think it actually is quite patronising. and towards the general public. >> okay, well keep hold of that microphone for me, for now. lucy, i'll let you come back on that. i mean, this this is the this is the allegation, isn't it, that keir starmer is not being honest about how much tax he's going to make us all pay.7 >> he's going to make us all pay? >> i think there's a few things to say. i think most importantly is that labour set out and if you get a chance when you go home to look online, you can see the grey section of the manifesto, which sets out the costs and all the pledges and

promises that are made in the manifesto are fully costed and are fully funded. the labour party set out some of the areas where they are going to raise taxes, specifically around closing loopholes amongst other issues to do with private equity, things to do with non—doms people that you know live here and essentially don't pay live here and essentially don't pay tax here. >> that's not true. lucien, i'm so sorry i haven't finished. no, no, sorry. it's not true that non—doms don't pay taxes in this country. >> they don't pay. they are able to evade some taxes. >> they don't pay taxes. i've got the figures here. they paid £7.8 billion in income taxes last year on uk income. they pay vat, they pay council tax. they pay vat, they pay council tax. they pay fuel duties, they pay some taxes. >> they don't. they're able they have a lower rate of tax. >> this is this is the argument i have, not just with you, with laboun i have, not just with you, with labour, with every party that they pay, reduced levels of tax. >> the point is they could be paying >> the point is they could be paying what we all pay. the point is they could be paying what we all pay and should be paying. >> they are leaving. >> they are leaving. is >> they are leaving. is that >> they are leaving. is that not the risk? >> is it not the risk that they leave? and then you're already going? >> i don't believe that is the

case. and there are many, many asset managers. well, i was with i was with someone very senior in private equity over the weekend and they are fully invested here in the uk and looking forward to invest even further. and actually what they're looking for is economic stability, not the chaos that we've seen over the last 14 years. and that's why they want that change. there are other taxes that the labour party have been very clear about. for example, about taxing the windfalls on energy companies. they've seen exorbitant profits. and actually we should as a country be getting some of those benefits because we've all been paying benefits because we've all been paying the price on our energy bills and there should be some recompense and some money coming into government as a result of those profits. so labour has been clear where those taxes are going to be coming from. and the very difference that i think that we see at this election is an important one, is that we haven't seen growth in our economy. if we'd have seen the average amount of growth in our economy compared to our neighbouring economies, we would have had an additional £150 billion, which we could have spent on things like the nhs, for example. and i think it's absolutely right that labour has put at the heart of its plan how are we going to grow? >> it's not going to bring george in here because, you know, you former conservative mp, you've heard what labuschagne has had to say there ,

labuschagne has had to say there, which is that if we'd had more growth and all of this stuff, then we'd be we'd be even the average amount of growth. >> i'm not saying like the top level of growth, just the average. i would have taken the average. i would have taken the average in that extra £150 billion in our economy. >> look, we've got inflation down and we're back to being, you know, the fastest growing economy in the g7. again, these things do go in cycles. but at the moment, the latest figures show that the uk is outperforming most of the european economies. so the plan that rishi sunak's been pursuing is starting to work. it's been a really difficult time post the pandemic, huge amounts of money was borrowed to get through the pandemic. everybody was going to face difficulty, you know, with that. but i think the real problem that labour have is that they are, you know, really taking people for granted. they think they can get a blank cheque here. they think that people are going to vote for them anyway, and that they don't have to explain what they're going to do. and, you know, keir starmer has picked three taxes that he said he won't raise, but he's not mentioned any of the others. that's a that's a blank page. and it's pretty obvious what they intend to do. they're going to try and, you know, work on those other taxes, inheritance tax, other taxes as

well. move those up so that they can get their income they want. >> yeah. you know, i think it's interesting isn't it, george? you know here we are. the economy is undoubtedly starting to turn a corner. now you're taking credit for saying that inflation is down. now, isn't that the bank of england's monetary policy that's actually got inflation down? no. >> there's a big link with fiscal policy. unless you pursue a responsible fiscal policy, then monetary policy can't follow. so there's a link between the two okay. >> fair enough. but you know, irresponsible fiscal policy was locked down financing. it was eye—watering. the amount of money that was poured into, you know, if we'd taken a different approach, like sweden, we wouldn't have been in this high inflationary overload situation inflationary overload situation in the first place. so i'm not convinced that the conservatives have been that fiscally sound. and i think a lot of people are no longer voting for them because they believe that, too. >> just, just, just quickly, you made an interesting point to me earlier on, and this is in relation to some of the areas where you think tax is being spent incorrectly. is that right? >> it is. we were speaking earlier about sort of immigration and things like that, which obviously

immigration is important across the country and across the globe . the country and across the globe. but the rate of homelessness in this country is incredible. and obviously, like i say, immigration is important, but should we not be holding our own as one of the most important things before we look at other, other countries ? other countries? >> okay, and i take it from what you're seeing at the moment, do you're seeing at the moment, do you see any particular party that you think might might prioritise? just hold them out closer to keir mather. all right. go on. so what what do you think? >> it's a difficult decision because i haven't really seen i've seen a lot about immigration but not necessarily about homelessness in the country. so we're talking about preventing illegal immigration and things like that . but that and things like that. but that doesn't then that still doesn't change the fact that homelessness is incredibly high with legal migration running at £750,000 a year. >> that inevitably puts huge

pressure on housing because we're simply not building houses at that kind. >> i wonder, could i just ask ask you? sorry to, but i think it's just a really interesting point. this would you be happier spending tax money on hotel rooms for people who were like british homeless, do you think than you are for people who just come across the channel? >> i think to a degree, as i say, immigration is still vital, but i think the if we invite not necessarily inviting, but more people are coming over and we're supporting them with housing and hotels and things like that. but then the people that are on our street in this country for months , years, they haven't got months, years, they haven't got anywhere to live through, possibly no fault of their own because of other things that have happened with the government over the last few years. >> it's seems a bit unfair, you think a little bit unfair on the people that have struggled here. >> when other people like you say, not jumping the queue as such, but people that are here that deserve, i think, support.

