the conservatives will suggested the conservatives will slump to their lowest number of seats ever, while labour could win a 200 seat advantage. it's also predicting significant gains for the liberal democrats, winning 67 seats. that's six times their result. in 2019, reform uk were left out of the bbc's televised election special tonight , bbc's televised election special tonight, placed instead alongside the greens in an additional show next week. reform's leader nigel farage has been speaking instead in blackpool in lancashire, where he's been criticising labour. >> labour launched their manifesto last week. there were six key objectives , not one of six key objectives, not one of them mentioned legal immigration, not one of them mentioned the population explosion in this country. not one of them mentioned the population crisis in this country. not one of them mentioned the fact that no one of them has shortage of houses

because we need to build one new home every two minutes in our country to just cope with the levels of immigration into britain . none of it mentioned. britain. none of it mentioned. >> well, in other news, today , a >> well, in other news, today, a friend of missing british teenager jay slater insists that he would have tried to get help if he was in trouble . lucy law if he was in trouble. lucy law said the 19 year old, from lancashire , rang her during lancashire, rang her during their holiday in tenerife and told her he didn't know where he was, despite jay's mobile phone being on a 1% battery, he managed to send her a photograph of his location. his mother has now joined a team of mountain rescuers and local police on tenerife. in that search, which is in its third day, two just stop oil protesters have been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage after covering two private jets in orange paint. footage posted by the group to social media shows demonstrators using fire extinguishers to cover the plane at stansted airport . it had been

at stansted airport. it had been reported that taylor swift landed at the airport this morning, however, it's now being confirmed she wasn't there at the time. and just lastly, the actor donald sutherland, whose career spanned more than seven decades, has died at the age of 88. his many credits included the dirty dozen from 1967, the war comedy mash in 1970, and ordinary people in 1980, which won the academy award for best picture . most recently, he picture. most recently, he starred in the hunger games series of films, and he was the father, of course, of kiefer sutherland , who announced his sutherland, who announced his death today on twitter. he's often cited as one of the finest actors never to have won an oscar. he did, however, win two golden globes and get an emmy. donald sutherland, who died at the age of 88. that's your news for the latest stories , do sign for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts .

gb news. common alerts. >> footage has emerged of an independent candidate backed by the muslim vote, engaging in what many will regard as disgusting misogyny. ahmed yaqoob is running in the birmingham ladywood seat. he's a solicitor as well, who was described on his company's website as a pillar of unwavering dedication and unparalleled legal acumen, and one of the uk's leading legal minds. but earlier this year he appeared on the minted minds podcast, hosted by the birmingham based entrepreneur abdul zaman. here is yaqoob saying stuff like this. >> 70% of hell is going to be women. like, look, we should we should, we should, we should, we should. >> we don't want to get . >> we don't want to get. >> we don't want to get. >> i'm just thinking like when people especially women, when they listen to conversations like this, you're gonna think we're a bunch of sexist. >> yeah, we hate that. no, look, you know, muslims, i can speak

for muslims. women are the most our most prized possession. but women for us are like roses , you women for us are like roses, you know, a rose. >> yeah. just for clarity, he was the one at the start there saying 70% of hell is going to be women. he also said stuff like, this one's got a role in society . society. >> everyone's got a role in the household. in my household , i'm household. in my household, i'm the man, i'm the king. i call the man, i'm the king. i call the shots and my missus, alhamdulillah, she listens to me. she's appreciate. she appreciates me because. >> because women want men. women want men. >> women want real men who go out. yeah. who go out there and provide. yeah, yeah. provide and protect. she could be the queen and she could look after the children. she could look after our kids. >> real man on this. >> real man on this. >> now, if any one of us were to come with his wife, who is tarted up to the nines, is natural for a male to think, well , she looks all

natural for a male to think, well, she looks all right. so keep our queens and keep them safe , okay? safe, okay? >> and there is a bit more as well. the men go on to discuss women making money by dancing on tiktok and yaqoob has some eyebrow raising legal advice for his mates. >> masculinity. i personally would give her a backhander . are would give her a backhander. are you saying if she comes up in your personal space, you will defend yourself ? defend yourself? >> yeah, not very funny that is it. the question, i think, is this should somebody who holds these views be allowed to run as a candidate at this election? let's get the thoughts of my panel. let's get the thoughts of my panel . i've got political editor panel. i've got political editor at the express, sam lister, tory peer lord bailey, and i've also got ex—labour party adviser matthew lazar as sam. welcome to you. first on this. you've got a chap there who is a solicitor, claims to be one of britain's legal, eminent legal minds, saying that legal advice to someone who's just said that he would give his missus a backhander should that person be allowed to run for office, do

you think? >> well, i think he should not be allowed to practice as a solicitor for a very big star when it comes to running for office, because he's not a member of a party. it makes it very difficult and there is i don't think there is any law that stops, cranks and crackpots from standing. and we've seen that the gaza conflict has led to a rise of these kinds of, lunatics standing for office, i mean, it makes my blood boil to see that he talks about hell being 70% full of women. and i would rather spend the rest of eternity in that hell than a second in a heaven with him. but i doubt he'd be very disappointed by that, because i don't think he likes women who have their own thoughts and also earn their own money, which gives them independence. >> yeah , well, well, look well >> yeah, well, well, look well said, sean, this guy is running on an overtly pro gaza ticket. i just wonder if that is a window into the viewpoints of certain people from certain cultures in this country . this country. >> i'll tell you, there have

been a lot of people at home now who have who have made a decision to support gaza. they will look at that and think, hold on, who am i supporting? i challenge you, one, to support the palestinian people. absolutely, absolutely. but to support people like that who are leading on that support is a question that you might need to ask yourself. but the deeper thing, unfortunately, because he isn't part of a party, he will get away with that and he will receive support because people won't see that, which is really, really unfortunate. >> yeah, he's an independent candidate. is there actually anything that could be done to stop somebody running? although isuppose stop somebody running? although i suppose the flip side of it, matthew, is now he is running and there's a bit more scrutiny on him. these views get exposed. there's a line. absolutely. >> i think that's the key thing. thank goodness that this, the footage has been released and the transcript is available . so the transcript is available. so now it is on the it is on view is in this view. it's on voters in this birmingham constituency to , to do the right thing. and to, to do the right thing. and obviously understandably, a lot of them are angry about gaza, particularly concerned to the muslim community. but if this is the candidate that's, that's asking for their trust, i hope that they realise that electing

this buffoon is worse than the buffoon is rather horrible, nasty individual . it's not going nasty individual. it's not going to do anything at all for the people of gaza. and he needs to be held to the same standards that he would do within a party. final point for me is the muslim vote. it's not a party, but it is a campaign. let's hope they disown him now, the other thing to say, though, as as apparent as his views are, we mustn't get to the situation where our legal system or some quango gets to decide who runs. democracy is messy. people have opinions that people do not like, but the bafis people do not like, but the basis of democracy is the right to offend. the basis of democracy is to be able to have the opinion you have, not the one that the state has handed down. >> yeah. and again, it's possible. go on. >> no, i'm just going to say i think the problem is the conflict in gaza is obviously one that's caused great, great upset. and i do completely understand that. but there are two sides of this that are really, really very, very upset, but i don't think that that should be giving cover to people like this. and they are using it to stand for office. they're using that desire of people who

are upset about what's happening in gaza to stand for office, and that it's giving them cover. it's giving cover to people who really have no business to be standing for office. >> one of the things that i can't help but notice about this is, you know, you hear a lot of bad things said about like, oh, what's he kind of like middle aged white man at a golf course saying when he's around the bar with his mates and yeah, all right. some of that might be quite unsavoury. but you did have some quite young people there, youngish people trying out. and he obviously felt comfortable enough and that his views were widespread enough to be able to say things like, you know, keep your keep your queen in doors and don't let them go out tarted up. i'm paraphrasing here, obviously , but, you know, here, obviously, but, you know, then saying, oh, are you saying that she got in your personal space after that individual next to him there? he said he'd give her a backhander. i do worry a bit about women's rights in the muslim community. yeah i mean, i if only it was confined to one community. >> it isn't. it is an issue because because women want men, community, domestic abuse and misogyny , then we could tackle

misogyny, then we could tackle it. but it isn't, you know , as it. but it isn't, you know, as we know, it's not all men. let's be absolutely clear about that. but there are men who are abusive to women and it is difficult to tackle. and if they feel emboldened by the people, they sat around making these comments to, it really does not help. >> it's about a culture, isn't it? if you if you come from a culture of a group of men black, white, blue, green, whatever, if that's their culture, then these things are more likely to happen because it goes unchallenged . because it goes unchallenged. but the wider thing is we are now seeing our politics, atomised. and you're getting new players in. are those new players in. are those new players being held to the same standards that everybody else? because imagine for a second, just one second, that was a conservative mp the greens, the lib dem and labour would be all over the place . but because of over the place. but because of the issue he's defending or or campaigning on and who he is, people do not feel he's that. >> we've seen that with the greens actually. yeah. >> i mean not a point, matthew, that people, certain people who have, you know, certain political views or standing on certain issues or from a certain demographic potentially get away with more absolutely .

with more absolutely. >> i think it's very important that anybody who calls themselves on the left, who calls themselves a progressive, you know, doesn't touch this guy with a bargepole. i mean, you know, in 1964, there was a tory guy down the road in the west midlands when immigration was a big issue, had the notorious slogan if you want to. i'm not going to use the word for a neighbour vote. labour. yeah, he did win. and he was treated as a panah did win. and he was treated as a pariah when he arrived at the house of commons by all sides. and if this perchance if, if in the worst case scenario, this guy gets elected, he needs to be given the cold shoulder by everybody at westminster. >> okay . we have approached >> okay. we have approached ahmed yaqoob for a statement about his comments, and we have previously invited him on the show in the past as well, but we haven't received a reply from him today. the candidates standing for election in birmingham ladywood are as follows zoe chandler, who's the green party leader of the liberal democrats . shabana liberal democrats. shabana mahmood, labour. shazna muzammil , who's a conservative, and ahmed yaqoob, who's the independent. and irene jung henry of reform uk. all right.

