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we honour our greatest generation in the run up to the d—day memorial services and reforms , lee anderson is live in reforms, lee anderson is live in the studio. reacting to polling that puts them just two points behind the tories. plus in scotland is not playing. >> will you support england in the euros? no he doesn't mind being paid by the english taxpayer though, does he? >> and tory government, which is starved our public services and brought the country to its knees services and brought. the country to its knees. the welsh labour leader. they're reduced to tears as he faces being turfed out less than 100 days into the job. on my panel tonight is the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood, landlord and activist adam brooks and author rebecca reid. oh yes, and ed davey has just announced another big policy. here we go . big policy. here we go. >> we will. >> we will. >> get ready britain. here we go

are some illegal migrants ungrateful? next . ungrateful? next. >> patrick. thank you and good evening. well, the latest stories from the gb newsroom tonight are that both king charles and queen camilla were both visibly upset today, heanng both visibly upset today, hearing about veterans experiences of d—day during commemorative events . the royal commemorative events. the royal couple have been in portsmouth , couple have been in portsmouth, marking 80 years since the world war ii operation began , and war ii operation began, and princess anne has been attending a service in france . speaking a service in france. speaking earlier on today, his majesty paid tribute to veterans , saying paid tribute to veterans, saying their stories could not fail to inspire the nation. >> let us once again commit ourselves always to remember ,

ourselves always to remember, cherish and honour those who served that day and to live up to the freedom they died for by balancing rights with civic responsibilities to our country. for we are all eternally in their debt . their debt. >> his majesty the king at the d—day commemorations today. now, in other news, the statistics watchdog is looking into allegations made by rishi sunak that a labour government would push up taxes by £2,000 over four years. the prime minister and sir keir starmer have been clashing over tory accusations of black holes in labour's finances. but until manifestos are published , analysts are are published, analysts are saying numbers can't be clear. rishi sunak claims treasury officials came up with a figure, but sir keir starmer called the prime minister a liar. but sir keir starmer called the prime minister a liar . and in prime minister a liar. and in more exclusive election news, sir keir starmer has also defended his choice to rely

solely on the nhs, despite earning a six figure salary as an mp and opposition leader. in an mp and opposition leader. in an interview with gb news, the labour leader said he has unwavering confidence in the health service and referenced the life saving treatment his mother received. he says it was the nhs that pulled her through. >> i grew up with my mum's suffering. she was extremely ill, she nearly died several times and she was treated on every occasion by the nhs on an urgent basis. i have 100% confidence in the nhs and that is why i wouldn't use anything other than the nhs and i wouldn't for my relatives. but this is a lived experience s for me because as i was growing up, particularly when i was a teenager, i was in the high dependency unit with my mum and we nearly lost her a number of times, but she was absolutely clear that it was the nhs that pulled her through . every time pulled her through. every time i say thank you to them and i would use them when you, sir keir starmer, now in wales,

vaughan gething has lost a vote of confidence in his leadership, something he's called a desperate gimmick by the conservatives. >> the first minister has been criticised over accusations of accepting donations from convicted criminals and misleading the covid inquiry over his deleted messages. he was defeated in the welsh parliament, the senate, today because of two of his labour colleagues who were off sick and therefore didn't vote. mr gething, though, was defiant, saying he wouldn't step down. he was an exercise in muck throwing. >> the range of different things that were said that members know are simply not true is really quite disgraceful . i'm going quite disgraceful. i'm going tonight to normandy. i should have been in portsmouth today honounng have been in portsmouth today honouring our d—day veterans. i will go to normandy to do my duty for my country, as any first minister should . that first minister should. that means a long drive overnight to arrive, to do the right thing tomorrow. that's how i feel

about serving my country. and that's my intention now and for the future . the future. >> and lastly, the first banknotes carrying the portrait of king charles will go into circulation today. notes featuring the late queen elizabeth ii will remain legal tender and co—circulate alongside those bearing the king's image. the new notes will only be printed to replace those that are worn out or to meet any overall increase in demand. in order to minimise the environmental impact of the change. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts . common alerts. >> the people of britain have been unbelievably generous towards illegal immigrants . we towards illegal immigrants. we pay towards illegal immigrants. we pay millions in tax for them every single day . we've given up every single day. we've given up local hotels, local housing, our pubuc local hotels, local housing, our public safety. in some cases we've bent over backwards for them. the people of wethersfield

know this only too well. their town has been turned into essentially a detention centre. they took the government to court over this. they did lose anyway. gb news can exclusively reveal that today some of those illegal migrants decided to conduct a protest outside , conduct a protest outside, blocking roads and causing chaos . sweat, blood, sweat megxit megxit blood sweat% blood sweat blood sweat . the police were blood sweat. the police were called and they tried to deal with it. >> maybe we should cyclo cross . >> maybe we should cyclo cross. >> maybe we should cyclo cross. >> yeah, it's concerning stuff, isn't it? well, hopefully very shortly. i'm going to be talking to a wethersfield resident by the name of dave price , who is the name of dave price, who is with us, actually, dave, look, thank you very much for joining us here on patrick christys

tonight. can you shed a bit more light for us, please? on what was going on there? >> yeah, apparently it was about 70 of them came out and the major complaint they've got is the fact that nothing seems to be happening in terms of the processing. some of them have been there since the camp was opened , and that seemed to be opened, and that seemed to be the main gripe. they had hoped there was somebody from the home office was there, and they were just wanting them to come out and just say a few words. but the home office person decided to stay in, so the road stayed block and then even more police were called, and i think there's about 20 police were up there. and that's when they decided to go back into the base. total fastnesses. yeah >> look. what's it like now living alongside this facility in your area? i know that we've spoken previously as there were plans to do this. and then when they were appeals against it. but we are where we are now and

currently where we are is people sitting outside of that base causing a massive scene, isn't it? >> yeah. the i suppose i will give credit where credit is due. they've not been coming down the village. there's been no problem at all. but that doesn't take away from the fact, you know , away from the fact, you know, the government have spent about £40 million plus on this facility at £5 million when they first came up. the idea , it was first came up. the idea, it was close to break even. so they've wasted 40 odd million pounds plus on this and there's no progress made at all in terms of processing them. so it's just it's a total waste of money and also as well, i'll be quite honest with you up there , it is honest with you up there, it is so isolated i wouldn't i wouldn't put my dog up there if you know what i mean. so i suppose the concern for you really is that this could get even more volatile i suppose

going forward. >> they are obviously very angry and very frustrated. we've got a general election on at the moment and then we'll see what happens after that. let's be honest, it doesn't look like their claims are going to be processed any time soon. i suppose that might be a concern for the local residents as well, i guess. >> so i think some of the residents are concerned that if the rwanda flights ever take off there and they get they get to know that, are they going to start thinking about stirring things up? who knows? but i think i think the main thing is it's a totally it's a wrong place to put them. and it's cost taxpayers , like i say, at least taxpayers, like i say, at least £49 million. we can get hold of how much health is spending on it. we can't get hold on how much the police are spending on it because if police were only funded for a couple of offices, but regularly we have police cars. but regularly we have police cars . ambulances racing through cars. ambulances racing through the village at different times of the day and night. honestly, it's not knew these things going

on up there. it's just it's just been a waste of money. >> yeah, absolutely . look, dave, >> yeah, absolutely. look, dave, thank you very, very much. tremendous time for you. right at the start of the show. good luck and take care as well. that's dave price there who is a wethersfield resident. i'm going to go over and get the thoughts of my panel on this. now is the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood. i've got businessman and activist adam brooks, an author and journalist rebecca reid. yeah. look, mark, i'll start with you. do you think that some illegal immigrants are a little bit ungrateful? i mean, supposedly they've fled war. they've got a roof over their heads, they've got three square meals a day, and, you know, they're not in the worst part of britain, are they? >> yeah. we haven't put on good enough entertainment for them. you know, the pool tables missing a ball, you might say it's that there's one area where i do agree with them though. and patrick, i've sat on this sofa speaking to you about this, these sort of issues again and again and again. the time it takes to resolve it and their . takes to resolve it and their. key complaint here, from what i can understand, is that processing these applications is

taking too long and i think the uk needs to make it very plain to these people. where do you stand? i think the average time it takes to process an asylum seeker application is now 18 months. i've sat here saying it should be three days, 18 days. so they need to be clear where they stand, complaints about their living conditions. it's too isolated . just fall on deaf too isolated. just fall on deaf ears as far as i'm concerned. but speed is important. justice delayed is justice denied . so delayed is justice denied. so i think that we actually need a government that's going to say we're going to make these decisions very quickly. on whether you stay or whether you 90, whether you stay or whether you go, here are your obligations, here are ours, but you won't be in some camp encampment for six months, eight months, 12 months. >> yeah. i mean, i suppose under the current laws, as i understand them, if those people have arrived recently ish on small boats and they should have never an ability to stay in the uk because they've come from safe havens, our problem is that we can't deport them at the moment because of the laws, and that's why we've got to leave the echr and this is where we are. and do you think that

people are ungrateful? >> i think they're terribly ungrateful. they shouldn't be here. they're a danger to our society. many of them, as we've seen by some very high profile cases recently of violence, of murder and all sorts , what murder and all sorts, what happens is that they throw their ids so they can't prove where they're from. they make up a story that is normally told to them by a charity or an organisation. they dupe our home office even if they are denied asylum in this country because of the echr we are bound to look after them. they'll still be fed. they'll still be housed. we are in a position now where they can keep coming, and they will not be deported. let's just remember nigel farage has been warning about this problem for almost ten years. years. he was vilified. now now look how popular that man is. he was right. he was one of the first to say it. we have got a serious

problem in this country and i am scared for my children's future if they keep arriving unchecked. >> rebecca, what do you think when you see people now, you know, shouting outside bases like that, doing protests there about about their conditions. i mean, they are there at the taxpayer's expense, sure. >> but i think dave price had a beautiful read on it. >> i think he was empathetic. he said, you know, i wouldn't put my dog there. it's not the right place for them to be. and i think given that he's the person who lives there and knows the area, he's probably the expert. so i don't think they're being ungrateful. and for instance, if i found myself , you know, i found myself, you know, needing to flee the uk, i wouldn't then want to go and live on a base like that. i'd want my i'd want my application to be processed quickly. i obviously would want to be allowed to stay where i had arrived, and then i'd want to be able to get on with rebuilding my life. and i think the good thing is we can find one common ground here. they want to be processed faster. we want people to be processed faster. >> they want to be accepted faster. >> well, they want to be processed faster either way. >> well, they don't want to be deported. do they? >> but they won't be. i presume

