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>> it's 955. live across the united kingdom. this is gb news. britain's election channel. >> well, in just a few minutes, the polls will close, and you will have decided who gets the keys to number 10. >> i'm stephen dixon, and i'm camilla tominey. >> the excitement of election night starts right now. >> live across the united kingdom. this is gb news. vote 2024. the people decide tonight. >> history will be made and by
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the morning we may have a new prime minister. >> well, over the coming hours, we'll bring you all the results as they happen. and we're going to have some fun along the way . to have some fun along the way. >> good evening. welcome to wessex for the gb. news, general election watch party i'm patrick christys and i'm michelle dewberry and we're going to have live reaction to each and every result from our wonderful audience of gb news viewers right here from essex . right here from essex. >> throughout the night, we'll be joined by some of the biggest names in british politics, from ten sir brandon lewis, james heappey , geoff hoon, gloria de heappey, geoff hoon, gloria de piero and callum robertson, plus former shadow minister luciana berger, the former chairman of the conservative 1922 committee, sir graham brady and former chancellor kwasi kwarteng will be adding to a stellar cast right here in the studio , here right here in the studio, here in the data hub, as each result comes in, we'll be analysing and
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dissecting every moment as the results build up. >> we'll be making our and refining our gb news prediction on who could be forming the next government, what the scale of that majority could be, and who becomes our next prime minister. >> we'll have gb news coverage across the uk, every nation and every key location . every key location. >> in around one hour's time, we'll get the first result. >> it could begin to give us an idea of where the vote is going. i'll be bringing you my analysis of every key moment . of every key moment. >> we'll be live at all. the key counts throughout the night, including with each of the party leaders. will they all win their seat .7 seat.7 >> do not miss a moment for the next 12 hours uninterrupted. right across the uk. and of course, right here in our election night party. >> yes, that's right, get ready . >> yes, that's right, get ready. because the most exciting night in general election history
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starts now . with . six weeks ago starts now. with. six weeks ago on may, the 22nd, a soaking wet rishi sunak announced to the united kingdom a surprise early election . election. >> well, this is the scene right now as the sun sets on downing street. but of course, at dawn we'll find out who will really hold the keys to number 10. >> campaigning followed, dominated by blunders, scandals and debates, the population of the uk has been voting and we are seconds away from polling stations closing and the exit poll being revealed. >> well, we are delighted tonight to be joined by pollster matt goodwin, former conservative secretary of state sir brandon lewis, former labour shadow minister gloria de piero and former labour defence secretary geoff hoon. good to see you all. >> matt, let's start with you. tell us why is this exit poll so important? because in a way it's
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the most accurate poll really, of the whole election campaign. >> well that's right, camilla, it's got a great track record of actually telling us how the rest of the night is going to go. so for viewers who are not familiar with an exit poll, what's happened today is they've had people outside of a number of polling stations across the country interviewing about between ten, 20,000 people, getting a really good measure of how they voted, what their concerns are. they'll then use that data to model what's happening across the country. and we will get those headline numbers in a moment. >> and historically, they've always proved to be pretty accurate . not in 1992. it was accurate. not in 1992. it was wrong. then it predicted a hung parliament, and actually john major surpassed expectations. but generally they're pretty close. >> absolutely. so just take the headune >> absolutely. so just take the headline numbers with a pinch of salt. as we go through the night. we'll begin to see some variation. the question is how much variation. >> and in general do we think that there has been too much polling over the course of this election? there's just been a bit of criticism, hasn't there, of the mrp polling a lot of detail, some suggestions, perhaps too much. well there's a
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lot of polling, definitely, but also polling is getting more sophisticated. >> and in defence of my fellow pollsters has got a pretty good track record. >> matt, just to interrupt it is 10:00 right now, and that means the exit poll is going to be revealed. more importantly, of course, it means the polls have closed so no one can have their say . it is done. however, it all say. it is done. however, it all works out tonight and tomorrow morning. well, the last vote has been cast. it's now that the counting begins of course , counting begins of course, gloria, in all of this, because it's been such a strong lead in, in the polling so far for laboun in the polling so far for labour. is there an element of disappointment if it doesn't play disappointment if it doesn't play out to be as as big a win as people are expecting ? as people are expecting? >> i still don't believe the scale of the labour victory that is projected. remember it is 19 years since labour last won an election. labour doesn't win elections. i'm hopeful that tonight will be different. but remember, keir starmer will only
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be the fifth labour leader ever to be elected. here we go. >> i think we have the exit poll result now let's reveal it . result now let's reveal it. let's just run through the numbers very carefully here conservatives 131 seats. labour an astonishing victory for sir keir starmer 410. the liberal democrats huge increase for sir ed davey's party. they're up to 61. reform appear to have outperformed their on 13 seats, and the snp in scotland another shock result. if the exit poll is to be believed, snp reduced to ten seats in scotland , to ten seats in scotland, conservatives on 131 and labour on 410. brandon lewis, as a former party chairman, just have your reaction please.
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>> well, i mean, it's a dreadful result. i think a lot of colleagues have been preparing for what they thought might happen tonight. this is not as bad as some of the polls outlined, but it is as bad as i think anybody would have , would think anybody would have, would have thought could happen. i mean, we've got i think it's going to be a real shock to a lot of colleagues who might would have still been hoping in the last few days they could make a difference, and they are no longer going to be mps. >> that labour majority though, 170. so that's just below the 1997 result for labour. >> jeff, is that disappointment? >> on the contrary, it's an incredible achievement. >> well, it is, but there's been there's been all this talk, hasn't there, about this is going to surpass everything. well i'd be quite interested in seeing the actual percentages because this is obviously a national poll that has then been converted into these numbers for seats . seats. >> we won't really know whether those seat numbers are correct until we see the actual results coming in, but nevertheless, for a man who was threatened with the sack after the hartlepool by—election, he's done incredibly well for the labour
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party. turn the labour party around and turned it into a tremendous result tonight in order to win a simple majority, labour had to get a bigger swing this time than we achieved in 1997, and he's gone way beyond that. >> all right. you can see the exit poll now on screen showing labour with that 170 seat majority on 410 seats. we've got the conservatives to just remind you, on 131, the liberal democrats appear to have eaten up democrats appear to have eaten up a great deal of votes. they're on 61. and reform had been predicted by some pollsters to win no seats. they are projected to win 13. the snp. i mean, there's a story to tell in scotland as well here, isn't there this evening because the snp, reduced to just ten seats, seems astonishing. so they've lost. >> the snp have lost 38 seats from from last time. >> i think let's just put the majority into context. so the labour majority of 2001 was 167. it's looking around there. it
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doesn't quite match tony blair's majority in 1997 of 179. some of the predictions, matt. yeah, i mean seem to be a bit off. i mean, there was talk that the majority would be starting with a two. >> it's a very big majority. it's not what we became used to calling a supermajority lowest number of conservative seats since 1906, 131 seats for the conservatives in 1906, a better than expected night for nigel farage and reform. if those numbers hold 13, that was actually above where most of the msps had them at the upper range of the mrp. expectations, snp dismal night again suggests labour are dominant in scotland. that's a big problem for the conservatives going forward. good night for the lib dems. all right. >> well that's our reaction here. what about essex. let's cross to our gb news election party with patrick and michelle. evening youtube party with patrick and michelle. evening youtube. >> hello . yes, indeed. live from >> hello. yes, indeed. live from
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essex. >> hello. yes, indeed. live from essex . our election watch party essex. our election watch party live. i can tell you now i'll summarise the response to that exit poll. a loud groan when we heard the words labour landslide. i can tell you what, when we got to the reform, the 13 seats were reform. i heard a massive cheer. now what i'll do is i'll throw it open to the room en masse. tell me everybody and then patrick will go to individual people for a response . individual people for a response. how do you feel? who is happy about that? labour landslide tonight ? strong feelings there. tonight? strong feelings there. what do you think to the tories situation then? 131 seats. that's a loss of 245 seats if thatis that's a loss of 245 seats if that is to be believed . not. oh that is to be believed. not. oh he says not, not enough. i can tell you now. i'm hearing shouts of not enough. i'm hearing shouts of serves them right, okay. and i do have to ask, what about reform then? so now apparently 13 seats. i can tell you paddington and everyone else
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at home. the energy in this room. the excitement is immense. over to patrick christys. >> yes. hello, everybody. well, this is fantastic. thank you all for coming. gb news doing it in our own way here. so initial reaction reform will have more seats according to exit poll than the snp, which i think is quite a nice touch, isn't it? what was, you on the end here, if that's possible. looking very glamorous , may i say. what's glamorous, may i say. what's your reaction then? so you. am i right in saying you are a tory voter? >> yes. oh, thanks a lot. >> go on, do your thing, >> go on, do your thing, >> i did actually predict about 130 seats, >> disappointing of course, but better than expected. >> okay. i'm glad that reform have done well. >> glad that reform has done well. how how are you two doing here, about reform getting 13 seats. what are your thoughts? >> well, we're really glad that reform have done so well. >> we really hope that we. they would get more seats, maybe 30, but at least they've got enough. yeah. thirteen's enough. >> okay. all right. and you, sarah, on the end here are your
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views. >> well, after four weeks i think they've just they're building a fantastic base to work for. for the future . work for. for the future. >> well lots of support as you would imagine in the room for here reform and for nigel farage. it'd be interesting to see, though, the number of votes, though, won't it, as well. so not just about the seats. if that exit poll is right and it's 13 seats, it'll be fascinating , as you were be fascinating, as you were saying, sir, to see in how many seats they come second in. >> yeah, i think 13 is going to go up, certain of it. absolutely delighted. i think the tory vote is overestimated. i think it will come down. and i think the number of second places for reform is going to be really amazing. okay. >> all right. well, i can whizz you back over now to michelle dewberry, who is with our gb news panel. and i think michelle might be in the bar. >> michelle, my favourite place in the world. quite frankly, a bar and a packed one at that. look at this. i've established a fantastic panel for tonight. i've got former labour advisor mark lazar , i've got tory peer mark lazar, i've got tory peer shaun bailey and gb news
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superstar darren grimes. look at this. we've got enthusiastic flag waving behind the scenes. i love it. i've got to start with you, though. first your reaction. >> well, it's i mean it's great news. i mean this is the change that the country is crying out for. keir starmer's changed the labour party and now he's ready to change the country. you know, we haven't got actual votes counted yet. >> i never thought the tories were going to crash below 100. >> so it seems to me it's sort of ties with what i thought. >> and it's a good start for, for sir keir, prime minister shaun bailey goodness gracious me . me. >> look, there's no way to sugarcoat this. >> this is a devastating loss. >> this is a devastating loss. >> there'll be a lot of good conservatives , mps, the kind of conservatives, mps, the kind of conservatives, mps, the kind of conservative mps that this room actually would have supported and would have liked their politics. >> who will now disappear? this? like who? >> what's your prediction ? >> what's your prediction? >> what's your prediction? >> i don't know, i don't know because you don't know. >> there's quite a few of the cabinet, certainly isn't it. >> we don't know which seats have been gone, but i've been out campaigning, speaking to conservative mps who are worried about the impact of reform on their vote because they have a vote that would speak, that would hear that message. but the important thing for me is this will change the politics of this
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country . there'll be a lot of country. there'll be a lot of fringe groups who are very embedded in the labour party, who will now use this majority to get their extreme politics at the heart of our of our country. thatis the heart of our of our country. that is a challenge. >> shaking his head, absolutely no way you're going to have is a mainstream labour party led by keir starmer with a big majority. it's a party made in his own image. he's he's controlled the candidate selection with an iron grip. so you're going to have people who believe in his project. none of the none of the corbynistas. >> but i agree is made in his image in this man. he's a hard socialist and that will be a challenge for this country. a problem for this country. that is what i'm saying. so we can agree it is in his image. >> but like i'd say, this is a devastating to blow he's many things, but he's not a hard left. >> but but what this says, what this says is what the next conversation is. >> how far do we lurch to the right and reforms? existence will change the complexion of that conversation. it's going to be interesting. >> darren grimes, good. >> darren grimes, good. >> michelle good. >> michelle good. >> the conservative party, the message that i was hearing in the so—called red wall was one of betrayal, abject betrayal by
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a party that we overwhelmingly put our trust in in 2019 and years. >> let us down. so you deserve, i'm afraid to say, absolutely everything that you are getting tonight. and i would like to see, you know, i think i'm going to do 13 shots at the bar as soon as i get off 13 shots. >> i think that was an offer there of some free drinks. i'm definitely going to take him up on it. i can tell you now, when he was just talking, there was a lot of cheering, over in the side of the party there, nodding of the heads here. there is a real strength of feeling in this room tonight. but for now, back over to you in the studio. what do you think, sir? >> right. thanks. you two looks like a lot of fun down there. as people digest what's going on. so that exit poll is crucial. of course . but what makes up all of course. but what makes up all of those figures? how do we crunch all of that? well, let's find out from our deputy political edhon out from our deputy political editor, tom harwood, who's in the data centre for us. >> thanks, stephen. yes, we're here in the data centre, not
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just me, but also martin baxter from electoral calculus, who's been crunching some of these numbers for us. martin, let's first of all, just go through this exit poll here. we can see 410, an astonishingly high number of labour seats , yet not number of labour seats, yet not their highest ever. no. >> so there's obviously a clear majority for labour. they need 326 seats for that, but not quite as big as tony blair got in 1997, where he had a majority of 179. i think it was. and this is a majority of, of 179. i think it was. and this is a majority of , slightly less is a majority of, slightly less than that , about one. so, so but than that, about one. so, so but very good result for labour overall, but not quite as good as, as some of the polls were suggesting. >> yes. the conservative number a lot of people were projecting the conservatives would go below 100 seats. i suppose it's a big psychological factor that this is in three figures. >> yes, absolutely. i mean, we thought in some of our polling the conservatives could be below 100 seats, it might even be in danger of getting fewer seats than the liberal democrats. but that's not happened. the conservatives, as we see, got over twice the number of seats
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as the liberal democrats. so, clearly in second place, they are going to be her majesty's loyal opposition so that is good for the conservatives on that side as well. >> and perhaps one of the most interesting things here is the snp have gone from being the third party in parliament to being the fifth party in parliament on these numbers. reform really leapfrogging . reform really leapfrogging. they're getting double digits. yes. >> it's interesting we, the opinion was divided on reform because it's hard to predict in advance and it may still be a bit hard to work out how it's going to work out through the night. but reform doing, better than many people expected with 13 seats. >> now i want to jump across to the map here because we can look, if we look back to 2019, this is a very different map. just 197 labour seats. now this is on the notional new boundaries. they did get a little bit more than that on the boundanes little bit more than that on the boundaries last time round. but of course there have been some changes. why don't we wipe this map empty and jump to 2024? because i'm interested in where
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we might be finding some of these reform seats if we jump to if we jump to the eastern region. here, let me just jump there, this is a seat that many people will be aware of. clacton. not yet called. nigel farage is standing there. do you think on these numbers he wins it? >> i think it would be inconceivable if he didn't in our polling, we saw massive support for reform in clacton . support for reform in clacton. the exit poll is showing reform on 13 seats. if clacton isn't one of those, i think everyone's going to be very surprised. so nigel farage should be home and dry in clacton and it looks like a lot of other reform candidates are going to be winning too. yes. >> really. want to watch there? perhaps another one to watch up here. great yarmouth, one of the ones that the reform party was thinking they might win. also here boston and skegness. one to watch. richard tice standing there for the reform party, lots to look at as these results and as these numbers come in over, over the course of the evening . over the course of the evening. >> yes, it's there's going to be a lot to watch for. so in boston and also in ashfield and some
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other seats around the country, it'd be interesting to see where they where they come out. obviously the exit poll doesn't tell us directly which seats reform is going to win. that's just their estimate of how many they will win in total. but we may have more information for gb news viewers later on that i wanted to jump back to the exit poll just for a second here, because obviously not contained in this headline numbers are the greens, and it looks like the greens, and it looks like the greens might have underperformed here because some people were suggesting they could win six seats. >> clearly they haven't broken that far through. >> well we thought they could win 3 or 4. the exit poll said two two. >> so probably bristol west and brighton pavilion, bristol central. >> yes. and the brighton centre. well, even the brighton seat wasn't completely safe for the greens because caroline lucas, the long standing green mp, stood down. so it was, so who knows exactly what will happen with the greens, but it looks like a not a massive breakthrough, but the, the general feeling of the polls, or the exit polls is it's not as great for labour as it might have been. so we crunched the numbers to work out what would be the equivalent national vote
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share. yes. so remember that , share. yes. so remember that, before the election, labour had a lead of about 20% in the polls, eased very slightly in the last few days. but on our figures, we think labour are on about 36, 36, 36, down a little bit on the polls and this is astonishing. and the conservatives on 26. so a gap between the two parties and maybe around about 10. >> wow. well, on that note, i'm going to throw it back to you , going to throw it back to you, stephen and camilla, because my goodness, 36% for the labour party and getting a majority that looks like this, that is a simply astonishing figure, >> thank you very much indeed, tom, we'll get on to vote. share. i think, in a minute, and probably speak to jeff and gloria about it. before that, tory chaps. i'm joined now by former defence minister james heappey , now you've had time to heappey, now you've had time to digest the figures. look, to be fair, the conservatives being on a three figure seat number is probably no bad thing. there was talk.i probably no bad thing. there was talk. i know of you plunging below the 100 mark, but let's be honest, this is a catastrophic
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defeat for the conservatives. you've lost 241 seats, which is just devastating, isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, there's no getting away from it. >> this is the worst result since i think , 1906. >> this is the worst result since i think ,1906. i think since i think, 1906. i think matt was saying earlier on it's the equivalent since then. and thatis the equivalent since then. and that is something that the party is going to have to actually come to terms with. think about in terms of what we do next and where the party moves next. you know, there's a huge number of people across the country who have worked hard and will be devastated by this. our members, our supporters, members of parliament and candidates themselves. so the party is going to have to step back and have a think about this. what's going to be interesting as we go through the night is to see the vote share the turnout levels, whether labour have won not just a landslide in terms of parliamentarians, but whether they've won that popular vote in a level that means that they have overwhelmingly won, or are they going to have to be very cautious themselves about the fact that there isn't that overwhelming wider public support if they win with a very low vote share, then it tells us we're in that period, which i have to say, i've said for a few weeks, i think we are of huge
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potential volatility between elections. so there will be a real pressure, understandably, on the government to make sure it's delivering for people across this country or the next election. you can see things changing dramatically. >> potentially you can focus on labourin >> potentially you can focus on labour in a minute, but why has this gone so badly wrong for the tories? james hubris, conceit? >> election caught at the wrong time. >> but whenever you call it this yean >> but whenever you call it this year, a result of this sort was coming , coming, >> but nobody can understand why . >> but nobody can understand why. >> but nobody can understand why. >> no. >> no. >> well, you can for see reform shapps 13 seats. i mean, some people were writing nigel farage off, writing them all off, and said they wouldn't win any or only a handful. reform suggests that huge numbers of conservative voters have rejected you and opted for change. >> and camilla, there's the worst thing. matt just sounded the alarm. that number of reform mps and that number of lib dem mps and that number of lib dem mps in the exit poll suggest to
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me that 131 might be still a little high. i just it just feels to me that that is, we're going to end up with a number a bit below that. yeah. you know, people have this is an incredible rejection of what brandon and i and our colleagues have delivered in government over the last five years. and every single one of us, whether we think that we were part of the various cliques that brought down one prime minister or another, whichever wing of the party we're on, if anybody is sat there watching this tonight as a conservative member of parliament from 2019 to 2024 and saying nothing to do with me , saying nothing to do with me, guv. they're kind of missing the point. this is a whole party moment of introspection and reflection. >> all right, well, look, there's a lot of celebration on my right hand side with these two before we have a chat, i just want to take you down to clacton on sea in essex, because mark white is there for us. where? i mean, if you believe these figures, mark, it looks like nigel farage should do pretty well tonight .
