tv The Neil Oliver Show GB News June 30, 2024 6:00pm-7:01pm BST
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good evening, good people, and welcome to the neil oliver show on gb news tv on radio and online. on tonight's show , i'll online. on tonight's show, i'll be chatting about a project called the hope accord, which amongst other things, is calling for all mrna products to be suspended. plus a campaigner who says she lost her parents to dementia because of the scottish government's strict lockdown rules . however, i'll also be rules. however, i'll also be joined by gp malcolm kendrick, who has a very different view on how the covid pandemic was managed and i'll be reflecting
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on the news that wikileaks founder julian assange is on the news that wikileaks founderjulian assange is a free founder julian assange is a free man. after a plea deal allowed him to walk free from a london prison. all of that and more in the company of journalist and financial expert jasmine birtles. but first, an update on the latest news headlines . the latest news headlines. >> a very good evening to you. it's just after 6:00. the top stories from the gb newsroom. well, in a blow to reform uk's campaign , a candidate has campaign, a candidate has defected to the conservatives, saying he's become increasingly disillusioned with the behaviour and conduct of his party. liam booth isherwood says he's suspending his campaign and will instead support conservative maggie throup to stop labour. he says that decision follows undercover footage of a reform campaigner making a racial slur against rishi sunak, prompting widespread criticism at an event in birmingham earlier. earlier, the leader nigel farage, claimed the leader nigel farage, claimed
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the campaigner was planted by channel 4 news as part of a smear campaign, though the broadcaster has denied those claims. >> this guy is a set up, he was acting from the minute he walked into that office. he came up with a stream of invective not seen since alf garnett was on the television in the early 19705, the television in the early 1970s, and some of it was, you know, turning moss in the wetherspoons. it wasn't even serious. it was nonsense. so i really feel that channel 4 or the production company need to be called before an inquiry. let's find out the truth about what happened. >> the prime minister insists an election victory for the conservatives is still possible, despite polls predicting a heavy defeat . rishi sunak warned today defeat. rishi sunak warned today that labour's tax plans would he said bankrupt people in every generation , and also criticised generation, and also criticised labour's plans to make private schools pay vat, saying that taxing education is wrong. laboun taxing education is wrong. labour, though, says its first steps if it wins the election, would be restoring economic stability and cutting nhs
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waiting lists. the party continues to lead the tories in the polls by around 20 points ahead of next week's election . ahead of next week's election. and in france, there's been an unusually strong turnout in the first round of parliamentary elections there, as far right candidates seek a historic win. it's been calculated at just under 70, the highest turnout in almost 40 years. president macron called the snap vote after the far right did well in eu elections a few weeks ago. his supporters fear the move, though, could backfire and give the national rally a chance to take power. if that happens, macron would still remain as president until his term ends in 2027, but he could be forced into an awkward power sharing arrangement with eurosceptic jordan bardella, who's just 28. installed as prime minister in the us . president biden's the us. president biden's approval rating remains unchanged following a widely criticised debate performance. a poll by morning consult found. the president retains a one point advantage over donald trump . that's the same margin
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trump. that's the same margin recorded the day after trump was convicted of criminal charges. however, 60% of those surveyed said the president should be replaced before november's election, though no alternative candidates performed any better in the poll . spanish police have in the poll. spanish police have called off the search for missing teenager jay slater in tenerife. the 19 year old, from lancashire, vanished whilst walking to his accommodation on june the 17th. according to reports. a guardia civil spokesperson said the search operation has now finished, although the case remains open. it comes just two days after the force appealed for expert volunteers to help explore rugged terrain on the island . rugged terrain on the island. and here a woman has been charged with misconduct in pubuc charged with misconduct in public office after a video allegedly showed a prison officer having sex with an inmate, 30 year old linda de souza abreu , from fulham, was souza abreu, from fulham, was arrested by the metropolitan police on the 28th of june. that's after a video was filmed
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inside wandsworth prison, posted on social media. she is set to appearin on social media. she is set to appear in custody at uxbridge magistrates court on monday. well inside out two has crossed a major box office milestone , a major box office milestone, taking more than 1 billion usd dunng taking more than 1 billion usd during its global release. in its just third weekend in cinemas. it's notched up ticket sales in record time for an animated film. the sequel to the 2015 original introduces audiences to a whole new cast of emotions inside a teenager's head with joy, sadness and angen head with joy, sadness and anger. unsure in the film how to react to the arrival of anxiety, envy and embarrassment . you'll envy and embarrassment. you'll have to watch the film to know exactly what on earth that all means. well, in sport , england means. well, in sport, england are trailing one nil against slovakia, heading into the second half as the squad hoped to book their place in the euro 2024 quarter finals. if you're watching on tv, you can see the fan zone in wembley , where the fan zone in wembley, where the atmosphere is significantly more
