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hearing, it's been a record day for migrants crossing the engush for migrants crossing the english channel in small boats. today, gb news can reveal that at least 750 illegal migrants arrived in uk waters today, surpassing the previous one day record of 711 on the 1st of may. that means more than 41,000 migrants have now made the crossing since rishi sunak promised to end the crisis in january last year. and that comes as an election debate over immigration took place tonight , immigration took place tonight, with seven representatives from the main political parties taking part on channel 4. reform uk's chairman richard tice addressed the record number of small boat crossings today to pick people up out of the boats and take them back to france. >> that will stop the deaths. that's the compassionate thing to do that will stop the illegal trade. under the 1982 un convention of law at sea, france has international obligations in order to pick people up and take back their failing in those obligations. we're entitled to do that. that's the kind thing
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to do. it will stop people dying. >> and in a development this afternoon, nigel farage said he'd abolish the tv licence fee, which funds the bbc. the reform uk leader was speaking during a town hall style event this afternoon. it comes as the bbc said it would allow reform to take part in an extra question time leader special, after mr farage's team complained they hadnt farage's team complained they hadn't been included. well, the prime minister faced questions from farmers today on a visit to devon rishi sunak . from farmers today on a visit to devon rishi sunak. he argued that reform uk couldn't deliver on any of the party's promises because, he said, a for vote reform uk would only help laboun reform uk would only help labour. rishi sunak said it had been a privilege to understand the contribution farmers make to society before then going on to warn that 40,000 jobs could be lost as a result of labour's manifesto. meanwhile, labour said it'll bring face to face banking back to the high streets with 350 new hubs in towns and
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villages across britain that would see staff from several banks sharing the same location helping fill gaps left by branch closures. the consumer group, which says more than 6000 branches have closed since 2015 and the liberal democrats were on the road today. electioneering as well. they're promising to spend £10 million every year to tackle the practice of sewage dumping by water companies. new quality inspectors would work as part of a newly created clean water authority, they say . and sir ian authority, they say. and sir ian mckellen has said he's looking forward to returning to work as he thanked the nhs staff who care for him after he fell off stage during a performance in london's west end last night. the 85 year old, acting veteran was performing a fight scene in player kings at the noel coward theatre when he lost his footing and tumbled right off the stage. the theatre was evacuated while sir ian was taken to hospital. tomorrow's show has also been
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cancelled while he recuperates, although he is expected to return in time for thursday's performance. we wish him well. that's the news. for the latest stories. do sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on the screen or go to gb news. common herts. >> welcome along. rishi sunak is massively under the cosh today. more than 41,500 illegal immigrants have now crossed the engush immigrants have now crossed the english channel since. he said he'd stopped the boats and he has resorted to desperately trying to cling on to any seat he can. visiting farmers in west devon today, where there is a tory majority , apparently of tory majority, apparently of 25,000, and then a farm as well , 25,000, and then a farm as well, with mixed results . with mixed results. this is a defensive campaign. why is he not being more aggressive? ex chancellor kwasi kwarteng thinks he should be.
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>> we need to, fight a more aggressive campaign. i think keir starmer is a man of the left. very much so. and he's obviously trying to pretend or portray himself as something more akin to a centrist politician. and i think it's the job of the conservative party and particularly the prime minister who's going head to head with keir. sir keir, to point that out . point that out. >> well, some people will be saying that there is a heck of a lot to go at when it comes to labour leader sir keir starmer. he wanted to abolish the monarchy. >> i often used to propose the abolition of the monarchy . abolition of the monarchy. >> he signed a letter calling for foreign criminals to avoid deportation . in one of those deportation. in one of those people is ernesto elliot, who went on to kill a man with a machete. sir keir starmer thinks it's wrong to strip shamima begum of her citizenship. >> i think the decision was by the home secretary was the wrong decision and i think it was a rushed decision and i think it left out of account the
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interests of the newly born child who's tragically died. >> he absolutely supported jeremy corbyn today as well. he said that he would have happily served in his cabinet had they been successful . been successful. >> would you have taken a cabinet post? >> look, nick, it's a hypothetical. i didn't think we would win. but look, if we'd got it over the line, there were important things that i thought needed to be done from the front bench to continue and complete. on the brexit work, to make it absolutely clear that the labour party never deviated from our position on nato . position on nato. >> well, his name reportedly appeared on a communist spy list after he went to a work camp in czechoslovakia at the height of the cold war. like a normal person, he took the knee for black lives matter, and today he appears to have suggested that he'd allow veterans in their 70s and 80s to face prosecution for things that may or may not have happenedin things that may or may not have happened in northern ireland, but would not repeal the letters of comfort offered to ira terrorists. >> nobody should be put in court if there isn't the evidence that
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properly put through by the prosecutor , probably in their prosecutor, probably in their 80s, certainly in their late 70s, but you want to see them in court. >> meanwhile, the letters of comfort go to the other side. >> no, the letters of comfort went to a number of people, but not well . nick, i would invite not well. nick, i would invite you to come with me, perhaps to northern ireland, and speak to the victims who say, how is it fair for us speak to some of the veterans. >> how is it fair to them ? >> how is it fair to them? >> how is it fair to them? >> well, labour also wants to make it easier to change gender, which might mean more men in women's changing rooms and rishi sunak as well, appears reluctant to raise any of this , doesn't to raise any of this, doesn't he? and why isn't he mentioning sir ed davey at all? as far as i can tell, the tories are set to lose a load of seats in the blue wall to the lib dems, according to current polls and he hasn't gone after them once a vote for the lib dems is now a vote to pave the way to rejoin the european union . european union. >> conservative party have so poisoned britain's relationship with our nearest neighbours, our allies , they've undermined trust
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i >> -- >> the postmasters are still furious with sir ed davey. we'll be speaking to one of them a bit later on in the show . be speaking to one of them a bit later on in the show. he be speaking to one of them a bit later on in the show . he also later on in the show. he also wants votes for 16 year olds as well. the latest polling on this shows that 47% said they oppose the idea. 28% are in support. so again, he could go after that a bit more, couldn't he? rishi sunak doesn't seem to want to raise any of this stuff. is kwasi kwarteng right? does he need to be more aggressive and go for the jugular ? let's get go for the jugular? let's get the thoughts from our panel this evening. i have got political correspondent at the spectator. it is james heale. i've also got political commentator suzanne evans, a former labour mp. steve mccabe . and james, i'll start mccabe. and james, i'll start with you on this. i find it absolutely baffling that rishi sunak seems reluctant to raise any of the open goals that are on offer here. >> absolutely. and if i was in cchq tonight, i'd be clipping up the exact two minutes that you started the show with and playing it repeatedly on every channeli playing it repeatedly on every channel i could, because exactly. >> there are big questions about keir starmer, about what he stood for as a politician. and i
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think right now you need an energetic campaign, because this isn't so much about is keir starmer going to be prime minister? he is going to be prime minister. it is rather a battle for the future of the conservative party, and whether the tory party is going to be a viable electoral force after july the 4th. >> susanna, you don't think he wants to win? d no, i don't i've said this before, patrick, and i'll say it again, i think rishi sumac has given up. >> i think he's realised the job is not as quite as glamorous and exciting as he thought it was going to be. i think he realises he could make a lot of money now he's become prime minister on the speaking circuit as an adviser to business all kinds of charitable organisations, so on and so forth. i think he's desperately had enough. and the, as you and james have both said, you know, there is a long list of things that he could be going after both labour and the lib dems on, particularly the lib dems, because of course, i think they stand to be more likely to win in some of the stronger conservative seats. so i'm in a lib dem constituency at the moment. you know, we had this pathetic leaflet through the door talking about the nhs and potholes, which are not the responsibility of national government anyway. nothing about their policies . also like labour their policies. also like labour wanting to bring in palestinian refugees to britain, wanting to
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help people to change their gender identity and so on, and so forth. not to mention the tax and economy issues which the labour manifesto is frightening on tax, the economy and it's very anti—democratic too. >> steve. the fact is , is it >> steve. the fact is, is it not, that keir starmer is asking us all to believe that he's a different bloke to the person he's been for the last 40 years? why is rishi sunak not having to go in for that ? go in for that? >> well, if i was rishi sunak, i'm not sure i'd be taking advice from kwasi kwarteng. i'm not sure how many people would take advice from that source. look, i think rishi sunak has tried to pick a fight with almost anybody you can imagine . almost anybody you can imagine. he's picked a fight with boris johnson, he's picked a fight with him , a braverman. he's with him, a braverman. he's picking a fight with nigel farage, he's trying to pick a fight with labour. i think people are point. people are fed up. well he is, he's not. he's just not very good at it, is he. because he keeps getting caught out for fibbing. but i think people are fed up with that sort of routine. i think people have had enough. i think they're already bored with this kind of election, and i don't think it
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would do him any favours at all. >> you know, you must know keir starmer. you know, you've been in the labour party for a heck of a long time. it must be rubbing his hands with glee. i mean, blm taking the knee hasn't come up once for me. my begum has not come up once i haven't seen any mention at all of this letter of him trying to keep foreign criminals in the uk, one of which at least one of which went on to commit a murder. for goodness sake. you know, he's flip flopping on starmer wanting to continue historic prosecutions of veterans. i mean, this this would be stuff that keir starmer can't just explain away now unless he's saying he's had a personality transformation . transformation. >> well, it's very difficult to pick isolated incidents about any individual. but i mean keir starmer has set out the record that he's fighting on. he's set out the manifesto that labour are offering and that's what people are going to make their judgement on. and just because rishi sunak is floundering around at the moment, that's his problem , i don't know. it's problem, i don't know. it's interesting. i think steve does make a very interesting point about the fights he's picked with within his own party. too often i think party party politics can be about fighting
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your own people, and you're not focusing enough on the opposition. i've certainly seen that. i think in most political parties at some time. there is a lot of internal politics, and actually it doesn't do any party any good. they should be focusing on the opposition. and he isn't. >> we talk. we've spoken a lot about, you know, keir starmer's record and the absolute open goals that there would be to at least press him on. you know keir starmer you know has and no doubt would attempt again to justify all of these these accusations against him. but my point is he's not actually been made to really and i find that quite bizarre, especially when you look at the polling. but james, what about the lib dems? i mean, they've completely taken their eye off the ball when it comes to going after sir ed davey or the liberal democrats, haven't they? >> absolutely. and i was just listening to that very brief clip you just showed there. i mean, it's nonsense to think that our relations with europe isn't great. last year we saw uk trade with the eu was at the highest level for 15 years. we've also seen under rishi sunak a great relationship with bilaterally with people like meloni of italy. we've also seen a great sort of coming together on different issues about small boats crossings that hasn't been effective in terms of result. but the point is, you know,
