important ones have gone in. well, we haven't seen yvette cooper yet , so wait and see. we cooper yet, so wait and see. we might not. >> peter karl of course. he won a thumping majority down in hove in east sussex. chopper. a good result for him last night. yeah >> exactly. and yes. and he was has been a formerly a shadow home. shadow northern ireland secretary. he's waiting a bit hanging back a bit to make his make his entrance. but there's quite a number of shadow cabinet ministers in there now. and i wonder what they. if they're having a debate. i wonder what pat mcfadden's getting because he can't be deputy leader. he might get a job in a cabinet office. or could he be.7 maybe might get a job in a cabinet office. or could he be? maybe he could be the, the new home secretary . we certainly haven't secretary. we certainly haven't yet seen if that could be going in. and i find that bit interesting at this stage. no more than that. we're dealing with a christopherjust run us through again who we've seen just run us through the list of who we've seen. >> please. >> please. >> okay. shabana mahmood, david lammy , angela rayner, rachel

lammy, angela rayner, rachel reeves, i asked peter kyle a question. peter carr, what job do you want in the government? mr kyle? what job do you want in the government? peter. kyle, what job do you want in the government? are you excited to be in the government ? he gave government? are you excited to be in the government? he gave me half a wave. i got something for gb news. they're half away from peter kyle. not much more than that , but. peter kyle. not much more than that, but. yeah. so you. i was listening to emily. you want to listening to emily. you want to list off who's gone in so far with david lammy, rachel reeves, angela rayner, peter kyle, of course , pat mcfadden , john course, pat mcfadden, john healey, six six senior players in the shadow frontbench have gone in. we haven't yet seen yvette cooper. now, why is that? we don't know . all will soon we don't know. all will soon transpire that looks like bridget phillipson coming down the street now. emily and ben, if you stay with me and darren jonesi if you stay with me and darren jones i think is that i think that's darren jones. >> phillipson did you say you said. >> i think we're seeing bridget. yeah, i think it's bridget phillipson now. she's a shadow

education secretary, so not darren jones but bridget phillipson certainly coming down the road now she's obviously leading this controversial campaign to add vat to private school fees. let's try and see what job she might be getting . what job she might be getting. that's bridget phillipson there. and let's yesterday in the general election . what job do general election. what job do you want in government? ms phillipson excited . would you go phillipson excited. would you go easy on private schools if your education secretary was philip ? education secretary was philip? there you have it. bridget phillipson going in with a broad grin for gb news. so they do like us pink and fast chop. no one else coming. ben and emily. >> yeah, they're coming in thick and fast, david lammy of course . and fast, david lammy of course. probably foreign secretary. despite his past comments about donald trump calling him a racist and a nazi sympathiser, as you mentioned though, chris as you mentioned though, chris as well, interestingly , yvette

as well, interestingly, yvette coopen as well, interestingly, yvette cooper, no sign of her. just yet. who may be the home secretary? alastair stewart, in the absence of yvette cooper, >> the honest answer to that is, i don't know, not the foggiest, because, although i have, some notes here, i'm trying to find out who the number two. i know. i'm, i why would yvette not get it? >> well, yeah, exactly . it may >> well, yeah, exactly. it may be that she's just. >> i mean, she's she's late to be brutally honest in a very inexperienced gang, you've got yvette has got safe hands, you've got emily thornberry, and she's been around for a fair a while. so i really would be very, very surprised if it didn't get that job, maybe. >> maybe that's why peter kyle is there. well, he is a very experienced mp . he won experienced mp. he won a thumping majority in hove in east sussex last night, kyle. >> yes. >> yes. >> used to, used to do northern ireland before hilary benn took oven ireland before hilary benn took over. yeah, yeah. >> and he's, he has been shadow

secretary of state for science, innovation and technology for a little while. he's a he's a decent media performer, a grasp on the, on the policy perhaps, but that would be a big jump. that would be a big jump. very interesting choice. but yes, the frequency, the frequency of these politicians going into number 10, there's been an acceleration, hasn't there? >> we also saw wes streeting, the shadow health secretary, who really has got to be said , got really has got to be said, got by by the skin of his teeth last night , i by by the skin of his teeth last night, i think it was 5 or 600 votes in the midlands. so, if he's getting a cabinet job, congratulations to him. but he, he's probably thanking his lucky stars. he's even, a returning mp this morning. >> yes. >> yes. >> it was very close indeed. alastair wasn't it. for wes streeting. he had a lot of pressure in his seat. do individual majorities play any part in the decision of who should be in the cabinet, or is that an irrelevance? >> in my experience, it's not an irrelevance, but it's one of the least important things. unless

you think he or she is going to be precarious because of the small, majority. but then that only matters if it's a by—election or something like that. now, i think what we were saying in the previous discussion with the other group matters much more is experience. and that's a real problem for keir starmer, because there just isn't a lot about it. blair had exactly the same problem when he formed a government all those years ago, very few had even been parliamentary under—secretaries of state because labour hadn't been in government for decades. and decades. i think also the point about political balance within the party is important, and that makes the david lammy and yvette coopen makes the david lammy and yvette cooper, mystery all the more intriguing. >> well, let's now we're going to be passing on the baton to martin daubney very soon. he is here. you can't see him , here. you can't see him, obviously, because we've got all eyes on downing street at the moment for this, unveiling of the cabinet, but a number of people have now gone into number 10. would you like to read us

the list? >> yes. so far we have angela raynen >> yes. so far we have angela rayner, pat mcfadden, wes streeting peter kyle , rachel streeting peter kyle, rachel reeves, david lammy, shabana mahmood and john healey. and chopperis mahmood and john healey. and chopper is on standby. all eyes on the gates of downing street to bring you the latest martin daubney. you're with us now on this momentous day, an afternoon you'll be picking up the mantle from, emily and i very shortly thoughts on what we've seen today there. right. >> well, it's just all history unrolling before our eyes, isn't it? i'm old enough to remember 1997. i've got to say, the national mood doesn't feel quite as enthusiastic as that. is that as enthusiastic as that. is that a yvette cooper yvette cooper ? a yvette cooper yvette cooper? >> yes. there she is. >> mystery may be solved. there i think, like alison said, it would be extraordinary if she wasn't on the right. >> well, we're watching yvette cooper christopher. >> okay. and i hear ben and emily. here is a here is a yvette cooper the shadow home secretary, and we're intrigued about what role she'll get. we had expected to take the home secretary role in the . cabinet.

secretary role in the. cabinet. let's see what you want to say . let's see what you want to say. we'll stop the small boats. yvette cooper . it's going to be yvette cooper. it's going to be home. home secretary yvette coopen home. home secretary yvette cooper. how will he felt the boats? yvette cooper . boats? yvette cooper. >> how can you control legal migration? >> yvette cooper . yvette cooper. >> yvette cooper. yvette cooper. they're ignoring the questions, but saying hello to the policeman. that might be a signal of what she wants to get, >> there we go. the potential new home secretary already building rapport with our brave and courageous coppers on downing street. >> absolutely not. the seas. i mean . and talk about entering mean. and talk about entering the battlefield because, of course, immigration and small boats is all over the home. home office is brief. be intriguing to know whether sir keir bothers with ministers straight. secretary of state for legal and illegal migration, which rishi introduced in the closing months of his administration. i suspect not, yeah, i agree with that.

>> he's got one of the biggest jobs in all of parliament and we're talking about how nigel farage and reform are going to go in there and try and create merry, you know, hell. and that is going to be the issue, the wedge issue, that they're going to continually go in at small boats won't suddenly stop a lot of people saying they might actually increase. she's got one heck of a job on martin. >> what do you make of the scenes we saw at the reform press conference? five, six, seven protesters causing havoc, causing chaos, not letting nigel farage get his speech off the ground? is that a cause for concern? >> i think it's a great cause for concern and i think the problem with political hostility is that those on the liberal left don't seem to think that the rules apply to them , and i the rules apply to them, and i think we have a huge hypocrisy at the heart of that. >> i was on the stage on brexit night when somebody tried to attack nigel farage. in fact, i got them around the neck. i pulled them off the stage. yeah, i mean they were trying to get to him. this is on the january the 31st back in 2020. and these people don't seem to think they have to play by the rules. we had keir starmer, i think very soberly, very calmly. i think very, very, very kind of

statesman like saying this is a new era in politics and straight away we have this, this, this rubbish, this hostility . and rubbish, this hostility. and what they don't understand as well is that nigel farage, reform lee anderson, they will be loving that. they'll be loving the attention they're getting , proving the point. getting, proving the point. you're the exact thing that you accuse us of. you're the ones trying to shut us down. you're the ones trying to deplatform us, trying to cancel as it exactly plays into the hands of actually what nigel farage wants as a message. >> now, i'm surprised we haven't actually had confirmation of any of these positions within the cabinet yet. at the moment, we just know a number of labour politicians have gone, senior politicians have gone, senior politicians gone. we have a number 10. >> a quick recap on who has gone in. emily, you can do the honours. >> absolutely. we have yvette coopen >> absolutely. we have yvette cooper, who's been serving as shadow home secretary. we have angela rayner, of course. she was the first in pat mcfadden wes streeting, who's just clung on to his seat last night. peter kyle, rachel reeves, also david

lammy, who's been working as shadow foreign secretary, shabana mahmood and also john healey. so that is about nine names. yeah, nine politicians who have gone in there and fascinating fate on that list . fascinating fate on that list. >> mcfadden wasn't a shadow secretary of state mcfadden was campaign coordinator, a real effective wheeler and dealer who, of course , delivered victory. >> yeah, he's been really, really good. i think. and he's a great continuum between the blair years . blair years. >> absolutely right. >> absolutely right. >> and that experience there are going to be so many first time parliamentarians. you know alastair there's going to be a huge vacuum of experience. people like mcfadden, they'll be the elder statesmen. the hand on the elder statesmen. the hand on the shoulder a great, great asset to a fresh incumbent. part of new arrivals who will really need their help, really need the helping hand. >> and i wonder how the nerves will be in the labour camp. >> this is such a huge day. they've been building up to it for so long. of course, this was quite a snap election, wasn't it? but they've been preparing

for this moment for months and years. 14 years of conservative government in different ways. there's a lot of pressure, isn't there, alistair ? there, alistair? >> there is. and which is why, again, i don't want to flog a dead horse, but which is why i was so surprised at how i thought inept and lacklustre. sir keir's speech was just before going into downing street. people like boris johnson, tony blair himself realised and margaret thatcher more than anyone perhaps that that's a moment where you really stamp your personality and authority on the nation, because an awful lot of people will have been watching it and listening, whether it was on gb news, itv or the bbc. but it's a big telly day. >> playing devil's advocate is that not just keir starmer? i mean he has. he's accused of having no personality and he maybe strategically doesn't. i mean, i think they've said before the labour campaign we don't want to operate on big personalities and, you know, caricatures. we want to just get on with serious virtue out of necessity, not i fear you may be right, although i'm sure his

friends would slap both of us down for saying it. >> but then the british public are very rapidly going to wonder whether this is the guy they want to be representing them on the world stage, whether it's the world stage, whether it's the upcoming nato summit or the g7 meetings, that that, cameron and sunak hosted and thatcher attended, i remember covering the one in, in houston, where it was gorbachev was there. and, kohl was there from germany after the fall of the berlin wall. i mean, these are big events. the world stage or, let alone the relationship. whoever becomes the next, president of the united states of america in november, and that takes a bit of personality to see your way through that. >> that does indeed. i don't know if we want to have a little while. we're waiting to see if any more figures arrive. if we could have a little look at the press conference, perhaps the reform uk, to just check on things, whether there's been any more trouble . or we could show more trouble. or we could show some pictures for you . this is some pictures for you. this is all going on at the same time. there you can see the four

elected candidates there, four elected candidates there, four elected mps for reform uk us martin daubney. >> you're familiar, of course, with nigel. what about richard tice lee anderson? and is rupert on the end there? yeah, rupert lowe was the number one on the ticket in the west midlands. >> i was number two on the ticket of the mep, so i was elected on the night in birmingham. >> sorry, sorry to interject. so, so we're going to go back to chris hope in downing street very quickly. >> number nine. yeah well emily. and. emily and ben . and. emily and ben. >> yes. we can hear you. what's going on? yeah we just saw anneliese dodds. >> who's a we saw emily. emily, we just saw anneliese dodds. who's the labour party chair, going into a different route into downing street. she went up through number, number, nine downing street, which is normally the room that we go to for our lobby briefings. i don't know why that is. so i'm unable

