analysis studies, unveiled its analysis of the major parties manifestos this morning. of the major parties manifestos this morning . the think tank this morning. the think tank accused both labour and the conservatives of maintaining a conspiracy of silence on their individual spending plans. but the prime minister insisted tax cuts are possible , which his cuts are possible, which his government would fund by spending less on welfare . spending less on welfare. >> here we have a fully costed manifesto which can deliver tax cuts for people at every stage in their lives , and that is in their lives, and that is largely funded by making sure that we can find some savings in the growth of the welfare budget, because it's been growing at unsustainable levels since the pandemic, we've set out a very clear plan to reform that, to support people into work. and in fact, the institute of fiscal studies acknowledged that last time around, when they said that that wasn't possible , said that that wasn't possible, that it was actually delivered. and that's something that the institute of fiscal studies themselves have said. >> well, keir starmer rejected the institute's analysis altogether, insisting that britain could do better. >> don't accept the forecasts that say we can't do better than

this. the economy has flatlined for 14 years. that's exactly what we are wanting to change. that's why we've set out our plans for growth in our manifesto . so the choice is more manifesto. so the choice is more stagnation. as we've seen for the last 14 years, which hasn't done our country any good, or turn the page , rebuild, regrow turn the page, rebuild, regrow our economy and create wealth so that across britain people feel better off. >> nigel farage has been speaking on itv this evening, claiming that the former us president donald trump learned a lot from watching his european parliament speeches before running for the us presidency on itv tonight. in the leader interviews, mr farage responded to the idea that he's britain's version of donald trump by saying i think we're very different, but i do think we think the same. on many issues. >> he's learnt quite a lot from me. i think. i think it goes both ways. yeah. >> what's he learned from you.7 >> what's he learned from you? >> oh, i think he was. i mean he was watching my speeches in the european parliament for many years really before he, before he decided to run.

>> yes. he's told you that. >> yes. he's told you that. >> i know that to be true. >> i know that to be true. >> nigel farage speaking earlier. now, in other news today, the search for the missing british teenager jay slater has continued throughout today on the spanish island of tenerife . the 19 year old tenerife. the 19 year old disappeared while on holiday last monday and yesterday police were searching a village near the last known location his phone was traced to. but there is still no sign of him. jay hasn't been heard from since, calling one of his friends, telling her he was lost and his phone was running out of battery . and lastly, princess anne is in hospital tonight after sustaining minor injuries and concussion after being kicked by a horse on her gatcombe park stake in gloucestershire yesterday, a palace statement was issued earlier on today saying the king has been kept closely informed and joins the whole royal family in sending his fondest love to his sister for a speedy recovery. that's the news for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts.

scan that qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news. commelina. it's time now for headliners . headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners, your first look at tuesday's top stories with me simon evans. joining me tonight a man immune to chaos that steve and alan and chaotic immunology enthusiast , that's louis enthusiast, that's louis schaefer. i don't know whether or not that's a new, card in yourin or not that's a new, card in your in your pack that they've introduced there. it's been put together. >> i don't pay attention to it because i'm not trying to be anything. i'm just trying to do. i'm always the straightest person on the show . this i'm always the straightest person on the show. this is i'm always the straightest person on the show . this is the person on the show. this is the thing. and the people can sense that and they can feel it. yeah yeah, well, there's some good immunology stuff in the final

quarter, i've noted, so stay tuned for that , immunology fans. tuned for that, immunology fans. >> in the meantime, let's take a look at the front pages . we have look at the front pages. we have the daily mail obsessed holly fan plots rape and murder, our cat is called holly. had a nasty shock there for a moment, telegraph chief scotland yard leaked names in tory betting scandal and princess and there who suffered a memory loss. nothing to do with the betting scandal. guardian low wage growth has pushed 900,000 children into poverty . there is children into poverty. there is holly willoughby or healy wallaby, as i like to think of her. i news, tories and labour refused to rule out ten tax rises as ifs urges leaders to come clean. that's close to an entire paragraph rather than a headline. to be honest, the metro does in plot to kidnap tv's holly. that's more like it. and finally, the mirror guards plot to kidnap, rape and kill holly . those were your headlines

holly. those were your headlines . so we, slalom around the holly stuff, steve, and get on to the telegraph. yeah for legal reasons. >> it turns out you can say whatever you want about scotland yard and get away with it. you can't about holly, because there's a court case going on. scotland yard leaked names in tory betting scandal . scotland yard leaked names in tory betting scandal. is the accusation here. police accused of revealing identity of those suspected of betting on the election date. there's a graph on the online version of this story, which is lovely. it just shows you the rates of betting on the date of the election. and it's just kind of all over the place. it looks like probably a normal distribution in a graph form, until all of a sudden, bang! there's one day where tons of people drop a couple of hundred quid on it. >> i mean, that's only a couple of hundred quid, though, isn't it? i mean, i understand that people feel it's very shabby, but it's pretty trivial at the same time to be on the front pages with a couple of weeks to go to a general election. >> yeah. i don't even think this

is the story that we need to focus on. this is not going to sway that many people, is it? i if i'm being harsh, i would say that your core tory voter is in favour of doing whatever you can, as long as it's technically legal and earns you some money. that's part of the core of it. >> i wouldn't say so. no i think possibly your core neoliberal voter, but i do think that there is there's a real shabbiness here. it's very disappointing. it's not the first thing that's been disappointing about this tory government 14 years, but it certainly feels like we are seeing the last days of rome as we did when, i don't know, you remember john major's government. you rememberjohn major's government. you were i wasn't there, i came, i came in 2000 when things were on the way up. >> and since i've been here, they've been on the way down. but, the point is, is this it ? but, the point is, is this it? it's they're losing the election. they're going to be out of a job. so let him steal a couple of hundred pounds. it's no big deal. have they stolen any furniture? even give him the furniture. even give him the ford cortina . whatever. ford cortina. whatever. >> it reminds me of that. there's always that that, montage they show from the end of goodfellas when they start playing layla and they realise the game's up and they're trying to get away. you know, you've got to hold all full of readies

