with his five missions for stuck with his five missions for government. he set out last yean government. he set out last year, leading to criticism that it was a captain caution manifesto. sir ed davey took time away from the waterslides and theme parks to unveil a £9.4 billion a year package for the nhs and social care as a centrepiece of his plan and reform. uk's parliamentary broadcast message was clear. but what would could we expect from them when to release their pledges? probably on monday. i'm joined by the liberal democrats christine jardine, reform uk's rupert lowe and outgoing tory former tory mp. of course, sir john redwood . plus my studio john redwood. plus my studio guest, former tory party politician jo—anne nadler and labour party volunteer susie stride. a busy hour, but first the . news.

the. news. >> chris, thank you very much and good evening. the top stories, the princess of wales says she's making good progress after her cancer diagnosis, and she says that she will attend the trooping the colour tomorrow. the update is accompanied by a new photograph of the princess taken by photographer matt porteous , photographer matt porteous, which shows her near her home in windsor. princess kate also says she hopes to join a few public engagements over the summer as she continues her cancer for a few more months. her cancer treatment. she says she's been blown away by all of the kind messages of support and encouragement over the last couple of months, but that she's not out of the woods just yet. the princess has been undergoing treatment, including chemotherapy, since being diagnosed with an unspecified type of cancer earlier this year . in other news, nigel farage says reform uk is now the opposition after a poll put them i% ahead of the conservative party. yougov says the close

result represents a seismic shift in the voting landscape . shift in the voting landscape. but they also cautioned that britain's voting system means reform may still struggle to pick up any seats. labour still well ahead on 37, down one point, while the liberal democrats also lost a point, scoring 14% with the greens on seven. nigel farage says his party could change the dynamic on election day , still pumping on election day, still pumping out the same line that if you vote for reform you will get laboun >> but the inflection point means that actually if you vote conservative in the red wall, you will almost certainly get labour a conservative vote in the red wall is now a wasted vote. we are the challengers to laboun vote. we are the challengers to labour. we are now the real opposition specialist . opposition specialist. >> mental health hubs would be set up under a plan by to labour help people get back to work. it would see an extra 8500 new staff recruited to boost access

to mental health support, depression and anxiety are among the most common conditions that force people out of work. whilst an estimated 1.2 million people are currently waiting for mental health treatment, the prime minister says the days today are more dangerous than they've ever been. more dangerous than they've ever been . as he addresses a g7 been. as he addresses a g7 summit in southern italy , rishi summit in southern italy, rishi sunak also addressed illegal migration and said it's now a global emergency. it has been agreed at the summit that nato is to have more control over the coordination of weapons for ukraine. the us and ukrainian president signed a ten year security agreement at the summit last night , security agreement at the summit last night, inching it closer towards membership of the alliance. it aims to guarantee support for ukraine's war with russia just moments ago, mr sunak said ukraine security is our security. >> we are in this for the long term. putin will not outlast us. the uk has committed £3 billion of military aid every year to the end of the decade. we're

dialling up the economic pressure on russia with 50 new sanctions this week alone, and we've just announced over £240 million for reconstruction . but million for reconstruction. but as i've long argued, russia itself must pay for the destruction it has caused. and now russia will pay . now russia will pay. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . go to gb news. com slash alerts. >> thank you tatiana. now this week, five of the major seven parties announced their policies to the nation labour, the conservatives, the liberal democrats, the greens and plaid cymru have all released their manifestos with reform uk and the snp's policy platforms due next week. on monday this week, sir ed davey took time out from his summer of fun to unveil a

£9.4 billion a year package for the nhs and social care . he also the nhs and social care. he also launched an attack on the current tory government . current tory government. >> the conservative party have so poisoned britain's relationship with our nearest neighbours, our allies , they've neighbours, our allies, they've undermined trust that bit of seriousness was just a brief pause, though, as he went from somewhere near old street in london to enjoying his day at a theme park, and you saw what he had to offer there at thorpe park. >> and that's actually my film. i filmed on my phone . he even i filmed on my phone. he even conducted some of his media interviews aboard the teacups from the high speeds of the roller coaster at thorpe park to the home of british motor racing. the following day, on tuesday, rishi sunak geared up for his manifesto launch by taking the stage at silverstone, the f1 track, and we will keep cutting taxes in the coming years, meaning that by 2027 we

will have halved national insurance to 6. >> that is a tax cut. my friends, worth £1,500 to the average worker. >> and on wednesday he went head to head with labour leader sir keir starmer in a battle of the interviews in front of an audience in grimsby. yougov's reaction poll resulted in a good night's work for labour leader sir keir starmer. night's work for labour leader sir keir starmer . we had a bad sir keir starmer. we had a bad taste in the mouth of the audience, laughed when he mentioned that his father was a toolmaker during one of his answers. >> so when answers. >> 50 when someone answers. >> so when someone laughed last night, my dad would have turned in his grave . in his grave. >> it was a snobbishness towards your dad. >> do you think i don't know what caused someone to laugh? no, but if you're laughing at someone because they work in a factory and that is the one thing that i think had a massive impact on someone like my dad. the disrespect. and it's in me. you can see i'm angry about it. you can see i'm angry about it. you are angry . rated. you are angry. rated. >> yeah, that was quite surprising that interview with me just yesterday on the