to shout to her what her job might be for you both. but she has entered downing street, so anneliese dodds in downing street. >> can you see if we can go back to nigel farage there in central london? >> right. so go back to that , >> right. so go back to that, that question you asked me about the fab four, as they're calling themselves, which i think is good. >> the reform rempe the reform mp. >> so rupert lowe great yarmouth, he was a west midlands mep, former chairman of southampton football club, a landowner, has a great amount of interest as well in private health care businesses . an health care businesses. an extremely clever bloke, a very, very clever bloke . he's got the very clever bloke. he's got the common touch. she's quite a posh fella, but he's got the common touch. when you're down on the cobbles, you know, he knows football fans, he knows how to talk to people richard tice as well, you know, in skegness a lot of people say, well, you know, how did he know where skegnessis? know, how did he know where skegness is? they were kind of mocking him on that. but but in terms of the metrics of that seat, what we're seeing is, is a

pattern. the forgotten coastal towns of britain, the end of the line, the forgotten brexit towns, big unemployment, lots of, old age, lots of lots of poor health. and that's where the reform party vote is . the reform party vote is. >> okay, well, back to downing street, christopher. hope you're still with us. our political edhon still with us. our political editor. you say anneliese dodds is the latest to go into number 10. now, she was acting as the party chair and shadow secretary of state for women and equalities. >> that's right, emily and ben. that's right. well, here we're here in downing street. it's an overcast downing street and we've seen a procession of, currently, as things stand, shadow cabinet members going into 10 downing street. the first person we saw going in, of course, was the deputy leader, angela rayner, followed by others, john healey. interestingly, pat mcfadden was the second one after angela rayner and he of course was the key person given a lot of credit for this general election landslide, overnight, peter kyle ,

landslide, overnight, peter kyle, he's the science and technology secretary. john healey, the shadow defence secretary. david lammy again, the shadow foreign secretary. he's interesting because many think he might be moved from that role and the role given to someone like douglas alexander and ump just elected overnight. but that may not be the case, but, david lammy of course, been given some support and help in getting to know the team around donald trump from guess who nigel farage and now the mp for clacton. rachel reeves. of course she's gone in. we know she will be the chancellor. so the roles we know for sure are that rachel reeves will be the chancellor and angela rayner will be the deputy leader. and probably something like the housing secretary wes streeting shadow health secretary. she has gone in. he's gone in. forgive me. and also yvette cooper. the shadow home secretary, anneliese dodds, the party chair , has gone dodds, the party chair, has gone in a different way through number nine. downing street. i'm just looking over my left shoulder and there's a as i was speaking to you, i can confirm

that angela rayner has been made. as i said, the shadow secretary of state for health for levelling up, housing and communities. she'll also be, deputy minister. coming towards her now is jonathan reynolds. now he is the currently the shadow business secretary, he's widely tipped to hang on to that role. he's been widely, widely praised for being for being supportive of business and helping the labour party connect with its business, business supporters, when mr reynolds gets near me, i'll shout at him and see what he might want to do. but there's lots of, shadow cabinet members being given top jobs right now around the boat shaped cabinet table, probably posing for photographs. we've just seen the photographs drop of angela rayner, jonathan reynolds. what job do you want in government, sir? what's your plan in government? business secretary . to be in government.

secretary. to be in government. mr he looks very happy. he is enjoying being in government. as i asked him for gb news viewers, i asked him for gb news viewers, i think a lot of these people, i mean, they don't forget these people. not many of them have any, any experience at all of being in government. i think of the top team have gone in so far, just, pat mcfadden and john healey, served in the back end of the new labour government in the noughties . otherwise, they the noughties. otherwise, they are completely new to this. they've been watching, endless tory reshuffles on tv, on gb news and wondering why can't they get a piece of the action while they're getting it now? and i think jonathan reynolds there. as things stand, the shadow business secretary, he's clearly enjoying his moment, i asked him i asked him, well, what? i asked wes streeting, if he wanted to be the health secretary. he said hope so. he'll find out soon. he, of course, is being someone who is advocating using private health care to clear the nhs, waiting

lists, yvette cooper. she's a shadow home secretary. as we, as things stand, she, really ignored my questions. but she said hello to the policeman. and perhaps that was a symbol. of what? of the job. she wants to be the home secretary. but as things stand, they're all in there posing for photographs. we expect them to process out shortly , through the front door shortly, through the front door and out through the treasury. straight on from the front door of number 10 downing street. but as things stand, martin, we wait and see what roles they're getting. and since i understand and get the information for you, i'll bring it straight to you. >> okay, chris, thank you very much. that update from downing street, this is martin daubney. i'm now in the hot seat from three till six. thank you very much for joining three till six. thank you very much forjoining us of course, much for joining us of course, we'll have a full update on this labour new cabinet as it unrolls. the only official appointment so far as announced. there is angela rayner, has been announced as deputy prime minister and the levelling up and housing secretary. a lot of familiar names going in there and as i was just saying to alastair stewart, who's rejoining me on the set now, a

lot of inexperience. and so pat mcfadden was a name there that leapt out. as somebody who's been around since the blair years he ran a very good campaign, i thought didn't take any risks, didn't need to. let's face it, the conservative campaign totally imploded from day one. from the first moment on that step, there where the rain pounded down and rishi sunak , things could only get sunak, things could only get wetter. giving your pundits, your your critics, the lines they need . it kind of somehow they need. it kind of somehow got worse from there , which was got worse from there, which was astonishing, the d—day debacle, the betting scandal we'd had the natalie elphicke defection shortly before that. all of this, a record 75 members of parliament stood down, didn't even want to face the music. i think they knew what was coming. and that came true. and it was raining down on downing street again. this morning. but now, to use a great political cliche , use a great political cliche, alastair, this is a fresh dawn. what can we expect? because the

thing that leaps out at me here, we've had a lot of people from the opposition benches who've been doing a lot of heckling for a long time, but they don't have the key experience required in these big, big jobs, particularly of yvette cooper . particularly of yvette cooper. she's been she's been famously, criticised for holding up a couple of years ago, a sign that said refugees welcome. she's got a very, very pro—immigration stance, suddenly got one of the biggest jobs in all of government . it's her job to government. it's her job to crack down on the gangs, to stop the boats. the rhetoric now stops. alistair stewart the job begins. do these people have what it takes, >> it's arguably the most important question of the afternoon , and my answer would afternoon, and my answer would be that does the prime minister have the experience that is required to do the job as chief executive of this hold government running this country of ours? and the answer to that is patently no. can he rely on a

great, experienced person of sound judgement as his deputy? in my view, with angie raynor to thatis in my view, with angie raynor to that is no, not yet . i think that is no, not yet. i think rachel reeves is a steady pair of hands, well experienced. knows her brief is well regarded in quarters of the city, knows the bank of england, who it will very shortly give her the best christmas present imaginable. and that's the reduction in interest rates that that the tories were, were hoping for and praying for. there are 1 or 2 quite experienced fellows and you said it yourself when you came into the studio a few moments ago, people like john healey and also people, like, sorry, john healey at defence, peter kyle , who've got great peter kyle, who've got great experience in opposition but not in running a department, and sue gray who will be running the government, in effect administratively will help out there. and i think for students

of all of this stuff, they should watch very carefully what happensin should watch very carefully what happens in the civil service. how many sir humphrey's will be packing their bags and briefcases right now, waiting for new permanent secretaries to come in and help these inexperienced ministers out. >> now, alison, the one appointment we do have confirmation is angela rayner appointed, appointed as deputy prime minister. yes. levelling up and housing a chequered history. when she know tory scum, she she used some quite fruity language in the past. of course, there was the council house, inside the investigation into her of course all charges dropped, but nevertheless she she brings baggage to the table. is she, do you think a worthy prime deputy prime minister? she's got the common touch. you could say people relate to her. that's a key asset. she's not one of the tristram's who went straight from university into the system. she brings that. but do you think she could potentially be a source of trouble for the labour party? >> i think that i think she'll

need a great deal of support. but of course we both know and so too do people watching and listening know that forming cabinets is a great balancing act. and she ticks one hugely important box and that is the left, the left and the trade unions are very fond of her and like her a lot, i think. i think sir keir genuinely likes her as well and has stood by her through thick and thin, and she's had hiccups in her private life as well as the housing issue. it's not been the easiest year and a half for her, so . but year and a half for her, so. but she certainly doesn't have very much experience to bring to it, but she's she's a gutsy lady of that. there is no doubt at all. >> what do you think? make of it. you mentioned a great point there, alistair. this idea of, you know, the left, like. now, sir keir starmer has been very adamant. i've changed the party. i've cleaned up the party. he means the anti—semitic wing of the party. yes, he means the hard left. he means the corbynistas who ironically kept his seat in islington and beat the labour candidate. but what

about the union side? the left wing union side , angela rayner, wing union side, angela rayner, is very big on workers rights. she's very big on redistribution of asylum seekers around the country. you will all take your fair share and will the unions come knocking , fair share and will the unions come knocking, demanding their pound of flesh, demanding we've supported you for all this time. opposition labour party . what's opposition labour party. what's in it for us now? >> historically, they will do, of course. and that was that relationship was the vital thing about tony blair. and we're both of an age that we will remember. beer and sandwiches at number 10 under harold wilson, and the might of what used to be called the transport and general workers union, and is now unite the engineering workers. and i found it fascinating. it was well reported at the time, but we've not talked about it yet today, and i'm glad you raised it. and give me the chance. but this very thin manifesto upon which sir keir starmer and labour were elected to power was initially rejected by the trade union side at the labour

national executive committee, and the trade unions are still massively represented on that committee and are hugely involved in the evolution of policy and of course, other other funders. the biggest donors to the labour party . so donors to the labour party. so they've got 1 or 2 of their people in. hurrah for that and well done. but watch this space. i suspect it's just a work in progress as far as they're concerned, and wes streeting what an entry he's got. >> the junior doctors strike was mysteriously called off right before the general election, but they will still have their bowl out. they will want some coins dropped into their bowl . 35. dropped into their bowl. 35. they've been saying now labour, i continually tried to draw them on this throughout the campaign. so what will you pay them? what will be your response to these demands of course, they say, tight lipped, that tap dance is over. tight lipped, that tap dance is over . now that they're in power, over. now that they're in power, they're going to be sitting down with these unions, and presumably they won't be watering down their demands any time soon. >> i would have thought not. there's no indication of that from, from from the from the doctor's side . but but wes

doctor's side. but but wes streeting who's who's a charming, polished, media performer, may well be the very first to find out that rachel reevesis first to find out that rachel reeves is a tough cookie. because at the moment, the suggestion from the institute of fiscal studies is, as rishi sunak said time and time again, the money ain't there . and so the money ain't there. and so they will have to find another way of trying to placate the junior doctors. and they've seen off the consultants with a lot off the consultants with a lot of money. but also don't forget that streeting on his agenda from the thin manifesto is this pledge of thousands of more operations, brand new gp centres and the rest of it to get those waiting lists down. i remember very clearly when the only way to get waiting lists down for labour under tony blair and alan milburn was to do a deal with bupa, the private sector, which they did, and alan milburn told me the relationship between labour and the private sector is

not a one night stand. well, it'll be interesting to see whether they go down that road again. >> well, that's a great point to bnng >> well, that's a great point to bring up because wes streeting has appeared quite progressive in this private nhs relationship moving forward. of course , tony moving forward. of course, tony blair ushered that in. that was one of the commonalities of 1990, and in one of the debates, sir keir starmer said he would not allow even a relative of his who was in a bad way to go private. so we have the first quandary if wes streeting ticket is actually we're haemorrhaging. the ability to be able to deal with waiting lists. they always say, let's go to specsavers to get your eye set. it seems like a good idea. that's a private partnership of sorts when it comes to actually treating operations. bupa. that's the kind of thing that nigel farage would like to see happen. >> well, i was, i was talking to some people outside as well and i would love to i'd love to see farage and reform uk try two little policies just to see how it goes. and that is the old thing about ask not what your

