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camilla tominey coming with me. camilla tominey coming up on tonight's show, we're going to be discussing england's . well, i would say a draws a draw, but fairly disappointing performance against denmark with big sam allardyce. we're also going to be speaking about the tory election betting scandal . tory election betting scandal. could things get any worse for rishi sunak.7 and i'll be taking on a just stop oil protester after that attack on planes at stansted . stansted. we'll also be joined by government minister covid kevin hollinrake and shadow paymaster general jonathan ashworth , as general jonathan ashworth, as polls predict a tory wipe—out at the general election in just two weeks time. do get in touch with your thoughts on tonight's topics by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay but first, here's the news with polly middlehurst .
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middlehurst. >> camilla, thanks very much indeed. we begin this bulletin with some breaking news concerning the actor donald sutherland, whose career spanned more than seven decades. he has died at the age of 88. his many credits included the dirty dozen in 1967, the war comedy mash in 1970 and ordinary people in 1980, which won the academy award for best picture . more award for best picture. more recently, he starred in the hunger games series of films. he was the father of kiefer sutherland and is often cited as one of the finest actors never to have won an oscar. he did, however, win two golden globes and an emmy. donald sutherland, who's died today. now, in other news, the bank of england held its interest rate today at 5.25. it is the highest level since 2008, and it's a blow for borrowers . but it could be good borrowers. but it could be good news for those with savings. the
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bank says it needs more certainty that inflation will stay low, but minutes from the bank of england's meeting hint at the possibility of a rate cut in august, when they next meet . in august, when they next meet. the conservative candidate, laura saunders, who is facing a probe over allegedly betting on the timing of the election, says she will be cooperating with the gambling commission . laura gambling commission. laura saunders and her husband tony lee, who is the campaign director for the conservative party, are both under scrutiny over allegations . is a solicitor over allegations. is a solicitor for mrs. saunders, says she's also considering legal action against the bbc and other outlets for infringements of her privacy rights. it comes after another tory candidate, craig williams, admitted to an error of judgement after he placed a bet on when the uk election would take place . michael gove would take place. michael gove has said today the tories are still capable of pulling off what he's called a poll defying election victory , despite election victory, despite forecasts of a labour landslide. well new yougov data suggests the conservatives will slump to their lowest number of seats
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even their lowest number of seats ever, while labour could win a 200 seat advantage. it's also predicting significant gains for the liberal democrats, winning 67 seats. that's six times their result of 2019. now for the latest from the euro's in frankfurt, where england have drawn one all with denmark in the german city. we've been showing you the fan zone in wembley and in nottingham today on gb news, where fans were pretty excited to get together and cheer on the england side. gareth southgate chose to stick with an unchanged squad following his team's one nil victory against serbia. well, i can tell you that harry kane scored a great early goal, but denmark equalised shortly afterwards. england's next match, against slovenia on tuesday next week, one all in frankfurt. that's the news for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts .
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news. com slash alerts. >> welcome back. thanks, polly. right, let's have a discussion about this euros match england versus denmark one all draw could have done better. that's the school report i think this evening. joining me live now from a very lively fan zone is east midlands reporter will hollis will. my goodness me they don't make it easy do they. what's going on. what is the fans reaction on. >> yes. well all the excitement , >> yes. well all the excitement, all of the tension and it all goes wrong. it was an 18th minute tap in from captain harry kane that took england ahead, but it didn't last forever as denmark equalised pretty soon after. it has been a tense match here before the 500 or so people in nottingham that have come down to bink's yard in front of the biggest outdoor screen in the biggest outdoor screen in the east midlands. lots of people waving their flags cheer on england, but towards the second half and afterwards it
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was nail biting and this wasn't really the result that they wanted. it means that they do now have to fight against slovenia to make sure that they do get to go to the final 16 into the next round, instead of a clear win here that would have put them through with no objections. even with a loss in the next game, the football here is ending, but the party is only just beginning. well, i can see people i can see. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> hello, lads. yes, thank you very much . i >> hello, lads. yes, thank you very much. i can >> hello, lads. yes, thank you very much . i can see people very much. i can see people throwing pints of beer in the air in celebration at that harry kane goal. well, did you get coated in lager .7 i'd assume, by coated in lager? i'd assume, by the way, that people may have snuck out of work a little early today and maybe phoning in on friday, suggesting that they may need a duvet day ? need a duvet day? >> yes. well, the football started at 5:00, this opened at 3:00, and some people , of 3:00, and some people, of course, would have got out of
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work a little bit earlier. i was speaking to one chap who says that he takes the days off for these football games . now, these football games. now, regarding the beer here in nottingham, we're a little bit more civilised. i didn't see any pints going up in the air here, but new research from aldi says that every time england score gareth southgate scarf, gareth southgate's side sends 5 million pints into the air. so every time that there's a goal, 5 million pints go in the air. i was speaking to the chap who runs the events for this place, bink's yard, and he says it's good for business because it means that they have to buy another beer, but it also means that they have to buy a load more mops as well . more mops as well. >> well, to be fair, it doesn't look as if nottingham fans have had a problem with that result. they seem very animated and very energised by gareth southgate's rather strange formulation of players on the pitch today, but they seem happy. will now you go and have a lager? yeah, put your feet up and we'll no doubt be rhiannon advising you for the next match against slovenia .