in the boot of the car. >> i have seen that film, but i forget the it just feels to me it's very emblematic of two things. >> one, one a kind of disrespect for you. i understand what you're saying about the tories, but they should , if anything, be but they should, if anything, be the party that upholds some traditional values. >> where have you been living? >> where have you been living? >> i know, of course, this is this one. but also, more importantly, it's so idiotic . i importantly, it's so idiotic. i mean, it's so easily traceable. if you're going to if you're if you've got some insider information and you want to make a few quid out of it, everyone must surely have a mate that they can make an unrecorded, you know what i mean? >> and until the dark web surely does something, it's not difficult to, like cover. >> you know, just throw a few leaves and twigs over your tracks or just have have your girlfriend say, hey, go place a bet, go down to the shop. >> well, i mean, there is one case where both the wife and the husband are being investigated because they're both okay, so i'm betting it really is the last days of the month. >> can i just can i just say how great you look? simon thank you very much. looking at your game, there's something fresh about it. >> i'm sleeping in my car. it's made all the difference, tuesdays express. lewis.

>> tuesdays express. this is the good news, princess anne, maybe it's not such good news because we don't know. but princess anne, she's the. she's the sister of the somebody of the king of the king. and she's the second oldest, right ? second oldest, right? >> i kind of feel like once he's the king, she should no longer be a prince. there should be a name for sister of the king. should sister of the king the same? yeah >> it sounds better than it is. but whatever she was, she was in a horse accident. she's highly regarded, even among sort of, hovering, wavering royalists. she's. she's hard working. she keeps it, keeps it real because she doesn't say anything. >> that's. she's just. i she doesn't say anything. >> that's. she'sjust. i mean, >> that's. she's just. i mean, that's what they're supposed to do. >> no, but she puts in, like, 200, 300, you know, minor state visits a year. you know, she goes to the she does the hard yards, as i believe your people say. >> well, can i just tell you something? i don't have no idea what a hard yard is. >> it's slightly less than a hard metre. >> anyway, she she doesn't do anything, but she's been hit in the head. i feel feel for her. i mean, these things can happen when you ride on horses. she sounds like she was on foot and was sort of collided with the horse.

>> it does sound like it was a bit, i think maybe a horse reared up or impeded or something. >> yeah, i suppose they are as a people horse adjacent, aren't they? there's a certain level of poshness. i thought you were saying horses. >> they are as a people. horses. horses are? yeah they're they're evolving. >> but i mean, i think it's hard. you're victim blaming to say like, oh, you know, she's if you're spending time near horses, these things can happen. yes. it's i am victim blaming. yeah. but you know, it's brian harvey managed to drive over himself. so it's not about the mode of transport. >> are you suggesting princess anne was often on mdma at the point that she encountered this horse? >> is that what i thought i was implying? but i think i'll find out when the beefeaters turn up. >> i hope i've managed to thread the eye of that libel needle. finally, the guardian steve, they go with low wage growth, has pushed 900,000 children into poverty. >> see if you can spot the theme in the numbers that they talk about, over the last 14 years, it's the two reports have laid bare what's been happening. the average weekly wage now just £16 higher than it was in 2010, 14

years ago. strange that, that in real terms, your two reports, one by the tuc that says over 100, 1350 children a week in households with at least one working parent, but this is dragged into poverty. you're going to question the definition of poverty. >> i am, i'm afraid, because it's come from the tuc. it's not quite the runnymede trust, but it's adjacent. so what exactly is their definition of poverty? is it based on the median salary thatis is it based on the median salary that is on the rest of the country? >> they use the phrase breadline as well. again, how do you measure that? you need to incorporate the increasing cost of red line in employers. >> they can't actually afford bread. >> yeah. they're just under the ability to afford bread. then you've got the, have they not got a sourdough starter. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so that's the difference, isn't it? you can tell your red line, let them eat salad . line, let them eat salad. >> the bread line is where you get the bread. it's not about being able to afford bread. you get the free bread. oh that's a different that's a soviet bread line. >> the bread line in this country. >> i mean something different here. >> you totally like a plimsoll line if you're trying to float your loaf. i don't understand that either. but anyway, the point is that there's not been. it's true. there's not been wage

growth. they kind of missed the fact there's low wage growth has also been tied into low inflation and low interest rates. we've had a rather almost stagnant period. so some of that would be expected . but if it is would be expected. but if it is making children poorer that's even if it's not, please, sir, can i have some more gruel? poverty. these aren't good figures that there's been an increase in. but the institute for fiscal studies , one says for fiscal studies, one says that it's now 30% of children live in households that are officially on the poverty line, compared to 27% in 2010. i know 3% increase is bad, but it's not. i was expecting it to be. it used to be only two kids and what are they saying? >> a third of children live in poverty, live in households on the poverty line. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's the yeah i mean that's i that that either suggests that they have got a simply a statistical definition of poverty , which for instance, my poverty, which for instance, my parents wouldn't recognise as actual poverty or, or this country is in a lot worse state than , you know, maybe, maybe than, you know, maybe, maybe i'm, you know, well, what makes it an oblivious to add into that it an oblivious to add into that it will be poorer families have more kids and that will skew the data. well, they now no longer give any extra benefit after the first two children, which that's

the number of children in poor families, not the number of poor families. yeah. okay. >> no, that's not even children and poor families. those kids that child benefit every every person, every child gets that. yeah. no, that is that's not wrong. >> no, no i mean they shouldn't i reckon they should. >> well i well i mean even this country has had its height. >> the aristocracy used to have more children than the, you know, than the labouring poor. it was when that was reversed. it was when that was reversed. it was when that was reversed. it was the beginning of the end. yes what we could do about that now, it's all very well talking about the ifr. it's the afr. you've got to worry about the aristocratic fertility rate. anyway. those are the front pages. sadly, we have nothing from the boffins of the star this evening, but hopefully they'll be back with us tomorrow. in the meantime, stay with us part two manifesto. mumblings. election shenanigans all coming up.

