and should we be youngsters? and should we be concerned about the rise of the asian hornets ? all of that and asian hornets? all of that and more coming up. but first, an update on the latest news headunes. headlines. >> very good evening to you from the newsroom. 6:00 exactly. and a look at the headlines tonight. we'll start with a round up of the election news as migration has been at the forefront of labour's campaigning today after accusing the conservatives of having repeatedly broken their promises, sir keir starmer is promising to bring net migration . down if he wins the general election with new laws. he says. sun on sunday he said last years net migration figure of 685,000 has to come down well. shadow home secretary yvette cooper refused to put a time frame or set a specific target on that

promise . promise. >> well, net migration has trebled in the last five years under the conservative was one of the biggest drivers of that has been work migration . we're has been work migration. we're not setting a target a specific target on it. and the reason for thatis target on it. and the reason for that is partly because the conservatives have just effectively ripped up all the targets that they've set over many years. they've discredited the whole process, but also more importantly, because there are short term factors that can affect the numbers. and what we think instead is we need to have a long term approach that is about bringing net migration down and tackling the failings in the system . in the system. >> meanwhile, the conservatives have said they would free up 20 million gp appointments by the end of the next parliament if they return to power. the party are promising 100 new gp surgeries in england and, they say, to modernise 150 others. the party's also pledging to expand the pharmacy first scheme. the plans would be paid for by cutting the number of nhs managers back to pre—pandemic

levels. health secretary victoria adkins says they are working to make the nhs better. >> my job as health secretary, for example, is to explain our vision for our nhs , which is to vision for our nhs, which is to reform it to make it faster, simpler and fairer. and some of the announcements i have today concerning gp surgeries concerning gp surgeries concerning pharmacy first and community diagnostic centres are the ways that we will help deliver that over the coming years. we are going to fund this. it's fully funded, we're going to fund it partly through a reduction of managers in the nhs and the nhs. >> the nhs , the snp rather has >> the nhs, the snp rather has launched its election campaign in glasgow today, accusing labour and the conservatives of failing scotland. first minister john swinney told a crowd that people in scotland want rid of the disastrous and chaotic conservative government. he also spoke about the independence campaign under the snp, saying it would allow the country to make its own decisions and enhance the lives of scottish people.

>> and it's the people of scotland i want to speak to directly today as we set out our message , let me make this message, let me make this commitment to the people of scotland . i am here to serve you scotland. i am here to serve you all. i am here to work hard to win your trust and your confidence. i am here to give everything i have to secure the best future for our country . best future for our country. >> in other news, the met police has confirmed that 56 people were arrested at wembley last night at the champions league final. thousands of football fans were at the stadium to watch that final match. police say five were arrested for pitch invasion. dozens of others were arrested for attempting to breach security, while the faa has now confirmed that no one who tried to get into the stadium without a ticket was successful . in israel, there's successful. in israel, there's division over the proposed ceasefire deal to end the war in gaza. demonstrations broke out overnight in tel aviv, one

against the government. there and the other calling for the release of hostages. protesters say they want a deal to be agreed that would see the return of israelis who were kidnapped by hamas in october last year. two senior right wing ministers have threatened, though, to quit the government and bring down the government and bring down the coalition if prime minister benjamin netanyahu agrees to that brokered deal by the us . that brokered deal by the us. nonh that brokered deal by the us. north korea has launched what's being described as a bizarre barrage of balloons filled with rubbish, cigarettes and suspected animal waste floating towards its southern neighbour. more than 700 balloons have been found, so far in various parts of the south, with explosive clearance teams dispatched to recover any debris. the south korean government are calling it a dirty provocation from the north. however, pyongyang says it's in retaliation for defectors who often send their own balloons across the border containing leaflets, medicine and usb sticks . and in and usb sticks. and in a historic first, china has successfully landed a spacecraft

on the south side, the dark side of the moon. the unmanned chang'e six lunar probe is exploring a region that no other country has ever managed to reach, and is on a mission to collect rocks and soil samples. the european space agency says. it's a mean feat given there's no line of sight for communication, which makes landing there more challenging . landing there more challenging. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts. >> you might not have heard of the ukrainian azov brigade. the fighting unit was formed of volunteers in 2014. in the beginning, it was led by andrei beletsky, who has said it is ukraine's national purpose to quote lead the white races of

the world. in a final crusade against semite led untermensch. end quote unterm mensch means underclass, inferior people . the underclass, inferior people. the azov brigade is the product of nazi ideology, and it's no secret nazi ideology that was and remains an undeniable problem for ukraine. as recently as 2018, the united states congress ordered that none of its aid was to be used to, quote, provide arms, training or other assistance to the azov battalion. but last week, pictures circulated a former british prime minister, boris johnson, in what appeared to be a room in a private member's club in london, praised the bngades club in london, praised the brigades members as heroes . this brigades members as heroes. this was, let's not forget, the same bofis was, let's not forget, the same boris johnson who was the nato bag carrier sent in 2022 to scupper the potential peace deal between ukraine and russia, thereby helping consign unkown tens of thousands to the meat

