the idea of sectarianism and how conversations might be taking place in communities in britain where women are excluded. you've talked about the young muslim vote may be seeming to be anti—british and anti—british values. and then i wanted to get your comment on this, nigel, because the guido fawkes website website today has published a leaked clip of labour's deputy leader, angela rayner, recently exonerated from a police probe

pleading with muslim voters in ashton under lyme. this is what she had said . she had said. >> now i know that people are angry about what's happening in the middle east and i said live on tv and i say to this day, if me resigning as an mp now would bnng me resigning as an mp now would bring a ceasefire, no , i would bring a ceasefire, no, i would do it. i would do it. the only last week the labour party were supporting the icc . the supporting the icc. the conservatives didn't support the icc . so with this general icc. so with this general election on that issue , we can't election on that issue, we can't affect anything when we're not in government. and if labour get into power, we will recognise palestine . palestine. >> what's your reaction to that, nigel? well there she is begging, literally begging to the muslim elders to say, please don't vote for george galloway , don't vote for george galloway, please vote for me. >> will be as nasty as israel as we possibly can be. we'll back the icc, call the international criminal court's call for netanyahu to be arraigned as a

war criminal. how many women in the room? none. my point is this surely modern day british values mean that women are equal. at least i thought they did. no longer. no longer not with this new form of sectarian politics that excludes women completely. and what it goes to show is the extent to which mass immigration, lack of integration has changed british society. now, some people may think that's fine, i don't. i'm deeply uncomfortable with it. and i must say, what happened recently in the local elections when you had councillors being elected in leeds and bradford and burnley and elsewhere, coming out of the count screaming allahu akbar or we're coming to get you there is a problem. and the problem is the problem is with 18 to 24 year old young muslims in britain, nearly a quarter of whom support jihad . these are whom support jihad. these are not british values and all i've

done over the last few days is say, can we please have a grown up debate? okay >> i mean, i think there are some british muslim women who would rail against that. some of them are elected in parliament and are campaigning as we speak. also, there was an interesting piece in the spectator by a young british muslim, citing different polling, which suggested that 80% of young british muslims enjoy being in britain. appreciate what britain gives them as members of an ethnic minority group . but ethnic minority group. but what's interesting about angela rayner's intervention here is she's got a very difficult line to balance, hasn't she? because on one hand, we've had keir starmer trying to appear like the western statesman in saying that israel had a right to defend itself, but yet balancing that up against, as you've touched upon, this threat from george galloway and other independents to the labour vote, which are more staunchly on the side of palestine, let's be clear, the vast majority of british muslims are doing well.

>> they're getting qualified, having jobs, paying taxes and want their kids to do well. actually, this growth of extremism amongst muslim youth, this radicalisation, particularly since the events of october the 7th in gaza, is a bigger threat to them, camilla, than to you or i living our lives . what's been so lives. what's been so fascinating over the last few daysis fascinating over the last few days is for me. and by the way, angela rayner did mention my name to that group. what's been so fascinating is to see an attempt by the most mainstream media to close down this debate. we should be talking about this if we have a growing band of young muslim men and women, men mostly in this country, who despise everything we stand for, i think that is a problem , nigel. >> we've got to leave it there. but thank you very much indeed for your time this evening after what i know has been a very busy day. well, we still want reaction to our central question of tonight's show, which is will the immigration debate affect

your vote? will it change who your vote? will it change who you for ? vote and please get in you for? vote and please get in touch with us as ever at gb views @gbnews .co.uk, and let's give you some of that feedback now , actually, rory says, as now, actually, rory says, as a labour member, i'm very confident in kieran yvette cooper smashing the gangs and bringing control to the border. do you agree with that? we'll hear more about that

welcome back to farage with me. camilla tominey. now, before the break, i asked you how will the immigration emergency affect your vote? and we heard from rory, who said that that would make him vote for labour more than the conservatives or reform . what are the rest of you saying? peter says after voting tory. all my life, never again. because of the failed migration policy, denise says, i have always voted conservative but feel they are not conservative