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they've done a huge amount in sort of post—brexit in terms of building up those relationships with the uk and eu. the point is, is that i think the liberal democrats have had it far too long, too easy in the blue wall right now. and i think a lot of mps are going to be fighting to save their seats and the kind of short campaign when a long term effort would be much more effective over the past two years or so. years or 50. >> years or so. >> yeah, i do find it baffling. i do find it baffling. but thank you very much. we're off to a lively start here. it is time now though, for the great british giveaway. your chance to make this summer really special with over £16,000 worth of pnzes with over £16,000 worth of prizes to be won. so it's £15,000 in cash and a whole host of treats for you as well. you have to be in it to win it, don't you? and here's all the details that you will need. >> there's still time to win our summer spectacular with an incredible trio of treats, and you could win them first. there's a fabulous £15,000 in tax free cash to ensure this summer is special. what would you spend that on next? you'll also receive the latest iphone 15 and a set of apple airpods. and finally , £500 to spend at and finally, £500 to spend at your favourite uk attraction for another chance to win the iphone
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on this show shortly. but up next, as labour frontbencher jonathan reynolds refuses to rule out hiking taxes for airline passengers, will a labour government make your holidays more expensive? former labour defence minister ivo kaplan weighs in. before the director of the climate media coalition, duncan mccarthy , and coalition, duncan mccarthy, and co—founder of the climate debate uk, ben pile, go head to head. stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up, a former subpostmistress hits out at sir ed davey's campaign antics after he ignored her pleas for help dunng he ignored her pleas for help during the post office scandal. i think he's been getting off rather lightly so far this campaign, hasn't he? but first, could labour be about to make your holiday abroad more expensive? it's time for the head to head. so the shadow business secretary, jonathan reynolds, today refused to rule out an increase in the air passenger levy, as well as a potential hike in fuel duty in the future. can you rule out a change in council tax bands in the next parliament, or a change in capital gains tax rates in the next parliament, or a change in fuel duty in the next parliament, or an air passenger duty in the next parliament? >> you can't rule those things out, can you? well look, we're not going to write a budget for
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a few years time during a general election campaign, but we've been absolutely clear where revenue will come from to pay where revenue will come from to pay for public services and absolutely clear about the argument we're making, which is for a stronger economy that benefits all parts of the country. >> that is our industrial strategy, our green prosperity plan, our changes to planning. so we get things built. these are tangible measures that will make a difference. >> well, last year labour came under fire after calling on ministers to reverse their plans to cut air passenger duty on domestic flights in half from £13 to £6.50. but jeremy hunt clearly listened to those protests because in march he announced the tax will rise in line with inflation from 2025 to 26. britain is a global leader, believe it or not, when it comes to taxing travellers and the £88 we are charged for flights between 2000 and 5500 miles is streets ahead of other countries, including almost double that of germany since it was introduced 30 years ago. the total amount of tax collected each year has risen nearly tenfold . so, as a labour tenfold. so, as a labour frontbencher refuses to rule out
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raising the price of your trip abroad, would a keir starmer government now make your holiday more expensive? let me know your thoughts gbnews.com/yoursay. tweet me @gbnews and make sure you go and vote in our poll and we are going to be joined by the director of the climate media coalition, jonica mccarthy, and co—founder of climate debate uk, ben pile , very, very shortly. ben pile, very, very shortly. but before that, i wanted to get more of a political voice on this. with former labour defence minister ivor caplin. i have a thank you very much. great to have you on the show. so labour, labour's going to make holidays for the poorest in society more expensive are they? >> i don't see it like that, patrick, at all. i think what labour has done has been the right thing. it's said income tax, national insurance , vat tax, national insurance, vat will all be the same and all the other kind of very small. they are smaller taxes. they say they need to be dealt with as as jonathan said this morning, by taking a view in the longer
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term. and that's really down to the potential new chancellor . if the potential new chancellor. if labour is, big enough and strong enough to win the general. >> i think the party, the working class though with respect tarver, i thought they were the party of the working class, you know, and making people's lives more miserable. if you're if you're a family of four who just wants to go to alicante, for example , and you alicante, for example, and you want to get on a jet2 or a ryanair flight and you whack them with an additional bill, i mean, it's not going to win you votes, is it? >> but everyone knows that there is a for bill getting on a plane at the moment. that's £6.50, it should be £13.50 because that was the rate . it was. well, why was the rate. it was. well, why should it be? well, because you've got to be able to manage the full economy here. you can't just have an economy that that just have an economy that that just allows you to go, oh, this is this is okay. this is not okay. you've got to be able to do things differently to the
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last 14 years. >> but why is it, oh , sorry. >> but why is it, oh, sorry. i just don't understand why travellers have to pay more. i mean, it's not it's not a climate to me. me or someone who's, you know , someone from who's, you know, someone from birmingham who decides they want to go and have a week in lanzarote. i mean, they're not they're not causing the climate crisis . why are they paying more crisis. why are they paying more for this under labour? >> no, i it's not about climate crisis. this is this for me is about how labour can make sure it can, manage properly. the, the longer term of five years ahead of us, if we are lucky enough to win the general election. that's the key thing. and part of that is to is to say, well, actually, we could change that amount so that everyone knows what it is. and as you just write it said on your introduction , you know, your introduction, you know, jonathan, jeremy hunt actually changed, the suggestion by the current government. so it, it's down to us to, to follow that through and to be prepared to
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take that forward. and i think i just wonder is it is it is, you know, the, the allegation against someone like keir starmer is that actually, you know, he's a kind of he's a, he's a rabid socialist. >> he's just not telling anyone about it. and i just wonder whether or not actually he sees things like foreign holidays as a luxury for the bourgeoisie , i a luxury for the bourgeoisie, i don't think you know, people can go on holiday. of course they can. i think, more importantly, what labour has set out in the last few few weeks as absolutely clear on on those big three that national insurance income tax on the smaller ones. and i don't you know, want to call it that on the smaller ones like, for i don't think there's a problem with putting some of that on and everyone can manage their own situations , i think. and i think situations, i think. and i think that's good for labour. all right. >> look, thank you very much. always a pleasure. to great have your your strong political voice there. that is former labour
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defence minister ivor caplin. right. let's get stuck into the head to head now then, shall we? i'm joined by the director of the climate media coalition, donald mccarthy, and the co—founder of the climate debate uk , ben powell. shapps, thank uk, ben powell. shapps, thank you very much. great to have you both on the show. look, ben, i'll start with you. do you think that this is a good thing? why should passengers have to pay why should passengers have to pay more tax to get on an aeroplane ? aeroplane? >> no, it's a terrible thing. and of course it's always more and more and more tax and, it's and more and more tax and, it's a sin tax , isn't it? a sin tax, isn't it? >> rather than explaining, you know, rather than defending this wonderful freedom that people of our generation, recent generations now have to go and experience the entire world and to take in the culture or just to take in the culture or just to take in temperatures that are that are just a few degrees, perhaps more warmer than they are here, this is now regarded as something that needs to be punished and, and eliminated to the maximum extent possible. and i think this is the problem of, i think this is the problem of, i think this is the problem of, i think tax is always the last recourse. it's always because there is no carrot. all of our
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mps, all of our so—called democratic representatives have have taken the view that emissions reduction targets must take precedence over everything else. and that includes understanding how they're going to deliver it. so when as soon as they get into power, what they discover is there's no there's no means to actually deliver these emissions reductions. so the only thing they can do is fine. and i'll come back to you. >> i'll come back to you. donna, you know, keir starmer took a private jet to scotland the other week. and this is exactly what we're going to see. isn't it? it's normal common people on the street getting clobbered with an extra, whatever it turns out to be. you know, the rich just carry on, don't they? they get the private. >> well actually actually that's not the situation with this one. >> patrick, what's very interesting, what is proposed by the liberal democrats , green the liberal democrats, green party and the cross party committee on the environment committee on the environment committee are proposing a frequent flyer tax. what does that mean? it means that poor people who are taking a flight, as you say, to the sun holiday ,
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as you say, to the sun holiday, don't pay anything extra, no tax extra. but the frequent flyer of the problem, 50% of britain do the problem, 50% of britain do the patriotic thing. they houdayin the patriotic thing. they holiday in britain . the other holiday in britain. the other 50. some of them take up to 10 to 15 flights a year. and that causes massive problems because aviation is 7% of our carbon emissions. now, what the interesting thing is being done interesting thing is being done in this general election, i find from the from the lib dems and greens is they're proposing this tax on the richest will be fund to for poor people who have been absolutely hammered by the destruction of the bus network in britain under the tories, 50% of the bus network was destroyed or we need to do is to use the money from the rich flyers to restore rural bus services. the pensioners in rural areas have been hammered by the destruction of the bus service, and i think that's a really interesting about this new approach to environment, is we tax the high polluters, the rich people and use that to fund poor people to live a more sustainable and better lifestyle . better lifestyle. >> okay. well, ben, i mean, just come back to that then, i
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suppose what is the case against the super rich who take what, whether it's a yacht or or gas guzzling yacht or, you know, private jets and all of this stuff. all people have gone 5 or 6 holidays a year. and what is the case against them paying more to travel so that poorer people can do more of it, i suppose. >> well, i think what .uk is talking about is replacing a tax with rationing and okay, he says that's a tax, that's a ration , a that's a tax, that's a ration, a rationing or a tax that's going to afflict the wealthiest. and the people that fly the most. okay. so yeah, five flights a yeah okay. so yeah, five flights a year. that sounds terrible. and most people would sort of sense the social justice, as it were , the social justice, as it were, in that argument. but five, five flights a year will become four, four will become three, three will and so on. and so forth, in exactly the same way that in vat , for example, has risen from 15% to 17.5% to 20. so these things are always slippery slopes. these kind of taxes are always increased , sin taxes always increased, sin taxes especially, you know, taxes on behaviours that the government disapproves of are always
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incremental and never have any ceiling. and there's never really any principle at, at being offered about where that limit, that limit lies. being offered about where that limit, that limit lies . and, and limit, that limit lies. and, and so i'm not i'm not convinced that that sort of shifting the emphasis in this way does anything. i mean, it might it might sort of stir up a politics of envy, but it doesn't. >> i mean, look, look, danica, you know, with respect, you know, plenty of people out there , they, they, they don't want to just holiday in britain every single year. they don't want to only eat, you know, locally sourced vegan dinners. they don't want to, you know, have to sleep on a bed of moss in a cave every single. oh, come on, britain is better than that. patrick slightly. but, you know, i don't think you're. i don't think your politics are a million miles off that danica. are they really? so i mean , why are they really? so i mean, why why should why should people who work very hard, who already pay an astronomical amount of tax, actually be asked to pay a bit more because, you know, someone who fills an aeroplane full of jet fuel. and by the way, we'll continue to be a multi—billionaire like michael o'leary or someone like that. why should dorothy from number 45 have to pay more?
