today, reaffirming his manifesto today, reaffirming his commitment to no rises to income tax or national insurance. the labour leader put economic growth and stability at the core of his party's plan, promising to end what he called a desperate era of gestures and gimmicks . desperate era of gestures and gimmicks. back on the campaign trail in crewe, he rejected rishi sunak suggestion of higher taxes. >> it is a manifesto that rejects fundamentally the proposition that britain can't do better than this, that we have to go on in the way we've been going on in the last 14 years. it is a rejection of that . britain can do better, britain will do better . and with our will do better. and with our manifesto and a mandate for a labour government , we will take labour government, we will take our country forward and that will be felt in every community across the country . across the country. >> the liberal democrats described labour's manifesto as a gamble on economic growth that fails to set out how wealth will be shared more evenly. sir ed davey joined his party's

candidate for tunbridge wells, mike martin, at an obstacle course this afternoon. he said that trickle down economics will not fix broken britain, suggesting £9 billion of investment to rescue our nhs. >> and we're talking about investment to help the poorest investment to help the poorest in our society. and we want to make sure that we've got the capital investment in social homes in the fight against climate change and making sure the nature crisis is dealt with. so we have an ambitious policy package in the liberal democrats. and on top of that, we're the only party saying we need to reform our politics. >> in other news, all g7 countries have agreed to continue funding a loan package for ukraine worth nearly £40 billion as european commission president ursula von der leyen said the funds would be backed by proceeds from immobilised russian sea assets. prime minister rishi sunak held a bilateral meeting with ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy today. mr sunak has called the

funding package game changing. us president joe biden and vladimir zelenskyy have signed a ten year bilateral security agreement aimed at bolstering ukraine's defence against russian invaders . russian invaders. >> collectively, this is a powerful set of actions and will create a stronger foundation for ukraine's success. in two and a half years ago, putin unleashed a brutal war in ukraine and spent a horrifying. a deal for the ukrainian people. they're so brave and incredible. it also been a for test the world. would we stand with ukraine? would we stand for sovereignty, freedom and against tyranny? the united states, the g7 and countries around the world have consistently answered the question by saying, yes, we will. we will say it again, yes, again and again and again. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts .

to gb news. com slash alerts. >> okay welcome along. heck of a lot to go out tonight. the labour party launched its manifesto today. sir keir starmer barely had time to get through the first page of that document when this happened. my generation is being let down by the labour party and this manifesto. >> who say that you're offering change, but it's the same old tory policies . tory policies. >> we need better. >> we need better. >> the climate can't wait. the climate can't wait. we need a green new deal now . green new deal now. >> yeah, we gave up on being a party of protest five years ago. we want to be a party of power. >> everybody who actually pays tax was worried about how much labour would want to wrestle from your pockets. >> it's been very, very clear. particular in relation to working people. no increase in income tax , no increase in income tax, no increase in national insurance and no increase in vat . absolutely. increase in vat. absolutely. clearly set out in this manifesto . manifesto. >> well, what's also clear is that there appears to be net tax

rises of £8.6 billion. that means tax as a share of gdp will be 37.4% in 2028 to 29, the highest in history. we better hope those non—doms stick around, haven't we? or anyone with any money at all? i must say, i think there has been what appears to be a typical dose of left wing bias in the establishment broadcast media so far this campaign. last night mr starmer forgot where he was confusing grimsby with hull, was so impressed and you know, when i saw those apprentices here in hull who had skilled jobs that they were proud of doing with the. yeah, i mean this might help him. hull is a different part of the country entirely. it's in a different county actually. the uk's longest single span suspension bridge is between the two of those areas there. and that got zero traction in the media last night. meanwhile itv managed to drag ed davey away from pratting around on some kind of assault course to get a midlife crisis

makeover to turn down the there you go. >> he's giving him blue steel, and then if you want to come on and then if you want to come on and suck in your cheekbone , do and suck in your cheekbone, do it. let's do it. clench your buttocks . no summer outfit is buttocks. no summer outfit is complete without a pair of sunglasses . yeah. cool, dad. sunglasses. yeah. cool, dad. cool sunglasses. yeah. cool, dad. cool, dad. and also, look herd. yeah. amazing. now that is the perfect summer look . perfect summer look. >> and do you remember when channel 4 decided to get mr starmer on sunday brunch? i think it was to do a puff piece cooking a tandoori salmon. >> right. let's put it. cooking a tandoori salmon. >> right. let's put it . on. it >> right. let's put it. on. it looks good. oh, i've broken that one. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> what do you think? did you enjoy it? yeah. >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> really good. good. yeah. good >> really good. good. yeah. good >> i mean, i can only assume that ofcom are all over this, like a rash of itv and channel 4 ianed like a rash of itv and channel 4 invited rishi sunak and nigel farage to cook a tandoori salmon or prance around dressed like a

divorce supply teacher. here's how farage was treated by the press when he had a milkshake thrown over him. >> not the first time, and i think quite a humbling moment for nigel farage. he was here in clacton to launch his local campaign . campaign. >> well, now we're hearing that apparently the bbc have also biffed nigel farage from a debate, instead preferring to platform the snp . i mean, i'm platform the snp. i mean, i'm sorry, but that's absolutely insane and appears to be an attempt to silence him, doesn't it? especially in light of the polling data, which i will come on to. and we all know how itv stitched rishi sunak up by releasing this pre—interview footage. >> prime minister. gosh, hello. good to see you . very nice to good to see you. very nice to see you. sorry to have kept you. no, not at all. i know you've beenin no, not at all. i know you've been in normandy. yeah. it will just ran out. there was, of course, incredible , but it just course, incredible, but it just ran over everything. i'm sure it was. so apologies for keeping you. no, not at all. i'm sure it was a powerful trip. i mean, so pertinent as well this year, you know, considering what's happenedin know, considering what's happened in ukraine, which i haven't seen president biden's remarks. but, i mean, that's

kind of the echo. i think what you said, did you get to meet any of the veterans or were you. oh, no. no, of course not. to do the ceremonial lots over yesterday and today. yeah, i've already spoken to almost everyone that was there. i hope. >> i mean, of course rishi sunak walked into that by actually leaving d—day early to be interviewed by the bloke who won awards for going berserk about some cake during lockdown. so what do you think ? is there what do you think? is there a left wing bias in the media that is clear to see at this election? let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. we've got daily telegraph columnist allison pearson. i am joined by conservative peer lord shawn bailey, and i've also got the wonderful journalist and broadcaster zoe grunwald. allison, i'll start with you , allison, i'll start with you, look, do you think that there is a left wing bias in establishment media? we're seeing those kind of puff pieces of sir davey not being asked anything about the post office scandelous. they're being asked to clench his buttocks while he performs a fashion show. >> i'm waiting for ed to be bungee jumping from big ben. it's got to come, hasn't it? look, patrick, of course there's

a left wing bias. i mean, in the media. does no one remember the night of the brexit result when they all looked like their dog had died? you know, i mean, yeah, of course there is. and what we saw in fact last friday in the bbc debate, which is a similar to the debate that's going on tonight , seven people, going on tonight, seven people, every time nigel farage spoke, he spoke extremely cogently, made brilliant points. not not a matter of applause in the audience. the camera .kept cutting to some bloke who was scowling or rolling his eyes. it was absolutely blatant. and we do see that at the whole time. and you just saw a clip of sky when farage again was assaulted, but you know, someone threw a milkshake at him and apparently this was humbling. it was it was a criminal assault . if that had a criminal assault. if that had happened to keir starmer or angela rayner , it would all have angela rayner, it would all have been, you know, misogyny, racism, god knows what. so yes. so yes, there is there is a, you know, tremendous . and we've got know, tremendous. and we've got this debate you mentioned next week , which is going to be

week, which is going to be starmer sunak that snp guy, the snp is going to be wiped out. i don't know why they're having him on and the lib dems, who are trailing reform by a at least 5 or 6 points. and tonight obviously reform has overtaken the conservatives. so nigel farage has every right. and he said to me this week he wanted to gatecrash that debate. >> right. well on that note, let's just let's just introduce the poll, shall we? in case you've not seen it yet. so labour 37, the tories down to 18 and reform up on 19. that is what nigel is calling the inflection point. he's now saying that actually. and i'll put this to you, sean, that it's, it's a, it's a vote. it's a vote for the conservatives that would make a labour government more likely. you might as well just go out and vote for reform . yeah. vote for reform. yeah. >> thank you for coming to me first. i really appreciate that. so look, if this poll is true, we are devastated . let's be we are devastated. let's be clear. and it's funny, when i speak to activists, they're loyal to the party. they want to campaign for the party, much like i have been doing. but

there is some warm feeling towards nigel, which is which is a trouble for rishi. and i think what he'll need to do is make sure that he he responds to that because the idea that you swing to the right or the left all that's nonsense. these are ordinary people who want speaking to in straight, plain sense. and i think that's nigel school and rishi could take a leaf out of that book. i still think i'm dubious about that poll. i'll accept that reform are going gangbusters, but i'm dubious about that poll . but all dubious about that poll. but all this means is that rishi should really focus in. but let's be clear. you still, if you don't vote conservative, you will end up with labour. that's the reality. >> shouldn't be dubious about the poll because if you strip out london and scotland, reform are ahead in every region and all every age group over 40. >> so i'll just bring you into this. i know we're trying to throw an umbrella over two different topics here, but when it comes to the media side of it, we quite, quite famously here @gbnews got in a little bit of strife because we had a people's forum with rishi sunak. it was offered up to labour. we'll have to wait and see if they decide to take that up in

they decide to take that up in the next three weeks or so. i can't help but wonder whether or not, you know, sunday brunch or whatever that was this morning have offered the likes of sunak and farage the opportunity to prance around looking like a geography teacher. >> well, i think if rishi sunak wanted to go on sunday breakfast or whatever it is and make tandoori salmon, they'd absolutely welcome him with open arms. so there's two things going on here. the first is that he's prime minister, so if he was spending two hours on a sunday morning cooking salmon, i think a lot of people would be asking, don't you have better things to do with your time, like running the country? the other is that this might be a case of sunak not having media advisers who are pushing for this kind of thing with ed davey. he's not going to be, he could be leader of the opposition. he could be leader of the opposition. but he's not going to be prime minister at the minute. he's trying to build his profile. can you believe? i mean, a lot of people in the country don't know who ed davey is. a lot of people know nigel farage more than they know there should be. >> can i just can i just say something? i have to disagree vehemently because they're all candidates in an election and an election is a textbook exercise where you assume all of the candidates could be the prime minister. tandoori salmon. no,

