win and it would be the largest win by any political party over the last 100 years. meanwhile labour has confirmed tonight that a party member has been arrested in islington in london. it follows a police investigation into the sixteen scam concerning some westminster mps. the police investigation relates to at least 12 men who had received unsolicited text messages in the so—called honeytrap scandal. labour says it has administratively suspended the member from the party and cannot comment further due to the ongoing police investigation . ongoing police investigation. now the shadow health secretary, wes streeting, has maintained his position that a 35% pay rise for junior doctors is a non—starter. but he says he will reopen talks with the bma if labour wins the general election. meanwhile, nhs leaders are warning of major disruption as a result of the combination of the walkouts and the current

heatwave. it will be the 11th walkout by junior doctors from the british medical medical association in england. yellow heat health alerts were in place across the country today and are due to end at 5 pm. tomorrow and just lastly, phil foden has left england's euro 2024 camp to return home for the birth of his third child. it's hoped the manchester city midfielder will be back in time for sunday's last 16 clash in germany. he started all three of england's group c matches as gareth southgate's side advanced by finishing top of the group, and we face slovenia on sunday. that's the news for the latest stories , sign up to gb news stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com/alerts .

gbnews.com/alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm andrew doyle and joining me tonight are the headliners a team? it's ba curse and mr nick t i think that's accurate. isn't it crazy fool. see? there you go. racist. what about you? how are you? i always like murdoch. >> he was the wacky one, wasn't he? >> yeah, he was the one who was scared of flying or something. >> no, no, ba was scared of flying. >> he was when he flew. ba was scared of flying. yeah, that was his one weakness. >> murdoch was neurodivergent. we'd say. >> now like me. yeah. >> now like me. yeah. >> yes. he'd be quite fashionable now . okay, well, fashionable now. okay, well, look, we're going to first have a look at thursday's front pages before we dive in. well, the times are leading with sunak rams home tax message in final debate. the daily mail. you were taking people for fools. the financial times has got french far right leader vows to fight a cultural battle against islamism and the mirror holli kidnap kit . and the mirror holli kidnap kit. the i has got revealed russian hackers behind nhs attack are part of cyber army protected by

the kremlin and the daily star. something about football and sleeping. those were your front pages. >> all right, so we're going to kick off with thursday's daily mail . mail. >> leo, you have the details. >> leo, you have the details. >> so the mail leads on the debate. >> the spat between starmer and sunak as spat. >> it was a televised debate. >> it was a televised debate. >> televised debate. yeah, yeah , >> televised debate. yeah, yeah, but they had a bit of a spat. >> i could see barney in a car park , a little bit bevvies. park, a little bit bevvies. >> it was a bit like that. >> it was a bit like that. >> well , >> it was a bit like that. >> well, sunak doesn't drink. >> well, sunak doesn't drink. >> it would be a better way to settle to find out who's going to be the next leader, i think. yeah. so rishi is furious. blast at starmer. you are taking people for fools. so sunak slams the labour leader's nonsensical plans to tackle illegal migration in tv debate and tells voters not to surrender our borders to keir's party. i mean , borders to keir's party. i mean, this would all be, really valid points and make a lot of sense if sunak hadn't already surrendered our borders to illegal immigration. i mean, since sunak took, since sunak took, took power , which isn't

took, took power, which isn't that long ago because the tory party tend to go through a lot of leaders since he took power, there have been 50,000 cross—channel migrants. and it's andifs cross—channel migrants. and it's and it's climbing by hundreds every day. >> but the question is, did keir starmer in the televised debate, which i haven't seen, i'll be honest, did he, hit back at this and make the precisely the same points that you are now making? >> i don't think he did. >> i don't think he did. >> he didn't do that. well, this was sunak's best moment. i tried to listen to it while also preparing for this. i have to say, this was sunak's best moment, probably of the whole campaign, possibly of his whole tenure. really? why is that? well, because he actually shows some passion and he made a great point to starmer. he said, what are you going to do? negotiate with iran? syria afghanistan? you're going to negotiate with the taliban? and he pointed out that starmer has no plan on immigration. he's got his rwanda plan , which may be flawed, but plan, which may be flawed, but he's saying, what are you going to do? you're going to negotiate with the taliban . and so it was with the taliban. and so it was a good point, and he delivered it strongly and actually got a round of applause. and mostly, you know, rishi just far too you know, rishi is just far too nice and bland, isn't he. >> well, he's that the point that now that he knows he's on the way out or thinks he's on the way out or thinks he's on the way out or thinks he's on the way out, he can just do whatever. he can roll with it. i mean, look, you are taking people for fools. that's almost

trash talk. yeah, almost trash talk. yeah, it's almost like going down mamajama like you're going down mamajama whatever they say. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah, absolutely. and i mean, you can see really on this particular issue , the tories particular issue, the tories don't want mass immigration. they don't want , you know, they don't want, you know, illegal migration, whereas labour obviously do. and they're committed. they're fully on board with critical race theory and all the horrific, you know, social justice ideology. but regardless of who you get , regardless of who you get, you're probably going to get the same number of people coming over the channel because, you know, the tories are completely ineffectual at stopping it and labour want it, but it's the same, same number of people come here. >> that was rishi sunak lie—in under labour. you're going to need a bigger boat like jaws. yeah, it's quite funny. and the problem is it is true because presumably because storm is going to scrap rwanda , the home going to scrap rwanda, the home office have already quietly shelving it. obviously it's not going to happen is if rishi loses. yeah. so that is going to be more and more boats. >> no you're right, it's probably going to be the same either way. but i'm just very interested the way that politicians, when they're on their way or leave, their way out or they leave, they something different. they become something different. they beat. they become a different beat. i mean, became more mean, liz truss became very more sassy afterwards. i don't know if sassy. we need more sass, but