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pretty well tonight. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, i think they will be pleased as punch , there's no pleased as punch, there's no doubt about it, speaking to reform before the election, if they had got 2 or 3 mps returned, they would have been pretty happy. but talk of 13 mps being returned. well clearly they'd be absolutely delighted. we can give you a look down onto the floor here. the counting floor at clacton leisure centre, the postal boats, the votes are already here. they're being verified as we speak. and we're told that the first of the main votes are due to come in within the coming minutes. here. no sign of nigel farage or indeed any of the other candidates at this stage as well. but with the news from the exit polls and of course, they are on the exit polls , time will tell when the polls, time will tell when the actual counts are declared. but if we are looking anywhere near
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13 mp5 if we are looking anywhere near 13 mps returned, then does that mean that nigel farage is returned? well, of course , here returned? well, of course, here he's got a bit of a stiff task up against gyles watling's, 24, almost 25,000 majority in the 2019 election. he's not one of the big parties, of course, going up against the conservatives here. this is a new party. but of course, with nigel farage at the helm and that's what the party activists have been telling me, that really the farage factor here in this constituency is very much helped them when they've been out on the streets, they've had a lot of positive feedback. so a lot of positivity about this particular count. it would be an absolute shock, of course, if nigel farage was not returned as an mp here in clacton. but what will happen elsewhere in the country, because you've got key figures like the former reform leader richard tice standing,
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predicted to do well, lee anderson, of course, the former conservative mp who crossed the across to reform when he was suspended from the conservative party also predicted to do quite well up there . so all eyes, well up there. so all eyes, i think, on reform, it's definitely one of the big stories i think that will emerge in the hours ahead. >> okay, keeping a close eye on it, we're back to you pretty shortly, mark. for now. thanks very much indeed, right. shall we talk labour? jeff hoon gloria de piero here, as much as you're smiling all the way through all this and understandably so. >> very rare, stephen, but very rare. >> but i'll tell you what, in terms of vote share, a valid point is raised with that, isn't it? and i know we don't have the figures yet , it? and i know we don't have the figures yet, but if it? and i know we don't have the figures yet , but if the vote figures yet, but if the vote share is comparatively low, that means zero. honeymoon for keir starmer 410 mps. >> me and jeff remember in 2019 when that exact moment happened
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and we will watch not together , and we will watch not together, but watching the exit poll come in and saying, oh my god, we are going down the fact that this transformation is happening, which i didn't think was possible in one term, and let's not make any bones about this. this is a landslide for the labour party. it's remarkable. keir starmer, we're not just talking about jeremy corbyn. he you know who was leading when i was watching, we were watching that terribly opinion poll. he is no longer a labour mp, you know, not just not labour leader. no longer a labour mp. this is a changed labour party. and keir starmer , he might be a and keir starmer, he might be a bit boring, but he's done this. >> but that boring factor may have played a role in this. gloria and jeff because if the vote share is, for instance, below 40% and that's what was secured by jeremy corbyn as unpopular as he might now be with keir starmer, he got 40% in both 2019 and indeed 2017, because one factor of those two
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elections was the absence of the brexit party as it was then. now reform. so if that vote share is below 40% and yet they have this extraordinary large majority, the fourth biggest in history, it's not the supermajority that was projected, although i'm heanng was projected, although i'm hearing on my whatsapp groups that actually it might be a bit too punchy to put the conservatives at one, three, one and even reform at 13. it might level out a bit, but if he's got under 40, jeff, that does think make things problematic. also, he's not popular, is he? tony blair went into government on i think plus 23. starmer is going into government on —19. >> but this result, if it is a result, is a direct consequence of first past the post as an electoral system for a long, long time, the tories have risen to power on the back of the left of centre vote, being divided between the liberal democrats and the labour party. this is now been reversed because what is happening now is that the votes on the right are split and
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therefore they're not getting candidates elected. to the extent that they might have expected. so this is a direct consequence of our electoral system. nobody should be particularly surprised about the difference between the vote share and the number of seats, if that is actually the result, because the direct consequence of a split in the right wing vote. >> but isn't it also an indication that this is this has been nothing more than a protest election? >> well , well, no. election? >> well, well, no. you election? >> well , well, no. you see, let >> well, well, no. you see, let me just sort of address the point about jeremy corbyn getting a reasonably high vote share. it is completely and utterly useless for the labour party to pile up votes in manchester, liverpool, bristol, london. completely useless. it gets you nowhere if you can't gets you nowhere if you can't get votes in the places you need to win. what was so heinous about that last election is that we lost our heartlands, and i don't just use that phrase casually. they're the places of our heart. they represent the communities that we were founded to represent. we, the labour party, were established to give working class representation in parliament. it was a stain on
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our character to lose those seats last time. they are coming back to us. so it's not just in your london's and manchester's. we will be seeing your durham's and your doncaster's coming back.i and your doncaster's coming back. i mean, we're going to be watching every seat as they are announced. >> so obviously stay tuned for as long as you can stay up, because we're going to be having all of the action, and it looks as if we'll be having some fun tonight. everybody on the panel but gloria, one, survey by yougov struck me in the week that i just thought was interesting. and i take your point and nobody is taking away from labour. what a victory this is for keir starmer tonight, however, isn't it telling that when yougov asked voters what was their main reason for backing the party, backing the labour party, 48% said simply to get the tories out when they actually are? asked whether it's about keir starmer's leadership, just 1% said yes. when they say is it about labour's policies ? is it about labour's policies? just 1% said yes. but do you know what about getting do you know what about getting do you know what? >> do you know what, camilla? if jeremy corbyn had been the
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leader of the labour party, they would not have given us that chance. they would have probably. yeah, i'm absolutely certain. and my, my comrades on my right. >> yeah. >> yeah. i >> yeah. i mean >> yeah. i mean there's >> yeah. i mean there's no >> yeah. i mean there's no way and look we ended up we've as james said, we've got ourselves to blame in the sense that we've called an election that our party was clearly not ready for. we had about 200 seats not selected. >> labour were ready. so they were organised. >> i mean, how much responsibility must the prime minister take? well, look, we've all this initial exit. >> i agree with james and i said this the other night, you know, if you're in government, you've all played a part. we have all been involved in this. >> we all have some culpability. we have been the conservative party for the last 14 years. and people have whether they have voted against us or stayed home, they have not. they've chosen not to vote for us tonight. we've all got to take some responsibility for that. but i think gloria is absolutely right. if jeremy corbyn was still leader of the labour party, we'd be in a very, very different political structure all together for both parties. >> i'll tell you who it isn't going to be leader of the conservative party for very much longer. and that's rishi sunak
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this is richmond in north yorkshire. this is where rishi sunakis yorkshire. this is where rishi sunak is standing now, whether he's going to win his seat or not, we just don't know. we can't drill down into that just yet. in terms of the exit poll, that we will try and get more details, but that's them all. preparing for those ballot boxes to come in and the count to begin . let's also head to the begin. let's also head to the man who will be prime minister according to these latest figures. and that's sir keir starmer, holborn and saint pancras is where he's standing. christopher hope, our political edhonis christopher hope, our political editor, is there. evening, chris. >> hi, stephen. yeah what a result. >> here. you join me here in camden waiting for the count of holborn. >> saint pancras, if you spin around this way, i think, paul, you'll see the verification process taking shape already as the ballots come in. sir keir starmer will be here later on in the wee small hours to hear the result. he's almost certainly going to be re—elected as the mp for holborn and saint pancras. i've got to tell you when that
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result, when the exit poll announced this labour landslide, there was cheers and whoops here in camden from somewhere in the building . they clearly can't building. they clearly can't believe it. labour. it's gone way beyond what they thought they'd get back in 2019. i've had my phone is a light with whatsapp messages. someone says to me it's not a landslide, this is a tsunami and that's the scale. we've got. remarks from pat mcfadden , the labour's pat mcfadden, the labour's general election coordinator. he says that immediately with our first steps for change and what that means is a very busy weekend as this government wants to get going. but we are seeing the biggest landslide, the biggest majority for a labour party since tony blair's in 1997. quite extraordinary. look at the names of those who might fall. if this exit poll is correct. it's very early stages, big beasts though, jeremy hunt goes grant shapps goes penny mordaunt goes, iain duncan smith goes , jacob rees—mogg to lose goes, jacob rees—mogg to lose his seat. all those are forecast in this exit poll. they may not be right. they may hang on. also
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worth noting the scale of the reform advance here. 13 mps is way beyond what nigel farage i think was even privately expecting. we had that forecast from an electoral calculus a week ago , the final poll mrp week ago, the final poll mrp poll for gb news saying there would be 18 reform mps. most people thought a handful two, three, 4 or 5, but 13 is the bridgehead, which nigel farage farage has talked about. if that happens, he wants to try. he's starting a five year project to take over the right wing of politics, and 13 gives that opportunity. look at the lib dems 61 mps. if proved right, the tories down to 131. that's the tories down to 131. that's the lowest in modern political history for a tory party. they are fighting a battle here to survive as a political entity. i think after today. >> okay , christopher, for now, >> okay, christopher, for now, thanks very much indeed. just watching on that other picture, you can see the ballot, but i don't know quite where which constituency that is, but oh, thatis constituency that is, but oh, that is it. camden. oh right. there you go. so that's just
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behind chris there. and those ballot boxes arriving so that counting is about to begin. i wonder what happens to your ballot paper when it goes in that box. well, here you go. this is this is what happens. a long night ahead for those counties . well, there's downing counties. well, there's downing street for you. this morning. it is 1030 at this evening, i should say i don't know what time of day it is. so it's all pretty calm, is it? well, mind you, what would you expect at the moment? but at some point, of course, we're going to see a lot of movement in downing street over the next 24 hours. >> james, you've made an interesting observation. while we were just hearing that report from, christopher, hope you're making a point about the others. it seems to be that there are 19 others projected in the exit poll, and that means people that aren't standing for those main parties. tell me what you're observing from that particular figure. >> so if the exit poll, 19 others, there are 18 northern
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ireland constituencies, and then 21 on this exit poll, we've got i thought it was 19. well, in which case that's the even even more juicy because if it's 21, you've got 18 northern ireland constituencies. lindsay hoyle 19, which leaves two. so actually i was going to make the point. it looks like corbyn and galloway haven't won. but if it's 21 not 19, then actually there are two non northern ireland and non speaker mps elected could be the greens or no because the greens were the greens were a separate number in their own right. >> the greens have gone up from one up to two. so. so that would and plied plied were listed separately. >> and so too were the snp . so >> and so too were the snp. so i'm afraid that means it might mean galloway and corbyn their two characters. when i was about to fist pump and think, well, they good riddance, fellow journalist, the other thing i wouldn't mind is you two are on whatsapp groups here. >> what are your fellow conservative colleagues saying to you at the moment, >> no. so look on the main, on the main group, on on the main
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group . deathly silence. right. group. deathly silence. right. and you know that something is not quite right when that's the case, on the other groups, stuff that colleagues won't thank us for broadcasting because, look, there's a lot of recrimination. >> there's a reality that if you and i obviously we've been we've all been candidates. and james and i very recently 19 doesn't feel that long ago. if you were a candidate, you get that point where no matter what the polls are saying to you, you're going to be different in your patch. >> so did you really think that? >> so did you really think that? >> well, that's bananas in the 19. >> but yeah, but you as a candidate you always have to have that belief that you're going to do something there. could, you know, your data will tell you. so there'll be a lot of people within that group of conservatives who haven't won tonight, who were still believing there was always a you just don't know until the last minute. so there'll be a lot of them who are still in a state of shock tonight. >> it's going to be a long night if we're in the stages of grief , if we're in the stages of grief, according to some of your whatsapp. where are we at the moment? we're in the denial stage or no no no no no no no no ho. [10. >> no. >> just for people watching at
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home. >> they need to sort of if they've ever had that horrible moment where their managers called them into the office and told them they've lost their job and they weren't expecting it, or they kind of were, but they were hoping it wouldn't be them. they've just found out that they've probably lost their job. and not just they've lost their job, but the three, four, five, six people that work for them in parliament and in their constituency have also lost their jobs, too. so there's a kind of really human thing going on at the moment. but yes , power on at the moment. but yes, power is obviously changing hands. huge political story. plenty of people in a sort of dispassionate way, a political way. we're just saying we had it coming. but there's also a personal thing whereby best part of 1200, 1500 people have lost their jobs with that, with that. >> and it's like just anger at the prime minister >> continue that metaphor about your manager calling you in. remember that you have worked for your manager as hard as you possibly can for six weeks. you are called to in that meeting between 4 and 5:00 in the morning after being up for 24 hours. yes. so just to continue
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that personal element , it's that personal element, it's a very difficult time. >> i was asking about anger at the manager, but let's get on to that in just a moment. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> because it's been all this talk about vote share. we haven't got all the figures through yet. and of course it's only on exit polls that we're working at the moment rather than the real results . however, than the real results. however, just how well could the reform party actually have done? let's head over to tom. >> yeah, we've all been talking about these numbers of seats. and if we look at the exit poll, we can see those numbers of seats. we've been through them, of course, for labour ten, conservatives 131. and right down there reform 13. but what about the numbers of votes? well, we've been crunching the numbers behind the scenes and let's look at our vote share prediction here. look at that number for reform. they jumped from below the liberal democrats to above the liberal democrats, 17% for reform is our initial estimate for the vote share for reform, we can see that 36% number for labour. that's less than boris johnson got last time
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around. it's less than david cameron got in 2015, when he won 37% of the vote. but of course these are initial figures. but it looks like a ten point lead for the labour party rather than the 20 point lead the polls were suggesting. but wow, look at that difference. 17% for reform. that translates according to the exit poll into 13 seats. now the lib dems winning 61 seats, but on vote share 9.4. it's also worth noting the greens picking up 6, but the exit poll saying two seats. clearly there'll be a lot of wasted green votes around in the country as well. and wow, look at that snp vote. of course that's uk wide, but 2.6. i think the headline figure there is by vote share. look at that 17% for the reform party. that's perhaps at the upper end of what some pollsters were predicting . pollsters were predicting. >> eight should we head down to godalming and ash? it's one of
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these new constituencies, an awful lot of them at moment, but it's where the chancellor, jeremy hunt, is standing. adam cherry is there for us now . cherry is there for us now. should he lose his seat, it'd be the first chancellor in history i think, to do so. adam, how's it looking in in light of what we've seen from these exit polls? yeah >> well, even guys, the exit poll is absolutely shocking . poll is absolutely shocking. >> it's sent shockwaves throughout this count here because if the liberal democrats are on 61 seats, it means that jeremy hunt is in real trouble. i was speaking to someone from a conservative party source yesterday, and they said if the if the liberal democrats were hovering around the 60 to 70 range, jeremy hunt may as well pack his bags. so the exit poll is not is not going to be comforting for the chancellor this evening. in fact, when the when the poll was announced at 10:00, there was a bit of a gasp in this room, which you might expect. there are actually two counts going on here, by the way , counts going on here, by the way, it's godalming and ash, both new constituencies, godalming and ash and farnham and bordon. so
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there are two results. we're expecting the chancellor's result, which is godalming and ash at about 330. so that's when things will all kick off. but as i say, not democrats will be very, very happy in keeping their eyes peeled on the result here later this evening . here later this evening. >> okay, thanks very much indeed for that. adam. jeff, you wanted to make a point, i think, counter to my point about keir starmer as nigel farage described him being blair without the flair . without the flair. >> it's just that on the doorstep. and i knocked on more doorstep. and i knocked on more doors in this election than i think at any time since i first became involved in the labour party , people were asked about party, people were asked about excitement and they said they'd had excitement, they'd had the excitement , so—called of liz excitement, so—called of liz truss and boris johnson. and that's what they're looking for is a competent, that's what they're looking for is a competent , cautious, decent is a competent, cautious, decent man to run the country. and that's exactly what they're going to get in. keir starmer, not the excitement of swinging from ziplines or ill thought out budgets. somebody who can manage the country in an effective way.
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and yet people said that to me over and over again. >> and yet a lot of people appeared to have been supporting appeared to have been supporting a man who has been at thorpe park on a slip and slide , park on a slip and slide, jumping in and out of lake windermere and being quite the thrill seeker. jeff, can we go back? sorry to push this point, chaps, but there must be some sort of self—reflection from rishi sunak right now where he's sitting up in richmond. of course, we will keep you abreast with the result there as soon as it drops. there's even been some suggesting in some of these mrp polls that the prime minister might become the first in history to lose his seat. i'm asking you about the mood on some of the whatsapps, because the blame game will begin and it will begin in earnest. and how much responsibility does rishi sunak need to take? brandon, you made the point that he called the election earlier than anyone anticipated and actually it did prove to be a mistake. >> well , look, i prove to be a mistake. >> well, look, i think rishi is somebody who will feel this very strongly and ultimately he is the leader of the party. he was
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the leader of the party. he was the prime minister. he didn't wait until the very last minute for an election and then call it when he had to call it. he chose when he had to call it. he chose when to call it, and he'll know that he made that decision. that's nobody else's issue . the that's nobody else's issue. the prime minister makes that decision. i suspect right now that's weighing on him very, very strongly. the fact that we're even in a position where sitting prime minister, one of the safest or as was safest seats in the country , and we're seats in the country, and we're wondering if he might be at risk, is doing the count now, by the way, brandon, it's shocking up the votes. it's a shocking place to be. and he will go down as the conservative prime minister and leader, who had the worst election result in over a century. he won't. that's not something he would have been looking to do when he became leader of our party. >> i know there's all the talk about the timing, right? i mean, he probably was between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the timing, but how much of it falls down to the five pledges he outlined his five pledges he outlined his five pledges and said, judge me on whether i achieve this. and basically he didn't achieve anything. >> i don't i don't think that that will end up being most most
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of the public probably will. couldn't tell you what the five pledges were. no, of them don't know exactly where we'd got to in terms of the progress on that . in terms of the progress on that. there's just a sense that our party had had lost its way , was, party had had lost its way, was, you know, sort of, you know, in such disarray as to not be doing a particularly good .gov me with that. no, i don't actually. i mean, i actually think that there were plenty of really good things going on in government, but when the narrative is set, the narrative is set, and that doesn't really matter. >> five prime ministers in nine years. it's not normal glory. >> of course it's not. and i don't think we should pretend otherwise. and i you know, i do think the prime minister and in fairness to rishi, he is the sort of guy that will put his hands up and own this. but the greatest advantage, a general has when on the offensive is choosing battle at a date and time to their advantage. and we rishi did that, but with no advantage. there are also a
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group of people around him who i suspect a lot of colleagues will be quite angry at, and some of them arriving in the house of lords this evening. yeah, the time might cause 1 or 2 raised eyebrows. >> we'll get on, get on to the, dissolution honours list a little later, but let's cross now to our gb news election watch party in essex. >> patrick christys is there ? >> patrick christys is there? patrick, are you having a party? are you having a good time? >> okay, we are live here at the gb news general election watch party. anneliese a fantastic atmosphere here in essex. look atmosphere here in essex. look at this , everybody. yes, indeed. at this, everybody. yes, indeed. now i am found possibly the happiest man in the room at the moment. what's your name? >> my name is vinnie. and why are you particularly chuffed with this exit poll result, vinnie? well, only potentially, but i put a bet on of a thousand
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thousand pound for reform to get seven plus seats in the general election. so there we go. >> loud cheers here. and vinnie, you would stand to win roughly how much? >> £2,750. and yes, i have said i will buy a drink for everybody in the room . in the room. >> there you go . >> there you go. >> there you go. >> so vinnie's made everybody incredibly happy. and where have you come from to be here today, vinnie? >> market harborough in leicestershire, market harborough, leicestershire. >> good stuff. we've had people travelling from dundee, we've got somebody sleeping in a campervan outside, although we're not really supposed to be saying that actually, sorry to anyone who owns this premises , anyone who owns this premises, we'll have to guard it and keep it safe. we've had people coming from all over county durham everywhere really, so it is fantastic to be here and to have so many of you here. sir, can i just ask yourself, how do you feel about what we've seen so far , a labour landslide? look, far, a labour landslide? look, it's all very well and good. you know, we've got vinnie here who's won a bit of money on reform. and crucially, we're all drinking as a result of it, so well done, mate. but the labour landslide . does that bother you?
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landslide. does that bother you? >> no, because i voted labour. yeah. there we go. >> yes , peter. >> yes, peter. >> yes, peter. >> he was the tour he's got over 100. >> so what made you go labour then ? what? what do you like then? what? what do you like about it? >> stability. >> stability. >> stability. >> stability ? yeah. are you >> stability? yeah. are you bothered about anything in particular. you know any of their policies like votes for 16 year olds or things like that. anything. oh i said we need to pay anything. oh i said we need to pay more taxes to pay for the stuff that's falling apart. so and how are you going to be sitting to next vinnie all night? >> we're fine. we're buddies already, especially now. i'm a drink. >> not buying him a drink. drink. >> not buying him a drink . all >> not buying him a drink. all right. i'm going to throw you over to michelle dewberry. now, who's on the stage? well done guys. fantastic that. >> thank you very much for that patrick. yes everybody. this is going to be. let's face it, the party of the century. let me ask you tonight who feels optimistic about the next five years. yeah well that fell flat, didn't it ? well that fell flat, didn't it? everybody back over to you at paddington . paddington. >> lovely stuff . michelle,
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>> lovely stuff. michelle, thanks very much indeed. they're having a great time down there. very good. have you got some stuff from cchq? >> i've got a little bit of stuff from cchq. this is a bit of a damage limitation message , of a damage limitation message, i think to journalists. this is a projection, not a result, says a projection, not a result, says a spokesperson. so it's important we wait to see the actual results when they come in. but if these results are correct, it is clear that starmer and angela rayner will be in downing street tomorrow. that means your taxes will rise and our country will be less secure. it's clear that based on this result, we have lost some very good and hard working candidates. this is a long night ahead, and we should wait to see the shape of the government that the shape of the government that the people have chosen. we will know soon enough . i shall bring know soon enough. i shall bring you more cchq updates tonight . you more cchq updates tonight. >> just just before. >> just just before. >> thanks for coming. >> thanks for coming. >> before we head over to the pm's constituency, i just wanted youridea pm's constituency, i just wanted your idea on defence, jeff, because, i mean, a less safe country. we've heard that quite a lot, actually, as a as a former defence secretary, what you make of it, i've always been
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confident that defence is very secure in labour's hands. >> i was defence for secretary six years. in every one of those years, defence spending rose. i'm afraid the conservatives cannot say that the austerity budgets of the early 2010s decimated the defence budget. i'm pleased to say that the defence budget in recent times has got back to the level of 2010, but we had a long period where the armed forces were hollowed out and that was disgraceful. jeff i was i was in the army under a labour government and went to basra in snatch land rovers, and we couldn't get proper body armour tonight. i don't think there's tons of point throwing political punches. tons of point throwing political punches . qus tons of point throwing political punches. qus thing was spectacularly tone death, but that's nonsense. >> all right, we'll come back to that point in just a minute. i'm sure we will, >> let's head up to anna riley, then. she's. she's in the prime minister's newly formed seat at richmond and northallerton. of course, he's waiting for that
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count to come in. what? what's the timing there? anna? when are we expecting a result? >> good evening to you both. >> good evening to you both. >> we're expecting the result at around 4:00 in the morning . around 4:00 in the morning. >> it's verification that you might be able to see behind me. currently going on with the count. not actually starting until between 1 and 2:00 this morning. certainly a very nail biting evening for rishi sunak. he has held this seat since 2015. in 2019, he won with 63% of the vote, over 27,000 of his constituents voted him in. before that, it was held by william hague and it's a true blue constituency, a traditionally safe conservative seat. traditionally safe conservative seat . it's not been held by any seat. it's not been held by any other party, so it would be a real blow for the prime minister if he was to lose his seat here this evening. there's been a mixture of polls, one by savanta saying that he would be likely
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to lose his seat. but a more recent one by yougov saying that he is going to keep his seat. so we'll keep you updated throughout the evening. he, along with 12 other candidates, are standing for here this constituency, including labour, lib dems, the green party and other parties as well. the yorkshire party, the workers party and count binface is going to be here as well. he's standing along with the monster raving loony party and several other independents as well. so a total of 13 candidates sitting here when i've been speaking to people on the streets, a big concern that they've got here is around housing or lack of housing. should i say it's an area where a lot of people buy second homes, or people that are born and bred . younger people in born and bred. younger people in this area struggling to get a foot on the property ladder. also, wider issues around the
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nhs. the friarage hospital was shutin nhs. the friarage hospital was shut in 2019. crucial a&e services taken away from here. so nhs is another big issue for voters in this area, along with them struggling to get gp appointments and also grappling with the cost of living. but we will see if he does hold on to his seat. tom wilson, who is standing for the labour party, has pointed to the election results in may for the brand newly formed metro mayor of nonh newly formed metro mayor of north yorkshire. it was actually won by david scaife, the labour, despite conservatives being tipped to win here in north yorkshire. so, as i say , this yorkshire. so, as i say, this verification going on at the moment and what a blow it would be if rishi sunak did lose his seat. there's no other incumbent prime minister that has lost his constituency. >> okay , anna, thank you very >> okay, anna, thank you very much indeed. we're going to be back to you a lot through the course of the night. and here they go. the counting and it's a great thing if you've ever been to a count. it's fantastic to
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watch people do it. they're incredible people. but there they go. the counting begins and they're going to be at it for hours and hours and hours. and as anna said, hopefully the result around about 4:00 in the morning. >> right. should we go to kingston upon thames now, where the leader of the liberal democrats and residents, stunt man ed davey, is of course, a candidate? looks like he's going to have a very good night. charlie peters . charlie peters. >> that's right. well, and he's the first leader to react to that exit poll, sir ed davey saying that he's humbled that millions have trusted his party, saying that the lib dems are set for their best results in generation. >> he also said it could be the best result for the party in a century, and it's come after that significant campaigning process for the lib dems. >> they've moved away. >> they've moved away. >> as one party source said from a national vote approach to a more targeted seat strategy in their campaign. more targeted seat strategy in their campaign . now more targeted seat strategy in their campaign. now in
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more targeted seat strategy in their campaign . now in 2010, their campaign. now in 2010, they had just eight seats. in 2015, sorry, they had just eight seats nearly electorally wiped out after that coalition period with the conservatives. and in the two elections since then, 2017 and 19, they've dipped between 11 and 12, now rising potentially to 61. it's a significant surge and during the week ed davey said that he was hoping that the party could become the third biggest party in parliament. that now looks set to happen, but he did not want to put a ceiling on the party's ambitions. now, as you've mentioned, there have been some stunts in this campaign, but also some serious policy approaches from the liberal democrats and in particular, they've targeted those so—called blue wall seats. the home counties conservative seats and those in the west of england and they've been pushing a lot of messages on the cost of living on the nhs, but also more niche issues such as sewage . niche issues such as sewage. very popular local issues are clear water, safe water and the rivers in those areas. and also
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further messaging on the care system. so as you said, there's also been lots of issues here with regards to ed davey taking himself onto various stunts we've seen on roller coasters. we've seen him getting involved in water slides and assault course. we're expecting the declaration here near chessington at 3:15 am. chessington at 3:15 am. chessington world of adventures opens at ten. if the lib dems really have got 61 seats, i wonder if they'll take all of the press pack over for a few more. one last go on those rides , more. one last go on those rides, >> okay, brandon said. yeah. >> okay, brandon said. yeah. >> he said, all right, lovely charlie, thanks very much indeed. and you can see again the count is underway. it's, it's going to be a very, very long night for a lot of us, but i'll tell you what. we're going to bring you every single twist and turn here @gbnews from here in the studio, from the data centre with tom from the election party in essex. it's all going on here, right, liberal democrats federal board member callum robertson has
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joined our panel alongside james heale p gloria de piero and geoff hoon here in the studio. good to see you, if this poll is correct, sir, ed davey either because of or despite his stunts over the past six weeks, has pulled you in quite a result. this would be our best result since 2005. in terms of raw, raw seats, i think it shows that actually presenting a slightly different approach , does work. different approach, does work. it gets that media cut through, but actually there's clearly a dissatisfaction with the tories that's taken place in the country. and yes, we've capitalised on that slightly, but actually it's about the next five years. and if we get the labour landslide that we are expecting tonight and that is the case, then it's incumbent on the case, then it's incumbent on the lib because the tories will be caught in what's left of them, will be caught in a, civil war. so it's on the lib dems to really provide the real opposition in this country for the next five years, although you're going to have competition from nigel farage on that front, aren't you? >> if reform has done as well as is projected. also, there was
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some talk that the liberal democrats could be the opposition party. some of the polls were projecting that the tories would do worse than the lib dems. they haven't good result for ed davey . but lib dems. they haven't good result for ed davey. but you lib dems. they haven't good result for ed davey . but you say result for ed davey. but you say this is a result of people not being happy with the conservatives. presumably it's also people who don't like the conservatives, but might think that labour would be even worse and therefore if gone with the middle man, so to speak, callum , middle man, so to speak, callum, i think what we saw in 2019, if we're going for sort of the middle man sort of idea, is that the lib dems typically do well when labour do well, because actually people aren't scared of actually people aren't scared of a labour government. >> i think that's what we're seeing tonight as people aren't terribly scared of a keir starmer government. so yes, they're happy to vote it. but, lib dem, what we, i think have seen is that people really want to see the back of the conservatives, and actually we can use this as a catalyst for long term change in our country to really get a more positive politics away from sort of the culture wars that i think have infected the conservatives and
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the government for the last couple of years. did you really think you'll do that with 60 odd members, i mean, it's one thing to say that's what you want to do, but how much impact i mean, even with 60 members, your best results since 2005, how much cut through will you actually have? we'll have a lot more mps standing up and working hard for local residents, which means that our overall publicity is generally going to be higher. but actually it's about what we're doing in parliament. actually, if you look at some of our mps that are due to be elected, paul kohler and wimbledon, a former law commission member, and law professor is going to be fantastic at actually making sure labour's feet are held to the fire when it comes to actually the quality of the legislation that they're going to be pushing through. and we can say that for a lot of our mps, they're due to be elected tonight. >> gloria, you had a little bit of breaking. well, we don't no , of breaking. well, we don't no, no no, no actually no i'm having conversations because of course we all have personal friends. >> we have colleagues like you do at work, but some of those colleagues are personal friends. so i was worried about, worried about a journalist. tweeting
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that labour were set to lose its two barnsley mps. i that is not clear. i've been on my phone trying to get some reassurance about that. but what i will say is this those the first two seats that are going to declare tonight are heavily leave seats, which stuck with labour last time. yes. and i am very, very keen to see not just in fact not really actually the tories fall. i'm interested to see what has happened happening to the reform vote in those labour seats kind of racism there between sunderland and then the old seat of blyth valley, which has now been renamed, and they're often racing to be first out with the result at about 1230. >> but just on that thing before that, i think we're going to get one in about an hour. okay. but just just on that barnsley point, by the way , the point, by the way, the suggestion is that they might have lost to reform. >> oh sorry. did i not say that. no, no. pardon me would be quite pardon me of something happening a bit of a sort of farage wave
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through parts of the red wall potentially. >> all right. >> all right. >> okay, but i think it's okay at the. okay. i think it may , at the. okay. i think it may, you know, it's clearly it's clearly a much tighter result in barnsley for the labour party, a seat that they held last, both seats that they held last time than we would like . than we would like. >> all right. perfect. have we got time to just have a little chat james heappey about some of these dissolution honours. i'm surprised with the timing of this. why on earth have these honours been announced tonight ? honours been announced tonight? >> i suppose it's there is a somewhat bigger story that that might take people's attention . might take people's attention. >> you know, talk about is it a day to bury other bad news? is it bad news? james ipp i mean, we've got a damehood for therese coffey . she was deputy prime coffey. she was deputy prime minister to liz truss for those few weeks. yeah, we've then got a knight commander of the order of the bath going to oliver dowden. and, we've got another honoun dowden. and, we've got another honour, we think, for liam booth—smith, who has orchestrated this campaign a
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peerage, should these people , peerage, should these people, particularly oliver dowden and liam booth—smith , be rewarded liam booth—smith, be rewarded with honours for what looks to be one of the worst conservative defeats in history, >> no. and certainly not tonight . >> no. and certainly not tonight. colleagues will be delighted for dame. tis lord craig mackinlay. yes, there will be people be thrilled, will delight and sir ben wallace to blooming right. yes. lord booth—smith will stick in the craw. and, sir oliver dowden will to explain that liam booth—smith is rishi sunak the prime minister. so i suppose the sort of team that will have been most closely around the prime minister in deciding to go to the polls when they did , will the polls when they did, will have been his deputy, oliver dowden , his chief of staff, liam dowden, his chief of staff, liam booth—smith, and his political secretary, james forsyth. and i don't want to make any comment on their wider contribution because actually they, they've
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done more than enough by comparison to many in the lords and who have knighthoods, they've, they, they , they've they've, they, they, they've earned their honour just tonight, the connection between a catastrophic result and what appears to be a reward, sucks a bit, doesn't it. >> yeah. it doesn't look great. >> yeah. it doesn't look great. >> and i was just going to say in terms of that, i don't know, there's different bits of information looking at the government website and they're saying, theresa may not therese coffey. no, no , no. coffey. no, no, no. >> so you're absolutely right. theresa may has been given a peerage. but then if you look on the other bit of the gov.uk website, where you're the knighthoods and damehoods are, oh, i see, i see, you'll see david his coffee, sir ben wallace page and honours on another. >> oh there we go. >> oh there we go. >> i only care about the peerages, frankly, no, they're the ones that matter. >> i mean, i think theresa may take a cake. >> someone offer me one. are we happy with theresa may? >> i mean, she was on a ring doorbell in the week, wasn't she, in scotland, knocking on doors, still campaigning. >> so it speaks volumes for her. >> so it speaks volumes for her. >> what? i think she wants to, you know , people like tony
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you know, people like tony blair, gordon brown, david cameron didn't want to go in the lords because they kind of wanted to do things beyond politics. it says a lot about theresa that actually she wants to go into the lords and continue to be a legislator rather than all the other things that would open up for her if she was a dame like sir tony, sir david, or actually lord cameron's name now doing well. yes, his job, but but i thought it was slightly curious if i've read it correctly, is that there are eight labour peerages and only seven tory periods. yes, that's right, which is curious at this stage in the country's constitution, because technically we still have a conservative prime minister. >> and in the interest of bipartisanship, how wonderful to see your former junior minister kevin jones, in the lords as well. >> what a great man. yes, really, really well deserved. >> all right . lovely. thank you >> all right. lovely. thank you all very much indeed. i know you're not going anywhere for the next few hours, but for what we've had in the last hour. thanks very much indeed. it is 11:00 live across the united kingdom. this is gb news,
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britain's election . britain's election. channel. >> live across the united kingdom. this is gb news vote 2024. the people decide i'm camilla tominey i'm stephen dixon. >> we're one hour into our 2024 election coverage . election coverage. >> boxes full of ballots have arrived at counts across the country and the votes are being counted. we're expecting the first seat to be declared within the hour. >> and for those of you just tuning in, the exit poll has predicted the following. >> labour to win 410 seats. the conservatives 131. that gives labour a majority of 170. lib dems projected to get 61 reform , dems projected to get 61 reform, really outperforming all the
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polls so far. that would give them 13 seats. the snp reduced down from 48 to 10. >> this was former justice secretary brandon lewis. reaction >> it's going to be a real shock to a lot of colleagues who might would have still been hoping in the last few days they could make a difference and they are no longer going to be mps. >> and here's what former labour advisor matthew laza had to say about the labour landslide. >> great news. >> great news. >> i mean, this is the change that the country is crying out for is a good start for sir keir, prime minister, we've also had the live reaction of our watch party and here's what one gb news viewer had to say about the projected surge of reform uk. >> well , after uk. >> well, after four uk. >> well , after four weeks >> well, after four weeks i think they've just they're building a fantastic base to work for the future . work for the future. >> well, it's quite a party down there in essex . let's head over there in essex. let's head over to patrick and michelle. >> yes, hello and welcome back to essex for the gb. news,
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general election, watch party. are we all having a good time in here so far i think we are. are we in fantastic. well the mood in the room here is pretty jubilant, although i'm not sure it's, for the labour landslide though. michelle is it? >> it's not. >> it's not. >> but we're putting a shift in. we're all here until the bitter end. we're pulling an all nighter. so as soon as these reactions go, the excitement. look, they're a hardcore bunch here in essex. we're going to have live reactions to all of the results as they come flying in. >> yes, indeed. and just to make you all very jealous, sitting in the studios there in paddington whilst you're picking through the minutia of exit polls , etc, the minutia of exit polls, etc, we're going to be having sharon. we've got we've got elvis on. we've got we've got elvis on. we've got we've got elvis on. we've got all sorts lined up for this lot. so you have drawn the short straw there, but we'll throw back to the studio and we'll keep this all entertained for you. and we'll be seeing you soon, won't we? >> this is a great night, isn't it? just honestly, this is gb news. >> britain's election . channel.