no, no. and i'm sorry. all the election, all of the candidates could be the prime minister should be looked at equally unless they offered that to everybody . somebody needs to everybody. somebody needs to have a look. >> can you imagine? can you can you imagine to be fair, if we had rishi sunak on here cooking a tandoori salmon , they'd be a tandoori salmon, they'd be outraged, wouldn't there? people will be. people will be reporting this left, right and centre. why haven't you got ed davey on cooking a stroganoff or something? well, why don't we have them all here cooking? >> you can line up some hobs on the side and you can get them all cooking. >> i would love that our health and safety officer would not. sadly allison, look, just just on you on this one. now, just focusing directly on the nigel farage reform party overtake of the tories in the polls. how significant a moment is this? >> well, the tories are in freefall, it's you know, rishi is barely at the controls, but they're heading for the mountain, it's been absolutely clear to me, as i've said on the show before, for many, many months, that the tory base has deserted the conservatives in disgust and there are millions of them who they hoped they could persuade back during this three weeks. and they're showing not only are they showing no sign of being wooed back, they are now moving over in great

numbers to reform. well, it is remarkable. >> we do have to wait and see how many seats that actually garners reform. but of course, their big shtick is, well, look, we want to be the opposition for, you know, the next five years or however long it lasts. and i suppose if they do end up with something like 19% of the vote, they've got a case for that. but what will actually happen on july the 4th? that is the one poll that matters, isn't it? but make sure that you tune in on monday evening because at 9 pm. we have got a very special patrick christys tonight vote 2024 special. well, we will have a live studio audience and lots of political big hitters like former chancellor kwasi kwarteng. so you can also be a part of that audience as well . part of that audience as well. so go to gbnews.com to join us, and i'll be giving you a little bit more detail on all of that. so make sure you stay tuned. it'll be a good one. but now it isfime it'll be a good one. but now it is time for the great british giveaway! yes, your chance to make this summer really special with more than £16,000 worth of pnzes with more than £16,000 worth of prizes to be won. that's £15,000

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yamauchi goes head to head with charity runner glenn frank. i'm reliably informed that these two have history.

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up, i do speak tonight. coming up, i do speak to a family seeking for justice their murdered daughter. after her killer was released . but her killer was released. but first, is it right that trans swimmer lia thomas has been banned from competing against

women at the olympics? it's time for the head to head. so biological male lia thomas had a demand to compete against women in the paris olympics next month. and that now has been rejected thanks to a crucial lawsuit. thomas had asked the court of arbitration for sport to overturn a world aquatics ban on biological males competing against women after declaring it invalid and unlawful. but the cas , as it's known ruling, cas, as it's known ruling, concluded that thomas wasn't entitled to engage with eligibility to compete in the world aquatics competitions. thomas first rose to prominence after becoming the first transgender athlete to win the ncaa college title in 2022, beating three united states olympic silver medallists in the process. so is it right for biological male swimmers to be banned from competing against women at the olympics? well

let's go head to head on this. i am joined by former british olympian mara yamauchi and charity runner glenn frank. both of you. thank you very, very much, mara, i'll start with you. is this the right ruling? do you think ? think? >> yes, definitely. males should not compete in the female category in any sport at any level , males have massive level, males have massive physical advantages compared to females , it's therefore unfair females, it's therefore unfair and unsafe for females. and the female category is for females to enjoy fair and safe competition amongst ourselves. males do not belong in the female category under any circumstances, glenn, i'll ask you about this. now, do you think that that's fair enough that males have no place in female categories ? female categories? >> well, obviously, because, their biological males. but when you're a transgender person and i'm looking at the story again about, oh, she should have started transitioning before she was 12. >> and let me tell you, now that a 12 year old cannot make that

decision because they haven't even got the right to vote. >> and also, if she, a 12 year old, says to their parents, i want to be an elite athlete one day. can i have a transition, start transitioning now and have surgery. so obviously it's a bit silly. and i do agree, with mara, that there's no ruling yet to include transgender athletes. i know. well, paralympics is starting, and i've seen their statement that they're thinking about including transgender athletes because, on my view, what happened to me, again, there's no category for, for me, there's no category for, for me, there's other or non—binary just just for clarity . just for clarity. >> just for clarity. if you don't. can i just cut in here just because we are also on on radio as well? glenn. so i think it's important just so we so we get to know each other a bit better as well that you are biological man who competes against women in charity runs right. is that right ? is that right. is that right? is that would that be fair? >> compete against women, competing in the charity event? i'm not an elite runner. and let me tell you now that my

testosterone levels are very low, probably lower than some of the elite women who have actually, you know, i'm watching the euro open championships, the diamond. i'm a personal trainer. i admire all athletes and i agree with and i support biological men and women. but the thing is, we need to have of four categories male, female, transgender , male, female. but transgender, male, female. but we win our own accolades. we're not competing against another biological. >> i'll come back. i'll come back to you. mari. yeah. go on. >> patrick, i need to correct glenn on two things there. one is he said, i agree with notpla about there's no ruling. >> right, mara? that's right. already >> okay, okay. right. both of you stop. both of you stop , you stop. both of you stop, stop, stop my life. right, nick, i'm going to ask you to stop. i'm going to ask you to stop. i'm really sorry about this, but otherwise. otherwise, we're going to have to just knock the whole thing on the head, so that's fine. mara. one at a time, glenn glenn said glenn is a man. >> glenn said, i agree with mara that there's been no ruling. >> right. mara right. >> right. mara right. >> well, aquatic created world

aquatic spent a year creating an open category for transgender swimmers. they had no takers . swimmers. they had no takers. the second thing i want, because not many people compete against female athletes. >> sorry. can we let maurice begin? then i'll promise you, i will go straight back to you. as soon as mara is finished, i will go straight back to you. okay? all right. go on. mara. okay. >> glenn said he doesn't compete against female athletes. this is against female athletes. this is a complete lie, glenn has competed three times in the london marathon. in the female category, and in the tokyo marathon in the female category . marathon in the female category. last year, all three times in the london marathon was against uk athletics rules. >> no, it's not okay. >> no, it's not okay. >> glenn is now your right. glenn is now your your turn mara. >> it's not actually. and my name is glenn. >> it is against the rules. >> it is against the rules. >> please. please have, you know , he has a full uk athletics license , right? license, right? >> mara? >> mara? >> mara, stop and let me tell you now, the ceo of london said to me that i'm a charity run. i can enter under any, category.

i'm not in the master race. >> the master race falls under uk athletics license. >> okay, i'm going to ask. i'm gonna i'm gonna let's let's let's get it off. let's get it off our our personal, topics now which, which obviously is, is a variety of different roles. let's try to just zone in a bit on the on the issue here, which would be a biological male competing against women in in the olympics. >> actually you're not listening. that's not, official yet that we have to have permission as lgbtq, community yet again, we have to get permission to be humans. but i'm just saying that why can't we have four categories male, female, transgender, male , female. >> okay, mara, would you be up for that ? for that? >> yeah. this is just incoherent gibberish from glenn. well he's already provided a third open category. they have no stop. >> and i'm piers morgan, because i'll tell you now, you didn't get my consent . get my consent. >> okay. i'm not actually quite sure what that's about, but. but sorry , mara, why would it be?

sorry, mara, why would it be? why would it be incoherent gibberish? mara. for category. i suppose that wouldn't affect. that wouldn't affect biological women like you, mara, would it? if we had an olympics, a trans olympics . olympics. >> what i'm saying is incoherent gibberish is he's calling for extra categories. world athletics , world aquatics sorry, athletics, world aquatics sorry, have already provided a third category for transgender swimmers. they had no takers for it. this proves there's not many of them. and william thomas only non—binary to let you know, i answered under non—binary just to keep you happy. >> and there's only 91 athletes out of 25,000. there's not many people that are. can i ask, could i? >> the london marathon this year you run in the female category , right? >> i'm just going to cut in now because there's another issue at play because there's another issue at play here okay. there's another issue. me there's another issue at play here. there's another issue at play here, which is not actually just about the competition itself and the times that people set. it's also what goes on around that. and,

clearly when you take part in sporting events, alongside women, would you then use the women's changing rooms as well? and do you think it would be okay for leah thomas to use those women's changing rooms? because they could for some people, that that's an issue so naive. >> why are you so naive? obviously, i use the women's changing area because i'm. i haven't got a penis. do you understand? how can i go into the men's changing area? because i might get beaten up. i am a woman . i've transgender woman. woman. i've transgender woman. should i say? you know what i mean? i don't offend, i don't i i'm not out to hate anybody. i don't hate you, myra. i educate, i don't hate it. okay but the thing is, we need to be humans. let's all celebrate sports. i'll give you. >> i'll give you the word on on that. >> athletes that are beating the men, they beat men, right. you know what i mean? okay, so what are you gonna say about that? all right, what about bodybuilders? >> okay, let's put let's put a pin in that. now, glenn, are they not men? yeah, i think i think you made you've made a series of point. so, mara, can i just ask you just on that issue

because i don't know exactly what, leah thomas's situation is, if i could put it like that, but i know there were some concerns from other athletes raised about the fact that that they were in the women's changing rooms as well. there's a lot that goes on around sport. that's not just about the times that are being set itself, is there, mara? >> yeah, i would say concerned is a massive understatement. young female swimmers like riley gaines and paula scanlan had to change naked in the female changing rooms with leah william thomas. he had his full male genitals. this was a traumatising experience for them and a male. whether he's got male genitals or whether he's had surgery, is male , lives his had surgery, is male, lives his whole life male, will die male, does not belong under any circumstances in female changing rooms and toilets . rooms and toilets. >> okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> both of you don't know that he hadn't had gender surgery downstairs. but let me tell you now that it's irrelevant whether men have had surgery or not. >> they don't belong in the women's changing room

assignment. >> mara, let me finish. you won't even know that they were men because they look more women than you, so. and you also think that's a bit offensive, to say the least, that the women's woman is an adult human female, not a man, puts on woman. >> okay. >> okay. >> all right. look, thank you very, very much. thank you. that's that's that's that's we've it's run its course. but thank you very much both of you. and clearly not a lot of agreement there. i'm not sure we're likely to get it but i do appreciate you both coming on the former british. okay. this is a former british olympian mara yamauchi. their charity runner clinic for thank. right. coming up as the green party pledges to no longer detain illegal immigrants while over 80 migrants are due to be deported to rwanda, they've been released on bail. is this a dystopian vision into our future? director of the sanctuary foundation, doctor chris skudder , attempts doctor chris skudder, attempts to defend the open border madness shortly and get ready to cringe. come on, 4th of july, don't forget to come one day to

go. >> we got 21 days to go . >> we got 21 days to go. >> we got 21 days to go. >> decline. okay, but next, the family of sabina rizvi, a woman gunned down in the street in a contract killing gone wrong, demand justice is her killer is freed early