country can do for you, but what you can do for your country and thatis you can do for your country and that is offer tax relief on private health insurance and offer tax relief on private school fees, which are about to go school fees, which are about to 9° up school fees, which are about to 90 ”p by school fees, which are about to go up by 20. >> and so therefore we have a we have a schism. we have a quandary. how do we address record waiting lists if there's no money? we can't just build hospitals and hire thousands of new clinicians or doctors without money. so the barrier is how do we go private? well, the as you said, the new prime minister has said he wouldn't even do that if a relative were on their deathbed . sure. on their deathbed. sure. >> i mean, i think also rachel will want to rachel reeves will want to ask. i hope she does anyway, and i'm sure she will. and sue gray, as well as the top civil servant , and sue gray, as well as the top civil servant, is to and sue gray, as well as the top civil servant , is to say, where civil servant, is to say, where has all of that money gone? because whatever people say and the idea of the nhs having been starved of money under the tories, it's simply not true. >> and it's only to quickly cross the chris hope. >> hi, martin. yeah, i can

confirm that rachel reeves has been made the chancellor of the exchequer. she's the person who has a budget, probably in september, and it'll be checked and vetted by the office for budget responsibility. we know that she'd be living next door at number 11 downing street, next door to the prime minister. coming up now is ed miliband. now he of course, was a shadow climate change secretary. now his role will be so important, i think, for so many people watching gb news will he try and weaken any of those net zero targets? we know the labour party wants to try and rule out or ban any new petrol engines from 2030. what job do you want? mr miliband? do you want to be a climate change secretary, sir? what job do you want, sir? he says i'm very jolly. walk through. he's walked through the door his first time walking through the door as a minister about to be made. he tried, of course, to win the election 2015 and failed, he said, it's a

glorious day, chris, to me @gbnews, which is all a glorious day for the labour party. it certainly is. we'll see how it means for our viewers and listeners in due course. >> fascinating stuff. so alastair stewart there, that's the second official nominee, rachel reeves , appointed the new rachel reeves, appointed the new chancellor of the exchequer . no chancellor of the exchequer. no great surprises there. >> no. and very sensible because she's been studying that brief for a long time. she has good experience in that area. she knows the numbers and i think she's a tough political cookie. so when people come with their begging bowls and shaking them in front of her, she'll have no problem at all in just saying to people like, wes streeting, i'm sorry sunshine, it can't be done. this time. it can't be done. this time. it can't be done yet. >> and that in a sense, alyssa is a bit of continuity from the presbyterianism, the kind of tight purse strings of the brown years , because i think in a good years, because i think in a good way she'll be a bit of an old mother hubbard. there's nothing in the cupboard. so, so if wes streeting goes to her and says, well, i need 35% forjunior

doctors, she'll go, well, good luck with that. >> and you're talking about gordon brown, who certainly was was very, very good at that sort of thing. although what he did to the pensions and our gold reserves, i shall never quite forgive him for. but that's a that's another debate to have on. perhaps another day. is that it ? it seems to me that it's one it? it seems to me that it's one of the great tests for the prime minister, not only his chancellor of the exchequer, but it is it is one of the great tests of the prime minister, and thatis tests of the prime minister, and that is ability to stand by what he said in the campaign. and thatis he said in the campaign. and that is we won't be able to do everything straight away. and that's quite a difficult message to sell to a party that thinks it's just awarded itself a three figure majority. that's right. >> and alistair, a key, key difference when we just cannot repeat enough between today and that fateful day in 1997, is the sheer level of national debt. 2.7 trillion in the red, the biscuit tin is totally empty . biscuit tin is totally empty. britain is broke. britain will

change, the new prime minister is saying, but where's the money for that change and the money? a lot of people have been saying the conservative party, their their message failed or it can only come via one way taxation. but surely that's the only route to raise all this wonga. >> well , sir to raise all this wonga. >> well, sir keir, were he sitting at this table or rachel reeves, were she sitting at this table, would say growth to you? now, i did economics at university and i'll tell you, part of that answer is true. the other part of the answer is absolute, complete nonsense. the idea of suddenly magicking up 5 or 6% growth in the united kingdom economy in the current climate and the current circumstances is laughable. but if you do get an economy that's expanding, more people come into work rather than taking benefit, and they pay national insurance, albeit at lower tory levels, and they pay tax . otherwise, she and they pay tax. otherwise, she and he are going to have to find other sources of income, whether it's capital gains tax, whether it's capital gains tax, whether it's tax, whether it's

inheritance tax or whatever, or as a lot of people have been saying , and even yesterday saying, and even yesterday morning's newspapers were saying is watch council tax, although that's not a direct source of revenue for central government , revenue for central government, it reduces the amount that central government has to pour in to local authorities. >> and we're we're of a vintage where we can go back even further and we remember the super taxation of the labour party of yore. yes. and if we get to the point where suddenly it's like, okay, so these taxes will they all they only affect the richest, you know, capital gains tax, inheritance tax. they'll just they'll just take it all the pips and squeeze out of them until the end. oh, denis healey , squeeze the pips until healey, squeeze the pips until they squeeze. >> but the tax thing , it's the >> but the tax thing, it's the beatles lp revolver has a fantastic track on it. taxman. it's called it's one for you. 19 for me, says the tax man, as george harrison wrote, and a lot of those biggest brains, biggest earners never came back to britain.

>> so i wonder , and it's the >> so i wonder, and it's the same with oil companies who are looking at these, these massive windfall taxes. why have they come in and invest in britain if they know they're walking into this, this kind of flail of lead in the form of taxation . so you in the form of taxation. so you can't just tax everything to the hilt and expect the, the richest to passively soak it up. okay? we need to go back to chris hope at downing street. i think he's got some more for news us. >> lisa nandy. yeah martin lisa nandy, who's the shadow, aide secretary, is walking down. downing street looking very jolly in a grey suit, again, we only know two confirmed appointments, so far. rachel reeves and angela rayner's housing secretary will ask, and she looks delighted. lisa nandy . she looks delighted. lisa nandy. goodness me, she's pleased to being back in government for the first time. lisa nandy you're going to be the aide secretary. do you want to look after the world's poor lisa nandy ? have world's poor lisa nandy? have you been told what you're getting yet ? there's lisa nandy

getting yet? there's lisa nandy there, grinning like a cheshire cat @gbnews, but no word on what she wants to do in government. yeah, lisa nandy not clear if she was smiling broadly, but not saying what she'll be getting in government. but of course we. so far there's a lot of people crammed in around that cabinet table, the coffin shaped cabinet table. now, no one has left yet. we do know the following though. angela rayner is the deputy leader and the housing secretary. local government secretary. we know that rachel reevesis secretary. we know that rachel reeves is the chancellor. that's all we know so far. but who's in there? let's run through the list quickly. peter kyle, science and technology. pat mcfadden. he was the general election coordinator. he was the second one to go in. and before rachel reeves. very interesting there. john healey, the shadow defence secretary. as things stand, david lammy, the shadow foreign secretary and wes streeting. he said i hope so. when i said you want to be health secretary in this new government. yvette cooper, the shadow home secretary, wouldn't answer my questions but did speak to the policeman. is that

a hint? she wants to be the home secretary. and anneliese dodds, the party chair, went in that way. somewhere down there, number nine downing street, not number nine downing street, not number number 10. i don't know why that was. jonathan reynolds is the shadow business secretary. he's gone in and ed miliband just recently, he is the of course, the shadow climate change secretary. and here comes, ian, ian murray, who is the shadow scotland secretary, ian murray. john, look after scotland a lot. a lot of mps have in scotland, sir. yes.ian of mps have in scotland, sir. yes. ian murray, the shadow scotland secretary. i think he , scotland secretary. i think he, i couldn't hear what you said frankly, because i wanted to shout at the same time, but of course labour did very well in scotland. they've got he was for a long period the single scotland mp for the labour party up in scotland, no longer with the collapse in the snp's vote, there . so we'll wait and see there. so we'll wait and see what role he gets in government. but there's a lot of people now crammed around around the table.

martin, the covid shape table , martin, the covid shape table, and we're waiting to see and as more appointments are made, we'll bring them to you. >> thank you. chris, it's all happening, i'd just like to thank alastair stewart has put in an epic shift. he's just about to depart us as a guest. alastair, on a personal level, it's been an absolute delight not to have the privilege of sharing a tv studio with you. like this. i've grown up listening to you. thank you very, very much. going back to chris hope now. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> yes, definitely. >> yes, definitely. >> louis, take care. has to be louis. okay. >> we've got louise hague , we've >> we've got louise hague, we've got louise hague. now the shadow transport secretary. chris and angela porter vie angela rayner. they're leaving . it's all they're leaving. it's all happening here. this is louise. louise. will he be privatising the railways? do you. do you plan to privatise the railways? louise hague, who's going to pay for them ? who will pay for your for them? who will pay for your plans? louise hague, that's louise hague, the shadow transport secretary. her plan is

to privatise large parts of the railways after they run out of their current franchises, and we'll see how the government might pay for that and fund that. you also saw walking out through the front door was angela rayner gave some big thumbs up when she was asked, are you looking forward to be the housing secretary? so, sorry that it came at me from both sides there. i think this is, someone else coming now. that's lucy powell, i think. yeah martin, if you're still with me, lucy powell is approaching. yeah. lucy powell, she's the shadow welfare and work and pensions secretary. and she's got a key role in trying to cut that welfare bill. we've discussed before on the programme lucy powell will you cut well for the welfare bill. >> see you later. she's leader leader leo house. >> i think her current job is leader of the house of commons. forgive me . she gave me a forgive me. she gave me a puzzled look there with that question. but there we are. that's lucy powell going to number 10. there's quite a lot

of people in there now. so we'll find out what jobs are getting very shortly okay chris. >> so we'll come back to you as and when we have updates. but now let's cross to central london where our political correspondent olivia utley is joined by the reform party mp for ashfield , lee anderson. for ashfield, lee anderson. olivia, welcome to the show mp. >> hello. yes i'm here with the new reform mp for ashfield , lee new reform mp for ashfield, lee anderson. lee. that was a spicy press conference with all of those hecklers. can i ask you first, what's reform planning to do with its newfound power? >> well, we're going to go over to that place. i think it's tuesday. we go back, olivia and all this government to account because we've seen time and time again that the conservative party, sadly, isn't the voice of the people. it's not doing what the people. it's not doing what the public wanted it to or what the public wanted it to or what the public wanted it to or what the public voted for it to do in 2019. it's time for a change overin 2019. it's time for a change over in that place. and the reform party. there's only four of us. there's four mps, but we're quite vocal. i think we can give a keir starmer and his new cabinet a run for their money there, and speak up on

behalf of the british people, because for far too long in this country, that place over there doesn't represent the views of the british people. and that is what we saw last night. over 4 million people voted for something different, and they put four mps from a new party in the house of commons. >> i mean, you say you're going to hold the government to account. can you really achieve much with just four ipp? >> it's not just about having mps in the house of commons, it's about having a national platform as well. it's about growing an army of people. you've probably heard this time and time again over this past 6 or 7 weeks. the people's army is on the march and the people's army are reformers. people are supporting people like me and richard and nigel. people are fed up with mainstream politics. they've chosen something different . they're engaged. we different. they're engaged. we saw the conference a few weeks back in birmingham. 5000 people turned up. there's a demand out there by the british public, certain, you know, certain parts of the british public for something different. reform uk offer something different to the people. like i say, levy, who's been ignored for far too long by the main two parties. >> nigel farage, i thought, implied there that he won't be leading the party into the next

election. >> is he already itching to get to over to the states? >> no, i think it must have been listening to a different speech, olivia. or you've been on the pop olivia. or you've been on the pop this afternoon. >> i think he said there would probably be someone younger and better along by 2020, he says. >> i said that a few times. you know, but nigel's here to stay. he's made a massive decision to come back and lead the party. it's paid off. the gamble paid off is now a member of for parliament clacton. he's our leader. he's going to lead us into the next election. >> fair enough. that's pretty definite. there and you talk about reforming the voting system you don't like first past the post. understandably, given what happened last night. but we did have a referendum in 2011 on reforming the voting system, and it came back very clearly in favour of first past the post. do you want a second referendum? >> well, i think what it is, i think at that time when there was a referendum, we didn't have a situation like we had last night. i mean, people out there can be very confused, you know, for over 4 million people voted for over 4 million people voted for a particular party and only got four seats where the lib dems, they probably got, you know, just a few million more