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tuesday's top stories. i'm simon evans. we're still here with stephen allen and lewis schaefer. we're going inside the papers now. steve, the guardian have the news that our political parties are soft peddling on the tough choices. this country is facing, and having paid attention to at least a dozen elections since 1979, i can only say i'm shocked. >> yeah. so labour would raise taxes rather than cut spending if growth is weak, says ifs. so it's interesting to remember this is not labour saying they do it. this is the ifs saying what they think labour would do if the conditions were right, and they actually said that the labour government would raise taxes or soften debt rules. so that's not in the headline. they're really focusing on the tax thing because they're no where to get labour. so the head of the ifs, paul johnson, was at a press conference. he said there are so many pressures on spending that it's hard for that to be the thing that gives . to be the thing that gives. given that there's been so many strikes about spending in the civil service, i suppose labour said that it would stick to the government's spending plans. so again, it's another story where labour says it will do one thing. someone else says labour

will do something else. and the headune will do something else. and the headline goes with that. and the shocking thing about this is it's the guardian . you expect it's the guardian. you expect this from the telegraph is the guardian is the ifs , right? guardian is the ifs, right? >> they are considered to be fairly neutral, do you not? you don't know they are. >> yeah. i mean you look where the money comes from. it's the only person who's with a quick google is complaining, complained about them. was nick clegg right. who back in those days said that they were some neoliberal forces. he was he was not in favour of them. but i mean, yeah, there's definitely balance. wait until the next story. they have a go at the other parties as well. in fact, even the ifs said both parties are hiding the shame of the fact that they can't afford. >> well, this is the thing, but the reality is we've had higher taxes for the last since liz truss, right, than any, other government in living memory. really realistic living memory of anyone who was paying taxes then and would be retired now. so it's a pretty tough call to say the next government is going to put them up again. >> yeah. and it's the big if it's if there's no growth, if things are so bad and they try and cut spending and they can't,

and cut spending and they can't, and then they'll probably look at debt . but if they don't do at debt. but if they don't do that they'll raise taxes. so it's quite far. do you think it's quite far. do you think it's realistic or plausible that, the next labour government will be able to cut taxes or cut spending that this present tory government has felt were were , government has felt were were, were redlined? >> no, no, no, no, because it's the tories . it's >> no, no, no, no, because it's the tories. it's i mean it's laboun the tories. it's i mean it's labour. labour wants to spend money. that's what they do. as i say at every single show, is that the tories way is the tories steal and labour wastes and that's what they , they and that's what they, they promised, they promised. oh, i live in a, i live in a what you call it a labour borough. and they're constantly complaining about the tories. the tories have cut our money, cut our money. so you can't they're not going to cut. the fact is, can i just say sorry. no. go for it. is that is that this ifs. just say sorry. no. go for it. is that is that this ifs . we is that is that this ifs. we learned we learned about this last year. the year before there private think tank. i don't know where their money comes from. do you know where their money comes from? no. >> you're thinking of the iea. they're the ones that people don't know where the money comes from. >> whatever. >> whatever. >> but even with this, i mean, i like the iea, but they are they're the ones that everyone

says, you know, you i knew it. what is it? >> what is the iea institute for economic affairs? whatever it is, the fact is, is these people should not be paid much attention to. >> okay, continuing the theme of wild promises and vague handwaving louis apparently the reform manifesto is not that great either. >> well, it's the same thing. it's because these people, the institute for fiscal studies , institute for fiscal studies, they say that the left that the tories that the reform party are, that they're that their promises are feeble and are impossible to , to achieve. impossible to, to achieve. >> i mean, to be fairto nigel >> i mean, to be fair to nigel farage, he did specifically say we don't regard this as a manifesto so that we are intending to put into place should we find ourselves in government. he is not. he's not pretending that there's any chance of them being in government. he's saying, this is this. this is the kind of program , that we would like to program, that we would like to see. in theory, i think that's possibly a legitimate use of a manifesto in these circumstances . i don't know, i mean, you know, the green manifesto, generally speaking, is , you generally speaking, is, you know, for, you know, is fairly

narrow, isn't it ? narrow, isn't it? >> and their goals would be unachievable. but that's the point of the smaller parties is to drag the overton window rather than think. but but it's still fair to say the thing you've written down in your contract, not manifesto, would be unaffordable. yeah so that's a good context. if you know that this promise can't be achieved , this promise can't be achieved, someone else's smaller promise actually becomes more worthy. but i love the fact that this is the guy at the ifs who's, in the first story, slighted both major parties in this story slighted all the small parties. i think he's had enough. i think he's just sick of having to deal with these like ifs four fs more like go home, do your homework. >> why is the telegraph printing this ? why is the telegraph this? why is the telegraph coming out with something that's anti—reform ? anti—reform? >> oh, all the papers are anti—reform, i think, aren't they? broadly speaking . i mean, they? broadly speaking. i mean, you can understand, i don't. the telegraph seems to me to be slightly schizophrenic these days.i slightly schizophrenic these days. i imagine they'll come out for , for, for conservatives. but for, for, for conservatives. but they, i mean, it's not the monolithic, you know, view or even the coherent view it used to be. >> but there are definitely this