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ourjudicial into the eco mob, specifically our judicial system, are into the eco mob, specifically ourjudicial system, are we now at their mercy? patrick christys tonight we are only on

gb news. all right. welcome back to patrick christys tonight on gb news. now coming up. yes. the search for the missing british teenagerin search for the missing british teenager in tenerife enters its fourth day. i speak to our reporter on the ground about

suggestions that he might have been kidnapped, but first, with climate campaigners achieving a seismic victory in the supreme court. are we caving in to the eco mob? it is time for tonight's head to head . well, we tonight's head to head. well, we gave you a little flavour of something last night, and now it's actually happened. yes. climate campaigners have won their supreme court case against a local council, with the court saying that surrey county council failed to consider the full climate impact of burning oil from new wells. what this means is that it could set a precedent that puts future oil and gas projects massively in jeopardy. meanwhile, just a day after two just stop oil activists were arrested for vandalising stonehenge , two more vandalising stonehenge, two more have now been detained for spray painting a private jet parked up at stansted airport. they were aiming to target pop star taylor swift's aircraft, but quite amusingly , they got the wrong amusingly, they got the wrong plane and britain's airports may have to get used to this disruption because climate activists are threatening a summer of chaos to highlight

their cause. but look, tonight i am asking , is their cause. but look, tonight i am asking, is britain caving in to the eco mob? i want to hear from you gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews and there's a poll online at the moment to take part in that. but first, going head to head on this, our environmental campaigner stanley johnson and head of policy at net—zero watch harry wilkinson thank you very much for joining me in the studio. harry, i will start with you on this. this court case. i'm concerned. i think a lot of people are concerned that it's a way of almost circumventing democracy. you can go and find a ready judge, get them to put a verdict in your direction and the lights go off in britain. >> well, i think the very dangerous thing that's happened with this is it's set a precedent which looks at the production side. you know, we could be looking at the demand side. it's a it's a choice both as a democracy, what type of energy we use, what we want, how we want to power our country in the future . and also at an the future. and also at an individual level, we can change c02 individual level, we can change co2 demand by choosing to buy an electric car, for example , and

electric car, for example, and that would be based on people making decisions. being able to choose for themselves, you know, to be targeting one actually very small oil and gas project and saying they should consider the c02 and saying they should consider the co2 emissions is quite an arbitrary basis. even a wind and solar application, for example, would be responsible for some level of co2 emissions . so the level of co2 emissions. so the question is, do we put every single oil and gas project, you know, essentially. well, that's my concern because that's that's what i think is happening. >> we're going to get another court case in a few weeks time, which is on something which is much larger. that's about all the new oil and gas in the north sea. so this is a problem. hold on, patrick, hold on. >> i mean, you're using these emotive language. are we caving in to the supreme court? what does the supreme court actually said? it is said it's taken the view that actually the council should have taken into account the environmental impact assessment should have taken into account the indirect

impacts of the project. now, i remember years ago when i was in the european commission, i actually wrote or helped write the thing and it said very clearly the evaluation procedure or impact assessment is intended to identify , describe and to identify, describe and evaluate the direct and indirect effects of the project . this is effects of the project. this is the book i read some time ago. it's 800 pages now on environmental law in the european community. now it's nothing undemocratic about that because those in eu environmental laws were put into effect. in fact, they were put into effect in britain in 2017, the environmental impact assessment rate. so what is the what is the judge say the three judges and lord leggett said and i've studied 100 pages of the text this afternoon. good for you . what he said was, yes. he's you. what he said was, yes. he's not drawing . he's not concluding not drawing. he's not concluding about the project or not about the project. he's saying that the project. he's saying that the council was wrong to say the indirect effects, i.e. the downstream effects, did not have to be covered in the environmental impact assessment, could not a threat to democracy. >> well, could they could they

cover them and then disregard it, or do they find themselves back in court? of course they could. >> well, basically what has happenedis >> well, basically what has happened is the supreme court has ruled so the court has ruled that they have to be taken into account . so let them take it account. so let them take it into account and then indeed, they can come forward and they can say, yes, we do think there's a downstream effect. are they rightly they anything which produces green greenhouse gases. and it's an effect which not just in one country, it's all over. just in one country, it's all over . so that's what we're over. so that's what we're talking about. and we're not talking about. and we're not talking about. and we're not talking about democracy. >> i think at face value, yes, that may well be what we're talking about. but i think there's another agenda to absolutely. >> stanley is right. this is legislation that we chose to take forward from the eu. and we've kept that legislation and which survived. rees—mogg a choice to do that. the problem is that it's risking our future prosperity. we can either choose to support oil and gas projects here in the uk, supporting british jobs and making sure we can control those emissions, or we can import those oil and gas products from other countries

where we have much less control. both the emissions. where we have much less control. both the emissions . are you both the emissions. are you really and also the national security? >> so are you really proud that we have in unevaluated way said, yes, we're going to do this, that and the other, knowing that these emissions are not just affecting british people, they're affecting people worldwide. you cannot say greenhouse gas emissions are purely local issue. they're not a purely local. >> of course they're not. but these things shouldn't be just targeted to one specific project that i think is the risk here. and when we when we're looking at the wider issue, we have to consider that , you know, do we consider that, you know, do we want to just import those emissions from elsewhere? do we want to make democratic decisions about how we get our emissions down? and, you know, either we can choose to have british jobs here or we can choose to have let's look at democratic. >> this is aggressive activist lawfare. isn't it stunning. look at the people who bring these i'm sorry i cannot believe are activists aren't they patrick, if you had read as i've been, it took three hours reading the whole 100 page report. >> that is not aggressive activism . these are. we are. we activism. these are. we are. we should be so lucky that we have

a supreme court which does a serious job. and the dissenting case was also thoroughly well organised. so i say let us rejoice that we've got somebody who says we do have a serious problem . we have to deal with problem. we have to deal with this problem. but the way to deal with this problem is not to cut corners. >> isn't it bizarre, though, that you get people? i will come to you on this, harry. you get people spray painting planes. you get people breaking into an airport, which, by the way, i think is a massive concern. but there have been other situations of activist groups where it's someone slashing the painting of lord balfour, which is not an environmental thing. that was a pro—palestine thing. but the courts don't seem to give a toss about those people, do they? >> my mind is brought to the heathrow decision . you know, heathrow decision. you know, parliament spent years and years and years debating whether we would have a third runway at heathrow and after all of that, the court said no. the climate change act superseded it. there you go. and so, you know, there really is a case here. well, what's wrong with that? >> you know, the climate change act was adopted democratically adopted in 2008, the public. >> so if at this election, hypothetically, now there was a

party that stood and said, we're going to we're going to do do this specific oil and gas thing. and the public voted in overwhelming numbers for that. that party won a majority. and then it got through parliament and it got through the house of lords. some uncooperative crusty, as your son called them, could rock up at a supreme court and get a verdict in their favour, and it would be blocked. >> the supreme court , to my >> the supreme court, to my mind, takes a very serious view of his responsibility . of his responsibility. >> as if you go back to 2008, you cannot say that the 2008 climate act was an undemocratic procedure which didn't take into account. on the contrary, it has been a lodestar for governments all over the world. we have a target to aim for. now. the problem has been, of course , problem has been, of course, that we've now said, oh, well, we're just tiny. what we does do doesn't matter. the problem has, by disassociating ourselves from a bigger block, we've made it made it possible to say, well, we're not very important . but we're not very important. but when you consider where europe as a whole is, what we do is terribly bucha. >> i've just sided in favour of a load of geriatric swiss women because they're not doing enough to protect them in the heat. you know, it just seems all very

bizarre. >> patrick is right. these cases are politically motivated. and so they reflect, you know, the very well, moneyed, fashionable political campaigns where you have people who don't accept fossil fuels are absolutely . are fossil fuels are absolutely. are we talking are we talking to our prosperity? am i not right? these these judges who voted against the decision today and also at heathrow, you know, they're ignoring the fact that parliament did consider climate change. you know, that was something they considered parliament considered those issues and they debated those issues. and that's been superseded. >> the judges voted for the decision. that's why that's why we got the decision, when you talk about, well oiled and if i may say so, with greatest respect, if you if you look at as a financial supporter of the global warming institute , which global warming institute, which i think you work for, you have to say is this purely , you know, to say is this purely, you know, disinterested funding, we don't get any funding from fossil fuel companies. >> i want to make that absolutely clear. and our funding is on a tiny scale compared to these green activist groups. but you know, these projects are absolutely vital for our future prosperity. and so when you have these cases,

they are denying a future to those people who will be working in those industries. >> can i just ask, because we are going to have to wrap this up in a second. i wanted to know, is it i hope you don't mind this standing, but i do have to ask this. if. what? bofis have to ask this. if. what? boris johnson, he turned his back on the tories here. he's gone on a second holiday, though. he's going to be campaigning in the red wall. what's going on? you speak to him much as i recall, he has been writing some absolutely dynamic nick stuff in the mail. >> i mean, who coined the word starmageddon faces? now, frankly, you can do any amount of campaigning in the red wall, but if you can throw a target, if you can throw a bomb like starmageddon that he's got a new book coming out, isn't he? >> is a memoir, i believe. >> is a memoir, i believe. >> is a memoir, i believe. >> i think it's called unleashed. unleashed, as i recall. so you better wait for it. well i've got a new book coming out. >> oh, he doesn't miss a trick. i'll see where he gets it from july the 3rd. >> that's my book on how china is really solving the renewable energy problem. >> well, i better go, because that might be quite a hard sell.

