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disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me in the cancelled. so joining me in the next hour is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and also editor at large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. in a few moments , we'll be going a few moments, we'll be going head to head in the clash with writer, columnist and journalist emma woolf and also political commentatorjonathan ellis emma woolf and also political commentator jonathan ellis . commentatorjonathan ellis. right. coming up nana nigel, why theatres and drama schools are being offered plus size inclusivity training . really? inclusivity training. really? then five my outside guest now she's a journalist and a former editor for the daily star newspaper . can you guess who she newspaper. can you guess who she is? come on. and then in my election dream, in my electric dream, katie hopkins gives her view in my clip debate, debate . view in my clip debate, debate. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines with sam . with sam. >> gnaana, thank you very much. good afternoon to you. it's just after 3:00. the top stories from

the newsroom this afternoon. german police have shot a man who was armed with an axe at a euro fan zone in hamburg. officers say the suspect was also carrying a molotov cocktail, which he tried to light before approaching several people, including police officers. that incident happened dunng officers. that incident happened during a dutch fans parade ahead of the clash between the netherlands and poland. the attacker is now being treated for his injuries. former police sergeant harry tanger says security is tight and authorities are still well prepared. >> if you're in a public area and somebody's got an axe or a knife, if they're very aggressive and mobile , there's aggressive and mobile, there's amazing how much damage. as we already know from a previous germany attack, how many people can be hurt and even killed, if you can't isolate that person away from the public or isolate the public away from that individual , the public away from that individual, well, then that

leaves very few options. so they're thinking about it . they're thinking about it. they're not just running around thinking, come right, let's find this guy and shoot him. and what is the most minimum force we can use which does not put the pubuc use which does not put the public or other officers at risk? >> meanwhile, security has been stepped up for the championships as england prepares to play serbia in gelsenkirchen. gelsenkirchen tonight , hundreds gelsenkirchen tonight, hundreds of thousands of fans are expected to travel to germany throughout the tournament. manager gareth southgate says that he expects everyone to still enjoy the game, but police in the country have now been put on high alert for the duration of the rest of the event over fears of possible fan violence and terror attacks . back here at and terror attacks. back here at home, the tories are being warned that they could face electoral extinction, with polling firm savanta saying time is close to running out for the prime minister in a separate poll for the times, survation says the conservatives could have the lowest ever vote share under rishi sunaks leadership, predicting the party will win

just 72 seats in next month's election. it's also forecasting labouris election. it's also forecasting labour is on course to take 456 seats, surpassing their 1997 landslide, and reform uk expected to get seven seats. transport secretary mark harper told us this morning the conservatives, though, are still up for the fight. >> nobody's voted in this election yet and we also know from the polls if we're going to quote them, a record number of people. i think 44% of the electorate haven't yet made up their minds about who they're going to vote for. it's exactly the reason why we come on shows like yours to make the case about a conservative government with the programme that we've set out for lower taxes, dealing with migration , a fully costed with migration, a fully costed programme for government , well, programme for government, well, health is at the forefront of the labour and liberal democrats election campaigning today, after accusing the conservatives of creating what they've called a crisis in cancer care, sir keir starmer is promising to cut cancer waiting lists to double

ct and mri scanners and provide 40,000 extra nhs appointments each week . each week. >> meanwhile, the lib dems are proposing a £1 billion boost for radiotherapy equipment, which would add 200 machines to cut waiting times . sir davey, who's waiting times. sir davey, who's personally affected by cancer, also wants to see a legal guarantee that patients would receive treatment within 62 days of an urgent referral . ukraine of an urgent referral. ukraine has been told the european union will stand by the country for as long as it takes to secure peace. the majority of 90 countries to take part in a two day summit in switzerland have supported the final declaration . supported the final declaration. they're calling for nuclear plant and ports to be secured under ukraine's control, and for food not to be weaponized and for all prisoners of war to be released. president volodymyr zelenskyy says he's now hoping for quick results . for quick results. >> we don't have time for prolonged work. moving to peace means acting fast. preparations

will take months, not years. so when the action plans for peace are ready and when every step is worked out, the path will be open for the second peace summit and thus for ending this war for and thus for ending this war for a just and lasting peace . a just and lasting peace. >> and finally, some royal news for you. kensington palace has released a new photograph of prince william and his three children to mark father's day. it was taken by princess catherine in norfolk last month and has been shared with a special message from prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis saying we love you, papa and earlier, the prince of wales shared his own throwback photo together with the king, taken in 1984, when william was just a toddler. it shows him playing football with his dad in the gardens of kensington palace . for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your

screen or go to our website gb news. common alerts now though, let's return to . nana. let's return to. nana. >> thank you simon. right. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00 before we get stuck into the debates over the next houn into the debates over the next hour, let me introduce you to my clashes. joining me today is writer, columnist and journalist emma wolf. and also political commentatorjonathan lis. they commentator jonathan lis. they will commentatorjonathan lis. they will be going head to head on the menu. the conservative party are facing electoral extinction. that's according to a new poll. the recent savanta poll states it's the lowest vote share since the end of theresa may's premiership, and represents labour's largest lead since rishi sunak became prime minister. the conservatives are urging the labour party to reject the possibility of new taxes on homes, as the tories state they are concerned about the potential new council tax , the potential new council tax, band rate increases and cuts to discounts and exemptions and council tax revaluation, which could happen under a labour government. next on the menu,

the number of children attending private schools in england has apparently risen. that seems to be despite the claims that families are being priced out over the fears of labour's plans to add vat to school fees. but what does this actually mean for the election, and how did they calculate that poll and recent forecasts on global crude oil demand vary ? they all point to demand vary? they all point to one fact that achieving net zero emissions by 2050 is looking unlikely . so is net zero a pipe unlikely. so is net zero a pipe dream and yesterday the council celebrated trooping the colour for the first time in over 100 years. soldiers participating were permitted to wear beards. well, that's quite interesting , well, that's quite interesting, isn't it? tell me what you think on everything we're discussing as ever, send me your thoughts. gbnews.com forward slash your say. right. but first it's time for my election connection because what's happening here is we are getting the sense that there will be a landslide labour victory for this next coming

election. is that dangerous? okay, so the two pollsters are savanta and survation. and first let's take a look at the labour party and what the polling says about them. now, apparently, according to the survation poll, the labour party will achieve 456 seats. that's a huge that's a huge amount of seats, a massive majority . let's take massive majority. let's take a look at what the seven day poll says, though , well, they're says, though, well, they're saying that 46% of people are intending to vote labour as well. so that is a huge swing towards the labour party. but what about the tory party? how does polling look for them? let's have a look. okay, so the conservatives are on on course to win 72 seats. now that is one of the lowest sets of seats they've ever had . that is they've ever had. that is according to the survation poll. but let's have a look at what savanta say, they're saying that people only 21% of people actually intend to vote for the conservative party right now.

but let's be fair. there are a lot of people who are undecided at this stage, and even some who are saying they are voting labour are wobbling. right. let's take a look at the liberal democrats. the liberal democrats are on course, apparently to win 56 seats. that is according to a survation poll that's actually a pretty good polling for them as it goes. but in terms of voting intention, what does this what does the savanta poll say ? well, does the savanta poll say? well, 11% of people are suggesting that they may well vote for the liberal democrats . right. next liberal democrats. right. next up, reform uk, seven seats. now, a lot of people weren't expecting that. in fact , a lot expecting that. in fact, a lot of polling had said that they'd only get 2 or 3. but here on the survation poll, it's saying seven seats, in terms of voting intention, about 13, according to savanta say that there is an intention for people to vote reform as ever, it's a very rocky time. lots of things are changing. next up we have the greens. they are on track to have one seat. that is according to the official poll. but how many people are actually intend

to vote for them? well, on the savanta poll, the voting intention for the greens is at 4. now, as we know with this election fever , lots of things election fever, lots of things are changing. lots of hot potatoes going on as we speak. all of this could change. have we got next? let's see. oh that's it, that's it. right. well, listen, next up let's go to tom harwood and find out his thoughts on a potential labour landslide. >> the polls might be showing different headline numbers, but they're all telling the same story. and that story is a huge gap between the labour vote and the conservative vote. and when we're looking at how these majorities are made up in the house of commons, the absolute number of votes doesn't matter as much as the gap between first and second place. after all, the prime minister, who received the most votes in any election in the history of the united kingdom was john major in 1992.

he only got a sliver of a slim majority , but that's because the majority, but that's because the labour party got a lot of votes as well. it's quite possible that keir starmer, in fact, maybe it's probably all that keir starmer will get fewer votes than boris johnson did in 2019. but many, many more seats. why? because of the gap between the labour vote and the tory vote. the split on the right thatis vote. the split on the right that is being shown in poll after poll after poll in many, many seats that might be traditionally conservative. if half of people go for one of the right wing parties and half go for the other right wing party, the labour party or the lib dems come through the middle. and that's what we're seeing in these seat by seat polls. these multi—level post—stratification multi —level post—stratification and regression multi—level post—stratification and regression analysis polls, incredibly complicated polling telling the same story. the conservatives could well come under below 100 seats. they've never fallen that low in their history. not since 1834, when the party was founded. >> tom harwood, thank you very much. that is tom harwood out

there with his thoughts. thank you so much. right. but of course, as we know with polling, thatis course, as we know with polling, that is a snapshot of the moment right now and things could change if you just tuned in. welcome aboard. it's just coming up to 13 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. right. let's welcome again to my classes writer, columnist and journalist emma woolf and also political commentatorjonathan emma woolf and also political commentator jonathan less. emma woolf and also political commentatorjonathan less. right commentator jonathan less. right they're commentatorjonathan less. right they're going to head to head to head to head. head to head. how many heads they got. loads of them. right. it is the clash. right. so first let's talk about polling because a lot of this polling because a lot of this polling is suggesting a massive labour landslide. but there are lots of things. there are lots of variables that could happen in between. i mean, we saw what happened with rishi sunak not doing the d—day thing, not staying for the whole of the whole event, the international part of it. and we've seen that in the debates. keir starmer has seemed to sort of fumble a little bit. it hasn't looked as positive. we've seen nigel farage in one of them win the debate, but yet people saying there's no seats and the greens doing well, the liberal

democrats going, well, i'm going to start with you, emma woolf, what are your thoughts on this? and in particular, if polling is right and there is a massive landslide for the labour party, is that undemocratic? >> no, i don't think it's undemocratic, but i think because a vote is a vote and this is our system, i think our system is completely broken, as you saw there. >> lib dems on course to get 56 seats with 11% of the vote. we whereas reform on course to get seven seats, for example, with 13% of the vote. so our system is actually broken. a vote doesn't represent a vote, a vote doesn't represent a vote, a vote doesn't represent a representation in parliament because of first past the post. so it's a system which i don't agree with. then again, proportional representation has its own problems, you know, and you end up with terrible hung parliaments and all of that kind of stuff. but what i think is more interesting than the labour landslide is the absolute near virtual extinction. the probability of near extinction of the conservative party, who have been around as tom said, there from since 1834. we are talking about an existential. i don't think it was the d—day blunder . i don't think it was the d—day blunder. i don't think it was calling a general election in the rain. i think it goes way back. >> i think the tory party, i

think it was standing in front of the titanic quarter. >> it wasn't the titanic quarter. i think the problems go. i mean, at least a few months, at least a few years back, the conservative party has an existential crisis. they've been tearing themselves apart for, for several years now. what i'm really interested in and then i will shut up, is this thing about about the polling for me? what about turnout ? what for me? what about turnout? what is turnout going to be? because i thought until a few weeks ago, i thought until a few weeks ago, i thought until a few weeks ago, i thought turnout is going to be so low because there's so many reluctant conservatives like me who just think, i can't vote for that. but what else do i vote for? but now, now that farage has jumped into the ring, now that the reform kind of bombshell has gone off, i hear a lot of people now enthused and wanting to get out there and vote for reform. so i think turnout could be recovering. but let's see, because all of these percentages are only on people who are going to vote, what about the people who don't vote? are you one of them? >> are you thinking about voting reform ? >> reform? >> i would never, ever reveal my voting intention. jonathan >> why? >> why? >> you wanted them? >> you wanted them? >> no, i think that is a prize of precisely nobody . of precisely nobody. >> reform is not probably going

to get my vote at the next election, but i always have a fantastic labour mp who i'm delighted to vote for anyway, look, i actually agree with a lot of what emma just said. because, labour is obviously on course for a huge , huge course for a huge, huge majority. that's not controversial at this point. obviously you can have, so—called, you know, a deus ex machina , something that we don't machina, something that we don't yet know in the next. but there's not very much time for that either. and i probably hope it doesn't happen because it's probably not going to be a good thing if it is a thing, but even if you i think at this point when people are so, kind of entrenched in their opinions, people have made up their minds about the conservative party, not so much about labour, but they've made up their minds about the conservative party. i think a lot of people get wrong in this conversation, ian, is to say there's no enthusiasm for laboun say there's no enthusiasm for labour. labour has a soft vote, that's true. but people are very, very determined to get rid of the conservatives. there is no doubt there's not a soft dislike of the conservative party. there's a hard dislike. >> let's be fair, though, just from what we see in the polling and what we hear on the street, thatis

and what we hear on the street, that is a very real potential thing that will happen that we, the conservative party, i don't think will be winning this next general election. i don't think i've been controversial in saying that every poll is suggesting that, and a lot of conservatives are saying they want to vote. >> that's exactly, exactly what i'm saying. >> it's totally not controversial at all. but the point of it is, if labour do get this wonderful majority, does it feel somewhat undemocratic? because obviously within there, suddenly every single one of their policies can be unchallenged within their , unchallenged within their, within this democracy? >> well, that's always been the case with big majorities. and actually, i can't believe i'm agreeing with emma so much. that's never happened before. but i agree, that completely that we need to change our electoral system. and i think there should be a consistency whether you're on the left or the right. i agree that if reform gets a hell of votes that should correspond to seats. i say that as somebody who loads their their politics and who, you know, thoroughly dislikes a lot of the kind of the people behind that movement . behind that movement. >> it does still feel wrong, though, doesn't it, that

millions of people could vote. >> and i've said that before, like we're looking at millions of people will not be represented in seats. absolutely. and we need to have we need to have a proportional system where we get used to, as is the case, the absolute norm across mainland europe and many other countries besides where people just get used to working with each other. we have this idea in britain that strong government requires one party to have an absolutely that's not good for politics. >> well, i'm going to stop this clash immediately because they're agreeing i don't like it, but now they're disagreeing oven it, but now they're disagreeing over. no, they're agreeing they are. time for the great british. give away your chance to win £16,000 worth of prizes. that's 15,000 in cash and also a whole host of summer treats . it could host of summer treats. it could all be yours, but you do have to be in it to win it. here are all the details that you need. >> there's still time to win our summer spectacular with an incredible trio of treats, and you could win them first. there's a fabulous £15,000 in tax free cash to ensure this summer is special. what would you spend that on next? you'll