campaign bus in alexandra football club. on thursday, it was labour's turn to outline what a future would look like under their government. it didn't please everyone . didn't please everyone. >> vie when you say that you're offering change, but it's the same old tory policies. we need better. the climate can't wait. >> the climate can't wait. we need a green new deal now . need a green new deal now. >> and the man who many tipped to be our next prime minister stuck with his five missions for government that he set out last yean government that he set out last year, leading to criticism from journalists that it was a captain caution manifesto. but he was undeterred. >> it's another thing because there may be some people here today who say , where's the today who say, where's the surprise? where's the rabbit? out of the hat? to which i say, if you want politics as pantomime, i hear clapton is nice this time of year. >> on thursday, spokespeople from the main parties took to the stage for a second seven way

debate up in manchester, with migration the hot topic, why on earth should anybody believe the fifth manifesto that promises cuts to net migration? >> because of the record of this prime minister? so we've had we've had oh no, that's fine. >> i'm happy now, buoyed by the polls from that debate in salford and one from yougov placing reform uk above the tory party for the first time in a campaign today. >> the party's leader, nigel farage, made this striking claim. >> we're not going to get 4 million votes, we're not going to get 5 million votes, we're going to get a very, very substantial number of votes. i genuinely think we can get over 6 million votes now to discuss another eventful week leading up to july, the fourth general election. >> i'm very pleased to be joined by conservative commentator jo—anne nadler and labour volunteer suzy stride. well, welcome both to the show.

jo—anne nadler. why is no one listening to the tory party? this? here is the manifesto we were given in silverstone, on tuesday , much of it tuesday, much of it pre—announced as the parties try to get the engines going in its own version of what should be an f1 car. but it's more like a robin reliant. what's going on? >> i think there's a kind of long term answer to that question and a shorter term answer. the shorter term answer, i think, is that, rishi sunak hoped that he'd sort of gained the momentum by going early and surprising people with this election. and then he sort of promptly lost the capacity to dominate the headlines, in a positive way. first of all, i think by nigel farage's entry into the race and secondly by a number of his own , inept number of his own, inept mistakes, most obviously, obviously what happened on one happened on d—day. and that's really kind of come into people's consciousness and they've really forgotten what was discussed in the in the

manifesto . the longer answer to manifesto. the longer answer to that question, i think, is that the conservatives, for such a long time haven't really been able to articulate a vision that's really, that's really struck people as being distinctly conservative. and they've been ceding votes, as we've seen, to the right to a putative party of reform that's now really got, you know, got going under farage again. and also obviously in so—called blue wall to the liberal democrats, let alone to labour. >> it's a gift, isn't it? he's tried to labour party, which simply must just carry on not being risky and just sit there and hoover up all the support from the voters. >> i mean, i don't know if i agree with this. not risky. i think what we're doing is going to be quite radical. i mean, i work in schools with kids with mental health needs. and i'm going to say there's a crisis going to say there's a crisis going on in our schools. and this hits, you know, people we care about. >> if you're a granny, this document here is extremely limited . this is the labour limited. this is the labour manifesto. it says change on it. it should said no change on it.

>> well i mean i'm not sure. well in this country that we live in, if we're talking about this manifesto and the change that's going to come, i think it's going to be radical. 8500 new mental health workers. let's get a transform children's lives, an increase in the number of teachers in our schools. i was in the doctor's surgery today just for something routine and the doctor's like, we need laboun >> how many per school is it? i mean , it's not a lot. it's1 >> how many per school is it? i mean , it's not a lot. it's 1 or mean, it's not a lot. it's 1 or 2 per school. how will that change? >> it's more than what we had last week. it's more than what we had last week. and this is the thing. listen, i agree with you. it's going to be step by step. you know, it is step by step. you know, it is step by step. but 1.5 million new homes, you know, for lots of people who can't get, you know, there wherever you look on the housing ladden wherever you look on the housing ladder, i don't know what the saying is. that's going to that's going to change lives. you know, even, you know, the fact that people are waiting months and months and months for nhs appointments, even gp appointments, two weeks, we're going to come on to labour in detail in a moment. >> but this, this, this, have you seen this, this this document? i mean, it is it is

costed in the sense that they're saving billions from the welfare budget and spending most of it on tax cuts. so the offer is clear. but some of the way they're raising money is questionable because they're raising it from closing the tax gap.the raising it from closing the tax gap. the gap between money owed to the exchequer and what they receive, and also cracking down on welfare reform. both those areas are difficult to raise money from. i think all of the parties are guilty of talking a great deal about having costed their aspirations, but the word aspiration is quite key to this because they're either based on things that, as you say, are a kind of future hopes that they can raise the money from them, or they're based on the idea of future growth, which of course, isn't guaranteed, so, i mean, a great deal of store is put by journalists in this idea of things being costed, but i think thatis things being costed, but i think that is only really one part of how we should scrutinise these ideas, there's a document here called the costings document, which is where they set out these five years of spending . these five years of spending. you might the problem with he seems very unlucky to me. i think the pm, he announced an election in the rain . things election in the rain. things keep happening to him don't they. just most recently, one of

