morning. >> live across the united kingdom. this is gb news vote 2024. the people decide . we're 2024. the people decide. we're live across the united kingdom. >> this is gb news britain's election channel. i'm camilla tominey i'm stephen dixon. >> we're four hours now into our 2024 election coverage in about half an hour. we're expecting the count in labour leader sir keir starmer's seat. that's holborn and saint pancras. and of course we'll bring you that result as it happens. >> liberal democrat candidate tom gordon has won harrogate and knaresborough. here's what the former party chairman, mark oaten, told us a moment ago. >> that's good news. i mean, it was one of the ones we thought would happen. >> it's a key seat. >> it's a key seat. >> it was and it was one of the ones we thought would happen early on in the evening. as well. >> well, the tories have held their seat in rayleigh and

wickford for mark francois, but of course he's actually had his majority absolutely slashed there. and for those of you who are just tuning in, where have you been? the exit poll predicted the following . labour predicted the following. labour to win 410 seats. conservatives down to 131. that gives labour a 170 seat majority. lib dems could have 61 reform 13. the snp down to ten seats. >> here's what former tory chancellor, member of our panel, kwasi kwarteng, said in his initial reaction it's not a good result, it's a very bad result, >> it's a disastrous result, but it's not extinction level and our very own political editor, christopher hope, told us reform uk could be putting pressure on the shadow home secretary yvette cooper. coopen >> reform is also eating quite closely into labour's support in the north. yvette cooper is under pressure in pontefract,

castleford and knottingley . castleford and knottingley. >> and for a little bit of levity , richmond and levity, richmond and northallerton candidate count binface , standing against prime binface, standing against prime minister rishi sunak, was spotted at the count earlier, having had a chat with my telegraph colleague tim stanley . telegraph colleague tim stanley. >> there you go. this is gb news. britain's election . channel. >> well, let's cross to our gb news watch party now in essex, where patrick christys and michelle dewberry are having lots of fun. >> okay. yes. welcome back to the gb news election watch party. are we all just about holding up in here? are we just. oh, okay. there we go . well, oh, okay. there we go. well, people are clinging on. it's unlike gillian keegan of the conservatives, who we believe has lost her seat. >> and she has in fact, actually, she lost a seat that had been held by the tories in every election since 1924. what

do you say to that? >> i think that shows you how deep the shock is going to be for the party. matthew laza is rubbing his back and you may have to do a number of times tonight. matthew. my pleasure. there's no way i said it all night long. you can't sugarcoat this. there's been a drastic loss for the party. the important thing now is that we hold on to some good mps, that we have a real soul search to build back. let's be clear. if the, exit poll is correct, this would be the second greatest loss we've had. and why i draw some comfort from that is because we built back from the from an even bigger loss in the past. >> okay. all right. now i'm joined by a lady here who's been an absolute stalwart. you've been with us from the start in this audience. and just while we're talking about gillian keegan, i know that you are quite concerned about the future of education in britain under laboun of education in britain under labour, aren't you? >> yes , definitely, we're down >> yes, definitely, we're down in the south east and our schools are just completely overcrowded. we've got people coming into the area that can't get their kids into schools, so they're having to home school. i

know somebody whose kid has not beenin know somebody whose kid has not been in school for six months already , and friends that have already, and friends that have children in private schools as well. they're having to pull them out because they can't afford the increases, but there's nowhere for them to go. so you've got regular kids coming to the area or regular families coming to the area, nowhere to go. and now the private schools being emptied in our area. >> okay. well, matthew , as the >> okay. well, matthew, as the as the labour voice here, you know, how does keir starmer deal with this? now this is a real life problem. yeah. >> well look, i know some people are worried about the private schools vat on private school fees, which is one of labour's pledges. but that's to pay for more teachers in state schools, which 93% of kids go to so that there are i mean, as you say, class sizes is a real issue in communities across the country. so yeah, it is a tough choice. but it's because it's one that labour's going to make to get extra teachers into our schools. >> come off it . it extra teachers into our schools. >> come off it. it is extra teachers into our schools. >> come off it . it is politics >> come off it. it is politics of envy. it is. you are doing that to punish people that have got aspiration . got aspiration. >> we're doing that to michelle.

we're doing come on, we're doing it to get we're doing it to get more to get more teachers into state schools, to get class sizes down. >> but when are you going to get them? >> so i think what labour will do is, is, is there have been hints at this in the campaign is you're absolutely right. there's obviously a lag time in terms of recruiting teachers. so i think that the vat on private schools will be delayed, so that you can start recruiting more teachers into schools and then that will pay into schools and then that will pay for it. >> when it comes to 6500. >> when it comes to 6500. >> aren't going to cut it though, aren't they? are they? >> well, it's a start. i mean but it's we clearly need more teachers in schools across the country. and we've seen under the tories with austerity and the tories with austerity and the 15 years they've actually neglected education and spent money. sean it's two things i'd say if you look at the sweep of education over the last 15, 20 years, our children do considerably better than they did before that point. >> but the most important thing is, it isn't the class sizes that are making it hard to recruit teachers. it's pay, it's conditions, and the only way labour can change that is if they raise taxes, which is something they pledge to not do.

>> we can get the economy growing, and rather than the anaemic growth we've got at the moment, >> darren, let's talk about the lib dems as well, because harrogate that's gone to the lib dems. how well do you think they're faring? >> i mean they are having a really good night and i well i mean i don't know how to be quite honest because that campaign seemed to just be full of ed davey trying to get it is extraordinary by making himself look a complete wally. i think it's very safe to say. but on that point, you know, about saying that we need more teachers and things like that. well, all of the parties have been talking about that , been talking about that, michelle, but none of them actually have a plan to reduce net migration in this country. guess what? you need. if you've got more migration in britain, you need more public services, including teachers. that i just don't understand. that's why we that's why. >> i mean, i agree with you, darren, in the sense that we have record migration, legal and illegal under the tories , illegal under the tories, significantly higher than it was under labour. even when you had free movement . so although free movement. so although labour hasn't put a figure on it, labour's aim is to get migration down. >> but they've only failed to

get it down. >> but the challenge is, let's be clear, the government definitely could have done better on migration. but let's better on migration. but let's be clear, labour have supported it. labour have been one of the real reasons the government haven't succeeded, because they've fought every change. every change. yeah, but every change the government tries to make in the first few days of the government. matthew, i only make the point every change the government tried to make, labour fought them on it, which let's you know what labour are going to do when they don't have to fight on it. >> look, i don't want to be rude to either of you, but it's going to either of you, but it's going to be rude. >> no, i'm not. >> i'm not going to be rude. i've been practising. we know what's polite all night long. but at the end of the day, the surge that you're seeing in parties like reform is primarily because both of you guys, none of you are committed to michelle. >> i think that's a huge test for the labour government. yes, i think that clearly the fact that reform have done on day one, you're going to rip up the rwanda plan. >> yeah, but on day one, we're going to introduce anti—terror legislation against the criminal gangs because as patrick will will know, smashing smashing the gangs as our number one priority to stop people coming to these shores.

>> as he says on my show, at least at least once a week, it makes no difference if i here smash the gangs one more time from a labour person. >> so what does smash the gangs mean? >> it means in using anti—terror legislation on day one, because at the moment we don't do that. it means bringing together the security services and other officials so that we actually have concerted effort and we have concerted effort and we have a new cross border police force because we want to stop people ever getting here. we need to get the numbers of people down. the small boats crisis is a disgrace. and the tories, i say somewhere where i'm affected by it, they stop the boats. >> can i just ask this lady and then i'll come to you? sure. how are you affected by the small boats crisis in our town? >> our hotels are full of illegal migrants and the crime levels have gone up. our kids aren't safe. there's again school spaces. the amount of money that's going from our council to providing facilities for them. and i actually know somebody who works in one of the centres. they're getting brand new iphones and prams and

everything provided for their children, kitted out in latest training hotels. and then, yeah, you know , we've got the people you know, we've got the people that live in our town for years and years and years that have got nothing. i feel like the priorities are wrong. yeah, it is completely okay. >> and sean, you know, that has happened under the tories hasn't it? >> look, i won't sit here and make excuses for people's immigration policies. i will say this though, traditionally labour have had a real problem with immigration internally as a conversation and externally what they'll actually do. keir starmers plan. i hope it works, but it won't , because unless you but it won't, because unless you have an international relationship , unless you can relationship, unless you can have a relationship with a government from which these people are coming, the country there, you will have no effect on them once they arrive here. >> but hold on, because illegal migration is a small but very visual part of the problem. legal migration. you guys have lost control and then some. >> and yes, you're correct, but that's why i make the point that i. i will be very impressed to see keir starmer tell the labour party he's going to cut immigration legally with those

people. they've never done it before. it's a real pain point for the labour party. >> it will be under labour than it is under the tories. >> yeah, but that's because it was lower around the world. this is a different time of a different situation. >> and one thing is about getting british workers into jobs. it's about reskilling british workers. people have been saying that to labour concentration on skills. so it's not just about the people who go to university, but it's about the other half of young people who frankly, all parties have written off too often and who need to be concentrated on. so we don't brookside is it any surprise to you, to darren, see that the support for right wing parties, specifically reform amongst those kind of 16 to 20 year olds, they are the second most popular party after labour. >> i think a lot of people might have thought that for a lot of 16 year olds, that might be things like the lib dems or the greens, for example. but it doesn't appear to be that. it doesn't appear to be that. it does appear that reform is the second most popular party with 16 to 20 year olds. >> i mean, why would it not be when you look at the fact that a young person today would look at their life chances in the not too distant future and conclude that they are going to be materially worse off than every

single person in this room. but down to the fact that we have allowed so many people to come flooding into this country , we flooding into this country, we haven't got enough housing stock. their life chances are going to be far worse than ours are. and it's all down to the fact that we have simply taken our eyes off the ball. we have allowed this to spiral out of control and frankly, i think we put the needs and interests of foreigners ahead of our own. >> well, let me just come in and just update you with something. our political editor has just tweeted out. he says, all eyes on pontefract , castleford and on pontefract, castleford and harrogate, where reform sources say they have won, defeating shadow home secretary yvette coopen >> what? wow that is. >> what? wow that is. >> i have to say, i have to say that it's not yet confirmed. >> that's our political editor saying all eyes are on those seats. they say reform sources say that they have won. so we need to follow those seats very closely indeed. goodness me. and speaking of closely, i mean, richard halden , your chairman.

richard halden, your chairman. i mean, there's 20 votes apparently in his seat. it's some of these seats really are quite tight. >> they are quite tight. and look, if the tories made a, made a mistake over the last 4 or 5 years is to not realise that people feel under pressure when, when , when rishi made those five when, when rishi made those five commitments, i was surprised, for instance, that housing wasn't on there or employment. so when you ask why is reform so, so popular with young people is because they are at the sharp end of feeling the loss about a party that didn't focus enough on ordinary working people just deaung on ordinary working people just dealing with this rumour. >> i suppose you could call it that. and it is from our political editor, christopher hope, who doesn't tweet these things lightly. and this is obviously from sources that he's heanng obviously from sources that he's hearing on the ground. it is unconfirmed, but matthew , i unconfirmed, but matthew, i mean, the yvette cooper story would probably be one of the stories of this election if she lost her seat, shadow home secretary, absolutely no one thought that would happen. >> i mean, we were expecting a portillo moment, i.e. from the

97 election when portillo lost his seat, was the moment that everyone when mp people wrote books about it. we were expecting that tonight with the tory big beasts, as they call them, going to the lib dems and to labour. if labour was to lose yvette cooper, it's probably going to lose thangam debbonaire to the greens in bristol central. then actually that's that shows that this election isn't labour's not having it's all its own way and that clearly reform is going to have had an impact and labour needs to listen to the reform voters in its heartland. >> the last i heard as well, and i'm willing to be corrected on this because there's i'm sure you're aware we've had quite a busy night here, but, was that that they thought jeremy corbyn had won islington? it looks, it looks, it looks it looks close. >> but i think nobody's quite calling again that somewhere. >> so actually, you know, when you do add it all together, i know this sounds ridiculous because they're on course to get like a massive majority potentially labour. can you still say potentially it's not actually that good a night for laboun >> well , i laboun >> well, i think the national share of the vote isn't going to be as high as labour would hope and labour may have expected, and labour may have expected, and that's partly because you're seeing in these seats, like the ones we've seen in the north east, where reform are getting a really solid vote and often labour's vote is flatlining in

safe seats. >> labour will get a majority, a large majority, because where it needs to beat the tories in those marginal seats, it is piling on the vote. so it's very much an effectively it's a it's an election of two halves. >> look, it this is indicating keir starmer's big challenge in 97 people voted for tony blair. it feels like today people are voting against the conservative party. >> all right guys we're going to have to whizz this back to the studio. massive thank you to everyone. massive thank you to everyone. massive thank you to everyone in this room as well. and, shall we give him a chair to send him back to the studio with? there we go. all right. back to you, lovely patrick. >> thank you very much indeed. we've got some news about rachel reeves, haven't we? >> we have. she's held her seat in leeds west. >> i mean, it'd be a shocker. >> i mean, it'd be a shocker. >> shock of the night. >> shock of the night. >> it would have been. there you go. there are the figures for you, but that would have been outstanding conservatives coming in second. reform in third. >> reform very close to the conservatives again, though, in that seat . that seat. >> it's very tight there between the between second and third, doesn't it, let's talk to jack carson. she'll be our west

midlands reporter. he's standing by in birmingham for us. will be a whole host of counts there. jack >> yeah. nine in total here at the icc where votes are being counted. still being verified at the moment. we're not expecting any kind of declaration until about 4 am. this morning. but i just want to bring you some news that we've had from the workers party of great britain. of course, the george galloway , course, the george galloway, party who have stood in seats around the country, of course, standing a lot of their, their candidates on that kind of pro—palestine platform. well, we've heard from the workers party here at the count that they reckon they will be within 1000 votes of labour and liam byrne in birmingham, hodge hill and solihull north. now that is and solihull north. now that is a new seat created at this election. it was birmingham hodge hill held by labour, but liam byrne , of course, former liam byrne, of course, former chief secretary to the treasury, a big labour name, but he might not necessarily be heading back

to the house of commons now it's a 37,000 muslim electorate in that new seat and they are saying to me this evening of this early morning that the workers party of great britain here at the count, that they reckon they'll be within 1000 votes of liam byrne . now, in votes of liam byrne. now, in that case, they have already said that they will demand a full recount for that. and of course, the pro—palestine vote has been one of those things that we've been looking at and analysing, trying to get a grip, really, of how much of an impact that would have. of course, we know that a lot of the muslim community around the country, particularly here in birmingham, where there, you know, in the 2021 centres, it's 30, make up of the population here say that they are muslim. we know that that palestine issue has been really at the top of many of their agendas. they've been unhappy with the labour party, with how that keir starmer has deau with how that keir starmer has dealt with that issue. they don't feel that he's been strong enough supportive of gaza. so that's really interesting to see

how close they are in birmingham and hodge hill now around the rest of the birmingham seats that vote has probably fallen short. they reckon they'll become the palestine candidate will become a respectable second. i've been told in birmingham, yardley, which is again another strong labour seat held by jess phillips. elsewhere, of course , birmingham elsewhere, of course, birmingham ladywood was one of those seats which we were really looking at, of course, because the independent standing on a on a pro gaza platform, akhmed yakoob, of course , had run for yakoob, of course, had run for mayor and taken a lot of votes from the birmingham metro area. he is not looked like he has been able to unseat shabana mahmood. of course, the birmingham ladywood is probably one of the most labour seats in the in the country. >> we're just going to have to interrupt you because we're going to go to the count in ashfield, where reform's lee anderson is about to take to the stage. he is on the stage for the result. >> that's 690. daniel holmes, the liberal democrats, 619.

>> we are keen labour party 11,553. sebby's corner the conservative party candidate 3271 100. jason zadrozny, the ashfield independents putting people before politics 6276. the number of ballot papers rejected was 102. the vacant seat is one. the electorate was 68,929. ballot papers issued 39,986, and the turnout was 58.1. i do hereby declare that lee anderson is duly elected . lee anderson

is duly elected. lee anderson elected for reform the uk. >> let's listen. thank you , >> let's listen. thank you, >> let's listen. thank you, >> first of all, massive thank you to all the staff that's in there tonight. been incredibly hard and all the people that's worked throughout this election campaign . campaign. >> special thanks to ashlee good district council. but the biggest thanks of the night goes to my wonderful team over there who have stood by my side and watched me being grumpy . watched me being grumpy. >> over the past six weeks, they've been fantastic and i could not have done it without them. i thought. i stood in this town, my hometown, for four and a half years ago as a conservative candidate and won, and i won comfortably, and the people of ashfield backed me, and they've now backed me again as a reform candidate for ashfield. i said a few weeks back that there was going to be a reckoning on election night and ashlee good, which is a couple of common sense . now, couple of common sense. now, part of that reckoning now this wonderful place which i call my home, is going to have a massive say in how this country is

shaped in the future. i want my country back, and nashville can play country back, and nashville can play their part in that. thank you. >> i mean, the interesting thing there is that lee anderson's majority, admittedly, he's been a bit of a number 10 on the field, hasn't he? because he's beenin field, hasn't he? because he's been in labour, the conservatives and then reform. but he was only there with a small majority of 5700, and he's managed to increase that now on behalf of reform uk to 17,062. we've got labour in. >> that's his vote. >> that's his vote. >> that's his his vote. sorry. no that's not his majority. am i saying he's put his vote. he's put his share of the vote up. but equally equally the labour party are down on 11,000. the conservatives completely destroyed. they're really on 3000, in fact, the independent candidate has got who was very popular locally. it should be said jason zadrozny. he's on double the conservative vote just briefly on that. >> yes, people inside the reform

party were not expecting to win ashfield in recent days. and i think what's happened is this sort of surge of support for reform are now tipping seats oven reform are now tipping seats over, that they themselves weren't expecting to win, essentially, but 5500 majority on that one. >> let's talk to reforms, immigration and justice spokesperson ann widdecombe morning to you. and i mean, look, i mean victory for lee there you'll be thrilled at that one. i mean, are you are you surpassing expectations? >> oh, i think we are, >> oh, i think we are, >> i'm delighted for lee. congratulations lee, but, of course, if you just looked at those first few results that came through, you know , 29, 27, came through, you know, 29, 27, 26, second to labour in safe labour seats, i think we will outperform other predictions. and the expectations. and it'll be a good night for reform . be a good night for reform. >> i mean, it's an interesting one, though , when you look at, i one, though, when you look at, i mean, some say i mean, barnsley

is a key one, isn't it, which you were really, really hoping to win that one. and yet you haven't though, is it? i mean, do you think this, this 13 seat prediction in the exit poll is actually going to hold up? >> oh, i think it will hold up. i think it may may even be surpassed. we're still at a fairly early stage. there was an awful lot of results still to come. so i'm hopeful certainly. but you know, we've got, at least one seat now in parliament. i mean, i know lee was already there, but he's now returned as a reform, mp. that's tremendous. we'll be seeing more. >> and what are your reflections on the, devastation facing the conservative party tonight? according to the exit poll, reduced to 131 seats. i mean, obviously, you were once a prominent tory politician , prominent tory politician, having switched sides now to reform. but what do you make of the conservative party now? and what should they do to regroup? ann? >> well, i'm afraid they

thoroughly deserve what's happened to them, i will be very sad tomorrow morning looking through the results, because many a lot of them are still my friends, but nevertheless, i haven't any regrets , because haven't any regrets, because what had to happen was that they had to be demolished, in order to get their act together. i've never seen such a chaotic government , sustained over such government, sustained over such a period of time. all governments go through periods of chaos. but this was prolonged. it just didn't stop, and i think the tory party have got to realise that it's no good just looking at themselves and infighting and defenestrating prime ministers and briefing the press and all the rest of it. what they've actually got to do is to blare out a message, which is to blare out a message, which is what reform has done, that the electorate will respect . the electorate will respect. >> what are you going to say to people who look at, i mean, it doesn't apply to all of the results, but it applies to some who say, yeah , in fact, rishi who say, yeah, in fact, rishi sunak was right. you voted reform you get labour. >> well , actually, in

reform you get labour. >> well, actually, in most of the results, that is not the case.if the results, that is not the case. if you add the reform and the conservative vote together in most of the cases it just misses overtaking labour, and you know, we would just turn it round and we would say, well, you know, on that basis , given you know, on that basis, given where we were in the polls and where we were in the polls and where the conservatives were in the polls, you might just as well say in a vote, tory, get laboun well say in a vote, tory, get labour. it's a rather silly argument . argument. >> all right, anne, thank you very much indeed forjoining us this evening. let's just go over those figures. sorry. i fudged them a little bit earlier. lee anderson's votes are now 17,062. as a conservative, he won the seat with 19,231. one interesting observation just from the count there, because i think the teller was saying that the turnout in ashford had been around 66,000, whereas the turnout in 2019 was 48,000. so there does seem to also be something, a little bit of a pattern of something that in these particular seats where it looks as if reform might have a

good chance of winning, that people are actually turning out for the mat. so some of these. >> all right, let's just go to here we go. keir starmer is arriving at his count. this is in camden . arriving at his count. this is in camden. but arriving at his count. this is in camden . but of course arriving at his count. this is in camden. but of course his seatis in camden. but of course his seat is holborn and saint pancras. and there he is arriving with lady victoria . arriving with lady victoria. ahead of i mean, it's not i mean in a way, obviously he's very much expected to win his seat, but of course, the night tonight and all the applause is getting there is about what people are expecting to happen right across the country . are we going to get the country. are we going to get some words from him? it looks like we might have done some hugs first. >> perhaps. look, hugging activists. i mean, he looks cockahoop and why wouldn't he, is this the opportunity for him to just say a few things, or do we have to wait a little longer for this sort of blair blairite? a new dawn has broken type language, has it not? kwasi speech until the count is declared ? declared? >> no. you'll have to declare, he declared. >> he gets his count first, and then he perhaps says something on the stage. >> one would imagine he's not

going to be hanging about for long, though. kwasi i mean, he will. he must. he must know that this this result is imminent. to turn up because he is a man with a lot to do tonight. >> yes, but you know, he'll have to do a generally a speech once the count has been declared, as it were. >> the result has been watching ukip in kwasi because presumably you've met him there. >> we have i think he's so he was shadow brexit secretary when i was the under secretary. yes. so we used to meet every six weeks at, department of questions. he's very polite, fastidious. he's likeable . he's fastidious. he's likeable. he's not going to set the thames alight. he's not going to be. and maybe that's what people want. they want someone stable and calm, and i think he is those things . yeah. luciana. those things. yeah. luciana. what does that mean? >> yeah. what do you make of it? >> yeah. what do you make of it? >> so i've followed him obviously, very, very closely. i think what's been very striking about keir starmer is that he's said what he's going to do , and said what he's going to do, and he's actually done it. i've judged him by his actions in terms of what he's done to turn

the party around. is it a formidable feat if you just ask anyone in the wake of what was a significant defeat for labour at the last election under the leadership of jeremy corbyn, the labour party is incomparable. i agree for the party at that time i said nice things about him, but he did run to the left and won the leadership and then swung to the right. >> so people like. >> so people like. >> but we also find ourselves in very different economic agree stance, you know, but you know, politics doesn't stand still and you have to respond to the circumstances in which you find in front of you the one thing i give him credit for. >> just a second. sorry. we're just going to give you this, footage now from holborn and saint pancras, where sir keir starmer, the labour leader, the man who is projected to become prime minister tomorrow, is just posing with supporters, presumably party members, activists all crowding around him. a number of people from her majesty's press there i can see his wife, lady vic, as she is nicknamed by labour insiders, all waiting for the count to be announced. >> it's quite interesting, actually, on the on the family