gnnden tens of thousands to the meat grinder. since then , johnson grinder. since then, johnson posed with the brigade's flag , posed with the brigade's flag, told his guests and his audience my message to you is very simple. thank you to the heroes from the azov brigade who honour us with their presence . tonight us with their presence. tonight he took the opportunity to demand on behalf of ukraine the right to fire. western made weapons deep into russian territory, a move that threatens the final descent into world war three, which is a hot war with russia in the upended, upside down world in which we are living. it can be hard to remember what we were once ianed remember what we were once invited to know as the truth. for example , i'm sure i remember for example, i'm sure i remember at school being taught that the allies , you know, britain, allies, you know, britain, france, russia, the united states of america , canada, states of america, canada, australia, new zealand and more besides won the second world war by defeating a bunch calling themselves nazis. i was also definitely taught that britain went to war with nazi germany

with the intention of restoring freedom and democracy to those who had been denied them, denied them by the nazis , and by 1945, them by the nazis, and by 1945, this objective had been achieved specifically by defeating those nazis . of course, even a cursory nazis. of course, even a cursory examination of the events that unfolded during world war ii reveals it was all to be fair , a reveals it was all to be fair, a bit more nuanced than that, to put it mildly. bit more nuanced than that, to put it mildly . when britain put it mildly. when britain declared war on nazi germany, the stated intention had been about restoring freedom and democracy specifically to poland and the poles, who had been invaded by nazis. when i say the playing out of events was nuanced , i mean, for example, nuanced, i mean, for example, that you don't have to be much of a student of history to nofice of a student of history to notice that when the war ended, poland and the poles were completely abandoned, to be eaten alive by the soviet, no freedom restored for them, nor democracy either. but that's international diplomacy and the geopolitics for you. or, to put it another way, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

all of that said , i'm still sure all of that said, i'm still sure i remember being taught that the allies won the second world war and that those nasty nazis, the enemy of all that is good, were definitely defeated by us. the nazis, i was taught, were the baddest baddies of world war ii. the very sight of their famous logo being the swastika was supposed to strike terror into freedom loving hearts forever. its meaning never to be forgotten . there were other forgotten. there were other insignia besides all beyond the pale . never again. i'm sure pale. never again. i'm sure i remember that slogan as well. and being urged to make all efforts to ensure nothing like nazism and its attendant horrors could ever return to stalk the planet. ukrainians suffered horrors in the 20th century before, during and after world war ii that are almost unimaginable under stalin. they knew the great ukrainian famine , knew the great ukrainian famine, also called the holodomor of 1932 and 1933, which killed perhaps 5 million people under

nazi occupation during the war, there was more suffering more than a million were murdered as part of the holocaust. jews gypsies, political opponents, any and all deemed undesirable . any and all deemed undesirable. untermenschen. at baba yar, a ravine near the capital city of kyiv, tens of thousands of men, women and children were ordered to strip naked before being herded into mass graves and machine gunned to death . some machine gunned to death. some ukrainians sided with nazis , ukrainians sided with nazis, others sided with russians and then the second half of the 20th century happened right up to and including the decades since 1989, when nato ignored all of russia's red lines until it was a thousand miles closer to the bean a thousand miles closer to the bear. then a us enabled coup in 2014. the chasing out of kyiv of a democratically elected president disliked by washington and favoured by moscow, a ukrainian civil war in which those with affiliation to russia

were the targets of sectarian violence. estimates of 10,000 deadin violence. estimates of 10,000 dead in the last decade in the east of ukraine, killed by explosives dropped on them by those in the west of that country. always the push to pull ukraine in russia's stated buffer against nato into nato and even the european union. and then in september last year, i watched in real life, in real time , a ukrainian nazi veteran time, a ukrainian nazi veteran of that war of world war ii, being treated to a standing ovation in the canadian parliament, while canadian prime minister justin trudeau grinned and clapped along with every other parliamentarian in the room. and while president volodymyr zelenskyy of ukraine raised a clenched fist in salute, 98 year old yaroslav hunka was bathed in the adoration of all assembled hunka had been introduced to the throng as a canadian war hero who had. and here's where the world turned upside for down the russians during world war ii.