>> i think i would just ask as well. >> are you going to give boris a copy of that for his birthday? >> well, we'll exchange copies. >> well, we'll exchange copies. >> all right. look, guys, thank you very, very much. have this one. you can have that one. i might need to read that one. look, chaps, thank you very much. great to have you both in the studio. let's have a little look online, shall we? because i want to know who you who you agree with jack on says, what's the issue? it's common sense that if we're going to produce oil, then we have to take into account the damage that it will do. lamy says that council should stick to their knitting and maintaining public services at a reasonable cost to residents. leave the eco warriors and their placards and focus on fixing potholes in empty bins. john says i don't understand anymore who makes the law parliament or the judges who's in charge? and that's kind of my point, to be honest with you. i'm all for people saying, look, we need to take this to court. someone has broken the law. don't misunderstand me on that. but at the same time, if there is a policy people have voted for, it's gone through parliament. at what point can activists go and try and block that? but look, your verdict is now in. well well, 94% of you agree that we are caving in to

the eco mob. 6% of you say that we aren't . so there we are. we aren't. so there we are. anyway, coming up, the tory election betting scandal is building steam, actually, and i've got some remarkable stuff coming your way because nigel farage is fight for the clacton constituency has just turned incredibly ugly. the spectator's james heale will beam in live for his unrivalled political analysis. plus, what happens next here. nana bev turner fire the very best of us. but next, the very best of us. but next, the search for 19 year old brit jay slater in tenerife goes on sunak nightmare. >> just an absolute living nightmare. it's like a dream. it's like it's not happening. it really is . really is. >> the concern now is that he may have actually been kidnapped . we speak to our reporter on the ground, cleo o'flynn, who gives us the inside track from tenerife.

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, coming up as the tory party becomes embroiled in. well, i think we can all agree it's quite a mental election betting scandal. and the fight for nigel farage's potential constituency of clacton has just got really ugly. the spectators james heale will offer his expert political analysis. but first, friends of a british teenager missing on the party island of tenerife fear he may have been kidnapped as the

fourth day of the frantic search provided no fresh leads. 19 year old jay slater, from lancashire, went missing on monday morning. he'd left a three day music festival with two men who are believed to have driven him back to their home on the other side of the island. jay was active on snapchat up to 7 am. on monday morning and called a friend in britain an hour or two later to say he was attempting to walk through rural terrain back to his hotel, which is more than a ten hour track away . on the ten hour track away. on the phone call, jay said he was thirsty, tired and had injured his leg on a cactus with his phone only on 1% battery. his friends and family, though , and friends and family, though, and this is. i think today's developments are becoming increasingly worried that he might have been kidnapped, with his mother saying that she believes he has been taken against his will. and lucy law, the friend he made that phone call to, also said the more time goes on, the more i am sure he's been taken in. at first i wasn't so sure, but now i'm convinced he's not stupid. if he left the house on his own, he would have walked to the road and then

tried to flag a car down or stop someone for help. police in tenerife continued to search for the missing teen, although they are not believed to be considering kidnap as their main focus of the investigation. well, i'm pleased to say i'm joined now by claire o'flynn, who is a journalist based for us in tenerife. claire, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. so members of the family think he might have been kidnapped. do you think there's any truth to that? >> patrick, i, i don't like speculating , especially in a speculating, especially in a case like this which involves a young person who is missing. i can understand the family's concern in after for nearly five days. you know, tomorrow , friday days. you know, tomorrow, friday morning, monday. he went missing on monday. or he was last heard from on monday. if it was my 19 year old, i would be wanting to explore every single possible avenue as well. so the fact that they are bringing up theories or speculation or concerns or worries doesn't surprise me. i think any parent would do the same. the police i was in contact with them a number of hours ago. they have still said

that they are concentrating their search in majorca, which is the small village near where patrick's phone or patrick's phone, where jay's phone last was pinging, but they have also said they're not ruling out any hypothesis. however, it's not hugely are completely uncommon that somebody who goes missing in that part of tenerife might not be found for a couple of days. these are volcanic islands. if he had gone off road to try and walk down to the coast , down to the sea, which coast, down to the sea, which would have been very much there to for him to see, it would have been quite obvious to him that the sea looked close. it is quite possible that he has fallen , that he has taken fallen, that he has taken shelter, or that he is still walking every now and then, taking shelter every now and then, and hoping that somebody will find him. so as a journalist, i'm not saying anything . as a mother, i can anything. as a mother, i can understand the worry. >> yeah . and his family as well >> yeah. and his family as well apparently are quite concerned. they don't think that the police are doing enough. is that fair,

or is that a kind of quite lazy trope , really? maybe about, you trope, really? maybe about, you know, foreign police officers? not necessarily always caring about a british lad who goes missing after a party? >> i don't think there is any , >> i don't think there is any, racist laziness on the part of the police here. i mean, i'll put it that way. if anybody has gone missing, they will put their full forces into operation. firefighters, not just from the locality, but from lots of other places. mountain rescue teams, local police , rescue teams, local police, dogs, drones and helicopters have been involved in the search for the last four days. again, |, for the last four days. again, i, i won't accuse any force of not pulling their weight when anybody goes missing. the police kind of swing into gear. you also have to remember this is an island of less than a million people. i mean, the population, the local population of tenerife would be about, i don't know, close to a million. there's 2 million in the canary islands overall. police forces are based on the population, unfortunately, not on the number

of tourists who visit us, which is in the millions. so when i say the full forces of the law of the available , members of the of the available, members of the all the security forces, they are doing everything that they can. and while it might not seem enough to all of the people who want jay to be found, there pushed to the extent of their limits, i do believe that there have been quite a few issues in relation to how some of the locals in scenery feel about british tourists, though . british tourists, though. >> recently we've seen protests, we've seen demonstrations about them. what is the mood like in tenerife when it comes to the brits especially, you know, young brits who are there to have a party which, you know, he was he was at music festival? >> sure. well, first of all, music festivals are international events. there would have been people from all over the world are reported on these protests when they happened about two months ago. patrick, and i think possibly unfairly, they were painted in some of the british press as being against british tourists. there is a sense in the canary islands that tourism in general needs to be looked at again,

because mass tourism is doing the island damage . so any kind the island damage. so any kind of resentment against tourists is against tourists in general, and no one nationality is singled out by people who grow up here, who live here, who work here, and who might have issues in looking for affordable rental accommodation here. so, you know, there is no anti—british sentiment that i have ever come across. and i'm irish and i've lived here for 20 years, and i work and live with people of all nationalities. my best friend is a brit from manchester, so, you know, i don't sense any anti—british feeling. there is a concern about tourism going too far in a sense that it has taken over parts of the island, and maybe better control is needed to keep the island as a very, very desirable destination . but very desirable destination. but nothing anti—british that i have come across. >> look, i'm just going to ask this. i'm not, i'm not trying to certainly, definitely not trying to tarnish the missing lad with any kind of accusation whatsoever about the things that you may or may not have been up

to whilst he was out there at this music festival, but i think given the situation that's happened , it is probably happened, it is probably a relevant question. you know, how prevalent are things like, you know, drugs over there in tenerife, given that people are at music festivals, in quite remote locations, etc. i mean, are they do they is there a quite prominent drug scene? is there? >> i think there's a drug scene . >> i think there's a drug scene. i mean, i would be silly to say that there isn't , i'm i'm in. that there isn't, i'm i'm in. i'm probably well beyond music festival age myself. patrick but i know what goes on, and it would be stupid to say that there isn't a drug scene, and people drink at these festivals. it's a it was a three day event again , i would not say that. it again, i would not say that. it is, out of control as far as i am aware, but like any island that attracts people for these big two, three day long festivals, of course there will be people who are there to illegally sell drugs. so yeah , illegally sell drugs. so yeah, there would have been available, i'm sure at this festival . yeah,

i'm sure at this festival. yeah, the level of visibility, i couldn't say. yeah. >> and again , i do just want to >> and again, i do just want to emphasise that i'm not trying to cast any aspersions whatsoever on jay at all. i'm just trying to get a handle on the kind of setting that he might have been in or around. if he's at a music festival on that part of the island. and look, claire, thank you very much. great to chat to you. obviously incredibly unfortunate circumstances, but hopefully we'll go back to cleo if there are any updates. that's cleo o'flynn there who's a journalist for us out there in tenerife. thank you. now coming up at 10 pm, we will cross live to the spin room after the bbc's latest election debate, where we'll be joined by tory heavyweight david davis. but next are the tories election chances going to be finished off by the worsening betting scandal enveloping the party, or actually , are they being actually, are they being stitched up a bit here? and nigel farage is fine with the constituency of clacton? well, it's just turned pretty nasty. political correspondent for the spectator, james heale will delve deeper into biggest political developments. i'm patrick christys and i'll

welcome back to patrick christys. tonight, we're going to be live in the spin room. for all the reaction to tonight's leader's debate with some big hitters from all the political parties involved. but first, the tory party is tonight at the centre of a bizarre betting scandal after it emerged that the party's director of campaigning, tony lee, and his wife, a conservative candidate, are being investigated over an alleged bet on the date of the election. it comes after one of rishi sunak bodyguards was arrested yesterday for allegedly making a similar bet, and another tory candidate, craig williams, apologised last week for betting on the date of the election. analysis by the ft shows that there was a highly unusual flurry of bets placed on the day before. sunak called that snap election what michael gove couldn't escape. questions about the scandal when he was out and about earlier is the case that obviously any decision by anyone to use inside information to bet on the

election date, that is wrong . election date, that is wrong. >> deeply regrettable, but i think the individuals concerned are now being investigated and until that process is concluded, i think it's difficult for me to say more. >> well, now keir starmer stuck the boot in. >> this candidate should be suspended. and it's very telling that rishi sunak has not already done that. if it was one of my candidates , they'd be gone and candidates, they'd be gone and their feet would not have touched the floor. there's a wider point here that you touch on, which is we've now had 14 years of chaos, of division, of politics being about self—entitlement and politics needs to be about service, about pubuc needs to be about service, about public service. it's interesting , isn't it, because with the whole diane abbott thing, you know, she wasn't just out of her feet, didn't , you know, get feet, didn't, you know, get hoisted off the floor on the way out. >> it's just almost like anyway , >> it's just almost like anyway, i'm joined now by the spectator's political correspondent, james hill. james, thank you very, very much. and look what's going on with this betting stuff . with this betting stuff. >> well, i mean, it seems to be less a case of number 10 downing