you know what i mean. they sort of changed too late and you find out who they really are. >> yeah, yeah. and he actually missed an opportunity on liz truss because starmer criticised rishi for backing truss . rishi rishi for backing truss. rishi said as you know i was against her economic plan. he's like well why did you back her? and he missed an open goal to say why did you back corbyn then? and the moderator had to say at starmer and got a round of applause. and that's when i realised they're both rubbish at debate, because that was an open goal >> that is an open goal. absolutely. okay, well let's move on to the front cover of thursday's times. nick, what are they running with? >> the times has labour party member arrested over honeytrap scandal? and this was the same story involving william wragg a while ago. but now people are sort of shocked that a labour member has been identified. and so it becomes not a political football against the tories anymore. yeah. this was this thing where there was these people claiming to be called charlie or abby, and they were sending flirtatious messages and obviously normal people ignore them. but if you're a politician, you just send pictures of your genitalia. that's just how it works. i'm not saying this person did. we don't know much about this person, but that's just how it works. when i'm lonely, i just works. when i'm lonely, ijust rewatch succession. but politicians are very different. >> you just bat away all the

flirtatious messages that you continually get. >> it's hard, but you know you have to do it. andrew and so labour suspended them. as we know, starmer loves suspending people. he always , he always i people. he always, he always i always get rid of them. so he suspended him and that's i'm not prepared to say too much more because i don't understand the legality of it. but stay away from honey. i mean, honey is just like it's always a trap . absolutely. >> it's always suspicious if a woman's interested in you. yes. that's. you know, that's the first thing. yeah. that always sets my autistic alarm bells. >> a man is normal singing. yeah, i've seen you on the telly. you get a lot of men. yeah. they text you, they've seen your jackets and they just, they just put two and two together. >> trust anyone who's attracted to you, particularly if you're politician. >> it's interesting that this person is being , possibly being person is being, possibly being charged under the online safety act because i think when the online safety act was brought through, it wasn't sold to us as a way of shutting down citizen journalism. and, you know, because there's a legitimate, cause to, to present yourself as the wrong person. we've seen it in america a lot with james o'keefe and project veritas. yeah, but he's not entrapment. >> leo. >> leo. >> this. yeah

>> this. yeah >> sending messages just deliberately to get a politician in trouble. >> yeah, yeah, well, to get them to engage in flirtatious, flirtatious, flirtatious messages, it's it could be exposing the venality of that politician. >> leo is in favour of it. his favourite thing to do. >> it sounds like you are. >> it sounds like you are. >> yeah. no i think i think there is a, you know, it's like. >> it's like borat . it's like >> it's like borat. it's like pretending to be something you're not to draw out, to draw out certain behaviours. >> it's not, it's not like borat comedy comedy character. >> this is the labour party. they're a comedy. >> it's funny, but it's not like borat. okay. >> that's funny. all right, let's move on to the financial times. leo, we don't normally cover them. yeah yeah. are they up to it? they normally talk about graphs and stuff. yeah, they normally have bad news, but they've got some. >> they've got some good news this time. so the french far right leader vows to fight a cultural battle against islamism. >> actually a far right leader. or is it just what they're calling a. >> this is this is what i was going to say. i mean, to me, he's, he's he's centrist and sensible . sensible. >> who are they talking about?

>> who are they talking about? >> me. he's far left. >> me. he's far left. >> so this is jordan bardella. >> so this is jordan bardella. >> so this is jordan bardella. >> so he's a marine. le pen's national rally, he's the he's the potential. he's young , isn't the potential. he's young, isn't he? he's young, 28 years old. >> i mean, i think that frankly don't care about. right. and left too young. >> but i mean they've had macron so they're used to there's a precedent for having you know, as long as there's, he's had a very old wife. yeah. if his wife is 80 years old to to, balance it out and like met him when he was, when he was at pre—school or whatever, like macron's wife . or whatever, like macron's wife. but, but yeah, this is i mean, it's interesting that he's, he's being so, sort of vociferous when he's going into the election. it shows the confidence that the national rally have, and it shows the complete shift that we've seen across europe. and note that he's saying islamism, a lot of people, the guardian are going to be saying, oh, this is racist. this isn't even against islam. this is against islamism, this is islamism. >> that's fine. >> that's fine. >> this is against the sort of, you know, aggressive, militaristic , political, militaristic, political, politicised islam. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think everyone understands the distinction. i don't, you know, i don't think that could be said to be racist. >> well, today , i mean, most >> well, today, i mean, most people pretend not to for

political points , but, well, political points, but, well, look, this is interesting, though, isn't it, nick? >> i mean, the point is , this >> i mean, the point is, this has become the major issue in france now, or at least one of the major issues. i mean, it is looking like the le pen legacy might not be the stigma that it once was, right? >> no, they're seen as more moderate. well many people seem not clear the financial times, but many see them as sort of centre right now. yeah. and she's got this sort of new guy, bardella, who's only 28, as you say, and he's saying the veil is not desirable in french society. so in france, this is more there's more of a tradition as well, of secularism. right? they try to secularise everything. they don't go for the multi—faith thing so much. they're more like , just put all they're more like, just put all your religions away because they say to you, they call it it's their thing. say to you, they call it it's theirthing. it's say to you, they call it it's their thing. it's their thing. there you go. so in that sense, it's less controversial. obviously, we'll still be seen as controversial. i notice he's also saying take back control of immigration. so he's borrowed a useful slogan there that's worked in the past. yeah. >> can you clear something up for me? what what is macron playing at with this election? because it is it does seem to be shooting himself in the foot. >> it's a gamble and it's a really misjudged one to be honest. i mean he kind of had to because they performed so badly