remember insomuch as history matters, the russians, during some of the 1940s at least, were our allies. old man hunka, as it turned out, had been a member of the waffen ss galicia division or the ss 14th waffen division. a ukrainian volunteer unit under the command of those that slaughtered the tens or the hundreds of thousands at babalar. those i had been taught to understand as the baddies, those nazis , the friends of those nazis, the friends of simon wiesenthal centre for holocaust studies said that hunkers division, quote, was responsible for the mass murder of civilians with a level of brutality and malice that is unimaginable. close quote. so, as i said , an upside down world, as i said, an upside down world, as i said, an upside down world, a world in which the truth is turned on its head or turned inside out or otherwise perverted in recent years, statues have been raised in ukraine and in canada, as it happens, to which many nazis fled after the war to honour some of those ukrainians who dunng some of those ukrainians who during that war served the nazi regime. some ukrainian streets

are named for nazi proxies to this day, ukraine, and therefore the ukrainian army has an undeniable nazi problem that azov brigade, now part of the ukraine national guard, being part of it. and so i ask myself, exactly where are we with nazis? dead fathers and grandfathers of ours fight and died to defeat nazis or not? while we're at it, let's not forget operation paperclip when at the end of the war, the united states decided there were nazi scientists and intellectuals in germany in possession of knowledge and skills that outweighed as far as the us administration was concerned, any crimes they may have committed by this means that an unknown number of nazi scientists and thinkers entered the us, placed quietly into academia , research institutions academia, research institutions and into every other walk of american life. so that a lifetime later, a person might justifiably ask, was world war ii, in which the fathers and grandfathers died really about defeating nazis and nazism at

all before hitler and his nazis finally became too toxic, even for them. all manner of the british elite were enthused . british elite were enthused. supporters of his particular brand of fascism . the elite has brand of fascism. the elite has a guiding mission. after all, it's about purity of blood and preserving lineages, which just happens to have been the defining obsession of adolf hitler and his aryans a handful born to rule and billions of pesky, unwanted untermensch cluttering up the joint , cluttering up the joint, consuming resources and otherwise spoiling the view. only the most famous or infamous is oswald mosley, sixth baronet, leader of the british union of fascists . with a family line all fascists. with a family line all the way back to the 12th century. his first wedding, to lady cynthia curzon in 1920, was attended by the king and queen. his second wife was lady diana mitford, daughter of another baron and dedicated fascist . baron and dedicated fascist. diana's sister was unity valkyrie mitford , who joined the valkyrie mitford, who joined the british delegation at the nuremberg rally in 1933 and was described by those that knew her

as, quote, more nazi than the nazis lift the carpet, listen beyond the rhetoric and hardly a staple of the british establishment, is found clean of the fingerprints of fascism from the fingerprints of fascism from the 16th century plantation of ireland to the slavery and segregation of the american colonies, and onwards to opposition to universal suffrage and the rest of troublesome democracy. the self—proclaimed elites have always fought to keep the lower orders, which is all of us, firmly under their boot heels , the theft of the boot heels, the theft of the very land itself, by means of enclosure from the 13th century onwards, meant that by the time of the first world war, 4/5 of the uk was in the possession of the uk was in the possession of the aristocracy. bill gates and his greedy acquisition of more than a quarter of a million acres of us farmland , and the acres of us farmland, and the world economic forum driven grab of the for the farmland of europe is just the latest iteration of the same old determination to rip the good stuff from the hands of the many , and to centralise it in the grip of the very, very few. millions like me were raised to believe the allies fought the

nazis and won the people, people like you and me acted in good faith and then kept the faith. never again . we learn to cry. never again. we learn to cry. never again. we learn to cry. never again. we learn to cry. never again. but i watched the footage of johnson in london and i wondered just what really happened, who won and who lost. what have we really learned? what have we really learned? what are we supposed to think of the agonies of the 20th century? what were they suffered for? here's the thing there can be no doubt that the people of britain , like other peoples around the west and the world, were told their forebears fought and died to defeat nazism and nazis . how to defeat nazism and nazis. how are we, the people of this country, of the west , even to country, of the west, even to know which way is up? if an organisation in direct line of descent from nazis is being celebrated in london within living memory of the days when johnson's hero winston churchill railed against nazism , just who railed against nazism, just who are the good guys and just who were the bad guys ? let's bring were the bad guys? let's bring in lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, defence analyst,

author, writer and broadcaster , author, writer and broadcaster, stuart crawford, what is your assessment of that footage of bofis assessment of that footage of boris johnson in those circumstances ? circumstances? >> the azov brigade is it now is has undeniably , neo—nazi and has undeniably, neo—nazi and nazi affiliations in the past, it was as you probably know , it was as you probably know, raised as a sort of militia in the donetsk oblast to resist the illegal russian invasion back in 2014. and of course, they were unsuccessful in resisting the russian invasion. but i think it was in 2017, the azov brigade was in 2017, the azov brigade was incorporated into the national guard of ukraine. so it became part of mainstream ukrainian armed forces and since then there have been considerable efforts to distance itself from its origins. and of course , the one incident or the course, the one incident or the one event in which they played a major part was the siege of mariupol, where they retreated