anymore and will be voting reform. terry says scrap the rwanda fiasco and spend the money on putting the royal navy in the channel and turning them back. and paul adds in the context of where i place my vote, migration will play a significant part. currently, neither sunak or starmer will be getting my vote, so that seems to suggest that a lot of you are more concerned about immigration than necessarily you are about the economy. before the break, you heard me speaking to nigel. i got his reaction from the controversy caused by his speech on immigration. this morning, including a row with the bbc ending with the corporation corporation apologising. and this is what he said. >> i said before having met face to face. these young men and the engush to face. these young men and the english channel have aggressive many of them are, but it didn't say it today. i quoted an eu lovie, you know, the former boss of the european council , donald of the european council, donald tusk. but but clearly, if it comes from me and context gets lost entirely to get the reaction to that, i'm joined by

peter edwards, former editor of labourlist, and sunil sharma , labourlist, and sunil sharma, chief operating officer of the conservative friends of the commonwealth. >> lovely to see you this evening, gents. let's start with you. first of all, peter, are labour convincing on immigration? we just heard from a lot of viewers and listeners who are saying that they don't think they are and that they'd rather vote for reform than labour or even the tories . labour or even the tories. >> immigration is a really important issue, especially at election time. the last poll i saw, which i think was ipsos mori around the start of this calendar year, labour had a narrow lead on immigration and asylum issues, so you know they won't be complacent. i'm sure you're fed up with hearing that phrase about no complacency . phrase about no complacency. immigration is important election time. but i think the pubuc election time. but i think the public have generally lost faith in the government because of broken promises. >> sunil, what do you think of what nigel farage has said this morning? i mean, some people, including the bbc, have found it inflammatory and had to apologise for it. is he going too far or does he have a point?

>> no, i think he definitely has a point, i think we've got to a stage now where we're so scared of offending a small minority that we're prepared to hurt the majority . and what nigel said majority. and what nigel said this morning, i think the vast majority of the country would agree with. i think naturally, people more london focused, london based mainstream media will maybe see a fence to it, but all of his statistics used are factual . we know that are factual. we know that majority of men are the ones that come in, via the english channel that come in, via the english channel, via the boats. we know this for a fact, we know that they find it harder to adapt into society when you have large volumes you can look across at sweden, scandinavian countries who are going a lot stricter with their immigration now. so i think he said is, is pretty much a fact and can be backed up by other countries in very similar situations, so i think what he's said is completely right, and we should , i think his basic common should, i think his basic common sense is what he used today. >> peter keir starmer's success on july the 4th is going to

depend on him persuading the disgruntled, persuading the undecided if they're worried about immigration. is he the right person to sell the message that labour will bring immigration down, both legal and illegal, when everyone knows that when he worked as a lawyer, he was somebody that fought for more immigration, not less. >> well, i don't think it's true to say fought for more immigration. but you'll be aware that barrister adopts a cab rank principle in terms of how they've taken their clients. look, i want to go back to this point about nigel farage, because i don't think nigel farage speaks factually . i think farage speaks factually. i think he spreads division, and i think he spreads division, and i think he does so deliberately because he's an extremely canny politician. so to take one example, you know, he talks about britain moving towards a sectarian politics where women are excluded, you know, in the borough, i've spent most time tower hamlets in east london, the labour group has a majority of women. so i really think it's in nigel farage's tactical interests, but not in britain's interests, but not in britain's interests, to spread dangerous myths about immigration because it turns people towards smaller