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>> well, first of all, i'm very clear. the frequent flyer doesn't tax people who take their holiday to the sun. it doesn't. secondly, why shouldn't we must understand that we're in a climate crisis , that 70 to 80% a climate crisis, that 70 to 80% of people want us to act more? and what's really interesting about the frequent flyer attacks, it's a popular tax. when it's being polled, people say, yes, rich people should pay for the damage they're doing and help poor people have better bus services. i think that's a really good deal because only because only only a month. >> this is one of these polling questions that only a monster answers no to, isn't it? it's like, do you want to see less murder? yeah we all want to see less murder. but you ask when people and people are people are actually asked about the practicalities of themselves because people can voluntarily pay because people can voluntarily pay more tax. .uk not many people. >> look, there's a serious economic issue here as well, as well as the climate disaster, the economic issue about flights and holidays is that it's a net loss of £26 billion. the british economy. what do i mean by that? rich people who take 10 or 15
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flights a year, they spend their money abroad and for people in the tourist industry abroad, whereas actually the people in the industry in the uk suffer because of that. if we could transfer some of that 26 billion so spent abroad , do the so spent abroad, do the patriotic thing and holiday in the uk, we do two things. we benefit the british economy and we tackle one of the highest sources of carbon emissions, which is my your optimism. >> but but you are not going to get simon. i'm pro—britain you're not going to get simon cowell holidaying in a caravan in skegness any time soon. i'm sorry. >> there are beautiful hotels in britain . stop talking down britain. stop talking down britain. stop talking down britain. patrick. you should come with me and see a beautiful hotel in in the seaside resorts of britain . there's some of britain. there's some stunning hotels here. >> only if we can have twin beds. right. but you very, very much all right. that is the is the director of climate media, carlton mccarthy and co—founder of climate debate uk, ben pilot. look, who do you agree with here. would raising air passenger duty be fair rachel, on excess pricing people out doing things is an appalling way of tackling the climate change. jerry says , i guess labour have jerry says, i guess labour have got to cover their spending
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somehow. so i suppose raising air passenger duty could help . air passenger duty could help. so mixed mixed bag here. jamie says this will just make poorer people unable to fly and wealthy people unable to fly and wealthy people will carry on as normal. isuppose people will carry on as normal. i suppose that's the fear, isn't it? that is the fear. but your verdict is now in 51% of you agree that it would be fair for labour to raise air passenger duty. 85% of you say that it wouldn't be. i suppose it is, to be fair, one of those things that we would have to wait and see how much per plane ticket it really hit you in the pocket. but the slippery slope argument is there, isn't it? coming up a decade after malaysia airlines flight mh370 vanished into thin air, is the mystery that bewildered the world now about to be solved? aerospace engineer and founder of mh370 search.com, richard godfrey explains why an underwater signal is a new development. this might finally bnng development. this might finally bring closure to the victims families. plus it kicked off in the stands at euro 2024. well,
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our england fans being unfairly stigmatised as hooligans. hooligans. there wasn't a brit in sight there. but next, former subpostmistress seema misra, who was jailed whilst pregnant dunng was jailed whilst pregnant during the post office scandal, hits out at the man seemingly trying to stunt his critics into silence . yeah, she speaks out silence. yeah, she speaks out for the post office victims still awaiting justice after being ignored, as they say, by
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next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. still to come. could a british university be about to solve the mystery of flight mh370? we speak to an aerospace engineer who's dedicated to revealing the truth. later, after a major breakthrough. but first, sir ed davey has seemingly brushed off his role in the post office scandal as he continues to lead the lib dem election campaign with numerous bizarre stunts like these . bizarre stunts like these. >> well, give it a good tap. yes, that's right, everybody watching the news channel right now is going to be summer. >> outfit is complete without a pair of sunglasses. >> yeah. cool dad. cool dad and also. yeah. look, i heard . also. yeah. look, i heard. >> everyone's just lapping it up, aren't they? but those
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affected by the shocking miscarriage of justice caused by the horizon software scandal are still impacted to this day, with one of them accusing him of buffoonery and saying it's really , really, really important really, really, really important that we trust him and trust is never going to be built by swinging around on ropes or paddle boarding. in cumbria, trust is about engaging with the people that need that engagement well. davie served as postal affairs minister in the coalition government between 2010 and 2012, a period in which innocent subpostmasters were wrongly prosecuted by the post office, and he refused to meet with alan bates. he's been the subject of the itv drama as well. i welcome now seema misra, a former subpostmistress who was jailed while pregnant back in 2019. seema, thank you very, very much. how sorry 2010. apologies. how does it make you feel when you see ed davey getting a full makeover on national television and everyone just lapping this up? >> i know it's just a publicity pubuchy >> i know it's just a publicity publicity stunt, isn't it? >> we know the elections are
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here, so just just want to see tell that we are here. but that doesn't work. >> do you think he's getting an easy ride? what would you like? yeah. what would you like to ask him ? him? >> well, no. definitely not. basically in 2010, when i was sent to the prison, my mp, mr. jonathan lord, he wrote to mr ed davey saying that this is what happened to seema misra invoking, i think we should look into horizon and he just got a standard reply back. that honzon standard reply back. that horizon is robust and everything and till now date . horizon is robust and everything and till now date. i'm horizon is robust and everything and till now date . i'm pretty and till now date. i'm pretty sure he hasn't even acknowledged that that he was wrong or nothing like that at all. instead of like sorting the mess out, they just having a fun and having a publicity stunt. >> yeah, non—stop publicity stunts. can i just ask you to outline, please, to our viewers and listeners , exactly what and listeners, exactly what happened to you in 2005? >> are both the west byfleet post office and then 2008 i was suspended , because of the theft suspended, because of the theft charges and false accounting. and then 2010 because i pleaded
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not guilty for the theft charges , i was sentenced for 15 months because the jury came back with a verdict guilty on my eldest and 10th birthday, being eight weeks pregnant, i was sent for 15 months. >> so you were eight weeks pregnant and you were sentenced to 15 months in prison. do you mind me asking ? you know what mind me asking? you know what happened then? were you behind bars when , when you. when you bars when, when you. when you had to give birth or what was it ? >> 7- >> soi 7_ >> so i was, ? >> so i was, behind bars for four months due to good behaviour. our released early on tag, which means i gave birth with a tag on. >> it'sjust with a tag on. >> it's just bonkers, isn't it? >> it's just bonkers, isn't it? >> and mr ed davey knew about it because my mp wrote to him that this is what happened to me, and he ignored you. >> he. as far as as far as you're aware, he ignored you. yes. right. okay and he's interesting because that hasn't really come up at all. this election campaign has it? i'm sir ed davey could potentially be the leader of the opposition in a few weeks time. >> true. and they they need to sort of so much mess out and all
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that. they know like they like they innocent lives were ruined because of the scandal and everything still happening. but like because of the other election pressure or whatever, they just try to ignore it. >> i it's interesting because it appears to me anyway that, you know, the establishment media can potentially be bought off. i mean, you know, if you get on the lib dem battle bus, he'll take you to cumbria and you can watch him go paddleboarding, or you can go to the beach and you can play around with some sand castles or, you know , you can castles or, you know, you can say, oh, i'll come on your television show and i'll get made up like a supply teacher and put the shades on and all of this, and no one's saying to him, well, hang on a minute , can him, well, hang on a minute, can can you account that time when you were in power and it went really badly wrong for a lot of people like yourself , can you people like yourself, can you can you account for that? i mean, what what would you like to say to sir ed davey if he was here sitting next to me right now? >> well, first of all, like he can't ignore that he didn't knew about the cases because as i
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mentioned, my mp, mr. mr jonathan lord, he wrote to him as well and he and he ignored and saying it's robust until now just ignoring it. okay. they're doing some promises okay. they will look into the horizon this and that. but it's a time for action. now. you know, we heard so many false promises each and every victim need to be. they need to get the compensation sorted sooner rather than later. and proper accountability. need to be there. actual culprit. we need to go behind the bars. >> what kind of compensation are you after? >> no, not at all. they can call it compensation of own money, which post office nicked from us. so yeah, i'm still waiting for my full and final compensation . compensation. >> okay, sorry, i wasn't quite sure. is there a particular number that you're after? >> no, it's like that . that's >> no, it's like that. that's for my accountants to deal with it, but, like. yeah, yeah , no. it, but, like. yeah, yeah, no. >> fair enough. we'll we'll wait and see. wait and see what? you just me. >> there's so many others. there's so many other waiting for the full and final compensation as well. >> okay. all right. look, thank you very, very much. and, thank you very, very much. and, thank you very, very much. and, thank you very much for coming on and sharing your story. i think most
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people would, would wish that you get the resolution that you are after. i see mr there former sub—postmistress. well ed davey did offer a response to some criticism about his campaign stunts from another post office victim over the weekend on subpostmasters. >> my heart goes out to leigh and all the others who were so badly affected, and i'm looking forward to giving evidence to the inquiry, which i campaigned for, to hold people to account. but in terms of the things we've been doing, the stunts actually the real issue is engaging people and they have done . and people and they have done. and one of the reasons i'm so pleased to be on your programme is to talk about what liberal democrats are standing for. we're standing for health and care . we put that at the centre care. we put that at the centre of our manifesto. we we're talking about the cost of living and that's not coming up enough. people are really struggling out there and we're talking about there and we're talking about the environment . the environment. >> and a statement provided to gb news tonight. a lib dem spokesperson said there's post office officials lied to the victims. parliament the courts, 16 post office ministers adds heart goes out to all those victims, bitterly failed by the system and vows to fight with
