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areas of pilot fatigue and a topical aviation to events and accidents. should we be scared to fly? i but what happens next? thatis to fly? i but what happens next? that is a 98 year old woman, by the way. people. but before we get started, let's get your latest . news. latest. news. >> gnaana. thank you. the top stories from the gb newsroom . stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister and labour leader have criticised nigel farage's comments, suggesting the west provoked russia's invasion of ukraine. rishi sunak says it was completely wrong after missing out on the bbc question time leaders special . question time leaders special. the reform uk leader took part in an interview with the bbc's nick robinson. mr farage said the expansion of the eu and nato gave him a reason to tell the russian people they're coming

for us again. the prime minister says the comments play into the russian president's hands, which the labour leader has echoed , the labour leader has echoed, and the farage's comments about about russia and ukraine are disgraceful. >> i've always been clear that putin bears responsibility , sole putin bears responsibility, sole responsibility for the russian aggression in ukraine, and we have always stood behind ukraine and supported ukraine, and so far we've done it united across parliament. i've made it my business to ensure that the opposition stood with the government on this issue. so seriously, did we take it? and of course, with our nato allies , of course, with our nato allies, the conservatives say they're going to focus on the night time economy and secure the future of britain's pubs, bars, restaurants and music venues. >> in its first 100 days of government , the tory party says government, the tory party says a comprehensive review would be launched to look at licensing laws, planning rules and other enforcements they say is holding back growth. it says the sector was disproportionately impacted by the covid pandemic and the

war in ukraine, which drove up food, drink and energy prices. rishi sunak says representatives for bars , pubs and music venues for bars, pubs and music venues deserve more support for the work they put into serving local communities. >> it's right that they get the support they need. they've been let down by labour, whether that's here in london where those types of venues are closing at a rapid rate with multiple job losses , or indeed multiple job losses, or indeed in wales, where labour is hiking up their taxes , a conservative up their taxes, a conservative government will support all those venues to make sure that they can continue creating jobs and drive our economy forward and drive our economy forward and continue providing an enormous amount of enjoyment in our local communities. >> sir keir starmer has outlined his party's plans to tackle delayed compensation for those affected by the windrush scandal. the scandal refers to migrants from the caribbean who started to arrive to the uk in 1948 to help rebuild britain after the war. sir keir is pledging today a fundamental reset to respect and dignity for the windrush generation. the labour leader met with people who came to britain during that

time and their family members in vauxhall. he says. the conservatives have presided over a failing compensation scheme, which has only paid out 2500 claims out of an estimated 15,000 people originally considered eligible . meanwhile, considered eligible. meanwhile, labouris considered eligible. meanwhile, labour is pledging to put water companies under special measures as over 10,000 people have been hospitalised due to water borne diseases under the conservatives rule. labour say they'll give the water regulator powers to block the payment of any bonuses to polluting water bosses until they've , quote, cleaned up their they've, quote, cleaned up their filth. they've also vowed to make water bosses who continue to oversee lawbreaking face criminal charges, as well as end self monitoring and force all companies to accept independent monitoring to stop companies covering up illegal sewage dumping, shadow environment secretary steve reed says things need to change. >> it's the last general election. over 10,000 people have been hospitalised because they contracted water borne

diseases while they were in the sea or after they went in one of our rivers. that's not just a bad stomach that's getting so sick. they had to go to hospital. and it's happened because the conservative party went completely soft on the water companies who are doing this . so if water companies who are doing this. so if labour wins the general election on the 4th of july, everything will change. we'll put the water companies under tough special measures. so the water bosses who are overseeing this failure will face criminal charges. if they keep doing it, they'll find themselves in the dock. >> the liberal democrats are setting out a plan to save a chalk stream, to save chalk streams from environmental disaster. and this comes as analysis by the party found over 48,500 hours worth of sewage was discharged into chalk streams last year, more than double the previous year. the proposals would see a public consultation launched within the first 100 days of a lib dem government, in which rivers and lakes could be awarded new blue flag status to protect them from sewage dumping. lib dems leader sir ed davey has ensured it won't cost

the public to set up that new system . system. >> actually, it's really, really quite cheap and we do a public consultation to start off so the pubuc consultation to start off so the public can be involved in it, and the blue flag status , the and the blue flag status, the applications are really quite cheap. i think it's about 425 from from memory pounds. so we're not talking a lot of money. what we're we have put investment because you need to get behind it is in a new regulator. we've called it the clean water authority. we're not happy with the way the regulators have been monitoring and enforcing the law on the water companies. and enforcing the law on the water companies . they've been water companies. they've been allowing them to get away with this filthy sewage dumping . this filthy sewage dumping. >> now, pro—palestinian protesters have sprayed red paint on a historic building at the university of cambridge . the university of cambridge. students and members of the palestine action group targeted senate house this afternoon, a building that has been used for graduation ceremonies since the 18th century. the group says the action marked the end of an academic year where university of cambridge has funded enabled

a normalise the ongoing palestinian genocide, while a spokesman for the university says they strongly condemn this act of vandalism , the search has act of vandalism, the search has intensified for british teenager jay slater, who went missing in tenerife. jay travelled for a music festival on his first houday music festival on his first holiday without his parents. specialist dog teams have now joined police and firefighters in that search operation, which has entered its sixth day. the 19 year old has not been heard from since he called a friend shortly before 9:00 monday morning, saying he was lost and he needed water. he was last seen in the northwestern mountain village of masca . and mountain village of masca. and the prince of wales has thanked taylor swift for a great concert as he shared a photo of the pop superstar taking a selfie with him and his children, prince george and princess charlotte. watching the us singer perform at wembley stadium. prince william was also spotted shaking his arms to shake it off. that

is one of her songs as he celebrated his 42nd birthday. swift posted her selfie with prince william, george and charlotte alongside her boyfriend, nfl star travis kelce . for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts now it's back to . it's back to. nana. >> so welcome to gb news news. i'm nana akua. coming up, comedian and host of the saturday vibe, darren grimes will be making the light of this week's top stories in mock the week at 320. it's my roundtable discussion just stop oil have been at it again this week. vandalising stonehenge and taylor swift saw what they thought was taylor swift's private jet. but what do you make of all that? i'll be joined by a climate expert and a

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came back on the scene. sir tony blair, dinosaur who confirmed what we already knew that a woman has a vagina and a man has a penis. as he questioned , and a penis. as he questioned, and he even questioned why politicians had gotten themselves in such a muddle over themselves in such a muddle over the trans rights. then boris johnson was wheeled out in the tory campaign to play a more active role in the election campaign to counter the threat from reform, with thousands of letters signed by him to be delivered to voters later in the week and then of course, we had question time, where leaders faced the public scary stuff . faced the public scary stuff. the liberal democrat leader, sir ed davey, admitted that the pubuc ed davey, admitted that the public had punished his party for their broken promise on tuition fees back in 2015. >> i understand why your generation lost faith in us, it was a difficult government to be in, explained. i had choices whether we came out of it and carp from the sidelines or try to get there and win things . we

to get there and win things. we didn't win everything and we lost that one and we got punished . at the 2015 election, punished. at the 2015 election, i lost my seat along with most liberal democrats, actually , yes. >> after him, it was john swinney who admitted that the snp had to rebuild trust with voters after a turbulent 12 months. >> it has been a turbulent time and i'd be the first to accept that and to admit that . so my that and to admit that. so my party has asked me to lead it through this election campaign and beyond. the 2026 parliamentary elections to essentially do two things to, first of all, rebuild trust between the electorate and the scottish national party. and i've always worked throughout my political life to build trust and confidence with the electorate that have chosen me and secondly, to provide the direction that's necessary in the scottish government to change people's lives , then it change people's lives, then it was the turn of labour leader sir keir starmer , who was sir keir starmer, who was challenged about his past support for jeremy corbyn. >> let's answer this yes or no. when you said jeremy corbyn

would make a good prime minister, did you mean it? >> look, he would be a better prime minister. well, look what we've got. boris johnson , a man we've got. boris johnson, a man who made massive promises, didn't keep them and then had to leave parliament in disgrace . leave parliament in disgrace. >> whilst rishi sunak faced questions about the tory betting scandal. this was his response. >> well, like you , i was >> well, like you, i was incredibly angry. incredibly angry to learn of these allegations. it's a really serious matter. it's right that they're being investigated properly by the relevant law enforcement authorities, including , enforcement authorities, including, as fiona said, a criminal investigation by the police . police. >> yes. a very scary being questioned by the public. they ain't going to let anybody off. and then christopher hope got a chat to sir keir starmer here on gb news. you will find that our manifesto is our back to work plan , many people on long term plan, many people on long term sickness. we need to get them back into the workplace. 2 or 3 ways of doing that. businesses will support this. i've been to some of these initiatives. so

many people are able to get back into work if they're supported back into work. and i want to radically , restructure the germ, radically, restructure the germ, bnng radically, restructure the germ, bring down the cost of benefit. >> well, i was really surprised that jobcentres are not places where businesses go to find the people they need for the vacancies . vacancies. >> so there's a mismatch there. >> so there's a mismatch there. >> so there's a mismatch there. >> so more on that later. it's been a mucky old week . well been a mucky old week. well joining me now is gp news political contributor darren grimes. it's been dirty grimy grimy grimy grimy hasn't it? >> i'll tell you what watching those clips is sir keir starmer nana. i've seen more of a backbone on a jellyfish. really. i honestly think got jk rowling coming out yesterday in the times . it's coming out yesterday in the times. it's in the paper today and saying, look, i'm a former labour member, i'm a former labour member, i'm a former labour voter. >> i cannot vote for that man when he throws women like rosie duffield, who was a labour party mp under the bus, as he has. >> but but he wasn't on his own, was he really? >> because he, he had anneliese dodds you had loads of them. emily thornberry, all of them