not, but one of the main reasons that people end up staying when they have an incorrect claim is because the process is badly organised, and a lot of the time things get through because the paperwork isn't done properly. the government needs to put money and time into educated people who know what they're doing. handling these claims. >> i do wonder when you when you see that and you think, well, actually they're obviously allowed out. i mean, they are allowed out. i mean, they are allowed out. i mean, they are allowed out. this is the other aspect to it as well. i mean, you know, it's one thing to say, oh, i don't particularly necessarily like the actual roof that's over my head. i mean, there's a lot of scepticism about that to begin with, given the fact that that facility there has got bed, has got food, has got a bit of entertainment, but they can clearly come and go from that place. >> yeah, no doubt about that. and i don't think that there should be luxuries here. i mean i'm not trying to punish these people, but it should be at subsistence levels. but why? >> well, if somebody is fleeing a war torfaen, they're not fleeing war up in the rich. we don't know who the. i would happily put them up in the ritz if somebody you pay for somebody. rebecca we all, we all we all pay for it. but if somebody if somebody leaves afghanistan, which is one of the one of the places people are coming from, i'd like them to

have a really nice time when they get here because they've had a horrible experience. >> in that case. rebecca, go and work for the tourism industry, not the asylum. >> i don't work for either. >> i don't work for either. >> okay. but the idea that our obugafion >> okay. but the idea that our obligation is to give these people a great time when they. >> i just can't understand a lack of compassion processing a human rights case. >> i would put to you. i can't be certain because i've never visited this raf base, nor have iever visited this raf base, nor have i ever visited afghanistan , but i ever visited afghanistan, but i ever visited afghanistan, but i bet this is a damn sight better than afghanistan. but no, no, that is your misunderstanding. >> it's better than afghanistan now. but these are people who had lives and jobs and homes. >> so we're offering them something. >> and not hang on. >> and not hang on. >> they have real lives that would destroy. i've got to come in here because you don't know that in the same way that this all gets bandied around a lot of the time is, well, you know, if people say that these people might be violent or they might be whatever, oh, well, you don't know that for sure. fine. yeah. you also don't know that. what? you also don't know that. what? you don't even know. you don't know anything about this. >> we are all having a hypothetical discussion. no one in this room knows where these

people are. a really good point. any of you know where those people are from? >> paperwork. yeah. i think we've got to be clear about what paperwork we expect from these people. and if there is a supposition that they're throwing it overboard, their claim will fail. they need to establish their own. >> some people do, but lots of people, the viewers need, they've got eyes so they can see that video. >> there is no women and children there. these are fighting age men that have come, come across for whatever reason they've come across for and they are gaming our system to the hilt. the reason these i don't know where they're from, the reason these are pakistan because they're in somewhere rural. they can't go and get a cash in hand job like many of them are promised. the interviews from the calais jungle. they talk of britain as el . dorado because calais jungle. they talk of britain as el. dorado because calais is a hideous place to be. that means a country or a place of immense wealth. they think they are going to come here and become rich. but adam, why haven't they brought their wives and children if they're fleeing war? would i leave my wife and children in a dangerous situation ? dangerous situation? >> no. would you not? would you put them in a boat? no. yes, i would. you would put your wife and children in a boat to cross the channel when they could drown. when the alternative

might be to take a job, make some money and send that money home. >> separate myself from my wife and children. if it was a war zone, or they was in a place where they could be persecuted , where they could be persecuted, i would stand there and fight that on the on the a cursory glance, these all appear to be men roughly between the ages is a male. >> try not to deal in cursory glances. well, it's a male only. that's not our job. >> roughly speaking, this is the evidence before our eyes. >> it's a male only detention centre. so they're all men, right? >> but what do you think are the age of them? what does that speak at all? >> i don't know how old they are, and i can't tell by looking at them. and that's bad journalism to just guess what might be persuasive to you . we might be persuasive to you. we don't know. what would be persuasive would be some actual data about who these people are, where they came from. because if they came from afghanistan, they have every right to be here. >> well, of course they have. no they don't. >> yes they do, i don't i don't want them here. >> but we, we, we helped create the problem in afghanistan. >> neither does the majority of this country want these people in in our country, we don't know what they've done in the past. we don't know their views. hardly any of them can speak english. hardly any of them can speak engush.the hardly any of them can speak english. the ukrainians here, i

want them to be wanted . want them to be wanted. >> but did you want the ukrainians? >> the ukrainians were mostly women that were fleeing a war, but the men had to stay, weren't allowed to leave because they had to fight. men had to stay in ukraine. so we was helping women and children, and i would hope that we would send them to be helped as soon as the war finished. >> okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> why would you leave men to die? >> we are, we are. we are buying our time. we are bang out of time on that. and i will also say there is a concern, clearly, that things could become more volatile as the situation progresses. still to come, as gb news reveals up to six tory candidates are considering defecting to reform , including a defecting to reform, including a former mp. i will ask lee anderson if there is any truth to these rumours. plus, stephen flynn tries to impress his mates in the snp in scotland . in the snp in scotland. >> is not playing. will you support england in the euros ? no. >> all right then we'll stop paying >> all right then we'll stop paying your wages then. all right . but up next, was keir right. but up next, was keir starmer wrong to say less ? starmer wrong to say less? >> i don't use private health. i use the nhs, okay. well, anarchist lisa mckenzie goes

head to head with journalist lowri turner, both of whom have interesting experiences about the nhs. it's patrick christys tonight. we're

gb news. welcome back to patrick christys . tonight. coming up, reform uk's lee anderson gives his take on the westminster whispers, predicting further defections from the tories to reform. and also that news that apparently reform is now just two points

behind the conservatives in the polls. but first, should you pay for private health care if you can afford to, it's time for tonight's head to head . well, tonight's head to head. well, this all stems from sir keir starmer shocking the electorate at last night's leader's debate. with this response . with this response. >> a quick point of information to both of you . if you had loved to both of you. if you had loved ones on a long waiting list for surgery, would you? if you felt that that was the only way forward, use private health care rishi sunak yes. keir starmer no, absolutely no. if your loved one was on a waiting list for surgery, no, thank you very much i >>i -- >> i don't use private health. i use the nhs. that's where my wife works . wife works. >> okay, the waiting list for elective care in the uk currently stands at 7.5 million people, with more than 40% of them waiting more than 18 weeks for treatment. as of march this

yeah for treatment. as of march this year. so tonight i am asking , year. so tonight i am asking, was sir keir starmer wrong to say he wouldn't use private health care? let me know your thoughts. head over to gbnews.com forward, slash yourself or tweet me on gb news. and while you're there , go and and while you're there, go and vote in our poll. but first, going head to head on this a journalist, lowri turner, an anarchist, an academic and doctor lisa mckenzie, both of you, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. laurie, i'll start with you. do you think keir starmer was lying? >> no, no. and i think in a kind of parallel universe where the nhs works really well, then yes, we'd all to love only use the nhs. >> we all pay for it in our taxes.i >> we all pay for it in our taxes. i think it's, you know, we all have great respect for it. >> but the reality is that actually in some situations the nhs doesn't work very well . nhs doesn't work very well. >> so for example, during the pandemic, i couldn't get my son an appointment at a gp. i just couldn't . and in the end couldn't. and in the end i booked a private gp online. and once i'd crossed that rubicon,

now we've had another situation where another one of my kids, kind of adult ish kid needed mental health. mental health help, and i knew what the waiting list are like for mental health help for teenagers. >> and so i, in the end, paid for a private psychiatrist. >> now, would i preferred to get the nhs? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> yeah. but i wasn't prepared to let my family member suffer while we waited. yeah >> look, doctor lisa, i'll ask you this now, you know, would you this now, you know, would you rather a loved one died waiting on an nhs waiting list? or would you go private ? or would you go private? >> oh, of course i wouldn't rather. >> and that's the argument here. >> and that's the argument here. >> it shouldn't be either or what starmer said. and i'm listening . i'm no fan of listening. i'm no fan of starmer, but he is right as a political leader and as somebody that's in parliament, if you use private healthcare or private education, you are basically saying that what we are

providing to the country is no good. it's not good enough. okay. >> and so, lisa, i'm really sorry, but i'm really sorry about this. we're going to come back. there's a bit of an issue with your mic. right. so we'll get that sorted, and i will come back to you. all right. apologies about that. low i'll come back to you. i did wonder when i heard keir starmer say that last night. right whether or not he was a bit out of touch, actually, with the state of the nhs. because, you know, it's one thing to say that ideologically, but if your mum's ill and they've lost her notes not once but twice, and they can't diagnose the problem and you're watching that happen in front of you , you would just go front of you, you would just go private if you could. i mean, you'd move hell and high water, wouldn't you? >> i think i mean, the situation is how much it costs. of course, you know, if it's, you know, a big amount of money, then it becomes a situation. where does the whole family have a whip round? at another occasion this week where i need some very minor surgery and i had to change an appointment. and when they sent me the letter for the new appointment, it came the day after the appointment. and that's really common. >> so there's all these kind of sort of logistical problems with booking with the nhs and

sometimes if you're working or if you even if you can't get an appointment , if you even if you can't get an appointment, you end up going private just because it works a lot better . lot better. >> and that's not to downgrade the nhs, because in an acute situation it's fantastic. >> yeah . and that's a big point, >> yeah. and that's a big point, isn't it? in that life saving moment , very isn't it? in that life saving moment, very often it's absolutely fine. and they resurrect people quite literally . but then there's the aftercare or it's the bit that leads up to that, that it didn't need to get that, that it didn't need to get that serious. and that is the problem. i did wonder, though , problem. i did wonder, though, doctor lisa, i'll bring you back in now whether or not actually we're dealing with a man who's two ideological here. is he so ideological? you know, that people would have to go on an nhs waiting list, you know, just because private healthcare has got the whiff of elitism about it. but actually it's saving lives . lives. >> i think if you're a political leader and you are responsible for running, our contract and running society, if you say that it's not good enough for my family, what you're doing is you are failing everybody in the