front, because we don't see much of victoria, we don't see anything of the children. so there's a real sort of, sense of privacy there, which is quite interesting. we haven't really seen it before in all of this, but it's quite a scrum there in camden , and not surprisingly, camden, and not surprisingly, because, i mean, if, if it would because, i mean, if, if it would be catastrophic for labour if they didn't win now in the wake of the catastrophic for the pollsters, let me tell you that if you didn't win. but it's all looking as though it's going to be a significant a huge labour victory that we should have by, what, five, 6:00 this morning. these results really start crashing through. but it's certainly looking that way. and it's looking like a very happy man greeting just about everyone. it can get hold of. and as long as you can't really blame anything . no. blame anything. no. >> what you have in that room is the party activists, the people that have been campaigning, knocking on doors. you've got councillors there. i know them, many of those people pretty well and i will give them credit for one, getting rid of corbyn, but

also dealing with antisemitism, antisemitism, because it was horrific. >> it was horrific . and what >> it was horrific. and what went on and sadly, what happened to you was beyond appalling. so i think he deserves credit for that. i think he deserves credit for that . but he i think he deserves credit for that. but he has flip flopped all his way through politically. you know, he was he had a left wing manifesto. he was very pro getting back into the eu. he wanted a second referendum and he's completely tacked to, to the right. whether that is for political advantage, who knows what his true principles are. >> i don't think he's tied to the right at all. i think that's a fundamental mistake you're making. what's happened is he's moved the labour party back to the centre, and that's why we're winning. and you lot have moved way off the centre, and that's why you're in such trouble tonight. >> well have they? people say that they've moved off the centre towards the left and that they're not right wing enough. and that's why reform is doing so well. steve. >> no, no, we heard earlier the problem that kwasi and robert have got is they can't make up their mind whether they should

accommodate the far right or whether they should try and move haven't moved to the right. >> i mean, i mean, clearly the reason why reform are doing well is because if you ask their voters, many of whom were in my constituency, they don't think we're right wing enough now, i don't think that tacking to the right is going to get us back into government, but there is clearly a view that on immigration, on defence and on taxes, frankly, we move far too much. >> but you see, what's what's interesting on that is aside from it being to the right enough or not, it's the fact, i mean, you were saying all the right things as a government on those issues. >> it's just we those issues. >> it'sjust we didn't those issues. >> it's just we didn't see any action on it yet. >> so, so on immigration, robert and i stood on tens of thousands , and i stood on tens of thousands, and i stood on tens of thousands, and last year we had 745,000. and as soon as that figure came out, i thought, we've got a problem here. >> yeah, i mean for about 7 or 8% then and now they're on what, i7. 17. >> and steve just qualify that far. right. are you suggesting that reform are far right . that reform are far right. because people who support reform might then legitimately ask, if you're calling reform

far right, then what are you calling neo—nazis? >> i mean, some of my former. well, i don't think i used that term at all. >> i said something about far right. right. >> well, i think the reform is far right. >> no, i think reform are a pretty far right, party. >> and the question is, how much accommodation can the present conservative party make with them? i think that is true. it's obvious that they have support tonight. we're seeing it. but what we're seeing is a fracturing of what most people would understand as the conservative party over the last 50 years. >> well, i think we we're going to have to set out a narrative once the dust is settled on all this, on what the conservative party stands for and what our values are. and we can't do this overnight. we can't do it in the studio, but it has to be. >> i think that's right. >> i think that's right. >> well, i know, i think it is about time. >> robert. yeah. >> robert. yeah. >> can i just ask you, lucy? i think i think just in one sentence, the challenge of this campaign is it wasn't clear from the conservative party if they wanted to back reform or fight reform.

>> and we saw both elements come out from different wings of the conservative party. and as i said in our conversation earlier, this has to be a battle for conservatism in terms of what happens. i think there were lots of mixed messages in the campaign. >> i mean, you know, being frank, as i'm trying to be as honest and objective as i can be, it was a terrible campaign that we thought, and i think most people would would agree with that. well, from, you know, singing in the rain at the beginning. yeah. to i never knew what the message was, you know, then we start grant, my good friend was talking about supermajorities. yeah. was that. and then we were saying, i don't know. >> then he's conceding defeat too early. >> the message kept changing. >> the message kept changing. >> i, i also think that the i think so. >> so lynton crosby had a saying you can't fatten pig on market day. and the die was set when, you know, when we went to 20% in the polls, it's been impossible to turn that around. i'm not saying it was the best campaign even saying it was the best campaign ever, but, you know, when we had things like the gambling scandal, for example, which again, unfortunately that really cut home. i think rishi was let down by his top people , the down by his top people, the director of central office and

his private parliamentary secretary was outrageous. what went on? i mean, my activists who are out all day and all night knocking on doors, and then these people are making bets on the election like it's some big game just to make a few hundred quid. it's disgusting. and unfortunately, that really cut through. so if you're a potential wavering between conservative or reform and you are peed off or you're thinking, well, actually i might vote labour this time, even though i've been conservative because i'm less worried about labour than i used to be. that's what that's the sort of thing that tips people over the edge. the dda, dda thing was through. >> it was a disaster, had massive cut. >> gambling, gambling, rishi sunak store. >> i mean, well, you can't responsible for that. he made the decision. yeah. he those commemorations he said apologised. >> he he said he said the d—day thing was a big mistake. right. and it was. but what is not his fault was these greedy people who were gambling and did an enormous reputational damage in the middle of an election campaign, and the people who rishi should have been able to trust the most, just to make a

few quid and they, they should hang their heads in shame. those people. >> so i think, i think rishi did make mistakes, but i think not all of the things that went wrong were were his fault, >> can i just on this far right issue ? luciano, i we've got to issue? luciano, i we've got to be so careful because every time anything far right is mentioned, we get people messaging all the time saying, we really disagree with this. we're not far right . with this. we're not far right. we're just as well it's populism. yeah. but as i say, the language and not having not having the dig steve. but but language actually. and you'll be more aware of this than most of us actually is really important isn't it. in this we all have terminology. >> we all have to be concerned about the words that we use. but it's not. it's not unusual in our political lexicon and language for us to call any party to the right of the conservatives far right. no. >> but if you know no, there is no, no talk about the merits of it. >> it's about the merits of it. we've just if we look at the elections that have just taken place in france for example, any party to the right of the main

right, that's, that's how to me, to me, to me, far right means the nf, the bnp and all that kind of thing. >> i can't look, i haven't got i'm not a reform supporter by any shape or imagination, but you can't say to the thousands and millions of people are voting reform if you say they're far right, the party's far right. you're basically saying the voters are far right for voting for them. and that is exactly the kind of mistake that people hate, and that the voters hate because they think, oh, right. well, we can't express our views about anything. no, i don't just accused of being i have exactly the same understanding of the term then, because i when i say far right, i think i mean to the right, the extreme right , it's i think i mean to the right, the extreme right, it's hard as opposed to far right. >> yeah. i see that term a lot. hard, right. >> yeah. but kwasi and robert, when, reform came out with their manifesto stroke contract with the people, i mean, it looked to me to be a fully throated conservative manifesto from the 19805 conservative manifesto from the 1980s or early 90s. i mean, did you not look at that manifesto and think, i wish we could produce something like that?

maybe we'd get more people voting for us. >> it was more populist. and, you know, it wasn't about your mini—budget yeah, but but that's what look what happened to it. but it's, you know, the markets, >> well, you said right ideas, wrong execution. yeah. that's have reform got the right ideas. i think they had execution. >> they have had even more unfunded tax cuts. >> just to explain what we're seeing on on screen for those. oh, we've got, keir starmer's count on the left for you had davies count on the right. both imminent. that's interesting. we'll get to going to be seeing those two at the same time. >> it appears as if labour have held rochdale so that would suggest that george galloway has not been successful . well, not been successful. well, that's in his bid on behalf of the workers party to take what is probably the only labour. >> yeah, that's probably the only labour victory. i'm happy with tonight. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well you know, you tend to go from the last election labour hold. >> i mean i appreciate boundanes. boundaries. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> okay. yeah. >> okay. yeah. >> labour 13,047. galloway

11,508. so george galloway may need to return to celebrity big brother at some point soon. why are you saying it's a good thing, kwasi? >> because i think he's very divisive. i think he's, verging. i wouldn't say he's anti—semitic, but he's verging, well , i think anti—semitic, but he's verging, well, i think he's an awful human being. and i think, you know, he took money from all right, careful. >> he's also very litigious. so just be careful. there luciano, your reaction to that? >> i think it's the right result. certainly hearing what's happened on the ground there , happened on the ground there, it's politics of the worst kind that we've seen from george galloway. very, very, very divisive, very, very i think kind of some of the worst kinds of campaigning and people really feeling threatened on the on the ground there. it's not how we should be conducting our politics. and i'm glad that's the result tonight. >> i wonder if that's going to be indicative of other independents who have been standing on a sort of pro gaza podium, whether that will have an impact on them, steve, because if galloway can't win in rochdale from that kind of positioning, one wonders if lesser known independents will be able to succeed . be able to succeed. >> well, there was a report

earlier suggesting there was a bit of a problem in birmingham with, i think, liam byrne seat, so we'll have to wait and see. i mean, generally i wouldn't have thought they would have made much progress. i think they are, you know, it's understandable that people are distressed about gaza, but i think the shameless way george galloway sought to exploit it during that rochdale by—election was a disgrace. but what? it's not going to help british politics. one iota. >> but what do you think labour has done or will do to well has done to sort of shore up that a body's traditional support for them in, in rochdale. >> well in amongst the muslim community well the point is we cannot assume that the muslim community is some kind of, you know, single, single bloc. >> no , that's that's a fair point. >> you know, if you talk to, muslim voters in most constituencies, certainly my former constituency, you hear

exactly the same concerns as everyone else. they are worried about the cost of living, keeping their jobs, the safety of their children on their way to and from school. i mean, the idea that you can characterise them solely by events in gaza is ridiculous. >> it's interesting. it's a win for paul waugh in labour, who's a former journalist. so for paul waugh in labour, who's a formerjournalist. so he stood there against george galloway , there against george galloway, reform in third place with 6773 on that point about muslim voters. why have the conservatives not had more joy with muslim voters when you think that they might have quite a lot actually , in common with a lot actually, in common with conservative values, family orientated, aspirational religious people who are probably quite socially conservative, it seems as if the conservatives have given up on these voters. >> well, i think i think everything has been shaped by the gaza, the war in gaza and i'm proud, actually, that my party has stood up for israel. and i think that was the right thing to do, especially after

what happened on october the 7th. and so it's inevitable that has had political ramifications in seats where there was a high muslim population. >> the conflict in the middle east, wasn't it? >> should we see? i don't know, can we listen in to ed davey? the exact count seems to be the declaration seems to be happening >> 395 jason january, the official monster raving loony party to vote for him. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> de bougie does the . green >> de bougie does the. green party 3009. edwards, jonathan davey, liberal democrats 25,080. helen. margaret. >> edward. the conservative party . candidate 8635. party. candidate 8635. >> mark david fox reform uk

4787. eugene o'kane . labour 4787. eugene o'kane. labour party 6561. judith ofwat, the mysterious yvonne tracy kingston independent residents justice to subpostmasters . 1177. therefore, subpostmasters. 1177. therefore, i give notice that edward jonathan davey is duly elected as member of . as member of. parliament. >> number of votes cast across the conservative constituency at the conservative constituency at the uk parliamentary election on the uk parliamentary election on the 4th of july was 50,813. >> the total number of ballot papers rejected was 149, and the

turnout was 65.69. now congratulations to the sir davey and lask linzer. everyone . thank and lask linzer. everyone. thank you . you. >> it's been a great privilege to serve the people of surbiton and this great community over many years, and i'm humbled that you've given me the chance to serve you again. so let me start by saying a big thank you . and by saying a big thank you. and thank you to sarah and all the returning officer team, and to all the staff and police who worked so hard through the night. >> you are the unsung heroes of our democracy. >> it simply wouldn't work without you. >> and thank you to my fellow candidates. >> it simply wouldn't work without you . and thank you to my without you. and thank you to my fellow candidates for making

this a campaign. we can all be proud of. i wish you all well in the future . now, i don't know if the future. now, i don't know if you could tell, but i've rather enjoyed this campaign . but what enjoyed this campaign. but what i've loved most hasn't been the paddleboarding or the bungee jumping . jumping. >> it's been speaking to people here in kingston and surbiton and across the united kingdom about the challenges they face and their hopes for the future. people who are working hard, raising families , caring for raising families, caring for loved ones, playing by the rules but finding it harder and harder to make ends meet . people who've to make ends meet. people who've had to wait hours for an ambulance, weeks to see a gp, or months for urgent cancer treatment. people who are angry at the filthy sewage being

pumped into their rivers, lakes and onto their beaches. people who feel let down and taken for granted and are desperate for change. many of them have turned to the liberal democrats in some cases for the first time at this election . and we want to be your election. and we want to be your champions. we've listened to you and we've heard you loud and clear . we've and we've heard you loud and clear. we've put your concerns at the heart of our campaign , at the heart of our campaign, number one amongst them, fixing the health and care crisis so that you can see a doctor or find an nhs dentist when you need them. and so your loved ones get the high quality care when you need it, ones get the high quality care when you need it , where ones get the high quality care when you need it, where you need it . and that's what liberal it. and that's what liberal democrat mps will fight for every day in the next

parliament. i've shared my own caring story during this campaign , and i've been campaign, and i've been overwhelmed by the response, especially from fellow carers, people looking after their loved ones who've got in touch to say that's my story too, and i'm grateful that we've been able to bnng grateful that we've been able to bring caring out of the shadows in this campaign and we will continue to stand up for a society where we value care and properly support carers because we cannot afford not to. let me finish by thanking my wonderful family, even i hope they're sound asleep. emily i love you and i could not have done this without you. ellie and john. i love you so much . and to our love you so much. and to our fantastic team. thank you so

much. this would not have happened without you . my happened without you. my election agent simon drage. organiser cosmo lupton . and our organiser cosmo lupton. and our whole incredible team here in kingston and surbiton and all the liberal democrat campaigners across the country who fought tirelessly for a fair deal. across the country who fought tirelessly for a fair deal . you tirelessly for a fair deal. you are all amazing . this is your are all amazing. this is your night . and tonight is for night. and tonight is for everyone across our united kingdom who desperately want change and who are ready with us to build a brighter, fairer future for our country. thank you very much . okay, so that's you very much. okay, so that's sir ed davey accepting that he has become the mp, or continue

to be the mp for kingston and indeed celebrating in what looks to be a very good night for liberal democrats before we go to camden, just bring you up to speed with a couple of interesting results. >> the tories have held broxbourne, which was seen as a seat that could have gone to the lib dems. however, amanda milling, the former party chairman, is gone in cannock chase. chairman, is gone in cannock chase . massive swing against chase. massive swing against milling to labour and equally thatis milling to labour and equally that is indicative because labour have now won swindon nonh labour have now won swindon north and cannock chase, so they were two seats that in 1997 labour had won them off. the conservatives. they've lost them again to labour, but they've also gone a little bit further because they've lost rushcliffe to labour. and rushcliffe, of course, was ken clarke's old seat. so it looks as if they've gone to 97 and then gone one step above. >> yeah, that's interesting . >> yeah, that's interesting. also an interesting one to bring you north of the border, kilmarnock and loudoun, labour have taken that from the snp. 5000 and something majority . but

5000 and something majority. but lillian jones from labour taking overtaking alan brown from the snp on that one. so that's the first loss for the snp so far that we've seen . that we've seen. >> alan cairns has gone in the vale of glamorgan. he's a former conservative minister and there are reports that grant shapps may have also lost his seat. here's nigel farage arriving in clacton for his count, >> lots of, lots of flashing. just be aware of that because, you know, he's a obviously a been a very popular figure amongst a lot of people, and the cameras are out. he's having something to say. what do you think? whether we can catch any worse, if we can just catch a glimpse, a snippet of what he's having to say as he walks in? you can gain more votes from labour than you thought. >> i think it. absolutely. >> i think it. absolutely. >> and really did a labour of won this election without any enthusiasm at all. >> and we'll now be going after

the labour vote. what's what's a good vote share for reform for tonight. what, what do you want about share wise as many as possible , anderson. possible, anderson. >> i have no idea. you're the clever lee anderson is one because he had the courage to jump because he had the courage to jump to reform. >> there are many conservative mps who tonight will lose their seats because they lack that courage. and the really big message is this geographically, now in most of the country, i vote for conservative. >> they're actually might catch up on that a little later. i mean, he's obviously celebrating the fact that lee lee ashfield, lee anderson in ashfield has become reform's first official mp. but more to follow if the exit poll is to be believed. >> stephen well , yes, could be >> stephen well, yes, could be as well, the exit poll says 13, quite where it's going to lie around that mark. we just don't know. i'm just intrigued. kwasi kwarteng that when he said, what would you like your vote share to be? he was asked as much as possible. i mean, well, we it's a bit of an obvious one. >> i mean, i remember people going to selections and they'd

say, and what do you think of taxes? you say, too high. you get a round of applause. >> although he had suggested in his interview with chris hope, which we played out yesterday, that he thought that reform could win between 6 and 8 million votes, and actually it's looking like it looked a bit it looked a bit punchy yesterday, but it's looking a bit more realistic now. might be six cdl’s. >> cars. >> the seats. the interesting thing is the seats. i mean, the exit polls said 13. i'm struggling to see it. that many. but again, there's still a lot of votes that haven't been counted. >> i hate to say it, and i know you're not going to agree with it, luciano or steve for that matter. but i mean, this does raise the legitimate question about proportional representation, doesn't it? 6 million people vote for reform, and they get ten, 12, even 13 seats. well, that's hardly representative, is it, >> well, well , there's lots of >> well, well, there's lots of things we can say about proportional representation. i think, as you've got here, four

former members of parliament. and certainly what comes up time and time again is that people want a named representative . and want a named representative. and with proportional representation, people don't go and put a cross by someone's name. and what you find when you go to countries that do have pr, there's a lot of disaffection because they don't have someone they know, they can see in a weekly constituency surgery. so you know, we go down that path at our peril. >> i mean, it's going to be the next big campaign for nigel farage, though, isn't it? i mean, he wants to turn it into a campaign to really capture the hearts and minds of people out there in the public who feel that they're not properly represented by our current parliamentary system . parliamentary system. >> although when we when we did, we did pain all over again. yeah, but don't forget, we did have a referendum on pr and it was a massively in favour of keeping the existing system quite some time ago though. >> wasn't 2011. >> wasn't 2011. >> yeah, but i don't think there's a, you know, no one's ever come up to me and said, oh, what do we want? proportional representation. >> when do we want it? well why do they might now robert i mean, this great campaigner, this rate the conservatives might be advocates of proportional representation. >> well let's just let's sorry

just sorry to interrupt, but let's just have a look at the vote share so far because this sort of works into what we're talking about with all of this. labour on, 43. they're conservatives, 20 reform , 18 lib conservatives, 20 reform, 18 lib dems, eight, green party, seven. actually, so far what we're seeing, i mean, it's, you know, i mean, it's i mean, frankly, neck and neck reform and tories. >> i think the tories will because what always happens in these elections is that you get quite a concentrated urban vote that's counted first, and then towards the end you get very disparate , large rural seats disparate, large rural seats because it's just the physical, you know, business of coming, you know, business of coming, you know, business of coming, you know, culling as it were, bringing in the votes and those vote shares will change. >> okay. a few more results coming in here. sarah atherton has lost wrexham , tories have has lost wrexham, tories have also lost southport . broxtowe. also lost southport. broxtowe. labour has won another seat off

the snp. that's west dunbartonshire . the tories have dunbartonshire. the tories have lost bishop auckland to labour. now that was very much a sort of totemic red wall seat wasn't it, in 2019. >> well, diana davidson the mp stood down. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and so i don't know who the conservative candidate was but it was a new candidate. >> a couple more. the tories have lost stevenage to labour. we had a chat earlier about whether the whole of hertfordshire might be painted red and the tories have lost barrow and furness to labour as well. >> right. >> right. >> well, well that's interesting. that's my neck of the woods. that's my neck of the woods. of course there's simon fell i think was, was the. >> but we won it in 2019. i mean that was a classic. but this is, this is a crumbling of the, of the red wall that the tories once won. once woi'i. >> once won. >> well you can't barrow as red wall do you know. >> but it was, it was, it was that wave. >> yeah. yeah yeah. but i mean laboun >> yeah. yeah yeah. but i mean labour, labour took that in 92. yes. they took that with, with lord houghton didn't they. >> that's right, that's right . >> that's right, that's right. >> that's right, that's right. >> and also the tories have lost scunthorpe to labour as well.