>> i think people get what you mean. we are going to have to take a quick break. we can return to this. we've got a bit longer in the show. so a really interesting point. so great to have you. this is exactly why we love doing these shows, because it basically just gets ordinary people with ordinary views on the telly. and we can we can respond to all of that a little bit later on. but yes, coming up the leaders interview is in. oh yes, i forgot about this and it's not to be missed. >> this is now the fifth manifesto in a row in which they're promising to cut taxes and reduce immigration. they're liars. they they lie to the electorate. they get away with it. >> yes. it.- >> yes. so it. — >> yes. so we it. >> yes. so we did it. — >> yes. so we did our it. >> yes. so we did our leader's interview with nigel farage. we've already done one with starmer. we've already done one with sunak as well, haven't we. so we'll be playing you a bit of that. but next are labour going to be just rearranging i suppose our relationship with israel just reform have a putin problem. would the lib dems take us back into the eu? it's foreign policy. it's important

next. all right. welcome back. i'm enjoying this episode of patrick christys tonight. so far, i've got the live studio audience. we've got a few ding dongs on the panel as well, but. so far, we've ticked off tax immigration. i think we should do a bit about foreign policy. all right, so wars are raging in the middle east and ukraine. but what does each party had to say. >> we've provoked this war. it's you know, of course it's his fault. he's used what. but we provoked the invasion of ukraine. >> we believe in the long term, we need to be back at the heart of europe. >> we do need to work towards peace. >> and that involves a viable , >> and that involves a viable, independent palestinian state for foreign court , including the for foreign court, including the european court, forces me to choose between our country's national security and membership of that court. >> i'm going to choose this country's national security every single time . every single time. >> yeah, i mean, it's been a fantastic campaign for variety of different foreign policy issues, hasn't it? but who do people trust more? i'm going to go back to my chap on the front row here. now, i believe that

you were slightly concerned about what this election might mean for israel. is that right? >> so what what will so the, the result, will it have any effect on what's happening already in the middle east? >> okay. good stuff. so, so, i think one of the concerns, suzanne, is that if we get a labour government, david lammy has been very, very vocal about, you know, seeing netanyahu as a, as a kind of pariah. there's been talk of stop arming israel, recognising the palestinian state. so i suppose a labour government would well radically change our allies in the middle east, wouldn't it? >> well, it might very well. and of course, there's also the spectre of anti—semitism within laboun spectre of anti—semitism within labour. i mean, i'm sure luciana can talk about that. she's been a victim of it. and i'm sure you'll talk to her about that. yeah, but i think this is very worrying. we've seen an explosion of anti—semitism on the seats on the streets in london and yet people like david lammy have made their feelings very clear, and i think it is worrying . however, that said, i

worrying. however, that said, i don't think either netanyahu or hamas are really going to pay any attention. to be honest , to any attention. to be honest, to what's what's happening in london tomorrow. sorry, not in, in, in, you know, politics tomorrow. >> luciana, i'll ask you how you feel about this. i mean, there is a relevance here, obviously. how do you feel about the potential for a labour government in relation to our ongoing relationship with israel? >> if i can first answer the question, the point that sza made about what did characterise the labour party, certainly at the labour party, certainly at the last an election when it was under the leadership of jeremy corbyn, and that was the rampant anti—semitism, it gave me no comfort that in 2020 the labour party was found under jeremy corbyn's leadership, to have broken the equality act in this country and have been found guilty of intimidating and harassing its jewish members and having political interference. but that was what happened under the previous leadership of jeremy corbyn, the party today is unrecognisable from the party that i left back in 2019 and it was for me very significant when the party was taken out of

special measures by the equality and human rights commission and to his credit, keir starmer has turned around the labour party. there is no longer anti—semitism from within the ranks of the labour party . those people have labour party. those people have been expelled. it's not a safe space for those people. it's a place that jewish people can now feel comfortable in and are going back into, which i have done so and i didn't do so lightly. i'm not complacent enough to think that everything, you know, do you think they should recognise a palestinian state, though? >> because that is what they're talking about. >> so, so the policy of the labour party is to recognise an independent and viable and contiguous palestinian state alongside a safe and secure israel. the two need to go hand in hand. and what's significant about the policy, and let's be very clear what it says in the manifesto. it's part of a negotiated two state solution. and i think the point that i make is an important one that, you know, it's for not us to determine here in britain what should be happening in the middle east. it's for the people themselves, israelis and palestinians, to have that negotiation. we should be doing everything we have a historic, i think, responsibility to be doing everything along with other international partners, to encourage and to support that

process as quickly as negotiating with hamas, though, wouldn't it? >> because they are in charge in gaza at the moment. so, so, so because this is where i wonder if labour get on to a sticky wicket, because in to order get returns agreements, we did hear rishi sunak saying keir starmer is going to have to negotiate with the ayatollah and the taliban in order to get the solution in what in israel is going to have to negotiate with hamas in order to get returns agreements with the eu. he's just going to have to go there and, you know, smash the gangs and, you know, smash the gangs and sort out a better relationship with the european union without getting us back into the single market, which no way he's going to have to do a heck of a lot of things that nobody else has been able to do before. david lammy is also really massively slagged off trump. trump could well be the next leader of america. i mean, he's asking quite a lot from the labour party, i don't think i don't think that characterises david lammy's comments at all on trump, but we can put that put that to one side. >> i think, you know, through history we've seen where lots of countries, including our own, in fact, have very difficult conversations, whether it's with the ira for example, to achieve peace. and ultimately it's the effort and energy that's required both from people in the region. and for us, it is an

interesting example because obviously letters of comfort were given to the ira in order to achieve it. >> but george, i'm just going to come to you quite quickly. why should people trust the tories over labour when it comes to foreign policy? >> well, i think on the issue with the middle east and israel and gaza. it would be a great shame, in my view, to, to lose david cameron. i think he's got presence on the world stage. i think he's brought, you know, a well calibrated approach to british foreign policy. and i think it would be a terrible shame to lose him. however i don't think the british foreign policy position on israel and gaza would change a great deal. i think actually, there's been quite close alignment, particularly with keir starmer . particularly with keir starmer. yes, there's different shades of opinion in the labour party, but we have to remember that we as a country have always believed in the two state solution and we only recognised israel in the first place on the basis that they would agree to recognise a palestinian state. so that's a long standing uk foreign policy. the real risk, i think , is that the real risk, i think, is that you'll have a labour government. that tries to negotiate new

arrangements with the european union. the eu will demand money and they will demand that they can dictate our laws and you will start to undermine some of the freedoms we gain by leaving the freedoms we gain by leaving the eu. okay. >> all right. look coming up. still loads to get through the leaders interview. this one was with nigel farage. and it's not to be missed. plus do we treat the nhs too much like a religion? do we need a leader to get real about his problems in to order fix it? we'll have all of that on vote 2024 the verdict with me patrick christys. stay tuned. >> for that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office thursday is going to be a windy day, particularly for northwestern areas, but it will be sunnier. there is a risk of some quite heavy showers though , some quite heavy showers though, particularly where it turns quite windy overnight. tonight across northwestern areas, you can see those tightly packed isobars that indicates stronger

