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i. >> ii-i >> it's i i-- >> it's 11:00. i. >> it's 11:00. you're with gb >> it's11:00. you're with gb news. this thursday evening. and the top story from the gb newsroom . the prime minister has newsroom. the prime minister has urged voters to not surrender to laboun urged voters to not surrender to labour, adding that this is a really important election where britain could make a better choice. he was speaking to gb news, political editor christopher hope. rishi sunak said if labour wins the election, they'll reverse all the changes that he's made. >> want people to surrender to labour? i don't want them to surrender to their tax rises. i don't want people to surrender our borders to labour, our
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welfare system, labour, our national security, to labour. right. i'm up for the fight. i want people to join me in that fight. like we should not surrender our country to this right ? we can do better. last right? we can do better. last years has not been easy. i'm not saying we've got everything right. i completely understand that. right. i completely understand that . but right. i completely understand that. but this right. i completely understand that . but this is right. i completely understand that. but this is really important. this election. if labour are in power, they'll have a blank check to do whatever they want. that means put up your taxes, reverse all the changes i made to get us to net zero in a sensible way. reverse all the progress we made on illegal migration. >> in other news today, the former newcastle united owner, sir john hall, says he has sirjohn hall, says he has switched his political support to reform uk from the conservatives after previously donating tens of thousands of pounds to the tories. he was cheered on at a reform speech near sunderland today, where the party leader , nigel farage, was party leader, nigel farage, was speaking. mr farage said it was a privilege to welcome sirjohn a privilege to welcome sir john into the reform uk family, and said he'd made a substantial donation to the party's campaign. sirjohn said he feels
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the tories have left him disillusioned. >> the conservative party has let me down. there have been a failure for the last many ways over the last 14 years, and they don't speak now, for my english is my a way of life which i feel is my a way of life which i feel is under threat and i looked around basically who i find to support , to speak for me and the support, to speak for me and the reform party. i feel and i feel is the only ones who are going to speak and about saving my engush to speak and about saving my english culture. >> junior doctors in england went on strike today for the 11th time in almost a year. it's the start of a five day walkout and it continues their long running pay dispute with the government. they're asking for a 35% pay rise, which labour has said is a non—starter if it gets in government. but the doctors say more industrial action will take place over the summer if negotiations don't move forward . negotiations don't move forward. the mother of missing british teenager jay slater says some of
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the money raised by a crowdfunding appeal will be withdrawn to help with the search for her son. the appeal has so far raised more than £36,000. the for search 19 year old jay slater has entered its 11th day after he went missing while on holiday in tenerife, and yesterday spanish police deployed helicopters above ground and sniffer dogs on the ground and sniffer dogs on the ground to search the mountainous areas of the island where he's gone missing . england's football gone missing. england's football squad has been training for their first knockout game against slovakia in the euros on sunday. the three lions squad topped their group before getting into the knockout stages of the competition. they'll be without their midfielder, though. phil foden has had to leave training and go to the uk for the birth of his third child. those are your latest gb news headlines. i'm polly middlehurst i'm back tomorrow. see you then. right now, headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code,
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or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. it's your first look at friday's newspapers i'm andrew doyle joining me tonight are two headliners favourites cressida yass queen wetton and jonathan christine kogan both. >> okay i'll take teen well, well i mean it rhymes. >> it doesn't. the only reason for the nickname. yeah, because let's be honest, you're no spnng let's be honest, you're no spring chicken. >> in spite of your my, my salad days are behind me. >> well, you still have your cherubic looks. that's true. >> talking of cherubic looks, can i congratulate you on half an hour in the make up room? you look wonderful. >> how long did you spend on the iron? >> look, we don't have to domestic these domestic squabbles are helping no one. we're here for the news. goodness me. so let's go straight for the newspapers. have a look at the front pages of friday's newspapers. and the daily mail is leading with poll that shows it's not too late to
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stop. starmer supermajority. the times has got shoot illegal migrants says reform campaigner. the ai is running with private school fees , vat in reeve's school fees, vat in reeve's first budget but delayed until 2025 and loophole closed. very mysterious that one the telegraph has got farage is a putin appeaser, says sunak. as for the express , they're leading for the express, they're leading with bbc paid tv audience to appear at leaders debate and the daily star is running with invasion of the creeping bog crawlers. of course they are. and those were your front pages . and those were your front pages. right. so we're going to kick off with friday's daily mail and cressida has the details poll that shows it's too not late to stop starmer supermajority. stop starmer superm ajority. >> stop starmer supermajority. >> so we keep hearing about this supermajority. but apparently there's still 1 in 10 voters, which is about 4 million, who still haven't decided . still haven't decided. >> is that right? because, you know, i no longer trust polls . i know, i no longer trust polls. i don't mean the people, the race, i mean the polls , because
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i mean the polls, because they're always wrong. they're always wrong. and i keep seeing sort of mixed messages about what's going to happen here. i think the supermajority is pretty much guaranteed. and i'm no mother shipton , but i'm just no mother shipton, but i'm just putting it out there. what do you think? >> well, at what point does something become a supermajority? is there a certain percentage that has to be hit? >> it's roughly two thirds, but it's i think the press are just using it to mean landslide. >> it's a fun word. >> it's a fun word. >> it's a fun word. everyone's saying it's going to be worse than 1997. but i don't really know what that means because i was playing pingu, pingu on the gameboy advance at the time. >> that sounds pretty bad. >> that sounds pretty bad. >> yeah. i mean, it was a wonderful year where you were 22, in 1990. >> yeah, i know, okay. so look, this is obviously the daily mail. are running with this for, you know, perhaps partisan reasons . but, you know, at this reasons. but, you know, at this point, isn't it right that, jonathan, that we should just accept the situation? i mean, it does seem like a hail mary. >> and what i think is really interesting about this election is that there really exciting, if you can call it exciting. >> thing about it is who's going to be the opposition. >> that's where everyone's kind of, you know, they're more looking forward to seeing who the real runner up is. >> so yeah, i think i think