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next match against slovenia. he's gone. well, let's speak to big sam allardyce now for some expertise on exactly what's gone on now. big sam, is it just me or is this quite painful watching what is happening ? watching what is happening? >> well what a waste of beer. first. indeed it is a waste of been first. indeed it is a waste of beer, unfortunately , i am not beer, unfortunately, i am not smiling. i am very disappointed. and of course, the lack of organisation and the lack of energy in the england side today was very apparent. top quality players not being able to perform to the best is a big, a big, big worry. perform to the best is a big, a big, big worry . we saw it in the big, big worry. we saw it in the second half against serbia. we've seen it almost through the entire game today, where denmark tactics really outweighed england's tactics . and while we england's tactics. and while we might have a better quality of player in terms of all round, in terms of the team, we picked , terms of the team, we picked,
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certainly denmark as a team played much better than, than england did. and the that was really down to the fact that denmark pressed england. they pressed and pressed and pressed forced them into basic errors. england, in the same position when denmark had the ball, stood off them and allowed them to play off them and allowed them to play through them. and of course, i think they find themselves extremely lucky this evening that it's a11. it's a point we can't keep coming back and saying for me, well, it's a good point . you know, we can good point. you know, we can move on. they've just got to get better . gareth has to pick the better. gareth has to pick the right team. he has to look at the team in the two, the two games they've got, he has to look at the squad and he has to look at the squad and he has to look at the system and say i have to change something. i have to be quite i, i personally think quite dramatic and say this is our tactics, this is who's going to play. this is the way we're going to play in the next game and give a little bit of spin and hope from for the
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fans who are obviously out there supporting the team and throughout the country , a little throughout the country, a little bit more hope because at the moment , if we bit more hope because at the moment, if we come bit more hope because at the moment , if we come across bit more hope because at the moment, if we come across a spain, you know , or we come spain, you know, or we come across a france, yeah, you know , across a france, yeah, you know, i can't see us doing, doing the job. i can't see us winning the game, you know. so, you know, the teams have just played a lower, lower down in the rankings in the international scene. and we've struggled. >> sam, as you say on paper. and indeedi >> sam, as you say on paper. and indeed i think we're the favourites according to the bookmakers going into this tournament, on paper this is a team of absolutely star players. what would you do differently? what would you do differently? what gareth southgate getting wrong? sam >> well, personally i point i'd point out in no uncertain circumstances , you know, what's circumstances, you know, what's going what's going wrong. i mean , you know, i would sit the players down and say, you know what? what what are you playing
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at? you know, what are you doing 7 at? you know, what are you doing ? why are you underperforming? why are you underperforming ? why why are you underperforming? why aren't you eating the top of your level that you hit with england sides in the past and with your club side ? and i think with your club side? and i think that, you really need to nail them down. it's time. it's time to not be too nice. it's time to show your your aggression as a manager. it's time to really nail the players down, to give them a, you know, if you like a kick, a kick up the backside and say, this is an underperformance, you need to get where you should be and you need to get the right now, and you need to give the ourselves a chance to go forward and win this tournament. chance to go forward and win this tournament . and we need to this tournament. and we need to keep the hope up for the english fans. he's going to face a huge amount of criticism. both the players and the manager, after this performance. now use that criticism as a basis of getting a positive attitude and going out and proving everybody wrong in the next game .
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in the next game. >> i mean, i appreciate what you're saying about the players, and certainly when you do sort of mark them out of ten, you know, nobody's at the high end of that scale, but at the same time, it's about the manager, isn't it? it's about where he's playing players, you know, players are being played out of position . the players themselves position. the players themselves don't seem to be gelling as a team . how do you sort that, sam? team. how do you sort that, sam? because it is difficult isn't it? bringing a group of players together after a pretty long and gruelling season with the premier league, to then get them all playing together and having that chemistry, how do you do it? because it seems to me that southgate isn't really inspiring them to be their best. >> well, there's many factors. there's many factors. obviously fatigue is a big factor. mental fatigue is a big factor. mental fatigue is a big factor. mental fatigue is as well as physical fatigue. so, so it comes down. it's not it's not really about the training. it's not. it's about the tactics and about getting the players ready physically and mentally because they've had such a long season.
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there's not really that need to train them that much. it's all really about the system and about how they should play and how they should apply themselves in the game and give them enough rest . obviously, dieticians, rest. obviously, dieticians, nutritionists , recovery. i mean, nutritionists, recovery. i mean, that's all in place for england . that's all in place for england. there is no better place to be than finding out what your recovery time should be, what you should eat, what you should drink, when you should rest, when you should have a massage, when you should have a massage, when you should go in the in the ice bath. you know it's all there. when you should have your psychologist. if you want to talk to him, it's all there for england. it'sjust talk to him, it's all there for england. it's just not gelling at the moment, and the individuals need to take stock of their own game and really start performing. harry kane needs to get all the team together without gareth and say, come on lads, what are we doing? >> yeah, why? without gareth? why would you say without gareth? >> sam it needs to be. >> sam it needs to be. >> it needs to be. it needs to be done privately between them and say, what do you want to do?
