rishi >> well, earlier on today, rishi sunak insisted he hadn't given up hope of winning the election , up hope of winning the election, but he did warn voters not to give labour a blank check. the prime minister was campaigning at a school in lincolnshire as new figures showed the economy recorded no growth in the month of april. it's something of a setback for the prime minister after his recent claim that britain's economy had turned a corner. the tories pointed to figures that showed there was growth in the months before april, but the liberal democrats said rishi sunak had utterly failed to deliver on his promises. the green party launched its election manifesto today with a promise to tax the super rich to help mend what they're calling broken britain. the party says it would tax the wealthiest 1% of workers and would raise national insurance by 8% on those earning more than £50,000 a year. the greens say it would raise £50 billion, which they want to invest in health and social care in order to defend and restore the nhs,

they said. the greens have also pledged to bring water companies, railways and the big five retail energy companies into public ownership and build more social housing. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts , scan sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com slash alerts. time now for headliners . now for headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners >> it's the newspaper preview show, which takes a pinch of the next day's stories and adds a punch of comedians. i'm andrew doyle, i'm joined by the follically challenged josh howie and steve and alan. it's a battle of the baldies, apparently. how are you both so bald.7 yeah. are you are you in a good mood , josh? i'm bald? yeah. are you are you in a good mood , josh? i'm great mood. good mood, josh? i'm great mood. >> it's lovely to have you. i haven't been on with you as a host for a little bit. no,

that's been deliberate. >> yes, but nevertheless, it is. it is pleasing to see you and you, steve. i just want to point out that today i gave blood because i'm an au type. because you know, the russian hackers means that everyone needs they need the au blood . do they? need the au blood. do they? i didn't know that. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> isn't the au blood the one that you can inject into anyone? it's the universal donor. yeah i literally give more than i receive. that is not just true in blood. just relationships work. all of it, really. but i just wanted to mention it. just that i'm better than everyone. you're a good, good person. i'm just better than you, too. i think that is the definition of virtue signalling via blood. there we go. well, we're going to start by looking at the front of thursday's newspapers. the daily mail is leading with a tory wipe—out risks one party socialist state. quite an alarmist headline there. the times has got growth and prosperity. our priority, says starmer and the telegraph. starmer and the telegraph. starmer paves the way for tax rises. the guardian has got sunak aid bet on election date before announcement. that's a funny story. we're going to get to that in a bit. and i news has got labour set to announce big cuts to public services in the uk. finally, the daily star

nothing to do with the election. instead it's a three loins on a shirt. those are your front pages. right. we're going to kick off with the daily mail on thursday. josh, you've got the details. >> yes, a tory wipe—out risks one party socialist state. this is the new tactics of the tories. they're bringing this one out early. they were probably going to have to at some point, but we've still got a month to go or so. >> this is the tories. this is the daily mail. no, no, no but this is no, no. >> what's happened is all the tory party, they've gone cuckoo, cuckoo and they've all what have they done. >> they've gone cuckoo. >> they've gone cuckoo. >> what noise is that. >> what noise is that. >> it's the list. everybody join in together because we've got a message that we thought you'd gone mad for a moment. >> i have gone mad. yes, i'm mad with the tory. >> no, what it is. >> no, what it is. >> yeah. this is what they do. so they're all sending out the same tweet, and they tweet the word of the day is supermajority. so they're all saying whatever you do, don't vote for labour because they'll get a supermajority.

get a superm ajority. >> get a supermajority. >> so let's let's think about this more broadly though. isn't steve the idea of a supermajority, the idea of a wipe—out of one of the two major parties actually could be a bad thing, whichever way you vote. well, if that were the case, then why weren't they mentioning this in 2019? there were no posters saying vote tory. but you know, come on, don't go too crazy on it because if it's that bad for democracy, then they should be saying that back then, where all of a sudden it seems to be when the supermajority goes the other way towards laboun goes the other way towards labour. oh, this could be the end of it. this could be absolutely terrible. grant shapps was doing an interview and he was saying that this could be really bad for. i mean, i love that they've changed position from vote for a tory win to don't let us lose too badly. come on. i mean, we've all had a laugh, but come on, don't embarrass us like this. yeah, although grant shapps because some people how that would work anyway. oh, some of you vote for us, some of you don't vote for us. and we'll we'll work it out somehow. yeah. you just want to say the measure of the public. that's what a general election is about. you just have to put your policies out there and people vote for the ones they like best. what about that? well that would be much better.

>> but i think that, as you were saying, yeah, this is a but they should be just a bit more honest. like, look how dangerous it is when you have a supermajority. look how badly we messed up . you don't want to messed up. you don't want to have. so that that might be also what they want to do as well. you just say there's a lovely bit in the grant shapps interview where he says that, i mean, it's not all over. >> there's still all to play for. yeah. if keir starmer keeps gaffing not just gaffing, he'd have to gaffe a quicker rate than rishi gaffing to catch up with him and overtake. yeah, but you never know. with politics. i mean, you know, he could kill someone, he could do a gaffe and a guff. he could do all sorts of things. you never know. anyway, we're going to go to the front cover of the times. who's got this one? is this you, steve? yep. growth and prosperity are priorities, says starmer , labour priorities, says starmer, labour leader refuses to rule out tax rises . it's interesting. leader refuses to rule out tax rises. it's interesting. this is the times they talk about the plan for prosperity. some other newspapers are taking exactly the same news and saying that labour are clearing the path for tax rises. and if you look at it, all they've done is they said they won't increase vat, they won't increase national insurance and they won't