in the, in the european elections. yeah. so you know, he had to, you know, possibly rush to an election to, to really, you know, shock the public because people can vote, you know, in any direction in local or european elections. but in national elections people tend to vote more sensibly and conservatively. so he must have thought, you know, well, you know, they've delivered this, this protest vote. but so you don't think it's the idea? >> i mean, i've heard it theorised that he knows that le pen will win. and then once she's been in or her party is in charge for a while and everything falls apart, everyone will say, oh, wasn't macron great? let's get that guy back. >> is that not it? >> is that not it? >> well, it's similar to the most fun theory i've heard is that he's he's done. he thinks france is ungovernable and he just wants to go and take a sort of un job or whatever, nato, whatever makes more sense, like sunak. yeah. yeah, pretty much. yeah. he's going to probably work with sunak . stop, start an work with sunak. stop, start an it start—up or something. yeah that actually makes sense. >> good. good luck . manuel. >> good. good luck. manuel. okay, let's move on to the star. nick. this football thing. >> yeah, it's a snoozing fan . i >> yeah, it's a snoozing fan. i had a lovely dream. england were winning, and then i woke up. so

it's a satirical comment, andrew, on the very boring game against slovenia. it was nil nil. it was. was it. did you watch it? i did watch it. it was painfully boring and i wanted to play painfully boring and i wanted to play football instead. but the people wouldn't play. so i just watched this boring game. >> did you fall asleep? >> did you fall asleep? >> so i didn't fall asleep, but it was very bad. and you know , it was very bad. and you know, we still won the group, so it sort of doesn't matter. but people are saying southgate's very boring and there's all these comments about him. he, he gets planning permission to build a sandcastle. he wears a helmet on his peloton. there's all these things and i do understand that it's not his fault that the well, the idea is he's the manager, right? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but the idea is the team. he picks the system, he plays, he put them on unicycles or something. >> he could make it more interesting. he could have. >> he could have a lot more aggressive style of exciting style of play. but he's locked out because through the quirks of the system, we've ended up getting slovakia in the next round, which is one of the easiest draws we could have got. i'm not saying we'll necessarily win, but we could have got germany. we could have got holland. >> well, maybe that was the strategy. >> it could have been a strategy, but almost impossible to work out because it depends on mathematical . he'd have to be on mathematical. he'd have to be rainman to have worked it out and know the future, right? >> i mean, i know you're a big football fan. there are , you

football fan. there are, you know. no you're not. football is really boring. it was one or the other. >> but i think they need to bnng >> but i think they need to bring back football hooliganism . bring back football hooliganism. that was always interesting and fun to watch. you wouldn't fall asleep then , would you? you asleep then, would you? you wouldn't fall asleep then. and also that means you're keeping a sort of a patriotic army going in russia. in russia, they literally the state trains, the hooligans. that's how they understand. >> you want it to be more like ice hockey, isn't it? where every now and then they just break and beat each other up, or every now and then they break and then start playing ice hockey? yeah, yeah . which of hockey? yeah, yeah. which of course is the right way to look at it. okay. that's all we got time for in this section, those are the front pages brilliantly critiqued. and the class act continues into the next section with labour migrants, labour net and, rishi sunak. anyway,

welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at thursday's newspapers. so, leo, let's start with thursday's guardian. labour has a plan to get more votes. yes. >> so labour are going to bring in automatic voter registration under plans to boost franchise , under plans to boost franchise, not the labour franchise, but the sort of election franchise. i don't know why they call it a franchise. you can't buy a burger at it, but currently people in the uk need to register if they're going to be able to vote. so under automatic registration, they they dive into other sources of data and, you know, peer through your bins and then automatically add you to the electoral roll and send you your voting card. i think this is, i think voters should be motivated enough to, to, to

vote, what to do with themselves, to register themselves, to register themselves, to register themselves, to do it themselves. it says here an estimated 7 to 8 million people are missing or incorrectly recorded on current voting registers, and a lot of them are young and a lot of them are poorer or living in privately rented homes. so these are this is obviously a demographic young people, poor people, they're going to vote laboun >> is it that cynical that, you know, or is it just a sort of a really pro—democratic gesture? you know, we want as many people to be registered as possible. >> well, if jacob rees—mogg came through and suggested a new measure where you had to have a gold sovereign to be able to vote, you know what i mean? people would say, well, that's that's bad. you're just you're you're a bad idea, though. it's. yeah, i think well, in the old days, i think it was just landowners who could vote. and that's when britain was great. so why don't we go back to that? >> yes, i would go back to minimum age 30 or over and owning property and mail. >> wasn't william pitt the younger younger than 30? >> i don't know about history. i went to a comprehensive, but although i did get the third highest grade in the country

history a—level, i don't know. i'm a product of the modern education system. i don't know who that is. tell me about this. >> i mean, like labour are labour are desperately trying to get the young the vote. yeah. and you know, that's what probably what this is about. but they're also going to lower the voting age right. >> yeah. yeah. but i mean yes they obviously think people are going to vote for them. it's the young men are increasingly right wing. but on average still young women are definitely not. and on average young men are still more work than old men. so it's all relative. so this probably will benefit labour. i think the whole labour project is going to be about changing things so that the right or the populists or conservatives can never take power again, and this will just be one of many measures. >> i think it's a bad idea to try and predict that they don't know what the next generation is going to be. you know, there's some pretty right wing embryos being gestated at the moment. you know, if you look at it, i was talking to eric gordon about it. >> he's crunched all the data and still it doesn't look good. it looks like it just does move leftwards. so i think they probably are smart to do this. >> and it's going to be like you say, like it's going to be a split with gender. yes. because because young girls are skewing more left wing and the young boys are all going to the right.

