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sunday. hope you're having a wonderful day out there . thank wonderful day out there. thank you for joining wonderful day out there. thank you forjoining us wonderful day out there. thank you for joining us this lunchtime. i'm dawn neesom, and for the next two hours. lucky you. i'll be keeping you company on telly, online and on digital radio. coming up this hour. sadly, a body has been found in the search for tv doctor michael mosley, who went missing on a greek island earlier this week. we'll bring you the very latest on this developing story. but thoughts of his with his family , thoughts of his with his family, then rishi sunak avoided media interviews as he returned to the campaign trail on saturday amid the fallout from his, early return from the d—day commemoration ceremony in normandy. but was this the best move for his party and the university of cambridge has had to step in to tell students to stop flirting with their tutors under a new policy banning relationships with professors .
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relationships with professors. hey, but this show is nothing without you and your views. it's not about me. it's not about my brilliant panel. it's all about what you think about stuff. so let us know what you think. on all the stories we're talking about today by visiting. i've learned this right gbnews.com/yoursay si king and join the conversation or message me on our socials . very simple me on our socials. very simple @gbnews. but first, it's those all important news headlines with theo . with theo. >> good afternoon. it's 1:01. i'm theo chikomba in the gb newsroom. a body has been found in the search for tv doctor michael mosley, who went missing on a greek island earlier this week. an umbrella was discovered next to the body beneath a fence that runs around a bar on aghia marina beach. the area is surrounded by hilly, rocky terrain around 30 minutes walk from the village of perry, where doctor mosley was last seen. the
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search effort has spent days operating in dangerous conditions and high temperatures , and has included police and firefighters equipped with drones. the conservatives are to set out a plan to save around £12 billion a year by tightening the criteria for those who claim benefits. it would see more people told to find work, including some who receive disability payments. the prime minister has also pledged to tackle what he's called sick note culture. it would mean gps are no longer able to sign people off work with specialist workplace health professionals, given the responsibility . given the responsibility. instead, labour called it a vague promise that won't get britain healthy or bring benefits under control. but work and pensions secretary mel stride disagrees . stride disagrees. >> we will be having mental health teams for every single primary secondary school in the country and fe college, and we'll have mental health hubs,
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150 of those across the country for those aged between 11 and 25. and alongside that, camilla, of course, what we're doing is reforming the gateway into benefits , which we know from benefits, which we know from what the obr tells us. for example, with the work capability assessments, changes that we're making , that that that we're making, that that will mean 440,000 fewer people on those long term benefits going forward . going forward. >> meanwhile, labour is pledging to alleviate some of the pressure on overcrowded prisons with a plan to add 14,000 new places. it would seize some prisons classified as sites of national importance, so ministers can take control of planning decisions. it comes after some inmates were released early due to severe overcrowding across the prison system. the government previously promised to deliver 20,000 new prison places by mid 2020. just 6000 have been created so far. labour leader sir keir starmer says the problem in prisons is getting
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worse . woi'se. >> worse. >> well, i am critical of the tories early release scheme because what's happened is that they're releasing early prisoners who should still be in prisoners who should still be in prison , and that's a shocking prison, and that's a shocking state of affairs and like the many problems that they have left for the country , if we do left for the country, if we do come into power, we're going to have to fix it now, that will involve building prisons that will involve taking tough decisions because the money's been allocated for prison building. but there are tough decisions about planning and getting those prisons up. but what we can't have is a continuation of this total mess . continuation of this total mess. >> time spent waiting for an ambulance would be cut under a plan set out by the liberal democrats. it would see an extra 1000 staffed hospital beds, which the party says would help end excessive handover delays and patients having to wait in corridors for treatment . the corridors for treatment. the party says the proposals would be funded through an upfront capital investment of £280
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million to expand urgent treatment centres . liberal treatment centres. liberal democrats leader sir ed davey says the urgent action is needed to fix britain's health care . to fix britain's health care. >> seen in some parts of the country. people's loved ones dying before the ambulance has arrived. we've seen queues at hospitals as ambulances waiting to hand over their patients and something has to be done . we've something has to be done. we've got a comprehensive package to turn around this mess the conservatives made of ambulance services, and that starts with extra beds, extra thousand beds in our hospitals. but it also links up to our care policies. so people can come out of hospitals more quickly when they're ready to . they're ready to. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to gb news. sunday >> thank you very much, theo.
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right let's get straight into today's stories, shall we.7 now, today's stories, shall we? now, starting with obviously breaking news and sad breaking news, as you've just heard in our bulletins with theo, a body has been found in the search for tb doctor michael mosley, who went missing on a greek island earlier this week . the deputy earlier this week. the deputy mayor has confirmed the body was found in a cave off of a rocky area beside aghia marina, joining me now , is former joining me now, is former scotland yard detective peter bleksley to explain more about what has happened this morning . what has happened this morning. peter, thank you very much for joining me. normally we have a fun chat on here, but obviously talking about incredibly sad news today, what do you make of the latest developments ? the latest developments? >> it's clearly a very sombre finding, whilst doctor mosley has not officially, been declared as deceased, my thoughts obviously are with his wife. his children and everybody who loved him, which included a
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lot of people. there's been huge outpourings of affection for him today, with many obituaries and very warm words on numerous media outlets with regards to the procedures that will now take place. i understand that the coroner has examined the bodyin the coroner has examined the body in situ. in other words, where it was found, and that the bodyis where it was found, and that the body is now in the process of being removed, to a suitable , being removed, to a suitable, location whereby there will of course be a post mortem location whereby there will of course be a postmortem and it will be the post mortem that should establish the cause of death . death. >> i mean, just just quickly. i don't want to dwell too much because it is incredibly sad news and obviously thoughts with our, michael's wife, claire, and his four children. obviously a search team never wants to find this, to find this situation, do they?i this, to find this situation, do they? i mean, you must been involved in situations like this as well. what's it actually like
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when the thing you really hope not to come across as happened and hope springs eternal ? and hope springs eternal? >> it's what motivates people. whether it's police officers searching for a missing person or whether it's rescuers who go to a natural disaster. and in fact, of course, a lot of police and former colleagues were were sent to thailand when the tsunami struck because they were experts in identifying victims . experts in identifying victims. so it's always about hope. but when the hope fades and the unfortunate reality kicks in, then it's really a matter of providing a service for loved ones. so of course, treating any, any bodies that are found with the utmost respect and dignity, and doing all that you can to soften what will be inevitably for someone utterly heartbreaking news, peter, thank you so much. >> appreciate your time. that's a peter bleksley former met detective there on the very sad
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news that a body has indeed been found on the island of simi , found on the island of simi, thank you very much, peter, now , thank you very much, peter, now, now, should we go back to politics? rishi sunak. avoided media interviews. funny. that isn't it? has he returned to the campaign trail on saturday amid the fallout from his early return from the d—day commemorations ceremony in normandy. the prime minister was due to meet reporters during a visit to county durham and yorkshire on saturday, but the interviews were strangely cancelled , with the tories cancelled, with the tories citing time constraints , joining citing time constraints, joining me now, we've got two perfect panellists for this today . panellists for this today. joining me now is gb news political correspondent . olivia political correspondent. olivia utley is joining me first before we get to our panellists. but olivia first to explain what's going on. olivia i thought the whole point of being on the campaign trail on your battle bus was to engage with the media and sell yourself, so why is rishi suddenly taking cover? >> well, absolutely , you would >> well, absolutely, you would have thought so. >> rishi sunak was, visiting out
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and about in bishop auckland in county durham yesterday. that's one of those red wall seats that the conservatives want. to almost everyone's surprise, back in 2019, the whole visit seemed to be set up for the media and indeed a huddle , as they call it indeed a huddle, as they call it with journalists, was planned in a walled garden during the afternoon. but that huddle was called off right at the last minute, with conservative press officers saying there simply wasn't time. well you think they probably could have managed to make a little bit of time if rishi sunak had wanted to appear in front of cameras . he clearly in front of cameras. he clearly didn't. after the fallout from that d—day misstep on friday, two cabinet ministers have now come out and said that he made a mistake , penny mordaunt, who is mistake, penny mordaunt, who is obviously vying for the position of leader of the opposition. should the conservatives lose this election, said that what rishi sunak had done was completely wrong. and mark harper, the transport secretary