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that's that is what's happening, isn't it? at the moment we haven't had that for so long. you know, we've been sort of stuck in this two party situation and nobody's excited about the labour win from what i've seen. >> i mean maybe people are. >> i mean maybe people are. >> well that's very interesting isn't it? i mean, because keir starmer is going to get this supermajority which hasn't been achieved since, what, 1804. well he he's the most charismatic leader ever. so yeah. but that's it isn't it. no one's enthusiastic about it. yeah. right. so that's what's the weird. that's what's weird about this. he's going to be able to say, look at me. i got this incredible labour victory. it's historical. and yet he got it. by historical. and yet he got it. by even though he wasn't very popular, he won't even say it with that much enthusiasm. >> andrew. he'll be calmer than that. oh, he's. >> i know he can't muster it. he can't do it. he's not. i should do this. i should go. yeah, go for it. politics. why not i can gesticulate, i can throw my arms about and pretend to care. all right, let's move on now to the front cover of the express. jonathan this strikes me as another partisan front cover, what have you. i mean, this is an extreme scandal, if you ask me. >> bbc paid tv audience to appear at leaders debate . so the appear at leaders debate. so the bbc spent more than £30,000 of licence fee payers , not us money
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licence fee payers, not us money hiring audience members for the tv election debate between rishi sunak and keir starmer. tv election debate between rishi sunak and keir starmer . so the sunak and keir starmer. so the 150 strong audience were each paid. how much are they given? £150 each. they called it disturbance money, and i hear a lot of that gets spent at the bbc for unfortunate disturbances. but yeah, i mean, is this normal? is this something that. >> i'm sorry , kogan, this is not >> i'm sorry, kogan, this is not that big a deal. it's just not disturbance. money is quite standard in tv. it's your expenses. basically. it's a great name, but they have expenses as well. >> a £30 expenses for travel. >> a £30 expenses for travel. >> it's because the bbc will have outsourced this to a company that gets the audience together. and then these are some basic payments that went into that. am i just being am i being silly? >> no, i think you're exactly right. it's part of a company. a marketing company who get the audience. >> it's like doing a survey and then being paid for your views. >> yeah, it's not that big a deal >> yeah, it's not that big a deal, is it? and yet the express has somehow managed to get this onto the front page, as though this is some sort of evidence of bbc corruption. wrong. i just don't think. i mean, £150. >> it's not a huge amount of
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money, is it ? >> it's not a huge amount of money, is it? it's not, it's >> it's not a huge amount of money, is it ? it's not, it's not money, is it? it's not, it's not the glamorous sausage roll buffet that we lay on for free speech nation. >> well, exactly. you know, i think if people want to, you know, be really treated real nice, how would they how would they come to that show, andrew? >> what do you mean, how would they come to free speech? oh, you mean this is a good opportunity for a plug? what they do is they ww dot they would go to sro audiences.com and apply there and then come along £150. that bit isn't true . along £150. that bit isn't true. oh that that bit isn't true. but we do have free ones. okay let's move on to the front cover of the i. cressida, what have you got? >> private school fees, vat and rachel reeves first budget but delayed until 2025. and loophole closed. >> that is a really long, meandering headline. i object to it on that basis. i think it's just it should be pithy. it should have an exclamation mark. no gotcha or something. >> the i kind of is an exclamation mark. >> if you turn it upside down. >> if you turn it upside down. >> oh, that's very clever. >> oh, that's very clever. >> yeah, yeah, i'm doing a bit camera. >> i'll go to the wide shot. >> i'll go to the wide shot. >> well done . >> well done. >> well done. >> yeah. too late. go on. wetten. >> well. so yes she's going to
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go ahead and pose 20% vat on private schools, which we've heard lots about. but this is interesting. it says labour now likely to prevent parents from trying to beat the hike by paying trying to beat the hike by paying their children's fees. a year years in advance. so some people that can't afford the 20% vat can afford several years. school fees. >> why are the labour party so down on private schools, do you think? i mean, i know it's all the class thing, but labour is so middle class at the moment, you'd think they'd be bringing them up. >> well, that's a very good point. some people might say that they're pulling the ladder up after they've got it. >> yeah, they've already graduated. >> yeah. that's interesting. didn't corbyn go to quite a posh private school. came out of it with two e's at a level two. really. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> okay i wish i was making that up. excellent. >> well, i actually did quite a big deep dive into this story. and it turns out vat stands for value added tax. >> okay. but at least you've done your research, cogan. which i do appreciate. were you privately educated? no. >> everyone thinks i was, though. well, i went to a private primary school, but my parents made me get a job to pay for it. >> so the whole thing is, oh, okay. >> the whole child labour thing.
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yeah. but, you know, you were smaller than you were. you were good at going up the chimneys. >> i was, yeah, i was, but they don't let you do the thing anymore with her. >> yeah. well we won't go into detail. let's finish. >> here's a fine example of why you don't need to go to private school. well, it's completely unnecessary. >> come a what's the word? >> come a what's the word? >> a colourful word i can say you've come a cheeky scamp in, getting state educated. >> okay, there we go. you're a great advert for the comprehensive system. i mean , i comprehensive system. i mean, i did an exam to get in, obviously, to the star and jonathan of course, the star are running with something that's utterly frivolous. and it's all political. oh, sorry, i interrupted. >> it's called invasion of the creeping bog crawlers. now, this is not a story about gender neutral toilets, as cresta joked about earlier backstage, this is actually a story about about creepy crawlies coming up. the toilets, such as rats, cockroaches , spiders, snakes. if cockroaches, spiders, snakes. if you don't put the lid down. and if my girlfriend at home is listening about this, just put the lid down. it's all you need to do . that's all you need to to do. that's all you need to put the litter. >> the thing about this is there have been myths about this for centuries. there's even been films. i think there was a film where this happened, doesn't it? some sort of monster comes up