parties. nigel farage approaches, a plague on all your houses, but he doesn't have the data to back that up , although data to back that up, although he makes a good point, doesn't he, about some of the green and independent councillors that we witnessed at the local elections , sort of seemingly making their own campaigns much more about freeing palestine than actual local constituency matters. >> i mean, the green candidate who was shouting allahu akbar in the street, i wouldn't imagine has been chosen by the greens because of his sort of eco warrior ness or any of his other green policies. >> well, you should be shouting that and you'll have to ask the green party about the greens. i'm a labour supporter through thick and thin. but of course, what's happening in middle east is a massive source of distress to all of us. and horrific anti—semitic attack on october the 7th and then an unbelievable loss of life in palestine, over 30,000. now it's inevitable that when we're witnessing such distressing scenes, that's going to touch upon british politics. indeed, it would be strange if

british politicians or candidates were not talking about that. whatever their view . about that. whatever their view. >> sir neil, do you think that the tories have given up on the muslim vote, and that actually that's a big disadvantage to them, because if you think about most muslim communities, they've got small c conservative values. there's probably socially conservative there. obviously religious, they're family orientated, they're aspirational in many respects. they've been lost to labour. it's almost a given that muslim people should vote for labour, even though there's a lot for the conservative party. one assumes, to offer them . to offer them. >> yeah, i think it's a really difficult one. i definitely agree with the entrepreneurial nature of the muslim communities that they are socially more conservative, but there are some harsh facts that, again, these are statistics. nigel farage is saying in parts of the conservative party are saying, which is that there is an issue in terms of adaptability, in terms of how much they are adapting and plenty of the muslim communities are. and we can see differences depending on even which, parts of, which

parts of the world that they come from. but i'll give you a statistic about when nigel had his sort of, when he was talking about men in terms of the focus with islamic men, 70% of muslim women are unemployed versus 20% of christian women, 55% of all british pakistanis are married to blood relatives forever. a second cousin, 37% of babies born between two thousand and seven and 11 to british pakistani parents are first cousins. we know statistically, scientifically . if it's a cousin scientifically. if it's a cousin marriage, you have double the chance of observing defect. this poor child has a much significant, poor child has a much significant , difficulty of life. significant, difficulty of life. 90% of 43,000 extremists on the me one on the ml5 watch list are islamically. related. we know about what happened in rotherham in terms of those women that were raped and abused and sold by largely pakistani men. these are serious problems going on in our country. and i don't think when nigel talks about it or other conservative mps or even

some labour mps who talk about it, that they should be punished with this islamophobia flag, which is what has happened to nigel farage this morning, which i think is deeply unfair. we need to ask the questions of how can we bring these people more into our society? >> peter, very quick response to that. please >> i'm really concerned about generalisations of the like. i've just heard i'm a christian. we've got different views about sex before marriage and sexuality. there's different views within islam about sex before marriage and sexuality. let's not mix these up . it's not let's not mix these up. it's not the right approach. generalisations are never helpful when talking about different ethnic or religious groups. peter edwards and sunil sharma, thank you very much indeed for joining sharma, thank you very much indeed forjoining me this evening. >> now, as the general election fast approaches , these are the fast approaches, these are the days of doorsteps, door knocking and leaflets over is in fact the election going to be one on tiktok? we'll find

next. welcome back to farage with me. camilla tominey. now, i was interviewing david davis, the long standing tory mp, the other week , about how the campaign week, about how the campaign might be played out on the streets of britain. and he made the point that these days, it's 80% air war and 20% ground war. he's a former, territorial army man in the sas. so he used that analogy. and what he meant was that it's not about kind of pounding the streets anymore. it's very much about social media. and that's borne out by some statistics. so young people get their news from instagram, 50, tiktok 45. and then conventional online news websites, 35. so that's the direction of travel. the big question, i think for young voters in this election, and this is the offering they've been given on one hand, you've got labour offering them votes at 16 and 17 years old. on the other, you've got the tories offering them arguably maths at 18 and national service. so we sent out our fine young reporter adam, to find out what the young

