on digital radio. i'm nana and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines . right hitting the headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it is. yours will be debating discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in an hour's time, a broadcaster and journalist, danny kelly. i also broadcast an author, christine hamilton. yes, she'll be back in a few moments time. we'll go head to head in a clash of minds with businessman and activist adam brooks and also former former home office minister norman baker. it will be the clash just this week on the menu, just weeks from his 80th birthday, meghan markle's dad says that he sees no hope of reconciliation with his daughter. i'll share my thoughts then. i've got an incredible outside guest, emma webber. now. she has been bravely campaigning for changes to the law after the tragic death of her son, barnaby. she will be here live to give her response to sir keir's response to her question

earlier on in the week. then on click bait . click bait. >> alexa, should i be really cheeky and have another glass of wine .7 wine.7 >> yeah, sure. >> yeah, sure. >> why not.7 >> why not.7 >> it's not like you've drank every day this week or you've been piling on and you've been piling on the what.7 >> what does alexa say.7 i love that. >> what does alexa say.7 i love that . well, before we get that. well, before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> 3:01, i'm ray addison in the gb news room. the home secretary says it's inappropriate for party officials to have benefited from using inside information to bet on the timing of the general election. the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason, has taken a leave of absence, according to reports, amid claims that he gambled on the polling day date. the tories director of campaigns, tony lee, and his

wife laura saunders, are also being probed, as is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to an error of judgement. james cleverly says he shares the pm's views on the betting scandal . betting scandal. >> my view has always been the case that that people in government should focus on delivering for the people of this country, people who are officials of the party should be focused on returning as many conservative mps as possible, so we can form a government so that we can form a government so that we can form a government so that we can serve the british people and anything other than that is inappropriate . inappropriate. >> the labour leader has suggested that benefits offer less dignity to people than earning a living through work by sir keir starmer took aim at handouts from the state. in a piece for the sunday telegraph, he said serving the interests of working people means understanding that they want success more than state support. his comments come as the latest savanta poll shows that labour

is retaining its lead over the conservatives. the poll has labour on 42% of the vote and the tories on 19, but shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says it's going to be closer than people think. >> i know that there are. you know, a significant proportion of voters who haven't made their minds up and in 175 seats, different polling points to the fact that those seats are just too close to call. so they could go either way . it could well be go either way. it could well be 100, a couple of hundred votes in either direction that could shape the outcome of that. and i'd just say if people want to turn a page in all the chaos and division that we've had over the last 14 years, then they have to vote for it. they have to make it happen. it's not enough just to will it.7 >> all flights from two manchester airport terminals have been cancelled after a major power cut. it's caused huge queues and disruption to baggage processing. it's understood that the power issue has also affected a number of other nearby buildings . other nearby buildings. manchester airport has said that all flights from terminals one and two are being cancelled until further notice , and

until further notice, and passengers due to travel from them are advised not to come to them are advised not to come to the airport and instead to stay in touch with their airlines . gb in touch with their airlines. gb news spoke with an affected passenger, who says they were left in the dark for hours . left in the dark for hours. >> we arrived and it wasn't. there was no disruption to start with. we were all queuing up, it were queuing up outside car park , and we went in and they said, you just in a holding pen basically until we can get these further flights in first moved, but then no changed. and we were there for about 5 or 6 hours, just stood in terminal building. we never moved. >> what time did you arrive this morning? >> quite two. three in morning. and we were there. i don't think they told us until what we were doing until about ten or something like that. one at half, nine or something. when the cancelled flights, search teams attempting to locate british teenager jay slater have narrowed their efforts to small buildings close to where his phone last pinged in tenerife, jay slater went missing a week ago after he attended a music

festival on the spanish island . festival on the spanish island. >> it was his first holiday without his parents. his mother issued a direct plea yesterday saying we just need you home. those conducting the searches today could be seen looking into blue barrels outside one of the small buildings, just before he went missing on monday, 19 year old jay called a friend saying he was lost and needed water. scotland are getting ready to take on hungary in their final group a game of the euros football tournament this evening. thousands of scottish fans are getting into the mood in germany, singing their way into tonight's game and not even rain can dampen the tartan army's spirits and for good reason. as scotland's clash with hungary could see their team reach the knockout stage of a major tournament for the first time. critics didn't give the injury hit scots much of a hope after their five one opening loss to host germany in munich, but a one all draw with the swiss has placed them within reach of qualification . staying

reach of qualification. staying with sport and andy murray will not play here at wimbledon this year after undergoing surgery on a spinal cyst. the 37 year old, three time grand slam champion was hoping to make a farewell appearance this summer, but the scot went under the knife today after withdrawing from his second round match against jordan thompson at queen's earlier this week . murray has earlier this week. murray has suffered from back injuries in the past, having undergone surgery back in 2013. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts right straight back to . nana. on straight back to. nana. on >> good afternoon. before we get stuck into our clash over the next hour, let me introduce you to my panel joining me today, adam brooks and also norman baker . adam brooks and also norman baker. right. let's hear what's coming up in this hour in the polls. the tories have fallen to new lows. can you go any lower

as reform closes the gap to three points. but should we trust the polls then should 16 year olds be given the vote? that's what labour is planning to do to lower the voting age. but others are critical of the proposal. so do you think younger people should be able to vote from 16 upwards then? is keir starmer right to retain the two child benefit cap? sir keir starmer faces further calls for the for to , labour to get rid of the for to, labour to get rid of that cap, as research reveals that cap, as research reveals that 250,000 more children will be hit by the policy over the next year alone. but should sir keir starmer stick to his decision and not flip flop? which political party do you trust the most with migration? with the tories sticking to the rwanda plan, labour reducing the reliance on overseas workers and reform, pledging to freeze all unessential migration, and, of course, the liberal democrats. what are they planning to do? sure, norman baker will reveal all who gets your vote. and finally, of course, labour's green policies. are they a vote winner? labour's plan for a net

zero grid by 2030 has been called completely unrealistic , called completely unrealistic, and require a huge sacrifice by and require a huge sacrifice by a top energy boss. if labour's gamble on economic policies doesn't pay off, could it lead to massive cuts to public services? what do you think ? as services? what do you think? as even services? what do you think? as ever, you can tell me your thoughts, send me your views, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . so let's gbnews.com/yoursay. so let's kick it off. the conservatives, they've hit a new low in polling with support for reform uk closing in just three points. behind that is according to the poll for the telegraph. labour is up to 42, whilst the conservatives have dropped to 19% and reform uk has risen to 16. reform uk also moves into second place with gb news viewers. with labour, this is our poll on 38. this marks the third consecutive poll showing reform at its highest since the party's creation. and also we'll

be talking about whether should 16 year olds be allowed to vote. theidea 16 year olds be allowed to vote. the idea has gained traction since sir keir starmer pledged to lower the voting age to 16 if labour wins the general election, and sir ed davey has reaffirmed the lib dems long standing support for the move . standing support for the move. right, let's do this. let's welcome again to my panel, businessman and activist adam brooks, and also former home office minister norman baker. right. so i'm going to start with you. right. let's start start with norman baker. why not. because we're matching. we've gone pink today. >> yes that's true. >> yes that's true. >> why not. so norman, what do you think with regards to this, to the polls. yeah, let's start with that. >> the polls. well, i mean, the polls are a snapshot, of course, as people always say. >> and the real result comes on july the 4th. but nevertheless, the direction of polls over quite a long period of time has now been showing roughly the same thing in terms of public opinion, which is a potential massive labour majority. the worst possible conservative result maybe for 200 years, and the possibility that the lib dems will actually finish second in number of seats above the

conservatives because of the way the seats are distributed, reform will get a lot of votes , reform will get a lot of votes, but unlikely to get, i think probably more than five seats because of the equality of distribution of votes across the country. >> but that's on the presumption that the equality and the way things have been distributed will remain the same. they might change. i mean, look, reform is standing a candidate in every seat. and if people are that annoyed and if enough people vote for those, those , those vote for those, those, those areas in large enough quantities, then it could change the narrative. >> well, look, anything's possible. anything's possible. >> but i've got a higher percentage than the liberal democrats. >> well , the seats well, indeed. >> well, the seats well, indeed. >> well, the seats well, indeed. >> but the reality is you still need some by elections up and down the country, that there are seats where the lib dems have won spectacular by—election gains in tory seats and other seats will be lost a deposit because the strength of the lib dems and actually the strength of labour as well, is different in different parts of the country , so that labour is not country, so that labour is not going to win any seats in surrey. but we are not going to win any seats in glasgow and that's the reality of it. >> i don't know whether that still rings true. adam brooks, do you think that the polls are

telling a bit of pork pies? in some ways right now it looks like i've never, ever been a fan of polling, but i think you have to take these pretty seriously because, again, i don't speak to anyone really in my pub or out and about friends in the media that are planning on voting conservative and their vote has collapsed. >> you know, their brand. for me, it's finished. >> yes. >> yes. >> and then since nigel farage has suddenly come to the front, there is a buzz and it's being reflected from people that i speak to in the pub and out and about online and obviously now in the polls. so i think the polls are generally where it is going to be there or thereabouts, what about i mean, as norman alluded to, the, the voting system, which will mean that it voting system, which will mean thatitis voting system, which will mean that it is unlikely this is what the system is suggesting , that the system is suggesting, that reform will be able to actually get enough seats. >> but i'm saying that actually i don't know whether that will ring true anymore . ring true anymore. >> the buzz is real, i speak to so many people now that weren't going to vote and are suddenly

going to vote and are suddenly going to vote and are suddenly going to now vote reform. so that buzz is out there. i still think maybe they could get 7 or 8 million votes, which would be astonishing considering how old the party is. and, you know, nigel's only just come back. so if they were to get 7 or 8 million votes and possibly 5 or 6 seats, i think reform have got to take that as a win. i mean, there is no way that labour can lose this election. it's probably impossible now, barring some huge scandal which we're not going to see in the next, and it would have to be huge. they can't lose. >> well that is, but then you see, one of the things that the labour party were worried about is that notion that they can't lose. so then people don't tend , lose. so then people don't tend, they think, oh well they're all right. so we don't necessarily need to go vote. >> well that's right, there might be that. >> and they are very tentative about that kind of language as you noticed. they've continued to sort of talk as though they play to sort of talk as though they play it down. they're playing it down. they play down all the time because otherwise their

supporters think, well, i can vote green. >> i can vote something else. >> i can vote something else. >> yes, and i didn't bother turning up because they're going to win anyway. >> and actually adam's analysis, which i think is right, is about there will be millions of votes for reform. and they will pick up maybe five seats. that's right. the comparison i would make is with the sdp back in the 19805, make is with the sdp back in the 1980s, because the sdp formed from nowhere, they had a they were over 50% in the opinion poll at one point. the sdp and the next election they got ten seats or something, not almost nothing. so you can't very easily in this system start a party from zero. and the reform has been near zero. and then suddenly end up with a whole lot of seats. >> you can't well, you say that, but it all depends on what people do on polling day, doesn't it? because we can say that. and i'm not saying, you know, i literally i have no idea what i will do with regards to voting . but the bottom line is voting. but the bottom line is this it is almost for me, as though there is a sort of narrative that people are saying, look, we're just going to vote with our feet and with our hearts, so we don't care whether you think they can't get enough seats or whether you think that we're going to go

where the people are saying the things that we want to hear. yeah. and if that is reform or the labour party or whoever they want to vote for, i think they they're going to do, there's a lot of people that want to put two fingers up at westminster, and reform is that way of doing it. >> it's, you know, the two party system that we've all become sort of used to, and it is the norm suddenly there's hope that you can break that. and you know, for me, it would be very interesting to see if reform can take more votes than the conservatives. where do we go on from there? what will the 2029 election look like if that happens? >> actually, that's a very interesting point, because what's going to happen in this election and the polls, if they're correct, are showing this, is that the votes for labour and tory and the number of seats they get will be an all time low. about 40% of people aren't going to vote. labour or tory, which annoys me when both those parties say it's a two party, two horse race. it isn't a two horse race. there's a form that's lib dems, there's greens, there's snp, there are a multitude of parties people can vote for they want to do. but

the real issue, in fact, after the real issue, in fact, after the next election, labour are going to win. we don't know who's going to be second. might be lib dems, might be the tories, but the issue is what happens to the conservative party and that will depend on which tory mps are returned. if the kind of one nation tory mps are returned, then they will try and reform the party back to centre. if the kind of right wing tories are elected, as opposed to the one nation ones they might want to want to deal with. >> farage. >> farage. >> well, i think if they sort of build a party around your priti patels and those sort of, they have a chance to regrow if they go the one nation for me, they're finished. >> well, i mean, look, i don't know when the last nail in the tory party's coffin was. i mean, maybe there's another one coming. i don't know how many nails you can get. exactly how tight you can shop the coffin, to be honest. look, you know, and i'm only i'm only reflecting what i'm seeing. this is not, you know, this is not partisan at all. but what was the latest one? we're now dealing with some potential betting potential differential. >> look, i mean, i'm i'm sick of

this government. and i was in the coalition, the tories, who were a better government in 2010 to 2015. the cameron. i'm sick of the corruption. i'm sick of the incompetence. i'm sick of the incompetence. i'm sick of the lies. well, it's not just getting it's not just them though, is it? >> i mean, let's be honest, the labour party haven't been. >> well, labour are saying i mean, they've all both of them have had their own little labour saying nothing very much as labour secretary. nothing. >> we were recently dealing with angela rayner. they've found that there's nothing to see here. exactly but the fact is that she was being investigated. so we've had a few from labour, even right wingers like myself, we've had enough of this tory government. >> yeah, i was a big supporter in 2019. i was even thanked by certain mps for their support, for my support and being vocal online. fine. but they've messed this up so badly, they've neglected to listen to the electorate and their voters . electorate and their voters. they haven't listened to their members. they've, you know, they've got rid of two sitting prime ministers and installed someone that the members didn't want. the electorate didn't want , who wanted rishi sunak either, who wanted him? >> well, nobody wanted they

didn't want him either. >> so it's their own fault. and, you know, there's a their support out there is just crumbled. >> what about starmer there? keir starmer has been the master mastermind behind u—turns. i mean , the lot of people would mean, the lot of people would say that actually they don't know what he thinks or what he is planning to do. >> he won't answer a question . >> he won't answer a question. you want to answer a question? >> i didn't like the way that he didn't answer questions, even at question time where they were all there. i hate listening to somebody who sort of obfuscates around the answer, never answers it, and we are waiting for the answer as though we're stupid. >> the scuttlebutt i've heard is that there's going to be a big package of legislation immediately after the election, 100 days to make a big difference, to knot the country back and say, wow, this is a big new labour government. we don't know what's going to be in it, but that's going to come, i think. >> well, the liberal democrats do, i think, have said some things that i like. i like ed davey talking about water, even if you just stay out of it, i wish you'd stay out of it. but i think he made some very valid

