going to become the soft we are going to become the soft touch of europe when it comes to illegal migration. we've had two debates head to head , and anyone debates head to head, and anyone who's watched them will have seen that keir starmer just simply can't answer the question what would he do with illegal migrants that come to our country? he doesn't have a plan. ihave country? he doesn't have a plan. i have a plan, rishi sunak. >> meanwhile, sir keir starmer says he'll have to make tough choices to deal with a very difficult inheritance if he wins power. on thursday , the leader power. on thursday, the leader also says a clear mandate is needed to repair britain's economy, and warns apathy about voting could lead to another five years of the conservatives. the shadow paymaster general, jonathan ashworth, told gb news earlier on today. jonathan ashworth, told gb news earlier on today . a vote for earlier on today. a vote for labouris earlier on today. a vote for labour is a vote for change. >> there are lots of people who still deciding, lots of people are still weighing up their options, but honestly, if you want to change this country, you've got to come out and vote labour voting for any of the other parties helps rishi sunak get re—elected. so if you don't

want to switch on gb news on friday morning and hear that rishi sunak has been re—elected , rishi sunak has been re—elected, if you don't want to wake up to that vote, labour on thursday a little bit of news about wimbledon, which opened with its first day today, and tennis champion emma raducanu beat mexico's renata zarazua in the first round. >> the classic british tennis tournament opening today. as i said, with reigning champion alcaraz looking to retain his title throughout the championships. meanwhile, cameras captured a wonderful moment on centre court today as the crowd rose in applause for the crowd rose in applause for the entrance of sir david attenborough. just as shimming in front of david beckham there to get his seat. another famous david and andy murray. we understand, expected to decide tomorrow morning whether or not he's going to make a final singles appearance or whether he'll join his brother in the doubles matches. two time former champion in a race against time.

struggling with a back injury. we'll know tomorrow morning. all the latest here on gb news. those are the latest news headlines, time now for headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. you'll look at the next stage newspapers with three comedians me, simon evans. tonight i'm joined by a pair of jolly good eggs. we have josh howie and steve and alan. >> i don't know why they're referring to as eggs, i think. >> well, you're an egg as well. three. three eggs, i suppose that's the idea. >> i'm offended. yeah at least a microaggression. >> i think that might be a medium sized one, to be honest. >> air. >> air. >> hello. >> hello. >> that's straight on it. >> that's straight on it. >> right. let's have a look at our front pages . our front pages. microaggressions is inside the

papers tonight. but on the front pages we have wimbledon, of course, and britain's forges. sorry, force's not ready for conflict of any scale. that doesn't sound good. the telegraph, royal mail blamed for postal vote chaos . the guardian postal vote chaos. the guardian labour would take global lead on climate. that's miliband ed or dave doesn't say i. news, labour faces up to prospect of far right neighbour in france with early talks and the times. starmer, a big majority would be best for britain . best for britain. >> and finally, the daily star. oh, balls, that refers unusually to the football rather than the wimbledon. >> so those are your front pages. so we will begin with the telegraph. josh >> yeah. >> yeah. >> royal mail blamed for postal vote chaos. >> so this is supposedly happening in about 70 constituencies. there have been

complaints and i didn't realise how popular it was. i think they're saying it's up to 25% of they're saying it's up to 25% of the vote now. amazing, yeah. so it's a it's a big deal. it's about 10 million people are thought to do that. there are workarounds to do the postal vote. okay. and, but there are workarounds in that. if you haven't had it, some of them haven't had it, some of them haven't been delivered yet. some of them, they're afraid that it's not going to get there in time. but i believe it says or it says here, whether you're going to believe the daily telegraph, i'll believe him this time, that you can just take the postal vote with you if you're afraid of it not getting back and counted, you could just take it along to the polling office and hand it in and hand it in basically with a bit of so it wouldn't be a postal vote then? technically not. no. okay. but at least it would. >> or you could do what america do and just have them delivered a couple of days later, right? yeah. yeah, yeah. when you know how many you need. yeah. >> so, but it does have an impact. there's one person they talk about where they in the last election, they got in by 21 votes, and he's saying that he'd had a complaint of 20 people. so it mean he could have just sort

of done his job better in the meantime. and then he wouldn't be down to 21 votes. >> yeah. yeah. you shouldn't have to win by so few. >> but still it's going to happen. i suppose the whole point of democracy is that you hope to a degree, that your vote matters that much, right? i mean, that's kind of the so naive idea. >> yeah. but also i mean, i've postally voted for ages now as a freelancer so many times, i ended up not being able to vote because i was booked on a shift or something. so i vote postally and you, you accept that this is the postal system. have you never noticed what our postal system is like? >> three days at least? >> three days at least? >> yeah, there's a chance that you just your vote doesn't count because it gets lost in the post. that is the price you pay for actually managing to not have to go there because you've been booked for something. yeah. yeah. so i think it's i missed couple. >> i missed the brexit vote because i was unexpectedly in london and that has been annoying. not because my vote would have made any difference, but because whenever i want to talk about it, you can't. i can't say i voted here or there. ihave can't say i voted here or there. i have to say i didn't vote for it, i didn't complain. >> well, the postal minister is