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sombre. now that england are behind for the first time in the tournament , behind for the first time in the tournament, kobbie mainoo started in place of conor gallagher in the only change to gareth southgate's starting 11, but england are now down to ten players due to injury and with a place against switzerland at stake, gareth southgate's side were huge favourites to advance before kick off. those are the latest headlines for now, i'm sam francis and i'll be back with your next update at 7:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> the world wide threat to freedom comes not just from the globalists of the world economic forum and their ilk, and their puppets squatting on top of the
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pyramid. those determined to rule, to take and keep control of what everyone is doing, to run the world, inevitably apply the tactics and make the moves we see around us bad faith individuals. bad actors do bad things. we know this or we should by now more insidious than the agendas being pushed down onto our heads from above are the many and varied divisions that have been sowed. at the same time, divisions between we the people we've been set at each other's throats deliberately, even more so over the last four years, until we are blaming each other for all the trouble. i understand why it's happening because i feel the same urge which is to build walls against those whose opinions differ from mine. i also feel the urge to find someone to blame for all that's happening, and it's easier to blame people. i can see than people i can't. but when we give into those urges, if we all behave this way , blaming each
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behave this way, blaming each other, excluding others when we should be welcoming them, we do the baddies work for them. they must be laughing at us now , must be laughing at us now, laughing all the way to the bank. this atomising of people, the cutting of ties that should bind, making enemies of anyone and everyone ends in a place where no one believes a word anyone else says , where no one anyone else says, where no one trusts that anyone else is acting in good faith. as martin says in the 1931 dracula movie, they're all crazy except me and you. sometimes i have my doubts about you. it's a zero sum game . about you. it's a zero sum game. i watched the coverage of the release of journalist julian assange. it's been reported that he and his team reached a deal with his persecutors, one that fings with his persecutors, one that rings alarm bells for human rights organisations. he and wikileaks had published hundreds of thousands of classified documents that laid bare the murky goings on of the us
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government, and in response, they went after him with everything they had aided and abetted by the government of the united kingdom. after nearly 15 years of incarceration of one sort or another, incarceration without trial. assange is a free man, and already he is being torn down in all manner of ways, not least on account of whatever was in the fine print of the plea deal . was in the fine print of the plea deal. human rights organisations fear the consequences of any pledge not to publish classified information. they fear the consequences for the first amendment to the us constitution. the consequences for freedom of speech, freedom of the press. i'm no closer to the truth of it all than any other member of the public, but there's no missing the determination out there even now, by all manner of commentators. great and small, to seek to portray assange as a sinner someone not to be trusted. assange is just one man. but what has happened to him.7 what man. but what has happened to him? what is still happening to
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him, serves as a warning of what can happen to anyone. in a world where freedom is regarded not as an inalienable right of all, but as conditional grace and favour. a temporary pass handed down by the powerful , and that might be the powerful, and that might be snatched away at any time for any reason or for no reason. when governments snatched away our freedom on the pretext of what they insisted was a pandemic, a small and fragile coalition formed in opposition, questioning lockdowns, questioning lockdowns, questioning mandates for masks and jabs. by now that early unity has fractured as elements within found it easier to shout down and tear down those notionally on their own side than to keep directing their fire towards the truly guilty into those cracks flowed the meddling of those guilty , meddling of those guilty, exploiting the divisions and creating as many new ones as possible. now the factions, angry and frustrated by all that's truly wrong, are entrenched in their own small
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camps. camps that are getting smaller by the day, lobbing grenades at one another. while it remains as true as on day one of all the malevolent nonsense of all the malevolent nonsense of the covid debacle that none of the covid debacle that none of the covid debacle that none of the guilty are being held to account, one voice after another asking some good questions has been ripped to shreds , been ripped to shreds, discredited and cast down not by the enemy, but by their own side. there's a purity test out there that none, no one can pass any past failing, real or imagined, is deemed to be grounds for cancellation by our own side. the most unforgivable sin of all is not having been aware and vocal soon enough of having taken too long to realise what was going on. and this accusation is used to silence and censor almost at will. among the most effective slurs applied with equal vigour by both the bad actors and those supposed to be fighting for freedom, is that of controlled opposition. i looked up the term and found
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controlled opposition is the use of black propaganda and saboteurs who claim to oppose a particular faction but are in fact working for the faction. i've lost count of how many times i've been labelled controlled opposition. it's pretty much a daily occurrence, but it's thrown around like confetti. as a general rule, here's what happens someone finds an outlet for challenging some or all that's going on in this grievously and tragically altered world of ours, a world i struggle to recognise. and for some time, usually brief, they get a hearing. but as sure as eggsis get a hearing. but as sure as eggs is eggs, someone, somewhere eventually cries controlled opposition and that mud sometimes sticks for controlled opposition. you can also read shill and grifter. always. the intention is the same, which is to sow in as many minds as possible the idea that whomever is speaking, regardless of what they're actually saying, that they're actually saying, that they are either knowingly and