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what do you want to do? do you really want to do? because gareth's doing, doing all the tactics and picking the side of what he needs to say. look, come on, let's get it together . what, on, let's get it together. what, what what are we playing at? for some of them, it's the lask linzer. probably for harry. it's his last chance to win one. yeah i mean, he hasn't won anything in in his career, so to try and win the euros is bigger for him than anybody else . than anybody else. >> yes, but at the same time, are the tactics right? i mean, lots of people are saying they're playing far too defensively. how would how would you do it, sam? what what needs to be done. because there's no flair. there's no attacking forward play really. it's all passing backwards, being safe there, doing high balls , but there, doing high balls, but they're not winning them in the air. >> absolutely . i think that, >> absolutely. i think that, what what, what we really face today and england can look at the tactics and say they were very poor in in possession of the ball. it really wasn't about that. it was really getting up and pressing denmark in their own half. if they'd had gone and pressed denmark from the very start and put them under
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pressure in the reverse, denmark showed how poor we were today because they did that and we didn't do that. and because we didn't do that. and because we didn't do that. and because we didn't do that, that's why denmark came out. the better team today looked the better team today looked the better team , had more shots at goal and team, had more shots at goal and look more likely to win this game than we did. so it's not all about what you're doing possession. it's about what you do out of possession. and i can listen to alan shearer all day shouting why don't we press? why are we not pressing? why are we not running in behind? why are we not passing the ball forward? exactly right. we all saw it today , but gareth will today, but gareth will definitely, hopefully see that when he looks and reviews the game shows the players and say this has to change. >> so i'm looking forward to tavernier then. i mean, would you start the same team ? who you start the same team? who would you start? anyone different? would you have harry kane start for us? >> we're nearly through and i think that, i think that, you look at, you look at slovenia and say, what are the weak
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points? and we focus on exploiting the weak points in the reverse of that , we say we the reverse of that, we say we are going to shut slovenia down. we're not going to let the goalkeeper pass it out to his own players in his own 18 yard box. when they do, we're going to press them and we're going to press them all over the pitch in their own half, and we're going to force them into mistakes to give us the opportunity to capitalise on that and go and try and create more and score goals . we haven't done that yet. goals. we haven't done that yet. we didn't do it today and we couldn't break down denmark because we didn't do it . so when because we didn't do it. so when we had to break them down with 11 behind the ball in their own half, we simply couldn't do it. today so it's not it's not a hugeifs today so it's not it's not a huge it's not a huge task in terms of knowing no ing what we should be doing and what we shouldn't. it's pretty simple in football terms. >> all right. sam allardyce , >> all right. sam allardyce, thank you very much indeed for your full time analysis. it's much appreciated . much appreciated. >> i'm speaking a lot more positive if you have me on after
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slovakia because i'm very, very, very, very well disappointed today to say the least. >> all right. let's hope for a more upbeat conversation for the next match. thank you very much indeed, big sam . thank you. indeed, big sam. thank you. well, coming up next, we're going to be discussing this extra ordinary story involving people who are advising rishi sunak , having allegedly placed sunak, having allegedly placed bets on the date of the election just hours in advance. it's a massive story . this, and just hours in advance. it's a massive story. this, and indeed it sort of speaks to a degree of panic and chaos at the heart of tories election don't go anywhere
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welcome back to vote 2024 with me. camilla tominey. let's get into the politics now. having done that football analysis and talk about this extraordinary story . so the tories campaigning story. so the tories campaigning director has taken a leave of absence over this election betting scandal. tory sources earlier confirmed that tony lee is taking a break after it
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emerged that he is being investigated over alleged bet on the date of the general election. it came after it emerged that his wife, laura saunders, was facing an inquiry by the gambling commission. here's what levelling up secretary michael gove had to say earlier today is the case that obviously any decision by anyone to use inside information to bet on the election date, thatis to bet on the election date, that is wrong . that is wrong. >> deeply regrettable. but i think the individuals concerned are now being investigated and until that process is concluded, i think it's difficult for me to say more. >> meanwhile , labour leader sir >> meanwhile, labour leader sir keir starmer has called for the candidates suspension . candidates suspension. >> this candidate should be suspended and it's very telling that rishi sunak has not already done that . if it was one of my done that. if it was one of my candidates, they'd be gone and their feet would not have touched the floor. >> so analysis has shown that a flood of bets were placed on the july election date, the day before it was announced by rishi sunak. bookmakers have produced data which has showed that
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almost all the wagers on a july poll totalling thousands of pounds, were made in a few hours on may, the 21st, at just after 515 the next day, mr sunak announced in the rain you'll remember the surprise summer election, having previously been widely expected to call a contest in the autumn. well, joining me now to discuss this is former labour mp stephen pound and the times's chief political correspondent, aubrey allegretti. shapps aubrey, this is extraordinary, isn't it ? i is extraordinary, isn't it? i mean, we appreciate that nothing's been proved. these are all allegations. but just the look of it during what has been, let's be honest, a fairly difficult election campaign for the tories . it's extraordinary. the tories. it's extraordinary. we've got iain duncan smith, former tory leader, talking about the fact that this is venal.i about the fact that this is venal . i mean it's dreadful venal. i mean it's dreadful isn't it? >> it's gone down very, very poorly. and like you say, it's really just a sort of terrible cherry on the top of a very otherwise difficult cake . you otherwise difficult cake. you know, in terms of this election
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campaign, the conservatives have really found themselves on the back foot time and time again. the mood in cchq this afternoon has just been absolutely toxic. and as if it couldn't get any worse. yeah. >> what are you hearing from cchq because presumably they've all got tin hats on at the moment. >> i mean, most people do acknowledge and realise just how bad things are , but i think the bad things are, but i think the place was utterly silent after about 2 or 3:00 today, half people sort of left , and i about 2 or 3:00 today, half people sort of left, and i think most people just feel as though there's a sort of stench of death that's gripped the campaign. now, obviously , this campaign. now, obviously, this is an incident which nobody's suggesting rishi sunak , you suggesting rishi sunak, you know, had any knowledge of. so it doesn't necessarily cast any aspersions on him. but again, it sort of drags this whiff of sleaze and scandal back over the conservative party which they've worked so hard to shake off again. no, there's no sort of alleged criminality here. i think the problem is really just the optics and people thinking that people were treating this as too much of a game. i mean, stephen, should rishi sunak
