in 2019. poor choice in 2019. >> okay. sir keir starmer answered some gb news viewers questions. we'll have reaction from sir graham brady as well. plus, pull him down. >> yes. there we go. >> yes. there we go. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> they're young. they're full of enthusiasm . they're optimistic. >> has nigel farage caught the establishment sleeping? he is very very popular with the gen z—ers, isn't he. and that's looking at driving licences, other access to finance, all sorts of other things . do you sorts of other things. do you think it's right that rishi sunak should throw the book at teenagers who bunk off? national service also , but send a very service also, but send a very symbolic gesture to millions of people by saying that she was going to stop using those jets. yeah i reveal which global superstar has a passion . private superstar has a passion. private jet plea in their inbox. he has mugged himself off big time there. i am going to bring you there. i am going to bring you the very first of tomorrow's front pages as well. with my

press pack. i've got former bbc chief political correspondent anditv chief political correspondent and itv as well john john sergeant, former apprentice star joana jarjue and political commentator alex armstrong. oh and life's all about balance, isn't it ? hey. isn't it? got isn't it? hey. isn't it? got back on it today. that lad you love to see it. get ready britain. here we go . britain. here we go. can you trust a word that sir keir starmer says .

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>> it would be a better prime minister. well, look what we got, boris johnson. a man who made massive promises , didn't made massive promises, didn't keep them and then had to leave parliament in disgrace . parliament in disgrace. >> but then today refused to double down on that. >> the choice at the last election before the electorate was not a good choice. you had bofis was not a good choice. you had boris johnson, who won and then three years later was thrown out of parliament for breaking the rules that jeremy corbyn, who is now expelled from the labour party. that's why i have been so determined to change the labour party and to make sure that that change labour party puts forward a credible manifesto for growth so that at this election there will be a real choice between carrying on with the failure of the last 14 years or turning the page and rebuilding the country. >> okay. i mean, this could be a sign that sir keir is worried about losing the left of his party. it emerged that the local

labour party leader in corbyn's constituency was actually out campaigning for jeremy corbyn, but he could be seen as quite concerning. if corbyn had beaten boris. he'd have had to handle the covid pandemic. how do we think he would have done with that? the brexit deal needed to be finalised. jeremy corbyn was a lifelong brexiteer but miraculously became a remainer after the referendum. how do you think he would have dealt with that ? putin invaded think he would have dealt with that? putin invaded ukraine. how do you reckon corbyn would have donein do you reckon corbyn would have done in that situation? and let's be honest, jeremy corbyn would have likely made israel an enemy over britain when it came to gaza. let's have a little look at who else would have been involved in this. jeremy corbyn government. shall we would have had diane abbott as home secretary. emily thornberry as foreign secretary and john mcdonnell as chancellor is it not a concern that the man who could be about to be our prime minister seems to think that that cabinet would have been better than the one that we had in 2019? what do we actually know about sir keir starmer's views here? let's get the thoughts from our panel this

evening . former bbc and itv evening. former bbc and itv chief political correspondent john sergeant, chief political correspondent john sergeant , former apprentice john sergeant, former apprentice star joana jarjue and political starjoana jarjue and political commentator alex armstrong. commentator alex arm strong. alex, commentator alex armstrong. alex, i'll start with you. i mean, when it comes to sir keir starmer and jeremy corbyn, do we have any idea what he thinks ? is have any idea what he thinks? is it not a worry that he might have genuinely might think that jeremy corbyn would have been a better prime minister than boris johnson? well, he clearly does think that he wouldn't have said it otherwise. >> surely he thinks it. i think he must have realised, and his advisers must have said after that little stint in the laughter that came from the audience. hey, look, you sound a bit silly. you're the bloke who who endorsed jeremy corbyn for prime minister and backed his manifesto. i mean, sir flip flop is the perfect thing to say about him because he constantly changes his opinion with whatever the wind is on the day. i mean, he only changed his opinion on trans rights the other week when tony blair said it. so, you know, this is a bloke you can't trust , is it? bloke you can't trust, is it? >> well, this is the issue, john, isn't it? it's trust when it comes to sir keir starmer is built. his whole thing about being mr forensic, we don't really know where he stands on anything. he plays with the wind. >> now this is, i'm afraid it's where the clash really of the

westminster culture which is about tribal loyalty. essentially, if you want to get anything done in britain, you've got to combine at westminster , got to combine at westminster, the tories have shown what happens if you don't do that. you get extreme chaos for a long period. so i think all, all keir starmer's instincts are to think we must pull together. and of course that means in party terms at westminster, you pull behind your leader. there's another point too. he must now increasingly feel he will be prime minister in two weeks time. and what will he have to do then? he will have to call on a whole lot of people on the labour side, some of whom will actually be against him. yeah, and he's got to make sure that they say look right or wrong , go they say look right or wrong, go behind the leader. if you want to change another party, cross the floor of the house, have a by—election in your seat, and so on. but that sort of rather rigid way of looking at the world, i'm afraid , is the world, i'm afraid, is the westminster way. and i was there for many years observing this. and you could see that the actual critical, the critical

question was, which side are you on? are you in the government side or the opposition side? so if you then put him into his first election campaign and you ask him this sort of question, he then gets completely confused. but he's not. >> he keeps saying he's changed the labour party. he's not changed the labour party. loads of people still support jeremy corbyn. the person who's the local islington north, labour leader. there was out campaigning. she hid in a bush when it turned out that someone had rumbled her. for goodness sake. you know, he would. he would have obviously supported jeremy corbyn. he did support him a couple of times. >> can you imagine, though, patrick, if you even said a year or so ago that that jeremy corbyn be out of the labour party, not allowed to stand. i mean that would have seen quite a shake up. that would be an amazing shake—up exactly. >> isjeremy amazing shake—up exactly. >> is jeremy corbyn you can dislike his policies , but the dislike his policies, but the way that people talk about him is, is as if he's like an enemy of the country and he's done something absolutely terrible. he's not the one that was saying pile the bodies high when people were dying and people's grandparents. he's not the one that was neglectful or all the way through the covid pandemic. he's not the one that has lied

time and time and time again when it comes to his promises. bofis when it comes to his promises. boris johnson is the type of person who's actually had that record . so of this fantasy, and record. so of this fantasy, and it almost seems as if the country is, like, stopped being granular and actually having evidence for why they hate jeremy corbyn. well, come back to that fantasy, come back to that. >> would jeremy corbyn have deau >> would jeremy corbyn have dealt with some of those key flashpoints better than boris johnson ? johnson? >> no, no, he absolutely wouldn't have. come on, let's be honest. he's ideological driven. >> so jeremy corbyn is not a pragmatist. let's be honest. he is driven by his ideology. so he would have had all these people around him telling him, oh, you better do it. this, this is the socialist way to do it, jeremy. and that's the difference. it's the reason why jeremy corbyn never got elected in the first place, because he is a socialist to the max, isn't it? >> when it comes to the things that have actually affected the country and its population, the covid pandemic, you can't tell me that jeremy corbyn would have been necking pints, but we won't know, right? >> we won't know. but what i will we will say what i will say about this. >> what i will say just to say it's on this neck for a lot of

people, necking pints is not actually the central issue. it's things like lockdowns. it was things like lockdowns. it was things like lockdowns. it was things like the covid jab. it was all of this stuff which many people do think that boris johnson didn't want to do wrong, that was the point. so would jeremy corbyn have actually been worse off? >> be honest? >> be honest? >> well, look, i don't know. but it seems to me from labour's position during covid that they would have locked us down for longer and harder. so, so let's be real. that's the position. and keir starmer, someone he said he supported jeremy corbyn and has followed through on those policies and said i mean i'm surprised we were still being bloody locked down today. if it wasn't for keir starmer. >> i agree that maybe labour would have locked us down for longer, but maybe the difference is they would have locked us down sooner, which meant that maybe we wouldn't have. the pandemic wouldn't have gone on for as longer. whereas boris johnson delayed that. >> i don't know if that was an add up, i think. yeah, go on. do you were just saying that? >> i mean, if you think of jeremy corbyn's personality, he's a campaigner. now, you may say that's good, but it doesn't make him a good prime minister. he would not have been a good prime minister. he finds it extremely difficult to take in other people . he has a line that other people. he has a line that he follows a left line. he's proud of the fact that his views

don't change. now, for most people , if you're trying to run people, if you're trying to run a government, you you have to change. and when there's an epidemic that we had to suffer from, everyone had to just think, my goodness me, i mustn't have hard and fast views. this thing is changing so rapidly. we've got to adapt to it. >> this is a jeremy corbyn is a man that loves to bow down to big institutions and socialist institutions like the wef, for example. you know, he would have the who would have had the grip on britain and any policy that came out, they would never be allowed to question the science. >> i do. president xi johanna, when it comes to keir starmer, he's changed his views on brexit. he's changed his stance on jeremy corbyn, he's changed his definition of what a working person is. he's changed his definition of what a woman is. i mean, he's just a liar, isn't he? >> i don't think necessarily . i >> i don't think necessarily. i completely admit that, johanna. i completely sir flip flop no. okay. yeah. he's flip flopped on a few things. i admit that, but i don't think that that makes him a categorical liar. i think that you know, in the political landscape, things have changed. so things that seem like his flip flopping is because the

economy's changed. for example . economy's changed. for example. so if he's made a u—turn on something, certain things, he's had an excuse when it comes to what he thinks about things personally, like what is a woman and whatever, then i think that that's a bit, you know, i kind of squint when i look at him when it comes to stuff like that, but really important stuff when it comes to policies that people say, i don't know what keir starmer stands for. >> i think that's i don't i don't think he goes the full i don't think he goes the full i don't think he goes the full term. he's on a personal popularity rating of around 51. unpopularity rate. sorry about 51% at the moment. and that's considering that he's about to potentially win a 200 seat majority. i think john highlighted earlier on some of the fractures within that labour party. it will be interesting to see how they come to the fore. john, do you think sir keir starmer goes the full five years? >> well, it's going to be very hard for him because of course, yes, he gets in with enormous majority . but the moment that majority. but the moment that happens people think, oh right, i don't need to support him. let's object to this, let's object to that. let's form factions. and goodness me, we've seen it on the conservatives when you think of the majority,