points when he talked about the absolute vandalism of the waterways, i think by the water companies. >> absolutely. and the water companies, this is an example of the tory government getting it wrong. they've allowed water companies to just line their own pockets to pay shareholders and to dump sewage non—stop into our rivers and seas. it's an absolute disgrace . absolute disgrace. >> and that's that's one thing that i have, anger with. this tory government is big business over small business. and the worker and, you know, that's not conservative at all. so again, it's their own fault they haven't listened . well a lot of haven't listened. well a lot of them don't listen. now we've got them don't listen. now we've got the greens. the greens are polling quite well in terms of people actually i think a slight protest vote. but the protest is a big topic . a big topic. >> except i'm not talking about the environment. i'm talking about, gaza . yeah. about, gaza. yeah. >> their manifesto is for the fairies. you know, it's for the crank pots, i'd like to say it is a terrible manifesto. >> i think caledonia did quite well in her in their first leaders debate. i thought she was all right. >> i think there are two sorts of greens. and we saw this from

germany over many years . the germany over many years. the fundies, the fundamentals and the realos, the realistic ones. caroline lucas was a very good mp in my view, in brighton pavilion for her constituents and being moderate, but beneath all that there's a whole lot of other greens who are not of that ilk . ilk. >> their extreme is the word. >> their extreme is the word. >> you think so a bit sort of just stop oil. yeah, a bit. we have, we had them in the studio yesterday. look, i mean, it's all very laudable, but what policies are they realistic? and i think that's what people will look at whether and i just want to quickly touch on sir keir starmer's plan to potentially have 16, 17 year olds voting. some people would say this is an attempt once again to try and rig the votes, but i think it's interesting that he would assume that they would vote for labour because nigel farage seems to have quite a good impact on the young people at the moment. >> well, i've always been in favour of 16 to 7 year olds voting for this reason is that they can do all sorts of other things in life. they can join the army, they can claim benefits, they can go to work, and it seems to me no taxation without representation. they should be allowed to vote. they voted in the scottish referendum, i think, north of the border. and i think it's i

think, i think i'm very happy to attack labour, but i don't think this is an attempt to get people voting labour. i think it's a genuinely very generous i think i think this is one of the maddest policies that i've heard in many years, a 16 year old cannot marry , they cannot fight cannot marry, they cannot fight in a war. they cannot buy alcohol, buy cigarettes , do the alcohol, buy cigarettes, do the lottery. they cannot have a tattoo, have a sunbed, they cannot change gender, right? they cannot they cannot be on a jury. they cannot legally buy or download a dirty or a violent film. they cannot get a boob job. they cannot work full time unless they are , under an unless they are, under an apprenticeship or a trainee scheme. and even then , their scheme. and even then, their hours are restricted. they cannot get a mortgage or car finance, but you want to give them a say. in the running of our country, a young child actor say on eastenders, an eight year old pays tax. do you want to give the eight year old a vote as well? >> no, i want to start at 16. >> no, i want to start at 16. >> i think it's a logical place to start, but i think people

grow up faster these days. >> then the scottish, the scottish rule is that you cannot be criminally responsible until you're 25. >> so that's not true. >> so that's not true. >> yes, it is scotland. >> yes, it is scotland. >> no, i mean it used to be eight. >> no no no no there's different sentencing guidelines for under 25 because they don't think the brain i think is mature enough. >> i think that you might find this is a misguided move. and i think because the young people are very clever, they can weaponize social media. and if they decide to hunt in a pack, then we're all in trouble because they know what they're doing. so i think we need to start. when it comes to social media, young people could manipulate things using social media. we ought to think about that. >> i want to make him responsible, give him responsible, give him responsible, give him a responsible, give him a stake responsible, give him a stake in society. and i think this is one way of doing it. >> they can have that. 18 when they start properly paying in. that's what i think. what do you think? get in touch. gbnews.com/yoursay or say this is gb news var. britain's election channel. i'm nana akua fast approaching 22 minutes after 3:00. we're live on tv, onune after 3:00. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, which political party do you trust the most with migration. but next, the election betting scandal

good afternoon and welcome to gb news at the westminster studio. it's very exciting, because next week we'll be in the new gb news studio at paddington. but with the new bar and sofa, i can't wait. that is probably gonna be the same one, but they've dyed the same one, but they've dyed the sofa and cut around the bar. that's. that's how we roll . but that's. that's how we roll. but if you just join me, i'm nana. akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio now. home secretary james cleverly says that it's inappropriate for party officials to have benefited from using inside information to bet on the timing of the general election. the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason, has taken a leave of absence, to according reports, amid claims that he gambled on the polling day date. the tories director of

campaigns, tony lee, and his wife laura saunders , are also wife laura saunders, are also being probed now, as it is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams . he private secretary, craig williams. he is also being questioned. he admitted to an error of judgement. oh dear, can it get much worse? now? let's be careful because this is currently under investigation . currently under investigation. so we, you know, we can't talk about too much about the details because we don't fully know them yet, but we can talk about the principle of what we you know, what we see. adam brooks joining me, businessman and activist, and also norman baker, a former home office minister. this is the clash . adam brooks, as i the clash. adam brooks, as i said, okay, so we had rishi sunakin said, okay, so we had rishi sunak in the wetsuit, did we? then he jumped off the titanic in the wetsuit via the exits. and then what was the next thing he did? what was the next thing he did? what was the next thing he did? what was the next thing he did? was this the d—day where he did? was this the d—day where he left early? oh, that was a terrible miscalculation . and terrible miscalculation. and now, of course, we've got this going on. i mean, they're finished . finished. >> but even before this, i mean, for me, the d—day , the d—day day for me, the d—day, the d—day day gaffe, you know, they just

finished them off completely. i don't know who advised him . don't know who advised him. >> what was they thinking, but are they out to get him? because some people i mean, i said it at the beginning. who would have been there? no umbrella , not been there? no umbrella, not somebody stand there with an umbrella. no umbrella. then the music in the background. things will only get better. >> so incompetent . i mean, we've >> so incompetent. i mean, we've seen a lot of this and i've said it on gb news a lot that i think whoever advises these mps , you whoever advises these mps, you know, they're in their own world. they do not understand what people are actually thinking. and the d—day, gaffe , thinking. and the d—day, gaffe, you know, that that was electoral suicide . i just don't electoral suicide. i just don't icannot electoral suicide. i just don't i cannot get my head around it. i cannot get my head around it. i really can't . i really can't. >> what about calling the election on the 4th of july? some people would argue that was the beginning of the suicidal. >> well, i think the intention to destroy the call it early in order to try and spike the guns of reform. that's why i think it was called early before reform will be ready. that was a mindset. and he's got that totally wrong. i mean, the gaffes, we could spend the rest of the hour talking about the gaffes. d—day was the worst one.

certainly he's been huge in pitching the whole campaign in so far has been a campaign to pensioners, another group who are most offended by the d—day, you know, fast , to be honest you know, fast, to be honest with you. and the worst thing was he came back to itn for the interview, pre—recorded interview. he could have put it off, couldn't he? pre—recorded interview and actually said, i'm sorry i'm late, but d—day ran over. sorry i'm late, but d—day ran over . so he sorry i'm late, but d—day ran over. so he said to itn but but he has apologised. >> he apologised although that then went out later. but he has apologised. >> i mean, so you apologise for downing street press conference. >> that was what it was. >> that was what it was. >> downing street was there was a photograph direction exit sign going to northern ireland and titanic, the titanic. >> i've been asked by a reporter whether he was captain of a sinking ship, having two tory councillors in high vis jackets, members of the public asking questions and being exposed. well then , wales and the euros well then, wales and the euros congratulating wales on the euros when wales had been knocked out, football dribbling and he couldn't get around the little thing in the ground. i mean the thing has been a complete disaster from start to finish. you couldn't make it up. i'll tell you what, if you've written this as a complete disgrace, somebody would say, oh, that's unrealistic. we can't have that. we can't possibly do

that. no one would believe that would happen. >> but, you know, the others haven't been. and to look at the other parties as well, i mean, let's take a look at keir starmer. he's u—turned repeatedly. you didn't know what a woman was and then he's gone on and now he's finally said that i agree with what what tony blair says. but before that, he had then accepted they went, oh yeah, women don't have penises and all that kind of thing. >> he was on his own as well. >> he was on his own as well. >> yes, he's labour's are two major problems in this campaign so far. apart from the generality of not answering questions, the first is the diane abbott situation where he mishandled that because that should have been sorted out one way or another long before the election. what should he have done? well, i think he was right to let diane abbott stay in. i'm in favour of let us stay. let us be. let us stand for parliament. i'm in favour of political parties being broad churches. i don't think you should kind of constrain mps within your own party, too much. i think, you know, independence of mind is important . important. >> yes, but the comments that she made with regard to, jewish people and equivalence, you know, saying that it was equivalent to sort of thing that a redhead would face. yet we, you know , clearly had forgotten you know, clearly had forgotten about the holocaust. i'm afraid

thatis about the holocaust. i'm afraid that is something that is quite unstable. and she has made other comments as well. >> i believe that keir starmer, i think i read an article, keir starmer actually admitted that he believed that they, they were anti—semitic comments. so if he believes that, why is he letting her back. >> well and also natalie elphicke then they had her in, they brought her in as well. and that would seem to be didn't really match with it was a bit of a mismatch. really match with it was a bit of a mismatch . yeah. of a mismatch. yeah. >> it's very hypocritical isn't it. >> it's just what he's been doing . keir starmer has been doing. keir starmer has been finding excuses often , or being finding excuses often, or being very hard on people on the left of the party to get rid of them, like lloyd russell—moyle, the brighton mp for something he tweeted eight years ago, just been found out and being very soft on people on the right of the party and bringing natalie al fayed notwithstanding all she said. so he's been totally inconsistent with that. and the second thing it's almost got wrong, i think very clearly, is because he was nailed by jk rowling. i think on on the issue of what a woman is, and he couldn't really answer that question so well . question so well. >> there's a lot of them in the

labour party who don't appear to be able to define what a woman is. i mean, there's a lot of women that are angry about that. >> i speak to her many online that are like, keep on about this trans issue because we cannot vote for keir starmer and labour if he cannot have the balls to say what a woman is. >> well, i mean, it's not a feminist party. there was dawn butler who said that we are born without a sex. i mean, yeah, so if they're saying stuff like that and there's lots of women in the party that are corroborating this as well , corroborating this as well, there are some women for whom thatissue there are some women for whom that issue is a defining issue in terms of how they vote at the election. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> it's something. yeah. well, what about let's talk about ed davey then, because ed davey he has his own issues. i mean, after the debacle where he was asked asked questions with regard to the post office, he sort of was not available at that time. apparently he was looking after his son. his son is , disabled. and, you know, is, disabled. and, you know, people are sensitive to that. but it did seem somewhat of a coincidence that he was not up to answering questions later on. he has apologised, kind of that he wasn't didn't get on to that. >> i tweeted the other day, he's sort of playing a frank spencer

type character at the moment, and strangely enough, i mean, you know, we laugh and we jest , you know, we laugh and we jest, but it seems that he's actually hitting home with some of the older. yes, audience at home and saying they're going to vote for him because he's human. like, yeah, i mean, i think he's come across as a clown, but i think but some of the things he's saying are things that the other parties have ignored, like water, which to me is water is life. but again, the conservatives have been so bad, you know, and those that don't want to vote for reform or labour are looking at it as a safe sort of bet . safe sort of bet. >> i think, you know, he seems to be cutting through. and then we have nigel farage who, who made some comments that i think some appear to have taken out of context with regard to vladimir putin. people are accusing him of being a putin appeaser. that's nonsense. but that's not quite what he said, was it? i won't get the exact quote. yeah, but but but adam, what are your thoughts on where this is going? we've got about 30s. i've got on nigel. yeah. >> look, ten years ago he said that we're going to face a war

in ukraine. he basically, predicted all this, he's already said that putin should not have invaded ukraine. >> the thing he got wrong was to say we provoked it. we didn't provoke it. well, look , let's provoke it. well, look, let's just say there was a load of russian bases in france. >> would we be happy with that near our borders? would we feel a little bit uneasy? could we make a terrible judgement , you know? >> well, look, i'll give you the words in this is what nigel says, and he says it in the sunday telegraph today and my bbc panorama interview on friday, nick robinson outrageously accused me of echoing russian president putin's excuses for the invasion. so let me set the record straight . i am not and record straight. i am not and never have been an apologist or supporter of putin. his invasion of ukraine was immoral, outrageous and indefensible. i believe that putin was entirely wrong to invade ukraine. he said that putin, nobody can accuse me of being an appeaser. that's what he says. listen esther ghey no, no, no, but i'll read the earlier comments. i'll do that after the news, stay with us. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come. which party do you trust most with migration? but first, let's get you up to

date with our headlines. >> thanks. nana 334 i'm ray addison in the gb news room . the addison in the gb news room. the home secretary says it's inappropriate for party officials to have benefited from using inside information to bet on the timing of the general election. the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason, has taken a leave of absence , according to reports, absence, according to reports, as amid claims that he gambled on the polling day date. the tories director of campaigns , tories director of campaigns, tony lee and his wife laura saunders, are also being probed, as is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to an error of judgement . the to an error of judgement. the labour leader has suggested that living on benefits offers less dignity to people than earning through work. sir keir starmer is taking aim at handouts from the state in a piece for the sunday telegraph today. his comments come as the latest savanta poll shows that labour is retaining its lead over the

conservatives. the poll has labour on 42% of the vote and the tories on 19. search teams attempting to locate british teenager jay slater have narrowed their efforts to small buildings close to where his phone last pinged in tenerife. jay slater went missing a week ago after he attended a music festival on the spanish island . festival on the spanish island. it was his first holiday without his parents. his mum has issued a direct plea saying we just need you home. just before he went missing on monday, the 19 year old called a friend saying he was lost and needed water. andy murray will not play at wimbledon this year after undergoing surgery on a spinal cyst. the 37 year old, three time grand slam champion was hoping to make a farewell appearance this summer, but the scot went under the knife today after withdrawing from his second round match against jordan thompson at queen's earlier this week. murray has

suffered from back injuries in the past, having undergone surgery first in 2013. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common shirts back now to . nana. >> good afternoon. 37 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua still to come. will labour's green plan get your vote? do not anywhere. this is the

if you just join me. where have you been ? no. welcome back. i'm you been? no. welcome back. i'm nana. akua, this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. so it's time for the clash. i'm asking which party do you trust on migration policy now? the leader of reform party, nigel farage, has suggested his party would halt channel crossings by exiting the echr or the european

convention on human rights and returning migrants to france . returning migrants to france. prime minister rishi sunak argues that only his government have a viable plan to stop the boats. and by this migration we are talking about illegal migration, by the way, by using the rwanda policy as a deterrent . and labour leader sir keir starmer said he'd create new a new border security command to tackle people smuggling and the gangs. and i feel like i've missed someone . who do you who missed someone. who do you who gets your vote? i could ask , the gets your vote? i could ask, the norman baker, former home office minister, because he knows and also adam brooks. they join me now for the clash. norman baker, what's the liberal democrats policy on migration? >> let me say, first of all, there are no simple answers to this. and any party that says they're going to solve it is not telling the truth to the electorate at large . so there's electorate at large. so there's a number of things you can do. first of all, in terms of illegal migration, let's just remember that's a fraction of the numbers coming in through legal migration in this country. yeah, we're numbers. you have to look at legal migration. >> and that's true not illegal migrants. i'm focusing this question on illegal okay.