country. so i think it's like when diane abbott sent her son to private school , i thought she to private school, i thought she was wrong. but what she was saying was, it's not enough for you lot, but not good enough for my son. now, does that beg keir starmer is the labour party that they say that they're the party of the nhs. so we've got to believe in it. can't say we're the party of the nhs and then not believe in it. so i don't think it's ideological. okay, i think it's ideological. okay, i think it's ideological. okay, i think it has to believe in it. >> all right. i mean the other aspect to this, laurie, is that if you are actually quite wealthy and there's a similar aspect to this tied up in the private schools debate as well, actually, which is if you are actually, which is if you are actually quite wealthy and you can afford to go private, and you know that there are 7.5 million people on nhs waiting list, should you not because you're all paying for that in your taxes anyway. you know, rich people , we still pay for rich people, we still pay for them. you still pay for the nhs, you still pay for the state school system. you know, you could be doing your bit, paying for that and paying the extra to

take the burden off the state sector is there not a kind of duty there, larry? >> well, we hear that argument and it is the same one that's used about private schools. you know , but the argument that this know, but the argument that this is about about schools is that if you have every body using state schools and everybody using nhs, everybody has a stake in it. and those with sharp elbows actually push to improve our public services. >> so actually i would prefer that we all use the nhs and i, you know, grew up in a family where it was like a religion. the nhs. >> but i just feel in the last five years a lot of us have just been pushed into the private sector, lack of staff, lack of money, lack of whatever, lack of accountability is what it is, where we have lack of accountability. >> i'm telling you, i agree with you about certain things there, but it's fundamental lack of accountability . when someone accountability. when someone loses your notes in the nhs or the results of an ultrasound or an x ray don't get passed on, or an x ray don't get passed on, or a mistake happens somewhere along the way, or there's a misdiagnosis there is no accountability at all in the nhs, but in a private business

doctor lisa, you do get that and thatis doctor lisa, you do get that and that is that is why private health care fundamentally is better, is it not? i just wonder if keir starmer is going to come to regret his comments last night. >> i don't think so. he has got to believe in the nhs because it's what we all pay for and we and we should all believe in what you're talking about. there is a failure in structure of the nhs now we're not talking about it . interpretation ahead of me . it. interpretation ahead of me. you know we are paying for the nhs. what we should be looking at is how we get better, how the nhs gets back on its feet again. and rather than just say let's, let's opt term, it's not okay. >> look, both of you, thank you. thank you very, very much. thoroughly enjoyed that good wide ranging chat there about what is a very complicated topic. that's journalist larry turner there, and anarchist and academic doctor lisa mckenzie, both of whom i hope never have to use the nhs anytime soon for sure. so who do you agree with? what's keir starmer wrong to say that he wouldn't use private

health care ever? chris says if millionaires like him use private health care, it would shorten the waiting list for those who couldn't. if he could watch a loved one suffer unnecessarily. he isn't normal . unnecessarily. he isn't normal. i think those are both very good points chris, and says no , it's points chris, and says no, it's a personal choice. at the end of the day, if he wants to make use of the nhs like the rest of us, then that, in my view, is the right thing to do. so yeah, fine. but what what if are you going to see going to watch your mum or your wife or whoever else just, you know, getting bad care, you know, not go private, i don't know. and that says in my opinion he was saying that he thinks what he thinks people want to hear. yes. although i suppose the counter to that is he is literally standing for election, isn't he? so i suppose it will be weird if he didn't do that. but your verdict is now in 87% of you think that keir starmer was wrong to say that he wouldn't use private health care? 13% of you say that he wasn't coming up . an astonishing wasn't coming up. an astonishing admission from met police chief sir mark rowley. he says that his officers are too afraid to take out criminals in case they are investigated for misconduct

afterwards. well, retired officer norman brennan tees off on that shortly. i think it might go a long way to explaining why we hardly get any arrests anymore. but next is nigel farage running reform uk essentially like a one man dictatorship. that's an accusation that's been levelled at them. i will put that to lee anderson. i'm also going to ask him if rumours are true about more tory to his party and get his take the latest polls, which appeared to

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. still to come. do the police now fear the public? more than the public fear them. so, retired police officer norman brennan is going to be talking to us about the fact that the actual head of the metropolitan police has said that his officers are too afraid of misconduct trials to do their job, essentially , which should job, essentially, which should be a concern for us all. but first, we welcome the reform uk candidate lee anderson, and rishi sunak came out swinging last night at the leadership debate as he tackled the key election issue of immigration. >> keir starmer said smash the gangs. >> keir starmer said smash the gangs . we put new laws in gangs. we put new laws in parliament that have now led to almost a thousand criminals and people smugglers being arrested , people smugglers being arrested, serving hundreds of years in jail. because we do need to smash the gangs. keir starmer voted against those laws . so as voted against those laws. so as even voted against those laws. so as ever, you say one thing here, but your track record says something completely different and you can't be trusted to

tackle immigration. >> well, despite this , gb news >> well, despite this, gb news today revealed that as many as six tory candidates are considering defecting to reform after nigel farage became the party leader early this week. and with the deadline to decide falling this friday, say they haven't got long to make up their minds. one of those candidates was thought to be tom hunt, former tory mp for ipswich . he is for now denying that he will defect to reform. but he told the telegraph it's regrettable that we aren't on the same page as nigel farage and richard tice. ultimately, we share many of the same views . and richard tice. ultimately, we share many of the same views. he also went on about migration. lee anderson enters the fray now. are you expecting more tory defections? lee i'm not, patrick, to be honest. i mean , patrick, to be honest. i mean, there has been conversations this week. i'm going to be honest that my phone has been on fire since monday. lots of, calls and text messages from from colleagues who are very concerned about losing their seats. but you know, i think it's, i think it's a case, patrick, if they're going to go down with the ship, that's what they're going to do. they see

they're going to do. they see the writing on the wall. they're not to prepared make the punch. it's a shame, really, because there's a lot of good conservative mps still in the party that deserve to be in parliament after the next election. but the way things are going , they won't be there, going, they won't be there, sadly. >> so tory mps have been calling you and discussing the idea of defecting at least. >> well, they've been calling me and, well, they've been saying things like, please don't stand in my area, please don't stand in my area, please don't stand in my area, please don't stand in my constituency. >> we are good people. we're on the same page. we need to be sat on the green benches in opposition come july. but i'm sorry you know, it is what it is. you know, the conservative party have let the country down. i think the, number 10 has let the country down. and there's going to be a bit of a bloodbath come july the 4th. a political bloodbath, patrick. and sadly, some of my colleagues are going to be looking for work. >> well, well, let's have a little look at that latest polling. so this landed earlier today. polling. so this landed earlier today . labour are on 40. the today. labour are on 40. the conservatives are on 19. reform

are just behind them now on 17. that's up from i2% on friday. okay. the lib dems are on just 10, what is interesting though, lee, is that yeah, you get a bit of a bounce. the way that our political system works, though, is that the lib dems could get 10% and win 39 seats and reform conceivably could win i7% and maybe get 2 or 3 if they're lucky. that is an issue, isn't it ? it? >> well, the momentum patrick is clearly with the reform party. it's going up and up. we've seen the farage effect when he joined the farage effect when he joined the when he joined the race on monday. we've gone up a couple of three points in the polls. he's suddenly made this, election campaign exciting and he was doing the leadership, debates last night with sir keir and rishi. and it was like, to be honest, mate, it was like a couple of pub bores sat in the corner of wetherspoons , boring corner of wetherspoons, boring the whatsits of the whole of the pub.andi the whatsits of the whole of the pub. and i tell you what, if

then paired him in sat in my local pub, they'd have been cleared off pretty sharpish because the pub would have emptied. it was terrible , well, emptied. it was terrible, well, i mean, the results of it were quite interesting . initially quite interesting. initially there was the sunak 51% to starmer, 49, and then that seemed to have shifted today. but i mean, look, i've got to put this to you because gb news is very own. andrew pierce has revealed some of what he would describe as bombshell details. lee behind nigel farage's takeover of the reform party after he ousted richard tice as leader on monday, claiming that tice was blindsided by farage's sudden decision to become party leader . so sudden decision to become party leader. so andrew pierce sudden decision to become party leader . so andrew pierce writes leader. so andrew pierce writes this farage would have found it impossible to pull off such a spectacular coup if he had been the leader of any other party, as they all require their leaders to win over the membership . but reform is a membership. but reform is a limited company, and as farage is the majority shareholder with a 53% holding compared to tice's 33, what he says goes the fact that tice had campaigned tirelessly over the past few

years counted for nothing. so lee, i mean , is the reform party lee, i mean, is the reform party essentially a one man dictatorship slash business about our own technical analysis of andrew? >> not many people do. it's a great presenter, by the way. but when it comes to politics, i think it can be found wanting. look, i think most of the country, as you probably are aware, patrick, are wanted nigel farage to come back. i wanted him to come back and so did richard. this is great news for the reform party and it's great news for the country. and like i say, it's livened up the debate dunng say, it's livened up the debate during this general election campaign. and the country now are taking serious notice of the reform party. >> it's not run like a normal party, though, is it, lee? >> but we're a new party, patrick. you know, we've got limited funds, we've got limited, limited infrastructure , limited, limited infrastructure, limited, limited infrastructure, limited people on the ground, limited people on the ground, limited volunteers. we are a new party. we're trying to find his feet. what we need to do, patrick, is concentrate on winning a few seats in the parliament. you know, come july the 4th.