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deceitfully in the pay of big government or big pharma, or the intelligence military industrial complex, or perhaps worse , complex, or perhaps worse, unknowingly and haplessly doing the bidding of any or all of the above bad actors without even knowing it. either way, it's a crime that ensures a conviction every time. there is no way of successfully disproving the allegation of being controlled. opposition. the only option is either to sit down and shut up, or carry on under the weight of having been so attacked. as i say, this relentless attrition, the self—inflicted wounds, leads to one destination and one destination only, which is the bleeding to death of any hope of concerted opposition, as well as controlled opposition, shill and grifter. those speaking out are usually labelled from a cornucopia of damning insults anti—semite, racist , putin anti—semite, racist, putin apologist, anti—vaxxer, granny killer , far right conspiracy killer, far right conspiracy theorist. take your pick and
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apply liberally. julian assange, his character has been under attack by some by some for years. whomever is stoking it . years. whomever is stoking it. the intended end point is the same to sow distrust, to have as many people as possible question motives and intent. these tactics make lonely outcasts of us all. another consequence has been that anyone minded to raise their voice, to stand up, must face the withering fire, not just of the state and the puppets of the state, but of the very people they are seeking to stand alongside and help. it's in this way that the baddies always win. there are so many lines by which to be divided creed, colour , class, gender, creed, colour, class, gender, politics, nationality. the list is endless . politics, nationality. the list is endless. in order to turn the tables on the forces ranged against us, we have to set aside differences, real and imagined. remember as well that my enemy's enemy is my friend . there will enemy is my friend. there will come a time when the war is
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finally won , when there might be finally won, when there might be a point in revisiting all those things that divide us as unique individuals. but for now , those individuals. but for now, those differences must be set aside. the real threat to freedom is not posed by those alongside us, by those we can see the real threat comes from above, from that thin veneer made of the parasite class that so successfully over and over and over again, sets ordinary people against other ordinary people, drives us to hurt one another so the parasites can, metaphorically at least, suck our blood within that fragile freedom coalition where the only unifying factor and the only one we need is awareness that we are being played by those determined to control and exploit the mass of the population in every conceivable way . within that conceivable way. within that coalition, we trip time and again over our own feet, and we do this by holding each other to an infinitely higher standard than those we should be concentrating on fighting and
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tearing down a newly fledged voice whenever it appears, is instantly scrutinised for every word and deed, present and past. that new voice might make good point. after good point, ask pertinent question after pertinent question after pertinent question. but always the moment comes when the grievance archaeologists unearth some or other past remark or behaviour, or when the voice is heard to say just one thing out of line, and then the purity test is applied. the speaker is always judged to have failed and the voice is silenced. and who wins? who gains the enemy every time? the simple fact of the matter is that it's unity we need, and a realisation that while we all have our imperfections and our past transgressions, we must allow for those . forgive those, at for those. forgive those, at least until the war is won. another simple fact is that the enemy is so much better at all of this than we are not least because they've been at their corrupt and corrupting business for so long now. they say it takes 10,000 hours of practice and repetition to master a
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skill. well, the enemy has been at it for a lot longer than that. whatever their differences, however much they might dislike one another along whatever lines they divide in terms of their objectives, they are utterly brilliant at sticking together to get what they want. they make mistake after mistake, get things wrong over and over, lie into our faces. but do you see them tear each other down? no. the past few years make it plain. they pushed a pandemic. they pushed product that may have been neither safe nor effective into billions of people. they provoke war and sacrifice the hundreds of thousands for the sole aim of making and laundering money. they get caught lying . they they get caught lying. they refuse point blank, refuse to contemplate the dreadful consequences of what they did. that exposed for all of these crimes, and more besides. that exposed for all of these crimes, and more besides . and crimes, and more besides. and are any of them ever held to account on the contrary, the usual suspects, all the guilty parties now have more prestigious jobs, more money. the reputations are untouched and unblemished. the politicians among them have the unmitigated
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gall to for stand re—election. and which is the worst of all? they are collectively closer to their master's objectives than ever before. but we are goaded into hating one another, distrusting one another. our enemy stands shoulder to shoulder to get where we want to be, to achieve what we want to achieve. being the protection of our freedom. we have to stop demanding of each other the condition of having been right about everything, every moment, if any mistake, any failing, is always grounds for exile to outer darkness, then we all lose in the end. here's the thing. back in the old world, the ira used to torment the british army by saying, you have to be lucky. every day we only have to be lucky once. we let the state away with one mistake after another, while at the same time demanding a flawless perfect record from each other , forcing record from each other, forcing each other to have to be lucky every day . not just to never every day. not just to never make a mistake in the present or future , but to have made no future, but to have made no mistakes in the past either.