people think of the election campaign so far. people think of the election campaign so far . so adam cherry campaign so far. so adam cherry headed over to king's college london earlier today. headed over to king's college london earlier today . and this london earlier today. and this is what they said, national service. >> what do you make of that, i think it's, very, desperate . think it's, very, desperate. populistic move from the government, from a zombie government. that's in its dying breaths. >> i like the idea of people being of service. i can imagine finding purpose in it. it doesn't seem like they've thought through the practical details whatsoever here. >> even if it weren't, £2.5 billion that we don't have, it would still be a stupid idea. it's clearly just a kind of, oh, we need old people to like us again. >> yeah, well, to be fair, i don't think. i don't think it's too bad. i think if it was a mandatory, mandatory thing for everyone and everyone had to do it, i don't think it'd be the end of the world. and it's only for a year. keir starmer wrote at 16. >> what do you reckon to that one? >>i one? >> ihad one? >> i had some pretty developed political opinions at 16. >> yeah, i don't hate it. i wouldn't have minded being able to vote when i was 16.

>> i feel like, you know, if you're if you're old enough to work and you're old enough to, to earn a salary in, in taxes, you know, then you should have a say in, in, in our, you know, parliamentary democracy, 18 might seem like a more reasonable age for, voting. >> i think it's too broad. i don't think i mean me as 19. i don't think i mean me as 19. i don't have the biggest idea of what what really is going on with politics and stuff. i think 16 year olds, unless they're like masterminds. i think you're you're pretty lost with letting 16 year olds vote. >> all right. so a fairly mixed picture there. sharon gaffka joins me now in the studio. she's co—lead of give an x, which is a pro voting campaign, particularly aimed at young people and a women's rights activist. lovely to see you today, sharon. thanks for coming in. i found this statistic nuts from savanta polling the conservatives trailed labour by 47 points among 18 to 25 year olds, and that's double the lead that the labour party had on the conservatives in 1997, when it was 22 points. so this whole idea, perhaps of a young

conservative, seems a little bit oxymoronic . maybe there are no oxymoronic. maybe there are no such things. what do you think about social media and how persuasive it now is on young minds? because i wouldn't think that young people , if they can that young people, if they can vote. and obviously keir starmer suggested they should be younger to vote. but let's take the average 18 year old. are they going to be reading a leaflet, drop through the front door, i mean, i'm 28 years old and i don't necessarily want to read a leaflet that's been dropped through the front door because we all know that they're geared towards whatever messaging they've got. whereas, you know, i get a lot of my personal news from social media. there's outlets that i trust , reporters outlets that i trust, reporters that i trust, or public figures that i trust, or public figures that people find me a public figure that they trust. so they look to their their news for me, when it comes to, for example, you were saying that i was a co—leader for a given x campaign that's, to drive young people to the polling stations because we know that young people are politically active and politically active and politically interested. you see the engagement on social media. it's really strong and really high. but actually getting them to the polling station is a little bit different. >> well, that's interesting

because turnout is historically low among that group. in fact, one of the counterarguments to 16 and 17 year olds being given the vote is that they might not use their vote. and yet, as you say, we see young people being ever more vocal on social media. they've been particularly vocal, for instance , in recent times for instance, in recent times over the debate over gaza. so why is it i mean, i suppose if you were going to be nasty and ungenerous towards millennials andindeed ungenerous towards millennials and indeed generation z , you'd and indeed generation z, you'd say they're too lazy to get to the polling booth. >> i wouldn't say it's , >> i wouldn't say it's, laziness. i would say that maybe they don't feel represented by they don't feel represented by the people that they see on their ballot paper, and i think actually that they, i think there's different ways now of being politically active, setting up your own campaign, being vocal online instead of just turning up at the polling station, and when it comes to tiktok and other kind of mediums, it's been interesting to see the government particularly embrace tiktok in this campaign, not least when it was only a few months ago that ministers including, i think, deputy prime minister oliver dowden, was saying everyone needs to come off tiktok because

