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since exodus of the wealthy since 2017. why the departure of millionaires from this country is a hollow victory, which will make all of us poorer. >> point, longer—term. and then, obviously, we'd want to see the uk return to the heart of europe i >> -- >> doesn't time fly on the eight year anniversary of the referendum? will brexit survive the next government ? also the next government? also tonight, with wimbledon around the corner, there's one noticeable absentee. the treatment of sue barker, unceremoniously dumped by the bbc, is a national disgrace . now bbc, is a national disgrace. now i wouldn't normally do two bbc topics two days in a row, but i don't make the news agenda and i'll be tackling the bbc and deaung i'll be tackling the bbc and dealing with their treatment of sue barker in a special take. at ten in an hour's time, you won't want to miss it. so two hours of
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big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. lots to get through. why we need millionaires after the news headunes millionaires after the news headlines and the independently wealthy ray addison . wealthy ray addison. >> thanks, mark, and good evening to you. our top stories tonight. >> labour is calling on the gambling commission to name candidates being investigated over the election date . betting over the election date. betting scandal. pat mcfadden, labour's shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, has written to the commission's ceo urging for the details to be released before polling day. it comes amid reports that the tory party's chief data officer, nick mason, has taken a leave of absence. the tories director of campaigns , tony leigh and his wife laura saunders, are also being probed, as is the prime minister's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to an error of judgement . and to an error of judgement. and the labour leader has suggested that benefits offer less dignity to people than earning a living through work. sir keir starmer
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took aim at handouts from the state. in a piece for the sunday telegraph, he said serving the interests of working people means understanding that they want success more than state support. of course, his comments come as the latest savanta poll shows labour on 42% of the vote and the conservatives on 19. flights have restarted at manchester airport after a quarter were cancelled due to a power outage. earlier, all flights from terminals one and two were cancelled, passengers being advised not to come to the airport after a major power cut caused huge queues and disruption to baggage processing work is now underway to reschedule them in the coming days , and tomorrow's flights are days, and tomorrow's flights are not thought to be affected . not thought to be affected. search teams attempting to locate british teenager jay slater have been narrowing their efforts down to small buildings close to where his phone last pinged in tenerife. today jay slater went missing on monday after attending a music festival on the spanish island. those conducting the searches could be
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seen looking into blue barrels outside one of the small buildings. just before he went missing. the 19 year old had called a friend and said he was lost and needed water. well, a rapidly developing story. more than six police officers, an orthodox priest and four gunmen have been killed in a series of shootings in dagestan. russian media is reporting . the region's media is reporting. the region's interior ministry says 12 other police officers have also been injured after the gunman opened fire at a synagogue, an orthodox church and a police post in the nonh church and a police post in the north caucasus region. both the synagogue and church were ablaze. there have also been reports and eyewitness videos showing people wearing dark clothing and shooting at emergency service vehicles, responding in makhachkala in southern russia . scotland are southern russia. scotland are playing hungary this evening in their final group a game of the euros football tournament. fans arrived in jubilant mood in the
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at the mhp arena in stuttgart , at the mhp arena in stuttgart, and the clash could see scotland reach the knockout stage of a major tournament for the first time. critics didn't give the injury hit scots much of a hope after their five one opening loss to hosts germany in munich, but a one all draw with the swiss has placed them within reach of qualification. it's currently nil nil. reach of qualification. it's currently nil nil . well, for the currently nil nil. well, for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common back now to . mark. >> thank you ray. >> thank you ray. >> welcome to a busy mark dolan tonight in the big story on the eight year anniversary of the referendum, should brexit be reversed to boost the economy. plus will it survive the next government? i'll do battle with a leading lib dem adviser who wants us back in in a take at ten special with wimbledon around the corner, there's one noticeable absentee. the
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treatment of sue barker, unceremoniously dumped by the bbc, is a national disgrace . bbc, is a national disgrace. also tonight, his university a waste of time and money for millions of young brits when they could do practical training. instead, i'll be asking my mark meets guest, former minister for skills and apprenticeships robert halfon , apprenticeships robert halfon, and reacting to all of the big stories tonight , claire pearsall stories tonight, claire pearsall nigel nelson and joseph david. plus the most important part of the show, your messages, they come straight to my laptop . come straight to my laptop. gbnews.com/yoursay and this show has a golden rule we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. a big two hours to come. the bbc's treatment of sue barker at ten. you won't want to miss it. but first, my big opinion . writing in the big opinion. writing in the guardian broadcast author and
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former banker nelson abbey has celebrated the departure of britain's super rich with the following headline. it reads as follows britain's millionaires are fleeing good night and good luck.i are fleeing good night and good luck. i say. are fleeing good night and good luck. i say . wow. well, 16,500 luck. i say. wow. well, 16,500 millionaires. that's right, 16,500 millionaires have left the uk since 2017, with almost 10,000 projected to leave this year alone. is this a cause for celebration ? are millionaires celebration? are millionaires bad for britain? well, of course it's very sad that we live in a world where someone can drive around in a gold plated rolls—royce, whilst others don't have a roof over their head. thatis have a roof over their head. that is a tragedy. but you don't help those at the bottom end of the economic ladder. by attacking the rich. it's my view that creating an environment unwelcoming to those people who make something of their lives, take risks and work hard . well,
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take risks and work hard. well, i think all it achieves is that we shoot ourselves in the foot, making ourselves poorer and killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. history is a great teacher, and it's clear that adopting a market economy based on free trade and wealth creation has seen billions of people lifted out of poverty. capitalism is not perfect. it's unequal capitalism is not perfect. it's unequal. it needs to be controlled and kept in check. but it works and it delivers for all. now, before you think that i want a society of haves and have nots, far from it. i believe in taxation. it's there to deliver great public services and offer support to those less fortunate. but an assault on the top end sees high achievers take flight , which impacts top end sees high achievers take flight, which impacts national income and harms everyone bashing the rich, encouraging them to live in other places might make a good headline. it might make a good headline. it might feel like just revenge on people with swimming pools and
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helicopter pads , but the painful helicopter pads, but the painful truth is that we need these rich people. we need their tax income. we need their investment, we need the businesses they create . we need businesses they create. we need the jobs and the employment that they generate. we need the innovation that they're behind and we need them to go shopping in this country. the vat and we need them to go shopping in this country . the vat alone in this country. the vat alone on a rolls royce spectre. other car brands are available, but this is the one i fancy. well, that's a car that's designed and built by british workers in the uk. the vat on one of those is £60,000. so a rich person buys one posh car and we get 60 grand straight into the nation's coffers . and this journalist coffers. and this journalist with a background in finance is happy to see these people go. make it make sense . yes, the make it make sense. yes, the rich have got to pay their share. absolutely but it's a great myth that they don't. in figures relating to 2019, the
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wealthiest 1% of the country paid 30% of all income tax and the wealthiest 10% paid 60. so 10% pay more than half. a brave chancellor of the exchequer would give up any of that . but would give up any of that. but the millionaires that we've already lost have taken their money with them. i don't see that as social justice. i see it as a race to the bottom, losing thousands of millionaires in a yearis thousands of millionaires in a year is a hollow victory, particularly when they go to our rivals. they go to paris, new york city and dubai. some activists go around wearing t shirts that say eat the rich. well, they'll be eating their words when they see the consequences . i'm sorry, folks, consequences. i'm sorry, folks, it's sad that we live in an unequal world. you've got people in ferraris and bentleys and jaguars and you've got other
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people. they don't have a home. but that is our system. and frankly, if you make the rich go away, we get poorer. but your reaction gbnews.com/yoursay se i'll get to your messages shortly. but first, tonight's top pundits. we have political commentator yosef david, former conservative adviser claire pearsall and gb news senior political commentator nigel sinclair. let me start with you. we need rich people. that is the reality. yes we do. >> and it's always i find the politics of envy and just general concern that others have something that they don't. and yes, we would all like to have that car that you put up there, that car that you put up there, that rolls royce or an aston martin in my case. >> is that what you've you've pencilled in an aston martin for the next car? >> i've pencilled that in throughout my years. but i've heard that nigel nigel's saving up for one for you, for your 60th. >> a lottery win for that one. >> a lottery win for that one. >> we would we would. but when you look at cars alone, not only is there the vat on the car purchase, there is also the road fund licence that you have to
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pay fund licence that you have to pay all of the rest of the fuel that you have to put in. all of that you have to put in. all of that has vat on it. the taxes go into the treasury . so just on into the treasury. so just on cars alone, that money we would lose if people disappeared off, took their cars over to dubai or singapore or wherever, or just didn't buy them, then any money fracturing that we have in this country would disappear. i don't like the fact that we see these people as a problem , when all we people as a problem, when all we need to do is actually just aspire to work a little bit harder. now, i know that that will probably get me an awful lot of abuse and i do appreciate that there are people scraping by that don't have anything, but just by getting rid of the rich and celebrating them, jetting out of here isn't going to make that person's life any better. >> indeed, nigel, this shouldn't be party political, should it? >> i think that ed davey , vie, >> i think that ed davey, vie, rishi sunak and keir starmer should be watching this and nodding their heads, because the bottom line is that rich people are the goose that lays the golden eggs. well, i mean, in a sense that rishi sunak and keir starmer are on the same side when it comes down to rich
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non—doms, they both want to tax them, which is, by the way, a diabolical mistake. >> well, i think not. but then i don't want the millionaires to leave. i think they should be in the country for all the reasons that claire says, but let's tax them properly . that claire says, but let's tax them properly. if that claire says, but let's tax them properly . if you tax the them properly. if you tax the top 350 richest families, a wealth tax of just 2, this is not my idea. this is the millionaires themselves , an millionaires themselves, an organisation called patriotic millionaires. pay it and they're saying they can do that voluntarily. >> they're saying they can set up a direct debit. >> right now. no, we have we have touched we have to actually, it has to be part of the tax system . the tax system. >> but that 2% would raise £16 billion and pay for all of labour's spending plans without having to dip into their other taxes, except it just takes it just takes one of those families to leave the uk and we're already minus. yeah, but the uk, because they don't pay any tax, they go to places like monaco. there's no inheritance tax, they don't pay. >> yosef. >> yosef. >> david i mean, you're not a particularly super rich man yourself, right? you work hard in your social work, right. so
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what is your view of the super rich ? rich? >> well, it it is simply a fact that if we lose millionaires from this country, the tax yield will be lower. there's no question about that. these are the people whose big spending helps to fuel the economy. they're hiring , helps to fuel the economy. they're hiring, employing thousands of people. they're paying thousands of people. they're paying more tax than than the vast majority of the of the people who live in the country. and what i can say is we're seeing the cumulative effect of , seeing the cumulative effect of, basically turning this country into a hostile place for people who are wealthy. and i think that feeds into a culture of jealousy. it's a culture where if you are successful, if you've worked hard, then people are going to deride you, and i think when we look at public life, there are people who who are wealthy and there's judgements put on their on, on their actions, not based on their abilities, but because they're rich. >> nigel, i've got an idea because, like you and like claire and like yourself, i really care about the nhs ,
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really care about the nhs, schools, crime, public services. >> so what i would do is i would slash taxes on the super rich to make britain a haven. when they talked about brexit back in the day, britain was going to become singapore on thames. right. i can really get behind that. i think that britain should be a low tax haven. >> what happened to that by the way? >> well, i know i'm still waiting, but i think what we should do is we should make britain the most attractive place in the world for rich people. so that we can have that investment, because rich people tend to invest. they don't just go shopping, they start businesses. like joseph said, they employ people. what's the argument there against reducing taxes on the rich? >> the whole point about rich people is they want to get fichen people is they want to get richer. what they're concerned aboutis richer. what they're concerned about is their own personal wealth. so if they want to live here, whether you're a foreigner, a non—dom, or whether whether you're a brit who's made a lot of money, you pay the correct amount of taxes. we the whole point of a situation of wealth in this country has gone topsy turvy. it was £40 billion. the top 200 families had back in 89 when the rich list started .