they had that within a few weeks ago. they had a majority of 80, for goodness sake. but did they manage to mess all that up by arguing the whole, can i just say that keir starmer will last if he actually does bring the parties together? >> and if he doesn't, bad mouth, jeremy corbyn, because when you look in the us, but when you look in the us, but when you look at in the us , what i think look at in the us, what i think that biden has done really well is not kind of alienate people who are more of the left of the party. so he's kind of tried to bring, other people with him, you know, the bernie sanders type of camp and that has worked for him. but whereas when you look at hillary clinton, even though she didn't win, when everything went, you know , went everything went, you know, went wrong for her, she then started slating that side. so i think that he should learn from the parties that, in the us and how that's worked out for them because biden's been able to get things over the line, wander around completely naked in the white house party, party management. >> that's absolutely right. party management is going to be right there the moment he starts from day one. >> joanna's just nailed it, right. the party is going to go more left. right. let's be

honest. this is a big charade at the moment. no that's exactly what you said. they're going to have to remember. they're going to go further left. >> just you watch. >> just you watch. they're >> just you watch. they're going to go further left. and what happens when they go further left is the public can go, no no no no no. we don't like this. and i'm telling you, i, i used to work for the labour party. bearin to work for the labour party. bear in mind and i'm not not a lefty anymore, but i used to work for the labour party and i hit all the sources say that angela rayner is scratching. theni angela rayner is scratching. then i have, but i'm not politician. >> and you're complaining ? >> and you're complaining? >> and you're complaining? >> angela rayner is scratching on the doors and she will be scratching on the doors of number 10. just you wait and see. she will be. she will be gunning for the top job within within months. yeah, but your views have i want to raise 21. >> but it's a question of credibility and whether or not we can believe a single word that keir starmer says. the guardian has seen internal labour documents today confirmed by senior sources, which go radical changes to both capital gains and inheritance tax . they gains and inheritance tax. they are going to be ramping up tax absolutely big time. and he sits there and he says, well, not on working people, not on working people. then he's changed his

definition of what a working what happens to them with the market response is bad. >> what do they do then? we're back in the world of liz truss, so don't not listen. >> this is this is the media bias. i know this is the media bias. i know this is the media bias. he can build an entire manifesto, an economic manifesto around, well, i'm just going to go for growth. and that'll cover everything with zero evidence that that'll work. and no one has a go at him for that. everybody knows the position they're going to take over. >> if they do take over is going to be extremely narrow. they have not got very much room for manoeuvre. they know that everybody else knows it, but they're hiding the truth. >> and the ifs put out a massive video in a statement saying both the major parties, by the way, are. but labour are doing it far worse. they're saying they're not going to cut it to raise your taxes, but they are going to raise your taxes. they're saying they will protect income tax, but they're going and they will. >> everybody knows they're going to the bands aren't going to be unfrozen and i reckon they will fall back. >> ultimately on that thing. when they realise that they've got to do that, they will go , oh got to do that, they will go, oh well, well are you relatively well, well are you relatively well off then? what? do you have a house? what do you think? you should pay tax shouldn't you?

you should pay more tax. and i know that some people, joanna particularly might think that's a great idea. there's a lot of people who worked very hard for that stuff, but i'm going to go to the candidates list now for the constituency of islington north. jeremy corbyn, independent paul jocelyn, independent paul jocelyn, independent vikas agarwal, liberal democrats, karen harris, conservative praful nagar and labour sheridan cates, greens and martin nelson. reform uk now coming up nigel farage has declared war on ofcom for supposedly suppressing reform coverage. are the establishment absolutely , completely and absolutely, completely and utterly asleep to his popularity amongst the young and the old and the working class and loads of other people follow him down. >> yes, there we go. yes, they're young, they're full of enthusiasm. they're optimistic . enthusiasm. they're optimistic. >> i call the stingrays are going places! anyway i will ask the deputy leader of rejoin eu, richard morley , whether he can richard morley, whether he can actually get his head around the fact that mr farage might be quite popular. but up next, rishi sunak has pledged to come down strong on any national

service. dissenters that's looking at driving licences, other access to finance , all other access to finance, all sorts of other things. all right then, what do you think should happen to young people who refuse to take part in national service? hang em and flog them or not? ceo of youth vote alex cairns goes head to head with former senior military intelligence officer philip ingram. and that's next. stay

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up. has nigel farage found a way to engage britain's politically disillusion ? youngsters? but disillusion? youngsters? but first, would it be fair for rishi sunak to sanction young people who refuse to take part in national service? it's time for the head to head . well, for the head to head. well, rishi sunak's let the cat amongst the pigeons during last night's leaders debate, when he claimed that young people who tried to dodge his compulsory national service plans could face sanctions. >> we'll have a set of sanctions and incentives and we will look at the models that are existing around europe to get the appropriate mix of those. there's a range of different opfions there's a range of different options that exist. for example, there's all sorts of things that people do across europe, whether that's looking at driving licences as other access to finance, all sorts of other things. there's a range of things. there's a range of things and we will have a royal commission look at all of those come back to the government and recommend what the appropriate mix of incentives and sanctions is. >> it comes just weeks after the

conservative leader first announced the policy in a bid to woo back voters who were originally drifting to nigel farage's reform uk . under the farage's reform uk. under the plan, every 18 year old will either have to enrol in the military for 12 months or spend one weekend each month volunteering in the community. needless to say, the policy was torn to shreds by young people on social media. you see, now , on social media. you see, now, women want to . be. women want to. be. >> the maker. get ready with me, then you can make a get ready with me on the front line. and if you can rot in bed, then you can rot in a trench . born in the can rot in a trench. born in the noughfies can rot in a trench. born in the noughties but made to do national service, some people might argue they are exactly the kind of people who need a bit of national service. >> but tonight i am asking, would it be fair for rishi sunak to sanction young people who refuse to take part? let me know your thoughts. go to gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews. go and vote in our poll. you know it works by now. but first going head to head on

this is the ceo of youth vote, alex cairns, and former senior military intelligence officer philip ingram. chaps, thank you very much, alex. i will start with you on this. look, if someone wants to bunk off military service and it is the law, then why should we all be paying law, then why should we all be paying their student loan ? paying their student loan? >> i think this is an absolutely ridiculous idea . we've got to ridiculous idea. we've got to a situation now where the government are looking at the declining number of people that are leaving the military, are leaving the nhs , and they're leaving the nhs, and they're they're saying to themselves, what's the solution? let's force a bunch of 18 year olds that don't want to be there, to have to step up for the country. bear in mind, lots of young people already did their part. you know , during the lockdown, they stayed at home to make sure that we could protect, you know, the elderly. you know, they did a lot of volunteering is that the conservatives would put it in their community. so forcing young people because, you know, the government don't pay the military or the nhs staff a proper wage and they need to get people engineering. >> did young people do during covid? >> oh, there was you know, i know lots of people in my community that made sure that, you know, some elderly people got their food parcels, you know, carrying shopping , you

know, carrying shopping, you know, carrying shopping, you know, lots of, you know, lots of people with respect. >> doing that one weekend a month is not a massive hassle, is it? >> but but but i think, you know, i'm very surprised that he's decided of all age groups, let's attack the young people. let's get them to step up. because the wider point here is not listen , you know, lots of not listen, you know, lots of young people actually take an active part in this in their community. what we're saying here is, you know, we're going to force them to do a 12 month military or nhs service . and military or nhs service. and we're literally if they don't do it, we're going to take away their driving licence or we're going to, you know, it's ridiculous. >> well, is there not something in this, philip? i mean, you know, former senior military intelligence officer, i do wonder if some of the young people are being quite short sighted about this. i was talking to someone in the military the other day about this very policy , and they were this very policy, and they were saying, there's loads of cool stuff that you can do, things that are involved with, like i things are involved in cyber security as well . you're not security as well. you're not necessarily picking up a gun and going and getting trench foot. are you? >> yeah, 100. i'm not a fan of compulsory service in the military. so conscription for the military. but the idea is

that the government have come out with, i that the government have come outwith, i think have been rushed in. so that's what's causing the problems. but i lived in germany for many years and germany had, conscription and germany had, conscription and the conscription was either into the military for 12 months or into, providing help to the civil side of society for two years. and that worked brilliantly. and it set young people up with a lot of skills on their cv . people up with a lot of skills on their cv. it people up with a lot of skills on their cv . it allowed them to on their cv. it allowed them to prove to employers of the future that they could. they could go out and do a job. it gave them skills for life. it allowed them to make friends for life in an environment that was different to what they got beforehand. so i think there's real mileage in what the prime minister has proposed. and of course, if you're going to make something compulsory, you have to give incentives for people to do it, or you have to give disincentives for people not to do it, and therefore , you know, do it, and therefore, you know, the simple ones, from my perspective would be, you know, don't allow people who are refusing to go into national

service to get benefits and don't allow them to get a student loan. you know, that would incentivise people, therefore, to go to go in and contribute to society. >> yeah, indeed. and alex, you know, i want to know why are so many 18 to 24 year olds, lazy, fatloss and unemployed , to make fatloss and unemployed, to make a statement like that? >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous. you know, lots of young people, whether they're doing apprenticeships, whether they're going to university , they're going to university, let's remember this benefits, you know, let's remember 20 years ago we actually saw a situation where young people could go to university and had minimal tuition fees. could go to university and had minimal tuition fees . under the minimal tuition fees. under the coalition government, the tuition fees went up. and now we see young people that want to get educated and are being almost penalised for it. you know, lots of young people, there's absolutely no data to suggest that young people are sitting at home unemployed . sitting at home unemployed. >> figure. well, there are there's at least 13% of people aged 16 to 24 are unemployed. in fact, there's a load more of them, actually, that are signed off sick as well, which i know a lot of people are very, very dubious about. i mean, there is

record levels of unemployment when it comes to people aged 18 to 24. i mean, it's quite astonishing that those those numbers aren't going to see you're itching to get involved. come on, philip patrick, there's a better incentive for this. >> you know , what you're doing >> you know, what you're doing is you're giving a foundation and you're giving everyone an equal foundation and for them to build on. so those that don't want , don't want to do military want, don't want to do military service, you know, one weekend a month isn't huge, but you're giving people that foundation that they can then build their future life, their future career. and employers can measure them against those that want to go into the military. and it's voluntary to go into the military. the military is having difficulty recruiting a lot of people. get a try before you buy. this is a way of doing it and might suddenly decide that actually, this will give me a good career, will give me the skills that i want to do and get people in. so it's a very reasonable way of recruiting . so reasonable way of recruiting. so but what you're doing is you're giving that constant baseline for everyone. so you haven't got that differential across the country . everyone's getting the country. everyone's getting the same start in life. and that can only be a good thing for youngsters. >> all right i mean alex so you

