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gb news. >> it's 9 pm. i'm patrick christie's tonight. >> unfortunately, i don't like keir starmer , so he's one that keir starmer, so he's one that i'm really against. >> rafe footage appears to show a labour campaigner saying some astonishing things and disgraceful scenes at stonehenge. but now eco warriors are taking the government to court in a case that could change britain forever. also you're refusing to tax.7 >> well, you're refusing to invest in our communities. rachel, please, you barely speak to young people. >> millionaires are fleeing britain . are labour coming for britain. are labour coming for your money and the latest poll shows rishi sunak is about to lose his own seat. >> plus is starmer and the opportunity destroying, aspiration hating labour party. >> now boris johnson has now turned his back on the prime
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minister. also tonight . yes, the minister. also tonight. yes, the child murderer and rapist who killed baby p could be up for release. should monsters like him ever be back on the streets and yeah yeah yeah yeah. the illegal migrant armada are waved off towards britain by french police. on my panel tonight is acting editor at conservativehome. henry hill. landlord and activist adam brooks, and author rebecca reid. oh, and from right back to left winger . winger. >> oh, yeah. yeah. good. how are you? >> oh, yeah. yeah. good. how are you.7 are >> oh, yeah. yeah. good. how are you? are we good? thanks for doing this. no, no. really good. >> get ready. britain here we go is labour about to take you to dinner and then stick you with
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the bill . next? the bill. next? >> us gb news the top story tonight. a new poll is forecasting the worst election defeat for the conservative party in its nearly 200 year history. yougov's latest study projects 425 seats for labour, which is 125 more than they won in 2019. that would leave the tories with just 108 and the liberal democrats with 67 and 20 seats going to the scottish national party and five seats for reform . well, in other news, for reform. well, in other news, today, for the first time in nearly three years, inflation has fallen to the bank of england's 2% target. and it's boosted hopes of an interest rate cut in the coming months. most analysts were forecasting the drop, which is down from 2.3% in april. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says it's great news but claims that inflation
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could rise again if labour wins the election. >> a year and a half ago we had higher inflation than nearly any other major economy. today it is lower and that shows the difficult decisions we've taken. have paid off. that would not have happened under labour. they refused to condemn the public sector pay strikes. that would have meant higher inflation for longer. instead, we have lower inflation, taxes starting to come down and hopefully now mortgages starting to come down. it will be a terrible shame if we turn the clock back and put up taxes for every family with savings , which is what it now savings, which is what it now emerges. keir starmer plans to do jeremy hunt but labour's shadow chancellor rachel reeves , shadow chancellor rachel reeves, is insisting the cost of living crisis isn't over. >> and she says prices are still going up. price rises have been very severe in the last few years. >> the cost of the weekly food shop up almost 30% since the last general election . people last general election. people looking to remortgage this year
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paying looking to remortgage this year paying more than £200 a month more on their mortgage because of the conservatives mini—budget. less than two years ago that crashed the economy and sent mortgage rates soaring. so the conservatives might want to say everything is okay. but i know for many people right across our country , they're across our country, they're still struggling. >> rachel reeves , now police >> rachel reeves, now police constable working as part of the prime minister's protection team in downing street, has been arrested over alleged bets made relating to the timing of the general election . the general election. the metropolitan police said the officer was taken into custody on suspicion of misconduct in a pubuc on suspicion of misconduct in a public office, and has since been bailed pending further enquiries. a spokesperson for the gambling commission has said tonight they're investigating the possibility of offences concerning the date of the election . but lastly, in place election. but lastly, in place of his majesty the king today, prince william joined the queen on day two of royal ascot. her majesty led the royal procession with the duke and duchess of edinburgh there as well. they're
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celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary today. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts , scan sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . to gb news. com slash alerts. >> welcome along. so a bombshell poll has shown that rishi sunak could become the first prime minister in history to lose his seat at the election on july the fourth. but have the tax gods just provided him with a miracle? this morning it emerged that there are apparently six labour stealth taxes that might be on the table. they are number one. extend national insurance to all sources of income except on pension payments, though working pensioners will still be made to pay. number two remove the cap on national insurance so higher earners those earning more than £50,270, pay the main rate of 8% all the way up the income scale, raising, they say,
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£20 billion. number three equalise capital gains tax with income tax rates raising an estimated £16 billion. number four plug gaps in inheritance tax by ending reliefs that allow farmland, business, property and pension pots to be passed on tax free. this would raise £4 billion, they say. number five reform of property tax to make it fairer . while those in low it fairer. while those in low cost homes would see bills cut , cost homes would see bills cut, those living in more expensive areas could see charges more than double. and number six introduce what's called a jackpot tax on extreme wealth, raising £10 billion a year. but here's the kicker, though isn't it? because a lot of that might sound okay to people. oh, it's not going to apply to me. it doesn't really matter who is going to actually end up paying this stuff though, because today it's emerged that 9500 millionaires left the uk last year. millionaires left the uk last year . more millionaires left the uk last year. more millionaires left britain than any other country apart from china, so they won't be paying it, will they? what does that mean for the middle
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classes ? what does that mean for classes? what does that mean for anyone with savings? is this the fatal flaw with labour's economic plans ? the people they economic plans? the people they need to pay for everything might just leave. keir starmer's definition of working people certainly raised some eyebrows as well. >> person i have in my mind, nick, when i say working people is people who earn their living, rely on our services and don't really have the ability to write a check when they get into trouble . trouble. >> it's quite a lot of people. i think the tories say that that means more tax rises. so starmer was forced to deny that again today. >> we have been really clear that we're not raising income tax. national insurance or vat. all of our plans are fully funded and don't require tax rises over and above what we've already set out, and that is because we're focusing on growing our economy. our focus is on growth. that's been the missing ingredient for the last 14 years. it's been slightly the
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missing ingredient in this campaign as well, because we're not talking enough about how we grow the economy and create wealth . wealth. >> but is he not talking enough about the fact that a lot of the people who will need to fund all of this might, again, just leave ? and with inflation hitting rishi sunak's pledged target of 2% today, the prime minister went on the offensive, promising more tax cuts . more tax cuts. >> inflation is back to target and that means people will start to feel the benefits and ease some of the burdens on the cost of living, and it's because of that economic stability that we've restored, which was my priority when i got this job, that we've now been able to start cutting people's taxes. and if i win this election, i want to keep doing more of that cutting people's taxes at every stage of their life. >> there is of course, the credibility gap, though, isn't there? so some clear dividing lines seem to be emerging now between labour and the conservative gives. but is it too little, too late, or could tax turn the tide on a labour landslide? let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. acting editor of
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conservativehome henry hill. we've also got businessman and activist adam brooks and author and journalist rebecca reid . and journalist rebecca reid. adam, i'll come for you. is there a real fear that labour are coming for your money? >> yeah, i think i speak to a lot of people in the pub and friends that are terrified of what labour are going to bring, bnngin what labour are going to bring, bring in going forward. i think that comes up a lot. is council tax . you know, if you put tax. you know, if you put council tax up, it's going to send so many households budgets over that line . people already over that line. people already struggling, especially middle england as well, you know they've been hit with tax increases under the tories . increases under the tories. they've been squeezed from inflation. and it's just another thing that tipped them over the edge. there's a lot of worry about labour going forward from the people i'm speaking to. >> henry, is there a concern that labour are saying everything is fully costed and that's all okay. but then if another 9500 millionaires leave next year , or dare i say, even next year, or dare i say, even more than that, then how on earth are they going to end up
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raising the funds? it's going to be the rest of us paying for everything, isn't it? >> well, labour have said that everything is fully costed, and that's true for the stuff where they've given us the detail. but there's an awful lot of like euphemistic stuff in their manifesto, which sounds nice. but when you really drill into the details is going to cost a lot of money. and the problem is when you tax the very wealthy is that there aren't that many of them in this country, and they're very mobile, right? the wealthiest people, they can leave capital can leave. so that means that really, if you want to raise a lot of money, you're going to be raising money off people who can't leave. and that's as you say, the middle classes. the other challenge for laboun classes. the other challenge for labour, they want to drive growth . how do you drive growth growth. how do you drive growth if you're sucking more and more money out of the economy? if you're raising capital gains tax, like there's a real tension there? >> yeah. i mean, is this not just socialism in action? actually and that everyone who can leave will leave or they'll move their assets abroad, or they'll pay a fancy accountant to be able to make sure that they don't have to pay all of this tax. and it's joe bloggs on the street who gets clobbered. >> i think that's unlikely to happen. 9500 is not very many people. when you consider i don't know how the millionaire class in the world apart from china, i don't know how the
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millionaire calculation is done there. i don't know whether that's including someone's house price, but if that if you're including someone's house, then actually there's a lot of millionaires in this country and people leave the country for warmer climes or nicer places all the time in terms of it being socialism, yes, absolutely. we love socialism. socialism is good. socialism is positive. in terms of council tax going up the last time council tax was reassessed was in the 90s. there are places in this country like margate, for instance, where what a house was worth in 1991 is dramatically different to the kind of income bracket and the kind of people living there in 2024. so reassessing council tax is a really good idea. however all of this is all of this is a massive divergence between what you say about that and people paying inheritance tax. >> all of this is a little hardly any people pay inheritance tax. but at the same time, you're about to tell me now that loads of people are now sitting on a load of property, which they probably would like to leave to their kids, which would mean that they would all be paying inheritance tax. >> there are two things here. firstly, this is all actually moot because the labour party has said that this is rubbish. they've said this is this was rejected when it was put forward that they're not planning to do any of this, and that it was put forward by a group that keir
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starmer was active in before he was campaigning to be prime minister. so they have actually denied all of this anyway. but inheritance tax is a very different thing because a very small number of people pay it, but it's a very big amount of money, so it's harder to get rid of for people, isn't it? >> something like 9% of people every single year. >> but that's a small a 9% of people who die every single yeah >> that is not a huge amount of people. the majority of us will not pay income tax. some of us, and as i say, whole lives wanting a lot of people, no. >> nine, nine people who die every single year, 89% of people don't pay this who don't. every single year year 80, 89% of people aren't affected by this. >> and as i say, i work, i think very hard to provide for my children. and i take some comfort knowing that when i go, i've hopefully made their lives less stressful going forward. now i fear that labour are going to attack that. you know why? why should the tories have left it? >> then? >> then? >> why should someone work hard and aspire to earn money if labour are just going to take it all at the end? >> lots of people in this country work hard, but also realistically the tories have
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left this tax in place for the last 14 years. inheritance tax exists for you because you have a lot of money. >> one thing i will ask let's just, just just flip it on its head slightly, if that's all right, and just talk about rishi sunak saying, oh look, we've got inflation to where we want it to be. now i'm going to, i'm going to cut your taxes. i mean, do we believe him? >> no, i mean both parties, both both parties are going to raise taxes. what rishi sunak did and i think in the long run, this might end up being the single most important bit of his legacy is he broke 40 years of cross—party consensus to freeze income tax thresholds. right. previously they went up with inflation. so you were taxed on your real income. now with inflation, every year your face value of your earnings goes up. the real buying power doesn't, but you're paying more income tax and more people are sucked into higher tax brackets. both parties are going to keep doing that over the next parliament. and they won't call that a tax rise because it's just it's just people being moved around because of inflation. so what the tories are really doing, it's quite dishonest, is that they are allowing lots of people to get sucked into higher income tax brackets and then cutting here and there and calling
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themselves tax cutters. now that's not better than labour because labour are going to do the same thing. but the tories are not going to cut your tax. >> it's on that point that i think we are actually possibly at a breaking point in this country when it comes to the social contract, because when you see that really each party, each major party could quite possibly be fudging the numbers . possibly be fudging the numbers. you have massive spending commitments by other parties as well. how are we going to fund that? but ultimately it's you and i and everyone we know who are going to foot the bill for this stuff. and then when you look around, are our lives really that much better? you look around, the polls are still there. aren't they? your bins might still not be taken out every single week. you still feel as though we're spending money in the wrong places. i mean, people used to fight civil wars over this stuff. >> look, i want to know. rebecca says it would be a good thing if council tax goes up. how will you react if suddenly keir starmer puts your council tax up by, say, 250, £300 a month? >> my council tax should go up because i live on an ex council estate in zone three. we'd be happy if you ask me a question. you have to let me answer it. >> you'd be happy if you had to pay >> you'd be happy if you had to pay another £300 a month. >> council. >> council. >> i don't that would be over doubung >> i don't that would be over
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doubling it, which i think is very unlikely. my council tax should go up by about 50 to 100. >> you'd be happy because i live in a very, very low council tax area and my house is worth dramatically more than it was when it was last assessed. >> it is wrong that i pay as little as nicola bulley worth double what it was worth in 1991 though. but more than that, way more in which case the area in which case doubling. >> doubling your council tax. >> doubling your council tax. >> that's but more than more than with inflation. >> inflation with that. yeah. >> inflation with that. yeah. >> you'd be happy to lose £300 a month. >> well it wouldn't be 300, but i would add £5,200 a month. you'd be i would fight i would think it was completely reasonable. >> one thing, the one thing that could turn this election around for the conservatives at this point is because they're not going to do this right. if sir keir starmer stood up and said, i'm going to do a council tax revaluation, that is the one thing because and it's a real problem in this country is that you're talking about who do we tax and we keep taxing earnings, right? we tax savings and we don't tax property. and it's electoral suicide to do it. so no one will. so the question is if you're going to keep trying to fund public services, if you're going to keep you're talking about councils earlier, why don't councils spend on bins and beautification . often it's and beautification. often it's because most of their budget goes on social care. right. so how are you going to pay for it?