>> yeah, i think that could change, though. i mean, in europe the young are quite pro right wing. in fact, the afd, i think their biggest voting bloc is, is young people. right, you know, there's a lot of memes going around that. yeah. convince young people to i mean, right wing people are just better at memeing. yeah. >> i'd like to think it's going that way. but apparently if you really look at the data still in terms of free speech and things, it's still the moving, trending very much against it in terms of when how people answer questions like, should someone be able to have a different view on gender or these kind of things? and should they even be allowed to speak at a university? lots of young people say , no, you young people say, no, you shouldn't even be allowed to speak if you've got the wrong views. >> so we'll see, because i mean, new generations often react against the previous one. let's hope, you know, maybe labour should well be careful what you wish for, i think might be the phrase, okay, we're going to move on to the independent now. and a bit of a spat with rishi sunak. what's this? >> yeah. rishi sunak brands david tennant, the problem in trans rights row with kemi badenoch . now it's a bit of a badenoch. now it's a bit of a tncky badenoch. now it's a bit of a tricky headline because really you just put out a tweet saying

freedom of speech is the most powerful feature of our democracy. if you're calling for women to shut up and wishing they didn't exist, you are the problem. so. so he was give us the background, i will he was doing it reverse like an interesting movie. he was he was pretty much calling him the problem . so david tennant did problem. so david tennant did this appalling speech, frankly, where he said that, kemi people like kemi badenoch, he wished they didn't exist. he said i until we wake up and kemi badenoch doesn't exist anymore, then he sort of correct himself, said, i don't wish ill of her, i just wish her to shut up, which is an appalling thing to say. he's sort of trying to be funny, wasn't he? to be fair, not really. >> even amongst got a big cheer in the room. all these luvvies were like, yes, get a laugh . were like, yes, get a laugh. >> yes, kill, kill these people. kill tories, even amongst actors, he stands out as particularly annoying, which is a heck of an achievement. >> so it was very it was awful then his. but my critique is also of kemi's response because she responded and said she talked about tennant being a she said i will not show up, which is fair enough. i will not be silenced by men who prioritise applause from stonewall over the safety of women and girls. but then, she said, a rich leftie white male celebrity so blinded

by ideology he can't see the opfics by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government. and this is where she lost me, because then, of course, she engagedin because then, of course, she engaged in identity politics. some say she was just doing using the left's rhetoric against him. yeah, i don't particularly believe that. >> well , it does, it's quite >> well, it does, it's quite effective, you know, because in that whole sort of intersectional identity politics world that david tennant inhabits, it's a terrible look for a white man to say that a black woman shouldn't exist. i mean, it's one of the worst things. so by mentioning it in a way, she is being kind of smart. it is using their weapons against them. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what she's doing . she's doing. >> i'd agree with that. and also i'd say, you know, david tennant obviously has to cling to kemi being wrong and gender ideology being wrong and gender ideology being correct because he's, you know, this was all about this is the lgbt awards. he was getting an award for celebrity ally celebrity ally and yeah. and basically david tennant has got a trans kid apparently . so he a trans kid apparently. so he needs gender ideology to be correct . he like this, you know, correct. he like this, you know, as this as this religion disappears into the ocean on the back of the cass review, like he desperately needs it. like there's no way you can be like

ten years in the future and be like, oh my god , like we like, oh my god, like we transitioned our kids. i know this was a terrible mistake. it's got to be the right. >> and also, you know, it's been particularly him coming from doctor who, which has been so infected with this stuff. i mean, there's that scene where he gets corrected for misgendering an alien. yes, he gets corrected by his assistant saying, how dare you assume this alien's pronouns? and he asks the meep what pronouns the meep goes by, and the meep says, i go by the definite article the as in the meep. it's so much worse than i could even have imagined. >> and i actually see that clip i'm like, it's like a weird pubuc i'm like, it's like a weird public service broadcaster idiocy. >> it feels like the doctor who team were in the writing room, and this high priest of intersectionality came and said, put a line of my scripture into your script. it's so shoehorned in, it's so bad. >> and they just wanted to write about daleks and they're like, no, no, this one's about pronouns. again pronouns with aliens, but, you know, good, good on rishi for sort of sticking up for kemi. >> yes, but what else are you going to do anyway? the telegraph now, leo and labour

wants reform to do well all across the uk. yeah. >> so labour will make every uk borough take its fair share of migrants , says angela rayner. i migrants, says angela rayner. i mean, i'd have thought the fair share of migrants would be none, but. but yeah, the party's deputy leader, angela rayner, said that successful asylum seekers would be eligible for places in the 1.5 million new social houses being built that labour are planning to build right across the country. and they say that, you know, they're going to put asylum seekers in these buildings right across the country, spread them out across different, different councils talking about asylum seekers rather than economic migrants. >> here are we? >> here are we? >> well, i mean, basically it's an open secret that the asylum system is now a route for economic migrants. i mean , economic migrants. i mean, unless they're leaving the eu would support asylum people seeking asylum from danger. >> i wouldn't come into the country. >> why do you stay in your country? >> make it better. the whole asylum system is basically a sort of anti civilizational migration system. it's like if you if you come from a country where, you know, the culture

doesn't support, a civilisation and instead people just, you know, the form armies and kill each other all the time or whatever. so it's a, you know, it's a like afghanistan for example. so if you come from somewhere like that, people don't the culture doesn't evaporate when they when they step foot in the uk, like, i mean, historically, people seeking asylum have been grateful for the host nations that have taken them. >> yeah , but those have been >> yeah, but those have been genuine and assimilated. >> those have been genuine asylum seekers. and i think people have been, you know, from much more culturally assimilable places in the past. >> but we do have to, nick, basically accept that a vast preponderance of those coming over at the moment in the small boats are, in fact, economic migrants. is that not the case? yeah. >> i mean , it's such a labour >> i mean, it's such a labour idea to equally distribute migrants, isn't it? i mean, it's the socialism of migrant distribution. i mean, i would just say stick them in london because even though i live here, london's lost already. so let's just take the hit, because when you put like suddenly dump a load of people in, in a small village or something, i don't know, it's just too outrageous to say it just completely changes the community and it's