want you know, youth vote. do you want 16 year olds to be able to vote. do you. yes. so you'd like 16 year olds to be able to vote. all right. taxpayers >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> well okay. all right. how many 16 year olds payload attacks any 16 year old that works is subject to tax. >> so therefore we should be giving them the ability . giving them the ability. >> not if they earn earn below. i think it's about £15,000 yeah >>a yeah >> a nine year old can pay tax. >> a nine year old can pay tax. >> oh, but anyone that earns anyone that's 50 year old that doesn't earn enough money. i mean, i don't understand what the argument here is, right? you know, the government, what they're doing here is they don't have enough people to work in the nhs. they don't have enough people to work in the military. they don't pay them properly. they don't pay them properly. they don't pay them properly. they don't look after them when they come out of it, as we've seen with lots of, you know, military personnel that go, that go homeless. and actually they're deciding, you know, what's the solution? let's force a bunch of 18 year olds that aren't going to vote for the tories anyway to go and do military service or nhs. it's nothing to do with cv enhancement or helping them. they don't care about them. if they cared about them, they'd be helping them with making sure that landlords don't absolutely take them up with rent increases and helping them get in the

housing market. that it's nothing to do with helping them with the cv , you know, with the cv, you know, development. it's absolute nonsense. >> okay, philip, go on, come back to that. >> well, you know, i you we've gone around on so many different subjects that aren't related , it subjects that aren't related, it will give them an ability to have a common baseline of cv. it will give people the ability to have friends for life from, from different areas that will then allow them to have, you know, and those that are in that decided to join the military will get paid. i suspect a lot of those that go into the voluntary sectors will get will get paid as well. but if they don't, then they should get the benefits that enable them and that that will then get them the finances that they need for a penod finances that they need for a period of time to get into the housing ladder and to move forward and help them with their career development. but none of these things that, you know, they they , my other guest has they they, my other guest has turned around and said are related . it's not necessarily related. it's not necessarily just a tory thing. i am, as i've said , i am against national said, i am against national service going into the military ,

service going into the military, but i think there's some legs in this and i base that on the fact that i've seen it for many, many years in other european countries. and actually it works well that is a point. >> i'll give the final word to you on this, alex, if it's good enough for people in sweden and a load of nordic countries, in countries like germany, etc. a load of eu countries, well, why, why, why is it, why is it or too awful for british teens ? awful for british teens? >> it's a completely different situation. you know, in sweden , situation. you know, in sweden, for example, young people get given a lot more support. you know, the nhs or their, their, you know, their the services there are much better. and actually, you know, everyone is basically trying to give. >> are you all take, take sir. sorry. just why are you all take, take, take. why don't you want to do something for your country? >> young people patrick. young people. let me tell you, young people. let me tell you, young people have done a lot for their country. as i mentioned, stayed indoors during covid. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and actually, you know. no, no. but actually, you know, let's be serious about this. you know, the guest makes the point about, you know, they're going to earn enough , you know, to get

to earn enough, you know, to get on the housing ladder. they're not with the starting salary for people in the nhs or the military is definitely not enough. right. young people are fed up being lectured and called lazy . and actually, why is it 18 lazy. and actually, why is it 18 year olds? they need to step up? you know, i know lots of people that are in their mid 30s. why are they not being asked to help the country? >> they haven't done this when they were 18 and they don't have that sense of duty and life. and the thing that's missing in society today is a sense of duty and a sense of contributing to society. as patrick said, it's all take, take, take, give me, give me, give me and not give anything back. i don't take anything back. i don't take anything for free. >> yeah. what are young people taking? you know, they've been giving they've been given tuition fees that are ridiculous. you know, young people are trying to get on in life. you know, they've they've got plenty of career opportunities at the moment. lots of them do apprenticeships. lots of them do apprenticeships. lots of them do apprenticeships. lots of them. i guarantee you if i don't have the data to hand. but there's no way that 18 to 24 year olds are the ones that are taking from the government on benefits. i guarantee you it's the older demographics you know, what about the triple pensions? you know, what about the other

things that cost the government lots of money? what about the wars that we're funding ? you wars that we're funding? you know, and you're saying that young people foundation and there has been for many, many years give that foundation in and you then building a more coherent and a more capable and a society that's got a sense of duty to it. >> that's what it was, a long time ago. we need to get back to that again. >> all right , guys, we asked that again. >> all right, guys, we asked for our head to head. >> we definitely got one. i'm massively, massively appreciate the strength of views on both sides here. i know that i will have held a mirror up to literally the nation's views on this. so thank you very, very much. the ceo of youth fair, alex cairns, there, former senior military intelligence officer philip ingram. who do you agree with? would it be fair for rishi sunak to sanction young people who refuse to take part in national service? andrew harnik says it wouldn't be fair at all. plus, making government departments do more work when they barely function now is a pie in the sky idea. charlie says refusing shouldn't be an option. okay, your verdict is in. oh, here we go. 50% of you agree that it is fair for rishi sunak to sanction young people. 50% of you say it isn't. that is

a first here on on one of these polls i've been waiting for this day and it is now finally come. it's a 5050 split. good stuff . it's a 5050 split. good stuff. coming up. i'll speak to a druid who is furious with just stop oil idiotic attack on one of britain's most precious cultural sites. will he curse the eco mob 7 sites. will he curse the eco mob ? find out shortly. but next, as nigel farage boasts that support for reform uk is exploding amongst gen z voters , follow him down. >> yes, here we go. yes, they're young. they're full of enthusiasm. they're optimistic . enthusiasm. they're optimistic. >> are the establishment again failing to recognise the popularity of the nigel farage movement, or is it a load of hot air? rejoin the eu's richard morley is on next and it's probably

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now coming up after just stop oil spray painted stonehenge earlier this week. and a couple of private jets as well. i'll be joined by a druid, though, who has some very harsh words for eco activists . he words for eco activists. he obviously feels very strongly about stonehenge. be interesting to get his views. but first, nigel farage today declared war on ofcom over the regulator's rules that dictate broadcast does only need to give reform uk 8% of coverage. that's despite some polls putting the party as high as 20. indeed, since he announced his decision to stand the election, farage has received a less than cosy welcome from the usual luvvie media types . media types. >> the following night in

birmingham, we have yet another question time special, much like tonight, but it will be with the green party co—leader adrian ramsay and reform uk's leader nigel farage. and that will be on 8:00. so if you want to be all sort of interesting noises from the audience here, he has said that this is now a matter of national security. >> nigel farage, with his, customary inflammatory language there at a reform uk press conference. >> yeah, i mean sky news chose to, i think describe him. did they as far right. i think they also said it was a humbling experience for him when he was, you know, assaulted by a milkshake in the street. but despite that reform, uk has actually soared in popularity , actually soared in popularity, especially among gen z voters. so these are these are the young people, aren't they? with most recent yougov poll putting the party at 15% among 18 to 24 year olds. now farage is by far the most popular uk politician on the social media site tiktok, with videos like this one

propelling him to a whopping 776,000 followers. i got top of me, so everybody just follow me cause we need a little controversy . controversy. >> eagles i feel so empty without me i said . without me i said. >> and that song by american rapper eminem without me, was released back in 2002. it's now back in the charts . it's okay. back in the charts. it's okay. such is nigel farage popularity. i'm joined now by the deputy leader of rejoined the eu, richard morley . richard, look, richard morley. richard, look, thank you very, very much. i mean, this must be killing you inside to see that nigel farage is actually really popular, especially with young people . especially with young people. >> well, i think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say that he's very popular amongst young people. yes the poll suggests that he has somewhere between 12 and 15% of this generation z behind him. but of course, let's remember that leaves round about 80% who are not behind him. the vast majority of young people,

i'm afraid, are with the labour party because of their policies. they may follow nigel farage, a small percentage of them, but i think that could be more out of amusement than actually support for him. >> he's not just quite an out of touch thing for you to say. >> well, you may think so, but i think that there are lots of reasons why young people will reject nigel farage at the at the ballot box. let's face it, he's no friend to young people, is he, his measures that he wants to adopt, i.e. is he, his measures that he wants to adopt, le. a complete endorsement of brexit, which goes against the young people's wish generally that most young people want to rejoin, they want to have the opportunities to live and work in europe , as they live and work in europe, as they did before, is not exactly in tune with their thinking, the, the zero carbon policy that maybe he's made his main thing is his main thing is that he actually wants to try to protect the future of this country. >> and maybe, richard, maybe

there are an increasing number of young people now in britain who really, really, really do not like the direction of travel in this country. and that's what he's tapping into. >> well, i'm sure they don't like the direction of travel after 14 years of this terrible tory government. of course, they don't like the direction of travel, but that doesn't mean to say they want nigel farage his direction of travel either. certainly they don't want him when it comes to his net zero abandonment ideas . anybody who abandonment ideas. anybody who suggests that it's good for young people, that britain should abandon our drive towards restricting carbon emissions when it's their future that lies on the line much more than ours. young people today have generation z have got to live through the most unimaginable temperature rises. unless we do something. >> why is it, though, richard, that which is nigel farage's big idea is the biggest harm that you could possibly do to young people? but why? why is it. why is it then, richard , that the is it then, richard, that the latest poll shows that reformer

on 20% of the vote and the lib dems, who are the only party who openly come out really and said if you vote for us, it's a it's a way of paving our way back into european membership. are on about 12 or 13. >> but i read today in the in the papers, there's a lot of people suspect that keir starmer's policy is going to lean much more towards europe than what he's saying at the moment. and indeed, i suspect it will do because economic realities will force us to look more towards europe and, yes, readdress the treaty that we've signed with europe over trade, because quite frankly, it doesn't benefit us at all. we've got to go back and rethink it. brexit was extremely badly managed, even you're about to lose your second massive vote. >> richard. i get that. you might not want to admit this on national television, but you were about to lose your second massive vote, aren't you? because you know you've got here nigel farage, mr brexit, standing on the kind of ticket that you've just said there, who is potentially, potentially on course to get double the number