his aides in parliament allegedly may have put some money on the date of the election that there might be an investigation. today, we learn that the gambling regulator has got in touch with him to find out what happened. i mean, it keeps things keep happening. >> it does. >> it does. >> and the only way he was going to win the election, i think, is if he had a complete, clear run at it and nothing went wrong and everything went right for six weeks. yeah, i mean, i, i kind of feel sorry for him, kind of, but i also think you know, it just, you know, i was i was doing some googling today and, you know, him and his wife, they're very wealthy people. >> if he doesn't win, he's probably going to go off to california, though. >> forget that. i can't bear this nonsense about money. honestly, i just think it's not fair on him because. >> no, what i'm saying to you is i do. i do genuinely feel a bit sorry for him because it does feel like he's had a lot of bad luck. but i suppose what i'm saying is he's probably not going to win and he's not going to be left, i don't know, depressed without a job in a house, you know, he's got another future ahead of him. >> i was i was with him on

wednesday on his campaign bus. he said he's pumped. he's ready. he's you can't fault him for enthusiasm. yeah. just it's not working. i mean, i do see things on twitter about him. the i think people just don't understand what it's like. he is a guy who could be earning millions in the private sector. yeah.i millions in the private sector. yeah. i mean, it's not he's doing his best for his country, but it's not working. >> yeah. no, i mean, i totally agree with you on that point. >> i do think there are lots of reasons to criticise rishi sunak's premiership, but not whether or not he's personally a wealthy man and if anything, actually it reflects well on him that he hasn't just carried on with wealth creation for his own benefit, that he has actually invested his time in public service. but the thing is, it really started to go wrong for him. i think, you know, around the time of the, of the last conservative party conference when , when he could have really when, when he could have really started to introduce some, radical, exciting policies and he came in with things like, you know, that obscure smoking ban thing which he hasn't even seen, through which no one in the tory party was talking about. >> is it time for some sort of arrangement, a deal with nigel farage's party and the poll last

night from yougov had, i think, reform on 18, tories on 17. and i think the, the labour on 35. you had the figures. >> i think that idea is, is completely completely irrelevant actually, because even if the conservatives wanted to do it, why should nigel farage do it? you know, he's got the wind in his sails right now. part of his great, his great sell is that he's there to replace the conservative party so i can't see that there's anything in it for him at all. >> onto labour then. i mean, here is a document that interview i did with him on the bus. just goodness. yesterday yesterday afternoon. i'm so exhausted. yesterday afternoon in the in the car park at crewe alexandra. i was so surprised by that because when he was booed on at the sky debate on wednesday, i thought it was the audience was saying, oh, give oven audience was saying, oh, give over, we know your dad worked in the factory and was a toolmaker, but he got really spiky and said, no, no, i'm sick of people attacking my dad . he's clearly attacking my dad. he's clearly grown up with his dad being, being, being feeling. he's

embarrassed about being a factory worker. yeah, and he's sick of that . and he took it sick of that. and he took it very personally. and people were saying to me all day, that was a really incisive moment with him. yeah. >> i mean, interestingly , i've >> i mean, interestingly, i've listened to his autobiography and there's a whole side of him that i tumbled in one. yeah, it's a whole side of him i didn't know. and you know, he had a mum who was obviously severely disabled. and then, you know , it came to that point know, it came to that point where they they didn't have friends round to their house because they were embarrassed. and, you know, they really struggled. and then his, their social circle little by little and you know, and i think ultimately, you know, there was great difficulty in that for them as a family. you know, i mean , i didn't even know that mean, i didn't even know that about him until about two months ago. >> he seems quite managerial. and then in the heart of him is kind of a burning furnace of he's a bit cross about stuff. yeah. mocking his dad. that annoys him. yeah. the i again he was asked it wasn't he would you use private health care if one of his relatives was seriously ill waiting on a list? no he wouldn't yeah, i don't, i don't believe, by the way. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, would you, if you

could afford it, would you not put your child through private health care? i mean, get them treated. >> i mean, look, i'm i'm more in the place of let's transform the nhs. of course, i've got lots of. >> i'm interrogating the idea of our next prime minister. >> possibly. yeah. i mean, look, i think the interestingly, one of my friends is a senior consultant in the nhs, and i was saying to her what does it need? what does it need? and she said to me two days ago, actually, susie, a lot of it's morale. we feel so beaten down. we need morale. do you know what i mean? and it's that thing, isn't it? hope. excitement. there's a better day. and so, you know, i would rather move to let's invest in our nhs. and that doesn't just mean money. that means reform and that means encouragement and whatnot. so yeah, i can't answer that for keirjoanne. keir joanne. >> i mean, keirjoanne. >> i mean, susie's right. right. and the labour party of all the parties has the permission to reform the nhs. i think the tories are always in a crouch ever since, really. david cameron said he wouldn't touch the nhs back in 2005, and since then the party has just chucked money into it and it hasn't really got the results they want. >> i mean, that is so true and