is anti—reform , yeah. is anti—reform, yeah. >> i think the thing about reform is they do know that they would like to shrink the state. and as he says, it's a perfectly reasonable ambition, but you've got to tell us how you're going to achieve it, because if you just put, you know, half of the pubuc just put, you know, half of the public sector on the dole, the day after the election, then you've got an enormous welfare cost that isn't i mean, even if you feel it's moral, it doesn't. >> are they? but the i don't mean to interrupt you. >> no, go for it. >> no, go for it. >> but here's the manifesto. is it written in gold or whatever? no, they don't have to do with the matter. i think it was written in crayon, wasn't it? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but also when people say, well, cut spending in our heads, well, cut spending in our heads, we always imagine civil servants who are, you know, the blob, but actually thinking of people who work in the police force, the prisons , these are all part of prisons, these are all part of the bill, and you don't want to see those slashed ? see those slashed? >> no. that's true. well, steve times have news that keir starmer is at odds with his own shadow education secretary and indeed his own shadow, keir starmer will not allow gender ideology to be taught in schools. there will be a special

class afterwards for that. i'm kidding. look at that. there's a joke that'll get me in trouble online. so the labour leader clarified the position after bridget phillipson was in an interview and said that they'd look again. they refused to endorse the guidelines published by ministers. keir starmer says i'm not in favour of ideology being taught in our schools. how brave , how brave to say i'm not brave, how brave to say i'm not in favour of ideology. if you get into the details, it's more that they're waiting for this publication of a government's consultation on sex and relationship education guidelines and they are in favour of age appropriate teaching of transgender issues. >> but it does sound as if he is keener to reassure a hesitant tory wet. whereas his education secretary is a little bit more still, possibly spiralized . still, possibly spiralized. >> well, he's definitely trying to make sure that spiraliser the thing that you use on hypnotised, you know. >> yeah, i know, spiralize. yeah. not, not not courgetti spaghetti bits of carrots, he just this is what sticks to him. if there's an accusation of like, it's the cliche, the trope

of he doesn't know what a woman is. >> the thing is, this is easy. and this is true, isn't it, lewis? as steve says it, nobody's going to say no . i nobody's going to say no. i think you should teach ideology at school. the question is, what's the ideology ? other what's the ideology? other people turn around and go, trans people turn around and go, trans people exist, and we're not going to, you know, that's not ideology, that's just reality. that's ideology . yeah. ideology. that's ideology. yeah. ideology. >> no, i it's everything is ideology. the fact that there's a that there that there's a pubuc a that there that there's a public school system is an ideology. the whole thing is ideology. the whole thing is ideology that they've got people learning about sex in school . learning about sex in school. well, certainly. >> i mean, i grew up learning ideology as i still prefer to refer to it, namely christianity, which was taught as though it were true, whereas other religions were taught as though they were a historical artefacts of a confused people , artefacts of a confused people, you know? and that's an ideology, right? i mean, it wasn't we weren't browbeaten, it wasn't we weren't browbeaten, it wasn't a religious school or stuff. but there's always going to be ideologies in schools. you cannot escape them. people are ideological, right? >> you can't like, say like saying eat broccoli or green vegetables . yeah, that's that's vegetables. yeah, that's that's an idea. >> it's simply a question of

what age you introduce it, i think, isn't it really. that's what people are arguing over. he's denying that there's any kind of primary school kind of, you know, these materials are brought out when they still are explained in sort of cartoon form, and other people are saying no. and harriet harman is arguing with jk rowling and so on. i think that's the worry, isn't it? >> it's more that people close to getting elected. he doesn't want to blow it. he's just being nice to. >> it's another part of the ming vase. >> he's he's basically counting up tony blair's years and he's going to say big party in sheffield boom . sheffield boom. >> louis, assuming there are more than three tory mps after the 4th of july, there is likely to be a leadership election. >> there will be. and maybe the person who wins will be happy because they were. they were the tory. this is kemi badenoch, hints at another tory leadership run after the general election. she's the black girl. very pretty. she was . she's in the pretty. she was. she's in the redrawn northwest essex seat. what did i say? did i say anything wrong? am i going to get into trouble for saying that? she's pretty and black. whatever. but she says that

she's. did she say. she didn't say that. she just don't say where she's standing or we have to name every other candidate. oh, did i do that? >> the only elephant did i do that? >> i think i just did that. so she was brilliant, though she is obviously she's the darling of the of the right, i would say not necessarily the strong right, but she's, she's certainly woke sceptic. >> but she also seems to have a good deal of oratorical power. she should have just she should have just gone. >> everybody should have left the. >> you think she should have left? >> she should have left. yeah. >> she should have left. yeah. >> well, should she be then reformed be i guess. >> what's the only other choice is reform. yeah, yeah. >> or maybe. well, i suppose, snp she's married to a scotsman, isn't she? >> oh, is that right? i know that's an interesting term. i know that feeling could just add muck is her married name. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> go on. actually, on two things because i listen to these stories on the way in because my phone reads out things, and when it does the possessive apostrophe, it says barry knockers. it makes me laugh, makes me laugh better than barry. >> enoch. >> enoch. >> yes. yeah, that's worse. but the quote is, she said, we will talk about the leadership things