of the threat from chinese hacking . is the average sort of hacking. is the average sort of politically minded, 1819, 20 year old going to set much store by a video recorded by rishi sunak or keir starmer or ed davey? >>i davey? >> i don't necessarily think it's the political leaders creating social media content or tiktoks that's going to drive young people to want to vote for them. you know, from my experience, it's actually there's a lot of brands making political content, things that are actually really relatable to young people . i don't young people. i don't necessarily relate to any of the politicians that have sat in the house of commons for a long time, so yeah, it's about looking for people that are relatable. and i think one thing the labour party have really have done really well in previous years is finding people that have big social media followings that are relatable to young people. we know that when jeremy corbyn was running for prime minister, he had the backing of stormzy, which obviously has a huge following from young people, although it didn't do much good in 2019. i mean, yeah, but like i think that the conservative party have

struggled to replicate that kind of backing from a relatable person with a big public following, particularly from young people. >> sharon, very nice to speak to you this evening. thank you very much. we shall continue to watch your socials with great interest as ever. well, let's get to on another story actually, which sharon would probably be quite interested in. as somebody who champions women's rights because the esteemed garrick club may have voted to allow female members for the first time, but now it seems another historic member's club could be following in its footsteps . the 140 year in its footsteps. the 140 year old flyfishers club may be poised to make a similarly historic move as marina gibson, well named being official woman called marina , one of the called marina, one of the country's leading female anglers, has called on the club to finally admit women. well to discuss this with me, i'm delighted to be joined down the line from ripon by marina herself. lovely to see you five. fishing instructor and guide. to be fair . look fishing instructor and guide. to be fair. look marina, my dad goes fly fishing. he loves fly fishing, the river test. he's

fly fished all of his life. never got me into it as his daughter. how many women are anglers ? i mean, is there a big anglers? i mean, is there a big female fishing community? >> well, i've had 11 on the lake today. >> well, i've had 11 on the lake today . oh, okay. yeah. so that today. oh, okay. yeah. so that just goes to show that there's lots of women out there fishing, participating. there's as more and more instructors getting their coaching exams and casting exams under their wing. so it is increasing and it's really positive . positive. >> and why are you calling for female admission to this 140 year old club? i suppose the counterargument could be if there's a thriving fisherwoman community, then set up your own club . club. >> yeah, i think it's a it's been a running joke for a long time, and i think that it would just be wonderful to have access to the archive and the education that they have in the flyfishers club, and it's really , you know, club, and it's really, you know, fly fishing as a whole in

general is a hugely inclusive sport. and i think that it would just be great to be able to walk through the doors and not feel like you have to be invited or, you know, you're only allowed to go in the evenings that you can just go, go, go upstairs and, relax, sit down, read a book, and have really great conversations with fellow anglers . anglers. >> do you reckon that we need to get king charles involved in this? because i note that he's a patron of the fly fishers club, which is based in mayfair. >> he is? yes. i mean, look, that's not for me to say, but, it would be wonderful. i know that a lot of members are very keen, and, you know , a lot of keen, and, you know, a lot of people don't like change, and that's completely okay. but let's hope that, you know, one day, we can we can join them. >> i notice, actually, that reaction has been quite positive. the club last had a vote on this in 2013, where they rejected the idea of female members, but in a quote, a spokesman said that these this

suggestion of admitting female members was quote under consideration. so that might be a little bit of progress . a little bit of progress. >> that's positive. and we can only live in hope. >> we can only live in hope. i can't leave this conversation without asking you as an angler, what's the biggest fish you've ever caught ? ever caught? >> oh good question. >> oh good question. >> i think it would have to be the £120 tarpon in mexico . the £120 tarpon in mexico. >> oh my goodness me, i know i was expecting you to do a hand gesture there, marina, and say it was this big. >> it's too big. >> it's too big. >> it's too big. >> it's so big we can't even see your hands. look, all the very best with the campaign and lovely to speak to you. thank you for sparing the time this evening. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> every day. as you know, on nigel's show, we have a what? the farage moment. i like to call it. can you believe it? because i'm taking ownership of this show until july the 4th. so i think when we say what the farage or cam, you believe it, we do have to look at ed davey campaign today. he fell into the