increase income tax. but they've not mentioned capital gains. and therefore dot dot dot the path is open. i mean maybe that's where they're going to increase it. but they've been speaking about wanting to have a plan to grow the economy. it's almost liz truss esque, right? without the doing things in such a way that absolutely cause a big old kerfuffle. the rishi's also, there's a whole thing in there where they were asking keir starmer about backing jeremy corbyn back in 2019, and he says, like, there was a time when he knew that jeremy wasn't going to win. it sounds like a terrible answer. but also remember that rishi stabbed your beloved boris johnson in the back. none of these have great histories, but they're politicians, you know? i mean, that's what they do. but you know, this is the week when the manifestos are out. so this is what all the excitement is about. people are sort of scouring through for something to make the election a bit more exciting. >> well, so that and finally we're going to actually see what labour are about. >> yes. because they've constantly said we've got all the answers, but then be specific about what those answers are. well, they kind of have here. >> they're saying that they're going to do a lot of, investment in house building. and that is

really the way to go. they obviously realise what the problem is , but and they've also problem is, but and they've also identified how to deal with it, which is dealing with the red tape. there's a few issues i just i happen to have read an in depth article about it. that's why i'm so knowledgeable more than showing off. just tell us what the issue is, as well as giving blood and, but one of the things they're talking about is like new towns. that's not the way to go, right? it's about really getting into the green belt. even like a 2% of the green belt would sort out everything and cutting the red tape, that's where to go. >> so we'll see. well josh has all the answers, even if the manifesto doesn't, we're going to move on to the front cover of the guardian. what's going on there? >> oh, it's a fantastic story, sunak. i'd bet on election date before announcement. so this is rishi sunak's closest parliamentary aide. you bet £100 that there would be a, july election. what happened? a couple of days. >> hey. >> hey. >> hello. what a coincidence. >> hello. what a coincidence. >> well, you know, he might just have guessed it, right. >> he might have. yeah, because rishi sunak said, hey, there's going to be a july election. and then it came to him in a dream.

so now the gambling commission are on it, and he's trying to be like, oh, i don't want to get involved. i don't want to like look guilty or anything. it's like me, you know, he said, yeah, i should have thought how it looks. it looks like you're guilty. >> well, look, i don't want to cast aspersions. we don't know is the truth. yes, but, steve, it doesn't psychic. it doesn't look, yes, i want to give him the benefit of the doubt. it doesn't look great, does it? well, i'll defend him even more strongly than you. andrew. this guy deserves to win this money because he's so clearly going to because he's so clearly going to be out of a job. they're all going to be out of a job. give him a chance to get some sort of retirement fund. and this illegal betting is one way. well, that's the other thing. maybe he was just thinking, let's, let's make some money while i can, you know? what else is he going to bet on? >> you go over to reform. that's what everyone else is doing. >> he should have bet that rishi wasn't going to turn up at the d—day celebration. that would have been a big winner. that was planned beforehand. so he could have known. >> we don't know what bets this guy could, but i'm going to. i think he's got psychic powers. >> yeah, i think so too. that's that's that's my position.

absolutely nothing wrong. let's move on now to the daily star, steve, what's this about three loins on a shirt? this is, england stars have been given special permission to cover up their tackle. it's a footballing phrase, but also means the junk, if they want to use a naked spa in a hotel. and i think. if they want to use a naked spa in a hotel. and i think . yeah. i in a hotel. and i think. yeah. i never really understand the rules. like you have to be naked in a spa. isn't that like a sex crime? forcing someone to get their bits out? i actually don't understand the story. so there's a certain hotel where you have to be germany. >> they love getting naked. >> they love getting naked. >> is it in germany? >> is it in germany? >> germany? they get nude. dodi >> germany? they get nude. dodi >> and so that's the law, is it? >> and so that's the law, is it? >> well, it's like the cultural norms. >> it's like they're saying because you're foreigners, because you're foreigners, because you're foreigners, because you're english, you can cover up. yes. and because you're famous footballers. >> maybe i don't understand the three loins because the three of them or three lions, i get that. but why? but like , i don't know, but why? but like, i don't know, maybe there's three of them with loins. do you guys go nude in these circumstances? >> i don't go. i mean, i don't go to things like this, a spa or something. but i suppose if i was in a country where that was the norm, i would feel it was racist. not to, you know, do what they normally do. right.

get your eyes away from my junk. yourjunk looking eye weird your junk looking eye weird person. i mean, i don't like that you like this word so much, you said. well, i'm trying to find a broadcastable phrase for penis and loin. did it? don't say the loins. fine. loin is fine. >> loins. loins. >> loins. loins. >> loins. loins. >> loin is fine. >> loin is fine. >> you might think word loin. si king. no, it's a steak, isn't it? you know, don't look. don't look at my meat. actually, no, that would work. oh, i'm going to put an end to this anyway, we have dealt with the front pages, but look, coming up, got human rights, tv hardships and leaflet gate. see you

welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at thursday's newspapers. i'm andrew doyle. i'm still joined by q ball, josh howie and egghead. steve n allen . now, let's kick off with thursday's mirror. the green party have a manifesto out. i hope it's on recycled paper. yeah yeah. because they you know, that's what they do. >> the green recycle. yeah. >> the green recycle. yeah. >> recycle stuff. >> recycle stuff. >> make stuff in the bin. that's all they do. >> yeah, well now they do more. >> yeah, well now they do more. >> do they green party manifesto 2024 domestic flights ban and fat cat bonuses clamp down. >> key points there's a lot to go on here. and you know the crazy thing. not all of it is mental. that's good there. yes, of course they do. now. want shana of course they do. now. want sharia law to supersede uk law. >> yeah, but that's not so bad. >> yeah, but that's not so bad. >> their new members. >> their new members. >> you could have many wives. yes exactly. >> but then that's going to lead to more. thank you eric, but no,