after the election, not before. and from that they extrapolate it to didn't rule it out, didn't deny it. clearly she wants it. she's trying to bring down rishi. it's a lot of expectation. >> everyone knows that rishi is going to be on a sun lounger in la by by the 1st of september. got the tickets booked. >> he's got his new job at the world economic forum. >> yeah. god he's despicable. so steve wild and almost certainly mathematically illiterate use of exponential in a guardian headune exponential in a guardian headline about climate crisis. so true. >> i'm glad it's someone else who gets annoyed by it. look, you can only be exponential if the variable is in the exponent. it's as simple as that. >> well, wait, explain what that means . means. >> yeah, if you know the squared, cubed, etc. that's exponential. something to the power of something, i think. >> i think i don't understand, climate crisis ten times as many fires over the last 20 years. >> yeah. so presumably that means since 2004, there are now ten times as many fires. if there were ten fires in 2004, then you can say that's been an exponential increase. >> well, if you've only got two

data points though , you can data points though, you can change what the bases of the exponent. so you can make any two figures fit. >> oh okay. >> oh okay. >> right. that's the. but then three points on the graph you can see. yeah. but climate crisis driving exponential rise in the most extreme wildfires. scientists say it's scary. there's a feedback loop if you look at extreme wildfires. so you rule out the small ones made by stupid people doing accidents, whatever they put out, the big ones which are hard to control, they crack on for a while . the number of extreme while. the number of extreme fires has risen by more than ten times in the past 20 years. in certain areas, there are also twice as bad. if they've measured that online, there'll be someone saying , but extreme be someone saying, but extreme wildfires have always been ten times worse. this is a this is a measured thing by satellite. >> i'm sure it has increased . >> i'm sure it has increased. they do. some of them are in, quite northern latitudes as well, by the look of it, which is interesting. the big question , the more serious sceptical question is usually to do with fire breaks and, and brush clearance. right. >> yeah. and that's actually a way to solve it. go back to the old days. the indigenous peoples used to know to do a little bit of a fire here and there and

that, yes, that would fix it. >> it's one way of fixing, not even the indigenous people. 100 years ago. what? who? beavers. the beavers . is it? is it 100 the beavers. is it? is it 100 years ago, in the 1930s? the 1920s. and before that ? there 1920s. and before that? there was there was there was, i think ten times as many fires that as there are now . so and as there there are now. so and as there were ten years ago, they picked a super low numbers. they said this, this thing is such garbage things. that's in the guardian. it's garbage. it's basically, i'm sorry for saying that, that that the number of fires maybe have gone up from two to, to even if they went up to 20, they were at 150, 100 years ago. well, you can look it, you can look that up and you can you could google me. thank you. >> lewis, we are halfway through in the second half we have farage on khan. we have gender ideology in the classroom again. and a little light hearted beating banter in birmingham. we'll see you

and welcome back to headliners. over to the express . lewis, who over to the express. lewis, who referred to faraj's brutal takedown of sadiq khan over england flags. >> yes, this is good news. farage is brutal forward. that's the big deal . farage is brutal forward. that's the big deal. it was four words. and what were the four words that he said? because the deacon said he doesn't want anybody, any cab drivers to put up an england flag in their cab. and i don't think you're allowed any kind of flags or anything in your cabs anyway as it is. but he made a specific thing. no engush he made a specific thing. no english flags. and this is the thing, really. he so farage said that that that sadiq khan hates england and which is basically true. he doesn't think of himself as england, doesn't think of his kids as english. and, and that's the big that's the battle. that's being one of the battle. that's being one of the battle. that's being one of the battle lines in this country. >> are you do you think it's a, you think it's a pointed partisan attack by khan? genuinely i mean, it does it does feel relentless. the

attempts to de england ify london in particular. >> i think they're starting here, the english to other places. i always think if you're if you're born in this country and you're white, you might call yourself english. but if you're not white, you probably wouldn't call your you might call, you might call yourself english. but generally speaking, we have, as you've had in america for a long time, hyphenated nationalities . time, hyphenated nationalities. >> but i do think that, like african american, you don't have hyphenated nationalities. >> people are americans. you could be black, american, jewish, american, gay american. but at the end of the day , the but at the end of the day, the way english works, i can't explain exponential, but the way engush explain exponential, but the way english works is the last. the last word is the crucial word. >> okay , am i right? what do you >> okay, am i right? what do you think about. i don't like it. i have to say the flags. i think the black cab drivers should be entitled to fly them if they want to. they're not talking. they i mean, they've come up with some cockamamie. i think that's the right word . yeah. that's the right word. yeah. excuse that. it's a distraction likely to cause accidents . it likely to cause accidents. it clearly isn't. this is an attempt to stop cab drivers

expressing their patriotism. >> this is why i think they've covered their backsides quite well by having this general rule that there are no flags, no no signs showing anything. one of the arguments is, is you don't want football supporting flags up for teams where you know that taxi drives three yards further down the road and you can have some, some upset, but we shouldn't be seen. >> we've all seen the amount of palestinian flags that have gone up on every conceivable pole and surface and elevation and statue in london for the last six months to this point, i think no one would be distracted. >> the argument is it will be a distraction. no one would be distracted by saint george's cross whipping down the side of the road next to it on a taxi. no one would mind. it's is it woke? they're all called black cabsin woke? they're all called black cabs in fact, to be honest, not only were they not be distracted , but as i think one of them pointed out, they a lot of them carry advertising on the side. >> now that is vastly more distracting because you try and work out what it's saying, it's got text in it and so on. there are big, illuminated, what do you call it? like, advertising