votes and they've got got i think it's 50 or 60 seats. people are looking at that today and scratching their heads and thinking, how can that happen? you know, how can the lib dems get 60 odd seats in reform only get 60 odd seats in reform only get four seats, or maybe five. >> so you're in favour of second referendums, then? >> look, referendums are supposed to be once in a generation, aren't they? but like i say, we didn't have the situation at the last referendum. you know people, it was a two party state. people voted labour or conservative, you know, sometimes they voted lib dem. but this situation has turned it on its head, really. people's looking at it like i said, and they're looking at, you know, they went out to vote for something different. and in their millions and we've only got four seats. that seems a little bit unfair. >> there was lots of talk about conservative mps potentially defecting to reform. none of them really came to anything apart from you, of course. can you tell us now who you were in talks with? no. fair enough. lee well, very, very good to speak to you. and congratulations on last night. that was the new reform mp for ashfield, lee anderson. there is a quartette of them there and as we've heard

both from nigel farage and that press conference and from lee anderson just now, they are really planning to create fireworks in the commons when we go back, when they go back next week, i think that will be worth a watch. >> thank you olivia. live there. live with lee anderson at the reform party events. there are 3 or 4 interruptive hecklers in the audience there screaming abuse at nigel farage and the reform party being the exact thing they accuse their opponents of. let's go to chris hope now back at downing street . hope now back at downing street. >> hi, martin. yeah so during that excellent interview there by olivia utley , several things by olivia utley, several things have been happening here. pat mcfadden has been confirmed as the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster. that's a very, very senior role. the most senior role in the cabinet office with eyes on all of government's work. he's been so trusted with a very successful general election campaign . that's no election campaign. that's no surprise. while we've been while that interview was going on there with lee anderson, jo stevens, the shadow welsh

secretary, she's gone in liz kendall now. she is actually the work and pensions secretary. forgive me. of course. earlier it was lucy powell and she's a shadow leader of the house. they're all in there. angela smith, baroness smith, she's the shadow leader of the house of lords. she has gone in. who has left so far ? rachel reeves has left so far? rachel reeves has left so far? rachel reeves has left looking happy. and of course we saw angela rayner giving a big thumbs up, which indicating she's quite looking forward to being in government . forward to being in government. so basically, i think the entire shadow cabinet as we know it is either in number 10 now or has started to leave. so we're about to see the big jobs being handed out over the next half an hour. so do stay tuned to us in number 10, of course, more widely, widely to gb news chris o'byrne. >> of course we'll come back to you as more and more of those appointments are confirmed. just in case you're joining us now to quickly recap, angela rayner confirmed as the deputy prime minister and the levelling up and housing minister rachel reevesis and housing minister rachel reeves is confirmed as the chancellor of the exchequer. the

first female chancellor of the exchequer and the third appointments made so far publicly . officially. pat publicly. officially. pat mcfadden, chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, and many more labour mps and shadow ministers, formerly shadow ministers, formerly shadow ministers, have gone through that door and were awaiting their announcements. and of course, we'll bring that to you live as that happens. now, i'm joined in the studio by moutaz ahmed, who's the associate comment editor at the telegraph. thank you very much for patiently waiting there to join in. and i saw you , smiling in. and i saw you, smiling profusely when lee anderson was on the show just a moment ago. and i've been very closely following, actually, the comments section of the telegraph and the below the line comments, i think, are the way to really take the temperature of what voters really think. and the below the line comments of the below the line comments of the telegraph, i think, are the beating heartbeat, the pulse of what conservative voters actually think. they're unvarnished and they have been

for a long, long time , very for a long, long time, very critical of this campaign, of this government, of the former prime minister mumtaz ahmed, and very supportive of reform and lee anderson . tell us more. lee anderson. tell us more. >> well, not many tory mps would have envied lee anderson when he was kicked out of the party or suspended for his comments. i think a lot of them envy him now, because if he'd stood in ashfield as a tory, he probably would have lost. and it's remarkable that he joined this new party, what he calls a people's movement. and he won and he's back in parliament and now, frankly, he can say and do whatever he likes. and that's quite a remarkable thing. >> do you think they call themselves the fab four? and there's a recount underway. they could be the famous or perhaps the infamous five before the day out. i think that recount is happening round about now. we should be getting the results of that. if that comes to pass, do you think they'll be able to have much impact? there's only four of them. is a big gain.

four from nothing in a short penod four from nothing in a short period of time is a tremendous achievement, no doubt, but they will be a small but vociferous minority. can they do much more than just rabble rousing? >> well, the first thing they face is a tory leadership contest where one of the biggest questions, in fact the biggest questions, in fact the biggest question will be do we try in some way either to grab the reform votes or merge with reform, or appeal to these reform, or appeal to these reform mps and what they say will impact that contest, even though they're not in the party and secondly, they will have an opportunity at pmqs and so on to voice their opinion. could i just quickly interrupt you? >> there's been two more. cabinet announcements made in the past few moments, yvette cooper has been appointed the home secretary. you can see that on your screen now. she's the home secretary. and also david lammy named the foreign secretary. now, that is an appointment, mumtaz ahmed, that might raise a few eyebrows. david lammy was very critical of

brexiteers , comparing them to brexiteers, comparing them to nazis. post—referendum been very critical of donald trump. and if the runes if we read the tea leaves, we look over the atlantic looking more likely that donald trump could be the prime the president of the united states of america, david lammy , might have a bit of an lammy, might have a bit of an awkward conversation when they first meet. >> indeed , and critical of >> indeed, and critical of marine le pen, by the way, in france, saying her party, a party of fascists, awkward conversations all around. he's been making an effort with donald trump with the help of nigel farage. but it's an interesting and he's also someone, by the way, who voted against trident a few years ago. so he's going to have to work some personal diplomacy to sort of get over those hurdles. it's interesting that when the rumours were swirling about him not being appointed foreign secretary about it, going to someone like douglas alexander or maybe even lord mandelson, the labour party sort of let it run and everyone assumed he wouldn't get this job now. he'd be glad. he'll be glad to have this job.

be glad. he'll be glad to have thisjob. now be glad. he'll be glad to have this job. now the question is how long he can stay in it. >> and what do you think donald trump, donald trump will be, will be? i mean, he probably won't know who david lammy is, but he will know who he is if he gets in. he'll soon be made aware of the critical past . we aware of the critical past. we talk a lot about the so—called special relationship. if you remember barack obama, will you be at the back of the queue? if we did brexit, what we did do brexit. david lammy was totally against brexit and now he was totally against donald trump. in fact, he wanted to join the protest when president trump, as he was then, was coming to sadiq khan's london. so it's going to be an awkward kick off. and is that a problem? >> it's a big problem. i don't think donald trump forgets these things, even if he learns them late. david lammy himself is quite a malleable person. he can change his opinion of someone or a particular policy when he needs to. the risk for both of them, both david lammy and keir starmer, is that they end up being ignored by a donald trump. and that's how the special relationship goes down the tubes simply by freezing them out. and

yes, donald trump not answering your calls because he thinks you're a leftie hater, that's quite an important thing. we'll see how it how it goes. >> and let's bring attention here. if we can, to yvette coopen here. if we can, to yvette cooper. yvette cooper confirmed as the new home secretary much as the new home secretary much as now again, an image that's often dragged up of yvette coopen often dragged up of yvette cooper. is that one where she was holding that sign that said refugees welcome. now, that's from a few years ago, but does that give us a glimpse into the true mindset and are a lot of people who threw out this just like we saw with actually with the tories get brexit done. but they were remainers. they never really believed in the brexit project. are we about to see people who've been pretty kept pretty quiet during this campaign? we didn't see it. a lot of david lammy, we didn't see a lot of dawn butler, we didn't see a lot of some of the more left wing candidates. and yvette cooper has been very open in the past about being refugees. welcome. being a welcoming nation. that sounds great, but it's now your job to

clamp down on the legal and legal immigration. willa heart legal immigration. will a heart truly be in it? >> well, she has a the toughest performance test. yeah. which is that we can see the numbers. at the end of this summer, we'll be able to see the numbers next summer. we will be able to see the numbers. and if they continue as they are, if we get 600 people crossing the channel every day, then something's going to have to be done. about her role, the home office known as the graveyard of careers. i'm sure she knows that she will have to do something. she wants to keep her role because everyone will be able to see if she fails. >> and then, dovetailing back to our previous conversation about the noise that the reform party will no doubt want to make in westminster. this is the issue that they'll be going at. they'll be going straight for the throat as soon as those those small boat figures start going up, they promise to smash the gangs to go downstream. well, you know, when are we going to see some tangible , going to see some tangible, actual evidence we can see and taste of that working when the numbers going to come down as

you say, these metrics are naked. they're out in the open. there's nowhere to hide. >> yes, well, there's the channel crossings indeed, in fact, about smashing the gangs is if we could, we would have doneit is if we could, we would have done it two years ago. it's very difficult . but there's another difficult. but there's another number, of course, which is legal migration. yes and the manifesto was quite vacuous on that, i assume someone like , that, i assume someone like, yvette cooper is extremely comfortable with legal migration, you know , many people migration, you know, many people in the labour party think it's not just necessary, but morally right. will she tackle that? just got a quick announcement again. >> just breaking now john healey is announced as defence secretary. sorry, as you were saying. >> well , will she tackle the >> well, will she tackle the legal migration numbers , legal migration numbers, because, you know, we're talking about 600 crossing the channel, we're talking about close to a million coming here. through airports, john healey is interesting. he's he's one to keep an eye out for because he

is, relatively experienced. he talks well, he knows a lot about defence. he's probably going to be a big figure in the in the cabinet for years to come. >> yeah. and john he we've had him on gb news. he seems to really really know his brief. you know he's got that heritage. one of the more senior figures again one of the arcs from the blair years along with pat mcfadden. some much much needed experience. i mean, a couple of these people have been ministers before in government. but there's a lot of inexperience and there's a heck of a lot of first time mps, purely by dint of their, of their majority. >> well, these blairite era figures by the way, are the people who kept the discipline dunng people who kept the discipline during the campaign . they really during the campaign. they really won labour this election. the pat mcfadden's of the world have done a remarkable job in keeping discipline, they will now have a bigger role to play in cabinet, not just in maintaining the discipline of round table, but teaching people to how use the civil service, they'll have an

easier job than ministers, easierjob than ministers, i imagine, because there'll be a sympathetic audience in whitehall. >> and i think you're right on that, because pat mcfadden, he appears on gb news often. he's a he's a i would say he's a fan of the channel. but he appears on gb news often and very very very next to impossible to get him into a flap. yeah. so he knows his brief. he's been around the block. you know he's had journalists nipping at his heels for years and years and years. people often talk about is the hand. was the hand of blair a part of sir keir starmer's campaign? actually, the hand of blair was the hand of pat mcfadden. yeah. >> pat mcfadden doesn't just know his briefs. he writes them. so you know , he's he's really so you know, he's he's really a true political operator. you saw this, was it this morning or. it was definitely this morning when keir starmer entered downing street. those images were reminiscent of blair going into downing street. and that was not by accident. these things are carefully crafted. i imagine pat mcfadden probably has something to do with it.