that's not true. before ofcom calls me, but there are a few things that are going to be, quite good free bus travel for under eighteens. i could go along with that one. >> it's more under 18 on the bus. >> yeah, i don't know. i mean, you know, josh, what about this? where railways back into public ownership. i like that one. >> what about allowing 16 year olds to vote? although labour won't like that. well don't they don't like that one. i think i've been thinking about that recently. and people always say, if you're not paying tax, you shouldn't get to vote by the end of a term in government. those 16 year olds will be working and paying 16 year olds will be working and paying tax within the period that they're voting for. so actually, it makes more sense. yeah, i'm just not sure about thinking about it. >> stop giving blood. he's gonna. this is one i like though. you'll like this one. come on. scrap vat on cultural activities such as visiting museums and going to gigs. that's a great one. >> yeah, i think that's good. i think they also mentioned a scrap the first past the post system, which i'm all for. yeah, i think we do that proportional representation. let's make this fair, right? i think so 3 billion a year extra for nhs dentistry. you know what i'm going green all of a sudden. look at this. >> we've done it. i've convinced him. >> i mean there's some crazy

stuff about gender. oh, as you would expect. you know, let them have some crazy stuff because this it doesn't matter. you might as well read out and analyse the manifesto of the unabomber. none of this, none of this will end up being government policy. so that's the. they could win a landslide. well, we shouldn't say landslide because , you know, it's because, you know, it's a climate thing, but you know what i mean? like, you don't know. you do not know. anything could happen. >> no hiv by 2030, i don't know, wipe it out in the same way that they made rwanda a safe country just by voting for it, they're going to vote away hiv. >> is that how that could work? the to get rid of the two child cap for, child benefits? as long as you mean testing it? i'll have a look at that. you know, you know, when these smaller parties are writing their manifestos, whoever's writing them, do they sort of think, i mean, no, it's not going to happen, but you can just sense it in the way it's written. >> well, they write it to kind of push the conversation. they've even admit, like we're doing it to hold labour to account. no, mate, you ain't going to do anything. >> well, exactly. so there's something to it. it's like those people who run against the current sitting prime minister in their own constituency, so they can throw nasty questions his way at the hustings. yeah,

it's quite it's quite a legitimate approach, isn't it? yeah. why not? we're in a democracy. he could get two seats. ooh well, well don't knock it. it's more than we've got anyway . let's move on to the got anyway. let's move on to the mail next. josh, a tale of poverty and hardship to outdo even oliver twist. >> oh, poor old rishi. it's just it's never ending. rishi sunak , it's never ending. rishi sunak, sky tv just giving page is now open. so this is social media erupting with memes mocking the pm's attempt to explain how he's in touch with ordinary people. so this is the kind of the explanation point. after his leaving d—day, he went and did the interview . yes, he left the interview. yes, he left d—day for on itv , and one of the d—day for on itv, and one of the hardships that he had to sort of justify because they were like, look, you've got more money than the king. how do you know about people? it's like, no, you don't know about my background, because there were my parents had to scrimp and save for the 52 grand a year to the private school. i wanted sky tv. we didn't get sky tv and, and everybody's now taking the mickey out. >> i mean, is it a bit like that bit in the beckhams when, you know, posh spice is trying to say that she came from a really

working class background and david beckham says, now come on, be honest. yeah well, there's lots of things he said he didn't get. >> he didn't get a horse. >> he didn't get a horse. >> well, he didn't have a moat. >> well, he didn't have a moat. >> he didn't have a speedboat. yeah. >> i mean this is, is this the interview where he came back and said, you know. oh, sorry. yeah. something ran over that d—day thing ran over. i mean, things aren't going great for him, are they there? no, i love the idea that because recently ed davey been speaking about his childhood and that's an actual story of hardship, and it's probably been testing well, and rishi must have thought i've got one. here we go. well, in that case, he's going to start falling off paddleboards and tightropes. he's having a great ed davey is doing at the moment, which is a lovely time, isn't it? he really enjoys what's going on there. this these kind of fake. well this is what he has to do. it works because no one would have been speaking about the lib dems at all during this. but if you've got a clip of someone falling funny, you know you've done it deliberately, right? yeah, totally. >> but supposedly he's not like that. and like, he's actually quite a sort of stem ish, right? >> yeah, exactly. like a normal, bonng >> yeah, exactly. like a normal, boring lib dem type. so don't we need to get to know the real him? >> no, it's all a facade. it's like it's his on stage persona. >> yes. also, he had a tough

upbringing, but i think he might have had sky. so maybe we should stop complaining. >> you know what? in all fairness about the sky thing, i just want to say something. i my l, just want to say something. i my i, i come from a very privileged background and we genuinely got one of the first sky boxes. >> i'll bet you did in the whole country. >> yeah. and you know, i got to watch 21 jump street. yes. did you watch did you watch 21 jump? >> i've even heard of it. we did not even have channel five. >> lots of stuff that i got that that has increased, made me better. >> we didn't have a tv even. we just sat and watched a turnip in a box. >> i'm just saying, i just. i feel his pain and i try to think what my life would have been like without sky tv. you can afford a turnip in a box. >> it was a cardboard box. yeah, cardboard. now is it right? our own entertainment. the thing is, though, i think does anyone really care about how rich their politicians are? i mean, does it really matter? this is not about how rich he is. what? what is it then? how stupid is in answering a question? the point is, don't pretend if you are rishi, don't pretend if you are rishi, don't pretend that. oh, no. >> i know what it's like. >> i know what it's like. >> i know suffering. no, just say i had a really privileged background. i was so lucky to have the background that i've got, and i'm grateful for it. and then answer the rest. are