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89 when the rich list started. it's now got over £700 billion. the queen was the richest person back then. the king now is 280. >> james dyson. right. the creator of the dyson vacuum cleaner paid over £100 million in personal taxation last year. >> good. excellent >> good. excellent >> do you really want to make life uncomfortable for him that he goes somewhere else? >> well, obviously i would love bomb the guy. >> i would actually send him flowers every day and thank him. i might even send a lady around. >> but clearly he's not going somewhere, somewhere else. quite rightly, he's paying his fair share of tax. it's an awful lot of money, but great. that's the kind of person we need, and we want to keep him paying his taxes into the british economy. >> okay, claire, last word say. >> if you reduce the taxes, wouldn't you then stop those people shoving things into offshore bank accounts and you would do it anyway. you would discourage people from buying a non—dom at that point. >> greedy. >> greedy. >> they just. they just want to get and keep as much money as they can. there you go. >> well, listen, it's all kicked off in the studio. >> mark dolan tonight the home of diverse opinion. what is yours? gbnews.com/yoursay your say we've lost 16,500
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millionaires since 2017. i think thatis millionaires since 2017. i think that is a national crisis, and our next prime minister must deal with it. but next up in the big story on the eight year anniversary of referendum, will brexit survive the next government? we'll
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next. welcome back. lots to get through. >> but here is a simple question for you. is brexit going to survive the next government? let's talk about that in the big story . because today marks the story. because today marks the eight year anniversary of the brexit referendum. this weekend, business secretary kemi badenoch, tipped by many to be a future leader of the conservative party, says that labour will reverse brexit if it wins the general election. meanwhile, liberal democrats deputy leader daisy cooper said this today at some point, longer term and then obviously we'd want to see the uk return to the
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heart of europe. >> but we're very clear that in this election we can see that families are really, really struggling , families are really, really struggling, many families really on the brink. that's why we're campaigning so hard to save our nhs and social care and tackle the cost of living crisis. >> there you go. well, will we still have brexit in five years time? let's get the views of former lib dem adviser pablo ohana. pablo, lovely to have you on the show. how do you think labour are going to handle brexit if they win the election, as is predicted ? as is predicted? >> well, i was, i was slightly confused about kenny's comments because, labour has ruled out any form of meaningful relationship with the eu and their manifesto, so i'm not actually sure what she's referring to. >> they, they might not want to sort of destroy our standing on the global stage any further, but they've ruled out things like single market customs union rejoining, i think her attacks on the lib dems would be totally fair. but the labour party, i'm not. >> i'm not so sure the lib dems want us back in, but that's not going to happen under a labour
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government, is it? particularly if labour win a big majority, the lib dems will have no leverage whatsoever . leverage whatsoever. >> i can't see the labour party taking us back into any serious relationship with europe. i think without a really, really strong liberal democrat presence in parliament, i don't see how that happens. the liberal democrats have always been pro—european . they to be fair to pro—european. they to be fair to them. they have never made any bones about like that. they are very clear. they wanted a second referendum. they wanted to stop brexit. they are very, very honest and open about that. i think if there is a strong liberal democrat vote and a very strong liberal democrat presence in parliament, you will start to see that sort of nudging . and i see that sort of nudging. and i know, obviously the party, the liberal democrats want to return to the single market. i think there is a fair case for that. and they will i'm sure they will make that case to the labour party. if they win the next election. but i think if labour gets this kind of supermajority that everyone is now talking about, i don't think that that will happen. i think labour needs, i think it needs a strong liberal democrat presence to kind of push them forward on that agenda. >> well, pablo, i think that the
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lib dems have got plenty to say for themselves in policy . a lot for themselves in policy. a lot of it's quite compelling, but we don't want to go back into the eu, do we? given the fact that brexit has been a triumph . brexit has been a triumph. >> i mean, a triumph and certainly not the word i would use, it was interesting that there was a poll recently that showed that 63% of britons wanted to return to the single market, including conservative voters, actually. and obviously labour and lib dem voters, i really don't think that there is any measure in which brexit can be seen as a success. i mean, the fundamental kind of the central part of the campaign to leave was sort of controlling our borders and taking back control of our laws . our borders and taking back control of our laws. immigration has more than doubled since we left the eu , so i'm not sure. left the eu, so i'm not sure. indeed. >> but whoever becomes prime minister absolutely vie you're right. but that's a policy choice by the current government. but whoever becomes prime minister will have control
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over our borders, which wouldn't have happened under the previous, you know, membership of the eu. let's have a look at whether it's been a triumph. i mean, the uk at the moment, pablo is number one in the g7 for economic growth. and i think, harry, if you could grab that graph of growth since 2010, i think it's quite compelling. so let's have a look at this . so let's have a look at this. this is official ons statistics. the uk has grown faster than any other major european economy since 2010. you've got germany and france, spain and italy in blue. and look, there's the uk in red that looks pretty successful to me. what happened to that brexit disaster? >> i mean, there are lots of measures in which you can you can look at how brexit has performed . i think if you were performed. i think if you were to compare how the uk economy has performing since leaving the eu, over all we are doing worse. we are in fact the ons, as in the same place that you've got those figures from the government's own statistics are showing that brexit is costing us £1 million every single hour.