of votes of the only other party they say they want to rejoin the european union. >> yes. but you know that these these opinion polls are indicators of public dissatisfaction rather than actual fact indications of what they're actually going to vote for on the day. i'm sure that when we come and see it reform uk is not going to get the seats that it expects to get. the number of votes are not going to do as badly as everybody thinks they're going to do, and they will remain the opposition . it will remain the opposition. it won't be nigel farage who will be the opposition. it will be the leader of the of the conservative party, whoever that will be. >> okay. yeah. i think in terms of just a pure number of votes, i mean, the way our voting system is here are absolutely. i mean, on on that as well. presumably you're probably in favour of some kind of electoral reform, are you? i don't know whether that's pr or whatever it like, but also you've got nigel farage now standing in this country. if we were to do what the liberal democrats did at the moment, we would be walking back into a european union that i

daresay you would describe as far right. would you ? far right. would you? >> well, i mean, all all countries go through political ups and downs in terms of left and right. yes, there is a current movement in some countries in europe towards the right, and i can see that will maybe may progress to others, but it's not a permanent move. it's a reaction against the crisis that we face at this moment, both in nationally and in terms of the climate change problems that we have. i'm quite certain that this reaction to the illegal migrant crisis, richard, that's what it is, isn't it ? isn't it? >> it's a reaction to the illegal migrant crisis. that's why people voted that way on continental europe, and that's why people really want to vote for nigel farage, isn't it? and i don't know if maybe you want to do that much about the illegal migrant crisis. do you know, i do agree with you. >> there has been an enormous concern amongst the general pubuc concern amongst the general public about the illegal migrants. of course, this has stimulated a great feeling of crisis and therefore stimulated the votes towards the right wing parties who have methods of

deaung parties who have methods of dealing with it, which are perhaps stronger, than the left wing parties. that's quite possible. however, whether or not they can actually solve it is another issue. there has been no successful solution to them because. >> because unfortunately, people, people , people on of people, people, people on of your political persuasion tend to try to do everything they possibly can to scupper that, don't they, richard? that's that's part of the issue, i think. but, look, we are going to have to leave it there, i'm afraid, as richard morley there is the deputy leader of rejoin the eu coming up, i'll bring you exclusive reaction to the first of gb news vote. 2024, the leader's interview with sir keir starmer. plus tv presenter and conservationist chris packham has sent a message to a superstar singer but sent a very symbolic gesture to millions of people by saying that she was going to stop using those jets. yeah, and he got completely ignored. i'll reveal all later. but next member of the druid grade and spiritual healer, adrian rook, who is furious with just stop oil for their

stonehenge attack. he joins me.

welcome back to patrick christys. tonight now, thousands flocked to stonehenge in the early hours of this morning to celebrate the summer solstice. that celebration comes just days after two activists from just stop oil were arrested for spraying orange paint over the neolithic structures at stonehenge. well, i'm very pleased to say i'm joined now by a member of the druid grade and a member of the druid grade and a spiritual healer, adrian rook. thank you very much, adrian. tremendous to have you on the show. how do you feel about what just stop oil did ? just stop oil did? >> i, i think it was a somewhat ill thought out stunt. so childish and risked permanent damage to one of our most sacred monuments. just stop oil have obviously got a relevant point that a lot of, the druidic

ideology would agree with, the world is in trouble. we need to rethink how we relate to the planet. but this kind of action causes more people to pull away from support, of , of, you know, from support, of, of, you know, the work to, to deal with climate change, which then bnngs climate change, which then brings in, i'm afraid. >> well, can you just add can you educate me a little bit on what stonehenge means to the druids? because you know, if just stop oil had done that to a church or a mosque or a synagogue or something, you know, people would be saying, oh, it's a bit racist or it's bang out of order. but, i mean, how important is stonehenge to you? >> well, stonehenge is very important. it's important to all, people of, druidic or pagan based faith . it's our greatest based faith. it's our greatest ancient temple . that said, ancient temple. that said, richard, it's not the only temple in the uk. and people celebrated solstice last night in different stone circles. all

the way across the land and on hilltops and different venues, stonehenge has a particular significance. it's in our it's in our subconscious . it's there, in our subconscious. it's there, it's magnificent. and of course, you know, it links us back to a past . it's a you know, it links us back to a past. it's a time you know, it links us back to a past . it's a time clock. it past. it's a time clock. it bnngsin past. it's a time clock. it brings in the solstice marks the wheel of the year. and people were the people i've spoken to were the people i've spoken to were genuinely upset and a lot of those people would be, i think certainly on the side of the ideology around climate change and that something has to be done. we can't ignore it and but should, should. >> yeah. i mean , i mean, what, >> yeah. i mean, i mean, what, what what would your message be? what is the kind of druid message to, to just stop oil now really . really. >> well, they need to rethink some of their , their ways of

some of their, their ways of trying to draw attention to what is a global crisis, and replace plan their, protests . that plan their, protests. that actually brings the general pubuc actually brings the general public behind them rather than isolates them and pushes them away , i mean, i don't know, are away, i mean, i don't know, are things like curses a thing in the druid grade? >> no , no, we don't do things >> no, no, we don't do things like that. druid is a nature based spiritual tradition, it encourages us to foster a relationship with the land and deep , more relationship with the deep, more relationship with the land. we come from the land in way. >> just stop oil of literally attacked the most . well, one of attacked the most. well, one of the most important sites to a group of people who conceivably, on paper would would be the most sympathetic to just stop oil they have. >> you're right. you're spot on. and so really, they've shot themselves in the foot, so it's very counterproductive ,

very counterproductive, unfortunately for them. but it is what it is . and thankfully is what it is. and thankfully there wasn't any permanent damage done to the stones. if there had been, it would have been a bigger tragedy . but, you been a bigger tragedy. but, you know, from a from a politically sensible point of view, it's gone down like a lead balloon. really, well, i'm not surprised. and, can i just ask you and we are going to have to be quite quick on this. who made stonehenge? >> well, stonehenge was made, on they estimate 5000 years ago. those varying , degrees of those varying, degrees of consensus as to whether it's not older. but it was made by our ancestors, you know , post, post ancestors, you know, post, post christian 3000 years before. we don't know if it was the celts , don't know if it was the celts, the indigenous people that were here before probably the indigenous people that lived there before. and it was a huge emotional, and spiritual

significance to those people. if you think of the work that's gone into creating something like that , it's massive. like that, it's massive. >> and i love i love all the stuff about about stonehenge and everything. i absolutely gripped by it and all the theories behind it and everything. but can i just say a massive thank you, adrian. all the best. you look after yourself. take care adrian . rook. there is a druid adrian. rook. there is a druid spiritual leader coming up. i'm going to be speaking to the 1922 committee chair, sir graham brady. stay tuned for that . brady. stay tuned for that. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. this weekend will be a little bit cloudier than the week has been, but it's still going to be warm. but next week will be even warmer for the time being though, we've got a few weather fronts still moving in from the west. that's going to introduce quite a lot of cloud from western areas, but also some

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i'm very proud to sit, in front of the union jack. >> is he really that patriotic? sir keir starmer has answered gb news viewers questions. we'll have reaction from sir graham brady, the former chair of the 1922 committee. also . he's nigel 1922 committee. also. he's nigel farage right that the tories are morally bankrupt. >> plus he's the voice of palestine. hello, hello . palestine. hello, hello. >> sectarian politics in action as four tories sign a hindu manifesto and could send a very symbolic gesture to millions of people by saying that she was to stop using those jead . i reveal stop using those jead. i reveal which global superstar has made chris packham look like an absolute idiot. i'll bring you the first of tomorrow's front pages with my press pack. former bbc and itv chief political correspondent john sergeant, former apprentice starjoana former apprentice star joana jaflue former apprentice star joana jarjue and political commentator

alex armstrong. oh yeah, and life is all about balance, isn't it? oh hey . is it ? oh yeah. and it? oh hey. is it? oh yeah. and listen to what nigel farage had to say about the war in ukraine. >> we've provoked this war. it's you know, of course it's his fault. >> he's used. what? but we provoked the invasion of ukraine. >> he also had some rather interesting words to say about our king. get ready, britain. here we go . here we go. do you trust a man who takes the knee. do you trust a man who takes the knee . next? knee. next? >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. labour leader sir keir starmer has urged rishi

sunak to show some leadership amid allegations of tory betting on the timing of the general election . four people are being election. four people are being investigated by the gambling commission , including laura commission, including laura saunders, the wife of the tories campaign director craig williams. another conservative candidate has also admitted to an error of judgement after placing a bet on when the election would take place. prime minister rishi sunak says any lawbreakers will be booted out of the party. speaking on gb news, the labour leader sir keir starmer says it shows everything thatis starmer says it shows everything that is wrong with the tory party >> when they went to him, i think he should come clean and say who knew he should take immediate action against those that are being investigated? >> suspend his candidate. if they're my candidate , i'd have they're my candidate, i'd have had them out the door without their feet touching the ground and show some leadership on this. the first instinct of some of those tories in relation to a general election is not what's good for the country, but how quickly can it get to the bookies and make myself some money? i mean, it tells you

everything that's wrong with 14 years of chaos and decline . years of chaos and decline. >> meanwhile, nigel farage has suggested the west provoked russia's invasion of ukraine by expanding nato after missing out on last night's bbc question time leaders special. the reform leader has taken part in an interview with bbc's nick robinson. >> we provoked this war. it's you know, of course it's his fault. he's used what? but we provoked . i'm the only person in provoked. i'm the only person in british politics that predicted what would happen. and of course, everyone said i was a panah course, everyone said i was a pariah for daring to suggest it. george robertson, former labour cabinet minister who went on to become the secretary—general of nato, has in the last couple of weeks said the war is a direct result of eu expansion . result of eu expansion. >> now, boris johnson has called on sir keir starmer to take back his claim that jeremy corbyn would have made a better prime minister than him. sir keir was facing a grilling from members of the public at last night's bbc question time leaders special in york. the ex—prime