street and more a case of, you know, empire leicester square casino. i mean, unfortunately, the issue is, is that , you know, the issue is, is that, you know, this whole secret when the election was, was, closely guarded, you know, issue of confidence around 20 or 30 members of rishi sunak key aides and now it seems that at least several of them have been alleged to have placed bets on the kind of date of when the result was going to be, when the contest was going to be on the 4th of july. and we've now had, you know, protection officer, we've now had the, number 10 director of sorry, the cchq field operations, wife has now placed a bet, allegedly. and of course, the parliamentary private secretary as well. and so a number of key aides have placed bets on this. and, of course, you know, mps now are furious with this. and one of them is texting me yesterday and said, hang on a sec. they were gambling with our future and they've all placed bets on results. so there seem to be taking these very serious issues about their own colleagues future with a degree of frivolity, which many found very irritating and concerning to say the least. >> and there is an article in guido fawkes, the political website, saying gambling commission officials suspected of leaking against the tories

has previously praised starmer and work for labour. is there any chance this is just a political stitch up ? political stitch up? >> i think that i think that there's an issue about the law and actually, have they committed anything wrong? i think the police thing is a different issue because it's about issues of public officials and the policeman have a different role to, say, parliamentary aides, but i still think that, you know, people think that, you know, people think it's very bad taste, to say the least. and, you know, rishi sunak was asked this tonight and, you know, he was asked about key aides, you know, and placing these these are people not he doesn't want to throw under the bus. but he said that, you know, i was incredibly angry. angry, incredibly angry to learn the allegations. it's a really serious matter. and that language, patrick suggests to me that, you know, they aren't suggesting, you know, stitch up a witch hunt, etc. they're pretty angry about this in number 10 as well. and so i think that would say a lot about the kind of future of these people involved. >> i wonder if we might hear the phrase unwise but not illegal again at some point. but, you know, there we go, right now there is a row brewing in clacton because reform uk leader nigel farage accused labour's candidate in the essex seat of racism . okay, so osuna paul

racism. okay, so osuna paul claimed earlier today that he's standing for every black and brown person in the uk. all right. but then nigel said politicians should be standing for everyone regardless of their colour or creed. imagine if i said i'm standing for every white person in the country. joven's message is divisive and racist in itself, getting a bit spicy and clacton isn't it? >> it really is. and this was an interview in which the labour candidate also was asked about previous columnists comments in which he said that, you know, he would bathe in the tears of white people and he brushed that off, suggesting that was a previous, different life and he would be a public representative rather than a private individual. but i do think there will be certain people pushing this, you know, in their campaign and obviously he's he's certainly leant into it, the key thing, of course, patrick, is that, you know, labour aren't a real factor in this clacton race. it's tory versus reform. so it shouldn't be too much of an issue. but i'm sure it's going to attract a fair number of labour people who want to get involved in all of this, and it's a race that's going to attack national attention, because nigel always does.

>> is this not fair enough to say, though, from nigel, if nigel stood up and said, i am campaigning for every single white person in britain, he would be called a racist, wouldn't he? >> i suspect he would, yes. and, i think that nigel's comments on this one are fairly reserved, given the kind of, you know , given the kind of, you know, some people would feel the need to delay into this. look, i was really impressed last week when, he he stood up at his event and he he stood up at his event and he said, you know, i've done more to take on the far right than than any other candidate and any other person in britain. and clearly, i think, you know, other people disagree with that. and i think that, you know, these comments tonight, they come out, suggest that others are leaning into war, which, you know, nigel himself has issued. so i think fair play on him for this one, all right. well, look, james, thank you very, very much. it's been tremendous to have you on the show. as ever. you're on it almost as much as i am these days, which is no bad thing. so thank you. that is james hill there of the spectator. what do you make of that? do you think that it is one rule for one person with a certain political ideology and one rule for another there? if

somebody did stand up and say, i'm standing for every single white person, in this particular seat or whatever, would that not maybe indicate that they are a racist? why would it be okay if somebody say, i'm standing for every single black and brown person? but look, the candidates for clacton in full are as follows jovan. also nepal, who is the labour party? we've got giles watling of the conservative party matthew bensalem, the liberal democrats, nigel farage, reform uk, natasha osborne, green party, craig jamieson, climate party, tony mac, independent, tasos papanastasiou of the heritage party and andrew pemberton of ukip. i should also point out actually, that the conservative party candidate that giles watling is apparently quite upset at what he is saying, are leaflets of his being taken down and desecrated and reform leaflets being put up. so there is quite a lot going on in clacton at the moment. i am also enjoying watching people lose their minds on the left they're saying no, dear god, nigel farage cannot be in parliament.

and then you think, well, you know, it is called democracy, isn't it? really? but i've got a heck of a lot coming up with labour and the tories setting out their housing plans today. isn't it remarkable that neither of them thought that they would mention mass immigration? well, nigel farage is clear what he blames for our housing issues at 85% of that directly down to immigration. >> that's why people can't get houses. >> that's why people can't get houses . that's why rents have houses. that's why rents have gone up. >> so when you think about high rents, when you think about places that you frankly cannot live, when you look around and you think, well, you know what's going on when it comes to the housing crisis especially, i would imagine if you've got, you know, children or grandchildren, is it mass immigration that you blame ? is mass immigration blame? is mass immigration really responsible for the housing crisis? i'm going to whizz you through all of their different policies when it comes to housing, including a remarkable one that says we're going to protect social housing. well, that's interesting because given what we've got going on in the english channel at the moment, those people are going to need somewhere to live, aren't they? but next, i will

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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. on patrick christys tonight. >> i think we are something of an international laughing stock. i'm asking if you would confess to us tonight. even just a small amount of embarrassment to be leading the conservative party into this election campaign . into this election campaign. >> the leaders have been grilled by the public and keir starmer made a worrying migration admission. no sense to put an

arbitrary figure on it, because every single politician has put a number on it, has never met that number. oh, that bodes well. and it seems that ed davey stunts are only having a positive effect on the soppy media. >> britain desperately needs a leader who we can respect and trust. >> your media profile is mainly consisted of horseplay on tv. is this prime ministerial? >> well, i will take you live to the spin room with our political reporter olivia utley tory stalwart david davis. he's on soon, but we'll also be talking about this at 85% of that directly down to immigration. >> that's why people can't get houses. that's why rents have gone up. >> yeah. is mass immigration to blame for the housing crisis ? blame for the housing crisis? it's a british nursery school indoctrinating kids over gay pride. plus . why has a british

pride. plus. why has a british museum banned women from viewing artefacts? on my panel tonight is tory peer lord bailey. ex—labour adviser. matthew laza and political editor at the express. it's sam lister. oh and what happens . next? bev turner what happens. next? bev turner fire! get ready, britain. here we go . we go. all right, so that leaders debate has just finished. let's take a look, shall we, at some of the key moments, there was a potentially worrying glimpse into the future as sir keir starmer refused to put a number on immigration. >> migration is at record levels at the moment. under this government. they've completely lost control. we need to get that number down. we need to get

it significantly down. i'm not going to put an arbitrary figure on it, because every single politician who has put a number on it has never met that number. but we need to get it down. we need to get it down. but you're asking is that a reason not to do it? >> not to do it? >> not to do it? >> we want to get it down significantly. it needs to be balanced immigration so that it works for our economy and works for our country. >> so sir keir starmer, they're refusing to put a number on the immigration figure that he wants. but then rishi sunak was taken to task over this bizarre betting scandal that's been engulfing his party. >> well, like you, i was incredibly angry . incredibly incredibly angry. incredibly angry to learn of these allegations . it's angry to learn of these allegations. it's a angry to learn of these allegations . it's a really allegations. it's a really serious matter. it's right that they're being investigated properly by the relevant law enforcement authorities, including, as fiona said, a criminal investigation by the police. and i want to be crystal clear that if anyone has broken the rules, they should face the full force of the law. and that's what those investigations

are there to do. and i hope that they do their work as quickly and as thoroughly as possible. >> interesting to use that kind of language, isn't it, when at the moment it's allegations, things that may or may not actually be illegal as well? quite fascinating to see him using that kind of rhetoric . using that kind of rhetoric. what does that really say? but then ed davey is finally being taken to task again. this is why he's been avoiding the public, isn't it? doing the slip and sudes isn't it? doing the slip and slides going, you know, swimming in lake windermere and all of this stuff. everyone who lives in cumbria is shouting at their television screens because i know it's not lake windermere, it's just windermere. but anyway. and anyway , he's now anyway. and anyway, he's now being grilled by an actual real person instead of some sopping wet person from the media. >> i made two big mistakes dunng >> i made two big mistakes during that time . during that time. >> it wasn't an issue that cropped up much, but it did crop up at the start. when alan bates wrote to me i'd been in office about two weeks and i wrote to him and said, no, this is a matter for the post office. we don't govern it and i'm not going to meet you. he wrote back, furious. he did. and then i read his letter and said, well, i'd better meet him. and i

met him in the october, as you said, fiona and i took all his questions and i asked them to my officials and to the post office, and they gave me a categorical assurance that the points that mr bates was making were not true . were not true. >> okay, well, let's cross live now to the spin room. so this is , as everybody knows by now, the area where the various parties put people forward to try and say, in this case. man one olivia utley joins us now. olivia utley joins us now. olivia who have you got? what's going on? >> hello. i'm here with david davies, conservative party stalwart figure. david, how did you think that went? how did you think rishi sunak did? >> i think it was pretty impressive. >> i mean, at the end there was it sort of built up at the end? there was quite a tension, quite an argument over things like what? >> tax and migration. >> tax and migration. >> and he , i mean, keir starmer >> and he, i mean, keir starmer basically when he got into conflict with the audience, changed the subject. he tried to move on to other things . rishi

move on to other things. rishi went straight at it and dealt with it, and you saw it as at the very end over the whole question of european court and migration. he made it plain that we ought to bring migration under control. we're beginning to do so. not yet enough. and you know , and we were going to you know, and we were going to continue with things like, putting illegal migrants in detention centres rather than hotels . label reverse that. hotels. label reverse that. continue with the rwanda policy , continue with the rwanda policy, which 14 other countries are copying in europe , labour would copying in europe, labour would reverse that too. so i think he made a pretty strong case. >> that audience, though, didn't seem to think so. they seem really angry with him, and the polls suggest that that's something which is replicated across the country. what do you think a good night would look like for the conservatives realistically, how many seats would you like to win? >> oh, i can't tell. >> i mean, the i've i've gone through ten. this is my 11th election. >> so do you think we're in wipe—out territory. >> no no no i don't actually i mean partly because , what i'm mean partly because, what i'm seeing on the, on the doorstep is not what we're seeing in the polls. i mean, take one issue. the reform numbers . if you the reform numbers. if you believe the polls, they predict