>> well, let's try illegal migration concerns. one of the things the government's got right has been the bilateral deal with albania to try to make sure that people who come in for economic reasons can be returned to countries which are safe. we need to see more of that going on. we need to see better relations with our european union partners, a common partners , to try and make sure partners, to try and make sure that they are prepared to take people back into their countries who arrive on, on, on our shores. we need to make sure that the home office produces a much better way of dealing with people when they come in in terms of, dealing with their applications means so that they are processed much more quickly , are processed much more quickly, they can be removed from the country. they shouldn't be here in all due speed and, and integrated with the country if they're allowed to be here. and that's not happening at the moment. and we've got millions i don't know what millions, but huge numbers sitting there not being processed by the home office and costing the taxpayer a lot of money. and personally , a lot of money. and personally, i think it's a lib dem policy. that person have always taken the view that people who are here waiting for applications to be decided should be allowed to work, so that a they give them

some self—respect and c and secondly, we get some money coming in in terms of taxation from them. >> so in a sense you've jumped the queue illegally. you're allowed now to work, make money pending your application tax and then and then rewarding them. what's the disincentive potentially depending application being the disincentive though. because if i you know, if i, i said well if i you know, if i, i said well if i go there i'll get a job, i'll get money or benefits or whatever it is, and i can work and everything else. it's like i live there. i haven't been vetted, i haven't been checked. i could be a serial killer or somebody we've already had terrorist murderers, paedophiles. >> we've had rapists , we've had >> we've had rapists, we've had criminals come across on these dinghies . there is nothing dinghies. there is nothing stopping someone who is on the beach in france coming here. they know they're not going to get, deported because the government just won't. and our left wing media and activists won't allow us to deport many of these people. labour in the past, mps have put a stop to deportation flights or have written to put the pressure on,

stopping deportation flights that have had people like rapists on them. so what worries me? you know, i look at reform and i think they are the only party that are actually generally in touch with the people's, worries over immigration. >> but you can say it, but whether you can actually do it is another thing. so some people can have a good sound bite and say the right thing. that sounds right. we've possibly got one deterrent, which is rwanda. >> labour have already said that even if rwanda was working, they would stop it from day one. now what sort of message is that? giving to those that are in the calais camps? let's remember that these people in the calais camps, they they look at us like el dorado. they think they're either going to get loads of benefits, free houses which free housing, which they do, or they're going to go and work for cash in hand. you know , and earn cash in hand. you know, and earn loads of money on the streets of london or within the uk. we are seen as an easy touch. that's why they come here and that's what you've got to stop a whole

lot of things to say about that. >> first of all, rwanda is an expensive gimmick . expensive gimmick. >> why is it an expensive gimmick? because it's not. >> it's not. it's costing an absolute fortune. nothing's happening. >> do you not think that spending money. so the foreign aid budget, which is a lot of it, a large portion of it is now going to this kind of thing. it is going to it. yeah. so so that's billions. >> but it's not working is it. it's not started. >> even if we compare the amount of money spent looking after these people, which is like 8 million, as opposed to a couple of hundred million for rwanda, where they could go off somewhere. well, it's costing it's actually a bargain , isn't it? >> it's costing as much to hold them here because a the home office is incompetent and unable to press them. >> well then this is the. >> well then this is the. >> but you just said it's a rip off or whatever. it's just a rip off. and i'm saying but so is keeping them here. so i agree with you. so for me, if i'm going to be ripped off, it says less of a rip off. i go to rwanda and they're not here. >> no. the reason it's costing an absolute fortune because a home office is useless at processing people, and secondly, because they're not allowed to work. they've been here for some time. so that's two people working who you haven't vetted. well, you depends what they're

doing. >> well, would you employ somebody who just come on a boat from somewhere else in your company and your factory and you're a business person? >> would you. no, i wouldn't, and one the one thing that i will say, this notion that people keep saying, oh, they can work and make money, who are these people? >> look, a lot of these people can't even speak english. >> i see it first hand. there's a town near me called epping. they housed a lot of these migrants in a local hotel. they would walk down the high street. they would go into the council offices. they would be demanding. they would be aggressive and demanding things, even though they're getting fed three times a day and a bed and a roof over their heads, still demanding , a roof over their heads, still demanding, very aggressive as well. why would i want to trust one of those working in my business? no way. >> see, the thing is, because it's a nice thing to say, it's a nice, principled gesture. they should work and pay tax. who's going to employ them? who's going to employ them? who's going to employ them? >> i want to pick up on one point. i want to go out in may because it's a very important point and it's absolutely wrong andifs point and it's absolutely wrong and it's discriminatory to classify people who come across these as all being rapists or whatever the doddie aid, but we've had them. that's a fact.

there of course, a minority of them. >> to be fair, most people he's not really saying that. >> he's saying what my point is, the point that i'm making is that you don't know any you haven't done all the research as to who they are once they're vetted, and once you've determined whether they should be doing x, y, or z, then that's fine. the point there , they're fine. the point there, they're held in these things like they're in a stall somewhere waiting for processing so they're not being processed. >> so who they are, you haven't done your. >> but look, i mean, the majority of people who come across here are not going to be criminals. that's trumpet language. >> well, some people might say they aren't, because i want you to tell me, how do you know that? how do you know they are, then? >> because we have had terrorists. >> we have had rapists. >> we have had rapists. >> every single one that comes across, every single one, that's across, every single one, that's a tiny minority of them, a tiny minority. >> you don't even know it's a tiny minority because i've got i've got three kids. >> i'll tell you how i know i'm scared of who is in our community, because i don't answer that. >> i don't know . >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> let him answer how he knows because the majority, the vast majority of people who have had asylum claims processed are approved to stay in this

country. that's why let me just tell you. >> but you said we're approving asylum claims even after people are done for sexual crime. >> we see that with, the guy that threw the substance, in the lady's face. he got his asylum stamped after he had sexually assaulted someone. >> taking one example and magnifying it to cover the whole , proving that our system is open to abuse and it is a proven fact that we've had these criminals come across on boats. >> all right, listen, i'll tell you what. i'm going to have to stop it there. but it was most interesting. and what are your thoughts gbnews.com forward slash your say, labour's green policies . are they a vote policies. are they a vote winner. ed miliband has pledged to scrap the ban on new onshore wind farms. if labour wins the next general election, there could be a wind farm to your backyard.

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good afternoon. welcome aboard. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i am nana akua now. i'm asking you , are labour's green policies you, are labour's green policies a vote winner? ed miliband has pledged to scrap the ban on new onshore wind farms. if labour wins the next general election. and all this after the shadow energy secretary plans to remove the requirement for local community support in the national planning policy framework, which has blocked onshore wind projects for a decade. however, this move is likely to face significant opposition, similar to the backlash seen in wales, where pre—assist zones for wind energy have led to a surge in planning applications for large wind turbines . and they are not turbines. and they are not quiet, my friends. so do you trust labour's strategy for achieving net zero? joining me now to discuss adam brooks is the businessman and activist norman baker, former home office minister norman baker. i'll come to you first, do you trust them? they're talking about, i mean, keir starmer was even talking about bypassing certain planning laws to change things in terms of home building. now, this is planning laws that may be

bypassed in terms of places where wind farms can be placed onshore , which means they could onshore, which means they could be in your backyard. >> well, first of all, i'm not in favour of bypassing planning laws, and i think planning should be dealt with at a local level. and if labour is planning to have centralised planning policies to exclude local areas that are not in favour of that, and there is some indication they're going to do that with house building and other areas as well. as far as onshore wind farms are concerned, i don't personally have an objection to onshore wind farms, and i think they're there less of a problem than, say, the small nuclear stations, which the government is planning to introduce across the country. you know, the reality is energy facilities have to be put somewhere . we have to be put somewhere. we can't have nothing. and the good thing about wind as opposed to gas, for example, is that we don't have to import it and energy security. >> but the problem with it is that you you then have to store it. >> we don't have the storage capacity. and you'll also need a load of pylons to transport the energy. adam burke. >> brooks, look, i worry about labour and their green. i almost think that they're quite cult

like, you know, we could see so many north sea jobs going. our energy security of this country go if they. >> but they would argue that is for energy security. that's why they're doing it. >> no. look wind farms are okay. but for the next 30 odd years, we're going to need oil and gas. and it worries me that, keir starmer and the labour party are so focused on net zero. and these , these, in these targets these, these, in these targets and things that they're going to put our security at risk and our bills will go up. >> i don't agree with that. i mean, look, i mean, the question is, is it a vote when you ask me? >> i don't know, 10s to answer that. >> i don't know or not, but i do know we security is generated by renewable energy, which is our own energy. secondly, we've got the opportunity to employ lots of people for renewables. you've got time, energy and thirdly, i forgot what the third point is. >> adam brooks , is it a vote winner? >> no, i think many people are worried, about, this with labour

going forward. i do not think it's a vote winner. okay, so do you think gbnews.com/yoursay still to come ? still to come? >> the great british debate i'm asking is the backlash against nigel farage justified following his claim the west provoked russia and the invasion of ukraine? stay tuned . ukraine? stay tuned. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. welcome along to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. a perfect summer's day out there for most of us, but there is some patchy cloud about and later on it's going to turn a bit breezy and cloudy across the far northwest as this frontal system approaches. otherwise, a ridge of high pressure for the vast majority bringing settled summery conditions and plenty of sunshine . the best of the sunshine. the best of the sunshine. the best of the sunshine through the evening across northern and central parts of the uk, we've still got some cloud lingering around southwestern parts , and that may southwestern parts, and that may well thicken through the night, with some mist around coasts.

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hitting the headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it is yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today, author and broadcaster christine hamilton. she's back and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly coming up now. my outside guest today has been bravely campaigning for changes to the law after the tragic death of her son. she asked sir keir starmer a question on the radio this week and she'll be sharing her reaction to his response for the first time. she's, of course , emma webber. she'll be here. she is the mother of barnaby webber , who was killed last webber, who was killed last yeah webber, who was killed last year. then with the sun out , year. then with the sun out, you're probably all enjoying a glass of wine, but maybe don't ask alexa for permission. what happens next? >> have another glass of wine . >> have another glass of wine. >> have another glass of wine. >> what does alexa say? try it at home, right. but >> what does alexa say? try it at home, right . but before we at home, right. but before we

get started, let's get your latest news headlines . latest news headlines. >> good afternoon. it's 4:01. i'm ray addison in the gb news room. our top stories. the home secretary says it's inappropriate for party officials to have benefited from using inside information to bet on the timing of the general election. the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason, has taken a leave of absence, according to reports, amid claims that he gambled on the polling day date. the tories director of campaigns, tony leigh, and his wife laura saunders , are also being probed, saunders, are also being probed, as is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to an error of judgement. james cleverly says he shares the pm's views on the betting scandal . views on the betting scandal. >> my view has always been the case that people in government should focus on delivering for the people of this country, people who are officials of the

party should be focused on returning as many conservative mps as possible, so we can form a government so that we can serve the british people. and anything other than that is inappropriate. >> the labour leader has suggested that benefits offer less dignity to people than earning a living through work. sir keir starmer took aim at handouts from the state in a piece for the sunday telegraph , piece for the sunday telegraph, he said serving the interests of working people means understanding that they want success more than state support . success more than state support. his comments come as the latest savanta poll shows labour retaining its lead over the conservatives. the poll has labour on 42% of the vote and the tories on 19. but shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says it's going to be closer than people think . closer than people think. >> know that there are, you know, a significant proportion of voters who haven't made their minds up. and in 175 seats, different polling points to the fact that those seats are just too close to call. so they could go either way. it could well be