>> would you. would you not be slightly concerned, though, lee, if you had a massive point of difference with nigel farage? you know , there's no way you can you know, there's no way you can get rid of it. that guy's a majority shareholder . what he majority shareholder. what he says goes, you couldn't vote him out, you couldn't do anything. and you're there and you've just got to. you've got to take the knee to nigel. >> patrick. i had a massive, massive difference of rishi sunak and i couldn't get rid of him. so that's a load of nonsense. you know, the political parties as it is at the moment, you know, have a look at the labour party, have a look at the labour party, have a look at the conservative party. it's rigged. they get the leader that they want, you know, the, the, the members of the conservative party never even got a vote at the last leadership contest. it was rishi or nobody else. it's pretty much the same in the labour party. so you know what? we're a new party. we've got probably the best and charismatic leader in since boris johnson really leading the reform party. we feel incredibly proud. and you look at the polls this week, i've shut up . people are now i've shut up. people are now engagedin i've shut up. people are now engaged in this general election i >> -- >> yeah. i mean it's fascinating, right? we'll have to watch this space obviously. but i mean, one thing you're

absolutely right about is, is liven things up a bit. and i think everybody, whether you're left or right, will acknowledge that. right. but tax was a key issue during last night's itv leadership debate. and it all got a bit weird actually about tax last night. so rishi sunak claims that a labour government would cost working families more than £2,000 in tax. then that was actually questioned by the treasury this morning. in fact, then even the spectator said that's rubbish, keir starmer , that's rubbish, keir starmer, was refusing to say exactly which taxes he would hike. i suspect that the reality is that whoever we get as a government after july the 4th, your taxes are going up. we just don't know how much by and what taxes they are. but lee, your new leader, has said that reform would cut taxes . if you're being seriously taxes. if you're being seriously honest about this, what what taxes are you cutting? have you costed this or are you just saying it? >> well, i think the first the first tax we were looking at cutting. patrick, if we do get into power is the, is the income tax threshold that's going to go up from 12.5 grand to £20,000, and they've been quite clear. richard tice. with the contract

to the people , it's about to the people, it's about cutting government waste. it's about, you know, making it growing the economy in a realistic level. there's lots of ways i've seen it. patrick first hand working in local government, working on the councils, you know, the civil service. we see the nhs, which is wasting billions of pounds every year. this is what this is what the reform party are looking at seriously. we know it happens. we know it happens every single day. there's lots of money in this country to be saved. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. okay. but it is tricky though for you, lee, isn't it. because this election was called and you've got to put a proper manifesto out there very soon. and the big issue for a lot of people is, have you costed this, have you costed it, have you costed. it's not been costed has it. >> well look you know patrick as a conservative, the next conservative and i still class myself as a conservative. i was always told by the senior members of the party, if you like the number 10, that when you cut taxes in this country, it makes it, it puts more money in people's pockets. they spend more money and it grows the

economy. it's the same principle. check the laffer curve out . curve out. >> oh all right. >> oh all right. >> on that bombshell lee. thank you very much. lee anderson. reform uk right. look coming up keir starmer speaks exclusively to gb news after saying that he wouldn't under any circumstances use private healthcare. >> i wouldn't use anything other than the nhs . than the nhs. >> oh, that was brief wasn't it? but next met chief sir mark rowley makes a shocking admission. apparently the first thought of the police officers who tackled a man who allegedly killed a 14 year old boy in hainault was. are we going to be investigated for how it was dean investigated for how it was dealt with? yes, you heard that right. not actually solving that alleged crime or trying to stop it from taking place. so our police officers, now more scared of the public than the other way around. norman brennan is right at the heart of this issue. he joins me live. how are our police have actually been dragged before the courts

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up after he said that he'd never use private health care . has sir keir health care. has sir keir starmer actually contradicted his own shadow health secretary, wes streeting? i've got a couple of clips to show you later on. i think you might enjoy them. but first met police boss sir mark rowley has claimed that police officers are hesitant to take on criminals in case that they are investigated for misconduct. afterwards, he told the london policing board yesterday one impact is officers increasing , impact is officers increasing, hesitant to act. all of our data puts a load of emphasis on their sense of post incidence, whether they are going to get a fair investigation and fear that if i act with good intent, the world could still fall on top of me in an unfair way. i've seen examples where that's exactly what's happened. the whole regulatory approach of policing is misplaced . it makes it too is misplaced. it makes it too hard to remove officers who shouldn't be in policing, and the 99% who are doing a great job. it discourages them from

doing their job, which can i just say should be, you know, a horrific news to all of us. but the met police chief went on to specifically say one of the officers who apprehended the man accused of killing a 14 year old boy in hainault last month , boy in hainault last month, claimed they feared being investigated for how they dealt with that incident. i'm joined now by retired london police officer and founder of protect the protectors, norman brennan. norman, look, this is absolutely horrendous that we have the police who are clearly too scared of lawfare to act . scared of lawfare to act. >> it's as bad as you highlight. patrick it's taken a long, long time for the met commissioner to admit what hundreds of officers have been telling me since he became the commissioner. what doesit became the commissioner. what does it say when you, as a police officer, are called to possibly a life threatening situation against you, your colleagues or members of the pubuc colleagues or members of the public with someone with a knife or a gun or with a weapon, and you're thinking throughout the entire time of dealing with that

incident, if i do something wrong, if a member of the public videos me and puts it on social media, pressure will be put on the commissioner or my chief constable. for me to be suspended. and i think what epitomised what sir mark. sir, what mark rowley has said, patrick, was this a few months ago i saw two firearms sergeants parked up in their big 4x4. i parked up in their big 4x4. i parked up in their big 4x4. i parked up behind them. i was having a coffee and i had a chat with them for 30 minutes. both were pretty experienced. one very experienced, the other 115 years in and i said to them, i said after the shooting of chris kaba, when you get called to a firearms incident, does it ever cross your mind when you pull out your firearm? if you discharge that firearm, the implications and do you know what? they both didn't really hesitate and they said, norman, we do know now that moment of lapse concentration could cost

that officer their life. that is how bad it is. and that is the sort of trouble that policing are in. and they're they're frightened of getting suspended . frightened of getting suspended. they're frightened of getting under investigation. you're under investigation. you're under investigation. you're under investigation now, pat, for 2 to 3 years for a crime or an offence or a discipline allegation on a simple stop and for search two years, three months. two of the officers that i'm actually representing or looking after in the met are broken. they were once strong. they disarmed people, ones in charge of a robbery squad. he messaged me only two days ago. he said, norman, two years, three months. i've gone through hell . he three months. i've gone through hell. he said, do you three months. i've gone through hell . he said, do you know what hell. he said, do you know what all i did for the met police was do a stop and search. and patrick, just before you come back , those two officers were back, those two officers were exonerated by the metropolitan police. yeah, the professional standards. look for all the body worn camera. but the iopc, because the mother wasn't happy about it, insisted the met discipline them. these two

officers from being strong are now on anti—depressants , broken, now on anti—depressants, broken, failed and alone. that's the reality of front line policing. patrick. >> yeah. it's ridiculous. it's absolutely ridiculous . we are absolutely ridiculous. we are a bit pressed for time, but i mean, is this the reality of it, norman, that you go out as a police officer, you're not incredibly well paid. you stop someone because you think you've got grounds to stop and search them, and then someone pulls a camera phone out and before you know it, you wake up two years later, you're now a racist and you haven't got a job anymore. >> yep. all these allegations and often only convenient clips are actually put on social media puts pressure on chief constable's police, crime commissioners. constable's police, crime commissioners . and the thing is, commissioners. and the thing is, pat, is that these police officers are leaving in their droves. stop and search is down from 1.5 million in 2000 and 9 to 500,000 last year, and officers are telling me now, norman, i'm not going to carry out. stop and search. i value my career, my family far more. and the finish off with pat. do you know what it is? the metropolitan police and chief constable's and police crime

commissioners around britain have lost touch with their front line officers, and it's all about corporate image. with the images, police officers are leaving in their droves. >> norman, well said as ever, and thank you very much for that insight. that's norman brennan there, retired london police officer. i'll chat to you again very soon. right. look, coming up, we cross live to the very first house to be liberated in france on d—day. remarkable story that we will bring that to you. but next, starmer doubles down on his point blank refusal to go private . to go private. >> i wouldn't use anything other than the nhs and i wouldn't for my relatives, but this is a lived experience . lived experience. >> but hang on a minute, he's just blown up. wes streeting his argument that we need to stop viewing the nhs as a religion, as ne so are they at odds with each other? there wouldn't be the first time, would it? patrick christys tonight. i'll see you in a sec. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. tomorrow's going to

be another fairly cool day across the northwest with a risk of some further heavy showers, and we could see some further heavy showers this evening with a north westerly wind pushing showers into similar areas. it's northwestern scotland where we're going to see the highest rainfall totals through the next 24 hours or so. we could see a mix of hail, possibly some hill snow in there as well. we could also see some showers as far south as southwestern england overnight tonight. many western areas seeing a bit more in the way of cloud tonight compared to last night. so it will be a bit of a milder night for some of us. but i think still where skies stay the clearest, there's a risk of a rural grass frost. so potentially another chilly start for some areas , start for some areas, particularly across eastern scotland, where it will be a bright start to the day. plenty of early sunshine, but notice we've got some bright colours on those showers showing the heaviness of them through tomorrow morning. we could see some spray on the roads because of that. across western areas of scotland in towards north western england, as well as parts of wales, the midlands as

well potentially seeing some fairly heavy showers. but most of us getting away with a dry and bright start despite the chillier feel to things at the moment. so another fairly cool day to come tomorrow, especially for the time of year. and if you are further north and west, where it will be another showery day, there's another risk of thunderstorms, potentially some hail as well in those showers, especially as we head into thursday evening here. elsewhere across wales, central areas of england and across the south coast in particular, they still feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine. highs of 18, possibly 19 degrees, so that's not too bad for the time of year. now into friday we start to see a band of more persistent rain push across the uk, so that will bnng push across the uk, so that will bring a greater risk of some showery outbreaks of rain a bit more widely across the uk. so a bit more in the way of cloud and it will still be another fairly cool day. but looking ahead to the weekend does look like there's been more in the way of sunshine more widely across the country, and temperatures returning to the low 20s. >> for some of us, looks like things are heating up . boxt things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather

gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. >> i don't use private health. i use the nhs . use the nhs. >> i think he's telling the truth there. i'm not sure. and for those that can't get up out of that ground and they're the ones. of that ground and they're the ones . yeah. we've got something ones. yeah. we've got something very special for you. we're going to be live in normandy as we honour our greatest generation in the run up to d—day. it's the first house that was liberated in france on d—day. we'll be taking you to that. so make sure you stay tuned. also, the latest polls show that reform could overtake the conservatives >> and in scotland is not playing . will you support playing. will you support england in the euros? no i just

mind being paid by the english taxpayer though does he? >> plus tory government which is starved our public services and brought the country to its knees to the welsh labour leader? they're reduced to tears as he faces being turfed out less than 100 days into the job. i've got all the front pages with the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood, landlord and activist adam brooks and author rebecca reid. and here is the lib dems latest policy announcement. here we go . policy announcement. here we go. >> well, we . will. >> well, we. will. >> well, we. will. >> get ready britain. here we go would you let a loved one die on the nhs . next.