20% reform vote in my constituency. i'm having trouble finding 1 to 3, you know, knocking on doors, talking to people and so on. >> there are some, don't get me wrong, you know, but 1 or 2 are de on my count. >> but they're not nothing like this. now. it may be in other parts of the country . you've got parts of the country. you've got some surges of this, but it's not universal. it's not true in lancashire. it's not true in parts of kent , places. i've parts of kent, places. i've talked to my colleagues. so i think the polls are likely to be wrong. they're always wrong. by the way. 6 to 20% is the range of error in the polls. and i suspect we might make a new record this time. >> well, even with an error margin of 20, it still wouldn't look particularly good for the tories this time out. something else i just wanted to ask you about. you've been campaigning for civil liberties for your whole career in that debate there. in that q&a, rishi sunak seemed to suggest that if young people, adults for 18 year olds, don't want to do national service , they would have sort of service, they would have sort of rights taken away from them that he said something about

finances, their bank cards taken away. how do you feel about that? >> well, what he said was there's going to be a royal commission on this. and what the royal commission is going to do is look at various other countries. now, sweden does this, you know, sweden, you know, soft, cuddly sweden where everybody's like me in terms of believing in civil rights. you know, we all have duties. we have duties to pay taxes. we have duties to pay taxes. we have duties to do various things, to behave in certain ways . and this would be one of ways. and this would be one of those duties. i have to say i approve of the policy . i want to approve of the policy. i want to see it in its final format. but we're not and we're not there yet. but i approve it. i was i was a reservist in in my earlier years, you know, and, and i would have taken pretty severe umbrage to having , keir starmer umbrage to having, keir starmer described as a teenage dad's army. you know, we were anything but. we were due to parachute into russia in the course of war. so >> so those sorts of things are very, very important to helping youngsters find their place in society. >> i mean, he told the example that he gave the example today of somebody who'd done voluntary service with saint john's ambulance and it meant he could help somebody. that particular person could help somebody who

broken their hip . you know, broken their hip. you know, those sorts of things are really important to helping our society come together. >> well, as you say, i mean, you've been around the conservative party for quite a long time. i think you just said there it was your 11th, 11th election here. someone made a point there about the conservative party was rishi sunak embarrassed to be leading the conservative party into this election? do you think the conservative party has become a bit of an embarrassment in the last five years, or are you proud of where it's no , no, of proud of where it's no, no, of course there have been differences of view. >> i've had famously had my own differences with boris, for example. you know, but what was interesting , the scandals and interesting, the scandals and the corruption, well, the little about corruption, but the scandals, i mean, we've got one today which which is uncomfortable, but we can't talk about it till it's under it's under inquiry now . about it till it's under it's under inquiry now. but about it till it's under it's under inquiry now . but the but under inquiry now. but the but the simple truth is that when rishi came in the reason i supported him when he came in was we needed to stabilise the party. the government and the country, and he's done that. actually, to be fair to him, i mean, today we've got 2%

inflation rate. i lived through the thatcher years. margaret thatcher would have given her eye teeth to get inflation down from 11, where she had it from time to time to 2. she would have given her eye teeth that she wouldn't have believed it as possible in less than a year. but that's what he's done. and that means he's now created scope for more tax cuts. because inflation is now down. those are really big things . and he's really big things. and he's basically wasn't getting given the credit for it by some of the audience tonight. but then the audience tonight. but then the audience is the audience is based on who's talking. so you know, just one last question. >> you say that the scandal today, we can't talk about it because investigations are ongoing . why can't rishi sunak ongoing. why can't rishi sunak just ask his candidates whether they did bet on that general election and if they did suspend them, why the long drawn out investigation that looks, i'm afraid if you're in the middle of a in one case, a criminal investigation, you have to allow it to, to carry out. >> you know, i'm afraid you know. no, no, wait a minute. you know, you asked me whether i believe in people's civil rights. you know, the presumption of innocence. you know , until proven guilty is one know, until proven guilty is one of those rights. you don't . no,

of those rights. you don't. no, no, no, you don't turn around to somebody who's accused of something and say, just just come to one side and confess to me. it doesn't work like that . me. it doesn't work like that. he's he's doing the right thing. he's he's doing the right thing. he's he's doing the right thing. he's he's angry about it. he's embarrassed about it, so am i. if it turns out to be true, i'll be furious about it. and in that case, actions will be taken and proper, proper justice will be served. but, you know, until we've done it, we can't do it. unfortunately >> thank you very much. really good to hear from you as always. thank you . thank you. >> now, rishi sunak. >> now, rishi sunak. >> well, very smiley, chipper performance there from david davis. he's always cheerful through these things, but the truth was, it was a very tough night for rishi sunak. that audience did not seem happy at all with what they were hearing. and of course, that is echoed across the country in all of these polls, which are coming out over and over again. so it is tough. he sort of managed to avoid a huge scandal that, but it was a very difficult night. i'm going to show you now just just so you get a taste of where i am and what we're doing. we're in the spin room here. lots and

lots of journalists, lots of mps. well, former mps here. you can see the cameras. there's a real lack of snacks, actually , real lack of snacks, actually, i'm quite unimpressed with the bbc on the snack front here. it's right over dinner as well. we also weren't allowed to watch the football. quite upsetting, just trying to get back onto the camera here, we have a whole bank of cameras over here behind us. >> us. >> interesting . >> interesting. >> interesting. >> that's all the other channels doing just what i'm doing now and explaining to you what's going on in this election debate. we also have a gaggle of print journalists over here. they're getting a briefing. well, they were a minute ago, getting a briefing from each of the leaders. i wasn't actually going to grab you. i've already spoken to you of alarmingly coming up to jonathan ashworth with a microphone. he took it very well, yeah . so this is what very well, yeah. so this is what the room looks like. it's exciting as ever. i think i'll be back with you a little bit later so you can hear some more.

>> absolutely. olivia, look, you've not only given us the collective noun for a load of print journalists, which is a gaggle, you've also done yourself down because you've said that all those other channels are doing exactly what you're doing. no, you do it so much better. olivia utley there, our political correspondent. thank you very, very much. we'll be going back to olivia as and when she grabs someone that isn't jonathan ashworth at some point there, which to be honest, to be honest with you, would be a relief for this day because he is on the channel almost as much as i am. but let's get the thoughts of my panel. i am joined by political editor of the express, sam lister, tory peer lord bailey and ex—labour advisor matthew laza. i'm going to play you a couple of clips now, this is sir keir starmer, and he was being asked about jeremy corbyn. okay. this is the ghost of its long corbyn he's deaung ghost of its long corbyn he's dealing with isn't it. i think, but here we go . but here we go. >> in 2019 i campaigned for the labour party, as i've always campaigned for the labour party . campaigned for the labour party. i wanted good colleagues to be returned to parliament. i knew we had a job and a half to do as a labour party because i didn't

think we were going to win that election afterwards, because we got the worst result since 1935, the electorate clearly gave their verdict to us, and we did a lot of work on how we needed to change the party. >> okay, so apparently sir keir starmer was asked five times to say whether or not he thought jeremy corbyn would make a good prime minister, and he didn't really answer that question. there is another clip that i'm going to play you now before i going to play you now before i go to my panel. also, is this keir starmer? and this is when he's being grilled on tax . he's being grilled on tax. >> well, in relation to taxation, i do need to be really clear . we are taxation, i do need to be really clear. we are not going to increase income tax. national insurance or vat. and the reason for that is because i think with the tax burden being as high as it is and a cost of living crisis , that is the wrong thing crisis, that is the wrong thing to do, particularly for working people. so we're not going to do that. >> okay. all right. i mean, he's kind of just repeating stuff

that he said quite a few times before really, isn't he ? before really, isn't he? >> i think at this point, yeah, i think it's interesting, the corbyn question, isn't it, because he clearly did go out and he didn't just talk about labour when he was campaigning in that election. he talked specifically about jeremy corbyn being a good future leader. now, obviously since then we've had the invasion of ukraine, we've had the pandemic. how would this country have coped under jeremy corbyn's leadership? and that's what keir starmer was advocating for. and he has accused ed rishi sunak of being a liar. but i think he has his own questions to answer about whether he misled the public last time round. >> yeah, no, i think indeed he does , now, matthew, yesterday i does, now, matthew, yesterday i brought to our viewers and listeners attention a labour canvasser who was out and about saying that he didn't actually like his job and he was actually going to go and vote lib dem and then moments later, it turned out that the lady who supposedly in charge of labour's islington nonh in charge of labour's islington north division was actually

campaigning for jeremy corbyn, then hid in a bush when she was called. yes that's my favourite moment of the campaign. much of an appetite for sir keir starmer. my point being is are we potentially about to get a keir starmer government big majority? and then wollop is actually incredibly unpopular as actually incredibly unpopular as a bloke. >> well, i think the government is going to have a lot of challenges to it. if he does, as we expect him to do win the election. i mean, we've got, you know, labour's got more members than all the other parties put together. so the fact that one of them may be in a seat where the lib dems are second, i don't know, decided that they were going to do i mean, famously, there was a by—election in richmond upon thames some time ago, which was zac goldsmith by—election where labour got fewer votes than it had members, because , because, because people because, because, because people wanted to tactically vote. so i mean, in, in terms of islington north, the, the said person has been hiding behind the hedge, got found out and is now no longer a member of the labour party. >> oh gosh. okay. well, i suppose that that does away with the lazy trope that labour sometimes get more votes than people that live in the seat.