>> did we have scunthorpe. yeah we did it was i love that you've forgotten how successful you were. >> it was holly holly holly holly holly holly mumby—croft. >> it was your landslide. >> it was your landslide. >> holly bobby croft. absolutely. >> all right, can we talk to mark white? not yet. oh, we can't yet. i'm being told. and let me just explain what you're seeing on the screen. yeah keir starmer. and, well, it's in it's in camden. but it's holborn and saint pancras is his seat. and then you've got, you can see actually, if you're watching on tv, nigel farage on the right there in clacton as he's just arrived there, we will we will talk to mark white, our correspondent who's there very shortly. >> what we don't get to see is obviously what happens when the candidates come in and they are then taken to meet and discuss with the returning officer, and all the candidates have to look at all the any spoilt ballot papers and check that they're happy with any votes that are being discounted and not included. that's often a process that takes some time. yeah we

had thought that the whole postal vote situation , which the postal vote situation, which the telegraph had reported in the week, had affected around 90 constituencies. >> people in scotland particularly cross. they hadn't received their ballot papers because the schools break up earlier than they do in england and wales. for the school holidays. do we think that's going to be a feature of any of these counts? if they're very, very close, say i mean, it's apparently impacted saffron walden quite badly. >> so kemi badenoch. >> so kemi badenoch. >> yeah, kemi badenoch should win. so yeah, but it's a scandal. >> i mean, i think, i think, you know, people certainly when i was an mp, people often use postal votes because they were either carers of elderly people or they were themselves elderly. yes. and for them not to be able to exercise their vote because of some administrative, you know, mess up is, is, is really disappointing and pretty scandalous . scandalous. >> okay. i mean, we had somebody on the show in the week who said that half of the postal votes that half of the postal votes that were meant to go to expats living abroad hadn't arrived. and then it was too late. so they feel disenfranchised. nigel

farage wants to ban postal votes. >> well, that's the only thing . >> well, that's the only thing. that's something that needs to be looked at very closely. we saw over a million people sign up for a postal vote after the election was called. that's very, very significant. we've got the highest number of people, over 10 million that use the postal vote. so certainly we need to think about in all constituencies. do we have the printers that are necessary? does royal mail have all the staff that's necessary? obviously some of this has taken them by surprise. i think everyone's got something to answer to. and councils will need that resource particularly. there's been some across the country that haven't done the printing in time. >> it was like the nhs, isn't it? you've got to look at the areas that get it right and compare them to the areas that get it wrong. i mean, i've had two postal votes actually proxy votes from my parents who were away and it's absolutely it's been brilliant very, very smooth. anyway. all right. here we go. hoban and saint pancras keir starmer's seat. quite a list of candidates for this one, there's your monster raving loony candidate walking on elmo from sesame street. >> they're all there. >> they're all there. >> so there's keir starmer. >> they're all there. >> so there's keir starmer . and >> so there's keir starmer. and as they gather on the stage, let's listen in to the returning officer for a minute .

officer for a minute. >> lovely. thank you. >> lovely. thank you. >> thank you . okay for turning >> thank you. okay for turning up . up. >> thanks. >> thanks. >> i jenny rowlands, being the acting returning officer at the election held in the holborn and saint pancras constituency on the 4th of july, 2024, do hereby give notice that the number of votes cast for each candidate in the election was as follows. nick the incredible flying brick, the official . the brick, the official. the official monster raving loony party 162 charlie clinton, liberal democrats 2236 andrew joseph feinstein 7312. wise

islam independent 636. sentul kumar independent 40. mehreen malik, the conservative party candidate . 2776. john edmund candidate. 2776. john edmund pointon , uk independence party pointon, uk independence party 75. david roberts, reform uk 2371. tom scripps, socialist equality party 61. bobby elmo . equality party 61. bobby elmo. smith 19. david robert stancil , smith 19. david robert stancil, green party 4030. keir starmer . green party 4030. keir starmer. labour party 18,884.

the total . the total number of the total. the total number of votes cast across holborn and saint pancras constituency at the uk parliamentary election on the uk parliamentary election on the 4th of july, 2024, was 38,602. the total number of ballot papers rejected was 223, and they were rejected for the following reasons. want of official mark zero. voting for more than one candidate 73 writing or mark by which the voter can be identified two. unmarked or void for uncertainty 148. therefore, i hereby declare that keir starmer has been duly elected as the member of parliament for holborn and saint pancras constituency . and

pancras constituency. and i invite the successful candidates suggestions. >> thank you so thank you so much . much. >> it is a. it is a huge privilege to be re—elected to serve this constituency. the incredible community of holborn and saint pancras , my home where and saint pancras, my home where my kids have grown up, and saint pancras, my home where my kids have grown up , where my my kids have grown up, where my wife was born and i have to thank vic and my family more thank vic and my family more than anyone for their love and support and for keeping me totally grounded. thank you very and thank you so much to the police and the returning officer for making sure every voice is heard and every vote is counted. and thank you to andy white, a fantastic agent. the campaign team, the local party and all

the volunteers who have worked so hard over the last six weeks and beyond. every door knocked, every leaflet delivered , every every leaflet delivered, every conversation had. it makes a massive difference. and lastly, i'd like to pay tribute to my fellow candidates who put themselves forward for public service because this room right here beats the heart of our democracy , not in westminster or democracy, not in westminster or whitehall , but democracy, not in westminster or whitehall, but in democracy, not in westminster or whitehall , but in town halls democracy, not in westminster or whitehall, but in town halls and community centres up and down the country, in polling stations and voting booths and most of all in the hands of the people who hold the power of the vote. it all starts here, and it starts with you. change begins in this community with the people who came together to make life better , like the fantastic life better, like the fantastic councillors who work so hard for

our area . service starts in this our area. service starts in this neighbourhood . the groups, the neighbourhood. the groups, the faith communities, the local organisations who serve week in, week out and hope starts with that one kid from summerstown who dares to believe that the future belongs to her. and with labour it will. because i promise this whether you voted for me or not, i will serve every person in this constituency like the mothers i sat with who've lost children to knife crime. the pensioners who can't get the doctor's appointments. they desperately need, the local businesses who have struggled so hard to keep their head above water. i will speak out for you, have your back, fight your corner every

single day . because tonight single day. because tonight people here and around the country have spoken and they're ready for change. to end the politics of performance and return to politics as public service. the change begins right here, because this is your democracy, your community, and your future. you have voted. it is now time for us to deliver. thank you very much. thank you . okay. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> keir starmer giving his acceptance speech. we've just been crunching the numbers a little bit on that one camilla haven't we. he's it's pretty shocking. he's lost in terms of, of percentage share percentage he's down over 17. >> yeah. so last election in

2019 he got 36,641 votes. he's now to down 18,884. so it's been his vote share has been eaten into by the independent andrew feinstein, who came in second place. also, the greens have doubled their votes. but at the same time, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement of keir starmer. but we are now looking at nigel farage in clacton, where his, seat announcement is imminent. we'll just see, and we can talk to mike, mark white, who is in clacton with nigel farage as he awaits his fate. mark >> yes, indeed. just looking over the balcony at nigel at the moment. i'm going to try and shout down to him. just say hello , nigel, you're on gb news hello, nigel, you're on gb news at the moment. hello. how are you feeling? >> pretty good. thanks, mark. pretty well. we'll find out in ten minutes. >> yeah , absolutely, for the >> yeah, absolutely, for the party as a whole. i mean, it's

been incredible, hasn't it? >> oh, i think i think some of the scores up and down the country is a remarkable, short space of time. no money, what we've done is incredible, but this is just the first step. >> if we can be okay. >> if we can be okay. >> we've been told not to interview anymore. thank you very much for chatting to us. there briefly, to say that, you know, it has been incredible. and i think from nigel farage's point of view, the case, he will see for, reform of the voting system has only been strengthened by what is unfolding this evening. we're seeing it in so many of the counts, a very short, strong showing for, from reform, coming in second place in many of those constituencies, big swings towards the reform party. and of course, they've already, now returned their first mp, lee anderson, up there in ashfield ,

anderson, up there in ashfield, and it may well be the second mp that we're looking at now with nigel farage. we're being told by the press team here at the clacton leisure centre that about 315 this morning is when we are expecting that declaration, from the deputy returning officer here in clacton , nigel, is very clacton, nigel, is very confident, and the exit polls certainly suggest that he is on track to become reform's second mp. and then, of course, what we've got to look at is what the situation for reform will be like under, in other parts of the country in terms of those predicted , 13 mps, that predicted, 13 mps, that according to the exit polls, reform could stand to gain today. so you've got, for instance , richard tice, the instance, richard tice, the former leader until recent weeks

up there in boston , in skegness, up there in boston, in skegness, making a strong showing of course, and confident that he could be returned as an mp, also, of course , we've got ben also, of course, we've got ben habib, again , some suggestion habib, again, some suggestion that he is doing pretty well as well. and down. let me see the, some of the other names we have to look out for. some of the other names we have to look out for . well, of to look out for. well, of course, basildon and billericay, we know that that's gone to a recount too close to call, and that could well be going the way of stephen connolly, for reform and then rupert lowe down or up. i should say, in great yarmouth again , expected to show very again, expected to show very strongly indeed. and they believe that he is in with a very good chance of being returned as an mp for reform . returned as an mp for reform. i'll tell you what, it's interesting , mark, in all of

interesting, mark, in all of this. >> you mentioned those 13 seats that the exit poll gives to reform. i mean, it's been difficult working out with, with difficult working outwith, with the pollsters here in the studio as to whether those numbers are are a little bit sort of overcooked. if you like. >> well, i mean, clearly, as the results are coming in, it just depends. there are some areas where reform is showing stronger than even the exit polls are suggesting. they would show other places a little bit less. so let's see how it evens itself out by the end of all of the counts sometime, tomorrow, we think so, whatever the case, the actual case, in terms of whether it's slightly more or slightly less than the exit poll was suggested , suggesting, i think, suggested, suggesting, i think, from nigel farage's point of view, it will just strengthen that case for voter reform

because he believes that by the end of this process, he's looking at 6 million plus votes and 6 million plus votes, even if the upper end of expectations as far as the exit poll is concerned, in terms of 13 mps, is, by any measure, not really representative of the 6 million plus people who have voted. so he will be calling, of course, in parliament if he is returned in parliament if he is returned in the next five minutes or so. for voter reform and his other mps in parliament and all the other party members will be calling for that vote of reform. interestingly, of course, quite a number of people within labour were very sympathetic towards, voter reform as well. in recent years. and now they've returned a huge landslide, let's just see how enthusiastic they are because of course, they are now the party with a huge majority, a huge mandate to go on and

achieve whatever they will hope to achieve in the next five years. they may no, not want to be bogged down or distracted by talk of voter reform, but there will, without doubt be pressure for that. there will have to be, i think, national debate and discussion about what we do in terms of voter representation and whether it is truly represented by this first past the post system. if you have a party getting somewhere in the region of 6 million votes, okay, mark, for now, thanks very much indeed , indeed, >> some breaking news. camilla. >> some breaking news. camilla. >> yes , on grant shapps. he's >> yes, on grant shapps. he's lost his seat in welwyn hatfield, so labour have gained it from the conservatives. andrew lewin has won with 19,877 votes, compared to grant shapps. the defence secretary on 16,078. so that is arguably the first tory big to beast fall. >> the shapps moment heck, down,

down. not quite the same ring as his portillo moment, although it's ironic for a man who was constantly across his spreadsheet kwasi. >> he's a good he's a good man, he's a friend. i think it's very disappointing. i think he held the seat from 2005, very fluent communicator and it's a shame that he's lost his seat. >> i mean, it's only a marginal victory for labour. but again , victory for labour. but again, reform rears its head because their candidate got 6379 797. sorry. so again, if reform weren't standing, shapps would have probably held there. >> who knows, who knows? >> who knows, who knows? >> but yeah, it would have been much tighter and he might have. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what is sad is i mean, we've just i've just found out we've lost my old seat of harlow. we had a brilliant conservative, staunch conservative candidate, hannah ellis, and i was very proud that she was my i mean, a hopeful successor. but clearly we're losing the new towns and the seats that we won in 2010. and you know, it looks like again, because of the reform

vote, a lot of it will be labour's gained thurrock from the tories. >> we can reveal a folkestone, cheltenham and chelmsford have all gone for the tories . yes, all gone for the tories. yes, steve barclay has held his seat. rumours unconfirmed right now , rumours unconfirmed right now, but rumours that iain duncan smith, who was in a very, very difficult fight in chingford and woodford green on a very small majority, may have just clung on there because there's been a split of the left wing vote between the independent candidate who was standing for laboun candidate who was standing for labour, and faiza . yes, and labour, and faiza. yes, and equally, another labour candidate. so that split the vote on the left, perhaps, but we shall see. miriam cates can now speak to us. i believe stephen. >> yes, she can, what do you make , miriam? good to see you. make, miriam? good to see you. by make, miriam? good to see you. by the way, what do you make of grant shapps. i mean, it's long to be fair . grant shapps. i mean, it's long to be fair. it's long been rumoured that if there was a big swing to labour that he would go. but nevertheless, it's still a bit of a shock to lose a

defence secretary. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and, this is being repeated across the country and we're seeing, a lot, a lot of labour wins. the exit polls seem to be, very much correct. but what we are seeing is labour winning with relatively small vote shares certainly offer no increase in vote share compared to 2019. but of course, what's happenedis to 2019. but of course, what's happened is that the conservative vote has been split down the middle between conservative and reform. and as you said, under our system , that you said, under our system, that has led to this potentially enormous labour landslide. yet with not much increased labour vote share on last time and of course, that is, part of the idiosyncrasy of our voting system. it is the system we have.i system. it is the system we have. i mean, there are arguments for and against changing it, but that is what we have. and i think voters are going to wake up tomorrow morning, with an enormous labour majority, despite the fact that labour have actually not won that many more votes compared to last time. >> miriam, we're hearing that iain duncan smith has pulled off a minor miracle in chingford and

woodford green and managed to hold on to that seat despite languishing there on just over a 1000 vote majority. he could end up being the last tory in greater london. >> yes, well, i very much hope that iain duncan smith holds on to his seat. he's an outstanding mp. he's done enormously brilliant work as part of the centre for social justice, as well as being a superb backbenchen well as being a superb backbencher, so i very much hope he holds on to his seat. but it sounds like he'll be one of the lucky ones. and actually he's benefited from a split of the votes on the left. whereas of course many conservatives will lose as a result of the split on the vote on the right. but i think, look, there's going to be a very, very long post—mortem, on this election. and i think, you know, there'll be lots of, of blame shifting and discussions and many history books written, but really, what's happened here is that, the conservatives, for a brief moment in 2019, promised to fulfil that new kind of politics, putting ordinary people's interests first, the national interest first, ahead

of any kind of international elite. and for a moment, we promised to do that. but sadly, for a number of reasons, we haven't fulfilled that. and that is why, you know, i and my colleagues have picked up so much frustration on the doorstep. that's why so many votes have gone to reform. and so of course, we've got some very, very serious questions to ask ourselves about. what is the future of conservatism, because the demand is still there. i mean, the vote share of conservatives plus reform tonight will still be a very respectable share of the population. but the point is, because we haven't fulfilled the demands on us in 2019, that vote has now been split and we're seeing this enormous labour landslide as a result. >> what are you looking at? nigel farage, as we expect the declaration in clacton very soon. but i mean, we've been asking the panels here in the studio, miriam. but what do you think the conservative party should do moving forward as you say, combine the two vote shares between conservative and reform. and it's, you know , a lot more and it's, you know, a lot more respectable than things looking at the moment. but does that

mean you think the party needs to shift more towards the right? >> i think we need to shift towards talking to the real issues and the real problems that this country faces. and the election campaign has been full of arguments about high taxes, nhs waiting lists, immigration and they are serious problems, but they are the symptoms of our problem rather than the cause and the cause of some of our problems are 30, 40 years old. and actually they've been, carried by all the parties in a in a great consensus really, over the last 30 or 40 years. those, causes being massively high debt, huge demographic change, a terrible balance of trade, you know, reliance on foreign debt. those are the kind of things that have got our economy and our society in trouble. and we're not going to address them unless we look at the root causes. and so i think conservative party, the conservative movement, conservative movement, conservative people have got to rebuild by addressing the real causes of the problems that we

face, not just the symptoms. and we've got to become a party for all ages, because i think it's become very clear that the vast majority of our vote now, is in the over 50s, perhaps even the over 60s. and actually, if we really believe in the conservative movement, in the link between the past, the present and the future, which is what conservatism is all about, then we have to rebuild as a party for all ages. >> hearing miriam, quite interesting news. it's a night of sort of strange twists and turns that the tories may have won leicester east. that seat, of course, was hotly contested by a number of candidates on the left, including claudia webb and keith vaz. but i'm hearing that the tories have snatched it in a surprise pincer movement that seems to have caused a little bit of a shock wave at that particular area of the midlands. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> well, this is the surprising nature of first past the post and of course, this is why often the majority that a party wins in parliament is not particularly related to their vote share in the country. and

as i said, i mean, we don't know the full results yet, but it's perfectly possible that sir keir starmer will win a landslide record majority on a very similar vote share to jeremy corbyn, won in 2017, so you know that that is an interesting phenomenon that the political scientists can pore over. but the fact is that is how our system works. and when, when the two party system fails, as it has failed tonight when the vote on one side gets split, then we do see these surprising results that don't necessarily reflect what voters actually actually wanted when they went to the ballot box. yeah. >> okay. miriam, thanks very much indeed. to good see you this morning. and it's just fascinating looking at we won leicester. >> well yeah. >> well yeah. >> shivani raja 14,526. labour rajesh agrawal 10,100. so, i mean, i thought the 4500 majority. >> amazing. >> amazing. >> that was a very specific local circumstances though. that

wasn't like we were talking about the two way split on the on the left in wood green and chingford. but this is a three way split because you have the existing, former mps. you've got two former mps and a new candidate. so the combination of which meant that you had three way split. >> yes. we had claudia webb on around 5000, keith vaz on 3600. just a couple more to update you with kwasi and robert. we've you've lost craig. craig tracy held brentford, brentwood lost wood. >> we were always good. >> we were always good. >> that's a lost lost . bracknell >> that's a lost lost. bracknell lost. newton aycliffe. sutton and cheam and west bromwich . and cheam and west bromwich. yes. a bit of a mixed picture, this isn't it? i mean crumbs what an election night. and let's just reflect again on grant shapps and ids. i mean ids is obviously you look at the party and what might be left of it and he'll be the greyest of hairs there. i mean, at least you've retained a bit of wisdom and experience. and somebody with a, with a, with a political memory. >> so i worked for iain duncan

smith before i was an mp. when we were in opposition. i worked for him , helped him with some for him, helped him with some speeches when he was leader of the party. i've got nothing but admiration for him and what he's done for social justice, and i hope that, he that i want us to be a social justice conservative party, a compassionate conservative party. and i think ian, with the work of the centre for social justice, could, could help us rebuild and make sure that we've got the right values. and i don't think ian will be cosying up to nigel farage in any shape of the imagination. he wants a conservative party and i think he can help us build the values that miriam was talking about. >> but he has absolutely won by default. so i mean, i know, i know, it's the politics is like football , but politics is like football, but politics is like could be an interim leader. >> to be fair , he's increased >> to be fair, he's increased his majority there. i appreciate that the vote on the left is entirely split. >> shares down the 12.6. yeah. >> shares down the 12.6. yeah. >> but so what were the actual you know what he did. >> so he got 17,281, shama tatler for labour. got 12,523.

but faiza shaheen, he obviously was the labour candidate and all all went pear shaped. so i stood as an independent 12,445. >> but it doesn't matter. >> but it doesn't matter. >> you know , it's politics. >> you know, it's politics. >> you know, it's politics. >> i got that that combined vote is a is massively. oh yeah. >> having said that, this is interesting just in terms of what you've been saying on this panel tonight about how the campaign was going nationally, what ian duncan smith decided to do is go completely local, talk about whipps cross hospital, talk about rescuing the police station, talk about entirely local matters. i think he was one of these mps that didn't really want to mention the national picture, or indeed rishi sunak on any of his leaflets. >> he did a very good job. >> he did a very good job. >> most of the conservatives, most of them didn't, didn't. if you look at all the leaflets, i wonder if it was in swindon today, in the barnet seats, there's no mention of the conservative party. wouldn't even know it was a conservative party leaflet because the small print at the very bottom. >> well, pfizer was was kicked out over gaza, was it not? was that the issue that was slung around and then some comments that she made that were. that's right. and then she ran as an

independent. >> it was a funny one because as well, some of her former labour activists, who then were forced to work for the labour candidate, then defected and went back to her to campaign for her. >> she'd fought against ian in the last, actually, and she'd lost by that very narrow margin of 1000. >> but the important thing is ian , just to look to the future. ian, just to look to the future. but, you know, politics, by the way, is like a football match. whoever gets the goal in the last second and ian's done that . last second and ian's done that. but but the important thing is ian will be ian will be absolutely central to the rebuilding, rebuilding of the party because he will have that collective wisdom and experience. i agree, and so i think that is one blessing of tonight. >> it really you say, mark, you think it could be an interim leader, an interesting choice because what do they do? >> surely the next leader is not going to be the permanent leader. there needs to be somebody that comes in. you could say he's a previous leader. he's a much better leader. he's a much better leader. now potentially than he was when he was the leader first time round. he could be an interim choice wise. head steady. i suspect those on the right of the party wouldn't accept it though. >> but you know what the funny thing? well, ian has got a lot

of support across the way. when he ran, he was the right wing. >> he was the right wing, yeah. >> he was the right wing, yeah. >> in 2001, i remember i voted for him because the view was that kenneth clarke was too close to the eu. speaking of ken clarke, actually we spoke earlier, didn't we, about how the tories had lost rushcliffe. >> they have managed to hold, huntingdon, which would have been one of those other seats. john major's former seat. it would have been indicative of, starmer going way beyond 1997 if they'd lost huntingdon. yeah, indeed. they'd lost huntingdon. yeah, indeed . extraordinary. indeed. extraordinary. >> are we allowed to mention a cluster of lib dem gains? yeah. >> go for it, do it, do it, go for— >> go for it, do it, do it, go for it . oh, literally. for it. oh, literally. >> seat after seat has been falling . we've just taken nine falling. we've just taken nine gains in about the last ten 15 minutes. hazel grove , sutton and minutes. hazel grove, sutton and cheam, carshalton . chelmsford. cheam, carshalton. chelmsford. >> chelmsford. yeah. >> chelmsford. yeah. >> richmond park. oh, no, that's a hold. sorry. that's a hold. >> so the cluster coming through and cheltenham, chelmsford as well . the two seats. when i look well. the two seats. when i look at some of those majorities as well i'm beginning to think that the party has underestimated how many we can win tonight if we start to convert some of the

other seats to those levels, then i think we're heading into then i think we're heading into the 60s expectations. >> i mean, the exit poll came in at 61. >> i think it is going to be 61 or plus or plus. >> but very striking how the exit polls, i think, have overstated what reform's results. think so? well, no, particularly i mean, i take one example in barnsley, we just touched on it very briefly . but, touched on it very briefly. but, you know, the exit polls said that the reform was going to win it by 99% or 98. likelihood labour's had majorities there of 8005 thousand votes. so very, very kind of stark. >> i think something's gone wrong there. yeah, i agree with the exit poll on that. >> but interesting for the lib dems that they are performing better than the exit polls because exit polls can't understand the specific targeting and that it's very hard for them to analyse that. >> it would be interesting if in all of this, the exit poll comes in for some criticism in the sense that it's been so good up over the last few years. >> i think with reform, because it's a new party, it's quite difficult because they didn't stand last time. yeah. so typically they kind of rebase things to what happened last

time, so that might be a complication. mark i think you mentioned south cambridgeshire, lib dems have won torbay torbay from the conservatives, which is quite significant down there in the south west, >> tories have lost worcester to laboun >> tories have lost worcester to labour. did you mention newton abbot, mark? >> i didn't mention you just won that one. i didn't have that on my there we are. >> add that to your list okay. >> add that to your list okay. >> that's another one. >> that's another one. >> what's her name? what was she that was, marie. >> anne—marie trevelyan. yeah. >> anne—marie trevelyan. yeah. >> no, no. another one. maurice maurice. maurice. anne. marie. >> maurice keen , brexiteer from memory. >> very much so. >> very much so. >> oh my goodness me. >> oh my goodness me. >> put my glasses on. >> put my glasses on. >> well, while we chit chatting away, let's just point out that on your screens now is, nigel farage. and i don't know if there are other candidates there or not. there was a minute ago i saw the labour candidate, john, a minute ago, >> charles watson, giles watling, he's such a lovely guy. >> so they're all sort of gathering around some of the counting tables. let's talk to our home editor, mark white, who's there as well. what's going on, mark?