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address all this. >> well i think he has anything from him. >> yeah. he's got, he's got no choice. i thought keir was you know, you know being the hard man here, i'm not entirely sure how you can suspend a candidate. but in all ways this is like the end of the roman empire, the last days of rome. you know, this is what's annoying about this. and what really gets my goatis this. and what really gets my goat is that this is so petty. this is somebody putting £50 or £500 on that, you know, and it's so flippin obvious if all these bets are going to suddenly flood on at one moment, you know, do you honestly think that paddy power wouldn't have actually raised a red flag on this one? but i think the point, aubrey makes a very good point. this is the it's like the masque of the red death in the edgar allan poe story, when you know you've got, everybody is actually suddenly realising that they're doomed and it becomes toxic, it becomes dangerous. and also it then feeds on itself and i think that's worse and worse. i mean, i think quite clearly rishi has got to say something i don't, you know, i don't want to hit a man when he's down, but he's had a pretty flippin awful campaign so far. >> i mean, it's very, very difficult for those out on the doorstep. aubrey other mps who or prospective mps who have had
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nothing to do with this, who are probably frustrated with the way that conservative party hq has been running this campaign. we hear now that money is being withdrawn from some of the marginal seats just to fight the safe seats. just explain the thinking behind that. >> so effectively , the strategy, >> so effectively, the strategy, if you like, about a year ago from cchq, was that there would be 80 core defence targets where they would be primarily putting money and resources into trying to hold seats and 20 targets that they were attacking, i.e. ones they wanted to flip and add to their significant majority. already there has been some delayed thinking, if you like, about re—adopting a different strategy in the light of the completely unshifting polls, some tory insiders have been looking at this for some time and saying, what are you doing? it's a complete waste of time to be safe. for example, trying to take 20 seats when that money could be used, trying to shore up support in an additional 20 seats as well. and so cchq has
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moved belatedly into a damage limitation strategy. that's the situation we find ourselves in now. i think the issue is they are sort of reacting too slowly, even to the level of damage that they need to. so instead of looking at seats where they might have a majority of, say, 5000, they're now having to revert back to seats with a majority of 10,000, 15,000 even reports of mps in seats with 20,000 majorities being concerned. so i think this is all coming too little, too late. but they have now realised the writings on the wall on these things. >> yeah. what do you think is the mrp polls are kind of forecasting tory geddon . we even forecasting tory geddon. we even have the poll yesterday that the telegraph had with savanta , telegraph had with savanta, which suggested that rishi sunak could lose his seat and he's got an over 20,000 strong majority in richmond , do you believe this in richmond, do you believe this polling? do you think these polls are going to narrow? >> i think well, they always do. they always do. as you approach the election day, i think the fact that labour actually won the mayoral seat up there in nonh the mayoral seat up there in north yorkshire is interesting andifs north yorkshire is interesting and it's indicative perhaps, but look, in some, in some ways what
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you wonder what on earth are the tories actually up to at the present time? because there's no direction. you're doing brilliant analysis with, you know, allardyce earlier on about the lack of direction in the england midfield. >> where are the tactics here. >> where are the tactics here. >> well exactly. >> well exactly. >> you can't just keep lumping the ball up the field and hoping that somebody is going to get their head on the end of it. look, it's embarrassing. and i think what's really interesting about this latest poll is the fact you're talking about 6 or 7 reform mps. and now, i mean, nigel, actually, we can't mention the constituencies don't know otherwise. >> we have to read out . >> we have to read out. >> we have to read out. >> i know you've just kicked me under the table. >> no, but generally reform i mean, to be fair, there's some mixed polling on this as well, isn't there? we had matt goodwin yesterday, came out with this extraordinary poll, which seemed to suggest that reform was well ahead of the tories. i think it was 24 versus 15, and that looked like an outlier. but reform have got some momentum right now. >> well, i mean, imagine the scenario after the on the first day when parliament reassembles, you've got a battered, bruised , you've got a battered, bruised, bleeding rump of tories staggering into the opposition
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benches and in strolls nigel farage with a vision, with energy , you know, with actually energy, you know, with actually an image of the future. do you honestly think that they're not going to coalesce around him? i, i always thought that the tories, you know, they are shape shifters. they will always manage to adapt. and they're the most successful political party in europe. you know, they go to the centre, to the right, to the centre. right. but is this really the end of the pier show for them? will they really have to accept the fact that they simply no longer have a brand that appeals to the british people, particularly when a charismatic figure like nigel farage is there saying, follow me, i'm your new leader. >> i mean, aubrey, it depends who's left, doesn't it? i mean, tom tugendhat is about to be fair. i think kemi badenoch is left, even in the most sort of catastrophic polling scenario , catastrophic polling scenario, isn't it the case, though, that starmer hasn't had a brilliant campaign? it's just that the conservatives have had a much, much, much worse one. >> i mean, is that fair? >> i mean, is that fair? >> there's a sort of running joke that keir starmer has a genie that he keeps asking for wishes, and the genie just
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collapse, granting them over and over and over again in that ming vase. rishi sunak sort of luck has just seemed to have run out, and obviously there have been some complete false missteps . i some complete false missteps. i think there's a complete mismatch between the number 10 team around rishi sunak, who've beenin team around rishi sunak, who've been in charge of his brand and the government's strategy, and the government's strategy, and the team in cchq. the national campaign strategy. they just do not seem to have been on the same page ever since this election was called. they obviously had a very successful time launching the manifesto. they got a lot of policies that they wanted to talk about out in they wanted to talk about out in the weeks before. so a lot of the weeks before. so a lot of the air time was being spent discussing some of the conservative policies. national service, for example, did take up a lot of time. people got really interested in it. but basically what we've seen is the country has stopped listening. yes. and it doesn't matter what you're saying, it yes. and it doesn't matter what you're saying , it doesn't matter you're saying, it doesn't matter who you're attacking or criticising. most voters have just switched off. >> all right. stephen pound, aubrey allegretti , thank you aubrey allegretti, thank you very much for joining aubrey allegretti, thank you very much forjoining me aubrey allegretti, thank you very much for joining me this evening. well, coming up next, we're going to be asking the politicians what they think.