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who's a close friend of rishi sunaks and endorsed his campaign for leader when he was running against liz truss, also said that the prime minister had made a mistake. there was even talk yesterday, whispers in westminster that rishi sunak might be on the verge of resigning. the rumour was that he had simply had enough. he was miserable after his d—day gaffe and wanted to step away before the next election. well, this morning mel stride, the work and pensions secretary, has dismissed that rumour as rubbish. he says that rishi sunak will be leading the party into the next election. but things really are not looking good for the conservatives this morning. labour is leading by an astonishing 25 points in the polls. that's the biggest lead since march, and it's difficult at the moment to see that closing any time soon. >> olivier, just very quickly, we are running out of time here. but i mean, nadine dorries is our, been i know it's been denied. i know rishi is staying there, etc. etc. but nadine dorries obviously not often the
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most reliable person , was most reliable person, was implying overnight that maybe it was time for our , david cameron was time for our, david cameron to step into the breach, who is very statesmanlike. he was there for the whole d—day commemorations, wasn't he , and commemorations, wasn't he, and for rishi to take that step back. what do you think the chances are of that one? >> i think it's incredibly unlikely . i mean, it would be unlikely. i mean, it would be very, very unusual for a man who is not even a sitting member of the house of commons to, step in and become prime minister at the very last minute. that said, i mean, if rishi sunak were to stand aside and again, i do think that is incredibly unlikely. someone like david cameron might be the conservatives only choice. most of the cabinet ministers look quite likely if polling bears out, to the to the general election to actually lose their seats. someone like penny mordaunt only has a majority of about 15,000, which these days isn't enough to be considered a safe seat. so if rishi sunak were to stand aside for any reason, then perhaps a non—mp would be the conservatives only
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option. >> indeed , the plot thickens. >> indeed, the plot thickens. olivia utley, thank you very much for bringing us up to date on our, rishi sunak on the campaign trail, but not actually campaigning and just avoiding journalists, right. okay now, as i said, we have a brilliant panel on this one today. i'm joined by political commentator joe phillips and former conservative special adviser charlie rowley. now, you've both welcome both of you . lovely to welcome both of you. lovely to see you. thank you for joining me on a sunday afternoon. now, you've both worked advising politicians, so you are perfect for this debate. i mean, i, i think we'd all agree, no matter what side of the political spectrum you're on, that this was a big mess up on rishi sunak's part. >> you have to ask whether there isn't some deal between dominic cummings and alastair campbell who are running the campaign, because what is so astonishing dawn, is that rishi sunak doesn't seem to have any political instinct, any human instinct. >> i mean , he's not the first >> i mean, he's not the first person, the first politician. do you remember boris johnson hiding in a fridge? >> yes, you know, but it's just
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he just makes it worse and worse and worse by. >> and where's the common sense that says to you , i think i need that says to you, i think i need to be here, or i just need. it's very short. >> i've got ten minutes with the press. >> but don't avoid them completely. >> so you would have advised him to look. actually, you have apologise , ed, but, you know, apologise, ed, but, you know, you were on the campaign trail. i would your first boss. >> first of all, i would have said you stay in norman. >> well, you know, you it was a pre—recorded interview for heaven's sake. and even if at the beginning of the plans, they said, oh, you don't need to stay, it doesn't matter. it's a bit like, come for the drinks or come to the after party when you realise that biden and schultz and macron are going to be there, you just say, i'm staying i >> -- >> it's i 5mm >> it's i mean charlie, just unbelievable. i'm going to come to you. charlie is just pure common sense, and i'm old enough and ugly enough. but the 70th anniversary of d—day, when david cameron was there as prime minister and he said it was one of the most emotional things he's ever done. he spent almost the whole day fighting off the tears, and he . and he was there,
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tears, and he. and he was there, surely he must have said to rishi sunak at one point, really not a good idea for you to go, mate. i think you should stay here. or is there a double bluff thing coming on here? and david cameron is maybe paying a trixie a game than we think, no, i don't think that's true . i don't don't think that's true. i don't think david cameron has any ambition himself, really, to come back and lead the tory party. he's been there. he's done it. he's been prime minister. he's left. he's come back as foreign secretary, if that power isn't it? >> well, i mean, you'll have to ask him, but, look, i think cameron reports in the sunday times said that he did say to rishi, you. >> i think you should stay, but there's only so much he could do. but i think, look, it was a mistake , you know, you can't. no mistake, you know, you can't. no one's going to sort of weasel their way out of it or try and coverit their way out of it or try and cover it up or justify it, or offer some sort of spin because the prime minister is accepted. it was the wrong thing to do. it was the wrong thing to leave. i think we're slightly at risk at suggesting that he didn't turn up at all, and it was a total snub. he went to the portsmouth events, he went to norman. he just left early, which is wrong,
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but just for the full context and i think to offer just again, and i think to offerjust again, no justification because a mistake has been made and he's held his hands up. but as an explanation, when you are, i think the prime minister and you're leading a campaign for your party, for your country that you've called , where that you've called, where probably most people accept, called it too early, where you are 20 points behind in the polls. it's very easy. i think , polls. it's very easy. i think, to allow that to eat into your mind every day of every second. whether you're at a wedding, a party, a ceremony, a very, very historic, you know, commemoration event, it's still going to be on your mind. and if you're leading that campaign and you're leading that campaign and you want to win the next election when you are so far behind in the polls where things aren't going well, where you are wholly responsible for that, of course you're going to want to get back to the uk early. now so no justification but an explanation as to probably what was going through his mind, why he was so determined to come back when he did. obviously accepting that was wrong and making that apology, i think was obviously right. and in terms of the media yesterday, i think having a ticking off by penny
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mordaunt, which again, the right thing to do, she's gone out and gone further than most of the cabinet colleagues , but i think cabinet colleagues, but i think she's articulated it well. the whole country was annoyed , whole country was annoyed, veterans certainly. so i think having that little bit of, you know , it was totally wrong. it know, it was totally wrong. it was completely wrong. i think she actually said, i think he's had a ticking off. now let's just take the heat out of it. there was no need for him to do a media huddle yesterday, which is just a lot of journalists sitting around all firing questions at him. take the heat out of it. he's apologised. he's had a ticking off. have a day to just go to the local fete, which he did in richmond and do some other campaign events, and let's just breathe on a sunday and we'll kick off again on monday. >> but it didn't take the heat out of it, charlie, because we're still talking about. >> but we'd be. but, but, but we'd be talking about it even more if he'd done a huddle with journalists. and that was a complete car crash. we would be then. >> then he's not fit to be prime minister. i mean, there is a point, as you and i both know, are having advised people there has to be one person and i get the impression that there are too many cooks, too many chefs stirring the broth or whatever the phrase is, that he's hearing
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one thing from somebody, something. now, it could be his wife, it could be an old friend. it could be somebody, you know, we know boris johnson had eddie lister, we know david cameron was very, you know, took his wife's advice very seriously. it could be anybody. it could be larry the downing street cat. but there has to be one person who says to him, you're making a mistake or you need to do this , mistake or you need to do this, who he listens to. and it seems to me that there is an element of course he's fed up. it's ghastly . of course he's fed up. it's ghastly. he's not probably not going to be prime minister. on july the fifth, and he probably desperately wants to go and do something else. he's only got a few weeks to go. just do it with good grace and do what people expect you to do, which is to if you know, just after you've said, oh, let's bring back national service to not then be there for d—day is just ridiculous to talk about. you know, britain on the world stage, but to not be there with senior people, including president zelenskyy, who, frankly, has got a bit more
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going on than rishi sunak. >> tasty. and again , it's not >> tasty. and again, it's not a justification, it's an explanation and he's apologised. but you're right, i think, well the buck stops with rishi. i mean the buck stops with the boss. but there should be some advisers around and there are plenty of political advisers for rishi, more than what they were for theresa or for david cameron. and so one of them, you would have hoped would have been able to sort of say, boss, you need to stay. >> wow. unfortunately, we've run out of time on that particular bit of this debate. it will go on and on, no doubt. but for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more, go to our website @gbnews for.com. now do you want cheering up? yeah. go on. you do. of course you do, it's go on. you do. of course you do, wsfime go on. you do. of course you do, it's time for the great british giveaway and your chance to make this summer really special. with over a £16,000 worth of prizes to won , be that's actually to won, be that's actually £15,000 cash and a whole host of treats, but you have to be in it to win it. i'm going to stop saying that phrase. it's irritating me as much as you. and here's all the details you need. >> it's a summer spectacular .