looking into it. i suspect it won't go very far. >> what do you think about it? as a kind of. i do have a slight concern that too much postal voting allows people who are too apathetic to go to the polling station to nevertheless have their say. >> no, but they are. they're not apathetic enough to go to the postbox. >> no. >> no. >> so i think, in fact, i think the polling station is closer for me than the postbox. >> it's not a good filter. you don't think of people who can't be bothered to do the reading. >> i think it's people who know. i think they've done their thinking ahead of time. they don't want to be pressured in the poll. i'm in the box and i don't know what i mean. >> there is a theory that given the technology we have now, you could create a little bit of a puzzle, a bit of a maze online to get to your vote, and that would winnow out the idiots. >> do you remember the referendum about alternate voting systems? yeah if because you would have put numbers in in order of if you could have then completed a sudoku off the side of it. yeah. then your vote counts. yeah. without that, no vote for you, we move on now to the time, steve. >> they go with starmer. a big majority will be best for britain, says starmer. oh,

that's interesting, isn't it? yeah, but this is basically because the one of the angles of attack that sunak's trying to go for is are we're going to lose. we're going to lose so badly. but don't let us lose so badly that, that keir starmer gets a supermajority. it's this phrase that never really wasn't slung around. no one talked about it in 2019, but it's fearful. oh no, he's going to get a supermajority. that's like superm ajority. that's like nuclear supermajority. that's like nuclear codes. exactly. >> it feels like an astronomy or something. >> yeah, like a supernova versus a nova. i mean, most of the things he wants to pass a normal majority, starmer would get them through a supermajority doesn't actually change that much. but a supermajority is code for please don't annihilate us. we're the tories and we feel really scared. sunak is right. i mean, the last time we had a supermajority, it was an absolute disaster, which was what thatcher, you mean no, five years ago. >> five years ago? well, i don't think that was. was it? tony blair's majority was much bigger than that, wasn't it? >> no. i think it no was the biggest majority since 2000. no, since 1937. >> well, boris johnson.

>> well, boris johnson. >> yeah. boris johnson. yeah. >> yeah. boris johnson. yeah. >> the biggest tory majority probably. >> yeah. it was the biggest electoral defeat for labour anyway. >> it does. you're right . the >> it does. you're right. the implication, it sort of suggests it's like an american thing where if you want to change the constitution or something, you need a supermajority, right . or need a supermajority, right. or if you wanted to vote for brexit, some people said that should have been it's like that 66 to 33 thing instead of, yeah, it won't make that much difference. no, it will make no. in fact, i mean, i don't know, but i have a slight suspicion it might destabilise a labour government . if they have too government. if they have too huge of a majority, it might kind of factionalise, you know what i mean? >> they might fracture on that . >> they might fracture on that. on that topic, the front page of the irish. and i will come to you next. but corbyn says warn starmer not to crush dissent if he wins with such a suit. so that's the that's the real area of attack. well let's have a look at that. >> that's on the eye. is it josh. >> yes. well that is at the top of the eye. and hopefully this will be the one of the last few articles we'll ever see with corbyn on the front of the newspaper. let's hope that he does not win, as an independent, the main article, though, is labour faces up to prospect of

far right neighbour in france with early talks. now we're going to be doing a story later about marine le pen's party and how they did very well in the elections , but already labour elections, but already labour are basically being very pragmatic and, and coming out and saying, well, we're going to have to talk to france, whoever's in charge. but the interesting thing in this article is how it seems like already labour are kind of downplaying the far right ness that the newspapers certainly. and that changed trying to change that narrative early. and they're sort of saying this is they're sort of saying this is the quote here. senior party figures have noted le pen's party has already begun moderating some of its more extreme positions as populist giorgia meloni did in italy after taking power so already it's like because, of course, on the left in particular, there's this idea of purity politics. and if you even talk to somebody who has different ideas of how fairness runs or the system should run, then you should be kicked out of the of the community of the good. so the idea is already they're kind of saying, well, you know, maybe they're not as bad, or maybe

when they get into power, it's not going to be as bad. it's just interesting to see that narrative changing in real time. >> well, steve, the, the idea of far right party that is hard to sustain once they're in government, isn't it? >> yeah. but, he's right that the policies have changed recently to become more electable. even kurt wilders dropped the whole anti—mosque plan and then didn't actually get a position of power. anyway, i just i'd get a position of power. anyway, ijust i'd like get a position of power. anyway, i just i'd like to get a position of power. anyway, ijust i'd like to say get a position of power. anyway, i just i'd like to say we've get a position of power. anyway, ijust i'd like to say we've all i just i'd like to say we've all learned how to deal with a far right neighbour. there's a bloke who lived next to me before you just smile and go. yeah. no, it was better before and crack on. >> well, france were a far right neighbour during the war, weren't they. and we, we accommodated them for a couple of years while we were gathering our breath . finally, the daily our breath. finally, the daily star. steve, you've got a couple of minutes on this if you want. >> okay. so this is a football story. you've come to the expert. this is, jude bellingham could be banned from england. the headlines. oh, balls. and you'll find out why shortly. because he did this gesture, after he did his overhead reverse spinning roundhouse kick right there. he's got he's it's kind of if you're listening on the radio, it's like, what