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>> britain's election. channel. >> britain's election. channel. >> well, should we find out what's going on in the seat that keir starmer is hoping to be winning? retaining, we should say , holborn and saint pancras, say, holborn and saint pancras, because keir starmer of course, if he wins that seat and it's looking very, very , very likely looking very, very, very likely looks like he'd be prime minister as well. our political edhon minister as well. our political editor, christopher hope, is there for us. hi chris. >> hi, stephen. yeah. extraordinary evening. i think here i'm here at the count for sir keir starmer, the mp for holborn and saint pancras. he's not here yet, of course, but the labour party is just sitting here agog at the scale of this exit, poll forecast . i'm getting exit, poll forecast. i'm getting texts on my phone from tory mps saying that the big heads are rolling, quite extraordinary names could be going. jeremy hunt may be grant shapps. penny mordaunt, all these names falling. jacob rees—mogg , of the falling. jacob rees—mogg, of the biggest political earthquake. maybe a tsunami. as someone
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said, since labour's win in 1997, i think we are set for an extraordinary next five years, particularly on the right of politics. if reform do get 13 mps, that is the bridgehead which nigel farage told us he wanted to get in parliament. yes yesterday in that interview with gb news, the eve of election interview, that bridge shared that fight for what it is the what is the right standing for in politics will be one of the big subplots over the next five years, but the main story, of course, is labour's huge landslide and what it does with that power . that power. >> okay, okay, chris, chris, thanks very much indeed . thanks very much indeed. >> shall we talk about tory big beasts who might go guys? because on the basis of the exit poll and chris hope said this earlier , it looks as if the earlier, it looks as if the tories might lose jacob rees—mogg, penny mordaunt, liam fox, mark harper , victoria fox, mark harper, victoria prentis, lucy frazer, johnny
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mercer and grant shapps. i name them because all apart from rees—mogg are cabinet members at the moment. i mean, the loss of these people who have been in parliament in the case of liam fox, for instance, james heappey, for a long, long time, it's going to be difficult to think about who and how the conservative party can be stitched back together and who might do it. >> yeah, and that's when all the dust settles. that becomes a really important thing to look at. it's too early to say who the 130 conservative mps will be, but when you sort of get a flavour for who's left, you'll start to get a sense of who they're likely to choose as the top two people in an election race that follows in a leadership race that follows and you know the direction of the party is set . and, you know, party is set. and, you know, we've got hours overnight to talk about what the future is for the conservative party. i
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don't agree, obviously, that callum's sort of suggestion that british politics would just be better if there were no conservative party. i mean, i think that kind of that that's as ridiculous as when people were thinking that the labour party was going to be annihilated under under corbyn. there's always going to be a place for a centre left party like the labour party. there's always going to be a place for a centre right party like the tory party. and so there should be. but what the tory party needs to work out over the coming weeks, and who the mps are, will be a really important part of this is it going to chase after reform or accept that reform now has a space for itself on the political spectrum and the conservatives are better staying where they traditionally have been , and make the case for a been, and make the case for a centre right version of conservatism rather than the reform version. all of this will transpire, but the sort of scorched earth that there's no room in parliament for anybody other than those on the left is would just alienate millions of people around the country who don't have left of centre views.
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yeah, i was just going to say it's interesting because all this talk about can the conservatives rebuild? >> well, labour have rebuilt before, but my god it was painful. >> yeah i and i was elected in 2010. and obviously you think that's the low point because you've just lost power now the danger for parties who have just lost is the temptation to look inwards, to have some sort of ideological purity battle. exactly we have been i mean, it was the most miserable. it was a privilege, but the most miserable introspection. we went from bad to worse to absolutely terrible. so do not, you know, i hope to goodness you do not go through that same journey. >> but there is one crucial difference. >> as far as i'm concerned, whenever the labour party has had to rebuild, it's always rebuilt towards the centre. it's always rebuilt towards the electorate who are in the centre in this country. they're reasonable people. they want to see a reasonable government. what i don't see in the conservative party is a centre.
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all of those one nation tories who were previously prominent people, like ken clarke, were kicked out by right wing ideologues . and that's where the ideologues. and that's where the conservative party is today, isn't it? it's fighting reform. it is not a centre ground party. in the last few years i've been sat in the tea room with blairite colleagues, labour colleagues fearful of mandatory reselection because momentum, the labour party didn't immediately rebuild to the centre. the labour party went off on a whopping great excursion to the left , got it excursion to the left, got it backside handed it to it in the 2019 general election and then has rebuilt very quickly and very successfully back towards the centre. i worry , as gloria the centre. i worry, as gloria just said, i think gloria's analysis is right. the danger is after a defeat like the one we're experiencing tonight, that we're experiencing tonight, that we retreat to our ideological hinterland. but all that we do when we do that is take ourselves further from the centre of mass, where the james that's where the conservative government has been. it's been on the ideological hinterland. it has not been a centre party.
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you've had the opportunity of having centre leaders , and every having centre leaders, and every time they're put forward to election by the party members, they vote for a right winger. >> okay , look, we're going to >> okay, look, we're going to leave it there, guys, just for a second, because we've had some reaction in the exit poll, of course, suggesting labour heading for a landslide victory with a majority of 170 seats and the deputy leader of the labour party, angela rayner, has been sharing her reaction. >> well, the exit poll is incredibly encouraging and it shows the tremendous amount of work that keir starmer has done in transforming the labour party and putting it at the service of working people and hopefully that if the exit poll is near to where the votes are and we've not had a single result yet, then that will give us a mandate to really turn that page on the chaos that we've seen under the conservatives and have a programme that will give us that national renewal and get us on the right track again, and voters will look to a kind of series of problems. >> they see in the uk. what change will labour bring? well,
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as rachel reeves says, first of all, stability is change. so making sure our economy is secure, making sure that all of our programme is fully costed and start to implement those . and start to implement those. so, for example, the nhs appointments that we want to get up and running so that we can bnng up and running so that we can bring down the waiting list because we've got the highest rating list on record that we can get great british energy, so we can have that renewable energy that we need in the uk. so we sell sufficient for our energy needs and bring down people's energy bills. the 1.5 million homes that we desperately need in the uk, which i will be taking forward, and the new deal for working people, which i think again, is about making sure people have secure employment. >> and if the exit polls are correct, you're probably most likely going to be in cabinet in some form. >> what do you personally want to achieve in one of those roles? well i've been in opposition since i was elected in 2015, and it's been an absolute honour to represent my area. but unfortunately in opposition, we're not able to
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affect change in the way that we'd like to . and if i do have we'd like to. and if i do have the honour and the privilege to represent the british people in cabinet, then i'll work really hard every day to affect that change that people deserve. and i think people are fed up of what's been happening over the last 14 years. i think the results are showing that the tories are getting punished for their record in government, and we're acutely aware that whether it's the result in scotland or whether that's the rest of the uk, is that people have put their trust in us and if they have done that, then we have to deliver for them . deliver for them. >> okay, that was deputy labour leader angela rayner reacting to what is predicted to be a labour landslide. according to the exit poll . callum, let's bring you poll. callum, let's bring you into the conversation about parties facing existential cnses parties facing existential crises and how they cope with them. i mean, let's be honest, them. i mean, let's be honest, the coalition almost wiped out the coalition almost wiped out the liberal democrats that reneg that reneging on student tuition fees did you no favours. but you're back. >> but we're back, you're back, we're back with swinging. >> give some advice to the
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tories on how they might rebuild. >> just don't be yourselves. luke miall, no, actually, no . luke miall, no, actually, no. >> on a on a serious, less less, glib note, i would say, actually, don't don't pitch the hard. right, because actually, when the tories pitch the hard right, it's the country that loses, loses out, you made a point earlier about actually britain needs a centre right party. well, the lib dems aren't a centre right party. we're not about to become a centre right party. so there is a space for the conservatives within the political spectrum . now, if you political spectrum. now, if you choose to go off to the reform angle, then i think that is genuinely the end of the sort of modern conservative party >> having said that, some of the criticism of james's party is that some of the tory mps who are on the particularly wet side wouldn't have looked out of place in the liberal democrats. so, you know, there's been this reform resurgence on the back of the fact that tory voters don't think the conservatives have been conservative enough. that doesn't necessarily mean some
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kind of lurch to the right, but perhaps it does mean keeping promises like, we will keep down your taxes and we will keep down immigration. james. i mean, that doesn't require a lurch to the right. it just means keeping to your manifesto. yeah, yeah. >> i mean, that's i think that will be the biggest motivator in the judgement that's being made a sense that we promised a load of stuff and not delivered it. and worse still, we've not delivered it with a massive majority in the house of commons that that would that mandate covid notwithstanding. but to reach a point five years on where so many of the big things we set out to do haven't been done, despite that majority? it's pretty it's fair enough that the public should be so angry, i also i'd be interested to see later on the numbers, because i have a feeling that the lib dem vote share for 15, 17 and 19 was around sort of 8
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to 12. yeah. and so what's amazing is that 9.4% tonight has never delivered 61 seats. what it reflects is the lib dems absolutely lasered in 2 or 3 years ago when they started winning those by elections on the sort of seats where you were going to do well . i fear that going to do well. i fear that the seat i've just vacated is one of them. you understand exactly where your market is and you've gone for it brilliantly. >> i think you make a really got a bit of a bit of breaking news, if you don't mind. >> we understand that bridget phillipson, who's the woman who wants to be the next education secretary, has been re—elected in houghton and sunderland south. as ever, sunderland , that south. as ever, sunderland, that seat in sunderland is one of the first to declare we're going to live shots now of the results across our country , as it so across our country, as it so often is. >> then, after 14 years, the british people have chosen . change. they have chosen labour and they
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have chosen the leadership of keir starmer. have chosen the leadership of keir starmer . today, our keir starmer. today, our country, with its proud history, has chosen a brighter future. the british people have decided that they believe, as labour believes, that our best days lie ahead of us. hope and unity, not decline and division . stability decline and division. stability over chaos a government powered by hope by the belief that tomorrow can not just be different from today, but better. a government of service, a government with purpose above all to change our society for good. a government determined to build a britain where background is no barrier , no matter who is no barrier, no matter who your parents are or where you are born. determined to tear down the barriers to opportunity which hold back too many of our children. that is labour's purpose and the result today speaks to the trust the british
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people have put in our changed labour party and after 14 years as your labour mp in opposition, i am so proud to be part of a party which has tonight not just won the trust of people here in houghton and sunderland south, but of the people across britain. labour will honour the trust that you have placed in us. i will honour the trust that you have placed in me , and i you have placed in me, and i will work every day to deliver the promises that labour has made, and the better future that we, each of us and all of us deserve . from the bottom of my deserve. from the bottom of my heart, thank you . and lastly, heart, thank you. and lastly, i want to say thank you to all of the people who have worked hard to organise and secure today's election and counted the votes this evening . you are the people
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this evening. you are the people who deliver our democracy and we are grateful for your contribution. my thanks to the fellow candidates here in houghton and sunderland south for a good tempered campaign. to my fantastic local labour party for your unwavering support and to my wonderful agent, les scott. thank you . scott. thank you. >> okay, so that's bridget phillipson, the shadow education secretary, retaining her seat of houghton and sunderland. let me just give you the figures for the votes that she won. she won 18,883. but interestingly, the reform candidate, sam wood brass won 11,668. so that seat there in sunderland has witnessed a 3.3% swing from labour to reform. the conservatives came in third place there with 5514 votes. so that's indicating
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reform in second place. beyond the conservatives, perhaps indicative of that exit poll suggesting that nigel farage's party has done better than expected, >> 51% turnout there, which in the great scheme of things doesn't seem too bad. well, it's low, but it's not as low as perhaps we were thinking it might be. so. but anyway, we'll see. it's only one seat, isn't it? it's one seat. anyway, let's head over to the data centre. and tom. >> yes? we're still waiting for some of this data to get in, to be crunched and to be run through . but we can look about through. but we can look about what we know so far , what we know so far, particularly with regard to some of these big beasts we've been talking about. i'm joined by martin baxter of electoral calculus, and we're going to start in the eastern region with this heat here. it's called welwyn hatfield. it's the seat of grant shapps. what do we reckon is going to happen to grant ? grant? >> so on the basis of the exit poll, his seat seems to be in danger that labour are very strong challengers in this seat , strong challengers in this seat, and he might well lose his seat if the exit poll is correct . if the exit poll is correct. >> now there's another seat in
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this region, basildon and billericay. this is where the chairman of the conservative party is standing. what's going to happen here? >> again, a similar story, though very close. if the exit poll is correct, this seat is a marginal on a knife edge , but marginal on a knife edge, but richard holden might lose basildon and billericay. it's only going to be one to watch and that should be declared around about quarter past midnight. so that will be coming up soon to wait to see if this marginal if the tories would lose it to the reform party, >> one other thing that we've been talking about a very interesting sorry, just say that's to labour. >> that's to labour, marginal con labour, marginal labour marginal. >> this one's very interesting. southwest norfolk, it's the seat of liz truss now of course we're not particularly confident about any of these at this stage. but what do you think might be happening here. >> i mean it's hard to say, but if the exit poll is right, this could be turn out to be a close race between the conservatives and reform. in liz truss's seat, liz truss is not home and dry. i'd say that there's a risk of reform, but equally, reform has got more uncertainty than the
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other parties on it because they don't have such a track record in all the seats. so it's a bit speculative at the moment, but one to watch, one to watch there, that one will be coming up maybe much later in the in the night, much, much later. >> and just boston and skegness here, your numbers pretty certain now for reform on the bafis certain now for reform on the basis of the exit poll . basis of the exit poll. >> yes. if the exit poll is anything like. right. boston, skegnessis anything like. right. boston, skegness is really reform second safest seat. so if they're going to win anything like 13 seats or so, then richard tice should win in boston. and skegness. >> really interesting there. so that would be matt warman, the conservative losing but very interesting one to watch on liz truss there a bit later in the evening. of course we'll be back with here as soon as we get that bridget phillipson result into the map. we'll know a bit more. >> lovely stuff tom. thank you . >> lovely stuff tom. thank you. >> lovely stuff tom. thank you. >> we're going to go back to essex. >> i think we better have a bit of a party. patrick and michelle are there . are there. >> okay. hello and welcome back
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to the gb news watch party. we have moved from the main area there where very shortly share is going to be taking to the floor to the bar area. haven't we? hey. and you'll be able to see this legend here. well, come on in, bobby. here he is. >> come on. »- >> come on. >> so we've just had the. we've just had the first seat reveal and sunderland . labour. and sunderland. labour. >> hold it. what do you think ? >> hold it. what do you think? >> hold it. what do you think? >> i think reform should win big time . time. >> do you? >> do you? >> well, actually, funnily enough, you should say that because actually reform came second in that seat. what do you think about that ? yeah, i think think about that? yeah, i think that's incredible. >> i see sense what do you think about reform coming second in sunderland? >> well, they say i want my country back. >> i say we want our country back. >> yes. >> yes. >> well, you know, bobby's bobby's been teaching people here how to play darts, which has been absolutely fantastic. we've had a couple of good ones, a couple of not so good ones, haven't we? but one of the favourites so far , bobby, has favourites so far, bobby, has been this chap in the wonderful union jack waistcoat that we've
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got over here. and we'll, we'll come round. there we are. brilliant. so. so where have you come from? >> all the way from romford. >> all the way from romford. >> romford. all right. now what, what do you make of what we've seen so far? which is what we're expecting is, you know, reform to come second in quite a lot of, a lot of seats. you seem to be in favour of that. >> well, to be fair , i think the >> well, to be fair, i think the conservatives have got themselves to blame for the way it's turned out. >> i've always been a conservative voter and i feel really sorry for andrew rosindell, who's the local mp for me. and, and i was actually hoping that he, he manages to stay in, but, i think the senior people in the conservative party got a lot, a lot to answer for. >> i wonder if we could ask people what some of the best what's some of the biggest, most important issues for you guys have been at this election? is there anyone who wants to volunteer? what's been the most important thing for you, our kids, to grow up like i did and in a great country. >> but now i worry about them. >> but now i worry about them. >> i said to them, if i was to
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die tomorrow, i could say i've had a great life. >> i feel sorry for you. >> i feel sorry for you. >> okay . it's gone. >> okay. it's gone. >> okay. it's gone. >> i think it's the economy and what we're going to go with taxes and see what happens and what labour really have, i think i think the economy, taxes and immigration, i think we just need some hope. >> i think that's really key, actually . actually. >> does anyone feel optimistic in this room? >> yes, yes, yes. >> tell me why. >> tell me why. >> because in four weeks what's been achieved, what can be achieved in five years? getting the nation united. >> so there you go. there you go. >> there is some optimism in this room tonight . this room tonight. >> anyone else? go on. >> anyone else? go on. >> sir, what do you think ? >> sir, what do you think? >> sir, what do you think? >> well, i just think the two main issues are immigration and high taxes. and i'm paying more tax than i've ever spent. and the immigration is out of control. and the two main parties are pro immigration and pro high taxes. >> so i think they're both
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socialist parties. >> they're too socialist for me . >> they're too socialist for me. and the only alternative was reform. oh well, i'm a conservative voter and i've got a good councillor, iain duncan smith, and i feel a bit sorry for him , but i've had to go with for him, but i've had to go with my heart and vote reform and they say , oh, you have had calls they say, oh, you have had calls from the conservative party saying you are to blame, that labour are getting in. but to be honest , they are to blame honest, they are to blame because they've settled people with the highest tax and the highest immigration the country has seen. >> what choice have we got? reform the only option . reform the only option. >> yeah, it's interesting to hear all of that, isn't it? and i wonder, how do people feel when if you did vote reform, when if you did vote reform, when you were told that it's you who were now responsible for a, for a, you know, a left wing socialist government? there's a few heads shaking. you're shaking your hand, sir, because some people would say, i mean, rishi sunak's been saying this since day dot , hasn't he? you
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since day dot, hasn't he? you know, if you vote for reform it's your fault of keir starmer gets into downing street. how do you feel about that? >> i think it's ridiculous to be honest, the tories were never going to get in after what they've done for the country over the last few years. they've made all the wrong decisions. >> people are fed up . >> people are fed up. >> people are fed up. >> it was either voting for, say , >> it was either voting for, say, reform or just sitting on your hands, just staying at home, but not stealing votes from people. reform party is the start of a movement. the election isn't over today . this is the start of over today. this is the start of a new movement. and i think that reform is the hope for the country. like that lady said, okay, okay. >> well, there's a lot of a lot of chairs in the room. so can i ask you when we're looking now at a labour landslide, which we are expecting, we've just seen in sunderland there, bridget phillipson has got in the shadow education secretary. education has been a big issue at this election , not just with private
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election, not just with private schools but also potentially with things like gender, ideology, etc. being taught in schools. does any of that bother you at all? >> well, it does, because back when i was back in school, i wasn't part of that generation where has been told, you know, you can be one of these 72 genders. >> and now i look at it and i'm quite it bothers me a lot because i don't want my kids. if ihave because i don't want my kids. if i have kids growing up and going through that and being taught silly things right now, we're just going to just follow me here because. >> bobby, have you still got your dance with you, mate? they're somewhere. all right. well, i'm just wondering if we might be able to get a shot of this dance board, right now. and what i would like to do is just. bobby's been teaching everyone here how to actually throw some of these darts. so, sir, could i get you to come on? and bobby's very, very quickly going to teach you how to throw a dart. and the. i think we should say have a go. maybe, maybe the number that it lands on is possibly going to be the amount of hours it might be for rishi sunak to resign . so there we go.