minister, mrjohnson, special in york. the ex—prime minister, mr johnson, wrote special in york. the ex—prime minister, mrjohnson, wrote in his daily mail column that sir keir s original claim was utterly terrifying. mr johnson said he must take it back, going on to say you can't back corbyn and back ukraine at the same time . in other news, in devon , a time. in other news, in devon, a schoolboy has been found guilty of attempted murder at exeter crown court. the boy, who can't be named for legal reasons , be named for legal reasons, attacked two sleeping students and a teacher with hammers at blundell's school in tiverton. the 16 year old admitted assaulting the two boys and the housemaster, but claimed he was sleepwalking and two women have been charged with criminal damage. afterjust been charged with criminal damage. after just stop been charged with criminal damage. afterjust stop oil damage. after just stop oil activists sprayed private jets with orange paint at stansted airport, 28 year old jennifer kowalski and 22 year old cole mcdonald are both due to appear at chelmsford magistrates court tomorrow . they're alleged to tomorrow. they're alleged to have caused more than £5,000 worth of damage in the incident yesterday . and for the latest yesterday. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts

by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now it's back to . patrick. >> yes. well, a little bit later on we're going to be picking apart some of nigel farage comments, especially when it came to putin and also our king as well. but a little earlier, gb news political editor christopher hope sat down with the man hoping to be prime minister in two weeks time. that is, of course, the leader of the labour party, sir keir starmer. sir keir was answering the questions that you sent in and do keep them coming because we're going to be doing many more interviews with the other party leaders. well, christopher hope asked the labour leader if he could guarantee that he would stop the small boats. now, bear in mind this interview came just after keir starmer had been gazumped by another journalist who said to him, what are you going to do with the bibby stockholm? what are you going to do with the bibby stockholm? and he couldn't answer it. so here's what he had to say to christopher .

christopher. >> look, we want to get those numbers down. nobody but nobody should be making that journey, and the way to do that is to tackle the gangs that are running this vile trade. so we want to set up border security command, a new command, an elite command, bringing together all of our police and law enforcement , which will have new enforcement, which will have new powers, counter—terrorism powers to smash . to smash. >> these gangs don't want to rock betting too much, but will you bet me a pint of beer in year one? you'll bring down the crossings . crossings. >> chris. >> chris. >> betting in politics not allowed anymore. >> very, very bad idea . >> very, very bad idea. >> very, very bad idea. >> it doesn't answer the question, does it? it just does not answer the question. then mr starmer was asked about previous comments about private health care and the nhs pay for private health care to effectively jump the waiting list. >> yes. i wouldn't , i actually >> yes. i wouldn't, i actually had an operation on my knee some years ago. i waited my turn, but the idea of the prime minister of the united kingdom, who is responsible for bringing waiting lists down. yes, then saying to the public. but as far as i'm concerned, i'm going to jump the queue. >> but you can afford to. most people on a good wage do afford it and pay for it.

>> if i, you know, elected him to serve as prime minister. my job is to bring those waiting lists down, and i'm not going to at the same time say, but for me, i'm going to jump the queue. that would . interesting. so he's that would. interesting. so he's kind of doubling down on that, though. there was quite a funny bit there where christopher said to him, well, what about members of your cabinet then? and he said, well , of your cabinet then? and he said, well, i'm not ideological about this, or maybe you are. but anyway , mr starmer didn't but anyway, mr starmer didn't seem so keen to repeat the eye raising claim, though, from last night that jeremy corbyn would have been a better prime minister than boris johnson. >> last election we had a very poor choice in 2019 and what transpired was obviously jeremy corbyn got rejected by the electorate, not the right person and we've expelled him now from the labour party. so that's how far we've changed the labour party. borisjohnson far we've changed the labour party. boris johnson was elected in as prime minister and a number of years later was booted out of parliament for breaking the rules. that's why i've been so determined to change the labour party to always say

country first, party second. >> okay . and there's an >> okay. and there's an interesting question here. and this is one thing that i'm going to lead off on with the panel actually, about whether or not sir keir starmer is actually that patriotic. okay. he was asked directly whether or not he thought he was more patriotic than nigel farage. >> the very reason i came into politics is to improve our country and improve the lives of millions of people in our country. i'm very proud of our country. i'm very proud of our country . i'm very proud to sit, country. i'm very proud to sit, you know, in front of the union jack.i you know, in front of the union jack. i did it when i represented our country as chief prosecutor . but the passion in prosecutor. but the passion in me, yes , it is. perhaps a quiet me, yes, it is. perhaps a quiet passion is to improve this country , to genuinely take it country, to genuinely take it forward. i think most people in this country are reasonable, tolerant, live and let live. they want them. they want to get on themselves. they want their family to get on. they want their community to get on, and they want the country to get on. and that's what drives me and alex. >> if he's that patriotic, why did he take his poppy off when he was addressing the british

muslim community? >> well, exactly. patrick, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. he's he appeals to whoever he is in front of. that's what he does. and the public aren't stupid. i mean, farage made a very big point about this, and it got a massive round of applause and did very well online as well afterwards, because he's absolutely right. keir starmer self describes himself as a shy patriot, whatever that means. and he's only putting all these union jacks on his leaflets and on his campaign and his manifesto, because he's trying to appeal to tory voters and to working class people who are patriotic. but we know deep down, you know, the man who backed jeremy corbyn is not a patriot . and, as you said, patriot. and, as you said, taking the poppy off when he shouldn't have done that just to appeal to muslim voters is completely wrong. >> okay . johanna, do you think >> okay. johanna, do you think he's patriotic? >> i think he's patriotic , >> i think he's patriotic, absolutely. and i think that he's kind of put his money where his mouth, where his mouth is. even the right phrase. it is , if even the right phrase. it is, if you look at recently what rishi sunak's gone through, coming back early in the d—day celebrations and things like that, keir starmer actually stuck around. so i want to judge people based on their actual

actions. and rishi sunak has been getting away with saying that he's a patriot for so long when he's talking about, you know, immigration and when it suits him because it knows he knows that it goes with, the line that the party, conservative party usually use . conservative party usually use. but keir starmer has actually done it. and part of being a patriot, i think , is patriot, i think, is acknowledging that we live in a multicultural society and also acknowledging different communities. i'm not saying that it's right. if you did take off his poppy, but things like taking the knee, i think has been completely politicised and i understand they politicise it . i understand they politicise it. with respect to publish a manifesto, black lives matter. well, i understand that people have problems with the black lives matter movement for certain things. i disagree with certain things. i disagree with certain things, but really it's about, you know, the gesture that he was trying to make about what is actually going on when it comes to race relations. and i don't think that he should be, you know, reprimanded for that here. >> do you think he's more patriotic, john nigel farage or sukh starmer? >> i think it's a silly question, you know, people go on about, are you patriotic? well, i mean, in certain circumstances people are amazingly patriotic, but the best ones, i suppose.

don't go on about it, doctor johnson . i'm a great fan of johnson. i'm a great fan of doctor johnson. johnson. i'm a great fan of doctorjohnson. i was once doctor johnson. i was once president of the johnson society, so i send a lot of what he said in one of his famous phrases were, was patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel , right. and the idea that, you know, you go around saying, well, i've got a union jack here, i'm patriotic. it's just silly. we all know what we like about our country. people who are successful in britain, like keir starmer, know perfectly well their whole career is based upon our system, where we get on and the idea that he's not all of it. >> i mean, there was that time he was representing foreign terror groups in a foreign court. >> no, no, no. >>— >> no, no, no. >> but yes, yes, yes. >>— >> but yes, yes, yes. >> no lawyer, no lawyers. lawyers have a duty. no, he didn't have a duty to do it at that point. >> actually, john. no, he didn't have lawyers. >> no. hold on a moment. lawyers. one of their jobs. it's like being a journalist. and you're asking the right questions to people you don't like. it's one of those things you might have to do. but the idea that you didn't have to do it, the idea that. hold on a moment, the idea that somehow

keir starmer is anti—british or something or or it is so beyond the chances , it's completely absurd. >> i mean, it's almost as if people think you've got to be proactive about, all right, i'm just going to was it on? >> because one of the other things that i think is becoming increasingly obvious at the moment is that keir starmer very rarely gives you a straight answer. now, earlier on in the day, he was asked directly, what are you going to do about the bibby stockholm barge? and he was asked about that because previously he some members of his cabinet had said they wanted to abolish the barge. they didn't want the barge. so he started by prattling on and saying, well, look , you know, saying, well, look, you know, the barge is a visible symbol of our borders are broken. fine. what are you going to do with the barge? will you remove the barge? couldn't answer it at all. and there he was. back. just a pint. will boat crossings come down? in the first year of a labour government? and he didn't even take that bet. what didn't even take that bet. what did he take from that? >> well, i think it's quite telling, isn't it, that he can't actually it doesn't have a policy to address these issues . policy to address these issues. we ask him how he's going to stop the boats. he says smash the gangs. it's like, you know,

it's like, this is nonsense. keir starmer, this is absolute rubbish because there's no actual detail on how he's going to do this commando force. it already exists. okay. so what new what's new? and they don't have the answers. but i think we all know what the answer is and why they don't have the answers, patrick, is because they don't really want to address this problem. well, there is something, but they're not going to address it, are they? something, but they're not going to address it , are they? they to address it, are they? they don't. they don't have any political will to do so. the party, the labour party itself doesn't like the topic of immigration. it never has done . immigration. it never has done. and it will again lean to the left when it gets into government, and it will it freely. >> why are you saying that? >> why are you saying that? >> but what policy is that? joanna? what's the policy you're talking about, tackling the criminal gangs and you're saying, what's changed? what's changed is that they want to up the ante and actually get intelligence services. we've talked about it before on this show. talk about we've talked about getting the intelligence services involved, which does up the ante. and he's talking about james bond. >> rubbish going to go and fight terrorists in north africa. i mean come off it. >> what he's saying is that the current situation that we've got with border force clearly isn't enough. and he has headed organisations where he's gone after terrorists and succeeded.

so if you can go after actual threats like terrorists, then you can do it with the criminals. >> so you're telling me you're you're the labour party is going to send military specialists out to send military specialists out to go and destroy these gangs somehow with violence, not necessarily send them out. >> obviously, you'll see more of the detail when that comes out, but it's about having an actual detailed. >> but why is there no detail on how? joanna, this is the general election. there should be the detail. >> where is it? come on, do you really think he's going to sit on national television and say, this is what m15 or mi6, why not? >> that's what the job is because he's going to be prime minister. >> one thing. >> one thing. >> operation one one thing, that nonsense, one thing that is happening though, one thing that is happening, we know it's about to happen. we revealed it on this show, and it's rare that we are proved right immediately , are proved right immediately, but we were actually because we had the record day, the day after the french are going to be taken off the beaches because they're going to go and police they're going to go and police the olympics . and also human the olympics. and also human traffickers are now fast tracking people through continental europe because europe voted to the right in some parts of it. and they can peddle this fear that they're going to get deported. so you

need to get to britain now, okay. which is going to mean that more people are going to end up coming and you could end up with issues like what we've got. here is a clip of the bibby stockholm barge where is keir starmers labour government going to put all of the people, by the way, 90,000 people already on a watch list or on a waiting list, i should say asylum seeker waiting list, that under the current policy would never be allowed to claim asylum in this country , but under labour will country, but under labour will be allowed to claim asylum. so you're going to need a bigger barge. so, keir, aren't you? however we can hear from him now. >> what would you do with the bibby stockholm and the asylum seekers on board if you're prime minister? >> well, the thing we need to do in relation to asylum seekers is to make sure that we stop people climbing into boats on the northern coast. >> what would you do with the barge that's moored off portland , currently housing a couple of hundred asylum seekers? what would you do with that? >> that is evidence of the failure of the government. they are using barges. they're using hotels. it's costing the taxpayer. absolutely. >> would you get rid of it? we cannot go online. would you get rid of the barge at the moment?