into the steelworks and kept the russians out for a considerable penod russians out for a considerable period of time against it has to be said, overwhelming odds before the ukrainian government told them to surrender. so i think that we have to place it in the context of how that organisation has developed. i'm not making any pleas for them. i'm not carrying a flag for them, no pun intended . but i them, no pun intended. but i think that the affiliations with neo—nazism and nazism are, in the past. and certainly, of course, boris johnson is not a neo—nazi or nor would he support any organisation which had such ideology. >> i'll leave that there , for >> i'll leave that there, for the moment, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. but you'll be joining us later in the show. you know, where we can get into, a lengthier conversation on this topic. thank you very much for your contribution so far, though. joining me this evening is broadcaster, author and tv personality and chum ingrid tarrant. hello, ingrid . tarrant. hello, ingrid. >> hello, neil. >> hello, neil. >> this is an extension for me,

really, of the topsy turvy upside down nature of the world. you know, where where, men are really women and the countryside is racist. well, they don't know what they are, and, and all of britain's history and heritage is just shameful. and all of the rest of it . i is just shameful. and all of the rest of it. i mean, do you not feel that you no longer know what are supposed to be the things you can hold on to and count on? >> yeah, unfortunately, we do know as you said, like you were taught and you were grown up to believe this. and you know, never again and so on. but it just seems that the next generation and we are subject to it as well, are being taught a very different story. so it's terribly confusing and you have to stay strong , don't you? and to stay strong, don't you? and focus to remember what really the true story is without them trying to confuse us. that's what it is. because once confused, you know , we're easy confused, you know, we're easy fodder. our minds are being

taken over. and it's true russia was our ally in the second world war. and that's what they agreed to do, because they wanted to prevent nazism from from winning as well. and it was very clear. but it's only to do that and then we'll go back to how we stood before. but they have broken every agreement. they have just got close and close the border and now they're they're on their borders. why? >> i don't understand amongst the long list of things i don't understand , wasn't in 1989, understand, wasn't in 1989, 1990, there was a thousand miles between nato and russia. >> now there's nothing now. >> now there's nothing now. >> why wouldn't you want, you know, if russia was the was the big bad threat. isn't a thousand miles of distance really worth maintaining? >> what you think in that context motivated and all. >> let's get right up. let's get right up to the where we can look each other into the whites of our eyes. >> yes, i know that's aggressive. >> that is totally aggressive and that's provocative of. but also let's not forget that they've got their nuclear plants

there. that's the western world. that's america. and it's the breadbasket of the world. so they are actually they have something to offer. if there wasn't that. and of course, we've got the pipeline going through. that's another strange thing. you know, putin could have just turned off the tap. they didn't need to blow up the nord stream one. and two and then blame. oh no, oh no. we're going really down a rabbit hole here, aren't we? but i get so angry about the way that this is packaged. >> it's an interesting rabbit hole, but we've got a break upon us already, ingrid. after which should primary schools be teaching pupils about gender identity ? you're watching the identity? you're watching the neil oliver show on

gb news. welcome back to the neil oliver show . the government have show. the government have recently released new guidelines

restricting the teaching of relationships, sex and health, education, or rac, as it's known in primary schools . related to in primary schools. related to that, a new yougov survey in the aftermath of that announcement revealed that most britons say that schools should teach about different gender identities . the different gender identities. the purple on that graph indicates those in favour of the red, those in favour of the red, those who are not. basic facts of conception and birth. so 93% in favour, teaching about pornography, 72% in favour and that people can be non—binary, as agenda other than male or female. 60% in favour. okay i'm joined now by doctor anna lutfi, equality and human rights barrister. and it's great to have you here. thanks for having me. just a quick reaction, first of to all, that finding in that yougov poll. however much weight you put on a yougov poll. >> well, the poll seems to suggest that a majority of britons want these things to be taught or discussed . right? and

taught or discussed. right? and of course, we live in a world where these issues are raging around us. and of course they should be discussed . but whether should be discussed. but whether they should be discussed in a way that is one sided or partisan is another question. and i would also like to know what most britain, what most britons think gender identity is, because i don't think anyone knows it's such a, it is such a, it's such a contentious issue that inspires such passions here, there and everywhere here. >> you've been involved in challenging this ideology and the way that this ideology is prosecuted, i suppose. where are we at the moment and how much doesit we at the moment and how much does it matter that these new guidelines have been issued by the government? >> well, you touch on something that's quite complicated and difficult to distil into a short time frame, but you've hit the nail on the head when you talk about guidelines as being issued and then fresh guidelines being issued , because that is indeed issued, because that is indeed where we are at the moment. we were told in 2020 that schools