the nhs. next. >> it'sjust the nhs. next. >> it's just after 10:00. the latest news. his majesty, the king and queen camilla have joined former soldiers and children in portsmouth today, where thousands of allied troops departed for france on the same day. in 1944. it's been the first of two days of tributes to d—day veterans on the eve of the 80th anniversary of the normandy landings . speaking earlier, his landings. speaking earlier, his majesty paid tribute to the veteran, saying their stories could not fail to inspire the nafion could not fail to inspire the nation in let us once again commit ourselves always to remember, cherish and honour those who served that day and to live up to the freedom they died for. >> by balancing rights with civic responsibilities to our country . for we are all country. for we are all eternally in their debt . eternally in their debt. >> his majesty the king. now, in other news, today the statistics

watchdog is looking into allegations made by rishi sunak that a labour government would push up taxes by £2,000 per family over four years. the pair have been clashing over alleged black holes in financial plans made by labour. but wait until manifestos are published. analysts are saying the numbers can't be clear. rishi sunak claims the treasury came up with the figure, but sir keir starmer has called that a lie . has called that a lie. >> what you saw last night was a prime minister with his back against the wall, desperately trying to defend 14 years of failure, resorting and it was a flash of his character, an insight into his character , to insight into his character, to lies. i don't say that lightly to lies about labour's plans, about health waiting lists, about, you know, the tax lies from the prime minister sir keir starmer. >> now it's been an emotional day in the senate in wales today

, with first minister vaughan gething losing a vote of no confidence in his leadership, something he's called a desperate gimmick by conservatives. he's been criticised over accusations of accepting donations from convicted criminals and misleading the covid inquiry over deleted messages. but he was defeated in the welsh parliament today because two of his labour colleagues were sick and therefore didn't vote. he's defiant, however, mr gething says he will not step down. >> he was an exercise in muck throwing. the range of different things that were said that members know are simply not true is really quite disgraceful. i'm going tonight to normandy. i should have been in portsmouth today honouring our d—day veterans. i will go to normandy to do my duty for my country , as to do my duty for my country, as any first minister should. that means a long drive overnight to arrive, to do the right thing tomorrow . that's how i feel tomorrow. that's how i feel about serving my country and

that's my intention now and for the future . the future. >> vaughan gething now on the campaign trail today , the lib campaign trail today, the lib dem leader said davies been calling for regular mental health mots. it comes as he was forced to apologise for a speeding offence after he was caught doing 73 miles an hour in a 60 mile an hour zone on the m1. he says he paid a fine and had three points added to his licence . going a little bit licence. going a little bit faster, boeing's troubled starliner space rocket has at last taken to the skies today with two astronauts on board. this was the moment it thundered into life and roared off the launch pad . khalife launch pad. khalife. if you're listening on radio, we're watching a dramatic takeoff of the rocket heads into space. a previous starliner mission at the weekend was delayed by a last minute fault, but today's

flight is the company's first attempt to fly spacecraft with its astronauts to the international space station as it steps up its competition with elon musk's spacex s. before we hand back to patrick some breaking news coming to us out of london this evening, residents in hackney have been urged to stay indoors after a fire has broken out there. thick black smoke billowing from a four storey block of flats, prompting a response from 15 fire appliances and more than 100 firefighters. locals describing the scene at the moment as devastating smoke visible across much of that area of the capital. residents have been taken to nearby churches and community centres for their safety. far fighters are working to control the blaze this evening. we'll bring you more on that as we get it. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. carmelites .

to gb news. carmelites. >> would you honestly let's say loved one die on the nhs instead of going private ? sir keir of going private? sir keir starmer came out with this line last night . last night. >> absolutely know if your loved one was on a waiting list for surgery? no, thank you very much i >>i -- >> i don't use private health. i use the nhs. that's where my wife works. in one of the big hospitals. as i say, it runs through my dna . through my dna. >> okay, compare that to rishi sunak. >> if you had loved ones on a long waiting list for surgery, would you? if you felt that that was the only way forward, use private healthcare rishi sunak yes. >> and today sir keir starmer appeared to double down. >> i grew up with my mum's suffering. she was extremely ill. she nearly died several times and she was treated on every occasion by the nhs on an urgent basis. i have 100% confidence in the nhs and that is why i wouldn't use anything

other than the nhs and i wouldn't for my relatives. but this is a lived experience , this this is a lived experience, this for me because as i was growing up, particularly when i was a teenager, i was in the high dependency unit with my mum and we nearly lost her a number of times, but she was absolutely clear that it was the nhs that pulled her through. every time i say thank you to them and i would use them . would use them. >> but hang on a minute because here is shadow health secretary wes streeting saying things like, we need to use private health care and the nhs isn't a religion , it's a service, not a religion, it's a service, not a shrine, we've got to stop kind of just thinking of it as a national religion and make sure that it national religion and make sure thatitis national religion and make sure that it is a, an institution and a system that delivers the best outcomes . outcomes. >> and it's got the potential to do that. >> but it does need reform. >> but it does need reform. >> you've got a situation today where middle and upper class people who can pay to go private are being seen faster. >> i want to see people treated as fast as possible . if there is

as fast as possible. if there is spare capacity in the private sector, we will use it well. >> the current nhs waiting list is more than 7 million people as of march last year , around of march last year, around 140,000 people were waiting over four months for urgent heart treatment. okay 10,000 apparently had waited over a year. apparently had waited over a year . so if apparently had waited over a year. so if your apparently had waited over a year . so if your loved apparently had waited over a year. so if your loved one was in that situation and if keir starmer loved one was maybe in that situation as well , do you that situation as well, do you not think that you might go private if you could? the old nhs classic of myths diagnosis, lost notes, lost x rays ? here lost notes, lost x rays? here are the questions for me. is sir keir starmer out of touch with how bad the nhs actually is? is the ideological and principled he does that? do wealthy people have a duty to go private if they can, and relieve the burden on the rest of us? let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. so i'm joined by the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood, businessman and activist adam

brooks , an author and journalist brooks, an author and journalist rebecca reid. mark i'll start with you. do you think keir starmer is lying there ? starmer is lying there? >> i think technically he is. i don't use private health. he has said. has he ever bought a packet of paracetamol over the counter? that's private medicine that you pay cash for, i can't be sure of that. i mean, it's not surgery, but that's payment for a medicine, i think the ideological mask has slipped here. what would he do ? i don't here. what would he do? i don't know if. i mean, pray to god this doesn't happen, but suddenly a member of his family became immobile. would he pay about £3,000 to put a stairlift into his house or would he write a letter to the national health service asking for one and doing nothing himself until that occurred? it seems to me implausible that this is the case, and the truth of the matter is all of us. i mean, i've given the £7 for a packet of paracetamol example. all of us use private health. and look, if you've got the wherewithal , i if you've got the wherewithal, i don't. i'm affluent but not rich

enough. and you were diagnosed with early stage cancer and you're determined to survive . you're determined to survive. the best thing you can do is to take a flight to the united states of america. and pay a fortune for cancer treatment there. your chances of survival are much, much higher. >> you say £7 for paracetamol? yeah, i just look at it for like £0.42. you can't. yeah you don't pay £0.42. you can't. yeah you don't pay for branded. >> hang on. i just literally googled it. >> no, no i'm not saying you can't. i'm just saying don't because the same it's the same i do wonder i do wonder if keir starmer has had the full nhs experience. >> right. so there's one thing urgent care and i think sometimes the nhs is very, very good at that. if you're literally about to die, sometimes you can you can resurrect him in a way that maybe only jesus christ himself was capable of previously. but it's the stuff in between. it's the lost x rays. it's the lost ultrasounds . it's the seeing ultrasounds. it's the seeing several different doctors and the notes haven't been passed on and they can't transfer pictures from one to another one. if he had, if he had that experience and it was a choice between waiting, you know , a year to waiting, you know, a year to have a routine examination or going private, i am sorry. i struggle to believe that the guy

who could well be our prime minister would wait a year. >> i don't believe a word he says, especially on this , again, says, especially on this, again, we i would chop off my left arm. i'm on the nhs. yeah, to save. they'll do it for you to save whatever a dodgy toe to save my child or my mother. >> or what illness do they have that they need? >> your arm. look i'm trying to make a point here. i would do anything to save a loved one from dying. yeah, and for him to come out and say that i think he's mugged himself off. he's embarrassed himself . i think embarrassed himself. i think people look at him and think, why should i believe you on anything else? look, at the end of the day, i've been lucky enough to be able to afford private health care for the last ten, 15 years or whatever. yeah, i will continue to do that because i would like to think if something happened, i could get my child seen straight away . i'm my child seen straight away. i'm paying my child seen straight away. i'm paying twice my taxes and i'm

paying paying twice my taxes and i'm paying private health care. surely i am helping others to be seen quicker by doing that. all right . right. >> so that's an interesting that's an interesting point to get your views on this. >> so i don't think that he is lying. i think because he wants to be prime minister he absolutely wouldn't do that. so i think it's true in that sense. but also he didn't privately educate his children. as far as i know, which is a lot of labour politicians can't swallow that bitter pill of using the system they say we should all use. so he is consistent in that belief. ihave he is consistent in that belief. i have used private health care for my child because largely because i wanted to be seen on a day or a time that suited me because i work, not because i wanted to jump a waiting list. i have to say, i also considered giving birth privately because i wanted to have an elective caesarean, but actually the outcomes are worse in private hospitals for birth. there emergency system is not the same. they don't stock as much blood. if you need a transfusion . so there are lots of places in which private healthcare isn't better. so i think when we talk about urgent care, the nhs is amazing and for emergencies are incredible. i do understand if you need a hip replacement and you're in a lot of pain if you can afford it. i don't see anything wrong with paying most.