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that won't work, because that's not possible. the state is already hard at work presenting opponents to their will as one sort of terrorist or another, when by now we should be aware of who is actually aiming to terrify us. the ones in elected office. the baddies make their own luck and they do it by setting aside their differences , setting aside their differences, tolerating the infinite failings of which every one of them is guilty individually and collectively, and instead simply sticking together and ruthlessly backing each other up until the job is done. to have any real hope of finally turning the tables on our adversary , we must tables on our adversary, we must learn to do likewise and quickly . joining me this week for the duration of the show, friend and journalist jasmine birtles. jasmine, do you know what i mean? when i say i thought at the beginning that we were getting somewhere and that we were all going to stick together, and then it just fell away like sand in the face of a
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tide. it does feel like it. >> and everything that you've been saying is, is, is elements that i've been noticing. but what i was thinking is it's what you see in families, in churches, in charities, in political parties. the worst is from the inside. when you have attacks from the outside, you can get together and as you say, attack that and that can put you together. but when you start to have infighting and you find it in companies as well, i mean, i remember working with one company, a big one, that took no nofice company, a big one, that took no notice at all of their competitors , all they want. each competitors, all they want. each department was like those those awful people upstairs. there was constantly competing with that other department, whereas they should have been putting their firepower against their competitors. and so it's not just in the freedom movement, it's not just in the movement of people who are trying to push for a new and better world, it's across the board, i think.
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>> where where do you think it comes from? i mean, i was suggesting that the, the, the forces, you know, ranged against us have been at whatever they're at for a long time. oh, yes. is it just an experience or is it because so many of us have blundered into the arena and, and we don't have the we don't have the, the practice. >> it's human nature. i think, you know, honestly and in a sense, the kind of people who are standing up and seeing what they're awake, they're seeing what's going wrong. quite often we we're more aware of wrong things. and when we'll point them out, we're quite sort of difficult people in many cases. that's why we're able to stand, you know, but people who are compliant who will go along with this, that and the other , this, that and the other, they're the ones who don't understand why why we're standing, why we're so annoyed, why we're so angry, and upset. >> and the controlled opposition . yes. that's i mean, and i've seen it. it's not just me. i've seen it. it's not just me. i've seen it. it's not just me. i've seen it applied to everybody
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else. oh, no, don't listen to them. that's controlled opposition. that's a, that's a, that's a mossad asset. that's a cia operative. that's a yeah, i'll come on. >> gb news are constantly described as that. absolutely, tucker carlson, whoever you like, certainly russell brand, all the time i'm hearing him and as you say , it's strewn around as you say, it's strewn around like confetti. it's very difficult to speak against, but it's very difficult to prove as well. so it's one of those things it just sort of hangs in the air and does nobody any good other than as you say, the forces that we're trying to fight . fight. >> indeed. first break of the evening , after which i will be evening, after which i will be chatting to and jasmine , also chatting to and jasmine, also doctor claire craig, who has set up the hope accord, which among other things, is calling for all mrna products to be suspended. plus, we'll be talking to a campaigner who says she lost her parents to dementia because of the scottish government's strict lockdown rules . you're watching lockdown rules. you're watching the neil oliver show on gb news
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welcome back to the neil oliver show . my first guest this show. my first guest this evening is doctor claire craig, a consultant pathologist who has carried out a great deal of research into covid 19. thanks for being here again. >> thank you for having me on your face here. >> now, you've brought us the hope accord, which i, i've looked at and i think it's quite a remarkable document. it's
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signed by various clinicians , signed by various clinicians, calling for, amongst other things, the mrna platform or product to be, you know , product to be, you know, suspended. how has this come about? >> right. so it started off, as a group of people who set up the people's vaccine inquiry in the uk . and that happened because uk. and that happened because four separate groups of professionals , the heart group, professionals, the heart group, the uk medical freedom alliance , the uk medical freedom alliance, the uk medical freedom alliance, the covid vaccines children's advisory committee and the perseus group had all submitted statements for the official uk inquiry and that vaccine module of that inquiry had had the can kicked down the road to 2025. and they've also got a situation now with sort of 12 days to hear 120 witnesses. so we thought, well, you know, we've done all this work. it's not going to get heard. it needs to be heard. there's no point just waiting to be heard. so we'll get together and produce something that makes that accessible for the public, because it's important