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, a killer who has refused to reveal the identities

of two men who helped him murder a young woman is back on the streets of britain . gb news can streets of britain. gb news can reveal that paul asbury's release has left his victim's family appalled, shocked and traumatised. he was jailed for life in 2004 with a minimum term of 20 years for murdering sabina rizvi , but his two accomplices rizvi, but his two accomplices remain unknown. he's refusing to give them up. sabina, who was 25, was shot in the head outside bexleyheath police station in south—east london in march 2003. astbury was also convicted of the attempted murder of her boyfriend, mark williams, a passenger in the car. a judge later described the murder as being akin to a contract killing. now, during an inquest into sabina's death, astbury and sabina said sabina sorry had got caught up in the middle of a plan to shoot williams, who was a convicted drug dealer. asbury refused to name two other men involved in that murder after claiming that one was dead and another was now living overseas

and that naming him would put his life in danger. well, i'm joined now by sabina's brother soniand joined now by sabina's brother soni and her mother , iffat, soni and her mother, iffat, thank you very much for joining us here. it's great to have you on the show. it's much appreciated . and would you mind appreciated. and would you mind just explaining to us? >> us? >> us? >> well, it's just explaining to us, please. really the trauma that your family's gone through and how it feels to know that that that murderer is, is out and about again, it's totally unjustified . unjustified. >> and i do think that, they have undermined the judge who sentenced him. because the judge's comments were that he has to serve a minimum of 20 years strict tariff right before he could actually submit a parole application. and, we are just totally devastated because, as you know, that i have been campaigning for the last 21

years to have sabina's inquest. right. inquest resumed because normally an inquest takes place within six months. for somebody who's convicted. but had inquest had never been, had taken place and it was closed under the table without even notifying us. so, whilst, in 20 19th february, i was able to achieve the inquest being resumed as article two. here we are. february 2019. right. the inquest has been resumed and, for ashbery was, approached as, to be an interest person to help the judge in the inquest. he refused. and soon after, right , inquest. he refused. and soon after, right, i'm inquest. he refused. and soon after, right , i'm notified by after, right, i'm notified by the national probation service that he has submitted an application, a application to be released in an open prison . i

released in an open prison. i was devastated, right. imagine. >> yes. yes it was devastating. >> yes. yes it was devastating. >> could i just ask on this? sorry to interrupt, but, do you think that there should be some form of law? maybe that if somebody who does kill people refuses to give up the names of their accomplices, that maybe they should never be allowed out. >> they should not be. there is already a law, right? and i mean, i'm sure you've heard of, helen's law. helen's law , came helen's law. helen's law, came about and it was , it received a about and it was, it received a royal assent. any prisoners who was withholding information in regard to going to the, victim's right there should not be released, but that actually only goes as far as, children and remains and, it but there is there is a clause in there. it does say if a prisoner is withholding information , they withholding information, they should not be released. right.

like i said, that when the parole application did , go in, parole application did, go in, i did challenge that. and i did, speak to marie. marie she is helen's mum, and she said to me, in fact, no, it cannot happen. you've got to sort of go down the route of, submitting this because marie was not able to, get the, the, the, the perpetrator detained into prison because the law was not there. i mean, robert burchfield, the ministry of justice for conservative, he actually supported marie and he initiated the, helen's law. and it received the royal assent in november 2020. right. so it was already in process . and, but already in process. and, but however, no matter what i was submitting in regarding to the challenge parties, right, everything was being ignored. i appealed as well. that was

ignored. and the law is there, i mean, the thing is, my personal first, first hand experience is there is so many things in place for victims family. right. the restoration program, which i signed on in 2005, never has taken place. i did, right in the beginning, said, i want to confront paul ashbury when he was convicted. never has taken. >> could i ask, could i could i just ask you now if it's possible and you're okay to do it, would you like to try to address paul asbury , you know, address paul asbury, you know, directly in this sense. now, if you if you if he was if he was here, what would you say to him ? here, what would you say to him? >> i would want him to, you know, disclose the name of the people, the, at one level he said that another level, he doesn't. i would want him to name those people . and he we did name those people. and he we did ask that, during the parole

hearing, and he said that he was concerned about his, safety. right. but there's one person he's stated that he he is not no more. he's died. right. so naming a person who's already died and in, you know, he's been buried, how can he be under threat from him? so why doesn't he mention him , you know, and, he mention him, you know, and, also , the thing is, there are so also, the thing is, there are so many things i cannot disclose because i have given a undertaking, in regard which i do believe is completely outrageous . right here is a outrageous. right here is a convict, right? he has been assessed and that should be made pubuc assessed and that should be made public because he is on licence . public because he is on licence. he has taken somebody's life. right. so why are they disclosing all everything about us with the victim's family? but everything in regarding to a person on licence who's been

convicted for murder is all secret . secret. >> yeah, no i can't. >> yeah. anybody know ? right. >> yeah. anybody know? right. >> yeah. anybody know? right. >> the public should know, right? he's a convict. he's a he's a life license. right? and, it doesn't protect the public by keeping, you know , all secrets. keeping, you know, all secrets. >> all too often. all too often. i mean , this is an. you know, i mean, this is an. you know, a really extraordinary case, isn't an extreme example of it, but all too often, i cover stories on this show where it seems as though the person who's got the most protection is actually the person who's committed the crime, as opposed to anybody else. look, we're going to have to end it there. but i would just really like to ask you as well, just to come back on. let's just try and keep hold of this because you're obviously not going to let this go. you've not going to let this go. you've not let it go for the last 21 years. and i would really like to, to just just try to follow this through a bit with you. so thank thank you very much for coming on tonight and spending so much time with the ayat nouri us. >> us. >> yeah. thank you for having us. and thank you for listening.

and, okay. >> anything we can do. all right. thank you very much. aslef rac there, thank you so much. now we've got the met police commander steven clayman, who has told us, firstly, our thoughts and sympathies are with miss rizvi's family. despite the passage of time, the loss of a loved one in such violent circumstances is devastating . circumstances is devastating. part of the evidence considered dunng part of the evidence considered during the inquest related to miss reeves's interactions with police in the lead up to her tragic death, and the coroner determined there was insufficient evidence to conclude any met officer had deliberately or inadvertently passed information to the assailants, or that the met knew or ought to have known there was a risk to her life. the details relating to any death following police contracts are rightly scrutinised . it is my sincere scrutinised. it is my sincere hope that the evidence heard dunng hope that the evidence heard during the inquest will bring clarity to the circumstances of the heartbreaking loss suffered by miss rosy's loved ones. i've also got a statement from the moj, which says the decision to release paul astbury was made by the independent parole board after a thorough risk assessment. he is now subject to probation supervision and strict

conditions for the rest of his life , and can only be recalled life, and can only be recalled to prison if he breaks them. right. coming up, we'll have exclusive reaction to the completely and utterly pointless seven way leaders debate as we cross live to get in amongst the spin room. >> plus, so when someone laughed last night, my dad would have turned in his grave. it was . turned in his grave. it was. >> i mean, keir starmer doesn't realise that we're laughing at him, does he? but i will show you keir starmers furious reaction to those last but next scores of rwanda migrants have been released on bail as our open border crisis worsens. but actually the greens want to just throw our borders open. go go head to with the director of the

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. still to come, i'll bnng tonight. still to come, i'll bring you our live reaction to itv's seven way election debate, which is due to finish in the next few minutes, so don't bother watching yet. i'm reliably informed it's rubbish anyway, but what we talk to you about will not be. so there we go anyway. first, the green party launched their election

manifesto yesterday with pledges to scrap the nukes , end to scrap the nukes, end immigration detention unless there is a public safety danger, give 16 year olds the vote, introduce a four day working week, legalise assisted dying and remove all oil and gas subsidies. and greens leader co—leader. i think it is. carla daniel made their party's position on immigration very clear in tonight's debate. >> i think it's shameful when some politicians scapegoat the people who become our neighbours, our friends, our colleagues to distract from their chronic underinvestment in pubuc their chronic underinvestment in public services. >> the solution isn't scapegoating or pulling up the drawbridge. the solution is investing in our community to make sure everyone has access to the services they need. >> okay, well, it's especially pertinent given the fact that yesterday, around 50 people who were scheduled to go to rwanda were scheduled to go to rwanda were just released on immigration bail. so it does appear as though they've

essentially just been waved through. i'm very pleased to say i'm joined now by the director of the sanctuary foundation, doctor krish kandiah . doctor doctor krish kandiah. doctor chris, is with us, i think. yes. any second. there we go. oh. good stuff. all right. thank you very much, look, under this policy, if a jihadi who was on an international wanted list got in a small boat, ditched their documents in the channel and landed in britain, they would be allowed freedom in britain before we'd had the chance to look at them, wouldn't they? i'm not sure he's there . not sure he's there. >> near me. >> near me. >> i'm here. i can hear you, but you are very still. sorry about this. go on, take it away. >> well, i want to say i thought you did a great job. in the previous interview, you showed great dignity and respect to the victims. mother and i know that you do that for ordinary people . you do that for ordinary people. and that's what we would say. we ought to offer that same dignity and respect to people that are arriving here fleeing war and terror , that we shouldn't lock terror, that we shouldn't lock them up, that we should listen to their case. we believe in the