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them forjustice. he's them for justice. he's campaigning them forjustice. he's campaigning to change the system so that this kind of awful miscarriage of justice is never repeated. okay, coming up, it's a record. yeah. that's right. it's a record breaking day in the channel. at least 750 small boat migrants landed on our shores. we warned you about this last night. we told you this was coming. and lo and behold, it's happened immediately. so are we witnessing the beginning of this devastating migrant surge ? i'll devastating migrant surge? i'll tackle that at 10 pm. plus, why did cat deeley apologise for this? you're right. did cat deeley apologise for this? you're right . okay did cat deeley apologise for this? you're right. okay i'll reveal all but next. a decade after malaysia airlines flight mh370 vanished into thin air is the mystery. find solved? aerospace engineer and founder of mh370 search.com richard godfrey tells all about a major new
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welcome back. look! coming up
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after a record breaking day for migrant crossings again in the channel. and the numbers now hitting 41,500 since rishi sunak told us all that he'd stopped the boats. well, we called it early , and we'll go into more early, and we'll go into more detail on it, but there is a surge on the way, and the next government, whoever they may be, is going to have to try and deal with that, aren't they? that's going to be at 10 pm. but first, the mystery surrounding the disappearance of flight mh370 has perplexed the planet. now, for ten years after the malaysian airlines plane disappeared without a trace with 239 people on board whilst travelling from malaysia to china . now conspiracy theories china. now conspiracy theories have surrounded the disappearance ever since. was it human error, deliberate sabotage by the pilots or passengers? even ufos have been mooted. has there been a cover up by the airline company involved or even by governments? but multiple searches on multiple sites have failed to provide the answers that people so desperately need. especially, of course, the victims families. but researchers at cardiff
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university have detected a signal that they think could reveal the final resting place after underwater microphones picked up six a second recorded sound around the time that the plane crashed landed. to delve a bit deeper into this, i'm delighted to welcome aerospace engineer, founder of mh 370 search.com it's richard godfrey. richard, thank you very much. can you just explain to us whether or not this breakthrough is now is now the answer? are we going to find this thing ? going to find this thing? >> i think the excellent research done in cardiff university by doctor usama qadri is another stepping stone. but it's not a final answer there. it is not a conclusive of, definition of where mh370 crashed. so they fully admit there's more tests that need to be done . they've made some very, be done. they've made some very, in my mind, clever
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recommendations that we go out and do further, testing on on their research and then hopefully we can i just ask what does this mean then. >> so they, they have now how is this only coming to light now? i don't quite understand. this was ten years ago and now all of a sudden, researchers at cardiff university have piped up and said, oh, we heard a beep. >> well, it's not new. we first, identified the acoustic analysis in 2014, right after the disappear science, the new research is much more thorough and gone in much more detail. well, it is picking up acoustic waves under the water. we have hydrophone lines in the water to pick up whether someone's let off a nuclear bomb in the ocean somewhere, so they can pick up
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any kind of sound , an aircraft any kind of sound, an aircraft crash, even ice breaking off the antarctic, even an exploration company doing seismic surveys. so it's not conclusive, but it's a good step forward. >> is this a cover up job of epic proportions? do you think something quite sinister happened to this plane? because it is all very odd . it is all very odd. >> i think you're right. it is all very odd , it is, we have all very odd, it is, we have a lot of data , but we don't have lot of data, but we don't have the final analysis. and we won't until we actually find the wreckage , the indian ocean is a wreckage, the indian ocean is a huge place . 77,000,000km2. and huge place. 77,000,000km2. and it's like, i was going to say finding a needle in a haystack, but actually, the haystack is very, huge. so >> yeah, i'm quite intrigued. so you you are the founder of mh 370 search.com. what's your theory , my theory is, we have
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theory, my theory is, we have a lot of evidence, and i think we know where the plane crashed. we need to go out there. and fortunately, ocean infinity , a fortunately, ocean infinity, a company has made a proposal to the malaysian government to search in, and they're going back out in november this year , back out in november this year, when we find the plane, we can recover the flight data recorder, the cockpit voice recorder, the cockpit voice recorder . we can learn a lot more. >> do you think someone might have shot it down? sorry. do you think someone might have shot it down? >> no. the plane flew until it ran out of fuel. it. the plane was perfectly in working order. there was an active pilot right until the end , so my only theory until the end, so my only theory at the moment is the captain of the plane , actually committed the plane, actually committed a huack
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the plane, actually committed a hijack of his own plane, but until we find it, we won't be able to prove that. >> okay, look, thank you very, very much, richard. always great to have someone with your expertise on the show and to explain to us a little bit about what may or may not have happened with this mystery. we are potentially a step closer now to knowing to and one of the one of the greatest mysteries of recent times. anyway finally being solved as aerospace engineer there, richard godfrey . engineer there, richard godfrey. thank you. now coming up is reforms pledged to enforce a two strike rule for benefits claimants who turned down jobs. fair. basically, if you turn down two jobs whilst you're on benefits, you will have your benefits. stopped. is that fair, do you think? will that get lazy people off their backsides and into work? we debate that very, very soon, but next it is a record day in the channel. at least 750 people have entered the uk illegally across the channel today alone, the illegal migrants surge is on. we told you about this yesterday . it's you about this yesterday. it's going to keep coming because
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human traffickers are fast tracking people through europe and to britain. why? because europe is about to get a lot tougher. we, it appears or not. stay tuned . stay tuned. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it's staying fairly dry and fine as we head into wednesday. sunny spells for many of us and other dry day on the cards. however, across the far northwest there are weather fronts approaching, but for many of us, we've got high pressure dominating across the uk and that's bringing all that dry and fine weather through this evening, though there's a risk of some heavy showers still continuing for some northern areas of england. but elsewhere a dry and clear night to come. for many of us, we will see the clearest skies across the far northwest of scotland, northern ireland two, where temperatures could dip down into the low single figures. but for most of us to start the day, we'll be at
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gb news. way. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight . christys tonight. >> it just illustrates why we have to stop the boats. something i'm determined to do. and have a clear plan to do. so it is another record day in the channel >> the first, i suspect, of many. the illegal migrant surge is on, and i will not rest until the boats are stopped.
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>> we will pass new laws to stop small boats, to keep my promise to you to stop the boats. >> well, now, more than 41,500 people have arrived since. he said that . and get up, have drink. >> have a ciggie and try and get more drink. >> the office politics because it's my side job centre i got. >> but i don't give . >> but i don't give. >> but i don't give. >> welcome to the full time job of living off the state. >> a big debate should people who turn down two jobs be denied all their benefits and you're right. okay why did itv apologise for that? plus . sunak apologise for that? plus. sunak supporters aren't sheep, are they ? i've got tomorrow's papers they? i've got tomorrow's papers with the spectators. james heale political commentator suzanne evans and former labour mp steve mccabe. and yes, look, when will our media finally admit that the
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hoougans our media finally admit that the hooligans aren't actually the engush hooligans aren't actually the english fans? get ready britain, here we go . here we go. the illegal migrant armada is on its way. next . its way. next. >> and the top story from the gb news room tonight. it has indeed been a record day for illegal migrants crossing the english channelin migrants crossing the english channel in small boats. gb news can reveal that at least 750 migrants arrived in uk waters today. surpassed the previous one day record of 711 on the 1st of may. that means more than 41,000 migrants have now made the crossing since rishi sunak promised to end the crisis in
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january last year. and it comes as an election debate over immigration took place tonight, with seven representatives from the main political parties taking part on channel 4. well, reform uk chairman richard tice addressed that the record number of small boat crossings to pick people up out of the boats and take them back to france , that take them back to france, that will stop the deaths. >> that's the compassionate thing to do. that will stop the illegal trade. under the 1982 un convention of law at sea. france has international obligations in order to pick people up and take back their failing in those obugafions. back their failing in those obligations . we're entitled to obligations. we're entitled to do that. that's the kind thing to do. it will stop people dying. >> richard tice well, late on this afternoon, nigel farage, the leader of reform uk, said he'd be ready to abolish the tv licence fee which funds the bbc. the reform leader was speaking dunng the reform leader was speaking during a town hall style event this afternoon in essex. it comes as the bbc said it would allow reform to take part in an extra question time leaders
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special , after mr farage's team special, after mr farage's team complained that they hadn't been included . now the prime minister included. now the prime minister was on the election trail today as well . he faced questions from as well. he faced questions from farmers on a visit to devon this afternoon . varne rishi sunak afternoon. varne rishi sunak argued that reform uk wouldn't be able to deliver on any promises because he said a vote for reform was a vote for laboun for reform was a vote for labour. he said it was a privilege to understand the contribution farmers make to society, before going on to warn that 40,000 jobs could potentially be lost as a result of labour's manifesto. but labour said it'll bring face to face banking back to britain's high streets today, with 350 new hubsin high streets today, with 350 new hubs in towns and villages that would see staff from several banks sharing the same space, helping fill gaps left by branch closures . as the consumer group, closures. as the consumer group, which says more than 6000 branches have closed since 2015. and the liberal democrats were