actually the logic of that has clearly been grasped by, by mr streeting. yeah, and yet it seems to have been lost on his party leader . party leader. >> i thought that he says, of course, famously i will use all the private expertise i can to clear that the backlog . what clear that the backlog. what about sir keir starmer? but he's they're, they're they will say we're not going to tell others how they how to get treated. he's saying a personal choice by him. yeah. >> i mean, of course it's a personal choice by him. but but isn't part of trying to get to the heart of these particular politicians . when you see their politicians. when you see their instinct and it comes out so clearly like that, i think it's fair to say that can inform their own political priorities. so what we saw there was somebody who ideologically is very wedded to a very traditional and unreconstructed form of health care in this country. that is fascinating and exactly vie and also somebody who is very ambivalent about his own record about jeremy corbyn

and yet seemed to be, you know, in his heart, he seemed to be chiming with a sort of corbyn part of the party. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> i mean, that was a real moment, too, when he said, when he was asked, wasn't he? in the interviews, i think on sky he was asked about, you know, you backed jeremy corbyn in 2019. you know, why was that? and, and he says, well, i didn't think he's going to win. i mean that was a bit i'm going to be honest. >> let's just be honest. for all of us, it was a bit like an oppressive regime. >> are you a corbynista? no, no. but you you probably campaigned, though, within to get the party back, but you campaigned for him in 2019, so you're. no, i didn't, didn't you. >> okay. no. i mean i'm going to be honest with you. a lot of us suffered under that. and i you know, what i find really interesting is lots of conservatives and labour people came together under that because i think we all just saw none of us are like this. none of us want this extremity in our country. one of the things that makes us great as a country is we're not like that. and what you saw was, look, you've got george osborne and ed balls doing their thing together, and you know us of about half

enjoying it. and robert halfon said to me, oh, susie, will you shake my hand at a funeral? when i said, robert, i've got more in common with you than some of the extreme. >> we saw angela rayner and penny mordaunt getting on very well after one of those seven way debates, because basically behind they are opponents but not enemies is the point. >> it's part of respect, isn't it? in this nation we're different, you know, we get on with each other. we may not. we challenge each other, but we get on. >> so you thank you. thank you joanne. we're going to move on now. now next we will be talking to two candidates from parties claiming they become could the opposition july july the july the 4th general july the 4th general election, july the 4th general election, three weeks a day. lib

and we're back now to ed davey wacky hijinks aside, the lib dems do have some policy pledges . the party announced them at a warehouse in a trendy part of london's east end on monday. the party vowed that it would rejoin the eu single market scrap the rwanda scheme and give 60 year

olds a vote. the lib dems also pledged to give everybody the right to flexible working and more than double the amount of capital gains tax paid by top earners. so talk us through all the detail and much more . is earners. so talk us through all the detail and much more. is lib dem parliamentary hopeful christine jardine ? christine, christine jardine? christine, thank you for joining christine jardine? christine, thank you forjoining me on gb news tonight. great to see you. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> you're welcome. >> your leader , are you >> your leader, are you comfortable with the way he's deporting himself ? deporting himself? >> yes, of course i am. you know , ed has been our most successful leader in something like 30 years. we've been more successful at by elections . successful at by elections. we've won four by elections in this parliament. most successful since the parliament immediately before the last labour government. we beat the conservatives at the last round of local elections. we've had six successful rounds of local elections and a lot of that is down to the work that ed davey has done now you're talking about the protocols that accompanied our announcements of policies, things like lake

windermere, where he was paddle boarding. that was to draw attention to the fact that important stretches of water, bathing water like lake windermere have been contaminated by raw sewage being dumped by the water companies. and we have a policy to deal with that. we want to reform that situation. we want to stop that. so that is why he was doing it. and if you saw a party election broadcast, we have had fantastic response from the pubuc fantastic response from the public to that first party election broadcast where ed talked about being a carer for his son john, and when he was young, for his mother and how he can empathise with the situation that so many people in this country find themselves in. now that's the ed davey that we know in the liberal democrats. that's the ed davey who is standing again for parliament, who is our leader, of whom we are immensely proud, and who the public can see is a man who, you know, he takes his politics very seriously. he takes caring and carers very seriously. he wants

to save our nhs, but he doesn't take himself seriously . take himself seriously. >> yes, there is that and i guess he's getting pictures. we're playing out on air today and of course in the newspapers. and those go with articles. we're talking about it and maybe that's what works . but is he that's what works. but is he what is the lib dem? what does it for ? stand i was there at the it for? stand i was there at the launch of the manifesto and it struck me the party's facing both ways. it's defining itself, both ways. it's defining itself, both as anti—tory and anti—labour. but what's it for ? anti—labour. but what's it for? >> we're now facing both ways. we are facing forward , we're we are facing forward, we're looking to the future, and we're looking to the future, and we're looking to the future, and we're looking to a future in which our nhs continues to play a massive part . we want to save the nhs part. we want to save the nhs and social care and support carers, and we want to invest money in creating more gps, creating more dentists, getting health professionals , mental health professionals, mental health professionals, mental health professionals, mental health professionals into every school in the country paid for it by an increase in the, digital media tax. now that's what we stand for. we stand for