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and i find it really funny that right now, as you say, here we are. eighth anniversary of the referendum, you know, the labour party and tory party is are claiming old policies are going to cost this much. if labour get in, it's going to cost, 38 billion. as the tories get in, it's going to cost 46 billion. all these kind of figures, even throwing them around. the government has said that brexit is costing us 100 billion every single year. so all these around how much labour and tory policies are going to cost me nothing if we're. >> listen, i'm delighted to have you on the show and we'll have this conversation , in, you know, this conversation, in, you know, essentially trusting the figures that we're both sharing. i don't know where £1 million a day comes from, but this is a good faith interview, so i'll take your word for it. but i'm afraid the good news keeps rolling on because since brexit, the uk actually leapfrogged france to become number eight in the world for manufacturing and the uk has gone from number seven to number four in the world for exports again since brexit. i don't want to be a stuck record, but let's have a look at the international
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monetary fund who have made their per capita prediction for economic growth over the next five years. harry, do you have the slide? i've got more slides than robert peston. let me tell you. where is it? we're firing it up . but the bottom line is i it up. but the bottom line is i just don't think it stands up to scrutiny that brexit's been a disaster. there you go, pablo. imf gdp per capita growth projections uk number two, just behind america, ahead of japan , behind america, ahead of japan, france, germany, italy and canada . canada. >> but the i mean again this is this is one figure that you're pulling out. if you were to look well it's economic growth. >> it's the main figure isn't it. wasn't the main argument against brexit. the economy. >> it was one of them. i think there are multiple reasons why leaving the eu was a bad idea. i think the economy is one of them. that 100 billion figure, that £1 million every hour is in, is mostly in lost trade. but i think that there are there are wider and broader issues around brexit that are still affecting us. and i think there is also
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like a fundamental question that that that referendum plunged our country into a sort of a confusion about who we are as a country and our characters. and i like i'm a patriot. i love our country, really, but i do think that we have lost a sense of who we are and that, like our historic principles that have guided this country about being welcoming and tolerant have been lost. and there is a real there's a deep division in our country that started with that referendum and hasn't been resolved . and i think that it's resolved. and i think that it's there are lots of questions around lost trade and economy this and economy that. but there is also a really fundamental question about who we are as a country. and it worries me because i, i love that i love this country and yet it just doesn't feel doesn't feel like who we were historically, the kind of country that was , you kind of country that was, you know, there for everyone's hour of need. we've lost that and people feel unwelcome. and there is a division and a divide that i think is really worrying. and it and it feels right now irreparable. and that worries me
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i >> -- >> okay. well, look, pablo, we can end on a very positive note, which is that we have something really significant in common, which is that we both voted for remain. and i understand the points you're making about the cultural impacts on the country. i think it's very sad that british youngsters can't go off and get a job in italy or france or spain. i totally agree, i think a price has been paid . i think a price has been paid. i just don't see the brexit disaster. but it's been brilliant to have you on the show really quick one before you go. i've only got a couple of seconds, but do you think that eventually brexit will be reversed? do you anticipate the uk re—entering the european union in, let's say, the next two decades? >> two decades? yes, i think this is a real long term project . it is not going to happen in the next parliament, maybe even not in the next ten years, but certainly in my lifetime. i think it's inevitable because i think it's inevitable because i think we're only a small country and we work better when we're together, whether that's, you know, as you say, things like being able to travel and work freely across europe is a huge benefit that we've lost. and i
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think things like the lib dem policies take us back into the single market is a logical step to be like, okay, we're not going to rejoin tomorrow. we all know that no one is arguing or no one sensible is arguing for that, but something like the single market where we can start to get those benefits back, i think is a logical next step. >> pablo ohana, do join us again in the near future. it's been a fascinating conversation. my thanks to former lib dem advisor pablo ohana. let's get reaction now from yosef david claire pearsall and nigel nelson. yosef what brexit disaster, i have to say, watching that interview, that was incredible. it's been eight years and they still don't get it, what we're all doing is making the problem. the mistake of david cameron, which is to frame this in terms of the economy . it's not about the economy. it's not about the economy, it's about our society. it's about our sovereignty. it's about identity. these are the things that people voted for. and so brexit has been an outstanding success because we've managed to leave the european union. >> we've left without any noticeable damage. >> yes, indeed. i mean, there's always going to be turbulence. correct. >> and i've got viewers and
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listeners who have struggling to export goods. small and medium sized businesses have been through hell . there is more red tape. >> at what cost? freedom. though we are a nation in our own respect, we can leave forge our relationships with the rest of the world. it's a fantastic opportunity. there has not been a disaster. >> nigel. i voted remain in 2016. i've spent the rest of the time right, spend the rest of the time being a cheerleader for the time being a cheerleader for the project because actually we're out and i don't see a catastrophic consequence. i mean , you could argue that we've not had the brexit benefits, but economic growth is solid. you know, we've got we're safe. we're never going to have the euro single european army. we're not paying £20 billion a month for membership. sounds like a win to me . win to me. >> well, i mean brexit hasn't been a disaster. i would agree with you. no, it's not been a success.i with you. no, it's not been a success. i mean, claire and joseph, they voted for brexit because they wanted sovereignty. they wanted to take back control, in which case you got what you wanted , if you if what you wanted, if you if you're happy with the price that had to be paid. so increased food bills. so an example , food
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food bills. so an example, food has gone up 25% since 2019. 8% of that is to do with brexit. all right. >> here we go. let's get the graph. harry, this . now listen, graph. harry, this. now listen, ihave graph. harry, this. now listen, i have got, official statistics here on the cost of food. food inflation. and here it comes. and this is if you lose the strap. there you go. thank you so much. from 2016, right through until 2023. and you'll see, this is cpi food and non—alcoholic beverage prices , non—alcoholic beverage prices, the eu 27 is the blue line. the euro area. the eurozone is orange. and the uk at the bottom there in green. put that in your pipe there in green. put that in your pipe and smoke it. >> nigel nelson my point was within that figure i've got more graphs. maybe use this 8. 8% of that figure is down to brexit andifs that figure is down to brexit and it's lower than the eurozone. about the about the extra paperwork . but it extra paperwork. but it shouldn't be there in the first place. that's that means every family is spending £250 more than they need to. >> fair enough . listen, i've got
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>> fair enough. listen, i've got to say half my audience will agree with nigel and a lot of people are still angry about brexit. claire. and you've got to accept that. >> they may well be angry about it, but eight years on, we have brexit. now you can take a view as to whether you think it is successful or not. and it depends why you voted for brexit in the first place. and because you have a binary choice with a referendum, you have to say yes or no. you don't get to vote on what the government does with it. you have to accept that things aren't going to be perfect and they're not going to be smooth. but just take exception to your food point. do you know the reason why food costs have increased across the world? that is because there has been there have been wars going on.the been there have been wars going on. the price of fertiliser is enormous. >> i accept all that. >> i accept all that. >> ukraine, ukraine is the bread basket of europe. >> absolutely, yes. and also your favourite subject of climate change does come into it. when you look at flooded fields within that figure, within that figure on brexit. >> no, but within not the entire 25. but within that figure is the 8, which is brexit. >> no, we shouldn't we shouldn't
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gaslight . gaslight. >> we shouldn't gaslight. nigel. there is a percentage. it's fair to say that some of that cost of food is related to essentially frictions in the flow of , of frictions in the flow of, of goods, right. >> at £145 per consignment of cheese , fish and meat that they cheese, fish and meat that they have to pay. now, they didn't have to pay. now, they didn't have to pay before brexit. that will also put prices yourself. >> last word. >> last word. >> what about our society? the last guest mentioned historic principles have been forfeited. they have not. they have been abused. we are a very welcoming country. our society is being impacted by all the causes of federalism, globalisation, whatever you want to call it. we need localism. we need to get back to what makes our country great and what the people in our country need. >> now there you go. i'll tell you what, joseph david for prime minister, next up, as he turns 80, thomas markle doesn't get so much as a text message from his world famous daughter meghan. and as he prepares for a tv showdown with joe biden, donald trump gets a big financial boost and declares that his rambling speeches are a sign of genius. well, donald and i have got that
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next. as he turns 80 next month, thomas markle gives a moving interview to the mail newspaper, saying . i've never been one for saying. i've never been one for birthdays, but i know the one person i most want to hear from meghan will not be in touch. i'd love to meet my grandchildren, he said. but i'd be happy with a photograph at this stage . mr photograph at this stage. mr markle became estranged from his youngest daughter, meghan , youngest daughter, meghan, duchess of sussex, in 2018 when he was unable to walk her down the aisle for her marriage to prince harry after he suffered two heart attacks on the eve of their wedding. the couple have not spoken to him since. mr markle has never met his grandchildren archie and lilibet. speaking from his home
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in rosarito, mexico, just 250 miles from the sussexes, 16 bathroom home in montecito, california , he remains puzzled california, he remains puzzled that he's never met his son in law, asking the paper why didn't harry ever come to meet me ? harry ever come to meet me? well, for reaction to this sad story, i'm delighted to welcome us political and royal commentator hilary fordwich . commentator hilary fordwich. hilary, excellent to see you again. your reaction to this very sad story. >> well, you're absolutely right, mark. pleasure to be back with you. it is a frightfully sad story. he also added that he never thought that he'd have something in common with the king. and of course, the king doesn't know his grandchildren ehhen doesn't know his grandchildren either. and i think that's a very sad state of affairs. what is very important, the important thread here, though, is the hypocrisy. the hypocrisy of meghan markle claiming to care about people and all the tours they go on where they have empathy for people. and yet her very own father and also mark,
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it really happens so fast. in 2016, she posted on instagram that her daddy was the greatest in the world. and the other thing is that she claimed that she had made everything herself and she came from a very poor family. actually. she had a very privilege aged childhood, being sent to private schools in california and of course, her father, he was the one who set her off on her career in hollywood. it wasn't all done by herself , hollywood. it wasn't all done by herself, most hollywood. it wasn't all done by herself , most definitely. herself, most definitely. >> now the sussexes are all about pr , aren't they? and this about pr, aren't they? and this is not good for their brands. thomas markle poor old thomas markle as he approaches his 80th birthday, is a serious thorn in the side and frankly , an ongoing the side and frankly, an ongoing embarrassment to the couple. >> yes , and i think that one of >> yes, and i think that one of the things that's immensely sad is that you know, meghan markle wasn't happy to be number two to princess catherine, and now she ends up being really nothing because dog biscuits and jam really don't . rank comes to really don't. rank comes to being a relation to the royal family. so instead of being
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number two to go from number two to nothing, and also of the greatest sadness is that i think that and i've said this before, but most importantly that prince harry squandered the love and actually the empathy of a nation. and at this time, yes, her father is experiencing the same thing as the king. and last but not least, i do think that a tiger doesn't change its stripes. what we have to look at here is track record. somebody who's dumped her friends, dumped her own family , dumped her her own family, dumped her country originally when she came over to the uk, and even her adopted dog. there is a track record there and thomas markle has sadly said it's referred to now as being markle. when you're dumped , however, there's two dumped, however, there's two sides to every story, especially in families , aren't there hilary? >> and are there not allegations that thomas markle might have leaked some of meghan markle's private correspondence? and of course, there was that embarrassing scene in an internet cafe in mexico where it looked like he was posing for