>> most healthcare isn't about emergencies. there are terrible cases. you've been involved in a car accident. we need to give you a blood transfusion. but awful lot of health care is. i need a hip replacement. >> i think it's or i've got an aching back hernia. >> yeah i know, yeah. >> yeah i know, yeah. >> i think honestly, if you're under 40, i have never used the nhs for anything other than pregnancy or emergencies. i don't think most people, most of the nhs bill is for people over the nhs bill is for people over the age of 40. >> that's when you start to get, bigger problems and going back to adam's point, i mean, the bit that i think people worth as much as keir starmer, i was trying to find out how much he's worth, i don't know, 5 million, 7 million? 10 million. it's not only should you do this in the interests of your loved ones, i think you have a moral obugafion think you have a moral obligation to. i renewed my private health care 24 hours ago, i'm not a mega rich person, but i can afford it. i think i should get out of the queue . i should get out of the queue. i wouldn't force people to do this, but i think it's an honourable thing to do. not just to look after yourself, but to actually make sure the waiting list goes down. >> let's be honest, what keir starmer is doing here. he's done

it with private schools. they're trying to demonise people that that pay to send their kids to private schools, pay for private health care. they're virtue signalling to their less well off voters. and at the end of the day, we are paying twice. i've got my kids in private school. i can't afford it much longer. they're coming out next yean longer. they're coming out next year, but i pay for private health care. i pay for private schooling. i'm paying twice. thank you. i just demonised me. >> i don't think there's much. there's much. there's much moral, moral ity, i should say about the idea of, ideologically refusing your wife to go private. >> no, i think, well, the idea that he would be his choice , that he would be his choice, well, his wife did for health care is wildly problematic. the only sensible answer to that question is it would be my loved one's choice. i am not in charge. but there are issues with getting things that other people can't have because you have money. that is an issue fundamentally. >> let's hope he doesn't have a loved one that needs we are we are going to for a very for a very good reason. >> i'm afraid we are going to have to draw a line under this

now because, coming up , this now because, coming up, this isn't it, by the way. but coming up, he was celebrated as the first black political leader in europe when he took up the mantle of the welsh first minister some 12 weeks ago. but today, vaughan gething sobbed in the senate as a no confidence motion was voted through against him. >> tory government, which is starved our public services and brought the country to its knees services and brought the country to its knees. >> well, there he is. but this is the good reason why we're knocking that first bit of the show on the head slightly early. we cross live to normandy, where ellie costello continues her extensive d—day coverage. she's going to report from the very first house liberated in france as british and american troops secured the famous pegasus bridge in june 1944.

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages are coming in very, very soon. but gb news is continuing its coverage of the celebrations to commemorate the celebrations to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the d—day landings. the 80th anniversary of the d—day landings . and i'm very d—day landings. and i'm very pleased to say i've got something really special lined up for you now, because we can cross live to gb news presenter ellie costello, who is in normandy for us and has been doing some absolutely fantastic at times. i must say, ellie, deeply moving reports from us. can you just explain to us a little bit about where you are now, what's going on? >> hi, patrick. well, today has been deeply moving . we've been

been deeply moving. we've been at the war graves, the war cemetery in normandy, and there's been such a contrast between today and tonight. we're here in pegasus bridge in normandy. i just want to show you how many thousands of people have come out to pegasus bridge tonight . have come out to pegasus bridge tonight. right. and it is the scene of jubilation. you might be able to hear the pipes, bands. people are here drinking , bands. people are here drinking, having a barbecue. it is really a scene of jubilation and joy and celebration . people coming and celebration. people coming from all over the world, generations are here and they're here, patrick. because that bndge here, patrick. because that bridge , which you might be able bridge, which you might be able to catch just behind me here, is where british troops, british airborne troops landed at 2316 local time on the 5th of june, 1944. this bridge was of strategic importance to the allies. they knew if they didn't secure this bridge, there would be no point to having an

invasion on the shores of normandy, because the germans could quite simply cross this bndge could quite simply cross this bridge and take on the allies. they knew they had to secure this bridge. so this is where d—day started, and it's the unknown story that many people don't appreciate. so this is where it started. and as british troops came down, if you come with me , they came down to this with me, they came down to this building here. patrick, this is cafe gondry. it is the first building, the first home, the first family that was liberated by by the british troops. and earlier we spoke to madame arlette, who was just a four year old little girl. on that day, on the 5th of june, 1944, when those british troops arrived in her home. i spoke to her a little bit earlier on, very grateful to the british, who have risked their life to give us the freedom which we all enjoy today . and tell us about enjoy today. and tell us about what you did with the british troops , because your family did troops, because your family did something very special to those men that came in and liberated

you. >> that is absolutely right. my father had hidden his wine, his champagne and liquor. so the germans would not find it, or he would be forced to sell it . and would be forced to sell it. and so in the garden, almost 3000 bottles. but when the british troops arrived and also to say thank you to them, daddy , they thank you to them, daddy, they said to the british soldiers who were digging the trenches , dig were digging the trenches, dig it up. it's all for you. so that's the reason why the champagne ceremony is specific to the gondry's at cafe gondry . to the gondry's at cafe gondry. >> well, patrick, it was such an honour to meet madame arlette. she said that she really enjoys meeting the british veterans every single year. she says she has a special place in her heart for the british. because we have a real respect for history and a real respect for what happened here. and as we speak, actually, in the past five minutes or so, that champagne toast has started in cafe gondry with madame

arlette. she has opened her very best bottle of champagne for the veterans and it is so sad that that number of veterans is dwindling. every single year we are losing more and more of that great generation. but she said to me a little bit earlier on, now , now is the time to start now, now is the time to start passing on that light, start passing on that light, start passing that torch to the next generation. and tonight, patrick, we can see the generations that are united to remember what happened here, the start of d—day , the start of the start of d—day, the start of the liberation , and of course, the liberation, and of course, the start of the end of the second world war. >> look, thank you very, very much. really incredible stuff that you're doing for us over there and so important as well. and i just think there's something about it. every single time i hear people like madame arlette talk, it just starts to bnng arlette talk, it just starts to bring a tear to my eye. so

ellie, thank you for everything and yeah, keep doing what you're doing over there . that's ellie doing over there. that's ellie costello, gb views presenter. really, really moving . so it really, really moving. so it just gets me every time. when you hear people like that, i think i talk about it doesn't say, you know, she was mentioning there about it's important to try and pass that stuff on and really because there are tragically every single year there's less and less of these people, aren't there ? your family, i believe, there? your family, i believe, has got a bit of a link to world war ii, as it were. >> yeah, i'm a little bit i mean, the incredible thing about d—day, of course, is the bravery and the courage. not just the military operation. my grandfather, though, i checked the details of this just earlier today, was an admiralty scientist. he was particularly working on radars and beams and the rest of it. my cousin has written a book called the battle of the beams. this was desk work. it required intelligence, not bravery, but i think it's widely considered that it helped shorten the war. no bravery , no shorten the war. no bravery, no courage. wasn't risking his life like the brave people who, you know, were. we're remembering for that start of the liberation today. but, you know, everybody

did their part. and patrick, you're right. i think it's going to become harder and harder to keep this story alive. we see all of this stuff about people not knowing what d—day is. yeah. and the rest of it. and whilst we've got these people on television who are able to enunciate it, it's television who are able to enunciate it , it's terrific. but enunciate it, it's terrific. but in ten, 12, 15 years time, we're going to have to make a bigger effort to keep the story alive. >> we'll always have this is the this is the beauty of modern technology because we will always have clips of madame all out there talking. that's the inside of that cafe, by the way. so she is currently doing the champagne toast to the british, for helping to liberate her. and adam, it is so important that we make sure that we honour these traditions. i think 100. >> you know, i don't think i could have done that. these men were true heroes. this is where men were really men. imagine how brave you've got to be rocking up to a beach under massive gun fire and mortars. i mean, it makes me go cold now, thinking that i'd have to do that on my children would have to do that

because i don't know if i could, you know , and these, these, you know, and these, these, these men not only fought for our freedoms, they fought for future generations , freedoms. we future generations, freedoms. we wouldn't be sat here now if they hadnt wouldn't be sat here now if they hadn't won that war. yeah. and some of them paid the ultimate price. and for that they deserve to be immortal, you know, immortalised in history. >> well, and i heard an interview that ali did earlier. i would urge everyone, if you are on social media, it's just go and have a little look at that, which was a gentleman who is now very old, who was, i think he said 19 on d—day witnessed it all, saw all of the horrors, then saw all the heroism as well. and he said that he's there at the grave sites because unfortunately there are, as he puts it, a load of men who can't get up out of the ground anymore. and it's important to remember them, i think. >> absolutely. but i also think it's really important to remember that they didn't. this wasn't like a video game. this isn't something we could glorify . they were incredibly brave. and it matters that we talk about it, but it also matters that we try and stop it from ever happening again. and i

think occasionally there's a section of people who look back at it almost with nostalgia, like it was a great time for britain, and it wasn't a great time for britain. people's children were dying. people were losing loved ones every day. so never again. and that's what wilfred owen and siegfried sassoon wrote war poems about for a very good reason . so yes, for a very good reason. so yes, they were incredibly brave. but let's try and make sure that we never have to be that brave again. >> yeah, i mean, we yeah, we hopefully never have to live through or witness anything like that, but look really important to remember that and make sure that you do keep it gb news over the coming days, because we are really going to be trying to do our best to highlight everything thatis our best to highlight everything that is going on in normandy, just to commemorate d—day, and to try to keep that that memory of what happened and the ultimate sacrifice that people paid and the evil that they were fighting against alive. but look, coming up, gen z's anti—semitic underbelly laid bare. i mean, the contrast between what we've just been talking about in this, by the way. but get this a shocking poll reveals that 54% of young brits think israel shouldn't exist. how have we got to this point? like i said, the contrast between those two stories plus

vaughan gething sobs in the senate after losing a no confidence vote tory government, which is starved our public services and brought the country to its knees services and brought the country to its knees, there we go. a bit of labour chaos in wales, but next deliver the rest of newspaper front pages with my

welcome back to patrick christys . tonight, in my hand, i have the first of tomorrow's front pages. let's do it . all right, pages. let's do it. all right, we go with the daily mail as veterans move the queen to tears at d—day ceremony. king pays emotional tribute. our eternal debt to the fallen heroes. it's a d—day front page. the picture story. there is of camilla, queen camilla with tears in her eyes. oh i like the front of the daily express. the daily express eternally in their debt and a picture of peter smoothy, 99, at