looking after people. we stand for saving the nhs, for creating a fair deal for everyone in this country. that's what we stand for. >> what does success look like in this election? christine jardine, you could be as you could be, the second party. i mean, the polls all over the place. let's disregard today's one about reform uk. but you could be the second party, the leader of the your party could be the main party in parliament against a huge , labour against a huge, labour government with many mps. >> well, as you said yourself, the opinion polls are all over the opinion polls are all over the place and you and i both know that actually, at the end of the day, they don't matter. what matters is how people vote on the 4th of july. and the only poll that matters is that poll on the 4th of july. that's what we're focusing on. success for us looks like increasing the number of liberal democrat mps in parliament. ideally we'd like to get back into that third slot that we held for so many years and we were so effective in and that the snp , frankly, have just

that the snp, frankly, have just used to trumpet independence rather than working for the people who got them there. so that's what success looks for us. increased representation, increased influence, a louder voice in parliament for those people who don't want to be represented by the labour party or the conservative party, they have good, strong local champions and the liberal democrat mp and they want to hear that. >> and that's the point. christine jardine, it is about local champions not electing a government almost . what is the government almost. what is the point of a liberal democrats in that sense? because the other two main parties will actually do what they say they'll do in the manifesto, whereas what you've got here is a series of demands and pressure points you can exert on a on a government in power . in power. >> you say that, but we were the first party to talk about the problem with sewage being dumped and who took it up, the labour party. we talked about a windfall tax and the labour party put it up. now, if we're not actually a proper windfall tax like we wanted, but, you know, they took it up and then the conservatives took it up. if

you have a loud liberal democrat voice in parliament, we are holding the other parties to account. we are putting forward our our ideas and putting pressure on them by saying, why are you not doing this? why are you not, putting mental health professionals in every school? why are you not recruiting gps? why are you not recruiting gps? why are you not recruiting gps? why are you not reforming the gp contract so that they don't feel forced to retire? because it will cost them money to carry on working? why are you training people in the medical profession and then they're going abroad? why are you not encouraging them to stay here? that's the difference it makes. that's what we are for. we are for getting these things done, putting pressure on the other parties. if we are not in government, getting them to do it. and we've been very successful at that. >> christine jardine, thank you for joining us tonight on gb news. great to see you. thank you so much . now news. great to see you. thank you so much. now i'm back news. great to see you. thank you so much . now i'm back here you so much. now i'm back here with jo—anne nadler and susie stride. joanne nadler, the lib dems always annoyed the main parties. don't the two main parties. don't the two main parties because they can say all these things and hoover up discontent in different ways around the country ? around the country? >> yes. i mean, i think they are going to do considerably better

this time round than at the previous election, and i think they are going to take seats off they are going to take seats off the conservatives. and what i referred to earlier as the blue wall, those, those southern seats where they're running in second place, south west. yeah, yeah, exactly . and i think that yeah, exactly. and i think that the escapades that we've seen ed davey take part in have actually been pretty effective. i mean, dunng been pretty effective. i mean, during the first week i thought, oh my goodness , this is so oh my goodness, this is so undignified, but i've got to handit undignified, but i've got to hand it to him. it's definitely drawn attention to his party, but he's drawn attention to the party in a way that thinks, distracted from what they're really all about . and if they really all about. and if they end up as being, very much the alternative opposition to a labour government, then i think we're going to see them just adding fuel to the fire under all the sort of constitutional reforms that labour want to push through and one thing i would have liked to have asked against those, aren't you, i suppose i absolutely am, because i think they're actually very anti—democratic in many ways. but the thing i would have

wanted to put to to the lisa jardine was really their policy on gender and the fact that, like labour and like all the other parties that we've heard from apart from reform, they seem to be in favour of making gender reassignment more easy andindeed gender reassignment more easy and indeed of promoting self—id again. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so that's an area which the tories have pushed quite hard in their manifesto on the issue of gender id and self id. yeah what's your take on on the way that ed davey is being campaigned, he combined a kind of joker persona with a serious, interviews about his son being a carer of his son john, and for his mother when she was alive , his mother when she was alive, and put social care and nhs at the heart of his campaign, yeah. >> i mean, i watched that video of him and his son. i'm going to be honest, it actually made me cry. you know , i thought it was cry. you know, i thought it was very powerful, was powerful. i've not met, sir ed davey. but, you know, there's like, there's lots of respect there, you know, in that regard, my concern with the lib dems is, i think if you