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of patrick christys. tonight. it's vote 2024. the verdict. >> now, i cannot and will not claim that we have got everything right. no government should . should. >> well, we all remember, don't we? it's been a rollercoaster. six weeks. we've had some gaffes. >> sorry to catch you. >> sorry to catch you. >> no, not at all. >> no, not at all. >> i know you've been in normandy. yeah. it all just ran out. there was, of course, incredible, but it just ran over everything. i'm sure we've all had a few laughs as well, haven't we? >> but when i grew up, my dad was a toolmaker. he worked in factory. >> you might be able to hear some chuckling here. i've got a live studio audience with me. they have a laugh at that every time. as well. but we've also had some stunts. here we go. >> we will, we will rock . >> we will, we will rock. >> we will, we will rock. >> what a massive stunt. and the odd surprise along the way . odd surprise along the way. >> so i am going to stand in this election . this election. >> my live studio audience is

fired up, ready to go. and we've got on my panel as well ex—labour mp, luciana berger. we've got ex—tory mp george eustice and political consultant suzanne evans. get ready britain, here we go . britain, here we go. well, when i come back, it's nigel farage time . he's done the nigel farage time. he's done the big interview with us today. so are we playing you some clips of that. and i'm also going to be talking about the nhs and particularly looking forward to that, because i was having a chat with my audience in the break and we've got some strong views. so i'll see you after the . news. >> very good evening to you. it's just coming up to 10:02. the top story tonight, the prime minister has said during his final big campaigning event that he is still in the general election fight . rishi sunak election fight. rishi sunak insisted it's not over until the final whistle blows, adding the

election is not a foregone conclusion. >> it is our job. it is our duty >> it is ourjob. it is our duty to make sure that britain does not sleepwalk into this and that's what i need. your help with, because yes, many people may want to say the result of this election is a foregone conclusion, but i believe in my bones that it is not. and i think you do too. >> and in his last general election campaigning event tonight, sir keir starmer has appealed to his supporters not to think that a labour win tomorrow is guaranteed. >> we are fighting for every vote and across the country there will be constituencies which will go down to the wire and therefore we will continue to fight until 10:00 tomorrow night, making the case. that change only happens if you for vote it. but it is a huge opportunity for our country. this is the opportunity to turn the page and to move forward, and i want people to go out and vote for change and be part of the change that i think will

bnng the change that i think will bring out, bring about such a different and better future for our country . our country. >> and the labour leaders emerged tonight with a huge lead in the final yougov poll before people cast their ballots tomorrow, the new projection puts labour on course to win 300 431 seats and the conservatives sliding to just 102 yougov's, also putting the lib dems on 74 seats and reform on three. well driving off in a pink cadillac to abba's tune take a chance on me, sir ed davey's campaign endedin me, sir ed davey's campaign ended in style tonight after a series of stunts throughout the campaign trail, the liberal democrats leader has now said there's no ceiling to his ambitions as the uk heads to the ballot box before driving off in the convertible. he had this last message for voters this is a chance to vote for something different , charles rae now, i different, charles rae now, i believe this campaign has been great, but we have a special job

to kick the conservatives out of government . government. >> and then to start repairing the terrible damage they've done to our country and us into us in the last hour or so, we've heard that ofcom will not investigate channel 4 news after reform uk claimed the broadcaster had used an actor in an undercover report. >> hundreds of complaints were filed about the programme, which showed andrew parker using a racial slur against rishi sunak. the regulator, though, has concluded those complaints didn't raise substantive issues under the broadcasting code . and under the broadcasting code. and finally, news from the us, where the white house is insisting that joe biden is clear eyed and staying in the race. after a report in the new york times suggested the president has told a key ally that he's weighing up whether to drop out. yesterday, congressman lloyd doggett became the first democrat to call on the first democrat to call on the 81 year old to withdraw. and

earlier, joe biden admitted that he nearly fell asleep during last week's tv debate with donald trump . those are the donald trump. those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm sam francis, back with you at 11:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> well, the general election is nearly over and it is, to be honest, a massive relief to finally be able to say that. but it is time now for our last leaders interview in our vote 2020 for the leaders interview series on the eve of the general election. so earlier today, our political editor, christopher hope, spoke to reform uk leader nigel farage. they sat down together in a pub where else for a no holds barred interview, shall we have a look at some of the best bits? >> i mean, basically, rishi sunak says, i know we're no

good, but they're worse. and keir starmer says for vote change without telling us what that change would be. and to be frank, they're not exactly the most inspiring individuals ehhen most inspiring individuals either. so i think me coming into it has actually broadened the debate. the problem we've had is getting some of the messages out through gb news. itv and i can't even talk about the bbc. we do. we cover all the views of the main party. you have given us a tiny amount of coverage as a channel, because ofcom have laid down the rules that the key determining factor in how much you can cover are the last two general elections i've never seen this ruling before this year, and i feel that all of you, as a group of broadcasters, as a group of broadcasters, as a group of broadcasters, are being really hemmed in by ofcom. i'm really sorry. the tories have increased legal migration to numbers unimaginable. borisjohnson unimaginable. boris johnson introduced net zero policies that would have closed down a

third of our farmland in our country. raising the foreign aid budget. point is , raising the budget. point is, raising the foreign aid budget was david cameron's greatest achievement. this is now the fifth manifesto in a row in which they're promising to cut taxes and reduce immigration. they're liars . they they lie to the liars. they they lie to the electorate. they get away with it. if i'd known what i was inheriting a month ago, well . i inheriting a month ago, well. i still have done it . but, inheriting a month ago, well. i still have done it. but, i mean, you've basically got two men who are competing to be who's the next middle manager of britain. that's what we're really talking about. there's no drive, there's no passion, there's no real leadership. and frankly, with laboun leadership. and frankly, with labour, we'll get more of the same, just a little bit worse. the trump team asked me about it and i said, yes, do talk to david lammy even if your politics are different. our relationship with america, in a world that's closer to global conflagration than it's been for over 60 years, it's crucial . over 60 years, it's crucial. >> okay, so we're going to be having a little bit of a chat with our panel, which political consultant suzanne evans, former

conservative minister george eustice, former labour mp luciana berger. but before that we have got this live studio audience. i want to make use of them. you've heard nigel farage saying some things that what's your view on farage this election campaign? some of the things he said there go on. >> well , since things he said there go on. >> well, since he's things he said there go on. >> well , since he's thrown things he said there go on. >> well, since he's thrown his hat in the ring, he's, he's a breath of fresh air, isn't he? i mean, let's face it, it was pretty. it was pretty dull, pretty. it was pretty dull, pretty boring. and basically i think he's added a spark to the whole political forum. now and so i'm really happy that he's thrown his hat in the ring, what i like about him that i don't actually like with the others is he's straightforward and he answers the questions. the other day, i think he was interviewed by beth rigby, and she asked him several questions exactly the same way. and he just answered them initially. and she doesn't seem to realise that he'd already answered the question. and so what i like about him is

he's and he's very appealing. he's got a great personality. and actually i think he really appeals to the youngsters because, my two my son's 18 and his peer group and obviously i do the dad taxi run. yeah and i've never heard them once talk about politics. obviously it's their first year being 18 year olds that they can vote. and i actually hear them and they do talk about nigel farage, a lot. >> well, he's massive on social media, isn't he? he's massive on social media. i think someone did the numbers on this. i haven't got the exact figures in front of me right now. but i mean, he was way, way, way ahead in terms of clicks and engagement when it came to things like tiktok for example. and if you have a look at the opinion polls of people aged 16 to 20, i think it is, you've got labour and then you've got reform now above the greens, which, you know , for that kind which, you know, for that kind of demographic and age demographic is quite interesting. i'll just pause it there for a second and bring it. suzanne, what would a good number of votes look like for