>> well, a little bit of a delay. we don't know. quite what that delay is about, but everybody seems fairly relaxed. the, deputy returning officer had gone to speak to some of the people in the, the middle of the, the counting hall here has now gone back and is speaking to the candidates. so we are expecting that the declaration will be imminent, just looking around, no movement yet towards the stage, but i think it's worth reflecting on what this would mean. of course, if nigel farage is able to overturn the tory majority here. it was almost 25,000 for giles watling at the 2019 election, an absolutely thumping majority. so if nigel farage, in a party which clearly and as we speak, they're going to the stage for

they're going to the stage for the declaration. so i'll just, make way for that and we can listen to that declaration now . listen to that declaration now. >> all right. here we go. there on the stage. so, just gathering there and then the returning officer, once they're all in position, we'll be having something to say. moment of truth. for nigel. eighth time lucky. perhaps but these predictions have been anything to go by. >> i'm now going to declare the result of the clacton constituency member of parliament. i, ian davidson, being the acting returning officer at the election for a member of parliament for the clacton constituency on thursday, the 4th of july, do hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded for each candidate at the said election is as follows ben millom matthew, liberal democrats, 2016. farage nigel

paul democrats, 2016. farage nigel paul, reform uk 21,225. scotland. jason jameson craig climate party 48. mac . tony climate party 48. mac. tony independent 317. osborne, natasha . green party 1935. osa natasha. green party 1935. osa nepal natasha. green party 1935. osa nepal, jovan labour party 7448. pat anastasiou, tassos. heritage party 33. pemberton, andrew ukip no to illegal immigration 116. watling giles, francis. the conservative party candidate 12,820. the number of ballot papers rejected was 111. i therefore do hereby declare that nigel paul farage is duly elected as the member of

parliament for the clacton constituency . constituency. and. and the turnout was 59.23. would you like to then? >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> well , mr >> thank you very much. >> well, mr returning officer, all here at tendring , and i have all here at tendring, and i have to say fellow candidates, it's been a well run, well fought and remarkably clean election battle. i think we'd all agree on that. and thank you for your services. i promise that i will do my absolute best as a member of parliament. i had 20 years as an mep, but it's not quite the same link or same responsibility with constituents. i will do my absolute to best put clacton on the map. i'll do my best to bnng the map. i'll do my best to bring more tourists. i'll do my best to try and bring some private investment . it's over 30 private investment. it's over 30 years ago that i fought my first parliamentary by—election. i fought lots of them over the

years and i've had big successes in european elections and perhaps less so under first past the post, which is a very demanding, very, very demanding problem for smaller parties. i will say this . it's four weeks will say this. it's four weeks and three days since i decided to come out of retirement and throw my hat in the ring . i throw my hat in the ring. i think what reform uk has achieved in those just few short weeks is truly extraordinary, given that we had no money, no branch structure, virtually nothing across the country, we are going to come second in hundreds of constituencies. how many seats we're going to win ? i many seats we're going to win? i don't know, but to have done this in such a short space of time says something very fundamental is happening. it's not just disappointment with the conservative party. there is a massive gap on the centre right of british politics and my job is to fill it. and that's exactly what i'm going to do. but it's not just what we do in parliament as a national party

that matters. it's what we do out around the country . getting out around the country. getting 5000 people in that room. in birmingham last week, the energy, the optimism, the enthusiasm, the belief that westminster is just completely out of touch with ordinary people says to me that my plan is to build a mass national movement over the course of the next few years and hopefully be big enough to challenge the general election properly in 2029. what is interesting is there's no enthusiasm for laboun there's no enthusiasm for labour, there's no enthusiasm for starmer whatsoever. in fact, about half of the vote is simply an anti—conservative vote. this labour government will be in trouble very , very quickly and trouble very, very quickly and we will now be targeting labour votes . we're coming for labour. votes. we're coming for labour. be in no doubt about that. i want to thank the team that have helped me do this over the last few weeks. my fellow candidates for behaving as impeccably as they have. believe me, folks ,

they have. believe me, folks, this is just the first step of something that is going to stun all of you. thank you very much . all of you. thank you very much. thank you. farage. >> finally, a member of parliament. >> thank you. after lots and lots of trying over the years, mark white watching all of that. i mean, it's, i mean, it's a little bit of history there. mark >> yeah. and what a remarkable achievement as well. just on a personal level for nigel farage to come up against the sitting tory mp with that majority of almost 25,000, and not just to overturn the majority, but then, of course, to come out with a majority himself of just shy of 8500. it truly is remarkable, given, of course, that it reform isn't one of the big parties. they don't have all of the infrastructure, the money and

the activists behind them that the activists behind them that the big parties do. of course, what they do have here in clacton is nigel farage, who is such a key figure, who is a figure that is known nationally, of course, and internationally, and was a key , figure on the and was a key, figure on the doorstep. we heard from activists in recent days about the very positive messages that they were getting from those whose doors they were knocking around the clacton area. so they knew pretty comfortably ahead of time that they were going to overturn that very significant majority, but it's the fact that what has happened here in clacton is being replicated around the country as well. that will really give reform a great deal of, sort of strength as they see it in going forward with that argument to try to

bnng with that argument to try to bring about some kind of change to the voting system in the uk . to the voting system in the uk. we'll wait to see just how many mps are returned at the end of the day. two at the moment, of course, lee anderson being the other up there in ashfield and nigel farage said a little earlier how he saluted lee anderson that he was one of the brave mps that decided to move, that could see, according to nigel farage, the writing on the wall that took that brave decision to take a chance on reform. and as far as nigel farage is concerned, many others andindeed farage is concerned, many others and indeed many people within the electorate are taking a chance on reform. whatever the motivation, however upset they may be by the tory government, all of the issues around immigration, of course, which was a big key battleground debate for nigel farage in recent weeks. it was really the

key issue of his campaign. it ran into trouble of course, on a couple of occasions, at least with some of his own candidates getting into trouble. but nigel farage telling our political edhon farage telling our political editor, christopher hope, actually that , you know, had he actually that, you know, had he really been operating things much earlier on, it wouldn't have gone the way it had gone. perhaps it was , in hindsight, perhaps it was, in hindsight, maybe not the best idea to contest every seat, given that they are such a new party. they are a party that lacks the kind of funding that the bigger parties have. and also that sort of activist support on the ground. perhaps a more effective strategy might have been for them to target those seats that they believe they stood a very significant chance in returning mps . and however, if they had mps. and however, if they had done that, then there's a counter argument that they are

then not as strengthened as they are now in saying, well, look at us nationally with the candidates that we have fielded, look at what we have achieved and look at the share of the vote that we have. yet we only have a dozen or so mps. however many it turns out at the end of the night. but it is without a doubt one of the big talking points of this general election . points of this general election. >> okay, just quickly, before we talk about nigel farage's victory in clacton, luciana berger are hearing that jeremy corbyn has won in islington nonh corbyn has won in islington north as an independent. i just wanted to get your reaction to that specifically seeing as he was the one who orchestrated your departure from the party. >> well, i mean, he did lots of things when he was leader of the labour party. the point is that he didn't stand as a labour candidate in this election. i don't think it's a surprise that someone who's been the member of parliament in that constituency for 40 years has held on, certainly it's on a reduced vote

from what he's had previously, but certainly hearing what's happened on the ground during that campaign, it was an absolute disgrace in terms of what they said about the labour candidate, things that were patently not true, things like saying that he didn't pay tax in this country, putting out materials that were looked like labour party materials when he was standing as an independent, there was many things that were very underhand. that happened in the course of that campaign. i think. questions to be answered. >> okay, okay. >> okay, okay. >> right. we're going to head down to clacton for you because there will be a lot of the can you imagine the crowd down there, that news that nigel farage has taken his seat. so we're head to essex. it's actually pretty close by to the clacton constituency. and there you go. nigel with his victory there, 8500 or just shy in terms of majority, it's quite something. so let's see what the crowd down there with patrick made of it all. try not to. >> yes. okay. well, welcome back

to essex with the gb news watch party. and i'm just going to throw it over straight away. how do we feel about nigel winning everybody michel, it's over to you in the crowd. michelle. go on, take it away. >> i can tell you now, when we got that result, there was an almighty , almighty cheer. should almighty, almighty cheer. should we try and recreate the energy in that room? everybody, when they announce that nigel farage has finally entered westminster. tell me what your reaction to that news is . look, people have that news is. look, people have got the bubbles ready to go. go on. who's in charge of this bottle, betty? well people, champagne is popping. people are happy, and i can tell you now, there are so many people looking forward to seeing what kind of mischief, what kind of pressure.

nigel farage is finally going to enact when he is in the houses of parliament. cheers to you now, patrick. three cheers, everybody. >> hip, hip. hooray hip, hip! hooray! hip hip. >> ray, i told you the energy is high. patrick christys. he's assembled a group of people that we are going to talk to as we speak. patrick christys back to you. yeah absolutely. >> well, it looks like you're having a heck of a lot of fun down there. i must say, michelle. never. you've never been at ten feet away from a bottle of fizz at the moment. we walked into this place, which is wonderful. you're on the end there, sir. so you are a conservative voter, is that right? but you are. how do you feel about nigel's victory? what do you think? >> absolutely happy with the victory. >> i voted conservative only because of local considerations. >> i voted for kemi badenoch. >> i voted for kemi badenoch. >> yeah, >> yeah, >> the reform voter had the support pulled away ,

support pulled away, >> other than that, i would have been reform, >> but i voted for kemi on that basis, so absolutely. >> over the moon, it's, it's right wing and that's what we that's what we want. >> okay. >> okay. >> now, sir, you actually voted for labour. okay. but i believe you were saying if you lived in clacton, you would have voted for nigel. can you explain that for nigel. can you explain that for me, please? >> well, it goes back to what i was saying earlier. i believe labour need to know, and there needs to be somewhere, someone rather there to make them know that we want change. and if they don't deliver it, they've got someone behind them who will, because like i said earlier, it could be very different at the next election if labour don't realise. >> what do you think, nigel? nigel, in this election it appears anywhere reform taken quite a few votes of conservative voters at the next election. that could well be laboun do election. that could well be labour. do you think they take votes off labour? >> well, no, i think that depends. things can change very quickly in politics as we've

seen over the last few years. so no, i think that's all up for grabs. >> it's all up for grabs now, sir. you are from america now. nigel farage very nearly did not stand in this election because he was going to go stateside and help donald trump with his presidential run. but actually, in the end, he said he'd had a change of heart. he thought he was letting people down. how significant do you think this nigel farage victory and the number of seats predicted for reform is going to be for british politics? >> i think it's amazingly huge. he is the only one talking straight , he is the only one talking straight, simple sense, right? >> the housing crisis is amazing. what's the cause? too many people coming in not enough housing supply. the nhs, the gps are overloaded . why? too many are overloaded. why? too many people coming in. it is such simple math that no one wants to talk about. and he's terribly augned talk about. and he's terribly aligned with donald trump. they

were running on basically the same thing . put the people same thing. put the people first, worry about them, solve their problems, get this stuff sorted. that's it. so i think it's an amazing victory. i think for four weeks to turn that kind of result is just incredible. >> okay. all right. so we've had a massive reaction here to nigel farage. his victory in clacton. you've heard champagne corks popping you've heard champagne corks popping over there. you've had some really eloquent views here. can i just tell people as well i don't know if everybody's caught this yet in the room. jeremy corbyn has won in islington north, so he's beaten the, he's beaten the labour candidate there. i'm not sure. are they a few, are they a few ironic cheers there or what is that . cheers there or what is that. yeah i don't i've been, i've been, i've been working this room all evening and i must say i don't actually think there's a huge cabal of corbynistas knocking around. yeah it's one seat less for labour, one seat

less for labour. yeah. okay. well, what, sir, as a labour voter go on. corbyn. corbyn's one. were you a corbyn easter? >> no, i might be. i may have voted labour, but i would have not have voted for jeremy. >> you would not have voted for jeremy corbyn. no. i'm okay. that's a hard no. btec michelle is over there somewhere. michelle, i think that you might be able to get a bit more. >> actually. patrick i just want to give you another shock result. everybody jonathan ashworth i can tell you now he has lost his seat . leicester has lost his seat. leicester south. he has lost his seat . south. he has lost his seat. jonathan ashworth i can tell you now. got 13,760 votes and a pro—palestine independent got 14,739. so you heard that jonathan ashworth has lost his seat. >> that is, that is an absolutely massive, massive,

massive result. and it is. i'm just going to, tell everyone as well that it's coming through to me that jonathan gullis has lost his seat in stoke . apparently his seat in stoke. apparently jonathan gullis, he is the, deputy chairman of the conservative party i believe, from memory. sorry, it's quite late in the day here now, but yes, it has lost his seat. that's a labour gain in stoke. but the jonathan ashworth story is massive. i mean, earlier on our political editor christopher hope was tweeting that he heard that potentially yvette cooper had lost her seat as well. that is unconfirmed. and labour are trying to really massively push back on that. but that is absolutely massive. michelle, can i just throw back to you and see if you can get a bit of reaction to people there from jonathan ashworth reaction, who's got a strong reaction to that? >> jonathan ashworth news? i mean, there was a lot of people are saying , yeah, mean, there was a lot of people are saying, yeah, did he lose to are saying, yeah, did he lose to a pro—palestine if the reports are absolutely to be believed, then yes , that's really then yes, that's really unnerving. i mean, well,

jonathan ashworth is out, but that's quite worrying as well. what's worrying about that? you well, being from the jewish community. >> yeah. that it's it is that that that many people can vote for the pro—palestine thing and it's, it's as a political party, not just as a protest movement, as it were . as it were. >> so concerns here. anyone else got any strong opinions about the jonathan ashworth here? sir, can we see this on the camera? could you just lean forward, sir? >> well , i sir? >> well, i mean, people like what nigel said. >> sectarian politics, you know , >> sectarian politics, you know, we don't. >> we got away with that. >> we got away with that. >> we? you know, we had peace in ireland. >> we don't want it back again, really, i think and there's a lot of people nodding along and saying yes to that. >> any other strong opinions? i'm going to go for a wander. hang on. >> i totally agree with the lady that they've got to look after their own interests and when sections are taken over parts of our community and block voting, that's a big problem . that's a big problem. >> there you go. i mean, it's an

issue that really does create emotional responses, doesn't it? people feel very, very passionate about it. your thoughts? i live in leicester andifs thoughts? i live in leicester and it's a great night for leicester. >> there are three city seats that have all been labour for decades. >> we've won leicester east for the tories and leicester south have been lost for labour. john ashworth thought he was going to be in the cabinet. >> he's not even got a seat. it's great. >> i can tell you as well. there's quite a lot of disbelief at that news there about jonathan ashworth. i mean there was cheers. there's concern, there's disbelief and there's uncertainty about what that might mean for certain communities . patrick christys communities. patrick christys over to you. >> so something that's really, really interesting. and michelle, thank you for that. thank you everyone out there over the course of this general election campaign, jonathan ashworth was the person that labour sent forward one of the most. it was him and wes streeting. so when you look to all of those tv debates that they did or you looked at all they did or you looked at all the media rounds, really jonathan ashworth was being sent out there first and foremost. they backed him as one of their top communicators. they obviously thought that he was

going to win his seat. they obviously thought he was going to be in their cabinet. but one thing i will say is i always found him incredibly, incredibly lazy when he was asked to sell the votes for 16 year olds, he looked me in the eye and he was like, well, why is that such a big deal ? and like, well, why is that such a big deal? and he said, well, actually it is a big deal. we've literally never had that in this country before. so it is a big deal by definition. and he didn't bother to sell it. and i wonder if that's what he's trying to do in his own seat, which is basically not bother. and it's come now to bite him on the rear end hasn't it. and you, sir, on the end there that jonathan ashworth news is pretty big. so you've had nigel farage, you've had jeremy corbyn winning and you've had jonathan ashworth losing his seat all in the last few minutes. your views, i think, i think corbyn winning is. >> no, it's is.— >> no, it's no is. >> no, it's no surprise to me at least. he's got so much support in islington. it's that north london labour background . london labour background. they're not going to bat, they're not going to leave him alone, >> i think ashworth is, is an

amazing result. to be fair, i think that is the one that will really, really stand out to me . really, really stand out to me. he is the poster boy. >> he's the one other than wes streeting. he is the one that always gets pushed out to push the labour message. and the fact that he's actually fallen short is a, is an incredible result. >> yeah, it's an absolutely it's an absolutely massive shock, actually, i must say, that that has happened that jonathan ashworth has gone. it's a shame matthew laza is not here, actually, because believe it or not, he used to live with jonathan ashworth a few years ago. so hopefully he could have had a view on that. but i'm going to lob us back on over now to michelle dewberry, who's in the thick of it down below me here. >> come on michelle, i can tell you now i have some more breaking news, ladies and gentlemen. and it concerns reform uk. i can tell you now that reform have now won their third seat. you've got rupert lowe in great yarmouth. he has won his seat . won his seat. >> hang on.

>> hang on. >> there's a very excited chap to next me. tell me. >> i actually grew up in great yarmouth, so i'm quite happy with that actually. so yeah. so what will you say? >> right. >> right. >> let me tell you now, there'll be many people that watch, they watch telly, they say whatever they say. reform is a racist party. it's a far right party. what do you think to that? >> well, i don't know what to say, but, i mean, just look at me. >> i mean, it also. >> yeah. no, but look at someone like zigi who was at the ces. >> nonsense, isn't it, go back to the studio to you in paddington . paddington. >> lovely. >> lovely. >> michelle. thanks very much indeed, look, we're expecting, the result for suella bravermans constituency. very shortly, in fact. there you go. the returning officer is on the stage 2036. >> there are 168 rejected ballot papers. so i here do hereby do declare that suella braverman conservative party is duly elected .

elected. thank you . thank you. >> i want to start with a few thank yous . thank yous. >> firstly, thank you to fareham borough council chief executive returning officer, team . returning officer, team. >> the hundreds of local people who have manned polling stations all day , who have counted votes all day, who have counted votes tonight . and of course, to the police. >> i want to also thank each and every one of my parliamentary opponents for your dedication and for making this a really enjoyable, campaign with these very new and significant

boundary changes. >> this has been challenging for all of us, but you've all enabled our democracy to function safely and effectively. secondly i want to thank my wonderful team of fareham and waterlooville conservatives agent tom davis, councillor tina ellis, donna jones, tom fife, will, freya, neil, gwen, patricia. there are too many to name right now. this evening, but i am profoundly, profoundly blessed to be part of your team . blessed to be part of your team. you have thrown everything at this campaign in rain, in sun, in wind. we didn't get any snow, but there was a variable british climate that we had to deal with. the leaflets , the with. the leaflets, the canvassing, the support. you even got me to join tiktok,

which was quite an achievement. so thank you for going the extra mile and for always remaining cheerful and professional. i hope you enjoyed the campaign. thirdly, i must thank my family, my husband, my children for your steadfast love, support and friendship . my mum, my dad, my friendship. my mum, my dad, my wider family for your constant advice and encouragement. i couldn't do this job without you all. and next, thank you to the good people of fareham and waterlooville. you've placed your trust in me as your voice in parliament for the fourth time now the people of fareham and waterlooville are the best

of britain. patriotic common sense, kindly , dedicated, sense, kindly, dedicated, enterprising and i am humbled to continue as your servant in parliament. i will endeavour to work for you, to speak for you to and deliver for you time and time again . to and deliver for you time and time again. now, to and deliver for you time and time again . now, finally , to and deliver for you time and time again. now, finally , i to and deliver for you time and time again . now, finally , i want time again. now, finally, i want to briefly address the result in the rest of the country. and there is only one thing that i can say sorry . there is only one thing that i can say sorry. i'm sorry , i'm can say sorry. i'm sorry, i'm sorry that my party didn't listen to you . the conservative listen to you. the conservative party has let you down. you, the great british people, voted for

us over 14 years and we did not keep our promises. us over 14 years and we did not keep our promises . we've acted keep our promises. we've acted as if we're entitled to your vote. regardless of what we did , vote. regardless of what we did, regardless of what we didn't do . regardless of what we didn't do. despite promising time after time that we would do those things . and we need to learn our things. and we need to learn our lesson. because if we don't, bad, as tonight has been for my party, we'll have many worse nights to come . the country nights to come. the country deserves better, and we've got to do better . and i will do to do better. and i will do everything in my power to rebuild trust. we need to listen to you. you have spoken to us very clearly . thank you

to you. you have spoken to us very clearly. thank you . to you. you have spoken to us very clearly . thank you . there very clearly. thank you. there you go . you go. >> suella braverman. fareham and waterlooville. holding her seat . waterlooville. holding her seat. fascinating. listening to what she had to say in her acceptance speech there. my party didn't listen. my party let you down. is she kwasi kwarteng and robert halfon, the new leader of your party? >> i mean, that was clearly, in my mind, a pitch for some sort of leadership on manoeuvres. i mean, it was it was pretty naked. and she wrote that appalling article, well, appalling article, well, appalling in terms of its time. >> i mean, it was the day before the election and, and even now, you know, you've got colleagues losing their seats up and down the country, really good people. she could give it. just let it rest for a few days. >> we'll come back to you because jacob rees—mogg has been waiting for us in north east somerset. jacob, lovely to see you resplendent in your blue rosette. we've missed you, by the way. haven't seen you in a

long time because you've been very kind, so hard . very kind, so hard. >> but i'll be back on monday. >> but i'll be back on monday. >> you'll be back on monday. indeed so what's your reaction to tonight's results? jacob >> well, they don't come as any surprise. we've been behind in the opinion polls consistently for two years, and the opinion polls didn't move an inch during the election campaign. >> well , they might have moved >> well, they might have moved an inch, but against us. >> yeah. i'll tell you what, jacob. we're just hearing that richard holden's won his seat. but by 20 votes, i mean, heck, it sort of says it all, doesn't it? about how this is going for the conservatives tonight . the conservatives tonight. >> well, at one point, the only mp was mark francois. so i'm glad we've got a few more to join. mark, who is a great man, but i didn't think he could hold all the shadow cabinet posts at once. >> and how's it looking for you, jacob? >> i do know the result, but i don't think it would be polite

of me to give it before it's formally announced. >> no, no, quite right. well, what's your view? we've been talking about it with the panel tonight. as to what? how the conservative party regroups reforms after this election and whether it's going to be one nafion whether it's going to be one nation tories, whether it's going to be more towards reform style conservatism , what needs style conservatism, what needs to happen . to happen. >> well, the question is, should we be a lib dem party or should we be a lib dem party or should we be a conservative party? and the answer is clearly we should be a conservative party. and that what has happened in this election is that we have taken our base, core vote for granted , our base, core vote for granted, and they've gone off and voted for nigel farage. and that's perfectly reasonable of them. when we weren't doing what they had put us in office to do, the 1.4 million people net migration in the two years to june 2023, of a party that had promised to bnng of a party that had promised to bring migration down to the tens of thousands. that's it in a nutshell. it's not doing what our voters expected of us, jacob. >> we've just heard that richard

tice, the reform chairman, has won boston and skegness by around 2000 votes. when you say you can't be like the liberal democrats, you've got to be like the conservatives. do. you need to be more like reform? >> reform has a lot of good ideas and it has some charismatic people within it. it had some elements of its campaign that were difficult, and some candidates who were beyond the pale. so i don't think you can jump fences before you get to them. we need to work out what the conservative party stands for and then see who wants to rally around that. and that may well include a lot of people who are sympathetic to or even belong to reform . even belong to reform. >> yeah, i mean, it's interesting though, isn't it, in terms of what what happens then to these people who have been tory voters for a long time, don't want to haven't wanted to go to reform or stick with the tories, so have gone to labour instead. how do you win those people back under under the

circumstances ? circumstances? >> i think there are very few who did that. the polling doesn't seem to indicate many. i think quite a lot of conservatives stayed at home, quite a lot went to reform. not that many seem to go to labour, which may i wish sir keir starmer well and congratulate him on his victory, but the share of the vote is, i believe, lower si king rishi sunak. >> the prime minister, arrived with his wife akshata at his constituency , count richmond and constituency, count richmond and northallerton. sorry to interrupt you there, jacob, but the prime minister has just been escorted into the building. it had been rumoured by some mrp polls that he might be in danger in that seat, even though he has a majority of 27,000. he's going in there now for the count. we can see people there busily trying to finish that off now. jacob, sorry to cut in on you . jacob, sorry to cut in on you. look, you've got your own count still to come. you're telling us that you'll be back with us on monday come what may, and we look forward to that. >> oh, yes. yes well, yes. it may be easier if i. no longer

have other obligations, but we shall see in due course. well that's one way of putting it, jacob. >> thank you very much indeed for your time this evening. good luck to you this morning. >> i'm sure this morning, because let me just remind you, it is 4:00 in the morning on this election marathon, bringing you all the results as we run through . through. >> what is going on? this is richmond , where rishi sunak will richmond, where rishi sunak will be getting his results in. well fairly imminently, and it's, you know, it's got to be said that it was, according to some of the polls, on a bit of a knife edge, the latest polls not suggesting that, but it's certainly been questioned. it would be a shocker. kwasi. kwarteng should he lose that seat or even , he lose that seat or even, frankly, if the majority is 27,000, majority is slashed in the way we saw with mark francisco, the clearly the majority will have been slashed. yeah, but by how much? >> it's i'm sure considerably. but it would be extraordinary if

he lost the seat. i don't think he lost the seat. i don't think he i'm pretty sure he'll have hold archewell. >> should we just also just reflect there on i'm not sure. jacob is confident of retaining his seat in north east somerset and hanham, i mean, for the left, this will be a great scalp. he's the ultimate tory boy figure of some degree of leftist ridicule , but actually leftist ridicule, but actually a key figure on the right of the party that lost . yeah. party that lost. yeah. >> it's sad. i mean, i don't agree with jacob on everything, but he's a character and the party should be a broad church and there should be a place for me. there should be a place for jacob rees—mogg. and i think he's been had a very significant career in the party and it's sad to lose great colleagues like this. >> he was a parliamentarian above all. i mean, he's somebody who really enjoyed being in the chamber giving speeches. okay. and i think it's a shame that if indeed he's lost more breaking news. >> no, i didn't get that one. >> no, i didn't get that one. >> bristol central has gone to the green, so thangam debbonaire appears to have lost that for

laboun appears to have lost that for labour. she's the shadow culture secretary. the greens there. it's carla denyer who's the co—leader of the greens along with adrian ramsay, has stood against labour there and won significantly. looking to me that they've won by more than 10,000 votes. so thangam debbonaire that's a that's a bit of a shock isn't it? luciana and mark, very popular member of the labour party, somebody that was looking forward to having a key cabinet post. i'd say. >> yeah. i mean thangam is a brilliant member of parliament, has been very dedicated in the work that she's done, particularly in the dcms, the culture and media brief. very, very sad to see that result. i think it's indicative, you know, the candidate that stood against her is obviously co—leader of the greens, was given a national platform , participated in those platform, participated in those debates, certainly got a lot more airtime nationally and on in the media and the greens targeted. >> i mean they the place was full of greens absolutely everywhere. the education secretary has lost her seat to the lib dems in chichester.