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good afternoon. it's 22 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua. welcome to the clash . now, the conservatives clash. now, the conservatives are urging the labour party to stop the possibility of new taxes on homes in its tracks. the tories state that they are concerned about the new council tax banding, which includes rate increases, cuts to discounts and exemptions and a council tax revaluation under labour government. labour, in turn, have accused the conservatives of fabricating labour policies, and all of this comes as it claimed that homeowners with gardens will pay higher council tax under plans being considered by labour. conservatives have said sir keir starmer would reportedly use a scheme by labourin reportedly use a scheme by labour in wales to snoop on the size of people's gardens via satellites. but does the council tax system need rebanned saying

well, let's go straight to my clashes. writer columnist and journalist emma woolf also political commentator jonathan, liz, jonathan, liz, i'll start with you. do you, in your view, do think that that is a legitimate, realistic and reasonable tax to look at and expand? >>i expand? >> i think it's one of the great conspiracies of british politics that you can't talk about re—evaluating council tax because council tax came out of the ashes of the poll tax, which brought margaret thatcher down in 1990, or at least was one of the main contributing factors to that and very few leaders would want to. they've got so many sort of rakes hitting their heads at any given time. they don't want to sort of go back over old ones as well. but the fact remains that the council tax is based on property valuations. from april 1991, a lot of the people paying it would not even have been born. then. an average price of band d was based on a property worth between 68,000 and £88,000. well, if you live in london, you know fantastic. trying to find a band d property now based on that value. >> but it's not just about the

but that's unfair, isn't it? because if you think about if you go from, say, the north east to the south, the bands remain exactly the same as in the limits within the bands, but the property prices are clearly somewhat higher in places like london. but yet you'll probably get less for your money. >> absolutely. so you have this absurd statistic i saw the other day where i think an average three bedroom property in blackpool is charged. the same or more than buckingham palace or more than buckingham palace or something like that . so there or something like that. so there are people in blackpool paying more money than the king in buckingham palace, and that cannot be right. there are different ways that you can have of looking at this. i think that it's reasonable to have additional tax bands for insanely expensive properties. i think that they can those people can afford to pay more. you might without obviously going back to the poll tax, which people thought was unfair because famously the binman was paying because famously the binman was paying the same as a billionaire. but i think you can look at something where you can look at something where you can look at something where you can look at the number of adults. obviously you have a discount if you are a single person living in a property, but you can look

at a system where if there are lots of people in one property, that's expensive, using public services, predominantly people who are less well—off, have more kids or more families, or live in houses where the extended family are in. that would be in a property that would be potentially be that would potentially be that would potentially be that would potentially be in a property that was worth more. i'm talking about just the ways that you can think of making it a fairer system. >> but when it was banded at the time, i think the differentials between the prices and property were on a similar level. so something that was maybe 60,000, if i mean that, then would have been a similar, near similar price to something in the north. now that gap is so wide, how is it a realistic tax to look at to rebrand, rebrand one? >> one thing's for sure we are all going to be paying more. there's a massive black hole, isn't there? whether it's 38 million, a billion as the labour have been billion. yeah, 38 billion or what i think look i think the whole of kind of local authority funding needs reform, needs proper reform . but as needs proper reform. but as jonathan says, it's really hard. how do you go about doing that? what about an old lady living on her own in a house that's falling down around her ears?

but it's a big property. >> well, she should buy into a smaller property than she'll pay less. but i suppose at a certain age, maybe they don't pay. >> so after all. yeah. and there are. yeah, but i know, but they're looking at getting rid of discounts and exemptions and all of that kind of thing. so i think this is an area which is going to probably be hit because they've made the pledge on not cutting or not sorry, and not increasing the other taxes. so i think this is going to be an area where we probably are going to be paying more. but i mean, the whole property market and the whole property market and the whole property market and the whole system around property in this country is, is really, really in need of reform. i mean, look at the look at service charges, which are staggeringly high. look at the lack of rights that leaseholders have. and this is something freeholders have. look at trying to get problem tenants out of a property that you might. so i mean it on both sides. look at trying. >> that's going to be harder under labour because even harder there are so many that look at there are so many that look at the lack of housing. >> i mean it's just such well that's the key isn't it? that's the key. but it's such a broken system in terms of council tax banding. it does seem completely

nuts to me, but the minute you go into that, it's as sort of hot button issue, just like a poll tax. it's a very, very tncky poll tax. it's a very, very tricky area because you can't just say, okay, i'm going to add a few extra bands for people whose property is above this, that and the other, because then you have to do all of them and move everybody up. >> so if you move, maybe you need to move the banding, but keep the amount, but then add some new bands for people who have. because i actually agree with you, jonathan, that you know, something in buckingham palace shouldn't be paying the same amount as somebody in a sort of three bedroom flat in london. it doesn't make any sense. and there is an extra uber large wealthy band. absolutely, who are paying the same as people on the limit, which where the properties really aren't that much. so i think there is an opportunity for a bigger band, but yeah, i think that well, i think that you can have in other words, everything's going to go up many i think. >> well, i think with any of these systems there should be a kind of a quid pro quo. so you could offer people in the sort of the, the lowest priced properties or people who are

struggling in some way to sort of pay less, and you could sort of pay less, and you could sort of redistribute it, which is obviously where we're not heanng obviously where we're not hearing very much from labour at the moment. but you could sort of rebalance so that the tax share, if you like. so the wealthiest are paying more. i agree there is a problem with council tax and it's not based on your earnings. it's based on assets. so i suppose it's the closest that we come to a wealth tax in this country, but at the same time, if you are living in an extremely large or, you know, expensive property, then you might be asked to pay a little bit more. and if you can't afford it, then obviously, as emma was suggesting, maybe you should be moving to somewhere else. >> so if there's this as a policy, because what the labour party is saying is actually the conservatives are just coming out with stuff that is just imaginary stuff that they're not actually going to do. but this is one that has been a lot of people have been talking about it repeatedly up to the election and even before any talk of an election. yeah, and even both parties have been looking at that. yeah. >> well, they're going to need to find the money somewhere. you can't just keep making spending pledges, you know that that non—dom 3 billion is not going

to keep going. that's the magic money tree that keeps on giving. the money needs to come from somewhere. so, you know, where is this money going to come from? i think people are going to be i do think it's unfair because what if you live in your family home, you've lived there for ten, 20 years and your area has gone up. you don't have more wealth, but you do have much, much, of course, you have a bigger asset and think of those families who have that kind of those kinds of issues. so, you know, there are so many individual circumstances and people in this country get very, very nervous when you start talking about mean, not means testing, but looking at sort of personal circumstances and all of that. so it's a really tricky one. but then again, look at the state of our local areas. look at the state of neighbourhoods and roads and bin collections and roads and bin collections and all of that. so i think that we need an overhaul of local council. where does our money go? >> so isn't it very badly like they spend it so badly? >> i don't get it. all that money they're getting all off. all of us. yeah. and yet there's still potholes everywhere. they've changed the bin collection. now you even have to. where i am, there's an offer to. where i am, there's an offer to pay a subscription for the green bin. the extra bin?

>> really? >> really? >> what? why? >> what? why? >> look, i think that the conversation, the broader conversation, the broader conversation here, the one that we're not quite having almost having, is about how we address the state of this country that people feel is not working. pubuc people feel is not working. public services are on the ground. how do we do that without raising money? how do we raise money through tax rises, through borrowing, through growth, obviously. but not but none of the main parties are being honest about that. >> well, okay, let's see what people are saying very quickly. mary says marius, she says, personally, i just want council tax scrapped altogether and just have it incorporated into income tax and have it overseen by government to ensure that local councils are spending wisely. i'm sick of my council who are useless and there is no accountability here. half of them you call, they'll never even pick up the phone, so you never even get through, this one here, people have. ava says people are struggling yet because they go on holiday abroad, have the latest iphones, pay abroad, have the latest iphones, pay £5 for costa coffee , and pay £5 for costa coffee, and people like me who have been thrifty still got my nokia 3516. have you asked to pay for those wasters? that's what ava says. >> ava, i agree with ava . >> ava, i agree with ava. >> ava, i agree with ava. >> you think you agree with ava?

>> you think you agree with ava? >> i do, i do. >>- >> i do, i do. >> well, let's keep your thoughts coming gbnews.com forward slash your say i'm nana akua. this is the clash. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up isn't it. zero dead. first let's go to your latest news headlines with sam francis. >> very good afternoon to you. it's exactly 3:32. leading the news this afternoon . german news this afternoon. german police have shot a man who was armed with an axe at a euros fan zone in hamburg. these pictures. officers say the suspect was also carrying a molotov cocktail, which he tried to light before approaching several people, including police officers. the incident happened dunng officers. the incident happened during a dutch fans parade ahead of the clash between netherlands and poland. the attacker is now being treated for his injuries. labour insists it's taking nothing for granted when it comes to opinion polls ahead of

next month's general election . next month's general election. one, published in the times, suggests that sir keir starmer could secure a landslide win with 456 seats, compared to just 72 for the tories. under rishi sunaks leadership, which would be their lowest ever vote share . be their lowest ever vote share. and health is at the forefront of the labour and liberal democrats election campaigning today, after accusing the conservatives of creating a crisis in cancer care, sir keir starmer is promising to cut waiting lists to double ct and mri scanners and to provide 40,000 extra appointments each week . meanwhile, the lib dems week. meanwhile, the lib dems are proposing a £1 billion boost for radiotherapy equipment, adding 200 machines to cut waiting times. sir ed davey, who is personally affected by cancen is personally affected by cancer, also wants to see a legal guarantee that patients receive treatment within 62 days of an urgent referral . prince of an urgent referral. prince william's children have wished him a happy father's day with a

personally signed social media post saying we love you, papa. the message was posted alongside a photo of the prince of wales standing on a beach with his arms around his three children. it was taken by the princess catherine on a trip to the norfolk coast last month, and earlier the prince of wales shared his own throwback photo to celebrate father's day taken together with the king in 1984, when william was just a toddler and it shows him playing football with his dad in the gardens of kensington palace . gardens of kensington palace. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news common alerts now, though, it's back to . nana. >> thank you sam, it's just coming up to 35 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news after 3:00 even i'm telling lies. next, though. do you believe that private school numbers are rising despite labour's vat

welcome back. if you've just tuned in. where have you been ? tuned in. where have you been? this is gb news. where? britain's election channel. i'm nana akua. this is the clash. and next up, new figures from the department of education show an increase in the number of children attending private schools in england. now, that's despite claims that labour's plan to add vat to school fees will apparently result in the sector, in some cases, some schools closing, some schools have closed, though this is contrary to the independent schools council . their figures, schools council. their figures, released last month, showed pupil numbers had fallen due to the anticipated that increase. so do you believe that private school numbers are increasing? despite labour's plans? because it seems a bit odd that they're suggesting more people are attending or choosing to attend when quite a few schools are closing down. right. let me introduce again my clashes writer, columnist and journalist

emma woolf and also political commentatorjonathan lis emma woolf and also political commentator jonathan lis emma woolf will start with you now. >> i think these figures are misleading. i don't think pupil numbers are going to be rising. these figures from the department for education come from january, right? it's only in recent months that the wheels of the sort of breadth of the laboun of the sort of breadth of the labour, vat hike charge plans have started to filter into schools . it's it will take time schools. it's it will take time to see what the effect is. but we know on the ground that a it's going to have a massive impact on other schools, state schools, good state schools in the same areas. and secondly, that there are there are parents like my own parents, i think like my own parents, i think like your parents, who were stretched to the limit but really wanted to spend that money that they weren't spending on foreign foreign holidays or satellite tv or new cars. they wanted to spend that money on their kids for education those parents, it will push them over the limit. the big let's be honest, the big private schools, eton and winchester, wherever they will be fine. they won't be affected. they're full of russian kids, chinese kids, lots of international wealth. but there are lots and lots of

smaller prep schools, private prep schools, which will and are closing down. >> jonathan, liz . >> jonathan, liz. >> jonathan, liz. >> well, look, we only see the figures that we have. and if the figures that we have. and if the figures show them, they're obviously next year will have a clearer idea from january, to be fair. >> so the figures that say that school numbers are going up are from january, the ones from the independent schools council , are independent schools council, are very recent. that said that actually there's 2.7% fewer admissions to these schools . admissions to these schools. >> they've also been 12 new schools that have just opened in the last year, which might tell you something about confidence in the sector. look obviously there are going to be some people who will be able to afford these fees no matter what. and there are there are some people who are never going to be able to afford to send their kids to private schools, no matter how, quote unquote aspirational they are, no matter how hard they work. and the fact remains that still 93% of children do not go to private schools. so this is still very much a minority issue . much a minority issue. >> so to hell with the 7% of kids, many with special needs,

who do not get one of those independent health care assessments, which enables them to potentially get out of this 20% vat. the majority of people pupils with special needs don't have an independent health care. status. so they so they don't have one of those. what's it called? the. i'll find out what the actual thing is, but it's something where they work out your needs and you're given an assessment. now, a lot of kids don't get that assessment. if you haven't had that assessment, then you won't get out of the 20% vat. and that's the majority of kids. and the parents are paying of kids. and the parents are paying for that. so say my son, who is a little bit of cerebral palsy, he needs a little bit of extra help. he will not qualify for this grant type thing that will help him. if i was to send him to a private school, which he may need to go to because of his needs, i'd have to pay this extra vat. >> i think obviously things should be taken on a case by case basis. no, people need extra assistance and the government can step in. the government can step in. the government should step in to provide extra assistance. that's not the issue that we're talking aboutin not the issue that we're talking about in this particular private school. >> why is it not the issue?