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photographs prior to their wedding, heaping embarrassment on the couple. >> yes, and actually, he was purportedly paid for those paparazzi photographs that you're referring to prior to their wedding. i do think from things that i've heard from other people, though, he was duped and certainly her sister samantha says that he was duped into doing that. and also at the time , he didn't realise how time, he didn't realise how hurtful it would be. but again, mark, what about hypocrisy? is it if it's so bad to throw your family under the royal bus, then why do it yourselves? that's what harry's been doing and that's what meghan markle have been doing. so i didn't think they thought that was so bad. actually >> indeed. of course, donald trump has had a challenging couple of months , but a good couple of months, but a good week, hasn't he? hilary fordwich first of all, he's received a single donation of $50 million, which is quite remarkable. the money is pouring into the coffers. you've got leading political and business figures who are getting behind his campaign and of course he faces joe biden this week in a major tv leaders debate. do you think
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things are on the up for donald trump? >> well, actually, yes. mark the reason that those donations have flooded in are a couple of things. number one, soon after his subpoenas and after the verdict, they actually rocketed. i think it's because there were a lot of americans were disgusted with the unfair judicial system and basically figged judicial system and basically rigged judicial, judicial system here in the united states. that actually was a lot of donors. but also importantly, he has actually gone into places, mark, that no republican has been since ronald reagan, donald trump has now been into california. he went to a bodega in the bronx in new york city. he's been into neighbourhoods that are predominantly ethnic and black neighbourhoods, poor neighbourhoods that have been taken for, taken for granted for years by the democrats. and what he's doing is something like i said, reagan hasn't. no one's doneit said, reagan hasn't. no one's done it since reagan. and it's that community. most of these donations, over 75% of the donations, over 75% of the donations mark, are under $50. and they're new donations. that
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is huge. a vast swath of america that hasn't voted for a republican is now are now going to vote for republican . to vote for republican. >> hillary, always a thrill to have you on the show. we'll catch up soon. my thanks there to us political and royal commentator hilary fordwich. fascinating debate. i tell you what, i'd like to be a fly on the wall for those tv debates . the wall for those tv debates. trump versus biden this week. but coming up is university a waste of time and money for millions of young brits when they could do practical training? instead, i'll be asking my mark meets guest, minister for skills and apprenticeships robert halfon. that's
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next. coming up in a take a ten special with wimbledon around the corner, there's one noticeable absentee. the treatment of sue barker, unceremoniously dumped by the beebis unceremoniously dumped by the beeb is a national disgrace. thatis beeb is a national disgrace. that is my take. at 10 in 15
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minutes time, i guarantee you won't want to miss it. you also won't want to miss it. you also won't want to miss it. you also won't want to miss this. yes, it's won't want to miss this. yes, wsfime won't want to miss this. yes, it's time for mark meets in this evening. former conservative mp robert halfon , who was in the robert halfon, who was in the house of commons from 2010 to 2024. he's now a man of leisure . 2024. he's now a man of leisure. he served in the cabinet under david cameron, was a minister under theresa may and was appointed minister of state for skills , apprenticeships and skills, apprenticeships and higher education by prime minister rishi sunak. robert, lovely to see you. >> lovely to be here just to qualify. >> one thing i'm not pleased, a man of leisure because i am out all the time. >> you're campaigning campaign for the brilliant. >> i know we can't mention the name, but the brilliant local candidate, conservative parliamentary candidate who used to work with me in my office, she's from harlow and so i'm working with her just to try and make sure she gets elected. >> well that's good. you see what we can do the way the rules work, if we say one name, we've got to say all the names, right. and then i don't get to talk to
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you. i know i'd much rather ask you. i know i'd much rather ask you about your life and your career, which has been a stellar one.thank career, which has been a stellar one. thank you. first of all, you were deputy party chairman in 2015 when david cameron was prime minister at the tail end of that, that era. have you known the party in a worse state than it currently is? >> i when david cameron was leader, he was very, very political to his fingertips and he understood the conservative party and central office was a really professional machine and it won. we don't forget we won the 2015 election against the odds. after all the years of the austerity cuts and so on, which everyone said we were going to lose. i don't think clearly central office is in a good place as it was in those days, and whatever happens at the election, whatever happens, i absolutely believe that they need to start from ground zero and create a new cchq from the ground upwards that, is much more democratic for its members. but also, you know , offers but also, you know, offers professional services because when you join, you just get messages, can have some more
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money, can have some more money, you know, asking for donations all the time. you should get membership services in many ways, the conservative party should be joined. the conservative party should be like joining a trade union. i don't mean going on strikes, but when you join a trade union, you get membership services, private health insurance, you get discounts on loans , you get discounts on loans, you get fuel, duty, fuel, cards and things like that. that's what you know. people join the conservative party. that's what they should have do and also participate in political activities. of course , which is activities. of course, which is the most important. so there has to be change. and the gambling thing, of course, with senior people at cchq is really depressing. i'll tell you why. it's depressing because i mentioned the conservative parliamentary candidate, but she's got a chance of being mp. but the people who are working for her, the volunteers, they're out till midnight, you know, they were out till midnight laughing envelopes, aslef envelopes, leafleting in very, very hot weather day in, day out. and when all this sort of thing goes on, it's heartbreaking because they don't get paid. you know, there's thousands and thousands of volunteers trying to elect
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conservative mps in the country, and they feel let down. and that is really sad. >> what would you say to previous conservative voters watching and listening to this programme , who feel that the programme, who feel that the tory party isn't conservative anymore , and that's why they're anymore, and that's why they're looking at reform? >> i'd say to them , don't let >> i'd say to them, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, because the reality is that it will let in labour. if you vote for reform, it will let in labour. and then we have a labour supermajority with, you know, everything that no reform voter would want, want to happen. open doors on immigration, high taxes, raiding our pension funds, you know, spending money on quangos . now, spending money on quangos. now, i believe actually the government have done some good things. we've got some amongst the highest growth rate in europe and actually it's anniversary of brexit. so we've got high employment. we've created over 5 million apprenticeships in 2020 ten. we've got the best readers in our group of kids in the western
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world. you know, there's some there are of course, things have gone wrong . and of course not gone wrong. and of course not everything is the way people would like it to be. but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good and just, you know, for a moment's anger in the polling booth, all you're going to do is let labour in and then they'll be able to do what they want. okay. >> i mean, you mentioned open borders. labour are clear that they're going to reduce immigration. they think it's too high. it's got high under the tories and they will stop the boats. but of course you're entitled to your view. you're in campaigning mode, you were the political director of the conservative friends of israel. clearly. october 7 was a devastating nightmare for that country. the greatest single attack on jewish people since the holocaust. however what is your appraisal of israel's response since? have they gone too far ? too far? >> i think it's tragic what's gone on. of course, innocent lives have been lost. but let's remember this was the biggest massacre of jews since the holocaust. and hamas are no different to the nazis . they different to the nazis. they actually say they want to eradicate jews. you know , i've
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eradicate jews. you know, i've been to meet the hostages families when i was in parliament. i've seen the films, you know, there's an awful sexual mutilation of the victims of the massacres of october 7th. israel has to get rid of hamas. if israel doesn't get rid of hamas and hezbollah by the way, in the north, all supported by iran , then all that happens is iran, then all that happens is that you knock a bit of it away and then it comes back, and then they'll do another massacre in six months, a year's time, god forbid. so of course, it's awful to see what's going on. but when hamas hides in schools, when it hides in hospitals, when it hides in hospitals, when it hides in hospitals, when it hides in the tunnels that are bigger than the new york metro . bigger than the new york metro. so what else are they supposed to do? you know, if and when he doesn't put civilians in those tunnels and. well, exactly. and but they put they put the missiles in the schools where the civilians are . and don't the civilians are. and don't forget, what people do is often not reported is that every day missiles are being fired on to israel, both from the north. >> and here's a question for you, though. in a historic context, is hamas a symptom and a by—product of israel's actions
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over decades? absolutely not. >> i mean, israel is a free democracy. you have arab mps, you have arab judges, you have, everybody walks around freely with gaza being an open prison apart from gaza. the israelis left it years and years ago. and don't forget, there is an open border with egypt , gaza. egypt border with egypt, gaza. egypt could open the border with gaza . could open the border with gaza. no, the israelis withdrew from gaza. many, many years ago, many, many years ago. and so this idea that it's a prison when they've left it and they were allowed to govern themselves and all that they've doneis themselves and all that they've done is turn it into a terrorist enclave, run by hamas, funded by iran. >> i've got two more before you go. and of course, i look forward to your return. you've been doing lots on gb news and i hope that continues . and you had hope that continues. and you had some health issues when you were a child, i think a mild form of cystic fibrosis. >> no, no, no, it's, so cerebral palsy. >> forgive me, forgive me. forgive. i have a version of that completely different disease, cerebral palsy. and, i know you have never allowed that to define you, and it hasn't defined you, but how has it has
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it impacted your career and your life? >> well, in my younger years, it was , you know, i was always told was, you know, i was always told i wasn't going to be able to walk and, my father, he showed me letters that doctors wrote to him at the time saying i wouldn't be able to do anything and i should go to special school. >> so you were written off as a child, really? >> but that was my father didn't write me off, so he took me to this amazing professor in great ormond street hospital who said, absolute nonsense. he could sort me out . and so from the age of me out. and so from the age of seven, right up to adult life, had one operation after the other. i have said this recently, but you won't know this. nadine dorries was once a nurse , the former mp. yeah, in a nurse, the former mp. yeah, in a hospital i was in. is that right? many as a child. yeah. and she remembers it. and so we joke that it was more the plot than the plot from the book, her book. but, so and i became an mp and a government minister, you know , so it just shows what you know, so it just shows what you can do. i've never felt myself to be disabled , by the way. to be disabled, by the way. i felt my legs being a bit messed up, but i'd been given many
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other things that i'm very lucky. well i've got 70 copies of doing breakfast, julia hartley—brewer on talk radio with you, and now you'll be doing loads on gb news and look forward to seeing what you do next. >> but next up, the bbc's treatment of wimbledon star sue barker is a disgrace. that's my take at ten. next >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. a warmer night tonight compared with much of summer so far, and then a mostly fine start to the new week with a ridge of high pressure extending across the uk. now there is a weak front approaching the far northwest that's thickening up the cloud, freshening up the breeze across western scotland, northern ireland overnight with some patchy cloud arriving and also some patchy outbreaks of light rain and drizzle , and clear
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gb news. >> good evening. it's 10:00. gb news. >> good evening. it's10:00. on television. on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight . with wimbledon around tonight. with wimbledon around the corner, there's one noticeable absentee. the
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treatment of sue barker. unceremoniously dumped by the bbc, is a national disgrace . bbc, is a national disgrace. after an extraordinary intervention from former prime minister boris johnson. has nigel farage lost the plot over his ukraine comments, or is he being punished for telling the truth? i'll be asking politics legend edwina currie in the last word. a labour mps office is vandalised with the word genocide sprayed on the walls. meanwhile, a group called the muslim vote make a dark threat to labour by promising a 25 year war which will, quote, not be pretty for the party in a. since deleted tweet is dangerous. sectarian politics here to stay? i'll be asking the government's former anti—muslim hate tsar. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages, a packed show , lots to pages, a packed show, lots to get through, folks. but first, the news headlines and ray addison .