>> what's happening is the as i say, i don't actually immediately know off the top of my head who that reporter was, but they've done a stellar job. but they've done a stellarjob. >> they're quite enjoyed the level of sass of would you get rid of the barge that? would you get rid of the barge? but the barge, you know, bar, the bar. but yeah, what about the barge? john >> it's tricky, there's no doubt about that, no, i mean, there really there's very little they can say that hasn't either been tried and already failed. there are real problems about how how you can't get better co—operation in europe. that's one of the key points i mean, goodness knows the french are now in such a shambles politically . but if they could politically. but if they could sort themselves out, there might be a government in france where you could say, now look, hold on a moment. these people who are appear to be claiming asylum in britain have gone through your country. there comes a point where it really this has got to be resolved. >> we're going to get records after record day after record day in the channel. this is predicted to happen. i see no reason why it will not happen. that could be literally keir starmer's welcome into downing street, a string of record days

and then you've got the idea now that we will have 90,000 more people on asylum backlog less. he's saying, oh, we're going to build 1.5 million new new homes, etc. well, the point is . etc. well, the point is. >> barges when he becomes prime minister, i don't know when he becomes prime minister this is the point. he will see the list of things he's got to solve. there are an awful lot of them and he will realise this is not something he can do simply, but the responsibility will be his. that's the difference . that's the difference. >> oh, look, coming up, coming up, coming up as the least for tory candidates have signed the hindu manifesto that demands easier immigration for persons of indian origin and hindu priests. is sectarian politics on the rise in the uk? >> we will debate that plus could send a very symbolic gesture to millions of people by saying that she was going to stop using those jet. >> i'm not sure he realises it, but chris packham has just mugged himself off big time. and next i will be joined by the former chair of the 1922 committee, sir graham brady. so that should be quite good. i'll

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soon. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight coming up, are we bringing you tomorrow's front pages? there has been a massive intervention in this general election from jk rowling . by the election from jk rowling. by the way, can you guess which side she's come down on? gb news, though, did hold its first vote, 2020, for the leader's interview with sir keir starmer and i'm

just going to remind you of one of the things he said, which is about working people and whether or not he'd lift income tax thresholds . thresholds. >> working people are people who work for a living. they pay their national insurance , they their national insurance, they pay their national insurance, they pay their income tax. now that will be many millions of people who don't have very much in savings. it now would actually cover quite a lot of people who do have savings income tax thresholds. >> will you lift them? the tories say they'll lift them after 2028 and stop nurses and teachers paying a higher rate of tax . will you do the same? tax. will you do the same? >> well, i do want to bring those taxes down, but i'm not going to make promises that are unfunded . unfunded. >> well, i'm very pleased to say i'm joined now by sir graham brady. sir graham, we've got quite a lot to get through tonight but i will start with that. thank you forjoining us that. thank you for joining us down the line. do you think it's fair for the conservatives to be warning about labour's tax issues when we have had the highest tax burden since world war two? >> yes, i think it is. and i

think it's important that we warn about it. >> i think we also have to recognise we have overseen a penod recognise we have overseen a period of a significant rise in taxation, and that's been very largely because of some big external shocks , but also, as external shocks, but also, as you will know, patrick, i was very strongly opposed to the extreme covid lockdown policy. i think that was a huge mistake. it cost the country a vast amount of money, but we should also be pointing out that whatever it costs, the country . whatever it costs, the country. when boris johnson locked down repeatedly, keir starmer always wanted to lock down sooner for longer and more strongly, and the country would be in a massively worse position had keir starmer had been responsible for policy through that period. so there are reasons why we've got the public finances and the state they are at the moment, there are debates we can have about how we got there and whether we should have beenin there and whether we should have been in the same place. but it's also very, very obvious that the

labour party and keir starmer would have made it worse . would have made it worse. >> so do you think sir keir starmer is lying then, when he says that , you know, taxes, says that, you know, taxes, certain types, they're not going to go up for working people. do you think he is actually just lying ? lying? >> i think he's being very, selective in his choice of words and his definitions . and it was and his definitions. and it was quite interesting, i thought the way he defined working people . way he defined working people. and i'm old enough to have got involved in the conservative party. when margaret thatcher was leader. the great thing about the thatcher revolution that was going on was that she understood that it's actually a point of principle that people should get to keep more of the money that they earn , and that money that they earn, and that should be a driving force. and it's not about picking particular segments of the population . it should be population. it should be something we all want to do for everybody to make sure that they don't end up paying more than half of what they earn in tax, which so many people now do. and, you know , interestingly, and, you know, interestingly, i'm deputy chairman of the centre for policy studies. we

did some polling a few years ago and it came out with very, very strong evidence. the whole of the british public, whatever their income level, whatever their income level, whatever their age, there's a very strong feeling that the state shouldn't be taking more than half of what you earn, however wealthy you are. and you know, it's just a bafic are. and you know, it's just a basic fairness. i think that people respond to . people respond to. >> yeah, i think that's quite hard to disagree with that. certainly when it comes to the amount of tax that people could be paying and look, so when it comes to the a scandal that i must say is bizarrely embroiled the conservative party is that thatis the conservative party is that that is a betting scandal. all right. so nigel farage has well he said that you're morally bankrupt , not you personally, bankrupt, not you personally, but the party suggesting that you're like a dodgy tenant who, when he knows he's being evicted, takes the light bulb and the toilet seat with him. how do you respond to that? well, i, nigel, for a long time, and he's got a very good, creative turn of phrase, certainly. >> but, i mean, i, i don't know

the detail of all of the people who've been embroiled in bets on the general election . the only the general election. the only one of them i know reasonably well is craig williams, the prime minister's pps up until the election. and you know, i think he's he's admitted he made an error of judgement . but i an error of judgement. but i think perversely, actually, the thing is that i suspect he wouldn't have done it if he knew the date of the general election. i think that he will have seen some things going on. he will have thought, oh, lots of people are talking about the autumn, and he thought, oh yeah, i'm not so sure. so, you know, of course he'd bet on a july election, not on a 4th of july election. and, you know, i didn't know the date of the election. i thought it was going to be in the autumn. i'd been advising that it should be in november or october. and then didn't know until, about four hours before it was announced that it was going to be the 4th of july, but obviously , if you of july, but obviously, if you knew the date of the election, it would be very, very seriously wrong to place a bet on it, i

think if you just think. well, i haven't been told, i don't know, it was an error of judgement. and of course, i think from memory , i think craig put £100 memory, i think craig put £100 on at 5 to 1. you know, i think that. well, i think that's one of the, one of the more bizarre aspects to it actually, which is that, you know, it doesn't pay the mortgage off, does it? >> the kind of amounts that were being bet, which i find all the more astonishing, maybe for it actually happening at all. we obviously will have to wait and see the full outcome of any investigation, but it's been revealed today, though, by gb news reporter charlie peters. apparently several tory candidates have signed a hindu manifesto that campaigns for looser immigration rules for elderly hindus and religious workers. the manifesto calls for those who commit microaggressions against hindus to face specific prosecution as an anti hindu hate or hindu phobia , apparently, is this not phobia, apparently, is this not a rise or an acceptance of sectarian politics? do you think ? >> 7. >>i ? >> i think 7_ >> i think i've 7 >> i think i've been ? >> i think i've been a 7 >> i think i've been a candidate seven times and been elected

seven times and been elected seven times. you get as a candidate a huge amount of stuff sent to you by different interest groups. i think you need to be pretty careful about what you sign up to and what you commit to, and sometimes people make mistakes. i haven't seen the hindu manifesto though, but i think, it is something you should be very cautious about, especially if you're making commitments that seem as though they might apply to some people and not others, and certainly i think there can be a very strong case for saying that people , case for saying that people, might want to bring elderly relatives into the country, especially if they're able to provide for them and provide for their health care and their care and later life, but obviously that should apply regardless of what your religion is, i think the other point that i picked up, i think listening to an earlier report on it, was that it applied to hindu priests, and

i thought it might be a perfectly reasonable point. i don't know what the number of hindu priests in the country is at the moment, and how many more might be wanted to, minister to the hindu population , i think i the hindu population, i think i think if i'm if i'm being completely fair, if i were sitting here now and, four members of the labour party had signed up openly to, you know, a muslim group's demands, i think i think i think we would probably be hammering them for that a bit. >> and i do wonder whether or not you think it is acceptable for conservative mps seriously to be doing that kind of thing. >> what what i said is, i think it's a good idea to be even handed. >> and, you know, if you're going to say this for hindu people , you've got to say it for people, you've got to say it for muslim people, you've got to say it for jewish people. muslim people, you've got to say it forjewish people. you've got it for jewish people. you've got to say it for any other race or religion that has a significant population here. and, you know, i think, as long as people have an even handed position, then that's fine. they can be judged on the on that position and