>> why is it not the issue? >> well, because privately you raised it by saying 93. >> so i'm pointing out that those 7% are a very they're the likely 7% if they go to a state school will probably slow things down a bit because and that will affect the other kids who are there. the 93% that you talk about and do these state schools have capacity? >> i think a lot of people with special and extra needs in this country do go to the state sector, and obviously there are state schools that sort of cater specifically to that. so i think it's true to say that you have to go to obviously it's a case by case basis, but many, many children with with disabilities, there is lots of sense kind of provision. exactly, exactly. and councils obviously that's where it costs money. >> of course it costs money, costs them more money, you see. so if you're going to get if you're going to assimilate all these kids into your new environment, which is a state school environment, then they're going to spend more money on these kids. so there it just feels like something where you're not going to make the money. the whole principle of this was to make money. >> well, the principle of this is partly fairness. obviously, it's to raise to make money.

>> they wanted to raise one point, obviously 1.6. >> it's a it's obviously to raise revenue. of course that's the basic reason. well it's based on the principle of fairness that private schools shouldn't have a tax break and that private schools should pay vat as, as other sort of businesses do. and private schools already have sort of business rates exemption or business rates exemption or business rates exemption or business rates discounts, for example. so it's an idea that you kind of redress that balance. it's not saying we should close down, private schools or to say the new private schools shouldn't be able to be built. private schools can absorb that extra cost if they want to. two of them have already closed down. well, there are specific , you well, there are specific, you know, i think reading about those schools and it wasn't you know, i was reading for one of them that this happened. so obviously they've all happened before . any kind of vat rise before. any kind of vat rise comes in hasn't come in yet. >> we have we have. you know how that works. i'm a parent. i know you don't have children, so you may not realise it, but parents will assess the school months and months and months in advance and months and months in advance and then they'll work out. >> do you know, i read with that one school that it wasn't because of the vat. i think it was a failing school anyway. and

there are there are private schools. >> the private schools are the straw that broke the private schools are are like all businesses allowed to fail. >> are we really saying that private schools. obviously i don't want to see them. >> we're talking about this is what i really object to. we i'm sorry to interrupt, but this. well, they're they're businesses. they're allowed to fail. we're talking about children here. we are talking schools fail all the time. >> and that's not good either. >> and that's not good either. >> politics with children. they're not playing politics with children's education. labour are playing politics. this is about kids being pulled out of one school because their parents just can't just cannot make that seven grand. that ten grand a year stretch to another to 12 grand a year. this is not on you. do not do this. you do not play politics with children's education. no one is paying children's education. no one is paying in this country. we allow people to spend their money on new cars, foreign holidays, whatever. and yet when parents like mine, parents like nana pay to send their children to private school, everybody says, oh, wealthy, oh born with a silver, that's nonsense. >> i'm literally saying that private schools should be allowed to exist. no one is saying that you can't send your children to private school. what what people are saying is that

they shouldn't have a tax break and that they should pay their pay and that they should pay their pay their way as other businesses do. why should why should banks, why should private schools be like natwest sort of subsidise by by the government wouldn't compare a bank to a school. >> so hang on. natwest was subsidised by compare. >> yeah, exactly. and are you really saying so are we saying that private schools should be sort of subsidised by the government. >> they're not really schools . >> they're not really schools. they're not they're not really, they're not really. and i think this is the only country that has that. and let's be honest, if you're told this costs this and then suddenly in the middle, you change the goalpost and add 20% on, that is a change of the goalpost. no, no, it's announcing a policy. no, no, it is your child. yeah. that's all life. >> well, listen, we will discuss more of that. >> stay with us. gbnews.com/yoursay. i'd love to hear your thoughts on this as well. official data from the department of education shows as of january, the number of pupils in independent schools was, oh, just over 500,000 previous year. in 2021, it was a couple of thousand less. right. so stay with us. coming up my niggle nana niggle. i'll be speaking

about why theatres and drama schools have been offered plus size inclusivity training for next, and the first time in over 100 years, soldiers participating in trooping the colour were permitted to wear beards

oh welcome to the clash. it's just coming up to 49 minutes after 3:00. now, recent forecasts on global crude oil demand vary. however, they all point to one fact achieving net zero carbon emissions by 2050 is looking ridiculously unlikely , and ridiculously unlikely, and polling in the uk has found that pubuc polling in the uk has found that public support for several net zero policies has declined over the past two years. measures such as frequent flyer levies , such as frequent flyer levies, low traffic neighbourhoods or uns low traffic neighbourhoods or ltns subsidies for electric vehicles. all of these things have seen reduced backing, so is net zero is dead or is this goal actually really is it still

realistic? right. so joining me to discuss this writer, columnist and journalist and emma woolf and political commentator jonathan liss. emma woolf and political commentatorjonathan liss. who's commentator jonathan liss. who's next? is it you emma? emma >> well, look, unless we get serious about long term investment in renewables, not these unpopular things like low traffic neighbourhoods, like electric cars, but not having enough charging points. unless we get long term serious and do the investment that takes decades, then yes, net zero is dead and it's not achievable by 2050. it's really, really ridiculous to decide to bring in. everybody's got to have electric cars and then you haven't got enough charging points. everybody's got to insulate their homes, but you haven't built homes with insulation, fuel price. i mean, people would get behind this stuff if it made sense, if it was affordable and if it worked. lots of people are green and they want to save the planet. they want to achieve net zero, which, by the way, is a pretty meaningless term. you're never going to actually achieve net zero carbon emissions. but anyway, it's the term that we use unless we get serious about

that and make it cross—party because what they're doing is one party announces one thing, one party announces one thing, one party announces another. so you're constantly in this sort of short term, 4 to 5 year thing. we need a long term investment. it needs to be cross party agreement. what we're going for, how we're going to achieve it, and then we go for it. >> but you said it yourself, we're never going to achieve net zero. jonathan >> well i think they're not only there needs to be cross—party. it's more important. it needs to be sort of cross national. it's one of those issues that we can't resolve on our own, obviously. and so that's, you know, no one is claiming that the united kingdom is going to be able to stop climate change alone. but i do think are you claiming that we can even stop it? i'm i'm certainly claiming that we there are things that we can do. that's the science can't stop it. >> you don't you actually think we can stop the science? >> the science suggests that we can bring down climate. we can bnng can bring down climate. we can bring down emissions. we can reverse some of the changes that have happened in the climate ones. well, that we can sort of bnng ones. well, that we can sort of bring down the temperature, you know, rises we can bring down, we can, you know, stop it from going above 1.5 if we all stand

under the moon, catch it. >> if it falls in the sky, i would like to i would like to do things like slowing down consumption and looking at over consumption. >> what about cleaning the oceans? >> what about plastic in the oceans? stuff we can actually green environmental policies. are we putting up these massive windmills that catch animals and they've got a hum and buzz that are actually powered by coal and gas. i'm just looking at it and just thinking it just doesn't it doesn't sound realistic that we'll achieve it by 2050. >> i think it's not realistic. we can achieve it by 2050. if we basically put our hands up and say, we can't do anything about this and take a defeatist approach, clearly there needs to be a sort of international engagement, that's why. so the cop summits are so important. clearly it's important for the smaller , sort of, smaller, sort of, disproportionately wealthy countries such as the uk, which, you know, sort of release more emissions relative to their size than others to say, i suppose, lead by example or at least show that we are invest in this to encourage other people to join us. and these all these things are going to be necessary in the future. >> well, if you believe in net

zero, let us know. gbnews.com/yoursay say but yesterday the nation celebrated trooping the colour and for the first time in over 100 years, soldiers participated with wearing beards. they wore beards. the army lifted the beards. the army lifted the beard ban in march as it concerned, as it was concerned it might be deterring young recruits sporting them, what do you think , jonathan? less you think, jonathan? less a beard? you. i don't know whether yours would be acceptable. >> mine is. my beard is never acceptable, i, i treat beards, i go in cycles with my beard because i can never decide if i want to have a really sort of small beard or a big beard. so i kind of leave it for six weeks and two months and then just go back to grade one. i never go clean shaven because i don't like my face, clean shaven. but i think that we have to look at the history of beards, you know, sort of the monarchs would often have sort of glorious sort of beards and moustaches, sort of hundreds of years ago or even sort of 100 years ago. and obviously soldiers would have been the same. so it's quite a recent, idea that we wouldn't have, that people had to be clean shaven. i think that in

general, soldiers, much like anyone else, should have the right to look how they like. >> yes, with the bearskin hats. if jonathan was an animal, he'd be like a little panda. wouldn't he? little cuddly, i feel so i think you would be. you would be. >> well, because i'm going so crazy. >> no, it's just a commoner. he does. that's what i used to love. pants. my favourite teddy bear was a panda. anyway. >> emma woolf. no, i just feel so awkward debating beards with jonathan. i have pogonophobia, which is absolute phobia of beards i hate beards. my goodness, this is awkward. i don't want to kiss someone with a beard. i hate the look of them. i hate the smell of them and they're unhygienic. i don't like them. well, let's move on. >> okay. >> okay. >> she hates that. >> she hates that. >> more on that story later. yes. well, listen. >> loads still to come, including my niggle. nana's niggle, plus the great british debate i'm asking is a massive majority undemocratic as polling is predicting a labour landslide. first though, let's get an update with your weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to

you by the met office. we're expecting heavy showers on tuesday, but by the time we reach midweek, there'll be plenty of dry weather around, even some sunshine across most of the country . for the weekend, of the country. for the weekend, though, we have had low pressure draped across the uk, which has generally brought an unsettled picture. plenty of rain and showers and it's this low pressure which is pushing this area of rain into northern parts of england by the time we reach this evening, generally clearing across scotland with a few showers creeping into the north, but across central areas and in the south. plenty of clear weather overnight, which means it's going to feel a little bit cooler, may even start to see some mist and fog develop by the time we reach monday morning . time we reach monday morning. and then across the north, generally milder, where that cloud sticks around. so to start on monday, then we are going to start to see some showers feed in across scotland , which is in across scotland, which is pretty much the setup for the rest of the day. a little bit dner rest of the day. a little bit drier across northern ireland and parts of northern england. just some spots of rain and drizzle, mainly across hills, but elsewhere across central areas of the uk, southern parts of wales and down across the

south coast. there'll be plenty of bright sunshine to start the day. generally, though, monday is going to be quite an unsettled day. plenty of sunny spells and showers. the odd shower could be heavy at times as well. in the northeast may even hear the odd rumble of thunder. but generally across the south and southeast it's going to be largely dry and we'll even start to see some sunshine by the time we reach the afternoon. and that's where it is generally going to be warmest highs of 22, maybe even 23 celsius, depending on how much sunshine we see. but elsewhere, temperatures generally around average, where that cloud sticks around for tuesday. then once again, generally an unsettled day with those sunny spells and showers. these two could be heavy at times in the northeast and the southeast catches the most of the driest weather as well. and that's where temperatures once again are going to be at their highest. generally, though, from midweek onwards, turning drier with some sunshine and that's it from me. bye for now . from me. bye for now. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news. on tv, onune welcome to gb news. on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and for the next few nana akua. and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine is theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree , but no times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today , it's joining me today, it's journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. and also editor at large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths, right . charlotte griffiths, right. coming up in my niggle nana niggle. it's all about inclusivity training. then my outside guest today has a journey , a career spanning journey, a career spanning decades. who do you think she is? she's quite a familiar face. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines .