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entering at 16 grand. come on. what can you do with that? i'm dawn neesom gb news sunday and there's loads more coming up on today's really packed show. now labour's manifesto will pledge laws to crack down on violence against shop staff . but how will against shop staff. but how will it actually be imposed? all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel. don't go too far
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channel. >> welcome back to gb news. sandie vara dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. now labour's manifesto, which is due on thursday, i believe will announce, will pledge rather laws to crack down on violence against shop staff. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, says the party would take action to end the tide of aggression and vowed to stop police ignoring thefts valued at under £200. speaking to staff at a co—op store, miss cooper heard harrowing tales of staff threatened with hammers and knives and being sprayed with petrol , now, my wonderful with petrol, now, my wonderful panel are still here with me and they're both political advisors, which is fantastic because that's what we need today. so charlie rowley and joe philip now, i mean , the sunday papers now, i mean, the sunday papers are full of it today, right? aren't they ? we've had pledges, aren't they? we've had pledges, we've had promises, we've ambitions. and the manifestos are both out this week. tories, i believe on tuesday , the labour
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i believe on tuesday, the labour one on thursday. so they're all, you know unveiled. so yvette cooper announcing that shop staff need to be protected from violence by a special law . well, violence by a special law. well, charlie, who knew it was wrong to go and beat up someone who works in the shop? i mean, surely we have those rules. in any case. you can't just go and beat people up anywhere. >> are your are your t.ti. right. and there's a bit of a problem here, a problem anyway that that's going on so, so much in in society. but i think labour have pledged to sort of crack down on anti—social behaviour. that's fine. that's one thing should be welcomed. we can all get on board with that. but creating a new law to protect shopkeepers? well, that would be a policing thing, not an anti—social thing. it's a criminal thing. so you need more police and you need more. yes. maybe pcsos , but that's maybe pcsos, but that's a different thing entirely to just cracking down on anti—social behaviour . cracking down on anti—social behaviour. anti—social behaviour is about the littering, about the broken communities, about people that are , neighbours from people that are, neighbours from hell, and all the rest of it. so and people that disobedient in the classrooms and broken families. that's a, you know, serious thing. but it's separate to criminality, which is taking
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place up and down our high streets, where people are literally walking into any old shop, you know, casing the aisles, you know, throwing into their baskets, you know, booze and god knows what everyone. and walking out without anybody batting an eyelid because they know that they can and there's no protection for the shopkeeper or the or the shop staff. we're seeing this story time and time again, and it does need cracking down on, but it's very different to what labour has sort of pledging and versus this law. >> it's like, look, fair play to be fair. i mean, you know, i mean, i've got mates who work in shops and it's horrible at the moment and they're terrified to tackle anything that happens. and you know, they are advised not to. and that's why people can walk in and walk out with 200 pounds worth of goods, and they feel free to be able to do so. but i mean, what she said today, it's like it's been said a lot over the past, and it doesn't actually mean anything, is it? >> i think just to put it into context, dawn, usdaw, which is the shop workers union, who have long been campaigning for a tax and threats on shop workers to be regarded in the same vein as
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attacks and assaults on emergency service workers. >> the government finally did introduce it into the criminal bill. a few months ago. >> justice bill. >> justice bill. >> so it hasn't i'm not sure whether it's actually gone through or where it is, whether it's sitting in the aether waiting for the next government, but this whole problem has been going on pre covid with the police not bothering to turn up to anything under £200. so the more we talk about it, the more people know about it, the more they get away with it and the more brazen they are, so i think you know what yvette cooper is. my you know what yvette cooper is. my understanding is what she's saying is, yes, we need more community and visible policing, but we also need the police to do their job. and actually, if do theirjob. and actually, if you are being robbed, it is the job of the police to come and deal with it. and that is the same in rural communities where you know the police. yes, of course they're overstretched and there's not enough of them and all the rest of it. and we know why. but, you know, if crimes
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don't get reported because people don't think they're going to be investigated, then they don't appear on any statistics. so then you get into this vicious circle of saying, oh, crime is going down. well, actually, they're not. people have just given up. and that's really dangerous. yeah really dangerous. >> this charlie, the only thing i was going to add, which i absolutely agree with yvette on this, which is quite surprising, i know, i know steady , i've had i know, i know steady, i've had a couple of sugars in my tea, but the one thing that she said, which is absolutely right and which is absolutely right and which i think we just have to sort of make clear, she is saying also in the interview that she gave, this isn't about people who feel necessarily hard pressed this there is a cost of living crisis. yes, of course, but these aren't people that are just slipping in, you know, nappies or into the these are hard line people , you gangs, hard line people, you gangs, criminal gangs that go into the shops that fill their baskets full of alcohol and god knows what, they are totally taking the mick out of all of us and those shopkeepers, they are breaking the law. they need to be, they need to feel the full
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force of the law. so i'm glad that she's drawn that distinction, because, you know, it is clear that people aren't just, you know , you can't just just, you know, you can't just use the excuse, oh, we've got a cost of living crisis. and it's a terrible government. these are people that are targeting shops and doing it deliberately. >> and i think the other thing is that, you know, this low level crime, which is often seen as is only part of the much bigger thing. it's a little bit like, you know , stolen vehicles, like, you know, stolen vehicles, driving without insurance , driving without insurance, driving without insurance, driving off without paying for petrol. you can bet that there will be a link somewhere to something more serious , because something more serious, because the people who behave like that don't give a damn about anybody or anything, or the laws of the land. so actually, if you think you can walk in and i'm going to as you so eloquently keep saying, charlie casing it, i think he might have done this before. >> yeah. i was going to say, actually, you to tell us about. >> yes. i've got a bottle around the back . i brought it in. the back. i brought it in. >> you could have done. yeah. >> you could have done. yeah. >> it's that jim. i think that's what they were using. well, yeah. >> absolutely. yeah. none of which we've just got tea here, by the way, if you miss the
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previous show with the lovely ben leo, they had gin and wine. we have tea. just saying. okay. we have tea. just saying. okay. we have tea. just saying. okay. we have run out of time with that debate as well, i'm dawn neesom still, it's gb news sunday and there's plenty more coming up on today's show. but first, here is those news headunes first, here is those news headlines with the lovely theo. >> it's 1:31. headlines with the lovely theo. >> it's1:31. i'm theo chikomba here in the gb newsroom. a body has been found in the search for tv doctor michael mosley, who went missing on a greek island earlier this week. an umbrella was discovered next to the body beneath a fence that runs around a bar on aghia marina beach . the a bar on aghia marina beach. the area is surrounded by hilly, rocky terrain around 30 minutes walk from the village of perry, where doctor mosley was last seen. the search effort has spent days operating in dangerous conditions and high temperatures, and has included police and firefighters equipped with drones . the conservatives with drones. the conservatives are setting out a plan to save
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around £12 billion a year by tightening the criteria for those who claim benefit, it would see more people told to find work, including some who receive disability payments. the prime minister has also pledged to tackle what he's called sick note culture. it would mean gps are no longer able to sign people off work with specialist workplace health professionals, given their responsibility . given their responsibility. instead, labour called it a vague promise that won't get britain healthy or bring benefits under control . benefits under control. meanwhile, labour is pledging to alleviate some of the pressure on overcrowded prisons with the plan to add 14,000 new places. it would see some prisons classified as sites of national importance, so ministers can take control of planning decisions. it comes after some inmates were released early due to severe overcrowding across the prisons system. labour leader sir keir starmer says the problem is getting worse.
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>> well, i am critical of the tories early release scheme because what's happened is that they're releasing early prisoners who should still be in prisoners who should still be in prison and that's a shocking state of affairs. and like the many problems that they have left for the country, if we do come into power , we're going to come into power, we're going to have to fix it. now, that will involve building prisons. that will involve taking tough decisions because the money's been allocated for prison building. but there are tough decisions about planning and getting those prisons up. but what we can't have is a continuation of this total mess . continuation of this total mess. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. thank you theo. and just some breaking news now , it has been breaking news now, it has been confirmed michael mosley's family have identified the body and confirmed that it is
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michael. so thoughts with the whole family , wife and four whole family, wife and four children are out there at the moment. so an incredibly sad story now, there'll be more on that breaking story as we go through the afternoon. now, remember, let me know all your thoughts on the stories, by visiting gbnews.com forward slash. but now we're going to take a quick break
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soon. >> if you want your news to be straight talking. this is a nightmare for the conservatives. again, down to earth. >> it's not just nottingham where this is happening, is it? >> and most importantly, honest , >> and most importantly, honest, hard working middle class taxpayers. they'll get the buck thrown at them. they catch me martin daubney monday to friday, 3 to 6 pm. on gb news. britain's news channel . welcome britain's news channel. welcome back to gb news sunday with me . back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your telly, onune dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio, now, new zealand, probably one of the wokeist countries on earth , you remember back to the
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earth, you remember back to the pandemic is expected to revoke a ban on drilling for oil and gas amid fears of blackouts. the country's coalition government is preparing to invite energy companies to resume exploration in the three major offshore fields that supply most of its gas, seeing as labour for over here plans to impose a similar crackdown on the north sea oil and gas. is this a warning sign that the country cannot afford to stop oil and gas exploration ? to stop oil and gas exploration? joe. come on. i mean, new zealand are pretty woke and they're going back on their green pledge. i mean, they've got a new government since jacinda ahern, resigned, and they've got a sort of a fairly right leaning coalition. >> i don't think wokeness, whatever that means, depending. i know you'd say that. well, because people use it. >> it means and they say woke. >> it means and they say woke. >> it's something i don't agree with. i think you're being silly , actually, you know, if this is what new zealand really wants to do in a beautiful part of the world, i think it's a real shame. i mean, we've had long,
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long debates, and obviously there are people who don't think climate change exists who presumably think the world is flat. and actually, you could probably just walk to new zealand without having to go round anything, but i think, you know, the serious issue is something that all political parties and all countries need to grapple with. and it's not something that is easy for the labour party either. if we bring it back to this country. but i think what they've made clear is that they recognise as a transition period and whilst this or the outgoing conservative government have issued new licenses, labour have said they won't issue any more new ones. they'll honour those agreements. but looking to , agreements. but looking to, renewable energy, wind power, solar, whatever . and it seems to solar, whatever. and it seems to me that, you know, we can't ignore that, even if some people think it's woke. but there's an awful lot of scientific evidence saying, you know, we really are at a tipping point and the time is running out.