100, a couple of hundred votes in either direction. that could shape the outcome of that. and i'd just say if people want to turn a page in all the chaos and division that we've had over the last 14 years, then they have to vote for it. they have to make it happen. it's not enough just to will it? >> manchester airport says flights are expected to restart dunng flights are expected to restart during this afternoon and evening after a major power cut caused huge queues and disruption to baggage processing. earlier, all flights from terminals one and two were cancelled and passengers advised not to come to the airport. now they say they're working closely with airlines to reschedule cancelled flights in the coming days , and tomorrow's scheduled days, and tomorrow's scheduled flights are not thought to be affected. gb news spoke with an affected. gb news spoke with an affected passenger , who says affected passenger, who says they were left in the dark for hours . hours. >> we arrived and it wasn't. there were no disruption to start with. we were all queuing up, it were queuing up outside car park, and we went in and they said , you just in a holding they said, you just in a holding pen basically until we can get these further flights in first

moved, but then no changed. and we were there for about 5 or 6 hours, just stood in terminal building, and we never moved. >> what time did you arrive this morning? >> quiet to fri in morning. and we were there. i don't think they told us until what we were doing until about ten or something like that. one at about half nine or something like that. when the cancelled flights search teams attempting to locate british teenagerjay slater have narrowed their efforts to small buildings close to where his phone last pinged in tenerife . in tenerife. >> chase slater went missing a week ago after he attended a music festival on the spanish island. it was his first holiday without his parents. his mum issued a direct plea yesterday saying we just need you home. those conducting the searches today could be seen looking into blue barrels outside one of the small buildings , just before he small buildings, just before he went missing on monday, the 19 year old called a friend saying he was lost and needed water. scotland are getting ready to take on hungary in their final group a game of the euro

football tournament this evening . thousands of scottish fans are getting into the mood in germany , singing their way into tonight's game and not even rain can dampen the tartan army's spirits and for good reason . as spirits and for good reason. as scotland's clash with hungary could see their team reach the knockout stage of a major tournament for the first time. critics didn't give the injury hit scots much of a hope after their five one opening loss to hosts germany in munich, but a one all draw with the swiss has placed them within reach of qualification . staying with qualification. staying with sport and andy murray will not play sport and andy murray will not play at wimbledon this year after undergoing surgery on a spinal cyst. the 37 year old, three time grand slam champion was hoping to make a farewell appearance this summer, but the scot went under the knife today after withdrawing from his second round match against jordan thompson at queen's earlier in the week. murray has suffered from back injuries in the past, having undergone surgery back in 2013. for the

latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. kamaliya. it's back now to . nana. >> good afternoon. if you're just tuned in, welcome on board. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua . it is fast nana akua. it is fast approaching seven minutes after 4:00 right now. today i thought i'd do a bit of a fun royal piece. why not? because it's a nice day . the weather and the nice day. the weather and the sun is out there. summer has finally arrived and it is birthday bonanza time. last week it was the king's official birthday and we had trooping the colour with all the pomp and ceremony and princess catherine made a welcome appearance this week. prince william celebrated his 42nd birthday. although how much fun he was really having is debateable, given the things his family have been through over the last five years, and in

particular this year with his wife and father both ill with cancer. wife and father both ill with cancer . yet as part of the cancer. yet as part of the british working royal family they have soldiered on in true british style, keeping calm and carry on even if all hell is breaking loose around you. and on friday night, a beaming prince william was seen doing a bit of dad dancing at the taylor swift concert. look away, kids, look away , and taylor shared a look away, and taylor shared a snap of on her instagram of her posing with william, george and charlotte . i don't get it. charlotte. i don't get it. i don't get the swift appeal, but all credit to her she creates wealth wherever she goes. i think one estimate was over £400 million spent by her fans in the uk since her concert began. quite impressive and that figure is probably way off now . the is probably way off now. the woman knows how to market her stuff, even if i find her music a bit middle of the road and mediocre. she's a wealth creator, a billionaire. so i say go girl. unlike our faux royal world wide tour, privacy tours across the pond, meghan and

harry, who have brought little else to their families other than misery. today i read about poor thomas markle, who talked about being markle, which has come to mean when you get dumped for no reason. he's also celebrating his birthday in a couple of weeks too, and he was calling on meghan to reach out to him. he's recovering from a serious stroke, which left him unable to talk properly for quite some time, and he's doing a lot better now and will be turning 80 now. of course, he suffered a double heart attack before meghan and harry's wedding, so he couldn't go and they haven't spoken to him ever since. he hasn't even met any of their grandchildren or prince harry. there was apparently an incident with some photos, which now pales into insignificance when you consider the behaviour of the duke and duchess of montecito . they spilled their montecito. they spilled their guts on oprah, where they coined the phrase your truth, which means which i think seems to means which i think seems to mean you believe it's true. so it is true. the late queen went to her grave with an accusation of racism hovering over the family . we've had documentaries,

family. we've had documentaries, books, a podcast, all complaining about how badly they've been treated. now we've got faux royal tours, jams and dog biscuits. it's just one thing after another, but underneath it all is an undertone. whilst harry has been to see his father after his diagnosis of cancer, that is of course the king's diagnosis. the same cannot be said about meghan markle and hers . same cannot be said about meghan markle and hers. their children are being denied the opportunity to get to know their in—laws. this won't bode well when they get older . i this won't bode well when they get older. i doubt this won't bode well when they get older . i doubt they'll this won't bode well when they get older. i doubt they'll thank their parents for that. thomas markle is begging for meghan to get in touch with him as a birthday present. if there ever was a time to improve your pr, meghan, this is it. wish happy birthday to your father for goodness sake. before it's too late . so before we get stuck late. so before we get stuck into the debate , here's what into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is the backlash

against nigel farage justified? he's been condemned by senior political figures after saying that the west provoked vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine. so the british debate this hour, i'm asking, is the backlash against nigel farage justified ? against nigel farage justified? then at 450, it's world view. we will cross live to los angeles to get the latest from paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, to find out what's happening in the presidential race. plus, the run up ahead of the first debate. and could trump's ex strategist steve bannon be heading for prison? steve bannon barely. then at five it's this week's outside now my guest today emma webber, has been bravely campaigning for changes to the law after the tragic death of her son, barnaby. emma asked keir starmer question on the radio this week, and she'll be sharing her reaction to his response for the first time. thatis response for the first time. that is coming up in the next houn that is coming up in the next hour. you will not want to miss that. don't forget you can send me your comments, your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . right, let's

gbnews.com/yoursay. right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel author and broadcaster christine hamilton and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right so just as you weren't smiling, then you suddenly smile . so we then you suddenly smile. so we saw the mask slipped, the mask supped saw the mask slipped, the mask slipped for a second. >> it cracked the mask, the insincerity of my fake smiles came through. >> well, a beautiful day in london, by the way. >> beautiful day . >> beautiful day. >> beautiful day. >> 2627 out there. beautiful day. >> yes. do you know, just going back to your meghan markle thing, it's cruelty to deny a grandparent. >> yeah. sight, sound , touch, >> yeah. sight, sound, touch, feel of his grandchildren. it really is. it beggars belief that she's denying him that and that she's denying him that and that she's denying her children the right to know their other grandfather well , of course it's grandfather well, of course it's not just her, it's harry as well. >> i know i don't, because i'm not quite sure why they wouldn't allow them to get to know their in—laws. >> yeah, doesn't really make any sense. >> look, i can be angry with my mum and dad and whatever. you can be angry with your parents and be annoyed at what they've

done. but for my children , often done. but for my children, often i will make sure that my children get to see him. it's like an ex you're with an ex that you've split up from them. you don't really like them much, but. but they have a stake in the child. you want to make sure that the child gets to know their parents or their other part. >> i think there's got to be more to the story because as i understand, the fallout was about him staging paparazzi shots before the wedding in order to get some dough off the uk paparazzi. if that's all he's done, then the reaction from his daughter is just so over the top . it's unreasonable. she should allow him. the guys are well, he's 80. unfortunately, he's reaching the latter stages of his life combined. not necessarily with old age. i don't think 80 is old nowadays. no. but with his ill health, you know, this is exacerbated things. and for him to potentially go to his grave without reconciling with his daughter, i think to even be okay, to live with that. but i tell you what that tells me about her personality . it tells about her personality. it tells me about how unforgiving she is as an individual and how egocentric she is, and how pride comes before a fall. >> well, but she might say that you don't know what's gone on. what?

>> well, that's what i said. >> well, that's what i said. >> terrible . but you know, >> terrible. but you know, that's why in her defence, she's not here to defend herself. so those are my thoughts. >> we don't know what's gone on, but if she's got any sense of pr, which she has, well, this is why jams and her doughnuts and all that sort of thing, she must realise that the pr for her is a is abysmal and it's. >> i think the reason and i say she has no feelings for her father. i mean, i mean and the thing is, in his piece, he wrote a piece in the daily mail today or a piece about him was in the daily mail today. and he kind of comments about, you know, about how lovely and idyllic their life was when they were younger and what he provided for her. and you know how it wasn't a miserable childhood and it wasn't a they weren't poor. and she did have a nice what would appear to be a nice time. >> so it's suddenly something else has happened. suddenly someone else has happened. and also the fact that the daily mail or the mail on sunday have got an exclusive, of course, that won't help things because the mail on sunday harry went to war with the tabloids, of which the mail on sunday or the mail had sister paper was one of them, i think. so for him to give an exclusive give to the

paper that they considered an enemy and probably still do consider an enemy, i think then that was a bad decision. if he's trying to reconcile with his daughter, don't go to the enemy. >> no, no. but he says, i'd love her to call on my birthday, but she won't give an interview to the guardian then, not the mail. well, but that's not really a controversial thing to say, is it? just to say that you love your daughter and that you'd like them to call? and the only way you can get the message to that person because they won't answer your calls is through the newspapers. the ones that you choose shouldn't be the reason why someone would dodi don't think you know. >> but to put it into context, you know, if she is that twisted with how she feels about her own family, you have to allow for that. i agree he should be able to give an interview to the mail, but if she is so intransigent , then in her intransigent, then in her position, correct? it's just not worth it. but why should he, an 80 year old man reaching what i call the end of the rainbow? >> why should he have to make allowances for her all the time? isn't it time for her to reach out? isn't it time for a son in law who's never even met him? never mind. went and did the

traditional thing which people like harry normally do is ask his father for if he can propose to her. >> well, he might have done that, but he's never actually doneit that, but he's never actually done it on the phone. >> well, that if he's done it, yeah, he's an american. >> to be fair. he's in london. he's an american. he's not going to fly over to arizona. >> don't be done, harry can fly wherever they've got private jets. >> they've got everywhere. >> they've got everywhere. >> but not to us. >> but not to us. >> if it were me. listen, if it were me and you know that rich and you're that connected and you want to ask someone's hand in marriage, i think with respect, you can get on a plane. of course you can. and do that. >> or the prince of wales as not. >> it's not the prince of wales, is he? but prince harry, you think that that's. >> well, at the beginning possible for him to do that? >> well, of course he can. if he wants to go, he could do what if he, if he wanted to. >> they claim that if he had gone to mexico or wherever he lives, it would have created such a media storm. >> well, i feel really selfish. i feel so self—conscious now because i rang roger up. he only lives 20 minutes away. your father in law's my father in law, i said, roger, can i ask your daughter to marry me? and he was delighted i did, but now

we're talking about harry getting on a ten hour flight, and i didn't. i didn't drive 25 minutes. >> you didn't even go 25 minutes. >> i didn't drive 25 minutes. well, now i feel racked with. >> no, we don't know whether he actually asked him or not. you're no better than harry, honey. >> i'm worse than harry by this logic, harry. >> but the sad thing is. but the bottom line. i mean, the sad thing is, it's the children that i'm, you know, you have whatever arguments you like with you. you're fat. your dad and your mum and whoever. that's your argument with them. but the children, i know that that's where i think , look, you know, where i think, look, you know, depriving him. don't do that to the kids. they will not. thank you. i know that my kids are older now. one of them is older. and if i had denied her the opportunity to be part of her dad's family, we're not together . and we all get on quite famously. really. we all get on well because there's no point not being being horrible to somebody who you're not with. if you've got children with you, you've got children with you, you might as well you know, my ex is one of my best friends. you know why not be friends with them? but the bottom line is, if i had denied her the opportunity to see her grandparents on his side, she would be furious. >> this is not uncommon.

there'll be more local domestic issues where dads are denied the opportunity to see their children because there's been such a bitter fallout in the relationship and it's mostly dads who are denied this. and then all of a sudden, the woman may make up a series of events to prevent him ever seeing the kids. you know, maybe there's some thousands of stories like this. >> maybe they planned it. there's some other reason why this can't happen, and it hasn't happened because of that. but it does look a bit heartless. and i would say that i agree. just do that little thing for your dad, say happy birthday to him, make his day and your pr will improve. it really is that simple. yeah, i'm telling you that now, megan. do that and your pr will improve. we will all look differently at that because i think her own self—interest would tell her to do that. there we are. well, then, you know, if someone's entrenched in a position that they believe is right. yeah. thenit they believe is right. yeah. then it is very difficult to entrenched them from it. so that's the truth. >> and if you're that strong and you're in a hole, keep digging. yeah yeah. >> it's like a mud hole where it sucks you under and you keep personality trait to be so stubborn. well, it's not not great. but then you don't know

she's not here to defend herself. and we don't know the full details, but what do you think, anyway? get in touch, gbnews.com/yoursay. we've got so much to talk about. but i thought, why not talk about something different other than politics? because in a couple of weeks time we will be talking solid politics. i'm so excited for the election. and of course we will bring you all the coverage here on gb news so you won't want to go anywhere. this is gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua coming up. it's worldview time. we'll cross live to los angeles to speak to paul duddridge. he's the host of the politics people podcast. we will get the latest on what's going on around the globe next, though, it's time for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is the backlash against nigel farage justified? i've got to pull up right now on x asking you that very question. please cast your vote. the question is the backlash against nigel farage

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i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time for the great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking, is the backlash against nigel farage justified ? against nigel farage justified? ed reform leader nigel farage is doubung ed reform leader nigel farage is doubling down after facing a barrage of criticism for suggesting the west provoked russia's invasion of ukraine by expanding the eu and nato. but a lot of people seem to be taking it slightly out of context. so in order to get an actual context of what he actually said, here's what nigel farage actually said . actually said. >> we've provoked this war. it's, you know , of course it's it's, you know, of course it's his fault. he's used what? but we provoked the invasion of ukraine. and very interestingly, once again, ten years ago when i predicted this. by the way, i'm the only person in british politics that predicted what would happen. and of course, everyone said i was a pariah for danng everyone said i was a pariah for daring to suggest it. george robertson , former labour cabinet robertson, former labour cabinet minister who went on to become the secretary general of nato, has in the last couple of weeks said the war is a direct result

of eu expansion. >> and there were others, weren't there, who claim that the reason putin had gone in it was that we'd provoked the war. he's not alone in saying or suggesting that that is an excuse. but nigel also went on to say that that putin is using it as an excuse. of course he is. i mean, that's what a lot of people think. that is the excuse that putin is using, rishi sunak said the comment was completely wrong and only plays into putin's hands. so keir starmer described the comments as disgraceful. lib dem leader sir ed davey called farage an apologist for putin. the snp said it was an insult to all ukrainians who have suffered. but the reform uk leader is refusing to apologise, insists he's not a supporter of putin. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is the backlash against nigel farage justified? well, joining me now, adam brookes, businessman and activist , former home office activist, former home office minister norman baker, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford , defence analyst and crawford, defence analyst and former british army officer. and emma webb, political commentator. right. i'm going to start with you, stuart crawford,

lieutenant colonel stuart crawford , what are your thoughts crawford, what are your thoughts on what nigel farage said , well, on what nigel farage said, well, good afternoon and good afternoon to your other guests, ihave afternoon to your other guests, i have to say that up until this point, and bearing in mind that ihave point, and bearing in mind that i have been interviewed by nigel farage on gb news, so i do know him personally , albeit he's not him personally, albeit he's not my best pal, but up until this point, i thought reform uk hadnt point, i thought reform uk hadn't put a foot wrong in terms of their campaigning for the general election, and in particular there being a military man, i was interested in their defence manifesto or the defence part of their manifesto, and it was far better than anybody else's in my and my colleagues estimation that said, they know that they're not going to have to deliver it. so it was a bit of a wish list, but i think that, there is an argument to be made that the invasion of ukraine was caused by nato's expansion to the east, but i don't think we can say that nato was at fault because nobody