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campaigning as well. today they're promising to spend £10 million a year to tackle the practice of sewage dumping by water companies. new quality inspectors would work, all as part of a newly created clean water authority . just one last water authority. just one last thing to bring you up to date with this evening. the french actress anouk aimee has died at the age of 92. she became famous for her sophisticated performances in a string of classics throughout the 50s and 60s, including la dolce vita , 60s, including la dolce vita, eight and a half and a man and a woman, all which earned her an academy award for nomination for best actress. she made her last screen appearance in 2019 and credited her long career to always listening to her colleagues and not taking herself too seriously. pretty good advice for us all. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your
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screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts . alerts. >> it's been a record breaking day in the english channel. gb news can reveal that at least 750 illegal immigrants arrived in britain in small boats. today alone, that number surpasses the previous one day record of 711 small boat migrants who arrived on may the 1st. it takes the total number of migrants who have crossed this year to almost 12,200. yesterday, gb news revealed. we are about to get a huge surge in illegal channel crossings why? well, because people smugglers are fast tracking illegal immigrants across mainland europe and getting them to britain before right wing european politicians pass laws to detain and deport them within 24 hours of me telling you that it happened. what is the conservative party's plan to deal with this? well, rwanda and the illegal immigration act, which means
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that anybody who arrived in britain illegally can never claim asylum. problems with this include still being at the mercy of the echr are not actually sending anyone to rwanda . what sending anyone to rwanda. what is reform's plan? turn the boats back, leave the echr. well, problems with that include who will actually turn the boats back and what will that mean for our relationship with the french? what is labour's plan ? french? what is labour's plan? use terror laws to smash the gangs. use terror laws to smash the gangs . process asylum claims gangs. process asylum claims quicker. apparently some problems they are facing massive criticism for reportedly allowing the 90,000 illegal immigrants earmarked for rwanda to actually claim asylum in britain. they will also scrap the rwanda plan and shadow home secretary yvette cooper has been pictured with a refugees welcome sign in the weeks after the general election. britain is set to face channel migrant crossings like we have never seen before. we told you this was happening, it started happening immediately and it's not going to stop . are we
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not going to stop. are we doomed? let's get the thoughts of my panel political correspondent at the spectator james heale. i've got political commentator suzanne evans, former labour mp as well. steve mccabe. suzanne, i'll start with you on this. the gangs are now telling illegal immigrants that they have to get out of mainland europe because europe has voted to the right, and that they are going to be deported, and that their borders are going to close . is britain on the brink of becoming the world's illegal migrant dumping ground? >> i think it has been for quite some time, really. i mean, what are we headed for now? in total, since this small boats crisis began, it's around 150,000. or heading close to that , i think heading close to that, i think in total now, people were very critical of suella braverman when she called it an invasion. but if 150,000 people whose background we didn't know who chucked their papers overboard on the way over here, who arrived in a single day or even arrived in a single day or even a week, or even a month or even a week, or even a month or even a year, we would rightly have called it an invasion. yet, because it's been drips and
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drabs, even to the extent that it is today. huge record numbers. people have said, oh well, it's fine, i'm sure we can cope. well, it's fine, i'm sure we can cope . i'm well, it's fine, i'm sure we can cope. i'm sure well, it's fine, i'm sure we can cope . i'm sure they're all nice. cope. i'm sure they're all nice. really? no, these people are criminals. by the very fact that they have come here illegally without any attempt to do so legally. >> but before we get on to what labour may or may not do about this, we know what the tories are planning on doing. they've been planning on doing this for quite a while. i would like to ask you about reform. they say, right, we'll turn the boats back and we'll get out the echr. and and we'll get out the echr. and a lot of people like the sound of that. who's going to turn these boats back? do we know? because i'm not sure the navy are, are they? >> the navy have been very critical in the past and been saying, look, nothing to do with us, really. so i think that, you know, i'd love it if there was a kind of easy solution and we could just reach for it and just say it's about political will. i don't think it's that clear what they're going to be doing. and i think actually, i've richard tice rhetoric today was talking very much about what we could do this. we could do that. i don't think there's a kind of clear cut legal example. they're kind of pointing to right now, as far as i'm aware, look, steve, we are potentially anyway on the bnnk are potentially anyway on the brink of a labour government.
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we've got there a home secretary who has held up a refugees welcome sign as the rest of europe decides that they want to clamp down on illegal immigration. you know, labour conceivably could be offering asylum to 90,000 people who currently would not be allowed to do as well. you know, do they know what they're doing ? know what they're doing? >> well, it's pretty evident that the prime minister doesn't know what he's doing, isn't it, look, your guy wants to be the next prime minister, so he's got to have a plan, and he doesn't. well, actually, i think we do have a plan. i think the difference is there's no point in just having sound bite politics around something like that. that's bedevilled us for years. so i think the plan is relatively straightforward. i think people who are legitimate refugees should be accepted, and i don't know why anyone wants to denigrate that. i think we actually have to take action against people who are employing , refugees, lower wages and actually impacting on the economy. and that is an attraction factor in itself,
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although actually paying them 3000 to go to rwanda, can i just say is an incentive as well. >> i'll just be really clear on this. in the days and weeks after the general election, it is pretty obvious and our sources on the other side of the channel are telling us this. french security sources that we are going to get record day after record day after record day. okay, what's labour going to do? >> and i was about to say to you, i think if you're honest about that, we are not going to be able to solve it here in this country without some agreements with people across europe. that is painfully obvious to all of us. and unless we actually face up to that, unless we do something about getting access to the criminal databases that we used to have when we were part of europol, we're going to be in enormous difficulty. but surely the long term issue is to do a combination of clamping down on the people who don't need to be here and attacking the gangs so that you collapse the gangs so that you collapse the market. how else could it be tackled?
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>> i mean, the problem is, i think it's partly keir starmer has often reached for kind of sound bite politics smashed the criminal gangs. it's his forward sound bite. actually. you need a four year plan to deal with this. and i don't think it's as big a issue to labour as is, for instance, reform or the conservatives i don't think it's an issue as much as their mps. i think, frankly, a lot more relaxed about migration, illegal or legal. >> i think if you look at, well, the more engaged in dog whistle politics, i agree with that. well i think the dog whistle, i think there's a legitimate concern here, which i think you can talk about politics. >> i think the other thing, of course, is that my concern is that when labour says, oh, we're going have better relationships with the eu, i don't see what's going to fundamentally change. as you alluded to there, patrick, you're gonna have more right wing leaders across places like italy and france. you're going to see more migrants arriving in europe . the key arriving in europe. the key question is fundamental interests here. and i don't see any kind of way in which we can have a relationship with the eu, which doesn't face us taking more of their migrants. yeah. >> we've got a former labour mp who says, you know, it's dog whistle politics. i have concerns about about the channel. i mean, 750 odd probably mostly young men have just arrived today. >> no, i was referring to the way the reform and the tory party are dealing with. it is a
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dog whistle . it has patently dog whistle. it has patently failed . and now we've got nigel failed. and now we've got nigel saying he's going to turn round the boats and send them back. you tell me how you would do that. >> you know what i think, nigel, for, you know, i've had my run ins with nigel. but nigel is determined to do something. but how is he going to. >> how is he going to do it? >> how is he going to do it? >> the sunak doesn't have the will. >> you're criticising. >> you're criticising. >> you're criticising labour for the things i'm saying we would do. and when i ask you , how do. and when i ask you, how would he do that? you say, oh, well, it's a will. >> he said. he said, turn back the boats and leave the echr. that's what he said. so yeah, that's that's how well he said in the same breath yesterday. >> no, we won't be in government and within 100 days >> no, we won't be in government and within100 days i'll >> no, we won't be in government and within 100 days i'll leave the echr. how he's going to do that? i don't know. >> what you're failing to understand is that that nigel is determined to do something about this. and i think reform is the only party that's determined to do something about this. and if you've got determination of political will, then you can do something. the others are just fiddling around at the at the sidelines, really. they're making all the right noises,
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saying all the right things. and as we have seen with rwanda , and as we have seen with rwanda, and when i asked you. absolutely. >> what is nigel determined to do? >> he is determined to turn back the boats, i think, what how is he gonna do that? to do is to adopt the australia model. >> but that would mean so you need the royal navy . well, need the royal navy. well, that's what they did in australia. >> so he would need the royal navy , the royal navy. and you're navy, the royal navy. and you're interested to see that? >> i think there are plenty of people that would volunteer. well there are those boots boats. >> well i mean, this is why i was wondering. well vigilantes again there would be. >> well, they're hired and trained and employed by the royal navy . royal navy. >> who you meant. >> who you meant. >> yeah. well, i mean, the fact is there are i mean, there are plenty of people in this country who would volunteer whether or not they'd legally be allowed to do anything is a different question. but but, you know, there is that. all right, guys, thank you very much for the lively star, sir. coming up. it all kicks off in the stands at the euros. so our england football fans unfairly demonised as hooligans because none of them were england fans . okay.