hoardings, but they have video on, like, video hoardings, things. yeah so you can actually find yourself watching footage when you're supposed to be driving. yeah. and yet you're not allowed to have a red cross on a white background. >> no. >> no. >> i think it was amazing, though, that because normally on this channel, having a go at sadiq khan doesn't always end well. so you steered away from it. i thought we'd got to say goodbye to you. >> did i, did i attack sadiq? oh you got away with it, steve. >> the times have a red button issue for the left. now trans rights versus our nhs. >> yeah, nhs nurses sue over transgender policy that puts them at risk . their words. it's them at risk. their words. it's in quote marks. nurses claim that colleagues have experienced panic attacks after being required to change into work clothes in front of a sexually active biological male before you prejudge and we all dash into our silos about this story , into our silos about this story, get some details. the person who identifies as a woman is called rose . rose is not taking rose. rose is not taking hormones, had no surgery, and is currently trying to get their girlfriend pregnant. now i'm not in charge of who gets to call themselves trans, but rose as in rose to the occasion, probably by the sounds of it and the what

i'm saying is rose is more of a man than i am. and, who wouldn't love a nurse as well? rose sounds like the kind of person who really loves nurses, and the nhs told the nurses to educate themselves . oh, i hate that themselves. oh, i hate that phrase. and also, they probably are educated in biology enough to recognise a soldier when they see one. >> so what we're saying is rose is not trans at all, in your view, i'm not allowed to even have that view. >> well, i'm saying, look, you've got a biological male who's trying to say sexually active. >> what does that mean? just over the age of 16. >> i'm trying to get the girlfriend, like in office bants says you'll never guess what i did on the weekend. try to get my girlfriend. >> but this guy is in the loo. is in the girls loo. there are four women changing in the girls loo, and this guy rose. why would you pick a name like rose ? would you pick a name like rose? the whole purpose of being trans is to get a nice name. that's to get a better name than your name was with your partner, by the way. >> rose. >> rose. >> oh, but your name is at rose. but she wouldn't. but the point is, why would you pick a name like rose? it's not a name that you would pick today. the point is, is that this. i called my

daughter. >> he knows that i call my daughter. >> and my daughter is your daughter. >> name is rose. >> name is rose. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we're just gonna let it wash over us. >> i dare you, lewis. >> i dare you, lewis. >> the daily mail have another one of those headlines that would have made about as much sense. ten years ago as aliens ate my underpants. >> yeah, because you don't understand how the american system works. which is? it's a system works. which is? it's a system of checks. it's checks and balances. and the supreme court of america , which that's court of america, which that's not the bit that doesn't make sense. okay, to consider major ruling on gender reassignment surgery for children. for children, gender reassignment surgery for children? yes, exactly. can i get to the thing you're always interrupting me. and so. so what happens is joe biden is taking the. this is in tennessee , which is one of the tennessee, which is one of the 50 states that has their own laws and then they pass them. and then if they're going to be overruled, they can go to the supreme court of the united states, where joe biden has some can can place a case. so joe biden is taking tennessee to court to get them to castrate

children. >> so essentially, his argument is that their tennessee state law is in contravention of constitutional right of children to have themselves have themselves castrated. yeah i'd be amazed if the founding fathers had intended such a clause, but perhaps they've had enough. what do you think? well that's why it's an amendment, simon. >> you don't know how the american system works . they have american system works. they have to amend later. >> to which amendment was it? 14th. when did that get brought in? because the amendments were immediately there. >> really? >> really? >> well, the 14th amendment would freed the slaves. i think i didn't check this is in my memory. if i freed the slave. so it was 1865. >> somebody in the 60s, was it really ? really? >> yeah. so it was relatively late to do it. >> how are they going to do that under free the slaves? >> because because the amendment isn't just one line. it's a lot of different rules. that has to be tipp—ex by this. >> they couldn't just change it. >> they couldn't just change it. >> they couldn't just change it. >> the fact is, when they made the constitution up, they didn't even have surgery, let alone bodies to do surgery on who would this amendment have been

drafted under lincoln then? >> or was he already lincoln been dispatched at that point? >> he was dead. >> he was dead. we >> he was dead. we don't >> he was dead. we don't know who came after him. >> i don't know who came. maybe it was grant. it was grant. i think johnson came. >> had the mountain named after him? >> yes. well he was quite famous. ulysses s grant. and then after ulysses s grant came chester b, i don't remember. i can't do this. >> mckinley b arthur. what? from the mckinley. >> mckinley is. >> mckinley is. >> that's the mountain i'm speaking of. >> yeah, they've changed the name of that. have changed the name of that. have changed the name about. you're looking great, simon. isn't simon looking good looking? >> steve, we have the telegraph now. and why die? must die . nice. >> why even woke companies? their words had lie—in. because the last time i said the word woke on this show that hate for hate thing tweeted about me. and they're turning their backs on air snake oil. more bosses are pulling out of this pulling the handbrake on the costly and inconclusive diversity initiatives. the whole article goesin initiatives. the whole article goes in heavy criticising snake oil. you wait till you get a squeaky snake, but the quick

take on this is, unsurprisingly, money. they thought it would earn them some money by having a wider base of people to employ from, and making people think, oh, aren't they a good company? it's not showing up in the budgets. so they're cutting it. and we actually said this, i think you were hosting there was a story about a birmingham nhs trust hiring for 80 k, a diversity operative or officer . diversity operative or officer. and i said, if you've got that many managers, just get the managers to do it. if you think it's that important. and that's literally what people are doing now, i was i solved this problem. well done. you're welcome. >> i heard somebody i was on the news quiz on radio four this week with another comedian who said, who had a whole list of things that, you know, he goes before that it was called that before that it was called that. before that it was called that . and then it was political correctness, and before it was political correctness, it went all the back and it was witchcraft. and the implication was that these were all bogeymen of the right of the imagination. but di absolutely is not that right? di has, i mean , jobs have right? di has, i mean, jobs have been advertised in the guardian for a couple of years now. di