coming out sort of, you know, continuing with this rhetoric about the whole thing, you know, and it just seemed a bit odd. >> absolutely . well, yeah, >> absolutely. well, yeah, they've been utterly weak. and evenin they've been utterly weak. and even in the face of the cass review, an independent review which found that actually in the name of trans ideology, we've let safe garden be completely thrown out of the window . so, thrown out of the window. so, and despite that, you would think the labour party would then say, maybe we've got this wrong. >> well, to be fair , he did. >> well, to be fair, he did. keir starmer did say that, yeah. woman does have a vagina and a man has a penis. and he said he agrees with what tony blair said i >> exactly. em >> exactly. he needed tony blair. uncle tony to tell him it was all right to say that before he could say it himself. i mean, thatis he could say it himself. i mean, that is pathetic in my opinion . that is pathetic in my opinion. is that the sign of strong leadership? >> well, wes streeting has also changed his mind as well. he came out. i mean, i don't understand and i think tony blair's right. i agree with him. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> why would it take why would it be such a complex thing for them to acknowledge? >> not at all, tony blair has said in the past things like there are certain parts of this country in which integration isn't happening, for example , he

isn't happening, for example, he said pretty sensible things that many politicians are screamed at for repeating. so it is quite extraordinary what tony blair can actually get away with. but i do as i say . i can actually get away with. but i do as i say. i find it can actually get away with. but idoasisay.ifindita i do as i say. i find it a dereliction of duty from the labour leader , labour party to labour leader, labour party to actually be able to say something without having the sign off from tony blair. does that not tell you all you need to know? >> what about rishi sunak thing? because obviously he's had a terrible, terrible few months. in fact, a terrible few. how long has it been a year? a year, yeah.i long has it been a year? a year, yeah. i mean, the whole thing now, it's been the whole thing's been a bit of a disaster. yeah. i've always said it feels like there's actually people in the party who don't want him to be there and are setting him up. i said that people looked at me as though i was mad, and now it turns out that they may well be. obviously this is going under investigation. so we can't say too much, but it looks as though there may well be people who may have taken advantage of insider knowledge . knowledge. >> yeah, at this point you'd be forgiven for thinking rishi sunak was a red under the bed. you know, it's there to actually sunak was a red under the bed. you know destroy the conservative party. but i think you're right. that's

incredibly serious. and watching rishi sunak in that question time debate say he was incredibly angry. well nana, why doesn't he find out exactly what's gone on and tell the person if they admit it there and then that they're sacked, why wouldn't you do that? you know, if it's incredibly serious and obviously there's got to be due process, but if the person owns up to it and there is our serious questions to be answered, that's completely unacceptable . unacceptable. >> well, i think that's kind of where he is with it. he's waiting for the investigation and the due process to occur. >> well, he'll be gone by then . >> well, he'll be gone by then. >> well, he'll be gone by then. >> well, he'll be gone by then. >> well, we don't know that. we don't know that . don't know that. >> oh, i wish i was as sure as when in the lottery. you laugh . when in the lottery. you laugh. >> what about. what about. what about ed davey? because ed davey, in a sense, came off quite well. he's he talked about water, which were all how these big companies have managed to get away with, you know, doing such awful things. it just seems terrible in this. >> we've had tom harwood in the seats where tory facing seats that he's fighting for, which he

stands a good chance in where these issues are really prevalent parts of the country that , do have prevalent parts of the country that, do have significant issues when it comes to water contamination and all the rest of it, these environmental problems aren't going away. and i think it has called into question . it's undermines the question. it's undermines the case for capitalism, really , case for capitalism, really, with people saying bring them back into public ownership. so this doesn't happen anymore. so yeah, the lib dems are capitalising on this and it seems like a pretty open goal. >> well, to be frank, i mean, he did come across quite sensibly , did come across quite sensibly, but then obviously there's a post office stuff which he kind of apologised in a way for and wished that he'd spoken to, john alan bates. yeah so that that was good. but it's still to me , was good. but it's still to me, the whole scandal was bad. it wasn't him. it was only not only him. there were other ministers involved. so, you know, he can't take the rap for all of that. but it was pretty. >> absolutely. and i mean, the stuff about the tuition fees, you know, that's an admission that what politicians say in their manifesto is seldom ever

delivered in practice when they're elected . so i think they're elected. so i think they've got a job to do to actually convince people, especially younger people, that they will do as they say . they will do as they say. >> well, what about john sweeney? of course, he said he was asked, which of the parties who would he rather be under? yeah. and he said the labour party. >> yeah. well there's no surprise. right. i mean, there are some labour party politicians who've been quite sympathetic to the idea of scotland going independent. so i can understand that , but they, can understand that, but they, the snp had serious questions to answer about everything they've been up to recently. and he's got a task on his hand to actually convince people that they're not just a total mess and in a chaos like the conservative party has and who we've missed out. well nigel farage nigel farage wasn't he there? >> well , percentage wise are >> well, percentage wise are currently in some polls . not not currently in some polls. not not all of them, but some. he is polling higher than the liberal democrats and some of them 19% higher than the conservatives in some. so i don't understand. i think he should have been there and it was disappointing . and

and it was disappointing. and actually it's better that he's there so they can question him. you know , and he wants to be you know, and he wants to be there. and that's great that they can rip apart his policies. if they don't agree with them. absolutely. does he. then he'll have to answer. >> i mean, he's been in the press for the last 24 hours since that, interview aired with, nick robinson yesterday. but look, i actually do think the bbc here are showing a bit bias, i've got to admit, because when you're polling second in the polls above the conservatives, surely there is an argument there that says you need to be scrutinised and actually. well, exactly. you know , put forward him because know, put forward him because actually it gives him more power if they don't. >> and then he makes a statement about something to do with ukraine, and all eyes are on him. and, and the thing is, it's a foreign policy, even though so it's not immediately relatable. so it's something that people could , if they don't agree with could, if they don't agree with him, could openly forgive him and move forward. so he's playing an incredible game this and darren grimes thank you so much. thanks. you're back on saturday five 6:00 after you after you. >> absolutely exactly brilliant to it. >> also look forward to that as well. thank you very much. that is darren grimes presenter for

the saturday five. you do not want to miss that that is at 6:00 after my show. but you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. it's just coming up to 21 minutes after 3:00 on the way. uri geller, he'll be joining me to discuss his 50 years in the limelight. incredible, man. next, though, it's my round table discussion is it time to get tough on eco activism? this is

gb news. good afternoon. it's just coming up to 24 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we are britain's election channel now. of course, though, it's channel now. of course, though, wsfime channel now. of course, though, it's time for my round table discussion. climate activist just stop oil. we're at it again this week. a man in his 70s and a woman in her 20s were arrested but were bailed on suspicion of criminal damage and damaging an ancient monument and two women have been charged with criminal

damage. afterjust have been charged with criminal damage. after just stop have been charged with criminal damage. afterjust stop oil damage. after just stop oil activists sprayed private jets with orange paint at stansted airport . what stunt will they airport. what stunt will they pull next? is the question there in the studio now. god help us. orange is not a great colour for me. just so you know, this is a new wig, so do not damage it, right? so joining me now, we've got ben larson from just stop oil and also , political oil and also, political activist. we've got, pam. pam spurr, psychologist and commentator. and also paul burgess, climate scientist. right, paul, looking to camera. are you looking sideways? right so it's my fault we're in a three way, right. so i'm going to start with you, ben. just talk to me about what is going on. why are you doing this to these monuments? what's going on? >> well, thanks for having me on. i wouldn't call taylor swifts private jet a monument, but , just stop oil takes these but, just stop oil takes these kind of actions because it puts the issue of new oil and gas and the issue of new oil and gas and the burning of fossil fuels at the burning of fossil fuels at the top of the political agenda where it should be. >> but some people might argue that doing that, it's not really at the top of the political agenda. it was already there. so agenda. it was already there. so a lot of people are already talking about it. it's not at the bottom. there's net zero

coming through. we've got the political parties all in unison talking about doing it. so what is the point of you doing this? just it just tends to isolate you . people get annoyed. you. people get annoyed. >> okay, so two things here before 2022 when just stop oil came on the scene , no one was came on the scene, no one was talking about new oil and gas. it was a non—issue. it was a dead duck. since just stop oil have launched our campaign , it's have launched our campaign, it's beenin have launched our campaign, it's been in the headlines consistently. and the second thing is, you said the political parties are all talking about net zero, all talking about climate change. i think some common ground we have here, neither you or i believe that the political parties are making any sense on this . their plans any sense on this. their plans aren't realistic. they do not, actually account for the crisis at hand, and so just stop oil is providing the political leadership that britain needs. >> well, somebody might, might argue that it doesn't actually make any sense at all. what they're talking about. the net zero. >> paul burgess well, i'm a person, by the way. there's been attacked by just stop oil and had one of their activists , had one of their activists, criminalised. he pleaded guilty to the to the assault he made,

and he threw a table at us and, you know, i would like to ask ben for a start. you wouldn't support that sort of action that caused him to have a year suspended sentence , a fine and suspended sentence, a fine and a criminal record. >> every action just stop oil has done is non—violent and accountable. i have no idea what you're talking about. you'd have to explain a lot. >> fryston strange is the name he's in record in swindon and he's in record in swindon and he's stop oil and so on. but you wouldn't agree with that. sort of. >> the group is called just stop oil, to be honest. you've have a questionable history. >> all right. forget that you have a questionable history is would you support that sort of thing? >> just stop oil has never supported any violent action at all at all. no violent action. and we've always been accountable . accountable. >> okay. the problem with just and is next question is, is your actions to stop the burning of all fossil fuels by 2030? is that your aim? >> not only the burning but also the extraction, the extraction , burning? >> and so we stopped the use of all fossil oils by the government for the government to draw up a legally binding plan to do so and work with international by 2030, have no burning of fossil fuels of any

sort. thank you. well, the stonehenge was very appropriate to you then, because that was 5000 years old. and that's what you'd take us back to. so the clothes you're in, you wouldn't have them. that's not correct. they didn't have wind turbines. >> they didn't have solar. >> they didn't have solar. >> they didn't have solar. >> they didn't have hydro. i'm sorry. >> i believe that britain is a strong enough nation , strong enough nation, technologically developed, has a great workforce, and we can put together a plan to have a clean, renewable energy in the hands of people. >> today we have 4.8% in britain of all the energy is solar and wind 4.8. and that's just part of it . your clothes aren't just of it. your clothes aren't just electricity, it's materials. and so on. it comes from oil. you wouldn't have your phone, you wouldn't have your phone, you wouldn't have your phone, you wouldn't have the studio. you wouldn't have the studio. you wouldn't have the studio. you wouldn't have television, you wouldn't have television, you wouldn't have television, you wouldn't have anything. if we went pretty fast and loose with the facts. no, i agree, i agree. >> we can both agree that we're in an oil based economy. >> that's why we need we are. that's why we need an emergency plan to move away. >> but if. >> but if. >> can i just bring you back? you want to get rid of oil and gas completely? what about a base? low power? then what about that? what will you do with that? what will you do with that? obviously that that is the power that we need all the time.