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it is going to be taxes on working people because taxes on things like property, wealth are impossible to do. >> what's working person? >> what's working person? >> what's working person? >> what's a working person? what's a person who has a job, who goes to work, who earns almost everybody? well, yeah, it's a completely it's a bizarre, meaningless piece of political fluff. >> when people say working people, why does keir starmer say we're not going to tax working people? >> they both keep saying it's a rubbish, silly nonsense politics term. it's like when people talk about middle class, who knows what that means? so you know, it'd be nice if we knew what it meant, wouldn't it? it's a very silly piece of fluff that doesn't mean anything. >> let's be honest here. labour are not going to win this election out of support. they're going to win it out of every one hating the tories. i mean, that is the end of it. yeah >> well this is interesting because that does tie in a little bit with something that we're going to be talking about later. when you look at the personal popularity polls. so forget the general election polls, of which there have been many today. and when you look at the personal popularity polls, i've got the exact figures on this later. rishi sunak something like 74% of people say they don't particularly like him . you look at keir starmer, it's something hovers around the kind of 5,052% mark, which is interesting, isn't it ? because interesting, isn't it? because we could be on the brink of
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somebody winning a 200 seat majority, but not actually having any massive personal credit in the bank? so we'll be talking a bit about that later on. but still to come with boris johnson turning his back on the tory election campaign, have the wheels now totally come off for rishi sunak . political rishi sunak. political commentator theo usherwood offers his expert insight into that. plus news that nigel farage could achieve a record general election swing in his seat in clacton. but up next we bnng seat in clacton. but up next we bring you a gb news exclusive on the man who killed baby p back in two thousand and seven. well, i've got ex—prison, officer val zavros going head to head with broadcaster jenny barnett on whether child killers should ever be released from prison , ever be released from prison, and sparks are guaranteed to fly. stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up as he turns his back on rishi sunak by refusing to campaign in the red wall. is boris johnson exacting revenge on the man who booted him out of number 10? and what about nigel farage's massive swing? but first, should child killers ever be released from prison, it's time for the head to head. time now for a gb news exclusive parole chiefs are currently assessing whether to release the monster stepfather of baby p. they are reviewing files on stephen barker's progress in prison. 15 years
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after being sentenced over the crime, which shook the nation . crime, which shook the nation. the neo—nazi was jailed in 2009 for causing little peter's death, along with the tot's mum tracy connolly, and their lodger, well, connolly's back out on the streets of britain after being freed in july 2022 amid prison overcrowding, adding there are fears that barker, two, could now walk free. the parole board has told this channel that the 47 year old has officially been referred to them , and is in the initial assessment stage. this means they will assess files on him, likely to include how he's progressed in prison, if at all. relationships with other inmates and his emotional well—being. there is, of course, no guarantee that it will be released after that assessment. but it does beg. the serious question doesn't it? should child killers, baby killers in this case ever be freed? let me know your thoughts. go to gb news. com forward slash your say. tweet me @gbnews. make sure you vote in our poll. but first going head to head on this, our ex president officer val vavrus
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and author and broadcaster jenny and author and broadcasterjenny barnett. thank you very, very much, both of you. val, i will start with you. you seem behind the curtains of britain's prisons. should monsters like this guy ever be allowed out ? this guy ever be allowed out? >> not for a very long time, in my opinion . my opinion. >> and especially this, this person and you give him you titled him properly as a monster because he never showed any remorse. and as far as i'm aware, he hasn't showed very much remorse since this horrendous crime , i'd, i'd go as horrendous crime, i'd, i'd go as far as to say there's probably a debate to be had about bringing capital punishment back, for people like this and all. that's quite a strong statement. but these crimes , i think since baby these crimes, i think since baby p, there's been over 800 similar cases. and there needs to be a deterrent, in my opinion . and deterrent, in my opinion. and because these people, these offences keep carrying on and these people keep getting away, they go in prison to serve 15 to 20 years. that poor baby would
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be 18 years old. now, this guy has served 18 years in prison. in my opinion, he should never get released. >> okay. all right. good. strong start that jenny, what's your view? i mean, surely, surely this guy doesn't need a second or a third chance. i mean, he was also , though not just was also, though not just convicted of the baby pea death. he was convicted of raping a two year old girl as well . year old girl as well. >> yes. and this is a really difficult discussion because the knee jerk reaction is chuck him in and throw away the key. but somewhere down the line, we have to be a society that finds out why these things are happening. it used to be it took a whole village to bring up a child. now we are separate. we're in individual people . we don't individual people. we don't think about why it's happening, why more and more it's happening. what's happening in the prison system? what is rehabilitation ? and desmond tutu rehabilitation? and desmond tutu said to take a life . if we're said to take a life. if we're talking about, capital
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punishment , talking about, capital punishment, it's revenge. it's not justice and we have to be seen or not just to be seen . we seen or not just to be seen. we have to be a compassionate society. and compassion has to look at rehabilitation. it should not be okay. >> that's an interesting point, johnny. >> happening in gaza. >> happening in gaza. >> look, war, grief, i know we've managed to wheel gaza and desmond tutu, but because if you're only if you're i, if you're only if you're i, if you're going to take an eye for an eye, then you're not a society. i understand that, but l, society. i understand that, but i, you know, an for eye an eye. we're not talking about chopping the hand off someone who's done a bit of shoplifting here. you know, we're talking about a guy who's raped a raped a baby and killed another baby, right? and i do wonder whether or not those people can be rehabilitated. >> i totally agree, there's something wrong in the minds. even psychiatrists can't get to the bottom of it. so who are we to try and get to the bottom and even risk, really? i mean, i'll ask you this, jenny. if so. so
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if you're that adamant that this guy should be released, have you got children yourself? would you trust this guy ? trust this guy? >> do i i'm i'm not saying. i mean, you said at the beginning that he doesn't appear to have shown any remorse, and i think if some somebody is in that mindset , if some somebody is in that mindset, should we not as a society, look at what's going on that we create people like this that we create people like this that do such reprehensible crimes where do we begin to change that society . go on val, change that society. go on val, go. go on. val. >> yeah, but do we actually create these people? i think that i think the sort of born with that some thing different to the, not to the norm, if you like , there's something like, there's something radically wrong in their mindset and their thinking to be able to torture innocent children. i mean, if you did, if somebody did that with a dog, there'd be outrage, i, a dog might get a chance to bite that person back.