forced poland, estonia, latvia , forced poland, estonia, latvia, sweden and finland to join nato. nato is a defensive alliance, and they sought to join nato because they felt threatened by a revanchist russia under putin. >> yeah. but, so but you sort of haven't finished off what you're saying, though. so you said before that you you thought that what they were saying was good, but so now are you saying that you do not think that you think nigel has definitely made a mistake in saying those things, even though he said them before ? even though he said them before? it's not new. >> yeah, yeah, no, it's not new. and there's lots of people , who and there's lots of people, who have debated this with, before, particularly in gb news with neil oliver and bev turner and so on and so forth. all i think is that nigel farage has chosen a to hill die on here. he didn't have to go near, to be honest, and he could have batted it away in his usual, much more competent way. and i think he's been hung or hung out to dry on something that he really didn't

need to get involved in in such detail. >> well, but perhaps what has happenedis >> well, but perhaps what has happened is he's answered the question because i think this is what the lord of the politicians do. they deliberately sort of circumnavigate the answer and then try and work out what would be more favourable to say? but all to me, listening to that, he's only said what he's already said and other people have said exactly the same thing. in fact, at the beginning of this invasion, i think the general consensus of opinion on what i was hearing is that he's been provoked thereby because of nato expansion. and i was actually one of the outliers that said he put president putin is in charge of his own destiny , and they are of his own destiny, and they are sovereign nations and should be able to do whatever they like, irrespective of putin, emma, emma webb, i'll come. i'll come back to you in a second, okay? i'm just gonna get emma webb. >> yeah. i think, that the reaction has been overblown and disproportionate. as you said, nigel farage has actually been saying this for some years, so it can't possibly just be straightforward that he's parroting putin's excuse for, having invaded ukraine. i think

the way that he's been denounced and particularly by the very morally charged statement of keir starmer, isn't a proper representation of what he was actually saying. now, i might disagree with, with nigel on the assessment or perhaps what seems to be the emphasis put on, nato neo expansionism as it's being referred to, because i think one of the main mistakes that seems to have been made by the west was actually our timidity in not deaung was actually our timidity in not dealing with the russian threat early enough. but of course, mistakes have been made in how, our foreign policy has handled the threat by russia because the ukrainian invasion happened and it may have been avoidable, so i do think that the reaction to, nigel's comments on this have been quite disproportionate and overblown . and, and i think, as overblown. and, and i think, as i said, the particularly morally charged, denunciation from , keir

charged, denunciation from, keir starmer i think is, is just pushing it a little bit too far. and i think they're trying to use it for their political advantage. but i do think you are right, nana that the one thing that should be said in nigel's defence is that unlike all most. well, i say most other politicians , all other politicians, all other politicians, all other politicians, who are in leadership positions at the moment, at least he answers the question. at least you know what he believes exactly. >> at least we know where we are with some some of them. i just get so sick and tired of watching them sort of dance around. the answer coming to you, i'll go to adam brooks next. >> look, finally, we have the leader of a political party that is not scared to say what he thinks . and even under the most thinks. and even under the most intense pressure, we are seeing an establishment hit job down on him. cold across all newspapers, mps, former prime ministers to try and get him to admit that he was wrong . and he's doubling was wrong. and he's doubling down because it's what he believes . and ten years ago, believes. and ten years ago, when he warned of this, he's

been proven. right now they're trying to twist it that he looks at putin as a good person and he agrees with the invasion. that is not what he said. but if you look at social media and some of the tweets that i'm getting when i say i'm voting reform, or if i did vote reform you're getting a backlash where a putin apologist, he's a fan of putin. he said he's not a fan of putin and he does not agree with the, illegal invasion of ukraine. >> yes, it seems a bit selective , it's madness. they're selectively regurgitating bits that they want to, norman baker, there are two things that nigel said, one of which i think is right, one of which i think is wrong. >> what he said was right was that, putin is using the expansion of nato as an excuse with his own people to justify the invasion of ukraine. i think that's an accurate assessment of the domestic activities of putin, where i think he was wrong was to say the west has provoked this. you know, the reality is that the west is not

a threat, it's been it's been undertaking peaceful activities in eastern europe. he's the one who has invaded the country. so to half blamed the west for the invasion of ukraine, i think is wrong. and if he hadn't used the word not alone, though, norman, you have to admit at the beginning a lot of people were saying that was the general narrative. >> they were saying, oh, that nato expansion has provoked this war. >> well, i don't agree with that a lot. >> well, there were a lot of people saying, i don't know who was saying it and who isn't saying it, but what i'm saying to you is that what i object to, what nigel farage said was the word provoked the rest of what he said. >> i think it was reasonable. >> i think it was reasonable. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> let's just remember during was it the cuban missile crisis? so the west saw russia putting their missiles in cuba as an act of war, potentially act of war. now you've got to look at it from russia's point of view as well. nato has crept up to the borders. i mean, and these are the sovereign nations. >> so they can do what they like. they shouldn't have to do what putin says or do things to appease him. can we come back to lieutenant colonel stuart

crawford, do you think then, that this is being slightly taken out of context, stuart, or are you more on with with norman baker on this, that actually , baker on this, that actually, one part of what he said was fair, but the other part was slightly, wrong or disagreeable. >> no, i think i would agree with, norman baker. i think that , it's been taken slightly out of context. it's been seized by the other leaders of political parties and their politicking. whereas what i think nigel farage has done is he has at least had the courage to say there's another way of looking at this. now, i don't agree. i don't agree with him. i don't think that nato is threatening russia at all. i think that, russia at all. i think that, russia would not have attacked ukraine, for example, if ukraine had been a member of nato. so in many ways, it was it was the easiest place to attack him from. >> or if ukraine had not given up their weapons. and the budapest memorandum where russia had agreed, i mean, they gave up their weapons. >> there's the question if they hadn't, dismantled and nuclear weapons weaponry back to russia,

then we might not have had this in the first place. but the west has been very slow to react to russian expansionism here. and as you rightly said earlier in the programme, it all started back in 2014 with the occupation of crimea and, and, the west did nothing. and now we're caught in a situation which nobody wants. nobody wants this war, least of all the ukrainians. but the russians don't really want it ehhen russians don't really want it either, because it's ruinous to their economy and international standing. and it's a complete and utter mess. and i can only think it will come to an end when putin moves on to something else. >> well, i mean, i would say that actually, it started in was it 1994 with the signing of the budapest memorandum when , budapest memorandum when, russia, i think it was, the uk, there was another one as well. they all agreed that if there was, they should disarm their nuclear weapons. and then if there's any problems at all, come to help. but unfortunately, one of the signatories, which

was russia is the one who was invading. so that's, that's that's a big issue, final word to you, emma webb. so do you think that the backlash is justified , yes or no? justified, yes or no? >> sorry, i didn't catch that. nana do you think the backlash against nigel farage is justified, yes or no, no, i don't think it's justified because i think it's disproportionate . and actually, disproportionate. and actually, i would agree with what norman baker has said there. i think it's very quickly i just say, i think it's, arrogance to think that the west hasn't made some mistakes in its foreign policy. obviously we have, and even if you disagree with nigel's wording of saying that it's a provocation , i think that we provocation, i think that we should be open to talking about mistakes that we have made so that we can avoid further mistakes in the future. >> all right. this is a yes or no answer. i'll try again with colonel, lieutenant, lieutenant colonel, lieutenant, lieutenant colonel crawford, yes or no? is the backlash against nigel farage justified, yes or no? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> oh, sorry. >> oh, sorry. >> i beg your pardon. no, it's not brooks. >> no no no no, you were doing well then. you just. no no no no no, you're doing well. and then you just carried on. see if adam

can do it. adam brooks. yes or no? >> no, it's not justified, and norman baker, can you be the best on this? partly. oh, for goodness sake, i'm done with it. thank you so much to all of you for your thoughts on adam brooks. norman baker , stuart brooks. norman baker, stuart crawford and also emma woolf. let's get your latest news headlines. >> good afternoon. it's 434. for your latest news headlines with me, ray addison , the home me, ray addison, the home secretary, says it's inappropriate for party officials to have benefited from using inside information to bet on the timing of the general election. the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason, has taken a leave of absence, according to reports, amid claims that he gambled on the polling day date. the tories director of campaigns, tony leigh, and his wife laura saunders, are also being probed, as is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to an error of judgement . the

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continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is the backlash against nigel farage justified? reform leader nigel farage is doubling down after facing a barrage of criticism for suggesting the west provoked russia's invasion of ukraine by expanding the eu and nato. here's what he said. >> we've provoked this war. it's, you know, of course it's his fault. he's used what? but we provoked the invasion of ukraine. and very interestingly, once again ten years ago when i predicted this. by the way, i'm the only person in british politics that predicted what would happen. and of course, everyone said i was a pariah for danng everyone said i was a pariah for daring to suggest it. george robertson , former labour cabinet robertson, former labour cabinet minister who went on to become the secretary general of nato, has in the last couple of weeks said the war is a direct result of eu expansion . of eu expansion. >> so there you go. so he said we provoked it, but he said it is putin's fault and that putin would use it as an excuse to invade. so that's what he's saying. rishi sunak said the comment was completely wrong and

he plays into putin's hands. keir starmer described the comment as disgraceful . lib dem comment as disgraceful. lib dem leader sir ed davey called farage and nigel farage an apologist for putin and the snp said it was an insult to all ukrainians who have suffered. but for the reform uk leader, he's refusing to apologise. in fact, he said this many years before and a lot of people were saying exactly the same thing when the war, the war kicked off at the start, he insists that he's not a supporter of putin. so what do you think? i'm asking? is the backlash against nigel farage justified? well let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. christine hamilton, i'm going to start with you. how was your thoughts? >> well, i'm sure nigel is delighted to be the centre of yet another storm, and it plays into i would have thought, a lot of people who were going to vote reform or were thinking about voting reform will now do it. but, the other parties have to do it. they're now terrified by the avalanche of reform that's coming, and anything they can do to try and stop it and to try and damage, damage. farage. so from their vantage point , it from their vantage point, it probably is justified because if they can damage him at all, they

will be, i think i think it's the trouble is that what he said is being seen as him saying it's not what he said, but it's seen as him saying that that putin was completely justified in invading ukraine, which of course, he is not, and it might be an excuse that he was able to use to the russian people. i've got to do this. what i think putin is doing is playing for time, because he knows that if trump is elected, which is very much on the cards in the autumn , much on the cards in the autumn, and then funding for the west to send arms to ukraine will stop, or funding from the usa will stop . and then he thinks it's stop. and then he thinks it's oven stop. and then he thinks it's over. game, set and match. so that's my fear that putin is just playing for time until the west runs out of weapons, but not the backlash . it depends on not the backlash. it depends on your vantage point, whether it's justified or not. >> wouldn't you expect all these political parties to jump on the bandwagon anyway? this is no surprise that they would say that. but what are your what's your thoughts? >> of course, he's not an apologist for putin. the guy

probably loathes, well, he did say putin. >> he admires him. >> he admires him. >> that's what he said before , >> that's what he said before, which is why people get muddled in their minds. >> well, he didn't say that there. >> no, but he has said that's why people got muddled in their minds. >> yeah, but when he said that was you know, it's okay. >> so, so people are forgetting that two years ago when it all kicked off, the reason vladimir putin gave for invading wasn't about eu expansionism or the potential of nato aggression, quote, unquote. >> it was because he wanted de—nazify. again, this is just complete baloney. he did start his propaganda was all about the ukrainians persecuting the russians to the east of ukraine and to the west of russia and de—nazification of the government. there was nothing at all two years ago about eu expansionism or indeed nato aggression. so people are forgetting that putin never said anything. if my memory is correct , putin never said correct, putin never said anything about eu expansionism. so nigel farage is giving his personal insight and opinion into only vladimir putin knows the real reason. >> i mean, look , i said at the >> i mean, look, i said at the time that i think the reason why

he's doing it is because he wants the rest to unite and come back and get the whole old ussr back and get the whole old ussr back together. >> and that's what i said. and i remember everyone saying, no, it isn't. and then there was loads of people saying, oh, well, you know, if nato hadn't expanded, then putin wouldn't have. there were plenty of people saying that at the beginning, and from all different parties. and now they're all they're all hiding under a rock and pretending that nigel farage is saying something that a lot of people weren't saying, which they all were. a lot of them were saying. >> nigel is saying that because he's saying, i've always said that i was the only one. he's claiming credit for being the only person who saw it coming. >> no, he saw it coming. but the others were saying yes, similar things. not that it was coming, but they said they used they said that this was a do you know what it tells you though? >> how petrified the rest of labour lib dems, tories are of nigel farage. any quote unquote mistake. they're leaping on him all over him, trying to trying to trying to, muddy, muddy his reputation amongst voters now trying to put him down. >> but you could do that with anything. >> so with keir starmer, what was the thing that keir starmer

did recently refusing to pay for private health care. right. so when he claimed that he's not going to he wouldn't pay for it. and a lot of people didn't believe him. so then people pile in rishi sunak was d—day. everyone piled in it literally. >> but that frightened of him. >> but that frightened of him. >> that's right . they're all >> that's right. they're all fighting the farage. yes, but but of course they would be nigel farage. they would be, because he's the new kid on the block, as it were. >> but, i mean, it's what elections are all about. you go for the jugular, you go for the weak spot in your in your opponents. of course you do. i mean, that's why they're such fun. >> yeah, well, but but ultimately, do you think it will have an impact on reform support? >> no i don't i don't think it will. maybe even it will increase it. it will. christine's right. the more exposure farage gets, the more popular he gets. loves it because i, i mean, i'm not sure whether people not the people aren't bothered. >> they are concerned about the war. but most of us are looking at our, you know, what's going on domestically here in this country as to the reason why we will for vote whoever we vote for. and i don't think that it's really that relevant to people in their psyche when they're voting . voting. >> i don't think i think one

problem is that nigel has said that the war is immoral and indefensible, but what he is on the other hand, he is giving putin a defence. i did it because of the expansion of nato. >> he's saying what putin's defence is to his people. he's giving him a defence. i think there's two very different things. he's saying what putin is using as a defence to his people, and that is probably the truth. it's a hard truth, but i'm not sure that it's i don't believe that he's actually saying that he's blaming. >> if putin genuinely believed that nato was going to expand and be a threat to him , then and be a threat to him, then that gives him a defence. >> surely he would have said that at the beginning rather than the de—nazification? >> well, listen, i don't think that we'll get into the mind of president, an evil man, and must be defeated. >> anyway, that's my view. >> anyway, that's my view. >> well, trump will have to cough up a lot of the russians would say who support him would say that he's a brilliant leader and is doing what needs to be done. but what do you think gbnews.com/win? you'll say more to come. stay tuned up . up next worldview duddndge duddridge will be here to give us the

world. good afternoon. welcome. it's ten minutes to 5:00. i'm nana akua. this is britain's news channel. and it's time for world view. travelling over to america . let's get the latest. let's speak to the host of the politics people podcast. paul duddridge, and let's find out what's going on stateside. so paul what's going on stateside. so paul, let's start with the candidates they're preparing for thursday and the biden trump debate, it's going to be interesting that it is. >> it's going to be at 2 am. uk time. >> so hopefully you'll stay awake for that, hopefully biden will stay awake for it. >> that's more more sort of on the edge of our seats about. >> but yeah, the preparation from both camps is slightly different, apparently, biden has been holed up in camp david since friday. >> preparing meticulously for this, debate because we talked about it last week. >> they got no notes. >> they got no notes. >> they got no notes. >> they just got a bottle of water a piece of paper and a pen. that's about it.