whether it's consistent with other things they're saying, such as the need to control, numbers coming into the country. well that's, that's exactly it, because the implication is if you say if you are, if you play that out to its natural conclusion, which is you're consistent to every religion, then presumably the policy is more immigration. >> but finally, though, the word on the street, i'm not entirely sure exactly which street, but the word on the street is that dame priti patel could be in the front running to replace rishi sunak , if indeed rishi sunak sunak, if indeed rishi sunak does lose the election . the does lose the election. the shackles are off from you now, sir graham, you can rest easy. i believe that you're. you've got a lot of things planned after your your you're moving on from a long and esteemed political career, so come on then. should priti patel take over from rishi sunak? >> well, as an old friend and, you know, i'm delighted to see that she's, in any contest. >> that's great, there may be other great people. i very much hope that rishi is going to win. and one of the things i would stress the time i've spent out,

here in altrincham on the doorstep with our excellent candidate, oliver carroll, we're a good reaction. it's certainly not consistent with the polls and i'm hearing that from a lot of other people. so i'm more positive than the media and the people reading the polls, would be, but if we do end up with a leadership election , i think leadership election, i think it's great. we're going to have a good choice of candidates. and pretty certainly would be amongst them, he's a he's a master at the you could see why you, you were in the game for so long. so graham so all right. well you would you be your favourite though . favourite though. >> who else might be in the, in the running . the running. >> my favourite is that but i, but i am being told that we are out of time but look anyway and also say hello to the people of altrincham for me as well because i'm from near that neck of the woods originally, so take care. >> that's sir graham brady there. thank you very, very much, all right now coming up, yes. we were mentioning it a bit there were we were saying the hindu manifesto, lightly

inspired, by the muslim vote as well. should we be more concerned about the rise of sectarian politics? we're going to be having a little chat about whether or not multiculturalism really is working in britain. plus, yes, life is all about balance, isn't it ? they but balance, isn't it? they but next, i'll bring you the very first look at tomorrow's newspaper pages. there has been astonishing intervention from none other than jk rowling.

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. and it is time to bring you tomorrow's front pages, which i have right here. so let's do it . there are some let's do it. there are some really good ones here, that is the daily mail, which is farage. the west provoked putin, they've also got a lovely snap there of kate. magical holiday picture. things are getting better. it's william and the kids and let's move it on. so we've got , william and the kids and let's move it on. so we've got, i'm just going to tell you what's on the front of the times,

actually, because this is this is the big one that we're going to be discussing. jk rowling has intervened now in this election. she said that labour has turned its back on women, and they've splashed with it on the front . splashed with it on the front. the author says that she would struggle to vote for starmer doesn't trust his judgement. i'll just read you a little bit about this because we're going to be dwelling on it anyway. but she says as long as labour remains dismissive and often offensive towards women fighting to retain the rights their foremothers thought were won for all time, i'll struggle to support them. the women in, who wouldn't be quiet didn't leave labouh wouldn't be quiet didn't leave labour, labour abandoned them , labour, labour abandoned them, she's saying. i mean, there's strong stuff in here is a massive intervention for jk rowling that, to be honest with you, a couple of weeks ago in this general election campaign, we'll go into that in a bit more detail as we're on to another couple of the papers, though for now. so, i've got here a copy of the mirror, which is stephen killer's freedom bid, stephen lawrence killer david norris has appued lawrence killer david norris has applied to be freed as his minimum 14 year term has ended. i'm going to go to the i national trust challenges uk

leaders to save britain's rivers, nation's biggest conservation charity , signs up conservation charity, signs up to the i's manifesto. quite self—important , isn't it, for a self—important, isn't it, for a newspaper to publish his own manifesto? all right. okay, i'm gonna whisk you over to my panel gonna whisk you over to my panel. now. i've obviously got john, sergeant. i've got joana jaflue john, sergeant. i've got joana jarjue as well. and alex armstrong and i, i as a woman. i'll start with you, joanna. what do you make of jk rowling accusing keir starmer of abandoning women and saying, i'm just trying to find other quotes here from her in all of this, really, talking about how, that he doesn't know whether a woman's got a, you know , got a woman's got a, you know, got a penis or not. talking about rosie duffield, who was a labour mp who was absolutely hammered really over this. and rosie has received literally no support from starmer over the threats and abuse. some of which originated from within the labour party itself and has had a severe, measurable impact on her life. what do you think of jk rowling's intervention? >> well, i mean, jk rowling obviously has been so vocal about this for so long and she's going to take this as a big

opportunity. obviously, she's on the front page for a reason , but the front page for a reason, but i think that going, you know, going against keir starmer on this is, is slightly unfair. and i think that he actually explained his standpoint a bit, on question time the other day when he said that what he disagreed with was the way that, rosie duffield actually the remarks that she actually made , remarks that she actually made, because it's quite dangerous to say certain things and you've got to kind of acknowledge, especially when we're talking about these type of things as politicians, to respect. >> i'm not entirely sure of the figure on this, but i it seems to be ringing a bell to me that about 52 or 54% of the british population, i think, are female . population, i think, are female. i think that's about right. that's about right. what needs to be shouted down on that? either way, it's a huge voter base. and if jk rowling splashed all over the front of the times tomorrow morning, it lands on doorsteps all around the country. there are a lot of women who feel like this . women who feel like this. >> yeah, but we've got five years of this, haven't we? so we've got five years to look forward to of keir starmer, the labour party tearing themselves apart on whether they agree a man is a man and a woman is a woman. it's totally bonkers. the

treatment of rosie duffield by the labour party is abysmal. so it's not received any support. even after reaching out to keir starmer, she received no support, which says a lot about his character. this is a man who , you know, styles himself as changing the labour party, but he's only changed it where he feels it matters and he's only changed his opinion on whether a man is a man and a woman as a woman. because tony blair's changed his opinion. it's quite telling, isn't it? >> it's nothing. >> it's nothing. >> of course it is. >>— >> of course it is. >> is it? how big, how big? how damaging is this for sir keir starmer? you've got probably the most famous author in the world, i think, saying that he's got poor judgement. >> no, i poorjudgement. >> no, i think i mean , obviously >> no, i think i mean, obviously he won't be pleased with that. i think the, the trans row, i think the, the trans row, i think we've now i think we have now passed peak trans. i think there's a there was a time seemed to be rallying about all the time and it got absolutely nowhere. we're now back to where we thought we were, which is that there are men and men and women and women, and some people feel uncomfortable with the gender they're in. interesting. because that's really that has

now been pretty well. wait a minute. that is now pretty well been agreed . and for most been agreed. and for most people, yeah, it has. it's just intervene here because this is important. >> i will come back to what you think. >> you think nobody agrees with that. well, well, no. >> most people agree with just said labour. labour have said i agree. i agree with you that a man is a man or a woman. yeah, i agree with you. i agree with you. >> joanna doesn't though. no, she doesn't. >> i've not had a brain transplant and change. one thing i'm trying to say is that under labour now, they're going to make it easier for people over the age of 18. so it's not kids. we'll talk about it over the age of 18 to legally change their gendeh of 18 to legally change their gender, which will mean more men in women's changing rooms. john. that's an issue. >> well, you know, that's a pessimistic view. i take a more optimistic view and a feeling that this crazy , this that this crazy, this pessimistic, that's bonkers, i know, but this crazy argument, which has gone on now for a couple of 2 or 3 years, i hope, is now just dying down overnight thing. >> and i think that that's what we need. >> some people have loved so enjoyed it and got so entrenched in the argument they can't

imagine just thinking about other things. but it's just not one of those arguments that you end up with the blair position, the position that you have. patrick and i have , and i think patrick and i have, and i think alex has, i do, and i'm not so sure. so very much so . yeah. sure. so very much so. yeah. >> look go on. so just one for more on this before we get to a bit of farage. i mean, i can see this having quite a big impact on the female vote. alex. do you think it would. >> yeah. look i mean she has been a feminist, a women's rights campaigner for a very, very long time. and she's traditionally been very vocal about her support for the labour party. so, so a lot of people and a lot of women who follow her across the country are going to be looking at their vote going, actually, you know, she's someone i listen to. she's someone i listen to. she's someone who campaigns quite heavily on women's rights. >> i don't have that much of an impact because you can be a feminist and also be pro—trans. so i don't think that it's, oh, if you're just a feminist and if you come from that camp, you're going to believe in whatever jk rowling says, okay. >> all right. now on to reform uk because nigel farage was grilled by nick robinson earlier on and he was asked this

question about his stance on putin. okay, let's have a listen i >> -- >> we've provoked this war. it's you know, of course it's his fault. he's used what? but we provoked the invasion of ukraine. and very interestingly, once again, ten years ago when i predicted this. by the way, i'm the only person in british politics that predicted what would happen . and of course, would happen. and of course, everyone said i was a pariah for danng everyone said i was a pariah for daring to suggest it. george robertson, former labour cabinet minister who went on to become the secretary general of nato , the secretary general of nato, has in the last couple of weeks said the war is a direct result of eu expansion . of eu expansion. >> is that an outrageous thing to say? >> no, he is absolutely right and i want to be really clear about this, because there's people online who call me a putin sympathiser , call farage putin sympathiser, call farage putin sympathiser, call farage putin sympathiser, call farage putin sympathiser, because the headune putin sympathiser, because the headline has been taken out of context by what the bbc and others and the daily mail are doing today. of course they're attacking farage. look, this is not unprecedented . when, when not unprecedented. when, when the, when the missiles arrived in cuba in the cuban missile crisis, america very quickly rose to arms and said, we're

going to go to war if you don't get those missiles out of the way. and this is what's been happening. nato has been moving closer towards russia. nato's purpose is to deter a war, not start one. and they do. no. but by moving closer, putting nuclear weapons closer to russia, they're going to provoke them. >> it's not unfair. >> it's not unfair. >> it's not unfair. >> i disagree, i believe. yeah >> i disagree, i believe. yeah >> no, i completely disagree. i mean, let's as usual, >> no, i completely disagree. i mean, let's as usual , this is an mean, let's as usual, this is an attempt by alex. i'm afraid to rewrite history . what putin was rewrite history. what putin was hoping to do, if you remember, was very quickly to overcome the government in kyiv and go back to the old position of the cold war. and this was going to be a why did he want that buffer? >> no, why? >> no, why? >> because that was that was putin's life, his early on. i made this point early on, so i didn't repeat myself. but he likes to live in the in the feeling that we have this great influence. we have a repeat of the russian empire. that's what he was about. but also he thought he would do it easily. so the idea that he sort of he wanted this war, he he was provoked into a war. he wasn't even doing it himself. but can i just really, really quickly make

this point really quickly? >> farage isn't saying that putin didn't start the war. he's very clear that he says putin did start the war, and he didn't mean to didn't mean to. we have to. he can. putin is using the cover up. putin is using this as cover up. putin is using this as cover for the war, for his own people to antagonise. >> all right. we'll go on. >> all right. we'll go on. >> sorry, i actually agree with both of you. >> so i do agree with alex that, you know, nato is supposed to be there as a defence mechanism. and it seems as if you're going to go closer and closer, then it looks like you're trying to attack. but at the same time, we have to take into account historical context of what russia has been doing in ukrainian territory for years and years and years. and even if we go back to the annexation of crimea, it almost seems as if they're just chipping away at ukraine until they can actually get whatever they want it . so, get whatever they want it. so, you know, putin, i think, would be satisfied with by the end of this year, you know, taking over half of what's the current ukrainian and then leaving it at that. and then in the next 50 years, taking a bit more. >> i don't think you're wrong, but don't take out don't take farage his comments out of context, that's a really important thing. and that's what the mainstream media are trying to do to attack him.