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it's the another debate tonight which we'll be covering across the evening on gb news. but we're going to be speaking to kevin hollinrake and jonathan ashworth. stay tuned
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judith raanan . welcome back to judith raanan. welcome back to vote 2024. the people decide with me. camilla tominey. another night, another tv debate . and this time it's in york. and olivia utley are gb news political correspondent. is there olivia ? there olivia? >> hello. yes, i'm here, and it is all hotting up in the bbc question time spin room tonight. we've all stopped watching the football. it's over and everyone's focusing on the job at hand. we're expecting to hear from all four of the leaders of the main parties. one by one. they're not all going to be in a room at the same time. it's going to be a one. each of them facing questions from a bbc audience. both major parties are
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looking pretty nervous this evening. this is likely to be the biggest grilling that either of them get from the actual voters , who will they will be voters, who will they will be facing in the polls on july the 4th. i'm here now with kevin hollinrake , the conservative hollinrake, the conservative candidate, and kevin, we've heard quite a lot from rishi sunak , that he, that he isn't sunak, that he, that he isn't ready to suspend. i mean, these candidates who've bet on the general election, he isn't going to suspend them. it seems he's going to be asked about that tonight. what's the answer to why he hasn't? >> well, an investigation is taking place by the gambling commission, quite rightly . these commission, quite rightly. these are serious allegations. if they are serious allegations. if they are true, it's of course, appalling and wrong. but any investigation should take place due process should be followed and that will know the results of that investigation . then and of that investigation. then and then it can take action accordingly. >> the conservatives have said time and time again that the labour party would add two cage to their average family's tax bill. i mean, that figure has been proven to be pretty dubious
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. it's very, very crudely calculated. can we expect to hear that bandied around again tonight? and is that really responsible ? jul. responsible? jul. >> well, it's not it's simply calculated . there's £39 billion calculated. there's £39 billion of unfunded spending pledges and there's 20 million households, roughly, that working households in the country, one divided by others, £2,000. now, they might choose to levy those taxes in a completely different way. but we're so we're there's an assumption there. but nevertheless the bill is right. the total is right. you can see it on on my twitter feed if people want to see how it's made up. so the those things are true and it means you've got a clear choice. you are definitely going to pay more tax under a labour government, or you can pay less tax under conservative government. we have committed to lowering people's taxes. we've already started doing that. people on average , earnings in people on average, earnings in this country now pay less tax as a proportion of their income than they've ever done at any time over the last 50 years. that's the kind of party we are. that's the kind of party we are. that's the kind of party we are. that's the choice. people have lower taxes and lower migration than the conservative government or higher taxes and higher migration under keir starmer.