you suggesting honesty? it's crazy, i know. i don't understand this. do you remember when david cameron had a similar gaffe? he was asked about his wife and he said, oh, a lot of people think my wife was very blue blooded. she's actually really unconventional. she went to a day school that was his response. so no. well, they are not. we thought he was rich as well. those are the days, isn't it? not in touch at all anyway. okay, let's move on now to the guardian. and who's guarding our civil rights, this is met police using human rights laws to block trooping of the colour protest . trooping of the colour protest. oh, now, who wants to get out of the echr? so anti—monarchy campaign group republic accused the metropolitan police of seeking to use human rights legislation to stop their protest . is it a legislation to stop their protest. is it a human legislation to stop their protest . is it a human rights protest. is it a human rights because they say, look, yes, you've got a right to protest. yes. but what about the people who want to have a nice day out looking at some trooping the colour? i don't know if that's on the list of human rights, like the right to family, the right to, well, right to protest is up there as kind of a key. like to buy the right to buy a little union jack hat and go wave a flag and stuff that's in the magna carta. it's written down there. i'm not sure. i think, the, i, you know, i think

if you believe in the right to protest , you've got to like it protest, you've got to like it even when you don't like the courts. this dates back to you know, just before the coronation, the tories snuck this through just a couple of days because they wanted to stop those people protesting. there were only about five of them in the end anyway. but the point is, we have to preserve protest the right to i mean above, i mean, this is like a major liberty and i'm very nervous about any attempt. >> i mean, look, there is they are saying that they have the right to protest. they're just saying you can't do it in your sitting room. do it in your sitting room. do it in your sitting room, doing your sitting room, and you can protest all you want. you can do it in this protest away. >> i've got a cell over here for you. yeah. it's totally i just think, well, look, if they are going to do this and i agree with you that it's massive overreach and it's ridiculous interpretation of the law, then could they also like, take the rights of jews going into town on the weekend? >> also maybe because of those people protesting? yeah, i'm just saying if they're going to do that, would they mind helping us out a little? >> okay . to kerb a certain >> okay. to kerb a certain group's right to protest, then you'll say, and it's okay to kerb other groups and it affects everyone because the principle

is bigger than any one given group of people, apart from the pro—palestinian . well, that's pro—palestinian. well, that's just you, josh, you see. >> no, no, i mean, i agree with you. i'm all about the principle up till up until the hate marches. >> okay , let's move on to this >> okay, let's move on to this one. now, this is the mirror. now someone's getting a bit ahead of themselves. josh? what's this? yes. >> tory snubs sunak for farage in election leaflet as reform uk opponent is furious. >> it's disgusting. okay, you have to explain this. okay >> basically dame andrea jenkins, she's one of rishi sunak's fiercest, fiercest critics. and she's a tory. she tory. right. she put out this, leaflet because she's campaigning because and she's a tory. we won't say where it's from because then we'll have to say for every who else? all the other people. but she's got two photos of her and farage on it, and no photos of her. have we got a picture? look, there she is. so you don't even know that, do you know that it's a tory leaflet? >> i mean , it doesn't say tories >> i mean, it doesn't say tories on it. >> i mean, it uses blue and that's about it and that's it. so she's got these pictures of farage and then the gut. but you think that the person. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the reform guy is like really upset. >> she's not thinking like that.

she's just thinking i'm just going to put some photos of me and my celebrity mates and any celebrity mates she's got his. nigel. >> what about mr t? >> what about mr t? >> yeah, well, she hasn't got the mr t won mr t photo. she knows the prime minister. would you not think that photo is quite a famous, you know, which is bigger now, if she did have mr t, that would be a vote winner. >> yeah, i honestly think i tell you the most racist, racist thing that will get me cancelled. >> well, yeah, if you like, but i disown it. >> i have, i, met mr t. yeah. when? at my, eighth birthday party. yeah. that's how rich we were, right ? i know i party. yeah. that's how rich we were, right? i know i had mr t there. i have all my life i've met mr t, it was my eighth birthday party. i found the photo recently . it wasn't mr t, photo recently. it wasn't mr t, it was. >> what's worse about that is your parents fobbed you off with a fake mr t, a black man wearing jewellery. >> and my whole life i have been telling people how i met mr t. >> that's not racist. that's your parents being misleading because you're a child. >> my eight year old self was a disgusting, racist . disgusting, racist. >> he didn't even have sky. it was bsb as well back then. probably the fool. i feel family anyway, let's he did have a

mohican. he was. >> he was buff. >> he was buff. >> we are, we are was way we are halfway now but we have got to move on. we've got coming up le headscarves cowardly bans and misgendering on red see you -- see you in a moment for an

welcome back to headliners with me. andrew doyle. it's your

first look at thursday's newspapers. so, steve, let's kick off with the guardian. and a new sport at the olympics covering your head. yep. ioc urged to help overturn french headscarves banner olympics. so france has this rule for their athletes , not athletes from athletes, not athletes from other countries. they can't display religious symbols, which includes headscarves. yes. human rights groups say the prohibition has left muslim athletes feeling invisible . and athletes feeling invisible. and that's quite a world. invisiblized surely it's the opposite, isn't it? now we can see more of you. yeah, you've been visible. this whole article is the opposite. >> i would argue when it starts going about gender, racial stereotypes and gender stereotypes. >> well, this is what the great thing about this argument, the argument against wearing a headscarves is also the argument against the ban on headscarves. theidea against the ban on headscarves. the idea that it is in some way forcing women to stick to a dress code is an argument being made from both sides. here isn't the point, though. the whole point. i mean, the french tradition is about secularism. and so therefore, when we think about religious symbols, they would be they would be the same about wearing a crucifix or a yarmulke . yeah. right. exactly. yarmulke. yeah. right. exactly. so this isn't a specifically