michael jackson did before he go. yeah. and i often pre squeezei go. yeah. and i often pre squeeze i realised that like legally saying well it's what michael jackson did. it's often not the strongest position . and not the strongest position. and look he's just in that really difficult flip over of that . difficult flip over of that. he's probably tucking him back in. yeah. it was quite a, you know, question. >> is he has, it is quite a vulgar gesture. i wouldn't say it was necessarily worthy of a ban, but it was. the question is, was it directed at the slovakian bench or was it directed at his fans kind of going, i've got what it takes. i have, i have the traditional male source of courage. >> in a tweet, he says, it's an in—joke. i'm like, well, that only gets you so far. if you're in joke with your mates, is to stick two fingers up and do a nazi salute. how far do you think you get away with it? >> that's the front pages done. join us in part two as we delve deeper into the papers with french macron aggressions, we have starmer's poets day and still struggling with trans lose. we'll

and welcome back to headliners. your first look at tuesday's newspapers with me. simon evans. still joined by comedians josh howie and steve and alan josh howie, continue tonight's left leaning headliners with news from the new, right leaning europe in the daily mail. yes. >> so, marie le pen's , national >> so, marie le pen's, national rally won the first round of legislative elections on sunday. and, so they it happens in two

rounds. if you get a majority or as we say in the uk, supermajority, of over 50, then that that seat is decided, and that that seat is decided, and that that, that did about a third of them. and so there's still about half of the seats up for grabs. and that's where it's going down to anybody who got oven going down to anybody who got over, 12. yeah. >> so the lower ones are eliminated down to three now like a, a fairly hard left coalition. so macron in about 150 of those seats with the centrists who did the worst out of the three. >> and the left, they're working out a deal. so about 150 in total have dropped out from both sides to present one alternative party to the what is in this has that happened? >> because i know they just they they've decided now. >> yeah. it has happened. that has happened now. okay, it's interesting here. the mail refers to there were riots that happened last night in paris with, fires being lit, smashed up shop windows , and they're up shop windows, and they're saying enraged left leaning voters as opposed so it's interesting that from the mail to see this kind of language

because of course, everybody says, marie like it's the far right. yeah. but then to go left leaning instead of far left, which i would argue if you're smashing windows, is it, acceptable, steve? >> is it acceptable for, the, the left and the centre to divvy up the, the odds like this? and essentially thwart the what would normally be the expressed will of the will of the people? people? >> well , people? >> well, don't ask the people? >> well , don't ask the brexit >> well, don't ask the brexit party in 2019 when they stood down in areas to let the tories win. yeah. so it's it happens on both sides. yeah. well tactical standing down i suppose. but i love the, the, the fact that this has led to some riots because of course it has the french are brilliant aren't they. they're known for their not really caring. their may they give us the phrase laissez faire, but you upset them a bit politically and they will burn like a whole lorry full of lambs. i mean, this could be the biggest political event in france since the war, i would say, wouldn't you? >> i mean, this is a huge gamble by macron. so far it has not paid off and he is now i mean he's gone to extreme measures. people think that it hasn't.

>> but there are other people who claim that this was his plan. all along to get in, get in the that part of the far right or whatever you want to call it. and, and to see that they wouldn't run the country that well so that by the time it comes to his re—election presidential, then he might well be in it, this is going to be the first time that they've had the first time that they've had the right in power since the vichy regime. yeah. so it is it is a huge deal. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, steve, we have the telegraph now. they already have news of a strict work for rule coming in under the labour government. >> starmer suggests he won't work past 6 pm. on fridays. he did an interview on virgin radio. he said he tried to keep that part of the week for family time. it doesn't matter if he gets the job, he'll have to do the job. you know, he'll get the phone calls. but my favourite thing about this is what the tories have said. posting on social media you deserve better than a part time prime minister. the only way to prevent this is to vote conservative on thursday. oh, that'll do it. because you were heading towards the worst electoral defeat you've ever had. yes, but that tweet will mean you'll win all of a sudden. rishi said he never clocks off before 6 pm, which,

you know, maybe he should look at the pigs. >> nick, bluetooth coffee mug to keep him going, isn't it? yeah, like i remember that. >> feels like he doesn't want to go home. >> i might be an outlier here, but i actually admire leaders who ring fence their working hours and just say, do you know what? i probably have eight hours of constructive work in me a day after that , i might make a day after that, i might make errors. >> yeah. also he by the way, he says friday. yeah. like that's the weekend. i think most people feel like they've served some time. and also to have a leader who rightly prioritises family life, which is why he's saying that he does it. he wants to spend time with his teenage kids and his wife. yeah. and that surely that's what we're looking for is balance. it's not that he i'm sure he's a hard worker. and it's also it's like if you get the job done, who cares? >> absolutely minimal government. that's what we want. yeah. >> that attitude of work as well of like i do stupid hours. i'm up until 2:00 in the morning. as if that you're better like margaret thatcher only got three hours sleep. and then she grew up and got dementia. maybe you should. she was. >> i mean, she was extraordinarily highly strung and weird and driven, wasn't

she? and churchill used to, of course, to take a full, not a nap, but actually go back to bed in his pyjamas in the middle of the afternoon, but then worked through till 1 am, you know. yeah, i'm all for it. and, and both of them like to drop of the hard stuff as well, which, i mean, that's an aspect i can't imagine. i think they mainly went for scotch, but, you know, champagne. krug. god knows it's all. it's all the same, isn't it? it's just a matter of culture anyway, i don't know. >> did you know that keir starmer is 61? yeah. 61. yeah, yeah. and rishi sunak is 44. i really i just thought they were the same age. >> roughly the same age. yeah. starmer at 61 he does look a little bit kind of ageless doesn't he. i hate to say it but that's what hair does for you isn't it. >> well no it's going they've both got hair going grey early. what you don't want to do is look young when you get the job. and then look like rishi does now after a short time of doing it, that did happen to blair, didn't it? >> quite quickly. i remember that the only the only prime minister who didn't age was liz truss, and i don't know why that is. >> it's amazing.