just not workable. so i think the idea of equally distributing them is bizarre. i mean, she's talking about, you know, they're in hotels and that's costing the taxpayer and they'll they'll sort of process the backlog and all this kind of thing. but i'm sort of with rishi on this, which i rarely say that actually. it's just going to get much worse under labour. and that's why that was his strongest moment in the debate , strongest moment in the debate, although even starmer said that people he's going to send people back to bangladesh, you see that he was almost he was saying send them back. >> it was a racist . >> it was a racist. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> oh my god, that's disgusting. we need we need to have that is a bad choice of words okay. >> we're going to finally end this section with the telegraph zero, net zero. what's this about? well it's a it's a crazy scheme, andrew, to cut emissions. >> is this for me? labour's net zero target could cost hundreds of billions. leaked audio reveals. now, this is a guy called darren jones, the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, who was caught in a different kind of honey trap. he was caught on a leaked audio talking about how much it would cost . about how much it would cost. and, you know, there was this 28 billion figure that got rolled back and then there was this 4.7 billion. but he said he said even 28 billion was tiny. he

said, oh no, it's tiny. hundreds of billions of pounds is what we need. so the accusation is that actually labour, as i've already said in earlier stories, are actually going to do radical net zero things once they get in and they're going to cost hundreds of billions and they're just not telling you , because why would telling you, because why would they tell you about their evil schemes and why do these audios always leak? >> why do the whatsapps always leak? i mean, what's the point? >> i think if it's if it's something as , as, you know, jaw something as, as, you know, jaw dropping as this, you know, there's going to be somebody in that whatsapp chat is going to be like, whoa, the citizens need to know before they condemn themselves to this horrific communist, nihilistic. you're not a fan. >> he was talking to a journalist, wasn't he? have you heard the recording? it's not a whatsapp chat. he was talking to a journalist, and they just. i guess they've just recorded it. and, i don't know, journalists recorded something that a politician said. >> it's probably the first time, but my feeling is you don't trust labour's political profligacy. >> profligacy? >> profligacy? >> no . absolutely not. and we've >> no. absolutely not. and we've seen a lot of this net zero stuff rolled back in europe. it's weird that, you know, the european union was set up in, in the first instance to to, really

make sure we had enough food in europe so we didn't have to go back to rationing, didn't have to worry about importing food, and now instead , we're shutting and now instead, we're shutting down farms to try and hit crazy targets . targets. >> well, can i just point this out very quickly? i'm not sure if it was a journalist just so we don't all get sued, but it was a leaked audio. >> okay, it was definitely a leaked audio because that's in the headline. yeah. so it's definitely a leaked audio. >> i've listened to it. right. >> i've listened to it. right. >> okay. we are at the halfway point, but please do come back. we're going to be talking about angry kissing consent and flatulent bovines. you won't want to miss

welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at thursday's newspapers. we're going to kick off this section with the express albanian story. your favourite. nick. what's this? oh, yeah. >> this is fury in albania as locals slam italy for new migrant detention centres in their country. so there's this, deal between rama and meloni , deal between rama and meloni, andifs deal between rama and meloni, and it's that there's going to the italian authorities have created these centres to accommodate 36,000 people annually . accommodate 36,000 people annually. but the albanians aren't thrilled about this, saying it will deter tourists. but a lot of them are scared to criticise rama . that's the kind criticise rama. that's the kind of power you want, isn't it? and, but there's been a few protests. but rama is saying, well, we have a special relationship with italy, so we'll have to do it. so again, italy is trying to find solutions like anyone for the migrant problem, because meloni was seen as a bit of a traitor on the immigration thing, because she hasn't dealt with it as strongly as people wanted. but now they're doing things like this. >> what do you make of that, leo? because it is true that meloni had all these big ideas

about how to deal with this. and it was, you know, that's one of the reasons that she was elected . yeah. she hasn't really. >> yeah. i mean, maybe she's being stymied by a woke blob, a woke civil service that will refuse to will just down tools and refuse to enact any , any serious. >> do you think she was just saying the right things together? >> because you've got to be really mean if you want to stop, you know , illegal immigrants you know, illegal immigrants coming into europe, you've got to be mean. you've got to say , to be mean. you've got to say, no, you got to, you know, take them back. you got to pay a country to host them. yeah, so you know, people also have a blob. >> it's just called blob. blob. >> it'sjust called blob. blob a >> it's just called blob. blob a rino or something . el globo, el globo. >> yeah, but it's not quite like our civil service. >> but this solution, the solution that all parties seem to have. i remember rishi saying, oh, we've got rid of so many illegal immigrants. and what they've done was they just said they just ticked a box in their form that said, you're not illegal anymore, you can just stay. so this is the same sort of thing. they're going to have these processing centres, but then people will just get, you know, they'll just have somebody sitting there with a desk and a rubber stamp, and then they'll become legal . so it's not really become legal. so it's not really i think, you know, the people of europe are still going to continue getting disillusioned

with this situation . with this situation. >> okay. well, we're going to stick with the express. leo, what's racist now? >> oh yeah. so labour candidates have been blasted over social media posts which slam racist uk. so a labour candidate who called the royal family and winston churchill racist in social media posts has been condemned by her own party. i mean, it's nice to see a party other than the reform having its social media post dug through to see if they said anything. you know that somebody could find objectionable, though. >> so this candidate said that the royal family is racist. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> this is charisma griffiths. i mean , that's a great name, mean, that's a great name, charisma griffiths claimed that britain had only once in history been the good guys. >> so what time do you think that was? well i don't know, because, i mean, black people built britain and the initial british people were black. >> so . so she's being >> so. so she's being anti—black. she's a racist. she's an anti—black racist. >> you have to pick between does she mean world war two or ending slavery? only one of those was good there. but actually, if you're being really boring and fair later on in the article,