water at least three times while paddle boarding on windermere, which is strange because the liberal democrat leader has been banging on, hasn't he, about the quality of our waters, the quality of our waters, the quality of our rivers and lakes, which he says are full of sewage. in fact, the liberal democrats of today suggested that they should get clean rivers campaigner fergal sharkey on their books if you're that worried about sewage, why on earth are you spending hours and hours in the water that you're saying isn't clean enough, slightly strange, and i'm not sure the best day of campaigning for the liberal democrat leader . for the liberal democrat leader. anyway, that's the what? the farage moment. in a moment we're going to talk about israel and that. well, it was described by benjamin netanyahu as a tragic accident that saw a refugee camp bombed. more on that later

welcome back to farage with me. camilla tominey. let's talk about the situation in the middle east. now. ireland, spain and norway have all formally recognised a palestinian state. the palestinian state, and that comes as several israeli tanks on tuesday reached the centre of rafah. according to reuters reports, the death toll in the air attack on displaced people in rafah has now risen to 21, as i said earlier, benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister described the airstrike strike as a tragic mishap . i'm strike as a tragic mishap. i'm joined now by david meltzer. he's a spokesman for the israeli government. thank you very much indeed for joining government. thank you very much indeed forjoining me. this evening. mr mensah, you can appreciate, can't you, the outrage against this attack on displaced people who were ushered to what they thought was a point of safety , only to end a point of safety, only to end up being bombed? i mean, it's a tragic accident, as netanyahu has stated . but this is

has stated. but this is catastrophic, isn't it? when it comes to western support for the israelis war effort . israelis war effort. >> so thank you for having me join you, camilla. you know, we just released the preliminary results of the army investigation, just this afternoon . and what the afternoon. and what the investigation found was that we used two of the smallest munitions, 17kg each, to get these two terrorists. two terrorists, very much wanted, very much, chased by us because they're the heads of hamas in, judea and samaria, responsible for many israeli deaths, but also responsible for british deaths as well. you remember the case of lucy d, a b'rit and her two daughters who were killed just, about a year ago. so these two individuals who we targeted and we reached now the preliminary results of the investigation have told us that these two munitions that were

fired very carefully , very fired very carefully, very precisely, with precise intelligence . those themselves intelligence. those themselves didn't cause the fire, which killed people. it was the munitions which were next to those terrorists in that hamas compound which killed, so many people. now, of course , any people. now, of course, any civilian death and all these civilian death and all these civilian deaths, the prime minister is absolutely correct. it is an absolute tragedy. but let's be clear for all of the blame for civilian tragedies , blame for civilian tragedies, especially in this case, must land at the feet of hamas. they are responsible for this war. they started this war. they perpetuate this war. they don't want to give our hostages back 125 people, and they continue to wage war upon us. so the blame for these civilian deaths lies firmly at the feet of hamas . firmly at the feet of hamas. >> mr i completely appreciate what you're saying about the hostages. we must never forget them. 125 people still in

captivity and indeed , we all captivity and indeed, we all support the message of bringing them home equally , there are them home equally, there are many watching and listening to gb news who agree with israel's right to defend itself. however incidents like this, you must admit mean that you may start to see sympathy for the israelis actions wane, not least in the western world. i mean, this incident has prompted yet more marches in protest on the streets of great britain . streets of great britain. >> well, this is my point, camilla. these deaths were caused by a and a hamas munition dump. that's what the army released today. you know, when we've made mistakes in the past, we've made mistakes in the past, we hold our head, our hands up, and we said we've made a mistake and we said we've made a mistake and we said we've made a mistake and we correct our practices accordingly. but in this instance, yes, of course , again, instance, yes, of course, again, the civilian deaths are tragic, but they've been caused by a hamas munitions dump, ammunitions that were meant to kill me and my people and