vote conservative, what you see is what you get. like they're saying, this is what we're going to do. i think with the lib dems, i just don't i mean, look people voted for them in 2010. then they went into coalition. they didn't deliver half the things they said they were going to do. you know, children, they broke things they said they would do, like student loans, you know what i mean? so i'm just i'm a bit like i mean, genuinely, you know, i have, you know, respect for people that have integrity. and my concern with the lib dems is just genuinely, genuinely, you know, what you see is that what you get? you know, people voted for him in 2010. children's centres closed , youth clubs closed. the closed, youth clubs closed. the nhs had massive cuts. those were tory austerity cuts. >> they were blamed on lib dems. >> they were blamed on lib dems. >> they were blamed on lib dems. >> they didn't put in their manifesto. they didn't have to go with the conservatives. and that's another debate they could have gone with, with the labour party. and for me, i'm just like, you know, i'm not sure what you get from voting lib dem and what you definitely don't get is change because they're not going to be in power. you know, this is a two party system and we can have a wider debate about that . but voting lib dem, about that. but voting lib dem, you're not going to get any of the things they're promising for

because you're not going to see them in number 10. so i mean, i'm personally for vote labour or conservative, you know, that's the way i would go. >> you stride jo—anne nadler. thank you. now join us tomorrow morning for a very special programme here on gb news. andrew pierce and ellie costello will be presenting live coverage of trooping the colour from 10 am. tomorrow morning on gb a.m. tomorrow morning on gb news. but next we'll reform uk, receive upward of 6 million votes. yes, 6 million votes at the general election. and can they turn those votes into what really matters? mps we'll be joined by their business and agricultural spokesman , rupert agricultural spokesman, rupert lowe. next. you're with christopher live the tonight on

gb news. and we're back now. reform uk's manifesto , which it's calling manifesto, which it's calling a contract with the people, is launched on monday in the welsh

valleys. as it happens, some of the party's pledges have already been announced , such as a freeze been announced, such as a freeze on non—essential, whatever that means . migration and the. and an means. migration and the. and an increase in the income tax personal allowance to £20,000. now, yesterday, the upstart right wing party even overtook the tory party in the polls , the tory party in the polls, which nigel farage, its new leader, was quick to announce dunng leader, was quick to announce during itv's election debate last night. so the party is increasingly and rapidly becoming a bigger deal. but what more can we expect from it? on monday ? with me now is rupert monday? with me now is rupert lowe, reform uk parliamentary candidate and the party's spokesman for business and agriculture, rupert welcome . agriculture, rupert welcome. does reform have any more tricks up its sleeve? on monday i we wrote a lot christopher i think our manifesto we don't call it manifesto. >> we call it a contract with the people because most of the big parties, they don't take their manifestos seriously. as you know, every five years the

voters have a little bit of power and they make these ridiculous promises in their manifesto , which they then can manifesto, which they then can continue. they then continually break. so now ours is a contract with the people, and ours is for real. and when i showed it to , real. and when i showed it to, simon heffer when i spoke at a lunch, he described it as thatcherite in construct. so i'm very proud of that , i, i played very proud of that, i, i played a part in the business, the agriculture and the fisheries, policy, the draft policy and quite rightly, obviously, when he came back, nigel farage wanted to cast his eye over it. so i think we're going to see a very comprehensive, man, well, contract with the people, which will, i think, bring common sense to bear. it's designed to reward those people who work, it's hopefully going to address the fact that since 2000, our national debt has risen from 564 billion to 2.77 trillion. yep, which i think we're now we're

now in a national crisis, christopher. so what we have to do is unleash the british people, the individual, and we have to shrink the state because it's the state that is our problem. it's not it's not all this nonsense that we hear about, you know, tax evaders and everything else. we're all taxed into oblivion, and ultimately, it's this state. and i saw a wonderful picture the other day of a very thin little taxpayer riding a bicycle at the front and a great, fat, bloated state on the back, having a free ride, eating a very large mcdonald's hamburger. i thought that's sort of almost summed it up well. it's got a lot. i'm so i'm quite clear. i'm you know, we're going to do things that are common sense , that are fair, they're sense, that are fair, they're going to empower people. and i'm very proud to have played a part in, in trying to ensure that , in, in trying to ensure that, you know, we do that. >> the idea of reducing the size of the stake is something which the tory party certainly understand post—covid. they want to try and bring back the civil service to where it was, pre 20, 2019 and also the case, i think, with other other elements such

as as benefit, money going money going into benefit, benefit cheats. one, one question rupert. just you me talking echr will the party commit to wanting to leave it? >> well , christopher, to leave it? >> well, christopher, i mean, i'm quite clear on this and i've spoken about it. you know, i spoken about it. you know, i spoke about it on tuesday when l, spoke about it on tuesday when i, when i was in my norfolk constituency, which nigel visited, which i'm not allowed to mention for electoral reasons, and i'm quite clear and a lot of this rot, in fact, most of this rot started with the labour party under blair brown , labour party under blair brown, campbell and mandelson, who i call the four horsemen of the apocalypse and buried within the human rights act of 1998, as you probably know, is the echr so what boris failed to do when we handed him an 80 seat majority was to actually repeal these venal acts like the human rights act like the equality act, all the sort of things we'll forget about gordon brown selling all our gold. that's another thing they did. so it's actually labour started the rot. yes. rupert and i haven't got tories