the amount of power that you need constantly to power everything. right. so what do we do about that? because without oil and gas, which would be the backup for solar and everything else like that, which would stop blackouts and things like that, you need base load power and it's intermittent with so what are you going to do? >> so we could talk all day long about what people what support you that specifically? i know, i know, we can talk all day long about supporters. just stop oil. what they would like our energy generation starts to be. the point is, if we don't make up, if we don't make this plan, if we don't put a plan in place by 2030, there is no plan to deal with catastrophic wildfires . with catastrophic wildfires. >> no, no, no, all those are less. all those the extremes of weather. and except for heat, the ipcc, i've got the document there if you want and i can tell you the reference to it. >> and these are the climate ipcc main climate body. >> paul's brought in his little no, no, no, no. >> these are facts. >> these are facts. >> so he's allowed to write then everyone just hold on. let him finish. finish. no, let me just give you some facts on ipcc state page 1856. the latest ar6

report tabled 1212 that no more extreme droughts due to mankind, no more floods due to mankind , no more floods due to mankind, no more floods due to mankind, no more. i can go on right the way down the ipcc. this is the. and i want to bring in the expert, she is a psychologist and social commentator. pam, what do you make of all these sort of tactics psychologically? is it working for just stop oil ? is it working for just stop oil? >> as a psychologist, i look at activism at the three levels. >> there's the passive that's signing petitions, writing to your mp, research shows people love to sign petitions, even if they only agree 30% of the cause. so always a cause should get their petitions out there. the second level is active. that's where you have contained rallies at places like trafalgar square, where they don't march there. they just everybody meets there. they just everybody meets there and tom moore disrupt traffic as much . traffic as much. >> you disrupt your audio is going, yeah , we're going to try going, yeah, we're going to try and sort out your audio and we'll try and fix that up, i can try and sort that out, but. but

i want to come back. yeah to paul i want to come back. yeah to paul. look, this is the thing. just stop oil . a lot of people just stop oil. a lot of people would potentially agree with the idea of not burning as many fossil fuels, having all the renewables working and everything else like that, but it's the banning of something thatis it's the banning of something that is useful that we already have within our own environment that then becomes problematic and problematic. it is problematic, but it doesn't seem to bend, doesn't seem to acknowledge that. >> yeah. no, i mean, first of all, we haven't got a baseload. the question that was very good. you see, i've just come back from the isle of man where the isle of man, that's an independent country, and i went over on invited by citizens. >> the isle of man is an independent country. >> yes it is, it's an independent democracy. >> yeah. so anyway. >> yeah. so anyway. >> carry on. oh, you don't even agree with that, do you? anyway, i was invited over. i looked at their figures. they've got a wind farm installation planned and there were 300% wrong, you know, no doubt about it. black and white, 300% wrong. so about what? sorry. well, they said they reeled from the this 20, this 20mw of turbines. would they get 85% of the power out they get 85% of the power out the wind. no one in the world gets what scotland gets is 28.4.

what island gets about 27. well we get england's about 26 and they're getting 85. the figures were wrong and that is what we challenged. and we got a group and a political party probably starting there to stop it. you are living in a dream world. if you think you've just denied the ipcc , yet you people have not ipcc, yet you people have not denied the ipcc. >> you've misrepresented them. >> you've misrepresented them. >> how have i misrepresented? i don't think he has, and he wouldn't be allowed to. we'd scrutinise that. he's giving you data, right? yeah. so you won't debate. so you've just thrown away a report from the climate department, the climate group, who look after and talk about climate within this country. >> i encourage anyone away, anyone at home, look up ipcc increased flooding. you can make your own mind up. >> let me explain how that happens. >> no, let me explain. new oil and gas is an existential threat to the people in this country. it means social collapse. it means no fires. >> it means none of those things. >> and why does it mean that? sorry. why does it mean that? i'm not seeing why you're saying that? why does it mean that i think if you don't have oil and gas, it means those things. >> okay, so as groups like the

ipcc say, world climate scientist opinion is firmly onside, that as we pump more carbon into the atmosphere , the carbon into the atmosphere, the world heats up because the greenhouse gas effect okay. >> so how is you spraying orange on pine plains and disrupting monuments and spraying on all sorts of things? how is that helping the cause to get people to just stop oil comes from a long line, a proud line of non violent civil resistance. we've never doesn't it come from a huge he doesn't it wasn't, it wasn't it set up by a guy who's an oil baron. >> yes i mean behind stop oil. they get trained for this. but am i wrong. >> you are wrong. okay. >> you are wrong. okay. >> so who set it up ? there's no >> so who set it up? there's no oil barons. there's nobody behind just stop oil. >> no, there's a group of ordinary people who are terrified of this government. >> can i just say something else that's may recall lauded as the hottest record, you know, ever in britain, etc? yes may 1883. from the official central england temperature record from the met office was a 1 degrees centigrade warmer than last may. when you when you actually look at the facts and why the ipcc political body says all this rubbish, they don't agree with

their own scientists and what i, what you've just thrown away is typical. you won't debate the science , you won't debate the science, you won't debate the facts, and you just want to disrupt people. and i'm telling you now, you wouldn't exist. you wouldn't have your mobile phone. you wouldn't have your transport. not anything. >> i'm afraid about that . >> i'm afraid about that. >> i'm afraid about that. >> you wouldn't have all of that if you didn't have the oil and gas that you're talking about. now. even the clothes you're wearing, the chemicals from it alone account for eating out is at odds with what, 97% of climate scientists? >> no, no, i've got that here. sorry, sorry, sorry. >> let me finish. >> let me finish. >> okay, let me finish. now. i've got to go to the news. i do have 97% of that away as well. >> gb news own owners have have major financial stakes in over 100 oil and gas firms. so it's no surprise that people like . no surprise that people like. >> no, no, no, hold on. he's nothing to do with gb news owners . and i'm questioning you owners. and i'm questioning you neutrally about the behaviour of just stop oil. nobody is saying that they don't support the fact of cleaning up the environment and trying to make things better, but what we are saying is, why are you chucking orange stuff at monuments? and why are you disrupting people who would potentially support you? that is the problem. you

>> it puts the issue in the news, it puts the issue in the news, it puts the issue in the news and new oil and gas equals social collapse. we need an emergency plan. >> not in a good way. >> not in a good way. >> anyone who wants to join us can go to just stop oil. >> why aren't you going to china to do it? sign up for action. why aren't you going to china to do. >> i don't speak chinese, mate. >> i don't speak chinese, mate. >> oh, come off it. that's a pity. >> they would understand it. listen, if you threw orange, you don't need to speak chinese to be able to chuck orange at a plane. listen, i've got to go to the news. i could talk to these guys for ages. as ben larson from just stop oil and also climate scientist paul burgess. pam sperm, whilst there momentarily. right. time now to go to your latest news headlines. this is gb news. >> keep. >> keep. >> it's 334. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your in the gb newsroom. your headlines. the prime minister and labour leader have criticised nigel farage's comments, suggesting the west provoked russia's invasion of ukraine. rishi sunak says it was completely wrong after missing out on the bbc question time leader's special. the reform uk leader's special. the reform uk leader took part in an interview

with the bbc's nick robinson. mr farage said the expansion of the eu and nato gave putin a reason to tell the russian people they're coming for us. the prime minister says the comments play into the russian president's hands, which the labour leader echoed . the conservatives say echoed. the conservatives say they're going to focus on the night time economy and secure the future of britain's pubs, bars , restaurants and music bars, restaurants and music venues in its first 100 days of government. the tory party says a comprehensive review would be launched to look at licensing laws , planning rules and other laws, planning rules and other enforcements they say is holding back growth . sir keir starmer back growth. sir keir starmer has outlined his party's plans to tackle delayed compensation for those affected by the windrush scandal. the windrush scandal refers to migrants from the caribbean who started to arrive in the uk in 1948 to help rebuild britain after the war. sir keir is pledging today a fundamental reset to respect and dignity for the windrush

generation . the labour leader generation. the labour leader met the people who came to britain during that time and their family members in vauxhall, he says . the vauxhall, he says. the conservatives have presided over a failing compensation scheme. the scheme has only paid out 2500 claims, out of an estimated 15,000 people originally considered eligible for compensation , and the prince of compensation, and the prince of wales has thanked taylorswift for a great concert as he shared a photo of the pop superstar taking a selfie with him and his children. prince george and princess charlotte. watching the us singer perform at wembley stadium. prince william was also spotted shaking his arms to shakeit spotted shaking his arms to shake it off as he celebrated his 42nd birthday. swift posted her selfie with prince william, george and charlotte alongside her boyfriend , nfl star travis her boyfriend, nfl star travis kelce . and for the latest story, kelce. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's back to . nana.

it's back to. nana. >> well, i thought that was very civilised, don't you think? just stop oil right. still to come in my political spotlight polling expert, sir john curtis will be live in the political hot seat to shine a light on the race for number 10. and if we should believe everything that we see in the polls. but next, uri geller join me to discuss his remarkable career. 50 years in the limelight.