get your latest news headlines. >> gnaana, thank you very much. good afternoon to you. it's just after 4:00 leading the news this afternoon. news from germany. police have shot a man there who was armed with an axe at a euros fan zone in hamburg. this footage was taken as that incident unfolded . well, incident unfolded. well, officers say the suspect was also carrying a molotov cocktail, which he tried to light before approaching. several people, including police officers . the incident happened officers. the incident happened dunng officers. the incident happened during a dutch fans parade ahead of the clash this afternoon between netherlands and poland. we understand the attacker is now being treated for his injuries. former police sergeant harry tange says security is tight in germany but authorities are well prepared. >> if you're in a public area and somebody's got an axe or a

knife, if they are very aggressive and mobile , there's aggressive and mobile, there's amazing how much damage. as we already know from a previous germany attack, how many people can be hurt and even killed, if you can't isolate that person away from the public or isolate the public away from that individual , then that leaves individual, then that leaves very few options. so they're thinking about it. they're not just running around thinking, come right, let's find this guy and shoot him. and what is the most minimum force we can use which does not put the public or other officers at risk ? other officers at risk? >> back here in the uk, an appeal has been launched for a man who suspected of killing a child in a hit and run in coventry. police are searching to find 21 year old dallas alexanders, who's wanted on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. 12 year old kehon dangerous driving. 12 year old keiton slater was hit by a black bmw just for just half keiton slater was hit by a black bmw just forjust half past keiton slater was hit by a black bmw just for just half past four on friday afternoon. police are urging anyone with information to come forward . a police

to come forward. a police officer who drove his car into an escaped cow in london has now been removed from front line duties. and a warning the video we're about to show does contain some images of injured animal. surrey police has started an internal investigation into that incident and we understand , has incident and we understand, has now referred itself to the police complaints watchdog . it police complaints watchdog. it follows calls from the animal's owner for the officer responsible to lose his job. the ten month old calf is now recovering in a barn after being hit by that marked response vehicle in staines in surrey, on friday. the tories are being warned that they could face electoral extinction, with polling firm savanta saying time is close to running out for the prime minister. and in a separate poll for the times, survation says the conservatives could have their lowest ever vote share under rishi sunaks leadership , predicting the party leadership, predicting the party will win just 72 seats in next month's general election. it's

also forecasting labour's on course to take 456 seats, surpassing the 1997 landslide and reform uk expected to get seven seats. transport secretary mark harper told us that the conservatives, though, are still up for the fight. >> nobody's voted in this election yet and we also know from the polls if we're going to quote them, a record number of people. i think 44% of the electorate haven't yet made up their mind about who they're going to vote for. it's exactly the reason why we come on shows like yours to make the case about a conservative government, with the programme that we've set out for lower taxes dealing with migration, are fully costed. programme for government and staying with election news. >> health is at the forefront of the labour and liberal democrats campaigning today after accusing the conservatives of creating a crisis in cancer care, sir keir starmer is promising to cut waiting lists to double ct and mri scanners to and provide 40,000 extra appointments each week. meanwhile the lib dems are

proposing a £1 billion boost for radiotherapy equipment, adding 200 machines. they say that will cut waiting times. sir ed davey, who's personally affected by cancen who's personally affected by cancer, also wants to see a legal guarantee put in place that would mean patients receive treatment within 62 days of an urgent referral , ukraine treatment within 62 days of an urgent referral, ukraine has been told. the european union will stand by the country for as long as it takes to secure peace. the majority of 90 countries to take part in a two day summit in switzerland have now signed the final declaration calling for nuclear plants and ports to be secured under ukraine's control, ports to be secured under ukraine's control , for food not ukraine's control, for food not to be weaponized and for all prisoners of war to be released. president volodymyr zelenskyy says he's now hoping for quick results. >> we don't have time for prolonged work . moving to peace prolonged work. moving to peace means acting fast. prepare nafions means acting fast. prepare nations will take months, not years . so when the action plans years. so when the action plans for peace are ready and when

every step is worked out , the every step is worked out, the path will be open for the second peace summit and thus for ending this war. for a just and lasting peace. >> and finally, some royal news for you. kensington palace has released a new photograph of prince william and his three children to mark father's day. it was taken by princess catherine in norfolk last month and has been shared with a special message from prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis saying we love you, papa. and earlier, the prince of wales shared his own throwback photo to celebrate father's day together with the king, taken in 1984 when william was just a toddler. it shows him playing football with his dad in the gardens of kensington palace . gardens of kensington palace. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to our website gb news. common alerts now though. more

from . nana. from. nana. >> thank you sam. good afternoon. if you're just tuned in. welcome on board. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm sorry, but i had to laugh at this. theatres and drama schools are being offered plus size inclusivity training . come on. seriously, is training. come on. seriously, is this really a thing in order to tackle fat phobia, to apparently make the theatre more inclusive for bigger bodies? what a lady called ruth ann phillips, who is a plus size theatre director . a plus size theatre director. she's behind the drive. now, apparently her own research, so it's not exactly independent, showed that nine out of ten respondents should have training on size inclusion, and she's running workshops which she's been able to develop thanks to an arts council of england grant funded by the national lottery. ruth is also the co—founder of

inclusion collective, which is an organisation that provides training in creative wellbeing, body positivity and inclusive movement. her website contains resources on fat activism, advocacy for the rights and dignity of fat people, combating discrimination and the body conscious scale. but in truth , conscious scale. but in truth, this shouldn't really be about inclusivity and phobia . this is inclusivity and phobia. this is actually about health because in my view , ruth is conflating the my view, ruth is conflating the two. professor karol sikora , a two. professor karol sikora, a consultant oncologist, said normalising obesity has become fashionable in advertising and the media simply to sell stuff . the media simply to sell stuff. but it's got nothing to do with celebrating diversity. nobody needs to be fat. it's like encouraging risky behaviours such as smoking, driving encouraging risky behaviours such as smoking , driving after a such as smoking, driving after a booze up or lying like a lobster on the beach in the sun. a balanced diet and lots of exercise are the cornerstones of a healthy lifestyle. he went on to say , how could anybody to say, how could anybody possibly, possibly justify these projects? plus size inclusivity training? please bring back

common sense. well, exactly. i'm for equal opportunity and for giving people credit based on merit and what they bring to the table, even if it is food. only joking. that's where the weight of my heart is. through my gut. i'm looking for a man that can cook, but in truth, being obese can be dangerous. and whilst i absolutely agree you should love what god gave you, obesity is the biggest killer and costs the health service a fortune. people come in all shapes and sizes and it's a wonderful thing. but to conflate body positivity with obesity is very dangerous . obesity is very dangerous. right. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, is a massive majority undemocratic? could keir starmers supermajority , if keir starmers supermajority, if it happens, undermine democracy? what do you think for the great british debate in this hour? that's why i'm asking you that question. is a massive majority undemocratic. then at 450, its worldview will cross live to tel aviv with mystifier uri geller and then over to los angeles to

speak to paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, to get the latest stateside at five. stay tuned by outside guests. while she's a mystery, who is she? she's a journalist. her career spans decades. what do you reckon ? she's sort of do you reckon? she's sort of slightly pixilated. i think we've given it away. she loves a very mean suit. that's coming up in the next hour. as ever, send me your thoughts, post your comments. gbnews.com. forward slash your say . all right. let's slash your say. all right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my pal , a get started. let's welcome again to my pal, a broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and also editor at large for the mail on sunday charlotte griffiths. right i'm going to start with you, danny kelly. >> i wonder why you're going to start with a fat guy on the panel >> he's just cuddly and adorable though, talking about fat people. >> well, i wondered why i was ianed >> well, i wondered why i was invited down today. >> she's took your here every week. >> i know i'm part of the furniture, but she's talking about fat phobia now. >> fair enough. she's not here to defend herself. but the point i was making is that sometimes people try and vilify you for

pointing out something that is a danger to somebody else when you're trying to help, and she's acting as though it's some sort of phobia that the theatre is full of fat phobic people. >> yeah. i can't speak on behalf of everyone who's overweight, but what annoys me is when people who are overweight may blame something out of their control for being overweight. they may say, well, you don't know what's going on in their mind. maybe that's why they're piling on the pounds. generally speaking, charlotte's giggling already. i've only just met this lady. i noticed she stared at myself. >> look thin. >> look thin. >> she she stared at my stomach whenever when i said i try not to look down, which is fine. charlotte it's a stomach that's out there. a lot of people have fat because they drink too much, they eat too much and they don't move around. and there's an advert. there's one advert on the telly and i can't remember what it's for, but you got this really. i'm going to use the word fat. you got this really fat woman who's ice skating and i don't know what the product's for. and it looks like if she was to fall down, it would just crack the hole of the ice rink. yeah, and it's normalising that one. >> yeah, but she is amazing, though. she's amazing. >> but it's the normalisation of

being humongous. and then you've got to bring in all of those health consequences. i think what they're trying to say, i don't know what they're advertising. maybe it's nivea or i don't know. what they're trying to say is, look, you could be really, really fat. and you could still be really, really healthy. but at some point that balance will shift. you can't outrun ill health forever. you know, the older you get, the fatter you are, the more likely you are to cost the nhs a few bob. >> well, what it is, it's for actors, isn't it? >> so she's trying to encourage actors, not to be fat phobic on the stage, but i'm afraid it's a really physical job acting. and i've actually been to see a play recently. >> i was going to name it, but i think i better not. >> but in it was one fat actor, and he was clearly brought in as part of an inclusivity drive, but it was quite painful to watch. >> he was sweating, he was out of breath because it's really physical acting. >> you're on and off the stage, you're changing and, you know, actually there is an argument that actors should be slim and fit and healthy. >> it's a very physical list. >> it's a very physical list. >> they're playing a fat man unless they're playing the fat. yeah this guy was playing a fat

quy- >> guy- >> but quy- >> but but that's what they brought this in. and it seems they've paid this woman £10,000 to do this training. >> it's a racket. >> it's a racket. >> yeah. i mean, it's a sort of slightly what you're saying then sort of kind of goes with what she's saying, that there is a phobia against fat people in the theatre, and that's what she's trying to counteract. so by what you've just said there makes it sound like there is a sort of, oh, god, there's a fat person there or a slight, not in a mean way, but in your view, you sort of acknowledged it and noticed it and then thought, well, actually, it's a very physical job. >> well, one of the words that she disliked was curvaceous, which is actually the that's a lovely word. it's actually very pc way of saying fat. actually. another word she banned was stocky, which i describe you as stocky, which i describe you as stocky, not fat. is that complimentary? >> i think it is complimentary. you can look at my gut whenever you want. words. >> she's banned. these words she's queried and questioned. aren't fat phobic. some of them are kind of flattering, like curvaceous, yes, but she's saying no, that those can't be used either. and i know what you mean about sort of a fat. is it fat phobic to say people have to be fit and healthy? i mean, maybe she could use some of that

money to. yeah. to make to encourage a fitness program or a nutrition program for these actors rather than just don't say the word curvaceous because it's rude or trying to change the mindset of people who are possibly looking at that and saying, well, that's, you know, it's not healthy to be overweight. >> it's not to be unkind to people. but, you know, and i know there are some very few conditions where you can't control your weight. yeah, but but on a, on a sense of, you know, looking after your body and making sure that you are fit and making sure that you are fit and healthy to get into old age, you know, being overweight is dangerous, which is why everyone's just knocking back at the ozempic. >> yeah, exactly. i also, by the way, don't blame the individual. say there was a fat actor, the one that i mentioned earlier. i don't blame him. i think it's a systemic problem, one that is the normalisation of being fat and two is a lack of education in schools. people really people don't know how to cook anymore, marketing , the fact there's seed marketing, the fact there's seed oils and sugar crammed into the products that we eat and we don't even know about it because, you know, basically evil marketing managers have snuck that kind of stuff into our food beneath, you know ,

our food beneath, you know, beneath our very noses. it's all sorts of different reasons why people are fat, and it's not an individual thing. >> i don't think it could be the reason that they haven't actually cast at that fat guy before was because he wasn't good enough. so what are we talking about now that when you go to the theatre, it's not a meritocracy? so when you're paying meritocracy? so when you're paying your 40, 50, £60 in the west end and you've got a token actor there, are they the best person for that role? >> i don't even when i go to theatre, i don't even look at someone and think, oh, they're fat, they're this or that. i just think that is the actor playing that role. and that becomes a person. do you think that perhaps she's seeing it? obviously only from her own perspective, with her own sort of insecurities in her mind, thinking that everyone's looking at her and saying, oh, well, because you're overweight or this and that, because i don't go into the theatre with that mindset, you know, unless it becomes something that is so obvious. but i can't even imagine why i would think anything of somebody who's slightly overweight. to me, it has literally been normalised anyway. >> yeah. i mean, i bet you haven't seen that many overweight actors on the stage. i don't know if you have. there

aren't many. there aren't many because it's traditionally actors are very fit and slim and healthy people. i mean, maybe at the opera there's slightly fatter ladies, but i think but this woman is actually a plus size person herself. so it might be, as you say, that years of, you know, unfairly being criticised for her weight has affected her and also she's tried to monetise it because there's £10,000 in the budget, but you may be just finally going back to the fat guy who was sweating profusely. >> he obviously wasn't fit enough. no, that's that's he's going to be out of breath. that's going to affect his performance. and also it's going to affect how you feel about the performance and the £60 you just paid. >> maybe he was just hot and there wasn't enough air con. >> oh like sitting next to you in this oven of a studio. >> no, never. well listen, stay with us still to come here on gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. now. ruth ann phillips has said this in a statement. i can now formalise my work on making theatre more inclusive of diverse body shapes and embed an understanding of body image and fat phobia, ruth has also said on x i can. now

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good afternoon. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua coming up to 22 minutes after 4:00. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is a massive majority undemocratic? the defence secretary , grant the defence secretary, grant shapps, has voiced his concern that sir keir starmer's victory, which is impending as people are suspecting this will happen, could be so complete that his power would be unchecked, ultimately undermining democracy. that is, of course, in his view. many see the party pledged to secure the vote for 16 and 17 year olds as a ploy to entrench its voting base, and with some polls forecasting labour's win to be as much as 490 seats, they would have unrivalled legislative power. and because of britain's first past the post voting system, even without 50% of the electorate, the labour party could win a massive majority of seats and have unchecked

executive power. but as the will of the people. as for a labour victory, surely that has to be respected and is democratic. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking what do you think is a massive majority undemocratic? well, i'm joined by journalist jonathan lewis and writer and broadcaster emma woolf, political commentator matthew stadlen, and also neil hamilton . matthew stadlen, and also neil hamilton. right. i'm going to start with you, neil hamilton. what do you think a labour massive majority, 490 seats in total. >> yeah, well our electoral system is undemocratic in its effects isn't it. >> in 2016, 2015 ukip got 4.5 million votes in the general election and one seat, scottish nationalists got 1.5 million and they got 50 odd seats. and it looks as though in this election at the moment, reform are on 16% or so in the polls, which would give them maybe between 1 and seats. >> the lib dems on 11. >> the lib dems on 11. >> that's two thirds of the reform vote, but they would get 50 or 60 seats. so it's an absurd outcome and the system needs root and branch reform. it

doesn't represent the opinions of the majority of the people. i was in the welsh parliament for five years, and labour have always won the welsh parliament elections since devolution was created in 1999. yet we've never had a 50% turnout to it in wales since then , but half the seats since then, but half the seats on a third of the votes if the system is never going to, you know, we have what we have, which is unfortunate , i suppose, which is unfortunate, i suppose, with respect to that, it's unlikely that the leading parties will change it because obviously it works in their favour. >> matthew stadlen, what do you think? i mean, being almost unchallenged and there will be nobody else. no other party can really get close if that is the how it works out in parliament. they have over 400 seats. >> i was looking at my phone briefly there because i was fact checking neal, and actually i think it was in 2015, ukip won 3.8 3.9 million votes, not 4.5 million, but that doesn't really affect his point. i think voting , i think it actually reiterates his point that anyway, they fewer than he said it was fewer than he said.