>> and trump just carrying on doing rallies. >> i think he's putting a couple of days into it. >> he'll have a look over it. but i think he's just going to, as the kids say, rock up and have a go on thursday. >> well, it'll be very interesting, although i think he gives that impression, but i reckon he'll be studying his notes and getting his stuff together to get ready to take down biden, but i don't think that'll be difficult. i can't even envisage how joe biden is going to be able to respond independently to questions in a debate. i mean, how is that going to happen? he's not he's not really with it, is he? yeah. >> i've cut myself shaving. it's 19. it's going to be 90. i've cut myself shaving. this is terrible, it's 90 minutes. how is he going to sustain for 90 minutes? i believe that under the rules that they can't challenge one another, which is going to be almost impossible for trump to do. >> so, i think that that's been built in, that's been baked in to hopefully, that's going to be, that rule is going to be broken by trump, but that's part of, i think, the security bubble. >> again, the weird thing about this is that it's happening in june at all. september, october

after the conventions is when these things happen, which is making people think that, yes, biden's going to be replaced . biden's going to be replaced. it's a very odd timing. i think that he might not. yeah. i think it's really possible. >> i think it's really i don't even know why they're pretending that he's everyone knows he's not making any decisions at all. what about the trump campaign ? what about the trump campaign? they've got a lot more cash than biden. also, a single donation of $50 million. do they know who that was from? >> yeah, a millionaire mellon. >> yeah, a millionaire mellon. >> his name is mellon. >> his name is mellon. >> very, very famous. wealthy, donon >> very, very famous. wealthy, donor, huge fortune . i believe donor, huge fortune. i believe he's a billionaire, 116 million. that trump has cash on hand now. >> and, for the campaign , this >> and, for the campaign, this is and 91 million for the biden campaign . campaign. >> and that's a huge difference. look, you know, follow the money on these things. >> there are people now prepared to put 50 million individual donations into donald trump. >> these people are not stupid. they're seeing the direction of travel. so like i said, i've been a doom and gloom merchant

about this. things are looking positive. we're getting some poll results that are looking very, very positive. i'm still worried. >> i don't take it for granted. >> i don't take it for granted. >> but trump is leading by every metric at the moment. >> polling. polling with different various demographics. >> even the young people seem to be going for him. he's getting the youth vote, the black vote. latinos yeah. and look, finally, though, steve bannon , is he though, steve bannon, is he going to prison? is that what's going to prison? is that what's going to prison? is that what's going to happen? yes, it's going on at this point. >> he is at this point. he is he appealed. he was, subpoenaed and criminal. he's basically been done for, criminal contempt of congress because he defied a subpoena to appear for the january 6th committee when they were investigating the guided tour that went untoward. and so he basically has ignored this and not bothered. he's basically been done for contempt of court. he's got on, appealed it and appealed it and actually lost the appeal on thursday. and so at this point, he is going to prison, for four months on july the 1st. >> really ? well, that'll be >> really? well, that'll be interesting. paul duddridge, thank you. great to speak to you as ever. that is paul duddridge,

host of the politics people podcast. everything stateside . podcast. everything stateside. stay tuned, emma webber will be here live. she's the mother of barnaby webber. we'll hear her response to sir keir starmer's answer to her question earlier on in the week. this is. answer to her question earlier on in the week. this is . gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. welcome along to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. a perfect summer's day out there for most of us, but there is some patchy cloud about and later on it's going to turn a bit breezy and cloudy across the far northwest as this frontal system approaches. otherwise a ridge of high pressure for the vast majority bringing settled , majority bringing settled, summery conditions and plenty of sunshine . the best of the sunshine. the best of the sunshine. the best of the sunshine through the evening across northern and central parts of the uk, we've still got some cloud lingering around southwestern parts , and that may southwestern parts, and that may well thicken through the night, with some mist around coasts.

but where we've got the clear spells elsewhere as well, temperatures actually staying up 14, 15, perhaps 16 celsius. a muqqy 14, 15, perhaps 16 celsius. a muggy night in places, especially across central and southeastern parts, and for western scotland, thickening cloud outbreaks of rain and drizzle through the night with a freshening breeze. so it's a gloomy start. a damp start here, whilst for central and eastern scotland, southern scotland, as well as for parts of northern england, a sunny start, northern ireland also seeing some patchy rain, a few light showers, those showers tending to fizzle out through the morning. but for much of the rest of england into wales it's sunny skies to start on monday. however, we do still have some of that low cloud affecting southwestern areas , affecting southwestern areas, particularly around the coast, with some mist in places now through the day, many places just seeing fine weather continuing with plenty of warm sunshine in. there will be some areas of cloud still remaining across central parts and western scotland. seeing some drizzle at

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and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics. hitting the headlines right now. coming up, my outside guest now this houris up, my outside guest now this hour is emma webber. she's the mother of nottingham. attack victim barnaby webber, she will be responding live to sir keir starmer's answer to her question . it's the first time that she's done that on any media, so it'll be to good hear what she has to say. stay tuned for that, then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you trust labour not to raise taxes on working people? then with the sun out, you're probably all enjoying a glass of wine. but maybe don't ask alexa for permission . permission. >> alexa, should i be really cheeky and have another glass of wine in. but what does alexa say? stay tuned to find out what happens next. but first, let's get your latest . news. get your latest. news. >> thanks, nana. it's 5:01. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories. labour is calling on the gambling commission to name candidates being investigated over the

election date. betting scandal. pat mcfadden, labour's shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster , has written to the lancaster, has written to the commission's ceo urging for the details to be released before polling day. it comes amid reports that the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason , has taken a leave of mason, has taken a leave of absence. the tories director of campaigns , tony leigh and his campaigns, tony leigh and his wife laura saunders, are also being probed, as is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to an error of judgement. the home secretary, james cleverly, says it's inappropriate for party officials to have benefited from inside information. >> my view has always been the case that people in government should focus on delivering for the people of this country , the people of this country, people who are officials of the party should be focused on returning as many conservative mps as possible, so we can form a government so that we can serve the british people and anything other than that is

inappropriate . inappropriate. >> the labour leader has suggested that benefits offer less dignity to people than living, or rather earning a living, or rather earning a living through work. sir keir starmer took aim at handouts from the state in a piece for the sunday telegraph. he said serving the interests of working people means understanding that they want success more than state support. his comments come as the latest savanta poll shows labour retaining its lead over the conservatives. the poll has labour on 42% of the vote and the tories on 19. but shadow education secretary bridget phillipson says it's going to be closer than people think . closer than people think. >> know that there are, you know, a significant proportion of voters who haven't made their minds up. and in 175 seats, different polling points to the fact that those seats are just too close to call. so they could go either way. it could well be 100, a couple of hundred votes in either direction that could shape the outcome of that. and i'd just say if people want to turn a page on all the chaos and division that we've had over the

last 14 years, then they have to vote for it. they have to make it happen. it's not enough just to will it? >> manchester airport says flights are restarting now after a quarter were cancelled today due to a power outage . earlier, due to a power outage. earlier, all flights from terminals one and two were cancelled and passengers advised not to come to the airport after a major power cut caused huge queues and disruption to baggage processing. work is now underway to reschedule those flights in the coming days, and tomorrow's flights are not thought to be affected. gb news spoke with one passenger, who says they were left in the dark for hours . left in the dark for hours. >> we arrived and it wasn't. there was no disruption to start with. we were all queuing up, it were queuing up outside car park, and we went in and they said , you just in a holding pen said, you just in a holding pen basically until we can get these further flights in first moved, but then not changed. and we were there for about 5 or 6 hours, just stood in terminal building. we never moved. >> what time did you arrive this morning? >> quite two. three in morning

and we were there. i don't think they told us until what we were doing until about ten or something like that. one at half, nine or something like when the cancelled flights search teams attempting to locate british teenager jay slater have narrowed their efforts now to small buildings close to where his phone last pinged in tenerife . pinged in tenerife. >> j slater went missing a week ago after he attended a music festival on the spanish island. it was his first holiday without his parents. his mother issued a direct plea yesterday saying we just need you home. those conducting the searches today could be seen looking into blue barrels outside one of those small buildings . just before he small buildings. just before he went missing on monday, the 19 year old called a friend saying he was lost and needed water for scotland are getting ready to take on hungary in their final group a game of the euros football tournament this evening. thousands of scottish fans are getting into the mood in germany, singing their way into tonight's game, and not even rain can dampen the tartan

army's spirits and for good reason. as scotland's clash with hungary could see their team reach the knockout stage of a major tournament for the first time. critics didn't give the injury hit scots much of a hope after their five one opening loss to hosts germany in munich, but a one all draw with the swiss has placed them within reach of qualification . a bit reach of qualification. a bit more sport for you and andy murray will not play at wimbledon this year after undergoing surgery on a spinal cyst. the 37 year old three time grand slam champion was hoping to make a farewell appearance this summer, but the scot went under the knife today after withdrawing from his second round match at queen's earlier this week. murray has suffered from back injuries in the past, having first undergone surgery back in 2013. for the latest stories , sign up to gb news stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or why not go to gb news carmelites now back to .

nana. >> thank you. very good afternoon. it'sjust >> thank you. very good afternoon. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 5:00. this is a gb news. we are britain's election channel. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, onune nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. and for the next hour , me and my for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is danny kelly and christine hamilton. still to come. now my guest today has been bravely campaigning for changes to the law after the tragic death of her son. she asks the keir starmer a question this week and she'll be sharing her reaction to the response for the first time. it is, of course, emma webber. she's the mother of barnaby webber. then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you trust labour not to raise taxes on working people? labour's reportedly creating a shopping list of

taxes they want to raise to fund their spending with wealth taxes, including capital gains tax, said to be on the table. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you trust labour not to raise taxes on working people ? and as ever, on working people? and as ever, some of your thoughts, your views? post your comments gbnews.com forward slash your say . so of course every sunday say. so of course every sunday at five i have my outside guest and today my guest has bravely campaigned for changes to the law after her son, barnaby webber was tragically murdered last year, barnaby was fatally stabbed whilst walking back from a university night out with fellow victim grace o'malley kumar. he was just 19 years old at the time. now barnaby's killer, valdo calocane admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility , but diminished responsibility, but his mother, emma webber, argues true justice has not been

served, says the families have been let down by police and the crown prosecution service. she's calling for a public inquiry into the case this week. she asked labour leader sir keir starmer whether he would follow through with the call for a pubuc through with the call for a public inquiry, or possibly a judge led inquest. let's listen to what sir keir had to say. >> just a horrific experience that she and all the family members and friends have been . members and friends have been. she's keen for legal reform and, you know well she wants a judge led inquiry. and i said when i met her that i thought that was the right way forward and we would do that. you will you will commit to that because i was very concerned when i heard from her directly about the way the system had let her and the other family members down in relation to the charges that were brought , the communications with the family, and so many other aspects. it was it was a really difficult meeting , nick, if i'm difficult meeting, nick, if i'm honest, just listening to what they had been through , and my

they had been through, and my resolve is to , to ensure that we resolve is to, to ensure that we have that inquiry and make sure that that doesn't happen to anyone else. i've had too many examples of, victims and family members being let down. we have to improve here. that was sir keir starmer speaking on lbc earlier this week. well i'm joined by emma webber, the mother of nottingham attack victim barnaby webber. it's really nice to talk to you and i appreciate you coming in. and for the first time, of course , i for the first time, of course, i want to hear your response to sir keir , his answer to your question. >> thank you. yeah. thank you, thank you for having me. >> nana. as i was saying to you off air, it's i'm so glad to be invited, but genuinely, the last place in the world that i want to be or any of the other family members want to be is on mainstream media and in the press. having to talk about this horror and seeing his photographs, it's so difficult . photographs, it's so difficult. ihave photographs, it's so difficult. i have to look away. but yes. so in answer to your question , i in answer to your question, i was i was again glad to be able

to put that to kie. we had met with him back in january of this year and i think that we're so we've had such trauma as families that we are suspicious of everybody and everything . and of everybody and everything. and so the opportunity to put that to him when he was live on air, i was interested to see what he was going to say, and i'm relieved that he has stood by his words. he's put it in writing as well. we've all got letters from him, and also from the attorney general, shadow attorney general, and shadow solicitor general. so, yeah, so we are expecting if labour do get into downing street then, there's already an open door and that very early on we'll be ianedin that very early on we'll be invited in for a meeting and they're, you know, they're taking it seriously , so. taking it seriously, so. >> so what? so for those people who don't know , what is a judge who don't know, what is a judge led inquiry and why, why will it make a difference? >> i think that's the opportunity for full candour, for full information we've

experienced already this week. >> i say we and it's always the wider we of the united families with our new legal team. you met you met neil the other week with me where already we're experienced , a shutdown of experienced, a shutdown of information , instances where information, instances where we've been promised reports, we've been promised reports, we've been promised access to information. and that's been we're not allowed to do that now because of gdpr rolling out all of all of the sort of old adages and a lot of backtracking from the cps and the police. but the police are shut down anyway. so an inquiry or an inquest judge led with a jury , they will, get led with a jury, they will, get all of the information and access to all of those documents so we can actually we know how much has already gone wrong. we dread to think what hasn't yet been uncovered, but i think the only way to make sure that we have got full candour is, is, is that root cause? clearly all of the individual reviews and investigations that we're having to be involved in aren't. some are marking their own homework,