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when i was a backpacker in australia. >> oh, no, it's 20s. dun dun dun. no, there was a shop i worked in in the outback, and there was a frog that lived in there was a frog that lived in the toilet. frog and on day one you go, whoa! and they said, oh yeah, that's just frog. oh, he just lives there. and the bog frog. yeah, the bog frog, i swear. and it used to sometimes be there, sometimes not, but that's where it lived. >> well, i mean, obviously you're going to get animals in various places, but i really wouldn't worry about this. this looks like panic mongering from the start. not in england. >> well, it's obvious, maybe in scotland, somebody who wants their partner to put the toilet seat down. how's your girlfriend been working for the daily star, no, it's sort of beyond her comprehension level. but that's not the problem. that the problem is. shut your toilet. otherwise you're going to get tarantulas there. >> we go. okay, well, that's all we've got time for in this section, but after the break, we're going to be talking about reform, taking a bashing in the polls, the north korean cavalry and on hunting. it's to sell those guns. call me. i
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welcome back to headliners, your
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first look at friday's newspapers. i'm andrew doyle, and with me still are the will they won't they couple for the ages? cressida wetton and jonathan kogan. jonathan, i see your shirt still isn't ironed like the maid was. >> she was taking a rather long break. we had to let her go. >> so right when. so you just have to look shabby. yeah. now on shabby chic. >> and i've got a hair. >> and i've got a hair. >> terrible. all right, well, let's start this section with the guardian. and we're talking about whistleblowers . my about whistleblowers. my favourite subject, cressida. >> managers who silence whistleblowers will never work in nhs again. vow streeting. so nhs, as we know, is , you know, nhs, as we know, is, you know, full of exciting problems and was very scandals, various things going on and wes streeting is saying i want the whistleblowers to be able to come forward and tell us what's wrong so we can reform the nhs, and he's talking he's been talking to the guardian and he's warned that the care quality commission has got to get tougher. so these are like the ofsted people. but for hospitals and nhs, i mean it is difficult
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isn't it, because you do rely every now and then on whistleblowers . whistleblowers. >> and, you know, we saw that at the tavistock clinic, the nhs clinic and the whistleblowers were just ignored over successive years. wes streeting has come around to the view that actually the cass review has a point and wes streeting has understood the problem now. and so maybe that's had some sort of impact on on what he thinks. >> maybe that's a very generous interpretation, andrew, but maybe he's also just kind of getting ready to take the poisoned chalice and he's saying, yes , goodness me, saying, yes, goodness me, i wonder what's in the cupboards at the nhs and he's going to throw them open and go, oh, it's terrible on day one. >> is he that camp? i mean, no he might. >> that's my best wes streeting impression. >> no fair, fair, fair enough. no judgement. jonathan, what do you think? >> i think it's wonderful impression . yeah, it's good impression. yeah, it's good about the story. i kind of think. yeah fair enough. you want an open work environment where people can highlight any problems and not feel afraid that there's going to be retribution if they do. i mean, yes, yeah. on paper it sounds suspiciously suitable. yeah. >> so you believe in whistleblowers? >> i think so if it's going to
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be if it's going to make a place better, especially if there's either like negligence or any sort of. >> was it you who went to hr about my drinking? >> look, i just said you don't need to have a whole bottle before midday. it's a family show . okay. show. okay. >> well, just it stops me shaking. >> i trust me , i've worked with >> i trust me, i've worked with him without it, anyway, what else. >> well, what else is there to say other than it is a bit of a poisoned chalice? whoever's running the nhs , whichever running the nhs, whichever government happens to be, is going to be getting a lot of flack for it, because no one's ever happy, are they? >> i think what he's really saying is the nhs or my interpretation of this is the nhs is like a religious thing, isn't it? we all love it. pots and pans support the nhs and he's kind of he's shaking that up a bit. so i'm kind of in favour of that. well done. where's. yeah. >> and it is something that is cross—partisan isn't it. everyone loves it. yeah. tony benn once said that there would be a revolution if we ever got rid of the nhs. i think he might might have a point. anyway, i know a lot of our viewers don't agree with that, so i look forward to your tweets. we're going to move on now to the ai reform hit by controversy.
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>> yes, indeed. so reform support badly hit by nigel farage russia claims poll suggests another poll for you andrew. very exciting. so reform uk have alienated some voters with nigel farage's claim that the west is partly to blame for the west is partly to blame for the invasion of ukraine, according to a new poll. so this is a poll done by the bmg research survey. one of my favourite survey groups. >> i look them up, all their clients are like public sector and charity. they've got a very specific remit. oh, really? >> okay, okay. but but all of this, we should say, was down to the interview that nigel farage gave where he said, well, effectively what he's been saying for many, many years, which is that the gradual expansion of nato is considered by the russians to be a provocation, which is true. but the people have taken this that he's saying he's he's sort of saying that the war is our fault and that it's not clutching on this has been second to none. >> it's some of the best. i don't believe it i've ever seen. i mean, he actually said he referred to putin. he said, of course it's his fault. he's used what we did as an excuse to go to his people and say, let's go
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to his people and say, let's go to war. so i don't think what he said was really that outrageous at all, especially since it's identical to what he's been saying for years. >> i mean, that's what's so strange about it and what even carlson interview. >> i know what putin said. you know, we didn't they all watch it. i mean, this is what putin thinks. and that's what putin's been saying this quite explicitly. >> he's been talking about nato's expansion for a long, long time, but the question is whether it was sensible and politically a good idea for him to dwell on it in the way that he did. you know, because it might have been smarter at the moment to just kind of sidestep that a little bit. on the other hand , the reason why people like hand, the reason why people like farage is because he just says what he thinks and he's and he's doubled down on it since, he's even highlighted that, boris johnson made similar claims back in the day. loads of people have said this like, this is what i don't get about this. well, of course they wanted to find something to get him on. >> didn't they? do you think that the drop in the polls is connected to this? because that's not explicit, is it? well, that's really no, that that's the question because a lot of people at the time said, oh, this will affect the polls.