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sunak to resign. so there we go. are we ready ? are we ready? >> well, can you put some light on the dartboard? >> we can't see it. >> just love it. >> just love it. >> love it. can you put. can you put a light on the dartboard, son? can you put your camera, the light on the bible? that's it. well done director. now >> oh that's it. >> oh that's it. >> good shot off a little bit . >> good shot off a little bit. oh no, not to to i i. >> oh well according to this, according to this it's going to be 21 hours until rishi sunak resigns . so it's back to you in resigns. so it's back to you in the studio. >> but you've played before. >> but you've played before. >> i know mr direct inverse between the tories and reform , between the tories and reform, so i don't think. there you go. can't beat a game with the old arrows. >> indeed, it's a game of arrows. we could do with that now couldn't we? >> just see what you can hit. see what you can hit. all right, let's check on things north of the border. should we are gb news scotland reporter tony maguire is in glasgow for us. where the 57 seats being contested. tony >> yes. good evening.
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>> yes. good evening. >> 57in all of scotland. >> 57in all of scotland. >> not just glasgow. it'sjust >> not just glasgow. it's just get that right from the off. six seats will be declared here at the emirates centre in glasgow. of course. glasgow, scotland's biggest city, once a labour heartland, then one over quite thoroughly by the snp in 2015, after the independence referendum. but from the huge roar of a cheer, just a stroke after 10:00 tonight, you might well think that the labour camp here in glasgow thinks that that is going to be a return to the ways of old. now, looking at those numbers from this exit poll, ten seats from the for the snp, understandably, lots of people have been weighing into the discussion with the former first minister alex salmond, calling this potential slaughtering of the snp and john swinney, scotland's first minister. he's maintained that the nationalists have kept a very upbeat campaign, but says that it doesn't look good a
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point of view shared by nicola sturgeon, who says that this is looking to be a very unfortunate night for those of the snp. now, i think while we there's a temptation to focus on that huge drop from four to 8 to 10, a potential of ten seats, let's just say, we also need to , you just say, we also need to, you know, note that labour is expected to claw back, you know, several, perhaps dozen up here north of the border after in 2019. of course, they just won one seat and that was edinburgh south, with, the edinburgh south mp, ian murray. now, he was later joined, of course, by the rutherglen mp michael shanks. but even that to, to who knows how many. it must be understandable that a lot of those seats that are paying into that, that landslide for labour are going to come up north of the border. unclear yet
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obviously, who is going to win where however, you know, the first seats up here in scotland did expected to declare just after midnight and then here in glasgow around about between 245 and 345, we will get a picture of what that central belt looks like. and of course, that's where the huge mass of the scottish population resides. so quite an exciting night, not least because we were told just before we came on air that three votes already are being investigated by the police, so quite, quite an exciting start to a long evening . yeah, there to a long evening. yeah, there we go . we go. >> lovely. tony, thank you very much indeed, look, we want to talk about the whole reform issue, matt goodwin's here. matt. i mean, when you when we look at what seems to be this huge surge in support for reform , huge surge in support for reform, i mean, surge from zero from last time round, but they're doing remarkably well in the in
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the result. we've seen so far. and in the exit poll which puts them on 13 seats. are we going to see that are we likely to see that reflected across the country. so i think if you look at the numbers, what's likely is we're going to see nigel farage and reform probably get somewhere in the 17 to 19% range nationally, which is actually what the last gb news people poll had them on, which was just just a point above that. >> what we're also seeing in sunderland, a real world result that we've got, remember, not the exit poll, 29% second ahead of the conservatives. here's what's happening . nigel farage what's happening. nigel farage is becoming the main beneficiary of the post brexit realignment, which the conservatives messed up. he is inheriting a lot of the trends that were happening through the rise of ukip, brexit, the brexit party, boris johnson's realignment . that's johnson's realignment. that's why he's finding it so easy in these labour areas to just pick up where those parties left off. it also tells us something else farage is not just hitting the conservatives in the marginal
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seats, he's opening up that second flank in labour heartland. so what he's going to say, i suspect tomorrow morning will be something like, i'm not just here for former conservatives. i'm now the main opposition across the red wall. i am the main opposition in places like wales, in places like the midlands, because 29% for a new small, untested party in a seat like sunderland, that's a big deal. gloria. >> does that worry you, >> does that worry you, >> well, if you combine the two right wing parties, i know some people will contest whether reform are right wing or not. if you combine both their vote shares, bridget phillipson still got more than both of the right wing parties put together. but of course it is one to watch. but i will say this, which i think can change the dynamics of the labour party and how this new government will govern, and thatis new government will govern, and that is those red wall voices, the non—metropolitan working class community voices have been absent from the labour party.
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>> we've just got a bit of breaking news glory because labour have held blyth and ashington, so that's ian lavery seat. there was a boundary change because it was blyth valley as it was previously constituted, which seemed to indicate the fall of the red wall to boris johnson back in 2019. yeah that's a good hold isn't it. >> but ian lavery just but again i'll tell you what. >> reform have come second. yeah. >> no i think they'll come second in all the heartland seats. >> just, just briefly come in on this again. second in another labour held seat . what you are labour held seat. what you are seeing again is the emergence of a much broader coalition for nigel farage than many people in westminster are prepared to admit. a lot of these voters , admit. a lot of these voters, remember, will be former labour voters, former conservative voters. there'll be brexit voters, they'll be working class voters, they'll be working class voters, there'll be non—graduates and look for laboun non—graduates and look for labour. this is there's a big message here. who's going to be holding them to account on legal immigration, illegal immigration, illegal immigration, woke ideology. echr. focusing too much on places like london and but but,
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mark, this is this is my point. >> this is my point. mark, this is this is my point. >> this is my point . the makeup >> this is my point. the makeup of the parliamentary labour party, which has been dominated by the big cities and, you know , by the big cities and, you know, i'm going to concede it has if it's a balance, it has tipped, the scales have tipped too far in a metropolitan, side that's going to rebalance. and i think you'll see a changed labour party who'll be all too aware that these seats are vulnerable to reform and will act on that. >> but there's another message for the conservatives here to which brandon may want to reflect in, which is, look, if the conservatives now, after rishi sunak leaves, if they elect a one nation liberal leader who says, you know what the future is going back to the liberals in the centre, farage on these kind of numbers he's going to exploit. that would be the biggest open goal going. >> brandon, before you answer, i'm just going to introduce both of you. so brandon lewis, former tory party chairman, and michaela maurizio, who is from techni, the polling company. and you can perhaps riff on what matt goodwin said there. first of all, just about this reform. yes, surge , because they're
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yes, surge, because they're coming second now in two red wall seats. what should we extrapolate from that? >> well, looking at the exit polls , two, it seems clear that, polls, two, it seems clear that, i think tories exit poll are a bit overestimated because reform uk is picking up votes from tories and from undecided voters, but above all, from the tories votes. >> so, i think perhaps we will see some changes when the real votes in constituencies from the constituency comes. and the fact is that we have been analysing and playing with numbers regarding, where the labour, for example, picked up more votes for example, young people between 18 and 34 have voted massively for labour, while in 2019 it was completely the opposite. between labour and conservatives. only two points in this age category, now 34%
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gap between labour and conservative voters . so tories conservative voters. so tories have lost completely votes in young people age classes and in the lower social classes . the lower social classes. >> and that's a problem on the right, isn't it? because nigel farage, he's got all of these social media followers, he's got this massive sort of reach on tiktok and other platforms. i mean, i know because of my own children and their friends, they're sort of quite interested and impressed by and find the fame of nigel farage quite enticing at the moment. this idea of being a young tory seems to be an oxymoron, doesn't it? >> yes. and look, one of the things i've made the case for, for some time is we need to be doing things that appeal to young people, making sure they can have a home and a chance to own their own home. and we've shied away from that recently. but look, i think matt's right. and one of the things i think is interesting, matt and i, we were talking earlier on, we spoke about this many years ago when i was chairman, and matt, quite rightly about them, was talking about this journey of travel. and if i look at my own x constituency, if i look there,
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there are people who certainly voted labour before 2010 and probably in 2010, they then went to ukip, maybe the brexit party, and in 2019 my big majority was because with brexit, corbyn and boris, the three things coming together as a dynamic, they voted for us. there's a big chunk of those who are now going to be tempted by reform. we're going to see that, i think, in seats across the country, that kind of dynamic exactly as matt has outlined. and that is something that's been worrying me all week when i've been looking at these numbers. if thatis looking at these numbers. if that is going to happen across those red wall seats, it's going to be quite shocking night. >> just, just before you jump in, gloria, let's have a look at the graphic for that one. that just sort of makes it a bit clearer as to exactly where everything is falling. so labour holding that seat, reform coming second, conservatives third, lib dems fourth, a distant fourth. what what strikes me is that reform in terms of percentage, reform in terms of percentage, reform has 28, but it's twice the conservative vote share it shows as well. >> they're taking votes from
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both of the big two parties. and for the conservative leadership election that will follow this general election, there's an enormous implication there , too, enormous implication there, too, because they're going to have to because they're going to have to be very sensitive to appealing to those reform voters, and that's going to mean, i suspect, things like leaving echr tougher position on migration , taking on position on migration, taking on some of the woke ideology in our institutions because farage he's got the biggest opening he's ever had in british politics right now, it's bigger than the brexit. >> but but with that comes challenges. so, you know, it's very easy to say, would you like your life to be better . do you your life to be better. do you think those two are rubbish now? i think probably a majority of people would say yes to that. so you can sort of feed off that. but you know , nigel, he was a but you know, nigel, he was a fantastic colleague actually. but i have literally during this campaign, when the tories announced that they were going to bring back national service, he came out and said, that's an absolutely ridiculous idea. it's bananas. now, i remember him on his show, like last year, saying we should bring back national service as a country. those
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sorts of different , sorts of different, contradictory positions are going to actually be scrutinised by the media, and that's good. >> it's contradictory to labour, gloria, if he holds labour's feet to the flames along with this tv station. and i mean, i just think we're getting a bit carried. >> i think we're getting a bit carried away . carried away. >> i think we're getting a bit carried away. >> and then i'm going to go to the other thing. >> i think he's absolutely right. point you make is if you want to appeal to a new generation of voters, you've got to also think about where do they get their information. and it's on social and digital media. it's not the legacy press. and that's how all parties are going to have to be more conscious of in the future. >> michaela, a quick point and i think also that there are different reasons because voters have voted labour and because voters are voting reform uk. >> i mean, there are different reasons because we are talking about the right part of the lectures and you know, it's challenging because is this a vote of protest? because they were so unhappy with the conservatives and with the tories, and they want to punish them in some way or this is the
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beginning of a new future. it's something like a wave we have seen in italy with the five star movements, when they exploded to 30% because people were so angry with all the political parties until i think the coming weeks and the coming days will be challenging, both for the future of the tories but also for the future of reform uk. okay okay. >> right. thanks all. just know there's lots to say , but we'll there's lots to say, but we'll come back to you, i promise you. in the meantime, i just want to head to belfast, our correspondent dougie beattie is there for us. keeping up, keeping us up to date with all the camps from northern ireland. 18, i think. dougie, the polling stations across the 18 seats indeedis stations across the 18 seats indeed is here in northern ireland. >> and it's actually becoming quite a good scrap out of those 18 seats. there's four of them that could go either way. and three of those four are dup sitting mps. of course, one of
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those is sir jeffrey donaldson's seat. he was the former leader of the democratic unionist party . of the democratic unionist party. and, gavin robinson, who is in east belfast now, the leader of the dup. his seat is quite tight as well. he's taking on naomi long out of the alliance party and the tuv that's linked to reform decided to stand in those constituencies and the fear is that they have split the unionist vote in both communities . so you could see communities. so you could see the alliance party coming through that door. other seats to watch here is, north down, captain tim collins is standing there for the ulster unionist party against the sitting mp stephen farry. but my money would be on alex easton. he's an independent ex dup member coming through the middle. and that is what this election in northern ireland really is about now is about who's splitting the vote
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and who's coming through the middle with those votes being split, south down another seat, that's a sinn fein seat. the sdlp looks to have made massive progress in there, but overall in northern ireland, the all day i've been going around the polling stations having a look and to be honest i would be surprised if the votes are up at all because there was very little people at half, seven to that, half, eight, 9:00, going to the polling stations this morning. so that'll be interesting to see how that turns out. the jeffrey donaldson case that was in court yesterday. a lot of unionists not very happy with that. that might backfire on the dup and the immigration question in the repubuc the immigration question in the republic of ireland. of course, sinn fein took an electoral hit there of about 16 points. it'll be interesting to see. does that transfer into northern ireland? so as the night goes on, i'll be watching for seats very carefully to see exactly where they will go. >> all right .
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they will go. >> all right. thank you very much indeed, doug. dougie. in northern ireland for bringing us up to date with what's happening there. we're going to cross to surrey now, where chancellor jeremy hunt is standing in the newly formed godalming and ash constituency. but has the liberal democrats breathing down his neck. adam cherry is there. adam, what's the atmosphere like? a bit tense. i'd imagine. >> oh, very much so, yeah. >> oh, very much so, yeah. >> ballots are flying in now and it's going to be an historic night here because it looks if this exit poll projection is correct , that the incumbent correct, that the incumbent chancellor, jeremy hunt, has an 81% chance of losing his seat tonight to the liberal democrats. >> he has been an mp under previous boundaries. >> he's been an mp here since 2005. >> but the blue wall is finally coming crashing down here, >> he had an 8000 vote majority in 2019, 53% of the vote. >> and yet here we are. >> and yet here we are. >> and yet here we are. >> and the mood, as you say it is tense. a shockwave throughout the room when the exit poll dropped, the labour party also grinning behind me, just in the corner when it when it arrived,
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as i say, an historic night. we won't expect the we don't expect to have the count until about 330 in the morning, so we still have some time , but a very, very have some time, but a very, very significant result, >> lovely. adam, thanks very much indeed. i mean, it's going to be fascinating to watch what happensin to be fascinating to watch what happens in godalming and ash because if the chancellor brandon loses his seat, i think that's the first time in history that's the first time in history that a sitting chancellor has lost his seat, isn't it? i mean, it's but it's pressure from the other side . other side. >> yeah. and i think if you look in that doughnut around london we've been seeing for the last with the polls over the last couple of days, there is a very real risk to the conservatives from the liberal democrats. one of the challenges for our party, i think, has been how you balance that challenge from the liberal democrats in that kind of shire area, and then from reform in the red wall kind of seats, seats like my old constituency . there are two very constituency. there are two very different battles and trying to do both of them at the same time, i think is part of the challenge we've had as a party. >> what are you hearing about your old seat of great yarmouth?
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>> i think i think so. look, one of the things i've been hearing all through the day is some real concern about whether people who are, as i say early on in 2019, voted for us and probably in 17, gradually been on that journey, have gone to reform rather than going back to labour, have gone to reform. and if they do that uniform across my constituency, then they may not. they could come second in lots of divisions but actually win the seat. and i think there is a real concern that that could be happening, but we won't have the result for great yarmouth for another few hours yet. >> if you look back at recent history in the tory party, and gloria has made the point about five prime ministers in as many years, and all the rest of it, it's there one moment that you can pinpoint where things all went so wrong that they've now ended with this exit poll result tonight . was it the ousting of tonight. was it the ousting of bofis tonight. was it the ousting of boris johnson? was it liz truss and kwasi kwartengs disastrous mini—budget? was it the failure to stop the boats? what do you think? >> look, i think i'll give you a direct answer. but first of all, i think there is a mixture of things that if you look back
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from 2016 onwards, government was focused on brexit. then on covid, on ukraine. so there's a lot of different things, but i do think if you're looking for that one moment where the polls changed dramatically and never came back, it's when a group of mps decided to override the mandate that boris johnson was given by the public, not just our members overwhelmingly, but the british public. and then a few weeks later, we did it again when our members chose liz truss. but particularly, i think frank luntz made this point on gb news some time ago. i think he's right. when the british pubuc he's right. when the british public give someone a mandate and a small group of people effectively say, we've got a better idea, i think that's a problem. and i think we saw that with margaret thatcher and we're suffering it now from the what we've done with boris. >> i mean, that fairly lays the blame at rishi sunak feet, doesn't it? well look, there's a whole group of us as mps who have served in these governments, who have been part of the government. >> i think james made that point very well earlier on. but i think if you're looking back with hindsight, if the 14 million people gave somebody a mandate to do a job and then as mps, we said, no, we've changed them. we don't we don't agree with you. we're doing something different. that's a difficult
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place to recover from. >> one thing i would say, though, about that is if you you know, i surveyed 3000 reform voters and you say, why are you voting reform top two issues stop the small boats , lower stop the small boats, lower legal migration. i think the anger about how boris johnson and others were treated as part of it, but the reality is the conservatives liberalised immigration when they promised the country they would lower the overall numbers. and that is why i think what's happening out there tonight is a punishment election. lots of conservatives are saying you did the opposite of what you promised the country. you sent net migration to 700,000, lost control of the borders and then refused to leave the european convention on human rights, which would have allowed to us control. >> i don't believe that this election is solely about immigration people. it is people are really hurting. but but but to go to brandon's point, when you end a parliament with living standards lower than they were at the beginning of this parliament, that is the first time that's ever happened in history. of course, that's pain for people. it's real, everyday
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pain. it doesn't happen. it's never happened before. so perhaps it's not a moment. it's just that people have been hurting financially. i don't deny for many years i deny that. >> but for reform voters it is about immigration. >> nicola, i agree with all the things that have been said because, of course it's a mixture of reasons why, the disaffection to a specific party race. but but, it's not only about immigration and, but it's about immigration and, but it's about a daily life of people. we have polled many times topics and things that were hurting people. and, you know, the inflation raising so high, rising so high, the cost of living crisis, covid pandemic that created so many problems and uncertainties with changing, of course, different mps, you know, everything was , the fear know, everything was, the fear of losing their job. so people,
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of losing theirjob. so people, perhaps, were thinking that the tories at the moment in the last. yes. after boris johnson had gone, were not feeling safe in some way. >> why don't we have a conversation in just a moment about the farage versus johnson factor and who can unite the right. but i think we've got we've got an election alert, steve. >> oh, we have got an election alert sunderland central and now of course, sunderland has lost its crown. it's not been the first one to declare. but anyway, sunderland central, we are expecting that result imminently. and of course we'll bnng imminently. and of course we'll bring you that as it happens. >> they've lost out haven't they . >> they've lost out haven't they. on the count front to blythe because they've managed to beat them to it. >> they did, they did. >> they did, they did. >> all right. let's crunch the numbers we've got so far, let's head to the data centre. and tom. >> that's right . yes. while we >> that's right. yes. while we do, feel free to jump away from
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us as soon as we get that sunderland central result coming in. but of course, we've got two results in the north east, a very blank map apart from these two splodges of red, meaning currently the house of commons is 100% labour seats, but let's have a look at bridget phillipson here. houghton and sunderland south martin baxter this was an interesting result because it was different from what the exit poll projected a little bit. >> that's right, tom, that on the whole labour did slightly better than expected relative to the exit poll and the conservatives slightly worse by about 4. so if, but that's just one seat and then if we go to the, the next seat that we got results for blyth in ashington, that was actually almost bang on the exit poll. >> right. >> right. >> so for conservative, labour and reform. so interestingly that reform number in blyth is very much in line with the exit poll. and that suggests that the exit poll might be right on reform. >> that's very interesting. so a very real vote that we're seeing, particularly in the nonh seeing, particularly in the north east for reform. but a bit
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of variation in these two seats in terms of this one, labour doing a bit better than expected , doing a bit better than expected, this labour doing exactly the same. >> that's right. but you don't want to read too much just into one seat, because there's a bit of natural variation between the seats. so it's, we can't it's still early days as, as the slogan says. >> and it does seem to be the case that generally when we get more and more seats in, when we get more real world data, we keep refining the exit poll. i remember back to 2015 when the exit poll initially came out. david cameron didn't have a majority. by the end of the night, he did have a majority . yes. >> so we'll be, refining and evolving the seat prediction and the equivalent vote share, the national vote share as results come in. so obviously the exit poll is a pretty good guide for what's going to happen. but it's not it's not usually exact to every seat. so we'll be fine tuning it as the results come in. >> now of course we've been looking at some of the other big beasts implied who may lose their seats under this exit poll. you've been looking down in the in the southeast at jeremy hunt's constituency.
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>> yes. as we mentioned earlier, godalming and ash. if the exit poll is right, godalming and ash. if the exit poll is right , then the poll is right, then the chancellor of the exchequer is in trouble in his own constituency . the lib dems are constituency. the lib dems are going to mount a strong challenge. there again, if the exit poll is right and that he could he could be in. yeah, it could he could be in. yeah, it could be in danger of the liberal democrats taking a seat. but we'll have to see as well. >> we'd be looking at that data when it comes in. for now, back to you. >> lovely. tom, thank you very much indeed . fascinating. as we much indeed. fascinating. as we wait for sunderland central, that result to come through, shall i just give you some background on some of central? >> just as we prepare. so, julie elliott, the labour candidate there, won the seat at the last election with a majority of just 2900. so, again, this will be an interesting one because the conservatives did come in second place last time down this time. >> but yes. so there's a new candidate. >> and the brexit party as it was, came in third place. so if we again see that shift between conservatives and reform, we see
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reform come second again in a seat associated with being red wall and brexiteer. do you know what? >> i just think the nature of our politics might be changing. every party has an opposition, every government has an opposition. now, traditionally it's been the conservative party and i think in towns the opposition to the labour party will be reform. and in cities it might be the greens or liberal democrats, while that while that party sorts itself out. so of course in a democracy you always have , you know, a political have, you know, a political opponent that comes second. and i just think the tories are going to have a little break from being that it's deeper than that, because it's not just an opposition party being replaced, it's what kind of conservatism are people asking for. >> that's the point. so it's about the philosophical civil war that's about to unfold on the right of british politics. people are saying they don't want this liberal urban metropolitan conservatism anymore. they don't want this kind of brand of conservative politics. they want the farage brand of conservative politics. >> right. well, i'll tell you what. there's some gear changes in tonight's show, matt. and this is one of them, because
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from that, and as we wait for sunderland central, we're going to take you to essex. patrick christys is there. where will shawn seesahai has just been performing . performing. >> yeah. not bad. thank you. well hello everybody and welcome back to the gb news election watch party. >> how are we all doing this evening? fantastic. yes lovely stuff. so we've just had a little bit of cher, as michelle was also saying. i wonder whether we're not the conservatives wish they could turn back time. people have now had their burgers and their chips and all of that stuff, but seats are starting to be declared and we have had the exit poll result in, and i'd just like to ask you to a couple of quick questions, if that's all right. what's your name? >> heather . >> heather. >> heather. >> in essex. okay. all right. so what do you make of what you've seen so far in terms of the exit poll? reform coming second as well in sunderland. how do you feel the evening's going, >> i think it's panned out our expected, but it's really good that reform are getting so many good votes,
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>> and that they come second because that's what a lot of people were predicting . people were predicting. >> what can i ask you, sir? what are your thoughts when it comes to sir keir starmer, >> i don't think you can trust him. i think he's going to tax the death out of us. i think he's going to go for people's properties, >> savings . >> savings. >> savings. >> and i don't think he's going to build an economy. >> the green economy does not give jobs. >> europe's turned against the green economy. >> and we're going to take the green economy up. >> is that something that bothers you? because quite a bit of europe appears to be going to the right. so especially when it comes to things like illegal immigration, like you suggested there, maybe when it comes to certain climate policies as well, it's almost like britain might be an outlier for the next few years if this exit poll is correct. >> yeah. i think we will be i think we're going to end up sort of going backwards if we take up certain policies. >> i think the lights could go out, >> we haven't had growth in this country for 14 years, so i don't see how keir starmer is going to create growth. he hasn't talked about how you create growth. >> the way you create growth is to reduce taxation and create entrepreneurs. >> and you do that by
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incentivising businesses. and no one's talked about that through the whole campaign. okay. >> all right. well, what i'm going to ask now is if this wonderful cameraman here can just follow me around the room a little bit. i'm just going to ask people, just the people in this room feel as though you can trust keir starmer . no, no. trust keir starmer. no, no. okay. now, why is it in particular, i wonder? i'm going to have to pick a victim at random here. so follow me through. follow me through. who's going to get it? you. there you go. hello hello. do you trust keir starmer? >> no. >> [10. >> no. >> not really. any particular reason why? why not? you were quite vocal about it. you've got a mouthful of chicken. chicken burger here. so why don't you trust him, or do you? he's a pervert. okay all right, well, there we go. that's live television for you, everybody. so do you trust keir starmer? >> not in the slightest. no, no, we went into this election , right? >> hoping for something better for our kids. we all want to deliver something better for our kids. >> keir is not that man. >> keir is not that man. >> keir is going to demolish the
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world for our kids. >> all right. okay. now there was a chap here who voted labour come here. so, sir, sir, there was a couple of strong views there about your mate keir starmer . there about your mate keir starmer. right. your best pal. you know him personally, don't you? now i'm going to have to sit down for this one. so why do you think that everyone else in this room should trust your mate, sir keir starmer ? he's got mate, sir keir starmer? he's got a mouthful of food and it's silence. deafening silence for sir keir here. come on. >> well, why not? >> well, why not? >> it's not the best you've got. yeah, well , okay. yeah, well, okay. >> who can 100% trust any politician? >> okay. all right . okay. so, so >> okay. all right. okay. so, so you're basing it off the backdrop of the fact that you think they're all completely and utterly untrustworthy? no, no, i think we've been tainted by what's gone on, particularly in the last 6 or 7 years. >> okay . and i think everyone's >> okay. and i think everyone's formed an opinion of based upon what we've had in that time. >> okay. all right. so look, a mixed range of views here. it's fair to say back to you in the studio where the results are
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coming in. i hear it now, thick and fast. >> you're getting indigestion now , patrick. now, patrick. >> thank you very much indeed. it's always a key message . don't it's always a key message. don't interview someone. mid sausage roll. >> no, never. i tell you what. >> no, never. i tell you what. >> i could murder a sausage roll right now. if anyone has one. >> right. we've got seconds in this hour. brandon lewis, geoff hoon, gloria de piero james heappey, all here at. geoff, where are you? you're here. >> you're still here. could you swap sides a minute ago, >> i mean, what do you make of what we're seeing so far on this idea that reform is actually a very strong second in the incredible situation and not one that i would have easily anticipated because it does mean in those two seats, and we've only had these two results in effect , reform have become the effect, reform have become the party of opposition, which is what nigel farage has been saying, whether he's got seats in the house of commons to be able to deliver on that remains to be seen . to be seen. >> but little doubt that from nowhere to score 11,000 votes is quite an achievement,
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>> it's just quite something. >> it's just quite something. >> what's your reaction? i mean, we had a conversation earlier , we had a conversation earlier, didn't we, about where the conservative party goes from here and you're saying that it needs to remain rather centrist as opposed to lurching to the right, but at the same time , right, but at the same time, clearly the thing about populism is it is quite popular, isn't it? >> yeah. >> yeah. but >> yeah. but i >> yeah. but i mean, you all very much. we're going to chat a lot more in the next few minutes, but you are watching gb news on this election night. it's midnight.