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addison. >> thanks, mark. good evening. our top stories tonight. labour is calling on the gambling commission to name candidates being investigated over the election date. betting scandal. pat mcfadden, labour's shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, has written to the commission ceo urging for the details to be released before polling day. it comes amid reports that the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason, has taken a leave of absence. the tories director of campaigns , tony leigh and his campaigns, tony leigh and his wife laura saunders, are also being probed , as is the pm's being probed, as is the pm's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to a, quote, error of judgement . to a, quote, error of judgement. what will the labour leader has suggested that benefits offer less dignity to people than earning a living through employment. sir keir starmer took aim at handouts from the state in a piece for the sunday telegraph , he said serving the telegraph, he said serving the interests of working people means under standing that they want success more than state support . his comments come as
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support. his comments come as the latest savanta poll shows labour on 42% of the vote and the conservatives on just 19 flights restarted earlier at manchester airport after a quarter were cancelled today due to a power outage . earlier on, to a power outage. earlier on, all flights from terminals one and two were cancelled, with passengers being advised not to come to the airport after a major power cut caused huge queues and disruption to baggage processing work is now underway to reschedule those flights in the coming days , and tomorrow's the coming days, and tomorrow's flights are not thought to be affected as the search for jay slater continues in tenerife, a fundraiser set up by the last person to see him has now passed its £30,000 target search teams attempting to locate the british teenager narrowed their efforts to small buildings close to where his phone last pinged in tenerife. chase later went missing on monday after he attended a music festival on the spanish island just before he vanished. the 19 year old called
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a friend saying he was lost and needed water to more than six police officers, an orthodox priest and four gunmen have been killed in a series of shootings in dagestan , russian media in dagestan, russian media reports. the region's interior ministry has been quoted as saying that 12 other police officers have also been injured after the gunman opened fire at after the gunman opened fire at a synagogue , an orthodox church a synagogue, an orthodox church and a police post in the north caucasus region. both the synagogue and the church are said to be ablaze. there have also been reports and eyewitness videos showing people wearing dark clothing, shooting at emergency service vehicles responding in makhachkala in southern russia . well, sadly, southern russia. well, sadly, scotland have lost one nil to hungary this evening in their final group, a game of the euros football tournament fans had arrived in jubilant mood earlier at the mhp arena in stuttgart . at the mhp arena in stuttgart. the clash could have seen scotland reach the knockout stage of a major tournament for the first time. critics, however, hadn't given the
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injury, hit scots much of a hope after their five one opening loss to host germany in munich . loss to host germany in munich. however, a one all draw with the swiss had placed them within reach of qualification. tonight's loss will be seen as a devastating blow to the tartan army . well, for the latest army. well, for the latest stories, why not sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts. back now to . mark. >> thank you ray. welcome to mark dolan tonight. >> thank you ray. welcome to mark dolan tonight . after an mark dolan tonight. after an extraordinary intervention from former prime minister boris johnson, has nigel farage lost the plot over his ukraine comments, or is he being punished for simply telling the truth? are we asking politics legend edwina currie also tonight, in the last word, a labour mps office is vandalised with the word genocide sprayed on the walls. meanwhile a group called the muslim vote make a dark threat to labour by
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promising a 25 year war which will, quote, not be pretty for the party in a. since deleted tweet is dangerous. sectarian politics here to stay? i'll be asking the government's former anti—muslim hate tsar also tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits this evening, joseph david claire pearsall and nigel nelson , a pearsall and nigel nelson, a packed out. those papers are coming and widdecombe is away this week. i think she's having work done. but edwina is waiting in the wings. we start with my take at ten. the brilliant american author maya angelou had a wonderful saying. people will forget what you did and what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel . which how you made them feel. which takes me to the appalling treatment by the bbc of sports
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broadcaster and former tennis champ sue barker. national treasure status gets flung around rather casually these days, but sue barker really is a great britain as a tennis player. she actually hit number three in the world, and she won the french open in 1976. after retirement, she featured in the gossip columns, particularly when she began a relationship with pop superstar and fellow tennis fan cliff richard . but tennis fan cliff richard. but romance with cliff richard was to be short lived when she declared new balls, please . declared new balls, please. having hung up her tennis racket, she picked up the microphone and became an incredibly successful and popular tv broadcaster and to my mind, the best presenter in the history of wimbledon. she was wimbledon and wimbledon was her. but it doesn't stop there because her time hosting a question of sport marks her out as one of the most successful entertainment broadcasters in
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the history of british television . do you know how long television. do you know how long she presented question of sport ? she presented question of sport? for 24 years, a quarter of a century. it was a show in which she had to control some very big and noisy egos, including ally mccoist , phil tufnell and matt mccoist, phil tufnell and matt dawson, and she gave as good as she got. her return game was the best. so with all of that success, as well as hosting the olympics, the commonwealth games and the grand national, you'd assume that the bbc had her locked into a golden handcuffs deal for life, similar to the one that i've got with gb news. not so much. sue barker ended her wimbledon duties in 2022 because she was worried that the bbc would try to slowly phase her out . bbc would try to slowly phase her out. imagine that bbc would try to slowly phase her out . imagine that they all her out. imagine that they all worried that they would diminish her role. although she's put a brave face on her treatment by the bbc, she's confessed that confessed that losing the wimbledon gig came a couple of
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years before she was ready to 90, years before she was ready to go, but she lived in fear of carrying on, only for bbc bosses to be having meetings behind her back about who would replace her. can you imagine putting this amazing woman through that turmoil ? does the bbc have turmoil? does the bbc have a culture of ageism? i'm not sure. but ask the brilliant vanessa feltz, good friend of mine, who said that you basically become invisible at the beeb once you turn 60. why don't you ask? dumped countryfile star miriam o'reilly, who successfully sued the corporation for age discrimination. why don't you ask arlene phillips, who was sacked from strictly at the tender age of 66, which is 166, in bbc years ? why don't you ask in bbc years? why don't you ask ken bruce, the host of the biggest radio show in europe, on half the salary of his younger colleague zoe ball, who had a smaller audience ? ken bruce left smaller audience? ken bruce left radio two last year to join a
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commercial rival. make it make sense. i suppose dusty old ken bruce didn't tick any boxes, did he? just like radio legend steve wright, who friends say died of a broken heart after his smash hit radio two show in the afternoon was also cancelled ? afternoon was also cancelled? and as for question of sport, after 24 years on air and regularly achieving 4 to 5 million viewers a week with an entertaining show that all the family could watch, you guessed it , sue barker family could watch, you guessed it, sue barker was family could watch, you guessed it , sue barker was axed family could watch, you guessed it, sue barker was axed in her autobiography, calling the shots, barker said that she and her team captains had felt devastated after being called into separate meetings by bbc management in the summer of 2020, and then discovered that they were being fired. separate meetings. the bbc upset her further with their handling of the announcement. they wanted her, dawson and tufnell to sign a statement saying that they had all volunteer decided to step
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away . she says in the book it away. she says in the book it was insulting. did they actually expect me to sack myself and show myself no respect at all? sue was replaced by fashionable younger comedian paddy mcguinness and two team captains in sam quek and ugo monye, who, i've got to confess, i've never heard of . well, the show lost heard of. well, the show lost 75% of its audience and was ultimately scrapped. well done everyone. hilariously, the bbc blamed the economic environment and inflation. i'd like to run that through bbc verify if you don't mind , as we prepare for don't mind, as we prepare for another wimbledon . the bbc's another wimbledon. the bbc's coverage certainly hasn't got the gravitas in the absence of sue barker on my watch, she would still have top billing. she would be the main anchor. i know about this stuff . i'm a big know about this stuff. i'm a big anchor myself. the bbc's treatment of sue barker speaks volumes about our national state broadcaster and its attitude to older talent, and potentially to
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the older viewers who watch who. amid the bbc push for youth and diversity, wouldn't mind a bit of representing action too. sue barker gave the bbc a great service game, but their back handed treatment of this tennis ace is a scandal in straight sets and with its eye—watering, eye wateringly high licence fee . eye wateringly high licence fee. that's right, licence fee now. okay, £159 a year. the bbc is starting to look like an expensive racket in its own right . £159. wow your right. £159. wow your reaction gbnews.com/yoursay. let's get response now from my top pundits. we have former government adviser claire pearsall. we have gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and former brexit party candidate and social worker joseph david. let me start with you, claire. do you think that i'm being a little harsh on the
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bbc? after all, it's their job to make sure fresh talent comes through. >> i don't think there's anything wrong with fresh talent coming through, but when you look at what sue barker achieved and how good she was at wimbledon , she was the voice of wimbledon, she was the voice of wimbledon. and when you've got all of that experience, why let somebody walk away ? it is somebody walk away? it is absolutely ridiculous. when you saw her on the side of centre court interviewing the players, she got so much more out of them because she had that almost motherly style , but would come motherly style, but would come in with some real killer questions that you didn't see coming. it was all done so nicely. she was absolutely superb and i think it's a real shame. i loved listening to her. i learnt so much about tennis. i'm not great at tennis myself and i learnt a lot about the game. i learned a lot about the individuals involved in it and it just made it so much more worthwhile to have her there, and i think it's a real shame. yes, bring up the younger talent , but don't lose the experience you've got. >> yes, my concern, joseph, is why the bbc are letting go of
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talent that are clearly delivering. question of sport. 5 million viewers a week goes down to a million viewers and gets scrapped. ken bruce biggest radio show in europe, not just the uk , goes to a commercial the uk, goes to a commercial rival. there's a trend here, isn't there? >> there's an unfortunate obsession with chasing youthful , obsession with chasing youthful, viewing viewership and what the bbc have done is they've hamstrung, hamstrung themselves by getting rid of a genuine talent, someone who really knew about tennis had a genuine love for the game and what we saw last year was, quite frankly, amatures trying to fill her shoes and it was impossible. what really grates us, i think , what really grates us, i think, as the british public, is that we want to live in a society where if you're doing the job well, why should you be scrapped ? and i think there isn't really logic in this. ? and i think there isn't really logic in this . it seems to be logic in this. it seems to be almost political. >> yes. now, to be fair to the bbc, nigel, she was axed from question of sport, which is mind blowing. she was offered a new contract on for wimbledon i think three years, but she said