idea that people are innocent until proven guilty. so why detain someone who may have a very valid reason problem? >> i suppose the problem, the problem with that is, is we'd also be offering kindness and compassion to ahmed ali, who stabbed an elderly man to death in hartlepool. despite travelling through 13 european countries. the badruddin brothers, who are part of a north—east grooming gang, ernesto elliott, who was taken off a deportation flight, killed someone with a machete. lee kuan yew and abdul ramzi stabbed a 21 year old man to death. abdul ezedithe year old man to death. abdul ezedi the clapham acid attacker. so you would be lumping everyone in with those, wouldn't you? >> i don't think that's fair, patrick, because the green was green statement was very clear . green statement was very clear. >> unless there was a clear we won't know about will we, because they'll ditch the documents. that's the point, isn't it? you wouldn't. it would be denying us the opportunity to find out, wouldn't it? >> well, if you have found someone to detain them, then you have enough time to be able to investigate their circumstance sources. so give them the chance. give them the chance to

prove themselves innocent. why? why detain them without even listening? that was part of the illegal migration bill that we weren't even going to listen to their asylum claim. we were going to close our ears to that. and then ship them off to rwanda without even listening to their claim. and then when they get to rwanda, they can never make a claim to be here. surely, patrick, if something terrible were to happen in the uk that we couldn't live safely here and you and i had to flee to somewhere else, i've got no one that i know in france , but i've that i know in france, but i've got lots of family that i know in malaysia, so i wouldn't go to the closest geographical country i'd go to where i had connections . connections. >> and would you ditch all your personal information and not tell anyone who you were en route, and maybe try your arm at 13 other european countries before you got there? you probably wouldn't, would you? because you'd be innocent. you'd be genuinely fleeing war. >> i think you could distinguish between those that have had their papers stolen from them by traffickers , or those that have traffickers, or those that have lost it. but you're right, traffickers, or those that have lost it. but you're right , there lost it. but you're right, there might be some that you might want to detain, and you could use appropriate filters to make

sure that you filtered out the right people . right people. >> what would those be? well, no. what would those be? yeah what are those filters? because presumably you're against things like dental checks or fingerprints . fingerprints. >> i'm not against dental checks or fingerprints, sure, but if someone's genuinely lost their papers, you have to find another way to identify them. i'm open to that. but if someone has had their papers stolen from them, that's very different. so for me, this is like using those old fishing nets where you actually catch the dolphins in the same time as you're catching tuna, and where, where do they live, though? >> because that's the other aspect to it, isn't it? if we don't detain them, then i mean, the green party formally. in 2015, natalie bennett became kind of a laughing stock. she couldn't answer how they were going to pay for housing. i mean , i wonder if we're back here again, aren't we? where would we house? all of these people? >> well, the conservative party has been spending £8 million a day keeping people in hotels . i day keeping people in hotels. i don't think that's appropriate. i was part of the homes for ukraine scheme. maybe you were as well. we welcomed three families to come and live with us. i know members of the public

that would be willing to welcome people into their women and children. >> by any chance . >> by any chance. >> by any chance. >> they were women and children, but also husband as well, who was medically sick. and so he was medically sick. and so he was allowed to come as well. so i think we have hosting programs that would take some of them. i think others would be happy to work given the opportunity . they work given the opportunity. they don't want to sponge off the state, but they're currently not allowed to work . and if you're allowed to work. and if you're not allowed to work, you don't have any other option except to take up the state's opportunity to live in a hotel. so i think there are cheaper, fairer, more humane ways that we could help people to live independently . people to live independently. >> all right, all right. fair enough. well, hey, look, people can make their own minds up and indeed they will do when they, when they turn up to vote. but that was the director and founder of the sanctuary foundation, doctor krish kandiah there. thank you very, very much. we contacted the home office earlier today. he told us that their position is that they are not unlawfully detaining people and will provide an ongoing commentary, would not provide an on going commentary on all of that. coming up. we will cross live to the spin room , bring you all the reaction and analysis after a seven way leadership debate , we'll get the leadership debate, we'll get the views of top ten top pollsters. our political editor,

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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight . christys tonight. >> i'm nigel farage, leader of reform uk. just before we came on air, we overtook the conservatives and the national opinion polls. we are now the opposition to labour. >> well, it's all kicked off. aren't they? completely pointless seven way leadership debate. >> you're promising tax cuts when you've already done that 1000 the economy. once you've already done that one five.

>> we'll take you live to the spin room, where we'll be joined by big hitters from all the major parties and of course, our political editor, christopher hope, on my panel tonight is the telegraph's allison pearson, tory peer lord bailey, and journalist and broadcaster zoe grunwald. oh, yes, i'm prepared to cringe. >> come on, 4th of july. don't forget to come in one. thanks. >> go . we got 21 days to go. >> go. we got 21 days to go. >> go. we got 21 days to go. >> it's all to play for this houn >> it's all to play for this hour. let's get stuck in. get ready britain. here we go. okay, so we have just had that seven way leadership debate, and we've compiled some key moments for you. >> nhs has two fundamental problems. one penny mentioned case loads up by 43. why? because we have an exploding population. all of our public services are under pressure

because the population has increased by 6 million since the conservatives came to power . conservatives came to power. it's impossible to keep up. >> okay, so yeah , just before >> okay, so yeah, just before they went to air on that debate, nigel farage's reform party overtook the conservatives by one point to become the party of opposition. then penny mordaunt claimed that the tories will bnng claimed that the tories will bring migration numbers down whatever the public think about the numbers, what they want from their government and their parliament is to control access of foreign nationals to the uk and we can ensure that each year the numbers come down and on our plans we are due to halve that number, halve migration by next summer. >> summer. >> with us you get a cap and a plan with labour. they have no cap, no number and no plan. okay there is an absolutely hilarious moment as well, which i'll show you later on where penny mordaunt says you can trust rishi sunak on immigration because of his record. >> nigel farage, and indeed the entire audience laughed. then

angela rayner, penny morden and daisy cooper came to blows over the economy and tax. >> you're promising tax cuts when you've already done that. £1 crashed the economy once. what you've already done that one 5 billion. we've made it absolutely working households when it comes to tax. >> when it comes to tax, the conservatives have made a very clear choice to increase taxes on working people, on struggling families. that's happened more and more times. you have raised tax to the highest level in almost 80 years. the liberal democrats, what liberal democrats, what liberal democrats have said is that we would not increase taxes on struggling families during the cost of living crisis, that we would look to the big banks or the big tech companies who can pay a the big tech companies who can pay a little bit more to fund our public services. i will well, i'm very pleased to say that i well, i'm very pleased to say that! can well, i'm very pleased to say that i can take you now to christopher hope, our political edhon christopher hope, our political editor, who is in the spin room for us. >> christopher, thank you very much. what have you got for us? who have you got for us? >> patrick? i've got with me, andrew mitchell. who's the one of the cabinet ministers and the spokesman for the tory party tonight, andrew mitchell.

quickly, your reaction. you're now third in the polls according to the times, is that a disaster for the tory party? >> no. well, the polls are all over the place and i this is actually my 11th general election, chris, you'll be amazed to hear. and i've seen polls that are so wrong during the campaigns and also on the ground. we're not getting this on the doorstep. i meet very few people who are actually going to vote reform, and i meet an enormous number of people who have not yet made up their minds. and i, i think they will only do that towards the end of the campaign. and the great thing about the next three weeks is we have time to dissect labour's proposals, because after july the 4th there will either be rishi sunak or keir starmer in number 10. >> those are the only two others in your party are warning about a labour supermajority. do you think you can overhaul that? >> well, as i say, i don't believe the polls on the ground. what we've got to do is to set out why the points we make in our manifesto are right, why labouris our manifesto are right, why labour is trying to say as little as possible to get into number 10 on july the 4th. we need to expose that and show that they have no plan for

immigration, and also that their tax policies will lead to britain being the highest taxed country we've had since 1945, when clement attlee was prime minister. >> why do people laugh at your party when penny mordaunt said the schools are world class , the schools are world class, which they are according to some measures, they all laugh at that statement. >> well, you know, in elections people do funny things. but the fact is she was right. you know, under the conservatives we have become one of the top of the tree when it comes to reading and writing and counting . well, and writing and counting. well, and writing and counting. well, and that's a tremendous achievement and a huge contrast to what has happened. for example, in scotland, where the figures have all gone in the opposite direction, nigel farage said that 1 in 30 people on the streets in britain today, walking around are have rioting in the past two years. >> that is surely an indictment of your party's immigration policy . policy. >> well, it's true that migration, legal immigration has been very high. we've had an enormous number of people coming from ukraine in coming from

afghanistan, who helped us in the fighting . they're coming the fighting. they're coming from hong kong. i mean, that is why they have been the figures are so high. which of those should we be turning back and not honour our duty to them? and also, the figures show that over the next year or so, there's going to be a huge reduction in migration. and that is because of the steps that we have taken. but it's also shows that the high migration immigration figures are because britain did its duty to ukrainians suffering from the war and russia's invasion , from people coming in invasion, from people coming in to hong kong, fleeing away from chinese oppression, and also others who we owed. >> so it will come down. you're saying there, aren't you ? saying there, aren't you? >> yes, absolutely. it will come down over the next year . that's down over the next year. that's what all the forecasters are saying. migration is very high. but the reason it's very high is because of the people britain quite rightly, was helping. we have always been a place where you can come and receive sanctuary, but not in volume, but the volume is caused by these crises, which i mentioned. but in terms of stopping illegal

migration, we have a plan . it is migration, we have a plan. it is to make sure that the flights take off to rwanda. the labour party has no plan at all. >> and quickly nigel farage talks about tax breaks for married couples. in the old days , your party was in favour of that kind of thing. why aren't you now? >> well, we are the only party you can trust on tax. we set out very clearly what our plans will be. labour's plans are all over the place. they would definitely make us the highest tax we've been since, as i said, the end of the second world war. and you know, there's an old saying in politics cats, miaow, dogs bark and labour puts up taxes. >> you're that certain that also the tories might lose this election quite seriously. are you sleeping well at night? >> well, i've been through so many elections that i know the right thing to do is to enjoy engaging with your constituents on on the ground , doing the on on the ground, doing the right thing and trusting that they will make the right decision on july the 4th. >> and you're sure they will, because you're so far behind . i because you're so far behind. i mean, can you you're like, you're four nil down. it's half