but there we go. so shaun , there but there we go. so shaun, there is a clip i would like to play to you. i don't know if we're gonna be able to do it now or afterwards, but it's about rishi sunak and it's about the echr, which we'll play to you in a little bit. but apparently he was booed. someone shouting shame on him when he was saying how he would even potentially leave the echr, which i find quite astonishing, really. but i mean, rishi sunak's popularity is absolutely shot, isn't it? >> there's two things i'd say. rishi sunak is in a tough position, 14 years of government leading us through some of the toughest times the countries have ever had. of course, he's been under assault, but i often wonder. i'm beginning to wonder with these debates, what is the make up of the room? is someone deliberately leaning one way? and actually i think, i hope that isn't true because it will put bbc and itv and all the press under the pressure of at some point you have to be at least level. and it looks like now the media outlets are political campaigning. and at this point it seems it's funny you should say that, because a little bit later on in the show, we're going to play you a clip. >> they mentioned nigel farage's name in the room. they mentioned his name. and then there was a

little bit of an audience. and then fiona bruce stopped and goes, oh, it's raised some eyebrows. just the very mention of nigel farage's name, yeah. so shortly i will play you that clip of rishi sunak mentioning the echr just gauge the audience's reaction to it, because i actually think it's quite important to think who are in the rooms here, who are in the rooms when you're getting this, because that is what is portrayed out to the nation. i think we can actually play that clip. >> foreign court, including the european court, forces me to choose between our countries , choose between our countries, national security and membership of that court. i'm going to choose this country's national security every single time. >> so when you say it's a foreign court , shame, just to be foreign court, shame, just to be clear, when you say it's a foreign court, is a court that . foreign court, is a court that. >> yeah, see the smattering of applause and then someone there shame, shame. yeah. i mean, how dare somebody wants to choose our national security over a foreign cop? shameful stuff. anyway, the candidates standing in the constituency of islington nonh in the constituency of islington north are. sorry. >> are you ready? get yourself

to play. >> oh, no. jeremy corbyn, independent ball jostling, independent. vikas agarwal, liberal democrats, karen harris, conservatives. >> praful nargund, labour, shendan >> praful nargund, labour, sheridan cates green and martin nelson reform uk and again, i would like to apologise to my long suffering producers. there we go. coming up. is it indoctrinate ation for a nursery school to adorn its school in pride flags? they are really just infants aren't they? we debate that in the press pack. but what happens next here? on the podcast the fire . yes, but the podcast the fire. yes, but right now nigel farage has a different approach to the housing crisis. >> an 85% of that directly down to immigration. that's why people can't get houses. that's why rents have gone up . why rents have gone up. >> is he right? is mass immigration to blame for the housing crisis, and does it make a blind bit of difference how many houses we build until we've sorted that out ? and we'll also sorted that out? and we'll also have a load of top mps from the

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welcome back, keir starmer . welcome back, keir starmer. sorry. we have good chats in the break. keir starmer. rishi sunak sir davey and john sweeney were grilled by voters this evening . grilled by voters this evening. let's cross live to the spin room with gb news political correspondent olivia utley, who is with lib dem munira wilson.

olivia, take it away. >> hello. yes, i'm here with munira wilson from the lib dems. she's the education spokeswoman for the lib dems. munira, straight over to you. how did you think that went? how do you think ed davey did? >> i was really proud of ed's performance. i think he came across really decent , humble, in across really decent, humble, in touch with the concerns of the british people, which is why we've set out a strong , bold, we've set out a strong, bold, fully costed manifesto which puts health and care front and centre . centre. >> and we heard quite a lot about health today, didn't we? >> it was a little bit evasive, though, about his plans for whether he would consider going into a coalition after what happened last time. would you like to see the lib dems go into a coalition with labour? i mean, surely really, that's the dream scenario for the lib dems. >> well, what we're focused on every day between now and the 4th of july is to try and win as many votes and constituencies across the country as possible, and i think it would be the height of, you know, hubris. it would be really arrogant of me to start standing here

speculating on how many seats we're going to win and being in a position to be the kingmakers in the next government. we're really focused, as we heard today, from ed, on winning the trust of the british people and winning as many constituencies as possible . as possible. >> but realistically, i mean, you've written this whole manifesto , so the only way that manifesto, so the only way that the policies in that manifesto become law is if the liberal democrats can be in government and that would be in coalition. so you must want to go into coalition with labour. >> we've written a manifesto for government because we're a political party in our own right, and we're showing that we know and understand the concerns and priorities of british people. and we've set that out with liberal values and a set of solutions that, frankly, the other parties are struggling to match that are fully costed and we've shown where we're going to get that money from. and that's for people to judge us on and decide whether they want to vote for us. and i think you can see that. i can see that from knocking on hundreds and hundreds of doors since the start of the year, and certainly

since the start of this election, that people are really responding positively to that . responding positively to that. >> ed davey talked a lot about getting people out of poverty . i getting people out of poverty. i mean, i would have thought that the most dignified and best way to get people out of poverty is to get people out of poverty is to let them keep more of their own money by raising the income tax threshold. so why aren't the lib dems considering that? >> well, first of all, it was a liberal democrat policy in government to raise the income tax threshold in the first place. that lifted millions and millions out of paying tax altogether. it was not a conservative policy. we had to fight very hard for it. and ed said today that when the finances improve, if liberal democrats had the chance, it would be the first tax that we addressed, which is to raise the income tax threshold. unfortunately, at the moment that's a really difficult thing to do with public services, particularly our nhs. on its knees. particularly our nhs. on its knees . and we heard today about knees. and we heard today about waiting lists and the really difficult conditions that nhs staff are working in. that's why we're where we have spent money in the manifesto. it's been to prioritise health and care, but

also schools and families. >> thank you very much for a really good to speak to you. thank you . that's munira wilson thank you. that's munira wilson there from the liberal democrats . the liberal democrats are very keen to spend, spend , spend. the keen to spend, spend, spend. the one area where they will not spendis one area where they will not spend is on lowering taxes, to let people keep more of their own money. it does sound, though, as though they are going to do rather well at the general election. as ed davey said there they have had three bad elections in a row, but they now look on course to win possibly 60 seats, and on one poll they could even be the official opposition , leapfrogging the opposition, leapfrogging the conservatives into second place. that's how dire the position is looking for the conservative spin room is quietening down a little bit now. people are beginning to go home. still a gaggle of print journalists by the door speaking to various politicians . we're all quite politicians. we're all quite keen to go to bed though at this point, although we've still got one more interview a little bit later in the show. all right, good luck. >> you've nearly made it. you're

nearly home and hose just carry on one more. and i think it's astonishing. our licence fee money has not managed to stretch far enough for you to have a bit of nibbles when you're there. but anyway, olivia, thank you very much. until next time. which i think will be very soon now, labour have pledged to deliver the biggest increase in social and affordable house building in a generation. this means a promise of 1.5 million new homes built over the next parliament. keir starmer was also forced to deny that he wants to, quote, flatten the greenbelt, after an unnamed labour official was quoted in politico as saying i don't care if we flatten the whole greenbelt , if we flatten the whole greenbelt, we just need more houses in this country. so he apologised for that or denied it. >> he will protect the countryside and protect nature. of course it's very important in yorkshire. it's such beautiful countryside and we have to protect it. i obviously lived in yorkshire for three years when i was at university and loved this area, so of course we'll protect that, but at the same time we have to build the houses that we need and this project here, 650

houses took 15 years from the plans to getting a spade in the ground. we cannot go on with delays like that. that's what's holding up house building. >> there's also controversy about first time buyers using the state as the guarantor for their mortgages. presumably, the taxpayer would then be on the hook for anybody who stops paying hook for anybody who stops paying over to the tories. now they've promised 1.6 million houses on brownfield sites in cities. they've promised to keep the threshold at which first time buyers pay stamp duty at £425,000. and we'll launch a new and improved help to buy scheme to provide first time buyers with an equity loan of up to 20% towards the cost of new home building . and they have promised building. and they have promised to help first time buyers to get onto the ladder with a 5% deposit. but what the tories are not saying is anything really about immigration. so there is a bit of a clip here of a man who suddenly is saying rather a lot about immigration. >> for the labour and

conservative parties , today is conservative parties, today is housing day. they're going to talk about housing, access to housing on the labour party are going to talk about rents. well, i wonder whether either of them were mentioned. the fact that the british population has risen by 10 million since tony blair came to power , 6 million of that came to power, 6 million of that since the tories came to power in 2010, and 85% of that directly down to immigration. that's why people can't get houses. that's why people can't get houses . that's why rents have houses. that's why rents have gone up 20 to 30% in the last four years alone. but i'll bet you they don't even mention it. and that's why we're the only party in this election telling the british people the truth. >> okay, well, there we go. i've just rattled through the two main parties policies when it comes to housing. now, how many they're building and what they're building and what they're going to do, including maybe even make the state the guarantor for the mortgage. neither of them mentioned immigration today. it's not all right. sam. is mass immigration to blame for the housing crisis? >> well, i mean , mass >> well, i mean, mass immigration possibly. i mean, clearly we've seen a huge rise

in population over the last couple of decades . ultimately, couple of decades. ultimately, though, it's not it's not the migrants fault, is it? it's not people coming here. it's not their fault . it's the their fault. it's the government's fault for allowing the population to rise by a certain amount and not providing the infrastructure and not enabung the infrastructure and not enabling the house building to meet those demands. so, so yeah, clearly population strains are a big issue. and that's why people are frustrated with the issues we've got with legal and illegal migration. >> so if we take what the tories have said they're going to do, it says 1.6 million new homes, mostly in the major cities on brownfield sites. but that's not going to scratch the surface because they'll just be full, won't they, in a year or two. at this level of migration, this migration isn't the reason for the housing crisis. >> it's part of the reason as well. that's a real thing. the real thing is not providing enough homes. could you build 1.6 million homes, homes in a parliament on brownfield sites? yes but it's going to be very, very expensive. you're going to need a lot of private money as well to leverage that. so if a government wants to do that,