have to , teach something called have to, teach something called gender identity . they were told gender identity. they were told they had to teach the law and they had to teach the law and the facts about gender identity. as part of the rsc mandate , but as part of the rsc mandate, but of course, as i just said, gender identity is a meaningless term in law. and in fact, and therefore it is a big question mark as to what the government meant when it said, as part of lgbt content integrated through curricula everywhere in the country, schools should teach gender identity legally and factually, and this point was made quite clear in subsequent reaction to the mandated rac guidance, which means that the government has been basically put under pressure to define gender identity. it cannot, nor can any man or woman standing, or any non—binary person for that matter . so what's happened that matter. so what's happened is there's been a revision of the position of the government such that draft, guidance was

published in december 2023, making clear that gender identity is an ideology and that it is heavily contested as a belief system , so rather than, belief system, so rather than, having to teach gender identity as a, in terms of the law and the facts , which is impossible, the facts, which is impossible, the facts, which is impossible, the latest draft guidance , which the latest draft guidance, which was open for consultation and remains draft, indicates a government shift whereby they have acknowledged that gender identity is an ideological belief system. well, if it's an ideological belief system, then other laws must surely kick in, because we do have prohibitions on the promotion of any political ideology in schools, if it's not being taught as something which can be discussed and which can be challenged and which is indeed, challenged by many, many people in the country, notwithstanding the yougov poll for half, primary school children being being taught, what is the nature of

the content? >> how are how are schools confronting this? this ideology? >> well, we've seen it . it's >> well, we've seen it. it's because of the equality act, which includes a protected characteristic called gender reassignment, characteristic called gender reassignment , that gender that reassignment, that gender that protected characteristic of gender reassignment is grounds on which you cannot discriminate against a person, like race, like sex, like age, disability. these protected characteristics are the cornerstones of discrimination or anti—discrimination law, and schools have been told in various documents and communications that they have to because of the public sector equality duty and the equality act. they have to make their schools diverse and inclusive places where nobody suffers discrimination or bullying or harassment on the grounds of protected characteristics. because gender reassignment is in there. that has given carte blanche to schools and other actors operating within schools to what i would say promote the idea of gender identity as an inclusive framework, which has

to be taught to children. however, gender reassignment technically , if you look at the technically, if you look at the equality act, it really is about a formal process of, assigning your sex from one to the other and if we look at the gender recognition act of 2004, that is clearly a legal, recognition act of 2004, that is clearly a legal , formal process clearly a legal, formal process that applies to persons of 18 or oven that applies to persons of 18 or over. so because the equality act is silent on the question of age, and it's also silent on the nature of gender reassignment as a process that is, again, given carte blanche to what i would say, bad faith actors to promote gender identity in schools as something that you can self—declare at any age without any negative consequences . and any negative consequences. and ultimately that has resulted in lots of children questioning their gender, their gender, and becoming disassociated from their biological sex. >> when you when, as you see there are already laws protecting and dealing with all of this, why is the government laying out guidelines? >> why? why doesn't it just

follow the law ? follow the law? >> well, the equality act 2010, which is the legislation i just mentioned, is absent on so many crucial questions when it comes to, whether a child as young as five can be a transsexual upon self declaring that i would say the equality act 2010 on this issue is not fit for purpose. so you would imagine that that would be the first priority of a government that cared about this issue. it wouldn't be in the form of draft guidance, non—statutory guidance, draft or otherwise, or statutory guidance . and what we've seen over the last few years is the issuing of various forms of guidance genden various forms of guidance gender, gender, questioning, children guidance , relationships children guidance, relationships and sex education guidance, draft guidance, open for public consultation. statutory guidance which which schools are obliged to follow as far as is reasonably practicable. and as you say, these are legal questions . what needs to be

questions. what needs to be clarified as a matter of law is where the equality act sits when it comes to persons under the age of 18 who are starting to express a dissatisfaction with their biological sex, which is a highly concerning development in any child, particularly if the child has a history of being bullied, or has autism, or has mental health issues of any other kind. >> ingrid, we were talking at the top of the show about the upside down, not knowing which way is up, feeling that that were immersed in at the moment. how do you react to listening to what anna is saying about this predicament, in which primary school kids are finding themselves? >> i know, but it is so confusing. as you say, the law says one thing, but it's kind of contradicted somewhere else. it's completely wishy washy and unclear , but could then and the unclear, but could then and the 18 is kind of seems to be the key age. so could there not be an introduction of a law because this is really a contentious issue and it's a lot of parents are suffering as a result of it.