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them were england fans. okay. and i bet they weren't banned from having full strength alcohol etc. at that game. but we debate that as i bring you the very first of tomorrow's front pages shortly. but next, we've been hearing a little bit about some of nigel farage policies already this evening, but reforms pledged to enforce a two strike rule that would, it appears , see benefits withdrawn appears, see benefits withdrawn if job seekers turned down two job offers. is that fair, or is that a bit too simplistic? author and commentator amy nicole turner goes head to head with entrepreneur and businessman mike green, and
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next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. still to come, i'll bnng tonight. still to come, i'll bring you the very first of tomorrow's newspaper . from tomorrow's newspaper. from pages. they are coming in thick and fast as we speak. but first, is it fair to stop people's benefits if they turn down work? it's time for the second of tonight's head to heads . well, tonight's head to heads. well, reform uk launched their election contract with the people, didn't they, yesterday? and a crackdown on britain's bloated benefit system is high on their priority list . on their priority list. >> and we want to make it clear that for people that are thought to be fit and able bodied , once to be fit and able bodied, once they've had two offers of a job, if they don't take one of those jobs, they lose their benefits . jobs, they lose their benefits. >> and i think, again, that is something that working people would agree with. >> reform are pledging to withdraw access to benefits from
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any jobseeker who turns down two offers of a job or somebody who fails to find work within four months. they say that it would save £15 billion a year, get 2 million people back into work now benefits culture in britain is a massive economic problem. we currently have 1.58 million people claiming benefits for being out of work, with more than half a million brits aged 16 to 24 unemployed. meanwhile, there are more than 900,000 job vacancies in the uk right now and across the entire benefit system . more than £8 billion was system. more than £8 billion was lost last year alone due to benefits , fraud and error. so benefits, fraud and error. so tonight i am asking is it fair tonight i am asking is it fair to stop benefits for people who turn down work going head to head on this now. our author and broadcaster amy nicole turner, entrepreneur and businessman as well, mike green, look, both of you, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. and, mike, i'll start with you. is it fair then if someone turns down
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two job offers to just get rid of the benefits? >> absolutely, completely. >> absolutely, completely. >> i mean, for decades now, every party and i mean every party every party and i mean every party had been saying, if you can work and won't work, you won't get any benefits. but none of them have had the courage to actually make that happen. and it's about time. these aren't people that are ill. these aren't people that are caring. these are all people that are supposedly fit and able for work, but they don't want to work. they're supposedly a jobseeker. now, i, in my 20s i was made redundant, had no work. i did a night shift filling shelves because i needed to do something to get me over. i didn't contemplate signing on, scamming the taxpayer, and it's just a real insult to taxpayers that these people can get away with it. >> all right, amy, look, something needs to be done about this, and people maybe just need a rocket up the backside. do they ? they? >> well, i don't know. >> well, i don't know. >> i've always thought that the welfare state is supposed to be there to support us when we're a
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safety net for our times of need. >> that , you know, any one of need. >> that, you know, any one of us might need at some point in our lives. >> and i didn't think it was there to be used as a means for punishment . punishment. >> but, mike mentioned night shifts there. so let's take an example of a person. so a woman in her 40s, she's recently got divorced. she's got a disabled son she's caring for, and she's got an elderly mother. now, if that woman, say, gets offered a job in mike's night shift factory and then won another job 20 miles away and commutable distance, she can't accept those jobs. so what's she going to do under this policy? i think this policy is just mean and unworkable, really. and it won't solve the problem . because to solve the problem. because to solve the problem. because to solve the problem. because to solve the problem, you've got to look at what's driving this economic inactivity and generally is ill health care giving students, retired people , giving students, retired people, disincentivised people, but not many lazy people. >> okay, i get that. look, you are you are absolutely right. the concern, the gaping concern
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in this for a lot of people will be if you are offered two jobs that you can't get to, right. and there are there will be people for whom this applies, especially in rural areas, that it's not a work from home job. you're going to, you know, and there will be those people who i think are at risk, potentially, of falling through the cracks in this, in this policy. but but i do think, though the flip side of it, mike, is we can't always just just drill down to the lowest common denominator in every single policy. and at the moment, the british taxpayer is paying moment, the british taxpayer is paying at least £8 billion a yearin paying at least £8 billion a year in benefits fraud, for goodness sake . that's before goodness sake. that's before we've just gone to people who genuinely cannot be bothered to get off the backside. >> i look, amy, what i agree with you on is the welfare society is to look after people who can't work, who are maybe , who can't work, who are maybe, needing that extra care. and i fully support that . if we took fully support that. if we took everybody who's out of work of aduu everybody who's out of work of adult age, we're talking about 11 million people. we're not talking about those people who are retired, those people who are retired, those people who are ill, those people who who can't work for whatever reasons
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that they're caring. we're talking about the 1.5 million who have no good excuse, not to work and not to contribute. and the fact is, the numbers, the numbers don't add up. if we've got 25% of our working age population not working , and then population not working, and then we've got, people below the age of 20 who have got to be supported, people over the age of 65, 70 have got to be supported. the reality is we've got more people that are dependents than are contribute in our society. it just doesn't add up. all right, amy, do you go on that that it doesn't add up . up. >> and because i think reform we're talking about well, they will keep creating the 9 million economically inactive people, which sounds very scary because it does include all the people that i mentioned earlier, the care givers, the retired , the care givers, the retired, the students, the ill. but when you take the 1.5 million that you've quoted, well, currently there's only about 1 quoted, well, currently there's only about1 million job only about 1 million job vacancies. and i think your chance of getting a job is 1 in 41. and when i had a look on the on the list of jobs available, at the moment, there were only
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five remote ones. so what's the chances of those jobs being conveniently located and conveniently located and convenient and matching your skills is on our sense of entitlement. >> i get it, i get what you're saying, amy. but you know , saying, amy. but you know, people, is this not the problem? the people, especially young people, they're waiting for the perfect job to fall into their lap, aren't they? they don't want to actually do the hard graft that has to be done, possibly for low wages. just to get on in life. and people might need to accept that. okay, you could get one pay off from the state to sit on your backside and smoke roll ups and drink strong cider every single day. or you could get up. you could go to work, maybe start on a lower salary, have a bit of purpose in life, and dare i say, impress your manager and be running the gaff within 20 years time. >> i think that's a massive inqu >> i think that's a massive insult to people who are out of work, really. and if you look at what i've said, which is driving these unemployment figures and this economic inactivity, because to have 9 million people out of the economy is damaging . out of the economy is damaging. so we need to get those people back into work. but what's what's driving that? it's people who are sick. it's people that are caring. and what will create
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jobs, affordable child care, £8 billion benefit fraud last year, amy, that creates jobs and incentivises work. so i mean , incentivises work. so i mean, they would want to work in that industry but aren't benefiting our benefits. >> fraud is so bad that an entire town in bulgaria managed to turn itself into something resembling las vegas the other yeah resembling las vegas the other year. as a result of it, £8 billion worth of benefits, fraud. i mean , does something fraud. i mean, does something does need to be done about that, mike. but you know, what would you say to people who legitimately say there aren't going to be people who would risk having all their benefits stopped? so, you know, is nigel farage really going to look people in the eye? a single mum and say, all right, you turned down two jobs, you're you're out. you're out on the street . out. you're out on the street. >> patrick. my mum was a single mum with five kids. do you know what? she'd put us to bed. she would then do piecework, sewing clothing through the night. she didn't. she wasn't work shy. she wasn't lazy. she got off her bat and did some work. we're not talking about those that can't
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work. we're talking about those that are deemed to be of workable age, deemed to be healthy enough to do it. who are supposedly job seekers, and they've gone for two jobs or been offered two jobs, and they don't take one. if those lazy, work shy ones were to get to work shy ones were to get to work and start contributing and start paying taxes, we could probably do more for people that do have to care. they can't look after themselves and need some extra welfare support. i i would kind of agree with you, but i think you're using quite a blunt instrument. >> we want the same conclusion. whereas i would say you need guidance, support , training guidance, support, training rather than just saying sorry, your benefits are cut off, which we've seen through the noughties with the pip payment scandals. we've seen what happens when the when the department of work and pensions tries schemes like this benefits sanctions don't work. they push people into poverty. and guess what's really expensive to deal with? poverty. >> okay, look, both of you, thank you very much. good stuff that that was author and broadcaster amy nicole turner, entrepreneur and businessman mike greenspan. mindset shift though, isn't it? i think, but
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coming up, what brought on this grovelling apology from itv's cat deeley really wasn't supposed to cause any upset to anybody . oh, anyway. and sunak's anybody. oh, anyway. and sunak's followers aren't cheap . three followers aren't cheap. three times i've used that joke tonight never old. i'll bnng old. i'll bring you all of that as i deliver the very first
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next. welcome back. it's time for your very first look at tomorrow's front pages. let's do it . we go front pages. let's do it. we go with the metro . they go post with the metro. they go post office in criminal conspiracy. i felt there was a cover up. accountant tells inquiry. all right. okay let's go to the eye. uk in secret talks over financial turmoil at it. giant that could hit benefits and nhs. all right. the british government has held private talks over the fate of a major
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it contractor. and they fear that public services could face severe disruption as a result, apparently. so there we go, let's go to the daily mail. labour's secret tax rise dossier revealed. they say the official manifesto submission from a group of mps, which includes keir starmer proposing six raids from targeting family homes to inheritance and wealth taxes. so we'll probably be delving into that a little bit later. i imagine the daily telegraph britain, 20 years behind europe on cancer care . they've also got on cancer care. they've also got tax raid fear, as starmer suggests, savers are not working people. it is interesting this who is a working person but, wipe clean all covid fines as well, says ex—minister. i'm going to round off this particular one with the guardian. nhs will buy beds in care homes to cut hospital waits, says labour. okay, just if you listen closely there, you can just hear the sound of more money being spent, can't you? but all let's see rishi sunak about that as, it looks as
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though it's sinking. although we're reliably informed that it's not right. let's whiz ourselves over quickly with my wonderful panel here. i'm going to just zone in a little bit on this one. it's on the front of the mail, on the telegraph. labour's secret tax rise plans reveal. they say these include hiking, inheritance and capital gains taxes, imposing a jackpot levy on extreme wealth, introducing council tax reforms that could see families bills double, i mean, is there any truth to this, james? i'll come to you. i mean, is this just i don't know, is this just the tory party scaremongering or is this true? >> well, it's a bit of both. and i think this was a document put forward to the national policy forum by the tribune group of mps and in the submission, the group did put a disclaimer which said that the ideas do not represent specific policy position of the group but are, quote, consistent with party's values. and i think this is the broader issue here, which is, you know, within the labour party is going to constantly be a group always pushing for higher taxes because they're in labour's dna. >> steve, you're an outgoing labour mp . are these in line labour mp. are these in line with your values? >> no, i don't think so. not particularly well pointing.