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that she knew the moment she started that contract there would be meetings going on behind her back about who's replacing and she genuinely thought that her role would be diminished. >> yes, and, and had she taken the contract, she would be, broadcasting this year, this year at wimbledon and with clare balding hovering in the background. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i think i agree with clare that she, she was the voice of wimbledon. she should have been doing it. voice of wimbledon. she should have been doing it . we all know have been doing it. we all know about television that there's always someone younger , prettier always someone younger, prettier and wittier around the corner, which is why everybody works in it feels that so insecure. but the but experience counts for an awful lot, her age certainly didn't matter. she was the right person to be doing that job. >> definitely. i mean, let me have a think about this. diana moran is a regular pundit on mark dolan tonight. she's the green goddess. of course, from from the bbc and all the rest of it. she's 85. i think she gets better with age. i'm tempted to commit on this program to employ diana moran for as long as she wants. if she's got a gig for life on this program. good. and
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i think, you know that we just need.i i think, you know that we just need. i think in our society, nigel, we need to celebrate older people and look, i obviously believe in diversity, and i believe in bringing in fresh talent. otherwise we all wouldn't have careers. but i've got older viewers and listeners watching and listening to this program in their 70s, in their 80s, maybe in their 90s, and they'd quite like to see some old people on telly as well, to represent them. >> well, i'm all in favour of that as being an older worker myself, so. >> well, i know you're 58 now. >> well, i know you're 58 now. >> absolutely, yes , indeed. >> absolutely, yes, indeed. >> absolutely, yes, indeed. >> but but that's important that. do you feel like britain can be a bit ageist? >> yes, it's very definitely ageist . and the serious point is ageist. and the serious point is that they're trying to put pensions up for pension age up. yet companies are getting rid of people at 60. what is going to happen at that gap in the middle. yeah. >> most definitely. well, let me tell you that when sue barker stood down from her role as the face of wimbledon, the bbc said they would dearly have loved for her to continue . but you know her to continue. but you know the context to that. so let me know your thoughts, your
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reaction, gbnews.com/yoursay okay, now next up, looking forward to this. after an extraordinary intervention from former prime minister boris johnson, has nigel farage lost the plot over his ukraine comments, or is he being punished for simply telling the truth? i'll be asking. politics legend edwina currie
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next. well. in a growing row surrounding the comments of nigel farage and russia's motivation for invading ukraine. former prime minister boris johnson has hit back. he posted this on on twitter this evening. the former prime minister raged this is nauseating. a historical drivel and more kremlin propaganda. nobody provoked putin, says boris johnson. nobody poked the bear with a stick . the people of ukraine stick. the people of ukraine voted overwhelmingly in 1991 to be a sovereign and independent country . they were perfectly
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country. they were perfectly entitled to seek both nato and eu membership . there's only one eu membership. there's only one person responsible, says boris johnson. for russian aggression against ukraine, both in 2014 and 2022. and that is vladimir putin, the former prime minister goes on to say, to try to spread the blame is morally repugnant and parroting putin's lies. it's bizarre that the author should also suggest we now reduce our support for ukraine when the solution to the conflict is, in fact clear. the ukrainians need to win and to repel putin's invasion. they can and they will. the problem in the last 30 years has not been western provocation, but western weakness in the face of russian aggression , a weakness aggression, a weakness exemplified by this article . of exemplified by this article. of course, boris johnson. they're referring to nigel farage's remarks. now nigel has said that potentially russia was motivated to invade ukraine because of an ever expanding nato and eu. well, let's get the views of
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former government minister and broadcaster edwina currie. edwina, your reaction, first of all, to what nigel farage had to say , is he being punished for say, is he being punished for telling the truth? are we killing the messenger here? >> no, my reaction was total dismay. i have a ukrainian family staying with me. they've been here for over two years. they are currently actually in ukraine because their dad's been called up, there is a terrible war going on there and it's an existential war. and it was caused by putin doing a land grab. and that's something in this country we should understand really, really well. i mean, it's only a couple of weeks since d—day . we understand weeks since d—day. we understand what a land grab is when it's done by a crazy dictator and mad, power driven mega maniac. and we know that sooner or later, the wise countries of the world, the free countries of the world, the free countries of the world, have got to oppose that and destroy them . we have no and destroy them. we have no choice about this. otherwise we are threatened as well . our
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are threatened as well. our closest allies and many countries that are in nato and have been for many years, like poland, they understand this and they're very much on the front line, and they're very much supporting ukraine. and i think that having boris johnson jump into this is about time, about time. and i'm delighted that he has he's expressed it extremely well. he was a great on ukraine when he was prime minister, and he's great on ukraine now and he's great on ukraine now and he's absolutely right. nigel farage, however articulate he is and however punchy the things he says, he's totally wrong . he's says, he's totally wrong. he's just become a spokesman for putin, which is really not desirable in somebody who wants to be a leader in the free west. >> now , edwina, i would suggest >> now, edwina, i would suggest that's an unfounded allegation that's an unfounded allegation that you've made there against against, nigel farage. writing in yesterday's telegraph, he points out that he's had this position for many years. he's predicted this invasion. he said, all of this doesn't change
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the fact that i saw this coming a decade ago. i warned that it was coming. and i'm one of the few political figures who's been consistently right and honest about russia's ukraine war. what i've been saying for the last ten years is that the west has played into putin's hands, giving him the excuse to do what he wanted to do. anyway. nigel farage has been very clear in his condemnation of vladimir putin and the invasion. >> no, he hasn't been very clear. he's making excuses for it and he's blaming the west, he is very much playing into putin's hands. he's playing putin's hands. he's playing putin's game. and the fact that he's been doing it for a very long time, doesn't actually make things better. it makes things worse. and apart from anything else, let's remember that, if, farage has indeed been talking about this for ten years, it was eight years ago that putin did his first invasion when the family that i'm hosting first had to flee with a five year old and a baby in arms, that's the
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experience of the ukrainians when, when they lived in the donbas or in, the luhansk region, way over in the east. you can imagine what it would be like, mark, if, newcastle on tyne or, doncaster or all the area in the north—east of the country were invaded , and then country were invaded, and then there was somebody in this country saying, oh, it's all our fault. it's all our fault. >> yeah. i'm not sure anyone rubbish . yeah. i mean, you'd be rubbish. yeah. i mean, you'd be unwise to enter newcastle unarmed. i've got to say. let me offer you a quote, further quote from nigel farage, given that you've been very , very critical, you've been very, very critical, edwina, of course you're entitled to your view , but entitled to your view, but here's a quote vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine was immoral, outrageous and indefensible . i'm outrageous and indefensible. i'm no apologist or supporter of putin. and he goes on to say, back in 2014, when the eu first offered ukraine an accession agreement, farage said in a speech in the european parliament that there will be a war in ukraine, why? because the
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expansion of nato and the european union was giving putin a pretext that he would not ignore. so farages argument is that what the west have done is offered vladimir putin that opportunity that political opportunity that political opportunity to take this aggressive action. >> oh, no, it's the other way around, nato is a defensive operation. it always has been. a defensive operation. and what nigel farage or any of putin's friends should have been saying to him was, listen, all you have to him was, listen, all you have to do is be friends with the west. you know, you've tried that, you've tried that in the past and 2005 and thereabouts and it seemed to go extremely well. and we all had very good relations with the russians, and we were very pleased to have them buying posh flats in london and sending their kids to posh schools , we had good schools, we had good relationships with them and we were pleased to see that they seemed to be coming a much more modern country, what went wrong? goodness. only knows. putin has
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always had the same kind of mindset . i always had the same kind of mindset. i mean, he was the head of the kgb in east germany and i suspect what he's really aggrieved about is that east germany reunified, what is it, over 30 years ago? and he really wants his bit of countryside back.i wants his bit of countryside back. i mean, he's nuts , he's back. i mean, he's nuts, he's nuts, and no leader should ever make any attempt to defend what he's doing. no leader in the west and farage is right when he says it's indefensible. so don't defend it. don't defend it. you should be defending your own country and our own values, especially if you're really talking about becoming conservative, becoming an mp and leading the conservative party in future. >> freudian slip there, there you go. listen, edwina , what you go. listen, edwina, what a treat to have you with us on a sunday night. really enjoyed our conversation. we'll catch up soon. my thanks to former conservative government minister edwina currie, who has no truck with nigel farage's comments about ukraine. what do you think? gbnews.com/yoursay your say? i've been very bad on messages so far tonight. we'll get to them at 1030. but next
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up, tomorrow's front pages . and up, tomorrow's front pages. and let me tell you full pundit reaction and is dangerous sectarian politics here to stay an mps office vandalised and a terrifying message on twitter about a year war against laboun year war against labour. find out more after
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it's exactly 1030. a bit of housekeeping for you. first of all, this is our last show from the westminster studio. we'll be back in our fancy central london location. as of next weekend. and martin daubney is away on tuesday from three till 6 pm. and i'll be looking after the show. so do join me on tuesday from three till 6 pm. in the afternoon, when i'll be doing some grown up telly. makes a change. okay folks, time for this . daily change. okay folks, time for this. daily mail ten days left to stop disaster of a starmer supermajority i newspaper tories