targeted thing against muslim people. and surely a headscarf also slows you down. you're less streamlined. it might be more streamlined, maybe, depending on how bushy your hair is. >> that's a good point. >> that's a good point. >> yes. yeah, but then part of me also thinks telling people what they can wear on their head, if you like. i'm not in favour of religious anything, you know. but then you think, well, you're banning people wearing stuff on their head. look, it boils down to this. as long as they still have really sexist dress codes for women's volleyball, we'll all be all right . you're fine with that, right. you're fine with that, steve? >> that's interesting. i mean, it would be interesting to see someone wearing a hijab and then just like some crazy , like, just like some crazy, like, revealing clothing. >> that would be okay. then that would be all right. >> i don't know, that's kind of kinky. am i allowed to say that? >> well, i mean, it's your particular taste, josh. i mean, i'm not sure i know, i don't know, there's something about the dichotomy there that is quite interesting. but i think ultimately this is about fairness, isn't it? and, you know, they're applying this fairly to all of the sports people in the teams and indeed their team, though not to well, they can't impose it. i know the french want to rule the world, but their chance went with napoleon, didn't it? yeah they messed that up. he ended up in

saint helena, their own stupid fault. yeah, exactly. all right. we're going to move on to the daily mail next. and, josh, who knew that taking rights from women and medicalizing children could backfire? >> indeed, public support for transgender people's ability to change sex on their birth certificate collapses compared to recent years, major study finds. so what we're really talking about here is gender self—id. yes. and what's also happened over the last few years is that, the general public have actually cottoned on to two to what the trans rights supposedly means, which is an infringement on women's rights. yes. and also there's a number of there's a number of things, because i think a lot of people have thought that when we're talking about trans rights, they're thinking of old school transsexuals, people who go through those operations very difficult, very painful, very expensive operations, and they just want to get on with their lives and what it actually means is, is actually a lot of blokes who want to self id as women to get into their spaces. >> i mean, it's a different thing, isn't it? it is a different thing. >> and they've been deliberately conflated for this. now. people as it's got more and more pubuchyin as it's got more and more publicity in the culture wars

that supposedly don't exist, is that supposedly don't exist, is that people now understand there is a conflict of rights here, male rapists going into female jails and so on. so it's not that the public has got like transphobic as, it's just that the public now realise. and when you ever query someone like what trans rights are you talking about here. yes. no one can ever then quantify what you know. trans rights. trans people have the same rights as everybody else. >> and the other thing about this, steve, is that a lot of prominent trans rights activists, a lot of them who aren't even trans, by the way, what they call allies have been so vicious , cruel, violent in so vicious, cruel, violent in some cases sending threats of rape and death. and we can all see it because of social media and actually , that doesn't and actually, that doesn't persuade anyone, does it? no. if anything, it's raised awareness of the issue as well, which i think is probably moved the dial on these figures. and i think a lot of your work, andrew, for the last few years has been about raising this issue in the public's awareness. >> josh, i think your anger, your anger, if anything, put people off. >> but i think , i think this is >> but i think, i think this is mainly andrew's work. >> okay. he did write a books

and all that stuff. yeah. and he's got a tv show. >> you tweet though, don't you? >> you tweet though, don't you? >> i do tweet. you have tweeted very good tweeting. >> but i mean, it's not a surprise. and i do think this is a lesson for activists everywhere is that, you know, because we've seen this more and more from various factions. people are getting more aggressive. people are getting more threatening, and it doesn't work. yeah, it's the same with the eco. i mean, when you see them vandalising, actually vandalising monet paintings where there's no glass covering and all the rest, you know, people say no , we're not going people say no, we're not going to support your cause. we talked about this on i can't remember what this new story would have been, but months ago about how in the 80s, the gay rights movement was about awareness and acceptance. whereas this is not about acceptance, this is about you cannot say this, you mustn't do this. you're not allowed to do this. you're not allowed to do this. you're not allowed to do this . do this. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> no debate. the no debate thing was a complete mistake by stonewall, you know. and they did exactly that. it didn't used to be that. it used to about we're the same as you. we can come on board and all the rest of it using argument. shut up or we'll call the police or beat you up, which just doesn't doesn't resonate. no, it doesn't resonate. okay. we're going to move on now to the metro . so, move on now to the metro. so, steve, for a fantasy crime at a fantasy show, superm feels

terrible. after repeatedly misgendering emma darcy at house of the dragon premiere . it's of the dragon premiere. it's darcy, a real name because that sounds posh as hell. it does, isn't it? well i think in pride and prejudice. posh proper nouns. not the problem here. it's the pronouns . so nouns. not the problem here. it's the pronouns. so emma darcy started one of the main characters. i've never heard of him , have you watched house of him, have you watched house of the dragon? >> never heard of them or her. that works. you get yourself out that way. yeah, but she interviewed. i've not watched. i've watched the original house of dragons, game of thrones, the game of thrones. thrones. game of thrones is a game of thrones spin off. yes. she interviewed emma and then interviewed matt smith in the interview with matt smith, referred to emma as she. matt said, yeah, they are great, aren't they? and sue was like, yeah, but i'd be confused by that. if he starts saying they are great. i think he's talking about the dragons or something, because then he's talking about plural and they are also great. so why is but but, but this. so it was matt smith who had a go at so what you have here is a lesbian sue perkins as lesbian. >> yes. and you have a lesbian being chastised by a straight bloke, about another straight woman. right. essentially. >> did he chastise ?