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at a tipping point and the time is running out . and i think, you is running out. and i think, you know, anybody under 30 is not going to thank us for sitting here going, oh, it's so woke to do something. just turn the central heating up. let's drive a bit further. we've really got to take this seriously. you know, we've got floods. we've got, climate change is affecting every part of the world. we've got floods , we've got fires. got floods, we've got fires. we've got, you know, terrific heatwaves . that means crop heatwaves. that means crop failure. it means famine. it means parts of the world will become less and less habitable , become less and less habitable, which then, you know, subject close to the gb news viewers heart creates migration because people are moving to go somewhere cooler, safer where there's more food , where they there's more food, where they can grow crops. so we need to take it seriously and it's no good just doing what we've done for the last 30, 40 years, going let the next lot deal with it. there won't be okay this time. >> on the very day over here in today's sunday telegraph, i believe that claire coutinho, the energy secretary, is warning that labour's net zero plans,
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which are due to come in five years before the conservative plans risk leading to blackouts and public unrest . what do you and public unrest. what do you make of these two stories happening on the same day? basically >> well, it's very interesting . >> well, it's very interesting. >> well, it's very interesting. >> and look, you know, you saw the backlash. rightly so. in my view, when it came to policies like ulez under the labour mayor of london, where you're basically impacting on hard working people that need a vehicle to get to work, it's basically a road tax, a car. >> that was a health policy that wasn't about roads. it was well, well, if it was air, if the mayor is so focused on health, he should take a trip on the london underground, where the air quality is worse than it is on the roads. >> that's the first point. but the second point is broadly that you can't bring people with you, and if you're going to ultimately hit them in the pockets and tax them if it's unaffordable for hard working people. so i'm for all a net zero up until 2050. i think we have a responsibility for our own citizens and for our country to get cleaner air, as you were saying, joe, just a second ago. but also, you've got to make
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sure that it's affordable for people. you can't just impose things. so, you know, a steady step towards greater insulated homes. that is a priorities to prevent people putting on the heating where they don't necessarily need to. that does come at a cost, but you can stretch that cost over a number of years for hard working people. but ultimately , we're people. but ultimately, we're never going to solve the great climate crisis that, again, joe was talking about, such as the floods that you're seeing in brazil for the first time in many years, such as the melting of the ice caps in in antarctica. unless you get the big hitters like china, like india, like america. also to play india, like america. also to play their part in reducing their emissions. otherwise the world you're never going to solve the global climate crisis just by the uk doing its bit. of course, we need to do our bit for our own citizens, but i'm afraid unless you get those big emitters on side , you know, emitters on side, you know, which is why i think those crackpots like just stop oil that wanted to disrupt that royal wedding the other day and whatever else they think is, is fair game. they need to properly, well, dare i say it, hop on a plane and go to china
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and protest out there and see how they like it out there. >> well, and i you know, i think you're absolutely right. you know, china is building thousands of coal fired power stations, but we're importing stuff from china all the time, aren't we? you know, we the argument against that would say we have to because we don't. >> you know, if we go completely green, we don't have enough energy supplies. but, you know what, don? >> 14 years of the tories and they have failed on so many levels and they failed actually we were talking about david cameron earlier, but in the coalition with the liberal democrats in 2010, you know, they shelved nuclear power, building more . well, it was nick building more. well, it was nick clegg that blocked. it was nick clegg that blocked. it was nick clegg that blocked it who said it's going to take 20 years to come to fruition. well, you know, that was in my opinion, far worse. and going back on his promise about student tuition fees, because the long term effect was for people who weren't even born, never mind going off to university . so going off to university. so we've had this head in the sand attitude. we haven't done anything about the big oil companies who are making massive
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profits and massive profits out of all of us, you know, and that's lots and lots of things there. if you had better public transport then you know you wouldn't need. so many cars. every time you build another 2000 houses somewhere, that's at least 2000 cars. what are we doing about planning regulations ? what are we doing about infrastructure that says every new build has got to be solar powered heat pump , double water powered heat pump, double water systems to take off the strain on our sewage and overflows and things. and what are we doing to improve things? we're just going, no, don't worry, we'll worry about it another day. and thatis worry about it another day. and that is not grown up. we need grown ups, grown ups . grown ups, grown ups. >> well, as i say, there's a commitment to net zero by 2050. you know, the increase in electronic vehicles i think is something. but you've got to you've got to have the infrastructure to have these vehicles. and actually those vehicles. and actually those vehicles need to become more cheaper to buy. so it should be cheaper to buy. so it should be cheaper to buy an electric
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vehicle than the petrol vehicle. i don't think that's the case at the moment because you don't have that infrastructure. so it is getting your ducks in a row to make sure that you can then have that sustainable community pressure on business. >> it could certainly be putting pressure on the oil and gas companies and on the car manufacturers to put pressure on you. >> still, at the moment. thank you for that bit of hot air. well, i wasn't going to put it quite that hot air. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> i'm too woke to tell you to shut up. of course you are . oh, shut up. of course you are. oh, right, thank you very much on that one. right. i'm dawn neesom this is gb news. sandone. there's loads more coming up on today's really packed show. this story is fun. the university of cambridge has had to step in to tell students to stop flirting with staff under a new policy banning relationships with professors . all of that, and more to come. this is gb
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>> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. >> and as you know, we always love to hear your views. >> now, there's a new way of getting in touch with us @gbnews. com forward slash your
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i mean, basically a lot of people are saying and a lot of people are saying and a lot of people sympathy over michael mosley story and the family. and i think that probably the most important message is at the moment, so we're just leave that there and we'll come back to that. but please send in your messages, whatever you want to talk about. ww, dot, gbnews.com/yoursay and let me know your thoughts on everything we're talking about today , or on we're talking about today, or on our socials either @gbnews, which is easy to do. now we're going to have some fun. we'll talk about flirting , well, we're talk about flirting, well, we're not actually, you're not allowed to do it. the university of cambridge has told students to stop flirting with staff under a new policy banning sexual relationships with professors , relationships with professors, as the new rules, which come into force, are next month , into force, are next month, beginning of july, include a warning against behaviour that could be interpreted as flirtatious, university staff have been told they must report any behaviour that could constitute a student making advances towards a personal, particularly intimate relationship with them. now. i mean, joe and charlie are both still here. obviously but look,
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these are all consenting adults. i get , you know, the, you know, i get, you know, the, you know, the student teacher thing is a no no, it's not it's not a good thing. but the flirting line on this one, i'm a bit confused with this one, charlie . i mean, with this one, charlie. i mean, how do you know? i mean, how if you're a, if you're a tutor, how do you interpret what is flirting and what is just sort of like having a bit of banter. >> yeah. and the fact that you've got very nice trousers, by the way. oh, thank you . by the way. oh, thank you. >> oh you see, you didn't even , >> oh you see, you didn't even, you didn't even recognise. >> oh i didn't oh, oh he's got i think i'm blushing now. i'm blushing. good >> so what's flirting. what's me complimenting your. very well fitting trousers. yes. >> well, well very well fitting code for two tights and i've put on a bit of weight on my holiday .thank on a bit of weight on my holiday . thank you a snug, but if you've lost, you're looking at that by the sound. dear me. but i think. but you're right, you know, i think there is a line because obviously when you're 18 and you go to university, it
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might be the first time you're away from home. it might be the first time that you're, open to maybe a bit of a nightlife , maybe a bit of a nightlife, social activity, drinking and all the rest of it and partying. so there is still obviously a bit of responsibility , a lot of bit of responsibility, a lot of responsibility to be had between people that have been there and these are the newly turning up and the responsibility between pupils and, and professors, but you're right. i don't know how it can be policed if you're sort of, you know, and by the way, on the flip side, i know a couple, who , you know, the pupil ended who, you know, the pupil ended up dating their professor, and they've been together for about sort of 15 years now, so. so, you know, it it's not as clear as obviously , you know, what as obviously, you know, what you'd have in school. obviously not. but i think the idea is how do you report what is flirting? because obviously i used to go after lectures with my professor and the whole seminar. we used to go to the pub afterwards, and i became very good friends with, she was a mature student. she was on the very, very far left
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of political . and you wondered of political. and you wondered where that was going for her. so continue. we both , with a huge continue. we both, with a huge sigh of relief, me she was she was on the far left of the bed, and i was on i was it's lunch time for some people of the political, the political spectrum. but i was on the centre right . but we got on so centre right. but we got on so well because we had these different ideas. but you do it over a drink with your professor and the rest of the team, and it bnngs and the rest of the team, and it brings people together. >> i'm just going to very, very quick for you, joe. we're running out of very nice trousers as well. we're running out of time. >> not as snug as charlie. >> not as snug as charlie. >> i think you've got to have some rules in place that there's no abuse of power policing. >> it's difficult. we ought to be in a position where you can say, get off, back off, or you know, banter's fine. actually, i hate that word. i hate it almost as much as woke. go on, email in. >> thank you very much. i'm flirting with both my panel because i can no one try any. how hot is the weather out there? let's have a look with there? let's have a look with the lovely ellie, shall we? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb
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news. >> good afternoon. welcome to our latest gb news weather from the met office. so it's been a cloudy day for some of us, but there has been some sunshine around all thanks to high pressure. situated close by towards the southwest of the uk . towards the southwest of the uk. but it's these weather fronts out towards the north and northwest that will bring some outbreaks of rain. as we head through the rest of today and into the start of the new working week. so a damp end to the day for northern ireland, and then into parts of wales and northern and central parts of england , as well as we head england, as well as we head overnight tonight, turning a little drier across northern ireland and parts of scotland into the early hours of monday morning. still 1 or 2 showers across the very far north—east, but it's that cloudy. those cloudy conditions across england and wales that will give some milder temperatures overnight, maybe 11 or 12 degrees here under the clearer spells across parts of scotland and northern ireland. perhaps quite a chilly start in places, maybe some grass frost as well, but further south that cloudy and damp start to the new working week. this could give some tricky driving conditions and perhaps some disruption through the morning
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rush hour on monday. but further west across parts of wales northern ireland and northwestern parts of england, it will be a bit of a drier and brighter start to the day. a chilly start in places across parts of scotland, but quite quickly replaced by those heavy and blustery showers pushing in through the north from the through the north from the through the north from the through the early hours of the morning through the rest of monday. those showers will continue across parts of scotland slowly pushing their way southwards as that area of rain across eastern parts of england pushes away towards the southeast. the best of the sunshine again likely to be across western parts of england, west wales , but plenty of heavy west wales, but plenty of heavy and blustery showers around temperatures on monday. still disappointing for the time of yeah disappointing for the time of year. around 18 or 19 degrees in the south, and again only 10 or 12 degrees further north as we go through the rest of monday evening, those showers do continue for a time, but they will gradually start to ease overnight, leaving a bit of a dner overnight, leaving a bit of a drier start for many of us. on tuesday, plenty of showers still around on tuesday though, but perhaps something a little drier on the way through wednesday.