nigel farage and reform do you think? >> so? i think it would have to be something that was in excess of the 4 million votes they got in 2015, when, of course, nigel farage was leader of ukip and they got zero seats and they got got one seat, one seat, sorry, douglas carswell in clacton, which of course is where nigel farage is, is now sitting as standing , sitting, standing. standing, sitting, standing. yes, definitely standing . yes, definitely standing. hopefully he will be sitting. i think some people will think. and tomorrow, on the green benches. but yes, he if he can't win there, he can't win anywhere. i think reform are probably going to get four other seats as well. that's my personal feeling, possibly more. but it could of course very well be the case that they hoover up votes. but because of the way those votes are distributed, they don't translate into seats. >> george, if rishi sunak had called a four week campaign, then he wouldn't have had the nigel problem. but alas, we are where we are, as they say in middle management. and now he's got that problem. and as nigel knackered you , well, it is a big knackered you, well, it is a big challenge because, i've known

nigel farage for over 20 years. >> i was a ukip candidate alongside him in 1999, and my frustration really with, with nigel farage is he always tends to undermine the causes that he claims to believe in. so he undermined the anti—euro campaign by making it broader about the eu. and in those days, you needed to focus on the euro in the 2016 referendum, he undermined the vote leave campaign because he wanted to make the campaign all about him and his personality, and he tried to set up a rival campaign to the cross—party vote of the eu. exactly. and it was, very divisive. it meant that people like dominic cummings and others in the campaign spent a lot of time trying to manage nigel's ego, so he was very counterproductive. and who can forget he actually came out on the night of the referendum and conceded defeat, even though we'd won before anything had been declared. so i've got frustrations with nigel farage and look, the real impact of him in this election will be to take down dozens of other conservative mps, far more he may get. he may get 2 or 3, i get that, he may get 2 or 3

elected. he doesn't care that. i mean, he's declared that he wants to destroy the conservative party. that's his objective. >> but he thinks he deserve to be destroyed. >> well, yes. but people who are contemplating voting for him, i think they do need to think whether that is actually what they want. do they want to wake up with a powerful labour government with an even bigger majority than than it might otherwise get? or actually, do they want to make sure that there's a conservative opposition there? >> is there. is this your honour as well? the capacity for people in the red wall as well? a strong core working class, traditionally labour to vote go to farage and reform uk. i think. and there is also a point just to pick up on what george said there, which is when i was having a look at today, some of the polls about reasons why people are voting labour, quite a lot of them, in fact, a plurality, i think it was of people were voting just to get the tories out so we could end up with this quite bizarre situation where keir starmer gets a stonking majority, the biggest majority we've ever had and actually is not that personally popular. and i just worry that that might go south quite quickly. >> oh well, there's a few things to say. obviously there are so

many polls and i would urge anyone to if you know, the only polls that really matter are the polls that really matter are the polls that really matter are the polls that people will be going to tomorrow and the vote that they'll be exercising. unless people actually go and vote, then we're not going to see change in this country. and there is a clear choice because, as you've heard, you know, the maximum that reform may get is a couple of seats, but there are 600 seats up for grabs at this general election. the choice is very clear. it's between five more years of chaos with rishi sunak or change with do you think keir starmer will go the full five years? absolutely. i really do think he will. and it's not just the first five years. it's about as he set out a decade of renewal, because that's what we need as a country to turn around what we've seen over the last 14 years. but i think there's a number of things that i would just just raise in terms of what you just heard and saw, i think it's interesting to see kind of the montage. obviously we haven't seen that full interview, but interestingly, it was all commentary. we didn't actually hear anything about what nigel farage himself and his party would do. and, and i and i heard

what was said by the audience member about interviews. but there's a really important question that nigel farage has been asked numerous times. in one very specific interview about what his ambitions are and what he intends to do after the general election. and he was asked numerous times if he actually wants to take over the conservative party. and he deflected and he obfuscated. >> why does that matter? can i just ask, why does that matter? >> i think we i think the country deserves to know what his intentions are. >> i mean, he, you know, as we've just heard from george about the many times in the past where, his ego has been at the forefront of his decision making rather than the, you know, what's right for the country. i think what we've seen over the last 14 years is, is a party that has put party before country, and here we have in nigel farage, a leader of a party of sorts. it is an honest about what he wants to do for the country. and i think those questions really matter. and in terms of what he's put forward a bit tricky, though, isn't it, because keir starmer has flip flopped on absolutely everything? well i don't i absolutely, categorically don't accept that he's been very clear or he's been very clear, but he's not been very clear. he's

very clear what his missions are. >> we're very clear on brexit for a start. he, i mean, he's rattled off a load of things, hasn't he really? on jeremy corbyn, for example as well. i mean, he was friends with him then. he wasn't friends with him. >> well he served he served. >> well he served he served. >> what is a woman. no, no no, no. for example i mean he served literally just carry on all day here. i mean net zero, all his flip flops and everything serve in a shadow cabinet and you serve on a front benches. >> i've done as a shadow minister. and you assume that collective responsibility, that's how politics works. you might not agree with. >> why didn't he just say that? then why don't you just say that? >> well, he has said that not really. >> he couldn't be drawn on it. >> he couldn't be drawn on it. >> he's never actually said, oh, i had to say that at the time because jeremy corbyn was leader, because then he'd rightly be exposed as a complete hypocrite. >> well, george, i think i'll ask. i mean, george has served in cabinet. do you want to perhaps, you know, share your experience of what collective responsibility is when you sit around that cabinet table? no, no shadow cabinet table. >> of course, there is a thing such as collective responsibility, but also you don't have to be in a government that you don't feel comfortable in. i resigned from theresa may's government because i didn't agree with what she was

doing on brexit. there were a lot of labour mps who didn't serve in corbyn's government, so it's a choice he taken. i'm a bit more sympathetic to him on this than others, simply because , this than others, simply because, you know, there is an argument for being involved, for being party. >> now, he doesn't want to aboush >> now, he doesn't want to abolish the monarchy. i mean, there's all sorts. i mean, you know, there's quite a lot going on when it comes to keir starmer. i mean, some some people, myself included, actually would argue we are being asked to believe, luciano, that keir starmer is a completely different person to the person he's been for the last 40 years. >> well, i think in terms of what he set out for this election and he's been very consistent since he's become leader, the labour party. i think what's also what the circumstances have changed and that our economy is in a very different place today than it was when he served in the shadow cabinet up until 2019. and what's happened since then with, both the prime ministers of liz truss and with kwasi kwarteng? what happened during that penod? what happened during that period? boris johnson, what we've had now with rishi sunak. so that's a reality with which keir starmer has contended. >> all right. okay. well look coming up, we are going to turn the spotlight onto each party's