>> did he chastise? >> did he chastise? >> well, he sort of was like, he just they they was it a bit sneaky? they are. the internet did more of the chastising . and did more of the chastising. and then afterwards and then sue perkins went on and give this, gave this grovel apology. oh, it was such a s star mistake . i had was such a s star mistake. i had lots of stuff going on and i wasn't as focused, but no excuses though, these things and ihappen excuses though, these things and i happen and i matter and i feel terrible. i'm a massive fan of their work. >> she's talking about a woman. of course she's going to say she. why is this a big deal? also, i'd say to the progressive left woke people, if you're going after sue perkins , you've going after sue perkins, you've got the wrong battle. and you had the they're not the people you should be hating. also sue surely spent most of the early 2000 being called mel by mistake. yeah, i'm sure i think i've done that. >> my first job, you know, working on light lunch. what as a. yeah system. >> you know everyone, john, i know with my job, that's my first job in tv back in the day with guess who i was my runner with guess who i was my runner with mr t, mr t no , the guy who hosts. >> not x factor and all that stuff. x factor, who hosts dermot o'leary .

stuff. x factor, who hosts dermot o'leary. he was a runner. we were running. yeah, yeah, we were running together. >> you were mates. >> you were mates. >> no , no, he he didn't like to >> no, no, he he didn't like to be far more successful. no. he was he's a very nice, charming guy anyway. but the point is sue, who's lovely person, says i'm sorry. and then the other person says, yeah, well, you should also apologise directly to them. she's like, oh, of course i well it's like, don't prostate yourself for them. and i'm there's a lot of debate within, the, the gender argument about whether you should refer referring to transgender people by their preferred like sex, like in terms of if they're trans women saying, calling them a she or whatever. but this, this for me is there are they them they them doesn't exist. it just doesn't exist. it's a it's an utterly false made up mythology. yeah. so i don't feel bad about ever. i'm not going to refer to anyone as they there isn't someone who's transitioned. >> no, no, no, this is a this is just a stupid identity because they've got short hair or they look slightly androgynous or whatever it is, and i don't care because it's totally made up and i will not go on with it in the tiniest iota . tiniest iota. >> i hate it so much. this is

the no. i mean, i hate the anger thing, the compelled speech thing. you know what i mean? >> you're absolutely right. and they then they would go, oh, what you hate they then. >> yeah, i hate the whole mythology, the nothingness of it. it's for people to think that they have a personality. >> fashion. it's a trend. it's like being a goth or something. that's exactly not. there's nothing innate about this non—binary nonsense, you know, let's be absolutely honest about it. and this is a woman. and by the way, she hasn't complained. it sounds like it's just people onune it sounds like it's just people online complaining. yeah, yeah, yeah. online complaining. yeah, yeah, yeah . anyway, let's move on, yeah. anyway, let's move on, what about josh is really angry. the anger. it's the anger. yeah. the anger. it's the anger. yeah. the anger. it's the anger. yeah. the anger. it's. it makes good tv. keep it up. anyway. the guardian. now, josh, what's what's this about musicians pulling out? >> you want to see angry are ehhen >> you want to see angry are either. good. come on, multiple bands pull out of download festival over barclays israel ties. let's see if, my head's going to stay on for this story. so this is, download festival is like a rock festival heavy metal. it's like. and it turns out that a bunch of people, a bunch of bands who are booked and just a bunch of massive cowards and wimps and stupid idiots. >> say what you think, josh ?

yeah. >> and, the pest , a yeah. >> and, the pest, a band called pest and speed and scowl called pest and speed and scowl called pest control . pest control. the pest control. pest control. the thing is, these festivals are actually quite, very woke . yes. actually quite, very woke. yes. i remember doing a gig there a couple of years ago, and i was shocked because actually, more gothy. yes, like a lot of sort of purple haired gothy types as opposed to like nana. >> so this isn't quite really heavy metal, is it? because heavy metal, is it? because heavy metal, is it? because heavy metal is all about being subversive. >> and we've seen this across. we also saw last year we saw, what some when we go matthew crosbie pulled a bunch of comics are pulled out of latitude recently for a similar thing. right. you know, just utter cowards . stupid. arguably siding cowards. stupid. arguably siding with a bunch of anti—semites in germany. bds, is made illegal as it's as a racist movement. so these guys just going along with it. barclays the reason is supposedly barclays like invests in it's so tenuous anyway. >> but they did this at the hay book festival and the edinburgh fringe book festival. like steve, for a calmer response to this, i mean, it is ridiculous , this, i mean, it is ridiculous, isn't it? when creative people are getting involved in politics and getting rid of corporate

sponsorship, which only affects the creatives? i mean, we're not going to have any book festivals now, are we? yeah, i think we need to understand that the arts need to understand that the arts need to understand that the arts need to suck all the money they can out of the big money corporate types, because that's where all the money is. how are you going to do things with that? unless you want it all funded by the state, which hasn't been good for the arts historically, let's put it that way. it won't work. and barclays make a point that actually they just show up on the paperwork because they are trading in stocks that their clients are requesting. so that's unless they are going to ban their clients from going to request certain companies that they invest to be invested in. they also haven't spoken about pepsi . also haven't spoken about pepsi. i'm loving this side of it because pepsi ended up buying sodastream, which then gives it an israeli link, which means now, finally, you stand a chance of going in a bar. and when someone says diet coke, please, and they go, oh, it's pepsi, right? they like no. oh, because no one cares to kick off what the bands are called pest control, speed, scowl and zulu . control, speed, scowl and zulu. why have i heard of none of these bands? i don't know who they are . there's many answers. they are. there's many answers. is it quite a niche sort of thing? this festival? have you