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however, further rain is likely through the latter half of the week . week. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. >> thank you very much, ellie. and there's loads more coming up on stage show. but just first i want to just read this really quick message out from lynn dixon. hello, lynn, thank you very much for getting in touch. we do believe you're real. lynn says, what's the point in putting our views or our points of view across? if the panel don't think we will? we do think you're real. jo was just a bit discombobulated by the comments about our, the about her on the last one. but we all do think you're real, and we really, really love you. and please do keep those messages coming in on there, especially to jo. right. in any case, right. okay. now we're going to have
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break. hello and welcome to gb news sunday. thank you for joining hello and welcome to gb news sunday. thank you forjoining us sunday. thank you for joining us this lunchtime. i hope you're having a wonderful weekend. i'm dawn neesom, and for the next houn dawn neesom, and for the next hour, i'll be keeping you company on telly, online and on digital radio with a really packed show. now, michael mosley's wife pays tribute to a wonderful, funny, kind and brilliant husband as she confirms the body found in the search is him. we'll bring you the very latest on this sad developing story , then sir keir developing story, then sir keir starmer will launch the labour manifesto this week with a cast iron pledge not to put up income tax, national insurance or vat . tax, national insurance or vat. but what about all the other taxes ? and a 23 year old plus taxes? and a 23 year old plus size model has been crowned miss alabama? there's a picture of her, but we will be debating. is idolising obese models empowering or simply dangerous ?
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empowering or simply dangerous? but this show is nothing without you and your views. and anastasia, good afternoon. thank you for getting in touch. see, you for getting in touch. see, you are real. we do love you. get in touch , the thoughts on get in touch, the thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today by visiting gb news. com forward slash yourself as anastasia has just done and join the conversation or message me on our socials . we're @gbnews. on our socials. we're @gbnews. but first let's get those news headunes but first let's get those news headlines with theo . headlines with theo. >> good afternoon. it's 3:01. past two on theo chikomba in the gb newsroom. the family of michael mosley has confirmed that a body found on the greek island of symi is that of the missing tv doctor. doctor claire bailey. mosley says she's devastated after her husband's body was discovered beneath a fence that runs around a bar on agia marina beach. she described her husband as i find them very revealing. >> i mean, i have, she described
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her husband as a wonderful, funny, kind and brilliant and said the family takes comfort in the fact that he nearly made it to safety after an incredible climb. >> doctor mosley, who was 67, was found in hilly, rocky terrain around 30 minutes walk from the village where he was last seen . meanwhile, labour is last seen. meanwhile, labour is pledging to alleviate some of the pressure on overcrowded prisons with a plan to add 14,000 new places. it would see some prisons classified as sites of national importance, so ministers can take control of planning decisions. it comes after some inmates were released early due to severe overcrowding across the prison system. the government previously promised to deliver 20,000 new prison places by the mid 2020s. just 6000 have been created so far. labour leader sir keir starmer says the problem in prisons is getting worse. >> well, i am critical of the
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tories early release scheme because what's happened is that they're releasing early prisoners who should still be in prison, and that's a shocking state of affairs. and like the many problems that they have left for the country, if we do come into power, we're going to have to fix it. now, that will involve building prisons. that will involve taking tough decisions because the money's been allocated for prison building. but there are tough decisions about planning and getting those prisons up. but what we can't have is a continuation of this total mess , continuation of this total mess, a crackdown on people claiming benefits could save around £12 billion a year, according to a plan set out by the conservative party. >> it would see more people told to find work, including some who received disability payments. the prime minister has also pledged to tackle what he's called sick note culture. it would mean gps are no longer able to sign people off work with specialist workplace health professionals, given the
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responsibility. instead, labour called it a vague promise that won't get britain healthy or bnng won't get britain healthy or bring benefits under control. but work and pensions secretary mel stride says the reform is needed. >> we will be having mental health teams for every single primary secondary school in the country and fe college, and we'll have mental health hubs, 150 of those across the country for those aged between 11 and 25. and alongside that, of course, what we're doing is reforming the gateway into benefits, which we know from what the obr tells us, for example, with the work capability assessments changes that we're making, that that will mean 440,000 fewer people on those long term benefits going forward . going forward. >> time spent waiting for an ambulance would be cut under a plan set out by the liberal democrats. it would see an extra thousand staffed hospital beds, which the party says would help
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end excessive handover delays and patients having to wait in corridors for treatment . the corridors for treatment. the party says the proposals would be funded through an upfront capital investment of £280 million to expand urgent treatment centres. liberal democrats leader sir ed davey says the urgent action is needed to fix britain's health care . to fix britain's health care. >> seen in some parts of the country. people's loved ones dying before the ambulance has arrived. we've seen queues at hospitals as ambulances waiting to hand over their patients and something has to be done. we've got to comprehensive package to turn around this mess. the conservatives made of ambulance services. and that starts with extra beds, extra thousand beds in our hospitals. but it also links up to our care policies so people can come out of hospitals more quickly when they're ready to . to. >> and the world's grumpiest dark is celebrating his 90th birthday today and happy birthday, happy through . the
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birthday, happy through. the cartoon dark, known for his raspy and sometimes short temper, made his debut on this day way back in 1934. in a short cartoon titled the wise little hen, tony anselmo, who's voiced the classic disney character since 1985, thinks donald has become even more relevant over the years. possibly thanks to the years. possibly thanks to the frustrations of modern life . the frustrations of modern life. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to gb news. sunday >> thank you very much, theo. i love that donald duck story. we need cheering up, don't we? right. let's get straight into today's story, shall we? as you've just heard in the news bulletins, doctor claire bailey mosley has confirmed her
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husband, tv doctor and columnist michael mosley, has been found dead on the greek island of symi , adding that the news was was devastating . his body was found devastating. his body was found in a cave of a rocky area beside aghia marina. doctor mosley went missing on a greek island earlier this week, it's just incredibly sad news. you can see the pictures there. they were the pictures there. they were the last known sightings of doctor michael, a very well known author and columnist for the daily mail newspaper , left the daily mail newspaper, left his wife on the beach walking home, and then just disappeared . home, and then just disappeared. it's an incredibly sad ending that i don't think any of us hoped would happen. really it's obviously there's not much we can say about this, charlie . can say about this, charlie. it's just, you know, the thoughts with the wife and children and everyone that loved him. >> absolutely. and as, doctor claire mason said, it's absolutely devastating, as you'd expect it would to be hear the news after a 3 or 4 day search of your husband and father going, going missing. but the pounng going, going missing. but the pouring out of tributes from
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people right across the media and the medical profession when he first went missing to send their hopes and prayers and love to the family, obviously it's going to be incredibly difficult, knowing this news today, but there the idea that he's been found, i think will will be the smallest of, reliefs, but obviously tragic and devastating news that he's he's now been found. >> actually, that's quite an important point, isn't it, joe, that there is some closure because, you know, imagine. yes. >> i mean, you know , who are we >> i mean, you know, who are we to even intrude on someone's appalling grief? but yes, it is probably better to know than not know. i just think there are not very many people who are natural enthusiasts , brilliant enthusiasts, brilliant communicators who can make something like medicine and health as accessible and fun as health as accessible and fun as he did. and actually, your producer lewis, was talking earlier before we came in about a kids program that he used to do called blood and guts, which was about the history of ,
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was about the history of, surgical operations and things like that. but i think you know, that attitude of making it accessible , not bossy, but accessible, not bossy, but changing things and, you know, little things can make a difference, will have had a huge difference, will have had a huge difference on many, many people's lives. and i think, you know, that legacy is something that may have actually saved somebody else's life or made them make a change in their life. yeah. and i think that is something that, you know, we should all be grateful for. >> i just want to read one particular message that's coming in here. andrea. good afternoon. andrea thank you for your message. andrea says. i'm absolutely shocked and devastated by the news. i have watched doctor mosley and his wife claire on so many tv shows after the years, over the years and a benefit from following their dietary and nutritional advice. my sincerest condolences to michael's family and friends. and andrew, you've just echoed what so many people are saying. incredibly sad news this sunday lunchtime . now we go back to lunchtime. now we go back to politics and sir keir starmer is launching the labour manifesto this week with a cast iron pledge not to put up income tax.