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>> live across the united kingdom. this is gb news vote 2024. the people decide . 2024. the people decide. >> we're live across the united kingdom. this is gb news, britain's election channel. i'm camilla tominey, i'm stephen dixon. >> we're two hours into our 2024 election coverage. and this is what our political editor, christopher hope, has described. the exit poll as the main text on my phone from tory mps, saying that big heads are rolling of the biggest political earthquake, maybe a tsunami, as someone said, since labour's win in 1997, the exit poll has predicted the following. >> labour to win 410 seats and the conservatives to win 131, leaving labour with a 170 seat majority. the lib dems are projected to win 61 seats reform on 13 seats, more than was
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anticipated, and the snp in scotland reduced to just ten seats. >> well, only a handful of seats have been called so far. first was bridget phillipson, the labour party in houghton and sunderland south. >> i am so proud to be part of a party which has tonight not just won the trust of people here in houghton and sunderland south, but of the people across britain, and this was deputy leader of the labour party, angela rayner, earlier this evening. >> well , the exit poll is >> well, the exit poll is incredibly encouraging and it shows the tremendous amount of work that keir starmer has done in transforming the labour party and we've also had live reaction from our watch party of course. >> so we're going to be heading over to essex for the very latest with patrick and michelle right through the early hours of the morning. >> this is gb news britain's
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election . channel. right. shall election. channel. right. shall we have a little chat about the farage factor versus the johnson factor? i bring them both up because we've been talking haven't we, about reform coming second in the seats that we have heard announced so far. and there's also a discussion underway about who unites the right. what i found interesting from the week is when boris johnson did turn up at that last rally hosted by rishi sunak and his old adversary michael gove was also there as he runs off from surrey heath into a new future away from politics. that actually, although the room was very, very energised by boris johnson's presence, he hasn't got a following, has he? like donald trump in america, there aren't people taking to the streets calling for boris to be brought back, and therefore it seems that actually nigel farage is becoming the face of the right. this sinner dan azeez site, oh. hang on a minute. we've got the sunderland. >> yes, we are .
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>> yes, we are. >> malcolm atkinson, 16,852. chris eynon 10,779. rachel sara featherstone . 2993. nigel dean featherstone. 2993. nigel dean hodgson 3602. greg peacock 5731. the number of rejected ballot papers was 99. the turnout is 52.6% and that lewis malcolm atkinson has been duly elected to serve as member for the said constituency .
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constituency. i would like to invite the elected candidate to say a few words . thank elected candidate to say a few words. thank . words. thank. >> it is the honour of my life to be elected by the people of sunderland central to represent them and the city that i love. thank you for placing your trust in me . thank you, returning in me. thank you, returning officer counting staff and the police for your diligence today and the crucial work you do in ensuring our democracy operates transparently and safely . i want transparently and safely. i want to thank my fellow candidates . to thank my fellow candidates. in democracy, as in daily life, having a diversity of views and experiences is a healthy thing . experiences is a healthy thing. our city's motto is nil desperandum do not despair, but that has been severely tested by
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14 years of tory government, which have made the people and services of sunderland poorer. many of the stories on the doorstep i've heard have been desperately sad. a pensioner who told me she skips a meal a day told me she skips a meal a day to make ends meet, a parent living with toothache because they no longer have an nhs dentist and they can't afford to go private sunderland and britain deserves so much better . britain deserves so much better. ihave britain deserves so much better. i have also heard despair about whether change is in fact possible. if things are so broken that no election or government can make any difference anymore . i wouldn't difference anymore. i wouldn't be here today if i didn't believe an incoming labour
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government can deliver the change we have promised . having change we have promised. having seen the exit polls, i am hopeful that we get the labour government that this city needs a government in the service of working people that stands for economic stability and national security . i know that having security. i know that having elected me the people of sunderland central now expect me to work my socks off for them. thatis to work my socks off for them. that is what i will do as an active, visible community mp. i will represent all of the people, whether you voted for me or not. i will represent each and every community. while the populist right may choose to stoke division and pretend there are simple solutions to complex problems, i am proud that a changed labour party is focused on working together to rebuild our city and our country for all
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we do not have to choose between economic growth and a fairer society . i will not, we do not society. i will not, we do not have to choose between our proud history and our bright future. i will champion both. we do not have to choose between which of the different communities of sunderland to serve . i will sunderland to serve. i will serve them . all. i believe in serve them. all. i believe in sunderland as an inclusive city that looks to the future where our creativity, passion and hard work combined so that everyone prospers, feel safe and can live the life they choose. what an incredibly bright future we can have together here. i want to thank my agent, michael, and the
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whole labour campaign team who have been incredible in the whirlwind five weeks since i was selected as a candidate . i want selected as a candidate. i want to pay tribute to julie elliott, my predecessor, who served sunderland central with commitment and who has been a huge support to many across the city and labour movement, including myself . what underpins including myself. what underpins my politics are the values of community, decency and hard work. the two people who taught me those values are here tonight . me those values are here tonight. mum and dad, thank you for everything . while it is a huge everything. while it is a huge honour to be elected, i want to be clear that i do not regard this itself as an achievement. >> all right, let's let's leave lewis . lewis. >> atkinson.
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>> atkinson. >> there he is, the new labour mp for sunderland central. it's a labour hold but he's a new member of parliament. >> he results then it's 16,852 votes for labour. but that is a o% votes for labour. but that is a 0% change in the in the vote share . reform uk chris anyon share. reform uk chris anyon second 10,779 with 27% of the share. greg peacock for the conservatives 5731 14.3. they're down 21.1. >> the interesting thing about this is that was a seat where the brexit party did run in 2019, and the brexit party candidate then got 5000. so they've doubled their share . if they've doubled their share. if you can make the point that the brexit party has become reform and obe, 15, that haemorrhaging of the conservative vote there i mean came second last time round with 15,000, but in fact now down to 5000. so again, that pattern seems to be being
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reciprocated across the red wall. gents, this idea of reform beating the conservatives into third place. >> let's talk to steve reid, labour's candidate for streatham and croydon north, who joins us from westminster. to good see you this morning, i tell you what, it's interesting about this. i mean, it's no it is no surprise that labour has held this seat, but it is perhaps a worthy question to say, well , worthy question to say, well, why haven't labour increased the share of the vote on this at all? >> well, you've just been talking about an exit poll that predicts the labour landslide across the whole country. we've had three results so far. you know, the exit poll is a poll. these are actual results. and all of them have shown solid labour majorities. now from the information we've got so far, labouris information we've got so far, labour is on its way into power andifs labour is on its way into power and it's doing that on less than five years after we got our worst election result for 85 years. the reason that's happening is because keir starmer has changed the labour
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party from top to bottom. it's unrecognisable from what it used to be before. so people are coming across to labour and voting for labour to form a government right across the country. you're going to get variation in from one seat to another, depending on local factors . but the story we're factors. but the story we're seeing in the three results so far and the exit poll is people are backing a changed labour party that five years ago, none of us would have believed or could be possible. >> so steve, that's completely right. nobody for a minute is denigrating the fact that labour do appear to be on course for a landslide victory, but at the same time, it seems as if labour's vote share, at least in some of the seats that have already been called, has stalled and overall, the picture might be that the vote share goes down. so we could have a prospect of this large labour majority on the back of a smaller vote share for keir starmer than jeremy corbyn won in either 2019 or 2017. >> i don't think labour's vote share is going to go down, but in any case, what labour was doing in this election was
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trying to win enough parliamentary seats to form a government, because under our parliamentary system that is how you win a general election. so no apologies for trying to get a majority in the house of commons because that's how you form a government and that's how you then bring the change to the people in this country want to see. but if you're saying to me of your exit poll is right and it is only a poll, i'm not saying it is right yet, but it's if it if it is anything like right, then seats up and down this country will flip from conservative to labour. and they're doing that because people are putting their faith in this changed labour party to form a government. having seen the devastation caused by 14 years of the conservatives, that's only happening because of how keir has changed the labour party . so how keir has changed the labour party. so you're how keir has changed the labour party . so you're looking at party. so you're looking at particular seats and you're seeing a certain result in that seat. but for labour to win across the country in the way that the exit poll implies requires conservative voters in those seats to be switching to labourin those seats to be switching to labour in order to propel laboun labour in order to propel labour, to be able to take those individual constituencies . individual constituencies. >> yes. but what? but i mean,
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the point is, with all of this, what we are seeing is no enthusiasm for labour. there's certainly the split to the right is causing a lot of problems, but where's the enthusiasm for labour if your vote share isn't increasing the enthusiasm for labouris increasing the enthusiasm for labour is pretty evident from the fact if your exit poll is right, we're going from our worst result for 85 years, and the possible end of the labour party into power. >> now, i don't know what the end result is going to be. there's obviously a lot of marginal seats in that. we've we've only got a few hours to wait now and we'll be seeing results, including mine, a two, three, 4:00 in the in the morning. but you don't get a reversal from your worst result for 85 years to going into power without some degree of enthusiasm on the part of the electorate. i think there is. i think maybe what you're picking up is there is a lot a loss of faith in politics generally because of what the conservatives have done. and sadly, that affects all politicians. but when you've got a party that's given us, what is
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it? five prime ministers and seven chancellors of the exchequer since 2017, they broke their own lockdown rules and partied in downing street, then lied about it. they crashed the economy. we've got the longest nhs waiting lists in the history of the. then. of course, people are going to lose faith in politics because of what the conservatives have done . but conservatives have done. but despite that, they're coming out in seat after seat if the exit poll is to be believed and switching to the labour party because of how keir starmer has changed it and because they have got faith in him and the labour party as it is today to start making that long journey from the terrible inheritance that any new incoming government would get to starting to rebuild this country. and that is the faith that people are putting in the labour party tonight. >> steve, does it worry you that nigel farage is having this resurgence and is positioning himself as the unofficial opposition ? okay, reform might opposition? okay, reform might not get as many seats in the house of commons as the liberal democrats, but at the same time, he's going to be a thorn in sir keir starmer's side as prime
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minister isn't he? >> i don't think he is having a resurgence to be honest, and there seems to be a bit of a battle between the conservatives and reform as to who comes second, third or fourth in these different seats. what matters is who comes first in those seats. and so far it looks like that's labour now. i mean , even in the labour now. i mean, even in the exit poll, i think the reform is still projected to come fifth. that that is not a surge, what's the story of tonight is not what's going on with reform . what's going on with reform. it's what's going on with labour and how people who only five years ago couldn't vote for the labour party today look like they may be about to put labour into power. that is the story of tonight. all right. >> okay, steve reed, thank you very much indeed forjoining us this evening or indeed in the early hours of this morning. breaking news. now, the former justice secretary, sir robert buckland, has lost his seat in swindon south. that seat has gone to labour, we believe, with a 9000 majority. will be more on that in a moment. but that was one of those seats, brandon,
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that would be indicative of a tory collapse and indeed a labour surge. >> yes. it's one of those key seats that we won in 2010 that that actually signifies that shift back to pre 2010. and i think one of the worrying things that the issues for our party will be as, as was outlined with the early results is with reform coming second and us moving into third place. and that kind of shift and i could hear part of what steve was saying at that point. it's not conservative voters moving to labour, it's conservative voters moving to reform and probably some labour votes as well, hence this vote share issue. but that is going to be a real challenge for our party in terms of what we do next and how we assess the fallout from what is going to be a devastating night for us. >> james, a good colleague to lose. i mean, robert buckland, a campaigning mp, somebody who also in his legal capacity, fought to overturn a number of different miscarriages of justice for on behalf of his own constituents and has lost badly. >> yeah . look, there's going to >> yeah. look, there's going to be a lot of really good people who have contributed enormously to our public life, who are
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going to lose their seats tonight, and that's, that's really sad. i know swindon's the first result we've seen not from the north—east i'm hoping it might be the first seat where we've at least managed to come second. so, you know, because this is a different sort of seat, isn't it? >> so this is a sort of seat that parties fight over and which determine which party is in government. so whoever holds swindon south forms the party of government, and it moves according to who forms that government. but yes , i was there government. but yes, i was there today, actually. and, i think you are right that in these normal traditional key seats , normal traditional key seats, the tories will be second. >> and more and more this is looking like 1997, because these are the kind of seats we won in 1997. we lost 200 seats between 1997. we lost 200 seats between 1997 and 2019, and we're winning them back. and this is precisely them back. and this is precisely the kind of seat that i would expect labour to win. >> and i don't think we should. and we've also shouldn't underestimate the scale of the impact of a party that effectively didn't exist just
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weeks ago and really only got invigorated when farage himself said he was going to stand to make that kind of an impact in putting aside what seats they were in. but in terms of vote share in these seats already, that's quite a that's a message to all political parties about how they deliver and how they interact with the public. >> i think i'm sorry, i know i need to i need to jump in because we've got to make way for our political editor, christopher hope, who's in camden in north london for the holborn and saint pancras count, of course, where sir keir starmer is a candidate. and what do you make? chris, of what we've seen so far. i mean, look, labour gaining one seat, holding three others. but it's the reform vote which, which is actually surpassing expectations . actually surpassing expectations. really. that's that's right stephen. >> those those second places for reform are extraordinary . 27% of reform are extraordinary. 27% of the vote there in blythe. i'm talking to senior figures. in the party and they're making clear they think they've won at least three mps and as many as
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16 mp5. least three mps and as many as 16 mps. tonight. the figure of 13 in the exit poll is based on a probability of 20 to 30, because there's no actual historic data about this party. it's only four years, five, just four years old. i think that the people who work out the exit poll data have to make quite a big, almost a guesstimate on the numbers of mps that might get. so the range we're looking at for reform uk is as low as 30, as low as three mps, but no lower and as high as 16 mps. and of course, the official figure is 13. i think that's fascinating, looking at there at swindon, that's the first time we see the tories lose a seat to laboun we see the tories lose a seat to labour, tory second place reform in third place. but reform surge is exactly what nigel farage forecast yesterday in that final interview with gb news with me for gb news, he thought 6 million votes and if they get that many votes and end up with as few as, you know, a dozen or so mps, it will really fuel this
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idea that millions of people have been disenfranchised by a voting system and just finally, i'm watching quite closely basildon and billericay, richard holden, there is a tory party chairman. he came down from a seat in the north near durham to get that seat. he was the only, candidate to get that seat on a short list of one, because of the nearness to the election, he might have lost that seat, is what i'm hearing. if that happens, that will be the big moment of the first hours of this, of this election. if richard holden, the party chairman , cannot win in basildon chairman, cannot win in basildon and billericay, but that that result will be within the hour on gb news >> okay, chris, thanks very much indeed. >> all right. we're going to go back to essex now and catch up with the gb news watch party, where michelle dewberry is behind the bar at this late hour. yes, hello. the energy is still rolling here. >> look, i found a very, very
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happy man. >> you have indeed , michel. it's >> you have indeed, michel. it's very rare. >> it's very rare that i pull a pint for anyone. >> in fact, i don't even think i've ever done it. so, you know what? i do actually believe in credit. where it's due . because, credit. where it's due. because, let's be honest, the labour party have absolutely smashed it tonight, haven't they? so here you go . this one's on me. i'm you go. this one's on me. i'm not saying that it's going to be a very good quality. >> oh, michelle, on valentine's night, you gave me a heart, and now i'm getting a pint on a victory night. oh, i've never done this before. i think you're doing well. let's have a look. >> it's all about the head. >> it's all about the head. >> so i've been told. >> so i've been told. >> hang on. it's after midnight. so. hey i've been told it's all about the head. >> and i'm pretty impressed with that. everyone look at that . that. everyone look at that. look at that. i don't think i've ever poured a full pint in all my life. how many marks out of ten? nine on a nine. that's not bad, is it? i'll take that. but on a serious note, though,
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because it is a night for celebration for the labour party. the results are coming through thick and fast. how are you feeling? >> so, look, i'm feeling good. i think that result we've just seen in swindon is really, really important. it's a classic marginal seat. tory labour battle for frankly, you know, time immemorial. it's one of those real seats that what happensin those real seats that what happens in swindon is what the country, how the country goes. and that was a very good result for labour. but obviously the results in the north—east that we saw where reform was taking all those tory votes and labour was getting very small swings or no swing, will be a bit worrying when the dust settles, but as the results come in from across the results come in from across the country, i think it's going to be a good night for labour. >> well, i feel like i need to add this to my cv because now that we're look certain to have a labour government, i feel like i'm going to have to get a second job because you lot are going to come for our savings. no, our council tax. >> absolutely not. they're going to keep the promises to not increase income tax, to not increase income tax, to not increase national insurance. and
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i'm certainly not going to . i i'm certainly not going to. i know you didn't. i know you didn't. and but also on council tax i don't think that's a that's a scare story. look this government are you telling me that you're telling me if i come and talk to you in a year's time, my council tax everyone else's council tax will remain exactly as it currently is. >> i mean, they'll probably be the inflation rise you get every yeah >> but nothing beyond that. absolutely. i mean, i think the changes they might make are on things like capital gains tax, which very few people pay. and obviously they've said about sort of the non—doms tax very you might say very few people pay you might say very few people pay capital gains tax as it stands now, but a lot of people have an asset that increases massively when it's their primary residence that will be. >> are you coming after that? >> are you coming after that? >> no. absolutely not. that will remain exempt from capital gains tax. there's no way that the family home will be taxed any differently under labour. >> so why did keir starmer say then when he was asked, you know, he says that we're not going to raise taxes. the ones that you've just described for working people. he was asked, what do you mean by working
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people? he basically said, anyone that's not done well for themselves and had the audacity to put a few quid apart for a rainy day. >> i mean, i think that we need to we need to increase saving in this country. anyway, at the moment though, on capital gains tax, if you buy and sell shares, you're tax less than if you go to work and you work behind a bar pulling pints, >> but that's because there's a risk involved in your investment. they can go up and i can tell you i can tell you this conversation here, this conversation here, this conversation is going to continue. i am going to get the pints pulled, because i really do feel that i'm going to have to get a second job. he's saying my third job are back to the cheeky. >> lovely. thanks very much indeed. >> lovely. thanks very much indeed . catch you a little bit indeed. catch you a little bit later on. all right. >> let's go over the result for swindon south where robert buckland, the former justice secretary, has been ousted by heidi alexander in an extraordinary comeback for her as a labour candidate and now an mp. she won 21,676 votes against
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robert buckland's 12,070. mp. she won 21,676 votes against robert buckland's12,070. in third place there were reform uk. they won 6194. so labour's new majority there is 9606, which represents a 16% swing. interesting seat that because that's the kind of first very clear labour gain from the conservatives. but it still puts reform in third place. >> yes, but what i think i think that's broadly where we are, and i think in terms of vote share reform will be in first place. i have to say i don't underestimate the fact that reformers have come second in those working class seats, but i think it perhaps is skewed our analysis because the first three seats were all labour seats with a heavy brexit vote and reformed it incredibly well. i think actually most seats that are going to change hands tonight, and that's the important thing, are going to represent swindon for callum , because the liberal for callum, because the liberal democrats seem to have come fourth. >> so the greens got 2539 there and then you've got the liberal
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democrats on 1843. so they haven't done particularly well in swindon south where they expected to. callum. >> no. >> no. >> if you look at our entire strategy for this campaign, it's been ruthlessly blunt, we have a set of target seats that we're gunning for, and we are aiming to win them. and the exit poll suggests we are going to win 50 to 60 of those seats. >> although pushed into, sorry, fifth place by the greens. could that be a theme? i mean, the greens are a bit of a threat to you, aren't they? >> i mean, outside of our target seats and seats where we're sort of demographically in second place? yes absolutely. that will be a theme. but actually, i think the more important thing is when we see those first set of target results come in seats like sutton and cheam, carshalton and wallington, wimbledon, etc. a lot of the home counties, you'll see some strong lib dem results coming in. >> okay. >> okay. >> thank you. just hearing that labour have held washington and gateshead south. >> i mean reform was come second. you know coming up. >> but there you go. >> but there you go. >> well let's sharon hodgson see if we can listen in.
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>> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> she's just finished us. oh there you go. >> that's perfect timing. all right let's have a look at as we wait for more details to come through, more stats that we can, reveal to you . let's have a look reveal to you. let's have a look at some of the newspapers for this morning. britain sees red, says the sun, reflecting on the exit poll giving labour a 170 seat majority with sir keir starmer on his way to number 10 after millions of brits, they say, saw red at the ballot box in the times. >> the exit poll puts labour on course for landslide. it says with starmer and his wife victoria, pictured hand in hand , victoria, pictured hand in hand, they've added. starmer set to become prime minister with a blair style majority and the tories fears confirmed after a strong showing for reform . strong showing for reform. >> the express, then, has conservatives suffering their worst result in 100 and its 190 year history. there's a picture of rishi sunak and his wife walking away from the camera. it's quite fitting , actually.