some are, as the cps one was. but but some are better than others. but they're all silos. it's not that comprehensive. joined up. no. and this is this is what's happened to us. it's such a car crash. it's such a catastrophic error from his treatment for his condition, which we've never denied. we've never denied that he's not mentally unwell. >> so this is calocane is not calocane is he? >> is. he knew exactly what he was doing . it was premeditated. was doing. it was premeditated. it was planned. he had those knives for weeks and weeks. months. he'd only recently bought his sharpener, which he had in his rucksack that he carried. there's so many unanswered questions. i could be here for far too long for your viewers. but, you know, we're. i'm not going to accept them. we aren't going to accept how it's been dealt with and managed so far. so therefore, we think that the only the only way forward now is , is for it to be made now is, is for it to be made pubuc now is, is for it to be made public because, of course, he was sentenced , but he was placed was sentenced, but he was placed in a sort of hospital type

environment rather than actual prison. he's he's so he's received no punishment for his crime. he's received an indefinite hospital order. so he's a patient. so he's he's in a secure unit, but i think when you dig a little below the surface, this, this individual who's been diagnosed since 2020, there's a catalogue of escalating serious crimes he carried out, and attacks whilst he was at university , he he was at university, he graduated with a two, 1 degrees in mechanical engineering from nottingham a year before he slaughtered, thank you for the language from nottinghamshire police, our children and ian and he tried to kill three more people. he wouldn't have stopped. you know, he was clearly, clearly unwell. who who would do that if you weren't mentally unwell. there's a case. sorry i don't mean to, but there's a case going on in near where we live in exeter this week, where it's, a similar situation, but somebody that was released from a hospital said he

was going to kill somebody, said he wasn't. well enough. they released him anyway, and he was good to his word. he went and he stabbed the lady to death in exeter. he's standing trial for murder. even his diminished responsibility plea was not accepted . this this case. what accepted. this this case. what calocane did driving the vehicle as a weapon, stockpiling his weapons , having interactions weapons, having interactions with an eyewitness, but choosing not to kill the security guard of the home he was trying to break into phoning his brother before and during the murders. this is somebody who knew what he was doing, and so we've had to we've had to so far be silent and put up with the ineffectual investigation and the weak prosecution and the overreliance on, on doctors on expert doctors, it has to be uncovered because it's going to happen again. and of course, the last thing we ever want is to have a replication of what happened in nottingham last june. can't bnng nottingham last june. can't bring our our loved ones back,

but what we can maybe do is make enough noise to make enough change so things do actually change. >> and i notice you use the word slaughtered because this is another awful thing that happened. of course, the police was sharing whatsapp messages and describing the brutality of what happened and sharing it amongst themselves . amongst themselves. >> and this isn't an isolated incident, is it? of police forces in our country? using inappropriate messaging, taking photographs and sharing them for no, judicial reason? for no criminal reason. >> it's just sick, isn't it? it is. it's not acceptable. >> it's sick. but i think what's what's another example of when we say we're suspicious. we weren't told about any of this misconduct. we found out about it on the wednesday in nottingham in january, where we were in the courtroom after actually after we'd left the courtroom for the sentencing , it courtroom for the sentencing, it had been made public and one police officer had been named and shamed on the friday in a

disciplinary hearing. we knew nothing about it. they hadn't told us at all that any of this had happened. and then we had a we were questioning and questioning because this came about from a local , very small about from a local, very small press release. it went to a local, the nottinghamshire post who've been amazing. they released it. we were sent a copy of the link and then started questioning. and then we found out it wasn't just accessing of files and images. this, this was this shared disgusting whatsapp group that we then found out through a whistleblower that kate maynard, who's the chief constable, her son was in the whatsapp group . there's i don't whatsapp group. there's i don't want to be judge and jury and all of this, and i'm not a detective , i'm not a police detective, i'm not a police officer, i'm not a lawyer. but i think i'm hopefully relatively sane human being and relatively educated and questioning person. and, you know, so the more we questioned the tiny drips of information came out until it got to the point where clearly somebody had said to the chief constable, shut up, close down, don't make any further comments. and that's all we've had a wall of silence since, because this isn't, i mean, what you're

describing and the behaviour of the police is something that has happened on numerous occasions and we keep seeing it. >> why do you think our police are turning like this? what is happening? what is going on? >> i don't i don't know because ihave >> i don't i don't know because i have the utmost respect for all emergency workers . yeah, i all emergency workers. yeah, i work for the nhs myself and i understand gallows humour. i understand gallows humour. i understand the need to be able to process these difficult things. but you know, the message that that was written wasn't written by the officer that was disciplined. actually the police officer that wrote this message, i believe has had a management intervention. so he's had a ticking off. he's had he's had a ticking off. he's had he's had a word i wanted to try and address what you've said about how do we make changes, maybe try to make them understand how it feels as the parent of those students who were properly butchered, that night. and i asked kate manall to, to allow me to write to them privately, i didn't want to see them doing the name and shame them doing the name and shame them a good idea. and she she shut me down and she wouldn't allow it. she wouldn't allow it. so therefore i had a choice

ehhen so therefore i had a choice either. go quietly or took the stand. i took and released the letter publicly because i'm hoping that, you know, even if 1 or 2 emergency workers read that and it makes them think differently in the future, then that's it doesn't have to be seismic impact that we make as, as the families, but it's enough to hopefully make people think twice, because i bet in that whatsapp group there were the majority of them are probably parents. and so i asked them to pause, walk past your child's bedroom and look at where they've left their shoes, their clothes, their bits and bobs , clothes, their bits and bobs, their stuff they buy on holidays over the years and imagine that's the last time you'll even that's the last time you'll ever, ever see it. >> it's just every every parent's worst nightmare. it absolutely is. i don't even know how you're coping with it. i don't, but i, i respect the fact that something must change, and we have to make sure that something changes as a result of this. i mean, i, you know , i'm this. i mean, i, you know, i'm open and i've always said that for times like this, i don't want to pay for people like this, like calocane, i would bnng this, like calocane, i would bring back the death penalty that has always been my way because we know who did it. there's no question about what

they did and i just wouldn't have them on the planet because it would make it a safer place. but obviously that's not where we are in other countries. it absolutely would be. yeah. >> i mean, it's sadly not our our legal system. our judicial system is archaic and it's out of date. and i've been told that by alex chalk, who's our current justice minister. he said to me, emma, just because it's the law, it doesn't mean it's right. and just because it's the law, it doesn't mean it doesn't need to change. and it does. it has to change. and it does. it has to change. the only good thing that came out of the alleged independent, review of the cps handung independent, review of the cps handling of the case, which we do feel like was marking their own homework. the one thing that did come out of it was the director said , this is a clear director said, this is a clear example of the need for change in homicide laws, because it wasn't just those things, it was even the way they treated calocane is that how we say it ? calocane is that how we say it? i say calocane, but both, both ways. yeah. i mean, he's a monster . ways. yeah. i mean, he's a monster. he's he's i don't like to attribute a name to him, but how they treated him instead of, as you said, they didn't take samples of under his nails. >> they didn't check. they

didn't even check his blood to see if he was under the influence or any of the things that they should have done. i was i was reading this, this is joyful sort of sunday afternoon, reading around the corner before coming in to see you today. >> what is expected , of custody >> what is expected, of custody of the investigation officers alexander's. i'm going to name him . he's a senior investigation him. he's a senior investigation officer, and we were told all the way through, he's a murderer. he's a monster, he's evil. he's going down. it's a case of making sure he goes away for life . we didn't have any for life. we didn't have any indication that they could even be a manslaughter. oh, wow. acceptance until the 23rd of november, calocane didn't go into ashworth. sorry. into the into ashworth. sorry. into the into the secure unit until the 1st of november. so this is somebody that spent four days in custody. there was no mental health assessment of him during custody. the police officers, he refused to have intimate samples. they didn't even do theirjob properly and take samples. they didn't even do their job properly and take the bafic their job properly and take the basic non—intimate samples. we've just found out the first person i've told is you, in the

media that we've been told all the way along, we've had even an email from the chief constable confirming that the nail clippings taken have been kept. we were told two days ago. oh, actually, no, it wasn't nail nail clippings. it was, nail shavings, which basically being i'm sorry to be blunt about this, but that's going to be the blood and skin of my son and of grace, naveen, who were trying to fight for their lives and successfully with this monster who repeatedly stabbed them dozens of times. that's what they've kept . they can't. how they've kept. they can't. how could she? not somebody who's driving a van as a weapon. they didn't breathalyse him. they took toxicology without our permission. on barnaby and grace . but they didn't. and ian. but they didn't bother with valdo calocane and in the 24 hours, the first 24 hours in custody, they didn't know what his you know, his, his they hadn't interviewed allegedly everyone who'd had been involved to see if he had any history of drug or

alcohol abuse. why wouldn't you just do your job properly now? >> had they found that he was under the influence, he couldn't he couldn't pleaded, diminished, pleaded. >> diminished. no. >> diminished. no. >> and therefore he would be in jail. yeah. >> i mean, you know, am i am i being cynical? i yes, i am, because it feels rushed. it feels hastened and it feels like this is clearly somebody who needs to be put away where he goes doesn't really matter as long as he's put away. what would the cost be of a of a full trial? what failings would come out? i'm going to put it out there because i've got nothing but the truth to and questions to ask. but, when you start to look into the overwhelming evidence of, of the expert doctors and you start to look into them and you start to look into them and you start to look into them and you start to look into the timeline , how they into the timeline, how they approached it, it it stinks . and approached it, it it stinks. and we will, i promise you. and i hope that somehow they hear this and they know who they are. we will uncover the. yeah, yeah, you're getting paid 15 to

£20,000 for a report. you only have to do a couple of those a month. yeah. you know, when did he last. when did these eminent doctors actually last treat somebody in therapy? >> well, we will get to the bottom of it and we will absolutely have to. yeah, i know dunng absolutely have to. yeah, i know during the week you've got a piece coming out in the times telegraph or the telegraph. >> yes. not me that they're doing a piece tomorrow. tomorrow, which is another unanswered question that we've had evasion and, and well, a wall of silence either or the question of because he's a patient. he's in this hospital, as well as it costing upwards of £300,000 a year to treat him and keep him in there. and i have to try and be fair. and he's got. yes, this interview has to be treated. however, it appears that, he's in receipt of his benefits. so if you read the eminent doctors report, there's an awful lot given over to how to manage his condition, to make him better, to move him from high security to medium security. and if he does come

out , what sort security. and if he does come out, what sort of needs need to be put in place? the statistics are nana that hospital and definite orders that the perpetrator is the people that have received them are. it's 87% are within ten years, 98% are out within 20. i keep saying this on loop because that's what despite despite the judges and despite despite the judges and despite the unduly lenient sentence review, it's unlikely. it's improbable he'll come out. you know, we have to make him the next ian brady and fred west . that's our lifetime of making this monster's name so bad that successive governments and ministers can't risk releasing him. but when you're reading, well, we had it read to us one of one of the reports, and so much was given over to making him better. and i'm not saying you shouldn't try and treat the condition, but this is somebody who was diagnosed in 2020. he chose not to take his meds. yeah, he lied about his medication. he stockpiled his medication. he stockpiled his medication. the obviously the

health services in nottinghamshire have an awful lot to answer for and that's a full investigation. but at least they've admitted it. they've already said we know we failed the police in leicestershire and nottinghamshire. and the cps on the other hand , leave a lot to the other hand, leave a lot to be desired with how they conduct themselves. >> well, emma, we will get to the bottom of this and thanks and i appreciate you coming in and i appreciate you coming in and telling us and talking so openly about it. yeah. and it needs to be fixed because we do not want this to keep happening. we need our police force, our crown prosecution service to be working effectively. and we need people like public safety locked up properly. yeah. or in my view, executed. but obviously yeah, that's not available here in this country. and yes, it's really lovely to talk to you. thank you. so much. and the pieces in the telegraph is it telegraph tomorrow. >> telegraph. >> telegraph. >> yeah. all right. thank you very much. we'll point people to that. that is of course, emma webber, she's barnaby webber's mother and we appreciate her coming in to tell us how she hopes that things will change. and we've all got to get behind her on that one. this is gb news. up next, it is time for our great british debate this houn our great british debate this hour. and be looking at

whether you trust labour not to raise taxes

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are creating a shopping list of taxes they want to raise. apparently they want to fund their spending commitments with an increase in wealth taxes , an increase in wealth taxes, including capital gains tax. so i mean, i'm just asking that straightforward to you. do you trust labour not to raise taxes on working people? and keir starmer made an interesting definition of what they are. so joining me now to discuss former leader of the ukip party neil hamilton. political political commentator benedict spence and also political commentator leigh harris, who's actually in the studio. but his head is touching the top . you're too high up, the top. you're too high up, lee. i don't know what's happened to you. right. so i'm going to start with you, leigh. don't worry about it. it's fine. leigh. so we're going to start with you, leigh, do you trust labour not to raise taxes on working people and bear in mind, keir starmer has sort of defined working people as people who work. they have some savings, and they go on a few holidays. i think it was one of the things he said, it's in their dna. >> nana i think it's absolutely we're going to have to expect them to raise taxes. >> we know on working people. >> we know on working people. >> well, if you can define exactly what working people is, i think he said with anyone that

had savings was was a working person. >> but you know, what we do know is, is they've promised not to raise national insurance , vat, raise national insurance, vat, income tax, corporation tax, apparently vie. >> and what we also know is that there's going to be they're going to be putting a vat levy on private school fees. which which in my view is absolutely crazy and will actually only affect, the poorer parents, the less wealthy parents who are struggling to send their kids to a private school. and it's not going to affect rich people in the slightest. they'll be okay. they're going to put their kids straight into. they'll pay the increased fees. >> do you think it's a sneaky sort of way of calling them working people because they're taxing the school. so if the school pass it on to the people who are in the school, then they are inadvertently, indirectly taxing working people , but taxing working people, but they're not doing it a bit like capital gains tax. you're taxing the house, not the person. so then you can maybe tax that and then you can maybe tax that and then with yeah, and if somebody's dead capital gains again the person is dead. so

you're not charging or taxing a working person at all because the person is dead. neil hamilton what do you what do you think of this? >> well , i think of this? >> well, i agree think of this? >> well , i agree with what's >> well, i agree with what's been said, you know, labour and tax and spend , go together, tax and spend, go together, don't they? >> every single labour government we've ever had has vastly increased public spending and raised the tax burden. the trouble is, of course, the tories have already done this for them. we have the highest tax burden since the attlee government just after the war. and the national debt is twice what it was five years ago. so labour going to find it very difficult to increase public spending without putting up taxes. and given that the four taxes. and given that the four taxes that they've said they won't raise tax rates on account for 70% of all the revenue that tax is raised in the country, they're going to squeeze the money out of other smaller taxes. it was ridiculous to think that the capital gains tax could possibly make much difference. if you add together capital gains tax, stamp duty and inheritance tax, they only raise 40 billion. income tax raises 270 billion, so, you know, these are these are not