didn't reverse that. so yeah, but i'm interested in your party. >> will you try and reverse it as a question to you? and you're not answering? >> well, i think in reality what we've got to do, christopher, is we've got to do, christopher, is we've got. and by the way , we've got. and by the way, what's happening in the constituencies, i don't think westminster has any idea what's going on on the ground. i mean, i'm on the ground quite a lot, as you'd imagine. and you know, people are saying enough is enough. they've had enough of this deficient government we've got in westminster, the bloated civil service is not delivering, you know, the unbalanced budgets that we've got. so what they're doing is that this is a once in a hundred year occasion when i think the universe flips through, you know, 300, 180 degrees, and we actually see a major change. so i'm, i'm confident that we will pole far more than the current polls are showing. so where where people people want change. and the only way they're going to get change is to elect some reform mps ,

is to elect some reform mps, build a bridgehead in parliament. and now , as nigel parliament. and now, as nigel said today, a vote for the tories is a for vote labour, because what we need to do is we need to build a sensible opposition to labour, because labour look at labour. i mean, where's david lammy, the guy who makes all the noise and talks complete rubbish? i mean, he's been kept very quiet, but, you know, they're still they're festering away in the background. as i've just said, most of the problems we've got stem from the tony blair era and keir starmer and his merry band. >> i've got to go. i've got one last question for you. quick. yes or no answer. an easy one. should nigel farage do a deal with rishi sunak and fight on a ticket to oppose labour at the election ? election? >> no, nigel. nigel stood down in 2019 and gifted the tories an 80 seat majority and i asked them what did they achieve with it? and you know what? we haven't got brexit. they haven't reversed all the rules that have been forced upon us and they've delivered, as i call it, absolute diddly squat ads. that's what they've delivered.

ads >> well, we'll hear more. we'll hear less ads and more policies , hear less ads and more policies, i'm sure, on monday, action and less ads . less ads. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> in the welsh valleys. rupert low, thank you for joining us tonight on gb news. let's get reaction now from our guest tonight, joanne nadler, the conservative commentator, and suzy stride for labour. jo—anne nadler you heard there, there's a fury from rupert lowe about almost tory party inefficiency to deal get, get the best out of brexit. that's almost a kind of, for me, an anguished tory voter there. but he's, of course, a reform uk spokesman. >> yeah, absolutely . well, of >> yeah, absolutely. well, of course we are seeing a lot of conservative former conservatives, conservative supporters feeling that they have a natural affinity with a lot of what reform is talking about. hence the situation. what i would say about that interview that i thought was very interesting is we're beginning to see a semblance there of some kind of attack that, or strategy that reform could use in opposing labour because they are

positioning themselves now as being the opposition to labour. but most of the opposition we've heard from reform thus far has beenin heard from reform thus far has been in opposition to the conservatives so that was interesting to hear him talk about the human rights act, the equalities act, things like that, sorry i'm pressed for time, but quickly. >> susie, is joanne right? the reform will be a problem for labour as much as the tory party. >> i mean, they may well be, but i was just thinking then what is my problem with reform? because i've just tried to put my finger on it and i think this, you know, you're saying all the state, the state and i'm just thinking my mum's at home watching this, who, you know, brought up in poverty stricken household in east london, three of her kids went to cambridge. she went back to university but was stacking, you know, her shelves in asda's when i was a kid and actually it was interventions that helped changed her life and my life. and i'm like , whether that comes and i'm like, whether that comes through the state or the charity sector or modern day philanthropy, i don't care, but i don't. there's a lack of compassion or understanding. i don't get it. i just don't get it. but i really hope people watch that and think, look, i think nigel farage farage speaks a bit of a genius. he just cuts

through, doesn't he? but there's a lack of compassion, a lack of understanding. and, you know, i hope people don't vote for them. i really do, you know. >> well, thank you both. now, more than 130 mps are standing down at this election, a staggering figure, not a figure, not seen since 1997. after the break, we have veteran conservative sir john redwood with us to talk his to leave the house of commons

and we're back now. on july the 5th, 650 new mps will be elected back to parliament. the day will also mark a new era for those who have decided to stand down. more than 130 mps, many of them tories, decided not to contest their seats at this time. on a friday evening we'll be speaking with one of them from other parties across the political spectrum. tonight it's sir john redwood, the former cabinet minister who will not stand for election in wokingham for the

first time since 1987. goodness me. during his 37 years as an mp, sir john was twice an unsuccessful candidate for the leadership of the tory party back in the 1990s. he subsequently served in the shadow cabinets of william hague and michael howard, now aged 72. although he's 73 tomorrow, he's decided he has other things to do. sirjohn, decided he has other things to do. sir john, welcome to decided he has other things to do. sirjohn, welcome to gb do. sir john, welcome to gb news. great to see you. >> good evening, are you concerned at all about the lack of tax cuts in your party's manifesto ? manifesto? >> well, i'm concerned that i want us to have a popular and good offering which will attract more votes than the current polls say. and as you will know, i've been developing in recent years an agenda for greater growth based around lower tax rates and fewer taxes, but more tax revenue because of the growth and the success that a different policy would bring.