israelis and anyone that's here, any freedom loving people, you know, you know, we would all of us here prefer not to have anyone sympathy. we just want to win this war against hamas because whether we have western sympathy or not, and we do, of course , have much understanding, course, have much understanding, in the uk, which we do , of in the uk, which we do, of course, appreciate. but ultimately we're fighting for our very survival here. so whether we have sympathy or not is irrelevant to us. understanding is important, but also winning this war is what's important to us. we've got a genocidal, murderous organisation, not thousands of miles away on our very doorstep. they say they want to do october 7 again. the rapes, the beheadings. okay families and we're going to stop them. >> david mensah , thank you very >> david mensah, thank you very much indeed forjoining me this much indeed for joining me this evening. tom harwood is in the studio with me. tom, what have you got coming up on state of the nation? >> a huge amount. there's this developing story about diane abbott at the moment. she, of course, was suspended as a labour mp . it appears tonight

labour mp. it appears tonight she's got back the whip. but confusion over whether or not she'll be allowed to stand as a labour candidate, it appears that the investigation was over six months ago, even though on friday keir starmer said it was still ongoing. it's an almighty mess and we'll be trying to get to the bottom of that. that and also pensions, of course. how's it all going to be paid for? brilliant >> stay tuned for state of the nafion >> stay tuned for state of the nation next and i'll be back tomorrow at 7 pm. but first, here's the weather with alex burkill. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening from the met office. here's your latest gb news weather update. whilst it is going to turn drier for most of us by the weekend before then, we still have some thundery showers around. earlier on today we had a weather system pushing its way north eastwards across the country, bringing some heavy persistent rain. for many of us. that's now starting to clear though lingering across some northeastern parts through

this evening and overnight and behind it, it isn't turning completely dry. further outbreaks of showery rain and some of these could still be heavy, possibly the odd rumble of thunder overnight, many places staying quite cloudy so temperatures aren't going to drop a huge amount, but there will be some clear skies around, especially towards the south. and here we could see a few pockets of mist and fog developing tomorrow morning . if developing tomorrow morning. if we take a closer look at what's happening tomorrow morning, though, quite a cloudy start across northeast scotland and some outbreaks of lingering rain here, maybe some brightness across northwest scotland around the central belt, but on a whole largely cloudy. further outbreaks of showery rain to be had, similar for northern ireland and northern england, though some bright spells possible. a brighter picture , possible. a brighter picture, though across central southern england greater chance of seeing some sunshine, particularly once any mist and fog patches clear away as we go through the rest of the day, and it is going to be quite a showery picture for most of us. any rain lingering towards the northeast may continue for a time, but the greatest story will be the fact that there'll be some hefty

showers, particularly for eastern scotland , northeast eastern scotland, northeast england, some of these turning heavy and thundery elsewhere , heavy and thundery elsewhere, the showers may be not quite as intense, but some rumbles of thunder are possible. there will be some sunny spells in between the showers, though, and temperatures rising into the mid to high teens or possibly low 20s towards the southeast. thursday is going to be another showery day for many of us. perhaps the showers not quite as intense as on wednesday, but nonetheless some thundery downpours are still possible, though there will again be some bright or sunny spells in between any showers. like i said at the start, it is turning dner at the start, it is turning drier into the weekend and so particularly by saturday and sunday it's looking mostly fine and quite warm. by a brighter outlook with boxt solar sperm . outlook with boxt solar sperm. >> answers of weather on

degrees to be slashed as the prime minister promises a 100,000 new apprenticeships in a bid to win back younger voters . bid to win back younger voters. >> angela rayner cleared and diane abbott barred from standing at the election as focus shifts away from labour policy to internal troubles . policy to internal troubles. >> ed davey makes a splash at windermere. but are these kinds of election gaffes stupid or the secret to political success? >> closing arguments have been heard in donald trump's hush money trial , as the prosecution money trial, as the prosecution has urged jurors to find the former president guilty . former president guilty. >> and why does the uk have the most expensive diesel fuel in the whole of europe? we're going to be speaking to a motoring expert to get an answer shortly . expert to get an answer shortly. >> and in sport this morning,

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