their children go into school and then they come out sort of saying, i now identify as a so and so. they've had no part of it. but they've been groomed. i would put it to down almost grooming in school because it's so acceptable and so allowed. but could there not be a protection for children just in, in this particular subject? so up to the age of 18 they are not taught it? i was thinking about this . i taught it? i was thinking about this. i mean, i've been thinking about this a lot and deep and hard, but particularly the days it was a topic and i was on my way thinking if there was a chinese child in a class, does that mean that everybody has got to learn chinese to be inclusive and accept that? because to me , and accept that? because to me, i know it sounds an absurd sort of, example , but it kind of is of, example, but it kind of is as ridiculous in my mind. >> so an arch grooming, that's a that's a very emotive word that ingrid, quite rightly raises there. is it are children being nudged and rather than informed, i mentioned the equality act and

i mentioned the equality act and i said it wasn't really fit for purpose on this issue. >> and i maintain that position. i think it's shared by many, many people, including many parents and teachers. but there is another piece of legislation that no one ever mentions, and it's never discussed. and i don't really know why it wouldn't have been given the spotlight . but when it comes to spotlight. but when it comes to this issue and it and it relates to your point about grooming, the education act 1996 prohibits and that sections 406 and 407 prohibits the promotion of political ideas , which means, political ideas, which means, you know, putting political ideas to children, which are highly contested and divisive, as if there was only one position and there's no debate, and there's no contestation. thatis and there's no contestation. that is political indoctrination. it is prohibited at law. the grooming part of this equation, which you mentioned, has many parents talk about grooming of their children, and many parents talk about indoctrination of their children in schools. the reason they do that is because there

are so many actors coming into schools who are not really known entities. we don't really know much about them. we don't know their qualifications or expertise , but they've been expertise, but they've been allowed to come in carte blanche into schools to teach raisi as consultants and experts, large only because the current status quo legally is so unclear and there are so many loopholes that many, many schools feel completely at sea when teaching lgbt content as part of their mandate . so they asked these mandate. so they asked these consultants to come in, and these consultants are using the opportunity to push and celebrate and affirm trans identity as if it had no safeguarding concerns whatsoever. and as if it wasn't a politically contested issue , a politically contested issue, which it is only because of shortage of time. >> i'm going to have to bring that to an end at the moment. it's such an important conversation and i thank you so much. and it's a conversation that i would insist if you're willing, that we pick up at another time. >> you know where i am, neil, thank you very much. >> thank you know, it's a break after which could national service be good for britain's

youngsters?

>> welcome back to the neil oliver show . now, last weekend, oliver show. now, last weekend, rishi sunak announced that he would reintroduce national service in the united kingdom. labour though, said the policy was ill thought through the proposed scheme would see youngsters required to choose between a year long military placement or having to take part in community voluntary one weekend every month for a year. interesting to say the least. i'm joined now by lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, defence analyst, author, writer and broadcaster. mr thank you for joining me this evening. to good see you again. >> good to see you, neil, for or against stuart , what do you say? against stuart, what do you say? >> oh, i'm hedging my bets here,

i'm, neither for or against, but i'm, neither for or against, but i do see that the scheme may have some merit if we examine it in more detail. have some merit if we examine it in more detail . and of course, in more detail. and of course, the problem is that we don't have detail because . cause it's have detail because. cause it's been very wishy washy in its presentation and the promise of the royal commission to look into how exactly it might work is one thing. but then again , is one thing. but then again, the conservative government may not be in power to set up that royal commission. so it's all a bit hypothetical. having said that, i think a fundamental mistake has been made. presentationally calling it national service because immediately , of unholy immediately, of unholy combination of leftie politicians and bufton tuftons in the leather armchairs in various london clubs are up in arms about it, because it's, you know, compulsory military service is not popular either with the left or the right , with the left or the right, funnily enough. but i think if

we had called it public service and saw the military side as only part of a much bigger picture, then it's worth further exploration. >> my contention though, is national service, public service , however you want to describe it, is a is a positive where you can be confident in the motives of the of the governing group. i do not have confidence in the integrity of the governing group. i point you for example, to the notion that, you know, were you to have a union jack flag flying in your garden in this country at the moment, i think you could expect a knock on the door and questions being asked by the police about hate crime. children are taught to see the history of the of the country, the heritage of the country, the heritage of the country, the heritage of the country, the british empire and the rest of it as shameful. look at the way in which our veterans of the serving armed forces are abandoned on the streets . this

abandoned on the streets. this is not a benevolent establishment, i would say, and i would further contend, possibly , that you might want to possibly, that you might want to you feel free to challenge me that this is the on ramp to what could eventually be conscription or a draft into the depleted services . services. >> well, i take all the points that that you made. i think that we do live in strange times where flying a flag, whether it be the union flag or the saltire or any other flag, can result in a visit from pc plod, plus the fact that there's no doubt that the schools are feeding children with a left orientated agenda , with a left orientated agenda, which is damaging. i think, in my opinion . which is damaging. i think, in my opinion. but, which is damaging. i think, in my opinion . but, national my opinion. but, national conscription is something that has only been invoked in the uk in times of absolute national crisis , the first world war in crisis, the first world war in