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national insurance or vat. the plan, which we revealed by the party's leader and his shadow cabinet on thursday , will cabinet on thursday, will include a triple lock that labour government will not raise the big three taxes for five years. joining me now is gb news political correspondent olivia utley. olivia this is making the papers today. big announcement. but there's a lot not being said in this announcement, isn't there? i mean, what do you make of it? >> well, starmer was sort of painted into a corner by rishi sunak. he really had to make this announcement because over the last couple of weeks, the conservatives have launched an ad campaign suggesting that a labour government would cost the average family £2,000 a year in tax rises . now, that was one of tax rises. now, that was one of the only conservative messages which did actually seem to be cutting through to use the westminster parlance. and so keir starmer really did have to come out and say, no, he will not raise any of the three major taxes income tax, national
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insurance or vat . it's very insurance or vat. it's very similar to what tony blair did in 1997, when he said he wouldn't be raising any of the main three taxes, and also he would be sticking to the conservative plan for day to day spending. now, this really will have taken the wind out of the conservatives sails. but of course it does leave keir starmer and more specifically his shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, in a very sticky position. labour have promised quite a few very expensive policies and so far it isn't quite clear how they're going to be funded. we've heard a lot about clamping down on tax evasion. we've heard a lot about closing that loophole that allows non—doms to pay much less tax than residents of the united kingdom. and we have heard a lot about the plan to cut vat for private schools . but according private schools. but according to the conservatives calculations, anyway, even if those three policies raised as much as labour is expecting it to, and that's a really big if. it still wouldn't cover the amount that they've promised in
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spending . so there seems to be a spending. so there seems to be a black hole in labour's finances . black hole in labour's finances. now. one way to fix that black hole would have been to raise one of the three major taxes. but starmer has promised not to do that. so i think everyone will be watching very, very closely on tuesday when that manifesto is launched, to see where that extra money is going to be coming from. shadow chancellor rachel reeves is said to be a maths whiz kid. well, she's going to have to be because a few rabbits are going to have to be pulled out of a few hats. >> i think they might need more hats and more rabbits. olivia utley . thank you very much for utley. thank you very much for that. update on the keir starmers announcement to not put up starmers announcement to not put up the big three taxes, now let's see what my panel make of this. i have joe phillips and charlie rowley still with me, both of whom have been political advisers , coming to you first on advisers, coming to you first on this one, charlie. i mean, all right, the big three taxes, but an awful lot of taxes still that aren't being mentioned in this, aren't being mentioned in this, aren't they? >> absolutely. and olivia was just saying there when the
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manifestos launched on thursday. i think labour's announcements coming out, it's tuesday for the tories. but when thursday's labour manifesto comes out, there'll be lots of questions to answer as to where they're going to fund all of the things that they said they're going to do, andifs they said they're going to do, and it's whilst it's telling and it sounds like a headline to say we're not going to put up your taxes. we all know taxes are at the highest burden that they've ever been. the tories have put those up to deal with covid, to deal with energy prices, make those interventions that they needed during the furlough scheme, etc. the toys are going to be pledging to cut taxes and the labour will say that they're not putting them up, but they're not putting them up, but they're not saying that they're going to cut national insurance. they're not saying that they're not going to cut income tax. they might freeze it, which means that they'll be freezing at the highest level that they've been for some time, when the tories are going to pledge to cut it. so that's just one red herring there. and as olivia was saying, you're right. there's going to be a black hole that needs to be filled. that's why the tories have been pushing this £2,000 cost to families, which the treasury have had a role in. i think the tories have got some, i'm sad to say. ministers haven't been able to articulate what's happened over the last week, which is a bit annoying if
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you're a conservative, because the treasury has been involved in drawing up 21 of 27 costings that the tory party put out , the that the tory party put out, the other six came from, i think, labour publications. one independent business and one was, i think, a question in the house of commons that, you know, the tories sort of got the calculations for and added the two figures together, divided it by working households. so the idea that the treasury haven't had any involvement in costing labour's plans is for the birds. it's not right to say, which is why the tories are still going to be pegging this £2,000 cost to be pegging this £2,000 cost to hard working people over, over the course of the campaign, and they seem to have forgotten that as you've just pointed out, that as you've just pointed out, that we're now paying the highest level of taxes since the second world war, so that has actually happened under the tory government . so we are at government. so we are at a higher level of taxes. that means that some people with pension and other benefit increases are now pulled to , in increases are now pulled to, in paying increases are now pulled to, in paying tax, whereas they weren't before because the fiscal drag effect. exactly. because because the personal allowance hasn't gone up . and i think, you know, gone up. and i think, you know, the £2,000 is a red herring . the
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the £2,000 is a red herring. the tories want to make it stick. but what labour need to do is to remind the public that since 20 1918, £130 billion have been wasted. of your money. my money, dawn's money, viewer's money on schemes that include the rwanda schemes that include the rwanda scheme that include hs2, that include over £500 million in a contract to fujitsu for helping northern ireland gb trade post—brexit. you know, the list goes on and on and on and i think what we need to do is to actually have a grown up conversation about where money is spent , because if it's conversation about where money is spent, because if it's about bribing us with a few quid here and there in tax cuts, we already know everybody who fills their car up with petrol pays for a train ticket , buys for a train ticket, buys clothes, buys food, does shopping. they know that everything is really expensive. and when the winter comes, it'll get expensive again. so we need to have a conversation about who do you trust to spend the money
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properly? is it going to be somebody who's actually going to fix public services, or is it going to be somebody who's going to line the pockets of their covid mates making money out of a pandemic, or giving it to crazy schemes like rwanda and the resolution foundation , who the resolution foundation, who have calculated that? >> i mean , no matter what, >> i mean, no matter what, labour and conservatives both. this isn't even political are promising. taxes will have to be raised. something has to pay to fulfil all the promises we're being made. >> so by all parties, by all parties. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> we just heard mel stride, you know, talking about they're going to all these mental health hubs. well, they've had 14 years to do that. who's going to pay for the 14 years? >> i mean that's that's all you've got to do at the moment. if you're against the government, it's like, well, you've had 14 years. exactly. i mean, money has to come from somewhere. so all the stories we're reading today are about these pledges, and we won't cut this tax. we won't cut that. the money has to come from somewhere. >> well it does and the, you know, look, you know, i think,
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you know, i'm trying to be as analytical as well as political as i possibly can, but i think, look, you know, there was disruption, obviously during brexit and it took not just in terms of finances but in terms of political bandwidth within the civil service to actually try and get a deal done. but that was what the democratic result brought out that had to happen. you then had covid where yes, i agree with joe to up to a point where, you know, a lot of money was wasted. it went into contracts that it shouldn't have done.i contracts that it shouldn't have done. i blame no civil servant or anybody that was involved in administering those contracts. at a time when the government was facing, facing an absolute national emergency and anybody that came forward that was awarded a contract, knowing in blind faith that they were never going to be able to deliver, but were able to swindle the government effectively. and those civil servants that were part of a procurement team that had to procure all kinds of things that, you know, those people, those people should be, well, those people should be in jail and they should not be. but i'm not i would never blame civil servants. i would never blame the government at all, whatever the government was that
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administered those contracts. i know some people like to. i'm not saying that. but, you know, there was a lot of waste. but but pursue the people that took us for a ride. >> stop. you know, trying to claw. >> well but again. but but but but but because of covid we've seen a the burden on the nhs. so it does need more money. that's why we've seen more people that need the a talking therapies because of mental health, because of mental health, because of mental health, because of anxiety. all because of covid. so there has to have been an increase in the spending in those areas. we need to now get that down. covid is gone. we've moved on. so it's about now instead of just spending the final thing, i'd say instead of raising taxes, you can, you know, increase your revenue by growing the economy. and the economy is now starting to grow. inflation is down. so that's where the tories will say, don't put that at risk by having a labour party that wants to put up your taxes. >> when you have a government like the one that we've got pursuing carers who earn a penny more than they're allowed to, and then trying to chase them for their, you know, their carers benefit while they have done nothing to pursue the crooks who made a fortune out of
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covid, you see the trouble is, yes, we need to grow the economy, but you can't grow an economy, but you can't grow an economy when you've got everything that is broken. if you've got people who want to work but who can't get seen by a doctor or can't get a hospital appointment, they're not going to go back to, you mentioned growing the economy, and we're running out of time on this debate, unfortunately. >> but, labour didn't mention corporation tax anywhere in their announcement today. but we'll see. manifesto revealed this week. now throughout the election campaign, we will be heanng election campaign, we will be hearing from people across the united kingdom about what really matters to you today. for the first time, we meet lynne from yorkshire. let's have a look what she has to say. i'm lynne massey davis, i'm 63 years old. >> i'm originally from the west midlands, but have lived in yorkshire for over 30 years. i make glass objects , memorial make glass objects, memorial jewellery like like cremains and other things for people. and i make silver jewellery. brexit's caused make silverjewellery. brexit's caused me enormous problems, the cost of materials has gone up. the ability to import things efficiently from other countries
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without paying, import duties and tariffs, which i never had to pay before . the main issues to pay before. the main issues that are important for me in this election is better management of the nhs. i'm really worried about getting ill. i've recently experiences from my cousin barbara, who died two years ago. she had a hernia that became strangulated and she'd been waiting on a waiting list for eight months, and then she, the hernia strangulated and an ambulance was called, and she waited seven hours for the ambulance and died just as the ambulance and died just as the ambulance got there. in the past, i've actually voted for every probably every party. but this time i'm going to vote laboun this time i'm going to vote labour. and it's purely on. although i don't agree with all of labour's policies, i'm concerned about their views on women and sex and gender, but i can't vote for conservative and
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i want to vote for the party that will oust the conservatives and in my book, that's labour. >> interesting views, but that's what it's all about . getting what it's all about. getting your views across. now for the best analysis and opinion on that story and more, go to our website gb news. scott now let's cheer up, shall we? time for the great british giveaway and your chance to make this summer really special. with over £16,000 worth of prizes to be won, that's £15,000 in cash, no tax your cash and a whole host of treats. you have to be in it to win it though. as someone once said. and here's all the details you need. how to do that? >> it's our summer spectacular. three top prizes that have to be won. there's cash £15,000 in tax free cash to spend on anything you like this summer, plus a brand new iphone 15 with a set of apple airpods. and if that wasn't enough, we'll also treat you to some fun in the sun with
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welcome back to gb news. p&o me dawn neesom . natalie. online and dawn neesom. natalie. online and digital radio. hope you're having a wonderful sunday afternoon out there. now, another labour policy announced today. they say they will establish 80 new rape courts across england and wales to fast track cases as part of a wide ranging plan to tackle violence against women and girls. the specialist courts will be set up in unused rooms with spare capacity within every existing court , in an effort to end court, in an effort to end a growing backlog of cases that causes 60% of rape victims to drop out before their case is even begin, i have charlie rowley and joe phillips with me,
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joe, the statistics on rapes are horrific . i mean, 60% of rape horrific. i mean, 60% of rape victims drop out and 26, result in no charge whatsoever. so, i mean, in theory , this is a good mean, in theory, this is a good idea. but as i keep coming back to all these announcements, we hean to all these announcements, we hear, how are you going to do it? what how what's the just on those statistics? >> that's 60% that the cps have decided to prosecute. that's not including no, no. the ones where it doesn't even get that far. and the wait time, you know , and the wait time, you know, two, sometimes three years. >> yeah. and the way women are treated . treated. >> so you know and it's for, for both sides, it's, you know, for women obviously, but it's also for somebody who is accused , for somebody who is accused, whose life is on hold while they're waiting for, you know, i mean, i think, you know, there are some things where you have to say, we need to do this, and we need to do it for all the right reasons. and i can't imagine anybody would disagree with it. and so you find the money for that somehow you can use buildings. you don't need to build special places. you can use rooms , you can fast track.