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>> but i mean, the taxes wouldn't be levied in that way at all. keir starmer has said over and over again that the three main taxes for working people won't rise . and also the people won't rise. and also the labour party has been throwing this claim at the conservatives that mortgages would rise by £4,800 under a conservative government. would you say that claim is, is, as accurate as yours? >> it's complete nonsense. i, i've read how they've made that figure up. it's complete nonsense. what we've made a commitment to people is over time, when we can afford it is to completely abolish national insurance because we want to cut taxes. we've already done that, and we've halved national insurance with our latest pledge, which means the average person earns would pay £1,350 less tax. that's our commitment. that what labour is doing is saying, you're doing that all at once. we're not doing all that all at once or gradually over time. that's our aspiration. so it's completely a completely false figure. so i think it's important we do look at the right figures. but those figures are clear that labour would increase taxes . you say they
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increase taxes. you say they want to increase vat or income tax. there are lots of other taxes. they may rise. they may increase council tax . of course increase council tax. of course they may put council tax up, they may put council tax up, they may put council tax up, they may have put vat on different things. all those things they may do fuel duty of course, which is really important to lots of people around this country. important to lots of people around this country . we've around this country. we've frozen fuel duty for the last 14 years. so all these things are at their disposal. i don't mean meet many people on the doorstep who seriously would argue with the fact that labour will increase taxes in office when their spending plans are really revealed, and wes streeting said it this weekend. the what's in the manifesto is not the sum total of their spending pledges, but what they want to know. in my constituency, when i go there is where's the money coming from? >> but i mean , you say that the >> but i mean, you say that the conservatives are planning to cut national insurance down to nothing. jeremy hunt has now cut national insurance in two consecutive statements, and it has done absolutely nothing to help the conservatives in the polls. in fact, the latest polls out two days ago showed the
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complete decimation of the conservative party. for you, what would a good night look like for the conservatives on july the 4th? how many seats do you realistically think the party is going to win a good night as we win, that's what we're aiming for. >> victory is always possible if you refuse to give in, give up fighting. so that's what we've got to do. we've got to keep fighting on the doorstep. i've got to say, i don't see any appetite for keir starmer on the doorstep. even the labour supporters don't seem very keen on him. but where we're losing ground and we need to make the argument, is people who think might choose to vote reform. that's where people, people are sometimes tempted by. so and we've got to say to those people , if you vote reform, you're much more likely to get keir starmer reform cannot form a government. they can't even form an effective, effective opposition. they'd have a couple of seats at the most. but you will see you'll see a landslide for labour and that will be so damaging for this country. the next five years would be so damaging for this country under labour government. higher taxes, higher migration. that is not
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what people who are thinking of voting conservative want and not what people are thinking of voting reform want. i mean, you say you're still planning to win the general election. >> if i were a betting woman like one of your candidates, i would get very, very good odds on the conservatives winning the general election. i think it's1 general election. i think it's 1 in 66 or something at the moment . you have a majority of 25,000. in normal times, that would be a very, very safe seat indeed. how confident are you feeling? >> well, not complacent. we're working very hard in our seat, there's no doubt about it. but there's no doubt about it. but the feedback on the on the ground is good. there are some people that are undecided. of course, some people are annoyed at us with some things that have gone on, and we should apologise for the mistakes we have made. but most people recognise what we have done, whether it be improving, reading standards in our schools, the best readers now in the western world, our young children whether it's cutting crime, 50% reduction in violent crime on our streets, 100,000 more doctors and nurses in the nhs controlled inflation
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11% now to 2. help people through the covid crisis , the through the covid crisis, the cost of living crisis and now got the economy growing again . got the economy growing again. people do recognise there have been some successes and those successes will continue under conservative government. with all be completely obliterated under a labour government . under a labour government. >> still talking about a conservative government. well, thank you very much, kevin hollinrake, very good to hear from you and i look forward to catching up later after the debate. thank you. well that was kevin hollinrake still churning out those party lines . kevin hollinrake still churning out those party lines. he does sound pretty confident about winning his own seat, as you would hope with a majority of 25,000. but the very fact that he seems to be campaigning pretty hard suggests just shows how badly the conservatives are doing . it is how badly the conservatives are doing. it is very, very how badly the conservatives are doing . it is very, very tough, doing. it is very, very tough, for conservative candidates to be out here tonight defending the party, defending the leader of that party. it's going to be a tough evening for the tories. i am now here already with john
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jonathan ashworth, the labour shadow cabinet member, obviously this is a much easier campaign for the labour party , but it is for the labour party, but it is looking now. i mean, this this talk of a super majority. how are you feeling about that? because i suspect that there are going to be labour voters in comfortable labour seats who neednt comfortable labour seats who needn't bother voting. why should they ? should they? >> well, let's just settle down. calm down a little bit. the poll that matters is election day . i that matters is election day. i don't believe any of these wild opinion polls and i would say to your viewers on gb news tonight that if you want change after 14 years of failure and decline under the conservatives, if you want to bring an end to this chaos, you've got to go out and vote for it on the 4th of july. that's the only poll that matters. that's what we are focused on. that's why we're working very hard to win the trust of the british people. there's lots of people still to make up their mind. and tonight keir is going to be talking
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about his plans for the economy, plans to create good, well—paid jobs, his plans to fix the nhs, his plans to bring order to the borders. but we're focused on election day. not all these opinion polls. >> you heard what kevin hollinrake said just there about labour's plan for tax rises. i mean, isn't he right? there are so many expensive commitments there. and yes, keir starmer said that he won't be raising any of the three main taxes on working people. but the truth is, some taxes are going to have to raise rise under labour, aren't they? >> i mean, kevin hollinrake has got a brass neck. the tory party have put forward a manifesto which is a long, desperate wish list of billions of pounds worth of unfunded commitments. when the money is not there. in fact, jeremy hunt, in his own constituency a few days ago, admitted that the welfare savings have already been spent. the tory manifesto can only be funded by going on a borrowing bonanza , just like liz truss bonanza, just like liz truss putting up mortgages by around £4,800, so i wouldn't take any nofice £4,800, so i wouldn't take any notice of the nonsense kevin hollinrake is coming outwith. i'd be more interested to know whether he's been down the bookies to put a bet on an
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election and who these tories are. who knew what was going on? i made a joke about it, but it's actually really serious. you know, this is insider trading. it's an absolute scandal. and in the same way that the tories, you know, sold ppe to their mates, partied in lockdown, it's one rule for them and another for the rest of us. >> so can you absolutely promise that all of the labour candidates are squeaky clean and nothing's going to come out about them? in the two and a half weeks before this general election? >> well, look, i mean, you know, the issue here is if you knew the issue here is if you knew the election date because you were one of rishi sunaks cabinet ministers or one of his members of staff, if you knew about the election date and then you went and put a bet on at the bookies or online, that's the scandal. it's not guessing if you knew that's insider trading. it's really, really serious. rishi sunak should take the suspend the candidates who have been caught already , and he should caught already, and he should come clean and tell us who knew and whether any of his politicians, any of his ministers, any of his senior aides have also put bets on in
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the knowledge of when the date was going to be. >> just one final question about tax. it very much sounds, and keir starmer is evading the question , but it does very much question, but it does very much sound as though at least one of fuel tax or capital gains tax or inheritance tax is going to rise. which of those would you most like to see rise? >> it doesn't sound like that at all because we've been very clear. no increase in income tax, vat, national insurance or corporations act. >> what about inheritance tax, capital gains tax, council tax? >> there is nothing in our manifesto that needs increases in taxation . we've been clear on in taxation. we've been clear on that. all of our sums add up. it's the tories who've made billions of pounds worth of commitments from commitments they cannot fund , from savings they cannot fund, from savings they cannot fund, from savings they cannot fund, from savings they cannot find. the money is not there for tory commitments . not there for tory commitments. >> so you're ruling out tax rises in the next. >> we have been clear on where we stand on tax. no increase in. yeah income tax. national insurance, vat and corporation tax. nothing in our manifesto requires additional tax rises. >> so no no tax rise in the next parliament. >> nothing in our manifesto requires additional tax. >> no quite answering my question, but nearly there. >> thank you very much.