they're going to have to be prepared to put their hands in their pockets. the trouble is how deep are those pockets at this current time? that's the real challenge that we'll have. and keir starmer is planned to do roughly the same numbers. he's talking about brownfield sites, local politicians will not take on that fight. anybody who thinks they're going to be building in this country better be to prepared support local politicians to have that fight, or you will build nowhere near those numbers. >> yeah. i mean, there is an issue that whichever slightly overenthusiastic labour adviser who was briefing that, you know , who was briefing that, you know, they were going to flatten the greenbelt, just wait till you have scores of new labour mps in rather pretty and constituencies across the south and south—east of england, where i can tell you their local communities are not going to be wanting to build on the green. but quite a lot of bits of the greenbelt are grotty, but just a very it's a bit like the nhs, it's a national religion. the second national religion. the second national religion. the second national religion is the greenbelt, no matter, and yes, of course there is a sensible case for building on that, but you're going to see a kickback when you've got labour mps in place. the state be the

guarantor of people. i think the tory thing is, is madness because it's like labour. no, no, that's the tory one. was the 20. >> no. yeah. but the labour have apparently said they're going to be the guarantor. the state. >> well so what this is, that's just giving this is in america they these freddie mac and fannie mae, they're called these big things that they stand behind the mortgage. let's be clear, that led to the downfall of the entire western economy in the world because they weren't regulated properly. so are you going to proceed with care? >> is the point is, if you're going to make the state a guarantee of the mortgage that's going to distort the market in a very particular way. i don't even know how, but it certainly will. and there is a danger that it increases house prices. and here's here's i'm agreeing with sean. i'm glad you agree with me, because common sense. but the real problem is who pays. it's muggings. again, it's the taxpayer who have to catch that bill. there are better ways to support people onto the housing ladder than that. >> all right. okay lovely stuff. well, thank you very much, guys. we've managed to make the housing crisis quite interesting actually. so yes, when i come back, i will have the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you, and we'll have a couple more clips as well from

that leadership debate. but also, should nurseries be adorning their schools in pride flags? is it indoctrination? plus the new carpool karaoke looks a bit different, doesn't it? i'll reveal what's behind these bizarre pictures very shortly . and yes, like i said, shortly. and yes, like i said, it's shadow health secretary wes streeting. he's to be on soon and some more of

now it's time to bring you tomorrow's news. tonight. in the liveliest paper of you. likely to get anywhere on television. let's do it. we go with the eye first. better fast derails tory campaign amid fears that more names will emerge. yeah, it's this betting scandal that's rumbling on, isn't it? the daily mail. corbyn would have been better pm than boris. sir keir starmer claims starmer was extraordinary, answering a tv grilling by the voters . jeremy grilling by the voters. jeremy corbyn would have made a better pm, he thinks. well, it's quite

the allegation. the times sunak fails to boot out tories over poll betting, there's another a couple of other stories here. labour will delay vat on private school fees until 2025. oh, interesting. this so labour will not impose vat on private school fees before 2025 at the earliest. that is a few months away, isn't it? i is, it's a six month delay. >> it means it's not happening on day one. >> that is campaign speak for rich people. please still vote laboun rich people. please still vote labour. that's what that means. yeah, you've got a reprieve of. >> yeah. what what is that? maybe it's half a school year. yeah. is it just long enough to move the. >> well, basically it's less it's one term because obviously it's one term because obviously it's basically the autumn term. >> yeah, it's a term. oh well that'll take the edge off, okay. yeah. and, marriages surge after covid put love on hold. >> oh, and we know that there's you know. oh, i'm a big fan of marriage in the air. >> okay. all right. good stuff . >> okay. all right. good stuff. thank you. i'm joined by my by my press back here. it's sam lester is the political editor of the express. tory peer, lord bailey and ex—labour advisor matthew laza. and i've got a

couple of clips i can go to now, i think from people. yes i do. so we were talking earlier on about some of the audience members at some of these. i regard them as being completely pointless leadership debates, of course, unless we do one here on gb news, in which case it's the best. but, this is the type of people, and dare i say it, presenter of the bbc debate. have a listen to what they say about nigel farage the following night in birmingham we have yet another question time special, much like tonight, but it will be with the green party co—leader adrian ramsay and reform uk's leader nigel farage. >> and that will be on 8:00. so if you want to be a sort of interesting noise from the audience here. >> yeah, there you go. just the mere mention of it makes you wonder, doesn't it, whether or not that is a completely, representative audience. there were also, grilling ed davey on some of his stunts, and this is something i've been trying to do a little bit on throughout the course of this election so far. well, it's all very well and good. all right. initially you're drumming up a bit of

support. you're in windermere. there you're on a paddleboard and you're throwing yourself in. hahaha. very good. but then he got a make over on itv and then after that he was doing sandcastles on the bbc and all of this. and you think, hang on a minute, is anyone actually talking to this guy about a policy? i know we can't because he's halfway up a roller coaster. anyway, here he is now getting told where to go, essentially by a member of the pubucis essentially by a member of the public is a serious question. >> i'm grateful for it. i take your concerns and the concerns of voters very , very seriously. of voters very, very seriously. and if you look at our manifesto , we've got some very well thought through policies to try to do things like rescue the nhs. but i don't think politicians should take themselves too seriously. i think that's part of the problem in politics, actually. people are really disillusioned. they think politicians don't get them. and yes, it's been to grab a bit of attention . but when a bit of attention. but when i did fall off that paddleboard in lake windermere , the serious lake windermere, the serious message was about the sewage problem . problem. >> yeah. so he was asked whether or not all that horseplay was really prime ministerial, i'm just going to whiz it on now

because there's a story that's been doing the rounds that i was quite interested in. and i would really like your views on this as gbnews.com/yoursay but, a primary school, a nursery school actually has been accused of indoctrinating four year old children after putting up a pride flag . so in kent, that's pride flag. so in kent, that's where it is. yeah. and it's put up a large rainbow flag and ten smaller ones on its outer fence, as well as further flags in classrooms to mark pride month. social campaigner james s has hit back, saying could you kindly explain why you appear hell bent on indoctrinating four year old children by plastering this ideological symbol all over your school? matthew is this indoctrination? >> no, no, absolutely not, because this is the pride flag going up. this isn't sort of detailed sex education in nursery school, which would be inappropriate. i was an oxford street, our nation's largest shopping street today, and it is awash with pride flags . awash with pride flags. >> it was awash with flag flags instead of, union jacks over d—day as well. >> well, well, that's a different that's a different debate. but can i just finish? so the point is the point is, is that, you know, if you're if you're a nurse, if you're a

parent of a nursery school pupil, they're going to go to the supermarket. there are pride flags. the pride flags everywhere are going to ask what it is. and a sensible explanation that's age appropriate is absolutely right. because what are you going to say that that, you know, maybe kids in that school who've got who've got parents in a same sex relationship, it's not the same. >> it's not the same. a school should be a safe place. oxford street is actually an oxford street is actually an oxford street is a commercial environment. they could do as they please. oxford street should be ashamed, not supporting the action that made oxford street actually exist. but a school should not be doing these things for two reasons, because it forces young children to have conversations about their sexuality that they don't need to have yet, and schools should not engage in politics. because if you have pride, they have palestinian issues, you don't have other issues, and you have walls in schools that you simply don't need to have. that's why i use the point safe space a clear space where children could come and just be educated . educated. >> should four year old sam be encountering this kind of thing in the school? and it should. should there be pride flags everywhere? >> and i think, i mean, i'm always very pro protecting the innocence of children from from anything to do with adult issues

. not this one particularly, but just just anything really. i think you know, let's let kids be kids for as long as possible , be kids for as long as possible, but, you know, also, i'm very pro people , feeling very kind of pro people, feeling very kind of comfortable with all kinds of different types of people. what i do have an issue with is the, the t bit of this, which is obviously a disputed area. it is an area where obviously many women are very upset about the way , trans rights are clashing way, trans rights are clashing with women's rights , but that is with women's rights, but that is not an easy concept to get your head around. most adults struggle to really understand the complexity of that issue. it's really not one for four year olds. this flag is. it includes the t bit of this, which is a disputed area and is not easy, for it's not certainly anything for, you know. >> well said . >> well said. >> well said. >> i think it needs to be. i mean, i think it needs to be a very simple explanation. one that's, you know, some some people have, you know, you know, two dads, some people have two

mums. >> it's not about the pride flag. it's about opening up a school to huge political debates. for instance, do we start talking about race critical theory because people say, well probably yes. well you've had hold on. have you ? you've had hold on. have you? you've had the pride flag. so let's have my flag now that's what will happen. and particularly with primary school aged children , leave them be. aged children, leave them be. all right okay. >> we obviously could carry this on, but i've got another, really divisive issue to get to very shortly, two british museums are set to restrict women from seeing sacred artefacts. i'm not making this up because of cultural sensitivity . so cultural sensitivity. so basically, these old tribes were misogynists, and now we have to be as well, i think. but next, i'll bring you more. tomorrow's front pages. stay