heard of many bands other than enya ? i mean, she was actually enya? i mean, she was actually in clannad before she went solo as enya. i don't think you disproven me right now. well, no, i mean, you were suggesting that enya is a band. i mean, any technically is a band because she works with, you know, her lyricist roma ryan and her producer, nick ryan, and they are kind of. >> let's get back on point. these bands are scum. i was quite happy with the enya chat. >> anyway, we're going to move on now to the telegraph. this shocking story of a police chief arresting criminals. it will never catch on, how anti—woke uk police chief turned around . police chief turned around. failing force in just three years. this is stephen watson , years. this is stephen watson, who inherited greater manchester police. it was a bit of a mess back then. he's turned it all around from me. he was handed it by andy burnham. so this is not a left right thing. and actually the telegraph whenever they write about him they'll use the word woke . and he himself uses word woke. and he himself uses the word woke a lot. but, you know, sort of fair because what if we just get rid of that for a second? what you've got is the story of a guy who's in charge of the police, who makes police do policing. the basics of policing. oh, if we could just let that be the message, then more people would be on board if

we don't put the w word in it. this makes so much sense. well, except why don't you chase your crimes? isn't it to do with the problem that a lot of policing they've been distracted by investigating mean tweets, dressing up in rainbow lanyards and dancing at pride? i mean, that kind of stuff is and has been described as woke and indeed the sensorial element of it, you know, sort of trying to clamp down on people's free speech. he was asked, wasn't he? would you ever take the knee for blm? and he said only to his wife. he said to god, the queen and my wife, i don't want to. i don't want to kink shame, but keep that to yourself. whatever bdsm weird stuff. >> he's quite vocal about this stuff. i mean, he's not he doesn't sort of. i don't want to say the word, but he, you know, he doesn't dance around it. he just goes straight for this stuff. >> he says it's kind of the point is, josh, it works like so. he has turned the, you know, the record of the arrests are up. >> they're doing much, much better because stop and searches have quadrupled to 46,000 a yeah have quadrupled to 46,000 a year. and from that crime is down 15, burglaries down 24 point. the point is there's a correlation between these two in london. stop and searches have gone down and knife crime has gone down and knife crime has

gone up. yes. so guess what? it turns out that they are connected . surprise, surprise. connected. surprise, surprise. >> yeah. but i don't think that people who are against stop and search will take that as a sufficient justification for it , sufficient justification for it, because they will say that too many young black individuals are targeted for stop and search. there's too much racial profiling going on there. steve is that a fair point? this is what i mean, that at the moment it's framed as a very negative argument. here's the things that we're against. this is the anti thing. and if you like any of those things you'll push against it. but if you can sell this as bafic it. but if you can sell this as basic policing, this is not a broken windows thing that it's compared to all the time. this is a stay in your lane thing. if you're the police you should be doing policing. people can go around and rainbow anything or dance anything but don't be the police while you're doing it. no, i think that's a very good point. okay, right. let's move on there. we've just got one more section to go and we've got whatsapp groups, lucky baby and sigma males all coming up. do not

welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's newspapers . and we're going to newspapers. and we're going to begin this section with the express and an exhausting statistic about social media. yeah brits are part of 83 group chats and speak to people online more than they do face to face families. 83. between all of them, the 83 groups per person , them, the 83 groups per person, them, the 83 groups per person, the whole country person. each group includes many people. oh i see, i don't believe that. no one's in 83 different group chats. they've done the study well before you go. it seems harmless, right? but the most common names for these groups

are holibobs, hen, huns and famalam. if you are, if you created a group like that, people hate you and you are on mute. >> shout out to my farm alarms. >> shout out to my farm alarms. >> this is basically an advert for vodafone, right? the vodafone paid for this research to look at how we stay connected, blah blah blah. i hate the sound of it so much. it's made me join giffgaff to hope for worse. signal quick side note i thought for that joke i'd google what's the worst network in the uk, according to which it's vodafone which ruins the joke but really ruins the money they spent on advertising. now josh , the thing about these now josh, the thing about these whatsapp groups is, you know, i make a point now. i just don't because i constantly see leaks from whatsapp groups. so i just never say anything on whatsapp that i wouldn't say to someone's face. you know, mum, i love you wouldn't write that in a whatsapp group. >> i mean, i know, well, i'm not in a whatsapp group with my mother. >> oh, okay. neither am i, actually. no, but for different reasons. >> but one with your mum, though i >> -- >> josh, i don't know what you're saying here, what do you make of this story, i was implying that i'm sleeping with your mother. >> that's what i mean. we got the joke .

the joke. >> okay, okay. >> okay, okay. >> i didn't think it was very good. or likely i think that people are getting. really? my mother was a nun, so she has standards . oh, goodness me. standards. oh, goodness me. >> so, i think that that sounds about right . >> so, i think that that sounds about right. 83 i would >> so, i think that that sounds about right . 83 i would say >> so, i think that that sounds about right. 83 i would say i'm probably in more. i have if you've i don't know if anyone's heard this, but i have a bunch of kids and i only go on about them every day. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> and now i am not only in the whatsapp groups for each year that they're in, but i'm in the old whatsapp groups of when they've left primary schools. >> the schools have whatsapp groups, the school have whatsapp. >> so we've got like year one, year six. but the problem is i'm like in year six. but for like when the kid had left two years ago. >> so i'm in two whatsapp you have like parents whatsapp groups where you off the kids because that's what i did. >> yeah, well they are quite funny actually, because we've had like some build whatsapp group battles and someone will be like, you know , someone like, be like, you know, someone like, oh, parents who are playing, letting their kids play whatsapp are playing fortnite. and then it sort of then there was a

split off into two parent groups that was like the whatsapp parent group . and then there was parent group. and then there was the non whatsapp and all bitching about each other. it was really fun. i'm still shocked that we found out that you're in whatsapp groups for school years. >> that your kids aren't in leave. i mean, look at this. >> no no no no. but no no. you want other people's kids. not group of kids. so like, even though those kids aren't in the school anymore, all the parents were kind of mates. >> i just think it's a minefield. anyway, we're going to move on now to the daily mail. it turns out the snowflakes may have a point. >> yeah, how baby boomers really did have it easier and why it's only getting harder for gen z to get on the housing ladder and this is a renowned historian, doctor eliza filby, who i've never heard of before, but she's renowned. she specialises in generational evolution, which is a new. >> what does that mean? does that mean that people get better as they as they think it means? >> she's gen z coming up with something like that. >> bigging herself up. yeah, and but the baby boomers were better, weren't they? >> baby boomers? >> baby boomers? >> there's this golden generation. if you were born in 1946. yes. you, you were born after the war? yes. you, you