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information . so we did that in information. so we did that in collaboration with, patrick fagan, who talked about the nudge aspects of what went on, and also with a group called doctors for patients uk , who are doctors for patients uk, who are a large group of doctors with concerns who have been talking with each other and in contact with each other and in contact with others as well around what they can do about the situation they can do about the situation they find themselves in. so they've got, you know, one employer in this country, they've got mortgages and families to think about, but they want to do something about their concerns and, and several doctors within that group put a statement into the people's vaccine inquiry talking about what they've seen happen to their patients and how their patients have been affected by this. and that includes dean patterson , the cardiologist in patterson, the cardiologist in guernsey, who i think you've had on before. and james royal, who's a surgeon up in newcastle, ayesha malik, who's a gp in birmingham. and when they started to write the conclusion to their statement, tim kelly,
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who's an a&e doc, saw this and thought this is just got more value than just being the conclusion of this statement , conclusion of this statement, because the point is, it was something that all of these doctors could get behind, and we just need an ethical statement out there for doctors generally to be able to get behind and say, we need to return to foundational medical, ethical principles and to raise concerns about what's happened. >> it's a good point, though, that what you've been saying and what has been found in the people's vaccine inquiry is, is earth shattering. i mean , earth shattering. i mean, genuinely, it's earth shattering. and yet we haven't heard anything much about it at all. i mean, i'm a journalist and i haven't seen very much at all about it in the press, in the media, maybe a little bit in the media, maybe a little bit in the alternative media is, i'm assuming it's being squashed, but there must be a way that we can get this, this information out there more, i totally agree. and so one of the things that we've done with the people's vaccine inquiry is to give people, calls to action that
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what they can do to help get the word out there. so there's a letter there for people to print off and take to their gp so that their gps can come and see all their gps can come and see all the information on that website. and also maybe to your prospective mps, you know, why not, and so you know, there's the public can absolutely help with this. we need them to help with this. we need them to help with this. we need them to help with this because you're right that it's been ignored. and, you know, these are all serious, highly qualified people speaking rationally and carefully with evidence , and they're being evidence, and they're being ignored. absolutely. >> now, there's always an alternative point of view in all of this, especially this, we have now a gp, general practitioner, doctor malcolm kendrick, who's kind enough to join us as well. hello doctor kendnck. join us as well. hello doctor kendrick . hello. thanks for kendrick. hello. thanks for inviting me on. is this how do you react to this as a gp, you know, you're in the you're in the front line of care. and this this suggestion of a return to ethics, a pause at the very least, if not a removal of the mrna products. and really a root
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and branch, consideration of how the pandemic was handled and, and what that should tell us about the future . about the future. >> well, i think, i sort of hold up my hand. i was sceptical about a great deal of the way that the pandemic was handled, especially some of the things that happened in nursing homes , that happened in nursing homes, was, was, was outrageous in my opinion, definitely. and i think that , i think opinion, definitely. and i think that, i think part of the problem with the inquiry is , as problem with the inquiry is, as i've tried to explain to everyone, the inquiry is not going to decide whether or not lockdowns or any action taken where we're not appropriate. that really won't be what their remit is. it will be to look at whether or not the systems that exist, could be improved in the future . so i don't think we're future. so i don't think we're going to get any answers to anything from the covid inquiry, particularly, i think, when it comes to vaccines, i mean , comes to vaccines, i mean, clearly these these vaccines were introduced in a rush, in a
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hurry, that's true, i think anyone would support people looking into potential vaccine damage in more detail, looking into potential vaccine damage in more detail , the damage in more detail, the problem is that both sides seem to be making astonishing claims, andifs to be making astonishing claims, and it's very difficult to believe either of them, i think. did i read 46 million lives have been saved by vaccination . maybe been saved by vaccination. maybe i'm making that up. i'm sure somebody made a claim like that. >> is it not the case, though? is it not the case that it's not. it's not questioned that people have died and many more people have died and many more people than have died have have , people than have died have have, are facing long term consequences as a result of the mrna products . and at what point mrna products. and at what point do we say right, suspension, at the very least . and these things the very least. and these things don't come back onto the market. and they don't go into an even one more arm without without, you know, without some kind of review . review. >> well, i think that, i mean, one of the problem issue here