>> we've got that confirmed now. so the lib dems did think that gillian keegan was going to fall, but she has actually fallen. yeah. can we talk about jonathan ashworth in a bit more detail? >> because that is a real shocker. and he's been beaten by an independent. >> i think all the leicester seats are presenting some unusual results this evening that certainly people weren't expecting. we briefly spoke before about what's happened in the other leicester seat. just wanted the conservatives. so certainly some kind of local impact there, local campaigning, independent candidates which have affected the outcomes, which i think it's fair to say no one was expecting. >> jonathan ashworth had so much airtime. i mean, he was describing himself as sort of the resident labour attack dog. he was in every spin room. it just goes to show, doesn't it? >> but also for people that perhaps were following the campaign very closely, some really awful things happened dunng really awful things happened during the course of that campaign. people may have seen the video online where jonathan ashworth was kind of hounded down the street. he then had to film it, didn't he, for his own evidence in his constituency?

>> yeah, he was really surrounded by a mob and he was intimidated a lot. i mean, it's only a narrow victory , isn't it? only a narrow victory, isn't it? >> less than a thousand. it's less than a thousand. i mean, you were saying kwasi. i mean, it almost feels like this is the big shock of the night. >> so a pretty big shock because he was, as he himself said, he was very prominent in the campaign. it wheeled him out. he was obviously one of the you know, there are key people in a campaign, a national, do national media. and if you're in that position, you can't spend as much time in your constituency. no. and that's clearly what's happened. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, he probably didn't know what was going on. >> yeah. and gillian. >> yeah. and gillian. >> gillian was campaigning around the country for other candidates as well. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> so i mean, again, gillian, i mean, that's a lot somebody who has a different kind of background to your average. you don't mind me saying kwasi eton educated. yeah. >> so she was oxford. >> so she was oxford. >> gillian keegan was the only degree apprentice in the house of commons. yeah. the only one. and she. and that kind of governed her values as and as education secretary. and she was she was fantastic. she was a very good okay, a great loss.

all right. >> lovely. thanks. well back to you in a second. let's go to portsmouth north, this is penny mordaunt's, constituency. there she is, up here on stage. i can't see from here, but anyway, we're expecting that declaration any time soon. this is one where it's been considered to be a pretty tight. there's lots of questions over whether she would retain her seat or not, but clearly they're all aware of what the result is at this stage. so just waiting for the returning officer . returning officer. >> is it a bad sign she's putting her speech away, it seems. let's see. wondered just waiting for that penny mordaunt count to be announced. she's standing there. she's looking fairly cheerful. but let's see. >> ridgewell's very angry just to let her live down. >> are tonbridge went well. there was the fiasco over at iain dale standing and then coming down. >> yeah there isn't. edmunds in suffolk has gone labour for the

first time since 1820. >> astonishing . >> astonishing. >> astonishing. >> bury st edmunds, bury st edmunds. >> yeah, that was another. >> yeah, that was another. >> that was another. sunak >> that was another. sunak >> to be, to come off it every single leader has always put their. >> yeah, but it didn't work this time. yeah >> okay. we are just waiting for penny mordaunt's count in portsmouth to be held. we're just seeing them now all on the stage , waiting for that stage, waiting for that returning officer to make her announcement. >> i hate to say it. she looks like she'd be more comfortable if she was holding a sword. well, indeed, at the moment. but there you go. i don't know what there you go. i don't know what the delay is here. the returning officer is at the podium, ready to roll . but anyway, nothing . to roll. but anyway, nothing. nothing is happening there just as yet. >> they're waiting for me to tell you that we've won thornbury and yate. and i was the campaign manager in that seat, so i'm very happy there. >> you're doing a very good job at advertising all your games. well, some. >> well, not so many. >> well, not so many. >> you know. >> you know. >> well lib dems on 21 at the moment plus 18. labour on 198, conservatives on 34. a couple of

tory big beasts that haven't fallen victoria atkins, the health secretary, has held louth and horncastle, and claire coutinho has held held east surrey. >> just so you know, i mean those are i mean that was something seriously wrong. >> i know they were very, very safe. >> you know, i know victoria atkins was up there with, mark francois in the safety zone wasn't it. >> labour's gained litchfield from michael fabricant with a swing of over 20. oh, really? >> wow , wow. oh, michael. >> wow, wow. oh, michael. >> wow, wow. oh, michael. >> that's sad . i again, when i >> that's sad. i again, when i was a very young man. >> here we are. here we go. >> here we are. here we go. >> constituency. >> constituency. >> and i would like to invite the lord mayor of portsmouth to declare the results. >> thank you. natalie >> thank you. natalie >> i, councillorjason >> i, councillor jason fazackerley, >> i, councillorjason fazackerley, returning officer for the portsmouth north constituency. i hereby declare that the total number of votes given to each candidate was as follows simon james dodd,

liberal democrat, 3031. amanda louise martin, labour party 14,495. penelope mary morden, commonly known as penny morden, the conservative party candidate 13,715. duncan stuart robinson, the green party 1851. melvin stuart todd reform uk 8501. >> i therefore give public nofice

>> i therefore give public notice that amanda louise martin is duly elected as the member of parliament for the portsmouth nonh parliament for the portsmouth north constituency . north constituency. >> wow . that north constituency. >> wow. that is arguably one of the future leadership contenders for the conservatives. out. penny mordaunt has lost her seat of portsmouth north to labour, that rather constitutes things for who might take the party forward because, well, in many polls she was the favourite. >> well, she, she was in many respects wasn't she . but perhaps respects wasn't she. but perhaps more of that as we've been talking about all night, more of the sort of one conservative ilk which , you know, maybe that's which, you know, maybe that's not the way forward, i don't know, but of course, suella braverman has kept her seat. yes and was making, i mean, clearly making a bit of a pitch. >> kemi badenoch kept her seat. she's another leadership contender. >> yeah, absolutely . so there >> yeah, absolutely. so there you go. well, let's just have a very brief listen in to the now

labour mp staff at polling stations. >> the police and the staff here this evening. and to my amazing campaign team and beautiful family, of whom there are far too many to thank personally, but without whom they wouldn't be possible to have this journey. and also a thank you to my agent . i journey. and also a thank you to my agent. i would journey. and also a thank you to my agent . i would also like to my agent. i would also like to thank the other candidates. it's never easy putting yourself forward for public office. i would also like to thank penny mordaunt for her 14 years of service and the amazing role she played in the coronation of our. king. my campaign was one of positivity, change and hope for the people of portsmouth north. so i thank you from the bottom of my heart for those who went out and voted for that change. whether you voted for labour or

not in this election, i want to say that as your mp, i will work for you . portsmouth is my home. for you. portsmouth is my home. it's where everybody all right then? >> well, that is the image from portsmouth north, where penny mordaunt has just lost her seat to labour at 4:10. let's introduce our new superstar panel for the rest of our time i know. well, let's call it that. >> why not? >> why not? >> superstar cross—party panel. if you don't mind. so we're joined by labour peer lord glasman , former chairman of the glasman, former chairman of the 19. well, chairman of the 1922. no, not former former former now . no, not former former former now. yes. former chairman of the 1922 committee, sir graham brady, the man with all of the letters in his hand. >> do we have to call you lord brady now, >> lord b, you can call me whatever you like. having just been ennobled , arlene foster been ennobled, arlene foster also joins us, along with former environment secretary george eustice. we're going to catch up on all of the night's events. >> but first we've got a party

to attend in essex . let's see to attend in essex. let's see what patrick and michelle have got for us. evening, you two. morning. i should say you two. >> yeah , absolutely. look, thank >> yeah, absolutely. look, thank you very, very much. this is essex. this is the gb news watch party, and it's been a fantastic event. so far. i am joined by alex burghart, who has been re—elected as a conservative mp for brentwood and ongar. alex, first and foremost, congratulations to you. it's been a pretty bucha been a pretty brutal night elsewhere. so it's. yeah, to good see. good, good news for you. why did you do so well, when so many others have fallen? and just on that note, i am hearing in my ear that apparently therese coffey has lost to the greens and johnny mercer has lost as well. although robert jenrick has held on to his seat. so it's a mixed bag there. but why did you manage to succeed where others failed? well look, i am saying i had a good night when my majority went down from 29,000 to just under 6000. >> is stretching it a bit. patrick but i think in essex we've had some success and i

managed to hold on. >> mark francois has held on kemi's held on. >> i think richard holden's held on by the tiniest of. >> we think it's 2020 votes after a recount . after a recount. >> so you know, but you know, essex is meant to be rock solid conservative. so these are big shifts in the wrong direction for us because all of these are on much reduced majorities. >> let's talk about the rebuild because it's going to have to be one someone who could have been at the centre of that penny morgan has just lost. so that's not going to happen. what next for you? >> for me personally? >> for me personally? >> well, you've just got to wait and see what it looks like when the dust settles at the beginning of next week. >> i think we're all meeting in parliament on tuesday. >> first thing we have to do is elect the speaker, and that will be an opportunity for us to see who's left and how we're going to reconstitute the party. >> i mean, look, let's let's be honest, the results seem to be going one way. realistically, rishi sunak's got to resign, right? >> i've no doubt that the prime minister will want to stand aside. >> you want. yeah. okay. and you would you would think that's the best thing for.

>> yeah. >> yeah. >> and but you got to look at the timing of that and i think you've got to have really i don't think that we want to have a sort of snap leadership contest. >> i think the party has to come to terms with what's happened, has to have a very serious think about its future, how it's going to reform itself, present itself, articulate its vision. >> and i think if we try and go through the motions of a leadership contest too quickly, we might stumble on that. >> i think we're going to be in opposition for five years. we have plenty of time to get this right, and that's what we need to do. >> just looking at a couple of the people that are left as yourself, there's suella braverman, there's robert jenrick . would you consider jenrick. would you consider standing, do you think? no, absolutely not. so that leaves potentially suella braverman and robert jenrick are i'm not really sure you should be sort of using my name in the same bracket as them. >> and they're, you know, they're leadership contenders. >> i'm not. >> i'm not. >> okay. so you would, broadly speaking, be on board with the party moving in that direction is what i'm trying to get at, because you're at a bit of a

crossroads now. you could you could go you could go a bit more wet. yeah. or you could maybe go for them. >> it's very , very clear that we >> it's very, very clear that we have ceded a huge number of votes to reform. and in doing so , votes to reform. and in doing so, left wing mps are being elected . left wing mps are being elected. and if the right wants to have any future in this country, it's going to have to overcome that problem. and we can't. you know, i just don't believe that this labour party is as popular as having a three figure majority. i just don't believe it. and time and time again, i campaigned a lot in my seat. but i also visited other people's seat. you found very little enthusiasm for the labour party, but you know, they've they've got this majority. it's now . got this majority. it's now. yeah their, their parliament to make the best of but we have to show that they are deeply limited, that they have very few policies and that that actually we can become the ones with the vision again and appeal to a broad base and get re—elected as soon as possible. >> again, i'm just hearing it's

a moving picture here, which i'm sure you'll understand that apparently the conservative party has now matched its record of seven former cabinet ministers losing their seats. it is expected that that may well get worse. where did this all go wrong? >> yeah. look, we are going to have a long time to chew that oven have a long time to chew that over, but i think we've had, you know, a number of, obvious mistakes made by successive administrations and they've led us to the point where the conservative coalition has broken down and, you know, that we've we've lost bits of the centre and we've lost bits of the right. and that's that's no bafis the right. and that's that's no basis for winning power. >> okay, okay. i'm just getting this in my ear now, apparently andrea jenkins has lost her seat. therese coffey, i think, lost it to the greens, from what i can gather, which is one heck of a shift, actually, i must say. but you look at nigel farage now, he's won. richard tice has won in boston. lee anderson's won in ashfield. let's just wait and see if we get any more than that as well.

i think rupert lowe might have won as well. from what you're gathering, i think that's great yarmouth, but i'll have to check that again. emphasise. sorry, it's been a slightly long night here, but how much of a problem is that going to be for the conservative party in their rebuild? because with respect, you've got some people there that many people might regard as being quote unquote true conservatives just sitting in a different party actually in parliament. >> yeah. look, one of the things that the conservative party is going to have to do is work out how it's going to reach out to a reform voters. we can't continue in a situation where we have in my constituency, i think 11,000 people voted for reform this time . reform came second, and in time. reform came second, and in my seat i managed to hold on, but in lots of other seats where that's happened, conservative candidates have been losing. if we want to get back into power, we want to get back into power, we are going to have to have an agenda that appeals to those voters. okay. >> all right. look, thank you for your time so far this evening. much appreciated. back to you in paddington. now to stephen and camilla. >> lovely, patrick. thanks very much indeed, should we talk to

richard tice, chairman of the reform party , who joins us now? reform party, who joins us now? richard, good to see you this morning. still waiting, of course, for your result, aren't we? but you look like a happy man. you look like you're expecting a victory. oh, you've had your result declared. >> and so i am now the member of parliament, elected for the great constituency of boston and skegness. so it's, it's the proudest moment of my life. and i've overturned the largest ever tory tory majority to be overturned at a general election. >> well done . richard tice. >> well done. richard tice. sorry it's been such a long morning here that we've forgotten who we've announced and who we haven't. yes. where do you think reform to one. >> richard, where do you think reform might top out, richard? >> because we had the exit poll predicting 13 seats. obviously we know you've won. we know that lee anderson has won in ashfield. we know that nigel farage has won in clacton. what do you think your vote share might be? do you know how many

people might have voted for you overall? what's your projections on it ? on it? >> what we're hearing and obviously it's changing by by the half hour. what we're heanng the half hour. what we're hearing is that the vote share may end up around the 17% mark. and that means that, well over 5 million, possibly over 6 million people have voted for reform. and if you think where we've come from, three years ago, we were at 0. and so we're just incredibly proud of that so many millions of people looking for, looking for hope voted with their heart today. looking for hope voted with their heart today . and our their heart today. and our ridiculous electoral system means that we get more votes than people like the liberal democrats. but something like, i don't know, about a 10th of the seats or something. so that'll be a massive topic going forwards in the debate. but i think we're going to sort of celebrate these wins, these successes. hopefully we'll get some more. and, yeah, it's a it's a really significant moment. >> how do you convince people,

richard? because last time pr was discussed in a, in a, in a national conversation here in the uk, i mean, the conclusion. well, i mean, apart from that, you lost the, you know, the referendum went the other way, but but the conclusion was that people like to vote for a named person. they, they wanted to put their say against their, put their say against their, put their cross against a person that they could relate to rather than just a party. how do you how do you change people's minds on that? >> well, it's incredibly simple, actually. we just adopt the system that they use in scotland for holyrood or in wales for the welsh assembly elections, where you have two thirds constituency representatives and one third on a regional list. so you get the best of both worlds. there's a variety of different systems, but the idea that you can have millions of millions of votes in just a handful of seats and get more votes than than other parties or equal, and they get ten times or 15 times more representatives just highlights the absurdity of it . and i think

the absurdity of it. and i think we've in a sense, everybody is realising just how flawed our electoral system is. that's why we worry about turnout and things . so we worry about turnout and things. so there's a lot of work to do on that debate. but frankly, i'm i've no doubt at all if we had a referendum next week on it, we'd win it hands down. >> really, even though we've seen the birth of coalitions of chaos over in europe, i mean, it's quite funny that you're trying to ape a system that is beloved of the eu. and yet, of course , you're such a vociferous course, you're such a vociferous anti—eu campaigner. >> yeah, but look how long welsh labour have been in charge in wales under a pr system. look how long the snp have been in charge in scotland under a pr system. so it's horses for courses, but ultimately people need to have trust and confidence in the democratic system. and the number of times ihear system. and the number of times i hear on the doors people say, well, i want to vote for you, but it's a wasted vote. now, even under first past the post, we're getting a bridgehead. and from that bridgehead we will build and you'll have heard it

elsewhere. but the reality is, while the tory party will be deeply, deeply divided after this disastrous defeat, we're going to rapidly become the opposition in the house of commons to the labour party over the next few years and towards the next few years and towards the next few years and towards the next general election. >> a lot of people scoff at that, and have scoffed at that since . i mean, that, and have scoffed at that since. i mean, nigel that, and have scoffed at that since . i mean, nigel farage since. i mean, nigel farage first said it, you know, for 4 or 5 weeks ago. however, i mean, it is interesting when you look at certainly the initial swathe of results that came through where reform was coming second to labour in certainly in a lot of the red wall seats. i mean, it does beg a question as to what what people really want, what what people really want, what they can really associate with. >> well , look, people scoffed at >> well, look, people scoffed at me three years ago when i launched the new brand reform. and look what we've achieved in just three years. so i'd suggest anybody who wants to underestimate us and scoff at what we might achieve in the next 4 or 5 years, i think

they'd better think very carefully. and it's incredible what's been achieved in some of those northern seats. and some of the labour majorities have actually fallen , not gone up, actually fallen, not gone up, even though the trend is towards laboun even though the trend is towards labour. and that's because actually what people want, they want hope, they want common sense policies. people want change and people want something to believe in and to vote with passion with their heart. and i don't think we've heard much passion, from or about, sir keir starmer. so let's , let's wait starmer. so let's, let's wait and see. but i think anybody that underestimates reform uk is making a big mistake. >> nigel farage said in an interview with christopher hope on gb news on thursday, richard, that the party needed to be professionalised, that he felt he had inherited a mess, and that you could have at least vetted your candidates better. that professionalisation. what form should it take? >> well, look, we paid a vetting firm £144,000 to do the vetting job, and they took our money. they didn't. they took the data,

and then they didn't deliver the work. so. but look, the reality is, we as i said, we've been an entrepreneurial, political start—up. we've achieved what nobody believed was possible. we're growing rapidly and you continuously improve all the time. you professionalise. and that will continue very rapidly. so look, we're making great progress. here's the other thing though. actually, we admit it when we get things wrong, we make mistakes. we admit it, we learn from it. try not to make it again. unlike other parties, we try and cover it up, pretend everything's fine. you know, sometimes, actually, you've just got to admit it. when we haven't got to admit it. when we haven't got it perfect. and that's the way. you know what? i think that's actually why people quite like us. and my word has spread literally by osmosis, because we've had almost no money. i mean, for the last three years, we've had we've had less than £100,000 at any one time in the bank account. you know, i've gone weeks and weeks when i'm wondering how we're going to make the payroll. so what we've achieved is utterly remarkable. i'm incredibly proud of it. and onwards and upwards. >> well, we shall wait to see what the final result is. but, looking pretty good for seats so far. according to what we're

seeing so far. richard, good to seeing so far. richard, good to see you. thanks very much indeed. and on the reform issue, i want to ask arlene foster what you what are you hearing out of northern ireland, arlene? >> well, i'm hearing, which i think is quite surprising that ian paisley, who's been there since his father left the scene. is likely to lose a seat to jim allister . allister. >> jim allister, of course, is the leader of the tuv, which is traditional unionist voice. and they are in an alliance with reform uk. so that could add to reform uk. so that could add to reform uk. so that could add to reform uk tally if indeed he's going to take that seat, >> that would be quite. and also, i mean, good news for the dup gavin robinson. >> yeah, it's been a mixed evening for the dup, it has to be said. but it's really good news that gavin robinson has retained a seat in east belfast, the seat that was formerly held by jeffrey donaldson, the former leader, has gone to the alliance party. but the alliance party lost their seat in north down to an independent unionist. so

there's a bit of a change in northern ireland and that doesn't normally happen in northern ireland. so, it's been a very interesting night all around, >> george and indeed graham, we hear that theresa coffey has gone. johnny mercer has gone both to labour. robert jenrick holds his seat. we know about grant shapps alex chalk. he's also gone and we reflected earlier that gillian keegan had gone. reaction to that george, first of all, well look it's a devastating night for the conservatives. >> i think in some ways, not unexpected in that we've had consistently poor poll ratings now for two years and, whatever rishi sunak's tried, he hasn't managed to turn that around. you know , i think the campaign know, i think the campaign hasn't been a success and not here nor the build up to it, but fundamentally as well, you know , fundamentally as well, you know, we've been in power for 14 years. we were trying to win a fifth election in a row, and no party in modern history has managed to do that. so, you know, the overall political cycle was against us. it's been exacerbated by, you know, probably quite a poorly executed

campaign. obviously for us, we're seeing good colleagues who we're seeing good colleagues who we know who've done good things, lose their seats. and that's always disappointing. but i think none of these results are particularly unexpected. >> what do you make of it? i mean , where should the blame lie mean, where should the blame lie for this, or is it the inevitable cycle of politics? >> well, i think the swing is bigger than than you would expect. and i look at this in the context. i came into parliament in 1997 amidst the carnage. then and i mean, my sense then was that the public, of course, knows what it wants to do. it was time for a change of party in charge. but so often i think things go further than they would in a healthy world. and it's not good for any to party have the kind of majority that labour's getting tonight. it will do damage to the labour government. it will make it complacent. it'll make it hubristic. it means it won't have the strength of opposition that it needs. and i think that's a very, very bad outcome for everyone. and looking at a number of the individual results, just looking at i'm