good afternoon. you just tuned in. welcome. it's just coming up to 41 minutes after 3:00. this is a gb news. we are britain's election channel. very exciting. elections coming soon. bringing you lots of coverage for that. but right now, it is time to speak to performer and mystifier uri geller, who joins me live from tel aviv. so, uri, so what's on your mind? uri okay, listen, look, nana, first of all, thank you for having me

again on your fantastic show. >> thank you . first of all, i >> thank you. first of all, i want to show you something. look, do you see this ? this is a look, do you see this? this is a part of a missile which landed near me. just to remind you , near me. just to remind you, iran fired dozens of missiles and sent hundreds of attack drones into israel . and, drones into israel. and, incredibly, israeli pilots and our allies shot down every single one. this was in april. allow me to. this is very heavy. let me put it down. now that was in april. this week. it was reported in the papers here and all over the world, by the way, that i, i had something to do with the systems that we use to bnng with the systems that we use to bring down the drones. look, i cannot really talk about it, but yes, i can confirm on your show that i did play an indirect part in blocking the attack from

iran. that's all i can say, because the operation was secret. but when our enemies come to attack israel, i will do whatever i can to help stop them. but nana, if you think things are bad now with a war in gaza, what you have seen is nothing yet. and what i'm about to tell you and your viewers that it has to do also with britain. and let me explain. i want your viewers now to listen to this very, very clearly. look nana the middle east is on the edge of an abyss , the biggest edge of an abyss, the biggest war the middle east has ever had is about to break out any day , is about to break out any day, and britain could get dragged into it. and let me explain why. let me get this picture up. see, just three days ago, hassan

nasrallah, the head of the hezbollah terror group, threatened to attack israel's ally cyprus. cyprus in the event of a war with israel. now there are british bases on cyprus , and are british bases on cyprus, and these are sovereign british territory, not israel. said he would fight without rules. and if he hits the british bases , if he hits the british bases, then that is a direct attack on britain . britain would have to britain. britain would have to retaliate and if britain gets involved in a war against a muslim country , vie. well, nana, muslim country, vie. well, nana, you can imagine what will happen on the streets of london, manchester, the streets of birmingham. if you didn't know hezbollah has been attacking israel since october the 8th, just one day after the hamas massacre. and we have now reached the point where we cannot go on like this. but nana

hamas is a child's play compared to hezbollah . hezbollah has to hezbollah. hezbollah has hundreds of high precision missiles which can reach anywhere , anywhere in israel. anywhere, anywhere in israel. they can hit our power stations , they can hit our power stations, our military bases, even our alleged nuclear plant. israel cannot wait for this to happen. just imagine explosion in a nuclear plant. israel is ready to carry out a lightning strike on hezbollah and even iran . now on hezbollah and even iran. now they will unleash thousands of missiles, no doubt against israel. and israel will suffer terrible casualties. but israel will have to use force like you've never seen, and it will mean the end of lebanon , mean the end of lebanon, southern beirut, which is a basically a stronghold of hezbollah. it will vanish and iran will suffer a knock out blow from weapons, which will

shock the world. look, nana, of course i pray and i hope you all pray. help me pray that none of this will happen, but israel cannot live with an axe hanging overits cannot live with an axe hanging over its neck. so to find finalise this segment. i love you all. i pray that this will never happen. please pray for peace, bless you nana and thank you for having me on. >> oh, thank you very much lori. of course we pray that doesn't happen at all. those are of course always thoughts. i can't verify some of the things you said that i haven't read them myself, but we appreciate your thoughts and thank you very much for joining me. that is, of forjoining me. that is, of course, global sensation uri geller with his predictions, his thoughts on how he sees things unfolding. but next up , polling unfolding. but next up, polling expert sir john curtice will be in the political hot seat to a light on the polls for the general election. in my political spotlight, do

so if you just joined me. welcome. this is tv news. we have britain's election channel. we're live on tv, online, our digital radio. it's time now for this week's political spotlight. so joining me to shine a light is polling expert sirjohn is polling expert sir john curtice is. three major polls have been released this week, all telling slightly different stories. but each of the polls spelled bad news for the tories, predicting they could end up with between 53 to 155 seats. so sir john curtice, how much should we trust these polls? i mean, they could be completely wrong . wrong. >> well, they could, but they all contain the same message as indeed, do to other polls that came out this week of the same kind, these so—called multiple regression and post—stratification polls, which are essentially mega polls that are essentially mega polls that are sufficiently big that using statistical estimates mean we reckon that you can do a reasonable estimate of what the

outcome might be in each constituency, and thereby at least identify the ways in which the electoral geography of party support might be changing. >> and we do have to remember that under our electoral system, it is the geography that matters as much as how many votes you get. so what all these five polls show as indeed did the local elections at the beginning of may, is that support for the conservatives is falling more heavily in places that they are trying to defend. in part, this is almost an arithmetical inevitability, because if , as inevitability, because if, as the polls currently suggest, the conservatives are down 25 points on where they were in 2019, while there are 100 constituencies where the conservatives did not get 25% of the vote last time, where therefore their vote cannot be going down by 25 points now, which must mean that it's going down more elsewhere. and in practice , this again, these mega practice, this again, these mega polls pick this up. the reform party are advancing most strongly in conservative held

constituencies, not least because the brexit party, reform's predecessor, did not fight most conservative held constituencies back in 2019. so anything that reform gain and nearly all their votes are coming from 2019 tory voters almost anything they gain is coming. it's coming on, on, on top of a base of zero. so i mean that that's kind of what underlies these polls. and it's a kind of brutal reality that it's very difficult for the conservatives to escape from, if indeed more broadly , the polls indeed more broadly, the polls are correct, that they are way, way down on where they were five years ago. >> so what about when has has there been a time when the polls have been so badly wrong that, that it has come as a surprise to people? i mean, i remember brexit sure. that. well, of course i've of course it has, the polls were over estimated labour's position the

conservatives in 1992. we thought we were heading for a hung parliament in the end, the conservatives got there only just a quite narrow overall majority. back in 2015, the polls suggested we would end up with a hung parliament and david cameron got an overall majority. and in 2017, although the polls narrowed, the polls, underestimated, how closely jeremy corbyn was running the conservatives so the polls just have gone wrong. but if we look at the size of the errors of the polls, the biggest one of those is 1992, so that's a nine point, error. so let's assume, for the purposes of argument that the polls are as wrong now as they were in 1992, that still labour 11 points ahead. that is still sir keir starmer as the next prime minister, albeit perhaps not with the kind of supermajority that we've been talking about. the problem is that the conservatives are so far behind in the polls in fact, the it's worth bearing in mind the it's worth bearing in mind the conservatives have never previously in polling history

been this low. so it requires a stupendous error, for us to be anticipating anything other than anticipating anything other than a labour majority. >> so why is it so statistically almost impossible, it seems, for reform to become the second party, because everyone talks as if it could never happen. it could never happen. it could never happen. but could it happen? >> well, it depends whether you mean votes or seats, well, seats. >> let's let's call seats. yeah, yeah. >> well, in terms of seats, no, in terms of votes, perhaps they are now beginning to breathe down the conservatives neck. there are only about, i reckon, 2 or 3 points behind the conservatives so far as votes are concerned. the problem for reform so far as seats is concerned, is that we're anticipating that, for the most part, their votes are going to be geographically , fairly evenly be geographically, fairly evenly spread, albeit doing somewhat better in areas much as ukip support was geographically evenly spread back in 2015 when they got around 1,415% of the vote, which is where, reform might end up. and that resulted

in just one ukip mp being elected, douglas carswell, who was already the mp for clacton . was already the mp for clacton. now, of course we're running out of time . of time. >> i could talk to you for ages about this. we should have a whole segment with you, i think, on this, that is professor sir john curtice joining me now with his thoughts on polling. stay tuned. loads more on the way. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news is . weather on gb news is. >> hi there. welcome along to the latest update from the met office for gb news. some showers , especially across southeast england through the rest of today, but dry for most and increasingly sunny skies through today and the next few days. in fact, with rising temperatures. but for the time being, there is some cloud around and for western scotland, for northern ireland, that cloud thickens dunng ireland, that cloud thickens during the evening, some outbreaks of light and patchy

rain and drizzle move in that rain and drizzle move in that rain and drizzle tends to sink south into northern england, parts of wales , southwest parts of wales, southwest england as well. some low cloud around by dawn , some mist around around by dawn, some mist around coastal parts but clear skies elsewhere. some fog patches here and there and temperatures in the single figures. first thing in a few sheltered spots, but otherwise it's actually plenty of sunshine for the east midlands, east anglia and the south east. temperatures rising quickly through the morning. we've got this coastal mist and fog across south wales and southwest england. some drizzle over the hills here as well, but for the far north of england, for the far north of england, for scotland and northern ireland, we're going to see plenty of sunshine during the morning and temperatures rising quickly through the day . but for quickly through the day. but for many it is essentially a fine day, albeit rather cloudy through the midlands , wales and through the midlands, wales and the southwest during the morning and early afternoon the sun will come. >> that warm feeling inside from

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my difficult conversation with my difficult conversation with my guest who's an expert on plane crashes, who wants to get on one? i don't fancy it these days, but we thought we'd get started. let's get your latest . news. >> good afternoon from the gb newsroom at 4:00. your headlines. nigel farage has been criticised by the prime minister and the labour leader over his comments suggesting the west provoked russia's invasion of ukraine. rishi sunak says it was completely wrong . the reform uk completely wrong. the reform uk leader made the claim during an interview with the bbc's nick robinson last night. mr farage said the expansion of the eu and nato gave putin a reason to tell the russian people they're coming for us again. the russian people they're coming for us again . the prime coming for us again. the prime minister says the comments play into the russian president's hands, which the labour leader has echoed the farage's comments about russia and ukraine are disgraceful. >> i've always been clear that

putin bears responsibility, sole responsibility for the russian aggression in ukraine, and we have always stood behind ukraine and supported ukraine, and so far we've done it united across parliament. i've made it my business to ensure that the opposition stood with the government on this issue. so seriously, did we take it? and of course, with our nato allies , of course, with our nato allies, the conservatives say they're going to focus on the night time economy in the first 100 days of government and secure the future of britain's pubs, bars, restaurants and music venues . restaurants and music venues. >> the tory party says a comprehensive review would be launched to look at licensing laws, planning rules and other enforcement they say, is holding back growth. it says the sector was disproportionately impacted by the covid pandemic and the war in ukraine, which drove up food, drink and energy prices. rishi sunak says representatives for bars , pubs and music venues for bars, pubs and music venues deserve more support for the work they put into serving local communities. it's right that

they get the support they need. >> they've been let down by laboun >> they've been let down by labour, whether that's here in london, where those types of venues are closing at a rapid rate with multiple job losses, orindeed rate with multiple job losses, or indeed in wales, where labour is hiking up their taxes, a conservative government will support all those venues to make sure that they can continue creating jobs and drive our economy forward, and continue providing an enormous amount of enjoyment in our local communities . communities. >> meanwhile, the labour leader has outlined his party's plans to tackle delayed compensation for those affected by the windrush scandal. the scandal refers to migrants from the canbbean refers to migrants from the caribbean who started to arrive to the uk in 1948 to help rebuild britain after the war. sir keir starmer is pledging today a fundamental reset to respect and dignity for the windrush generation. the labour leader met with people who came to britain during that time, and their family members in vauxhall . he says the conservatives have presided over a failing compensation scheme, which has only paid out 2500 claims out of an estimated 15,000 people originally considered eligible .