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>> thank you very much. >> jonathan ashworth. >> jonathan ashworth. >> when you asked him about well, i was asking him about what's going on with his candidates, which i think is very interesting. >> if you get him back on later, ask him about this, because they put up tax 25 times, didn't they ? >> 7- >> the 7— >> the tories 7_ >> the tories so ? >> the tories so ask 7 >> the tories so ask kevin about it. >> i will very much be asking the conservatives about their plans for tax too. thank you very much. jonathan ashworth very much. jonathan ashworth very good to see you so jonathan ashworth they're sounding a little bit more confident, but still, we haven't got a clear answer on what is going to happen with taxes under a labour government. we know there's not going to be a rise in income tax, vat or national insurance. i'm bored of saying it, but there are a lot of other taxes too, and it sounds jonathan ashworth wasn't saying it there, but if you read between the lines , they will not rule out lines, they will not rule out rises in any of those taxes. let's see if we get any more clarity on that issue in that debate starting at 8:00 this evening. >> olivia, great job, and i know you'll be reporting on the debate throughout the night on gb news. thank you very much indeed. well, coming up next, you won't want to miss this because i'm going to be speaking
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to a just stop oil protester after protesters broke into stansted airport . you can see stansted airport. you can see that now and sprayed private jets with orange paint. i'm going to be asking a campaigner for the group what on earth they think they're playing at. genuinely stay
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welcome back to vote 2024 with me. camilla tominey. well, we've had tomato soup thrown over van gogh's sunflowers painting at the national gallery. we've had major sporting events, including wimbledon, the second ashes test, and indeed the world snooker championships turned orange at sheffield. we've had a damaging of the case around the magna carta at the british library . stonehenge sprayed with library. stonehenge sprayed with orange powder and now a break in at stansted airport and orange paint sprayed on what protesters
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thought was taylor swift's jet wasn't actually her jet at all. it was somebody else's. let's discuss this with just stop oil adrian johnson. adrian, can i begin by asking what on earth you're playing at, camilla, thank you so much for having me on your program , camilla, let us on your program, camilla, let us just remind ourselves, please. what's going on? okay. we have 1 in 7 people in the united states under a heat dome right now. we've literally had 12 months of unbroken heating that smashed through the safety guardrail of 1.5 degrees of heating. we've got thousands of pilgrims making their the hajj pilgrim got thousands of pilgrims making theirthe hajj pilgrim and dying their the hajj pilgrim and dying from heat . we've got people from heat. we've got people going for walks in greece and not coming back . these are not not coming back. these are not ordinary times. we can justify criminal damage that that justifies a response. >> and so we're calling upon why doesit >> and so we're calling upon why does it justify criminal damage? why does it justify you breaking into an airport, which is a massive security breach ? massive security breach? >> okay, i would put it to you,
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camilla, and i'd put it to your listeners and your viewers that the massive security breaches from our own government pursuing policies that are leading to mass death and suffering. >> no, the security breach was the two protesters who broke into stansted airport, literally with pliers. >> so i don't understand why you think that this protest justifies criminal behaviour , justifies criminal behaviour, because this is what we need to do to take action against our government. >> no you don't. i'm calling on. >> no you don't. i'm calling on. >> you're losing the argument because what's happening is no one's talking about the cause anymore. people are just talking about how annoying just stop oil are and how you've crossed the rubicon from peaceful and acceptable protest to criminal damage. so no one's talking about the climate. they're absolutely fed up with you. so you're getting the publicity, but no one's talking about what you really want them to talk about, which is the climate emergency . they're just thinking emergency. they're just thinking to themselves, why don't just
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stop oil just stop, well, camilla, with respect, people have been talking about the climate over the last 24 hours because of the action that we've taken. and also you you made a really interesting point there about crossing a rubicon. and i put it to you that the line that we are not going to cross and we will never cross, this is that line of taking violent action. we believe, and we fully support non—violent action. now that does include criminal action, but that falls under the banner of civil disobedience and civil disobedience is actually recognised by international law as being an important and necessary part of a healthy and functioning democracy. that's why we take this form of action. >> okay, but what has stonehenge , for instance, and the people that work there done to deserve this? i mean, one imagines that the type of people that gather at stonehenge for the summer
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solstice are the types of people who probably are quite proud of the amount of recycling they do. so what on earth are you doing attacking stonehenge ? rishi attacking stonehenge? rishi sunak said it was absolutely disgraceful . keir starmer disgraceful. keir starmer agreed. the vast majority of people in this country look at that action and think it's utterly pathetic and self—defeating . self—defeating. >> but camilla, you know, when we look at stonehenge, we see a beautiful monument and it it's a celebration of 5000 years of human achievement and 5000 years of civilisation that has flourished because we have had, up until this point a stable climate. and we've been able to predict and rely on it to give us the food that we need to eat. and camilla, that 5000 years is about to come to, it's about to be obliterated unless we take action. >> and so we're calling on our reason why you don't take your protests to the chinese embassy , protests to the chinese embassy, who are continuing to build power stations and are