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really is that of course, in fact, i wrote a blog when covid started saying that i suspected after the, all the lockdowns and everything, the rate of, cardiovascular disease would, would explode for us, sort of mainly for, sociological, psychological reasons. and that's happened, also, almost everyone has been exposed to and has been infected with covid. so you've got an enormous, confounders all over the place here, which i think making claims of enormous harm are difficult, and i understand that that doesn't mean you shouldn't look at them and you shouldn't deal with them. but i think that, the, the hype, there's too much hyperbole, if you like, on both sides , but but you've got both sides, but but you've got to get people to listen and, and i think you start off by just that thought, asking for a thought, doctor, because i simply have to get to break. >> but we're going to continue
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clare craig and jasmine birtles. there are so many facets to this story around what happened to us in the time of covid, and ultimately, it's a story about people and what was done to people. what happened to people. and we're now going to speak to alison walker , who says harsh alison walker, who says harsh lockdown policies in scotland led to her parents suffering , led to her parents suffering, especially from isolation during the covid pandemic, alison gave evidence to the scottish covid inquiry and her parents, sandy and olive, are still in a care home in glasgow, thanks for joining us, alison. >> thanks for having me on. neil good to be here. >> tell us, tell us what happened. i'm always, always comes down to people. what happened to individuals and what happened to individuals and what happened to individuals and what happened to your your parents. >> yeah, mom and dad , but >> yeah, mom and dad, but dementia is a cruel and
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torturous disease. and when the lockdown first started, i knew straight away the impact that it would have on mom and dad, especially my mum , who wasn't especially my mum, who wasn't quite as advanced in her dementia as my dad. she still was able to get out and about and go out for coffee and interact, and the key was being part of the family, the key to keeping somebody relatively stable with dementia, which is a dreadful disease, is family life, is contact, is human, touch is mixing with people, is stimulation. you remove that, then you know the disease is just going to escalate beyond belief. so i knew at the start of lockdown that this was going to be a really, really , really to be a really, really, really disastrous for my parents. i got the panic at the start from various the two governments, scotland and england. i got it slightly and i thought after a month i thought this cannot continue. so i've been campaigning more or less since, you know, march 20th, 20 to make sure that we got in to see them, that to re—establish that vital
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contact and to be honest, it just went from from bad to worse. and now my parents, they're in a sorry state. they have no idea who anybody is. they just hang their heads. it's the most dreadful disease at the best of times. and the worst thing that could happen to them happen to them. and i know if i was to have the conversation with them pre—covid and i said, would you rather not have family or be locked away so you didn't get covid? i know what they would choose. they would rather die. >> it's desperately upsetting. >> it's desperately upsetting. >> and the images there, you know, the transformation that your folks have gone through is, is, well , your folks have gone through is, is, well, it's only heartbreaking to look on at that. what was the, what was the difference that was imposed upon you? you know, pre—covid, were you? you know, pre—covid, were you able to be just in daily contact with them so that you were able to keep all of it, all of it, all the ties that bind intact? >> yeah, more or less. i mean,
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dementia is a chronic condition. you're going to get worse anyway. but, you know, it was all about trying to stabilise my mum in particular. and we kept her stable and she knew the family members. so, you know, she i took her swimming, i took her to ballet classes. i took her to ballet classes. i took her for coffees. you know, we interacted with with lots of members of the family. so, you know, i knew how important it was. i worked so hard at keeping her stable and then this this kicked in and i thought, well, maybe the lockdown is not going to be too long. and then it went for on two plus years. plus she's deaf. neil and she relied on lip reading to communicate. and of course they were all wearing masks around her. so she's lost the ability to even speak. she just makes noises. now you know? and i'll give an example of the impact on my dad. i got called in in april 2021 because we thought he was end of life. you know, i hadn't seen him for months. he can't communicate on any technology, so he's 90, and his brain has