>> it's amazing. >> younger. but of course they didn't have quite such ruthless photography in those days. staying with that, he retired. he he ended his 16 years in office. pitt the younger. oh, a younger than any other prime minister has ever been on on entering the office. >> oh, with a name like that, he had to, didn't he? with a name like that, he had to. >> well, no, i mean, you could tell he went in at 24 and served until he was, i think 38 or 40 something like. yeah, but this is an old that's like dog years, that's like 60 now. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> it's true actually he had the gout. >> it's true actually he had the gout . anyway, staying with the gout. anyway, staying with the telegraph still a little hesitation from labour on where the trans penny should be spent. >> i know, i mean the, the reason doing the story is, is to point out that it is still going on. which seems amazing that after the weekend they haven't sort this out. labour frontbencher refuses to answer transgender lavatory question. this is jonathan ashworth. and he's the shadow paymaster general . and it's just general. and it's just incredible that that a journalist can do a gotcha at this point. yeah. and which was,

you know, if you know, should someone with a penis toilet, should they use to not have answers is just is sloppiness. >> what would your answer be? >> what would your answer be? >> if they have a penis, well, they should go in any biological , biological sex determines which lavatory you absolutely . which lavatory you absolutely. or a third lavatory. yeah. you know. yeah. it's interesting. our solution here is to famously have that mixed gender bathroom, which i don't like because cubicles. >> yeah , i can't relax the bomb >> yeah, i can't relax the bomb doors knowing that jews might be listening. >> polly. yeah i want to know what you had for lunch. >> i tend to agree with you. i don't think transgender people should go to the toilet. oh, really? that's the other thing. >> but. but it is, it's always this, like one this, this, this question that they can't. it's not that hard to actually answer it. and, and you know, this idea that. oh, well , there'll be that. oh, well, there'll be unsafe in male spaces. well, really, let's focus on making male toilets safe for trans women, if that's what the issue is, what they're trying to do.

>> what this chap is trying to do is sort of devolve it, isn't it, to individual organisations. yeah >> yeah. yeah. don't. oh no. well that's what's so pathetic. he says i'm not a toilet monitor, which is obviously a pathetic get out clause. right. but it's like, no mate that you are, you are literally going to be the toilet monitor because you are about to make the rules. yeah. >> so you are the toilet only role that the wef still allowed domestic governments to fulfil this is toys, toys, the toilets. yeah, steve, the times have news from the scotus which is split like a banana on president trump's immunity, donald trump hails big win as supreme court grants official immunity. the us supreme court ruled that former presidents have criminal immunity for some actions while in the white house. let's bear in the white house. let's bear in mind it's the supreme court that trump managed to get three picks for or shouldn't have done that one. there was a bit of a steal. they should have let it was the dog days of the obama administration. one was, rbg thought she'd live like mumm—ra and turns out she didn't. one was absolutely fair, but now the

nation's top court was split 6 to 3. so those three is kind of an interesting number to the american political system, has always included the supreme court as part of its calculation, hasn't it? yeah, but obama should have got one of those picks at the very least. and then the democrats should say was entirely down to the failure of the judges to resign in time. >> having said that, i think the fact that he loaded that court in order to get rove, i've said this before, but roe v wade was an unnecessary self—inflicted wound because that loss on the midterms and now it seems quite obvious from the tactics that are emerging in the democrats apart from keep biden away from apart from keep biden away from a microphone for the next five months. yeah they are absolutely, drilling down on the single woman, the unmarried woman vote. that's obviously where they believe they will swing it again. nato all of their, propaganda or whatever, all of their talking points are to do with abortion. they're to do with, trump apparently actually sort of looking to not only remove the guaranteed

federal right to an abortion and actually impose a federal ban and that sort of thing. this is obviously where they think it can be won. >> but i mean, this this wider point about this immunity that presidents get, they i mean, it's one of those be careful what you wish for because this will stay the rule regardless of who's the president going forwards. there could be some mean like literally biden could now use this if he was still aware of the fact that he was one of the big talking points on social media today was that david aaronovitch made a joke. >> and i think it was a, you know, a joke. it was it was perhaps poorly judged, but it was obviously a joke saying if i was obviously a joke saying if i was biden, i would kill trump. now i would order in the assassination. but, you know, while there's still time, because he presents a threat. but of course, i mean, it is a joke, but things have escalated quite a lot in that direction in the last eight years. there has been quite an obvious campaign of lawfare. well, i think so. in the last against trump, and obviously very few people seriously think that trump wouldn't be, you know , equal and wouldn't be, you know, equal and able to respond in kind . you can able to respond in kind. you can see you can see it. i think it was a bad joke.