>> and i've got to say, much as when sir keir starmer came out, i think he'd had his hair done. he'd got a new suit on, he got a new tie, he looked much more prime ministerial. and i think that's the kind of thing that people like pat mcfadden understand, though they understand, though they understand that people want to look to somebody not like a corbyn who looked shabby. he looked like he just found his clothes in a skip. half the time. he wouldn't wear a tie, refused to wear the poppy. so the image is key. >> it is key. i sometimes wonder randomly whether they focus group the glasses because at some point keir starmer started wearing his glasses. he took out the contact lenses and he started wearing glasses, and he kept wearing them . was that kept wearing them. was that focus group? of course it was. he looks more prime ministerial. he looks more prime ministerial. he looks more prime ministerial. he looks authoritative. the colour of the suit, the colour of the tie. it's all by design andifs of the tie. it's all by design and it's worked. yeah. >> and just a quick update if you're joining us at the end of this hour just to go through who's been announced in the new parliamentary cabinet, which has

just come into power today , just come into power today, let's go through them as they were announced, angela rayner has been announced as the deputy prime minister and the levelling up and housing minister, david lammy, foreign secretary yvette coopen lammy, foreign secretary yvette cooper, home secretary rachel reeves. she's the first female chancellor of the exchequer . pat chancellor of the exchequer. pat mcfadden was discussing him there. chancellor of the duchy of lancaster and john healey, defence secretary, the two latter names there, as we were talking about them as the aukus, the, the threads between the blair years and the, the new era. >> yes. and we'll see what what what the exact role blair plays is. but i imagine there will be a lot of help from the tony blair institute, for instance. they have a lot of policy ideas that these new cabinet ministers can take up and implement if theyif can take up and implement if they if they choose to . we'll they if they choose to. we'll see. but this is a man who's not shy of, you know , saying that he shy of, you know, saying that he likes tony blair. he likes what

tony blair did in government. will he want to replicate tony blair? >> well, more than that actually. when chris hope at david lammy, they're just coming out of town , 10 downing street, out of town, 10 downing street, he's smiling broadly. no wonder he's smiling broadly. no wonder he's just got the foreign secretary's job. chris hope asked a question that i actually put to chris said ask rachel reeves the question, how involved is tony blair in the campaign? and she openly admitted, oh, we speak to tony almost every day. and i think that was telling. she's about to be the chancellor of the exchequer. blair, i think, will be involved heavily behind the scenes . yes. and this is scenes. yes. and this is something that gb news viewers really, really get a little bit cross about. >> well, he has a staff of 500. he has a house near chequers. he still has his sort of red box briefings. this is a man who never stopped being prime minister in his own mind. and i think he'll be enjoying this moment because he has many ideas, some of them good ideas. you know, during the covid pandemic, the tony blair institute came out with some very good things. now he has

someone to implement them, someone to implement them, someone he can easily convince to implement them . of course to implement them. of course he's going to jump at that opportunity. >> now, you could say that that's a huge asset. he knows to how win. and the labour party have won just again after 14 years of opposition. you could say it's great to be able to speed dial, call a friend, call tony. >> well, exactly . and you know >> well, exactly. and you know something about foreign policy which is lacking with keir starmer and david lammy. >> and it certainly is the area where you would need the most help. i think in this new cabinet. tony blair, of course , cabinet. tony blair, of course, had a proper special relationship with america . some relationship with america. some might say too close, which is why maybe, perhaps wasn't that critical about entering that iraq war. we've got a huge amount to talk about in the next houn amount to talk about in the next hour. thank you very much for joining us, mumtaz ahmed there associates. comments. editor of the telegraph. he'll be sticking with us. but now let's go to your news. it's 4:00 and you're watching martin daubney on gb news. britain's election channel. and here is your latest news headlines with sam francis.

>> martin, thank you very much and good afternoon to you. it's just after 4:00. >> and let's start with a roundup. >> then of all the election news coming to us here in the newsroom, this afternoon. >> and as we've just heard, the uk has its first ever female chancellor as the new prime minister starts putting his top team together. that's taking place as we speak, with sir keir starmer now putting rachel reeves in charge at the treasury, while angela rayner has become the deputy prime minister. >> david lammy will also be in charge of foreign affairs and yvette cooper, heading up the home office, while john healey becomes the defence secretary. earlier, sir keir starmer gave his first speech outside downing street in charge of the nation and promised to rebuild trust in politics. >> this wound , this lack of >> this wound, this lack of trust can only be healed by actions, not words . i know that ,

actions, not words. i know that, but we can make a start today with the simple acknowledgement that public service is a privilege and that your government should treat every single person in this country with respect . with respect. >> well, labour's landslide victory has left the tories with just 121 seats, an extraordinary turnaround from the last election, which saw boris johnson take a historic win. let's take a look. this time at those figures from last night's election count. labour scooping up 412 seats, far more than the 326 needed to secure a majority . 326 needed to secure a majority. meanwhile, the liberal democrats also triumphed. they won 71 seats in a huge increase from their previous total of just 11 seats, leaving the snp with nine and reform exit polls predicting they could have got 13 landed with just four. well, earlier, the now former prime minister

rishi sunak apologised and revealed he'll be stepping down as the leader of the conservatives and said he'd heard voters anger as he spoke outside number 10 for the final time to the country . time to the country. >> i would like to say first and foremost, i am sorry i have given this job my all, but you have sent a clear signal that the government of the united kingdom must change, and yours is the only judgement that matters. i have heard your angen matters. i have heard your anger, your disappointment, and itake anger, your disappointment, and i take responsibility for this loss to all the conservative candidates and campaigners who worked tirelessly, but without success.i worked tirelessly, but without success. i am sorry that we could not deliver what your efforts deserved . it pains me to efforts deserved. it pains me to think how many good colleagues who contributed so much to their communities and our country will now no longer sit in the . house

now no longer sit in the. house of commons. >> and after that short farewell speech, mr sunak took his wife's hand, departed down downing street for the last time, making way for his successor to become britain's fourth prime minister in under two years. meanwhile reform uk leader nigel farage has been heckled this afternoon as he took to the stage in central london. take a listen. thank you mate . thank you mate. >> where are you from ? where are >> where are you from? where are you from? oh well, that makes sense . sense. >> you always sail off on a&e. yes >> are you downwind of a couple already ? you've had a bigger already? you've had a bigger lunch than i've had . lunch than i've had. >> mr farage was forced to repeatedly delay that speech while security staff removed a number of protesters. but he joked that it was good preparation for his new role in the house of commons. as now an mp. it's after reform secured four seats despite receiving a bigger share of votes than the liberal democrats. speaking at that conference earlier, the reform leader said the political

system, he said, needs a makeover . makeover. >> don't show us very interesting things. if we had proportional representation, we'd be looking at nearly 100 seats, but equally equally, first past the post inverts the other way, where labour get almost the same number of votes they got. well, if that less fewer votes they got under corbyn, and yet 200 more seats. it is very much my view that our outdated first past the post electoral system is not fit for purpose, and we will campaign with anyone and everyone to change this electoral system . change this electoral system. >> nigel farage there speaking earlier this afternoon. well, it was a brutal night for the conservative party with eight cabinet ministers and a former prime minister among the casualties, beating 1997 record. in one of the night's biggest upsets, liz truss lost her seat in south—west norfolk to labour. a head spinning turn around from her 49 day stint in downing street less than just two years

ago. but there were more shocks to come with defence secretary grant shapps. commons leader penny mordaunt and former cabinet minister jacob rees—mogg all beaten by labour. there were some surprises for labour, too, with jonathan ashworth, who played a leading role in the party's campaign, losing his seat to a pro—palestinian independent and green party co—leader carla denyer ousted labour's thangam debbonaire in bristol central . a strong bristol central. a strong showing for the liberal democrats, though, saw them topple several tory ministers, but they failed to clinch jeremy hunfs but they failed to clinch jeremy hunt's seat . that's the latest hunt's seat. that's the latest from the election so far. today. we'll bring you much more throughout the rest of the afternoon. for now i'm sam francis and i'll be back with you later on for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts .

>> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, sam. now if you're just joining us, let's just run through the latest cabinet, the new cabinet. sir keir starmer's first cabinet, the first appointment made early today was angela rayner . she was today was angela rayner. she was announced as deputy prime minister and the levelling up and housing secretary wes streeting has just been confirmed as the as the health secretary. that's a straight from shadow to the real deal. david lammy is the foreign secretary. in fact, let's now go to chris hogan at downing street for a full update. chris, over to you. >> net zero energy security . >> net zero energy security. >> net zero energy security. >> hi martin, just got the confirmation of some other jobs while we were on that news break there. so we have wes streeting confirmed as a new health secretary we have, also, got my list here, and also other names, other , other names too, and also other, other names too, and also just gorgeous to walk on in as

darren jones, who's the chief secretary to the treasury, also, we've got shabana mahmood confirmed as the justice secretary. so some of the key roles being being put into into place here we are yet to see who might be the culture secretary. we haven't yet seen steve reid, who was the shadow environment secretary. so the jobs are being divided up. the gates of number 10, the pedestrian gates are still open, which says to me that this place is still locked down. and that's why we with the reshuffle is still under way and we're waiting to see where else some of the big jobs go. but we are as things stand, we know david lammy is the, the foreign secretary. john healey is the defence secretary. yvette cooper is the home secretary, there has been no big surprises here. it looks like sir keir starmer is delivering on the promise of these individuals who have worked hard with him in his shadow team and not changing any roles at this late stage as they go into government. he's given the giving them the chance to

prove themselves. why do it so quickly in this kind of rather mad rush? why not just do for jobs? why do the entire cabinet? he's away most of next week. he flies to america on tuesday for the nato summit in washington , a the nato summit in washington, a massive deal for him to impress on the world stage. and he'll be. he's a pm with virtually no experience to go and go toe to toe with some of the world's biggest leaders. he needs to get the these jobs out the way he needs to fly away next week and let the cabinet get on with their job. let the cabinet get on with theirjob. and let the cabinet get on with their job. and that's what let the cabinet get on with theirjob. and that's what he's their job. and that's what he's done today. >> and chris hope we've just heard in the last few seconds, ed miliband has now been confirmed as the new energy secretary. >> well, and that's that's a huge, huge news for many gb news viewers and listeners because he is the he's the driving force behind this dash for green. the idea that by 2030 this this country will be on the way to on the way to a green economy with wind farms and the like to try and cut some degree of money off

our bills and make all of our household finances much easier. don't forget, the labour has brought back in that ban on all new petrol vehicles from 2035 under the tories to 2030 under laboun under the tories to 2030 under labour, so the acceleration of work trying to get us to do, to be more of a green economy will only only accelerate. under ed miliband, there have been suggestions that he'd been sidelined in the campaign, along with david lammy and others. but in fact, all those people who we thought had been sidelined hadnt thought had been sidelined hadn't been and they are still they are given the jobs they were working so hard on when they were in the shadow cabinet and chris hope that appointment that's going to raise a few eyebrows, because we've heard a lot about the cost of net zero, the cost of individual taxpayers to individual households. >> there are lots of questions about this £28 billion figure. and then it was darren jones who was caught on audio. we covered that last week. he said no. in actual fact, it's going to be hundreds of billions of pounds required to hit labour's net zero targets. are we seeing a

true glimpse now of the direction of travel? as you said, ed miliband was pretty quiet on the campaign trail. now we're seeing the real deal. >> well, we'll wait and see. >> well, we'll wait and see. >> i mean, all this was it wasn't a manifesto on darren jones. of course he was. he was in his defence. he was saying that was private wealth, which private investment, which would be which would be levered off a smaller amount of public investment. so although it sounded like he was talking about all of that being public money, he said at the time that was private investment money. so he felt that he wasn't misspeaking at all. but no question , it will lead a lot of question, it will lead a lot of money, i think, to i'm looking over my shoulder there. who's going to number 10, but it will need a lot of public private money to invest alongside public money to invest alongside public money to invest alongside public money to get anywhere near this greening of the uk revolution. but they've got this idea , this but they've got this idea, this great british energy idea, to move us away from fossil fuels and towards using wind farms and, and, and renewables recycled renewable energy to try

and make sure that we get towards that target. >> okay, chris, thank you for that update from downing street across to you as the new appointments come in. but let's cut back to the studio now because i'm joined by the former labour candidate and activist, susie stride. susie, welcome to the show. fantastic to have your company. so some big names, some big appointments. you must know a lot of these individuals. so let's just talk about a few of the more eye catching appointments. let's start with that one. we just broke ed miliband as energy secretary. ed miliband. it was his idea to put green levies on every household bill. this has stuck in the craw of a lot of people out there who are very worried their bills are going to go up because of green taxes. and now ed miliband, he's been given the job. he'll be in charge of the drive to net zero, and that could cost taxpayers a heck of a lot of money. >> yeah, i mean, i'm a big fan of a band, known him a long time. >> i think it's really important actually. when we look at these people, it's fascinating because

there's only a few that have actually been in government before, you know, because obviously it's been so long. >> and ed miliband is one of them. >> you know, i think when i first met him back in two thousand and seven, he was for a sector minister. and i think that experience is really important. and coming to what you're saying, i mean, look, i just think it's so important that we do have a vision for green energy. and actually, let's look at the positive side of this. we're going to invest in green energy. it's going to create new jobs. it's going to you know it's going to kick start local economies that there's positives to this. it's going to help bring people's energy bills down. surely it's not a good thing that people are paying not a good thing that people are paying so much for their energy bills. do we want to be reliant on foreign oil? no. well, you know, so i think there are positives here as well. >> couple of things to pick apart. there i asked labour candidates, labour ministers, shadow ministers as they were then many, many times on gb news what are these these hallowed new green jobs? where will they be. yeah. what will they pay? where is the money coming from?