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questioned sunak's leadership as he resists calls to suspend betting scandal. suspects daily telegraph labour to rip up school trans ban. labour could ditch guidelines banning children from being taught that there are more than two genders. a shadow minister has suggested . a shadow minister has suggested. bridget phillipson said that guidance announced by the conservatives earlier this year on what pupils can be taught about sex and gender, would be reviewed by a labour government . reviewed by a labour government. also. election date betting inquiry widened and three day waits in a&e for more than nine 18,000 patients. also, power cut chaos at manchester airport is a disaster in manchester today. all the flights were cancelled, devastating for people trying to either go on a business trip or, more importantly, go on holiday. the guardian now sunak urged to drop candidates as betting investigation widens. labour set to name dozens of new peers. and
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really sad news regarding the football scotland out of the euros after last ditch defeat. the times farage wants the west to start sensible negotiations with vladimir putin. western leaders should hold peace talks with president putin to break the stalemate in stalemate in ukraine. nigel farage has said that reform uk leader has already courted criticism from across the political spectrum, after claiming that the west provoked russia into war by expanding the european union and nato further east. a labour plan for changing gender with less evidence. labour will make it easier for people to legally transition by removing the need for them to prove they have lived as their preferred gender for two years. under the present rules, transgender people wishing to have their new gender legally recognised must obtain a gender recognition certificate , gender recognition certificate, so there you are. look, that's an interesting story, murray is in a hurry to recover for
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wimbledon. no. sue barker , but wimbledon. no. sue barker, but andy murray has desperately hoped that he could make a final appearance at wimbledon, the stage on which he produced some of his most extraordinary tennis before his retirement. but the former world number one is now fighting to get fit enough to start the tournament next monday. after undergoing surgery on his back . metro met office on his back. metro met office issues risk of death warning turning up the heat britain could see its first 30 degree centigrade heat wave of the summer this week, prompting a health warning over an increased risk of death for vulnerable people. those are your front pages for full reaction. i'm delighted to welcome former government adviser claire pearsall gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson and former brexit party candidate and social worker joseph david. i'm very interested by this story. nigel nelson ten days left to stop the disaster of a starmer super
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majority. the mail right voters have just ten days to save britain from the calamity of a labour supermajority. the prime minister will warn tomorrow. in a dramatic message, rishi sunak will urge disaffected tory supporters not to hand unchecked power to sir keir starmer when they cast their vote on july the 4th. now the first thing my interpretation of that, nigel, is that they seem to have conceded defeat already. >> absolutely. and this is the last throw of the dice. what they're trying to do is to get people in especially marginal constituencies to vote for them, or at least not vote for labour. yeah.in or at least not vote for labour. yeah. in the hope that they can can reduce this so—called supermajority problem. with that and our first past the post system doesn't work. yeah. you can you can do it in individual individual seats, but you can't have any kind of, well, a third of us won't vote for labour. therefore we'll keep the majority down, you can get rid of your tory candidate or your liberal democrat candidate by
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voting tactically, but you really can't. you really can't can't, do anything about the outcome of the for the country and bear in mind that that although we all have the right to vote, not every vote carries the same weight. so if you're in a very marginal constituency , a very marginal constituency, your vote is more important. and 200,000 votes can actually change the course of an election. yeah. >> claire pearsall labour look likely to win the next election. no surprises there. that's not a plot spoiler , is it? but is the plot spoiler, is it? but is the idea of a supermajority for any party a bad thing? is it dangerous for democracy ? dangerous for democracy? >> it's never great to you hand one party an enormous amount of power. but i do dislike , like power. but i do dislike, like this word supermajority. i really wish that people would stop using it. it's an americanism. it means something in american politics. it doesn't in american politics. it doesn't in the united kingdom , we had an in the united kingdom, we had an 80 seat majority. do you remember those days when the conservative party were in power, that could be a supermajority in first past the
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post. so it's a ridiculous statement. but on the serious side of this, i think it is really bad politics, really bad for democracy to have one party that can largely go unchecked by anybody in opposition. if, for example, they have something like a 2 to 300 seat advantage. >> well, that's right, i mean, it's possible that labour could win 500 seats, which would be quite remarkable. the biggest win in 100 years of parliamentary democracy. joseph, is that proof that somehow our electoral system is flawed in some way? >> i personally am a i'm an advocate for proportional representation, but i have to say we live in a democracy, and if people want to vote in a labour supermajority, for lack of a better term, then more power to them. >> so we come up with another name. should we call it a mega majority? >> just a majority. >> just a majority. >> omg wtf why family showbizzle why wait for the last ten days when you've had 15 years? >> this is the thing. this is
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the politics of fear. it's saying don't vote for those guys. >> they're going to be as somebody that wants a conservative victory. are you disappointed by this approach from the prime minister i'm disappointed with the entire campaign, if i'm honest. >> why is that , it's lacklustre. >> why is that, it's lacklustre. it hasn't managed to connect with the electorate, and it hasn't taken into account that people are genuinely very upset with the conservatives. i think if we'd come out and said , hands if we'd come out and said, hands up, we have messed this up. this is what we offer. this is why you should vote conservative as opposed to don't vote for laboun opposed to don't vote for labour. i think things might be quite different. would you have waited till november? >> yes. >> yes. >> oh, yes. and nigel, if sir keir starmer achieves an enormous majority, a wowser majority , you know, 500 seats, majority, you know, 500 seats, majority, you know, 500 seats, majority of several hundred would that change how labour do government. yes because they don't have any opposition. >> and i think that it's absolutely right . what you do absolutely right. what you do needis absolutely right. what you do need is some kind of decent opposition to scrutinise you. i mean you could not voting stuff down. so let's give labour 100
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150 majority. that's fine . when 150 majority. that's fine. when you start getting into the several hundred i mean we could be talking about a 300 majority. they could almost do whatever they like. and suddenly the house of lords is the place that becomes important because they're the ones who can call them to account. and keir starmer, of course, is a long term plan to abolish the house of lords. yes. >> and this is that would be an historic opportunity to have major constitutional change like that with with such a large majority. yeah. i don't think he would do it on that basis because if that you really would need to keep some kind of check and balance on a government. >> what will probably happen if you end up this way, it'll all sort itself out in the sense the opposition will be within the labour party. it'll form itself into factions . yeah, and that's into factions. yeah, and that's where the pressure will come. on keir starmer within majority of, let's say, 300, it's impossible for there to be a labour equivalent of the erg. >> well, no northern research group or any. >> no. they could i mean what you could you. yes, you could
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find that the same sort of factionalisation you seen in the conservative party you would find the labour party. they've had different groups, the tribune group, had different groups, the tribune group , for instance, tribune group, for instance, which is quite left wing, so , so which is quite left wing, so, so various groups may, may well form, but it would obviously be within the party. >> would they only have leverage if he had a sort of 20 or 30 seat majority? if it's 300, don't the mathematics always favour the prime minister? >> of course it does . which is >> of course it does. which is which is the problem with whatever, whatever we call this thing , a wowser majority, thing, a wowser majority, a majority, you name it. yeah yes. thatis majority, you name it. yeah yes. that is a problem that what i'm arguing is that it's probably the labour party that would curtail certain plans if that was the result. politics are always sort of find its own level at some point. >> do you think that starmer , if >> do you think that starmer, if he does have this amazing majority, will go beyond the remit of the manifesto? what might a labour government do with unchecked power? >> i think there is the taxation question and the problem is at the moment is everybody is looking at the conservative party and what they're not
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doing, what what we should be looking at are what the other parties are purporting to offer. we're not scrutinising labour's offering at the moment . we're offering at the moment. we're not looking at the potential rise in taxation , which could rise in taxation, which could come the concreting over green belts , which could come belts, which could come potential for great belt, great belt, a rather green belt, no, no, no green belt . there has no, no green belt. there has been an article recently that said green belt. yeah, but something's green belt that you live in an area with green belts. i thought you'd be a bit more concerned that the countryside is going to be concrete. >> but what i'm saying is that some, some green belt could be a car park, it could be some green belt was actually designated. >> it's not it's not all summer meadows, is it? >> it's not all summer meadows. but i think it's quite concerning. the labour party are also looking to change and reform the planning sector, so that you wouldn't have community, voices being able to overrule planning permissions. >> but that's to , to, to achieve >> but that's to, to, to achieve their plans of windfarms and so
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happy for a 500 house development to be put on your doorstep with absolutely no nofice doorstep with absolutely no notice taken of infrastructure of utilities. prefer a wind farm? you would prefer , but you farm? you would prefer, but you also have to be fair to labour. >> if it's in their manifesto to build 1.5 million new homes, which is the plan, they've got to build them somewhere, indeed. however i would say labour still believe that we have a housing crisis as opposed to a population crisis, and to give them unchecked power when already our town centres are being destroyed by these lego buildings that are coming up everywhere, i think that the entire country will look very different at the end of a labour government. >> of course, labour will argue that they will use any majority to make britain better fix our broken economy and tackle illegal immigration. and if they win, let's hope they do. what about this though? in the time comes joseph labour plan for changing gender with less evidence and also telegraph labour to rip up school trans ban . it's an interesting story. ban. it's an interesting story. labour could ditch guidelines
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banning children from being taught there are more than two genders, to according the shadow education secretary, bridget phillipson. >> your reaction to that? >> your reaction to that? >> so this comes up quite a lot in my work. i deal with clients who who are trans, who are going through these changes. what i would say is it's very dangerous to take a political stance on this. you need to follow the science. what the medical professions are saying. and if we look at what happened with the tavistock clinic and how they've had their knuckles rapped so superbly, and of course they were shut down, indeed, indeed, i think we need to be very, very careful with this. there's no denying that people who are going through these kind of changes or body dysmorphia are going through something incredibly significant, and they need kind ness and compassion. but we need to be very careful about these. these are long standing changes to somebody's physiology. nigel, does this paint a picture of five years of woke hell under labour? >> no. what you're just doing is making a. if you decide to