>> he tried to sort of say it was satire or whatever, but putting that joke aside, that is in now in people's minds to some extent, isn't it? >> what would what would, what would it take? i mean, nixon would it take? i mean, nixon would now be exonerated for instance, others have pointed out he was found guilty of. he would have been able to pardon him. >> well, it's all about the definition of what is an official act. and they've basically pushed that down to the lower courts, which means that this isn't this is not going to be resolved by the election, because even if they have a finding, then it can be obviously, retrial, you have an appeal. >> yeah. that's the main advantage to trump is that they've managed to just block up to, to push it on. >> but yes, it's going to be a really tricky thing because what they also were saying was the advice was that you should presume that most stuff is an official act, and that is a dangen official act, and that is a danger. and we have to look at trump's actions when it came to , trump's actions when it came to, january 6th and whatever. so it's ongoing. >> yeah. okay. we've got just time to squeeze this one in. josh is staying in america. kamala harris, who's worried that the democrats will deny her god given right to ascend to

power in the event that america elects a reanimated corpse in november. yeah. >> kamala harris worried democrats will replace joe biden with a white candidate. and there this is not her specifically, but her team have said it would be offensive to black voters if she was overlooked. if they did bring in the two people that they're talking about are , i think, talking about are, i think, governors of california and michigan, and they happen to be white, and she's saying that that might be offensive because in some key areas, the former, 95% support for the democrats, for biden , biden in the last for biden, biden in the last election has gone down to about 78. that could be enough to swing it. what they haven't, of course, mentioned is that she actually suffers from a worse popularity ratings than even biden. she's not a popular figure, so i wonder how she would feel if they did get another black candidate. and then if suddenly her concerns would actually evaporate . would actually evaporate. >> well, that's an interesting thought, but i haven't seen any. no, no, i don't think they will on the shortlist.

>> yes, she does protest. >> yes, she does protest. >> it's an interesting i mean, you know, so again, a lot of their own making americans. but their own making americans. but the term black, which is a bit of a catchall. kamala harris does not quite qualify actually. really. i mean, she's not an american. she's not african—american at all. she's south asian. i think she i thought, yeah , maybe, i don't thought, yeah, maybe, i don't know, mixed heritage, but she's certainly not like, you know, african american authentic descendant of slaves or whatever . she is not of that heritage. so i don't think she but on the other hand, she possibly does carry that sentimental, you know, the oprah kind of the daytime tv watching female vote who just see her as a kind of exemplar of girl power as much as a race thing. >> so she's not doing well in the polls. this is the thing. this is not about overlooking a black woman. this is about overlooking someone with terrible poll ratings. yeah, who got the job and has not seem to perform well in it. yeah. so if you want to, if you want to win, then maybe, you know, she's worried that they'll replace her. biden with a white candidate can't be much whiter. he's literally the ghost of joe biden right now. >> we're at the halfway point.

we've still got microaggressions to come. banks poking their nose where that's not i would have that was a microaggression. and the rabbi and the

welcome back to headliners. we're into the second half now. post—watershed. anything can happen. josh, a new twist on the time honoured suggestion box in the times. just don't begin the

message with. hey, guys. well, this is it. >> that's a microaggression. and i feel very triggered by that, law firm launches anonymous microaggressions hotline. the city law firm, and examples of , city law firm, and examples of, microaggressions are there, you know , subtle, often know, subtle, often unintentional behaviours or comments that convey negative assumptions. so i.e. using like saying, hey guys, to a group of people when and also using heteronormative language without heteronorm ative language without considering heteronormative language without considering diverse identities, which i do all the time. i'm triggering people all over the show with whatever that is, and also with like the ones where people pay somebody a compliment that they think that has in fact got a subtext, which is insulting. >> so i might say to you, josh, you're dressed remarkably well today or something, suggesting that normally you're unable to dress yourself. yeah, yeah. >> and it says here also. yes. deaung >> and it says here also. yes. dealing with older colleagues is tough as well. so, it's . you

tough as well. so, it's. you know, i on that though i do i realise that me the amount of comments backstage i make about louis schafer's font size on his phone. yeah. because he winds him up and i realise that is now a microaggression. he could report me on an online portal if someone showed him how to use it. yeah. so i'll be fine. actually, the funny thing about thatis actually, the funny thing about that is that louis claims that he can't. he doesn't need glasses anymore. he says he's trained his eyes to not need glasses. right? but he just can't see anything. just making his way around trained his brain not to need to read things. >> so. but this is a very top like, exclusive law. it's exclusive law firm. yeah. they make £2.1 billion a year. >> so is this is this a suggestion that the worm is in the apple, or is this them just kind of, that people are saying this is covering their bottoms. yeah. i.e. then if someone complains about something they could say, well, did you report it to the line? and if they haven't they go, well we you should have done that. and then we could have done something about it first. yeah, of course it does mean it opens up to