going to be sources of revenue to cover the kind of big spending aspirations that they have got. spending aspirations that they have got . you know, we've got have got. you know, we've got 600,000 more people employed in the public sector today than before covid. you know, the pubuc before covid. you know, the public sector wage bill is massive, and public sector unions will be expecting pay day to arrive pretty soon under a labour government. >> well, it will be interesting, as you said, 75% of the taxes, the money that comes in are from the money that comes in are from the taxes that they said they're not going to raise. >> so i'm wondering how they're going to make the shortfall. let's bring in benedict spence. benedict, what do you think? do you trust labour not to raise taxes on working people ? taxes on working people? >> i mean, at some point they're going to have to ultimately , i going to have to ultimately, i think that they will try. >> i don't think that tax rises, major tax rises will come in straight away because i think that they'll want to be seen to be somewhat magnanimous. >> i think there's already been discussion about, delay on the vat, introduction on, school fees, private school fees, for instance, until next year. >> so i do think that there will be some things that they won't bnngin be some things that they won't bring in straight away. >> i think capital gains tax will be one of the things that they do bring in quite straight

away, because they'll that will be framed as, you know, fat cats and investors and the like, profiting off no work. >> so that'll be an easier thing to sell. but i think, as has already been pointed out, the tax burden in this country is already at the highest point in the post—war period. that's not news, but that does actually, strangely, perhaps even perversely, it gives labour an incentive to put it up even higher because there is the sense that the tax burden is already very high. >> people understand that labour will put up the taxes, ergo, what's the issue? because they're already going to vote for the labour party in a landslide. but i do think that they will wait at least a year until you start to see those sort of incremental increases, because they don't want it to be the case that the goodwill that they will have, whatever goodwill that they have after winning the election, as they're almost certainly going to do, dissipates straight away because people feel hammered even more. i think it will be a slow incremental increase, over the next 2 or 3 years. and then after that period, they will look to reduce those things, to then say to people, look, the tories gave you record numbers of taxes and we are working to bnng of taxes and we are working to bring them down. i think that's what they'll try and do . well,

what they'll try and do. well, well leigh harris though i mean they have to find the shortfall and tax people, the conservatives. you could argue have brought us to the highest tax burden ever. but then obviously they did have covid and a few other things that were unexpected. but still the bottom line is that they have raised taxes more than any labour party, so we can't trust them ehhen party, so we can't trust them either, can we? or who is anybody available to trust when it comes to taxes ? it comes to taxes? >> no, i think you're absolutely right. the conservatives have given us the highest tax burden since world war two. so i think we can probably expect something very similar, if not worse, from the labour party. and actually what i don't understand is why i think they're going to it's what's what they're not telling us. they're not telling us that they're going to be doing capital gains tax, council tax, inheritance tax, and they are going to be attacking the wealthy. and i think keir starmer today put a piece in the telegraph, and it was all based around growth. and i think that it's going to be counter productive to that growth

strategy. my view is, is, is he's got a trick up his sleeve where he's going to align us closer to the european union. and in some way reduce those, excuse me, trading barriers. and that's going to be a cheap way of maybe trying to spur on growth that way. i personally don't think we need that. i think we can do it in other ways. but of course, we know keir starmer is a he absolutely loves the european union. but i think that's what he's going to do. >> but he has said that he's not going to reverse brexit or anything like that. and actually if you look, the european union is lurching more to the right. so it's a completely different eu that we would if we were adjoining would be completely different to eu and also, neil, we're getting a lot of i was reading in the daily mail today that a lot of wealthy people are actually beginning to leave the country because they're scared of the labour tax rises , of course. >> well, you know, the tories have already removed the so—called tax privileges of non—doms, i.e. people who are domiciled abroad but live in the united kingdom and until now have not been taxed on income

that they make abroad out of investments, but which isn't brought back to this country . so brought back to this country. so people who have got this non—dom status are leaving the country in droves already. and because the tax regime is so burdensome, and the idea that labour can grow the economy whilst we retain tax rates at the penal rates we got now, as well as the burden of overregulation , which burden of overregulation, which we should have been scrapping since we left the eu, but the tories had done nothing to achieve. it just means that the economy isn't going to grow. when blair was elected in 1997, they also promised they wouldn't put up taxes. the economy was growing strongly from 1997 till 2001, but then after 2001, labour took the brakes off the spending plans and everything then went haywire. so it may be that that's what we're going to see. that, as benedict said in in short term, tax rises won't take place, but ultimately the spending pressures will just become absolutely impossible for labour to hold. >> let's get benedict on up

taxes to pay for it. >> well, i want to hear what benedict has. final word to you, benedict. you've got about 30s. >> i mean, it's interesting that neil sort of references the european union. of course, starmer is a europhile and there is a slight issues around the fact that the european union is lurching to the right . fact that the european union is lurching to the right. but neil is completely right that the conservatives haven't made the most of the opportunities of brexit. but those opportunities are not going to be sort of leapt upon by the labour party. it doesn't have it as much as it has tax rises in its dna. it also doesn't have in its dna the desire for there to be structural reform, the opportunities for economic growth without high taxation to pay growth without high taxation to pay for public services exists in this country. neither party has the gumption to do it, and that's why we're in the mess that's why we're in the mess that we are. that's why we're in the mess that we're in. >> and it's a sticky old mess we're in. thank you very much, neil, neil hamilton and benedict spence and of course, leigh harris. thank you very much. right. well, i'm looking at what some of you have been saying on your say and somebody has said, ernie said, no way would i trust labour to not raise taxes. peter collins says, oh my god. leigh harris is in the studio now. leigh harris that's what he said. he said, you're here. yes. leigh harris is in the studio

with me now. he's just over there. yeah. so, lee. yeah. how's it like, do you enjoy the studio? >> i am very much enjoy. it's a bit different. >> we've got quite a few people getting in. i wouldn't trust labour to run a bath , let alone labour to run a bath, let alone this country. that's what jenny says in moorsley. >> no . me neither. i can >> no. me neither. i can understand that. >> well, well you know , some >> well, well you know, some people are thinking that actually labour are better than any of the alternatives , let's any of the alternatives, let's see, barbara says, no , she was see, barbara says, no, she was talking about the missing man in tenerife, who? oh oh, there we go. ernie says, thank god. nana. i thought you had forgot about the news. anything could happen or since five minutes ago. i don't know what he's talking about, but the other one was better, and then what have we got? barnaby, grace and ian. plus, let's see what i've got here. what else is there? yeah. so this is what people are saying. mostly somebody talking about nigel farage as well. keep those messages coming. gbnews.com/win your say thank you very much, lee harris, for coming in and being part of my panel and being in the studio, and we'll get him on it again.

of course. right. so stay tuned. this is nothing without your views as ever, we welcome your voice to the program. gbnews.com forward slash your say right . forward slash your say right. let's go to our voices. why not. they're here. well have we got . they're here. well have we got. oh there are three of you okay i'm going to start with you . i'm going to start with you. julie. julie, you're there in bedfordshire. julie, what do you think? can we trust labour with taxes? oh absolutely. >> don't trust them. no, i wouldn't trust them as far as i can throw them. sadly, jenny has already stolen my line, which was labour. couldn't run a bath, let alone the country. but there you go , i think, you know, just you go, i think, you know, just listening to your your panel there already. benedict, and lee and, it's clear that they're going to put taxes up. they have to because where are they going to because where are they going to get the income to run the country and also the changes that they want to make. they'll probably not bring it in straight away, as already has been said, to make it look good, but i think they have to bring it in and put taxes up because otherwise they're just not going to have the revenue to make any changes that they want to.

>> but but not working people though, it's not going to be working people, although i don't know how that's going to work. bnan know how that's going to work. brian doogan , what do you think? brian doogan, what do you think? >> hi, nana, well, i mean, it's not a very healthy overall economic, position situation that, whatever the new government is, will inherit, as you've quite rightly pointed out, the tax burden is at its highest point since the second world war. i think it's a record high. and so , it's going to be high. and so, it's going to be really difficult. but they are committed to those pledges. and, he's already stated , where the he's already stated, where the labour party is going to be if they come into government, and, you know, in terms of trust, well, why would we not trust labourin well, why would we not trust labour in terms of, what the tories have done? >> well, why indeed, maybe something to do with 27 u—turns, i don't know. listen, that's just a thought, right? let's go to jacqui samson in saint albans. you've got about 30s. jacqui because i'm in the middle. there's eaten up all your time . your time. >> yeah, i would say, it's without a doubt taxes will be

raised. i think you can trust they won't raise taxes for ordinary working people because they're very aware of gaining that vote. but i definitely think there will be a whole slew of taxes, capital gains tax , of taxes, capital gains tax, stamp duty tax. >> i think they will have to put taxes up in other areas and at the higher rates. >> there are so many people on that borderline, it's going to hit the people in the middle quite hard. >> yeah, yeah, i hear you, jackie . thank you. look how she jackie. thank you. look how she did that. so succinct. unlike you two rambling on i'm joking. thank you very much. next time i'll put you first. next time after that. jackie. jackie. samson. thank you very much. also, brian doogan in solihull and julie ford in bedfordshire. lovely to talk to you. good to them isn't it . especially on them isn't it. especially on this hot well listen, coming i'll be speaking to the former armed forces

good afternoon. if you've just tuned in. where have you been? there's only 12 minutes left on the programme. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. thank you. we're in trouble. be quiet . political leaders have quiet. political leaders have condemned nigel farage's russia comments. let's hear from james heappey. he's former armed forces minister. he joins me now. james thank you very

>> well, we will try that again. i'm going to try it again. let's get a touch. we've got joining us now. former armed forces minister james us now. former armed forces ministerjames heappey. us now. former armed forces ministerjames heappey . oh, ministerjames heappey. oh, we've lost james heappey. right. okay right. well, you know, i'm going to i'm going to do clickbait because this is the part of the show where i show you a little clip that caught my eye, during the week, i've been

teasing you all show. so let's see what happens next. when this woman asks a smart speaker, a humorous , well, humorous question. >> alexa, should i be really cheeky and have another glass of wine ? wine? >> yeah, sure. why not? >> yeah, sure. why not? >> it's not like you've drank every day this week or you've been piling on weight for months. have another glass of cab sav in your pyjamas. months. have another glass of cab sav in your pyjamas . chin cab sav in your pyjamas. chin chin, you fat pig . do you have chin, you fat pig. do you have another question ? no are . another question? no are. >> alexa. alexa is funny, isn't she? or he she my she she can be quite rude because. good morning . i'm like i didn't say good morning, but i asked her the time. she says good morning. if i haven't spoken to her all day. sometimes she ignores me a bit like my panel who are joining me now. so time for supplement sunday where they discuss some of the news that caught their eye. joining me, christine hamilton and danny kelly. right. so who's going to go first. who's got okay. >> well well mine is about

philanthropy. sir elton john is the uk's most generous celebrity ahead of jk rowling and then lord sugar , the rocketman lord sugar, the rocketman singer, who's £450 million, his his fortune doles out 74 grand a day to charities. >> oh, that's nice of him. amazing. christine. yours? >> well, mine is that the taxpayer is going to fund an academic research project to find the political nature of white supremacist dairy product. milk, milk and colonialism. white supremacists . i mean, it's white supremacists. i mean, it's just unbelievable the intimate and political political nature of milk. the ultimate goal is to develop new methodologies for investigating our relationship with milk. right. well, what this is a taxpayer funded research. >> it's ridiculous. it's ridiculous. right well, on today's show, i've been asking, do you trust labour? not to raise taxes on working people? according to our twitter poll, 5% of you say yes , you do trust 5% of you say yes, you do trust them, but 90% of you say no . and them, but 90% of you say no. and i asked also, is the backlash against nigel farage justified ? against nigel farage justified? 10% of you say yes , and it's got

10% of you say yes, and it's got to be 90% of you to say no. i'm going to say a huge thank you to my brilliant panel. danny kelly, danny, thank you so much. and also christine hamilton, thank you very much. pleasure. and also a huge thank you to you at home for your company. it's been a pleasure. as ever. i look forward to seeing you next week. same time, same place . 3:00 on same time, same place. 3:00 on saturday. i'll leave you with neil oliver. he's next. after the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hi there. welcome along to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. a perfect summer's day out there for most of us, but there is some patchy cloud about and later on it's going to turn a bit breezy and cloudy across the far northwest as this frontal system approaches . otherwise, a ridge approaches. otherwise, a ridge of high pressure for the vast majority bringing settled summery conditions and plenty of sunshine. the best of the sunshine. the best of the

sunshine through the evening across northern and central parts of the uk, we've still got some cloud lingering around southwestern parts, and that may well thicken through the night with some mist around coasts. but where we've got the clear spells elsewhere, well, temperatures actually staying up 14, 15, perhaps 16 celsius. a muqqy 14, 15, perhaps 16 celsius. a muggy night in places especially across central and southeastern parts, and for western scotland , parts, and for western scotland, thickening cloud outbreaks of rain and drizzle through the night with a freshening breeze. so it's a gloomy start . a damp so it's a gloomy start. a damp start here, whilst for central and eastern scotland, southern scotland, as well as for parts of northern england, a sunny start northern ireland also seeing some patchy rain, a few light showers, those showers tending to fizzle out through the morning. but for much of the rest of england into wales, it's sunny skies to start on monday. however, we do still have some of that low cloud affecting southwestern areas, particularly around the coast, with some mist in places now through the day , in places now through the day, many places just seeing fine weather continuing with plenty

of warm sunshine. there will be some areas of cloud still remaining across central parts and western scotland, seeing some drizzle at times, but where we get the sunshine in the southeast up to 28 celsius with the warmest day of the year, so far. now monday evening brings further cloud and some outbreaks of rain, along with a strengthening breeze across the west of scotland. otherwise, for the vast majority, as we go through the middle of the week, it's going to stay sunny and increasingly hot. temperatures reaching 30 celsius in places and that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on

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commission to name candidates being investigated over the election date. betting scandal . election date. betting scandal. pat mcfadden, labour's shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster , has written to the lancaster, has written to the commission's ceo urging for the details to be released before polling day. it comes amid reports that the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason , has taken a leave of mason, has taken a leave of absence. the tories director of campaigns, tony leigh and his wife laura saunders , are also wife laura saunders, are also being probed, as is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams , who secretary, craig williams, who has admitted, to, quote, an error of judgement . the labour error of judgement. the labour leader has suggested that benefits offer less dignity to people than earning a living through work. sir keir starmer took aim at handouts from the state in a piece for the sunday telegraph. he said serving the interests of working people means understanding that they want success more than state support. his comments come as the latest savanta poll shows

labour retaining its lead over the conservatives. the poll