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has , has, has really it's really has, has, has really it's really affected him badly. so i got called in, i got called into his room. i had to be fully suited up. as soon as i got into the room, i ripped everything off and my dad was lying there. grey barely breathing. i don't know what death looks like. i've never encountered it before. and i thought, is this it? i was all by myself. nobody else. other family members weren't allowed in. and you know, i put my hand under the covers and i grabbed, grabbed his hand and it was warm. and i said, dad, if you if you know me and you and you and you know me and you and you and you feel me squeeze my hand. and he did. he squeezed my hand and his eyes flickered, and i saw him put his tongue out, and he licked his lips, and he opened his eyes and he looked at me, and i said, do you need a drink, dad? and i got him a drink and helped him drink it. and from that day onwards, from that day onwards, he perked up, and he still with us. now that for me indicates the power and the hope of family. and that was that was taken away from thousands and
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thousands of residents in care homes and a huge breach of human rights, which the scottish covid inquiry has just confirmed that the adverse effect on residents physical and mental wellbeing outweighed the risk posed by covid 19. multiple breaches of human rights have now been confirmed. article eight the right to family life and the threshold of degrading and inhumane treatment contained in article three has also been met. none of this surprises the family members. neil, we knew this and yet we pummelled the government with information and evidence and neither government did anything about it. and the result is thousands died. not probably more through isolation, lack of contact because they gave up . and, you know, the rest gave up. and, you know, the rest of those loads of thousands of like my mom and dad now who are in a terrible state as a result of the lockdown policies. >> alison bear, bear with me, doctor malcolm kendrick, you still with us? >> i think, it's harrowing
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testimony. surely. you know, as a society, we have to. that's just one example, one family. and if proof if proof were needed about how much was wrong . needed about how much was wrong. >> well, i think that the lockdown policies in, in care homes was , was, i believe, homes was, was, i believe, brutal in the extreme, in fact, i can use the example of my own mother who is not demented. but, her view was essentially, i've lived long enough and getting locked down is terrible and isolating and i. i'd rather catch covid and die personally. i mean , i realise that's just i mean, i realise that's just one reflection, but i think nobody asked, and, you know , the nobody asked, and, you know, the care home staff were being allowed to work in different care homes and, and move from one to the other. and they were sending patients in from hospital with, with known covid. so, so the whole lockdown thing just seems to have been well,
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it's hard to describe the words for it. so i'm in total agreement here that this was an extraordinary and destructive actions that were carried out. as far as i'm concerned. >> thank you. thank you, doctor kendrick, claire, a last word from you, i mean, surely. my goodness. we need hope. the hope accord. i mean, when you when you hear testimony from alison walker about her mum and dad and a gp in the front line, you know, acknowledging harms done. you know, do we have hope that we can deal with these things in a more humane, ethical way? >> well, we can't deal with them in a less humane, ethical way. so yes, that's where the hope lies. you know, there's only one way we can go with this. and i would just like to say that in terms of the care homes in winter of 2021, with the second, the second wave, there was a study from cambridge university where they showed that that various variants that were in the cambridge community were all present in test results from care home residents because it
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spreads through the air. so none of these lockdowns and restrictions did anything to help these people. it was all harm. and the other thing i'd say regarding the cardiovascular risk is that what we've seen is that it used to be 2000 daily ambulance calls for life threatening and emergencies, and we now see 2500. and it was a change that happened in spring 2021. it was just and that is when it happened. so i agree that there were other factors , that there were other factors, as in, you know, the psychological harms of lockdown were real and we saw a rise in cardiovascular deaths in young people in autumn of 2020 because thatis people in autumn of 2020 because that is real. but the vaccines clearly are a big part of that story. >> thank you doctor claire craig. thanks. judgement as well for your contribution. thank you. alison walker , that your you. alison walker, that your testimony is just goes right to the heart of it and thank you. gp doctor malcolm kendrick, it's only time that has forced to us bnng only time that has forced to us bring this fascinating, harrowing conversation to a close. it's another break after which wikileaks founder julian
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welcome back to the neal oliver show. now, here's something i wasn't expecting to see. possibly ever. but julian assange is a free man, and he has landed back home in his nafive has landed back home in his native australia for the past 14, 15 years, assange has been in a legal battle with us officials who accused him of leaking classified documents, which they say put lives in dangen which they say put lives in danger. but after a plea deal, he left his london prison cell behind earlier this week. to discuss this, i'm joined by the co—founder of wikipedia, larry sangen co—founder of wikipedia, larry sanger, a man as concerned as i am with all matters relating to