vexatious claims. it's anonymous. so people could be using this to attack other colleagues. but where does it go if it's if it's if it's vexatious and anonymous, then all it can do is there can be a, you know, you could target the memo. >> did you say this out. yeah. it's anonymous but not the person making the complaints. >> anonymous. >> anonymous. >> oh okay. yeah. yeah >> oh okay. yeah. yeah >> watch out simon okay. >> watch out simon okay. >> well now we move on to another aggressive entity, first of all, they muck about with nigel's bank account. now they're interfering with our diet as natwest's got a death wish. that's what i want to know. >> yeah. natwest angers farmers by urging customers to buy less red meat and replace dairy products with plant based alternatives. they've got a carbon tracker in an app. british farmers are upset. just let me lay this groundwork first. banks just do bank work and we can all. but that's not the world we live in. everyone wants to earn extra product stuff, and this is where i start to upset people because it's a carbon footprint tracker. farmers say , but only tracks farmers say, but only tracks carbon. what about biodiversity? oh, you want a biodiversity tracker? this is a carbon tracker. it tracks carbon. so if

it's not doing that, calm down. they say people should be free to choose to eat whatever they want. they are. it's a tracker and an app that you can ignore. if you can't ignore an app, you're one like breakdown away from listening to the voices. >> what will the app actually tell you? >> they just said, oh, you're using this much carbon. you could use less carbon if you eat more plants. british beef is one of the most sustainable beef industries, say the farmer. you want a sustainability beef industry tracker? then how are you not getting that? it just tracks a thing. they shouldn't worry because the only people who want this in an app are the kind of people who want to be told to eat less meat so they can sit at a dinner party and ruin it by getting their phone out, going, oh, actually, i use a carbon tracker. >> well, who do you think is upset? farmers or people who are fed up of banks telling farmers this is about farmers? >> yeah, i am upset about it. i disagree with you in that i know it's a snap and you could ignore it, but the fact is our data has been mined. our banks know everything about us or know you know how we spend. that's really the only democracy we have, arguably. so certainly with the postal vote going down. so when they can read what we do and

make recommendations to it and judge us accordingly to how much carbon we're using, saying , carbon we're using, saying, switch off your tumble dryers, share your car journeys, they can see how much petrol you're using. they can work it out. i don't want my data being mined . don't want my data being mined. then don't use it this way. this is opt in though. it's the tracker saying little step though isn't it? >> towards cute authoritarianism. it's like hey by corporation that if you stop eating meat you could save the planet and some people will be just kind of gently corralled into a little sheep pen. >> they're the weak minded people who'll be corralled in any direction. honestly, if the app any direction. honestly, if the app says, would you like me to track your carbon footprint? no. and i crack on with life. >> okay. >> okay. >> i just i >> okay. >> ijust i don't >> okay. >> i just i don't know , i didn't >> ijust i don't know, i didn't read anything about opting in or not to this, but the fact is that they the fact that. no, but it's like it's like, alexa being on in the background and just heanng on in the background and just hearing your conversation. how would you feel, steve? >> just hypothetically, and i'm not suggesting this is like half a mile down the road, but how would you feel if preferential terms were to be offered to people who a got the app and then improved their diet in in natwest? yeah.

>> then i'll be there. don't be outraged because it's been incentivised at the moment. all it is, as you say, is data. but to even get a pegi rating as an app, to even get a pegi rating as an app, it has to be opt in. you have to give permissions, so there's no way it's tracking you without your knowledge. they know so, but it's like the supermarket, the bank card, the loyalty cards. like they can see yourself and they know if you're if you're so triangulated, i mean that happened 30 years ago. you get sent vouchers for pregnant stuff before before people know they're pregnant. yes. because they can look at the food records. i it makes me i don't like it. >> there was the chap who tried to sue the supermarket. wasn't it because they were sending his daughter, yeah. that's right. and he turned out she was, tempers flare. josh. no joke. as a conservative rabbi walks into a conservative rabbi walks into a mosque in the telegraph. >> yeah. this is, quite a disturbing. it comes from a clip that came out online yesterday, conservative candidate rabbi abused and intimidated at a local mosque. this is rabbi arnie saunders. he's a the conservative candidate, in bury . conservative candidate, in bury. and he was invited to the bilal

mosque in prestwich. and when he was there, there's this clip of about five minutes long of him just being shouted at. harangue called a snake abused. basically screamed at. he's an elderly man, he's disabled and he's just getting this abuse from this person, screaming at him like about being invited to enter the mosque. >> and he was. >> and he was. >> yeah, he was invited, but he he and the mosque have worked together on various interfaith relationships. and by the way, when you don't ever have when, when, when muslim senior clerics visit synagogues that they're in any way abused. so the idea that this happened. but i think for me worse, watching the clip was how it was allowed to happen and how it was allowed to happen and how all these people are just standing around just watching this old elderly man being screamed at and abused and him sort of . and in the end, he kind sort of. and in the end, he kind of gets off to shuffle off. it's really disturbing clip. and the fact that none of the people there stood up to defend him go and went. this is not how you treat another human being. it

was absolutely disgusting. it was absolutely disgusting. it was anti—semitic . and i'm glad was anti—semitic. and i'm glad it's being called out. the, the, the mosque haven't made a comment about it, but it was really disturbing. and what it says about our democracy. and also i've got to be honest about racism within a percentage of the muslim population towards jews. it was disgusting. steve. yeah it's interesting that this is something that's sewn into the general election. it's not the general election. it's not the only story like this, is it? we see others and this, this, it's like a hidden issue that is causing problems in what should be relatively boring, national with international implications , with international implications, elections. but i mean, the clip he's been shouted at, asking, being demanded to answer some questions and then not being allowed to speak. that's the most infuriating thing. and the question , of course, are about question, of course, are about whether or not he denounces israeli activities in gaza. >> right. which is just endless, the distorting every conversation that you get now, every political, conversation , every political, conversation, every political, conversation, every meeting, every candidate is, is challenged on this issue.