i don't think i ever got a satisfactory answer. yeah. and as for lowering the cost of bills, we're told that green energy will bring that down, but we're not told what the cost will be. we hear, we hear, we hear vagueness about, oh, there will be a public private partnership in money. but again, thin on detail. and now ed miliband, there's no getting away from it. he is seen as something of a zealot of the green agenda. he has been given the biggest job in the land, and if people don't see energy bills going down, they don't see, a decline of reliance on importing fossil fuels. let's face it, we have loads of north sea oil. yeah, but it seems to me the labour party's policy has been to just stop oil. >> yeah. i mean , look, there's >> yeah. i mean, look, there's even simple things like, i don't know if you remember this, but going back 15 years when we had, a labour government, going back 15 years when we had, a labour government , there were a labour government, there were these schemes about solar panels on, on houses, you know, people did it and people did it, and it brought down energy bills. >> and there's all these creative things that we can do and ultimately, look, we haven't beenin

and ultimately, look, we haven't been in government for 14 years. am i an expert on, the environment? no, i'm definitely not, but even things like, you know, wind turbines and there's loads of things where actually we've got the cutting edge technology, but often we're like outsourcing it out and there's these crazy things that are going on and my hope is that actually we're going to see, that a lot of this technology, which actually we're quite groundbreaking on that. we are going to, you know, we're going to be building this stuff. we're going to be importing this stuff to other places. i was in, i think it was southampton, and i watched this massive wind turbine, that we just built being taken up by a ship. and i was like, great, we're still building some things, but hopefully over the next ten years we're going to see more of that, but i think, i think ed miliband's a positive, person to have in that position. and i'm yeah, i'm a big fan. >> well, that i can tell, but he won't be a big fan of big bills. thanks for joining won't be a big fan of big bills. thanks forjoining us, susie. thanks for joining us, susie. we'll come back to you shortly. but they've got something to get you to hear because in the last few minutes, the new chancellor of the exchequer, rachel reeves, has been speaking. here's what she had to say.

>> here today, as the chancellor of the exchequer, i know what a responsibility that brings to guide our economy through uncertain times to restore stability in an age of insecurity , to build prosperity insecurity, to build prosperity that draws on the talents of working people. the central mission of this government will be to restore economic growth dunng be to restore economic growth during the election. that was the labour party mission. >> it is now our national mission and it will be for the treasury to lead that mission , treasury to lead that mission, not growth for growth's sake , not growth for growth's sake, but growth for a purpose. >> to make every part of our country better off to deliver on this mission. i want to be the most pro—growth treasury in our country's history . that will country's history. that will mean doing what the treasury does best building growth on a rock of economic stability. but it also means taking on new

challenges and new responsibilities to fix the foundations and to rebuild britain, to drive growth not just in a few pockets of our country, but in every single part of britain . to meet the part of britain. to meet the challenges and to seize the opportunities of the future, including in the energy transition . that is why this transition. that is why this treasury will play its full part in a new era of industrial strategy, working hand in hand with business to make sure that britain is truly open to business once again . and i know business once again. and i know that in an uncertain world, if we can deliver that stability, the investment and reform that the investment and reform that the prime minister and i have set out, then britain can reap the rewards . but for set out, then britain can reap the rewards. but for families at home, i know that this is about more than just lines on a graph. it is about tackling the causes of the cost of living crisis and making work pay. >> okay, and here's steve read there chris hope steve read who's the shadow environment

secretary just arriving here, >> in the house of commons in the in in 10 downing street. steve read there the shadow environment secretary, he asked me how the weather was. it has been raining. i suppose he has. it does want to be the environment secretary. it's an appropriate question from steve read. why are you being away, by the way, bridget phillipson has been confirmed. martin as the as the education secretary. and the chief whip of the shadow chief whip for the labour party is in right now with with the prime minister sir keir starmer. so gradually all of the key roles are being filled. and hilary benn, of course, he was the shadow northern ireland secretary. he also has gone in and is sitting around the coffin shaped cabinet table carving up the jobs . and you were hearing the jobs. and you were hearing this just then, when you came to me from, rachel reeves saying she wants growth for a purpose. it's so clear this government has to get the economy growing. it's desperate to get the economy growing and find ways to try and fund some other measures, some other tax cuts that so many people are crying out for because i think things

stand is a very, very tight fiscal framework, which means there's not enough money to spend on things like that. >> thank you , chris, for the >> thank you, chris, for the latest update. chris. hope, by the way, he's been going since 8:00 last night. what a human dynamo. and let's get back to the studio here susie stride , the studio here susie stride, let's talk there a bit about rachel reeves. now. she was front and centre of the whole campaign. the economy was front and centre of labour's entire campaign. the problem she's going to have , unlike the last going to have, unlike the last time that we saw a major new dawn of red power when tony blair came in, is that the biscuit tin is completely empty. britain is broke. the £2.7 trillion in debt. it's all about change, sir keir starmer keeps saying but how can you change the country without the wonga? and where's the wonga going to come from? a lot of people saying can only come from one place. it's the labour party, it's going to be increased taxes. >> yeah, i mean i know this is what people often throw out, but i think we've made it clear that

we are going to be the party of wealth creation. i mean, you don't get mean. you don't get like a hundred key national business leaders saying we're backing labour. if they didn't trust that , actually we're about trust that, actually we're about to do something major with the economy and with even things like confidence . i think it's like confidence. i think it's really, really important that, you know, lots of people have lost, lost confidence with us. you know, even that budget that we had with kwasi kwarteng and liz truss and, you know , the liz truss and, you know, the nosedive of the pound can't keep blaming the tories now you're in power. well, no, no, i'm not just blaming the tories. but you've got to give it context haven't you. the fact is, is we are where we are because of the last 14 years and ultimately we are going to do things differently. and but we are where we are at the moment because people have lost confidence. you know, the pound dipped, you know, people's mortgages went through the roof . mortgages went through the roof. and so i think there's something about, yeah, i think there's something about we've got a different vision for the future of this country. but also we are going to, prioritise wealth creation and i think what you've got in rachel reeves, you know,

is something that does know what she's doing. you know, she came out of university, she worked for the bank of england. she knows what she's doing. she's she's a scary woman, but in a good way, you know. >> yeah. that's what we need. a little bit of fear. susie stride, thank you very much for joining us in the studio. and will, of course, come back to you later in the show. and i'll be live for downing street throughout the afternoon. and next we'll talk about the shock defeat for one of the shadow cabinet last night. while one of his former colleagues was targeted with chants of free palestine! ask an expert whether sectarian politics are here to i'm martin daubney on gb news.

channel. welcome back. it's 4:23 now. the labour party, the new prime minister, keir starmer, is announcing his cabinet as we speak. that's news in action. let's go through a few of the bigger names, the first to be announced today was angela raynen announced today was angela rayner. she is now the new

deputy prime minister and also the minister for levelling up and housing . so that's more or and housing. so that's more or less like a straight promotion from her shadow role to the role in government. next up is rachel reeves. we just had her on the show there. she's the first ever female chancellor of the exchequer and again a straight leg up from her shadow post to a government post. next up is yvette cooper again. she was the shadow home secretary, now the actual home secretary. that appointment raised a few eyebrows, of course, because she's been pictured in the past with a refugees welcome piece of papen with a refugees welcome piece of paper. now it's her job to clamp down on immigration. that's certainly a talking point. next up , david lammy. another one up, david lammy. another one which may raise a few eyebrows. he's a new foreign secretary and of course was very critical of a certain president trump as he was then. he didn't even want him to come to london. well, over the atlantic. now, there could be a strong possibility of trump getting bit back into power . that could be an awkward

power. that could be an awkward cup of coffee, couldn't it? and finally, another one that's raising a few eyebrows. ed miliband. he's the new energy secretary. ed miliband, famed for his love of net zero zealotry. in fact, green taxes on electricity bills were ed miliband's idea when he was last in government. the price of these net zero taxes is something of a huge talking point . £28 something of a huge talking point. £28 billion was meant to be the cost . actually, it could be the cost. actually, it could be the cost. actually, it could be hundreds of billions of pounds , according to leaked pounds, according to leaked audio from darren jones. okay, we'll have more announcements as they come, but let's move on to this topic next, because earlier this topic next, because earlier this year, nigel farage warned of a rise in sectarian politics in great britain and we saw plenty of evidence of that happening last night. several labour mps, including frontbencher jonathan ashworth, were beaten by pro gaza candidates jess phillips, won by less than 700 votes, but her victory speech was interrupted by pro—palestine protesters. have a listen to this is met with such reticence .

with such reticence. >> anyway , this . this election >> anyway, this. this election has been . can you throw them out? has been. can you throw them out? >> but we have a few speeches. >> but we have a few speeches. >> this election has been the worst election i have ever stood in today, a brilliant community activist who puts on events for every single part of our community came out to campaign with me, and people filmed her on the streets and then slashed her tyres . a young woman, a her tyres. a young woman, a young woman on her own, delivering leaflets , was filmed delivering leaflets, was filmed

and screamed at by a much older man in the street . today and screamed at by a much older man in the street. today i was to be joined by the family of jo cox, who wanted to come out and campaign with me, and there is absolutely no way i could have allowed for them to see what was aggressive and violence in our democracy . democracy. >> astonishing scenes that i'm joined now by the social policy analyst raqib hassan. rakhi, welcome to the show . nigel welcome to the show. nigel farage warned of a rise in sectarian politics. last night we saw the full, ugly, brutal truth of that. what's your take on all of this? >> well, there's no doubt, martin, there has been the rise of what i call a new sectarianism in british politics, especially in parts of england where there are notable

muslim populations. >> now, we've discussed before that supporting the cause of palestinian statehood is a morally respectable one. and there the pro gaza independent candidates, they stood so they could provide an alternative offer for british muslims who were disillusioned with their natural party, the labour party's positioning on israel gaza, saying that there is absolutely no place for sectarian intimidation and harassment in british democracy. >> and i think that there's particularly worrying developments in leicester. leicester south, elected a pro gaza independent candidate while in leicester east, i believe a tory hindu candidate was elected as mp. and i think that it's such a shame that a city like leicester, an english regional city, has essentially been reduced to being a muslim hindu

battleground in the east midlands. it's quite a problem. >> and rakhee something that really took my breath away. i was, i was so i was just so flabbergasted by this. and that's batley, when we look to dewsbury and batley, the batley grammar school teacher three years on, raqib hassan is still in hiding. he still can't work , in hiding. he still can't work, still in fear of his life. a pro gaza independent candidate was elected. iqbal mohammed received more than 40% of the votes. on a pro gaza ticket in batley. i just found that absolutely astonishing. >> well, it's not necessarily because there will be a british muslim communities and british muslim communities and british muslim communities and british muslim communities there who traditionally voted the labour party, and they're they're disillusioned with the labour party's positioning on ongoing developments in the middle east, especially sir keir starmer's lbc interview. as you know,

martin, where he he essentially backed, the cutting of water and electricity to gaza's relatively youthful population. i think the issue here is more that we've seen a campaign which has sought to mobilise a specific religious group around the foreign policy issue in the uk general election. foreign policy is a critical responsibility of the uk government. if you're having campaigns which are looking to mobilise an entire religious group around foreign policy issues or domestic grievance politics, then i do believe that weakens the quality of british democracy as a whole. >> okay. well ray addison nigel farage warned of a rise in sectarian politics. now the labour party lost five seats to such politicians in areas specifically with large muslim populations . raqib hassan, we populations. raqib hassan, we have to leave it there. we're simply out of time. but thanks for joining us on the show. your yourinputis for joining us on the show. your your input is always hugely valued. now. yvette cooper, as you heard, has been made the new

home secretary and we can hear from her now. she's just arrived at the home office a short while ago. congratulations. home secretary . secretary. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> it's been a long time coming for you. >> okay. well look, it's a real honour to be asked by keir starmer to serve as the new home secretary . the first duty of any secretary. the first duty of any government is to keep our country safe, to keep our communities safe and to keep our borders secure. and so that is why my first task as i go into the home office, will be the labour's first steps, which means trying to get neighbourhood police back on our streets, in our communities and also setting up the new border security command to go after the criminal boat gangs that are organising the dangerous boat crossings . crossings. >> we know there are a lot of challenges ahead and after 14 years there is some difficult legacy that we will inherit and we know that that will mean hard graft and not gimmicks ahead in

order to tackle that. >> i think what we also know is it feels that our communities have faced damage and often felt fractured and sometimes brittle as well. and our task has to be to bring people back together and to restore respect and to restore trust. as keir starmer has said today, to restore politics to public service as well. so thank you and let the change begin. >> thank you very much . thank you. >> well, that's yvette cooper the new home secretary. what a job. she has on her hands. what an inbox. she talked there about the border command unit securing our borders is my number one task. it certainly is. and you can't blame the conservatives any more. let's see what the plan is now. the rubber has hit the road. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00. and we'll be live to downing street and sir keir starmer appoints his new cabinet. but first it's time for your latest news headlines with sam francis .

sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much and good afternoon to you. it's just after 4:30. and as we've just after 4:30. and as we've just heard there, sir keir starmer is waiting, wasting no time putting his top team together after becoming the new prime minister today. and in addition to yvette cooper, who we've just been hearing from heading up the home office, rachel reeves is now the chancellor, the first woman to be in charge at the treasury. angela rayner becomes deputy prime minister wes streeting appointed the new health secretary, while bridget phillipson is in charge of education and david lammy says it's the honour of his life to serve as the new foreign secretary well. labour's landslide victory has left the tories with just 121 seats, an extraordinary turnaround from the last election, which saw bofis the last election, which saw boris johnson take a historic win. this time, as the figures stand, it means labour's scooped up 412 seats, far more than the

326 needed to secure a majority. the liberal democrats also triumphed, winning 71 seats. a huge increase from their previous total of just 11, leaving the snp with nine seats and reform uk on four. meanwhile reform uk leader nigel farage has been heckled this afternoon as he took to the stage in central london. take a listen. thank you mate . thank you mate. >> where are you from ? where are >> where are you from? where are you from? oh well, that makes sense. >> you always say yes . >> you always say yes. >> you always say yes. >> are you downwind of a couple already ? you've got a bigger already? you've got a bigger lunch than i've had . lunch than i've had. >> mr farage was forced to repeatedly delay that speech while security staff removed the protesters. he joked, though, that it was good preparation for his new role in the house of commons and comes after reform secured four seats despite receiving a bigger share of the votes than the liberal democrats. while speaking in london earlier, nigel farage said the political system needs a makeover.

>> don't show us very interesting things. if we had proportional representation we'd be looking at nearly 100 seats, but equally equally , first past but equally equally, first past the post inverts the other way, where labour get almost the same number of votes they got. well, if that less fewer votes they got under corbyn and yet 200 more seats. it is very much my view that our outdated first past the post electoral system is not fit for purpose and we will campaign with anyone and everyone to change this electoral system . electoral system. >> those are the latest gb news headunes >> those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'll be back with you in the next half hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> get in touch with the show so far, and if you want to send me

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welcome back. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. later in the show, i'll ask a top economist if he thinks that the labour party can actually turn around the uk economy. but before that, it was a truly miserable night for the tories. everywhere but especially in wales, there's not a single conservative mp left in wales after the party lost all 12 of their seats in the country. well, joining us now is the welsh conservative shadow transport minister, natasha ashagre. natasha welcome to the show. so an absolutely dismal night for the conservatives in wales. what went wrong ? wales. what went wrong? >> sadly it's a devastating night for so many people . i night for so many people. i think unfortunately there have been certain mps, as many of my

colleagues who are based in westminster , stated in their westminster, stated in their speeches last night that due to certain bad behaviours, unfortunately the public opinion was very much against us and i think that we were unable to redeem ourselves . many have redeem ourselves. many have asked for apologies from the pubuc asked for apologies from the public for their poor behaviour, in the welsh parliament, i can vouch for my colleagues that we do our best to try and ensure that we maintain integrity at all times, but i do believe that now is the time for us to take a bit of rest, revive, rebuild , bit of rest, revive, rebuild, and hopefully we'll be able to reinstall that trust within the pubuc reinstall that trust within the public as sooner rather than later. >> so you're saying that the shenanigans of people , for shenanigans of people, for example, having a flutter on the election, the betting scandal, you're saying that is the reason that you did so badly in wales and not actually a more widespread rejection of what the conservative party stands for , penod? >> no, i don't think that's the sole reason i think, unfortunately, this election was very much an election from my personal opinion, was on polls rather than policy. i tended to find that everyone was so focused on what the polls are saying. labour is ahead in the

polls, the polls, the polls, and i'm not personally a believer of polls. but i do know that the wider public tremendously believes in them and has a lot of faith in them. yes, they have very much been a reality of what pubuc very much been a reality of what public opinion has been so far, but it's undeniable that labour's vote share has indeed gone down. and i do believe that the senate elections are going to be taking place in 2026, will show the public at large, having wales in charge for 25 years is not a blessing. it's a curse. >> i wonder if that's an effective strategy. do that because wales was held up by the conservative party throughout the entire campaign of an example. look what happened when labour runs a country record waiting lists. no jobs, 20 mile an hour, speed limits. it was project fear with a welsh accent. it was the most negative campaign and it just didn't work. >> unfortunately. then i have to say, and this is not blaming yourselves as a channel, have been brilliant. but i think a lot of the sad reality is that wales doesn't get enough coverage when it comes to the national press. people outside of wales are very much unaware

of wales are very much unaware of what's going on in wales until they either visit here, hear about it through friends or family, or indeed hear or see something in the news stories. that's about it. and due to the lack of coverage that we receive, people aren't aware as to what the situation is like here in wales. you mentioned so many things and sadly, the reason why welsh labour has been getting away with the way things are for so long is because it just seemed to have this sense of ability that regardless of what will happen , they'll get what will happen, they'll get in. wales has been very much dominated by the labour group for a very long time, and the blame very much for them has been placed on the westminster government. all of their shortcomings are blamed on westminster, so it's very interesting for me, as well as my colleagues, to see where the blame is going to lie now. >> okay, the blame is westminster, the blame is the media. at least the beer's good in wales. have a couple of dnnks in wales. have a couple of drinks to drown your sorrows. natasha ashgar, thank you very much for joining natasha ashgar, thank you very much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. now at the reform got more than 4 million votes but won a mere four seats. a handful of seats. i'll ask whether it's time to ditch the first past the post system, and i can't wait to hear what my next guest ann widdecombe, has to say about

that, because trust me, she's a huge fan of representation. not. i'm martin on gb news, britain's

welcome back. your time is 446. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now. joining the studio hereby , anne joining the studio hereby, anne widdicombe, an a delight to have you as ever. let's start, of course, on reform. so you're you're a you're on the inside, as it were of reform. they got four mps away. is that really a success? the exit poll saying as many as 13. >> it was a terrific success. i mean, first of all, you know, we got a higher share of the vote than the lib dems got. i mean, our system doesn't give us an equal number of seats, but we got a higher share . we got both got a higher share. we got both nigel farage and richard tice into parliament, which is necessary. our two most senior people. in addition to that, lee anderson got back. >> and we do need him because

he's got experience and his experience is even more relevant than mine because it's more recent. >> and then we got a new mp, rupert lowe. so i have no complaints at all. >> okay, good. >> okay, good. >> now let's talk about that topic of first past the post. because one of the great ironies of last night is that the party that has been hammered so often by electoral system, the liberal democrats, well and truly benefited from its red davies party, got around 3.5 million votes, but they won 71 seats. reform uk. meanwhile, as we just heard from ann widdecombe, got over 4.1 million votes, but they got a mere four seats that that could become five after a recount. this afternoon. well, no wonder then, that reform leader nigel farage has said he wants changes to our electoral system. and i'm joined in the panelin system. and i'm joined in the panel in the studio by my panel labour candidate susie stride, and also reforms ann widdecombe. and let's talk about that specific topic of proportional representation. the figures are stark. over 4 million votes for

reform, but only for candidates. in fact, it's 4,070,501 for seats. liberal democrats 348 six 348 6071. seats loads more votes. loads less seats. nigel farage wants proportional representation, so that would have equalled. it would have meant reform got 93 candidates away if it was pr conservatives, 150 for labour, 219, reform would have beaten the liberal democrats . surely if nigel wants democrats. surely if nigel wants it, so do you . it, so do you. >> reform certainly wants it. and it is reform policy. let me make that very clear. if you, supporting reform, they believe in proportional representation. there are two views in reform on this. there's mine and there's everybody else's. and my view , everybody else's. and my view, i'm afraid, is, not favourable to pr because the litmus test of a democracy is whether you can

comprehensively dismiss a government. now, you know, you think of 79, 97 last night. governments can be dismissed. the problem with pr is it tends to throw up coalitions. now you try dismissing a coalition, you break up and they reform. so if you want decisive government and you want decisive government and you want decisive government and you want to be able to get rid of a government first past the post will deliver that. but there's another thing that i think is very important, and that one mp to one constituency and that mp clearly represents that constituency and everybody in it , and you that constituency and everybody in it, and you don't get that with pr and i have benefited from pr, as have you . yeah. we from pr, as have you. yeah. we both got elected to the european parliament and i knew from the very day that my nomination, nomination paper went in that i was going to be elected because i was at the top of the party list. well, you know, tell me that's democracy. >> but what that gives us 40 out of 43 european countries , susie, of 43 european countries, susie, have proportional

representation. it seems they've all got coalitions. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> do you want to be like italy? well chaos. >> okay. but what it would mean, though, nigel farage agrees. you know, the leader of reform uk is that it would allow the smaller parties to actually get a toehold rather than being forever checked out of the system. so is there an argument for more plurality , for greater for more plurality, for greater voices, or do we just continue with swapping rows? >> we got our we got our toehold last night and it was a remarkable achievement of nigel farage and richard tyson and all of reform . of reform. >> it was a remarkable achievement. we got our toehold. we can now build on that. you know, every hundred years or so there really is an upheaval in british politics. and 100 years ago this year, you know, the labour party came to power for the first time. so things can change and we will get that change. now, let me again make it clear that reform is in favour of proportional representation. i'm the awkward squad on that. >> there's already a division within the party on day one. susie stride, what's your take

on pr ? i mean, to give the small on pr? i mean, to give the small parties a chance. >> i mean, i actually agree, i think, look, there's one of the, one of the things i think that makes us great as a country. is there is a level of like stability we have. we're not this country of extremes and radicals, and we're just talking about sectarian politics. what doesit about sectarian politics. what does it mean for that? and you know, i live in the area, the isle of dogs, where i think it was 93, where the bnp got their first ever council seat. and i think, you know, i don't want, i don't i think it's good that, you know, we have broad churches. i think it's good that , churches. i think it's good that, you know, we have good democracy. but i actually don't think it gives us good democracy. and i don't want us to be more like other european countries. i think our system is good. but reform reform with a small r reform is always needed. i think there are ways of reforming things. you know, actually i would have compulsory voting like australia. i would have also political education. there's a whole lot of things i would have, but i wouldn't. >> can i just give you the biggest danger of compulsory voting? go for it. well, if you force people to go to the polls, you have to give them a box which says none of the above.

and the big risk is none of the above might win. and then you voted for anarchy. >> oh, you spoil the vote, guys. we have to move on. we've got so much to pack in now with the people's channel. and throughout the election campaign, we spoke to voters across the country. let's cross now to one of them. sian astley is a landlord and a gb news viewer. so welcome to the show. what do you make of last night's election result? >> it's a funny one, isn't it? >> it's a funny one, isn't it? >> i think, i remember the election in 1997 and i felt i voted labour then and i felt quite excited about the future. >> it's not how i feel today. and a lot of people i speak to kind of quite apprehensive. >> i wonder if the landlord industry is going to do quite well. i saw that wetherspoons shares went through the roof this morning. there'll be a lot of people trying to drink away the misery, i think. >> i think you're confusing me with a different kind of landlord . landlord. >> you, of course, are a house landlord, but that's another big issue. and that is the numbers of houses that we need to build or don't have at the moment because of record rents going through the roof, because of massive immigration.