juno beach in normandy yesterday. yeah, look at that. i mean, that says it all, doesn't it, really? i think that actually really, really moving stuff , let's go to the metro. stuff, let's go to the metro. camilla's tears for d—day hero . camilla's tears for d—day hero. yeah, obviously there is a theme on the front pages here. it's the 80th anniversary of the normandy landings. i'm lucky to be here, but my best pal fred never made it. says one of the veterans here, it reflects. yeah that's. it says it reflects, the fight that they fought against, let's go to the independent, so they've got queen's tears for fallen d—day hero. 80 years on, she spoke to a chap called eric bateman . apparently, he was bateman. apparently, he was giving a very moving account of his day. they also have another story on the front page there. treasury trashes rishi sunak over labour tax claim. i'm absolutely certain that every single one of you has been made aware of that story since you first woke up this morning. so, possibly a little bit out of date, but nonetheless. £2,000 tax claim from rishi sunak ,

tax claim from rishi sunak, being largely thrown into the toilet by the treasury, daily telegraph this, for me, is the most interesting front page of the day . hunt issues challenge the day. hunt issues challenge to starmer over taxes on property. now this is where it's getting quite spicy over tax . we getting quite spicy over tax. we know that they're saying, oh well we're not going to raise your income tax. we're not going to raise your national insurance. we're not going to raise your vat fine . do they raise your vat fine. do they think we're stupid? because there is a world of other things that could be taxed out there, and i suspect they're going to do pretty much anything. draw your curtains on july, july the 4th or july the 5th, look around and if it can be taxed, i suspect it probably will be, reform closes gaps on tories to two points after farage is returned. is there other story? i'm focusing on tax first. look, there are an unbelievable number of tax taxes. stamp duty corporation tax, inheritance tax. i mean, george osborne was talking in a podcast with ed balls, right . yet another one of balls, right. yet another one of those podcasts. we need more, don't we? we need loads of them. so actually, he thinks that if the tories really wants to win this election, they should do

away with inheritance tax. are we there? >> well , i'm we there? >> well, i'm not so sure about that. i mean, look, the problem with this dance of the seven veils, patrick, is you can't just say, well, we promised not to increase vat. you say, okay, well, it's going to be some other tax you're going to put up.then other tax you're going to put up. then even on income tax, you get into this position, we won't increase income tax. but then they cheat by freezing the thresholds because 12.5 grand in five years time is not going to be worth anything like the same. now for older viewers, might remember all the way back to george bush senior saying in 1988 when he went into the election, which he won, read my lips, no new taxes. they then put taxes up . and his defence put taxes up. and his defence was these weren't new taxes. these were just old taxes going up. so here's the problem. somehow if you want to spend more money, and politicians of all stripes seem to be rolling out all sorts of spending plans. i haven't heard from any politician what they're going to cut. well, somehow or other you're going to have to tax more. >> can i just read something? so this is a quote from jeremy hunt

. he says, i am throwing down the gauntlet to rachel reeves and sir keir starmer. join us in this pledge, apparently the pledge is this jeremy hunt has challenged sir keir starmer to explicitly rule out property tax increases if labour wins the election. so be interesting to see if keir starmer takes him up on that challenge. but for me, the big story is this whoever you elect on july the 4th, your taxes are going up. and i think, adam, that the social contract in this country has been completely broken, whether it's £2,000, whether it's £3,000, it doesn't matter. your life will not get better as a result. >> how can we get children and the youth of today to aspire to do better for themselves and get on when they know that they're paying on when they know that they're paying most of their money out in tax in one way or another ? in tax in one way or another? anyone that doesn't think that labour are going to put up taxes is living in cloud cuckoo land. of course they are . and they're of course they are. and they're getting spiteful with, private schools. you know, we've seen

keir starmer's comments about private health. do you really think not think they're going to come for our houses and our inheritance to our children? of course they are . they're spiteful. >> i mean, the flip side. and that's what's going to happen . that's what's going to happen. flip side of that is that which which keir starmer did say last night is the tories have raised your tax 24 times or 27. and that's a that's unforgivable as well. >> absolutely they have. but also to me labour are going to tax the right people rather than the wrong people. so for instance, if they did stamp duty it would be probably on on higher value properties, not people buying their first house. if you are buying a £2 million house, then either you can afford more stamp duty or you can't afford the house. them's the breaks. but realistically, the breaks. but realistically, the more money you have, the more tax you should be paying. inheritance tax only affects 4% of people. if you are lucky enough to be inheriting that much money. >> that's very misleading though, isn't it though because of property prices. so it's basically if anyone now owns a property outright which loads in london will know. excuse me, there's loads of 100,000 £400,000. >> is that's a very expensive. >> is that's a very expensive. >> you don't get out of london much and now you've just revealed. >> no, sorry, you've just

revealed. >> i'm sorry. there are loads. >> i'm sorry. there are loads. >> so you think the average house price across all of uk is above 400,000? >> north of england, where actually the average person's house pouring gravy on our chips . there are loads of places where house prices are. if anyone bought the slanderous because i'm in a relationship with somebody from yorkshire, i go there all the time. >> fantastic. some lovely party where i am . it's lovely, it's where i am. it's lovely, it's wonderful. it's much nicer than london. i am fully aware. i am saying that the average house price is different. the average person does not own an outright property above £400,000. that is why only 4% of people would pay inheritance tax right now. now. >> but we go through life. you buy a packet of or you buy some goods, you pay that you know, you earn an income, you pay that , you buy a house, you pay vat, you pay , you buy a house, you pay vat, you pay stamp duty, we die and we have to give the tax to the government. >> loads of money is disgraceful. >> it is loads of money. here's the here's the problem though, right i have. it would be lovely. it would be lovely that we could live in a world in which we just ask the millionaires and billionaires to pay a

millionaires and billionaires to pay a little bit more, and before you know it, the nhs crisis is solved. our schools there are not enough millionaires and billionaires and these people are unbelievably mobile . if their unbelievably mobile. if their taxes go up, they can move out of the country. >> i always say that and it doesn't happen. well, it does happenin doesn't happen. well, it does happen in scotland right now. >> it is happening. >> it is happening. >> losing more millionaires from this country than russia are at the moment, moving their assets. >> it is wildly unlikely. and also then you make it an appealing place to live culturally. it's wonderful. it's people's home. people don't leave . leave. >> i feel. so i'll tell you what. when i step, if you step out of this, you don't love your london culture. i tell you , i london culture. i tell you, i don't think london has great culture. i think the culture in london is going in the toilet. you can just keep, you know, you in london after. >> let's try it. we've never tried it. >> we are trying it right now. >> we are trying it right now. >> we've never tried it properly i >> -- >> all right okay okay okay. sorry i appreciate this is entirely my fault, but it's getting far too rowdy, right? welsh first minister vaughan gething has only been in the job 12 weeks, but today he sat crying in the senate after losing a devastating no confidence vote. gething became

the first black minister of wales and indeed any european country . apparently when he took country. apparently when he took over from mark drakeford in march after a series of scandals, including a controversial £200,000 donation to his leadership campaign from a man convicted of environmental offences and accusations that he misled the covid inquiry over deleted messages. gething is now under pressure to resign when i'm out knocking doors in the colne valley and speaking to people there, as i am every weekend and increasingly now on weeknights to the issues that they want to talk about are clear. >> a cost of living crisis, tory government, which has starved our public services and brought the country to its knees services and brought the country to its knees . to its knees. >> pathetic? >> pathetic? >> no, not pathetic at all. the idea that if you see a man crying, you're out like this. thatis crying, you're out like this. that is one of the reasons a man is leading a country. we should just depends why he's crying. >> sorry. he's crying at self—pity. >> i don't care crying about the d—day. >> this is so much meaner than they would be to a woman. and

that's exactly why men don't feel able to talk about the mental health issues. >> maybe i'd be too afraid to. i'm waiting for the racism angle here. you know, i'm surprised that isn't being bandied about by the left. >> we will wait and see. we'll wait and see where we are now. moving on. oh no. not quite moving on. 29 members of the senate voted in favour of this motion of no confidence in gething, while 27 voted against. the vote was non—binding . keir the vote was non—binding. keir starmer, meanwhile, has given his backing to gething. i'll do the world of good, telling reporters on the campaign trail that he was doing a good job. but sir ed davey was out and aboutin but sir ed davey was out and about in romsey today, launching the liberal democrats social care policy. >> more people to have high quality care and that means we need more care workers. so we're arguing that they should be paid better because there's not enough of them. and people are choosing to work in other places, not the care system. >> and we think we need free personal care like they have in scotland. >> we want to introduce that in england because that will help with the care costs of many people. and we want to support family carers more . so care is

family carers more. so care is a massive part of the liberal democrat agenda at this election. >> but of course there are ed davey ended up doing what he does best. here we go . does best. here we go. >> we will, we . will. go. we >> we will, we. will. go. we will, we will. boop boop boop boop. will, we will. boop boop boop boop . we will, we will. boop. we will, we will. >> look, i'll just ask this. has anyone checked that ? dave is anyone checked that? dave is actually all right? like in the last. oh, we keep thinking he's doing these stunts. right. and actually, i'll emerge in a few weeks time. that has been something a bit off. but anyway, that was ed davey there, and i am of course only joking. he's been lighting up this campaign now coming up, tonight's greatest britain and union jack has republican firebrand marjorie taylor greene has been letting rip at anyone that will have it. >> you have jamie raskin in there accusing us of worshipping trump , worshipping a convicted trump, worshipping a convicted felon. well well, yeah. so was george floyd .

george floyd. >> oh, plenty more of that to come. but first, 54% of gen z brits say they don't think israel has a right to exist. shocking stats. and we talk about that potentially lost generation

next. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight, it's time to reveal the latest of tomorrow's front pages . okay, so it's the front pages. okay, so it's the daily mirror now . d—day, 80 daily mirror now. d—day, 80 years to those who served and those who died. thank you. there's a picture of alec penstone there in normandy , the penstone there in normandy, the i at last a real plan to save britain's rivers. every political party in the uk is challenged to sign up to our manifesto and leave a legacy of generations to come, they've gone for river health, sewage, a

watchdog, bathing. so create 100 clean bathing spots and farming farmers funded to improve water quality, i yeah , i think this is quality, i yeah, i think this is right. i think the i have just done their own manifesto on clean rivers, so. all right. it's not what anyone was asking for from the ai, but they've doneit for from the ai, but they've done it anyway. we're gonna do it anyway. anyway, the times we will tackle murder, law, loopholes, vow tories tougher sentences for domestic abuse killers. okay very serious story on the front of the times. their royals lead emotional d—day tributes to the other one. the guardian sunak lied to country over labour tax and spend plans, says starmer at confidence vote lost for welsh first minister and scientists hailed bowel disease discovery . they're also disease discovery. they're also a story there, which is interesting about why our run as an independent candidate, faiza shaheen on labour and deselection. she was the one who was crying on newsnight and now she's going to be it appears, definitely not crying in the pages of the guardian tomorrow .