originally considered eligible. meanwhile, labour's pledging to put water companies under special measures as over 10,000 people have been hospitalised due to water borne diseases under the conservatives rule. labour say they'll give the water regulator powers to block the payment of any bonuses to polluting water bosses until they've, quote, cleaned up their filth. they've also vowed to make water bosses who continue to oversee lawbreaking face criminal charges, as well as self monitoring and force all companies to accept independent monitoring to stop companies covering up illegal sewage dumping. a shadow environment secretary, steve reed, says things need to change. >> it's the last general election. over 10,000 people have been hospitalised because they contracted water borne diseases while they were in the sea or after they went in one of our rivers. that's not just a bad stomach that's getting so sick. they had to go to hospital andifs sick. they had to go to hospital and it's happened because the conservative party went completely soft on the water companies who are doing this. so

if labour wins the general election on the 4th of july, everything will change. we'll put the water companies under tough special measures. so the water bosses who are overseeing this failure will face criminal charges. if they keep doing it, they'll find themselves in the dock. >> and the liberal democrats are setting out a plan to save chalk streams from environmental disaster. it comes as analysis by the party found over 48,500 hours worth of sewage was discharged into chalk streams last year, more than doubled the previous year. the proposals would see a public consultation launched within the first 100 days of a lib dem government, in which rivers and lakes could be awarded new blue flag status to protect them from sewage dumping. lib dems leader sir ed davey has ensured it won't cost the public to set up that new system. >> actually, it's really, really quite cheap and we do a public consultation to start off so the pubuc consultation to start off so the public can be involved in it and the blue flag status, the

applications are really quite cheap. i think it's about 425 from from memory pounds. cheap. i think it's about 425 from from memory pounds . so from from memory pounds. so we're not talking a lot of money. what we're we have put investment because you need to get behind it is in a new regulator. we've called it the clean water authority. we're not happy with the way the regulators have been monitoring and enforcing the law. on the water companies. they've been allowing them to get away with this filthy sewage, dumping pro—palestinian protesters have sprayed red paint on a historic building at the university of cambridge . cambridge. >> students and members of the palestine action group targeted senate house this afternoon, a building that has been used for graduation ceremonies since the 18th century. the group says the action marked the end of an academic year where the university of cambridge has funded, enabled and normalised the ongoing palestinian genocide. a spokesman for the university said they strongly condemned this act of vandalism , condemned this act of vandalism, the search has intensified for british teenager jay slater, who went missing in tenerife . jay

went missing in tenerife. jay travelled for a music festival on the first holiday without his parents specialist dog teams have now joined police and firefighters in the search operation, which has entered its sixth day. the 19 year old has not been heard from since he called a friend shortly before 9:00 monday morning, saying he was lost and needed water. he was lost and needed water. he was last seen in the northwestern mountain village of masca , and the prince of wales masca, and the prince of wales has thanked taylorswift for a great concert as he shared a photo of the pop superstar taking a selfie with him and his children, prince george and princess charlotte, watching the us singer perform at wembley stadium . prince william was also stadium. prince william was also spotted shaking his arms to shakeit spotted shaking his arms to shake it off as he celebrated his 42nd birthday. swift posted her selfie with prince william, george and charlotte alongside her boyfriend , nfl star travis her boyfriend, nfl star travis kelce . and for the latest kelce. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news.

corach rambler. that's now it's back to . nana. back to. nana. >> thank you sophia. just coming up to eight minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua eco vandalism. i've had enough. this week. eco vandals just stop oil descended onto stonehenge to spray the legendary stones orange during the summer solstice. they then broke into stansted airport , broke into stansted airport, where the private jets are parked, to teach us all a lesson . they were apparently looking for taylor swift's plane , even for taylor swift's plane, even though, despite the private jet taylor by all accounts, is hot on the environment. look, i can't take seriously anyone who purports to protect the environment, then owns a private jet. remember meghan markle when she was banging on about her climate preaching? that's when i sort of went off her and then you remember what happened at cop? which one was it? cop28.

where are we now? where they all flew out , by private jet, that's flew out, by private jet, that's the one that happened in scotland. cop28, they descended onto cop. the idea was to, have electrically powered cars, which in the end they then had to power , the evs with a diesel power, the evs with a diesel motor to provide electricity . it motor to provide electricity. it was hilarious. how stupid do they think we are? but breaking and entering then vandalising is criminal. but you can see why they're doing it. because over they're doing it. because over the past few years , the the past few years, the punishment for such acts has been woeful. lbcc's analysis revealed 99.9% of arrested just stop oil protesters avoid jail, and only four have served prison time after being sentenced for blocking roads and defacing national monuments , lord walney national monuments, lord walney told lbc just stop oil are actively bragging about how few of their activists end up being convicted for the extreme sabotage and disruption that they're committing. so why are they're committing. so why are they getting away with it? i ask

why indeed? because juries might see them as misguided do gooders. i doubt they'd get away with it if they were maybe black and in balaclavas, though. do you instead read? they've got names like tarquin and many are students, all retired just stop oil say 139 of its members have been handled handed jail terms for offences such as criminal damage and obstruction of the highway. but only 100 but 135 of these were released following their sentencing , because the their sentencing, because the time that it took that they'd spent on remand and awaiting for court hearings. so it is a failure of the justice system as well. i say we're going about this the wrong way. time to get tough on these vandals. forget jail, i say. find them . send jail, i say. find them. send them the bill individually to fix the damage that they've caused . and if they own homes, caused. and if they own homes, they can. that can also come under the remit . and if they under the remit. and if they don't and are on benefits, then stop the benefits , then get them stop the benefits, then get them to clean up the mess they've made. i will happily film that .

made. i will happily film that. right. it's my hay fever. made. i will happily film that. right. it's my hay fever . right? right. it's my hay fever. right? before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, has labour turned its back on women that says jk rowling says that she can't trust sir keir starmer with his gender ideology. so has gender ideology ruined ruined the party's chances ? that's my party's chances? that's my question. i'm asking what do you think? has labour turned its back on women? and at 450 it's royal roundup time and angela levin will be here with the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu as prince william celebrates his 42nd birthday. what do you think? what's next for the royal family? then, at five, it's this week's difficult conversations with terry. tozer will be in the studio as he talks about his life experience of being on a plane. have you gone off flying ? plane. have you gone off flying? that's coming up in the next houn that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay see .

comments gbnews.com/yoursay see. right. let's welcome again to my panel. right. let's welcome again to my panel . that's looking quite panel. that's looking quite sparse. it'sjust panel. that's looking quite sparse. it's just lizzie cundy for now. that's all you need, darling? yes. i suspect our other guests got stuck in the traffic because it's a nightmare. there's eco activists. well, yes , there are activists. well, yes, there are eco activists. >> and as i walked past, that's obviously there's no traffic going through. it took me three hours to get here, they're climbing over winston churchill's statue now. why isn't anything being done about this? yeah, it's so disrespectful in every sense of the word. there are police around, but they're just standing there watching . i felt standing there watching. i felt like myself saying, oh, get down. but, i was running late because of because of them, but this has gone on too far, it's too much nana. and i think we have to treat it differently. like you say. find them, find them. i want to talk to the parents of these people. think, what are they doing? would they glue themselves to the roads,

stopping hospital appointments? it's actually ruining people's everyday lives. but importantly, it's actually, you know, it could cause death, which it has done because people can't get well. >> well, they would argue there's a climate emergency that will cause death of millions. and they would argue that. and they would. i mean, we had ben lawson in earlier , you know, and lawson in earlier, you know, and he saw this as a serious climate emergency, which if we are correct and co2 is the enemy, then potentially. but if we're wrong and there's some other enemy that we need to keep our eyes on, you know, everyone's so fixed on this. i think this isn't the way to do it anyway. why protest in this manner? >> well, it's very funny. when i've interviewed anyone from just stop oil, they haven't got any answers. they don't actually understand. and really , they understand. and really, they should be protesting in china, india, usa , where there are such india, usa, where there are such huge, carbon emissions. india, usa, where there are such huge, carbon emissions . and the huge, carbon emissions. and the fact is, by them doing this and wrecking people's lives, what they've done at stonehenge is absolutely appalling, they have to be fined and, and promptly.

and so there they'll be hurt. and so there they'll be hurt. and i think the only way, as you say, is in the pocket, but sadly, we've got even old age pensioners doing this. >> well, they have they will have a house because a lot of these people seem to be quite wealthy. yeah that's because they've got time on their hands and they know with the disaster of the criminal justice system that they're never, ever going to really be facing anybody because by the time they are as well, whatever punishment they'll be given, it will they will have served this whilst waiting. >> so they should do community service. >> well, that's what i'm saying. >> well, that's what i'm saying. >> clear up, clear up. but you know what that spray they did on stonehenge was if it had rained, it would have ruined it because it would have ruined it because it was it was. there was cornflour. yeah. that's right. and it was it's so disturbing that they can be let you know. they know they're not going to get punished . they've got the get punished. they've got the two old grannies. may i call them in their 70s who had their hammer and chisel at the magna carta. and you know, they're thinking because they're elderly ladies , they're not they're not ladies, they're not they're not going to get a, you know, punishment. they just they had like a i think what was a 70 year old and a 20 year old.