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that poor child just had to lay there and tech all that suffering and beating. >> i hear what you're saying, but somewhere to kill does not teach people to stop killing. and i agree with you. there's something wrong with the man's mind. there has to be something between prison and hanging them or executing. >> can i ask you, jenny? can i can i ask you? look, if it would it matter to you if he'd done all the same things he'd done? but now he said, i'm really sorry. i cry myself to sleep every night , sorry. i cry myself to sleep every night, and i realise what i did was wrong, because a lot of people watching, listening to this might just go, tough. that doesn't mean you still did it. you're still an absolute monster. i don't care if you're sorry, but don't you think that a human being any human being, has a meaning? >> there's a meaning for their life, and you think you know ? life, and you think you know? >> you know, i think. i think that's fair enough, jenny, to be honest, i, you know, i'm sympathetic towards what you're saying. but if we were talking about someone who, like i said,
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you know, had done, you know, there's quite a few crimes where i can see. look, someone's a difficult start in life and someone can show genuine remorse. and you don't just want to lock someone up and throw away the key and be like, well, you're done. but this is this is as bad as it gets. jenny. >> yeah , well, we two wrongs >> yeah, well, we two wrongs don't make a right. and i agree with val . the man don't make a right. and i agree with val. the man is unhinged. and if he shows no report, there has to be no remorse. there has to be punishment. but i don't think it should be the knee jerk reaction. america still has capital punishment . it does not capital punishment. it does not stop the violence, val. >> just go on. sorry. >> just go on. sorry. >> yeah. i run an organisation with a good friend of mine, our prison officer. 30 years. i've seen lots of these people in prison. we then decided to give people a second chance and. and help people . so i set up a help people. so i set up a charity called tempest novel with steve, my friend , helping, with steve, my friend, helping, giving people a second chance, getting them into jobs when they leave prison. but we have a limit on the type of offences
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that we work with. murder sex offences, terrorism and arson . offences, terrorism and arson. we do not work with that type of offenders. i don't know any company and we've worked with several companies, 50 to 60 big companies and i haven't come across one yet that would take on any of those offences . i've on any of those offences. i've just i've just mentioned to you this man has been in prison for 17 years. >> he's had scolding boiling water and sugar thrown over him and they know that he's going to face all sorts of horrible treatment in there. what do you think we should do with people like that? should they be in a different institution ? should different institution? should they be in prison? >> it shouldn't be in prison. it should stay there for a very long time. look what he did to that child. look what that child had to suffer. you know, it's i think it's i think it's what they call a bit of karma coming backif they call a bit of karma coming back if you. if at all. >> yeah. look, guys . thank you. >> yeah. look, guys. thank you. i know it's an incredibly difficult topic to talk about. it is it is an awful topic. and
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it is it is an awful topic. and i do really appreciate both of you coming on to talk about it and to, to, you know, maybe hold and to, to, you know, maybe hold a mirror up to both sides of that discussion. so thank you. that's val davros there who is ex prison officer and also author and broadcaster jenny barnet. look, who do you agree with on this? should child killers ever be released from prison? your verdict is in. 97% of you say that child killers should never be released from prison. 3% of you think that they should have the chance to go free. yeah. i mean, i find it hard to believe what those 3% of people were thinking, but i respect your views nonetheless. coming up, french police are once again standing idly by as we received a record number of channel migrant crossings yesterday. we've got some footage of it as well. i'll play you that in a little bit. plus, the unwashed eco zealots have just stop oil, of course, chaos at stonehenge is nothing sacred. should they face prison time? former prisons minister and reform uk spokesperson ann widdecombe is live later in the show. but first look, we spoke a bit about it already . show. but first look, we spoke a bit about it already. i show. but first look, we spoke a bit about it already . i want to bit about it already. i want to
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go into more detail. bombshell poll rishi sunak could lose his own seat on july the 4th. will that be game over ? do you think that be game over? do you think it is that poll game over. but nigel farage, is he about to pull off a record breaking swing in his potential constituency? very pleased to be joined by political commentator theo usherwood, who in. and that's after
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after another record breaking day in the channel are we fighting a losing battle against the small boats? who got some footage for you as well of? i hesitate to call them french border security. the way they waved them off. but we will show it to you nonetheless. but first, an astonishing new poll has suggested that rishi sunak will become the first sitting prime minister ever to lose their seat at a general election, with his party set to slump to just 53 seats and around three quarters of his cabinet booted out. and in yet another sign that the tories are apparently headed for wipe out bofis apparently headed for wipe out boris johnson will no longer join the conservative campaign trail because the party doesn't believe it stands a chance in the red wall seats, johnson won back in 2019. well, the former prime minister will instead jet off on holiday. well, i'm joined now by the former political editor at lbc. it says theo usherwood. theo, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. >> thank you very much for inviting me on sunak. >> then losing his seat. >> then losing his seat. >> thoughts it could happen. it's a 27,000 majority in northallerton and it would be he would be the first sitting prime
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minister to ever lose their seat at a general election. it would make the michael portillo moment of 1997. it would blow it out of all blood, out of the water. i mean, it would be an incredible moment. and what i would potentially say is that i think sunak has had a particularly bad campaign and, and he's borne a lot of the blame, rightly , many lot of the blame, rightly, many will say when you think of what happened on d—day. yeah. when you think of the mistakes , when you think of the mistakes, when at the very beginning of the campaign, when he came out in the pouring rain and he could well become a lightning rod in his own constituency for discontent, and it would be an astonishing moment if he stood on that stage, because, of course , it's unheard of for a course, it's unheard of for a prime minister to ever lose their lose their seat. and so if he if that were to happen, i think many conservatives, people like jeremy hunt, who could potentially lose his seat as well, will feel a little bit of relief because even if you look at some of the polling, 20 out of 23 of the cabinet are going
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to lose their seats in this election. and they might actually feel a sigh of relief because at least the focus is going to be on sunak. but it would be, you know, it would be an astonishing moment if i think that's actually a really interesting point that you've made there, because initially when these polls drop, you said there's a majority of about 27,000. >> you think it's the prime minister. he's not really going to lose. but the idea that if he does become that lightning rod for disdain or, you know, upset or a feeling of disappointment about the conservatives and it's all focused on him in that area, that could explain that. before we get on to the nigel farage story, boris johnson supposed refusing to campaign in the red wall, instead going off on houday. wall, instead going off on holiday . what i find interesting holiday. what i find interesting about this is that the tories were making quite a big deal out of the fact that they did have him a couple of days ago, and now they've not. i think there was a bit of a swirl in westminster, wasn't there, that bofis westminster, wasn't there, that boris johnson could come back, some thoughts that he could rescue the conservative party. >> boris johnson was never going to serve as leader of the opposition. you know, it's a thankless task. it is the hardest job in westminster, in the house of commons to be the
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leader of the opposition. it wasn't going to happen. a slight reality check on all of this, patrick. now, is that actually bofisis patrick. now, is that actually boris is living his best life. he's going off on his second summer holiday of the year. you know, you earn , he earns what, know, you earn, he earns what, 100 grand a time doing an after dinner speech , you know, just dinner speech, you know, just churning those out, getting on with his life . and i think i with his life. and i think i think what's more pertinent and this is what i pick up from those around boris, is that if you go back to what happened two years ago, it's almost two years to the day that they they got rid of him in the conservative party i think there's a lot of ill feeling still in politics. you, you know, politicians, journalists , you know, to shrug journalists, you know, to shrug your shoulders and say, well, that's the rough and tumble of it, right? you think, well, okay, these things happen. but actually there's certain things that you just don't forgive. yeah. and i don't think boris and i don't think boris johnson's supporters have ever forgiven sunak for stabbing him in the back as he would see it over partygate. and i also think there are many people who voted for boris johnson . that majority
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for boris johnson. that majority of 80 was his majority and many of 80 was his majority and many of those who were warning and cautioning against getting rid of him. two years ago said, hang on a moment before we do that . on a moment before we do that. bofis on a moment before we do that. boris johnson gave me the opportunity to be an mp . he won opportunity to be an mp. he won that majority for me and if we get rid of him, we're getting rid of our superstar. we're kicking our best player off the pitch . be very careful. pitch. be very careful. nevertheless, the conservative party, the higher echelons of the conservative party, circled round and decided to get rid of him . the party then rose up and him. the party then rose up and gave us liz truss. say what you like about her. yeah, her emergency budget and the fact she didn't run it by the obr. and then the conservative party got rid of her and then brought in rishi sunak. and i just think there's a, there is this sort of there's a, there is this sort of the uprising or the reckoning that we may see against the conservative party is not just about, you know, farage, nigel farage. and we'll talk about the poll in a second, has managed to galvanise that about reform uk. but i also think there's a lot of mps and i was getting this from a couple of red bull and tory red wall mps a couple of weeks ago, are picking up this
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fact that people feel let down, they feel betrayed by the conservative party, they feel betrayed that actually, after three years of prevarication about what brexit was, what brexit was going to happen, bofis brexit was going to happen, boris actually came in and managed to galvanise the party. i make no argument about whether brexit was the right thing to do or not, but he managed to galvanise the party, galvanise the country , get brexit quote the country, get brexit quote unquote done. okay, it was never donein unquote done. okay, it was never done in northern ireland. really but in this in england, scotland and wales it was . and then of and wales it was. and then of course, the conservative parties decided he was totemic. >> boris johnson, like you just said, there was a thing wasn't he? he was a symbol of something. and a lot of people got behind that . and then to see got behind that. and then to see that thing metaphorically decapitated by a group of people who were less popular makes you wonder whether or not you would ever vote for the party that did that. i'm just going to rattle through some of the people who are standing in richmond and northallerton, okay? because it's obviously not just rishi sunak. here's the full candidate list. it'sjason sunak. here's the full candidate list. it's jason barnett, independent count binface of the count binface party. i forgot about that. daniel george callaghan, liberal democrat angie campion, independent
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louise and dickens, workers party of britain kevin foster, green party rio goldhammer, yorkshire party, niko omilana , yorkshire party, niko omilana, independent. brian neale richmond, independent and also sir archibald stevenson, the official monster raving loony party, rishi sunak, there's lots of them, isn't there? conservative party lee martin taylor, reform uk and tom wilson, labour there. we go. now let's whiz it on to nigel farage because i suspect there's going to be one man and one party sweeping up a lot of those votes from the people that you've just described there who don't want to vote for the tories anymore. he looks set to win clacton, apparently by the biggest swing in modern electoral history. that's according to another new poll the reform uk leader is on course to win a whopping 42% of the vote. the tories trailing in his wake on 27, could it really be happening? >> it's extraordinary numbers. just to go back to 2019, by the way, the tories won a 72% vote share in clacton , so this would share in clacton, so this would be an unprecedented swing in uk modern political history. 42%