time in the football. >> i'm taking nothing for granted. i'm working flat out to win the support of my constituents. and i shall continue to do that till 10:00 on polling day. >> well, andrew mitchell, thank you. that's andrew mitchell there with a bullish statement from the tory spokesman here here in the spin room patrick obviously, christopher, thank you very very much. >> now we are going to be going back to that spin room with our political editor christopher hope, as he tries to grab various people who are all going to be telling us that their side won. but let's get the thoughts of my panel tonight is the daily telegraph columnist allison pearson, conservative peer lord bailey and journalist and broadcaster zoe grunwald. i'm just going to play a clip straight off the bat . we'll straight off the bat. we'll react to it, which is nigel farage standing up talking at this seven way leadership debate . let's just hear a bit from mr farage. >> i'm nigel farage, leader of reform uk. just before we came on air, we overtook the conservatives and the national opinion polls. we are now the opposition to labour. >> yeah. and penny mordaunt as

well was getting into a bit of a head to head with nigel about immigration. nigel was saying to her well look, hang on a minute, how on earth can anybody trust the conservatives? he thinks reform think that this is the immigration election. how do you think penny morden's response went down with the audience? i think we can show you, given that your 2010 manifesto, your 2015 manifesto, your 2017 manifesto said you'd reduced net migration to tens of thousands. >> your 2019 manifesto said immigration would massively reduce, and that net 4.3 million people have come into the country since that time. why on earth should anybody believe the fifth manifesto that promises cuts to net migration? >> because of the record of this prime minister? so we've had we've had enough. >> that's fine. i'm happy. >> that's fine. i'm happy. >> figures out today. >> figures out today. >> okay, alison, what do you make of those clips that we've just seen there really? i mean, open laughter. it appears that the record of this prime minister this is what we're seeing.

>> patrick raucous, disbelieving laughter , the, when nigel farage laughter, the, when nigel farage is cutting through until recently talking about immigration and these appalling huge numbers that are coming in that are overwhelming public services that made you unpleasant, far right people are no longer accepting that label. i won't accept that label because my kids are in their 20s and they're struggling to get affordable accommodation. people are experiencing this across the country. and andrew mitchell to whom christopher hope was speaking, was saying, oh, these are high immigration figures are to do with people coming in from ukraine and hong kong. no they're not. 50% of them are dependents of people coming in, students bringing their mum, their auntie, their dog. we have been made an absolute joke and why nigel farage came the top in the yougov snap poll of last. the last debate on last friday, and will almost certainly come top again tonight, is because he is speaking truth and the other six are colluding in the conventional lies of which

people are absolutely sick. >> okay, cool , my side one, >> okay, cool, my side one, listen . listen, i think there's listen. listen, i think there's two things. the immigration figures . i two things. the immigration figures. i think all of the current political firmament need to take some responsibility for that, because if you're rishi sunak, you've had to battle very hard to make any changes at all. and labour have fought you every step of the way. they are outside supporters for the prime minister at every step of the way, as well. so i think it's not just rishi who has big questions to answer on immigration, it's labour. the other piece i'll say about immigration as well, they've always used the term safe and secure routes. now, i spoke to a group of young people on the way here, and they said to me that that seems like more people. they're in favour of more people, but it sounds like more people. so i think one of the real features that's missing from this, from this, this whole campaign, is labour being asked the tough questions. okay. >> what do you make of the fact that just before that, debate there farages party became, i

suppose, the party of opposition as it were. he's being very, very strong now. he's being really bullish when it comes to immigration and the impact that's having on people. i don't think people can now call him fringe or far right. or can they in your view? >> well, i think clearly nigel farage and the reform party are appealing to a group of voters, and this is a group of voters who feel neglected. they feel let down by the conservative government. they feel like none of the parties are telling them the truth. there is a huge issue with trust just haemorrhaging, in politics. i was out in warrington on tuesday talking to voters, and what was overwhelming clear to me is that they didn't trust any party and those, you know, there was some support for labour. that's not surprising. warrington is a red town, or at least warrington nonhis town, or at least warrington north is, but absolutely , people north is, but absolutely, people don't like the way politicians talk to them and they don't believe they're telling them the truth. the thing that people like about nigel farage is they think he he is telling them the truth. i disagree, i think he is using immigration as a convenient way to explain away

all the problems in the country. the truth is, the government have underfunded public services. the truth is they've not built enough houses , they've not built enough houses, they've not built enough houses, they've not put enough money into the nhs. they're not thinking long term. >> the argument will be how can we, when we've got so many people coming every single year? >> but even before that they weren't, you know, they were not thinking long term about the problems in this country. and actually we are dependent on immigration, especially in health and social care. we have an ageing population. we need staff to look after those people. >> all right. we will come back to this. it's going to be a bit chaotic this hour, as it always is, because we've got these leadership debates, coming up every single orifice at the moment, it seems. but we're going to take you back there now with christopher hope, our political editor. there he is. fantastic. christopher, you've got another spin room to wander around. >> yeah, i'm shocked by the mention of orifices this late night, patrick, but i'll show you around the spin room. follow me. this way. it's your favourite part of the day, isn't it, patrick? here we are. so this is where all the journalists be sitting, doing their work. now, the some of them are here working hard, right? in tomorrow's front pages. it's a bit more of a lower. there's a low key spin

room compared to previous ones because it's not quite the same as, as the, as the leader, as starmer versus , sunak as we had starmer versus, sunak as we had previously. but yeah, this is, this is where everyone's battling all the deaths here where journalists are writing their stories for tomorrow, there's over there, there's a bbc, thanks to ollie over here. this way. and then we'll come round here. there's some labour spokesmen wandering around. this way down there is the coronation street set. patrick will go there later if you want to, but they may not be. time. and then this way. but thank god it this way, you'll see all the interviews being taking place and other channels. of course, no one watches them because they love gb news most of all, you'll see here david davis there. he's speaking to, i think, good morning britain , i think on morning britain, i think on a pre—record, here's the brexit party spokesman, david bull, yeah. party spokesman, david bull, yeah . so it's quite a, it's yeah. so it's quite a, it's quite of intense hot place , quite of intense hot place, yeah, yeah. the idea of orifices though is not very pleasant. so we'll move on from that. but no, it's a it's a fun place to be

and a fun place to work. >> fantastic. christopher thank you very much. and i demand to see the set of coronation street later on as well. so you shouldn't have mentioned that because you're giving yourself some extra work. but we'll be going back to christopher. excuse me, because he's going to be grabbing some of those people there, left, right and centre to talk us through what was going on at that particular leadership debate. but there were a load more things to discuss. there was the nhs that came up, there was the nhs that came up, there was education as well. and tax, tax, tax, whether or not you think after that labour manifesto that came out today , manifesto that came out today, do you buy it when it comes to the actual taxation promises that they've got so look, when i come back, we're going to be taking you back to the heart of the action. my wonderful panel going to be and we have got a heck of a

welcome back. so during this seven way leadership showdown, angela rayner claimed that labour won't rejoin the eu single market if elected, would you ever rejoin the eu or the single market? >> angela rayner no. >> angela rayner no. >> and europol question before was brexit and it was a result of the referendum. >> that's why you would never rejoin the eu or the single market. no thank you . market. no thank you. >> shameful. >> shameful. >> yes, absolutely . >> yes, absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> rest of the snp they're saying yes. absolutely fascinating. isn't he. given the recent results in the consonant, there . but let's head over now

there. but let's head over now to our political editor, christopher hope. he's in the spin room with shadow chief secretary to the treasury is darren jones. christopher, back out. you >> thank you patrick. that's right. darren jones is with me now darren jones thank you for joining us tonight on gb news. penny mordaunt is right. you're going to rack up taxes. nope >> she's wrong. >> she's wrong. >> we've been very clear. >> we've been very clear. >> there's a triple lock promise we will not increase income tax, national insurance or vat if we're elected on july the 4th for the course of the next parliament. and everything in our manifesto today is fully funded and fully costed. >> what this is from penny mordaunt and the conservatives is desperation because of where they're performing in this election. >> whereas what you saw from angela rayner, our deputy leader in the labour party, was our ambitious plan for growth, that we're ready to deliver and we want to bring that change to the country on july the 4th. >> should i list all the other taxes you haven't mentioned yet? then shall i do it? i mean, capital gains tax. so it goes on stamp duty all the other measures. you might lift your sin taxes. and so it goes on. are they all going to be left alone too? >> well, next time you should bnng >> well, next time you should

bring all the tomes of the tax code. we can go through it page by page. >> got it in your bag. you showed me. you got your file here. >> it was much larger than that. it's much larger than that. but look, we're very clear. we do not need to raise taxes. our funding, our policies are fully funded and fully costed in our manifesto. and we know that people at home, because of the increases in tax under the conservatives over the past few years, are worried about those big taxes that we all pay. and that's why there's a promise from labour not to increase income tax, national insurance or vat. >> income is taxed quite highly. wealth isn't cgt being one example. do you want to equalise those two measures? >> well, we've taken action to close loopholes on wealth. that's why the non—dom tax status is changing under a future labour government. if we're elected and why we're charging income tax on the profits made by private equity businesses as opposed to them being taxed at capital terms. so we're taking action on asset based wealth from the wealthy. but people at home are generally not in those circumstances. they worry about income tax, national insurance and vat. and guess what? labour will not increase any of them if we win the election on july the 4th. >> in that debate on tv just now, christine, from manchester, said immigration levels are too high. she's right, isn't she? >> net migration has become too high and the reason that it's

become too high is because there's not adequate training and skills across the economy for people that want to get on and do different types of work. and that's why we've said in the labour party that we're going to make sure that employers who rely too much on overseas labour are required to put in skills and training plan for workers here in the uk, so those jobs are available for uk workers . are available for uk workers. >> nigel farage said that many come here and don't want to work. they're not productive. do you think every migrant who comes here wants to work and be productive? >> there are lots of migrants that come to work here in our social care system. for example, and we value and welcome their contribution. but the fact is, we've become too reliant on overseas labour, and that's why we've got to get these training and skills plans into the uk so that uk workers get the chance for new jobs and new salaries across the across the economy, labour will bring down migration. >> you've said in your manifesto today to what level? what's your number? >> we're not going to set an arbitrary number because these things fluctuate all the time. and we know from the tories that they failed repeatedly in doing that. but we're very clear the net migration numbers need to come down in the way that i've just explained. >> why should voters believe you? because you let in the a2 nations, the a8 nations back in