>> yeah, but they still should have got something. >> voting reform is probably a conversation for another day. and we have in fact had a referendum on voting reform in this country. we've decided to stick with first past the post on this issue of the so—called supermajority, a new phrase that has sprung up during this campaign. look, this is just desperate tactics from the conservatives. i think it comes down from rishi sunak. he must have given it the go ahead, and it's because they are absolutely terrified of not just losing, but losing heavily. and they think the best way to claw back some votes from reform voters, but also in some constituencies from lib dems, is by frightening people into this idea that labour are going to get a massive majority people need. well, let me explain. >> no, no, no, i'm just i'm just i'm just saying that to according analysis by pollster survation of 40,000 surveys, labour are ahead in 456 seats. so that is you just said, you know, it's a tactic from the conservative party. so i'm just pointing out that a neutral poll has said 456 seats, very reasonable. >> so that's not tory tactics is it? what it is. but let me respond. that's a very

reasonable thing to point out. you're absolutely right to do so.the you're absolutely right to do so. the polls say the polls are, as they stand at the moment, are heavily in labour's favour. what i want to make clear is that laboun i want to make clear is that labour, just to win a majority of one, never mind a massive majority, a super majority , they majority, a super majority, they need a bigger swing than tony blair won in 1997 just to get a majority of one seat. so i would encourage people get out there, don't listen to this scare tactics, vote labour to make sure there is a labour majority. >> yeah, well you would say that though. you would say that. that's what he would say. emma woolf your thoughts on this massive majority , over 400 seats massive majority, over 400 seats in total, which would mean they'd literally be unchallenged i >>i -- >> i don't emma >> i don't think a massive majority is undemocratic at all, but i do think it's undemocratic. if millions of votes, millions of people's votes, millions of people's votes go without a voice, if millions of people don't have their voices heard and are not represented, i think it's pretty rich of grant shapps. i have to agree with my holding my nose. i have to agree with matthew on this, that actually is pretty rich of grant shapps after 14

years of tory government and, you know, basically facing tory extinction for him now to be saying, oh , you know, we're saying, oh, you know, we're facing a supermajority, he needs to deal with the issues in his own party rather than telling us what we can. >> that's all very well. that's all very well. >> undemocratic is when millions of people's votes are not represented in parliament. >> jonathan lewis well, i think the word stupid majority is a us term, that sort of means something that when you have over a certain number of, of seats and then you can override sort of presidential vetoes, etc. so we don't have a concept equivalent to that in this country . we just have a concept country. we just have a concept where one party can win a shedload of seats and not have the kind of checks and balances that exist in a much slimmer parliament, where the opposition mps are in greater number. so, for example, the parliament that we had until 2019 has been a very different parliament from the one since then when there have been a lot more government mps. but i agree with the

general consensus that we do need to change our electoral system. and i think what's interesting is that we're heanng interesting is that we're hearing a lot more voices. perhaps unsurprisingly , on the perhaps unsurprisingly, on the right, that are now coming out for electoral reform. surprise surprise. but they're the ones who are going to lose out from the current system. >> but you're saying it now and you're on the left. >> i've been saying it for years. >> i think lots of people have been saying this from the right and the left, but because it's because i'm sure the labour party at one point were pushing for, proportional representation . indeed. and now they've changed their, their view and now they're trying to get 16, 17 year olds to vote. who are more likely to vote labour, which i think there should be. if you're going to do that, there should be a referendum for that. >> i think there is a real problem, guys. i acknowledge this, okay? i don't want reform anywhere near parliament if possible, but nonetheless 6 million of us. it looks from the polls do want reform to have representation . and if they representation. and if they don't have any representation, if they don't even win a single seat , that's a problem, because seat, that's a problem, because you then have a chunk of the population, an important chunk of the population who feel

disenfranchised . and i suspect disenfranchised. and i suspect nigel farage will win his seat. and if he does, he will at least be able to be a spokesman for those people from within parliament. i agree it's a problem . i'm not quite sure what problem. i'm not quite sure what the answer is. >> well, you know, it's really interesting because under the european election system, we did have a more proportional system. and so under that system, which actually changed from first past the post to having a bit more proportional system in, i think sort of 2004, it was that the system changed from 1999. and so you did have a lot of ukip meps in parliament, but he wanted for those 14 and those of us who were in the european parliament, were in the european parliament, we could see just how lousy they were. and i think if you had a lot of hamilton, neil hamilton, you could see that you're talking about the ukip. >> neil. >> neil. >> they were so lousy that they forced the government to give us a referendum, which we won, and ukip won the ukip, euro elections in 2014, where i directed the ukip campaign . so directed the ukip campaign. so i'm satisfied with the results. i'm satisfied with the results. i mean, the problem is that the first past the post system works

reasonably well. if you've got a 2 or 3 party system where the system is fractured and splintered in the way that it's now become with the parties in scotland and wales and northern ireland and with with the reform as well as the lib dems, the greens and so on. it simply doesn't work because it produces randomised results and you can't predict the way that the seats are going to fall just by percentage of the vote that you get. you know, ukip got, as i say, 12, 13% in 2015 and got one seat out of six. you know, this is a completely insupportable system given the way that our electoral arithmetic has come to operate. okay, compared with when i was growing up. >> okay. so i've got to go to the news, but i'm going to ask you all then this question i want a yes or no is a massive majority undemocratic emma woolf no , matthew stadlen not going to no, matthew stadlen not going to happen. but it would be tricky if it did. yes or no, i think it would be difficult. >> so. so what are you saying? challenging. yes, it is jonathan list. >> no, not undemocratic, but not

good for politics. okay. >> and finally, neil hamilton. >> and finally, neil hamilton. >> yes. undemocratic yes. >> yes. undemocratic yes. >> okay. thank you so much for your thoughts. really good to talk to all of you there. listen, jonathan lewis, writer and broadcaster emma woolf political commentator matthew stadlen and also neil hamilton. right. this is gb news coming up to 31 minutes after 4:00. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. we will continue with the great british debate i'm asking is a massive majority undemocratic? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel. danny kelly and charlotte griffiths. still to come. my outside guest. we're talking highs and lows. lessons learned. who is she? she's a mystery . but first, she's a mystery. but first, let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> gnaana. thank you very much. just coming up to 4:32, and we'll start with some breaking news. just coming to us again from germany. this afternoon, where clashes are now being reported in gelsenkirchen , in reported in gelsenkirchen, in the west of the country. ahead of tonight's match between

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vote. good afternoon. if you've just tuned in. where have you been? no. welcome. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua just coming up to 38 minutes after 4:00. and let's continue with the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, is a massive majority undemocratic ? a massive majority undemocratic? now, the defence secretary, grant shapps, has voiced his

concern that sir keir starmer's victory could be so complete that his power will be unchecked, ultimately undermining democracy . although undermining democracy. although whose fault that is? let's not talk. let's not go there. i mean, you know, many see the party's pledge to secure the vote for 16 and 17 year olds as a ploy to entrench its voting base. and some polls are specifically a forecast in a tory ad forecasting labour to win 490 seats, they would have unrivalled legislative power. but if the will but if the will of the people is for a labour victory, surely that has to be respected . so for the great respected. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is a massive majority undemocratic? well, joining me now, my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, kelly cole, an editor at large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths wright, who did i go to first last time he was obviously torn about obesity. >> you came to me first. >>— >> you came to me first. >> i wasn't going to say efforts. >> i think it is undemocratic . >> i think it is undemocratic. and there's a great story in the mail on sunday today by brendan carlin, and it's a graphic and a

story about how there'll be so many labour mps that they're going to have to go and sit in the opposition benches. no and they're going to have a separate roped off area because there's going to be so many of them. and, you know, boris is calling it starmageddon. i mean, you can't have that many people that there are people in the opposition opposition benches. so i think i think it's not democratic. >> it doesn't sound right to me, but it's the failure of the oppositional who will be the opposition. by the looks of things, the conservative party, because they are in government now, surely, if that is the outcome, danny, it's democratic in the sense that that's how british democracy works, but it's also anti—democratic it's also anti —democratic because it's also anti—democratic because they can be drunk on their own power. >> they will just get whatever the hell they want through. and the hell they want through. and the only alternative to that would be proportional representation. and then you run the risk of just countless hung parliaments for time immemorial. but in the very essence, for the next five years, assuming that they they do win , then they are they they do win, then they are basically so autonomous that they don't care about any opposition. you know, they've got the lords on their side,

probably because that's my perception about the lords at the moment. i would say that they were very left rather than right. you've only just need to go back a couple of weeks with the, the, the bottleneck trying to get rwanda through. so i think it is anti—democratic, but it's paradoxical because it is british democracy that's got them there. >> but you could argue, okay, so if you look at the situation now, the tory party had it had an 80 seat majority. let's not go there as to how they've lost so many mps. but they had an 80 seat majority and they have been arguing amongst themselves. so the labour party are quite, quite factionists aren't they. so they've got their unions that they're arguing with that don't tend to agree with each other. they don't tend to agree with the rest of the party. you've got these sort of social sort of islington sect of the party. so they're fragmented themselves. >> they may not need the unions . >> they may not need the unions. they've got, they've got so many seats, they may not need the union support the union, throw money at the party. i get that, but they they will have so many seats then they are so powerful. they may not need to rely on

third party groups and organisations. >> they're suffering also from this thing, which is people want to punish the tories , don't to punish the tories, don't they? so they're voting for reform. now we know that no matter pretty much how many people vote for reform, even though there are a point ahead that they'll probably be one seat. so it's actually if you're a tory voter and you want a proper opposition to labour, you actually need to if you're to be tactical and to vote conservative and not give in to this sort of desire to punish them by voting reform. >> well, it depends, though, doesn't it? it depends whether enough people make the shift, doesn't it? because if enough people make the shift, then, as some people are saying, the tory party could become the third party, but it would take a real miracle for that. but you never know. but let's. but this shows nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voice, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. right. let's have a chat with john reid. john reid, there's a potential for one poll that says 556 seats. thatis one poll that says 556 seats. that is a independent poll by

survation, who said that the labour party could potentially have that which would give the labour party an incredible majority . is that somewhat majority. is that somewhat undemocratic in your view ? undemocratic in your view? >> definitely not. nana. good afternoon. no a majority of democratic votes, whatever it returns, you can't argue that it's anything other than democratic, can you ? i would say democratic, can you? i would say that if you've got a overwhelmingly large governing party, then it might be unfair on the people that oppose it . on the people that oppose it. for example, look what the tories have done in the last few years since they've had a good majority, they haven't exactly come out of it smelling of roses, have they? and that's why people are changing now . but i people are changing now. but i think if we live in a democracy, people should be allowed to vote for whoever and whatever that results in, then that's the will of the majority and that's the way our government works and that's the way it should go forward. well, you know , it forward. well, you know, it could be a danger to democracy though. john. john, thank you so much for your thoughts. that is the brilliant john beattie is our great british voice as ever.

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good afternoon. it's just coming up to 46 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. don't forget as well. you can download the gb news app. it is completely free. i'm nana akua and it's time now for world view . we'll go for world view. we'll go straight to tel aviv. let's get the latest from uri geller . uri, the latest from uri geller. uri, talk to me. what's on your mind? >> okay, so today nana, i want to talk to you about something thatis to talk to you about something that is a little bit different. it is something which really sickens me. and i think your viewers will probably agree. now, as you know, i'm speaking

to you from my museum here. i have memorabilia from hundreds and hundreds of famous people who i've known through my life. elton john, john lennon, elvis presley, muhammad muhammad ali and the list goes on and on and on. now celebrities are famous because they are great at something, but they cross a line when they start using their fame to spout one sided political views , especially about what's views, especially about what's going on here between israel and the palestinians . i never say the palestinians. i never say anything against ordinary palestinians. i only stand against hamas because they are terrorists. i want palestinians to live in peace and dignity. i support a charity here in israel that has saved the lives of thousands and thousands of palestinian children with heart conditions now , since the war conditions now, since the war started, two many celebrities think that they have become political geniuses this week bella hadid and you know her. one of the world's top models.