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ummps every now and again come up with a few fancy ideas and it's been quite a few, but written by the conservative party >> apologise about this. apparently your microphone's just fallen off, so i'll get you to fiddle around with that for a second whilst i ask suzanne whether or not these six taxes they're saying now that labour wants a rise extend national insurance, remove the cap on national insurance as well . national insurance as well. equalise capital gains tax with income tax rates , plug gaps in income tax rates, plug gaps in inheritance tax reform, property tax to make it quote fairer, introduce a jackpot tax for extreme wealth. i mean yeah. what do you make of this? >> it makes total sense. having read the labour party manifesto, i thought it was appalling. if you're somebody that wants to make money, get a good job, have a good income, get a house, pass it on to your kids. labour is not the party for you . there's not the party for you. there's not the party for you. there's no doubt about it. it's terrifying. >> steve's back in the room. >> steve's back in the room. >> it's makes sense to me. >> it's makes sense to me. >> god. well, i love suzanne, but i don't believe a word of it. >> look, i've read it.— >> look, i've read it, it. >> look, i've read it, steve. >> i was just saying that if you look back, there's been quite a
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few books by, current serving cabinet ministers. now where they've had some crackpot ideas. and i think apart from liz truss and kwasi kwarteng, they were mostly ignored , this is just mostly ignored, this is just a lot of hot air from people because i think we're quite worried about that book written by karl marx, aren't we? >> and whether or not whether or not we might be, we might be about to get. >> i don't know him myself, but i'll take your word. for thing is, patrick is that if it's hot air, keir starmer can dismiss them on air tomorrow. >> answer six questions on each of these and have to rule them out for the next five years. and we shall see if he gives straight answers. >> look, let's let's be honest now. that's what you hit the nail on the head. it's almost like you do this for a living, because that is what's happening. people are now going to be saying, right, if you're not going to tell us exactly what you're taxing us, can you rule them out one by one? and that's that is what is going to be in the news tomorrow. >> it's the it's the party of envy. in my view. >> but that's what's been said for the last four weeks. >> these people that, you know, just actually want to get on in life, it's anti aspiration. it's anti wealth. >> it's classic labour. this
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classic i, i think this is classic i, i think this is classic nonsense. >> everything but a working person. so things like inheritance tax loopholes i think those are going to be really interesting things that labour's going to be looking at is who is this working person as well? >> i mean, well we'll have to wait and see. but i suspect i suspect it's not going to be as many of you as you think it might be. but anyway, itv's cat deeley sparked a bit of outrage among some today after viewers took offence , allegedly at this took offence, allegedly at this joke she made about her own dancing . you're right. okay. dancing. you're right. okay. >> yeah, i'm fine . >> yeah, i'm fine. >> yeah, i'm fine. >> just having a seizure , right? >> just having a seizure, right? >> just having a seizure, right? >> well then some people decided to say that that was really offensive and they made her apologise . apologise. >> first of all, i just want to apologise to anyone who was offended yesterday when i made a light hearted comment about my dancing style. >> it really wasn't supposed to cause any upset to anybody, but i can see why that might have been the case. so i do apologise . i'm very sorry. >> yeah, i mickey mouse if i had
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to do that the entire first hour of this show, every single day will be taken up with tosh like that. anyway, moving on in a world where the wokerati appear to rule the roost, can nobody spot a joke anymore? i'm going to whizz through this because there's another topic that i'm really keen to get us on, actually. now england fans were wrongly demonised and denied booze for their euro 2024 opener with serbia as a security precaution. they appear to still think that we are living in the 70s and 80s of football hooliganism and all of this stuff, which , frankly, we do not stuff, which, frankly, we do not see anywhere near the same scale as everyone else on the continent sees. the game passed without incident , and it continent sees. the game passed without incident, and it seems that uefa were focusing on the wrong fixture because today, although you won't have seen this on the telly because the cameras cut away from it. turkey versus georgia in a scene no one could have seen coming. well, they fought each other, didn't they? nicola bulley. yep. i
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mean, but do you not do you think maybe english fans are demonised or not? are you not? what do you reckon? >> my goodness, i'm not really up on football, but i suppose. yes i think they have been. i mean, football is one of those things, isn't it? gets people wound up, they get drunk while they're doing it and it's like you mix passion and drink and things are going to kick a couple of things that really wow me up about the coverage of the england game. >> right. so, so sky news sent a cameraman in the in the dead of night after england, serbia. by which point, you know, some people have been getting on it and all that as, as as you, as you do, and they found some fans. they're going like, you know, oh, he's shouting at the camera. and the report was like, any moment now , oh, that could any moment now, oh, that could kick off. and it's like, well, all right, fine , it's a football all right, fine, it's a football match. why are our own press so desperate to hey england fans? >> well, i mean, you can get it worse than any sort of city centre on a night out in london. you know, i'd say, you know, look, these things happen, but i think that, you know, we have to do is talk to the english players who go abroad, you know, and talk about the kind of the abuse they experience overseas
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in europe. in some places, british fans are, i think, a lot better, much more advanced in all of this. and i think that, you know, a lot of it is due to long memories of the 70s and 80s. mercifully, you see very little of those scenes anymore in stadia across the country right now. >> the scots travel well, they do, and that's probably because they don't concentrate so much on the football. >> they . look, i think on the football. >> they. look, i think i on the football. >> they . look, i think i feel >> they. look, i think i feel sorry for the average decent engush sorry for the average decent english fan who is having to put up with this. there was, of course, trouble at the european championship final at wembley with all of the people trying to get in and break into the ground , so there are still some problems and there was a lot of concern about the serbian fans at that game. so i'm not sure it was entirely about targeting. >> i mean, there was quite it was quite interesting for all of this. hoo—ha you know, about the serbian fans ended up trying to fight a group of albanian fans and, and some english fans got caught up in the middle of it, you know, and this is, this is it. it just winds me up a bit, though, because all this kind of international, i mean, i've got
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a couple of mates who were who were at that game right. and they said the conditions are absolutely shocking for them. and three hours waiting for a train on the way back and all all the pubs and they're deliberately trying to make it so and you think, well, actually they're caused frustration. meanwhile, the turks are fighting the georgians in the stand over there and no one seems to care. >> it's quite funny, the english fans discovering the only train in in the whole of the continent that are worse than ours are the germans. >> yeah. yeah, exactly. it's always. it's always like. it's unbelievable, isn't it? really. right now, time for the great british giveaway. there you go. oh why not, your chance to make this summer really special. oh why not, your chance to make this summer really special . with this summer really special. with £16,000 worth of prizes to be won, £15,000 in cash, a whole host of treats you've got to be in. it's a winner. here's all the details you need . the details you need. >> there's still time to win our summer spectacular with an incredible trio of treats, and you could win them first. there's a fabulous £15,000 in tax free cash to ensure this summer is special. what would you spend that on next? you'll also receive the latest iphone 15 and a set of apple airpods. and finally, £500 to spend at
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welcome back to patrick christys
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tonight. and i have got a few more front pages for you. let's do it. i've got the times they say johnson shuns campaign trail as tories face red wall decimation. boris johnson is no longer expected to join the election campaign . it's election campaign. it's interesting because this time yesterday we were talking about how he definitely would be so starmer tax threat to savers with a cheque book. right okay let's go to the express. there's a theme . it must be said on a theme. it must be said on tomorrow's front page is a theme we have already discussed. but laboun we have already discussed. but labour, they say, will tax your years of savings. labour will plunder savers bank accounts. i'm not entirely sure how they can do that , to be honest. can do that, to be honest. >> really, i well, they've done it in other countries in extremist. they did it in cyprus didn't they? during the financial crisis there, people suddenly had money taken out of their i mean , there would be their i mean, there would be literally be riots on the streets. >> i mean, i don't i look, i'm all for talking about labour tax hikes. i well, i mean, i'd be amazed if on day one all of a sudden sir keir starmer said, i
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thought that was in greece, where they actually prevented people taking money out of the right. exactly. all right. there's a there's also one in the mirror here from page at tories adrift from reality. you're going to need a bigger vote. pm olusi is deluded. jeremy hunt says the government's done a great job, right? brilliant, fantastic , right? brilliant, fantastic, right. well, i'm joined again by my press pack. you know, they are by now, but it's james heale susan evans and former labour mp steve mccabe now rishi sunak, has criticised keir starmer's plan to lower the voting age to 16, saying it will be electorally helpful to get into number 10. well, the prime minister says that the labour leader wants to lower the voting age to entrench his power. sunak added that starmer has previously discussed extending the to vote migrants as well. well, a poll by maureen commons says that the public think labour are acting in the self—interest of their party to gain votes. 47% do not agree with lowering the voting age, while 27% think it's a good idea . and look, steve, i will start with you on this. i mean, is this a shameless attempt to rig
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future elections? essentially letting kids and potentially migrants vote? >> well , i migrants vote? >> well, i haven't heard about the migrants getting the vote. that must be a new one. that's just been conjured up in the last half hour. but, look, i'm in favour of a common age of consent. i think, actually, there's a really good persuasive argument for doing that. and if what labour is proposing involves looking at that, we should be serious in terms of it being shameless. well, if you introduce voter id , but make it introduce voter id, but make it hard for young people to have effective id, what game are you playing? >> well, i'm playing the same game that it is to go and buy a packet of fags at tesco's exactly . exactly. >> we don't let. >> we don't let. >> well, that's what i'm saying. why we need a common age of consent, why it's so difficult for people to present an id when they vote. >> i've just never understood that. >> it's not difficult. >> it's not difficult. >> well, you don't allow. the point i'm making is the government will allow . say, for government will allow. say, for example, an old age pensioner bus pass , but they won't allow bus pass, but they won't allow a student bus pass. that's not true. >> student . >> student. >> student. >> it's true that it's an absolute fight. and of course ,
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absolute fight. and of course, the veterans id card isn't an id card when it comes to voting. >> you obviously came from the real issue, which is votes for people at 16. and i think that's so, so wrong. it is labour gerrymandering, to be honest. same as in their manifesto talking about citizens assemblies and sort of surpassing, of course that sounds really radical. oh my goodnessin sounds really radical. oh my goodness in the labour. well, it is because it's basically taking citizens, putting it's putting , citizens, putting it's putting, policy in the hands of a select group of people instead of putting it to a vote. >> go on. you know. oh, sorry. sorry >> i was just saying, you know, you can't allow people to have votes at 16 if you won't let them to get married. remember, that's just been removed. now, you won't let them go into a pub. you make them , you know, pub. you make them, you know, wait till we need the common age of consent. >> i agree. >> i agree. >> well, 16 is too young. it should be up to 18. >> i think rights, responsibilities come together . responsibilities come together. so i agree about that. i think the danger is you're giving them the danger is you're giving them the right 16, but also making it illegal to drink monster munch up at that age. yeah, yeah. >> i do think though james, that maybe there's a case to say be careful what you wish for with votes for 16 from the left's perspective, because you someone