approach to net zero. do we need perhaps more or less action when it comes to that? i'll get the views of my panel. plus, yes, we're going to delve through the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. so these are the last front pages you're going to get before the polls shut. so it'll be quite interesting actually. but first, after this comment from keir starmer, the nhs became one of the major talking points quite early on in this campaign. >> i don't use private health, i use the nhs . use the nhs. >> but is it only because of the liberal democrats that the health service has actually stayed in the news agenda? now i can't wait to actually talk to this live studio a bit more about nhs and how they feel about it,

okay. welcome back . and so far, okay. welcome back. and so far, we've covered immigration, taxes, foreign policy, nigel farage as well. but what about the nhs? it's the liberal democrats who've put the health service and social care right at the heart of their manifesto , the heart of their manifesto, and champion rescuing our nhs and champion rescuing our nhs and our care system in westminster. >> we're talking about building a caring nation and i like to think in this campaign we've talked about social care when no other party has, and we've brought care out of the shadows. >> a question mark, though it must be said, of their £8 billion package for health and care service. we did also hear, didn't we, about keir starmer saying things like he doesn't

use private health care. that got him into hot water. rishi sunak saying he would. i am going to go now to my wonderful live studio audience and the lady on the front row here. what are your views on the nhs at this election, do you think, >> i actually think the nhs is not working and we should aboush not working and we should abolish it. we should then take all the money together and sort it all out, and then people that can afford to pay for their own health could. and people that can't afford don't, won't need to. >> so when keir starmer , who >> so when keir starmer, who could definitely afford to go private, says that he won't go private, says that he won't go private, how does that make you feel then he will have to. you would make him go private because he could afford it. >> yes. people earning over, i don't know how much money, say 100 grand or whatever would then all go private, which would then help all the other people that can't afford it. >> and just, just lastly, now my panelin >> and just, just lastly, now my panel in on this for for, you,

do you think that the people who work in the nhs are all angels ? work in the nhs are all angels? do you think that maybe there should be a bit more accountability for them as well? i mean , what do you think is i mean, what do you think is broken about our nhs? is it the system? is it what is it? >> i think it's a lot to do with the system. i think it's over , the system. i think it's over, there's too many people doing there's too many people doing the same job or gradually moving up in that job once, once doing that, then that, then that, then that. >> so it's not run like an efficient business in a sense. basically. that's right. right different rules. >> if it was run more like that, it would be far more efficient . it would be far more efficient. >> okay. all right, george, i'll bnng >> okay. all right, george, i'll bring you in on this first. what's your view on what we've just heard? >> i think the well, first of all, i believe that the nhs should be free at the point of need, but there are definitely things that we need to do to try to make it work better. i mean, i've seen examples for instance, where they triage things really well and some procedures, and

they actually assess people and do the procedure. there and then i've also seen examples and i've had this myself where you go to a, you know, a sort of urgent care unit or something, and you see someone who's supposed to triage you and they refer you to a nurse, and then the nurse says everything's fine, and then, but you better see the doctor anyway. and then there's this massive queue for the doctor. so it's a there's a lot of duplication. >> why haven't the tories been able to sort this out? well, 14 years, come on, people. people are. people are sick and tired of that. >> yeah. it's a huge organisation and the truth is we've put in a lot more money. the budget of the nhs has almost doubled since 2010, but the other big challenge you're always going to have with health services is as medicine advances, our ability to treat people in more complex ways grows. the cost of that grows. people live longer, they have more problems later in life. this means that there's a sort of exponential pressure on the nhs budget . it's the only bit, nhs budget. it's the only bit, even during the coalition years, that was never had its budget reduced, the budget increased. every year we gave it another 11 billion a couple of years ago, the brexit dividend gave it

about 12. right. so what you're what you're not saying is that that actually it's the nhs fault that actually it's the nhs fault that the nhs, the people running it. >> right. and that's not all the government, >> i'm saying i'm saying that there are increasing pressures on it because although the budget has increased dramatically , people's dramatically, people's expectations of it has also gone up.and expectations of it has also gone up. and there's another challenge as well, with gp surgeries , some of them the old surgeries, some of them the old way of working where you've got a gp who takes a particular patient list and looks after those individual patients, that that model is starting to fray. and the average gp now really only works three days a week. they want more of a portfolio career doing other things that also doesn't help because you just don't get that continuity of care with a gp and their patients the same way we used to. >> just quickly on this. now i am before i go back to my panel, i'm going to bring in a lib dem voice on this. this is the leader in liverpool council, the lib dem leader of liverpool council, it's carl cashman, carl, thank you very much for joining us today. and so the lib dems have put health and social care

right at the forefront of their manifesto. there's talk of an £8 billion package for health and care services. i do also just wonder though, you know, what do you think the lib dems will do to stop things like the doctors strikes? will they just give in to their pay demands? would they? >>i they? >> i think we would give into it, patrick, but we would just try to get everyone around the table. and i think, i don't think the tories have been serious about that over the last few years. and, you know, we admit that it's got to stop, but we also need to have a fair package for , for doctors. and package for, for doctors. and just just a point there on the audience members, saying to scrap the nhs, i couldn't disagree more. the nhs has got inefficiencies. for example, a nurse that i used to know said that if there was a package of chemo and it had the wrong name on, he would have to throw it in the bin. it couldn't be used for anyone else. and there is stories like that and the staff in the nhs that would want those inefficiencies to be eradicated. but i certainly don't think the

nhs should be run like a business. that's not what it's intended for and it should be free at the point of use. >> yeah. okay, i mean, there are issues when it comes to things like this £8 billion package for health and social care. how have the lib dems said they're going to pay for that? >> yeah. so there's, closing the loopholes. >> first of all, inheritance tax and also having it banded, so at the moment it favours those that have actually inherited, property that is worth millions of pounds and actually those that are on the bottom rung of the ladder that have inherited property are paying just as much in inheritance tax. we also want to increase the tax on social media giants as well. and you know, we can't underestimate patrick just how much those social media giants are impacting young people's mental health. so i think both tackling the social media giants and also taxing them more will help to save the nhs. save the n hs. >> save the nhs. >> okay. all right . i mean, >> okay. all right. i mean, we've got massive amounts of

waiting lists as well haven't we. and i just wondered i think the lib dems have said they're going to increase the number of gps, etc. we've got any idea how they're going to do that. i mean, how are we just going to find loads more gps? what are we going to do? >> well, i've just told you two ways that we're going to pay for it, >> but we also need to make sure that if we need gps from elsewhere around the world, that we can allow them to work here. i think it's. is it not, karl. >> sorry to interrupt on that one, but i think i do wonder if there's a slight element of hypocrisy with the lib dems there, because we're basically pinching the rest of the world's best, aren't we? and you know, how does that tie in with the lib dems? kind of quite lovely, fluffy, internationalist approach if we just you know, reach into countries like nigeria and take all their best doctors and drag them over here. >> well, that that's what that's what freedom of movement is. patrick, you know, you can move across borders if you've got the skills, but we're not going over. >> oven >> we're not going back there. you're not we're not getting a load of people from here going to work in the nigerian health service. >> are we? >> are we? >> you're a very good journalist, patrick. and if you wanted to go and work in, say,