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freedom and freedom of speech. larry sanger, thank you for joining us. >> well, it's good to be back with you . with you. >> this is if there was a if there was an iconic figure in terms of the threats that are, that are being brought to bear upon freedom, freedom of speech. i think for a lot of people, juuan i think for a lot of people, julian assange could be would be that individual. what do what do you think we learn from this this development now . this development now. >> well, i think they didn't want to give donald trump a win by, by assange being freed under his watch. over, over the last five years or so. assange has grown to, from, from being basically a just libertarian
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hero to being, really a hero of press freedom and, and, basically , freedom from tyranny basically, freedom from tyranny all around the world. so freeing him was it had to be done, and it was only a question of when, isuppose it was only a question of when, i suppose that the thing that i find really you know, important about this case is that , assange about this case is that, assange represents a free press and a truly free and independent. independent press means proper government surveillance. in other words, we surveil the government, not the other way around , and, you know , an around, and, you know, an independent press in particular is essential. this is this means one that is not controlled by the very government. and
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intelligent, intelligence apparatus that julian assange exposed. and so really, his, his arrest, his, his persecution was , it was a, a strike by the deep state against, those who would try to properly oversee it . try to properly oversee it. >> do you think, would there be any cause for concern? i mean, obviously we don't know the full nature of the of the plea deal or whatever was arrived at that in for order julian assange to get, you know, to get a belmarsh , are there any should we be worried about any of that? you know, this, this idea, this will have discouraged anyone from ever again having the temerity, so to speak , to publish so to speak, to publish classified documents . classified documents. >> yeah, i that certainly is a concern , but, you know,
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concern, but, you know, i actually think there's enough really bold, passionate, journalists out there still that, that this isn't over. i do think, in fact, that there are possibly julian and himself will continue, and others will continue. i, i think the fact that he, he had to spend so much time in prison for the crime of journalism , basically, that in journalism, basically, that in itself was, was the great damage done to press freedom. frankly, the fact that he has gotten gotten out and, was sentenced to time served. well, i think that actually, that is a qualified
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win , i would think. but still, win, i would think. but still, i mean, it's, it's a shame that he ended up , mean, it's, it's a shame that he ended up, having any sentence imposed on him at all. >> larry. >> larry. sanger >> larry. sanger i'm >> larry. sanger i'm just >> larry. sanger i'm just short of time this evening, but thank you so much. we will speak again on related matters sometime very soon. thank you. larry. sanger. jasmine what was your reaction to what's happened here? there's so much being said about julian assange, about the case. what was your response to this sudden news? >> well, like like larry , i >> well, like like larry, i think there's been a shift of thought and it's been a political hot potato. nobody wanted to be the ones to , to be wanted to be the ones to, to be against seen to be against freedom. and i think there's been a massive shift of thought amongst the public worldwide in the last few years. and i'm an example of it because i remember at at first when assange came out, you know, he and he was attacked for what he'd done . i attacked for what he'd done. i thought, oh, this is terrible. he's he's exposed all sorts of
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spies and etc. and then gradually i realised , no, what gradually i realised, no, what he'd done was exposed. what various american presidents had done.the various american presidents had done. the wars, the war mongering, all this wickedness. so i then became somebody who, you know, stood with banners outside of the courts. >> you've been there and fought the fight. >> yeah, i have jasmine, thank you so much forjust now. >> that's it for the neil oliver show on tv this week. that's the end of the tv hour, but there's plenty more coming online @gbnews .com. so you know where to be. for the rest, i'll be continuing the discussions with more guests and always in the company of my fabulous panellists, jasmine birtles. free speech nation is up next and i'll see you next week. >> in the gb newsroom we bring you the news as it happens with our team of dedicated journalists across the uk. >> gb news brings you accurate reporting of the day's topical agenda. >> when the news breaks wherever and whenever it's happening,
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a very good evening. you're with gb news i'm sam francis. it is just after 7:00. the top story from the newsroom tonight. well, in a blow to reform uk's campaign, a candidate has defected to the conservatives, saying he's become increasingly disillusioned with the behaviour and the conduct of his party. liam booth. isherwood says he's suspending his campaign and will instead support conservative maggie throup to stop labour. the party's already withdrawn support for three candidates accused of making offensive comments, and one activist has been recorded making a racial slur about the prime minister. well, at an event in birmingham
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