>> he said, you justify child killers. i mean , it's blood killers. i mean, it's blood libel. it's updated. blood libel. it's updated. blood libel. it's updated. blood libel. it's disgusting. >> staying with the telegraph, steve, this sounds like an unusual alternative to cream wimbledon this year. >> strawberries tainted with palestinian blood. wimbledon hit by protests on an opening day. yeah, i saw the headline. i thought, i do because you hear they use blood in making red wine. so there was a chance that it actually could be. but it's more figurative. pro—palestine groups attack the sponsors, barclays there. it's every story about this is all about barclays, isn't it? >> so it's not cream. it's not strawberries being grown in israel. it's about barclays being involved in the because the fact that they invest money in behalf of their clients in places where the clients have rights too, you know, it's not against the law. >> and then everyone hates barclays, but also in this is this protest about making wimbledon bigger. and i found that interesting as well. people were sleeping in a park overnight to try and do a protest. one protester who slept in the park was blaise walton, who's a manager for the gym. david lloyd. he said in the tent there were six of us. i'm a

racket manager at david lloyd basildon. we were able to shower at david lloyd raynes park and went for a quick spa. it was nice and probably ended with so if you're protesting , nice and probably ended with so if you're protesting, remember david lloyd? no, i'm sorry, i think you've misread that. no offence. he was the first guy through the gates he'd been queuing up. i thought you were saying he's a he's not a protester. he was. they were. he was part of the protest. no, no, he was there. but they were camping for three days to get to the front of the queue. right. and so he's been going around. he was asked to move though, wasn't he? yeah because he was queuing. he was. they were parking in the park like because they were queuing for all your wimbledon needs. >> lloyd. not implicated in in the protest but anyway. but it's important. >> yeah. it's like but this is the hypocrisy of the of course these people protesting, it's like, can't people just enjoy tennis? it's got nothing to do with anything going on in gaza. and it's the same thing we saw at glastonbury this weekend. again, you know, they're going to enjoy that one. no one's pulling out of that festival that they're getting paid loads of money for, even though there are people who invest in israel. it's disgusting. again, more disgust. >> so disgusting. final section to go now with the latest from the and science sections.

too long. didn't read it's all in your genes.

and welcome back to the final section of headliners. so we have the mail now. josh and our welsh labour say, let them eat rabbit . very good. it's not junk rabbit. very good. it's not junk food, welsh labour slammed over nanny state plan to ban free

dnnk nanny state plan to ban free drink refills and supermarket two for one on junk foods with £2,500 fines for retailers, and they're saying this or they've been criticised by the tories as an over the top, drive to tackle obesity. but there is a real problem, with obesity in all of the uk. and something has to be done. and the idea that it's a choice i would and this is what the tory line on it is, is that we should be to free choose. and i understand that. but at the same time there's an addiction going on to processed food in this country. it's having an impact on people's people also have the right to live healthy lives, long lives without mental health conditions or all these things are triggered by it and the rest of society has a right to not pay billions, that it costs a year in the nhs to deal with obesity. so something has to be done. johnson's government, they actually did approve laws to start moving towards, banning advertising for junk food for children and

whatnot. it was actually passed and then they didn't implement it at the last minute. no one still really knows why that didn't go through. and we have to have a real conversation about this. there's a of course, there's a fine line. there's a balance between the nanny state and freedoms. balance between the nanny state and freedoms . but we have a real and freedoms. but we have a real problem. the world, the western world has a real problem here. i'm more in favour of banning advertising than stopping the deals because cost of living crisis, you know , eating bad crisis, you know, eating bad food is at least, you know, something that gets gets you a little bit of a buzz. although if you do want to, if you are a bad food producer and you want to sponsor my podcast, please do get in touch that is available. i love the fact that the tories have gone in on this saying like, no, this is nanny state, nanny state theory, and also let's get rid of vapes and let's stop people smoking. they did exactly the same kind of stuff, but they've just tried to find a cheaper way, have absolutely besmirched their record on this in the last few years. >> it's very interesting. we've mentioned his name on many occasions before. chris snowden at the iea writes about this sort of stuff a lot. what works, what doesn't work. it is far

from proven that these measures, if they worked, i would absolutely endorse them. if it didn't just make people's lives miserable without actually providing cutting sugar or putting the surplus that has shown has shown there is evidence to it . cutting sugar evidence to it. cutting sugar from products? no. >> and from the drinks and charging a premium. it showed that a lot of people are choosing now or choosing. it was the companies that made the move, wasn't it? so you bring in the sugar tax and it wasn't that people thought, well, i'll, i don't want to pay extra. the companies thought they won't pay extra. we'll move across to sweeteners. yeah, but there are you still have the you can have normal coke and you have to pay the premium for it. >> yeah. it's good to be. there's always that the carrot and the stick isn't it. and it does feel like it's always. it's endless stick. no one's eating the carrot. the exactly the but the carrot. the exactly the but the poor people are not being given any sort of anything to cheer them up. they're just having the decent as you say. the deal snatched away from sugar on the carrots. >> yeah. or toffee carrots. >> yeah. or toffee carrots. >> caramelised . nice, the times >> caramelised. nice, the times have a story about twin studies and intelligence, steve, that also functions as a very