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use rooms, you can fast track. and i mean, after all this government or the outgoing government or the outgoing government were going to do fast track for asylum claims, if you remember. well, frankly, this is a damn sight more important. remember. well, frankly, this is a damn sight more important . and a damn sight more important. and we'll have an impact on people's lives and we'll also show two things. one is that women and girls violence is taken seriously and will be punished, and the other one is to show perpetrators that they will be punished. so i think it's a very good thing, and i'm sure that the labour party, should they get elected, will fight the wherewithal to do that. and you, you know, you encourage solicitors, lawyers, barristers and the other thing they're talking about is having, specialist , support workers. talking about is having, specialist, support workers. i'm not necessarily police officers, but in police stations and, you know, some areas are better than others. but as we know with policing, it is very, very fragmented where you are . and fragmented where you are. and the first problem is, you know, does anybody take it seriously? >> well, this is i mean, when i said it's expected to be announced, i mean, it has been leaked to the papers today, but
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it is expected to be announced. so i mean, well make of that what you will, charlie, look, i mean, every woman and, you know, any anyone that loves women will think this is a brilliant thing, but i just want to know how it's going to actually happen. we need more, more specialists to deal with traumatised women. we need more police officers to investigate this. we need more. we need more of everything. we need more funding to put into this. so it's all very well making this announcement. but how are you going to do it? >> well, that's absolutely right. and the first thing to say is that joe was spot on about those figures and the statistics, because it's the 60% of drop outs when a charge has been brought. this is even before it's even been reported, before it's even been reported, before you've turned up. so many women don't bother. and they. exactly. so i think in order to tackle it and it goes to a wider problem about the criminal justice system speed in this case in this is of the essence. so if you are a victim, you should be able to turn up to the police station to see someone thatis police station to see someone that is specially trained in terms of the trauma that you have had and to get it processed quickly and efficiently. now thatis quickly and efficiently. now that is not just going to be beneficial for the victim
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because you don't want to have to. then 3 or 4 years later in a criminal court, have to relive that experience. that's why people will drop out. but it is also, as joe was rightly saying, the accused. the trouble with rape cases is that it is very, very often between one word against another and it might be in a part of a relationship. it might be where alcohol or a night out was, and you don't know the relationship or the balance between. so they are complex cases. so the sooner that they are resolved or the sooner that they are dealt with, the better. but i do think that there is room. and one of the things about covid, and we were just talking about, you know, there were ways and innovative ways that you had to deal with things. i'm, you know, in a post covid world, i would have thought that we would not be having packed commuter trains, as we usually do today, because people can sort of have the ebbs and flows and people don't have to pay the cost to, you know, to stand up on a train. i would have thought post—covid we can use council buildings that don't sit until councillors sit until 7 pm, use those buildings to get through that backlog of the criminal justice system. >> i think that's a really important point. >> so i do think an awful lot of things done very, very fast dunng things done very, very fast during covid and now suddenly we
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can't it all grinds to a great, great point. >> right. and we're running out of time. unfortunately i'm dawn neesom this is gb news sunday and there's loads more coming up on today's really packed show. but first it's time for the news headunes but first it's time for the news headlines with theo. >> it's 2:31. i'm theo chikomba in the gb newsroom. the family of michael mosley has confirmed that a body found on the greek island of symi is that of the missing tv doctor, doctor clare bailey . mosley says she's bailey. mosley says she's devastated after her husband's body was discovered beneath a fence that runs around a bar on aghia marina beach. she described her husband as wonderful, funny, kind and brilliant and said that the family takes comfort in the fact that he nearly made made it to safety. after an incredible climb . doctor mosley, who was climb. doctor mosley, who was 67, was found in hilly , rocky 67, was found in hilly, rocky terrain around 30 minutes walk from the village where he was
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last seen . the conservatives are last seen. the conservatives are setting out a plan to save around £12 billion a year by tightening the criteria for those who claim benefits. it would see more people told to find work, including some who received disability payments. the prime minister has also pledged to tackle what he's called sick note culture. it would mean gps are no longer able to sign people off work with specialist workplace health professionals, given the responsibility. instead, labour called it a vague promise that won't get britain healthy or bnng won't get britain healthy or bring benefits under control . bring benefits under control. meanwhile, labour is pledging to alleviate some of the pressure on overcrowded prisons with a plan to add 14,000 new places. it would see some prisons classified as sites of national importance, so ministers can take control of planning decisions. it comes after some inmates were released early due to severe over crowding across the prisons system. labour
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leader sir keir starmer says the problem is getting worse. >> well, i am critical of the tories early release scheme because what's happened is that they're releasing early prisoners who should still be in prisoners who should still be in prison and that's a shocking state of affairs. and like the many problems that they have left for the country, if we do come into power , we're going to come into power, we're going to have to fix it. now, that will involve building prisons. that will involve taking tough decisions because the money's been allocated for prison building. but there are tough decisions about planning and getting those prisons up. but what we can't have is a continuation of this total mess . continuation of this total mess. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash loads . to gb news. com slash loads. >> thank you very much, theo. now there's loads more coming up on today's show. but before i tell you what we've got lined up
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for you. nana akua show is on at 3:00, and she joins us now to reveal . looking gorgeous, as reveal. looking gorgeous, as always. what? she's coming up on her show. nana what's what what surprise have you got in store for us today? >> well , on for us today? >> well, on sunday we always have a surprise. i do actually have a surprise. i do actually have a surprise. i do actually have a mystery guest and obviously during this election period, we all need a bit of a laugh, don't we? frankly. so coming up at about 5:00, my mystery guest, i'll give you a clue right now. she is one of the creators of jongleurs. that is, of course, the comedy club circuit group. and yeah, she'll be talking to us about her journey and what you need to do if you want to be a comedian, which i'm sure some of the politicians could probably tell you about, because some of them the way they're behaving. but look, we're talking about keir starmer's plans with prisons, and we're going to be because part of it is that they are going to rip out some of the planning laws. so you could potentially have a prison in your back yard. and if you're going to rip out planning laws, what other things can you do? can you put in pylons? can you put in wind farms in someone's backyard? so we're going to be
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looking at the efficacy, efficacy of that kind of approach. plus all the usual stuff, the big topics of the day and yes, loads more. >> good point. and yeah, i thought that one. that sounds like a cracking show. don't go anywhere. nana is coming up straight after this at 3:00. thank you very much. nana. now remember, let me know all your thoughts on all of the stories we're discussing today by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation or message me on our socials. we're @gbnews. now there is loads more coming up on today's show before we get to nana, a senior labour figure has said the party will bnng figure has said the party will bring back freedom of movement in the eu. hold on a minute. what is this? just a foot in the door tactic to undo brexit or a great move for the country. what do you reckon? or are that? and more to come. i'm neesom and you're with gb news,
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country . i'm sorry or a great move for the country. i'm going to sorry or a great move for the country . i'm going to hazard country. i'm going to hazard a rough guess as to what the panel can make of this, but i'm going to ask them. in any case, let's go to joe. he's a former labour adviser. >> no, but i'm not a former laboun >> no, but i'm not a former labour. well, i mean, you know, i worked for paddy ashdown. oh of course. >> yes. >> yes. >> sorry. get me muddled up with scarlett mccgwire. oh, yeah. of course everybody does. michelle did this last year. >> so lovely. thank you very much. right. okay so any case but you've been involved in politics. so you know what you're talking about. unlike me. so, what do you make of this then? this is an interview that. >> yeah, she gave an interview . >> yeah, she gave an interview. this is fiona urquhart, who's something to do with, friends of labour abroad or something like that. >> senior labour figure. according to the story. well, yeah, and, you know , this is yeah, and, you know, this is going to allow people like. don't tell me, ian duncan smith and people like that and probably bill cash and various other people, all the usual suspects come out and go, oh, labour's got a secret plan to undo brexit. and all of that nonsense actually , we need to nonsense actually, we need to talk about brexit. but and i know i've said this on every
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topic we've discussed today, but we need to have a grown up conversation. brexit has been an absolute disaster in so many areas and instead of going it was the will of the people. what happened was a vote with no plan. no plan , no plan. that's plan. no plan, no plan. that's why we've had to plough millions and millions into fujitsu, as i mentioned earlier, to try and sort out northern ireland and trade over there. so actually the impact , trade over there. so actually the impact, as we heard on the clip from the people's vote lady in yorkshire or wherever she was, you know, the impact on small businesses, the impact on food, the impact on farming, the impact on, holidays, travel, etc. it says we need to have a conversation about how we make it work better. that does not mean by saying you know, bringing back some sort of freedom of movement. and this is actually also about expats being able to vote abroad from abroad. >> this is i mean, what she actually said in this, an interview with a majorca local newspaper, should labour win the next election, it's prepared to revisit some of the brexit agreements, such as the windsor
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agreement, and make it easier for britons to come and go in europe, now obviously keir starmer has been at pains to point out very, very strongly that , you know, he's not point out very, very strongly that, you know, he's not going back on on the brexit agreement. he doesn't want to rejoin the eu. so what do you make of what fiona has said here? >> well, it would be, you know, mildly annoying. i don't want to put too funny. it's not going to blow the wheels off the labour campaign, but, you know, i won't say any more about the tory campaign at the minute, but, but it will be mildly annoying because , as you say, all of the because, as you say, all of the hard work that's gone into changing the labour party , where changing the labour party, where the labour party, you know, are trying to win back votes, you deserted them in 2019 because they wanted to get brexit done. people that voted leave because they bought into not necessarily policies or ideas, but the themes of taking back control of your money, borders and laws from the eu. the idea that there is someone from the labour party , a spokesperson clearly attached to the labour party, sort of suggesting to expats that if you vote labour, yes, we