officer 148 grand to work for birmingham city council is not just is not some kind of figment of our imagination. just is not some kind of figment of our imagination . no, this has of our imagination. no, this has been an absolute lunacy that has swept through the industry. >> and i don't think i don't think it's lunacy. i think i think it's lunacy. i think i think that's just that the di people who are working there is just a small percentage of how much, you know , these are we're much, you know, these are we're coming into bad times, number one and number two, number two, who wants to hire somebody who who wants to hire somebody who who has purple hair and like, you know, think coming out and has tattoos in their faces. it's bad enough. >> well, people people with purple hair want to hire those people. that's the trouble. once you get a few of them in the office, they start to exponential. >> and so the only way to do thatis >> and so the only way to do that is to set fire to the to the entire place . the entire place. >> you may be right. lewis, over to birmingham , which i to birmingham, which i referenced in a sort of allegorical tense there. yeah, but we are actually in birmingham now with the guardian , and tiktok lawyer has been overheard uttering casually misogynist remarks on a private podcast. and this to be fair,

was a couple of months ago. i mean, i'm sure. yeah. >> so we should we should forget about it. this is this guy. his name is ahmed ahmed ahmed ahmed yaqoob, or basically al jacobs is what is rafe? it was like al jacobs. ahmed. there's two there's two names anyway, and 15. and so he so this is the muslim women's network made charges that were basically accused him of being anti feminist because he suggested hitting his wife if she acted up . and she said that if you go to hell, 70% of hell is going to be women. and i thought, that's far too low. and that's what i thought, i thought, but this is this is the future that we live in. this isn't this isn't one quy- in. this isn't this isn't one guy. he apologised because he wants to be the watchman and he wants to be the watchman and he wants to be he wants to be a councillor from. >> yeah, i think he may even be standing his mp. in fact, mp and anyway what do we care? >> but because his . but anyway what do we care? >> but because his. but i think he's concerned because he's his whole campaign is centred for support for gaza. and we know how strongly the gazans are when

it comes to feminist issues. and carry for women's rights. we know those things don't fly with. >> i like the way, as you say, that it's the muslim women's network that has picked him up on this. yes, this is a they kept keeping it very kind of internal. right. >> this is i don't know, i think i think when the women's women, when muslim women are speaking out against this, i think it's kind of strong. >> what do you think, steve? you got a point. >> yeah. the first note that i wrote down was don't give louis this story. he'll just agree with him. so that. right. boom, it's the distraction . it's it's the distraction. it's a shame, by the way, that we can't say. the ward, the area you're standing in, because it's quite funny to do with the fact that it's women that he's talking, but we don't say it because you'd have to list all the candidates. google is a joke in there. women oak the effectively there. women oak the effectively the distraction is he's calling this a distraction, saying people are accusing me of this as some form of distraction. it's all about the children in gaza. what in a uk election? i think you're the distracting one. absolutely. >> that's part three in the bag. coming up in the final section, we have in the loo. the of the plunge pool not

welcome back to headliners. so steve, the time now to kick off our final section. and i wish you well in explaining why there are some picasso's in a toilet in hobart. >> yeah, you're right, it's tricky. picasso works moved to toilet in women's rights row. the museum of old and new art in australia installed the works in the lavatory . i thought i saw the lavatory. i thought i saw the lavatory. i thought i saw the headline, i thought, well, this would be. you know, picasso is now known for being not that friendly to women. i bet they put him in the toilet some sort of protest. totally the other way around. the museum had an exhibition that was only available to women, only open to women . some bloke turns up women. some bloke turns up there, pays to get in the museum, finds out there's a room he can't go into, and suz o suz successfully because turns out it's against the law to discriminate against based on sex, not men. bad women good. which is what some people want the law to be, which is why they've now moved the artwork to

they've now moved the artwork to the toilet. because you can say men can't go in a toilet. so that's still artwork that men are allowed to see. and it's because the woman who runs the museum said that, women have suffered such hardship for so many years that men should have to suffer. now, by the way, if this is the only reparation you want, fill your stylish boots. >> but this isn't anything to do with picasso's intention. it's nothing to do with the artwork being particularly provocative to men or anything. >> no, this is making men suffer because women have suffered. so there should be a museum that we can't see. one of the works of art, by the way, is luncheon on the grass after manet, which is the grass after manet, which is the cubist, many subversive , the cubist, many subversive, fractured retellings of a previous work. if that's the one i can't see. oh, no, i can't see it.— i can't see. oh, no, i can't see it. oh, are we settled now? yeah, as long as it's all done. >> it is interesting what you say about him having a reputation for being misogynist, particularly because that reputation has been elevated or profiled recently by a tasmanian comedian, isn't it? what's her name ? nanette, was the show what name? nanette, was the show what was the, you know , the one? was the, you know, the one? i mean, i know what you mean.