she posted on instagram that hamas made one of the rescue hostages a birthday cake. this is a lie . this is falsehood. but is a lie. this is falsehood. but it went to 60 million followers on instagram before it was deleted. it was deleted, but the damage was already done . damage was already done. meanwhile, susan sarandon in hollywood, she is a hollywood actress. she joined a pro—palestinian rally and chanted from the river to the sea. and that slogan , which sea. and that slogan, which means the annihilation of israel . now look, you remember i showed you this photo of eric clapton. just. just a few days. eric clapton hosted about his dear friend roger waters , who dear friend roger waters, who has said outrageous things about israel. now eric clapton, one of the world's biggest rock stars , the world's biggest rock stars, said in an interview recently. just recently that israel was running the world. please nana please charlotte church, charlotte church , what the hell? charlotte church, what the hell? what is she doing leading a

pro—palestinian demonstrations with a keffiyeh. you know, the arabic scarf around her neck. now the list goes on and on and on.and now the list goes on and on and on. and by the way, nana, i knew eric clapton. i had his picture and he signed the album in my museum on my right. but after the comments, i ripped it off my wall. you can see you can actually see the video now to all your viewers on my x feed. and i said that i would send it to gaza today, that album is on the way to gaza, where a tank can run over it. then i will hang the pieces back on my wall in the museum. look nana the point. i'm making is, and this is something i've always strongly believed. if you are blessed with fame and fortune and have millions of followers , and have millions of followers, then that comes with a big responsibility . it does not make responsibility. it does not make you a political genius and it doesn't make you a philosopher. so be kind, be respectful. do

not be inflammatory and keep your views out of this tragic war. so nana. finally, i would like to know what your viewers think. do they think celebrities should use their voice making political points? or please nana ask them to comment when this video gets on your youtube channel. nana. thank you again for having me. and to all the fathers all over. happy fathers day. i love you all. >> thank you. and of course those celebrities aren't here to defend themselves and they would probably argue that they are passionate about a certain cause and they're trying to send it to their followers. but obviously, we take your point. a lot of people make say things that are completely ill informed. thank you so much, uri geller. lovely to talk to you. that is the brilliant uri geller. right. let's travel over to america now and let's speak to the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge, paul ryan . so paul duddridge, paul ryan. so trump's business is to lose alcohol licenses. what's that about? what's happening with

trump ? trump? >> well, again, it's this, this process of , >> well, again, it's this, this process of, humiliation and defenestration of president trump that is going on in the american legal system, new jersey, where he has, golf courses and several businesses and hotels, etc. they are now seeking to remove his alcohol licenses from his businesses because obviously he committed the ultimate sin of running for president and winning. and so , president and winning. and so, that's all part of the process of, kicking his legs from under him. >> but yes, it looks like, they're seeking to remove his ability to sell alcohol liquor at his golf courses in new jersey, and what about the cnn? because they're announcing rules for the first debate on june 27th. i mean, we're having them here with our leaders. so it seems they're starting early in america. >> they are. well, it's actually a very good point. they're starting them before. i don't think we've had presidential debates before. >> the candidates have actually

been , selected in the convention been, selected in the convention because technically we both know we all know that it's trump versus biden, but actually it's not official yet, which is why you get the rumour about biden stepping down, because technically, they're still not the actual official candidates until they have their conventions. >> and you tend to have debates , >> and you tend to have debates, tv debates after the official party conventions . party conventions. >> but this is an exception. >> but this is an exception. >> and we're having the first debate on june 27th, and cnn are hosting the first one, and they've made some rules which are muting them. >> and both parties have agreed to this. >> biden and trump's people have agreed to this, muting the mic of the person that isn't speaking. >> i don't know who that's directed at, but the great thing is no notes. >> they can't take notes with them. >> so oh, god, tune in on the 27th. >> oh, exactly. they can have a they can have paper. they can have pen and paper, probably tissues and wipes, i don't know, but they can have pen and paper and a bottle of water. >> that is it. >> that is it. >> but they cannot have notes. >> but they cannot have notes. >> so it will be trump versus biden or are they going to have other people debating? how can

how can joe biden even be able to debate? i mean, he barely knows where he is. he's usually wandering off somewhere . but wandering off somewhere. but yeah, okay, let's talking of biden, he's wished president trump a happy birthday, isn't he ? >> ?i >> it 7- >> it was m ? >> it was trump's birthday 7 >> it was trump's birthday on friday, that's why we had all the bunting around my house and the bunting around my house and the fireworks, etc. but , he. the fireworks, etc. but, he. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> biden gave a snarky, happy birthday greeting and sort of pointed out a lot of the foibles that he sees with, president trump and pots and kettles doesn't even come into it. it's extraordinary. but yes, he was having a snarky dig at trump now being older, 78 years old and facing sentencing on july the 11th for apparently book keeping . so this is, what a country and hasn't hunter biden dropped his lawsuit now against her? >> rudy giuliani yeah. >> rudy giuliani yeah. >> well, so hunter biden this week found guilty of three felonies, his father, joe, says it's the evidence of a weaponized judicial system. go figure. it's extraordinary. so joe biden now acknowledges that

the, judicial system is weaponized because his son has been found guilty on three felonies regarding a gun sale in 2018. at the same time, coincidentally , hunter is coincidentally, hunter is dropping the lawsuit that he had against giuliani , claiming that against giuliani, claiming that he'd manipulated the information in his laptop. so hunter biden's laptop is now back in play, and everybody officially agrees it exists. and now giuliani apparently didn't manipulate any of the, digital information because that lawsuit is being dropped. >> yes. very interesting . it'll >> yes. very interesting. it'll be fascinating. i can't wait for these debates. paul the tories, thank you so much. that is paul duddridge, host the politics people podcast. this is the gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, my outside mystery guest. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello and welcome to your gb

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reported ahead of tonight's euros match between england and serbia . that's in western serbia. that's in western germany. videos posted on social media show. police in riot gear responding to what's been described as a violent incident in gelsenkirchen , with a brawl in gelsenkirchen, with a brawl breaking out at a restaurant. the trouble is starting hours before the game begins, with kick off set to start at 8 pm. tonight. right? well, those scenes come just hours after german police shot a man who was armed with an axe at a euros fan zone in hamburg. officers say the suspect was also carrying a molotov cocktail, which he tried to light before approaching several people, including police. that incident happened dunng police. that incident happened during a dutch fans parade ahead of the clash between netherlands and poland this afternoon. we now know the attacker is being treated for his injuries, former police sergeant harry tanger

says security is tight, but authorities in germany are well prepared. >> if you're in a public area and somebody's got an axe or a knife , if they're very knife, if they're very aggressive and mobile, there's amazing how much damage. as we already know from a previous germany attack , how many people germany attack, how many people can be hurt and even killed , if can be hurt and even killed, if you can't isolate that person away from the public or isolate the public away from that individual, then that leaves very few options. so they're thinking about it. they're not just running around thinking, come right, let's find this guy and shoot him. and what is the most minimum force we can use which does not put the public or other officers at risk ? other officers at risk? >> police are launching an appeal for a man suspected of killing a child in a hit and run in coventry . they're trying to in coventry. they're trying to find 21 year old dallas alexander's, who's wanted on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . 12 year old dangerous driving. 12 year old kehon dangerous driving. 12 year old keiton slater was hit by a black bmw just after 430 on friday

afternoon . police now urging afternoon. police now urging anyone with information to come forward . a police officer who forward. a police officer who drove his car into a cow has been removed from front line duties. and a warning we're about to show a video that does contain images of the injured animal. surrey police has started an internal investigation into the incident and has now referred itself to the police complaints watchdog. the animal's owner had called for the officer to lose his job. the ten month old calf is now recovering and in a barn after being hit by that marked response vehicle in staines in surrey, on friday night . the surrey, on friday night. the tories are being warned today that they face electoral extinction, with polling firm savanta saying time is close to running out for the prime minister in a separate poll for the times newspaper, survation says the conservatives could have their lowest ever vote share under rishi sunaks leadership , predicting the party leadership, predicting the party will win just 72 seats in next month's election. it's also

forecasting labour's on course to take 456 seats, surpassing the 1997 landslide and reform uk expected to get seven seats. transport secretary mark harper told us the conservatives, though, are still up for the fight . fight. >> nobody's voted in this election yet and we also know from the polls if we're going to quote them, a record number of people. i think 44% of the electorate haven't yet made up their minds about who they're going to vote for. it's exactly the reason why we come on shows like yours to make the case about a conservative government with the programme that we've set out for lower taxes, dealing with migration , a fully costed with migration, a fully costed programme for government , well, programme for government, well, health is at the forefront of the labour and liberal democrats election campaigning today, after accusing the conservatives of what they've called a crisis in cancer care , sir keir starmer in cancer care, sir keir starmer is promising to cut waiting lists to double ct and mri scanners and provide 40,000 extra nhs appointments each

week. >> meanwhile , the lib dems are >> meanwhile, the lib dems are proposing a £1 billion boost for radiotherapy equipment, which would add, they say, 200 machines and cut waiting times. sir ed davey, who's personally who's personally affected by cancen who's personally affected by cancer, also wants to see a legal guarantee that patients can receive treatment within 62 days of an urgent referral , days of an urgent referral, ukraine has been told the european union will stand by the country for as long as it takes to secure peace . the majority of to secure peace. the majority of 90 countries to take part in a two day summit in switzerland have signed the final declaration today, calling for nuclear plants and ports to be secured under ukraine's control. for food not to be weaponized and for all prisoners of war to be released . president volodymyr be released. president volodymyr zelenskyy says he's now hoping for quick results and we don't have time for prolonged work. >> moving to peace means acting fast. preparations will take months, not years, so when the

action plans for peace are ready and when every step is worked out, the path will be open for the second peace summit and thus for ending this war. for a just and lasting peace . and lasting peace. >> and finally, some royal news for you to mark father's day, kensington palace has released a new photograph of prince william and his three children. it was taken by princess catherine in norfolk last month and has been shared with a special message from prince george from princess charlotte and prince louis, saying we love you, papa and earlier, the prince of wales shared his own throwback photo to celebrate father's day. it was taken together with the king in 1984, when william was just a toddler himself, and it shows him playing football with his dad in the gardens of kensington palace . for the latest stories, palace. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen. or, of course, go to our website gb news .com/

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british debate this hour, i'm asking our children not a priority under labour. this comes as the education secretary , gillian keegan, has warned that the labour party's private school policy is reckless and that the labour party do not care about children . then for care about children. then for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking our children not a priority under labour. and for this week's mini debate, drivers have been warned of large price hikes hitting electric vehicles following an uplift in tariffs by the european union. is it time to park the electric dream as ever? some of your thoughts gb views .com forward slash your safe . .com forward slash your safe. right. so every sunday i am joined by a celebrity, a former mp or someone who's had an extremely interesting career. we take a look at life after the job. we talk highs, lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside. and this week, my outside guest is a prominent english journalist known for her tenure as the editor of the daily star

newspaper . herjournalism career newspaper. herjournalism career includes notable stints at women's own magazine and the sun, where she worked as a feature editor and later as a woman's editor. she joined the daily star in 1997, rising to the position of editor, and currently she continues her association with the magazine and as a columnist, and is a regular talk radio host. she's a devoted supporter of west ham. somebody has to be. did you work it out? it is, of course, journalist broadcast from colleague dawn neesom ella toone. thank you . toone. thank you. >> not even my dad ever said anything that nice about me. so thank you very much. nana so lovely to be here with you. >> well, thank you very much for joining me. i've got to say, i keep getting messages on my facebook asking about your suits. they go, where does she get her suits from? >> so as long as you name three, we'll be fine. >> where do you get. what about this one? >> you're wearing this one. i get a lot of my suits. i pay for them all by the way, none of them all by the way, none of them are freebies. i get a lot from hobbs. i get a lot from the kooples. and occasionally, if

i'm feeling flush somewhere like zigi and voltaire. so. but i do pay zigi and voltaire. so. but i do pay for them all. i don't get any freebies because i'm too stupid to run and managed to negotiate that. but. but thank you. >> you're certainly not stupid. i don't think anybody would be foolish enough to make that assessment of you, dawn. so talk to me about you thing, because you're always here. you're talking about everything else apart from yourself. so where were you born? and what's your you know, what's your background? >> i'm from east london. i'm from a very working class background. my dad drove lorries, my mum cleaned people's houses and worked in factories. so, the thing is, what i do for a living being a journalist, no one in my family ever did anything like that. and kids from my background, certainly kids born in the 60s, were never expected to do stuff like that. i mean, i didn't go to university, as you probably know, and my education was just basic, bog standard, comprehensive in east london. so it's nice to be able to do something. and what i try to do nana as much as possible is to encourage other young journalists, especially young female journalists, because i think it's still a particularly tough arena, certainly on national newspapers for young women to, to make their way in

and all this stuff about, oh, it's all equality and it's just, it's all equality and it's just, it's not, not that easy still. and for young women, it is still quite difficult. so i try to sort of like, you know, encourage other young women to do what they can in journalism. we've got some pictures of you as a child, dawn. >> oh my god, where do you get this? >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> so who's that on there. is that your mum? and then there's you. >> that's my baby sister. oh, your baby sister. >> so you're the tall one i. >> so you're the tall one i. >> yeah, i am, and that was a christmas. and that was, i think i'm guessing i think i was probably about 8 or 9, maybe ten in that picture. but but that's my first typewriter. that's just really embarrassing. >> oh, wow. so you got a typewriter when you were very young? yeah. was that one of the things that sparked you into journalism? >> i always know i always, this is god. this makes me sound terrible. i always wanted to be a journalist. i actually wrote to. do you remember marjorie proops, who used to be the agony aunt on the daily mirror? i was probably on that typewriter. i wanted to be a journalist since i was a little kid. i've got no idea why. to this day, i've got noidea idea why. to this day, i've got no idea why. i said no one was

involved in the business whatsoever, and i wanted to try out for christmas. and i wrote to marjorie proops, who was the agony aunt in the daily mirror. she was one of the few high profile female journalists back in the day. and this is probably early 70s. i mean, she was the agony aunt. and that tells you what it was like for women back in the day. and i asked her how i wanted to be a journalist. you know what, nana? she actually took the time to write back. >> did she? what did she say? >> did she? what did she say? >> she just literally just advised, just never give up and keep trying and never be told. no. she was really wonderful and my mum, bless her, is still with us. thankfully still has that letter. oh really? i know, i know, it's fascinating. it was it was lovely. but i mean that's what it should be about. it should be about there's this myth on on certainly on fleet street on newspapers that if you are a successful female journalist, you, you backstab and you pull the ladder up behind you. what i've always tried to be about is, is keeping that ladder down so that other young women can come through because it's still not enough women in journalism. and i really am a fierce fighter for women making their way. certainly in newspapers, it's still very male dominated. how many female newspapers are there? simply had? not many. >> so what was it like for you

then, as you obviously something you're passionate about, you know, getting women to get into the business, helping them out if they need advice and things like that. what was it like for you then? because it sounds like people only do that if they had a tough time themselves. >> well, it wasn't, to be honest with you. it wasn't that tough. i i tried to forget the fact that, you know, that i was a female and just thought of myself as a journalist. so i didn't think, oh my god, i'm a girl, i can't do this, but it what was interesting, certainly my first proper job on national newspapers was on the sun, and i was in my very early 20s, and it was in my very early 20s, and it was quite daunting. it was quite scary, and there were several very senior male journalists who the first thing they would do to any young female that started would ask them out for dinner. now, thankfully, i also got married very young, so i could actually say no, my husband wouldn't like it. so i had a very good excuse, but that was back in the day. i think things are slightly better, but yeah, it was amazing how many older men who really should know better, married with children, etc. you know the drill now, do