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>> and certainly i think the people who made such a big deal out of this interview were hoping that it would have a knock in the polls. and maybe it has. i mean, who knows? >> it's hard to say, isn't it? because i remember when the ukrainian flags were everywhere, you know, the country was very taken with it. i remember meeting a man in a nightclub that had a ukrainian pedicure on his feet. that's activism for you in london. yes so i don't know, maybe people are outraged, but i don't think. i don't think it's reasonable. >> no. okay. interesting. so we're going to move on now to the telegraph, north korea and, putin, that's a match made in heaven, isn't that's what we all want to see. >> that's right. ukraine—russia war live north korea to send engineering troops to help russia rebuild bombed cities. >> and this, i guess, is in the wake of, putin's visit to north korea, where they were friends. now, they were seen holding hands and kissing when they walk around together, you can hear the cheers music. >> and putin was waving goodbye on a plane, blowing him a little. yeah. he didn't blow him a kiss, but it felt like he was going to. so, north korea are going to. so, north korea are going to. so, north korea are going to send a load of a large number of engineering and construction troops. so they're actually troops, but they're not
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going there to fight. they're just going there to rebuild. i mean, they're going to build fake shops like they do in north korea. what are they going to they're going to get there and they're going to get there and they're going to find out that some people eat more than once a week, and then he's got a problem on his hands. that is a problem, isn't it? i don't know, yeah. >> what do you think about this, kogan? because i am concerned about the you know, two sort of malevolent powers the alliance together. it's really not good. it's like the sith and the whatever. what would you say? and skeletor, the borg, the borg. i thought skeletor was a better reference. >> nice. yeah >> nice. yeah >> fair enough. i think people will have forgotten that. >> yeah. that's true. it's. it's a classic, but what do i think? i don't think north korea are his first choice. it's like, the big bully in schools kind of isolated everyone else. and now he's picking the kind of incel nerd kid at the back. you can join my team. that's kind of how i see this. >> who would he have rather had, do you think? >> i think he'd rather have had, who would he rather have had? me? maybe china? yeah. yeah, maybe. >> but there have been overtures with china. so i mean, i don't think that's to be ruled out. >> yeah, but they're not like super buddies driving around together singing karaoke. >> no, i know this is a worry,
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though. i mean, you know, it's a huge worry. >> and they're paying £92 million russia to north korea. is that right? that's megabucks in north korea. you could buy nonh in north korea. you could buy north korea probably with you almost certainly could. >> oh well all right let's look into it. scary stuff. we're going to move on now though to the ai and the rich poor divide. jonathan, what's this about? >> yeah, this isn't very nice news. so the rich, poor health divide led to 64,000 more avoidable deaths during austerity. so some analysis has been done by the cpp, which i won't explain because you all know who they are. and they've revealed large differences between local authorities in england and wales about preventable mortality. so deaths that could have been prevented either through treatment or through better care between 2010 to 2019. and basically the whole point is , is that in a wealthier point is, is that in a wealthier areas, there seems to have been areas, there seems to have been a closing a gap in unnecessary deaths, whereas comparatively in poor areas it seems to have grown. >> why is this news insofar? it's like, i think it's good that people are being reminded of this, but surely deep down we all know this . i mean, the thing all know this. i mean, the thing is that we talk about the rich,
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poor divide, but ultimately poverty matters because poverty kills and it would be quite good to resolve this, you know, just a choice, is it? >> i feel like being an impoverished person. >> right. exactly. >> right. exactly. >> yeah. apparently if you move to milton keynes, that's good for your health. that was shock. >> that can't be true. >> that can't be true. >> well, according to this, it's one of the one of the places where the gap has shrunk. >> milton keynes. >> milton keynes. >> yes. who knew? and brighton and hove, that's less of a surprise, isn't it? i think bit of sea air. >> yeah, but you have to deal with all those crazy activists in brighton and hove. and at least in milton keynes, you get to say i live in the place where they filmed superman for the quest for peace, which is what we all want. it's the only thing i want, apparently. cogan, what do you think? >> well, i was wondering why this. why there is this divide and why poor people are more likely to die? is that because they have access to, you know, worse healthcare? or is it like a lifestyle choice? but i also saw a documentary about this really sort of obese rich guy who just kept on eating, and then he ate this like wafer thin mint and he just exploded. so i don't know what it could be. it could be anything. i remember seeing that documentary. >> yeah. it was it was very
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unhappy. >> yeah. it should have had a trigger warning. >> yeah, most definitely. >> yeah, most definitely. >> apparently it's better to have public health grants than just plough the money into the nhs, according to this. and i thought, well, what's a public health grant? so i looked it up andifs health grant? so i looked it up and it's where local authorities have these bits of money that they can go and put into things that they think are worthwhile. now that's interesting. >> so localised spending is better than centralised spending. >> well, it turns out, yeah, that if you plug the money into the local people, they know what's going on and see that. >> okay, well we're going to wrap up this section with the telegraph now hunting presser. you're a hunter aren't you. you hunting. no i'm not. you've never shot a bird. >> i've i've never shot a bird. ihave >> i've i've never shot a bird. i have to think. have i shot any bird? you did have to think about it. >> that's very suspicious. >> that's very suspicious. >> i think probably in the late 90s, i went in a rock pool and maybe caught a crab in a bucket. >> look, we all caught crabs in the late 90s. >> anyway . cressler. >> anyway. cressler. >> anyway. cressler. >> what's a hunter? what's labour plans? total hunting ban if it wins legal papers show. which doesn't sound that extraordinary, because we know that labour aren't into hunting. yeah. fair enough. but what? where it gets complicated is it's not in their manifesto because it would be seen as part of a class war and alienate
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rural voters. but somebody this is where it gets complicated, there's so there's legal action against a man called dan norris, who's the former chairman of the league against cruel sports. yes. so he's part of this organisation that doesn't do we don't like hunting. we're trying to stop it . don't like hunting. we're trying to stop it. but don't like hunting. we're trying to stop it . but somebody else to stop it. but somebody else called andy knott, who used to be in it but was forced out, to according him, because he wasn't happy that labour weren't going all in and saying, we're going to ban everything. yes yes. what's even weirder is that this guy andy not used to be a lieutenant colonel in the army, but doesn't go together, does it 7 but doesn't go together, does it ? somebody being so passionate about stopping hunting . who's in about stopping hunting. who's in the army? >> he only likes hunting humans. the deadliest game of all. >> exactly. it. >> exactly. it. >> the deadliest game of all. that's a zodiac reference. mish. yeah, it's quite niche . no idea, yeah, it's quite niche. no idea, coken yeah, it's quite niche. no idea, coker, why do you think? i mean, the thing about this is, you know, obviously this will alienate rural voters, but rural voters aren't really the ones that are labour particularly want, are they? i wouldn't have thought. >> no. i mean, i suppose they want as many as they can get. but yeah, traditionally speaking