she actually said, talks about the war and said, because it's one of the only times britain was on the right side of history. so maybe. well, wait a minute. >> she's also saying winston churchill was racist. so presumably she thinks the second world war was two bodies of fascists fighting each other. maybe. >> i mean , she talks about the >> i mean, she talks about the things he did in africa and so on. i find that quite moderate for labour. i don't know why we're shocked. i mean, don't know, of course , about 80% of know, of course, about 80% of them think churchill was racist. that's like that's moderate now. and now it's all about whether you think israel should even exist. you know, that's the that's the frontier of the labour party. now, this is this is day one. this is kindergarten in the labour. >> because labour have said this doesn't reflect the labour party. but yes, nick says it absolutely does. they're, you know, totally infused with critical race theory and, you know, these crazy revisionist ideas. >> yeah. you would have thought for a political party that's about to be elected, they might want to be saying to the electorate, we like this country, you know , keir starmer country, you know, keir starmer was always pictured with the union jack flag, but as soon as the cameras stopped rolling, he lets the rest of the people just stamp on it and burn it and his party. >> and that's how he balances things out. >> i thought that's what happened. and you've got footage? >> yes, i have leaked audio. >> yes, i have leaked audio. >> we might indeed show that next time. okay. the times. now,

nick, when's this guy coming on your podcast? >> oh, yes. very, very clever . >> oh, yes. very, very clever. josh, who obviously wrote, this is, reform candidate leslie lily said he would slaughter migrants, so it's locker room talk. it's, it's just bants . talk. it's, it's just bants. it's just a joke, everyone. i'm using trump's famous. >> i mean, look , that is locker >> i mean, look, that is locker room talk. >> absolutely appalling. it was shocking stuff. >> obviously, i'm just making jokes as comedy show, but it's shocking stuff . yeah. he said he shocking stuff. yeah. he said he said some other things that are actually worse. he said border people take their families out. oh yeah. >> he said, this man is not this isn't good. >> no, no. he said he border force vessel should have razor wire to tear small boats carrying migrants around. look i wouldn't be like to be in a position of defending this . what position of defending this. what would farage would probably say? to be fair is it's they don't have the infrastructure to vet people. there was a snap election, so no one's managed to vet everyone. the deadline's passed, so you can't actually really get rid of people. and so, you know, the greens, all parties have the same problem.

the greens, some of them actually win elections. yeah. and scream things because i've heard you say in the past, nick, that you don't like it when they just ditch candidates. >> when activists complain. but this stuff is you can't run for election with this kind of stuff. i mean, this is terrible. this is pretty extreme. >> yeah. in general, yes. they're far too . they were far they're far too. they were far too ready to capitulate to activist groups. because you would agree. because those people act in bad faith . this is people act in bad faith. this is a level where it probably goes beyond the pale. yeah. >> well, i and that probably worries me. >> i mean, of course, surely. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> you would not expect to stand as a candidate if you said stuff like that. >> no, no, i probably wouldn't, it's one of the reasons i don't stand as a candidate, but because i think they'll think through everything you've ever said. >> take two minutes for leon. >> take two minutes for leon. >> but they probably just got my most recent tweet. yeah, exactly. but the thing is, i mean , you're getting these mean, you're getting these people, people like this are always attracted to parties such as reform because, you know, the you always get sort of nutters attracted to either side. so, you know, labour and the green party, the green party attracts, as nick says, it attracts all

kinds of communists and islamists and complete nutjobs. but for some reason, everybody glosses over that . you know, i glosses over that. you know, i think this is this is some old, old guy who's fantasising about world war ii and sitting his laptop. you know, i think, you know, we could maybe reform would have better candidates if people hadn't smeared reform right from the get go . maybe if right from the get go. maybe if people just let reform, you know, and accepted that actually the centre has shifted and reform is over other parties, green party or the anti—semitism, for instance, in the labour party, that's had a lot of publicity. the guardian literally write things about the. but the guardian are hugely influential and read by every civil servant, literally put on the bedroom wall of every civil servant is in a serious publication. >> it's an activist publication, which is, you know, just a wing of the labour party effectively. so, nick, this is bad. this is bad. this is very bad. >> yeah. these are shocking things to say. of course you can't be in a political party when you say things like this. yeah. the only time the only reason, i suppose we're sort of giving the broader picture is why what leo says that sort of they use this to target reform all the time. it's a bit

annoying. it does say all parties. >> you've got to have a good vetting, you've got to have good vetting. >> but but if we're being very realistic , do you think to be realistic, do you think to be very fair to reform or any party with a snap election when you don't have that much money behind you, is it possible to really vet everyone? >> no. and that is a fair point that maybe it couldn't have been donein that maybe it couldn't have been done in advance. >> and also , wouldn't it be >> and also, wouldn't it be funny to see this guy stand up in parliament? i mean, for the comedy value? >> okay, well, anyway, look, we're going to move on now to this male story, julian assange, what's this? >> so. >> so. >> oh , sorry. there was a joke >> oh, sorry. there was a joke there, which i didn't get in the autocue. that is a great story, though. >> julian assange free. yeah, i know we don't have it tonight, but it's a great thing. >> it is a great story, which i will be covering on free speech nafion will be covering on free speech nation this sunday. nice. nice segue to a plug there. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what's going on here? >> what's going on here? >> so kissing someone without tacit consent can be considered sexual assault. spain's supreme court has ruled just weeks before the former football federation chief, luis rubiales , federation chief, luis rubiales, will stand trial over his unsolicited kiss at the women's world cup. i don't know if you