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responsible for a vast majority of the world's carbon emissions, certainly dwarfing those produced by the uk. >> that's a really good point and a really good question . and a really good question. >> the thing you protest there next, i'm not sure what our plans are next, to be perfectly honest , but plans are next, to be perfectly honest, but it's a it's a good point. but china, to be clear, there , emissions per person are there, emissions per person are exactly the same as the emissions per person in the united kingdom. and that's for a nafion united kingdom. and that's for a nation that makes most of the stuff that we buy and import. all right, adrian johnson, i think we're going to have to disagree agreeably, but thank you very much indeed for joining me this evening. >> we've run out of time. okay. thank you. tom harwood briefly, what have you got coming up on state of the nation? >> well, we're going to be joined by the one and only jacob rees—mogg . and we're going to rees—mogg. and we're going to talk about he's he is he is, he's been much missed from this time. of course he has. we're going to be talking about this extraordinary supreme court decision to stop extra oil and gas drilling, unless there's been taking into account whatever happens with that oil
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and gas far, far, far down the line. the industry didn't expect it. it's been used by activists to try and stop extra drilling. we're going to be diving deep into that. also, the labour party wants to end the gender pay gap. party wants to end the gender pay gap. we've got some data to suggest. perhaps the gender pay gapisnt suggest. perhaps the gender pay gap isn't all that it looks like. and of course, also we'll be talking about a new duty that the labour party wants to place on councils. tune in to see what it is. >> oh, very good indeed, tom harwood and we look forward to heanng harwood and we look forward to hearing from jacob rees—mogg again. we've been missing him on this show. i'll be back on sunday. but first, here's the weather. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office on gb news. most places will have a fine start tomorrow. plenty of sunshine, but a change on the way in the west as things start to cloud over with outbreaks of rain courtesy of a couple of weather systems and a couple of areas of
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low pressure pushing away the high pressure that's brought most of us a fine day today. still very pleasant out there this evening. the main exception to that being western scotland as the rain is trickling in here, some of that rain could turn a bit heavy as we go through the night, but for most it's a dry night. clear skies will allow a little bit of mist and fog to form and turn quite chilly over parts of eastern england, down to single figures for parts of east anglia and the south—east. certainly in the countryside. so a cooler start here, but any mist and fog will soon disappear and then generally it's going to be another fine day across the midlands, east anglia and the south east. plenty of sunshine soon starting to lift the temperatures, but a cloudier day for wales and southwest england. quite a cloudy start for northern ireland, with some outbreaks of rain here and a bit of a damp start in western scotland as well. much of northern england much of eastern scotland, dry and fine, but a lot of cloud and some outbreaks of rain and drizzle over the northern isles to its further west, though, where we've got this weather front moving in, bringing more in the way of persistent rain that'll cloud
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things over across all of northern ireland by lunchtime, and patchy rain edging in here through the afternoon. further rain to come at times across western scotland. a few showers developing across wales and southwest england to still some brightness possible here, but definitely the brightest , definitely the brightest, sunniest weather over central and eastern parts and the warmest weather as well , 2324 warmest weather as well, 2324 whereas in the west it will feel a bit cooler than today because of the cloud and the rain leaving some showers around dunng leaving some showers around during saturday over parts of eastern england . another weather eastern england. another weather front coming into the north—west, but between again , north—west, but between again, many places set fair on saturday. a brighter day for wales and as we go through the weekend into the early part of next week, in particular, it is going to get quite a bit warmer. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good evening. i'm tom harwood, bringing you the state of the nation. tonight, the future of uk energy security has been thrown into doubt. as the supreme court rules, drilling sites can't be approved without taking into account the environmental impact of how that oil is used down the line. but what does this mean for your energy bills and the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, has vowed to bring an end to the gender wage gap once and for all. but is there more to the gap than meets the eye and is labour's manifesto more radical than we first thought within? it contains the duty on public bodies to reduce inequality. but how might skiving lawyers or conniving lawyers leap up upon this duty to stop pro—growth policies ? plus, as two policies? plus, as two candidates and a policeman are under investigation for election gambling, we'll be taking a closer look at these final days of rome like developments . state
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