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vote share this poll is putting nigel farage on in clacton, labour on 516 seats, the tories on 53 and then the lib dems on 50. and i think what's also interesting is that gap between the tories and the lib dems now just down to three seats. and if you think about nigel farage coming into parliament, if he comes in just as a as a singular reform uk mp and the polls are actually suggesting he could get five, ten mps, then he's actually going to be if he comes in with that backing, he'll be more than just a lonesome figure on the conservative, on the on the opposition benches, trying to pull conservatives across. if he comes in with 5 or 10, it'll be much easier to pick off the likes of kemi badenoch, suella braverman, both who are expected to keep their seats and say, actually come over to reform . actually come over to reform. you then have a split in the conservative party and actually that gap, lib dems could quite easily become the largest opposition party. ed davey then take would then be at prime minister's questions facing off against keir starmer. i think
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the question is then going to be on the tory wets, the moderates , on the tory wets, the moderates, the one nation caucus in the party. are they prepared to accept that split because they're so proud. and you've seen what lord cameron , the seen what lord cameron, the foreign secretary, has been saying about not not listening to nigel farage ignoring him. are they going to follow that lead, or are they just going to be purely realistic and recognise that they can't do without they can't do without having to accept that nigel farage has to be part of that. >> do you think then and just finally, do you think then, that if reform end up getting , say, if reform end up getting, say, five mps, that that would actually draw conservatives on the right of the to party defect to reform? >> yes, i think i think it becomes a much more , a much more becomes a much more, a much more realistic proposition for nigel farage to say actually , we have farage to say actually, we have something of a party, we have something of a party, we have something going on here. why don't you come and join our party? but i think the real temptation is actually going to be when the leadership contest comes up with the tories. you're going to ask, you're going to ask. they're going to be two questions to be asked. it's firstly, are you prepared to
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accept nigel farage into the conservative party? this is just going to be mandatory for the before the mps select the two candidates, because these are going to go before the membership. right. are you going to accept nigel farage as a conservative mp? would you allow him into the party? and the second question is going to be about the echr and that's sorry. echr. right. so and that's the second and that's the will you be prepared to leave it and any candidate that is going to be successful amongst the membership is going to have to answer yes to both of those. and that opens the door for nigel farage to join the conservative party. think trump right? he didn't . what trump didn't do was didn't. what trump didn't do was create a party to the right of the republican party. it was a hostile takeover. he took over the republican party. and the only way that farage, you know, he's he's got ambitions for 2029, the only way he fulfils those ambitions, i think, is too much of a leap to say that he creates reform uk or term's reform uk into an election winning force. the other way he has to take over the conservative party. >> so theo, thank you very much,
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making your debut on this show. it definitely won't be the last time. great to have you on board. thank you very, very much. i've just got the candidates list for clacton, so here we go. jovan onwuzoo nepal who is the labour party? giles watling, conservative party matthew bensalem the liberal democrats, nigel farage, reform uk, natasha osborne, the green party, craig jamieson, climate party, tony mac, independent, taz papanastasiou heritage party and andrew pemberton, ukip. so that's your lot there, right? coming up, does this footage obtained by gb news prove that labour may not be home and dry in the upcoming election ? in the upcoming election? >> unfortunately, i don't like keir starmer, so he's one that i'm really against. >> rafe i will reveal all just after 10 pm. it's a good watch that by the way. but next migration madness. the record numbers of illegal channel crossings. but the french police stand by and film it all on their mobile phones. i will show you the footage of all of that. plus crazed agitators . just stop plus crazed agitators. just stop oil, of course, chaos at
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welcome back. still to come. i bnng welcome back. still to come. i bring you exclusive footage that could blow the lid off the idea that sir keir starmer is set for a historic landslide. but first, we welcome reform uk's immigration and justice spokesperson ann widdecombe. now after we warned of a channel migrant gold rush on monday , a migrant gold rush on monday, a record number of illegals arrived on uk shores from france yesterday , but french police yesterday, but french police once again don't seem the slightest bit bothered about stopping them. footage filmed by sky news yesterday shows migrants with children they're just wading into french waters there before attempting to board dinghies. meanwhile all the toothless french police stood by, filmed the whole thing on the mobile phones. look at that. honestly, as we revealed on this show a few weeks ago, these officers will be taken away from those beaches to staff the paris
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olympics next month, leaving people traffickers free to just operate with impunity. and well, look , we are about to face, are look, we are about to face, are we not an a channel migrant armada ? armada? >> oh well, i think we've been facing that for some time. >> i mean, i think what that footage proves is what everybody's been warning it isn't even just reform. i mean, people have been saying for a long time , you're giving all long time, you're giving all these millions to the french in order to help us, and yet they're not actually doing anything . and that was proof anything. and that was proof positive. they're not doing anything, so , so, until we have anything, so, so, until we have anything, so, so, until we have an absolute vie, perm plan to stop the boats, to stop them arriving here in the first place. and if people do arrive here to get them into secure detention until we've done that, this is just going to go on. there's nothing to stop them. why would they stop? >> well, well, in fact , it's >> well, well, in fact, it's getting worse. the perfect storm is upon us. you've got europe ,
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is upon us. you've got europe, you know, shifting to the right and the human traffickers fast tracking people through continental europe, saying, now, is your last chance to get to britain before someone who looks a bit like marine le pen might deport you. and so they're all on their way. the french are vacating the beaches so they can go and look after the olympic games. obviously, the irony they're being, they've got to protect it against terrorism, which was also largely imported. and then now you here we are. and then now you here we are. and we could potentially be getting a party in that. you know, many people have got question marks over whether or not they would welcome refugees. i mean, the shadow home secretary has held a sign saying she would. >> well, well, what we can be very clear about, you've only got to read the manifesto, is that labour has no policy, has no policy, on how to stop the boats , and indeed probably only boats, and indeed probably only reform has because rishi is still talking about rwanda as being the solution , you know, in being the solution, you know, in terms of numbers alone, rwanda cannot be the solution. >> just on that, anne, who is reform going to get to turn the boats back? >> well, i mean, we will do exactly what the australians and
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the belgians did , which is that the belgians did, which is that if, boats are entering our waters or are about to enter our waters or are about to enter our waters from french waters , you waters from french waters, you turn them back. but who does it? you turn them back and into, into their waters. >> but. yeah, but who turns it back? because i don't think the navy are going to do it. >> no we're not. no we've hardly got a navy. be sensible , we've got a navy. be sensible, we've got, we've got , but come on, got, we've got, but come on, come on. >> who does it? who does it? >> who does it? who does it? >> we've got a border force and we've got a coastguard, but i mean, the idea of a gunboat is ridiculous. nobody's suggesting that. and the point is , we're that. and the point is, we're allowed to do this in international law. everybody seems to think we're going to be doing something extraordinary. i mean, you might as well ask, how did the belgians do it? how did they do it? and that's exactly how they did it. >> so it's border force. so it would be border force and the coastguard that reform would have to rely on to turn the boats back, because they might just say, no. >> well, that's fine . then when >> well, that's fine. then when they arrive, they'll be put into i don't mean border force and the coastguard. when the migrants arrive, they will be
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put into secure reception centres, and that that is plan b and always has been plan b, whereas what's happening now is they arrive , they are sent to they arrive, they are sent to hotels, they are free to come and go from those hotels as they wish, and they simply disappear. >> yeah. i mean, that is happening. a home office spokesperson said today we continue to work closely with our french partners and prevent crossings and save lives. well, there we go. now an just stop oil they attack stonehenge today, just two days before the summer solstice . they sprayed summer solstice. they sprayed it, didn't they? as we can all see there with a load of orange guff, i mean, this is, i think, a massive problem. i mean, it's nothing. it's nothing sacred. and to i know two people have been arrested at the scene, but we're expecting more significant disruption at heathrow and gatwick airports as well. later this month . i mean, this gatwick airports as well. later this month. i mean, this is are they actually harming their cause more than anything here? >> well, they ought to be harming their cause , and people harming their cause, and people should be turning against them, you know , they've deliberately you know, they've deliberately chosen the summer solstice. solstice, when a lot of people, will be congregating at
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stonehenge , the druids and stonehenge, the druids and a whole lot of other people, and as usual , just stop oil is out as usual, just stop oil is out to make life difficult for other people , and this time, i mean, people, and this time, i mean, they're attacking a national monument , they're attacking a national monument, and something of great historical significance. now i think that the two people who've been arrested should be sentenced to prison. i have no doubt about it at all, because sooner or later, you've got to say, stop , i mean, also, we'll say, stop, i mean, also, we'll just say that there's, some apparently some protected species. i believe it's pronounced lichen, that's on there. so the irony being that actually they may well have done quite a bit to damage the environment. i know they say that, oh, it's cornflower and all of this, but but that is, thatis all of this, but but that is, that is an issue, i think that these people have just been been emboldened, though an and when you see that the labour party used to at least accept a bit of money from, from the guy who, who used to found just stop oil and fund just stop oil, i wonder what message that sends . what message that sends. >> well, exactly. and, you know,
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you talked earlier about the pubuc you talked earlier about the public turning away from them, but i think it's time that there was much firmer action, that they were themselves frightened. and the only way that you'll be able to do that, is to impose sentences that will cause people to stop and think as deterrent. >> yeah. as a as a deterrent. and look, thank you very, very much ann widdecombe there, the wonderful ann widdecombe look coming up. yes. could this footage unearthed by gb news prove that labour's predicted election victory might not be all it's cracked up to be? >> unfortunately, i don't like keir starmer, so he's the one that i'm really against. rafe . that i'm really against. rafe. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. fine. for most of us during the next 24 hours, clear overnight and then warm sunshine to come for many on thursday. in fact, sunnier skies for the majority on
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thursday, although overnight there will be some thicker cloud arriving into the north and northwest of scotland that will tend to sink south ever so slowly. with a fizzling band of light and patchy rain , the light and patchy rain, the breeze picking up that cloud and rain reaching northern ireland dunng rain reaching northern ireland during the early hours. england and wales, meanwhile, clearing skies and with light winds, temperatures falling into the single figures . in fact, in some single figures. in fact, in some spots 4 or 5 celsius by dawn . so spots 4 or 5 celsius by dawn. so a bit of a chill in the air once again , but it won't last long. again, but it won't last long. there's going to be plenty of sunshine for england and wales. same can't be said for much of scotland and northern ireland. northern scotland sees the best of the sunshine first thing, but for much of central and southern scotland we'll see thicker cloud and some light outbreaks of rain and some light outbreaks of rain and drizzle. at times . northern and drizzle. at times. northern ireland much of the rain will be towards the north and west, brighter skies towards the south and east. meanwhile, england and wales sunny skies, although there will be a veil of high cloud cirrus in the sky that will turn the sun a little hazy