the noughties, didn't you ? and the noughties, didn't you? and that led to loads of romanians coming here. bulgarians. and so it went on. >> well, look, there's a commitment in our manifesto. it's a plan for change. and it's not just a headline policy commitment. it's packaged with a load of support there on skills, on training, on support for the social care system, on the new deal for working people. that means that for uk workers here in the uk, they'll get protection at work and the opportunities they deserve . opportunities they deserve. >> brexit under labour are we out, out, out of the single market and out of the customs union? definitely for sure. >> yes. >> yes. >> not everyone believes stephen flynn thinks that's shameful. >> oh well, that's stephen flynn's point and he can answer these questions. but look, the uk has made the decision on brexit. we respect the outcome of the referendum. look we can make improvements to the relationship with europe because the trade deal that boris johnson signed up to left lots of inadequacies in the system. and some of us, some of that's now being experienced and we can improve that trading relationship. but we'll do that as a friend and an ally as a third country, not by rejoining the european union. >> your party tonight has started to attack nigel farage. is that because he is now the official opposition to the labour party in the sense of in

the polls? >> no, there's only two people who are going to become prime minister on july the 4th. it'll either be keir starmer or rishi sunak. but look, it's quite remarkable that nigel farage was so honest about the fact this evening that he felt the national health service, as we know it, should no longer exist. and i think people deserve to know that. >> well, darren jones, thank you for joining us today on gb news. forjoining us today on gb news. darren jones, there with he's shrugging off the threat from nigel farage. patrick okay. >> well thank you very much christopher. we'll be going back to you at some point no doubt. well i'm just going to reintroduce my panel now. daily telegraph columnist allison pearson, conservative peer lord bailey, journalist and broadcaster zoe grunwald allison , should we be worried about labourin , should we be worried about labour in tax? yeah absolutely. >> i mean, i am admiring their message, discipline , patrick. message, discipline, patrick. they can touch power now. it's, you know , it's very close to you know, it's very close to them. so they are holding the line. they're not giving any hostages to fortune. the manifesto was extremely cautious. and they've reassured people they're not we're not going to increase income tax, vat, national insurance, no increased taxes on working

people . so where is this money people. so where is this money going to come from? where are these billions of pounds going to come from? the vat on private schools, which they seem to think is an endless magic money pot? that's not going to that's not going to generate very much, because lots of thousands of those children are going to go pounng those children are going to go pouring into the state system because their parents can't afford it. so i think we are going to be looking at raids on, probably inheritance tax, pension relief, capital gains tax taking ahead of this year. >> yeah, millions are. however many parents you said aren't going to pour into the state school system. threes have repeatedly gone up over the last 20 years. and we've seen no obvious exodus of parents 200 200,000. >> they think will go into the state system based on what calculations it's not based on. lots of people are not it's not going up. >> fees have gone up a lot over the past 20 years and but have but have fees taken a jump in this at 20% in one time. they've gone up over the past. no no no

no no at one point you know, going up 20% over several years. >> that's inflation. people prepared for that. your salary will match that at 20. jump in one year. >> the point is we need to get some money into the state school system. it is not fair that there are children who are learning in environments with schools falling on their heads, where their parents have to do whip rounds for pens, for equipment that is not fair. you have to get the money. >> i hear, i hear what people i hean >> i hear, i hear what people i hear, this is what's unfair about this whole election. nobody's talked about how far the british school system has advanced since the tories have taken over. i'm a governor of several schools. i have been in the past. i fully accept that no school is awash with money. but let's be clear. if you have any kind of special need, you want to be in a state school, not a private school. we're better at that. we have much more resource. the idea that our state school system is complete rubbish and falling apart is not true. and why the vat thing annoys me slightly because they've talked about 6000 teachers being paid for with this money. what they haven't calculated is when those kids come into the, into state

schools, not only will you need more teachers, you'll have less money. they also have a bigger fact. >> it's the fact that a lot of teachers want to work in a private school as well. they just do higher salaries. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> so the idea that you're just going to seamlessly transition, that's not fair either. >> you know, teachers should. why not. because you don't want it shouldn't be at the expense of children's education. >> but there are lots of places it shouldn't be. will they have strikes? >> and parents who send their children private are already paying children private are already paying from their income tax for a place they don't use in a state system. so when they suddenly do use that place, you are going , you know schools are are going, you know schools are going to lose that money. it's not going to add up. >> schools are still going to exist. it's not going to decimate the private school sector. yes it is. have plenty of money. they will. they don't even have to pass the money on to their the fees. not in all cases they don't. >> okay. all right, all right. i mean i know from having spoken to plenty of people who are at private schools in terms of teaching staff, etc. over the course of this job that they are very worried. i mean, there are

schools that were founded in, like the 1600s that could now close down. i mean, keir starmer could be going around for managing to shut a school that has somehow survived since the 16005, has somehow survived since the 1600s, which is incredible. there is another privatisation debate raging at this election, and it is on the nhs, i believe. i've got a little clip here of a back and forth on the nhs now in this election . this election. >> we liberal democrats have said that our manifesto is a manifesto to save the nhs and social care. we're pledging £9 billion to invest upstream . we billion to invest upstream. we see on the tv all these disastrous pictures of people dying in the back of ambulances, having suffering the indignity of corridor care because they can't see a gp, they can't see a dentist and that's what we want to fix , so that was obviously, to fix, so that was obviously, you know, loads more funding for the nhs . and there was the other the nhs. and there was the other side of it put up. before i go to my panel, here's a look at countries like france who spend exactly the same sum of money, but get far better services by people paying in to an insurance fund. >> it acts on a mutual basis .

>> it acts on a mutual basis. those that can't pay don't they get better results? let's think more broadly, sean, so quickly . more broadly, sean, so quickly. >> this is why people don't like politicians, because she said that nigel farage said he wants to privatise the nhs. he did nothing of the sort. what he what he offered was a different system . now, obviously i'm not system. now, obviously i'm not here to advocate for nigel, but it's clear if we're not going to have a realistic, accurate conversation, then people will just, will just will just turn off. the other thing to say about the nhs. i think we need to remove the politics. we give the nhs £180 billion plus if the villain of the piece is always politicians, it will never get sorted. we need to give that money to the professionals and let them take charge. accountability responsibility. >> there's no accountability. you know, i don't i don't mind saying this. i mean, i've given the nhs a really good go recently for the last year and a bit i was just trying to get an issue dealt with over the course of that, i've had three different diagnoses. they've lost my scans and an ultrasound at twice actually , and in the at twice actually, and in the end i was like, look, i want to

get this sorted as most people would, a year and a bit. i was waiting there, went private on thursday. i think it was , got a thursday. i think it was, got a thing tomorrow. and then i got a phone call saying that should wrap the whole thing up on monday. you know, i didn't want to do that, right. i didn't want to do that, right. i didn't want to do that, right. i didn't want to do it. but but people are dying on the nhs because of stuff like that, right? >> thousands and thousands of people are dying, waiting and i've heard recently this is just one example of an nhs trust near me where the neurologists have been told we can't have waiting lists this big. you need to get some of the people off. these are people with brain problems and they're literally getting letters sent out to people. sorry you've been on the list for two and a half years. you're no longer on the list. it's unbelievably serious. patrick. we have as sean said, 180 billion a year, a sum of money that is, is very comparable with other countries with with half private half state funding . and private half state funding. and we have in the united kingdom

the worst outcomes for common cancers in the developed world. all right. it's unbelievably serious. and they talk about it all these smug people. oh our nhs , our nhs, our nhs is killing people. >> oh sorry . >> oh sorry. >> oh sorry. >> well i certainly don't want to see the nhs privatised. and |, to see the nhs privatised. and i, i think most parties actually don't want to see the nhs privatised. but i think we do need to be realistic about some of the issues the nhs is facing . of the issues the nhs is facing. quite clearly, as everyone's just set out there. the nhs is in crisis and it has been for a long time. part of that is funding. i do believe the nhs needs money, but actually there are several other things the nhs needs as well. the first is an adequate, functioning social care system. one of the biggest problems with the nhs is that you have people blocking beds because there's nowhere for them to go. they aren't getting care in their communities, they're not getting out of hospitals. this is part of the reason why we've got this huge backlog. we need all the parties to be totally serious about social care. we've got an ageing ill population , most of them with population, most of them with comorbidities. unless we get that sorted and we get community care, running the nhs is never,

ever going to get. >> why has no other? why has no other country in the developed world copied this system in australia? if you had what patrick had, you go in on the monday. they say go for a scan this afternoon. i talked to a gp the other day. she's gone to become a private gp because she says someone comes in with a bad leg, she's not allowed to send them for a scan . she has to put them for a scan. she has to put them for a scan. she has to put them on a physio pathway for six weeks, which is completely useless . so then there aren't useless. so then there aren't enough scan machines. we have to have competition in the system. >> there's, there's two big, there's two big things. firstly, we actually have to work on the health of the country. we are a very ill nation. somebody needs to. nobody ever talks about the demand. the nhs has to do with. that's the first thing. the second thing, i go back to my point. we need to let those professionals who run the nhs take responsibility, not just, sorry to cut across you all, but i've got to. >> i'm delving back into the spin room now because christopher hope, our political editor , i believe is with david editor, i believe is with david bull, doctor david bull, i think his full title, of reform .