remember this, but he he kissed in a moment of celebration, he kissed, i'm not sure what her name. hermoso. jenni. jenni. hermoso. yeah. was it captain of the women's football team? >> i saw the footage. it was, he was happy. >> yeah. so they were both happy. give her a give her a be happy. give her a give her a be happy. give her a give her a be happy. give her a peck on the on the football. give her a peck on peck on the lips. but you know, she she later decided that it was, she'd been sexually assaulted and is suing him. and he's now losing his home. so i'm sure all the feminists around the world will be delighted for some reason. i don't know, this is always stuff like this. like, you know, a politician puts his hand on a woman's leg, and that's everybody's like, oh, my god, me too. but then, like, grooming gangs , nobody says grooming gangs, nobody says anything about that. yeah, i mean, i don't understand it. >> i don't think it's right to kiss someone without their consent, and i don't. i think on reflection, surely he would have thought that was a mistake. he was obviously caught up in the euphona was obviously caught up in the euphoria of the moment, but to say that that was an attempt at sexual assault, i think is ridiculous. and the idea that he should lose his home as, yeah, i think it's just not, it's not really that humane. well, it says you need tacit consent. >> what does that even mean? i mean, think about it. how many times do you say to someone, can

i kiss you? the answer will usually that's usually be no, because that's just lame , isn't it? i mean, in just lame, isn't it? i mean, in most cases, that's not really how works, know? so how it works, you know? so i think this stuff's all about i mean, look at this. a stolen kiss . they're saying that that's kiss. they're saying that that's kind of it constitutes sexual assault now. and the court said it's clear that the fleeting contact of a non—consensual kiss represents a bodily invasion. it doesn't have quite the same poetry as this is the world we're entering into . you we're entering into. you shouldn't go around, obviously, randomly kissing people, but aren't we entering into a weird world of a sort of total state, monitoring all aspects of human behaviour in the president? >> they're using as a as a police officer kissing somebody who's in handcuffs, which isn't the same. that is definitely sexual assault . sexual assault. >> that's weird. >> that's weird. >> like, why have you handcuffed them? >> that's all we've got time for in this section. but do come back because we're going to be talking about obesity r , micro—cheating and robots. see you in a

welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's newspapers. we're going to kick off this section with the mail. and, leo, did you have a happy harassment day this year? >> yeah. fair enough. i do have a harassment day . it's a weekly a harassment day. it's a weekly thing for me, but, sending a birthday card to a colleague who wants it kept quiet could be considered harassment. harassment? a tribunal rules as an hmrc worker wins her employment case. >> okay, you're gonna have to talk us through this. yeah. >> so this conclusion came in the case of a tax worker who has successfully sued hmrc after bosses sent her a birthday card when she had said she didn't want a birthday card or didn't want a birthday card or didn't want anybody to recognise her birthday. this is canny tour ,

birthday. this is canny tour, who suffers from a pituitary gland tumour which is exacerbated by stress, so she's now in line for compensation after winning several claims of race and disability harassment and discrimination against the government department. >> this sounds like a grift. >> this sounds like a grift. >> oh, this is the public sector in a nutshell. nobody does any work. they all just work out ways that they can waste everybody's time and harass. and also it's horrible. the manager had basically had a list of all the staff with their birthdays next to it, and mentioned that you said happy birthday when it was their birthday, or sent them a card, or if it was a big birthday, like a 60th or whatever, then, you know, assuming they hadn't already retired, being public sector workers, then, you know, would make you buy them a cake or whatever. so now that is all going to have to stop. so everybody has a bad time. >> isn't wishing someone a happy birthday a nice thing ? yeah. birthday a nice thing? yeah. >> he was clearly trying to be nice and look , this person is nice and look, this person is a certain kind of person you get. i mean, she submitted a formal 11 page long grievance. i mean, even mine was only ten. that is a long grievance letter. i mean, and i do sympathise with her illness, but come on, unwanted conduct, try working with lewis

schaffer. i mean, i have unwanted conduct every day. i try. i work with comedians. these jobs are so soft. she was contacted. she didn't want to be contacted. she didn't want to be contacted at home, which i understand it can be annoying, but she was contacted more than once every other day. that's not a lot of contact. you're at home. i understand it with the illness that i do sympathise with that , as i say, but this is with that, as i say, but this is someone who clearly she's like, oh, i'm not inviting. i'm left out of training opportunities. do you think it's because you're really annoying ? i mean, i don't really annoying? i mean, i don't want to get sued by her. i don't get a grievance letter, but she's basically sounds like someone who struggles to get on with people, which. and that's me saying that. so okay, we're going to move on to this nick micro—cheating. >> what's that? is this one of these new phrases we have to learn? >> it is so flirting at work, how to know if you're micro—cheating. so doctor david pearl is going on about this and it's a sort of it's this therapeutic culture that turns everything into it kind of does. it does two things at once. it kind of it kind of reduces real cheating and sort of downplays actual immorality while micro—cheating, though. well, it's a great question. it's just

it's a great question. it's just it's not even clear in the article. it'sjust it's not even clear in the article. it's just doing little things like talking in a certain way to someone. and getting on with them too. well, and then you wouldn't tell your partner, and tell them, and if you wouldn't tell them, therefore it must be cheating. so it's flirting. it's flirting. but what? >> flirting isn't cheating by definition. >> we've lost. we've lost track of real morality where people can't just call things vices. so they're saying we shouldn't use terms like cheating because it's loaded. but at the same time, we should invent terms like micro—cheating. and this sounds a bit more like microaggressions, in that it sounds like they're trying to suggest that if you have a flirty conversation with someone and you don't automatically tell your partner about it, it's a form of infidelity. >> that's that's really anti—human and weird. it's nonsense. >> but, well, in fairness , i >> but, well, in fairness, i think, you know, this is this is happening now . it's dms and happening now. it's dms and emails and, you know, messages via technology that's been enabled now, which you didn't have, you know, 20 years ago or whatever. so examples of micro—cheating include excessive social media interaction with another person or dms or emails without your partner's knowledge. and it sounds kind of like normal sized cheating to be