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now very shortly, i will be showing you some more of

the front pages. but i believe we're whizzing it back. oh. okay we're going to hear a little bit from john swinney, who is a leader of the snp, and this is what he had to say when he was confronted by some of the snp's numerous scandals . numerous scandals. >> it's been a turbulent time, and i'd be the first to accept that and to admit that. so my party's asked me to lead it through this election campaign and beyond. the 2026 parliamentary elections, to essentially do two things to, first of all, rebuild trust between the electorate and the scottish national party. and i've always worked throughout my political life to build trust and confidence with the electorate that have chosen me. and secondly , to provide the and secondly, to provide the direction that's necessary in the scottish government to change people's lives . change people's lives. >> okay, so was john swinney there ? interesting. he said there? interesting. he said there? interesting. he said there that his party asked him. i was actually live on air when humza yousaf resigned and we knew at 1030 that morning. so

before that john swinney had already arranged a press conference, because we were told to be there for it. so he wasn't so much asked as put himself forward and nobody else wanted to, i think. but there we go . to, i think. but there we go. england fans created an incredible atmosphere in the build up to our clash with denmark in frankfurt earlier, but one bloke was having a better time than most. bev turner fired jack carson five hours after the may day . just hours after the may day. just makes you proud to be british today. >> english, english, english, yeah, absolutely. >> it does. it does though, seriously, doesn't it? >> yes. oh >> yes. oh >> i mean, i thought we saw those fantastic shots , fantastic those fantastic shots, fantastic pictures of the scottish fans holding the umbrella over the elderly german lady. i think that was more of a concerted

attempt to, to prove that, that to get the one upmanship. >> i'll be honest with you, i love this stuff. i absolutely love this stuff. i absolutely love it. i even like the flare up the backside guy that we had. >> have you ever done it years ago? >> no. i've not, no i've not. au— >> no. i've not, no i've not. all right. but you know, but yeah, the boys and girls in that crowd will never forget that moment. >> and the fact that you showed it on television will just sear it on television will just sear it into their memory. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> it is mostly boys , in the crowd. >> i like it. i think there's a lot of bad rap about, you know, engush lot of bad rap about, you know, english football fans on tour , english football fans on tour, and. all right, there's a bit of history there and things, but i do think there's a lot of history. there's a lot of history. there's a lot of history. yeah. but, but, but i do think for the most part now, you know, we're all right. it's all a bit of banter, isn't it? yeah. it's all a bit of banter. >> good harmless fun like that, you know, in your underpants. >> he kept his pants on. >> he kept his pants on. >> and we're thankful for that. which was very. >> which is british, which is peak british. >> that's more than what some of the scots have been doing. you know, there's some of those unfortunate because what they don't realise, or maybe they do

realise and don't care actually is, you know, when they got the kilts on and nothing on underneath, when you're on the tiered seating, like you get a stand and you sit back like that and then everyone below you can see straight up your kilt, okay. and people have been starting to pull. so i would argue politely that that is maybe more offensive than i saw it earlier today. >> it was it was a guy in soho in a cropped england top, owning a new sort of england fan . a new sort of england fan. >> there you go. there you go. right now, in case you hadn't noticed, we were slightly filling for time there, but olivia utley is back with us now. he was in the spin room because there's been the leadership debate. olivia, thank you very much. i don't think i could have taken that kilt chat any longer. so yeah. have you got . got. >> i have got wes streeting with me now. who's the shadow health secretary? well, what did you make of that? how did you think keir starmer did? >> well, i know people are going to expect me to say. >> i thought he was great. >> i thought he was great. >> so having done my contractual duty, look , i think in all duty, look, i think in all seriousness, i thought the best moments of the evening was when keir actually set out the

choices for the trade offs, the tough decisions that we've made this side of the election, to make sure that every promise we make sure that every promise we make in our manifesto is a promise that we can keep, and a promise that we can keep, and a promise that we can keep, and a promise that the country can afford. i felt that he really thrives in that kind of format, of talking directly to people, rather than through kind of intermediaries. no disrespect in the media, he loves that kind of format. and also there was just such a contrast between the change he is able to offer , change he is able to offer, having changed the labour party and rishi sunak, who to be honest, looked pretty broken and defeated and you could understand why why rishi sunak, just look beaten up today because once again we see more chaos, more scandal engulfing the conservative party and a prime minister who's frankly too weak to lead it. >> you talk about the moments where you thought keir starmer shone. i think one of the moments where he didn't do particularly well was when he was asked about jeremy corbyn and why he campaigned for jeremy corbyn to be prime minister, why he actually said that jeremy

corbyn would make a great prime minister. this has come up again and again over this election campaign. why doesn't he have a better answer? >> well, the truth is that people like keir starmer, who let's not forget , who voted no let's not forget, who voted no confidence in jeremy corbyn's leadership and resigned from the front bench. people like keir starmer, tom watson, they had a really difficult choice to face and they decided to try and influence from within to stop the labour party experiencing an extinction level event. i mean, in the end we had a near death experience in 2019, but since then people have seen keir starmer has done two things. one is to reconnect the labour party with people and communities. we should have never broken faith and trust with, and he went around the country listening and i mean genuinely listening as to why people turned their backs on laboun why people turned their backs on labour. and secondly, he's provided now a safe harbour for millions of disaffected conservative voters who, frankly, have seen their their party, just descend into chaos, division and scandal. party, just descend into chaos, division and scandal . they're division and scandal. they're looking for an alternative. and i think they see in a changed labour party a leader and a

party that they can put their faith in. and that's why i think people are i'm certainly finding on the doorstep people now switching directly from the conservatives to labour, including people who've never voted labour at a general election before, like my dad, who is voted labour for the first time at a general election. >> thank you. one very quick one. we've only got one minute left, but there was a bit of confusion there about rent. keir starmer has said that he wants to end the bidding war, but he wasn't clear on how he's going to do that. is he advocating for rent controls? because that's not in the labour? no, it's really simple. >> the rent that's advertised has got to be the rent that tenant's got to accept the first offer. yeah. if not the first offer. yeah. if not the first offer. they've got to stick to the asking price because at the moment you see this terrible bidding war and people, particularly young people, literally sometimes standing in the property bidding against each other and watching the opportunity to have a place to live just fall away because they're priced out. we can't have that. we've got to have fair rents, and that means the price that's advertised should be the price that tenants pay, and that's what we'll legislate to deliver.

>> thank you very much. last time. really good to speak to you.thank time. really good to speak to you. thank you. well, that was wes streeting there sounding like every labour politician who we've heard quite cheerful this evening, unsurprisingly, given how far ahead they are on the polls, but still a little bit uncomfortable on that question of why did they campaign for jeremy corbyn to be prime minister if they thought he was such a bad egg? that is it. from the spin room tonight. everyone's wrapping up now. print journalists have hit their deadunes. print journalists have hit their deadlines . they're all going deadlines. they're all going home. i think we are too. >> are you said olivia. thank you very, very much. another top stint for us. there olivia utley in the spin room. well, i am pretty much bang out of time now, so i would just like to thank everybody who's been watching and tuning in and listening in as well. i'll be back again tomorrow from 9 pm. with the rip roaring show. headliners are up next. thank you to my wonderful panel. thank you, thank you, thank you. i would urge you to just go back and have a little look and rewind the show. if you're watching on youtube, etc. have a look at what we did at the top of the night. a candidate caught out really on record saying some absolutely disgraceful things about women. should that kind of person be allowed to run for office in this country? but yes,

that's all down to you. i'll see you tomorrow at nine. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office on gb news. most places will have a fine start tomorrow. plenty of sunshine, but a change on the way in the west as things start to cloud over with outbreaks of rain. courtesy of a couple of weather systems and a couple of areas of low pressure pushing away the high pressure that's brought most of us a fine day today. still very pleasant out there this evening . the main exception this evening. the main exception to that being western scotland as the rain is trickling in here, some of that rain could turn a bit heavy as we go through the night, but for most it's a dry night. clear skies will allow a little bit of mist and fog to form and turn quite chilly over parts of eastern england, down to single figures for parts of east anglia and the south east, certainly in the

countryside. so a coolish start here, but any mist and fog will soon disappear and then generally it's going to be another fine day across the midlands, east anglia and the south east. plenty of sunshine soon starting to lift the temperatures , but a cloudier day temperatures, but a cloudier day for wales and southwest england. quite a cloudy start for northern ireland with some outbreaks of rain here and a bit of a damp start in western scotland as well. much of northern england, much of eastern scotland, dry and fine, but a lot of cloud and some outbreaks of rain and drizzle over the northern isles to its further west, though, where we've got this weather front moving in, bringing more in the way of persistent rain that will cloud things over across all of northern ireland by lunchtime and patchy rain edging in here through the afternoon. further rain to come at times across western scotland. a few showers developing across wales and southwest england to still some brightness possible here, but definitely the brighter , definitely the brighter, sunniest weather over central and eastern parts and the warmest

gb news. >> good evening. you're with gb news. in a moment. headliners. but first, let's bring you up to date with the latest news headunes. date with the latest news headlines . and the prime headlines. and the prime minister has said tonight he is incredibly angry to learn about conservative figures allegedly betting on an election date. speaking tonight during a tv election special, he also said people should face the full force of the law if they're found to have broken the rules. the conservative candidate, laura saunders, and her husband tony lee, who's the campaign director for the conservative party, are both currently under scrutiny over those allegations. and it comes after another conservative candidate, craig williams, admitted to an error of judgement after he placed a bet on when the election would take place. well, the four main party leaders all took part in the election debate on the bbc tonight, but reform uk were left out of it , tonight, but reform uk were left out of it, placed instead alongside the greens in an additional show next week, the

former leader, nigel farage, has instead been speaking to an audience in blackpool in lancashire, where he criticised labour once their manifesto. >> last week. there were six key objectives . not one of them objectives. not one of them mentioned legal immigration, not one of them mentioned the population explosion in this country. not one of them mentioned the population crisis in this country. not one of them mentioned the fact that no one of them has shortage of houses because we need to build one new home every two minutes in our country. just to cope with the levels of immigration into britain. none of it mentioned reform uk leader nigel farage speaking earlier on this evening. >> now the economy and borrowers will now have to wait until august for the chance of an interest rate cut. as today, the bank of england held the rate at

5.25. the bank said it needed more certainty that inflation will remain low, but the minutes from the bank of england's meeting hinted at the possibility of a rate cut in august, when they next meet, and bofis august, when they next meet, and boris johnson is promising an honest, unrestrained and deeply revealing he says, account of his time in downing street in his time in downing street in his new book . it's called his new book. it's called unleashed. it'll be in the shops in october and will also cover his time as mayor of london. and just lastly, the actor donald sutherland, whose career spanned more than seven decades, has died at the age of 88. his many credits included the dirty dozen in 1967, the famous war comedy mash in 1970, and, of course, ordinary people in 1980, which won the academy award for best picture. well, recently he starred in the hunger games series of films. he was father to kiefer sutherland , who to kiefer sutherland, who announced his death tonight on twitter. donald sutherland is often cited as one of the finest actors never to have won an

oscar. he did, however, win two golden