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at times through the morning, temperatures rising quickly, then through the day. less cloud around compared with wednesday . around compared with wednesday. although there will be some fair weather cloud building across wales into the midlands couldn't rule out the odd light shower from this . and later in the day from this. and later in the day some heavy showers over the continent could just brush the far south—east. but where we've got the sunshine temperatures up to 23 or 24 celsius, so a warm and fine day for the vast majority. friday begins with cloud once again pushing into western and northern scotland, northern ireland and some outbreaks of rain move in more persistent wet weather towards the end of the day. elsewhere, staying warm and sunny once more. but for saturday we're going to see a band of showers move across before warm sunshine return on. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight . christys tonight. >> unfortunately, i don't like keir starmer. so he's one that i'm really against, right? >> footage obtained by gb news appears to show a labour campaigner saying some very revealing things and disgraceful scenes at stonehenge . but now . scenes at stonehenge. but now. are . eco warriors are taking the are. eco warriors are taking the government to court in a case that could change britain forever. also fighting hard for every vote. >> because i believe we can win . >> because i believe we can win. >> because i believe we can win. >> yeah, well, the latest polling shows that rishi is about to lose his seat. >> meanwhile, he is starmer and the opportunity destroying aspiration hating labour party and now boris johnson has turned
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his back on the prime minister. >> on my panel tonight. it's the acting editor of conservative home, henry hill. i've got landlord and activist adam brooks and author rebecca reid. oh . and. yeah. can you guess oh. and. yeah. can you guess what the bonkers warning is about? this year's olympic games? get ready, britain, here we go . we go. what do labour supporters really think of sir keir starmer. next? yeah, i just after 10:00 the latest gb news and a new poll is forecasting the worst election defeat for the conservative party in its nearly 200 year history. >> yougov's latest study
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projects 425 seats for labour, which is 125 more than they won in 2019. that would leave the tories with just 108 seats and the liberal democrats on 67, with 20 going to the scottish national party and five seats for a form the economy. and for the first time in nearly three years, inflation has fallen to the bank of england's 2% target. it's boosted hopes of an interest rate cut in the coming months. analysts did forecast the drop, which is down from 2.3% in april. the prime minister said today. the news is proof the government's difficult decisions are paying off. labouh decisions are paying off. labour, though, warned the cost of living crisis isn't over and pnces of living crisis isn't over and prices are still going up . the prices are still going up. the scottish national party promised today another referendum on scottish independence and they unveiled plans to rejoin the european union, launching their
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manifesto, the leader, john swinney, said he also wants to see an end to the two child benefit cap. scottish labour criticised the first minister, saying he was woefully out of touch and elsewhere george galloway pitched himself as the antidote to both labour and reform as he launched his workers party manifesto. he says he wants a referendum on the transition to net zero and promised to scrap london's ultra low emission zones a former fujitsu boss has denied any responsibility for the horizon scandal because he was never made aware of any problems with the software. richard christwho told the inquiry he felt aggrieved after initially believing the horizon system was one of the company's major it successes. he was chief executive of the company between 2000 and 2004, and says he always regarded the post office as a satisfied customer more than 700 subpostmasters were prosecuted by the post office,
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and handed criminal convictions between 1999 and 2015, after his company , fujitsu's faulty company, fujitsu's faulty system, made it look like money was missing from tills . now the was missing from tills. now the mother of a british teenager who's gone missing in tenerife, says having to search for her son is horrendous . it's jay son is horrendous. it's jay slater, from lancashire, was last heard from on monday morning. we understand the 19 year old called a friend to say he was lost with no water and his phone was on 1% battery. his last location showed he was in a mountainous region of the island, popular with hikers . the island, popular with hikers. the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has called just stop oil activists outrageous, saying they should face the full force of the law after they vandalised the ancient site of stonehenge in wiltshire. video posted onune in wiltshire. video posted online shows two campaigners, both now arrested, running towards the 5000 year old monument, spraying orange powder paint over it as members of the
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pubuc paint over it as members of the public ran forward to try to stop them. rishi sunak has called it a disgraceful act of vandalism. the desecration of the ancient stones comes ahead of the arrival of thousands of visitors for the summer solstice tomorrow. that's the news for the latest stories , sign up to the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common shirts. >> all right, welcome along. so the opinion polls show that sir keir starmer is on course for a stonking majority of around 200 seats. but is everything as rosy in the garden as it appears for the labour leader ? well, gb news the labour leader? well, gb news has been sent footage of what appears to be a man canvassing for the labour party. take a listen to what he has to say to one potential voter . one potential voter. >> unfortunately, i don't like keir starmer, so he's one that i'm really against, right? >> i mean, i'm gonna be quite honest with you, i'm, you know,
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like you love it or hate it. i'm a covid man. between you and me, i think keir starmer is a great person . allotey and grey. i person. allotey and grey. i don't like him. i don't like what he's done to me and other people in the left of the labour party. >> so why are you voting for him then? because of what? >> the tories out. okay. between you, me and the guy, please don't tell the rest of this morning i'm gonna be ranting because they will be able to beat the most likely to. the tory thing is jeremy corbyn, bless him, got the biggest swing to labour since 1945, but they got him on this antisemitism business. now i'm not an anti—semite , but i don't know anti—semite, but i don't know what they're doing in palestine . what they're doing in palestine. >> so he says he doesn't like the labour leader and he will actually be voting for the lib dems . this is part of a 13 dems. this is part of a 13 minute video obtained by us here @gbnews. we have chosen to
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obscure that man's identity because we didn't want him to face any recriminations from his party or any activists. the latest yougov personal popularity polls show 51% of the pubuc popularity polls show 51% of the public have an unfavourable view of sir keir . public have an unfavourable view of sir keir. that public have an unfavourable view of sir keir . that is, i must of sir keir. that is, i must say, much better than rishi sunak , at 72% of the public who sunak, at 72% of the public who don't have a positive view of him . but it begs several him. but it begs several questions. this, doesn't it even if sir keir wins a massive majority, how popular is he really? how popular is he among labour supporters , among labour labour supporters, among labour activists? and how many people going around telling you to vote labour are actually going to vote for the lib dems . let's get vote for the lib dems. let's get the thoughts from our panel this evening. i've got acting editor at conservativehome, henry hill. i've got businessman and activist adam brooks , and i've activist adam brooks, and i've also got author and journalist rebecca reid. and adam, i'll start with you on this. i mean, i do think that was quite funny. it's really funny. and it does beg the question of, you know, keir starmer can be about to win, you know, a stonking majority. but i think he's on
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quite thin ice. >> look, we have to be real here. labour cannot lose this election. it's nigh on impossible. they would need some huge scandal and even that would probably just even it up . it's probably just even it up. it's not going to happen. we've got to, you know, be real here. labour are going to romp this but there's many on the far left people like that gentleman . people like that gentleman. yeah. that are not happy with what the labour party are but are simply going to support labour because they're not the tories. there's a lot of the public. i said earlier that will maybe support labour because of the hatred of the tories, how badly they've messed up. yeah, i do wonder how many, whether or not, you know, we could get a labour majority, 200 or whatever, but how thin is that? >> because you see activists like that, people appear to be activists like that anyway, who are out and about, and they obviously don't particularly like him. they're actually going to vote in his case anyway. >> he says lib dem well, it's thin. it's thin in two ways. i mean, he's going to win that majority, right? i mean, all of
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this has to be predicated on that one. he the he starmer has tacked to the centre on a lot of issues.in tacked to the centre on a lot of issues. in that first tv debate, he attacked rishi sunak for being liberal on immigration. and that is good for moving towards where the voters are. but it does lead to a lot of disenchanted people on the progressive side of politics. and i think there's a danger for rishi, for not rishi, for sir keir in that. given that it looks like a labour win is in the bag, therefore more of them might think, okay, actually i can vote green, i can vote liberal democrat, whoever else. the other problem is you mentioned his like net unfavorability ratings. now it is better than rishi sunak's. but when you go into government, especially when you go into government and a really difficult time like now, you're going to become less popular because you have to start making hard decisions. and i think the problem that he's going to have in office is that he doesn't have a big buffer to create that honeymoon period or the base. >> and this is what i want to ask you, rebecca. you know, he's done a lot of work to shun. it seems really the corbynite wing of the party, the left of the party as well. so if he gets into office, which he almost certainly will, you know, he hasn't got a lot of credit in
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the bank, has he? >> no. so i feel a bit strange about that video. something about that video. something about it doesn't quite sit right with me. and i struggle without knowing who those people are or any of those things, to feel totally compelled by it. however, wherever that video came from, that is the truth of the situation. i have most of my most left friends don't like keir starmer. he is a centrist politician . he is centre left politician. he is centre left rather than left left and the momentum lot don't like him . momentum lot don't like him. however, the momentum lot and the sort of, you know, corbynista blue hair all that stuff, that's actually a very small number of people who make a lot of noise. and what keir starmer has understood is that the loudest part of the labour party is not the biggest part of the labour party, and a lot of those people actually are less likely to vote. so he's appealing to the right section of the party. >> yeah, but he's got it would appear that he's about to be elected on the basis of the fact that he's not the tories as opposed to, but he's far , far opposed to, but he's far, far from that's that's an old saying, isn't it, that people don't win elections, people lose elections, that he's far from the first politician to have got in because the other people. >> yeah, yeah, that's fair enough. but if that is the case, then i wonder how long that
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lasts. >> it worries me. is that keir starmer is put on this mask that he's central left , left of he's central left, left of centre, you know, left of centre. but he, he regards himself as a socialist i think he told the telegraph two weeks ago i am a socialist. i think we're going to start creeping towards the further to the left as we go into his term, and that really worries me. >> socialism is fairly central, like the nhs is a socialist organisation . socialism is not organisation. socialism is not necessarily. i'm not saying it's well run, but aneurin bevan original concept was pure socialism. well, yeah. >> okay, now i'm just going to slightly annoy my production team here by saying, do we think there's any chance i might be able to just play that video again? i know it's about 57 seconds long, but i think it's important. just in case anyone missed it at the start. if it's possible for us to play that again, it is ready. just have another look and listen to this. there are subtitles. like i said, we've taken measures to protect this individual's identity for the obvious reasons. so that's why we've changed certain aspects of the way it appears and sounds. but here it is . here it is. >> unfortunately, i don't like keir starmer, so he's one that i'm really against.