australia, you absolutely could do and should be able to as well. the same as if there's a good doctor, they should be able to come and work in this country. >> i can think of a few people who would be more than happy for me to disappear off to the other side of the world. to be fair, karl, thank you very much, mate. look, good luck to you. you take care, all right? it's always a pleasure. yes. can i just quickly, if we pass on to this topic, what's your what's your point, >> so i've got diabetes, and i was meant to have an appointment in six months time. the day before that appointment, they said, okay, well, actually, we can't do that appointment. it's going to be another six months. but then through my workplace, i get private health care. yeah. and if i fill out an online form, they will call me within 20 minutes. yeah. so there's clearly something going wrong with the nhs as a whole. if it's six months and also it's another six months and also it's another six months. yeah, another 20. >> and i just wonder whether or not labour actually being a bit disingenuous about this, because thatis disingenuous about this, because that is a story that i'm telling you now in every single family in this country, there is a story like that . story like that. >> well, it's how we build an nhs that's fit for the future. and that's what's really

important, i think speaks to the heart of this conversation. labour's put that mission as one of its top five missions because it's very interesting hearing george's commentary on what's happened over the course of the last 14 years. but there are 7.5 million people in this country who are on a list waiting for an appointment for an operation , appointment for an operation, and that doesn't even include the number of people in this country waiting for a mental health appointment. and that's the people that even meet the thresholds to access the services in the first place. our nhs is on its knees. there's much that we can and should be doing. it's not just pouring in cash into the nhs, although there is a job to be done to clear those waiting lists. i think it's absolutely right that labour has put forward a plan to have an additional 40,000 appointments every single week, to clear that backlog of those people that are waiting for those operations for and those access is already meeting that target? >> no, they're absolutely not. >> no, they're absolutely not. >> i mean, the irony to hear the prime minister talking about waiting list went on, on on his watch. it was one of his key pledges at the start of 2023. >> doctor strikes not responsible now for a lot of wakefulness. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> there's lots. how can you say

absolutely not, luciano? because they cancelled appointments as a result of the doctors strikes, haven't they? the point is, is that it's rishi sunak responsibility and his government's responsibility since the start of 2023 to ensure that he met that pledge, knowing full well that there was going to be some discussions and disputes that might be coming down the line, and how you contend with them is that you get around the table and you have the conversation. >> you don't get to the absurd situation we're in at the moment where we have just had more junior doctors strikes. you sort it out. >> yeah. all right. just on that, i mean, the junior doctors, they called in intermediaries. okay. to have discussions between the government and that. and then they called a general election, and then the junior doctors said they were going to strike when it was absolutely not a cat in hell's chancellor. and negotiations being met. and i do actually wonder at susanna if we're going to head towards a situation where people who have died or not received correct treatment in this sue the bma, that that's very interesting prospect. >> i, i think it's wrong to say that the doctor strikes haven't had an impact. of course, they must have had an impact, there's no doubt about it. and personally, i think the doctors, you know, coming at a time and doing this industrial action

when you've got 7 million people on the waiting list, is utterly irresponsible. and frankly, i think a breach of their ethical codes. but that's my but is the government's responsibility to get around the table and have that debate and discussion. >> not. no, but but there's countless examples where they didn't they haven't and they and they were to give junior doctors they were to give junior doctors the 35% pay rise they're demanding. >> it would be grossly unfair on nurses who did settle responsibly very early on in the dispute and actually settled for what the pay boards were recommending. and, you know, you just made. but they went to on do this. >> but they went on strike though, and nurses went on strike. >> yeah, but they they settled very early after that and they just became you support the junior doctors. >> i'm saying it's the government's responsibility to ensure that we haven't had any strikes. >> but keir starmer answer to that is, yeah, but keir starmer, i mean, sadiq khan said under my watch as london mayor you won't get any strikes. we have more strikes than we've had under anyone as london mayor. so, you know, it's all very well and good labour saying, oh well come on, just give us a go. >> but what are the strikes that sadiq khan could have controlled? >> well, tfl so the government's supposed to control the strikes, but the mayor of london, who's

got responsibility for. >> no no no no. >>— >> no no no no. >> but you're saying if you're just saying blanket strikes in london, which are the ones, it's not my fault. >> he said there wouldn't be any strikes under his watch. as the mayor of london there have been. don't say it. yeah. all right. okay. well, coming up , we're okay. well, coming up, we're speaking about the race for westminster. but what about the for race net zero? i'll ask my studio audience which party they trust more to sort out the climate agenda, and we will have a little look at the first of tomorrow's front pages. yes it's the last ones before we

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. it's a different look. this evening, we have got a live studio audience and a top panel for you as well. because the 2024 general election campaign is coming to an end. and it's the last front pages before polling day. let's do it. so we go with the metro first. the nafion go with the metro first. the nation decides, but they're starting with the independent for some reason. they're okay. all right. tories on just 82

seats. no wonder they've given up. conservatives predicted to crash to all time low with loss of up to 259 seats. so that's what they're going with the metro. yet the nation decides. but top tory admits labour likely to win. that's mel stride, of course it's mel stride. he's the only person who's ever been out doing a media round, throughout the course of this entire election campaign. pretty much just go to the eye. labour's lead narrows in final poll, but starmer still on course for landslide. they've got a labour on 39. the tories on 22, reform on 16. that's the eye at the sun. now i think this is probably the most controversial front page of the day . as britain goes to the day. as britain goes to the polls, it's time for a new manager and we don't mean sack southgate. i've read this story, and they say that it is time for and they say that it is time for a labour government. so the sun has backed labour, which is interesting because that's they've not done that for a little while. >> it's always been a tory

papen >> yeah, a tory paper. and, so there we go. it's interesting as well though, because i look i'm sure i will be getting a phone call from someone at the sun soon if i'm wrong about this, but i did see a poll that they did quite recently to say that a plurality of their readers were backing reform. so the idea that they would slap that on the front page right away, they obviously know what they're doing. i suppose the daily express pretty simple. just as vote tory, today is a day of reckoning. the conservative party faces a punishing pounding at the ballot box. we believe labour's unchecked power would diminish this great country of ours. they say , vote tory. there ours. they say, vote tory. there we go. i wonder how many people are. well i'm not sure they have to convince the express readers, do they? it's probably more people. but anyway, i am joined as well by political consultant suzanne evans, former tory minister george eustice and former labour mp luciana berger. now look, we've covered immigration tax, foreign policy, the nhs. let's do a bit on net zero now and the environment and all the parties are butting heads on the so—called climate emergency. let's listen to what