you know what it's like? would ask you out for dinner, but yeah, hopefully. hopefully it's slightly different out there now. young ladies, i doubt it. yeah yeah. >> maybe it's the women asking the men out now. >> well, yeah, actually that's not a bad thing either, but, but no, it's not. as i said, i sort of like, just thought of myself as a journalist rather than a woman. >> so during your career as well, you must have had some real highlights. what would be your what would you say was the best thing that ever happened? >> so, so many, i've been very lucky to have a varied career. obviously sort of like, you know, i was lucky enough to cover the conflict in bosnia and spend time out there, really seeing what it was like on the ground and there was one particular this stayed with me. i mean, obviously bosnia was 1992, early 90s, and we were we'd just come back from the mass graves that were found out there. and i was sitting in the back of one of the troop carriers with some very i mean, i was only young, obviously, with some very young soldiers and nana there was i was the only girl there, and one of the young soldiers actually started crying on my shoulder. it was

probably the same. he was probably the same. he was probably younger than me , probably younger than me, slightly, because he was missing his mum so much, and it really brought me home what it was actually like. yes. they're highly trained. yes they were doing a job, but it was like they did the emotions that they went through of sort of like, you know, discovering mass graves and, and going to these beautiful villages in the mountains where people just were slaughtered, it was, it was really. and then i was lucky enough also to cover, the genocide in rwanda as well. and incredibly privileged to go to the orphanages out there and meet some of the kids who'd seen their entire families butchered before their eyes and they were just kept in touch with one lady who was working in an orphanage for a long time. she passed away recently, sadly, but that was an amazing. so the thing is, with journalism, it's different now because so much journalism is done on laptops and just sort of like, not actually out on the field doing the job. so i do feel for youngsters coming through , but lucky enough to through, but lucky enough to travel to some amazing places and meet some many amazing people. but i was thrown out of

china. >> why were you thrown out of china? >> well, it was it was two years after tiananmen square and we were out there for a completely separate reason. i was covering a completely separate story, and i was there on a journalist working visa, so i knew i was there. but for some reason, i wanted to go and see the great wall of china, and they suddenly thought, well, hold on, why do you want to do that? well, because i want to go and see the great wall of china in china, and so they they suddenly thought, right, okay, you're here to cover the second anniversary of tiananmen square. not true at all. so they, they then confiscated my passport. all the money i had on me put me in a government run hotel where they locked the door from outside. basically a prison, and then they. and then they put me on the very first plane back to hong kong. wow. yeah that was the. they don't mess about that. they don't mess about. so to this day and that was obviously the early 90s as well. i still don't know if i'm allowed to go back to china. i haven't tried to be fair. >> what would you what advice would you give to any sort of young aspiring journalist who young aspiring journalist who you know what, never, ever give up. >> it doesn't matter what background you come from to a certain extent, what education

you have. and i don't think you i don't subscribe to this view that everybody has to have a degree. i mean, i learned on the job, i didn't go to university. i don't have a degree, but i think that some of the best journalists have come through the background of actually learning on the job what they do. and i would just say you never give up trying. i mean, i think, you know, if you if you believe in yourself and you have obviously the support of your family and your friends, i think you can achieve anything. and certainly young women , you certainly young women, you really can achieve anything. and it does annoy me so much that women in particular are constantly still put down and it should be changing. nana and it isn't. and that annoys me. >> and my final question, which you talked about your mum, she was a cleaner and everything. are you super tidy then? and do you do are you a cleaner? >> it's a i am basically a scrubber. >> my mum was a scrubber. my nan was a scrubber. yeah. it runs in the family and yeah , i am super the family and yeah, i am super tidy, but i'm lucky enough to have a husband who's also very good at it. >> as well. i was gonna say, if you get a moment, you can pop down to my house and clean it on dawn neesom. thank you so much.

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gillian keegan right? our children not a priority under labour claims made in the telegraph that the education secretary made , she warned that secretary made, she warned that the labour party's private school policy is reckless and that the labour party do not care about children. of course, this comes after the labour party confirmed in its manifesto this week that it will end the vat exemption for independent schools, which could add 20% to fees. if the schools do so. it is charged to the schools though, but let's be fair to the labour party. they also came up with some things in their manifesto for nurseries for and also school breakfast clubs and so on and so forth. so the great british debate this hour i'm asking is gillian right? our children not a priority under labourjoining me now to discuss journalist julie cook. also labour spokesperson on james matthewson james matthewson. it's only fair to start with you , ask children not a priority under the labour party. they've had a few ideas that would be supportive, but a lot of people would say that this one regarding vat is not is this a new angle they're trying to get

to attack the policy that they think is going to annoy most people. >> now, the very telling thing about this, which is fascinating, is that the tories think that this is something that bothers a lot of people, and it just simply isn't, because the majority of people do not send their kids to private school because they do not have the money to do so. >> it's not a question of whether people think they would, if they could, because everybody believes the opportunity should believes the opportunity should be there. >> keir starmer has been vocal about that, but if you do so and you can afford to do so, then you can afford to do so, then you should pay tax on that because they are private businesses that make money. >> and we are in a situation where state schools require the funding for very specific things. >> you don't get to get away from that, i'm afraid. unfortunately, tax is a part of life. it's a part of how we levy and raise funds so that we can spend money on important things and ring fencing that for state education, of course, it's vitally important , gillian education, of course, it's vitally important, gillian king, because she's wrong. >> she's wrong, okay. >> she's wrong, okay. >> well , just to pull you up on >> well, just to pull you up on a couple of things on there, it's not just about the kids, though, is it? let's be honest, there , unions are concerned that there, unions are concerned that teachers could be out of work. a

couple of schools have already closed, and the obr are concerned that it may not actually raise any money it might cost the taxpayer. julie cook well, yeah. >> i can't believe i'm here. i'm actually standing up for private schools because i was, educated in the state system . i'm in the state system. i'm completely working class, but my kids now go to an independent school . i never thought i'd see school. i never thought i'd see the day i'd be doing this, but i am standing up for the kids in private school. and i do think gillian keegan is right. >> and the reason being that there is a huge misconception in this country that private schools are children, like the children at eton, wandering around in top hats and tails and in the independent sector. >> on the whole, that simply isn't true. there are hundreds of smaller , cheaper private of smaller, cheaper private schools like the one my kids go to, but there's a huge send send proportion of children who need special educational help, who simply don't get that in the state sector. so it's hard working parents who have scrimped and saved in order to send a child to a place where they'll get more one on one help. and i know personally, in the last couple of weeks, through the fear of what's coming, several mothers who've

said they're taking their children out of that sector and putting them back in the state system because they won't be able to afford the increase. so what i'm saying is this, this, this misconception that everybody's wandering around like boris johnson at eton, it's not the case, james. >> you can address that because you kind of alluded to it that, well, people should pay for it and this and that and the other. but there are some children with special education needs who are not covered by any exemption. >> yeah, you're correct. >> yeah, you're correct. >> and it's horrendous that the state of send provision is in such a state sector that many people who have the ability and like you say, people who, you know, might be really stretching their means to send their kids to private schools and independent schools because they know the send provision will be better because of the state of the state sector provision for send, because i know for a fact where i come from in in northumberland, which is, you know, one of the biggest counties in england , you've got counties in england, you've got that provision. >> they have to go outside of the county, so they have to commute an hour to get any kind

of provision, which is horrendous. but of course, the way we fix that is by getting better investment in the state sector and those with the broadest shoulders have to bear the brunt of that cost , i'm afraid. >> well, julie's shaking your head. nobody would potentially deny that those who can afford it. but she's shaking her head. i think because you've just made the point again. she's telling you that these people haven't necessarily got the broadest shoulders. julie. >> exactly . >> exactly. >> exactly. >> they don't have the broadest shoulders. there are people at my school, for example, who are gas men and plumbers and nurses and people who have either. perhaps i don't know if there's a sneering thing to say. maybe they've inherited some money, maybe they've saved some money. maybe they've got a husband who earns money. i don't know, it doesn't matter how these people get their money. this isn't bolshevism. they should be allowed to spend their money how they want. and i think it's worrying that this is the start of a very slippery slope. why don't we charge people to have a ferrari on their front drive? why don't we tax them? why don't we tax them to make hundreds of millions ? millions? >> i think that might be coming. >> i think that might be coming. >> school sector. >> school sector. >> we do we do tax them the pay

that the pay vat on the car. like that's the point is that you pay like that's the point is that you pay tax on things that you buy with your money when you have the money to do so. this is a private service and that you're paying for it. there is provision there at state school that you choose not to take up. now, i understand that why that might be for some people, especially when it comes to send provision. but let's get that provision. but let's get that provision right. let's make it good. and then nobody has to send their kids to private. that's all very well with small businesses. and then they're passing on the cost. let's not forget this tax is on those businesses. it's not on the parents. >> there it will be though. >> there it will be though. >> it will be sent to the parents. >> well, that's because the school is choosing to pass it on to you. if that's the case, you need to take that up with the school because there shouldn't be doing that. >> look, the issue is that it might not even raise the money that they want. so if the obr come out and say it doesn't raise the money, surely they should reverse it . do you not should reverse it. do you not think so, james? if it doesn't raise the money, that's the whole point of it . and also, if whole point of it. and also, if you're going to levy the vat, you're going to levy the vat, you could have done it on new

people who've never been to those schools starting or or did it in a sort of instalment ii type thing or somehow stagger, stagger, stagger it a little bit because otherwise it is directly affecting the schools. julie. it's directly affecting the children. if it's a sudden thing, a sudden 20% on, there is a lot to bear for the parent. is it not? >> truly it is, it is. and going back to the broader , broader back to the broader, broader shoulders. the broader shoulders are people who own you know, companies turning over several millions and billions, not the average everyday person who just happens to have, have, have saved some money or earned a bit more to choose where to spend their money. and it's not like, and you jo cox at me when i said taxing ferrari's, what i'm saying is it's not a frivolous outgoing to central chartered private school. it's a choice and a human right. and what i'm saying is people who go there are not all oligarchs. they are not. and what will happen is a lot of them will leave. they'll go into the state sector, they'll flood the state sector. so we'll bring it down. they'll there'll be 40 in a class, 50 in a class, and the private schools will be filled with russians and chinese. >> what do you say to that,

james? because you were talking about the esther state schools, even, you know, the state sector is not ready. surely my point was, you'd stagger it to wait to these things already to accommodate these kids. they're not ready, are they? these other schools? >> i think the ambition of what they want to achieve in the state sector and frankly, the deficits that are there for schools in the state sector and how desperate they are, can't wait for something like a staggered system. i mean, julie saying there that like it's a human right to send your child to private school. no it's not, it's a luxury. it just simply isn't. there is state school provision. you've chosen not to use that. it's like private healthcare. you've got an nhs that's there for you . you've that's there for you. you've paid for that through your taxation already. you could use that. taxation already. you could use that . you've chosen not to, so that. you've chosen not to, so julie, final word here. you're shaking your head. >> yeah, well, i'm just saying i don't think i don't think it's considered a luxury. it's a choice that people have made a luxury is a red ferrari on the front garden. a luxury is ten holidays a year if you're choosing, particularly with the second cohort, to send them to a school where they won't be overcrowded , but they'll have overcrowded, but they'll have

one on one help, that's not luxury. >> it's not a luxury. >> it's not a luxury. >> all right. listen, thank you very much, julie cook and also james matthews from really good to get your thoughts. what do you think gbnews.com/yoursay i'm going to read some of those. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news coming up. we'll continue with a great british debate this hour. i'm asking our children not a priority. under laboun children not a priority. under labour, you'll hear the thoughts of my panel broadcast from journalist danny kelly and editor at large of the mail on sunday. charlotte griffiths. but first, let's get your latest news headlines. >> very good evening to you. it's just after 5:30. the top story from the newsroom tonight. the clashes are being reported ahead of the euros match between england and serbia in western germany this evening. videos posted on social media show police in riot gear responding to a violent incident in gelsenkirchen with a brawl breaking out at a restaurant. the trouble is already starting hours before the game begins, with kick off set for 8:00 tonight. well, those scenes come