1916, when we ran out of manpower on the western front for obvious reasons. manpower on the western front for obvious reasons . and in the for obvious reasons. and in the second world war, when i think the whole existence of the uk was at stake, apart from that, it's and apart from the sort of drawing down of it during the cold war, if you like, between 49 and 62. it's not part of our military heritage, and it's something that the military does not really want, except in time of national crisis. and it's easy to sit and talk about it in the abstract. as i was saying to my children just the other day, but, if you're going to talk about it when cruise missiles are coming in and hitting glasgow, birmingham, in london, then it's a completely different thing altogether . bear with me. thing altogether. bear with me. >> we should just bear with me. just now. ingrid tarrant in the studio with me. what say you? i have deep concerns about the kind of quite frankly, questionable establishment that we have at the moment, questionable establishment that we have at the moment , taking we have at the moment, taking that kind of authority over our

children , you know, when there's children, you know, when there's already been rattlings about the formation of a citizen army and all sorts of renewed and escalated commitment to the to the land war in ukraine, you know what exactly what are we opening the door to here by, by considering this? >> are you saying really a blanket? no. then yourself because of in light of the current situation, national service , public service. service, public service. >> that's a conversation for another day, but not when we've got when we've got an establishment, an ideology that is committed to things that are not about the nation. they're not about the nation. they're not about the nation. they're not about defence. and they are they're being set in the context where our children are not educated by the establishment to be proud of any nation. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, we we've got a massive problem in that respect because there is no national pride going back to the signing up, conscription, whatever you like to call it. i am very much in favour of that for very, very many reasons. but for people now

to go into it, we're completely ill equipped and it would be cannon fodder. and, you know, another thing is this is an r war. if you ask people and did a poll , nobody war. if you ask people and did a poll, nobody would want this. we would go on peace marches actually like they're doing in, bulgaria this weekend, going to have millions. but it is a tncky have millions. but it is a tricky question, but, we'll go back to stuart and then i'll talk to you about other things where i think there's goodness in it. >> stuart, would you hand on heart because confident that this kind of, manoeuvring does not lead to some kind of military service to meet the needs of objectives that are not to do with the defence of this country, but to do with prosecute thing what have come to be called the forever wars elsewhere . elsewhere. >> well, that's a good i mean, that's a very good question. and, i would like to think that it wouldn't put it that way, because as i said previously,

conscription, national conscription, national conscription is only really necessary when we're looking at national survival. having said that, and bearing in mind that the military part of what rishi sunak has proposed and i'm not a conservative supporter, as you may well know, is only a small part of a bigger picture . and i part of a bigger picture. and i think that bigger picture is one where we need to look at what i would call resilience . and i would call resilience. and i don't mean just military resilience, but i mean resilience, but i mean resilience in terms of weather events , health events and so on. events, health events and so on. and so forth. and, and for the past few decades, we've existed in a sort of supermarket just in time model of supply. and that recently has been found wanting across a whole spectrum of different things. and so we need to have some, if you like, redundancy in the system or some reserves in the system so that we can face future onslaughts.

should they come to pass, i'll leave that there just now. >> lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, thank you for your contribution this evening. i know there's such an important conversation, ingrid. i've got another break. >> oh, already? >> oh, already? >> after which should we be concerned about? asian hornets don't go anywhere.

welcome back to the neil oliver show. for the sting in the tail. ha, ha! the asian hornet poses a significant threat. we are told to the uk's wildlife and the royal society for the protection of birds have urged the public to report any sightings to the relevant authorities. people are being urged to report sightings of asian hornets this summer, as nature groups warn of a potential surge in damaging invasive, non—native species . invasive, non—native species. i'm joined now by social media manager at the british

beekeepers association, ian campbell. good evening, ian campbell. good evening, ian campbell. thank you for joining us. >> us. >> you're welcome. good evening. >> you're welcome. good evening. >> where are these insects come from? how have they got here? >> they first arrived, in france, southwest france, about 20 years ago. it's believed from china . and they've spread china. and they've spread through france and a lot of countries . about 14 countries in countries. about 14 countries in europe have had sightings. now and last year we started to see significant incursions into the uk. >> what size of a creature are we talking about here? you know, if it was on the palm of your hand. heaven forfend. >> overall there are big insect , >> overall there are big insect, i mean sort of getting on for twice the size of a bee or a wasp. they're about 25mm long. is the average size of an adult the queens and the males later in the year are a little bit bigger. they're slightly smaller than the european hornet, which is native to this country, which we're not worried about.