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like, i'm not putting the two of them in the same bracket if people shout at me. but someone like an andrew tate figure is very popular, very popular with loads of people, literally millions of people all over the world, but also a lot of young people and someone like a nigel farage is, as we are seeing now with the tiktok campaign, also very popular. so if labour or the greens or the lib dems are looking, thinking, oh well, i'm going to minute, it's a work in our favour forever, they might get a surprise. >> yeah, i agree, and i think the greens are making going to be the real challenge at the end of the next parliament. five years time, when you've got a left wing government which has been popular on the left, you're going to see the greens trying to outflank them. i've spent the last week in bristol central, where the greens look very likely to get their second seat in parliament. so i think be careful what you wish for. i remember every single time in the last century when they've extended the franchise. the party that extended it didn't end up being the beneficiary of that. come the next election. so, for instance, when it was harold wilson's government that made it from 21 to 18, it was the tories that benefited from that in 1970. that's also true. >> people said the roof would fall and if women got the vote
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and 18 year olds got it. >> so, i mean, is there some truth in that, suzanne? you know, are we just behind the times here? you know, is there is there that case that. well, you know, women didn't used to have the vote, did they? >> no, i think it's totally different issue. you know, women of any age and any class were completely forbidden from getting the vote for far too long, that's not comparable with giving children to vote. and effectively, in this country, you're still a child at 16. >> okay. all right. i'm just going to get to this early because i think there's a discussion to be had here. so the prime minister had a to nonh the prime minister had a to north devon today to herd up some voters as he squatted in the dirt, shaking a bucket of feed at sheep . but unfortunately feed at sheep. but unfortunately for rishi sunak , this awkward for rishi sunak, this awkward moment of him trying to round up the flock for feeding time left him looking a little bit sheepish. if you're listening on radio, it is quite self—explanatory . it's is quite self—explanatory. it's rishi sunak getting ignored by a
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load of sheep. so there you go . load of sheep. so there you go. so, i mean, look, james, what? what's he playing at? >> well, he wants to be photographed with lots of cuddly sheep. and there's a long tradition of this going back to margaret thatcher in 79, who kicked this off? and her husband told her off because she was holding the calf so tight that she sorry the lamb. he was so tight that she worried she'd have a dead calf on their hands, because she held it for 13 minutes. but since then we've seen cameron on the campaign trail. he's just been around going for the farming vote. basically, they're down to the core vote, and they need to get all the farmers out and try and save those seats with 15,000, 20,000 majority. >> of course, successive governments, not not just conservative, but labour before them, have completely destroyed farming this country. the farming in this country. the conservatives have built more conservatives have built on more greenbelt than any other greenbelt land than any other government in history , they're government in history, they're giving planning permission to solar farms left, right and centre , which, again, are centre, which, again, are threatening our food security. rishi sunak was in terrible trouble today because he put out a quote saying, you know, you've got to buy british food. we've got to buy british food. we've got to buy british food. we've got to be self—sufficient in food, but we can't possibly be because we're importing so much now. because we have to, because we've destroyed this tweet here. >> you know, this is this is
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this morning. we shouldn't be relying on foreign food buying british. oh, well, tory's been in power for 14 years. yes. yeah. all right. fine. that's great. lovely. tweet it now. it's ten hours ago you tweeted that you've had 14 years to sort this out. it's too late. >> well, i think that's the answer to everything. they've had 14 years to create this mess and 14 years to sort all the things they're talking about how. >> now. >> and they haven't done it exactly. >> well, anyway. right. it's time to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass. james, i'm going to start with your greatest britain for me, please. >> well, i think, you know, this campaign has had very few heroes , but one of them for me is chris hope of gb news. this very parish. i think he's had a very good war in a battlefield littered with casualties , and i littered with casualties, and i think he's done a brilliant job reporting across the country. and i hope that man gets a well—deserved holiday after this. he's been brilliant. >> well, yes, indeed . well done >> well, yes, indeed. well done choppen >> well, yes, indeed. well done chopper. fantastic. well, compete with that, suzanne , compete with that, suzanne, well, my greatest britain is royal ascot, and i think i've got my lovely guys to model some beautiful hats for me, because i'm off to ascot on thursday and friday. come on, patrick, put
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yours on. >> so this is a massive king james here, so you can help me choose which ones i want to wear. >> so. so hats are. this is a you want this one because of the colour i presume your red is very fantastic. scott. >> so yeah i mean ascot, it's amazing. >> it's great. it's british. >> it's great. it's british. >> she's got a win. >> she's got a win. >> this is how it ends. okay all right. i must say i saw a cameron walker, our royal reporter ascot earlier and his, in his tops and tails. can we stop zooming in? i mean, it's a massive hat. let's take it off. worried about how much this suits me. yeah i'll keep it on. i'll keep it on. you go on, then , steve. come on. who's your greatest? britain? >> well, i think mine would be, sir. alan bates . he got his. sir. alan bates. he got his. absolutely, i think i'd be. i mean, we'd be sir alan bates, who got his knighthood in the honours list there, i think richly deserved . and a guy who's richly deserved. and a guy who's done his whole. >> i'll let you take it off now. well done. all right. no. okay.
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loads of strong choices there. i am going to go for christopher hope, our political editor, for a stellar job so far. but he's a stellarjob so far. but he's still got a few weeks to keep it together, hasn't he. so right. who's your oh he's caved as well, who's, who's your union jack? >> i'm taking my hat off right now because i'm criticising the fashion choices of someone else, which is, gary lineker because he's in hot water again for potentially allegedly breaching bbc guidelines on wearing a product placement because he was wearing his his rather garish , wearing his his rather garish, gap. i think gary lineker menswear line but yes. next. sorry. next. sorry. oh. >> probably made in a sweatshop somewhere in bangladesh. they would deny that, i think. >> and, yeah, in hot water once again for potentially breaching guidelines. >> okay. lovely stuff, susanna , >> okay. lovely stuff, susanna, who's your union jack asquith? >> it's a bit obscure. it's bbc audio north, which is a thing. and they put out an advert for someone to be an assistant producer, classical music. but they had to identify it as disabled, neurodivergent or dead
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. but clearly this was a typo. it should have been deaf, but you identify as deaf or disabled to get a job these days. you don't actually have to be deaf or disabled. you just have. the whole thing is ludicrous. yeah, exactly. >> i part of me, i'll be honest with you. wishes i was identifying as dead right now, but, steve, who's your union jack ass, please? >> well, i'm a scotland football fan, so i'd have to say the scottish defence against germany in the opening game. >> what do you make of that, by the way? >> because i mean, they were served up a terrible opening draw. but i mean it was bad. >> i thought it was pretty grim. but they've got a chance to redeem themselves tomorrow night. and like all those poor fans, i live in hope. >> i felt very sorry for them because you guys sent , well, a because you guys sent, well, a tartan army. you sent him about two. it's about 200,000 of you or something over there. seriously, it's mad . and to get seriously, it's mad. and to get spanked like that anyway, right. well, today's union jack house winner is gary lineker. in a shock to nobody . repeat. winner, shock to nobody. repeat. winner, there we go. who would model some dodgy fashion on national
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television? right. thank you. thank you very much. sorry. it's nothing dodgy about this wonderful . right. nothing dodgy about this wonderful. right. headliners are up next. i'll see you tomorrow . up next. i'll see you tomorrow. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar . sponsors of weather on . solar. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it's staying fairly dry and fine as we head into wednesday. sunny spells for many of us. another dry day on the cards. however, across the far northwest there are weather fronts approaching, but for many of us, we've got high pressure dominated sitting across the uk, and that's bringing all that dry and fine weather through this evening, though there's a risk of some heavy showers still continuing for some northern areas of england. but elsewhere a dry and clear night to come for many of us, we will see the clearest skies across the far northwest of scotland northern ireland too, where temperatures could dip down into the low single figures. but for most of us to start the day, we'll be at
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around 10 or 11 degrees, a little bit fresher tomorrow morning than this morning, but still plenty of sunshine around . still plenty of sunshine around. let's take a closer look at how things look first thing tomorrow. and actually where it's been quite cloudy across the far north of scotland lately. it's going to be a much brighter start tomorrow, despite the chillier feel, and that sunshine will be spread quite widely across the uk into northern ireland, northern areas of england, north wales. there'll be some cloud around here and there, but generally wednesday is going to be a fairly fine day and actually onshore breeze across the far southeast could bring a slightly fresher feel here. but for most of us, plenty of sunshine to come through tomorrow. sunny spells into the afternoon cloud will bubble up a little bit. that may allow the odd shower to break out here and there. perhaps across the south—west, but i think you'll be pretty unlucky to get caught out in a shower. however, a different story for the far northwest of scotland , into the western isles scotland, into the western isles and the highlands, where a weather front is approaching now in the sunshine. highs of around 23 degrees to come in the southeast, but widely into the high teens. for many of us, thursday is looking like another
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gb news. >> in a moment. headliners. but first, let's bring you up to date with the latest news headlines. and today has been a record day for migrants crossing the english channel in small boats . gb news can reveal that boats. gb news can reveal that at least 750 illegal migrants arrived in uk waters today,
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surpassing the previous one day record of 711 on may the 1st. that means more than 41,000 migrants have now made the crossing since rishi sunak promised to end the crisis in january last year. that comes as an election debate program tonight took place with seven representatives from the main political parties on channel 4. reform uk's chairman richard tice addressed the record number of small boat crossings to pick people up out of the boats and take them back to france . take them back to france. >> that will stop the deaths. that's the compassionate thing to do that will stop the illegal trade. under the 1982 un convention of law at sea, france has international obligations in order to pick people up and take back their failing in those obugafions. back their failing in those obligations . we're entitled to obligations. we're entitled to do that. that's the kind thing to do. it will stop people dying. >> richard tice will nigel farage says he'd abolished the tv licence fee, which funds the bbc. the reform uk leader was speaking during a town hall style event this afternoon. it
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