christopher. >> that's right. well, with david bull, i'm not sure as a medical doctor, patrick. but maybe an academic one. are you a doctor? david bull? i am a medical doctor. >> you? >> you? >> oh, well, they've been parties. been talking to the nhs on air tonight. parties. been talking to the nhs on air tonight . supposing go and on air tonight. supposing go and treat him. >> oh, well, maybe. >> oh, well, maybe. >> obviously i'm very happy to. yeah, absolutely. >> david bull, we've heard some policy tonight from your, your boss nigel farage. he wants to make the house of lords partially elected. is that in the manifesto when you finally pubush the manifesto when you finally publish one. >> we have been very clear. the house of lords is not fit for purpose. how can you stuff loads of people into the upper house? because they've been good eggs, or they've been working as a ps in a political party? of course it's not fit for purpose . so it's not fit for purpose. so we've said fundamentally it needs reform and nigel and i and richard are very clear about that. and that is exactly. and ben, habib and ben, everyone is saying that on the street as well. it is not representative of people around the country. >> your idea is to elect more paid politicians is to up the whole system with more of these

people to get in the way of proper governance. >> i don't know how many 630 or thereabouts in the upper house. >> the fact 900 there. >> the fact 900 there. >> well, there you go. there even more. i mean, it's ridiculous, isn't it? why do we need so many people? they clock in, they get some money for rocking up, and it's totally unacceptable . so what we need is unacceptable. so what we need is to actually have democratic accountability. and this is the whole point. and what nigel also talked about is our failing system first past the post. when you look at us, we're now at 19. every single party is going down. the tories are an exception. they've stayed static, but we thought this moment would come. this is the inflection point where we are actually now the opposition. and that's very exciting. >> only one poll, yougov, other polls have you a bit behind other polls. have you been a lot behind the tory party in second place? >> just you wait just you wait. and this is the point that actually, i think when you are in a metropolitan city, i don't think people really understand what's going on in the country. i've seen this once before , and i've seen this once before, and that was in the brexit vote,

where the metropolitan cities said there is no way they will vote to leave. and we voted to leave. i'm seeing it again wherever i go around this country , people are saying, country, people are saying, thank goodness nigel is here. thank goodness you're here. the country is broken and nigel is right. the country is broken. nothing works . nothing works in nothing works. nothing works in this country. whether it's the roads, whether it's potholes, whether it's being able to see a doctor. i mean, the whole thing is falling apart. >> nigel wants more. nigel farage wants more referendums on what we are. we like switzerland on everything . on everything. >> i mean, that was that was interesting. actually. i thought he's your leader. >> what does he mean? >> what does he mean? >> well, the whole point about about democracy is it should be accountable. and that's what make up on the hoof. >> david david bull. >> david david bull. >> so what i know i'm not. but what i will say to you is our contract with the people, not a manifesto, a contract has been on the website for some time and we've looked at that and the responses that are coming back. the final contract will be published next week and we will share that with you on gb news. it's a really exciting document and actually what it does, i

think, is it has vision and drive and determination for this great country and to get it back on its feet . on its feet. >> will nigel farage be allowed into the tory party i thought penny mordaunt didn't give a clear answer on that. >> no, i think what nigel said is actually we are now the opposition. so the fact is the tories are imploding. as you know, it's not one group. there are five, six different disparate groups , whether it's disparate groups, whether it's the erg, the common sense group, for example, the conservative growth group, there are all these different groups and they're all fighting. so we are focused on what we as reform can do. so we're determined to win those seats. and as we grow and as we build and remember, this is a six year project, then we will take over the tory party >> we you are rising in the polls. how many mps will you be left with after this election? >> well we be i mean, i think, as you know, it's very difficult under our current system, more than more than five or fewer than more than five or fewer than when we started out in this campaign three years ago, we said it would be great to get one, maybe two mps. and we

thought that even a week ago or two weeks ago. now we're thinking, well, actually, if we got two, three, four, that would be incredible. and you've got to remember, we're three years old. this is david versus goliath. they've got masses of money to spend. we don't. >> so four mps is a best case scenario for your party. >> well, let's just wait and see, shall we? because the great british public will vote in their droves for reform uk. and of that i have no doubt. >> but if you're second in the polls, what's the point? four mps is hardly. he's not even a mass movement. >> it's not worth fighting for democracy in this country because i think it is. >> if people on the right want to stop labour, they should vote for the tory party. >> no, actually, if people want to stop labour, they should vote for us because actually we are the effective opposition, not the effective opposition, not the conservatives. they've had their go, they've messed it up for 14 years. penny mordaunt had no answers for any of that. >> david bull thank you. you heard it. you heard it. there for mps we're hearing now from reform uk could be on the cards for this minor party three years old. and it's now making surging forward in some of the polls tonight with yougov . tonight with yougov. >> i love this stuff christopher. thank you very very much. in his element there, our

political editor christopher hope. i'm just going to whisk you through very quickly the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages . so start newspaper front pages. so start with the eye. yeah. there we go. labour overtakes tories on defence but gets reality check on growing the uk economy. so i've got some numbers for here you. labour is five points ahead of the tories on security and defence in the wake of the d—day gaffe from rishi sunak . we've gaffe from rishi sunak. we've got the overall 41% of voters say they support labour, as the conservatives slipped two points to 21. let's go to the times poll places reform ahead of the conservatives and there's a picture there of rishi sunak sunak and giorgia meloni looking as though he has just made a very inappropriate suggestion to it, which i'm sure he did not. but anyway, the nigel farage is reform uk party has overtaken the tories in that yougov poll for the times over now to the mirror. we'll give the nation hope. starmers manifesto pledge to boost economy, build a

brighter future for our children. we've spoken quite a lot there about keir starmer already as the manifesto launch earlier today. telegraph same picture rishi sunak giorgia meloni just can't. it's so memorable, isn't it? this picture, you know what's his breath like? for example, someone might choose to say reform overtakes tories for the first time. very similar from pages there between the times and the telegraph it must be said, but yes, there we go. so those, those are, those are some of the papers , if i just bring of the papers, if i just bring my panel back in now, we've got allison pearson from the daily telegraph. i've also got conservative peer lord bailey and journalist and broadcaster zoe grunwald, and look, i suppose the big one is, you know, this reform, isn't it, overtaking the tories for the first time, we have spoken about it quite a lot tonight, though. we've also touched on the, on the tax issue , haven't we. the tax issue, haven't we. >> and we've mentioned, can i just say so this giorgia meloni with, you know, nice loving with rishi, you'll remember patrick when georgia was, elected and.

oh, dear. you know, mussolini's granddaughter , far right. granddaughter, far right. dreadful. she's actually taken her place rather gracefully and is now doing very, very well in italy. and i think we're going we're going to see that now across europe. and the i think the big the big turning point for labour, one potential thing is marine le pen and the, the lovely toyboy. what's he called? jordan bardello. if they get if they take control in france in in three weeks time, they could call a referendum on immigration. and that's going to change europe and that then the labour government over here, a starmer government will be an outlier compared to all these other countries across europe, which are moving to the right where immigration is a is a is a huge thing, but lovely to see with presumably farage and whatever remains of a conservative party waiting in the wings, waiting . the wings, waiting. >> you may be making that point about the polls. this one has labour on 37. but then if you

add up reform and the tories okay, and it's absolutely fair to say that they, they do not all vote for each other. right. but if you just took that at face value then that would add up to more. but what will happen? >> sorry sean. just quickly, what will happen is now this, showing reform ahead that will embolden a lot of people to now think, oh, because but this this is my point reform. >> so three things. firstly if europe changes on immigration that could benefit a labour government because it reduce the numbers overall. no, no, i'm just saying just give you another perspective. the other thing about reform ahead, why are people not talking about labour not surging ahead. their numbers coming down. people are talking about reform ahead because they want to crush the tories. well, that's interesting is that there's not something in that. >> i mean, this latest poll does have labour down doesn't it. >> well, look , there are lots of >> well, look, there are lots of polls. they're going to be even more polls. and they always move slightly. it always depends on what's happened that week. you know, someone's released a manifesto. if rishi sunak left another event, early things shift. right? so we have to take

every poll with a pinch of salt. what is true is we have seen that reform lead going up, and we have seen that tory lead shrinking. labour's has stayed pretty firm. i think at one point there were 42. >> now that 37 they're going to march downwards. and i said it before, the more people hear from keir starmer, the less confidence they'll have in a labour government. >> is there some concern that we could end up with actually a very unstable kind of almost immediately unpopular keir starmer government ? starmer government? >> i think if labour get into power and keir starmer has promised change, that his his one word slogan and nothing changes, he has a very broad pool of support. right. but it's not very deep. yeah. so there are a lot of people who are lending their vote to labour thinking anything can be better than the tories. and if it doesn't change, then actually that could break a lot of trust. >> well, you're talking about poll numbers, zoe, for me, the most really interesting numbers are sunaks, personal popularity is way into negative territory, but so is keir starmer's. we have two leaders and nobody much

likes them, much likes the look of them. we have such. we haven't got we haven't, we haven't got we haven't, we haven't got, we haven't got anyone. i've got a margaret thatcher. we haven't got a churchill. we've got two people. and if he gets becomes prime minister and things don't go well, there isn't vast support for him in the country. >> i'm just being told we do have a clip, for what it's worth, of plaid cymru. and can i just say, yeah. the nation holds its breath. go on. plied the election. >> you'll hear me talking a lot about ambition. where is the ambition from either of the westminster main parties to invest in allowing us in wales to make the most of our natural resources through devolving the crown estate, allowing us to invest in transport and connectivity through giving us the billions we're owned are owed as a result of hs2 rail in england . that's the ambition england. that's the ambition that we need. we're not hearing it from the conservatives and i regret we're not hearing it from nigel. >> what's a good job? they named him, isn't it? now the public are openly laughing at politicians meaningless word salad. it's becoming something of a running theme this election. but you might remember this from last night's battle for number 10 on sky news.