heartbroken to see the result in my own former constituency in altrincham and sale, which has gone labour. we had a superb candidate, oliver carroll, there, who should have won and he's lost by a margin which is less than the size of the reform vote, and we'll see that in constituency after constituency there are reform candidates who have simply ensured that people that they largely agree with are not representing the seat, and people they completely disagree with are. >> maurice, are you just winning this by default ? this by default? >> no, not at all. i mean, i don't remember graham really objecting to boris's majority. i don't remember you objecting to previous majority rac. >> it's not a particular problem, but, you know, it's a strange night. >> labour's holding quite flat in the north. and reform a really very strong there . but really very strong there. but labour's really doing extraordinarily well in conservative heartlands in wide across the south. the labour vote is up by more than 10, but

is that anyone but tories factor playing a role , playing a role, >> i don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> i think i think this isn't a new labour government. it's going to be a labour government. they've talked a lot about , you they've talked a lot about, you know, in the last election, do you remember a new economic model and a better deal for workers? >> graham, do you remember that ? >> graham, do you remember that? >> graham, do you remember that? >> well, you didn't deliver. yeah. and you really didn't do anything about it. so labour's actually got a commitment to wages, conditions of work. and the thing that you could never do, which is an industrial strategy, which i think is a is a really good offer. so look what we've got to look at is this is the worst conservative defeat for 230 years. it's not just a bad campaign. it's not just a bad campaign. it's not just oh, rishi sunak didn't turn it round and you had massive ascendancy in 2019. it was completely yours . you'd gone completely yours. you'd gone into our heartlands. brexit, new economic model, better deal for workers. nothing so this is a catastrophe. it's the deeply

catastrophic night for the conservatives in your heartlands. not just it's everywhere. >> and i don't think george or i are going to say it's a good night for the. >> no, no, no, no. >> what i'm saying is it's not it's not a bad comms, bad campaign. no no, no, that wasn't my point. >> i said it had been exacerbated . exacerbated. >> what you've got is not healthy at all. >> no, i said it had been exacerbated by that. but look fundamentally here, the pr, i think the i think the reason this has become worse than the, you know, than it otherwise might have been is that factor of reform. and in some ways there's no point us complaining about it because we advocate a first past the post system under a first past the post system, the big parties that want to be in government have got to hold together sometimes quite complex coalitions. labour have this two. you've got the blairites, the corbyn wing, you've got the co—operative wing, the conservatives have got different strands of opinion that they have to pull together and hold together and when you lose that coalition and fragments start to break away, some of them will switch to the liberal democrats. a big chunk of conservative

voters have gone to reform . voters have gone to reform. well, that does actually take you down to a much lower ebb . you down to a much lower ebb. that's how first past the post works. when it turns against you, it can be very, very brutal indeed. and that's what we're seeing tonight. >> i'm making a different point to first boss post, which i love and i defend and i want to keep absolutely. it's a sense of place. and this idea that we're going to have i mean graham i want to hear it could it's not thatis want to hear it could it's not that is that you did have a coalition in 2019. and that was between the tory shires and the northern working class. you had a new coalition and you just didn't care about the working class party, and you lost and you lost both. >> no, no, you lost both. all right. it was a coalition. >> you've lost. >> you've lost. >> you've lost. it >> you've lost. it was a coalition to get brexit done and to make us a self—governing democracy again, which was done. >> well, look, there's still a lot to talk about very clearly, gentlemen, but we're going to just take a short break for now and head over to tom harwood who can crunch a few numbers for us. >> well, it seems like a very long time ago that the exit poll declared there would be 410 labour seats, one of the largest

labour seats, one of the largest labour majorities in the history of the country. but since then we've had real world results and we've had real world results and we've been able to update this exit poll number through to our seat prediction and look at that change. the labour party up 12 seats on the exit poll. the conservative party down on the exit poll. the liberals up on the exit poll. and look at that reform number. look at that reform number. look at that reform change. we were on the exit poll on 13. our seat prediction now says reform five seats, four of which have declared martin baxter of electoral calculus . these are electoral calculus. these are your numbers. what do they say? >> well, they say that the exit poll was, by and large, fairly accurate, but not completely accurate, but not completely accurate, and the conservatives have done a little bit worse so far than the exit poll. reform have also done a little bit worse than the liberal democrats done a little bit better. so the reform in particular are have won four seats. they might win a fifth seat, though it's not quite clear where that fifth

seatis quite clear where that fifth seat is going to be. so they've not done as well as the exit polls suggested. one reason for thatis polls suggested. one reason for that is that the exit poll works on what's called an expected seats basis, which is a bit like expected goals in football, that if you've got three seats worth a third of a chance of winning in each one, that counts as one expected seat. >> but they could all be lost. >> but they could all be lost. >> exactly, so that reform may have suffered a little bit from that technical, feature there. lib dems doing a little bit better. they're winning in various places , and the various places, and the conservatives not doing quite as well as the exit polls suggested. >> well, should we have a look at the vote share prediction as well? because this has moved a little bit. the labour party still on around 35.5% of the vote. that is a historic low for this kind of majority. >> it's absolutely a very low level to get a majority. this big. it's slightly bigger than, we had it at the start of the night, but there are 11% ahead of the conservatives but you see the fracturing of british politics on the centre right. the conservatives and reform have got 39% of the vote in

total. but it's quite split, labour and the other centre left parties are over 50. but because labouris parties are over 50. but because labour is the party with more votes than anybody else, it is winning the vast majority of the seats. >> and yet that 20 point lead that we saw in the polls has become a ten point lead in real life . life. >> yes, over 11% as we're seeing it. so the polls clearly have overestimated labour's lead a bit. it's still enough for labour to get a sizeable majority, but not quite the massive majority that it looked like, before the polls closed. >> well, should we have a little look at how the map of the country has changed colour because this was completely white before, we're now seeing a spread of colour. we can see these four reform seats, particularly in the east of the country, but also a splodge of yellow . all of these seats were yellow. all of these seats were blue at the start of the night. the lib dems picking up around cambridgeshire and north norfolk as well. >> yeah, so we're seeing a lot.

>> we're going to come back to stephen and camilla. >> all right. tom, thanks very much indeed. let's take you to richmond and northallerton and richmond and northallerton and richmond . sunak the prime richmond. sunak the prime minister for now is about to get on the stage for the declaration of his newly formed seat , of his newly formed seat, richmond and northallerton, of course, i mean , there's count course, i mean, there's count binface. well, there is i mean, you would you would expect the prime minister to win it. it was questioned in some of these mrp polls a few weeks ago whether he would whether he would lose it. i mean, that seems very unlikely now, however, that majority is going to be sliced right down, you would imagine, graham. >> i mean, you were the person who had to hold on to the no confidence letters in your capacity as chairman of the 1922. on reflection, was it wrong to ditch boris and has rishi sunak got to bear some of the blame for all this? >> well, i suppose i should, on a factual note, point out that the confidence vote was won by boris. i know it wasn't a matter

of not convincingly enough, but not convincingly enough, but it was really what happened subsequently. and i think his handung subsequently. and i think his handling of the chris pincher affair, that really was what brought it to an end. and it was the resignation of a very, very large number of ministers from the cabinet and elsewhere in the government that brought it to a final end. >> yes, it was earlier on, actually, one of our i can't think of it was was it was it brandon brandon brown, who was saying, well, look, you know, stabbing someone in the back, in effect, to paraphrase him, is what is what loses confidence amongst the voters? >> no . i was in amongst the voters? >> no. i was in boris amongst the voters? >> no . i was in boris johnson's >> no. i was in boris johnson's cabinet and actually remained loyal to him to the end. i wasn't one of those who resigned on him. and that's because it's not that he hadn't made mistakes and things weren't going, but he also had strengths. and i think it's very difficult for a governing party to change leader while in government. i think our constitution is designed so that you know, a party, when it loses power, can sort out someone who's fit to be leader of the opposition, first tested them,

stretched them as we did with david cameron, and then they're ready to assume the position as prime minister. it's very, very difficult to just sort of spin somebody in as a as a leader and, you know, immediate prime minister from scratch when you're the governing party and we've done it far too many times, and that's eroded our, you know, our position. >> okay. we're just going to move on to the chancellor's seat. camilla. >> yes . so we've got two tory >> yes. so we've got two tory big beasts side by side here. we've got jeremy hunt in godalming and ash, which is a newly constituted boundary. and he is under huge threat from the liberal democrats. we're going to hear his account in just a moment, which seems to be happening simultaneously, as the prime minister is due to hear his count in richmond and northallerton. so we're just going to see which one comes first. it's jeremy hunt, going to see which one comes first. it's jeremy hunt , let's first. it's jeremy hunt, let's listen . listen. in. >> any count . star.

>> any count. star. >> any count. star. >> all right. just waiting for the returning officer to, start to have their say. he's there at the podium. he's ready to go. but this one, if, as predicted. oh, he's changed his mind. he's off again. >> microphone's not working. >> microphone's not working. >> be back in a minute. >> be back in a minute. >> the mic makes no working. >> the mic makes no working. >> this would be the first sitting chancellor to lose his seat, wouldn't it, if he goes. i mean, it's almost as significant as the. >> yeah, i've seen quite a lot of this, but i don't really understand in some ways why it would be the, the first. i mean, people lose elections and sometimes badly. and it suggests that thereby giving notice that the number of votes i don't know whether we can take any hints from the fact that jeremy hunt seems to be holding a speech. >> but let's just see. >> but let's just see. >> i thought that too, actually. >> i thought that too, actually. >> oh, all right. >> oh, all right. >> and there's rishi, both at the same time. >> yes, they could be happening at exactly the same time, which is, 4000, which is ironic, isn't it? in all of this?

>> follows paul, david, liberal democrats, 22,402. hunt, jeremy. >> richard strensham, commonly known as jeremy hunt, the conservative party 23,293. >> tucker. tucker >> tucker. tucker >> ruby alice gabriel, commonly known as ruby tucker, the green party 1240. >> let's leave that. jeremy hunts one. let's have a listen to the prime minister's 2058 ryo sebastian justin goldhammer, commonly known as rio goldhammer

yorkshire party, 132 jonathan david harvey, commonly known as count binface . count binface. >> count binface party 308. >> count binface party 308. >> graham nichols, commonly known as sir archibald stanton, the official monster raving loony party 99 nicholas omilana, commonly known as nico omilana 160. >> brian neil richmond, independent 222. >> rishi sunak , conservative >> rishi sunak, conservative party 23,059. >> lee martin taylor reform uk 7142. >> thomas james wilson, commonly known as tom wilson, labour party 10,874. i hereby declare

that rishi sunak is duly elected. congratulations. and we address the stand. okay, so rishi sunak, the prime minister andindeed rishi sunak, the prime minister and indeed the chancellor have both held their seats. >> let's just hear what the prime minister has to say. >> could i start by thanking the returning officer and all the team who've been working here at the count and at the polling stations today? >> you make our democracy possible . i would also like to possible. i would also like to thank the police, who have ensured that we can conduct this ballot here in north yorkshire, but also across the country in safety on this difficult night, i'd like to express my gratitude to the people of the richmond and northallerton constituency for your continued support. since i moved here, a decade ago, you have made me and my family feel so at home and i look forward to continuing to serve as your member of parliament. it is an enormous privilege . i'm grateful to my privilege. i'm grateful to my agent and constituency team, and i congratulate my opponents here

on the energetic and very good natured campaigns that they have run. the labour party has won this general election, and i have called sir keir starmer to congratulate him on his victory today. power will change hands in a peaceful and orderly manner, with goodwill on all sides. that is something that should give us all confidence in our country's stability and future. the british people have delivered a sobering verdict tonight. there is much to learn and reflect on, and i take responsibility for the loss to the many good, hard working conservative candidates who lost tonight. despite their tireless efforts , their local records of efforts, their local records of delivery and their dedication to their communities. i am sorry. i will now head down to london where i will say more about tonight's result before i leave the job of prime minister, to which i have given my all. i will then return here to my family's home, and i look

forward to spending more time with you all in the weeks, months and years ahead. thank you . you. >> there you go. i mean, that's quite something that he, the prime minister, retaining his seat, a 12,000 plus majority. so actually pretty healthy as far as that goes. but conceding defeat i don't often hear that calling sir keir starmer to offer his congratulations . offer his congratulations. graham, what's your reaction to that ? that? >> i thought it was very dignified. i think, when you watch these things, it's always very telling. of course, they're all personal and human stories as well. and i also thought the very clear riposte to those people who've sneered that rishi would be off to california. >> yes , yes, i know he wants to >> yes, yes, i know he wants to be back in yorkshire with his family and he says he will serve those people in the weeks , those people in the weeks, months and years to come. >> it was a sobering message delivered by the electorate. the prime minister said there's much to learn and reflect on. i take

responsibility for the loss, he said. and i am sorry, george. >> yeah, i agree with graham. it was a dignified sort of speech. i think, it's obviously right to concede at this stage, given what we know about the way it's going, i think it'd be quite normal in this situation for the prime minister to have rung and congratulated the leader of the opposition in these circumstances, and i don't think he really had any other option in a speech like this. and to accept responsibility, you know, for it having obviously been prime minister and party leader in this campaign, i think , you in this campaign, i think, you know, most would most would, would do that. it's not a time when you would say, oh, well, somebody else is to blame or this or that could have happened.soi this or that could have happened. so i think, you know , happened. so i think, you know, clearly it's, it's a good result for him in his seat. and i and i agree that he seems to be suggesting that he's not going to flounce off, as some have speculated, that he's actually going to stay there and represent the people of richmond over the next few years. >> you're the only one at this table, arlene, who's been in a similar position to that

gentleman there. i mean , how gentleman there. i mean, how doesit gentleman there. i mean, how does it how do you sort of, respond to the position he's found himself in? >> well, i tweeted earlier on today, first of all that i found it very strange. >> i wasn't able to vote in this election because i'm a peer and i was disenfranchised by that, but also that i was thinking of all the candidates that had stood and their families , stood and their families, because the toll it takes on families is quite incredible. and i'm sure everybody around this table would agree with that, because when you put yourself forward, it's not just you, it's your family that's going into the arena as well. and keir starmer will learn that very quickly. he's now and he's been very good at keeping his children out of the public eye. ihope children out of the public eye. i hope he continues with that. i always tried to do the same because once you put them out there, then they're out there and you really do need to protect their privacy. so i do feel for the prime minister and his wife and the girls, who are quite young . and, it's a sad quite young. and, it's a sad night for him. but of course, it's his politics. there has to

be winners. there has to be losers . and that's the game, losers. and that's the game, it's a tough game, but we do it because we love it. and, that's what that's what i'm sure rishi sunak would say as well . sunak would say as well. >> shall we also reflect on chancellor jeremy hunt's squeezing in in godalming and ash morris. so he won 23,293 votes against the liberal democrats on 22,402. so that's a very tiny margin, i mean, the labour party have been banging on about the conservatives economic record, talking about the mini—budget having bankrupted britain. nothing's working. it would have been a good reason, wouldn't it, to. oh, actually, in fact, we have what jeremy hunt had to say on the stage as he accepted that win humility to ask yourself why, so that you can earn it back again . back again. >> i was incredibly proud to serve under rishi sunak, but i

wish the incoming labour government well . keir starmer government well. keir starmer and rachel reeves are decent people and committed public servants who have changed the labour party for the better. whatever our policy differences, we all now need them to succeed. ihopein we all now need them to succeed. i hope in particular they use their majority to make much needed reforms to the nhs in a way that is sometimes difficult for conservative governments to do to. paul follows i offer my congratulations on being a tenacious and determined adversary and i wish him well as i do all the other candidates . i do all the other candidates. finally, a message to my family. i'm so proud of my wife despite not being born in this country, she's turned out to be the most formidable canvasser i know alongside sue and andrew and john, of course, and a message to my children who i sincerely hope are asleep. now, this may

seem like a tough day for our family as we move out of downing street, but it isn't. we are incredibly lucky to live in a country where decisions like this are made not by bombs or bullets, but by thousands of ordinary citizens peacefully placing crosses in boxes on bits of paper. brave ukrainians are dying every day to defend their right to do what we did yesterday. and we must never take that for granted. don't be sad . this is the magic of sad. this is the magic of democracy. thank you . matt. democracy. thank you. matt. >> the magic of democracy. they're being celebrated by jeremy hunt, having just squeezed in to win his seat in godalming. and ash, you know , godalming. and ash, you know, really, it's extraordinary to me how little reflection there is. >> i mean, he was the chancellor of the exchequer. worst defeat for 230 years. and it's all it's very good that he acknowledges it's a wonderful thing, the

magic of democracy, the magic of our country is democratic. it's the removal. >> varne rishi sunak has conceded defeat, though, hasn't he? he said he's phoned keir starmer. he's expressed regret, responsibilities taken and says he's sorry. >> seem to me that there's any understanding in the conservative party of what's happened to you. i mean, this is the worst defeat for 230 years. you've lost both wings of your new coalition. you're besieged virtually in every. is there a safety? no, no, i think boris is missing the point here. >> there'll be plenty of time for reflection. and both the prime minister and jeremy hunt have just said that. i thought that was an incredibly gracious speech. he actually also made the point that keir starmer has changed the labour party. and, you know, i think the country at large are much more relaxed about a keir starmer led labour party than they would have been with jeremy corbyn. that's not an insignificant thing for jeremy hunt to concede, and i thought it was a very, you know, gracious speech. and he made the point, you know, that the labour party have changed and he was wishing them well. i mean, i

think that's something you should say. well, fair, you know, fair play to him. and for us as expect that look for us as conservatives, there will be plenty of time in the months and even years ahead to reflect on what went wrong and to sort ourselves out of the scale of what's just happened. >> this is a historic night, george. your scale of defeat. as i say, it wasn't even the conservative party in 1830 when the corner election came. >> i mean, i don't think any of us were pretending otherwise , us were pretending otherwise, >> but that's been baked in, maurice, because this isn't that surprising. i mean, nobody was sort of clutching their pearls and going, oh my goodness. when the exit poll came. >> not surprising. >> not surprising. >> in 2009, weeks , hasn't it? >> in 2009, weeks, hasn't it? >> in 2009, weeks, hasn't it? >> think about it. historically have been worse. in 2019, you had a huge victory. have been worse. in 2019, you had a huge victory . this is in had a huge victory. this is in one parliament. you've disintegrated. and 2019 was labour's worst result since the 19305. 1930s. >> i 19305. >> i think what you've got to bearin >> i think what you've got to bear in mind as well is what we've seen is a massively more volatile politics. i'm afraid that's where we're likely to be for some time to and some time to come.

>> just just to add a fairness, labour's vote has only gone up 3% since. >> i was just going to say that, you know, this is this is that's why i'm concentrating on the scale of the conservative collapse , because that's the collapse, because that's the distinctive feature within one parliament. >> and what do you think ? what >> and what do you think? what do you think is the cause of that? >> well , i that? >> well, i mean, there might be many things. and as george says , many things. and as george says, we will reflect complicated. but the obvious thing which we've seen tonight is a split of the votes on the right. and if that happens, it leads to very bad results. and for a very long time, the labour party suffered from a split of votes on the left. >> so do you remember the sdp? >> so do you remember the sdp? >> i do, it's still about i've been around for so long that i interviewed jeremy hunt for the candidates list. >> oh did you what was he like back then ? back then? >> well, i led him through. >> well, i led him through. >> take some responsibility, graham. >> yeah, i think i did. >> yeah, i think i did. >> i did think it was quite interesting that it reflected on because obviously he was so passionate about his job as

health secretary, that he reflected on the fact that he hopes labour will reform the nhs in a way that conservatives can't. >> i think actually that's, you know, a really important point , know, a really important point, because, you know, the truth is that spending on the nhs has almost doubled since 2010. we've continually put more and more money in, and not just the money that was on the side of the brexit bus. they had all that and then more, and it's never seems to be enough. and for conservatives, if you try and ever broach this idea about whether you should fund it slightly differently or do things you're accused of privatising the nhs, so it becomes something that it is difficult for conservatives and there's a labour is going to have that debate. >> you're absolutely mistaken. i mean, that was fantasy world from jeremy hunt. labour's going to come in and say we're going to come in and say we're going to reform the nhs. >> no. well that's what we're that's what we're saying. >> yes, there will be lying but they'll be. >> no, the test will be on them now. are they serious about trying to address problems or are they just going to keep ducking and diving of the agenda? >> what ? you know, we're in this

>> what? you know, we're in this transformed world with the war in ukraine, the competition for precious metals, the realisation that globalisation has collapsed, that china and the threat of china . these are the threat of china. these are the issues.i threat of china. these are the issues. i think it's going to be nhs reform mars. >> i have to say, if you don't reform the nhs, then we're going to keep putting more and more money into it and taking it away from other things. i mean, that's the fundamental problem. if you're in northern ireland, over half of the block grant goes into the nhs . not it's not goes into the nhs. not it's not sustainable. there has to be reform as well as funding. surely that's the case. >> i'm, i'm surely there's a huge question about the welfare state and how it's going to be funded and all manner of reforms. what was amazing about this campaign, it was barely mentioned. well, some people say so for jeremy, we are the nhs with a state attached. >> but let's just hold that thought for a moment because we're going to go to our gb news yorkshire correspondent now, annie, anna riley, who was at that count in richmond and can let us know what the atmosphere was like as the prime minister took to the stage and gave a

rather sombre speech, anna. >> he certainly did. camilla he certainly looked quite defeated despite despite his win in this seat, he was rather sombre. he conceded defeat to the labour party. he said that he'd spoken to keir starmer and that power would be handed over peacefully to him. just a bit of background on rishi sunak and richmond and northallerton. it's a traditional, safe, conservative seat in north yorkshire. it's a true blue area, a rural area where conservatives have always been here. and rishi sunak first got the seat in 2015. he was elected again in 2019 with a 63% majority and he became the youngest prime minister of the modern era when he took over the conservative party in 2022. it

was in 2014 that he was selected as the conservative party candidate for this area, and of course, after liz truss's resignation, he sparked the tory leadership race and was appointed as leader of the party and prime minister in october 2022, the first hindu and british asian to reach that position in uk history, and in his speech he thanked everybody that had taken part in the count this evening. he said it had been a difficult night and he expressed gratitude to the people in this constituency for their continued support. and he said he looked forward to continuing to serve them as an mp. a5 continuing to serve them as an mp. as i said before, he said labour has won and he'd called keir starmer to congratulate him. and he said the british people deserved more and he said it was a sobering verdict tonight and that he takes responsibility for the loss. and

he said i am sorry. responsibility for the loss. and he said i am sorry . and he said he said i am sorry. and he said next on his agenda, he's heading to down london before leaving his job as prime minister and he said a job to which i have given my all. and then he said after that he will return to northallerton, his family home, where he will spend the months, weeks and years ahead. and in terms of the vote count that he got, conservatives got 23,059 votes. that was followed by the labour party. they got 10,874 votes. and then reform came third with 7142 votes. there was 13 candidates in total that were standing in this constituency. there had been a mixture of surveys that had gone out ahead of this election , one saying of this election, one saying that rishi sunak had lose his seat. but the most recent one

saying that he would keep it and he did. now the constituents here that have voted for him will be looking to see if he can deliver on his promises as an mp. when i've been out speaking to voters in this area ahead of the election, they said that housing was a main issue for them in this rural area. there's a lack of housing and a lack of affordable housing for young people who have been born and bred in this area. but unfortunately cannot buy a home here. there's a lot, a lot of second homes in north yorkshire, which boosts property prices up . which boosts property prices up. there's also concerns around the nhs. the friarage hospital, a&e. >> we're leaving anna where she is mid—sentence. sorry about that, but jacob rees—mogg, is on stage, as you can see. will he hold his seat or will he go? let's listen to the returning officer . officer. >> i will, godfrey being the

acting returning officer at the election of the member of parliament for the north east somerset and hallam constituency, do hereby give nofice constituency, do hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded for each candidate in this constituency is as follows. >> the army branch. the official monster raving loony party 211. edmund stuart cannon, green party 3222. >> nicholas hales. independent 231. >> paul macdonald reform uk 7424. >> stan norris, labour party 20,739. >> woo !