sort of were a child as rationing was ending. yes. then you were a teenager in the 60s and you had contraception. you had the pill. so you were a teenager when the pill happened. then you had , you were able to then you had, you were able to buy houses for houses for nothing. yeah so you buy houses for nothing. you had you have full, pension schemes and all of that stuff. yes. and you weren't like, so basically 1946 was a golden year and this kind of just lays into that more. and we probably have a lot of baby boomers who watch this. and every generation thinks that they've got it tough. yes. and i'm not saying that there weren't tough bits to it, but essentially , if you were able to essentially, if you were able to buy your house before the financial crisis of 2008, you're kind of quids in. yeah. >> i mean , it is true, isn't it, >> i mean, it is true, isn't it, steve, that the younger generation, the youngest generation, the youngest generation, are going to really struggle to get on the property market? yes. if you look at the multipliers that you need from the average salary to the average price of a house that's gone up from like three times to 11 times or some big thing every time we talk about this, by the way, i always get tweets from it's probably the same pensioner who tells me off because i say, oh, pensioners are doing really well these days. they're the

richest pensioners ever. have. they just tweet, tweet me saying how poor they are. >> well, they can afford smartphone. >> they've got sky, they've misunderstood what averages are just because they're poor doesn't mean that on average that generation is doing really well now. they won't attack you for patronising them in that way. but the one thing i do feel sorry for that generation for is they're the first generation that don't have the right to just expect respect. yes. before then, they've all gone through wars, all the generations that we can think of fought in a war a baby boomer never did. and now they must be getting old thinking, where's all the respect that i wanted? >> if you read atomised know by michelle that french writer, but the gist of it was is that they created the baby boomers, the youth generation. so there was this suddenly elderly people were respected and then they made it because then it became about consumerism and advertisers and whatnot. so then the focus went all to the youth , the focus went all to the youth, even though they hadn't earned it. they've enjoyed that through their whole life. now they're old and they go, well, wait a minute, why aren't you paying attention to me anymore? >> advertisers, they're just entitled. you've just slagged off a whole generation. okay. well, sorry. hi, guys. they will tweet at all, they tweet a lot.

and they're up. they're up right now. we are now moving on to the guardian. what is this about sigma males? i don't know what that means. sigma. the headline is the sad, stupid rise of sigma male. how toxic masculinity took over social media. you're still using that phrase toxic? >> i already hate the i hate this story straight out of the traps because you're doing the wrong thing straight away. >> we as men, we've grown up being told there's something fundamentally wrong with you, and their headline is that you're also sad and stupid as well . if you've been told that well. if you've been told that everything about you is toxic, you're not, respond well. we know alpha males are. they are like myself, the best of the men . of course we know what beta males are. josh over here, from the sentence. >> what's after beta? how did you. >> how did you get your wife? i beat her, i think that's is that how it works? i'm not sure, simon mayall. it's a bit edgy. edgy for you? >> only on the bottom . >> only on the bottom. >> only on the bottom. >> it's a greek joke, isn't it, sigma male, the lone wolf. yes your independent thinker makes your independent thinker makes your own rules. confident. maybe i am one of these. your day begins at 430 with a cold shower followed by a workout. i'm not one of these, newspaper shorthand. they always say that these are the people who follow andrew tate . and this is the

andrew tate. and this is the problem. if you say all masculinity is toxic , you drive masculinity is toxic, you drive men into the arms of someone who says being toxic is good, whereas what you want is someone who points out, andrew tate's got such big arms. we're not final thought from the toxic male, josh. >> well, the reason why it's become very popularised is as a father of teenage children is they all use it, but they use it very much in an ironic fashion. so they're constantly going like, oh, you're so sigma sigma. and they're saying it to me and now i know, now i know kids what sigma means, so stop saying it to me like they're using greek and you know all of that. >> okay, let's move on now because that's all we've got time for. but before we end, let's have another quick look at thursday's front pages. so the daily mail is leading with a tory wipe—out risks. one party socialist state. the times has got growth and prosperity. our priority , he says. starmer the priority, he says. starmer the telegraph is running with starmer, paves the way for tax rises. the guardian is leading with sunak. i'd bet on election date before announced moment, and the i news has got labour set to announce big cuts to pubuc set to announce big cuts to public services in the uk. and finally, the daily star. three loins on a shirt. that's all

we've got time for. loins on a shirt. that's all we've got time for . thanks to we've got time for. thanks to josh and steve. i'll be back tomorrow at 11 with leo kearse. and if you're watching the 5 am. repeat stick around because a.m. repeat stick around because now it's time for breakfast. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news evening. weather on. gb news evening. >> time for your latest weather from the met office here on gb news. for many of us, it's been a fine day today. tomorrow a very different story, a cold start and then it'll turn wet . start and then it'll turn wet. and particularly in the west, very windy. here's the reason why . a couple of sets of weather why. a couple of sets of weather fronts coming in from the atlantic ahead of that, we've had a ridge of high pressure, which, as i said, has brought most of us a fine day. still 1 or 2 showers over northeast scotland and eastern england, but they are fading away. and generally it's going to be a dry night with some lengthy clear spells. and that's why it's going to turn chilly temperatures well down into single digits , even in towns and single digits, even in towns and cities and some rural spots. even lower. so yes, another pretty fresh start tomorrow.

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