pages of the guardian tomorrow. so you can read that if you want. i'm joined again by my press pack, director of popular conservatives mark littlewood, businessman and activist adam brooks, an author and journalist rebecca reid. now serious story. that's quite a shocking one. young brits obsession with the conflict in gaza has led to some stark findings from a poll conducted by unherd, apparently, 54% of 18 to 24 year olds agreed with the statement that the state of israel should not exist, just 21% disagreed. this comes after another poll that found that 50% of young people blamed israel for the war in gaza , only 25% blamed hamas. gaza, only 25% blamed hamas. well it begs a series of questions. one of them is, have we bred an anti—semitic generation? and what does this look like for the future , mark? look like for the future, mark? i mean, i genuinely fear for the future of britain, especially when you consider what's on the front page of the newspapers, what we fought against. right. and now you've got 54% of people that say israel shouldn't exist. >> yeah . let me there's

>> yeah. let me there's a technical case here. you can technically be against the state of israel and not anti—semitic. so there's a difference between, you know, zionism and anti—semitism. but it seems to me there is a problem here. and for these 54% who don't think the state of israel exists , what the state of israel exists, what do you think we should do with the 9 million civilians in israel, including many muslims ? israel, including many muslims? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> live in israel. where should they be located to? yeah and i just worry. look, i mean, i'm i'm a supporter of the state of israel. i don't think they get everything right. far from it. i'm not an enormous fan of benjamin netanyahu , but it seems benjamin netanyahu, but it seems they are under such a microscope in a way that the surrounding countries are not. and unfortunately, i wonder whether our youngsters just here are cross examination of any misstep israel makes , and not enough israel makes, and not enough about some of the things going on in iran. >> yeah, well , quite i on in iran. >> yeah, well, quite i mean, there is there is a huge amount of hypocrisy there. i hope you don't mind, but i'm going to start with you on, on a different topic. so i want to

rattle through this and get this in. so critics reckon that the snp's stephen flynn might have secured or scored a spectacular own goal by refusing to cheer on england in the upcoming european championships when scotland aren't playing and scotland is not playing. >> will you support england in the euros ? no. or will donald the euros? no. or will donald trump be welcome in scotland if he wins the election? yes you just watch the head to head debate between keir starmer and rishi sunak. who do you think won? >> i don't think the people of scotland won because i don't think scotland was mentioned once. >> okay, so apparently he didn't really learn from andy murray's infamous 2006 gaffe when he jokingly said he would support anyone. england was playing against, despite clearly talking in jest, the comment saw murray take years worth of stick from the english media, so there we 90, the english media, so there we go, adam. you know that guy does get paid partly by the english taxpayer. >> look, at the end of the day, he is scottish and there is a big rivalry in scottish and

engush big rivalry in scottish and english football. the majority of football fans in scotland would not support england. i think that's a fact. at the end of the day, i'd like to see scotland do well, but if they, you know, if they was playing france or belgium or some germany, i would probably want scotland to win, i would am i bothered if they go out in the first round? no disrespect to the scots, no i'm not. >> i wouldn't support them at that time. wales did really well. come on. what euros this was now. but they did really got to the quarter of the semis didn't they. and that was great. it was fantastic, do you think he's scored a bit of an own goal there? does he just look kind of spiteful and vindictive? >> i mean, i'm not really in a position to judge anybody for taking money from people they disagree with. so, i think it's fine to get paid by somebody who you wouldn't necessarily support. okay. >> but patrick, he's been honest as well. he's been he's been honest. >> unlike keir starmer, he's being honest. and at the end of the day, it's the view of most scottish football fans. all right. >> fair enough, fair enough, fair enough. it's time to reveal today's greatest britain union jackass right. let's be snappy

with these people, mark your greatest britain. >> okay. little known chap passed away aged 99. not a d—day veteran, but his name's william russell, one of the great heroes of british television . appeared of british television. appeared in the first ever episode of doctor who reprised the role 5758 years later was in the great escape, one of the great movies of all time. william russell unsung hero of british tv. >> all right, strong star. >> all right, strong star. >> honorary nomination is marjorie taylor greene for absolutely giving it to fauci in the us court. we've got, we've got we can hear masking children and all these authoritarian covid rules . covid rules. >> let's do it. >>— >> let's do it. >> and your science here, your science does displayed perfectly in this picture . we're children. in this picture. we're children. children in school were put in plastic bubbles because of your science. do the american people deserve to be abused like that, mr fauci? because you're not

doctor, you're mr fauci. in my few minutes . few minutes. >> oh, well, she did not hold back, did she? she's got form. she will give it to anyone who can have it, actually. but anyway, who's your, who's your one? >> mine is the army horses. because we have the army horses . because we have the army horses. the horses that bolted. and one of them had blood on his face and it all looked awful . and and it all looked awful. and they were touch and go for a while. those horses could have died. they were. they are making a happy recovery. unfortunately, some of them are now back in the army, and i think they shouldn't be. but fundamentally, it's lovely news that the horses are okay. >> i'm glad, especially the one that's covered in his own blood. there is okay because that was touch and go. >> he'll be really cool in the stables now. they'll all want to hear his stories. >> yeah. okay. sorry. got with. all right. so today's a winner of the greatest britain is honorary marjorie taylor greene . honorary marjorie taylor greene. and let's go to a union jackass guardian columnist zoe williams. guess what's right wing now, patrick getting fit. wow. it's great, but it could turn you into a right wing jerk. there's a dark side to getting fit. it makes you more right wing. well it can turn you into a jerk. in fairness to zoe williams, she

does start off her article by saying, okay, this is going to sound hypocritical. i wish more guardian journalists started with that opening sentence, but now getting fit makes you right wing. >> according to zoe williams, she's basically trying to make the point is she, that you become a bit more entitled because you can look after yourself and you have less sympathy for anyone who doesn't. yeah, right. personal responsibility, but self—improvement anyway. go on. >> typical garden guardian. yeah, right. mine is owen jones for his disgusting tweet over nigel farage milkshake assault . nigel farage milkshake assault. >> yeah, yeah, i think he said it was art, didn't he? yes. >> disgusting . >> disgusting. >> disgusting. >> yeah. okay. fair enough. all right, we'll go on. who's your. oh, that's the tweet. sorry. there we go. that's the tweet. so owen jones tweeted art as nigel farage got plastered full of banana milkshake by what turned out to allegedly. anyway, let's leave that there. go on. >> oh yeah. look her up. she seems great, mine is margarine . seems great, mine is margarine. >> oh, i wish we could go into this. we can't. but that was a horrible thing. i think you just said that. carry on. >> don't carry the milkshake here. i just think she seems

fine. carry mine is marjorie taylor greene. oh, that her conduct was unbelievably unprofessional, and i understand that she's angry, but to refuse to call somebody who is medically a doctor, a doctor undermines her point and makes her seem who cost lives, who is still a doctor ? still a doctor? >> no. it's unforgivable. what anthony fauci did , but he is anthony fauci did, but he is still a doctor today. >> okay, today , by the way, that >> okay, today, by the way, that wasn't the only i didn't think you were going to go off on that. anthony fauci deny it. probably would deny that he cost lives. okay. >> of course he would, because he didn't. >> right? right. right. right. okay. zoe williams, guardian journalist there , for saying journalist there, for saying that if you get fit, you become more right wing. how dare we all take a bit of personal responsibility in our lives? but right. thank you to my wonderful panel right. thank you to my wonderful panel. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to you at home or wherever you've been watching or wherever you've been listening. i'll be back again tomorrow at 9 pm. it's headliners next. until then, keep fighting the good fight . keep fighting the good fight. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello! welcome to your latest

gb news weather update from the met office. tomorrow's going to be another fairly cool day across the northwest, with a risk of some further heavy showers, and we could see some further heavy showers. this evening with a north westerly wind pushing showers into similar areas. it's northwestern scotland where we're going to see the highest rainfall totals through the next 24 hours or so. we could see a mix of hail, possibly some hill snow in there as well. we could also see some showers as far south as southwestern england overnight tonight, many western areas seeing a bit more in the way of cloud tonight compared to last night. so it will be a bit of a milder night for some of us. but i think still where skies stay the clearest, there's a risk of a rural grass frost. so potentially another chilly start for some areas, particularly across eastern scotland, where it will be a bright start to the day. plenty of early sunshine, but notice we've got some bright colours on those showers showing the heaviness of them through tomorrow morning. we could see some spray on the roads because of that. across western areas of scotland in towards northwestern england, as well as parts of wales, the midlands as well,

potentially seeing some fairly heavy showers. but most of us getting away with a dry and bright start despite the chillier feel to things at the moment. so another fairly cool day to come tomorrow, especially for the time of year. and if you are further north and west, where it will be another showery day, there's another risk of thunderstorms, potentially some hail as well. in those showers , hail as well. in those showers, especially as we head into thursday evening here. elsewhere across wales, central areas of england and across the south coast in particular, this still feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine. highs of 18, possibly 19 degrees, so that's too not bad for the time of year. now into friday we start to see a band of

gb news. >> good evening. it's 11:00. >> good evening. it's11:00. you're with gb news in london. and tonight, the top story from the newsroom. both the king and queen were both visibly emotional hearing about veterans experiences of d—day during commemorative events earlier on today. the royal couple have beenin today. the royal couple have been in portsmouth to mark 80 years since the world war ii operation began, and princess anne has been attending a service in france. speaking earlier , his majesty paid earlier, his majesty paid tribute to veterans, saying their stories could not fail to inspire the nation . inspire the nation. >> let us once again commit ourselves always to remember, cherish and honour those who serve that day and to