>> when i grew up, my dad was a toolmaker. he worked in a factory . it's true. my mom was factory. it's true. my mom was a nurse and actually we couldn't make ends meet. >> yeah, there's something very old happening here with sir keir starmer. so in an exclusive sit down with gb news political editor christopher hope, mr starmer gave this quite odd, i think, emotional response to that audience reaction. >> so when someone laughed last night, my dad would have turned in his grave. was that a snobbishness towards your dad? i don't know what caused someone to laugh , no, but if you're to laugh, no, but if you're laughing at someone because they work in a factory and that is the one thing that i think had a massive impact on someone like my dad. the disrespect. and it's in me. you can see i'm angry about it. you are angry, frustrated . frustrated. >> do you think he realises that we're not laughing at his dad? i think anyone's laughing at his dad. laughing at the fact that he keeps using the phrase my dad was a toolmaker. it's relentless , but we will get into that coming up, though, what sparked the brawl in the italian parliament that resulted in one

pummelled politician leaving in a wheelchair after being battered? we'll reveal all in tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. tonight's greatest britain and union jackass . but first we'll union jackass. but first we'll bnng union jackass. but first we'll bring you labour candidate dawn butler's vote performance as she sings for britain's vote stay tuned

all right. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, just before the break, i played you a little snippet of labour's dawn butler, who has made waves on social media today for, well, should we just call it a unique approach to gaining votes? the 54 year old candidate for brent east called out the prime minister's d—day antics, made it clear how she wants the conservatives out of number 10. i think it's only fair at this point that we let dawn's musical talent speak for itself . talent speak for itself. >> dawn butler, nelson production come on 4th of july.

don't forget to pop anyone . don't forget to pop anyone. thanks. go! >> we got 21 days to go. if you like , let me know. let me have like, let me know. let me have a shadow. got 21 days because you gotta go appreciate d—day. where did he go? say you wish you had d—day. where did he go? like, don't let a liar run the show. like, don't let a liar run the show. if you like me, let me know. let me add the shadow. got 21 days before they gotta go. >> 21 days to go. >> 21 days to go. >> right? okay i believe i've got the full list of candidates in brent east. or, you know , in brent east. or, you know, it's dawn butler, labour party, jamila robertson, conservative and unionist party jonny singh, the lib dems . and i've also got the lib dems. and i've also got the lib dems. and i've also got the big new kowalczyk of reform. anita al fayed of the green party, james mutimer workers party, james mutimer workers party of britain. oh good. there's another page. jana clarence joseph falwell, independent. these are all independents. party amin, morphe and adil sheikh . those are all and adil sheikh. those are all independents. right. brilliant stuff. okay, so that was dawn butler there. i don't know

whether or not people think that was a visible sign of decline in our political class. very shortly i'm going to get the nod. i can go back to our political editor, christopher hope, i believe are i believe he's got a surprise for us now . he's got a surprise for us now. he has . he has. >> are you there? yeah. because this is roy's rolls in in weatherfield, in coronation street up here with me. ollie, look up here. that is elsie tanner on the wall. because we are in the home of coronation street. and patrick, just for you, an absolute treat. are you ready? here it comes. the rovers return . look, there it is. the return. look, there it is. the famous pub in coronation street . famous pub in coronation street. sadly, this is only a set i can't get in. but i want to prove to you i'm working really hard for your show tonight. oh chris was never in doubt. >> it was never in doubt . you >> it was never in doubt. you are a beautiful man. thank you very, very much. absolutely we love it. didn't think you'd actually go and do that. so thank you very much. it's christopher jennie bond political editor there

christopherjennie bond political editor there doing in the way that only he can whizzing you around, not just when he's not grilling frontbenchers. he's out there looking at roy's rolls and no, thatis looking at roy's rolls and no, that is not a euphemism, so look, what do we make? we've still got a few minutes left here. alison, what do you make of that dawn butler thing? is it a bit of harmless fun, or actually, is that a visible sign of. go on. can i just say what people might not know? >> what you might not know? 21 days to go is from a song called 21 seconds to go by so solid crew. it was a really big tune, probably late, late 90s, and she sort of brought that back because she's in an urban seat. iused because she's in an urban seat. i used to live in her seat, and for some people in her firmament, that will ring a bell and make people laugh. but for me, it was a bit of fun. it's a teeny bit crazy, but she she's never been shy about putting her best foot forward. she's always been. >> what do you reckon? i mean, i suppose if people didn't like her, they weren't going to like that. if they do like her, they are. it doesn't really move the dial, does it? >> exactly. and it's as you know, sean says it's for constituents and it's for it's probably for the youth vote as well. you know, i think it's a great thing. i like to see politicians have fun, a bit of

harmless fun, have a joke. i think it's i think it's great. and i actually thought it was quite good as well. >> you thought it was good, did you? quite. alison not impressed, but still time for rishi sunak to make one. very true. >> come on patrick, you know, don't leave me this way. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it wasn't me little, you know. it wasn't me. >> it wasn't me. >> it wasn't me. >> yeah, it should have been me. bit of a duet with jeremy hoffman. how much worse could it get walking away ? get walking away? >> craig? david. yeah. okay, good. goodbye, baby. >> baby. bye bye. bye bye. >> baby. bye bye. bye bye. >> all right. okay. right on a slight shift in tone. now, here's, stephen flynn, the leader of the snp in westminster, talking about gaza. >> it took four and a half months and the death or injury of almost 100,000 civilian in gaza for the labour party to back a ceasefire on day one of a labour government. >> will you end arms sales to israel? >> well, if we were in government, we would immediately

review, as we've been asking the conservatives the legal advice on arms sales to israel and we will comply with international law . law. >> thank you , okay. there. so >> thank you, okay. there. so the gaza discussion, i suppose it has gone a bit quiet politically on gaza now. i thought that was going to have a bit more of an impact on this election when it came to the labour party. it's quite astonishing that stephen flynn, snp, all the problems that scotland's got and all these people on the far left, all they can bang on about is palestine and gaza, gaza, glasgow. >> that got to do with the cost of living for people in scotland. >> come on, the last intervention the labour party made on gaza was was quite a revelation. it's quite worrying. they're talking about recognising a palestinian state before any negotiation. i think that's very dangerous because you need to have a proper negotiation so we can get to a two state solution. so i think that's very selfish and self—serving, just so they can win an election here at risk lives of both palestinians and israelis in gaza. >> maybe this is not getting enough attention, actually it's not to the snp. a labour government would fundamentally

change our priorities in the middle east and potentially leave us with not a huge amount of allies there. if we if we decide to divest from israel . decide to divest from israel. >> well, i don't know about that. i think i think labour clearly, this has been a really contentious issue for the party and a lot of voters do care about what's happening in the middle east. they see the images coming out of gaza and they are appalled by them. and i think a lot of mps have been worried about how labour's position in the early stages might affect their seats. we've seen the rise of independent candidates. we saw what happened in rochdale with george galloway for the workers party. so this is an important issue to self—serving. >> it's self—serving . >> it's self—serving. >> it's self—serving. >> it's self—serving. >> i don't think it is, though. it is. >> if an mp, i care a lot about this, let's be clear, lots of voters care about it and that's their job. voters care about it and that's theirjob. that's voters care about it and that's their job. that's correct. voters care about it and that's theirjob. that's correct. no, no, it isn't a politician's job to be self—serving in their own seat, to endanger, to endanger the lives of people elsewhere in the lives of people elsewhere in the world. when the western world generally hold on, the western world generally has has anidea western world generally has has an idea around a two state solution right to, to, to, to, to bring us out of that in your manifesto, just to protect a few

of your mps, i do think it's something we need to worry about. >> i think people see what's happening in gaza. i think they hear that 30 over 30,000 people have died. they see a population that is, you know, mainly children, and they feel incredibly upset about that. and they want their politicians to all of that. >> i think labour party is going to sell the british jews down the river, and we're going to see british jews leaving the united kingdom in huge numbers, all really. and it's to save their seats because even angela raynen their seats because even angela rayner, this is really you shouldn't generalise like that. >> my grandfather was jewish and he was very supportive of the rights of palestinians. you shouldn't generalise well. >> well, most jewish people i know i've helped found the british friends of israel and jews are saying to us that they are leaving the country. angela rain is in his seat. patrick, where she is under threat from a from a from the muslim party. >> okay. well, look, hey, we obviously are going to carry this on for another hour, but we can't because i've got to go. but, look, can i just say a massive thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everybody who's been watching and listening. as you all know by now, it's headliners next. so we're taking you through all of

tomorrow's newspaper front pages. see you in a bit. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news tomorrow. well, there'll be some sunshine , but be prepared for sunshine, but be prepared for some heavy showers and gusty winds at times as well. we've seen some blustery conditions today across the west from this area of low pressure. it's been bringing these weather fronts which have been bringing in outbreaks of rain spreading steadily now to northern scotland and across eastern england . it will turn a little england. it will turn a little dner england. it will turn a little drier through the night, that rain tending to move away from much of wales, the midlands and southern england. a few showers will follow in behind the winds, easing a touch but still quite breezy and a very mild night. not really for the time of year, but certainly compared to most nights of late temperatures holding up in double figures, so it won't be as chilly first thing tomorrow morning. there'll be some sunshine over the midlands and parts of eastern

england , but still quite breezy england, but still quite breezy along the south coast, and it won't take long before the showers get going. certainly across wales. expect some showers through the early part of the morning coming into western scotland. northwest england parts of northern ireland may start dry by a different start to the day here, compared to today, but across northern scotland, very different day here because after a largely fine day today, there's going to be much more cloud rain and a fairly brisk wind, and that may stick around across the far north of scotland for most of the day. elsewhere, we'll be chasing the showers through. there will be some sunshine, but the downpours will never be too far away. all areas having that kind of really changeable day. one minute it's fine, ten minutes later it's chucking it down with rain, the showers zipping through on a fairly brisk breeze, and when the sun's out, well, it will feel a little warmer than it has done for most of this week. temperatures still below average for the time of year, but a little bit higher

gb news. >> good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. the conservative party has fallen behind. reform uk for the first time in a new yougov poll. nigel farage's party are now one point ahead of the tories. labour still sits in the lead at 37. the lib dems on 14, the greens seven on and snp on 3. four out of seven politicians taking part in the election debate this evening raised their hands when asked whether immigration is too

high, nigel farage pointed to the conservatives record . the conservatives record. >> given that your 2010 manifesto, your 2015 manifesto, your 2017 manifesto said you'd reduced net migration to tens of thousands , your 2019 manifesto thousands, your 2019 manifesto said immigration would massively reduce, and that net 4.3 million people have come into the country since that time . why on country since that time. why on earth should anybody believe the fifth manifesto that promises cuts to net migration? >> because of the record of this prime minister? so we've had we've had enough. >> that's fine. i'm happy. >> that's fine. i'm happy. >> figures out today. >> figures out today. >> but commons leader penny mordaunt reaffirmed the conservatives plans to halve migration by next summer. >> whatever the public think about the numbers, what they want from their government and their parliament is to control access of foreign nationals to the uk. we can ensure that each year the numbers come down and on our plans as we are due to

halve that number, halve