>> and this is, this is the dichotomy. you've got one who's very old, who's probably retired and one who's a student. so nobody probably really actively working . and they've got time on working. and they've got time on their hands to do this and they believe that. but my point is, could you imagine if these were and we've seen how the justice system works. these were black men wearing balaclavas doing exactly the same thing. yeah. >> it would be a very different story . nana. and they all seem story. nana. and they all seem like champagne socialists. let's go away with mummy and daddy on on holidays . and it's so on holidays. and it's so hypocritical. you mentioned meghan markle. they're going on. you know, she suddenly this eco warrior who has, you know, so many flights on a private jet unnecessary. her baby shower in new york. i mean please don't. it's just so hypocritical . it's just so hypocritical. >> well, it's these celebrities that they were targeting, weren't they? but meghan would argue, and prince harry, they have said that they're offsetting their carbon as taylor swift does. but we all know that carbon offsetting is a bit of a scam . it is. and if it bit of a scam. it is. and if it does return the carbon at some point, it will be in decades or hundreds of years time . and by

hundreds of years time. and by that time, well, you know, the damage is done. >> exactly. but who who's, you know, paying for the damage that they've done? we've just seen them spraying those private jets. who's paying for this? they should pay. they should pay, they should pay. they should pay, they should pay and they should do community service and clean up, you know, really seriously, this should be enforced because sadly, you know, a slap on the wrist, they're not being sent to prison because our prisons are full and falling down. >> what also takes too long? >> what also takes too long? >> it takes too long to. yeah, it takes too long to process it. and something seriously needs to be done . this is disgusting. be done. this is disgusting. we're watching them spray orange paint over an aeroplane. how dare they do that to people's property? >> i just think that, you know, criminal. first of all, the way we're punishing them is wrong. i think the police could take control of that immediately. because it's not as if they're not guilty . they're on camera not guilty. they're on camera actually doing it. so the punishment should be an immediate offence of, first of all, paying for the damage and clearing it up. that's it. and it should be put through very quickly within a day or so. it

shouldn't take weeks to go through some. what are they going to plead. they're, they're they're doing it. you will wipe up what you have what you've put into the into the atmosphere. >> well they we've got to start doing this because look we've got wimbledon coming up. we know that's going to be disrupted i'm sure like it was last year. and that has a detrimental effect on the game on the players. they they're now getting away with it and they know they're getting away with it and they're doing it even more. we have to put a stop to it. >> we have to put a stop to it. but i'd also argue that in terms of damage as well, i think they need to get a grip on water companies and people like that who are also causing, you know, literally vandalising our waterways as the way i see it as well, we don't seem to be persecuted or punishing people who are doing bad things to the environment. whilst purporting to be doing good things. well, that's very odd. >> and it's because there isn't the punishment and nana, look, we've got a shoplifting epidemic . people are, you know, you're allowed to, you know, get away with stealing now. no one does anything. and this is why this country is on its knees. >> well, what do you think? i'll get in touch at

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hour. the great british debate. this hour . and i'm the great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking, has labour turned its back on women now? jk rowling has accused sir keir starmer of abandoning women who are concerned about transgender rights. the labour leader has previously been critical of his own mp, rosie duffield, for saying only women have a cervix. he said it's not something that should be said, which is odd because it's the truth. but sir keir starmer seems to have changed his mind, agreeing that with tony blair after he said a woman after tony said a woman has a vagina and a man is with a penis. well, today gb news challenged sir keir over his views on gender and here's what he had to say. >> i think it's very important in all political debate that we treat all views with respect and all people with dignity , and all people with dignity, and that's what i've tried to do throughout this . i'm very proud throughout this. i'm very proud of the progress that we've made as a labour party, as labour governments in the past, when it comes to women's rights , i'm comes to women's rights, i'm conscious that the battle on women's rights is never over. we need to make further progress in this country and i hope if we're

able to win the general election, we will do so . but election, we will do so. but what i want to do is to ensure that we make that progress by persuading people to vote. labour at the general election, turn their back on this government, usher in a labour government, usher in a labour government to rebuild the country , but also use it as country, but also use it as a reset moment where we can bring the country together and ensure that all debate is done in a respectful way that i think everybody wants. and so i think there's a real opportunity here now to make some progress. but so that was sir keir starmer earlier as he was speaking to katherine forster here on gb news. >> so the great british debate this hour , i'm asking did he this hour, i'm asking did he answer the question. has labour turned its back on women? what was the question? right now, though, i'm joined by debbie hayton, a transgender teacher and journalist, and also katy. jon went a diversity and inclusion facilitator. i'm going to start with you, debbie. debbie start with you. in your view, do you think the labour party has , in a sense turned its party has, in a sense turned its back on women? >> well, there's been an issue, hasn't there? nana over several years with what's been going on with rosie duffield? rosie's been thrown to the wolves, it

seems to me, and i think there's lots of words being said and lots of words being said and lots of words being said and lots of clever words being said, but we need to see action here. and i believe that the labour party is standing for women. when keir starmer is in canterbury, knocking on doors, canvassing and delivering leaflets. that will show me by starmer's actions that he actually cares about women and cares about rosie duffield , cares about rosie duffield, because he's not the only one in his party that sort of backed the whole idea of the sort of the whole idea of the sort of the trans trans ideology, which is, you know, it's fair enough . is, you know, it's fair enough. >> i don't there's nothing wrong with someone who chooses to be trans or who is trans, but the point is that the support for women does in some respects seem to be lacking on some occasions, or not being able to identify that a woman has a cervix seems a bit odd. let's go to you, katy. john wayne, what do you think about this? >> well, it's difficult because when we're when we get ahead of an election, you get some people, some parties, some politicians, some independents all shouting a kind of a single issue politics. >> but we don't live single issue struggles , we don't live

issue struggles, we don't live single issue lives. and most parties are built around consensus of opinions and the labour party, in much the way the tory party was in the past, should be able to be a broad church of opinion without kind of having a witch hunt of its own. >> members . and, you know, rosie >> members. and, you know, rosie duffield should be in the party, but so should other people who pro, lgb and t in other ways as well . and it's got to be you well. and it's got to be you can't have an election fought on a single issue such as this because 80% of, you know, kind of women are actually voting laboun of women are actually voting labour, lib dem and green under the age of 50 anyway. and for them, that is not the most important thing for the next five years. for them, the most important thing for the next five years is to change the current government. and as keir starmer says , once into starmer says, once into parliament, then have the respectful debates , then try and respectful debates, then try and have that diversity of views and still treat people with dignity. >> we've got to try and prioritise kind of individual demands and find ways to have the common good. >> but but do you, do you think that where he was confused about

women having a cervix is a reasonable thing for him to sort of be confused about? if you see what i mean? katie, because , what i mean? katie, because, yeah, i get you, it's not going to be a single issue that people should be maybe voting on. there'll be a complex range of reasons why people vote for a party. but one of them, as a woman myself , party. but one of them, as a woman myself, i party. but one of them, as a woman myself , i look at that party. but one of them, as a woman myself, i look at that and think, well, one of them would potentially be, does that man know what a woman is? so do you think he was reasonable in what he said about the cervix? were that it's something that shouldn't be said is what he said. >> it's no what something that shouldn't be said is absolute rubbish. >> i mean, basically everyone, of course, everyone knows what a woman is. the fact that we've spent like five years or more fudging around the issue of not being able to speak on his biology, and yet on his dignity around certain lives that may be different . you know, i can quite different. you know, i can quite happily say and talk what a man is, what a woman is, and describe also people who are trans, and indeed some people who may be intersex, etc. we should be able to name biology , should be able to name biology, but also be dignified and inclusive around , those lives

inclusive around, those lives that are different and at the same. and then do that in a way that we haven't done for the last 5 or 6 years, which is find a way to kind of integrate include and i'm not going to go down the be kind line, but certainly but go down the respect line and the human rights line. how do we do that around trans and other different lives in a way that doesn't ride roughshod over, over women's language and women's spaces? and it is clear that the debate has moved and it was clear that it was the wrong thing to have a no debate line from the likes of stonewall a number of years ago. what we should have done is actually what keir just said. how do we have a respectful debate? and i don't mind how long it took him to get there. but even if you're late to the party, let's have the respectful debate now. but let's have it in the next parliament and not make it distract from the current last two weeks of the election campaigns. >> well, you know, some people might mind how long it took him. i mean, he's not alone. i mean, he's other mps, people like dawn butler. she was a former mp for brent central . she announced on brent central. she announced on tv that a child is born without

sex at the beginning. i mean, debbie, this is this is something that is concerning for women hearing that other women are actually now corroborating this and saying, oh yeah, that you're born without a sex. come on. >> well, this is nonsense, isn't it ? this is >> well, this is nonsense, isn't it? this is it's >> well, this is nonsense, isn't it ? this is it's absolute it? this is it's absolute nonsense that that quote about babies and sex. but what we're seeing here is politicians trying to be clever, trying to use words, that enable them to , use words, that enable them to, sit on the fence, say what people, what they think that people, what they think that people want to hear what we as voters want are politicians who are willing to be honest. that a woman is a is a female human being. and such like. and if politicians are trying to use clever words rather than be honest on that, then you begin to wonder what else you can actually believe . because katie actually believe. because katie was sort of saying it's a single issue, and she doubts that somebody's vote will be decided on that. but that's quite a big issue , debbie, to be confused issue, debbie, to be confused about or even show a level of