mean, though, that lots of people are sort of micro cheating with us. >> @gbnews we have lots of people obsessively tweeting about us. >> is that micro cheating? because, i mean, there's loads of people who interact with me on twitter. are they cheating on their partners or am i cheating on my partner because i'm replying? >> no, but if it's if it's a, you know, a private message and you're sending flirty messages and stuff, that's , you know, i and stuff, that's, you know, i wouldn't do that, but but at the same time, isn't it strange, oleo, that they're actually downplaying he first time he says all affairs start in childhood. >> which is a weird thing to say thatis >> which is a weird thing to say that is a weird. he's talking about things like sex, which isn't real, but he's he's sort of he's sort of downplaying, cheating and saying it's a loaded term and it's a shaming word, but it's supposed to be shaming. so he's kind of downplaying it. he's inventing new categories while at the same time suggesting it's not actually that bad. why don't we go back to the old categories where we just had vices and sin and immorality ? yeah. so simple and immorality? yeah. so simple micro cheating, which are cheating. and then we think as a, as a sort of on your theological high horse, what do you think about flirting? >> what does the bible say about flirting? >> well, i don't know, but it's not it says it's not great. that's in matthew six. but actually , no, to be fair, actually, no, to be fair, matthew was an absolute stickler. he said, you can't

even look at another woman with lust, and that's considered adultery. so matthew was an absolute nutter. he was he was the first person to talk about micro—cheating in a way. >> i don't know. there were some flirts in the bible, if you look closely enough. anyway, let's move on. a daily mail next, leo, what's this, about a robot apparently getting quite depressed. yes. >> or paranoid android? a south korean civil servant . robot korean civil servant. robot commits suicide after mysteriously circling in one spot as if something was there. just like a real civil servant to be honest. so this is gumi city council, has announced that this robot is defunct after it fell down a two metre staircase around 4 pm. last thursday. and everybody's acting as if this robot committed suicide. it didn't. it just malfunctioned , didn't. it just malfunctioned, went around in a circle for a bit, and then fell down some stairs. >> why are they saying it committed suicide? that seems like a ridiculous. >> they're trying to anthropomorphise these robots because robots are basically going to save the western world. we've got rapidly ageing populations. yes, and nobody to do the work. so robots are going

to are going to do it. you're going to have your bum wiped by a robot. >> but then what if ai develops to the point where, like in the prescient movie short circuit, the robot does gain consciousness and becomes like a human being? could that robot not kill itself? yes, exactly . not kill itself? yes, exactly. >> we're going to have the first ai suicide because people are worried about al killing us or making tricking us into suicide. but what if it's suicides itself? >> yes. okay, we're going to quickly finish off with this one in the mirror. leo. what's this? no such thing as a free lunch. >> i wanted to do my one. >> i wanted to do my one. >> so do you want to do your one? >> no, that's all right. >> no, that's all right. >> okay, so a man weighing 36 stone has refused a free £5,000 surgery on a tv show as he wants to promote obesity. so this is a guy, luis delgado, so he's refused to. he's refused to sort of get any help on the show because he wants to promote obesity, which means, like all the other people who are 36 stone and promote obesity, he will die quite soon. >> that seems a bit bleak. nick, can you put a positive spin on that? >> no, because i didn't understand that, he said. i couldn't continue with big and fashion. i couldn't eat the same way or continue with my brand or promote because they promote obesity because they were the opposite.

were doing the opposite. i didn't like that. so is he saying he wanted to promote obesity and to work with them? we'd have to go against it. yeah, and just wants to . so yeah, and he just wants to. so he's obese and he's like, this is my thing. and i'm making a lot of people get trapped in something that makes money, don't they? but it's not great. but they're yeah, certainly is. >> a moral lesson >> and there's a moral lesson for us all there. the show is nearly over. let's take another quick look at thursday's front pages. so the times is leading with the debate between the next prospective leaders. rishi sunak rams home tax message in final debate and the daily mail is running with you are taking people for fools. that's a direct quotation from rishi sunak's debate. the ft has a french far right leader vows to fight a cultural battle against islamism, and the mirror has holly kidnap kit the eye is running with revealed russian hackers. behind nhs attack are part of cyber army protected by the kremlin, the daily star. has someone fell asleep watching the football? that's all we've got time for. thanks to my guests leo kearse and nick dixon. we're back tomorrow at 11:00 with myself, cressida and jonathan kogan. and by the way, if you're watching the repeat at 5 am, please do stick around because right now it's time for

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>> five day strike commences today by junior doctors in england over pay. the crown's cash the annual report, which declares the wealth of the monarch, is to be released today. should pensions be taking a tax hit? we'll be debating that just after seven. >> and in the report this morning, gareth southgate says that any fan anger is on him, which is fair. and it's confirmed that england's last 16 game will be against slovakia on sunday at 5:00 in gelsenkirchen. also at the euros , portugal and also at the euros, portugal and belgium are booed. so it's not just us after all. and in cricket, england are in the semi—final of the t20 world cup, playing against india and the rain , wet and unusually windy rain, wet and unusually windy for the time of year across scotland and northern ireland today for the south, well, many places will see some sunshine, but we are saying goodbye to the hot weather across east anglia and the south east. >> join me later for a full forecast . forecast. >> it's just gone.

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