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it's quite fitting, actually. crushing blow to tory party in election wipe—out. it says in the independent they've led simply with the word landslide , simply with the word landslide, with a side by side picture of sir keir starmer and rishi sunak with their wives leaving the polling stations. >> they've called labour's victory historic and the tories could crash to just 131 seats, a loss of 241, in the worst ever drubbing. >> the mirror keir we go, they say, as sir keir starmer are seen hand in hand with his wife leaving the polling station yesterday . yesterday. >> and the daily telegraph, my beloved newspaper, have led with labour landslide, adding that it is the worst result for the tories in modern history, with sunak expected to resign, it became a target , became a target, >> the mail has labour set for a historic landslide and the daily star famously once featured liz truss on the front as a lettuce has gone with their election special and the headline is 14 years in charge. >> those good bits in full, and
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there's a blank page , there's a blank page, >> the i has labour landslide. i mean, they could have been a bit more imaginative i know. >> and the guardian who must be cock a hoop this evening are saying huge labour majority predicted by exit poll. >> and we've got the metro that says the exit factor. keir starmer . starmer. >> ha. does that work? storm isha keir storms into number 10. isha keir storms into number 10. i don't get that at all. >> keir starmer it is midnight. i don't know, i don't get that one. i don't want the planer, >> it's half past midnight. in fact, we're going to try and drill down into some of the details for the last seat that was called. that was for warring washington and gateshead south. so we'll give you that in just a moment. we did ask i asked a question about boris johnson. can we just come back to it just to get it sorted? brandon. he appeared at that rally. he was popular in the room, but actually there's no clamour. there's no calling for this cincinnati style comeback, is there? i mean, i know you're close to him. >> well, yeah. look, i mean,
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there's a from parliamentarians, there's a from parliamentarians, there's a from parliamentarians, there's a lot of colleagues who will remember that people look back and sort of remember, as i said earlier on, boris had a mandate from the public and mps overruled that. we also have to remember at the end of his time as prime minister was chaos. it wasn't good. it was a problem. he couldn't field a government in those last few days and that is a real challenge. a lot of us will remember he have got a better result, but i think i'm not sure he would actually, because actually, i think as as matthew has outlined earlier, he has an ability. boris has an undoubted ability to connect with people. but what we're seeing , i with people. but what we're seeing, i think with with people. but what we're seeing , i think with reform with people. but what we're seeing, i think with reform and i think the, the, the dynamic that my party has got to think aboutin that my party has got to think about in the period ahead is where people who are minded to be on the right of centre conservative are voting reform is not because of personalities per se, it's because of issues. and if they are doing it, as matthew was saying earlier on, primarily on immigration, of course, boris was always very liberal on immigration, actually , liberal on immigration, actually, to be fair, and throughout his career he was people see him as a right winger because of
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brexit, but on a whole range of other issues. he really wasn't, so if that is what's driving things and if people really are driving to reform for those core reasons, boris might connect in a different way and i don't doubt that would have in a general election. he has a different dynamic and that could help us, but i'm not so sure it would necessarily mean a big change in the sense of you'd be seeing a conservative victory, because that's not reflected in the figures we're seeing so far. >> but what i'm intrigued by is, i mean, a couple of hours ago, we're talking about how to rebuild the tory party in the wake of the exit poll. and you and james ipp were saying, well, look, you know, you need to we need to refocus on the, you know, the one nation tory. and but i mean, the votes seem to suggest that actually people are shifting to the right. so if you want to win them back, isn't that where you have to go? >> well, for i me, it's not about whether you're one nation touh about whether you're one nation tour. you're right. it's about offering what people see as a genuine conservative party offer. we've got to be showing people that we can provide for them a better opportunity in the future. that does mean lower taxes, more control over their own lives. yes. challenging the
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woke agenda, these kind of things, i think will be a challenge for a labour government to be able to deliver for people in a way that doesn't see a growth in things like reform or we as a party, have got to think about how we can connect to people to show that we understand that and we can represent that and have some solutions for the future. otherwise, we're going to be out of power for a very long time. >> you're desperate to jump in. >> you're desperate to jump in. >> just going back to this point about boris johnson, i'm convinced from my time on the doorsteps in the last few weeks that most people made up their minds quite a while ago that they were not going to vote conservative. and the reason they did that was because of the chaos that brandon referred to. the reality is people were sick and tired of boris johnson by the time he left office, and they were never going to put up with him again. and if he's the solution to the conservative party's future, labour will remain in power for a very long time and what's interesting with this election, actually, if you look at it, yes, we were behind in the polls under boris, but a lot closer. >> but actually the gap between us and labour at the end of the election, at the beginning of the election, in terms of polling was pretty similar. so the election itself, for all of the election itself, for all of the chaos that we've had and
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this has not been a good election campaign for the conservative party by any stretch. but actually, the pubuc stretch. but actually, the public clearly had made its mind up. what's the dynamic that's really shifted is where conservatives who might have been tempted to either stay home or possibly give us one last chance, have been given a different option with reform in the last few weeks, and they've taken it. >> but that's exactly my point. the polls barely shifted during the election campaign, and people made their minds up on the basis of what they saw under the basis of what they saw under the leadership of boris johnson and liz truss and so on. and that was something they would not put up with. >> and i think the sort of history of boris johnson has been slightly, mythologised. is that a word? isn't it? isn't it. no. >> he'd be happy with that. >> he'd be happy with that. >> so he loves mythology. so i knocked on doors every day dunng knocked on doors every day during that 2019 election. actually, it was just a brexit referendum. the labour party behaved disgracefully and tried to have a second referendum. but you will remember, people were saying i just want brexit done. so i'm going to, even though i normally vote labour. so it wasn't really that, oh my goodness, i just love that boris johnson it was i want brexit dynamic. >> it was a dynamic of we have boris, we had corbyn and we have
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brexit. those three things together was quite a unique election actually in 20. >> hold that thought. 000| election actually in 20. >> hold that thought. 0001 was, i was just going to go to clacton . oh go on then, bring clacton. oh go on then, bring callum in and then we'll jump to. >> all right then i will, i will because i was just wondering how, how the lib dems if this is your best election result since 2005, which it could well be. how then do you respond? and you reform your views? because you're going to have to an extent, if you're seeing people plumping for smaller parties on the ascendance . but reform is so the ascendance. but reform is so diametrically opposed to what the lib dems are offering, don't you have to take that into account as you move through the next five years? i think that there is a certain element of reality where party's position relative to other parties, of course, >> i think everyone over the next five years will be positioning herself relative to labouh positioning herself relative to labour, who look like they're on course for a landslide majority. now, we know from the last labour government, that labour historically aren't amazing when it comes to upholding quite precious civil liberties . now,
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precious civil liberties. now, that's an area the lib dems have been historically strong on. when labour were implementing frankly draconian anti—terrorism legislation and draconian legislation and draconian legislation that that really messed with the core rights and values that we as a nation hold deah values that we as a nation hold dear. the lib dems were there under charles kennedy holding labour's feet to the fire. wouldn't it be fully intend to do that? we fully intend to do that over the next five years, when labour inevitably swing to the far right on issues like civil liberties? >> that's ridiculous . we're not >> that's ridiculous. we're not having that. we're not having that. personally, i think we should have introduced id cards, but we might be able to have a an argument to say that they went fairly draconian on the whole lockdown, wanting more of it. we didn't say this is a mish, we didn't want more of it. we go to clacton, we better had let's go. >> let's go to clacton. because gb news home and security editor mark white is there for us and apparently he can tell us what nigel farage has been up to today. >> well, i can tell you that at the moment, nigel farage is in a
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local restaurant. just chilling, having a bite to eat and getting feedback. of course , from the feedback. of course, from the various constituencies where reform is doing incredibly well . reform is doing incredibly well. let me just show you while i chat to you, the count floor here at the clacton leisure centre. all the votes are in and all the votes have now been verified. so a number of the candidates have been brought in to be told about that verification process for nigel farage, there is a representative that is here at the moment. he'll be here i think a bit later on in the morning. closer to his count time. but it will be an incredible achievement for him alone, just in this constituency. if he manages to overtake and overturn what was a 25, almost 25,000 majority by,
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giles watling, the conservative mp here previously in 2019, the conservatives had been pretty bullish to be honest. one of the things they were hoping might happen was that given just the strength of labour across the country, that what we might see is actually some of the vote that might have gone to reform going to the labour candidate instead , but it doesn't look instead, but it doesn't look like that's the case. an exit poll is suggesting that nigel farage will clinch this seat and of course, that exit poll also pointing to 13 other seats that may also go reform's way across the country. we have to add , as the country. we have to add, as always, these are exit polls and no result is in yet in which reform has succeeded. however those early reports of the
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counts that you have been featuring, of course , do show a featuring, of course, do show a very significant swing for reform, indicating that there has been a very high, percentage of the vote going reform's way. in fact, nigel farage put out a message to his followers just a short time ago in which he was saying the first few counts that were in were suggesting a 30% surge in the vote for reform. he was predicting that many reform mps would be returned tonight. well, let's see what happens in the fullness of time. but i think it is without doubt one of the emerging stories of the evening is just how well reform have done. there was, of course, some concern within some of the ranks of reform about a dip in the polls after some of the controversies, but if you spoke
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to nigel farage, he never really believed that dip in the polls. he believed that it was all a confection of the establishment media. this row over certain issues that the core vote for reform , he believed, was still reform, he believed, was still solid, that they would turn out. and certainly what we've been receiving and seeing so far with these counts that are being declared reform is showing very strongly indeed. >> okay, mark, thanks very much indeed. if only you could see what happens here in this studio. >> i'm sorry. we just can't stop talking gossiping . talking gossiping. >> that gloria de piero i know never shuts up. but no, it's all good stuff. gloria, but we need to crack on with the show because, as mark was reporting from from clacton, actually , from from clacton, actually, nigel farage has just released this little clip on social media. >> it's midnight. there were two results in from the north—east of england that put reform on 30% of the vote. that is way more than any possible
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prediction or projection. it's almost unbelievable. and what doesit almost unbelievable. and what does it mean? it means we're going to win seats, many, many seats. i think right now across the country. but to watch the tv coverage, it's almost comical. there's not a single representative on there from reform uk mainstream media are in denial, just as much as our political parties. this is going to be 6 million votes plus this folks, is huge . folks, is huge. >> well, what could all these early results mean? let's cross now to gb news. deputy political editor tom harwood. >> yes, that's right. we've been getting some of these real world results in and plugging them through our systems . because through our systems. because guess what? it starts to change what the exit poll says. we've been used to these numbers for ten for labour, one, three, one for the conservatives 61 and 13 for the conservatives 61 and 13 for reform. but look what happens when we churn in the new results up in the northeast and down in swindon. how does that change our seat prediction? well, look , reform drops from 13
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well, look, reform drops from 13 to 9 on the basis of these new results. no longer are they the fourth party in parliament, but the fifth party behind the snp on the back of this new data. and if we just quickly look at the share prediction of this vote, they were over 17 now just down to 16.9 and the labour party , they were on 36.1. party, they were on 36.1. they're now on 36.4. so the labour party is doing a little bit better than the exit poll off the back of these results so far. and reform a little bit worse. but again, very early results. martin baxter , you've results. martin baxter, you've been crunching these numbers. what does this mean. yes. >> so tom we've only got five seats. so far. so that's really not very many. not a big statistical sample. but on the base of what we know so far, labour are doing a tiny bit better than the exit polls suggest. and reform doing a tiny bit worse. but it's still there's still lots to play for. we're just in the early days of finding out how the actual how actual votes are being cast.
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>> people will be surprised by this because the first two results up in the north east, reform was doing a little bit better perhaps than many were expecting. >> yes, but in the washington seat and in swindon, south reform did a bit worse than expected to sort of. well, i was going to say bouncing out slightly worse for reform on overall. but again , it's only overall. but again, it's only five seats. it will get more of anideain five seats. it will get more of an idea in the next hour or so. as many more seats come in, we'll get a idea of the true picture. >> but again, with these shares, we're looking at nought point, nought sort of percentages changing. overall, what can we say about the accuracy of the exit poll compared to the numbers that we're seeing on screen? >> that's a great point. yes, because by and large the exit polls coming out roughly right as it as it often does, it's a foolish it's foolish to bet against the exit polls, certainly at this stage of the evening. so it's looking about right. but we will be checking to see how the actual votes come in. and, and if there's any difference between those and the exit poll. >> yes. a little bit of change here. and what we're doing perhaps is also feeding into this snp number which has ticked
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up a little bit, >> that may be an artefact at the moment, i think. let's wait before we get some scottish results and then we'll get a more clear read. the. yeah, the snp prediction. i think as everybody knows, is a little bit uncertain at this stage and it's a big shock for people because many people were expecting the snp to drop by seats but not down anywhere near this much, or indeed this much. yes, that's towards the lower end of snp expectations. i would think that they have been used to having a dominant position in scottish politics, and it looks like the era of peak snp has passed, and thatis era of peak snp has passed, and that is particularly interesting given the conservatives vote share. >> it could be that whilst the conservatives lose seats in the south of england that had perhaps even 20,000 majorities, they'll be holding on to seats in scotland that maybe had only a few hundred vote majorities. >> that's right. and in our polling in scotland, we found that there's quite a lot of pro—union tactical voting. so conservative and labour and lib dem voters will support each
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other's parties to keep the snp out. >> it's really, really interesting how perhaps the scottish electorate has been almost trained into being much more sophisticated in how they vote after what happened in scotland in 2015, all but three seats going to the snp. there have now been a few general elections where sort of the electorate has been trained into to where vote, in which particular seat. i suppose we might start to see that happening in english seats in the next general election, where labour will win in many, many seats because of the split in the centre right vote between reform and the conservatives. >> yeah, so there's i mean, in england there's been a lot of tactical voting, which is anti—conservative. so just taking us back to scotland for a second. one common theme is that governments that were in power when covid happened are being rejected by the voters. >> really interesting people, perhaps are delayed covid backlash. just before we leave you this is the map of the country so far. five seats declared and they're all for the labour party. >> okay , tom, thanks very much
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>> okay, tom, thanks very much indeed. right. let's have a quick chat around the desk then. jeff gloria de piero, sir brandon lewis and callum robertson are here, all right, i know brendan. you wanted to. brandon, you wanted to get it right in the end. you got to you wanted to come back. and what callum was saying earlier on, well, actually, it was . well, actually, it was. >> yeah. to build on a point callum made and gloria was making , callum made and gloria was making, which is i think we've seen five seats so far and they've got particular demographics and type seats, particularly these kind of what have become known as the red wall seats. i think as the night goes on, one of the things that i suspect we might see, i could be proved wrong on this, but i think we might see is very big differences in how things work in different parts of the country. so before some of my colleagues charged down the road of having to beat reform in by moving and taking that reform vote, there'll be other parts of the country where we've got conservative mps that are going to move lib dem and reform won't feature at all. and i think this is going to be the interesting thing, the thing with this election, i think we might see more outliers than we've seen
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before, and we'll see some differences geographically, and that's going to be a challenge potentially for a labour government in how they govern and hold a majority in the future. but the big change for us as a conservative party, and this comes back to the point, james and i've been making around, we've got to be thinking very carefully about what a future conservative party offers and how it wants to appeal to a younger generation and a wider part of the uk that clearly tonight is going to be voting potentially lib dem for the poll if the exit poll is right. and certainly so far we're seeing an ebb of that into reform. but it's going to be different in different parts of the country. >> just to say we've got a labour hold in newcastle central and west, a labour hold, that's she onwurah's seat that seems to have been held for them. we'll bnng have been held for them. we'll bring you the stats on that when we have them, but we've got some breaking news for you and the countis breaking news for you and the count is being thrown into disarray in glasgow. >> apparently over three alleged cases of ballot fraud. let's get the very latest from our reporter , tony mcguire, who's in reporter, tony mcguire, who's in glasgow. what can you tell us,
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tony? >> hello. good morning. well, certainly around an hour and a bit ago , police arrived here at bit ago, police arrived here at the emirates arena in the centre of glasgow, and they removed three votes from the count. they were then bagged by officers. and taken away. now the police reaction was in response to concerns about personation, which is a person going into a voting centre and, making votes for somebody for who they are, not someone who is different from the name that is on the ballot paper. and certainly they arrived here. now, while this is highly unusual to actually happen on account, we were told that it happen on account, we were told thatitis happen on account, we were told that it is not, you know, too much of a concern in terms of the numbers. so we know that there's three. this isn't a case of, of a whole box, being spoilt of, of a whole box, being spoilt of ballots, but certainly, you know, people here were kind of confused at the sight. now,
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about 3 to 5 minutes ago, we heard over the tannoy here at the emirates arena that, candidates for glasgow south west and south, i believe it is, they were called into the briefing room where i believe that they were going to get told behind closed doors the extent of what actually just went down here at emirates. now, we know that counting has proceeded on some tables. that has stopped unclear as to whether that's just done with the counting for the night. we are only around two hours away from our first believed count to be called here from emirates in glasgow , but from emirates in glasgow, but certainly a little bit of activity. a while back there where, you know, as you can expect that there is always going to be a certain police presence around and about outside. but nobody quite foresaw them. a group of officers rushing into the middle, to discuss with the, the observers of the count,
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obviously asked quite a lot of interesting questions about how did they know? but certainly that's a topic that i will leave to the experts, but so far everything seems quite calm here. but yet, quite a little bit of action. not too long ago . bit of action. not too long ago. >> tony keeps up to date with that. thanks very much indeed . that. thanks very much indeed. do you want. are you mid percy? >> well, i was going to say. are we going to just, just just go over that newcastle upon tyne central and west result just quickly before we go to the watch party. just because it's quite interesting. again labour have held that seat 18,875. but again we've got reform uk in second place with 7815, and the conservatives pushed into third with 4228. what's interesting about the labour vote share is it has gone down. so again, we're seeing that pattern of reform eating into not just labour's vote, but also pushing the conservatives into third place. >> you have some historical
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comparisons to 97 there about why we shouldn't all get too alarmed in the labour party. >> and that's pretty much what happened to labour seats after 1997. the strong traditional labour seats, the majorities declined, the turnout declined . declined, the turnout declined. and i think reform probably is getting people who abstained in previous elections to come out and vote. but at the same time, labour did extraordinarily well in the more marginal seats, largely thanks to hard working labour mps who put themselves about and increase their majority. and actually, i think you see something similar happening again right now. >> turnout 54. down, down nearly ten. >> these turnouts are quite low. i would suggest, shall we cross now to our gb news watch party in essex with patrick christys . in essex with patrick christys. >> hello and yes, welcome back to the gb news election watch party here in essex. everyone has been gripped by your footage on the live screen as well. i'm joined on my left by lord bailey, shaun bailey tory peer. we've also just got some wonderful gb news viewers and
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listeners here. seana, we'll start by saying to you a challenging evening for you isn't it. what do you make of this so far. >> i'll repeat again there's no sugarcoating. this is a devastating night for the tories. i think my personal angle will be there's a lot of good tory mps who will now be cast out, who will actually deliver what the country wanted. if they were asked , i think this if they were asked, i think this what's important here is when you look at reform's results, their share of the vote will be important because that will dictate a lot of the conversation that the tory party then has internally. it may give some tory mps the confidence to move, you know, to the left, to the right, excuse me and have some more conversations that ordinary people would recognise. i think that will be important. but also keir starmer will have to look at his vote share and what reform has done to that in order to steer himself forward. >> yeah. and i mean, where did this rot set in for you, sean? you know, where who is to blame for this result this evening for the tories? >> i think there's a number of
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things to say when you've been the government for 14 years, it's hard to carry that weight for a long time. one of the things that keir starmer and all his new mps will find out is government is very difficult. the other thing is, i think there's been a number of events along the way. we needed to deliver more, we needed to tell our own story more, getting rid of boris was an act of self—harm as far as i just on just on that. >> and i know that people's views, some people's views on bofis views, some people's views on boris johnson have perhaps changed a little bit over time. but could i just get a little bit of a straw poll by virtue of noise in this room, who preferred boris to rishi? so if you preferred boris , okay. if you preferred boris, okay. if you preferred boris, okay. if you preferred boris, okay. if you preferred rishi, not a sausage. the labour voter over there put his hand up. so i think that maybe tells you everything you need to. you need to know. yeah. okay. now i've just got some, some people around me here. so you've got a microphone in front of you. is there anything you'd particularly like to ask sean, or any observations that you'd be keen to make about what the results are so far? >> i think that, you know, that
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a government can lock people in their homes and shut down businesses. it just it shouldn't be allowed. it's just too much. i think that no government should have that much power. >> so , so ever since that >> so, so ever since that happened. because now, now conceivably, we've got a stonking majority of a party that wanted to do that for longer and harder. sean. >> i mean, look , keir starmer, >> i mean, look, keir starmer, for many people he would have been perceived as making the wrong calls. he wanted to do more lockdowns and for longer, but actually this is one of the problems of being in government. the whole political class virtually was in favour of that. and i think one of the problems with a supermajority is you feel like you have a big mandate, but keir starmer will have to remember he represents a broad set of people, even people who didn't vote for him. so that's going to be his challenge to make sure that he doesn't just do what he's activists wants , do what he's activists wants, but what the country wants. >> yeah, everything now is about to become his problem, right? and all of these issues that he's been very easy to sit on the sidelines and snipe about and moan about, he's now going to have to try to deal with and
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overcome. it remains to be seen if he can do that. could i just ask you here, what's been the biggest issue for you at this election? is there anything you'd like to ask sean? have a chat with him about it at all? >> well, i'm a small business owner based in the east midlands. i am scared for tomorrow. i've read the labour manifesto today about all around employment and stuff, and it's going to change. and it's changed because of big business. they're going to bring the unions back in, but it's going to affect us little employers. i employ eight people and i'm frightened for tomorrow. so, sean, i was going to ask you, who do you think now can bring this conservative party back in this conservative party back in this next parliament? good. >> all right. so this is the next leader question, isn't it? >> go on. i think there's two things to say. i think first and foremost, excuse me. the conservative party is going to have to do some soul searching. are we going to move to the left. are we going to move to the right? who's going to be the leader? and i think there's some things we need to consider. we need to consider being a voice
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for real conservatism. somebody said to me tonight, are you upset about loss? of course i am. but what i'm more upset aboutis am. but what i'm more upset about is the loss of conservatism. conservatism is a broad church is for working people. it's for small business. the whole political class has become a bit obsessed with big business. let's go back to small business. let's go back to small business. you are our country's employees. you employ many more people. but if the conservatives can have a conversation about fundamentally what's going on, then we can come back. because then we can come back. because the key thing about the reform vote to labour, the point is thatis vote to labour, the point is that is a protest vote because the country is hurting and we have to provide those answers. >> can i just ask you before i come to this gentleman here, do you feel as though you're paying as much tax as you can at the moment? >> oh, yeah. and i know that i'm going to be paying more from tomorrow. i know they say that they're not going to put the tax up, but they're going to stealth tax us. they're going to make us pay tax us. they're going to make us pay for our energy bills for all this new green energy. they're going to put our road tax up. they're going to put tolls on our road. we're going to be just paying our road. we're going to be just paying through the roof. >> and i take it that you you feel as though you absolutely can't afford that.
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>> then. absolutely. >> then. absolutely. >> okay. >> okay. >> yeah. that costs jobs. >> yeah. that costs jobs. >> hard year . >> hard year. >> hard year. >> that cost jobs. it looks good when you ramp up taxes because you think you're getting money in the exchequer. but what employers do they have to cut the biggest expense. and that's always people. it will cost jobs okay. >> now sir, are there any key points that you'd like to make about this election so far from what we've seen or to put to sean, just to just fire away? really? yeah. i mean, sean is the only politician around the table. >> i should just say i'm david from buzzard, and my dad worked in a factory, but he wasn't a toolmaker. >> hey, yo, i was wondering what i was wondering when we were going to go to make a joke. >> and it's taken us until about 1:00 in the morning. so we are. >> he made tractors. >> he made tractors. >> and if i can actually prove it, so what i really want to ask and sean's the only politician around the table is, can we trust keir starmer because he sits there with his sad face and says, people laugh when i say when i say my dad was a toolmaker. i looked it up and i fact checked it. he owned a tool factory so why is he lying on
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that? he doesn't understand why people laugh. if you look up tool on the definition, it's not a very nice one. is at best it's a very nice one. is at best it's a foolish person who's controlled by others and we won't go into what it could be at worst. >> but. but yeah, but i think i think you're making a point there about whether or not he can be trusted because he's, he's his his stigma is he's flip flopped on a lot of different things, hasn't he? >> i go back to a point. >> i go back to a point. >> can i just so is he a liar for all of those? but also, i think on the tories, i was watching the tv programme today and there was a quote, betrayal never comes from the enemy. and the tories betrayed their voters. >> so let me do both of them. so firstly, if you talk about the tories, i think in many ways we abandon our core beliefs and that's what people hold on to you. but you vote tory with your head and a lot of the tories. i mean, i spoke to a young boy, i'll give it to you. and he said a lot of conservative mps think twitter is politics. and the mistake they made was abandoning our beliefs. you know, we
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believe in a country, believe in hard work. we believe in low taxes. where was that in parliament? so in many respects, i couldn't argue with you that the public feel betrayed. when you talk about keir starmer. i go back to patrick's point. he's about to learn it's very easy to sit on the sidelines and poke fun. what's he going to do? and i give you one example of that. he talked about his border force. his border force will be fully ineffective because unless you have a relationship with a country where the people come from, you can deliver no change. and i say that because i think he's sincere, right. but i don't think he understands. he's sincere, right. but i don't think he understands . and i hope think he understands. and i hope to high heaven for all of our sakes that he can deliver. but i worry that he can't . worry that he can't. >> all right, guys, well, look, thank you very much from everybody here at the election watch party. we are going to be bang at it all the way through until 6 am. i think most of us are anyway, aren't we? yes, that's right. good. okay, back to you in the studio. >> lovely stuff. >> lovely stuff. >> patrick. thanks very much indeed. well, you know, we've had a great panel for the last few hours, but it's time that you've all lost your seats , you've all lost your seats, basically. and we're going to we're going to clear you out.
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yes, but final thought . final yes, but final thought. final thought. james, from you i think it's sad. >> right . it's sad. >> right. it's sad for my party. but the british people are infinitely wise. and, you know, they've made their choice. and good luck to the government that follows. all right . follows. all right. >> james heappey, brandon lewis, gloria de piero and geoff hoon, thank you so much for your expertise, wisdom and fun and laughter this evening. much appreciated . appreciated. >> we've got a great panel heading your way though in just a couple of minutes. kwasi kwarteng, mark oaten, luciana berger, steve mccabe, robert halfon will all be here to give us their thoughts on what we've seen so far. a lot of it, of course, based on the exit poll and those few results that have come through. well so far they've all gone red, but will that continue throughout the night? we'll bring you all the very latest. of course . it is very latest. of course. it is 1:00 in the morning. this is gb news. >> we're live across the united kingdom. this is gb news,
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britain's election . britain's election. channel. >> live across the united kingdom. this is gb news vote 2024. the people decide i'm camilla tominey i'm stephen dixon. >> we are three hours into our 2024 election coverage. six seats have been called for all labouh seats have been called for all labour. here's what the shadow labour. here's what the shadow labour minister, steve reid, told us a little bit earlier on. >> people are backing a changed labour party that five years ago, none of us would have believed it could be possible . believed it could be possible. >> the exit poll has predicted the following. labour to win 410 seats and the conservatives to win 131, leaving labour with a 170 seat majority. the liberal democrats are projected to win
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61 seats, reform on 13 seats and the snp reduced to ten seats in scotland. >> well, it's certainly an encouraging prediction for reform uk, and here's what nigel farage had to say about it a little earlier. >> this is going to be 6 million votes plus. this folks, is huge in the general election. >> count is being thrown into disarray in glasgow over three alleged cases of ballot fraud. here's what gb news scotland reporter tony maguire told us moments ago. >> police arrived here at the emirates arena in the centre of glasgow and they removed three votes from the count and the gb news watch party continues in essex and it looks like they've really started to get stuck in. >> look at that. >> look at that. >> i don't think i've ever poured a full pint in all my life. >> how many marks out of ten? nine. honest nine. that's not bad, is it? i'll take that .