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they'd be more conservative voters down in the rural, especially the people who do hunting. but yeah, i mean, what do i think? i mean, i personally don't want to do hunting, but i also understand that. have you done it? i once stumped on a duck because it bit me. but that's that's it. >> that doesn't count as hunting. >> if it bit you, it's not a duck. it's self—defence. >> yeah, you have no choice. >> yeah, you have no choice. >> it was a duck size horse. i can't remember what it was. it was something. but. yeah. look hunting doesn't appeal to me at all. >> and also, you know, i've had arguments with people who do hunt. yeah. and they say, you know, it's not a cruel sport. i'm saying. and i think, well, once you're shooting animals heads off, there is an element of cruelty to that. i would have thought, well, it always gets hysterical, doesn't it? >> the no fox hunting argument. and then you look at all the factory farming and you think, is that really the most important part of animal welfare? i mean, personally, i wouldn't do either. >> yeah. i don't want to ruin people's fun. but look, i do also i do also believe in animal rights. so what are you going to do. reasonable. so reasonable. robot foxes. it's a fault. okay, look, we're at the halfway point now, but do join us in part three for assisted dying hijinks, virginia woolf's big
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welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at friday's newspapers. let's get straight back into it with virginia woolf in the daily mail. long overdue . jonathan. >> absolutely. so the question for the ages. who's afraid of virginia woolf? people with blue hair. apparently so. virginia. virginia woolf's great niece slams wokerati council for adding qr code on renowned writer statue to explain her unacceptable views. so labour run camden council added the digital tag on the famed writer's monument in bloomsbury, central london, which outlines woolf's imperialist attitude. >> so basically you see the statue, you scan it and it says this woman was a horrible racist . exactly. not like she wrote mrs. dalloway and to the lighthouse and these really important works of literature. but she's an evil fascist. >> well, that's the most
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important thing about her is her the views which don't hold up to modern scrutiny completely outweigh all her great artistic achievements. >> so this is it, isn't it, chris? we must stand in judgement over all of those geniuses who came before, because we are better than virginia woolf. >> that's right. andrew, you know, even though she was born in 1882 and the people criticising her would have felt the same if they were born in 1882, no doubt 2024 is just better. is that right? in fact, it's not only better, it's the best, and it always will be. why don't we produce novels as good as hers then, or anything ? as hers then, or anything? because novels are racist novels. andrew. right. do you know what? i can't wait to see the qr codes on other people's statues in 100 years from now. >> amazing. >> amazing. >> won't we have some wonderful qr codes? >> it'll be great. but like these, these idiots thought that men and women were the same. i quite like, you know. it'll be stuff like that. or these. these idiots tried to censor everyone who disagreed with them on the slightest political point. or these idiots were trying to tear down statues. can you imagine? look at them. they're idiots. the statue won't be there. >> it's just going to be a qr code. >> yeah. do you think that will?
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>> yeah. do you think that will? >> well, i quite like the idea of putting qr codes on people to explain certain things. i could put one on my girlfriend's shirt, like she's an actress. she doesn't know who rishi sunak is. don't blame her like it's fine. >> it would be quite useful, wouldn't it? >> would it be very handy? >> would it be very handy? >> the arrogance, though, of assuming that you've got all the answers that future generations won't judge what you think. i just think it's really funny. it suggests a complete lack of any knowledge of history whatsoever. you know, i just not only that, but she wasn't just neutral. >> she was a feminist, socially progressive, a literary pioneer, politically active. i mean, she no, i don't she wasn't just somebody from that time. all they had outdated ideas. she was a progressive and they don't recognise. >> no, i know they didn't understand that progressives also used racially language that we would consider racist. but at the time it was it was normal to them . yeah. oh, for god's sake. them. yeah. oh, for god's sake. anyway, they are fools . anyway, they are fools. absolutely, let's move on to the guardian now . and this is a guardian now. and this is a story about assisted dying. so cressida jolly's story for you. >> jolly story indeed. i want a choice terminally ill women urge early commons vote on assisted dying . so, two women who both dying. so, two women who both have incurable cancer are urging
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the next uk prime minister. whoever that is, because we don't know yet. we don't know to allow no idea, no to allow a vote on assisted dying within the first hundred days of the new government. so they're saying get on with it. >> the thing about all this is obviously, i think everyone has sympathy, deep, deep sympathy for anyone who's going through that. and you can understand, people wanting to take charge of their own situation when they are terminally ill. by the same token, there are very, very good arguments against euthanasia, the way that it can be exploited. we've seen it in canada.i exploited. we've seen it in canada. i mean, the canadian government is even putting out adverts saying, feeling a bit depressed, why not kill yourself? i mean, this is, you know, it's dangerous stuff. i think it's outrageous. however, i do understand why there are two sides to this. >> well, i saw one thing recently on twitter or x, as i have to say, a lady, was i think she was a very badly disabled and she needed a wheelchair ramp . and then she literally got like a leaflet or something from the canadian government saying, have you thought about euthanasia? yes. and then i saw someone make an amazing joke,
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which is we can't give you a ramp, but we can give you a slippery slope, which i thought was a technically perfect, very good. >> it's very good. but this is this is the real problem, isn't it? yeah. and i do think it's i've seen stories of young people with nothing wrong with them. other than depression. and them. other than depression. and the government and health officials are suggesting or intimating that euthanasia might be the way . it's unbelievable. be the way. it's unbelievable. there is. there is actually there have been some reports of some people who are on the who will be euthanized on the basis of depression alone, and they are young and perfectly healthy. this is scary, you know. and isn't starmer quite for this idea? well, yeah. >> and to be fair, rishi is also open to it. i mean, you know, they're they're all saying, well they're they're all saying, well they're doing what politicians would do and they're saying, well what do the people want? and of course, esther rantzen is there, you know, being the poster girl for this, saying it's a good idea, which of course i understand. that's obviously you know, people feel compassionate about it. this article brings money into it as well, apparently £15,000 to go to dignitas. so they're now making it like this luxury product. only the rich can afford to kill themselves, which is so bleak. >> the luxury suicide tents at