>> woo! >> woo! >> jacob william rees—mogg conservative party candidate 15,400. >> tina romero . liberal >> tina romero. liberal democrats 3878. >> for the total number of valid ballot papers with 51,125, there were 142 rejected ballot papers, and i hereby declare that dan norris is duly elected to serve as the member of parliament for nonh as the member of parliament for north east somerset and hallam constituency . congratulations constituency. congratulations okay, let's leave that and head to sir keir starmer, who we can see there with his wife, victoria, just behind him , just victoria, just behind him, just out of shot. >> we're going to hear from what

he has to say. a man who will be prime minister to bring us to this fantastic result this evening . evening. >> i want to thank obviously my team grant johnson, my agent, all the fantastic people who supported me, named and unnamed in numerous ways . in numerous ways. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> you've done a brilliant job here. thank you . here. thank you. >> thank you . thank you >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you, thank you so much for that reception. >> what an amazing reception. we did it . you campaigned for it. did it. you campaigned for it. you fought for it. you voted for

it. and now it has arrived. change begins now . and it feels change begins now. and it feels good.i change begins now. and it feels good. i have to be honest. four and a half years of work changing the party. this is what it is for a changed labour party ready to serve our country . ready to serve our country. ready to restore britain to the service of working people . service of working people. thank you.thank service of working people. thank you. thank you and across our country, people will be waking up to the news relieved that a weight has been lifted, particularly a burden. finally removed from the shoulders of this great nation. >> who has done this?

>> who has done this? >> and now we can look forward again. walk into the morning, the sunlight of hope pale at first, but getting stronger through the day, shining once again on a country with the opportunity , after 14 years to opportunity, after 14 years to get its future back . get its future back. and i want to thank each and every one of you here for campaigning. so hard for change, and not just in this campaign ehhen and not just in this campaign either. also, for these four and a half years changing our party. the labour movement is always everything's achieved past and future, down to the efforts of

its people. so thank you truly. you have changed our country. but a mandate like this comes with a great responsibility . our with a great responsibility. our task is nothing less than renewing the ideas that hold this country together. national renewal, whoever you are , renewal, whoever you are, wherever you started in life, if you work hard, if you play by the rules , this country should the rules, this country should give you a fair chance to get on. it should always respect your contribution and we have to restore that .

restore that. and alongside that, we have to return politics to public service. show that politics can be a force for good. make no mistake, that is the great test of politics in this era . the of politics in this era. the fight for trust is the battle that defines our age . it is why that defines our age. it is why we've campaigned so hard on demonstrating we are fit for pubuc demonstrating we are fit for public service. service is the precondition for hope. respect the bond that can unite a country together. the values of this changed labour party are the guiding guiding principle for a new government . country for a new government. country first, party second.

thatis first, party second. that is the responsibility of this mandate . you know, 14 years this mandate. you know, 14 years ago we were told that we're all in it together. i say to the british people today, imagine what we can do. if that were actually true . so by all means , actually true. so by all means, enjoy this moment. nobody can say you haven't waited patiently . say you haven't waited patiently. enjoy the feeling of waking up on a morning like this with the emotion that you do. see the country through the same eyes. hold on to it because it is what unity is made from , but use it unity is made from, but use it to show to the rest of the country as we must, that this party has changed, that we will serve them faithfully, govern

for every single person in this country . country. but also , don't forget how we but also, don't forget how we got here this morning. we can see that the british people have voted to turn the page on 14 years. but don't pretend that there was anything inevitable about that . there's nothing about that. there's nothing preordained in politics. election victories don't fall from the sky. they're hard won and hard fought for and this one could only be won by a changed labour party . we have the chance labour party. we have the chance to repair our public services because we changed the party. we

have the chance to make work pay because we changed the party. we have the chance to deliver for working people , young people, working people, young people, vulnerable people, the poorest in our society, because we changed the . changed the. party. country first. party second isn't a slogan . it's the guiding slogan. it's the guiding principle. everything we have done and must keep on doing, on the economy, on national security, on protecting our borders. the british people had to look us in the eye and see that we can serve their interests and that work doesn't stop now. it never stops . the stop now. it never stops. the changes we've made are permanent, irreversible, and we must keep going. we ran as a

changed labor party and we will govern as a changed labour party . govern as a changed labour party. i don't promise you it will be easy. changing a country is not like flicking a switch. it's hard work , patient work, hard work, patient work, determined work and we will have to get moving immediately. but even when the going gets tough and it will remember tonight and always. what this is all about now , i may have mentioned my now, i may have mentioned my parents a few times in this campaign, once or twice , but the campaign, once or twice, but the sense of security we had, the comfort they took from believing that britain would always be

better for their children. the hope not high minded, not idealistic, but a hope that working class families like mine could build their lives around. it is a hope that may not burn brightly in britain at the moment , but brightly in britain at the moment, but we have earned the mandate to relight the fire. thatis mandate to relight the fire. that is the purpose of this party and of this government. that is the purpose of this party and of this government . we party and of this government. we said we would end the chaos and we will. we said we would turn the page and we have today we start the next chapter, begin the work of change. the mission of national renewal, and start to rebuild our country. thank you.thank to rebuild our country. thank you. thank you . you. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, there you go. the man who will be prime minister very shortly, sir keir starmer, i'm there aren't let me just tell you that currently labour on 337

seats, they've passed the post. on what's that? 340 someone telling me. oh on what's that? 340 someone telling me. on 340 so there you go. telling me. on 340 so there you 90- my telling me. on 340 so there you go. my computer's a little bit out of date , so they've passed out of date, so they've passed the post they're going to be in. there's no doubting it at all. now, our panel still here with a few tweaks. it's worth saying, lord brody is. i'm going to have to get used to calling, graham brady as well . brady as well. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> no, you will have to get used to it, george eustice, former minister, former lib dem minister, former lib dem minister norman baker is here, as well as our senior political analyst nigel nelson. good to see you, nigel. i've got to start, nigel, with you on this one. since you're a labour man, i was really struck by the fact that we've heard change has been the message throughout this campaign. this is the first time i've heard him talk so much about the fact that the party has changed. i know he's mentioned it, but this was really driven home today. >> yeah. and what he was saying there, and it sounded very like what tony blair said back in 97

that, we campaigned as new laboun >> i'm going to govern as new laboun >> and he lifted that almost, almost word for word from blair's mouth where you say he ran as a change. >> labour, we've got a government has changed labour. i mean, in a sense, change has always been the absolute theme. it runs through what labour has been saying during the campaign, like a stick of rock. so it's no surprise he keeps going on about change. i would have thought that some of that stuff he's just done, he ought to have saved for downing street tomorrow morning, but, maybe or later on this morning. >> different plan for then, nigel. i mean, to be honest, more change, more change for his own script. lord brady, let's bnng own script. lord brady, let's bring norman into the conversation. good night for the liberal democrats . norman, where liberal democrats. norman, where do you go from here? do you reckon up? >> i think it's a short answer to that, looking at the figures, we've got 46 seats so far, which is up 39, which is a pretty good result . and we've made first result. and we've made first past the post work for us.

>> it's not a oh, you've changed your tune. we haven't now. we haven't changed our tune. >> we want pr, but we've had to use a system that's there and we've used it very effectively. >> so we're getting seats where we're getting 20,000, 25,000 votes, other seats, we're getting 1000 votes because that's what we've what we've done.i that's what we've what we've done. i must just say that my own previous seat of lewes has gone back to the lib dems with a 12,000 majority. so i'm deeply happy about that. >> it'sjust happy about that. >> it's just because it's just because you and we've also we've also, of course, as you know, because it's the south and we were the challengers to the conservatives in the south, we were responsible for removing a number of ministers, including alex chalk at cheltenham, gillian keegan of course, at chichester we haven't won chichester we haven't won chichester since 1923, by the way. >> so i mean these these records are falling both for us and for labour actually across the country. >> how would you describe tonight, graham? i mean, it's not just it's not an extinction level event is it. it doesn't look like for the conservatives, but it's not far off. >> should we just announce a couple more losses? actually, lucy frazer, the culture secretary, has lost to the lib dems in ely in east

cambridgeshire . ranil cambridgeshire. ranil jayawardena has lost as well to the lib dems. we've heard about andrew jenkins losing to labour. tobias ellwood is also gone in bournemouth. >> well, i mean look, a lot of very good colleagues losing their seats and that is painful to see. it makes it harder as well to build back. but i think in so far as we can say that something, you know , slightly something, you know, slightly positive, looking at some of the polls, it was extinction level and it could have taken us down to a level where it was impossible to come back. i think we've got something to work with, but it's going to be very difficult. but as i said earlier, i think the huge volatility now that we have in politics means it's not impossible to come back from a disastrous result, as labour has just done from their disastrous 2019 result as well, george . 2019 result as well, george. >> yeah, i think the dynamic that's at play here, you know, quite simply is that that conservative coalition has, has fallen apart tonight. so you've got in some seats, you've got people who would regard themselves perhaps as centre ground conservatives, they,

they've switched to the liberal democrats in a lot of cases. and then on the other flank , you've then on the other flank, you've got people who think the conservatives aren't right wing enough. we've gone to reform george. >> we just need to interrupt because chris hope, the political editor, is at the rally with keir starmer. i think he's going to try and stop the man walking tomorrow. there we are . oh, no, he's just hugging are. oh, no, he's just hugging some people there. chris, can you hear us? chris on good. >> hello caller. you're on. yes. >> hello. hi. hi. hi. yes, you. you're joining me at a bankside power station where we heard from, labour and sir keir starmer. they're saying how a weight has been lifted off this country. he said that it should be restored this great nation. and change begins now . change and change begins now. change begins. is the new, slogan . i begins. is the new, slogan. i think of this new government being formed today. think of this new government being formed today . lots of being formed today. lots of excited, labour activists posing on the stage where sir keir starmer spoke a few moments ago. to my left is lord kinnock, neil kinnock, the former labour

leader, who couldn't become prime minister. he couldn't beat margaret thatcher, of course, and then resigned. so he's looking very emotional. he gave a very emotional embrace, who, of course, was accompanied by his wife, lady starmer. and they give a very fulsome hug. quite an emotional hug, one you haven't really seen from that couple, i think, before in politics, suddenly, suddenly, publicly . and he made clear he publicly. and he made clear he wants to make work pay. he says this is sir keir starmer. he wants to deliver for young people, and show how his party, i think they can't quite believe the scale of this victory and how they're going to use this, the mandate given to them by the, by the british public. but they want to start to rebuild they want to start to rebuild the country. he said, thank you. and i wonder whether that would be one of the first things we hear from this government about how they're looking to get this country building again, or new homes and also our industry, but a real feeling of excitement here on the south bank of the thames. i'm looking to my left there, see if neil kinnock is available. but really it does

feel very much like that feeling in 1997, when tony blair had his event at the royal festival hall, also on the south bank of the thames. i think there's a real feeling then, that this country is turning a page after then. 18 years of tory rule now, 14 years of tory rule. but it does feel well. there's optimism here. but of course, let's see if they can deliver on that . if they can deliver on that. >> yeah. that's that's going to be the question, chris, isn't it. whether they can deliver on something where there's, you know, a smaller vote share and therefore no honeymoon period with all of this. yeah >> that's right. i was quite struck by martin baxter from an electoral calculus when he first started doing mrp polling for gb news about six weeks ago he was said this will this looks like it's going to be called the oh no election . and i think that no election. and i think that the scale of the turnout often in many seats just over 50% turnout, it looks like looks like the country is kind of shrugged and said, well, let's

give labour a chance. despite the scale of the victory, of course, a big landslide majority, but it's a very shallow majority, because not most people , many people didn't most people, many people didn't vote. of course, the majority did vote, but many people didn't vote. so it's almost the oh no election. let's have a new party. so it's really up to the up to the labour party to deliver on that promise. >> we're just hearing, chris, that esther mcvey has held her seat. gavin williamson, the former defence secretary, has also held his seat. although, as you know, chris carnage elsewhere on the conservative benches , jacob rees—mogg gone, benches, jacob rees—mogg gone, lucy fraser gone , tobias ellwood lucy fraser gone, tobias ellwood gone. what are you hearing from tories tonight? chris >> well i think they're looking around seeing who's left standing. a great wave has crashed on this beach i think in our electoral system and no one's quite clear who is remaining. i think we have seen those big names go. jacob rees—mogg as he said there, lucy frazer , alex chalk, grant shapps frazer, alex chalk, grant shapps and arrest. i mean about eight

cabinet ministers. in my last count. i think have gone, a real change here and how that plays out for the tory party. we'll wait and see to my left is neil kinnock was trying to grab him for you, camilla and stephen, if you can stay with me for as long as you can. but we. yeah, i think it's a real, a change here. we saw that like iain duncan smith holding on because the vote against him was split by a strong formerly labour candidate who now independent. so all sorts of dramas across the board, jeremy hunt hanging on, richard holden. of course, by 2020 votes in basildon and billericay. so i think quite a you know, a dramatic night here, i think for the for the tory party. >> yeah. and as you wait to get your hands on lord kinnock, chris and i know you're keeping your eyes peeled, how much influence has reform had on this election and the, the way this has gone? yeah. >> well, huge. you see, i think for many the reform vote in the nonh for many the reform vote in the north certainly took the, the votes won by boris johnson in

2019. they were second in so many of those seats. of course, in the end four mps elected for reform as things stand nigel farage, rupert low, richard richard tice and lee anderson. and that is the bridgehead which nigel farage told us he wanted to establish , didn't he, when he to establish, didn't he, when he gave that interview to gb news on wednesday. and they he wants to rebuild from here. i mean for four weeks and three days. i think it was that he became leader of reform uk and now look what he's done. he has got his he's at his eighth time of asking. he's got into parliament. it's how he uses that i think what's what the, the right is facing is what kind of right wing is established over the next five years. reform uk will try and pull the tory party to the right. woods and will be equally some moderate voices in that party. people like jeremy hunt and tom tugendhat and others trying to make it a centrist party. we heard at the very beginning of the evening from sir robert buckland, who lost his swindon seat. he was saying he wants his party to be returned to the middle ground. i'm not sure

that's going to be so easy and there's no question you've heard from sir keir starmer. he wants to try and own that middle ground and govern for all of britain, not just those who voted for the labour party in this election. >> chris, we've talked about vote share here on the panel throughout the morning and the fact that the vote share for keir starmer may well be lower than it was for jeremy corbyn in 2017. and 2019. on top at the moment, we're just seeing the graphic there and it's saying that the labour vote share currently stands at 36, conservative vote share at 22.4, and reform at 14.5. i think it says , actually as well, chris, says, actually as well, chris, there's another issue at play here and that's low turnout. i think the turnout is projected to be the lowest in 20 years, below 60. so a turnout beginning with a five, which is quite a contrast to 2019, when the turnout was 67. so we've got labourin turnout was 67. so we've got labour in with this huge majority on the back of a lower vote share on the back of a

lower turnout. >> that's right. it's a very thin it's a landslide. but but if you look at those those votes and where they won them, it's quite a thin , majority many quite a thin, majority many seats. it looks like there was some tactical voting. it looks like the labour did hoover up in some seats where they had to. but really not not not the scale certainly of 97 or 2019 and 2019 i think was driven by a most a frustration to deliver on that result in 2016. the eu referendum. and that's what that's what drove that result. but i think yeah, i think it that's a challenge. i think for the labour party to work out how they can deliver for the whole country and use that power responsibly. it's a better result, of course, than many of the mrp polls were forecasting. i think, for the tory party, 100, 100 and 150 or so seats. they're looking looking at now in the revised , exit poll was in the revised, exit poll was published about two hours ago by the bbc. so it looks like it will be a better result for them

than expected. but yeah, no question. i mean, sir keir starmer is a win. i don't think he's earned it in a sense of setting out a new, exciting vision. i mean, change is almost boredom. no change. none of the chaos of the final years of the tory government is what he's offering. and we'll see how that plays out. and in fact, the fiscal, envelope he's working in is very, very tight. he's got little money to spend, and if he can't get the economy growing, he'll have real problems in doing what he wants to do in government. so i think the challenge is there and it could go quite wobbly quickly unless it can get that growth happening. >> i mean, at least he acknowledges it could be very difficult. look, chris, we're going to leave you to go and wrestle lord kinnock in front of your camera and we'll come back to you as soon as you've got him. in the meantime, we're just heanng him. in the meantime, we're just hearing tom tugendhat as, held tonbridge and another interesting one, craig williams, the former prime minister's former pps, who was embroiled in that betting scandal, has lost in montgomeryshire.

>> craig williams has lost in montgomeryshire. >> no real surprise there. >> no real surprise there. >> no, i think well, i think it's a seat that was probably at risk anyway. >> and obviously the incredible controversy there was around betting is probably, you know, enough to have done for him, look, we are obviously there are some good people that are that are coming through. it's good that tom has succeeded, but overall, this is a it's an incredibly bad night for the conservatives. a very good night for reform. and it's just a, it's a big mandate for keir starmer. you know whatever the low turnout the fact of the matter is it's a landslide for the labour party. >> we haven't touched on it much but it's worth just pointing out. well, we've got you here, nigel, to take us off an overview. snp down 35 at the minute. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and if they're coming back with, with what, ten seats or something like that, >> that's scottish independence really off the agenda. i mean, the one thing that they were hoping for was to have a reasonable showing in westminster and arguing the for case independence. well, that's

just gone out the window with the small number of seats they're about to get. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> graham, i mean, you're the conservative and unionist party. bad night for the conservatives. good night for the union. >> that's great. we're finding things to cheer me up. >> i'm trying my best. lord brady , you should be cheered up brady, you should be cheered up because you've been ennobled and therefore the future is bright for you. >> i think the burden falling on conservative peers might be a little bit greater. well, in the context of the loss of colleagues from the house of commons, well, also, i mean, the labour party are going to do something to the house of lords. >> so who knows what might happen, who knows in the future, >> in terms of the lib dems, i mean, we've talked we've talked for weeks now about ed davey and his slightly strange stance , his slightly strange stance, which which they do seem to have worked , i mean, this is worked, i mean, this is remarkable that it looks like the best results for the lib dems since, what, 2005? >> yes, it may be even better. we don't know. i think it's up to 48 or 49 now and still lots of seats to declare and some seats on the outer edges of our solar system, which have come to the lib dems like torbay, which

was way down the list of seats that we thought we might get . so that we thought we might get. so it is a very good night. kaja kallas back on the labour point andifs kallas back on the labour point and it's quite important that that issue, you know, labour mps must not go away with the idea. they've been given a huge mandate by the public. they haven't because the share of the vote, as you discussed, is not terribly different to how it was before. what's happened simply, is it reform have stood candidates this time and didn't in 2019 and not standing in 2019. over overestimated boris johnson's popularity, actually, and this time overestimates keir starmer's popularity. that's the difference between them standing and not standing . and, you know, and not standing. and, you know, coming back to electoral system, they've got 36% of the vote on a lower turnout. that is not right to have a, you know, three figure majority in the house of commons. that's simply not right. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> well, i mean, the whole thing is that that is the way the system works or doesn't work. >> well, i mean, you don't, as you pointed out just a bit earlier on, norman, your party has done rather well out of first past the post, made it work in this in this. >> well, you said made it work,

but you've done very well out of it in this particular election. >> rather ironically, the number of seats we get is probably roughly proportionate. the number of votes we get. well, there you go, there you go. >> so but i mean, because of the way the system works, i don't think you can really criticise the labour party and say , well, the labour party and say, well, it's not representative or whatever. >> i mean, okay, we've got a system which is not totally democratic, where 200,000 votes can actually change an election. but in this particular case, i don't think you can turn around and say, keir starmer hasn't actually got a mandate to do what he's doing. >> he most certainly has. >> he most certainly has. >> well, i'm not sure he has, but i think the point i was making was labour mps have to be careful not to run away with this and think it's something other than it was. it is not a huge increased number of votes. it'5 huge increased number of votes. it's a it's a system which delivered a big majority. that's not the same thing. but it does mean that they can get things done. >> i mean, that's the whole point of that is so sorry to butt in. >> it's just when it gets going. but we are going to be back to you. don't you worry, i just want to do some number crunching with tom. >> well, here we are. we can see

the number of labour seats has passed . that 326 majority passed. that 326 majority winning line, as we heard from sir keir starmer, the labour party has won this election officially passing that crucial majority line in the house of commons. and we can start to see what that looks like on a map of the united kingdom here. this map of the united kingdom that is showing a spread of colour. but let's have a look at what this means for the share of the vote. this is perhaps an extraordinary moment here. 34.8% of the vote for the labour party. that's the projection. it'5 party. that's the projection. it's fallen from the start of this election as more seats have come in. we've been updating this projection from the exit poll and it has shown us 34.8% of the vote. i can't remember a time when a party has won a majority in the house of commons on a lower share of the vote. tony blair came close in 2005, but that was 35% of the vote,

34.8. and it is remarkable. it's a 10% lead for the labour party here. that's about half what was being predicted by the opinion polls. martin baxter of electoral calculus is with me, martin. these are astonishing numbers. yes. >> and when you translate it into actual votes cast, it's even more striking. labour on our figures will get more. fewer than 10 million votes. and by contrast , jeremy corbyn in 2017, contrast, jeremy corbyn in 2017, when he lost the election, got over 12 million votes. so fewer people are supporting labour. but equally far fewer people are supporting the conservatives. so labour wins so. but as you say, it's a it's a big win. but on relatively shallow foundations. >> really interesting stuff. well let's hope that christopher hope, our political editor , asks hope, our political editor, asks that question of ellie reeves, whom he's with. >> i'm joined now by ellie reeves, who ran the labour campaign. you are delighted by this result. >> i'm really delighted by this

result. we've shown that keir starmer has changed the labour party. he's put it back in the service of working people and voters have put their trust in us. we've won seats up and down the country. there was never any complacency in this campaign. we spoke to voters across the country, but that message for change has been clear tonight. >> and your slogan now if the government is change begins and how will it begin and how soon? >> well, you know, we set out our first steps, the things that we think that we can do straight away. so, for example, setting up gb energy, starting to recruit those 6500 new teachers , recruit those 6500 new teachers, putting more police and pcsos on our streets. and, you know, the hard work starts, starts now, starts straight away. we need to rebuild the country. after 14 years of chaos under the conservatives and keir starmer is going to do that. and we'll see. >> we'll see the big jobs appointed today will be the confirming the home secretary and the rest. >> well that's a matter for , for >> well that's a matter for, for

keir and i'm sure he'll want to get on and do that as quickly as possible so we can start that renewal . renewal. >> and you've been with him as he relieved. i mean, he looked quite emotional there with lady starmer at the end. >> i think that you know, it's a really important moment for us in the in the party, it's only the fourth time in our history that we have formed a government from opposition, and we've been able to do that because keir has changed. the labour party has put it back in the service of working people. we are ready to govern. we don't underestimate the challenges ahead of us, but, you know, we're ready to serve. >> are you worried that you've lost seats to reform uk votes? forgive me. votes to reform uk in the north. is that a worry for you? you know we haven't been complacent about any votes. >> we've been speaking to people up and down the country and rebuilding trust with the electorate, many of whom turned away from us in 2019. but because we're a changed labour party, you can see in the seats that we've won, the length of breadth of the country, that people are putting their trust in us. again