>> what kind of wildlife do they threaten ? and by extension, i threaten? and by extension, i suppose i'd have to say, do they pose a threat to you and me? >> to an extent, there is a pubuc >> to an extent, there is a public health risk, yes. to humans. they can get into i mean, in france , there's about mean, in france, there's about 500,000 estimated nests around , 500,000 estimated nests around, especially outdoor agricultural workers can be at risk , the workers can be at risk, the number of serious injuries and deaths is relatively low , but deaths is relatively low, but they do defend their nests very vigorously. and if you get too close to a nest, you can be in trouble . trouble. >> as a beekeeper, you know, you're representing the beekeepers association. we hear so much about the threats and the pressure that the bee population is under all the time, does this just pile more pressure on the on the on the god blessed bee? >> it certainly does. yeah. i mean, there's about 250 species of bee in the uk. mean, there's about 250 species of bee in the uk . asian hornets of bee in the uk. asian hornets tend to. we're now increasingly calling them yellow legged asian hornets because it's a bit more

descriptive . and it separates descriptive. and it separates them out from some other species that aren't in the uk. but these species, this asian hornet is , species, this asian hornet is, if it gets near a honeybee nest, it or a hive, it will hawk outside and it will pick off bees. they like social insects, like bees and wasps. they will also take flies and spiders . but also take flies and spiders. but social insects live in big colonies and it's like an all you can eat buffet for them. and they will predate very heavily on them. >> ian, thanks so much . it's >> ian, thanks so much. it's a worrisome development, i'm sure, for many people, for all sorts of reasons. thank you so much for casting a bright light of attention onto the presence among us of asian hornets. thank you.thank among us of asian hornets. thank you. thank you for watching the neil oliver show on gb news, thank you, ingrid , for being thank you, ingrid, for being with me so far. you can catch the second hour with extended interviews, though, over on gbnews.com. now you know it makes sense .

makes sense. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> hello and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, we've seen plenty of fine weather over the weekend. however, this week is going to be turning more unsettled and a little bit cooler. for today though, we have had high pressure dominating the weather over the uk, but we have had this frontal system move into the northwest and a slight squeeze on those isobars too. so turning damp and rather windy, it is gradually going to be clouding over from the north through into the evening, staying clearest for longest across the south, and we will start to see some outbreaks of rain and drizzle continue to move their way into northwestern

areas, so turning a little bit cooler under the clear spells in the south. but for most, a rather mild night and most places not dropping below double digits. so to start on monday, there will be a little bit of brightness in the south, but as i say, we'll gradually cloud over through the course of the morning, staying largely dry though. however, we will start to see some rain and drizzle move its way into northwestern england, northern parts of wales and quite a cloudy picture across northern ireland and northwest scotland. still, with that rain and drizzle but brightening up through the morning across parts of aberdeenshire. and there will be some sunny spells across the northern isles, but plenty of showers in between those spells of sunshine. overall on monday it's going to be a rather cloudy picture still, with those spots of rain and drizzle in the northwest by the time we reach the afternoon, it may brighten up a little bit across central and southern uk, but most of the sunshine is going to be across scotland. however, quite a blustery day on offer there, so that will just take the edge off the temperatures a little bit. but in those sheltered spots where you catch the sunshine, it should still be feeling warm. now, as we head into tuesday, we

are going to see a bit of a change. further rain moving in from the northwest. quite blustery and plenty of showers behind two. however, it will still be staying dry across the south and southeast and still feeling warm where you do catch any sunnier spells but cooler across scotland , particularly in across scotland, particularly in that wind. and as we head into next week, fairly unsettled. largely dry in the south. but it

gb news. >> very good evening to you. you're watching and listening to gb news. it's 7:00. and the top stories from the newsroom. first, we'll bring you some breaking news tonight from the sporting world. we've heard that rugby league legend rob burrow has died at the age of 41. he was diagnosed with motor neurone

disease in december 2019, and was awarded a cbe last year for his fundraising work to raise awareness for the mnd condition . awareness for the mnd condition. it came just two years after he retired from playing in the rugby league following a 17 year career. includes eight grand final wins, three world club challenges and two challenge cups. well, he spent his entire career playing for leeds rhinos, who announced that news tonight, saying he was an inspiration for the entire country. rob burrow, who has died at the age of 41. well, in some other breaking political news tonight, diane abbott has confirmed that she does intend to run as a candidate for the labour party in july's general election. and that comes after speculation that comes after speculation that she may have been choosing to stand down. the veteran mp has taken to social media tonight to say that she is the adopted labour candidate for the seat that she has held since 1987. it comes after labour leader sir keir starmer said

that miss abbott was