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glastonbury, that kind of thing. oh, it is bleak. >> okay, let's move on now to the times. this is controversy over at itn. kogan >> yes. it's not us for once. hooray! >> yay ! >> yay! >> yay! >> so, tom bradbury, only halfway through the show, jonathan. >> yeah, that's true. you haven't said the worst of it yet. i know you're like, it's not tom brady, but i'm just going to call him tom brady because i can't read his name. >> so tom brady's white male comments draw complaints from itn staff. so itn have come under pressure from angry furious staff to censor tom bradby. >> bradby bradby. >> bradby bradby. >> okay, i don't watch television. >> he knows your name, does he? >> he knows your name, does he? >> he knows your name, does he? >> he talks about you all the time. yeah. so what's tom bradby done? >> he's basically said that he's not worried about his job because he's the only white guy on the team or something to that effect. so what did he say? the actual quote was, he's not worried about he's not insecure in his role because there aren't many white male anchors left, dare i say so? i feel a bit less nervous about that than possibly i should. and obviously , i should. and obviously, ironically, there are now really angry with him for saying that because the implication is there. he's implying that people are hired based on other things other than merit,
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are hired based on other things other than merit , whether that's other than merit, whether that's race or gender or etc. it's not even implying that he could be saying, oh, the world's starting to diversify. >> okay. i mean, he's not. >> no, but that's why they're angry. that's why they're angry. >> yes. that is why they're angry. >> but it's true. it's true that people get hired on, on miriam cates. well, no, but it is true. like people are being hired for their race, for their sexuality as opposed to merit. that's definitely happening. it's very strange that we can't talk about that. yeah, that it just is the case. >> the rules are at the top of the organisation. they scream it and they say we do diversity hires. yeah and then at the individual level you've got to say they earned it. that's the rule. it doesn't make sense. but that's what you have to do. it's kind of orwellian. double speak sort of thing. >> it's very strange. you know, like in the comedy industry, it's very, very clear. you know, obviously you get very some very male act, know, female identifying act preferred. >> you see that all the time. you see it very explicitly. >> and then you watch things like live at the apollo and you see some very mediocre acts who are clearly there to tick a diversity box. that's just true. everyone knows it. everyone can see it. but we're not meant to say it. why? >> don't say it. don't ruin the
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spell because it's had an adverse impact on people. >> what? >> what? >> jonathan had two adverse impacts on me during the break. i think these people need to toughen up. >> yeah, but he's only here because he's jewish. exactly. you know, even jewish. he just said it on his application learning thing. oh, the learning disability. yeah. it was partly that as well. >> yeah. the make—a—wish. but also i mean, tom bradby, he's sort of he's he's got his name, right. yeah. he's basically all he has to do now is just have a qr code on him which people can scan, and then it will be fine. yeah. okay >> all right. well, look, let's move on. >> and he said it was a white boy. summer, i don't know what that means. >> no, i don't either. i don't want to know the i know he didn't say that by the way. and we're talking about ultra processed food now. what's this about why it's too soon to treat upfs like tobacco. >> and a upf is an ultra processed food. so some doctors want tobacco style health warnings on the really naughty stuff. yes. which sounds like a good idea, doesn't it? you know, we shouldn't be eating too much salt, fat and sugar, blah blah blah, it turns out this idea of upf has only been around for about 15 years, brought out by a brazilian doctor called
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professor carlos monteiro. yeah, in sao paulo. and he's. so this is going through, should we or shouldn't we? because the problem is, if you start putting these labels on things. yeah, you might be telling people not to eat stuff that's actually not that bad. stuff like yoghurt would count. it's i don't like those sort of warnings. >> i don't like the sort of images on the cigarette packets, even they bother me. i mean, i get it, i get, i get why they're doing it, but it's so grotesque because people leave them, don't they? just in restaurants and stuff. you have to see them. yes you do. you know it's not good, but you know, so ultra processed food. i keep being told this that the reason why we're all so fat is because of ultra processed food. you see those things on online where they show an old picture of people on the beach in the 70s. yes, and everyone's totally skinny. and then they'll say, look, there weren't any fat people back in the 70s. and there is a point to that, you know, that there are more fats than there used to be. absolutely. >> i mean, it's the sort of the traditional american diet it's led to. i think it's 1 in 2 people in america now obese. and so much of that comes from like hyperpalatable food. so food that's been engineered by essentially chemical engineering companies to be as delicious as
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possible. >> is that what it is? >> is that what it is? >> it's partly that it's also to do with when you ever have, like if they say anything that you can't make in your kitchen that's ultra processed, right. that's what i think is i'm prone to gaining weight. >> and is it is it because i'm being poisoned by these big evil effectively? >> yeah. well, it's not all the ultra processed things, is it? it's as you just said, it's the hyper palatable. that's a great word, but hyper palatable because it's most things in nature aren't hyper palatable. >> they're . yeah. >> they're. yeah. >> they're. yeah. >> palatable maybe. honey. >> palatable maybe. honey. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah . it looks like louis >> yeah. it looks like louis schaefer's diet. that's not palatable at all are so delicious. >> there were fatter people before, like henry the eighth. he was a jabber. he was a king. >> access to stuff. he could probably get pringles even then. oh, yeah. >> maybe. yeah, maybe. okay. >> maybe. yeah, maybe. okay. >> he does look a bit like the pringles guy. >> actually, he does look like the pringles guy. let's finish this section with the metro now. and, fruitarians. jonathan you're doing a fruitarian diet at the moment. >> no, i'm doing the keto diet, which is equally as miserable, but i actually make sense. >> so what? what's a fruitarian diet? >> well, the fruitarian diet, well, i'll get to that in a second. i'll read the headline