>> yeah, that's her name, hannah gadsby. >> i mean, my, that's very good. hannah gadsby is coming. where is . is. >> where is hobart? >> where is hobart? >> hobart is tasmania. is it tasmania? >> yeah. so this is this is like the this is where she comes from. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it's the pet project of the wife of a billionaire. the billionaire said, you know, i know you want to be busy here. here's money open up this museum. and she opened up the museum. and she opened up the museum and she says, you know what? how can i get attention? i'm guessing this is what it is. i'm guessing this is what it is. i'm going to open it up just for women. and then they. and so this is all a game. all you got to do is go there and say, i'm a woman and they will let you in. that's that's amazing, to be honest there. >> you know, that would square the circle quite nicely in terms of picasso's . anyway, we get on of picasso's. anyway, we get on to your territory finally . louis to your territory finally. louis contentious in extreme health. health measures. >> yeah . oh, this is good news. >> yeah. oh, this is good news. good news. the truth about cold water therapy experts reveal exposure risks, panic , weak exposure risks, panic, weak limbs and even cardiac arrest. this is this is saying don't jump this is this is saying don't jump and don't take ice baths like this guy wim hof. i don't know you've been following the

guy, but he's telling people to take ice baths. but the truth is, you should never stress your body. is, you should never stress your body . exercise is is, you should never stress your body. exercise is bad for you. ice cold baths are bad for you. anything that is stressful is bad for you. you try to live. why do i look so great at my age ? i'm 67 years old. look at how great i never plunged because i never plunged and i don't exercise. you should stop exercise, i do. >> i mean, wim hof is interesting as a as a freak of nature himself, he swum like several hundred metres under ice capsin several hundred metres under ice caps in the arctic sea and that sort of thing. it doesn't necessarily extrapolate, does it, that everyone's going to benefit from this stuff. >> even he's not benefiting. and his problem was he he he lost his problem was he he he lost his wife when she was young. it was really tragic . oh okay. and was really tragic. oh okay. and he's like he's like deathly depressed . and that's what he's depressed. and that's what he's doing. he's trying to commit suicide. wow. >> i didn't know that. yeah. that's interesting. >> i saw i saw a youtube video about it. do not i don't mean to interrupt you, but there is that other guy. >> is it huberman who does very successful sort of body hack stuff ? he says cold exposure.

stuff? he says cold exposure. but you don't need to, like, you know, go full wim hof. just a cold shower. 90s. >> even that's not good for you. it says 59 degrees or 15 c. >> yeah, but i can't afford my heating bills, so i've had to start doing this. not for the health implications, i just can't afford it. but you get a lot of people who are. they want the attention. they'll come up with some fake thing. they'll deny science. they'll say that they know what's healthy for you, and somehow they get booked on headliners anyway. so i have a little bit of sympathy for him because, you know, he's carved out a little bit of a, you know, he's created quite a profile out of a fairly straightforward, some would say, of something that doesn't work. >> people , it doesn't work. he's >> people, it doesn't work. he's got all these young kids following him to have such a narrow focus. >> if you want to make it. yes. haven't you. yes we've got time for one last mini story. 20s on this, steve. the daily mail, biden family finances. >> i'll try and make it quick. then they've been using their delaware house for fast cash refinancing 20 times, but if you look at the amount that's owed on it, yes, they borrowed 4.2

million. but there's , just 0.5 million. but there's, just 0.5 million. but there's, just 0.5 million owed. so most of it's been repaid. the story makes it look like there are 20 concurrent mortgages. it's not fix. >> it's just an extraordinary . >> it's just an extraordinary. they've used the house as an atm. there's nothing illegal about it, but it's just a little bit odd. >> bear in mind that trump is the one who's also done. >> no, this has nothing to do with show is nearly over. >> let's take another quick look at tuesday's front pages. we have the daily mail obsessed holly fan plotted rape and murder the telegraph scotland yard leaked names in tory betting scandal. the guardian low wage growth has pushed 900,000 children into poverty i news tories and labour refused to rule out ten tax rises as ifs urges leaders to come clean the metro dungeon plot to kidnap tv's holly. and finally, the mirror guards plot to kidnap, rape and kill holly. that's all we have time for. my thanks to my guests steve and louis. i'll be back tomorrow at 11 pm. with josh howie and leo kearse. if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise,

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well . good evening and welcome well. good evening and welcome to vote 2024. the people decide with me. camilla tominey coming up on tonight's show. it's war this time between nigel farage and boris johnson over putin and his invasion of ukraine. we're also going to be discussing the idea of there being no brexit renegotiation without free movement. that's what michel barnier has said today. we'll get the reaction from michael heseltine and the labours trans

school policy has caused a row. they're saying they will rip up those guidelines for teachers . those guidelines for teachers. later in the show, we'll also be joined by northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris to react to the latest on the campaign trail. with just ten days to go until britain heads to the polls. and as always, get in touch with your thoughts on tonight's topics by visiting gbnews.com. forward slash your survey. but first, here's the news with polly middlehurst . news with polly middlehurst. >> camilla, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that britain's next government will face big decisions on taxes and the size of the state, according to the institute for fiscal studies today. unveiling its analysis of

the major parties manifestos, the major parties manifestos, the think tank accused both labour and the conservatives of maintaining a conspiracy of silence on their spending plans. but rishi sunak insisted tax cuts under the tories are possible with his government funding them by spending less on welfare . welfare. >> we have a fully costed manifesto which can deliver tax cuts for people at every stage in their lives, and that is largely funded by making sure that we can find some savings in the growth of the welfare budget, because it's been growing at unsustainable levels since the pandemic, we've set out a very clear plan to reform that, to support people into work. and in fact, the institute of fiscal studies acknowledged that last time around, when they said that that wasn't possible , said that that wasn't possible, that it was actually delivered. and that's something that the institute of fiscal studies themselves have said. >> rishi sunak well, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, rejected the institute's analysis altogether , insisting analysis altogether, insisting that britain could do better. >> don't accept the forecasts that say we can't do better than this . the economy has flatlined

this. the economy has flatlined for 14 years. that's exactly