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>> right ? >> right? >> right? >> i mean, i'm gonna be quite honest with you. i, i'm, i'm, you know , like, you love it or you know, like, you love it or hate it, i'm a covid man between you and me, i think keir starmer is great. he's got personality and grey. i don't like him. i don't like what he's done to me and other people in the left of the labour party. >> so why are you voting for him then? >> because of what? the tories out. okay between you, me and the gatepost, you don't tell the rest of the small . the gatepost, you don't tell the rest of the small. i'm going to be writing it down because they will be able to be the most likely thing. the thing is, jeremy corbyn, bless him, got the biggest swing to labour since 1945, but they got him on this anti—semite ism business. now i'm not an anti—semite , but now i'm not an anti—semite, but i don't know what they're doing in palestine . in palestine. >> well, they're saying that he thinks he's got no personality . thinks he's got no personality. he's alienated the left. i mean, those are people out actually
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canvassing. is there a is there a chance, henry, that the this wave of optimism that might greet a new labour government with a stonking majority might actually be slightly overblown ? actually be slightly overblown? >> i think i think it is going to be extremely difficult . to be extremely difficult. they're coming in, they've got this big majority. but i think that's more an artefact of just how unstable our politics are, right? like the tories got an 80 seat majority five years ago and they are going to have to within a couple of years, start grasping some of the third rails of british politics. right. like, you know, councils are going to start going bust. universities are start going, going bust. all of our public spending commitments channels aren't stopping anytime soon. right. the channel crossings legal migration. they've said they want to get a gdp per capha they want to get a gdp per capita like economic growth might make everyone better off. like we're in the longest gap since the industrial revolution on that, they they can't do things like tax property because everyone would hate them. so they're inheriting an incredibly difficult in—tray. and nothing in their manifesto suggests they really grasp how bad the next five years are going to be. >> yeah. okay. >> yeah. okay. >> i just think that we've got a
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whole generation of people now that are going to find out that labour are not their friend ehheh labour are not their friend either. you know, they have this hatred of the tories and think things are just suddenly going to be rosy. they're not. we've seen this in the past. >> i don't think you're right because people like me. so i've only ever really lived under tory rule as particularly as an adult. the first election i could vote in was the david cameron one, i am the kind of person who will be helped by labouh person who will be helped by labour, like richer people. and older people might not do so well under this, but that generation you're talking about are going to be better off because they're the ones who labour favour . labour favour. >> i don't think anyone's going to be better off if you think people are going to be better off under this labour government, you're in cloud cuckoo. >> but interestingly, i think you hear better off and think ficher you hear better off and think richer and i think better off, as in like public services work better, more, more access to waitlists, better off, better quality of life fall apart. >> i think they're going to bankrupt. >> can i ask you on that when it comes to public services? okay the kind of individual that was talking there did also appear to have, you know, a unite thing on his thing, which is a major, major union. if the public services are going to get
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better, keir starmer is going to have to get people off strike. he's going to have to get them to accept pay. deals are going to accept pay. deals are going to have to get them to all of that. otherwise he's going to be crippled by the unions as well. and you've just heard what that chap had to say there. and i know a lot of people, as you will know, who are you know, big union people, big people of the left do not particularly like him either. so how is it going to get better public service wise? well i think particularly with the doctors, he gets a fresh start because they've been negotiating with a government who they have a very antagonistic relationship with and i think there's every chance that the medical unions will give him the benefit of the doubt and start over. >> and i think also with with negotiations with the unions, there's a pride thing, right? dropping down from your original offer is really embarrassing. so if it's a new prime minister, they can kind of drop their offer somewhat by saying it's a new government and we're giving them a fresh start , right? them a fresh start, right? >> do you think keir starmer goes the full term as labour leader , or do you think do leader, or do you think do i think the government falls. yeah. do you think the government falls with, with a with a 200 seat majority? >> it's effectively impossible for that government to fall where it would be. it would be incredible. but there are people i've spoken to i don't necessarily agree who think that when starmer runs as a road in
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about two years time, when all the initial stuff from the from the initial stuff from the from the manifesto in the first parliament, first couple of sessions have expired , that sessions have expired, that labour might start casting around for a new leader because he'll have acted as a sin eater. he'd have come in with not particularly impressive ratings. they'll have tanked and labour will be like, we want to defend this massive majority. maybe we switch labour. >> isn't that the problem with our political system is that we have a kind of spotify shuffle system where we're like, didn't work for a little bit, so we want something new. >> i mean, it takes more than two years to fix thing. i mean, i agree, i agree, i didn't want bofis i agree, i agree, i didn't want boris out. >> i didn't care about partygate. you weren't here. >> i have always said i would have kept this is why we're in a mess that we are now. >> i had no issue with boris staying. that is not true and not accurate. but specifically, i think we were agreeing that just changing the leader, changing the leader, changing the leader doesn't mean saying it makes things unstable. >> and let's just quickly remind there's a reason we've had to protect his identity is because many people on the far left are very nasty people , and they very nasty people, and they would have hunted him down. and certainly attacked it. >> yeah, it was obviously i mean, something that we were concerned about. yes, absolutely . vie, does beg the question as
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well, doesn't it? how common is that view on the ground? how common is that view from the labour footsoldiers coming up lock, who's joined sir keir starmer out on the campaign trail . trail. >> how are you. yeah. good. how are you? are we good. thanks for doing this. no, no. really good at all. >> there are some hilarious clips about that, by the way, gary neville, a man who grew up conceivably about an hour and a half away from the lake district, just discovering that the lake district exists. that was a big one for me. there's a lot to it. is that going to make the labour leader more or less popular, though i wonder? the full clip is coming shortly. but next, on the day that just stop oil activists are widely condemned for this stunt at stonehenge , an eco oceans group stonehenge, an eco oceans group has announced that it is suing the government over oil and gas licences. now, this is potentially massive, okay, because in the stroke of a pen, in a way, in a court case, it could fundamentally change britain forever. is that undemocratic? i will be to talking a senior lecturer in natural sciences at bangor university, professor christian
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conservation charity oceana uk is taking the uk government to court over its decision to grant new north sea oil and gas licences. now this, as you're about to find out, could actually have massive consequences for britain going forward. back in november, rishi sunak announced the oil and gas companies will be granted new licences to drill for fossil fuels in a bid to protect thousands of jobs in the north sea and boost our energy security. since then, 82 licences have been awarded, but now oceana uk is challenging that decision in the courts, claiming that it's unlawful because the government ignored warnings from the experts . they warnings from the experts. they say about the potential effects on marine protected areas. well, it comes just weeks after the echr sided with a group of elderly swiss women and ruled that switzerland s government hadnt that switzerland s government hadn't done enough to combat climate change and it probably won't surprise you to know that the law firm representing oceana uk acted on behalf of the migrant charity that successfully challenged the government's rwanda plan last summer , oceana uk's decision to
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summer, oceana uk's decision to initiate legal action against the government comes on the same day that just stop oil activists sparked outrage by spraying orange paint or whatever it was over stonehenge. well, look, i'm joined now by senior lecturer in natural sciences at bangor university, professor christine dunn. look thank you very much. great to have you on the show. the reason why i'm saying this is such a big story is because it appears to me that at the stroke of a judge's pen, this could now go make it illegal to have new oil and gas licences in the north sea, which takes the power out of the hands of what the public might vote for or what a government might want to do. and i think that seems quite undemocratic. >> yeah, if that is the case, then i would agree with you. >> however, i don't know if i'm not a lawyer. i don't have any inside knowledge here. but what oceana is saying is that they're actually not saying you can't drill or explore for oil in the in, in uk waters. what they're saying is you have to follow your own guidelines, and i can't see anything wrong with that. if
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the government said it set its own guidelines and then it's not following them, then what this is, is a judicial review . and is, is a judicial review. and this is an incredibly important part of democracy. this is how we, the public, one of the ways that we have a way to hold power to account, whether that's right or wrong, will then get decided in the courts. but this is so important for our democracy that if the government is doing something which is deemed not to be legal, either not follow their own guidelines or we have to be able to do this, it's that's democracy. we don't live in a totalitarian state. no, we don't. >> we don't live in a totalitarian state, but we also do not live and should not live, although unfortunately we do actually, as it currently stands, live in a state where a activist group and a. although they would deny this, some might call them an activist law firm can go and instead of standing for parliament and standing for election and trying to win a majority in the house of commons, and then making something a law and then getting it through the house of lords, could take something to a single judge in a room that would massively change the way britain deals with energy going forward.
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as a country as a whole country. >> yeah, i can totally see that argument . but this >> yeah, i can totally see that argument. but this is >> yeah, i can totally see that argument . but this is the system argument. but this is the system that we have in the uk and you know, it's democracy. it's the best of the worst scenarios that we have here. so we have to we, you know, we have to follow the law for this when it comes to should they stand for parliament. well, yeah, of course there are other ways to get this done. there are. you know, there's the ways that, you know, there's the ways that, you know, just stop oil are doing things which i mean, i agree with their principles behind what they're saying. i most certainly do not agree with some of their actions that they're doing, but there's lots of ways that we as public but we have we have a public who will vote for certain things. >> i'm not going to ask you to be drawn on the migrant crisis, right? it's not your wheelhouse. but we have a public who might vote for certain things when it comes to stopping illegal immigration. we have a democratic system whereby people in the house of commons can vote for something . it can get for something. it can get through the house of lords, it can have public support it. all right. but then you can end up again with activist groups , and again with activist groups, and it can even end up ultimately in something like the echr, like we
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saw in switzerland, where it's not even our own judges, it's foreign judges, conceivably in the dead of night, deciding that what our government has done and in this case this is important, will just be not to consider enough the issues with the climber, a government could consider the issues with the climber and decide that the best thing for everybody is to drill for oil and gas, in that area, so that our lights stay on. all right. do you not see that there is potentially an issue there when it comes to that, that we could now have bans on oil and gas in this country because someone from luxembourg ultimately tells us who might end up having some kind of eco activist background themselves, might tell us that we can't do that. >> i can definitely see that there is a point there, and you're making it very, very well as as not a lawyer, but as an as a, as i would class myself as an environmentalist. so as an environmentalist. so as an environmentalist, i would say that we have to be taking biodiversity , the climate biodiversity, the climate crisis, very seriously, and we
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have to and that has to infiltrate all our decisions, like our power supplies, etc. but where i would kind of perhaps disagree with some of my environmentalist colleagues is we have to do this in a pragmatic way, and we have to bnng pragmatic way, and we have to bring the public with us. and i think a lot of the problems that we are seeing now, like with just stop oil and these sorts of debates as well, is the fact that we've as an environment, we've not brought the public with us for a lot of these issues. we're kind of using the stick rather than the carrot. and i think that's ultimately going to end in tears for everybody . and we need to make everybody. and we need to make people understand that this is a serious issue which affects our daily lives now, not in ten, 20, 50 years time when our grandkids. it's going to affect our lives. now we have to do something about it. and there are huge advantages to not just the environment, but for actually our well—being. living in a nicer, cleaner , greener in a nicer, cleaner, greener place is good for us as well. there are lots of positives here and we have to sell those positives, not just the negatives . do this or the negatives. do this or the world's going to fall down. >> yeah, i just i'm deeply >> yeah, ijust i'm deeply concerned that we cannot continue to function as a
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country if every single time a government decides to do something. and by the way, this isn't just a conservative government. labour has said that they're not going to strip the new oil and gas licences, the ones that have already been put forward. all right, so we could end up with a labour government and then we end up in a situation where, again, a singular judge decides that we can't do this. and can i just ask what would happen going forward then? because this is the thing that i don't quite understand, which is let's just say then that a judge , whether say then that a judge, whether it happens to be or she happens to be british or indeed in a foreign court, decides that we can't do this anymore because we didn't consider our species of newt or something, i'd be deliberately obtuse there, but it didn't didn't consider that particular species. all right, well, what happens then? we end up just relying on some evil dictator abroad, do we? and we fight wars over it . fight wars over it. >> well, this is one. i think we actually have to look at this in actually have to look at this in a much bigger way than just even what you're saying is we have to be looking at when it comes to power, which is absolutely crucial for for us our society. we can't even be thinking in, you know, a court case or even a kind of a parliament's term. we