confusion. >> well, there is and it's and it's indicative of other issues. if, labour politicians can't be honest about what a woman is and what a man is, and you get the feeling that they're trying to choose their words carefully and cleverly in order to perhaps satisfy an activist lobby. people who have who have influence over the party. if the if that's happening with this question , you wonder what's question, you wonder what's happening on other issues and across across the piece. so yes, it's a single issue, but it does indicate indicate the way of thinking, perhaps within the party, and to you, katie, okay. so let's say another member of the labour party, stella creasy, the labour party, stella creasy, the candidate , she said, do the candidate, she said, do i think some women were born with penises? yes, but they are now women and i respect that . does women and i respect that. does that to you? katie does that sound right to you that some women were born with penises? this is what stella creasy has said. >> yeah, well, we obviously know what she means by that. and

she's obviously not saying it in a biological sense. i think the clarity of language that would help is to say, yeah, some there are trans women who were born with penises because the only way to trans women that the only way to trans women that the only way to trans women that the only way to be a trans woman is to be born male and to be born with a penis, and then some may choose to get rid of it in surgery, some may retain it, but they are trans women. they are not women . trans women. they are not women. and i think the whole muddle has been trying has been where people have reduced it to an ideological identity around sex and gender and not being able to say what's what's true and what's obvious, and you can say what's obvious, and you can say what is true without being hurtful, without being disrespect full. you can actually, you know, be, you know , use language that avoids the things that you're stumbling over but not in the wriggle room way that debbie's kind of talking about that politicians have been unable to state the bleeding obvious for the last number of years, but instead to actually state the obvious in a kind way and a truthful way, and then also say, and it's not i,

it's not a case of either or. it's a case of saying women are women, men are men, and there are trans people and they navigate and they transition on that in that sex way . but they that in that sex way. but they actually, you know, state the truth in that sense , but kindly. truth in that sense, but kindly. >> but you see, this is this is the problem. why they're conflating a trans woman with a woman. nobody has an issue with a trans woman being called a trans woman or a woman being called a woman, but to pretend that the two things are the same is, i think , the issue. i think is, i think, the issue. i think that's what people, feel concerned about, because then it crosses over into female only spaces and things like that, where any predatory male and that's not trans women who are just trans women are getting on with their lives, but these are there are men who will try and manipulate , this and take manipulate, this and take advantage of it, as we've already seen . final word to you, already seen. final word to you, debbie hayton . debbie hayton. >> yes. i think what we're seeing here is politicians try to trying to wriggle, and what we want are politicians who are honest, but also we need a space

for people who can think differently. yes, some people might think that trans women are women. other people may disagree, may well disagree with them. i know what i think, but we need to be protecting an environment where different, where politicians say what they think rather than be, rather than be frightened to say what they think. or as rosie duffield has been actually having to hire security guards and being unable to go to hustings because of what she thinks. >> so finally then, debbie, do you think that labour have a problem, a woman problem , i problem, a woman problem, i certainly think that labour have got a big problem and they've got a big problem and they've got a big problem and they've got a big problem with, allowing allowing people to , express what allowing people to, express what they think rather than what, what what the, group ought rather than what they think . rather than what they think. right. rather than what other people think. >> yeah. well, they'd argue that legally, a trans woman can actually become a woman. katy john, same question to you. do you think that labour have a bit of an issue or a problem with women , no, because i still think women, no, because i still think the majority of women are backing labour anyway. i think

the tory party have a bigger problem with the election . and problem with the election. and it isn't about women, it's about the general electorate not going to re—elect them. but these discussions, as i say, can happen afterjuly discussions, as i say, can happen after july the fourth discussions, as i say, can happen afterjuly the fourth and happen after july the fourth and we need to find a better way to do politics. and i agree with debbie here that we need to do politics, honesty. we need to biology, honesty, honestly, and we need to do kind of respect and inclusion honestly. and where we haven't been able to have honest debates, where we haven't been able to use language, that means what it says, then then people do get stuck and muddled, and we need to go beyond that and actually find a better way to do both politics, to do kind of , politics, to do kind of, science, to do kind of inclusion and find better language for it all that is actually respectful of human dignity throughout . of human dignity throughout. >> well, we just need to sort of tell the truth, i suppose would be helpful as well, wouldn't it? thank you very much, katy. jon went and also debbie hayton, really good to talk to you both. well, what do you think this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, has labour turned its back on women? we'll hear the thoughts of my panel. lizzie cundy and

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i won't, i won't forget. but now it's i won't, i won't forget. but now wsfime i won't, i won't forget. but now it's time for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking has labour turned its back on women now? jk rowling has accused sir keir starmer of abandoning women who are concerned about trans gender rights. now the labour leader has previously been critical of his own mp, rosie duffield, for saying that only women have a cervix, or confirming the narrative that only women have cervix. but now sir keir starmer seems to have changed his mind, agreeing with tony blair after tony blair said a woman is with a vagina and a man is with a penis. i mean, i can't even believe that we are here where we are. are we really here where we are. are we really here where we are. are we really here where we are saying this out loud and it being controversial? well, today gb news challenge sir keir to explain the difference between what tony blair said and what people like jk rowling have said. and here's his response . said. and here's his response. >> i think it's very important in all political debate that we treat all views with respect and all people with dignity. and that's what i've tried to do throughout this. i'm very proud of the progress that we've made as a labour party, as labour

governments in the past. when it comes to women's rights, i'm conscious that the battle on women's rights is never over. we need to make further progress in this country and i hope if we're able to win the general election, we will do so. but what i want to do is to ensure that we make that progress by persuading people to vote. labour at the general election, turn their back on this government , usher in turn their back on this government, usher in a labour government, usher in a labour government to rebuild the country, but also use it as a reset moment where we can bring the country together and ensure that all debate is done in a respectful way that i think everybody wants. and so i think there's a real opportunity here now to make some progress. but >> now he walks off and she catherine then says, you haven't answered the question because he carries on walking. i do find it really annoying when politicians he's not alone . when they're he's not alone. when they're asked a question, they then obfuscate and they spend ages talking about something else. and you and i know that when somebody asks a question , you somebody asks a question, you are physically waiting for the answer. if you do not answer the question for me, that is very

irritating. so for the great british debate, sir, i'm asking has labour turned its back on women? well, let's see what my panel maker that i'm joined by broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and chairman of the republicans overseas, greg swenson. he's here. yeah i'll start with lizzie, well, for me , start with lizzie, well, for me, a man who can't define a woman has no right to run this country. and for me, i am very, very worried. keir starmer has a knack of not answering any questions. >> well, he did change his mind, though. so to be fair to him, he did come, come to ground and say 99.9% of women don't have a penis. it's biology thousand. do biology, it's biology. >> nana i'm afraid keir starmer is just trying to please the minority he's using. actually, the trans community as a political football. that's what he's doing. and i would say no, but he would argue that in law because obviously he's a very litigious man. >> he would argue that in law, a woman can have a penis because legally you can then become a woman. but that's not biologically.

>> the man can't answer a question and then he u—turns. he's done already 27 u—turns so far, i would say ladies vote very carefully and wisely . on very carefully and wisely. on the 4th of july, we had the equality act, which was in 1928, which was a long fought battle for our rights. don't let keir starmer take away our safe places. this man will do this. and he will not answer the question. i think it's appalling. i think we cannot have a man who couldn't answer that question . he did eventually that question. he did eventually scares me. yeah, he did eventually. it shouldn't be eventually. it shouldn't be eventually. well, this is why. because it's not. then it makes me think about him. what else is he going to flip flop on? and it's like it's not truthful. he's not sincere . he's not sincere. >> well, katie john went was saying that it's just, you know, it wouldn't be a single issue that somebody might look at this and see that. but it is quite an important issue . if somebody important issue. if somebody can't, it's a totally and i'm sorry we're women aren't leaving the labour party. >> the labour party are abandoning women. they are

erasing women . and i, for one, erasing women. and i, for one, am not going to stand for it. okay. >> greg sanderson, what do you think? i mean, is, is he being a bit too harsh on the labour party? i mean, but because lizzie, to be fair , there are lizzie, to be fair, there are many women within the labour party who have supported all of this narrative. you've got emily thornberry, you've got anneliese dodds. >> they're trying to please. >> they're trying to please. >> they've all said things that are slightly ridiculous. stella creasy they've all said things that we all know better. >> of course, it should be a very simple answer. and so keir has a way of, you know, it's almost like bill clinton. >> he has that gift for not answering the question or evading the question. but they're of this issue . so by catering to of this issue. so by catering to the progressive, they're missing the progressive, they're missing the mainstream of both parties and or the electorate in general. and if you look at again, they're on the wrong side of this in 2019, in the uk, 53% of this in 2019, in the uk, 53% of those surveyed thought that trans gender people or people that identify as transgender should be allowed to change their birth certificate. the

gender on their birth certificate it by 2022, that was down to 30. so in other words, the people are realising the absurdity of this, this radical left trans movement. so it's not popular with the people. 30 only 30% would would advocate that. so by by appealing to that narrow 30, they're missing the mainstream of the electorate. >> but it seems old. i mean, dawn butler, she was a former mp for brent central. she announced on tv as a child as born without sex at the beginning. i mean , sex at the beginning. i mean, you know. >> yeah, it's absurd. i mean , >> yeah, it's absurd. i mean, and look, even approval of transgenderism has gone from 82 to 64. so, you know, there , to 64. so, you know, there, there running against the tide, they're swimming against the tide on this. and it's the same thing in the us. the, the democrats have have been basically co—opted by the radical left wing of their party, which is relatively small. and so all 203 democrats in the house of representatives , in the house of representatives, all of them, voted against legislation that would ban trans

men from playing in women's sports . sports. >> all trans women. >> all trans women. >> it's yeah, whatever you want to call it. >> i mean, but no, but you see, i had that was legislation to protect women's rights and girls rights in sports. >> and they all voted against it. >> well, i had two trans women earlier, katy jon went and also debbie hayton talking about it. and they you could see they found elements of this slightly laughable as well. and this is the trans community looking at that and saying it doesn't surprise me. come on. you know, because it doesn't do a service for anybody to conflate a trans woman with a woman because we all have slightly different needs anyway. so to look after those needs properly is to work out what something is instead of replacing it with something else. and there's nothing wrong with that. >> i don't understand why the treatment of rosie duffield , treatment of rosie duffield, we've got it's absolutely appalling. keir starmer should be ashamed of himself and i'm sorry. look, the trans community should be treated with care and kindness and understanding , like kindness and understanding, like every community, like what we all should be treated equally . all should be treated equally. but keir starmer seems to be wanting to erase women and i am

very scared about this. >> let's be fair, he did not finish answering the question. no, this is the thing we want them to answer the questions, even if it's an answer that we don't like. he doesn't answer anything. >> look, i want, i know, look what he's talking about. tax do we know what taxes he will put in. we he doesn't answer. he does not answer the question. and this is what makes me really scared. and i think he's going to be very dangerous for this country. okay. >> well some people might argue that he was being litigious because of women biologically or in law can become a trans woman, which is a man can legally become a woman in law. and of course, you know, keir starmer is very litigious, but the show is very litigious, but the show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices. their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing, leigh harris joins me now. leigh harris, what do you think ? i mean, you know, he you think? i mean, you know, he definitely obfuscated that question from catherine, which is a shame, because we just want a straight answer, do they seem to have an issue with women in terms of that ?