>> yeah. but in the north particularly, you have lost seats and lost votes to other parties, notably reform uk. does that mean that you can't. you got to be careful how you govern this country to show you can unite it. >> no, i mean you know, we've put forward our plans for mission driven government, our first steps and the bold ideas that we've got for the for renewal so we won't be distracted. we know what the challenges are ahead. they are big challenges , but we are back big challenges, but we are back in the service of working people. >> are you surprised by the scale of the victory? look i'm not surprised by it because i know when i've spoken to voters around the country, they've wanted change. >> but i am absolutely delighted by the result and what keir starmer has done to get us to this point. >> it's a low turnout, though. does that worry you? i mean, oven does that worry you? i mean, over, just over 50% in some, some places. >> look, we can we can, we'll have to look at all of that and make sure that people put their trust back into into politics. i think people will feel let down,

actually, you know, we've had a sleaze scandal rule breaking from the conservatives. so trust in politicians is low. but we're ready to serve. and i hope that we can rebuild that trust amongst the people. well thank you for joining amongst the people. well thank you forjoining us on gb news today. >> that's ellie reeves there, looking forward to government . looking forward to government. >> chris, thanks very much indeed. >> chris, thanks very much indeed . right. should we should indeed. right. should we should we go north of the border around the uk? >> i think i think we should round up the results, >> let's check in. first of all, with our scotland reporter, tony maguire, who's in glasgow morning to you, tony. so give us a picture there . a picture there. >> good morning. well i'll give you one guess what colour is filling my spreadsheet this morning, certainly to probably very little surprise, a sea of red has overtaken the central belt of scotland. and all six glasgow seats here. we started with six incumbent snp

candidates and we go home with sending six new labour mps to westminster, a picture that we've seen replicated right across the country insofar as edinburgh, even up in the western isles, and indeed this was not a good night for the snp, i think so far i count that we're going about five seats, so even from this point in the count across the country, we still haven't broken into that double digits. meanwhile, labour is riding high. anas sarwar, the scottish labour party leader. he's doing the rounds for interviews , you know, and he is interviews, you know, and he is very much riding the crest of the wave. so many of the mp candidates who he stood by out on the campaign trail over the last year or so, all the time saying that he was election ready. but of course , this is ready. but of course, this is only part half, if you like, of anas sarwar's plan. the other half is going to come in 2026, when the scottish elections will

take place, and he will look to formally challenge the snp to become the next first minister of scotland. >> okay, tony. >> okay, tony. >> thank you. last man standing there in glasgow. tony. >> i love that. >> i love that. >> thanks very much indeed. >> thanks very much indeed. >> shall we go to the west midlands where jack castle is in birmingham? jack >> yeah. good morning to you both. i mean , we've had five of both. i mean, we've had five of the nine constituencies, so far declared here in birmingham and really we are seeing the impact now of that pro gaza that pro—palestine vote. those george galloway backed independence, the workers party of great britain candidates as well and labour really are scraping through in some of these seats. liam byrne, who stood in the new seat of birmingham, hodge hill and solihull north, scraped by with only a 1500 majority to the james st giles, who was from that workers party. of course we

spoke about it earlier, didn't we, before? of course we went to that, lee anderson result in ashfield. they were telling me that it was going to be close, and it was with 1500 votes in it. that's a 28.7% loss in the vote share for liam byrne. since 2019. the conservatives came fourth place in that seat as well, behind reform uk. also as well. we are hearing in jess phillips seat of birmingham yardley that that is even closer. could be anywhere between 700 to 1000 votes in it. in terms of a majority for jess phillips. now these are kind of seats where labour have held huge majorities, some of the safest seats in the country. i mean, we've still got birmingham ladywood to declare here. that's shabana mahmood seat. of course, the shadow justice secretary could well be a secretary of state if she's able to hold her seat here. now, we don't think that the pro—palestine, galloway backed independent akhmed yakoob has done enough to be able to

overturn that 28,000 majority. but what these labour candidates are finding in birmingham this morning is that their vote is getting cut massively and their vote share has really been cut massively. i put it to liam byrne when i spoke to him after he won, you know, how do you really rebuild that trust? and obviously labour have lost with these communities. and he said very clearly that it's about now, as they are the governing party, to be able to deliver to these people, to be able to win their trust back. we have had a labour gain. they are still looking like they are on course to win the nine seats here in and around birmingham, birmingham, northfield, which went conservative in 2019, gary sambrook took that seat, of course, in that brexit general election. he had a narrow majority of only about 1600. he has lost that seat today to laboun has lost that seat today to labour. and interestingly in that seat, reform took 7895 votes. you add up that to gary sambrook's total, and it would

have been enough to defeat the labour candidate. the labour candidate in that seat receiving the lowest vote share that a labour candidate has received in that seat, but still being enough because of the split between conservative and reform in that seat as well in the wider west midlands, of course, we have seen quite a big name michael fabricant lose his seat in lichfield. that again was because of the impact of reform reform splitting his vote and meaning that the labour candidate there narrowly got in. and so that's another conservative mp and the wider west midlands, those tory strongholds outside of birmingham, which have been lost as well. we are still getting lots of labour gains in around the west midlands as well as we head into this early morning. >> okay, jack , thank you. let's >> okay, jack, thank you. let's head to jeff moody. should we? he was at the northeast somerset count and of course jacob rees mogg. jeff, i mean, the a bit of a shocker because he's such a character and such a parliamentarian. and yet he's

gone. >> i know it's barely conceivable a parliament without jacob rees—mogg. he's one of the most colourful characters, as we know, has been ever since he first came onto the campaign trail back in 2010, when he's rumoured to have been campaigning alongside his nanny. and even in the last week, apparently he's been seen around the constituency blaring out rule britannia from his car as he as he passes the minions on the way . but there is he as he passes the minions on the way. but there is a real sense of loss among a lot of people here, because he has been a very colourful figure. he has certainly been a very vocal mp and he only lost by about 5000 votes. dan norris was the winner from labour, who was on 20,739, and jacob rees—mogg on 15,420. so still a pretty good result. possibly the reason that he's lost is because of the boundary changes, which have become very ,

changes, which have become very, very prominent in these parts until recently, his constituency in north east somerset was very, very rural, very, very wealthy, a lot of farming land, very, very conservative heartland. but in the recent changes to boundaries, they've added hanham. now that constituency is in the south of bristol and it's part of kingswood. and if you remember, kingswood is where we had the by—election fairly recently when it went over to laboun recently when it went over to labour, a very strong supporting labour, a very strong supporting labour area. so it's thought that that boundary change has really put things over the edge for jacob rees—mogg , another forjacob rees—mogg, another thing to note is how convivial. >> sorry to jeff, but we've got chris hope, who we think is alongside former labour leader neil kinnock, chris kim, i'm with lord kinnock, neil kinnock now lord kinnock. >> how are you feeling? it's an emotional day for you. ecstatic, >> that's one way to describe

it. it simply wouldn't be a normal human being who didn't feel as i do with this , feel as i do with this, tumultuous victory. and now i'm very much aware that, from later today, the real challenge has to be met. and what you've heard from keir starmer is that he understands that and will get on with it . with it. >> is it a day you thought might never come in those years when jeremy corbyn was your party's leader? >> yeah, i think it was 2018. might have been, might have been 2017. when i was asked in an interview whether i thought i'd see another labour government, i said unless there was huge change, i wouldn't live to see another labour government . well, another labour government. well, here i am, hale and hearty , 82 here i am, hale and hearty, 82 years of age. we've got a labour government because the big change did take place, and i give thanks for that. >> what advice would you give

sir keir starmer, the new prime minister? >> oh, i wouldn't , it isn't. i >> oh, i wouldn't, it isn't. i don't go around advising prime ministers. i might have a chat with my friend and, i basically all i ever say to him is, look, do what you're doing because you've got it right. and it's not, it's not flattering. it's not, it's not flattering. it's not deferential, it's two blokes having a chat who understand the challenges and what's got to be done. and i know that a long time ago, he set a course. he assembled a team , he developed assembled a team, he developed policies. he deliberately under promised very, very deliberately, despite people calling on him to be bold and assertive and all the rest of it. he had the self—discipline and the honesty. not to over promise. and now it means that he's got a manageable group and a group of totally dedicated people who, simply put the well—being of our country above

everything else. and they'll get on with it. >> and back in 2018, did you think your party would be back in power so quickly in 2024, in 2018? >> no. within six months of kia taking over, i thought it was a possibility . i taking over, i thought it was a possibility. i did not taking over, i thought it was a possibility . i did not envisage possibility. i did not envisage that we would gain 208 seats, i don't think i don't think anybody ever did. but that's what he's achieved. that's what the party has achieved . and the party has achieved. and that's the reason for my celebration , though, the celebration, though, the celebratory mood , will pass. not celebratory mood, will pass. not simply because i can't sustain it because i'm too damned old, but because there are realities of crises in all the public services and an underperforming economy. and that's got to be deau economy. and that's got to be dealt with head on. it will be not rapidly, because it can't be. but continually and

cumulatively and positively. and that's when you will see the change. it's not going to be this week or next week. it might not even be for several months, but people will start to see us edging forward as a country. >> so be patient . >> so be patient. >> so be patient. >> yes, but be committed. be interested. pull your weight. don't let it be done by others. this is something that the british people have got to do all together, and those who don't want to commit themselves like that, well , because we are like that, well, because we are kind, we might carry them . kind, we might carry them. >> lord kinnock, neil kinnock there with some advice. the former labour leader, of course, former labour leader, of course, for sir keir starmer, now prime minister thank you very much indeed, chris, >> and to lord kinnock for that reaction, let's just have a little catch up . so, the little catch up. so, the conservatives have been wiped out in wales. there are now no conservative mps in wales , conservative mps in wales, instead there are 27 labour for plaid cymru and one lib dem. the chief whip, simon hart, has lost

his seat. the greens have won waveney valley from the tories, which is a little update. wow, yeah. david dc davies has gone in monmouthshire and he was a welsh secretary. morris, you wanted to talk about some of these strange results like we talked about leicester and funny goings on with tories winning leicester east, claudia webb's old seat , but leicester east, claudia webb's old seat, but equally leicester east, claudia webb's old seat , but equally jonathan old seat, but equally jonathan ashworth losing in leicester. and then we've just heard that, birmingham yardley, which should be a shoo in for labour with jess phillips, is on a bit of a knife edge. >> yeah. and i mean jess phillips. shabana mahmood. i mean, these are two , the three mean, these are two, the three safest labour seats. so, you know, we've got to look at this. tonight is weird. i know it's the morning. i'm still going to call it a night. >> it's 545. >> it's 545. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but some of us stay up late anyway, so it feels like. it feels like that, there's some there's subterranean shifts going on. meaning jeremy corbyn winning an islington is

something. lee ashworth, there's reform and then there's this. the muslim vote can't is not secured for labour in the way that it was. it was a very, very secure voting base for labour. >> and yet they've they've beaten off the george galloway challenge , challenge, >> yeah. so it seems that i mean, if you can generalise for a moment, it looks like it's really significant in birmingham. >> another breaking one. sorry. regionally. so to speak, is that douglas ross, the scottish conservative leader, has lost his seat north of the border . george. >> yeah. look, it's, well, it's further bad news for us. i think there is something of a paradox out of this, though, which is potentially what we might have managed to do as a country is leave the european union and become an independent country. that created all sorts of stresses and strains on the uk union, particularly with scotland. and there were people who said that because we'd left the eu, it was a foregone conclusion that scotland would eventually break away. we managed to see that off and, paradoxically, the return of

labourin paradoxically, the return of labour in those heartlands. there's one silver lining for those who believe in the union. it really does cement the uk union back together. >> i think it's an irony rather than a paradox. so the conservatives, the party that led brexit, has lost hugely. the first post brexit election. so that's one. the second is labour has now emerged as absolutely the party of the union. we've got very good representation in scotland and in wales and in england, north, south, east and west , so it's england, north, south, east and west, so it's a it's a really extraordinary night. this is an extraordinary night. this is an extraordinary result . my party extraordinary result. my party emerges as the only genuine national party of the union. you have no representation in wales. do you have any representation in scotland , in scotland, >> not as yet. i don't think so. on welsh labour. that's interesting, isn't it? because i think by all accounts, morris, welsh labour haven't done brilliantly, educational standards are down. waiting lists for the nhs are up. this was an attack point made

repeatedly by rishi sunak. you know, look at what labour have donein know, look at what labour have done in wales and then apply it to the rest of the country and be afraid. but actually the welsh seem to have re—embraced labour there. >> yeah, i mean it's only strange because you follow a conservative attack lines as some kind of. >> no, i'm just repeating a conservative attack. >> this is another indication of how out of tune the conservatives are. >> it's not that . it's just it's >> it's not that. it's just it's further evidence that the reform vote has broken away from the conservatives, and that's allowed labour through, even though they got less votes than jeremy corbyn got. yeah, but you can't. >> it's an interesting one because on a lot of seats, obviously you had tory and reform votes together and yes, perhaps you would have held it, but it certainly doesn't apply to all. and you know, if you're going to win people back, you can't lay it all at the feet of reform. no, absolutely . reform. no, absolutely. >> and as i said earlier, what's really happened is that conservative coalitions come apart. so a chunk of them have gone to liberal democrats, and then a chunk at the other flank of the party have gone to reform. and that's a big challenge for us, because to get back in government, we're going

to have to have somebody who can pull back together. those various strands of conservative thought . because under various strands of conservative thought. because under our system, you can only form government if you can bring that coalition of conservative thinking people together again. >> and the problem is, you don't appear to have anyone capable of doing that at the minute. you look at you look at the people being touted as a as a rishi sunak replacement. well, they all tend to be much more to the right, much closer to reform than than the lib dems. >> well, potentially. >> well, potentially. >> but look, the party is going to have a period of looking at this now, you know, a lot of potential candidates being wiped out, you know, in these results tonight , and out, you know, in these results tonight, and we'll just have to see the party's got plenty of time to have a debate because we're in opposition for you know, at least one parliament. and we're going to have to basically try and get it right and regroup and have a period of reflection. >> maurice, this kind of centralisation that's taken place under keir starmer, you know, moving the party into a more moderate position from the days of jeremy corbyn. >> he has taken quite a leap, hasn't he? if you look at his 2020 leadership video , keir 2020 leadership video, keir starmer sort of looks a little

bit like a ken loach trailer and now he's very much positioning himself in that blairite position . i mean, actually, on position. i mean, actually, on one hand, he had all of these really quite hard left views when he was younger and growing up. but maybe he is quite bland. maybe he won't do anything that radical because he isn't that kind of character. >> well, you know, we find out when the game really, really starts. yeah, i disagree, i don't think keir starmer is a blairite at all. i think that the party acknowledges that all the party acknowledges that all the assumptions that blair made were fundamentally wrong, as all the assumptions that thatcher made and cameron made, the globalisation was inevitable. well, globalisation has broken down. the whole wealth of the country was invested in china, and they've now increased their industrial capacity or an enormous threat to our liberty. and even the possibility of having an industrial strategy. so globalisation has broken down, the assumption always that the eu is a good idea, that this is a really significant break,

so i think his storm is actually much more conservative in a certain way. and i think the dilemma is, is that labour has always been a conservative party. i think that will actually come more to the fore than you think. yeah. okay. >> we've we've got to leave it there just for the time being because of course, one of the other huge stories of the night has been nigel farage, frankly, and reform pulling in what a big share of the vote, how many seats it's going to translate into. we're not sure. but of course nigel farage won his seat . course nigel farage won his seat. clacton at mark white was there to witness a little bit of history in the making. mark well, indeed . well, indeed. >> welcome to clacton seafront. this is now nigel farage's manner, he really won very convincingly today and he overturned a majority of almost 25,000. from, giles watling, who of course had that stonking

majority in the 2019 election. but nigel farage came away after a relatively short campaign. of course, joining it late, with 8500, almost as a majority. and he will be joined in westminster by at least three other reform mps. richard tice, the former leader of reform , being elected leader of reform, being elected up there in boston and skegness. lee anderson, the former deputy chairman of the tory party who crossed over to reform, was returned in ashfield pretty comfortably , and of course we comfortably, and of course we had rupert lowe also, returned in great yarmouth. so a good day or night so far for reform. i have to say that the earlier estimates from the exit polls have been revised downwards now by pretty much all of the broadcasters to no more than about 4 or 5. now, i spoke to

reform, a week ago, and they said that if they got any more than three mps returned, they'd be very happy. so. well, they've got four. not the 13 that they were hoping for. perhaps at the beginning of the night. but that will again just fuel, the drive that nigel farage and his party have for electoral reform. because if you look at it, they are standing currently on about 15% as a share of the vote. the liberal democrats are on about 11% as a share of the vote. they're going to , by all they're going to, by all accounts, return about 50 or so mps, whereas reform will be 45 at the most. so you can see, why nigel farage believes that the first past the post voting system is just stacked against parties like reform. that will be a central plank of what

reform will be arguing for when they take up their seats in the house of commons. >> okay, mark, thanks very much indeed, hopefully we'll be heanng indeed, hopefully we'll be hearing from nigel before too long as well for a nice in—depth interview, because, i mean, it's he's done it at last. >> he's done it at last. i mean, he's tried and failed i think seven times, but now eight. i think this is this isn't downing street now it's there you go. a rainy friday morning. >> it's not as raining as it was. larry the cat has come out. >> if we can lose that strap and we can see the cat waiting for keir starmer, his new owner, to. there he is. look, he's absolutely delighted. literally. i think it's appropriate to say right now that the labour leader has got the cat's whiskers because he's delighted with himself, isn't he? stephen? >> let's be honest. >> let's be honest. >> yeah, he's the cat's whiskers and he's got the cream . and he's got the cream. >> he's got the he's the cat that got the cream, maurice. thatis that got the cream, maurice. that is why you are here on this panel >> it's got a lot of it's got a lot of. it's got a lot of cream.

some would argue perhaps a bit too much plotted, maybe plotted. >> where is. oh, there he is. there he is. >> a little good lad. whereas, of course, george eustice, rishi sunak's left with nothing. yeah. very well. i mean , he'll be out very well. i mean, he'll be out of his job won't he. so. >> oh yeah. i mean the really big thing in these sorts of situations is to persuade a defeated leader that they should carry on until a new leader is selected. and i remember having this discussion with michael howard when we persuaded him to carry on until september. and it was it was not easy because if you're a defeated leader, you actually don't want to hang around in that role. you do want to move on. so it's a it's a big decision that rishi's got. as to how quickly. now the conservatives moved to a leadership campaign, there will be some who would say, let's not rush it, let's leave it till the conference and do what we did in 2005. you know, michael howard managed to pull off where david cameron came through and there will be others conference. >> george, that's a long time. >> george, that's a long time. >> it is. but it could be wrong. >> it is. but it could be wrong. >> it is. but it could be wrong. >> it could be that long. when you think about the length of time they'll be out of office,

because no party has it that way. >> so the party's got time to sort of reflect and think about it. but you need, you know, a defeated leader and prime minister to feel, up for doing that. and they may not. >> george, would you like to tell me now, i've asked you this on numerous occasions who you now fancy. we know who's left. we know who isn't left. we know we can't have penny mordaunt as an option. for instance, you can't have lucy fraser. you can't have lucy fraser. you can't have lucy fraser. you can't have tobias ellwood. if that was ever in contention. so you've got kemi badenoch or tom tugendhat or suella braverman to choose from. >> yes , i mean, i had in >> yes, i mean, i had in previously supported, you know, grant shapps and you know , he grant shapps and you know, he didn't make it through. >> i can't do that anymore, i'm afraid. >> no, no, he's and penny mordaunt, there's a lot of very good people gavin williamson has held on esther mcvey. we're going to have to see who comes forward. i mean i think i suspect it might end up being between kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat. both of you okay. both of whom have strengths. they come from slightly

different traditions within the party. i think either of those two would probably be the most credible. who would labour fear most? >> can we better knock or someone else? or actually, are they fearing nigel farage most much more? >> much, much more than any conservative, because the conservatives are no longer have an identity. they no longer have an identity. they no longer have a sense of who they are. i mean, it's a party that began, you know, as a criticism of liberalism and the market have become completely liberal, totally enamoured of globalisation, capitalism. thatcher destroyed the conservative party. it's only now beginning to work through just how damaging all of that was. >> oh heck, that's an existential argument. that's too much for my brain at this time of the day . of the day. >> that's the this is the thing. this is to simplify it, though, is labour more worried about farage simply because he cuts through and people really listen to it? no labour is more concerned about farage that that's just one aspect. they're more concerned. i think nigel

farage is probably the most important politician of the last 20 years. that's what i would say, brexit was very significant. he the capacity to tap into working class insurgency, dissatisfaction with the existing system. this is where labour's this is just labour has got to move into that space. yeah. keir starmer in his acceptance speech was very interesting. he talked about borders. he talked about sovereignty . okay. if you listen sovereignty. okay. if you listen to that you'll understand that that labour needs to address the disaffection. we've got an election tonight which is almost 20% down on 2017. but maurice , 20% down on 2017. but maurice, where does he go from here when it comes to appointing cabinet? >> because we hear, for instance, that david lammy might not be the foreign secretary. this is a man who wanted to scrap trident some years ago, who's been very critical about donald trump, who looks in light of the disastrous debate between him and biden, that he may be president again in the us. so

does he have to actually appoint a cabinet of more moderate people than he's had in the shadow cabinet? >> okay, this is the whole thing, but we don't want is this moderation that won't deal with the farage insurgency, that they won't deal with reform? what we needis won't deal with reform? what we need is to explore and push the space that brexit has opened up for an independent sovereign. we're going to leave this committed just so you get it straight to build up the army, to have an autonomous , to have an autonomous, post—brexit foreign policy. we've opted to deepen and intensify our relationship with ukraine. the consequences of that are very profound. that means that we're going to have to build up our army. we're going to have to produce weapons, which means we're going to have to have an industrial strategy. now, this whole stuff about talking about people, but david lammy gets all that. all i'm saying is i will make a pubuc i'm saying is i will make a public prediction that lammy will be absolutely fine . and will be absolutely fine. and this whole thing about, you know, going through twitter and finding out what they all say

now they're entering government and they've got a whole load of and they've got a whole load of and they've got to act. and so i think you can't say more moderate. it's got to be actually bolder and more adventurous, >> i think actually going back to your original question, i think, they haven't got really ought to fear anyone because they've got such a commanding majority. and actually, keir starmer has got a huge amount of freedom now to reshuffle the team as he sees fit. and this is, i'm afraid, what it's like being prime minister, that you come in and you're on a high, but from then on you, you have to take difficult decisions and you make enemies along the way. okay. >> thank

going to be a new prime minister in there today and we've got full coverage continuing for you right through till 10:00 with eamonn holmes and isabel webster, of course. but in the meantime let's cross to our political editor, christopher hope, who's going to chris, what a night, what a night. but perhaps not quite to the expectations that some of the polls were saying. but still a huge majority for labour. >> a huge majority for labour. we're looking at maybe 170 seats. we'll get the final. final figures will be tallied shortly. a big result for the reform uk party. four mps, shortly. a big result for the reform uk party. four mp5, of course, that bridgehead nigel farage talked about about creating the tories. down, down to a fraction or half of where they were before 150 or so mps. extraordinary blow to them, an apology from the prime minister for calling an election six months before he had to call one. yeah. a real an amazing an

extraordinary night, i think one which i think i