and out of parliament, i want to develop these ideas. i'm not going away. i'm not going to lose my voice. indeed, i want to strengthen my voice. and one of the advantages of not being an mp after 37 years of the privilege of serving the people of wokingham, is that now you can have john redwood's views without john redwood having to think about what all the people of wokingham believe and think and reflect their views to some extent. in the case that i'm putting, i can now develop my own case based on the experience i've got from many years of observing successive, governments conservative, conservative, liberal and labour and the awful cycles we've been through over my whole adult lifetime with a bank of england that has been a wrecking ball on so many occasions, and most notably recently with its great inflation. and then its mini recession and with a treasury and now an obr that have dreadful forecasts and recommend a way of controlling the economy

that produces very bad answers. i'm very impatient with it and i want to use my freedom to get over that . there are better over that. there are better ways, and it's very urgent for this country . ways, and it's very urgent for this country. has major reform of its economic policy in the handung of its economic policy in the handling of its bank of england. >> that's right. and, sirjohn, >> that's right. and, sir john, you have a very good blog in which you lay out this, this, this stuff in intemperate and angry terms, and some would say, rightly so. i think. how do you feel about your leader, rishi sunak? i feel a bit sorry for people like yourself. you're given two days notice to wrap up your stuff and shake hands with the speaker in the commons, then you're out the door and others like , you know, i'm thinking of like, you know, i'm thinking of tories mainly like sir bill cash . maybe theresa may of many decades service were given virtually no warning of the end of their parliamentary careers as mps. >> no, we weren't consulted and it was a surprise and i pride myself on normally being able to forecast events, but i didn't see that one coming. it seemed to me so obvious that we would

run on till about november or december , where i'd been working december, where i'd been working closely with ministers in the government and the prime minister and his officials on projects that really took several months to roll out, because i felt it would be better if the conservative party demonstrated competence for a penod demonstrated competence for a period of months in the tax cutting direction , in control. cutting direction, in control. >> so why go for it? >> so why go for it? >> migration direction. so i was amazed when we went for an early election. yeah. >> i mean and i'm still amazed. i think the idea was it was on the promise of future things that government might do, but they they gave away the advantage of a nato summit in washington, a big event in blenheim with eu leaders, you know, maybe two interest rate cuts before november. all these ideas that may have helped them in the polls. they've given away that labour, labour may get the benefit from. >> no. i was very much sketching out for them and the wider pubuc out for them and the wider public how i thought the economy could improve quite a lot this yean could improve quite a lot this year, and we are definitely due interest rate reductions. we are due a fundamental rethink by the

bank of england over their disgraceful losses on bonds, where the losses should and could be reduced and relieved some of the pressures on our budgets and above all, the government rightly adopted ideas i and others put forward at the beginning of the year on legal migration. we've been pressing for it for many months before that, but they put the policies in place in january. legal migration is now coming down, but i think it would be much better if we'd had many months of good report showing that they not only wanted to do this , but not only wanted to do this, but they were bringing it about because i think the very high levels of migration have put too much pressure on housing and pubuc much pressure on housing and public services, and it's one of the reasons for anger amongst former conservatives. >> do you forgive me, john? i want to wish you all the best in your future career. my time is up on gb news tonight. thanks to all my guests tonight and to my great panel, jo—anne nadler and susie stride next up, it's friday night with live with mark dolan off the weather with aidan mcgivern .

mcgivern. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. further showers are expected over the next 24 hours and beyond, with prolonged rain at times , but prolonged rain at times, but also some clear spells in between the downpours. low pressure is currently stationed to the west northwest of scotland and around that low we've got a gusty wind bringing frequent showers into much of the uk, but also some longer spells of rain. one such area of rain affecting northern scotland through the evening, and then another band of rain pushing into northern ireland, parts of wales and the southwest during the early hours. so a lively night to come with some heavy rain at times and that gusty wind, but some clear spells as well, and where we've got the clear spells, temperatures dipping into the single figures or even the mid single figures in some of the cooler spots. for example central scotland. but for the north of scotland we keep the wet weather going on

saturday morning, particularly for shetland, some outbreaks of rain there for orkney, but for much of the mainland of scotland it's dry. best of the sunshine of the day will be in the morning on saturday. thicker cloud into southern scotland, northern england and this band of rain just affecting parts of northern ireland into the midlands. the south east as well. some heavy downpours before a mix of sunny spells and blustery showers push into south wales and the southwest of england that develops more widely across the uk. so really it's a case of bright spells and heavy showers out there on saturday afternoon. you certainly will need your umbrella at hand if you're heading out. even if it's sunny when you leave the house. but there will be some longer spells of rain, particularly for northwest england. southern scotland, for example , and even scotland, for example, and even some thunderstorms out there. so an unpleasant day for many places. highs of 17 or 18 celsius. sunday starts off a little brighter and drier across england and wales. scotland and northern ireland sees a band of rain pushed south that breaks up to become more of a showery feature into the afternoon . and

feature into the afternoon. and in between the showers there will be some sunshine once again a drying up trend, then into monday and tuesday, with fewer showers and a better chance of some sunshine. looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sperm chances of weather

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