terms of that? >> yeah, i mean, i this is something i genuinely think about quite often than i'm the only bloke in the house. >> i have a wife and an eight year old daughter, and i think jk rowling is absolutely correct . keir starmer has been extremely weak and indecisive in defending women and girls rights on this. >> and as we know, he's been all over the place on this issue, just as lizzie has said. but in my view , keir starmers instincts my view, keir starmers instincts is to support this woke gender ideology. all we have to do is look at the way he was very supportive of nicola sturgeon's dangerous and crazy gender recognition reform bill, his instinctive , knee jerk reaction instinctive, knee jerk reaction was to support it until, of course , he realised public course, he realised public opinion was against him. he changed his mind and as you've already pointed out, we can look at the way he's treated rosie duffield when she said that only women have a cervix, he said that was wrong. >> but worst of all, he also failed to defend her after she received death threats. and as far as i'm aware, he has never apologised. >> now, i know that captain sir flip flop has dropped labour's

self—id policy, but even after the publication of the cass review, he is still surrounded by woke identity obsessed mps in his own party that support this , his own party that support this, in my view, frankly, dangerous ideology . and i think it's fair ideology. and i think it's fair to say there's a strong possibility he'll change his mind again. >> well, listen, he has actually changed his mind on women . he changed his mind on women. he agrees with tony blair, which is agrees with tony blair, which is a shape shift. thank you very much, lee harris. really good to talk to you. lesley harris a great british voice angela levin will be here to give

it's royal roundup time. ooh! angela. ooh. i feel a bit sick with that. angela levin joins us now. angela, what's been going on in the world of royals? >> well, the best thing is taylor swift , who had 90,000 taylor swift, who had 90,000 people, and three of them was a prince william and his two older children . children. >> and that was his party. and

it was so lovely to see them huge smiles, enjoying it. 100. and that's just over the photograph that we all saw in the papers today, or read where they were in, in norfolk , and it they were in, in norfolk, and it was his birthday and they were jumping all the children with their father over a huge mountain of grass and i thought that he was looking straight at his wife and thinking, what have you done to me ? the two kids on you done to me? the two kids on the other side were grinning their head off, and little one, little louis was hanging on to his father really tight, and i thought it was just a brilliant, brilliant picture that she's so talented. princess catherine, to do that. it was absolutely wonderful. and i think we should be very proud of her for doing that, because she was showing that, because she was showing that they were enjoying themselves happy, and it was as as wonderful as possible. now we move to on ascot and that was

very interesting to see how prince william managed there. he had a carriage with camilla when the king didn't come chatting very nicely. he had a lot of help from the duchess of edinburgh, the middletons. he held hands with mrs. middleton. she got her shoe stuck in the grass and he was helping her, and it was just so warm and loving. people say that the royal family is cold and don't show any emotion, but there they were, all looking after him. zara put her arms around him so he. i think he felt very much that he was being looked after and it was lovely . so, on the and it was lovely. so, on the other hand, we heard today that the king will probably not be able to go to new zealand after his, outward , to go to australia his, outward, to go to australia because he's not well enough to do that. and this is october. and i felt rather sad about that because it means he's not going

to be able to do too much in the future . and i think that's such future. and i think that's such a shame. but today, the japanese will be arriving on planes and that will be very nice. the emperor and empress, and i'm sure that will boost him up with a wonderful buffet on tuesday evening. >> lovely angela, loving as ever royal biographer, joins us live. the royal roundup state and loads more to come in the next hour. houn >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hi there! welcome along to the latest update from the met office for gb news. some showers, especially across southeast england through the rest of today but dry for most and increasingly sunny skies through today and the next few days.in through today and the next few days. in fact, with rising temperatures. but for the time being, there is some cloud around and for western scotland. for northern ireland, that cloud thickens during the evening, some outbreaks of light and

patchy rain and drizzle move in that rain and drizzle tends to sink south into northern england, parts of wales southwest england as well. some low cloud around by dawn, some mist around coastal parts but clear skies elsewhere, some fog patches here and there and temperatures in the single figures first thing in a few sheltered spots, but otherwise actually plenty of sunshine for the east midlands, east anglia and the south east. temperatures rising quickly through the morning. we've got this coastal mist and fog across south wales and southwest england, some drizzle over the hills here as well, but for the far north of england, for scotland and northern ireland, we're going to see plenty of sunshine during the morning and temperatures rising quickly through the day. but for many it is essentially a fine day, albeit rather cloudy through the midlands, wales and the southwest. during the morning and early afternoon. the sun will come through in many places. however, if you're

heading to the coast, south devon, south cornwall, parts of south wales could be plagued by some low cloud and mist at times , where we get the sunshine coming through up to 25 celsius in the south—east, low 20s elsewhere across the uk and plenty of sunshine as the afternoon comes to an end. meanwhile, across western scotland, northern ireland again, some thicker cloud will arrive overnight, but that will tend to disperse by monday , tend to disperse by monday, which will be another largely fine day. and watch how the temperatures increase through next week, up to 30 celsius by midweek. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sperm . inside from boxt boilers sperm. >> answers of weather on

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comments suggesting the west provoked russia's invasion of ukraine. rishi sunak says it was completely wrong. the reform uk leader made the claim during an interview with the bbc's nick robinson last night. interview with the bbc's nick robinson last night . mr farage robinson last night. mr farage said the expansion of the eu and nato gave putin a reason to tell the russian people their coming for us again. the prime minister says the comments play into the russian president's hands, which the labour leader has echoed the farage's comments about russia and ukraine are disgraceful. >> i've always been clear that putin bears responsibility, sole responsibility for the russian aggression in ukraine and we have always stood behind ukraine and supported ukraine, and so far we've done it united across parliament. i've made it my business to ensure that the opposition stood with the government on this issue. so seriously, did we take it and of course, with our nato allies , course, with our nato allies, the conservatives say they're going to focus on the night time

economy in the first 100 days of government and secure the future of britain's pubs, bars, restaurants and music venues . restaurants and music venues. >> the tory party says a comprehensive review would be launched to look at licensing laws, planning rules and other enforcements they say is holding back growth. it says the sector was disproportionately impacted by the covid pandemic and the war in ukraine, which drove up food, drink and energy prices. rishi sunak says representatives from bars, pubs and music venues deserve more support for the work they put into serving local communities. it's right that they get the support they need. >> they've been let down by laboun >> they've been let down by labour, whether that's here in london, where those types of venues are closing at a rapid rate with multiple job losses, orindeed rate with multiple job losses, or indeed in wales, where labour is hiking up their taxes, a conservative government will support all those venues to make sure that they can continue creating jobs and drive our economy forward, and continue providing an enormous amount of enjoyment in our local communities . communities. >> labour is pledging to put

water companies under special measures as over 10,000 people have been hospitalised due to water borne diseases under the conservatives rule. labour say they'll give the water regulator powers to block the payment of any bonuses to polluting water bosses until they've, quote , bosses until they've, quote, cleaned up their filth. they've also vowed to make water bosses who continue to oversee law breaking face criminal charges, as well as end self—monitoring and force all companies to accept independent monitoring to stop companies covering up illegal sewage dumping . illegal sewage dumping. meanwhile, the liberal democrats are setting out a plan to save chalk streams from environmental disaster . it chalk streams from environmental disaster. it comes as analysis by the party found over 48,500 hours worth of sewage, was discharged into chalk streams last year . that's more than last year. that's more than double the previous year. the proposals would see a public consultation launched within the first 100 days of a lib dem government, in which rivers and lakes could be awarded new blue flag status to protect them from

sewage dumping. lib dems leader sir ed davey has ensured it won't cost the to public set up that new system. >> actually, it's really, really quite cheap and we do a public consultation to start off so the pubuc consultation to start off so the public can be involved in it and the blue flag status, the applications are really quite cheap. i think it's about 425 from from memory pounds. cheap. i think it's about 425 from from memory pounds . so from from memory pounds. so we're not talking a lot of money. what we're we have put investment because you need to get behind it is in a new regulator. we've called it the clean water authority. we're not happy with the way the regulators have been monitoring and enforcing the law on the water companies. and enforcing the law on the water companies . they've been water companies. they've been allowing them to get away with this filthy sewage dumping . this filthy sewage dumping. >> in other news, pro—palestinian protesters have sprayed red paint on a historic building at the university of oxford of cambridge. students and members of the palestine action group targeted senate house this afternoon, a building that has been used for graduation ceremonies since the 18th century. the group says the

action marked the end of an academic year where the university of cambridge has funded, enabled and normalised the ongoing palestinian genocide. a spokesman for the university say they strongly condemn this act of vandalism , condemn this act of vandalism, and the prince of wales has thanked taylorswift for a great concert as he shared a photo of the pop superstar taking a selfie with him and his children, prince george and princess charlotte, watching the us singer perform at wembley stadium . prince william was also stadium. prince william was also spotted shaking his arms to shakeit spotted shaking his arms to shake it off as he celebrated his 42nd birthday. swiss posted her selfie with prince william, george and charlotte alongside her boyfriend, nfl star travis kelce . and for the latest kelce. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. comments. now it's back to .

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