>> all right. lovely stuff. okay. well done everybody now coming up chris packham. yeah. off of the environment. makes a private jet plea to a global superstar. >> could send a very symbolic gesture to millions of people by saying that she was going to stop using those jet. >> stay tuned to find how badly he has managed to mug himself off. it's patrick christys tonight. i'll see you a

welcome back to patrick christys. tonight i've got some more front pages for you. so we start with the daily telegraph. starmer will reverse brexit, says kemi badenoch , farage is says kemi badenoch, farage is lying there. the west provoked russia into , attacking ukraine. russia into, attacking ukraine. but on that kemi badenoch, one minister has urged tory voters to stick with the party despite frustrating past few years , the frustrating past few years, the daily express wonderful help has gifted me an extra special birthday. beloved dame esther rantzen today shows the joy of her 84th birthday that she never

expected to see. of course, there was all the, she helped to kick start an assisted dying discussion in this country, which i must say , well, we're which i must say, well, we're going to get after this election because both. sunak and starmer are keen to have a vote on it. and i think that that vote will probably pass. so free vote. yeah. so let's go to the guardian. 300 million nhs patient records stolen by russian hackers. national crime agency considering striking back as it'd be nice if they did, actually, wouldn't it? well, well be considering moscow. yeah, yeah , yeah. ukip. no, yeah, yeah, yeah. ukip. no, don't don't don't get the side. don't cut off john. and i can't be laughing at each other's company like this. you know, the world will be over in seconds. all right? okay. those are your front pages. i have obviously got my wonderful panel with me as well this evening, but i wanted to play you a clip from tv presenter and conservationist chris packham. he's probably well acquainted with swifts , but well acquainted with swifts, but he's chasing the attention of a different kind of swift at the moment. woody taylor, in a

decision hilariously lacking in self—awareness, chris has decided to contact taylor swift, the global megastar that is taylor swift, to ask her to stop using her private jet. >> enormous capacity to communicate a very powerful, intelligent young woman . she intelligent young woman. she should be using that platform to lead and certainly not behaving as a rock star of yester year, travelling around the world in private jets. and i think that she's got to show that legion of adonng she's got to show that legion of adoring young fans that she cares about their future. she could send a very symbolic gesture to millions of people by saying that she was going to stop using those jets. >> so has she responded to you? >> so has she responded to you? >> she hasn't. kate, at. >> she hasn't. kate, at. >> are like, come on, josh, you have any idea who you are ? yeah. have any idea who you are? yeah. no. kate. no she doesn't. no, no. she's senior message because. no, no she hasn't seen your message. right onto another hilarious england fan moment

though. supporters in frankfurt have gone viral after they invented a new sport at the expense of a mate who was a little worse for wear . they . little worse for wear. they. anthropology . oh anthropology. oh >> my god , on this episode, >> my god, on this episode, forgive us. uneasiness of mind. cosmopolitan faux pas post office who ? office who? may post office . office who? may post office. >> oh, no! there you go. and that was before he watched gareth southgate's terrible football. but the good news is the fan is alive. he's well and he's back on the beers. look at him. there he is today.

he's back on the beers. look at him. there he is today . well in him. there he is today. well in sun. yeah it's a very best of us now. sandra says greatest britain union jackass john, i'll start with you. please, my good man, who is your greatest britain >> well, it's no follow. straight on. this is, an honorary award i'm giving tonight, and it goes to taylor swift. why? oh, because she's just obviously good fun, she doesn't, do she? she her plane wasn't at stansted anyway. she doesn't use the plane when she's worried about security, so i just think it's time to say well done. her. she's giving £300 million to the economy in london alone. she's for here eight performances. the kids love her. what's wrong with that? >> yeah, i didn't have you down as a swiftae, john. >> yeah, i'm just about to say i'm moving that way. >> i know i definitely was not on my bingo card , my greatest on my bingo card, my greatest britain is virginia hislop , 105 britain is virginia hislop,105 year old. and this is honorary, by the way, 105 year old, who

received her master's degree from stanford graduate school after beginning her journey there over 80 years ago. >> oh, bless her. oh, these are great. these are very wholesome. go on, alex, drag into the gutter. well i'm a great experience, a good one. >> today, i think i beat john to it this week. it's prince, prince william, the prince of wales . of course it's his wales. of course it's his birthday. i think he's 41. is it 41 or 42? i can't remember, but he's got he's got , he's got he's got he's got, he's got a lot, a lot on the last year or so. his dad and is of course the princess of wales. so i mean, you know , big, big birthday you know, big, big birthday celebration for him. >> well done. all right. okay. i could have chosen any of those we did earlier in the week have, have a prince william. i've gone for taylor swift. i've got a taylor swift . mainly because taylor swift. mainly because i would never stop hearing about it at home if i didn't have to. >> i'm certainly right. >> i'm certainly right. >> who's your union? jack carson. >> well, it's pretty boring, really, but a terrible story, it's this the police chief, you know, who wore all these medals that he didn't belong to? and what is extraordinary is that the whole procedure goes through

the whole procedure goes through the panel sits. the tribunal decides he doesn't even turn up at the end of it. why shouldn't he have just resigned the moment that was perfectly obvious. it was brought the action was brought by his wife. his ex—wife is an extraordinarily crazy . you is an extraordinarily crazy. you know, it's. yeah. got a woman scorned . scorned. >> mine is the whole of the uk. >> mine is the whole of the uk. >> what? you got a minute? >> what? you got a minute? >> no, no, it's the uk's work ethic. >> i'm only joking, so. because there's only one british applicant out of 200. and i just find that really ridiculous. really? to say that everybody's always kind of complaining about migrants taking their jobs. one thing, actually, there was a viral clip where somebody was saying, oh, the immigrants taking my job, why don't you have a job? i've got a criminal record . record. >> see that? >> see that? >> i did see that. i didn't see that. right. very quick. sorry, alex. i'm taking down a national treasure. >> unfortunately, it's dame judi dench today. she is joining extinction rebellion ahead of the election to protect. help protect nature. it's totally bonkers. i don't know what she's thinking . it really is thinking. it really is absolutely nonsense. >> all right. lovely stuff .

>> all right. lovely stuff. today's winner of the union. jackass is nick adderley. who is the police chief who wore. well i must say, fake war medals. that right? well, one fake. >> the rest of them he should never have even had. and they weren't even. they were real. but they. you see me wearing them. >> all right. fantastic. well, look, can i just say a massive thank you to everybody? thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everybody who's been watching and listening at home. i will be with you again on monday. headliners are up next. ihope monday. headliners are up next. i hope you have a fantastic weekend. everybody. take care. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update from the met office. this weekend will be a little bit cloudier than the week has been, but it's still going to be warm. but next week will be even warmer for the time being though, we've got a few weather fronts still moving in from the west. that's going to introduce quite a lot of cloud from western areas, but also some rain through this evening for

parts of wales, north western england, much of scotland down into the south—west as well through this evening. and that's going to push eastwards through the night, introducing more cloud to central and eastern areas by tomorrow morning. now behind that it does turn much clearer across parts of northern ireland and scotland we could see temperatures as low as five degrees for northern ireland. but for many of us another fairly mild start to the day. however, sunshine is going to be slightly more limited very first thing tomorrow, but for much of scotland it should be a fairly bright start to the day. they will likely see a bit more cloud across eastern areas of scotland, perhaps into the far northwest as well a risk of the odd shower. but for many areas of northern ireland and scotland , a bright start to the day. elsewhere, across parts of northeast england, a cloudy start to the day, some drizzly rain as well across eastern areas of england. but for much of wales and the southwest, still fairly bright, and that sunshine will become a bit more widespread throughout saturday. the clouds going to break up and lift up, and that will allow a few showers to break out here

and there across eastern areas of england. but i think most of us should stay dry through the day on saturday. and in that sunshine still feeling fairly warm. we've got very high uv levels and very high pollen levels. temperatures climbing towards 24 degrees across the southeast, but widely into

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headlines. labour leader, sir keir starmer has urged rishi sunak to show some leadership , sunak to show some leadership, amid allegations of tory betting on the timing of the general election. four people are being investigated by the gambling commission, including laura saunders, the wife of the tories campaign director. craig williams, another conservative candidate, has also admitted to an error of judgement after placing a bet on when the election would take place . prime election would take place. prime minister rishi sunak says any lawbreakers will be booted out of the party. speaking on gb news, the labour leader sir keir starmer says it shows everything thatis starmer says it shows everything that is wrong with the tory party. >> they went to him . >> they went to him. >> they went to him. >> i think he should come clean and say who knew ? he should take and say who knew? he should take immediate action against those that are being investigated, suspend his candidate. if they're my candidate , i'd have they're my candidate, i'd have had them out the door without their feet touching the ground and show some leadership on this. the first instinct of some of those tories in relation to a general election is not what's

good for the country, but how