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change your gender, it is to do it in a less humiliating way. so at the moment, at what labour are planning to suggesting is rather than the two years beforehand, living in your acquired gender before you apply for a gender recognition certificate . this is saying that certificate. this is saying that they would have a cooling off penod they would have a cooling off period after that to reverse their decision. that seems, it seems, a minor change and perfectly reasonable. the big one is the fact that people won't have to go before a gender recognition panel, which they find really humiliating, to have to open everything up to a group of strangers psychologists, lawyers, doctors , us. so that lawyers, doctors, us. so that would be abandoned. so all you're doing is you're making you're doing is you're making you're making it a bit more dignified. if you want, if you want to change gender. >> although what i think it sounds like to me, claire and i hear what you're saying, nigel, but it sounds to me like labour is yielding to trans ideology, which is the idea that you can change your biological sex. which last time i checked from my gcse biology textbook is not possible. >> i think they are. and i think
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this was inevitable, but i it's a really tricky subject and i really wish that it was not being put as a political football, i really do. there are vulnerable people out there and we are talking about people's lives now. i have my own views on it, but i also think that we need to be mindful of the feelings and give respect to those individuals going through transition. >> if you want to live as a trans person, you know, you've got to have love and support and respect and all that. but really quick one, you're a mother, aren't you? yeah. how do you feel about kids aged 8 or 9 being told there are more than 100 genders? >> not at that age. and i don't think that you should have that. i think, yes, talk to them. sex and relationship education only. >> i'm not sure i would even say that there are 100 genders to nigel nelson, because i think it would confuse him. >> yeah, i would be confused. >> yeah, i would be confused. >> very, nigel. yes. he's spent decades, decades on fleet street , but we must educate our kids. >> that's the important thing. >> that's the important thing. >> educate fair enough. brilliant stuff. look. next up,
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more of tomorrow's front pages. we've got the daily mirror in the wings. and also in the last word of labour mps. office is vandalised with the word genocide sprayed on the walls. meanwhile, a group called the muslim vote make a dark threat to labour by promising a 25 year war, which will not be pretty for the party. in a since deleted tweet, is dangerous sectarian politics here to stay? be asking the government's former
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next. bit of election housekeeping. earlier, we spoke to former conservative mp robert halfon, who said he's been campaigning in harlow. so here's a list of the candidates who are running. we've got hannah ellis , we've got hannah ellis, conservatives, malcolm featherstone, reform uk , yasmin featherstone, reform uk, yasmin gregory, greens, riyad manan, liberal democrats lois perry, ukip and chris vince , labour. ukip and chris vince, labour. and it's time now for the last word and stella creasy, a labour parliamentary candidate, has had
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the windows of her office smashed and the words labour child bombing, liars graffitied on the pavement outside. meanwhile, in a since deleted tweet . but we've got it here for tweet. but we've got it here for you if you're watching the programme, if you're listening on the radio, i'll read it out. this is a group called the muslim vote who make a dark threat to labour, promising a 25 year war, which, and i quote , year war, which, and i quote, will not be pretty for the party. what does that mean? and is this kind of dangerous sectarian politics here to stay? to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome the government's former anti—muslim hatred star, fiyaz mughal fiyaz. good to see you again. first of all, how would you interpret separate that threatening message from a group calling themselves the muslim vote? >> well, i would interpret it as intimidating, harassing and potentially threatening to future labour candidates. you know, to have something , an know, to have something, an entity call the muslim vote by itself is deeply problematic, as
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if religion should get involved and how people vote. i have a real substantive problem with that. so that tweet was appalling. it shows the mindset of the people behind this website. it is highly divisive. and in this election where people are being intimidated, sally stella creasy, for example, we need to clearly say it is unacceptable. and that particular website , we need to particular website, we need to find out who's behind it and who's funding it, because we don't need such sectarianism and division in our country right now. >> indeed. but will these voices get louder as the years go by? i mean, let's not forget that sir keir starmer convinced the speaker of the house not to run an amendment vote on a ceasefire in gaza because he feared for the safety of his mps. this is a genuine threat to our democracy, isn't it ? isn't it? >> it is, it is. look, this is a genuine threat to our democracy .
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genuine threat to our democracy. we, russia, are a genuine threat to our democracy . there are to our democracy. there are numerous factors that are impacting on our fragile democracy. i need to be very clear. democracy is fragile. we have had this fragility of a sense where we can all partake in who gets elected in our in our democratic systems . but the our democratic systems. but the fact is, we must defend our fragile democracy. this is a threat, extremism is a threat. sectarianism is a threat. and we just can't accept these kind of statements, these kind of website . yes. and i would say website. yes. and i would say even the people who are funding them need to be found out, because this is dividing and creating fear and instability in our country. and we don't need this. >> most definitely. fiyaz what would you say? how would you put it percentage wise? the extent to which these small groups , to which these small groups, like the muslim vote, represent the views of british muslims? i mean, how fringe are they? do
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you think ? you think? >> look, i don't think they're that fringe , okay? i don't think that fringe, okay? i don't think that fringe, okay? i don't think that that fringe, sadly. you know, you're asking me percentage wise. i would say something under the under the, under the 10. okay. still that is still a significant amount of individuals . now what does that individuals. now what does that mean. does that mean that we have an ongoing problem. we do have an ongoing problem. we do have an ongoing problem. we do have an issue of a battle of values in this country, something i've always said. we have an issue of a battle of values. we have to have a substantive definition of the values of our country that bind us.the values of our country that bind us. the last sets of governments didn't do that . i strongly didn't do that. i strongly suspect labour will not do that, but i hope that they do that. they actually try to find the values that bind us and support them. so, you know, these kind of groups are playing on fractures in society and hinckley. we have a lot of work to do to explain, to be able to educate , inform and bring us
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educate, inform and bring us together on core values of our country. >> phil, it's good to see you again. we'll catch up soon. my thanks to the government's former anti—muslim hate tsar fiaz mughal. fascinating conversation . let's get reaction conversation. let's get reaction from my top pundits, including joseph david, your reaction to those scenes? you've got a labour mps constituency c office vandalised and a threatening message from the muslim vote. >> so this is a deeply undemocratic. it stands against everything that we stand for in this country. i think what's very clear is that these actors have been emboldened by a lacklustre police service and, quite frankly, a justice system. thatis quite frankly, a justice system. that is a joke, if people are committing these kinds of crimes, getting a slap on the wrist and being allowed to rejoin society as if nothing ever happened , it's tacit ever happened, it's tacit encouragement for this behaviour i >>i >> i cannot, cannot disagree. i cannot, i cannot agree with you more . can i? cannot, i cannot agree with you more . can 1? thank joseph david more. can 1? thank joseph david claire pearsall and nigel nelson ? we could have easily done another hour, but headlines is
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on the way. headline is this coming, thank you to my team for working so hard this weekend. i'm back on tuesday from 3 to 6 pm. in for martin daubney. i'm back on tuesday from 3 to 6 pm. in for martin daubney . do pm. in for martin daubney. do join me on tuesday afternoon and of course friday for friday night live in next weekend. headliners is next. keep it gb news. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. a warmer night tonight compared with much of summer so far, and then a mostly fine start to the new week with a ridge of high pressure extending across the uk today. there is a weak front approaching the far north—west that's thickening up the cloud, freshening up the breeze across western scotland, northern ireland overnight with some patchy cloud arriving and also some patchy outbreaks of light rain and drizzle. clear spells
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generally elsewhere, with temperatures holding up under those clear spells in some spots 15 or 16 celsius by dawn. there will be some mist and low cloud across the far southwest , and across the far southwest, and there'll be lots of low cloud in there'll be lots of low cloud in the north and northwest of scotland, with those outbreaks of rain affecting the west coast and the western isles. elsewhere across scotland, plenty of early sunshine to come. 15 or 16 celsius first thing northern ireland some sun breaking through the early cloud and any light showers tending to fizzle away. much of england and wales sunny. first thing, there'll be some mist around southern coasts and some low cloud inland as well. that should tend to lift and break up plenty of sunshine. then, developing across the uk and even across western scotland, the cloud will thin and the rain will ease, so a fine summer's day for the vast majority and it's going to feel hotter compared with the weekend temperatures reaching 26 to 28 celsius in the south—east, up to
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25 celsius for parts of scotland and northern ireland. mid to high teens around coasts and the far north. now into tuesday , far north. now into tuesday, another weak front pushes thicker cloud once again into western scotland and northern ireland as that moves across scotland . the chance of some scotland. the chance of some heavy showers in the north east. elsewhere, the heat continues to build. temperatures rise day by day , up to 30 celsius in places day, up to 30 celsius in places by wednesday and thursday . by wednesday and thursday. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of weather
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gb news. >> good evening. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. headliners is coming right up. but first, our top stories tonight. labour is calling on the gambling commission to name candidates being investigated over the election date. betting scandal.
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pat mcfadden, labour's shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster , has written to the lancaster, has written to the commission's ceo urging for the details to be released before polling day. it comes amid reports that the conservative party's chief data officer, nick mason , has taken a leave of mason, has taken a leave of absence. the tories director of campaigns tony leigh, and his wife laura saunders. they're also being probed, as is the pm's parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, who's admitted to quote , an error of admitted to quote, an error of judgement. labour is pledging to end so—called dickensian diy dentistry in england if it wins the general election. shadow health secretary wes streeting says people are resorting to pulling out their own teeth. labour's plan includes an extra 700,000 urgent and emergency dental appointments a year, plus golden hellos of £20,000 for new graduates working in underserved areas. now earlier this year, the government announced a £200 million recovery plan, including offering dentists cash to take
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