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because i'm a pro, so i'm raising my kids as fruitarians. we only eat fruits and vegetables. i actually kind of covers the it's sort of explained diet as well. yeah. so this woman is bananas, so basically, pam joel, who is 47, is a raw vegan, meaning she only eats uncooked fruit and vegetables and has done so for the last four years. now, she started this diet because she had rheumatoid arthritis at the beginning of 2020, and she says having done this diet, it's now cleared up , having done this diet, it's now cleared up, which i having done this diet, it's now cleared up , which i actually cleared up, which i actually think makes a lot of sense, because if you only basically raw fruit, you're not eating any ultra processed food. as we learned about in the previous story. >> is this similar, though, to jordan peterson only eating meat elimination diet that really helped his health? i think louis chafer says a similar thing, but he. but then louis chafer is mad. >> he says, don't drink water. >> he says, don't drink water. >> you think he would have talked about it, though, if he if he'd only knew. i don't know, but i think there is an element to that. when you're when you're not eating loads of, grains and all that kind of stuff, stuff that we don't naturally process and cause inflammation. yeah, this isn't funny. i just know about this. you just know about this. >> just believe it, though. >> just believe it, though. >> do i believe it? i think so, i think so. >> i've been told that if you
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eat a lot of fruit, you do actually get fat because fruit. fruit is full of sugars. it's all glucose. fructose. >> so do you know what i thought a fruitarian was just because of that film notting hill? i thought it was people that could only eat stuff that had fallen from a tree. they didn't want to hurt the vegetables. >> is that what you thought it was? >> yeah. i think an idiot. >> yeah. i think an idiot. >> are there are there people who only eat meat if the cow dies of natural causes, the animal dies naturally. like hunting. that's. i know somebody who only eats roadkill and cold meat. roadkill. >> anything that's going. >> anything that's going. >> so they'd have like a fried, flattened hedgehog. yeah of an evening. >> he's an animal guy. loves animals and used to be vegan. and then got to a point where he, unlike this lady, he was like, oh, maybe i should do a bit of joe rogan. >> but now he's a really dangerous driver. he's like, what? >> yeah. gotcha. >> yeah. gotcha. >> yeah, i don't know. you're not getting any omega three. you're not getting a vitamin d, you're not getting any protein. you're not getting any iron. just, you know, sweet stuff out. all right. >> there we go. well, look, we've got one section to go. it's a doozy. with the glastonbury life and an ancient greek computer. at least it's not i. oh, and we've also
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welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at friday's newspapers. we're going to kick off this final section with the star and lavish options at glastonbury . cressida. glastonbury. cressida. >> inside huge £24,000 glastonbury tents with swimming pool and dining lounge. that's not what glastonbury is all about, isn't it? i've been to glastonbury in the scorching sun and the terrible mud, and that's what glastonbury is about discomfort, the spirit of woodstock lives on within you, chris. >> you should be going home with some kind of disease at the end of it all. yeah, exactly. >> or a skin condition. something like that. >> yeah. ringworm, scabies. >> yeah. ringworm, scabies. >> something that's going to do a lot of weight loss damage that happens, so these pop up luxury hotel glamping things , 24 grand. hotel glamping things, 24 grand. i thought that meant to own. but i thought that meant to own. but i think it's just for the festival. >> yeah. no, it's just renting it. >> apparently it can have eight people. eight people. >> so let's say what's that eight. so for, i don't know, 824 divided by 838 24 divided by
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five i think we should talk about the story that's going to be £500 a night. >> recently divorced centrist dads who want to do something a bit wacky but not too wacky. >> but the thing about this glastonbury glastonbury is full of posh, posh folks, isn't it? >> so they are going to do this. i've never been to glastonbury. i've never been to glastonbury. i did go to latitude and i was put off by the. they'd painted all the sheep pink and i just think that's vulgar. and did they, did the sheep consent? can a sheep consent sheep. yeah. real sheep. they were just wandering around. nuff, nuff. i just thought it was appalling and it was just full of awful posh people. yeah. i mean, i think that's what that's what's going on here as well, isn't it? just a bunch of poshos listening to music. >> 30 grand. yeah, yeah, i mean pathetic. >> would you do it? >> would you do it? >> would you do it? >> would you do comedy there if they asked? >> no, no, i absolutely wouldn't. fair enough. no, i'm really i really hate it. okay? i hate anyone who goes to it. we'll go next year. i don't know, i just think, look, that's ridiculous. and if you're going to go, you're right. you should go in for the squalor. >> i haven't been since 2008. that was the last glastonbury i went to and it was getting too posh then. so by now, goodness me, i dread to think i'd worry
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about like getting the cutlery in the wrong place, that kind of thing. >> the fish knife? yeah not addressing people in with the right title. i'd have to get my copy of debrett's and roll on off to glastonbury. i think that's why i imagine it's like, there you go. >> it's not a million miles away. no, but you can also get absolutely munted at 4 am. as well if you want. that's not bad. >> all right. let's move on to the telegraph now. an a! generated advert by toys r us. >> toys r us debuts garfield, not giraffe garfield i advert to a chorus of derision. so an ai generated advert by toys r us has been panned for including a host of errors, so i think they're getting a bit of a harsh reception here. so toys r us have used actually made the first advert, using sora, which is openai's text to video software, and it hasn't quite worked , right? worked, right? >> because like the boy in it, every now and then his glasses get an extra bridge. exactly. and he's got like an extra arm or something or something like that. >> exactly. i mean, it's not it's not completely lifelike. yeah. and there are sort of weird artefacts, but when you think about we didn't really have this technology a year ago and how far it's come. >> no, that's scary. and they
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will be able to do like full on because i can imagine an ai writing and producing a soap opera script that is actually better than soap opera scripts, that we'll get there. >> they will get there, certainly. i mean, it's certainly. i mean, it's certainly worrying as well . it certainly worrying as well. it raises a lot of questions and artists what it means to be, you know, a creative. or if you work in conjunction with al, is it yours ? yours? >> well, no, i think i think what i will be able to do is to create popular culture. i don't think it will ever be able to create art by definition. it can't. >> because really, you've got to give me the necessary and sufficient conditions of art, which is a hard thing to do if you want to do that right now. >> shall we start with zola's definition of art, please? life seen through a temperament. and i think that does sum it up insofar as you need to have something that there's something about, there's something about high art, about the greatest works of art that really evoke the numinous, that is something connected to the human spirit. this isn't something that can be replicated through mechanical means and i know you can get an ai generated temperament. >> yeah . no, no i don't. >> yeah. no, no i don't. >> fair enough. i think you can have mimicry of it. i think you can have a mimicry of the sistine chapel, but it wouldn't. >> all this a! stuff does .