significant example of gell—mann amnesia. i will go into that shortly. >> identical twins raised apart. match iq scores, 15 sets of twins help to shed light on how intelligence developed. you see that? and you think, why are they splitting up so many twins who's watched the shining and thought, no, we've got to keep them apart. abandoned during china's one child policy, that's what it is. they found themselves scattered around the world. i was thinking if i was in that situation, wouldn't you just pretend you've got one kid? if they're identical , like in if they're identical, like in the prestige, they could go on to such greatness if you just, you know, they go to school on different days. but it turned out that this is nature versus nurture. a great way to study. yeah, but what happened? >> sorry to interrupt you. it was they were abandoned during the one child policy, but they were abandoned because they were twin girls. they have to be identical girls. so they abandon both of them. they don't get rid of one because they're only allowed one. they get rid of both of them and hope for a boy next time. it's that bad. yeah. although it says over the 15 studied, 14 were girls. >> so i guess some parents hated

some boys. yeah, whoever couldn't have two. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and we find out by being raised separately with the same dna. the short answer is that it's more to do with your genes than nurture. so actually , than nurture. so actually, parents don't beat yourself up. you can't stop your kids being stupid . stupid. >> absolutely right. the thing that, gives me the gell—mann amnesia, which is where you realise that this is a nonsense story if you happen to know anything about it, is that this is so old news. they've been doing twin studies for like 40 years. robert plomin at king's hospital in south london, american academic, has written a book called blueprint, which i read immediately after discovering my own genetic origins. and he's been doing twin studies for decades, and with tens of thousands of. so this is so this provides absolutely no new information at all. yeah. data really bizarre. >> yeah. it's, but it is interesting because we like i think we want to believe that nurture has this big impact. and if we're going to love our children more, that they're

going to be thicker. but now i'm just going to give there's a couple of my kids. i'm just going to give up on now. >> well, you can damage your kids. there is still that option, but there's a limit to how much you can give me a break. let's take a look at what else has confused science correspondents lately. this is in the mail. josh. not much time left. >> yeah. gene. breakthrough dna cause of accelerated weight gain in babies linked to increased, risk of premature puberty in girls. so there has been this again. it's been known for a while that if the larger you, the fatter you are. basically. >> as that earlier you hit puberty. yeah. >> well yeah. and it's, there's a chicken and the egg element to it because you know, there's a lot more girls are overweight. yeah a lot more girls are overweight. but at the same time, and that has increased this, this they've invented puberty blockers now. anyway, it'll be fine . it'll be fine. >> that's true. the show is nearly over on that bombshell. let's take another quick look at tuesday's front pages. we have the daily mail. britain's forces not ready for conflict of any scale. the telegraph, royal mail

blamed for postal vote chaos. the guardian labour would take global lead on climate. miliband i news. labour faces up to prospect of far right labour in france with early talks are the times starmer a big majority will be best for britain. and finally, the daily star. oh, balls, those were your front pages. that's all we have time for. my thanks to my guests josh howie and stephen allen . steve howie and stephen allen. steve will be back tomorrow at 11 pm. with leo kearse and chris whitten. if you've been watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast and otherwise been great pleasure to speak to you this evening. have a restful evening sleep good night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . solar sponsors of weather on. gb. news >> good evening. here's your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office. looking ahead to tomorrow, there will be some showery rain around but also some bright sunny spells. but first thing for some it is going to be a bit cloudy and a bit

damp because of a frontal system that has already pushed its way in from the north—west and is currently making its way south eastwards as we go overnight. so eastern southern parts of england likely to have quite a bit of cloud and some drizzly rain as we go through the night and head towards dawn tomorrow. elsewhere, some clear spells mixed in a few showers possible, but temperatures really aren't going to drop. a huge amount, particularly in the east and southeast where we have that thicker cloud. it is going to be a pretty mild start to the day tomorrow, but like i said, a cloudy, damp, drizzly start here further north, a bit of a brighter start , particularly brighter start, particularly across eastern parts of scotland. a good deal of sunshine early on here. further west we will see some showery rain pushing its way in and that's going to turn a bit more persistent, a bit more widespread as we go through the day across northern ireland, much of northern england through the morning. it's looking mostly dry, some bright sunny spells. watch out for a few showers across parts of wales, perhaps northwest england, and then a real west east split across much of central southern england, with that cloud and that drizzly rain i mentioned across eastern

parts. most of that, though, will clear away as we go through the day. and so it is going to turn a little bit drier and brighter here. further north, a slightly different story . yes, slightly different story. yes, there will be some sunny breaks around, but i am expecting some showery rain to push its way in across parts of scotland, northern england and northern ireland. and some of this could be on the heavy side. temperatures around average for the time of year, just about scraping into the low 20s towards the south. wednesday looks like a pretty wet day for many of us. the rain may not be especially heavy, but it's going to be fairly widespread. most places likely to see some wet weather at times could even be some low cloud, some hill fog, and some strong, blustery winds to watch out for as well. for many , thursday looks like it many, thursday looks like it will be a brighter day, but could be quite windy for some of us before more rain on friday. bye bye! >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news

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