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bad, is it? i'll take that. >> we're also going to be joined by our panel to romp through the evening's events. we'll have kwasi kwarteng with us a former chancellor, luciana berger, the former labour mp robert halfon, the former education minister steve mccabe and mark oaten, as well as the pollster matt goodwin. >> oh, this is gb news britain's election . channel. heck, well election. channel. heck, well i mean it's certainly proving to be an interesting night. we're only three hours in. we've hardly only got a handful of results in, but there's so much to watch very closely , including to watch very closely, including actually the prime minister's seat standing in the newly formed seat of richmond and northallerton. could it be too close to call anna riley is there. hi, anna. >> good evening to you. >> good evening to you. >> or should i say good morning at this time? yes. you may be able to hear the rustling of ballot papers behind me. it's certainly got a lot busier here.
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that verification is still underway with the time of the count aimed for 2 am, with that result coming in at 4 am. there's 13 candidates standing for this seat, including rishi sunak, who currently holds it. he's held this seat since 2015. in 2019, he got 67% of the vote with over 27,000 of his constituents voting for him at polls last week, were saying that he may well lose his seat, but the odds on from the bookies and from the most recent yougov poll do say that he will keep this seat here in richmond and northallerton. other candidates have arrived so far we've got the usual candidates that stand in elections like this so labouh in elections like this so labour, lib dem, the green party. there's also reform that's standing and other
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parties as well, including the workers party, the yorkshire party, and we've had the monster raving loony party that have recently turned up. they've got a couple of applause and cheers. when they arrived . there's also when they arrived. there's also count binface that's standing , count binface that's standing, and several other independents as well . but certainly this and several other independents as well. but certainly this is a crucial seat for rishi sunak, now incumbent prime minister has ever lost their constituency and he was the one that called. i believe it was just seeing count binface on screen there now . but binface on screen there now. but yeah, locally speaking to people here, speaking to the constituents, main concerns for them are around housing, lack of housing in the area, lack of affordable housing for younger people who were born and bred here, have jobs here and want to stay living here. a lot of people have second homes in nonh people have second homes in north yorkshire , which makes it north yorkshire, which makes it hard for younger people to stay in the area. also issues around the nhs, the friarage hospital
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closed in 2019. that's something that a lot of these candidates have been campaigning around. they lost their a&e at the local hospital and widely more issues around the nhs as well. lack of people in the area, being able to get a gp appointment and also concerns around the cost of living as well. so we'll see as those results come in. whether rishi sunak does keep his seat . rishi sunak does keep his seat. but the labour candidate here has said don't forget, let's look to the election just in may for the new metro mayor of north yorkshire. it was a brand new seat that was created and the conservatives were tipped to win. but it was actually labour that got in. and on that day of the election, keir starmer in fact came to northallerton. he gave a speech in a rugby club and said we're here in northallerton, in rishi sunaks backyard and it's labour that's won . the north yorkshire mayoral won. the north yorkshire mayoral election. this area is a true
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blue constituency. it's rural part of north yorkshire, very typically blue. so we will see whether rishi sunak keeps his seat. the odds on are that he will, but as we get those results later this morning, we'll keep you updated. >> lovely stuff anna. thanks very much indeed. i'm not quite sure which candidate is that monster raving? >> i don't know, but if the candidate on the left beats the conservatives and it really is a bad night, well, with his, ventriloquist dummy. >> yes , indeed. there are lots >> yes, indeed. there are lots of jokes that could be had there, but we won't bother. but there, but we won't bother. but there you go. i always like the fact that in the you know, wherever the prime minister is standing, whoever that may be, that you do always get these weird and wonderful candidates. but i think that's part of the joy but i think that's part of the joy of our system. >> if you haven't got a monster raving loony or indeed a count binface in your constituency as prime minister, it's just not worth it. >> not quite. right? right. we've got a new panel for you. what a great panel it is. former chancellor of the exchequer kwasi kwarteng, former conservative minister robert halfon and former labour shadow
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ministers steve mccabe and luciana berger. >> welcome to all of you . well, >> welcome to all of you. well, we've got six seats down so far. labour have won them all. you'll be familiar with the exit poll. a large majority of 170 predicted for labour tory annihilation. kwasi kwarteng, is this your fault? >> no. for a start, i don't think it's annihilation. it's a terrible result. but today rather yesterday, people were saying it was going to be the biggest labour majority since 1830. that hasn't happened and we've got 130 seats. and i think at that , if that is true, we can at that, if that is true, we can then rebuild. >> i mean, is that a good result? >> 131 it's not a good result. it's a very bad result. it's a disastrous result. but it's not extinction level. >> but how how do you rebuild on the basis that i mean, do you go one nation or do you go further to the right to try to win back reform voters? >> so i think initially you have to have some reconnection with the right. i don't think it's a formal deal with reform, but
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you've got to engage with those voters because it appears they'll get about. i mean, nigel farage said 6 million votes. i think it looks like 5 million. and you can't just say to those people, you could never cross our threshold ever again. that doesn't make sense. so you've got to engage with them, but i don't think you need to do formal deals or anything like that. >> robert, what do you make of the rise of reform? because it looks as if reform is set to win a lot more seats than a lot of the polls had suggested. equally, in some of these red wall seats, they're coming second and pushing the conservatives into third place. >> well, of course it's a you know , grim night for the know, grim night for the conservative party. you know, five years ago we thought we'd be in power for a long time. and now we've lost it looks like we've lost hundreds of seats. i'm as much worried about the rise of reform as i am for the floating voters who voted for the labour party. so what have you got to remember? is that the millions of people are voting labouh millions of people are voting labour. some of them, of course, are going to be labour activists, but there's going to be millions of them who are actually floating voters who
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voted conservative last time. and also, i'm also worried about all the liberal democrats. so what we have to do, you can't just reach out to reform what you've got to do is do what cam did in the past. and boris, to some extent, is try and have a fusion between all kinds of voters floating voters, of which the majority of the british people are like my former constituents in harlow. but if we just tack one direction, what we just tack one direction, what we will do is we'll just be a fringe party and we won't absolutely win across the country in the way that we need to at the next election. >> all right, let's turn our attention to labour on this one then, should we? because when you look at, i mean, this is the vote share prediction. so we don't know that that it's bang on. but however 36.4% for labouh on. but however 36.4% for labour. now that puts you on comparatively shaky ground doesn't it steve. non—existent honeymoon period for a kick off. >> i wouldn't have said that at all. i mean, i think i think the share in 2015 was 37, wasn't it ?
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share in 2015 was 37, wasn't it? but i'm sorry, it's not really that different . that different. >> no, it's lower than jeremy corbyn got . corbyn got. >> well, yes. well i don't think he's actually think i would hold him out as a shining example of success. would you. >> well no, not i mean not not, not in the great scheme of things. >> but it raises questions, doesn't it. well, i don't think it was a very different great success, this great election result for result for keir starmer on 36% of the of the, of the vote. >> well, the conservatives got under 37% at the last general election and no one, no 43% bofis election and no one, no 43% boris got about 40. we got about 2015. forgive me, 2015, 2015. it was under it was it was around the same, same same point. >> it was 36.9. yeah. but no, no one, no one at that point in any way questioned the conservatives right to govern. we have a system which is on a seat by seat constituency. >> we had a much smaller majority in 2015. so it looks like you're going to it looks like you're going to it looks like you're going to it looks like you're going to have a big majority at 37. we had a
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majority, what, 15, 20 seats at the time, it was about 12 seats. >> and the conservatives today are going to have the lowest number of seats on this projection that they have ever had in your party's history. >> somebody's calling this. it might be a social media thing, a loveless landslide. and that's to reflect the fact that there's no real love for sir keir starmer. well reflected in the results so far. >> and indeed the exit poll i was i was i was in swindon today. obviously you've already had the swindon result. i was knocking on doors for the majority of today and people were willingly and very excitingly going out because they want change in this country and they wanted to see a strong labour party. >> i mean, you know, we're splitting hairs. 36% is not an overwhelming endorsement. on the other hand. >> no, but it's not unusual. that's agree. >> and 2005 was the same. i mean i was a candidate in 2005 as robert was, and tony blair got about 36% of the vote, and it was still a big majority. i think it's just a function of the electoral system we have. well, it might also be the reform factor and the fact that perhaps, you know, sir keir starmer coming into number 10, as seems to be the case tomorrow ,
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as seems to be the case tomorrow, isn't exactly riding high on a very positive approval rating anyway. >> look, we're going to leave that just we're going to park that just we're going to park that just we're going to park that just for a second because i want to go to camden, because the hoban and saint pancras countis the hoban and saint pancras count is being held there. and that, of course, is where sir keir starmer is a candidate. and our political editor, chris hope, is there for us. chris >> hi, steve. yeah. hi, camilla. yeah, i'm just watching what i'm trying to track how reform is also eating quite closely into labour's support in the north. that's an unremarked trend we're seeing in these early seats, and we're hearing just vague thoughts that a surprise result could be. and against the against the kind of tsunami washing away loads of tory seats is. yvette cooper is under pressure in pontefract, castleford and knottingley . castleford and knottingley. she's got a very small majority of course, in the old seat of normanton, pontefract and castleford. so this , this is castleford. so this, this is eating into labour seats. labour support in the north of england
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by reform uk could have could bnng by reform uk could have could bring down a labour big beast with no guarantees on that happening yet. but there's talk of reform taking that seat and that'd be quite fascinating. and also on the tory side already , also on the tory side already, the anger is starting to bubble up. you've heard, robert buxton saying here he calls it an armoured knight of armageddon for the tory party he says that this party, his party has got to offer more to young people. stop and stop people . undisciplined and stop people. undisciplined tories try and grab headlines saying we've lost before the election as suella braverman, the former home secretary, did in the daily telegraph. so already we're getting we're starting to get the different parties that are going to forming. the labour party is running away with the election, no doubt on current trends, but little elements of problems for them. maybe with yvette cooper and the tory party. well, the inquest is just beginning . inquest is just beginning. >> okay, chris, thanks very much indeed. >> i mean, that's interesting. i'm just with regard let's pick
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up that conversation, luciano, because i know you wanted to react to me saying that perhaps keir starmer wasn't very popular going into number 10. >> oh, i mean, i mean, again, what people were very much calling for and were having those conversations on the doorstep today is change. people desperately want change. and the choice at this election was between more of the same, more of the conservatives for five more years, or a changed labour party . and it is a change. party. and it is a change. labour party, i know, perhaps more than most, having left the labour party and come back to it, that the party is unrecognisable from the party. back in 2019 under the previous leadership leadership. in terms of what keir starmer it's no you know, it's nothing short of an amazing piece of work. i wouldn't have expected labour party to have turned around in the way that it has. and it's andifs the way that it has. and it's and it's put the party back to the country rather than what we've seen. unfortunately, what i think has characterised and suddenly came up on the doorstep today is a government that has been party first rather than country first. and that's the change that people have been desperate to see and talked about. these are not my words .
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about. these are not my words. these are the words that have come up in the conversations i've had today in swindon. i mean, that is the problem, isn't it, robert, that the conservative party has appeared over the last few years to have been just really inward looking and that never goes down? >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> i mean, you know, you could have had alexander the great in charge. but the fact is, every single day, there have been articles in the papers written by conservatives saying the conservatives are rubbish or x is not working or y is not working. now, if the public see that they're going to just see a party squabbling and arguing with itself, is it inevitable that they say, okay, sadly, we're not going to be conservatives anymore and the pubuc conservatives anymore and the public don't like divided parties and the thing that came up on the doorsteps was absolutely the division. but also what liz truss did, you know, that came up again and again and again. we went down to 20% roughly when she was around . 20% roughly when she was around. we've never recovered since. i do think that she has a lot to answer for what has gone on. >> robert, you mean conservatives have always called themselves proudly a broad
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church? nigel farage says, well, it's all very well having a broad church, but you've got to be practising the same religion, you know, has it just become too broad and you can't unite the sort of left and right of the party? >> well, i think cameron did it. >> well, i think cameron did it. >> i think boris did it. they unhed >> i think boris did it. they united back. cameron got people from the, you know, the surrey's of this world to vote conservative. and places like harlow, which was one of the first blue collar seats when i won in 2010. but sunak hasn't unhed won in 2010. but sunak hasn't united the party. >> i think i think, you know, we can wax lyrical about cameron. you know, we got very thin majorities of cameron. i think we got a majority of 12 in 2015, 2010. we stuffed up and had to go into coalition. so it wasn't some magical dream world of united tories. and of course we had ukip and in the end he had to give a concession on the referendum. >> yeah, i'll tell you what. i'm just i'm going to bust in there just i'm going to bust in there just because we need to move your mic. kwasi so as we as we do that and have a little, a little bit of fiddle with that, let's cross over to the data
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centre and tom harwood. >> yes, that's right . we're >> yes, that's right. we're looking at the north east at the moment, perhaps where the most contiguous results have come in. and it's fascinating to have a look at how the reform party is doing, particularly in the north east. look at all of these second places. we're getting in blyth and ashington. reform second place, let's have a look at, gateshead central and whickham reform second place. and again in washington and gateshead south reform second place once more we've got bridget in houghton and sunderland south reform second place. so what we're looking at across all of these seats that have declared in the north east is a second place finish for reform. but perhaps what we're also seeing in the other seats that have declared, for example , that have declared, for example, down in swindon, is actually a less positive result for reform. this is where their latent support is. and what's that doing to the vote? share
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prediction that we're looking at? well, look at that 16.9. that's down a little bit for reform very high of course, compared to where most pollsters were. but down on the original projection from the exit poll. and how's this all going to play out? what are the next knock on effects? well, one seat to look at is basildon and billericay . at is basildon and billericay. thatis at is basildon and billericay. that is where the conservative party chairman, richard holden, is standing. it looks like there's a huge amount of consternation there at the moment, while we're waiting for that count to come in. actually, we were supposed to have that result by now, but we haven't got it yet. a strong reform vote there. probably not enough to take it, but nipping this into a three way marginal we're going to be looking at basildon in just a moment's time. it's one to watch because of course, richard holden was a north east mp. he moved to down basildon for this election and that might have thrown up some dust in that melee of different parties. >> okay, tom, thanks very much
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indeed. you two just made me laugh with that one mention of basildon and billericay and you're chomping at the bit. >> started sniggering. >> started sniggering. >> well, you know, but but but why is that? i mean, it's just one of the examples that characterises the campaign that we've seen over the last five weeks. and we laugh, but it's actually quite embarrassing. and actually, i think in terms of, you know, having the party chairman like insert himself in a completely different constituency, it makes a mockery of our politics and the fact he's had to spend all the time in his constituency defending his seat, you know, ultimately you know, we'll see what the result is this evening. and, and until that result comes out, we don't know. but it's a reflection. i think , of a party reflection. i think, of a party that, is just sort to insert itself. >> i think i think, look , it >> i think i think, look, it wasn't very edifying what went on. but before you get on your high horse. so it wasn't so long ago you guys were trying to get rid of diane abbott. and there was other labour people who've been parachuted into seats as well. so no one is an angel when it comes to selections. >> but there is a difference. this is the party chairperson. who the candidate who was themselves selected. i mean, there's difference with the
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people having diane abbott is the first black mp in an mp party, political , you know, but party, political, you know, but it's not the what happened with richard holden was a disgrace. >> okay . to be presented with >> okay. to be presented with one candidate, the local authorities presented one. can i remember tristram hunt even he had three candidates. yeah. parties have done this all the time. >> what are you saying then? kwasi op resolute. >> no, not that he deserves to lose. i want him to win. but the party should not. and i'm going to, you know, stick my neck out, and i'm not going to pretend that, you know, everything's rosy in our garden, because that should never happen again. but don't you think? be presenting. don't you think candidates? don't you think candidates? don't you think candidates? don't you think? although there's parties with one candidate, steve, i'm not sure people like the chicken run . people like the chicken run. >> it's not unusual for people who go in the chicken run to get a bad result. the problem here is that he did that, and he also appeared to do it in quite an underhand way , and that's why underhand way, and that's why he's been punished. >> i don't know what i'm sure that labour, you know, local parties are the same. if my
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local party had been presented with one candidate and no choice, they would have been up in arms. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> if my if my local party had been, if there'd been one candidate presented my local party, they wouldn't have helped in the. i doubt they would have helped. >> that's right. i mean, just to remind ourselves, the basildon and billericay , it's been held and billericay, it's been held by the conservatives with a very large majority since its 2010 creation, >> john baron, the tory grandee, departed the seat , left, richard departed the seat, left, richard holden fighting a 20,412 majority. if he does lose it , majority. if he does lose it, that's going to be quite something, isn't it? i mean, basildon and billericay, the absolute tory ville. >> but look, we've got 131 seats according to the, i mean , according to the, i mean, there'll be lots of seats like that that we'll have lost potentially. >> well wasn't it also that the, the existing candidate himself said he was fit enough to be the candidate and there was a big issue about how he was even removed to be the he said that was, i think, in scotland. >> right. >> right. >> so john baron had to step down last november. >> i think the issue was that the seat wanted to select last
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november when he stepped down and wasn't able to do so well. >> it'sjust, and wasn't able to do so well. >> it's just, you know, and wasn't able to do so well. >> it'sjust, you know, i mean, >> it's just, you know, i mean, the fact it's being discussed, the fact it's being discussed, the fact it's an issue just because it's that indication of chaos, look, i think but that's and whether that's indicative of the party or not, that's what people see. that's that's the opfics people see. that's that's the optics of it all. >> i think that was unfortunate. >> i think that was unfortunate. >> and he's the chairman, to be fair. >> that's a good point. to be fair. look, steve has made should he have been made chairman because richard holden, lovely chap. he used to be a special adviser. you know, he's a very young and inexperienced mp supporting a very young and inexperienced prime minister, surrounded by a team of very young and inexperienced people. your point is, there some point i'm making here? kwasi? i mean, you know, richard holden arguably should never have been party chairman for an election. this seminal and this important. >> look, look, look, we can we can talk about personnel. you know, it was a good guy. sorry. >> yeah. i mean, on the doorsteps, people weren't raising richard holden with me. what they were raising, as i say, liz , trust divided party say, liz, trust divided party and the cost of living. and of
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course, immigration. and so those are the things that we need to solve next time. >> next time around, have a good campaign. >> i mean, i know, i mean, and we also need to do more because we also need to do more because we actually did a lot of good things in 14 years. but we allowed labour to have the narrative that the last 14 years have been terrible. and yet there's many good things that have happened. >> can't get away from the fact that robert keeps criticising liz truss kwasi well, which which you were the key number two in that i was and i think, i think we made mistakes. >> i have to say from my point of view, this is what's going to happen to the party. they're going to blame everyone. i think everyone deserves blame the campaign we fought. i know robert's a great loyalist and i'm a loyalist for the campaign we fought. i'm also honest. i want to speak straightly. it was a disastrous campaign. we just it was a poor campaign. >> we're just seeing footage of liberal democrat leader sir ed davey greeting activists in his constituency of kingston. clearly, he's there preparing for his count. he seems to be having a good night after being at thorpe park on a big dipper , at thorpe park on a big dipper, going down a slip and slide, jumping in and out of lake windermere. i'm surprised he hasn't been fired into that
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count by canon. he's arrived there by the time he's arrived there. >> it's still time. yeah, there is time. >> and anyway, the count is going to be held there in kingston in due course. but he's looking very happy because the liberal democrats are projected by that exit poll to win 61 seats, which would be quite the revival . luciana berger, revival. luciana berger, wouldn't it? my goodness me, the labour party has rebuilt, the liberal democrat party has rebuilt from basically an existential crisis since the coalition destroyed its prospects. and now the tories have to do the same. >> well, i think what was particularly interesting for the liberal democrats of this election was that the i think all of their target seats were conservative. facing that , apart conservative. facing that, apart from perhaps one which is a three way marginal, parking, that one that all of them were tory facing and so interesting to see the liberal democrats take on the conservatives. that was their plan. they were very, very distinct to the campaign that they did in 2019, which was very, very different . and very, very different. and certainly they've been what looks like to be very successful in that campaign. >> do you think the campaign
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itself has been successful or are they just benefiting from the fact that so many people seem to be very anti—tory at the moment because i struggle with the disconnect between the stance followed by the serious interview, >> well, certainly from the liberal democrat candidates i know in those tory facing seats, they're very much rooted in their communities. they've been campaigning . the majority of campaigning. the majority of them actually were the candidates. the last election . candidates. the last election. so they've had that continuity. they mean, you know, during the last five years been working very hard in those constituencies. you know, that's what the liberal democrats tend to do. and certainly that will have reaped rewards. but certainly is indicative of a country that wants change. and so people at this election have looked to see who their alternative is, you know, is it alternative is, you know, is it a tory face? is it a liberal democrat facing opposition? is it a labour facing opposition? and people at this election are so fed up, they are so fed up with what has essentially reflected this government of the last five years, that they've looked to where they can affect that change and look to who's most effective to make that
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replacement. >> okay, we can go to charlie peters now, who is at that count in kingston, where sir ed davey, the liberal democrat leader, has just arrived. charlie >> hi there. yes, sir. ed davey , >> hi there. yes, sir. ed davey, just arriving in the last few minutes to applause from his liberal democrat supporters at the count here in chessington. and just as he arrived, we've had a lib dem source say that they believe they've won 47 seats, beating their 1997 result. they said this is an astonishing night for the liberal democrats. that update coming just half an hour after they released what they described as davies dozen 12 seats at the liberal democrats, are highly confident that they've picked up. i won't go through all of them, but a couple really stand out. it's yeovil in the west country and it's also very much looking at south cambridgeshire as a seat that the lib dems are very confident they've picked up, and i think that's a key part of this night for the liberal democrats is that they are , in democrats is that they are, in their perspective, succeeding in
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those blue wall seats. now, in previous general election campaigns, since they were decimated in 2015, the party has gone for a vote share strategy. but now, in 2024, they've targeted seats very specifically drawing their campaigning resources to areas where they felt they can have the biggest impact on the election outcome. that's meant a lot of campaigning in those home county seats, particularly conservative seats. and in the west country, where it seems they're picking up some results. they also think that they're going to pick up tunbridge wells, which hasn't had a liberal mp since 1906. so a significant night for the liberal democrats, rising from just the 11 seats they won at the last general election. exit poll says 61. they reckon 47. the declaration here is expected in the next couple of hours, but it's almost certain that sir ed davey has retained kingston and surbiton . we'll have to look at
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surbiton. we'll have to look at the wider trends for the liberal democrats, but it looks that for sure it will almost certainly be the third biggest party in parliament. clumsy. >> all right, charlie , thanks >> all right, charlie, thanks very much indeed. well, let's head to northern ireland. should we dougie beattie in belfast for us? you're going to keep us up to date, aren't you, dougie? with all the counts from northern ireland? >> well, i am indeed. and it's turning into actually quite a fascinating, fascinating election because as as i said, the last time i was on, i thought that alex easton, the independent in north down, would come through the middle of stephen farry, the sitting mp, and colonel tim collins for the ulster unionist party . colonel ulster unionist party. colonel tim collins has quite literally admitted defeat. he's heard of that and it's now down to a two horse race between the alliance party's only mp, stephen farry, and the independent alex easton. it is going to be very tight, but at this point you would if you were betting you would
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probably put your money on alex easton to take that seat, the alliance party are polling ahead of the dup currently in lagan valley. sirjeffrey of the dup currently in lagan valley. sir jeffrey donaldson's old seat. but once those boxes start coming in from the rural areas, away from the towns that may change because, of course, in every election when you sit and you do the tallies of the boxes coming out, some parties are polling very high in some areas, but then other parties areas, but then other parties are polling steadily through more areas. so it's very, very hard to figure that out. we are heanng hard to figure that out. we are hearing that the vote is down in fermanagh, south tyrone. sinn fein's vote going down there. there was boundary changes there last year, and that should help sinn fein hold that seat. we'll see if that actually happens. the last time that did happen in that area was in 2010. there's been problems in there over immigration coming across from the south that has their own
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problems in the south of ireland and east belfast. this is gavin robinson, the mp who is the leader of the dup, is really going neck and neck at this minute in time with the leader of the alliance party, naomi long. we're also hearing that the dup could probably lose a seat in south antrim and foyle at this minute in time. seat in south antrim and foyle at this minute in time . is also at this minute in time. is also looking very tight and this is because the tuv reform sister party has stood in these areas. and what has actually happened, it has split the votes two ways and then you have the ulster unionist party in it. it's three ways. so you have an area that has a huge majority of unionism, but because they've split the vote, the alliance party is sneaking in between my pick of the night, though, i think would have to be south down. it's a battle i'm watching there between sinn fein and the sdlp. it was very close. the last time and if that seat follows the
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trends of the rest of the night with sinn fein's vote being down, that could well go to the sdlp and they would see three mps returned to westminster south. >> okay, i'll try and pick. south. >> okay, i'll try and pick . all right. >> lovely, dougie. thanks very much indeed. we're just, crunching through the details. we've got here, south shields actually is the one i wanted to go is the one i want to go to first, because we haven't got the cramlington and killingworth details to hand. if you've got it on the graphic, you can pull it on the graphic, you can pull it up, but we can't see much of the detail from here. >> labour 22,274. conservatives 9454. so sorry. so actually , no, 9454. so sorry. so actually, no, we've got reform in second place i love it how this is. this is difficult because the graphic has come up and the people in the gallery think that we have got more than 2020 vision. yes. no. >> so we'll come back to that. we'll try and get what what we
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have got is south shields where, labour have won with 15,122 again. reform coming in second with 8469. let's head to, let's head to patrick and michelle who are in essex at our watch party, where i mean, it's fascinating you too, isn't it, that in a lot of these seats, reform coming in pretty strong here in essex, hasn't it? >> it certainly has. there's a lot of sweaty and hot people here. right now. why? because we have just been getting on down to elvis presley. i know , i to elvis presley. i know, i know, it's all about the election results and we're on it as well. but i've got to say, we're multitasking. >> we are indeed. what did everyone make of elvis way ? everyone make of elvis way? >> hold on elvis, he's still on the stage. look, he's still he's going to give us one more song. >> yeah, one more song in a bit. one more song in a bit. all right. okay. so let's earth ourselves, shall we? forjust a moment in the actual general election. so there's a chap here
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who has come from a place that i'm going to try to pronounce. where is that place? >> somewhere . paul coyte andrew >> somewhere. paul coyte andrew doyle shawn seesahai coco gauff . doyle shawn seesahai coco gauff. >> oh, what's the short version? >> oh, what's the short version? >> well, i'd just like to. i'd just like to say at home, in case you're wondering how it's spelt, it's spelt the usual way. okay, so we'll go on. we'll say that again. >> sandie vara paul coyte joel cauchi . winthrop. cod—zilla coco gauff. >> right. lovely stuff. so i think that's wales, isn't it? and how do you how do you vote? because you've got a bit of an interesting backstory in terms of your political journey, haven't you. >> yes, i've voted for plaid cymru all my life and since i moved to stoke on trent seven years ago, i could. i didn't vote last last election because i was disillusioned with all the politics. but this year nigel farage has come big and strong and he's making britain proud. and that's why i voted for today. all right .