some of them have had to say. >> would labour do. they would ban north sea energy, damaging our economy, damaging our energy security, rushing to net zero, and a wage that saddles families with thousands of pounds of costs. so our first step is to set up great british energy, a publicly owned clean energy company. >> by and for our citizens. >> by and for our citizens. >> i have a gas boiler and i'm literally in the process of getting quotes for replacing it with an air source heat pump. we encourage any form of green energy that can survive without subsidy , namely without putting subsidy, namely without putting money on people's bills . money on people's bills. >> i wonder how long that process of getting a gas boiler is going to take. but anyway, okay, so i'm going to whizz it over to my audience. now, sir, i believe you've got some views about the climate, have you? >> yes, indeed, yeah . i'm no >> yes, indeed, yeah. i'm no climate change sceptic. i think manmade climate change is real. it's important. it's urgent, and we need to do something about it. we need to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels, not least because we get a lot of

them from various despotic regimes around the world. and i think the government has had a fair few successes. if you look at things like the, percentage of electricity generation that comes from renewables, that was flatlining under under labour, it's now a very significant part of our electricity generation. personally, i was a big fan of the achievements boris had around cycling. he was very keen on promoting active travel, but one of the big approach parts of the net zero approach has been to set into legislation. various targets . so we've set targets targets. so we've set targets for gas boilers, for, getting rid of internal combustion engine cars and generally sort of legal requirements to consider climate change across the board, i think it's becoming increasingly apparent that a lot of those targets are not deliverable. and if they are deliverable, they might be incredibly expensive. and, just really not good value for money. do you think that approach of setting those legal targets is going to survive whatever change of government? okay. >> right. well, george , you were >> right. well, george, you were former environment minister.

okay. so, so arbitrary targets, too short a time frame too costly. >> well, i very much agree, but i think there's a danger here. so my view is it's right to aim for net zero for 2050 and right to have some staging posts as well, these various carbon budgets. but where i frequently used to disagree with the climate change committee and others, is you don't want to lock in prematurely the wrong technology, only to find that it doesn't actually deliver what you want. and that's why the electrification first strategy that government adopted in 2017, i meant that they were then excluding other technologies, that the expense of that i thought was wrong. and i was very pleased that rishi sunak recalibrated that that pathway and said that he was going to delay for instance, the ban on boilers, which was the right thing to do . and the labour thing to do. and the labour labour party have said they wouldn't reverse that. he was right to move out the outright ban on the use of fossil fuels in cars, simply because the rest of the world is doing it for 2035. it's a global market in the automotive business, it made no sense for us to go earlier. so i think rishi sunak has been

right to recalibrate that route. but i think it's right that we continue that journey and the cheapest electricity we can get at the moment is, you know, typically offshore wind. it's something where if you get the investment right and you bring the costs down, as they've successfully done over the last ten years, as you pointed out, we've actually been quite successful at decarbonising our electricity generation in this country. >> okay. all right. what do you think about this this idea that we've locked in arbitrary targets? i mean, labour, certainly. i think saying about, you know, they've got quite a few ones that are lisa hartle say what they are, but certainly by 2030, ed miliband wants to do, isn't it? >> so, rishi sunak recently extended the ban on new sales of petrol and diesel vehicles till 2035. labour says they're going to roll that back to 20, 30, 30, right. there's a massive problem there because people aren't buying enough electric cars. and of course electricity at the moment still uses fossil fuels anyway. so it's all a little bit of a bit of a spin deal, i think, going on here. i think the other issue with labour, they're talking about going for growth and improving the economy, but not allowing any

more drilling in the north sea for oil and gas. now that's a potential huge source of growth and revenue for the country that's being taken away. and it's a bit like i was talking earlier about the non—dom thing. labour seems to be putting principles and the politics of envy before the needs of the country and the economy by by bringing in these policies and basically pushing foreign investment away. i don't think you're going to have growth. i think you're going to have stagnation. >> can i just ask and i'll give you the word i'd love to challenge that. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, you will get the chance to, but can i just just show of hands in here? does anyone care about net zero? like, massively care about it? yeah fine. couple 232. but you see, as in as in you care about. we should get to net zero. you think? yeah. right okay. cool. so three three people. i think that was so okay. all right. go on. who? what would you want to say? push back on that. >> there's a few things i think labouris >> there's a few things i think labour is right to set out the mission that we should be a clean energy superpower. certainly other countries are on that path, and we are not doing

as well as some of our neighbours. and we should be. and why should we be doing that? because we should be doing everything possible to get people's energy bills down. i'm sure people in this audience and people watching today will have suffered in the way that we all have, because i'm sorry to interrupt, but the fact the push for net zero is putting people's energy well up because we're having this, we're having this conversation after people have experienced £1,000 increase on their bills. and why is that? because we have an overreliance still on imported energy sources, and particularly in the wake of what has been a geopolitical crisis and in the events in ukraine that has impacted on us all, we should be doing so much more to invest in domestic energy production and doing everything to harness as an island that we are ten hag oil and gas. >> well to harness. >> well to harness. >> well to harness. >> we are an island. we're an island , we're an island. and as island, we're an island. and as an island we have amazing resources. we have a sea that has amazing tidal power. we have wind, we have solar. there's so much things that we can and should be doing. and yes, we're doing well, but we but we could and should be doing it way better. we've fallen down. we've

fallen down. the international tables in terms of investment in clean energy and for me and for businesses, the most important thing is consistency. and you talk about cars, george. you know, having spoken to people whose businesses rely on those cars, you know, it's the flip flopping which is particularly challenging. >> you tell businesses, flop back again, you tell you tell them what they've already put in motion. >> the investment in. >> the investment in. >> but the truth is, everyone electric cars, you're going to have a need for gas and oil. you know , on that route to net zero. know, on that route to net zero. and it might as well be our own oil rather than import it. >> well, yeah, we're going to have to just knock on the head for now because coming up, we've got some more of tomorrow's newspaper front pages, i'm being told literally right now that the daily mail apparently is especially interesting. there we go. i don't know whether they've paid us to say that, but there it is. and we decide what was the most bizarre moment of this general election campaign. this one is certainly in the running. >> my milkshake brings all the people to the rally . people to the rally. >> yeah, a lot more of that stage. cheer

yes. it's patrick christys tonight we are on gb news. and it's tonight we are on gb news. and wsfime tonight we are on gb news. and it's time to give you the very first look at some front pages. so let's do it right then. we're going to start with the mirror. so that is britain can be better than this today you have the chance to make history. together we can choose a brighter future. vote for change. vote labour. can i just say that front page keep you on the screen? there highlights the absolute lunacy of television laws, right? if i came on national television now and told you to for vote labour, or vote for the tories, or vote for reform , i would lose my job. for reform, i would lose my job. but you can slap it on the front of a newspaper front page. i find it absolutely insane . the find it absolutely insane. the difference in laws between print journalism and tv journalism laid bare for all to see there. but anyway , that's the mirror's but anyway, that's the mirror's front page. what am i doing next? what have i got next? which paper are you going to go to? the guardian, right. starmer