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dan azeez here. it's time for the great british debate. this houn the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking is gillian keegan. right? our children not a priority. under labour claims made in the telegraph, the education secretary , gillian education secretary, gillian keegan, has warned that the labour party private schools policy is reckless and that the labour party do not care about children. now. this comes after the labour party confirmed in its manifesto this week that it will end the vat exemption for independent schools, which could add 20% to fees as early as september. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is gillian right? are the labour party not making children a priority ? well, joining me now a priority? well, joining me now to discuss my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and editor at large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths . i'm sunday, charlotte griffiths. i'm going to start with you, charlotte. >> so i've been in the mail on sunday. i've been reading up on some little stats, lady starmer herself, lady victoria starmer paid , £26,000 a year for her paid, £26,000 a year for her education. she went to channing, an independent girls school, not an independent girls school, not an eton, obviously, because eton's boys only, but not one of

these super mega ones. it's an independent school in north london, and the fees are £26,000 per year. now, over the course of the junior and senior school, parents at that school will now have to find an extra £70,000 per child with with vat. and i think it's a really good piece in the mail on sunday because it shows the hypocrisy of all this andifs shows the hypocrisy of all this and it's such an ideological point from keir starmer, i think, and it affects teachers because teachers are now going to have to battle bigger class sizes. so he doesn't care about teachers and labour doesn't care about middle class children because , you know, it's the because, you know, it's the middle classes that have something to aspire towards sending their kids to, to, to, to state school, to private schools. and he doesn't care about state school children because they are going to be swamped with pupils from those small middle of the road independent schools. and i'm not talking about eton here because it's true what wes streeting says, that eton probably won't pass on those savings . and if it pass on those savings. and if it does, the kind of pupils there who are oligarchs can probably afford it. but it's those middle schools, those independent ones like channing, that are really going to be hit. >> although labour might argue

that they are doing something for children because they have talked about launching breakfast clubs and also having i think it's 3000 new nurseries within schools that already exist. so they might argue that this is just one thing. and actually this particular policy might fund all that. and that's what they might see. >> danny kelly, it's socialism , >> danny kelly, it's socialism, isn't it? they got wealthy families to pay for families that aren't wealthy or the perception of wealth not everyone's minted who sends their kids to school. it's not disposable income that mums and dads are spending. and also one of your contributors earlier on made a blanket statement that all private schools are businesses and need to respond to shareholders. that's just not factually correct. that's just untrue . and whilst people have untrue. and whilst people have that mindset that it's businesses who are benefiting , businesses who are benefiting, then we're not going to develop then we're not going to develop the conversation. most of them are charitable status schools. and if they make any money at the end of the at the end of the financial year for the furtherance of that school, they may build a tennis court, they may build a tennis court, they may build a new school. may build a tennis court, they may build a new school . and it's may build a new school. and it's for the furtherance rather than for the furtherance rather than for shareholders . and it was for shareholders. and it was interesting with the guest earlier on that the labour guy , earlier on that the labour guy, he he is incorrigibly with his

mindset . he he he is incorrigibly with his mindset. he just sees people making money. and that's what the problem is. not everybody in private schools are there to make money. >> well, the point he did also make was that 97% of children go , 93% of children go to state schools, and only 7% go to these private or independent type schools. yeah. my point was, well said. to hell with them. because what happens to them, charlotte, do you think that that's a little bit unfeeling for that 7? i think that is a bit unfeeling. >> i mean, my kids go to state school, but we aspire. we do that thing, that very middle class thing state till eight. so we were hoping to use the first eight years of my daughter's life to save for her senior school years. and that's kind of gone out the window now. and each of my children cost the state about £7,000 a year, a bit more, actually, just under eight. so in total, my three children are going to cost the state sector £23,000 a year now because we, my husband and i have decided we can't afford to just go that little tiny bit extra to send our kids to an independent school, which is what we were hoping for. but

it's just that tiny sliver that we actually probably won't be able to afford. now >> it's the expansion of the classes as well, isn't it? you know, mums and dads will tell you in various parts of the midlands and the north, there are 3540 kids in a class now. there's going to be some kids. they're overspill, if you like, from the private sector . they're overspill, if you like, from the private sector. mums, dads can't afford the extra 20. and now all of a sudden the classrooms are going to burgeon to say 45 or 46, you know, and emily, emily, what's her name? >> thornberry. she's very dismissive . wasn't she? dismissive. wasn't she? >> casually dismissive? yeah. and she was put on the spot by a gb news presenter. i can't remember the name. i think it was camilla tominey. i can't remember, but it made it made national news because basically she was backed into a corner and she was backed into a corner and she had to accept that the mums and dads kids were going to have to go to the state sector. and those classes were going to get big and big and bigger. >> and she said, didn't she? she said, oh, well, maybe for a while there'll be a few more children in the class. now my, my daughter is at a school and there's 30 kids in the class. it only takes one child, disruptive child to push the class over the edge. and my daughter's teacher,

i've actually seen her in tears because they had a very disruptive child. all this year, and it completely disrupted the whole year group because there wasn't enough extra support for this teacher who was doing her best to manage the 35 year olds and six year olds. and then this one extra disruptive child , you one extra disruptive child, you know, bless him, he had his own issues, which actually , of issues, which actually, of course, there wasn't enough support to take care of him ehhen support to take care of him either. and it only takes one extra child. and emily's saying, well, there might be an extra five, ten, 15 children in a class, but they also put the point forward that class sizes are actually shrinking because of the population. >> so we had this burst of young people , but now the birth rate people, but now the birth rate has fallen, so there are fewer people coming up through the system. >> so it depends on the it depends on the area. by the way, this is going to affect the birth rate. my husband and i are going to have a fourth child and we decided definitely not to now because there's no way we can afford any of these of our children to go to a independent school. so we're sticking to three probably wise. >> i mean, the idea would be to get the state sector on a par

with the private sector sector, which is what i would rather they focused on, and they can take money from other things. but this shows nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing, right? where should we go to? who should we start with first? right. lee webb, what is your thoughts on that? is this not nice for the children themselves ? is this a children themselves? is this a bit unfair? i think we're on a i can hear you all. hold on. >> one of you . >> one of you. >> one of you. >> so i can hear stuff in the background. >> i think we're in a day when labouris >> i think we're in a day when labour is as big as plan is to get children to brush their teeth. give a free breakfast and do some vat on private schools. >> we should be doing a lot more laboun >> should be offering a lot more of this choice, sort of like things getting apprenticeships going for when children leave school, technical and vocational, technical and, apprenticeships should be on par with academic courses and things like that. >> this is what labour should be concentrating on, not brushing teeth, not telling people to how

change nappies, not giving free breakfast and certainly not changing charging vat for private schools. >> well, i think one of the policies was also to set up a load of extra nurseries as well. i think a couple of thousand extra nurseries at schools as well. that was one of the policies. but i don't know. gareth wyn jones, what do you think? >> yeah, i think the nurseries are a good idea, but look, education is key and we need apprenticeships, you know, talking about a lot of the lads around here, businesses are struggling to get people, as in electricians, carpenters . electricians, carpenters. >> everybody's going to university and then they're coming out and stacking shelves in tesco's and morrisons. >> you know we need people on the tools as well. and i think you know, education and getting them on these apprentice schemes would be a great thing going forward. building a better britain together . britain together. >> well what about the funding though? they're talking about vat on private schools gareth. that's where they're going with this, do you think that's a wise way, a wise idea ? way, a wise idea? >> well, i don't think it is, to

be totally honest with you, a private schools and a lot of other schools, you know, the higher end of these schools, it won't bother them. it'll be the intermediate ones that will be struggling to pay that. and i think, you know, the people that will be sending their children there won't send them because it'll be an extra cost. again i think we've got to be really careful with what we do with, educating the next generation, making sure it's fair for everybody , private or public, everybody, private or public, agreed dan bryan . agreed dan bryan. >> well, let's not forget that if you're going to put vat on private schools, these people are now paying tax twice because they're taxed anyway for the private schools with the vat . private schools with the vat. >> and they're also taxed for the education system. the comprehensive system. so really i would like to look at reducing people's tax burden so that we can encourage more parents who can encourage more parents who can afford it to get their kids into private school and therefore we would relieve the burden on the state schools.

it's not rocket science. we should be encouraging people and not penalising them for aspiring to go to a private school . to go to a private school. >> right. let's go to mark sheridan. he's a new voice. he's there in chester. mark sheridan, what do you think? >> hi, there. yeah, i think , >> hi, there. yeah, i think, under labour, children are not a priority , you know, and, when priority, you know, and, when you look at research now of lots of parents who've got children, who've got learning, you know, difficulties, you know, when you think about if they send their children to private school, they're given a greater opportunity to be in an exam. an exam will be longer with that. you know, if a child's got autistic or dyslexia, then they're given the opportunity to actually , you know, pass that actually, you know, pass that exam, when i think back now, many years ago, when i was in the military, i was , part of a the military, i was, part of a cadet training team, and i was visiting private schools, and i just saw the opportunity of these children in, in development of life skills, leadership , teamwork, all these

leadership, teamwork, all these great things . now, they were great things. now, they were given to these children. not by wealthy parents, but by parents that were going out and sacrifice was the key word. well, you see, that's that's that that is the point, mark. >> a lot of people are sacrificing a lot. mark sheridan well done. he's a great british voice. that's his first time. very good. thank you so much. really good to have you on board, thank you to lee webb, gareth wyn jones and also dan in harlan. he's wearing his hat again. right. so, next up, supplement sunday. well, my and i discuss of the news stories

right. well, welcome. if you're just tuned in. why? we've only got ten minutes left. you should have got here earlier. but it's time now for my quick debate. drivers are being warned of large price hikes hitting electric vehicles following an uplift in torrance. tariffs from

the european union experts stated that the price of chinese made electric cars could force brands such as tesla to raise the price of its vehicles when selling across europe. is it time to park the electric dream? joining me now, of course, danny kelly and charlotte griffiths. danny kelly with my used car dealer hat on and my motoring journalist hat on, electric cars i think are generally speaking, unpopular. >> people feel that they're being forced into something they don't want. i'm speaking generally because there's lots of fans. if you unless you live in a detached house with your own drive and you've got your electric charging port, you're going to suffer from range anxiety. i've driven 96 miles down from the west midlands. you always get that in and 96 miles back you'd have to stop a few times and i wouldn't have the, the, the confidence of doing it in a leaky car. it's as simple as that. the traffic coming down to london was awful. it was a warm day. i had the air con on and i would have to turn the air con off at night. if you're in a traffic jam, you got to turn the lights off. everything that drains your batteries like a mobile phone, whatever drains

your battery, you're up. you've got to remove the apps like the same to you. >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> i also think electric cars are dangerous because they're so heavy. so if a car hits you, first of all, you can't hear them. it's way more impact on them. it's way more impact on the human being it hits or the cat or whatever. and also potholes. do they cause potholes? they do and they cause particle releasing from their tyres because they're so heavy. they just grind through the tyres and obviously don't really agree with importing stuff from china unless we need to. why can't we make our own cars? >> it's not even it's not even efficient is it? your important the stuff from china. how do you think it's getting here. yeah. gas. yeah. diesel driving themselves fossil fuels. right though now time for supplements sunday with the panel. and i discuss some of the stories that caught their eye. and start with you again, danny. briefly. you've got about 30s. >> well, i'll tell you what, i don't know whether you two are thrill seekers. you look like you're a thrill seeker. maybe go to thorpe park, eight roller coasters, brand new roller coasters, brand new roller coaster stuck like that. can you imagine for an hour, 236ft. just stuck. you over the edge. horrible. >> charlotte. >> charlotte. >> horrendous. charlotte, you're your supplement. >> what's yours? >> what's yours? >> mine is the king charles standing next to kate on the

balcony, going shoulder to shoulder. these guys know a lot about image. so they were shoulder to shoulder and she's not out of the woods yet. also posed underneath a tree. it was very deliberate imagery . and it very deliberate imagery. and it goes to show that unlike what prince harry says, this family does rally around their own when it matters. and the narrative that charles is uncaring and that charles is uncaring and that the royals are at war is kind of erroneous, actually, because when it matters. charles was there for kate and he didn't stand next to her on the balcony last year, but he did this year. >> oh, bless his heart. i love them all right. and mine is. this is amazing. a brilliant £400 headset worn for few a few minutes a day can apparently heal a broken heart. oh, isn't that wonderful? it sends electrical impulses through your head or electric shocks. >> i wish i had that when i was dumped. >> i think they tried that many years ago. those electric shock treatments. no thank you. >> and that's £400. headset sends electric pulses or your heels . heels. >> have a lobotomy and forget all about your. how about that together? >> well, just find somebody else or go shopping. that's fine. that works quite well. well, listen, on today's show, i've been asking is a massive

majority undemocratic? according to our twitter poll , 55.6% of to our twitter poll, 55.6% of you say yes, 44.4% of you say no. and i asked, is gillian keegan right to say children are not a priority under labour? according to our poll, 72.6% of you said yes, 27.4% of you says no. well, listen, thank you so much to my brilliant panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. thank you danny. and also the editor at large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths, for joining me today. and as forjoining me today. and as even forjoining me today. and as ever, a huge thank you to you for your company. it's been a pleasure. as ever. i look forward to seeing you next week. same time, same place, 3:00 on saturday. next up, neil oliver, but i'll see you with the weather. have a good week . weather. have a good week. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. we're

expecting heavy showers on tuesday, but by the time we reach midweek , there'll be reach midweek, there'll be plenty of dry weather around, even some sunshine across most of the country. for the weekend though, we have had low pressure draped across the uk, which has generally brought an unsettled picture. plenty of rain and showers and it's this low pressure which is pushing this area of rain into northern parts of england. by the time we reach this evening, generally clearing across scotland with a few showers creeping into the north, but across central areas and in the south. plenty of clear weather overnight, which means it's going to feel a little bit cooler. may even start to see some mist and fog develop by the time we reach monday morning. and then across the north. generally milder where that cloud sticks around. so to start on monday, then we are going to start to see some showers feed in across scotland, which is pretty much the setup for the rest of the day. a little bit dner rest of the day. a little bit drier across northern ireland and parts of northern england . and parts of northern england. just some spots of rain and drizzle, mainly across hills, but elsewhere across central areas of the uk. southern parts of wales and down across the south coast, there'll be plenty

of bright sunshine to start the day. generally, though, monday is going to be quite an unsettled day. plenty of sunny spells and showers . the odd spells and showers. the odd shower could be heavy at times as well. in the northeast may even hear the odd rumble of thunder, but generally across the south and southeast it's going to be largely dry and we'll even start to see some sunshine by the time we reach the afternoon. and that's where it is generally going to be warmest highs of 22, maybe even 23 celsius, depending on how much sunshine we see. but elsewhere, temperatures generally around average where that cloud sticks around for tuesday , then once again tuesday, then once again generally an unsettled day with those sunny spells and showers. these two could be heavy at times in the northeast, and the southeast catches the most of the driest weather as well. and that's where temperatures once again are going to be at their highest. generally though, from midweek onwards, turning drier with some sunshine . and that's with some sunshine. and that's it from me. bye for now . it from me. bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb

once more to the neil oliver show on gb news tv , on radio and show on gb news tv, on radio and online. on tonight's show , online. on tonight's show, political apathy yes or no? ahead of next month's election, i'm asking, what's the point of even turning up to vote? and as world leaders meet to sign more cheques to fund ukraine and the war with russia, i'll be asking when, if ever , we can expect when, if ever, we can expect this conflict to end. all of that and more in the company of commentator and chairman of

republicans overseas uk, greg swenson. but