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can try and we'll reopen the negotiations to see that you can have more freedom of movement and come to the uk and go back to france or spain or whatever, outside of that 90 day period that i think you now have. if you're not resident there. but that's a quid pro quo, because the reason relating to antagonise the labour leadership is because that means that you open to free movement of more people coming into the uk that are not uk citizens. so it does play are not uk citizens. so it does play havoc with the messaging . play havoc with the messaging. it distorts it slightly. it is not the end of the world. i would probably suggest, as a political analyst rather than a conservative party card carrier, but it is still annoying and it might be something that , as joe might be something that, as joe was saying, you know, conservative senior politicians will want to be pushing on their own literature. perhaps that if you vote for labour, you'll get more freedom of movement. they'll take us back into the eu. a vote for reform is just a vote for labour. so stick with us as the conservatives >> i mean, joe, i mean, you know, labour have it's put a statement out as well saying none of this is our policy. we've left the eu and labour is clear. we are not going back . clear. we are not going back. but the conservatives had a pretty torrid week, to be fair,
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with rishi sunak and the commonwealth, etc. they chose him. yeah. no no no. but i mean should they be trying to make more of this interview. >> you know, because, you know, she's who is she? she's not a part of the shadow cabinet. she's an official within labour party organisation . and actually party organisation. and actually keir starmer has made it extremely clear no , nobody in extremely clear no, nobody in the labour party wants to revisit going through another referendum. god help us or revisit that. but there are some agreements where there needs to be another conversation because, you know, so many years on, things change and people are realising now that, oh, that might have seemed like a good idea at the time. actually it's not. and it's not always what we're doing in this country, but it's what other countries are doing. and don't forget, whilst we're talking this weekend, the european elections are taking place. you know , millions and place. you know, millions and millions. you know, we're all stuck in our little election here. millions and millions of people taking part in elections
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across europe. now, the impact of those elections may change the shape of the european institutions over the next few years. so we will have to keep talking. you know, they are our nearest neighbour. do you think there will ever be another referendum on whether we should join the eu again , possibly in join the eu again, possibly in some years . some years. >> do you support that? >> do you support that? >> well, i supported staying in. i was a firm romania, but i think david cameron , who might think david cameron, who might be doing a marvellous job as foreign secretary, he was a fool. he only went for that referendum because he was frightened of nigel farage, and he didn't have to abide by it. he could have said, i hear what you say. there's clearly need to do more work. and boris johnson, who is the most appalling, despicable man who's destroyed politics and democracy and trust in this country, went ahead and campaigned for brexit and has never put anything in place to
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deliver or make it work for people. >> yeah, boris isn't here to defend himself, so i thought he was joining gb news. and it goes because we have mentioned one of the candidates earlier, here are all the other candidates running in the chingford and woodford green constituency as chris brody for the green party. josh hadley, liberal democrat, paul liguori, reform uk. faiza shaheen, independent. iain duncan smith, conservative and unionist sharma, tatler sharma, tatler for the labour party . tatler for the labour party. okay, now i'm dawn neesom and this is gb news sunday and there's lots more coming up on there's lots more coming up on the show. interesting one. this a 23 year old plus size model has been crowned miss alabama, but will we be debating is idolising obese models empowering or simply dangerous? all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel. please don't go too far
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>> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us at gbnews.com/yoursay your say by commenting, you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you can even talk to me, bev turner or any of the members of the gb news family . simply go to news family. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay . gbnews.com/yoursay. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. now we've just been talking during the break about our charlie's trousers. have you missed beginning of the show? you really do. >> you can't be truthful . you're >> you can't be truthful. you're actually talking about charlie's thighs. >> thighs? >> thighs? >> sorry. charlie's thighs. >> sorry. charlie's thighs. >> if you miss the beginning of the show, you really do need to catch up. because charlie's thighs featured quite heavily
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right now. so anyway, we're talking about fitness and bodies, etc. oh stop it now. a 23 year old plus size model called sarah millican has been crowned miss alabama in 2024. marvellous. after a huge win in the national pageant, the beauty queen has been subject to a mass onune queen has been subject to a mass online trolling where haters have branded her an unhealthy embarrassment. that's one of the nicer things people have been saying, by the way, but but look, you can see pictures of her there. is this idolising obese models ? is it empowering obese models? is it empowering or is it dangerous given the obesity crisis we are facing, not just in this country , but not just in this country, but all over the world, joe, i'm going to come to you first on this one, some of the messages have been has to say pretty vile . but i mean, you know, there's a healthy respect for sort of like, you know, sort of like, you know, there's a huge difference between this is a tncky difference between this is a tricky one, you know,
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encouraging people, particularly women and particularly young women. >> yes. to have body confidence. and there are cosmetic companies that actually promote that, whether it's, you know , people whether it's, you know, people with caesarian scars and mastectomy scars or, you know, fat age, etc, etc. so that actually we move away from the idealised barbie type thing. but it is quite clear that this young woman is very, very overweight , young woman is very, very overweight, mate. and i think, anything that makes obesity acceptable because of its health issues, we ought to be regarding it in the same way as we regarded smoking. and i find it terribly distressing. when you go to a supermarket and you see really overweight small children and you look in the parents trolleys , and i'm not talking trolleys, and i'm not talking about people who haven't got any money or people like that, but the stuff and we know the figures out last week about the incidences of cancer in young people from processed food,
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ultra processed food, we know obesity is costing the nhs and therefore us absolute fortunes, and we know that it leads to all sorts of other problems. so i think we have to get the balance right. yes be body confident. nobody needs to be a stick insect, but but let's not celebrate . unhealthiness. celebrate. unhealthiness. >> yeah, i mean, we're running out of time. unfortunately, charlie , just coming to you charlie, just coming to you quickly. i mean, it is. i mean, look, you know, she's she's a lovely young lady. i mean, she's she's very confident in her body, which is a good thing. however, it's that fine line when we have children going to school who are already already obese in this country , how do we obese in this country, how do we draw that line between . draw that line between. >> yeah. so i think, look, there is no place for hate. i think in the modern society. i know that's probably an obvious thing to say, but the amount of abuse that this young girl might have had as a child for being overweight and being constantly overweight, i think if that is a way in which she has a platform to say, i am who i am and you know, we need to rid this hate, then i think that is fine. but
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you're right. i don't think it should be an advert for young kids going forward. >> okay, we are running out of time. unfortunately, that is a huge debate and we don't have enough time, right, i you've been with me. dawn neesom and this has been gb news sunday. thank you so much for your time. really appreciate it. don't go anywhere though, because there's plenty more coming up on gb news today. in just a moment. it's a debate with nana akua at 6:00. it's neil oliver free speech nafion it's neil oliver free speech nation at seven and mark dolan at nine. thank you so much for joining me. enjoy the rest of your weekend. but first, here's the weather with ellie. see you soon. enjoy your sunday. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so it's been a cloudy day for some of us, but there has been some sunshine around, all thanks to high pressure situated close by towards the southwest of the uk. but it's these weather fronts out towards the north and northwest that will bring some outbreaks of rain. as we head through the rest of today and into the start of the new
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working week. so a damp end to the day for northern ireland, and then into parts of wales and northern and central parts of england, as well as we head overnight tonight, turning a little drier across northern ireland and parts of scotland into the early hours of monday morning. still 1 or 2 showers across the very far northeast, but it's that cloudy. those cloudy conditions across england and wales that will give some milder temperatures overnight, maybe 11 or 12 degrees here under the clearer spells across parts of scotland and northern ireland. perhaps quite a chilly start in places. maybe some grass frost as well, but further south that cloudy and damp start to the new working week . this to the new working week. this could give some tricky driving conditions and perhaps some disruption through the morning rush hour on monday. but further west across parts of wales, northern ireland and northern western parts of england, it will be a bit of a drier and brighter start to the day. a chilly start in places across parts of scotland, but quite quickly replaced by those heavy and blustery showers pushing in through the north from the through the north from the through the north from the through the early hours of the morning through the rest of monday. those showers will continue across parts of scotland slowly pushing their way southwards as that area of
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rain across eastern parts of england pushes away towards the southeast. the best of the sunshine again likely to be across western parts of england, west wales , but plenty of heavy west wales, but plenty of heavy and blustery showers around temperatures on monday. still disappointing for the time of yeah disappointing for the time of year. around 18 or 19 degrees in the south, and again only 10 or 12 degrees further north. as we go through the rest of monday evening, those showers do continue for a time, but they will gradually start to ease overnight, leaving a bit of a dner overnight, leaving a bit of a drier start for many of us on tuesday, plenty of showers still around on tuesday though, but perhaps something a little drier on the way through wednesday. however, further rain is likely through the latter half of the week . week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather
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