hails new age of hope as britain votes in historic election. they're also got some stuff there about joe biden. absolutely not considering quitting, apparently, which will come as big news for people at the times who say that biden is considering quitting. so that's on their front page. their labour set for biggest majority since 1832. the daily telegraph homeowners face council tax raid under labour. legal threat over postal vote chaos as well. the postal vote chaos as well. the postal vote chaos as well. the postal vote situation is very interesting. it seems to be a big drama every single election. this one, as far as i can tell, is that loads of them appear to be missing, so be interesting to see if they appear again around certain constituencies at some point. but the daily mail, here we go. vote farage get them. they've said so. the daily mail is doing a constituency by constituency guide on how you can stop a starmer supermajority. you can stop it. they say soaring taxes , they say soaring taxes, uncontrolled immigration, rwanda scrapped rampant wokery betrayal of women's rights, net zero romania weaker defence surrender our brexit freedoms. they go on and votes at 16 to rig future

elections. they've hit a few bases there. they've gone after farage and they've also crucially backed the tories as well. so that is the daily mail's front page for you there. all right. okay. so look, what do you make of what we've seen in those front pages so far? susanna i'll start with you. i mean, any shocks there for you? isuppose mean, any shocks there for you? i suppose the daily mail slamming farage. i'm backing the tories. is it that much of shock? >>i shock? >> i think probably the sun is the biggest shock. there yeah. isn't it? basically we need a change of manager and it's not gareth southgate, that is a shock really, because the sun has traditionally been a conservative paper. but to me this feels a little bit like 1997 all over again. those of us who are old enough to remember that, you know, there was a massive, landslide for tony blair, the difference, i think, here is that i'm probably going get into trouble for saying this, but i don't think keir starmer quite has. tony blair's statesmanship, vision, leadership or charisma, so i think perhaps it's interesting that i suspect he's going to have a bigger majority than tony blair did. and for the

conservatives, my goodness, i think the question is just how big a wipe—out it's going to be. you know, some polls are predicting they're going to have as low as 64 seats. now let's forget in not forget in 2019, bofis forget in not forget in 2019, boris johnson had a tory majority of 80. and they're going to that. and just having potentially something like 60 odd seats. >> we're just going to have to be quite quick on this one. but but to just say at that point, how big is it, do you think for the for labour that the son of backing them or does it matter. >> i think i think it's, i think it's very significant. i think it's very significant. i think it is, you know, certainly the first time i remember the son backing the labour party, and, and, and i think it indicates, you know, their frustration with what we've seen and why it is the time for change. but i would just urge anyone watching this, if you want change, you have to go and vote for it. and, you know, it's all very well looking at the polls and seeing what the front pages say. it's interesting you point out to one newspaper, the mirror, that was telling people how to vote. there's others specifically saying how to vote if you want that change people have got from 7 am. to £0.10 mar—a—lago i know this is something you're very keen to say, which which

the mail is actually saying a constituency by constituency , it constituency by constituency, it could there there is obviously a way in which if everybody mobilised behind the conservatives they could they could try to eat away at labour's policy. >> but but yes, 100 is over 130 seats. >> where the where the where. the majority is only about less than 5, you know. and so that does require people to exercise their vote tomorrow. >> okay. all right. well let me just, just play a couple of clips here because i just want to say what say what you want about this election campaign. but it certainly kept us entertained for the last six weeks, hasn't it? now, just in case you forgot, we've compiled some of the maddest moments to take a quick look at. we will, we will. >> but when i grew up, my dad was a toolmaker. he worked in a factory . it's true. factory. it's true. >> my favourite meal generally is sandwiches. >> are you to really the best? we've got ? come on, 4th of july. we've got? come on, 4th of july. >> don't forget to come in one day to go. >> we got 21 days to go. if you

like, let me know. let me add the shadow. got 21 days because he's got to go home. >> skydiving, motorcycling, fast catamaran sailing, the wide range of things i'll do. >> my milkshake brings all the people to the rally. but even i say that georgia gladys nearly oven >> yes, but i've got a lot of elections, and i'm always glad when they're over, because i think they're always exhausting. this one's been probably a week longer than an average election, and i kind of feel sorry for everybody, of all parties who's out there fighting it because they are exhausting. and they'll all be glad when it's over. i'm sure. >> all right. okay, well, can i just say a massive, massive thank you to my wonderful panel this evening? it's been a bit of a different show, it must be said. thank you for that. and thank you, everybody in here as well for being a part of our very final vote 2024 episode. and i know that some of you have actually been involved with other audiences that we've done in the past over the course of this campaign, so that is great.

i do also just want to do a cheeky little shout out for tomorrow night where i will be in essex. i don't think i'm allowed to reveal exactly where in essex yet, but there we go alongside michelle dewberry and we are going to be doing the election watch party. i think there might still be a few tickets left for that, so make sure that you come along. you can go to our website. it's gb news.com and it's all available on there, until then, well good luck everyone. whichever way you're going to vote, just make sure you go out and do it, yeah. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . solar sponsors of weather on. gb. news >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update from the met office thursday is going to be a windy day, particularly for northwestern areas, but it will be sunnier. there is a risk of some quite heavy showers though, particularly where it turns quite windy overnight tonight.

across northwestern areas, you can see those tightly packed isobars that indicates stronger winds. so we could see gale force winds across the far north and west of scotland. elsewhere, and west of scotland. elsewhere, a breezy evening and morning on thursday morning, but there will be clearer skies out there through the rest of tonight, so it will turn much drier and clearer. temperatures will be allowed to fall away though, so we'll be down into single figures for some areas. so slightly fresher start to the day, but there's going to be more sunshine around to start the day tomorrow morning for most areas. however, across western areas of scotland quite frequent showers will move in as well as across the northern isles as well. these bring a risk of thunder as well and could last for quite a while. we'll also see some heavy showers across parts of northern ireland into some northwestern areas of the uk of england, as well , but areas of the uk of england, as well, but eastern areas and southern and central areas should stay dry through thursday morning and in fact well into the afternoon as well. but the breeze will pick up as the day goes on, so it will be quite a windy day, particularly across

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up with gb news. i'm sam francis. up next is headliners. but first, a look at the top stories at 11. the prime minister has said during his final big campaigning event tonight that he is still in the general election fight. rishi sunak insisted it's not over until the final whistle blows, adding the election is not a foregone conclusion . conclusion. >> it is our job, it is our duty >> it is ourjob, it is our duty to make sure that britain does not sleepwalk into this. and that's what i need your help with, because yes, many people may want to say the result of this election is a foregone conclusion, but i believe in my bones that it is not. and i think you do too . think you do too. >> and in his last general election campaigning event tonight, sir keir starmer has appealed to his supporters not to think that a labour win tomorrow is guaranteed. >> we are fighting for every vote and across the country there will be constituencies which will go down to the wire and therefore we will continue to fight until 10:00 tomorrow night, making the case. that change only happens if you for