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have to be thinking long term, you know, 50, 100 years. that's what we have to be looking at. and that could be taking some big, big, uncomfortable decisions with our future power supply. you you, the use of more renewables, but also potentially the use of nuclear as well, which isn't being discussed here, but potentially that's what we need to be looking at. and yeah, of course, some sort of bridging oil and gas. and again, from what i've read, oceana aren't saying no drilling, no exploration. it's just if you're going to do it. but we know what it means. >> and you look at the direction of travel, you know, people like , like the bbc, for example, and possibly ofcom as well , saying possibly ofcom as well, saying that, you know, climate change is an uncontested thing . okay. is an uncontested thing. okay. so you don't have to try to get any balance on that, le. if you've got someone on who said, you've got someone on who said, you know, climate change is an absolute disaster and we're all going to boil in our own sweat, i would then not have to get somebody on to put the other side of that up, in the same way that i would have to with any other topic that i discussed on national television or indeed on radio. you look at some of the court decisions that have been made against people like greta
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thunberg, the kind of swiss geriatrics that we had on the continent there as well, you see the direction of travel with this, and if it is left up to the discretion of a single judge as to what is damaging for the climate, and you see the pushback there. i am very concerned that that is not democracy, really, but i do understand that these are the rules that there are in place. and i get all of that. and i do appreciate you coming on and putting that side of it up. and i do hope that we, we talk again soon. and one of the reasons i'll raise this now is because i could see in, well, whenever this finally reaches its conclusion a few weeks time or months time, people will be surprised by this story. where did this come from? and we can say, well, we covered it here first and we'll get you back on and we can debate the outcome of it. but thank you very much. professor christine dunne there, senior lecturer in natural sciences at bangor university. it's one to watch that genuinely is a big story to watch because that will have a massive impact on us going forward. but look, coming up, should gary neville stick to football ? stick to football? >> how are you? yeah. good. how are you? are we good? thanks for
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welcome back. i have got the very first of tomorrow's front pages for you right now . we pages for you right now. we start with the metro . sex start with the metro. sex offender on run, killed teen bravely fought to the end. they say a teenage martial arts black belt was murdered by a sex offender who then killed himself while on the run from police. a coroner's court has heard grief. the i tories despair as poll signals worst defeat in 200 years. i think that headline says it all. really? i did see something on social media as well that apparently now tories with seats that they think there's no chance of winning at all are being told that they are going to have all of their resources diverted away from them and towards others. the daily telegraph leads with tory wipe out. the exclusive telegraph poll gives the party
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just 53 mps and the prime minister is set to lose his seat. the daily mail. they've got the picture story there of those numpties at stonehenge. and yeah, the headline is nothing sacred to these eco clowns? yeah. i mean, it's again says it all really. it's just absolutely barbaric, that stuff. the guardian now reeves pledges to close gender pay gap once and for all. if labour wins, that'll be funny, because then they'd have to tell us what a woman is. there's also a picture of, vladimir putin alongside kim jong un. there we go, and let's go to the independent now . major go to the independent now. major poll shock sunak to lose seat in tory bloodbath . they've also got tory bloodbath. they've also got the stonehenge story on the front page. but i am going to bnng front page. but i am going to bring your attention now, if you don't mind, to a story that, landed moments ago . so. yeah. landed moments ago. so. yeah. buckle up, this is , the. well, buckle up, this is, the. well, it's in jewish news. it's a couple of other places as well, it relates to, it relates a
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little bit to islington north constituency , which many people constituency, which many people obviously will, will know who sits in that constituency and their labour party has been forced to resign. the, the chairman of, that labour party there. why? because activists spotted her campaigning for the seat's independent candidate, jeremy corbyn. yes. so alison mcgarry reportedly attempted to hide in a bush after she was spotted on jeremy corbyn's campaign trail and has now resigned before she almost certainly faced expulsion from the party. i mean, henry, this is this is quite funny and i dare i say it, another example of somebody who claims to be a member of labour actually campaigning on behalf of somebody else . somebody else. >> yeah, i think they're hiding in a bush. really? absolutely. is the cherry on the cake of this story, because, yeah, disenchanted activist is all very well. but that's just absolutely wonderful. i think starmer is quite fortunate in a way that the like, jeremy corbyn is a problem in one seat and it does appear to be fairly close. and i have leftwing friends who
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are going to who are going to campaign for jeremy corbyn are going to who are going to campaign forjeremy corbyn in campaign for jeremy corbyn in that very specific seat. but there isn't a wider threat on his left, which is why he's been able to move so far to the centre. but as we've seen from the previous stories, there are a lot of people in the labour camp who are very disaffected with his leadership and what he's done to get into this position, and it will be interesting to see when he gets life gets difficult for him. if the knives come out. >> can i just say this is the another aspect of this story is that the latest polling from islington north suggests this yougov poll put labour on course for victory . it's been held by for victory. it's been held by jeremy corbyn since 1983, so the margin here has got the labour candidate, praful nargund , on candidate, praful nargund, on 41% of the vote, with jeremy corbyn on 36% of the vote. so the fact that the chair of islington north's labour party was campaigning for jeremy corbyn and not the labour candidate is remarkable. >> look, i always said that the far left i call these like the
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far left i call these like the far left i call these like the far left are like a cult and they cannot help themselves. but to group together and that's showing again. we see it earlier with someone that was way left of where labour are sitting at the moment. voting for the lib dems because he doesn't like keir starmer here. we've seen it again and that will be reflective across the country with the far left. they will not want to support starmer , but want to support starmer, but some may vote labour just to keep the tories out. >> what do you make of this? you've got alison mcgarry here accused of hiding in a bush and supporting jeremy corbyn instead of the labour party, despite being the chair of the local labour party. >> i think it's brilliant because, i mean, she's gone like the trash has taken itself out. we don't have to worry about her. people who support jeremy corbyn like this are, broadly speaking, very at ease with anti—semitism. he was jeremy corbyn, was my mp . i lived in corbyn, was my mp. i lived in islington north for many years. the stranglehold he has on that place is insane. i'm fairly sure he will win this, because i think a lot of people will be saying , oh yeah, think a lot of people will be saying, oh yeah, i'm think a lot of people will be saying , oh yeah, i'm not going saying, oh yeah, i'm not going to vote for him. i care about anti—semitism and the privacy of the ballot box don't really care, but i'm delighted to see yet another person who is not
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good for the party being out of the party. >> i just think it's a hilarious story. this i now have to tell you. all of the candidates standing in the constituency nonh standing in the constituency north jeremy corbyn, independent paul jostling, independent vikas agarwal, liberal democrats karen harris , conservative and labour harris, conservative and labour shephard and kate green. we've got martin nelson as well of reform uk now the former manchester united footballer and well known pundit gary neville has converted from right back to left winger relatively recently, vocally backing the labour party for the upcoming election. now to give his pal sir keir a hand, he took him to the lake district for a very friendly interview that was published tonight, as well as repeating his promises of for change the country, starmer had this to say to the electorate. >> how are you? yeah, good. how are you? are we good? thanks for doing this. no, no. really good at all. how did you find this place? >> so my parents brought us here every single year when we were growing up. they loved the lake district. they went on the honeymoon there and so i've been here so many times.
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>> if your mum and dad were here now in these cottages, what would they be saying to you ? would they be saying to you? >> they'd be having a real moment. and so my actually , if moment. and so my actually, if she was back here now and i was in a race to be a candidate for the prime minister of the country, they'd be really proud. >> what are the things that you said? how did you find this place? it's the lake district. it's on a map. it's very popular. gary never'll, i think, grew up about an hour and 15 minutes away from the lake district. >> not everyone has a car. patrick, check your privilege . patrick, check your privilege. >> you know, should know where it is. i mean, it's unbelievable. i mean , you know, unbelievable. i mean, you know, did he not get out? i mean, i don't know, i don't know. what don't know, i don't know. what do you make of that? >> should i think it's always difficult for people who write about politics a lot to assess something like this, because ultimately the job of it is to humanise sir keir starmer. right. and if you're someone who doesn't tune into politics, one year to the next, maybe this gives you a new impression of the man, but you write about him every day. probably see more of all the politicians than we'd ideally like to in the best versions of our lives , so it versions of our lives, so it just seems entirely staged. >> what is this? because gary
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never'll does a lot of work as a pundh never'll does a lot of work as a pundit as his main job isn't. it should they be getting involved in politics? i think he copped it a bit at the world cup as well. >> i've had some big ding dongs on twitter with gary neville over the qatar. you know, he he took money off of the qatari state broadcaster. you know, thatis state broadcaster. you know, that is a state that is won, got terrible human rights record. >> is housing hamas now actually criminalises gay sex. >> and also it's one of the worst pollutants per capita in the world. so for me, he's one hypocrite. gary neville. and for the labour party to be sort of cosying up to him with all the issues that they try and, you know, take the virtue signalling line on is a bad look. >> all right, rebecca, your views on gary neville wading into this general election campaign. >> i think it was very nice. i think it's nice to see two nice men going for a walk together, it looks like they're having a lovely time exploring the countryside, some positive masculinity there for us all to enjoy, some positive masculinity for us all in two. nice. two. nice men in middle age enjoying for a nice little walk.
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>> you know what's quite funny? >> you know what's quite funny? >> they seem like nice. man. >> they seem like nice. man. >> can i just say, you know, what is actually really quite funny is that i was in the lake district, like last week . right? district, like last week. right? and i was there for a few days. >> what were you there for, patrick? >> which means. which means that there is potentially the possibility that i could have bumped into keir starmer and gary neville on a walk , which, gary neville on a walk, which, which would have been hilarious. but anyway, coming up as a report warns that olympic athletes could die of overheat athletes could die of overheat at the paris games because of global warming. is this more climate alarmism? we'll debate that next, and i've some more front pages you, so stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys . tonight. some more front pages for you. let's do it. . tonight. some more front pages for you. let's do it . okay, so for you. let's do it. okay, so it's the times, tory said to suffer as a theme on the front of tomorrow's front page. as tory said to suffer worst poll defeat for 100 years. i think it was 200 years on one of the other papers. but yes, seat by seat analysis predicts a
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majority of 200 for labour, the lib dems gaining dozens of seats and rishi sunak out on his backside . let's stick with this backside. let's stick with this now. boots and superdrug sell wegovy jabs without proper checks. these are the weight loss injections . apparently loss injections. apparently they're selling them online without examining patients . without examining patients. they're saying that this is dangerous. i think most people would assume that it possibly is dangerous. the mirror. now come on, england way. kane. the dane's 50,000, joins prince william in germany to roar on the three lions workers to knock off early as 20 million people to watch at home and in pubs , to watch at home and in pubs, which i think we can all agree bodes well for the birds. yeah, bodes well for the birds. yeah, bodes well for the birds. yeah, bodes well for the first hour of my show tomorrow. this doesn't say it, but, millions of fans are knocking off early today to get behind england as they take on denmark in their quest for euro 2024 glory. so there you go. those are all of your front pages for you . but i am, of pages for you. but i am, of course, welcomed by my press pack. we've got henry hill , pack. we've got henry hill, who's the acting editor of conservative home, businessman and activist adam brooks , and
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and activist adam brooks, and author and journalist rebecca reid. now, i wanted to get stuck into this story. okay, so olympics athletes could die of overheating at the paris games later this summer due to extreme heat caused by global warming. thatis heat caused by global warming. that is the warning in a new report which branded climate change an existential threat to sport. the previous olympics in tokyo was dubbed the hottest in history, where temperatures exceeded 34 degrees. adam, do you believe that athletes are these finely tuned rolls—royces of human beings are going to drop dead because of how warm paris is? >> what a load of nonsense, a laugh when i got sent this story earlier. try reading this out to some of the african competitors and see what their facial expressions are. this is just more climate alarmism . they want more climate alarmism. they want us to be scared. they want to control us in the future . it's control us in the future. it's just not cutting through. you know, you can't scare us. we know, you can't scare us. we know it's nonsense. >> i do wonder , i mean, a lot of >> i do wonder, i mean, a lot of these athletes, i dare say most
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of them at some point will do training in very, very hot countries at altitude. >> i mean, they are pushing their bodies to the limit. i don't know how many. i mean, i looked at this and i thought it reminded me of that one that we had last month where last month was the hottest may on record, i think. but you won't have noficed think. but you won't have noticed because it was all at night while we were asleep. >> yeah. i think the problem that the that sections of the, of the climate change lobby have doneis of the climate change lobby have done is that they have cried wolf. right. because i think it is an important issue. but i hear something like this and i'm thinking, oh, really ? like in thinking, oh, really? like in theory, remember, the olympics is a global event , which means is a global event, which means that countries well, to the south of france are eligible to host it. right? or is it actually going to be the olympic committee, or is it going to be like a northern hemisphere thing ? is it going to be like like the latitude that have qualifying countries gets higher and higher. so, you know, heat is dangerous. exerting yourself . is dangerous. exerting yourself. i was at the trooping of the colour a couple of years ago. some people fainted like don't want to downplay that. have water and medics on hand right. yeah. but it's not going to be killing people.