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>> all this a! stuff does. always making ai stuff, showing me. and it's like, oh, this again , they did this. again, they did this. >> if it did the sistine chapel, you'd be looking at and you'd think, oh, minute god's fingers are all mashed up. god's got six fingers. yeah. you know, it'd be like it'd be rubbish. >> well, i don't know. i think the question is still open, andrew. >> well, we shall debate this this time next year when it's advanced even further. exactly. and you'll be out of a job because there'll be a robot instead. yeah, true. okay, let's move on to the daily mail. now. a mysterious ancient artefact is causing a stir, don't they always, though, don't they? >> always. scientists shed new light on ancient computer that helped the greeks plot the movement of the planets and inspired latest indiana jones. >> well, that's not its greatest achievement, is it? >> no. >> no. >> well, the new one was terrible. >> awful. i've seen it. >> awful. i've seen it. >> awful. i remember the one with the one before with the aliens. >> it's really. that wasn't great. >> the stones. >> the stones. >> well, we found doctor jones. >> well, we found doctor jones. >> you will not. that was the bad guy. >> that's the last crusade. i mean, that's the best one. >> that's the best one. >> that's the best one. >> you watch the best one with sean connery and then stop watching after there are three
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indiana jones. >> we can all agree on that. >> we can all agree on that. >> nailed it. so they found this old thing, it's so old. i was. they must have done an awful lot of tinkering to find out what this actually is and how it works. >> yeah, because how old is it? it's ancient greece. it's so it's 2200 years old. it's so old. yeah. and this thing was able i mean, it was full of cogs and mechanisms and it was able to plot the stars. i mean, how would they even like. and then that kind of technology wasn't replicated for another 1500 years in time. >> that's how brilliant it was. >> that's how brilliant it was. >> amazing. >> amazing. >> they're so sophisticated. i'm pretty certain it's lost technology from an ancient civilisation that we've forgotten about. that is the gb news official position, by the way. we believe in atlantis no matter what anyone says that as i've been watching that graham hancock. >> oh, yeah. show. i'm sure you are. >> are we going to get to meet graham? oh, yeah. >> he'd be great on this show. i don't know who. >> graham. graham hancock. oh, look him up. everybody at home go google graham hancock. >> it's very exciting. he's the guy who thinks that atlantis was real. there was a lost civilisation. yeah. >> we here think it's real. that's our position. >> official position? yes, exactly. i would like to emphasise that we do not feel that way, but kogan does. yeah. that's because he is the way he
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is. let's finish now with the express crusader. if you were a box of cereal, what would you be? and why are room full of basketballs to pizza scissors? >> weird interview questions and how to answer them. so this is what happens in the modern world, isn't it? companies like facebook, google and apple use unconventional questions about basketballs, clocks , pizza, basketballs, clocks, pizza, scissors and animals to test your skills . scissors and animals to test your skills. i'm scissors and animals to test your skills . i'm not into this. your skills. i'm not into this. it's a pathetic got horrible ptsd from corporate culture. i don't ever want to have enforced fun. i want you to ask me if i can do the job and i'll tell you. >> yeah, but they're suggesting that they're asking these crazy questions to see if you can think on your feet. jonathan, if you were a tree, what tree would you were a tree, what tree would you be, i would probably be birch. >> okay. the job's yours. thank you. but yeah, you see what i mean? it's actually quite tricky. and you do have to sort of, of course, come up with a clever answer. >> i did a double entendre. it was very clever. >> yeah. what was it? why? >> yeah. what was it? why? >> well, the birch is also another name for a device used for thrashing. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> that's a switch. >> that's a switch. >> well, okay. well, that's what goes on in your private life. i don't want to hear about that. yeah, true. grotesque. anyway, that's all we've got. time for,
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the show is nearly over. let's take another look, though. at friday's front pages. so the daily mail is leading with poll that shows it's not too late to stop the starmer supermajority. and the times has got shoot illegal migrants, said reform campaigner . illegal migrants, said reform campaigner. the i is leading with private school fees, vat and reeve's first budget but delayed until 2025 and loophole closed the telegraph. farage is a putin appeaser, says sunak, and the express is leading with bbc paid tv audience to appear at leaders debate. the daily star has this thing about insects coming out of the toilet, it's a useless story, but we did cover it nevertheless. that's all we've got time for. thanks ever so much to my guests, cressida wetton and jonathan kogan. we are back tomorrow at the same time, and by the way, if you're watching the repeat at 5 am, then please do stick around, because now it is time for breakfast. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hi there, it's time for the
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latest update from the met office for gb news. cool atlantic winds return across the uk this weekend. that means blustery showers, especially for northern parts, but some drier and brighter interludes too , and brighter interludes too, especially across southern parts. low pressure and unseasonably deep low is now crossing northern scotland. around the south of that low, we've got these strong winds bringing unpleasant conditions really across scotland, northern ireland, northern england, spells of rain or showers continuing through the night, the strongest winds pushing through northern and northeast scotland. meanwhile, further south, it's mostly dry apart from 1 or 2 showers for wales in the southwest, patchy cloud, but a cooler night for many of us. so 11 to 13 celsius by dawn . now so 11 to 13 celsius by dawn. now we start the day with those winds and the outbreaks of rain continuing across northwest scotland, northwest highlands seeing prolonged and at times heavy rain and the rain then sweeping into orkney and shetland. later some shelter from the rain across eastern and southern scotland, but a few showers here brightening up
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across northern ireland. compared with the last 24 hours. a few sunny spells but also 1 or 2 showers. a few showers there for wales , northern england, for wales, northern england, perhaps the south—west, but the further south—east you are, the dner further south—east you are, the drier it will be, the brighter it will be. there'll be quite a lot of cloud to be honest. across the uk during the day, but some brightness will develop, especially towards the southwest by the afternoon. further north any rain tends to break up into showers, but there will be some heavy downpours for the highlands. grampians, the northwest of scotland and that strong wind continues, making it feel on the cool side in the south, where we've got some sunshine and lighter winds 23 celsius. so not too unpleasant. we start saturday with a lot of fine weather. best of the sunshine. the south—east as well as parts of southern scotland, northern ireland. this finger of cloud pushes into northern and western england, as well as wales, to bring some light rain by the afternoon. but for many, this weekend is looking mostly settled. if a lot cooler compared with the weather of recent days. >> that warm feeling inside from
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>> good evening. it's 7 pm. on thursday. the 27th of june. and this is a gb news election special with me. camilla tominey. welcome to vote 2020 for the leaders . for the leaders. so good evening and welcome to this special edition of vote 2020 for the leaders . tonight we 2020 for the leaders. tonight we bnng 2020 for the leaders. tonight we bring you a sit down interview with the prime minister rishi sunak. it's exactly one week until the election. can rishi keep hold of the keys to number 10? last week we interviewed sir keir, sir keir starmer and yesterday sir ed davey , as part yesterday sir ed davey, as part of our vote 2020 for the leaders
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series. today we bring you the prime minister. >> well, having an election based on trust and what you'll do in the future, you haven't cut migration. >> well, i've been prime minister for 18 months, chris. >> and let's have a party. forgive me. your party? >> he was slightly tetchy when pushed on the tories record on immigration. >> you lose your seat next week? >> you lose your seat next week? >> no, of course i'm. i'm fighting very hard everywhere. >> and as you saw, there is not quite sure he can retain his seat. >> what did you think about that remark about you personally? yeah. look, he should answer what he means by that . what he means by that. >> there he was asking nigel farage to explain himself. well, with me to discuss this, we have voices from each of the three major political parties. we've got a cracking show lined up tonight. but first, here's the . news. >> thank you. camilla, i'm polly middlehurst with the latest gb news and the top story. one person in england has died in the ongoing e.coli ii outbreak,
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