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all right. >> well, there's quite a lot of that in this room. should we go for a walk? >> should we go for a walk and see what's going on? >> well, let's not walk very far just for now, because there's a chap here who's had a bottle of moet on ice. oh yes. >> what was i thinking walking away from that? what's wrong with me? >> that's. michelle hasn't walked away from a bottle of my way all night, actually. very, very good point. >> i didn't see it there, everyone. >> so why have you got that? there >> it's the first big event for you guys. and he's he's going to win tonight . and you can only be win tonight. and you can only be won once . and i think the first won once. and i think the first person to qualify should do it right. the other the other thing i think there's a lot of importance in this. i had the conversation with the chaps at the conservative party up the road. the wheels would fall off. they just no longer in existence. they gone. you've got somebody from billy smart's circle in charge of the liberal party. you've got a labour party which is giving no policies
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whatsoever. and the bottom line is that if nigel didn't win tonight, we're all snookered, right? it totally depends on him winning tonight. if he does, if nigel wins tonight, this movement will grow through the roof all over the country. if he doesn't win, then obviously it would be very odd for everybody. >> well, you know we have seen some results. so can we just come over here? this was my first person that told me that he'd voted labour. so things have been getting quite good for you guys. how are you feeling , you guys. how are you feeling, >> well i was a conservative out of breath because of elvis, but the election. well, well, i was a conservative for many, many years . i a conservative for many, many years. i know a conservative for many, many years . i know i a conservative for many, many years. i know i maybe a conservative for many, many years . i know i maybe should years. i know i maybe should have judged it on more than this to vote labour, but i think the conservatives are dumb. i think that's it. i think they're over. i think they've had their last chance.i i think they've had their last chance. i think labour's got one more chance. >> well, i've got to say credit where it's due is being a fantastic night for labour. they
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are absolutely smashing it out of the park. >> yes . but so did of the park. >> yes. but so did the conservatives. less than five years ago. if the next five years ago. if the next five years if they don't, if keir starmer doesn't take note of what we're all crying out for, and that is major change. if keir starmer doesn't take note of that, the labour party could very quickly find themselves in exactly the same situation as the conservatives. and then it probably it it's going to be it could be nigel. let's face it. and next time i will probably vote for him. if the labour don't take note of what we are crying out for. don't take note of what we are crying out for . change. crying out for. change. >> well, keir starmer, if you're listening, there's tough talk here. people want action. they want the change. i've got patrick waving over to me like i don't know what he's got something to tell us. >> well, no . well, i just >> well, no. well, i just thought i would branch things out. so we are all having an absolutely brilliant time here. there's a lady here whose birthday it is as well. so thank you very much for giving up your birthday for us, everybody. we give her a big round of
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applause. yayi brilliant absolutely love to see it . and a absolutely love to see it. and a man with the loudest shirt in television. so loud, so loud. people can hear it from miles away. yeah, brilliant. and what do you make of what we've seen so far tonight? how do you think it's going? because there's a lot of very happy people in this room that it appears that reform have maybe outperformed things. but the fact is, you know, we are going to see, by the looks of it, a massive labour majority . of it, a massive labour majority. you just don't seem to care that much about them. >> i don't care about the labour majority. i think the truth is labour haven't attracted any new voters at all. their vote's going down so they've won the election almost by default. so i think, you know, there's a lot to be really positive about. if we can get through the next 3 or 4 years of hell, there's an awful lot to be positive about. >> dare i ask what what hell looks like for you? what could it be? because, you know, we could have votes for 16 year olds. you might have, you know, higher tax. the lib dems have done quite well as well. are we going to end up with a closer relationship with the european union? are you not worried about any of these things?
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>> no. hell, for me, if i'm absolutely honest with you, if you're a woman or if you're a family with children, it's beyond me. why you would vote labouh beyond me. why you would vote labour. i think they're they're honestly people in that category, which is about 80% of the people in the country are going to really feel it. and i think the regret is going to be enormous. in about a month's time. >> okay. all right. i wonder , >> okay. all right. i wonder, michelle, whether or not as well this is something that people think they have to go through a bit. maybe after 14 years of conservative rule, some people maybe need to feel what a socialist government might look like in order to not do it again. for some people , possibly. >> but at the end of the day, i've been talking to a lot of people tonight, and one of the key themes that i've picked up is that people they do just want change. something has to change. something has to give someone's booing what i'm saying, who's that booing ? who's that booing? that booing? who's that booing? me saying that i want it. who is it ? it? >> michelle's on the warpath. i'm gonna hunt wall down and i'm going to find out who it is. >> hang on. okay all right.
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patrick, who was it ? hey, i hope patrick, who was it? hey, i hope he won. elvis. that'd be awkward, wouldn't it? hang on. who was it that was disagreeing with me ? how dare you, elvis? with me? how dare you, elvis? i know, but we love elvis . i don't know, but we love elvis. i don't mind him. it was someone over here who disagrees. when i was saying that people want change. look, they've all gone quiet now. they're all looking the other way. they're texting on. they're doing sudoku and everything. they don't want to tell me it was. i definitely heard someone disagreeing with me. >> well, there you go. all right. and yeah, i'm just going to branch out a little bit here. oh, no. i'm not. we're being told i've got to go back to paddington. i think we're going to get more results through in just a moment or two. so i think we just asked for elvis. one more song. one more song, one more soi'ig. one more soi'ig, one more soi'ig. one more soi'ig, one more soi'ig, more sohg. one more sohg, one more sohg, one more sohg, one more sohg, one more sohg, one more soi'ig . more sohg. >> more song. >> unfortunately, we can't bring you elvis with, with that , we'll you elvis with, with that, we'll have to leave that to the delightful people there in essex instead. what more do you need? we've got, former chancellor of the exchequer, kwasi kwarteng. we were actually for a song. kwasi former conservative minister robert halfon , former
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minister robert halfon, former labour shadow minister luciana berger and lib dem, former lib dem party chairman mark oaten. good to see you both and we're just getting news through harrogate and knaresborough. lib dems taking that from the conservatives. mark that's good news. >> i mean it was one of the ones we thought would happen. >> it's a key seat. >> it's a key seat. >> it was and it was one of the ones we thought would happen early on in the evening. as well. so i think we're on track. i mean, the party's been talking about 46, 47. i would be a little bit disappointed with that. i'm i'm more in the 60 plus range myself. why are they underplaying the exit poll then? >> is it expectation management or you know, classically there's a lot of seats out there that are very , very knife edge. are very, very knife edge. >> now, if they fall on the right side of that, we could be in the 70s. if they fall on the wrong side of that, it could be in the 40s. so i'm more optimistic. i think it's going to fall on the right side, but they want to see a little bit more from the verifications coming through. >> interestingly, party sources have told the press association that they're confident that they've unseated the education secretary, gillian keegan, in chichester, which would be quite
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significant. i appreciate you had harrogate and knaresborough on your list, maybe even somewhere like torbay. you want to get stratford on avon, epsom and ewell, those sorts of places. but chichester, i mean keegan would be a big scalp . keegan would be a big scalp. >> yes, i think it would be a great shame. i mean , she's a great shame. i mean, she's a good colleague. she was popular , good colleague. she was popular, very successful, good at what she did . she did. >> i must stress, it's only rumours. we haven't got that confirmed. but that's what the lib dems would like to pay tribute to andrew jones, i mean, harrogate, he was a very. >> i mean, i used to lovely guy work with him in government and he was a really, really fastidious, hard working, friendly, friendly guy. and it's a shame he's lost. >> i mean, gillian was my boss when i was an education skills minister and be really sad if we if we lose someone of her calibre if that has, if she has gone 21,500 majority. >> i mean that should be a rock solid, safe seat. yeah. >> well, we've lost, you know, if the exit polls are right, we'll have lost 200 seats. yes. so of those 200 seats odds, there'll be some which were very
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safe. >> well, we're still waiting for the result in basildon and billericay. we've spoken about that. richard holden, other tory big beasts that we will be heanng big beasts that we will be hearing the result of their seats over the course of the next hour or two, include, of course, the chancellor, jeremy hunt , who's course, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, who's under pressure from the liberal democrats in godalming , and ash, which is godalming, and ash, which is a new constituency, we'll also be heanng new constituency, we'll also be hearing about alex chalk. he's under pressure . indeed. his under pressure. indeed. his majority is only 981. that's the justice secretary. and there's lots more results still to come. but, mark, i suppose sir davey, i mean, has managed to restore the liberal democrats from the ashes of its post coalition near wipe—out. >> yeah , i mean, this has >> yeah, i mean, this has bounced back big time. obviously, a lot of mps you're talking about colleagues that lost their seats. a lot of lib dem mps were wiped out as well. on the back of the coalition. i think the distant memory is getting further. i think it's a chance for the party to bounce back. there's been a lot of
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controversy about whether ed was right to have the stunts and the campaign. i think i was a bit unsure at the start, but actually i think these results vindicate the approach. he got, the coverage he showed he was a human being and against the rather wooden starmer and sunak. i think it was refreshing to see a politician say, look, i can have some fun, but i can also talk serious politics. it appears that that strategy has worked, has it though? >> i mean, i keep i keep putting this forward all through the night. is that is it a strategy that's worked, or is it just people saying, fed up with the conservatives, we're going to for vote the, you know, the next closest party, which in a lot of these cases is the lib dems. >> well, look, if you think the party is going to poll, maybe 9 or 10% across the country, clearly the strategy has worked, because if we're going to get 60 plus seats, that is way above what you'd expect on a national polling of ten. so by focusing very hard on those seats, by having ed run this high profile campaign, that combination of the air war and a very targeted ground war, i think has worked. >> luciano, would you say that
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labour have run a good campaign? i mean, we haven't really heard much substance beyond the soundee much substance beyond the soundbite of change. keir starmer's been described as somebody carrying a ming vase very carefully, sort of through the country, making sure he doesn't make any mistakes, not necessarily nailing any colours to the mast, certainly saying who you wouldn't tax but not who you would. that caution is that played in his favour. do you think ? think? >> i think i wouldn't accept that characterisation of this campaign. what labour has put out and interestingly, you know, that launched, you know, to big fanfare what became the week before the general election was the five missions and actually labour's five missions do speak to the country, whether it's people's concerns around the nhs, the growth they want to see in the economy, people's concerns rightly about anti—social behaviour in our streets and why they want to see more police. certainly all of these issues were coming up on these issues were coming up on the doorstep today, so labour party did a big effort. i think, to turn the party around under the leadership of keir starmer . the leadership of keir starmer. we've seen that transformation. but it wasn't just a transformation from within. it
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was an offer to the country. and that's what we've seen, >> just a little bit of breaking news that the tories have held rayleigh and wickford. that's brexit spartan. mark francois, if you had lost your way, rayleigh and wickford , you'd be rayleigh and wickford, you'd be in massive trouble. >> his majority last time, i think he was £31, definitely started with a three. >> we'll look it up. it did start with a three. that would have been extraordinary . so have been extraordinary. so that's the very much a right wing mp left from what is left of the conservative party. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it's a very traditional tory seat. i'm very happy for mark that he's he's done it. he's quite a character and a half and you know i'm very pleased for him. but you know you've got other seats where you've got strong eurosceptic mps which sadly i don't think they're going to keep their seats from what the exit polls are showing. so it does show that essex still in some places, still staunch conservative, which is a little bit encouraging despite what may happenin bit encouraging despite what may happen in clacton, labour have taken stroud. >> wow . >> wow. >> wow. >> yeah, that doesn't surprise me. i mean, it was always i think they had it up until it
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was a marginal seat. >> i think james had it. she was then siobhan baillie i think was. >> yeah. siobhan again, a good mp, but , you know, the swing mp, but, you know, the swing when it happens, it takes is pretty indiscriminate. yeah. >> all right, from that, let's head up to scotland. should we just want to take you to glasgow? our scotland reporter, tony mcguire is there where there's been a bit of controversy. tony >> yeah. good morning. ehm, certainly just before midnight, we had reports that the police had arrived here at the emirates arena in glasgow, where they seized multiple voter papers, as part of an investigation into suspected voter fraud. now, it's believed that two from glasgow's southwest and one from glasgow west were taken in, bagged as evidence by the police . and they evidence by the police. and they were going to look into this matter further. now, just before i came on there, there a little
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conversation with glasgow city council and the guy here who was talking to, he was saying that, you know, this isn't his first election count and this is something that does happen. now, typically it's a case of john smith senior, picking up the voting paper accidentally for john smith junior. and similar mundane scenarios. however the fact that the police have taken these bags as evidence and then taken them away suggests that perhaps they're looking at this case a little more seriously . case a little more seriously. however, the voting the votes themselves are still going to get added to the total tally . get added to the total tally. however, the papers will get taken away and i guess this now becomes a police matter until it isn't. and we're expecting, i guess, to hear a little more about that over the next few days. but here this morning in glasgow, we've already started to have a few of the voter turnouts, which are quite interesting , certainly about interesting, certainly about 51.59 in glasgow east, 47.06 and
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glasgow north east still to get those turnouts, of course , for those turnouts, of course, for glasgow west and glasgow southwest, it does seem that you those voting tables where they were doing the count. sorry, the counting tables seem to grind to a little bit of a halt for a short while , while those scenes short while, while those scenes unfolded earlier on. there is still something of a police presence here, though. i believe thatis presence here, though. i believe that is very much typical. but it still remains to be seen what becomes of this. certainly the candidates themselves for glasgow west and glasgow southwest . well, they were taken southwest. well, they were taken together into a side room and explained the ins and outs of it. but as far as we know it's business as usual. now back to the drawing board . counting the the drawing board. counting the fluttering of papers has continued as we marched to where we think the first declaration in about an hour's time or just in about an hour's time orjust oveh in about an hour's time orjust over, no one would have done anything. >> no one would do anything. >> no one would do anything. >> lovely, tony. thanks very much indeed. and he's going to bnng much indeed. and he's going to bring us up to date with
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everything on that. of course, as and when things develop , as and when things develop, >> labour have held, won or held nuneaton and stroud gained nuneaton and stroud gained nuneaton and stroud just to go back over those rayleigh and wickford numbers, because we were saying that mark francois, the tory has got a well did have a 31,000 majority back in 2019 that's now been reduced to 5621. so that's a 35.9% drop. second place reform on 12,135. so that once absolutely rock solid tory seatis once absolutely rock solid tory seat is now only got a 5000 majority because reform has massively eaten into the conservative vote share there. >> but the thing that nigel farage always says, and it's true, is that our majorities in 2019 and a lot of seats like mine , were flattered by the fact mine, were flattered by the fact we didn't have a brexit candidate . candidate. >> so last time there were four candidates and we didn't have ukip or reform on the ballot. and that's why nigel farage has been very upset with the
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conservatives, because he felt that he didn't get anything in return. so by the mere fact that these people are now on the ballot, they're going to take a ton of votes from us. >> but are they also going to take some mps, i wondered, and they're going to be defections to reform tonight, do you think? i think so, yeah. >> i mean, i think what's fascinating for me is if you look at that particular result, how do those two groupings make peace with this? that result is a really good example of how difficult it is going to be for the conservative party to pull itself together. they made peace in 2019. >> that's the point i'm making in 2019. he stood down and we got that helped us, frankly, get the majority. >> well, he believed boris johnson when he said that he would deliver on all of the manifesto, but he's made it clear he wants to destroy the tory party. >> so i just moved on. i mean, i very much hope people, you know, from our party don't defect. i think people should wait till the dust to settle and see who gets elected. >> there might be defections, mightn't there? >> what now? i think it's a bit late. yeah. >> okay, let's have a look at ashfield. should we, lee anderson, we can sit there he is. just. just catch him having a wander about now. of course. lee defected to reform. will he
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hold on to that? i mean, i mean, with a with the way that the exit poll is looking at the moment, you would imagine that that would mean a shoo in for lee anderson as a as a elected reform candidate, rather than someone who crossed the floor as it were, i don't know what time we're expecting that result, actually, but it's he's there. so it's you imagine within the next hour or so, but we'll bring you that, of course. well, that's lee wondering what's going on. >> 5733 so, of course, reform will hope in a good night he'll be able to at least double that if he has one. but we'll come back to that in a bit. no, sorry. we were just talking about possible reform defections. lee anderson's expected a bit later on. actually. he's got a long night ahead of him because it's not until 430 that count. the next count of significance, by the way, that we will hear, i think will be richard holden in basildon and billericay. we're holding out for that because it's normally one of the early ones. it was due around 1 am, apparently , according to chopper
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apparently, according to chopper christopher hope, a gb news political editor, there's only about 20 seats in it, so it may have been recounted. it's being closely monitored over there for the party chairman. we're going to go there as soon as we can. and if we have news, we will. but sorry, just on reform, i mean, we've had this language from the former home secretary, suella braverman about, you know , suella braverman about, you know, reaching out to nigel farage. at one point, nigel farage suggested she was proposing marriage. isn't she precisely the kind of tory that could end up in the hands of reform? or do both sides have to come to some agreement to pool resources in a kind of like post canada conservative apocalypse way? >> well, i think i sort of just paraphrase what david davis said. if someone wants to burn your house down, you don't, then don't say, well, you know, come into what? come into what remains. i mean, i don't think thatis remains. i mean, i don't think that is the answer. look, i want a reunification of the right. absolutely. but as i said earlier on in this discussion, we have to reach out to those millions of voters who voted liberal, who voted labour, who are not labour or liberal
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activists, but they are floating voters, many of them have become my kind of constituents who who weren't able to vote for us this time. and so you have to find some way of fusing both different, kind of voters together. but if you just go one way or the other, that is the way or the other, that is the way for that we will never succeed. >> so i agree with robert. i think you can't just do one without trying to reach out to the centre as well. you can't just move to the right and think that's enough. at the same time, if you move to the centre, you've got 6 million voters who voted reform. >> thank you very much. you've got to. >> the fact is, the majority of the country are floating voters. but you see the and so they're not necessarily centrist either. i mean, when we say centre we've got to be clear what we mean. >> you add up both of the counts for conservatives and reform. then often you're going to see bigger numbers. so, you know, this is the thing about this vote share. luciana and mark, you know , it's not indicative you know, it's not indicative necessarily if keir starmer ends up on 36, 37% of the vote that the whole country has swung to the whole country has swung to
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the left. what we're seeing with the left. what we're seeing with the surge of reform and indeed conservatives may be in third, is that actually the country is still, as is ever the case, split down the middle between right and left. >> and i mean, i think one of the things that will be talked about a great deal the next few weeks, particularly by reform and the lib dems, is change the voting system because you're trying to you're trying to fit all of these different views into a voting system which doesn't allow them to happen. and ironically, it might actually help the conservative party to realign in some way if the voting system was different, then there could be two different parties. maybe emerging. i can see actually some moderate conservatives even coming to the lib dems, because if the conservatives go in the wrong direction, where is your kind of michael heseltine, david cameron, conservative going to go ? i don't think they'll go to go? i don't think they'll go to labouh go? i don't think they'll go to labour. they may actually come to the lib dems. >> all right, we're just hearing that, labour have gained darlington holding knowsley . are darlington holding knowsley. are not holding their nose holding nose and all of that one. let's get full analysis for you from our political editor who's
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standing by in camden, actually, where sir keir starmer is standing for his holborn and saint pancras seat, chris, what do you make of what we're seeing so far? i mean, and particularly with the reform vote out there, the reform share , which is, you the reform share, which is, you know, pretty big, it has to be said, bigger than perhaps some expected . expected. >> yeah, but some some not being nigel farage, who did say that they were going to win 6 million seats to us on gb news, on wednesday, not on wednesday. now, of course, in the early hours of friday morning . but hours of friday morning. but yeah, no question in the very in the north of the country it looks like they are pushing the tories into third place in the midlands. the tories are stronger, but no question causing real damage . we're causing real damage. we're watching quite a tense, vote happening in billericay and basildon, where apparently there are 20 votes in it. this seat is an important one. it's totemic. it's the seat being fought by the party chairman, richard
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holden, the tory party chairman. the majority by by held by john baron, the previous mp there. the tory party was over 20,000. a big row there of course, because richard holden was dropped into that seat with, with no with no other candidates to fight against him, he was given it given it essentially 48 hours before the end of nominations. so if the tories lose that and their party, the chairman loses his seat, that's a real blow at the start of this, of the other results start to come in quite rapidly. elsewhere, the lib dems are saying 47 mps, they think they guaranteed, of course, the pole, the exit poll says 61. so more than that. but we'll be hearing from the result here in camden for sir keir starmer around around 3 am. the counting in his seat in holborn, saint pancras, has just started . pancras, has just started. >> labour seats. >> labour seats. >> yeah. not knowsley. sorry >> yeah. not knowsley. sorry >> okay , chris, thanks very much indeed. >> shall we just look at that darlington result? because labour have won that seat with 16,621. that's a majority of
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2200 odd. they've beaten the conservative by that amount. but i note that the reform uk vote is 6852. so you could argue that thatis is 6852. so you could argue that that is an example of a seat that is an example of a seat that the conservatives have lost to labour, because reform have stood so reform they're in third place in darlington, that of course, was a conservative gain in 2019, from labour because of the boris johnson and jeremy corbyn factor. that's interesting . interesting. >> yeah, it is, but that, matt goodwin's here by the way, joins us. welcome back. that doesn't seem to be the case for the majority of seats, though, that we've seen so far. even when you're at i mean, i know a lot of them are in the north east andifs of them are in the north east and it's a lot of them are labour strongholds, traditionally. but even when you're adding up the tory and the reform vote, it's still putting labour ahead. >> sure. but we know in the national polls going into this election, reform were winning around about a third of the 2019
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conservative vote. and that is especially true in seats where the conservatives did very well in 2019, and now their vote is collapsing . so where the collapsing. so where the conservative support is going down, strongest reform are doing particularly well. are becoming often the main opposition to labour across the red wall, the northern heartlands as as indeed was apparent, you know, with the rise of ukip, the vote for brexit, the rise of the brexit party and boris johnson's election in 2019. so the conservatives have got a real dilemma on their hands. you know, they they can either keep ignonng know, they they can either keep ignoring the concerns driving those voters. immigration is the big one, or they can try and engage with those voters and address their concerns. i mean, the interesting thing , luciano, the interesting thing, luciano, is that labour have won that seat with fewer votes than they lost the seat last time round , lost the seat last time round, so they have got 17,600 seats but lost last time around . but lost last time around. >> and now they've won with 16,621. so 39.2% vote share. so
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again the effect of reform, whether it's pushing the conservatives into third place or it's in third place itself, is having an impact, not just on the conservatives vote share, but also labour's. >> and obviously we'll see as what happens as the night evolves in terms of other results. this is just a few of them, but it's obvious to me that, i mean, i'm old enough just to remember the 1983 election and there, i mean, off the top of my head, i think margaret thatcher got about 43, and the sdp and labour got about 26, 28, something like that, and they were split. >> we've got 144 majority. it was a great majority, a similar thing is happening now. you've got a right centre right vote that's essentially split between the conservatives and reform to a certain extent . and labour are a certain extent. and labour are getting a huge majority on 36% of the vote. >> okay, yeah. >> okay, yeah. >> well, it's all interesting stuff with this number crunching is going to go on for quite some time, we can tell you. but this is gb news your election channel. it's two in the
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morning. >> live across the united kingdom. this is gb news vote 2024. the people decide . we're 2024. the people decide. we're live across the united kingdom. >> this is gb news britain's election channel. i'm camilla tominey i'm stephen dixon. >> we're four hours now into our 2024 election coverage in about half an hour. we're expecting the count in labour leader sir keir starmer's seat. that's holborn and saint pancras. and of course we'll bring you that result as it happens. >> liberal democrat candidate tom gordon has won harrogate and knaresborough. here's what the former party chairman, mark oaten, told us a moment ago. >> that's good news. i mean, it was one of the ones we thought would happen. >> it's a key seat. >> it's a key seat. >> it was and it was one of the ones we thought would happen early on in the evening. as well. >> well, the tories have held their seat in rayleigh and
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