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>> i wonder if they lose the argument a bit here. i just find it baffling. i mean, how hot is paris going to get? >> i think it's not really the heat. it's the fact that some places like london and paris are really poorly equipped to deal with it. so when it's 30 degrees here, that is a completely different experience from it's 30 degrees in florence, where the buildings are built to not retain heat and in order to keep you cooler. and they have built up a kind of pattern of their life to deal with it properly. that's why we're so bad in heat here. but i would just like for balance to say that climate change is real and that the planet getting hotter is dangerous and a bad thing. i said that these i know you know, i know, i know you, i know you did. but i think adam doesn't think that. >> and i'm worried by that. >> and i'm worried by that. >> that changing your boiler or buying an electric car makes no difference to the climate and will not change the climate in 30 or 40 years. >> world. >> world. >> so let's stop the alarmism. let's get real. maybe the planet is getting hotter, but it goes through cycles. >> the other do not believe that climate change is not manmade . i climate change is not manmade. i mean, you don't believe in man made climate change load of nonsense , right? nonsense, right? >> the other aspect of this is, that where does this end? so do we end up with a situation where
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our athletes are banned? i mean, they've got to get to the olympics. so so do we all. do they take boats there? i mean, realistically, climate change, a big part of climate change is going to be adaptation, right? >> like you're going to have to make sure that the olympic village has proper air conditioning, that you have proper medical on site for, like, like, like to the extent that it like, like, like to the extent thatitis like, like, like to the extent that it is happening, you're going to have to adapt. that's practical. but no one is going to go, oh my god, i think someone might fall over on the 100m. i guess i'd better to vote tank my economy like, like this, this, this, this kind of, this kind of this kind of story. even as someone who genuinely believes climate change is an important issue, it's just counterproductive. >> yeah. when people's houses are being swept away in floods. yeah. the idea that some guy might not go out to play tennis on a hot day is not really my main top of the list priority. >> yeah, i do, i do wonder a bit whether or not they're kind of losing the art. this is the it's the i would argue maybe at times needless sensations. and i don't think that helped too much as well with some of those headunes well with some of those headlines like we saw, which were delivered completely straight down the line, which is you won't have noticed that may was the hottest on record
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because it was happening at night. if there's a sense for people, i think we're being asked to disbelieve what we can see and feel with our with our we some pr flack who's like, what's a big thing that's coming up the olympics? >> how do we get a story out of the olympics ? and that's exactly the olympics? and that's exactly how this has come about, right? and it's so obvious to be cynical because instead of giving people because people are adults , right? give them adults, right? give them a straight argument. it's just some clever person and agency being like, yeah, the olympics will be big. >> that's what i was about to say. the exact same thing. but i think it's worse than that. i think it's worse than that. i think it's worse than that. i think it's a load of graduates and everyone going, what do like poor and stupid people care about sports? let's do that. and thatis about sports? let's do that. and that is exactly. there are people who think that there are demographics who are too dumb to care, just to just to cover my backside now in case disaster happens. >> i certainly hope nobody does drop dead of heat exhaustion at the olympic games. but there we are. right? it's time to do today's greatest britain and union jackass. okay, so, henry, can i have please your greatest britain nomination? >> right. so my greatest britain is actually prince william, because all the stuff that the royal family's been going through recently, i think you
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seem going back to royal duties. and i think every so often, all of us, including me, because i don't write about them a lot. we just think they've got a very easy life, you know, they turn up, they cut some ribbons and so on. but actually, royal duties are really full on. and when your wife has got whatever it is that kate has, the fact that he is still out there flying the flag, i think that's admirable. >> good start. >> good start. >> mine is a very special young lady, young, young girl called ada hamblin. who has a rare condition called cnn and has donated skin samples, which has led to a breakthrough in reversing the condition, she's fundraising for caring matters now. who are supporting families with cnn , she's a brave, brave with cnn, she's a brave, brave girl. i know her parents and i wish her luck and send her my love. >> absolutely , yes. well done. >> absolutely, yes. well done. and good luck, ada as well. with everything. so thank you for bringing that to our attention. and rebecca, your greatest personally mine is lady gabriella windsor. >> so rightfully, everybody was praising kate for being at the trooping of the colour, which was very brave, but it was also lady gabriella windsor's first appearance since her husband
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thomas kingston, died tragically earlier this year. and i think it's also very brave of her to show up to support the king. >> i must say , quite a wholesome >> i must say, quite a wholesome selection of greatest britons. there i have gone for prince william. but what i will say is that i literally could have gone for any of those, and i would like to declare them all winners very genuinely as well, who are your union jackasses? go on. >> i mean, mine for this week is bofis >> i mean, mine for this week is boris johnson, you know, the fact going on, going running and hiding on holiday, right? like he made a big thing about the red wall. he said he had a connection with those voters. and even 24 hours ago, he was going to be out on campaign. >> he was. >> he was. >> i find that weird, right? and then all of a sudden it's like, actually, no, i'm going to stay on my first holiday and then i'm going to take another holiday and be out of the country until polling day. it's just cowardly. >> it's her 60th birthday today. you're kicking him on his birthday, i mean, i actually, i actually don't have a massive problem with what boris johnson has done. i'd find it quite funny , but i think that maybe funny, but i think that maybe he's led rishi sunak down the garden path a bit here. and said, you know, it kind of stuck
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two fingers up to him. >> the conservatives stabbed him in the back. he's just repaying the favour. >> yeah, i mean, i'm not surprised he's done it, but. go on. >> adam. right. >> adam. right. >> my , nomination is the french >> my, nomination is the french police for waving off the illegal migrants that are coming to the uk . they are taking our to the uk. they are taking our money and taking the. >> yeah, well, well, i mean, they are really. i mean, it is becoming increasingly difficult to deny that. and we did run a story here a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago, that shows that some of the money that the british taxpayer has spent has been spent by the french protecting a local football stadium from migrants sleeping in it, which i don't think is the top of the list for british taxpayers. rebecca who's your union jackass? >> mine is anybody who missed the deadline to vote. it was very important. you should have done it. and it's also bad for your credit rating. >> yeah. what do you make? >> yeah. what do you make? >> well, no. sorry. go on. >> no. being registered to vote is important for maintaining a good credit rating. >> is that a thing? >> is that a thing? >> yeah. being on the electoral roll, it's very important. >> well okay. well, we have not got time to go into that, but martin lewis. >> rebecca there we go . >> rebecca there we go. >> rebecca there we go. >> well there we are. right. today's winners of the union jackass. are the french police.
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it had to be, didn't it ? all it had to be, didn't it? all right, well, look, can i just say a massive thank you to everybody who's been watching and listening online? i would urge everybody, if they've got a little moment to go back, rewind something and just have a little look at what we did at the top of the 10:00, which i thought was quite a funny video of somebody who appears to be a labour canvasser saying some things that many might regard as being home truths about the sentiment of the left towards towards sir keir starmer. i'd like to thank my wonderful panel like to thank my wonderful panel. thank you, thank you, thank you. headliners are up next for a more in—depth look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. take it easy. all right . pages. take it easy. all right. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. fine. for most of us during the next 24 hours, clear overnight and then warm sunshine to come for many
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on thursday. in fact, sunnier skies for the majority on thursday, although overnight there will be some thicker cloud arriving into the north and northwest of scotland that will tend to sink south ever so slowly , with a fizzling band of slowly, with a fizzling band of light and patchy rain , the light and patchy rain, the breeze picking up that cloud and rain reaching northern ireland dunng rain reaching northern ireland during the early hours. england and wales, meanwhile, clearing skies and with light winds, temperatures falling into the single figures in fact, in some spots 4 or 5 celsius by dawn. so low a bit of a chill in the air once again, but it won't last long. there's going to be plenty of sunshine for england and wales. same can't be said for much of scotland and northern ireland. northern scotland sees the best of the sunshine first thing, but for much of central and southern scotland we'll see thicker cloud and some light outbreaks of rain and drizzle. at times. northern ireland much of the rain will be towards the north and west, brighter skies towards the south and east. meanwhile, england and wales sunny skies, although there will be a veil of high cloud cirrus
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in the sky that will turn the sun a little hazy at times through the morning, temperatures rising quickly, then through the day. less cloud around compared with wednesday, although there will be some fair weather cloud building across wales into the midlands couldn't rule out the odd light shower from this . and later in the day from this. and later in the day some heavy showers over the continent could just brush the far south—east. but where we've got the sunshine temperatures up to 23
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gb news. >> it's 11:00 here with gb news. in a moment. headliners but first, let's take you through the latest news headlines and a new poll released today is forecasting the worst election defeat for the conservative party in its nearly 200 year history. yougov tv's latest study projects 425 seats for labouh study projects 425 seats for labour, which is 125 more than they won in 2019. that would leave the tories with just 108 and the liberal democrats with 67 and 20 going to the scottish national party and five seats for reform . in other news today, for reform. in other news today, for reform. in other news today, for the first time in nearly three years, inflation has fallen to the bank of england's 2% target. that's boosted hopes of an interest rate cut in the coming months. most analysts are forecasting the drop. were forecasting the drop. were forecasting the drop rather, which is down from 2.3% in april. the prime minister, rishi sunak, said today the news was proof the government's difficult decisions are paying off. labouh decisions are paying off.
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