>> well , massive immigration. >> well, yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it? i've been a landlord in manchester for over 20 years now and seen a massive change and an increase at the minute. i've got to go and do a viewing this afternoon for example, and i used to, advertise a flat and get maybe 10 to 15, enquiries and it can be 70 to 80 now, which is just, it's just insane. be 70 to 80 now, which is just, it'sjust insane. i don't be 70 to 80 now, which is just, it's just insane. i don't really know how that's going to change. there's a huge amount of people moving into the country and i see that. i see that on the applications because i'm a very hands on landlord. i do all of the viewings. i take all of the enquiries, and i see that on a on a very, very obvious level. and it's been it's changed, i think, since about 2019, but yeah, watching angela rayner coming in as well as the levelling up, housing and communities, minister, that makes me quite nervous . makes me quite nervous. >> as a landlord, i'm afraid, as we have to leave it there and you are right, angela rayner is levelling up and housing

minister. what will that mean for housing in britain? loads to talk about after the break. stick with us. got ann widdecombe in the studio. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's election channel. but now it's time for your weather. that's important with alex biryukov . biryukov. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> hello again. here's your latest gb news weather forecast coming to you from the met office. the relatively cool feel for the time of year continues as we go into this weekend, and there's some further wet weather around as well. currently, there's a waving front across southern parts that's brought some cloud and some rain so far today, and a system is going to make its way northeastwards as we go through this evening and overnight, bringing some heavy, persistent rain across parts of england too. as we look further north, though, across parts of

scotland there's going to be some heavy rain with high totals building up could lead to some localised flooding here. elsewhere, some clear spells but also showery rain and temperatures for most towns and cities staying in double figures. but it could be a bit fresh, a bit cool for some of us, particularly in more rural spots. taking a closer look at what we can expect first thing tomorrow morning. and yes, it's a wet start across some northern parts of scotland, particularly around the inverness area. some high totals likely there could be some significant spray on the roads, some travel disruption as well as a bit of flooding, perhaps slightly drier if we head a bit further south across parts of northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england, a few showers perhaps, but also some bright sunny spells. meanwhile across many parts of england and wales, first thing tomorrow morning it is going to be quite a showery picture and those showers could be quite intense and could merge into some slightly longer spells of rain for a time. as we go into the afternoon though, across england and wales i'm expecting the showery rain to break up a little bit. still, the chance of some downpours perhaps, but across scotland, northern ireland the showers are going to be a little bit more

frequent and some heavy ones are still possible. like i said, that cool field continues and there will be some blustery winds around adding to that cool feel . with temperatures below feel. with temperatures below average for the time of year, more showers to come as we go through the end of the day, but they will gradually ease overnight into sunday, so sunday should start off mostly dry before plenty of showers develop yet again. and they could be heavy, possibly even thundery. and then there's more wet weather to come as we go through early next week. bye bye! >> looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> welcome to gb news. it's 5:00

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country . country. yes. the people have spoken. and for the first time in more than 14 years, we have a labour prime minister >> i invite you to all join this government of service in the mission of national renewal. our work is urgent and we begin it today. >> as the keir starmer was speaking just a couple of hours after rishi sunak had left downing street and the outgoing prime minister had a message for the voters who have kicked him out. >> i have heard your anger, your disappointment and i take responsibility for this loss . responsibility for this loss. and . and. >> and we'll also have a look at

a record breaking night for the liberal democrats, who win a record 71 seats. maybe all that paddle boarding and bungee jumping did the trick. after all, there's only one thing you can say about british politics. it's never dull, is it? sir keir starmer is choosing his new cabinet right now. we'll bring you all the latest breaking news as it happens. that's all. after your latest news headlines with sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much and good evening to you . it's and good evening to you. it's just after 5:00 and sir keir starmer is wasting no time putting his top team together today after becoming the new prime minister, he's appointed angela rayner as deputy prime minister. david lammy will be in charge of foreign affairs, while yvette cooper heads up the home office and john healey becomes defence secretary. earlier, rachel reeves, who's now in charge at the treasury, gave her first speech to staff there the new and first ever female

chancellor in the uk said her central mission is to restore economic growth. >> to deliver on this mission. i want to be the most pro—growth treasury in our country's history. that will mean doing what the treasury does best building growth on a rock of economic stability. but it also means taking on new challenges and new responsibilities to fix the foundations to and rebuild britain well before appointing his new cabinet, sir keir starmer gave his first speech outside downing street earlier and promised to rebuild trust in politics. >> this wound, this lack of trust can only be healed by actions , not words. i know that, actions, not words. i know that, but we can make a start today with the simple acknowledgement that public service is a privilege and that your

government should treat every single person in this country with respect . with respect. >> labour's landslide victory has left the tories with just 121 seats, an extraordinary turnaround from the last election, which saw boris johnson take a historic win. let's take a look at the figures as they stand now. labour scooping up 412 seats. that's far more than the 326 needed to secure a majority the liberal democrats. they also triumphed last night, winning 71 seats, a huge increase from their previous total of 11, leaving the snp with nine seats and reform uk on four. well earlier, the now former prime minister rishi sunak apologised and revealed he'll be stepping down as the leader of the conservatives and said he'd heard voters anger as he spoke outside number 10 for the final time to the country. >> i would like to say first and foremost, i am sorry i have

given this job my all, but you have sent a clear signal that the government of the united kingdom must change, and yours is the only judgement that matters. i have heard your angen matters. i have heard your anger, your disappointment and i take responsibility for this loss to all the conservative candidates and campaigners who work tirelessly, but without success.i work tirelessly, but without success. i am sorry that we could not deliver what your efforts deserved . it pains me to efforts deserved. it pains me to think how many good colleagues who contributed so much to their communities and our country will now no longer sit in the house of commons, and after that short farewell speech, mr sunak took his wife's hand and they departed together down a downing street for the last time, making way for his successor to become britain's fourth prime minister in under two years. >> meanwhile, reform uk leader nigel farage has been heckled

this afternoon . this was the this afternoon. this was the moment that a protester interrupted him as he took to the stage in central london. thank you mate , where are you thank you mate, where are you from ? from? >> where are you from? on well, that makes sense. >> still operating? yes >> still operating? yes >> are you downwind of a couple already ? you've got a bigger already? you've got a bigger lunch than i've had . lunch than i've had. >> mr farage was then forced to repeatedly delay that speech while security staff removed various protesters, but he joked that it was good preparation for his new role in the house of commons. it's after reform secured four seats despite receiving a bigger share of votes than the liberal democrats. and speaking in london earlier, the reform leader said the political system needs a makeover. >> don't show us very interesting things. if we had proportional representation we'd be looking at nearly 100 seats, but equally equally, first past the post inverts the other way, where labour get almost the same number of votes they got. well,

if that less fewer votes they got under corbyn, and yet 200 more seats. it is very much my view that our outdated first past the post electoral system is not fit for purpose, and we will campaign with anyone and everyone to change this electoral system . electoral system. >> and finally, before we hand back to martin in westminster, a quick look at some of the losses last night, the conservative party, eight cabinet ministers and a former prime minister were among the casualties, beating 1997 record in one of the biggest night's upsets . liz biggest night's upsets. liz truss lost her seat in south—west norfolk to labour. a head spinning turnaround from her 49 day stint in downing street, less than two years ago. but there were more shocks to come with defence secretary grant shapps, commons leader penny mordaunt and former cabinet minister jacob rees—mogg all beaten by labour. there were some surprises for labour, too, with jonathan ashworth , who's with jonathan ashworth, who's played a leading role in the party's campaign , losing his

party's campaign, losing his seat to a pro—palestinian independent and green party co—leader carla denyer ousted labour's thangam debbonaire in bristol central. well, a strong showing for the liberal democrats saw them topple several tory ministers, though they failed to clinch jeremy hunfs they failed to clinch jeremy hunt's seat . those those are the hunt's seat. those those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'll be back with you in the next half hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you sam. now where else to start but with our new prime minister and sir keir starmer has only been in the job a few hours, but he's already got to work and got busy. let's cross now to downing street and speak to gb news political editor chris hope. chris, welcome back to the show . you've been going to the show. you've been going since 8:00 last night and you're still soldiering on. tell us immediate action from sir keir

starmer. tell us more about the new cabinet. let's take a closer look . look. >> that's right. and welcome back to number 10 downing street martin. that's right. so 15 cabinet posts confirmed . another cabinet posts confirmed. another seven are waiting to be confirmed. and they're all inside . but in the building inside. but in the building behind me very briefly, the top jobs have gone to rachel reeves. she's the chancellor, yvette cooper and home secretary david lammy. foreign secretary john healey , defence secretary, and healey, defence secretary, and angela rayner, of course, the deputy leader and now the housing secretary. in fact, every job that they had, these individuals we know so far , 15 individuals we know so far, 15 of them had in the shadow cabinet, they've got those jobs in the cabinet and you're already hearing clips on the news from yvette cooper, the new home secretary. and of course, david lammy. we saw just moments ago, john healey walk out here with a member of the armed forces. he's got a massive week. next week he got the nato summit on tuesday. we don't know about other people. lisa nandy, the aid secretary, jo stevens , welsh aid secretary, jo stevens, welsh secretary, shadow welsh

secretary, shadow welsh secretary steve reed , the shadow secretary steve reed, the shadow environment secretary. lucy powell, the leader of the house of commons, and louise hay. we know her. we need louise hague now in transport, so we're getting towards having all set up. it's highly likely we think, that there'll be a cabinet meeting tomorrow, of a new cabinet will be photographs taken, and that will be that will be, i think, sir keir starmer's effort to get this cabinet to work, because earlier, at around just after midday, sir keir starmer made his first speech on the steps of downing street when he made very clear the need for action this day to get this country motoring, get growth happening and trying to lift the lift. the country after what labour say had been 40 years, 14 years of tory failure. here's what sir keir starmer had to say. >> but now our country has voted decisively for change, for national renewal and a return of politics to public service. when the gap between the sacrifices

made by people and the service they receive from politicians grows, this big, it leads to a weariness in the heart of a nation. this lack of trust can only be healed by actions, not words . i only be healed by actions, not words. i know only be healed by actions, not words . i know that , but we can words. i know that, but we can make a start today with the simple acknowledgement that pubuc simple acknowledgement that public service is a privilege and that your government should treat every single person in this country with respect . if this country with respect. if you voted labour yesterday, we will carry the responsibility of your trust as we rebuild our country. but whether you voted labour or not in fact, especially if you did not, i say to you directly, my government

will serve you . politics can be will serve you. politics can be a force for good. we will show that we have changed the labour party returned it to service and thatis party returned it to service and that is how we will govern country. first party second. our work is urgent and we begin it today. thank you very much . today. thank you very much. >> sir keir starmer there injecting some energy behind his premiership. he's in a rush. he's probably well aware about the risk of wasting time after a landslide. as tony blair was accused of in 1997. he clearly wants to get on with governing and get this growth happening. and when the growth happens, then labour can start cutting taxes as they say. >> thank you, chris, for that latest update live from downing

street. thank you sterling work. and now let's get a tory view of last night's election results. and i'm now joined by the conservative mp still the conservative mp still the conservative mp still the conservative mp for romford andrew rosindell. welcome to the show andrew. it was a bloodbath for the party across the nation. shall we start with that first before we talk about your seat, what went wrong? >> i think the conservative party has lost its way in government for too long. we have been diverted into things that aren't really terribly conservative, and people have been incredibly disappointed. there are things that we should have done but didn't do. we didn't use the 80 seat majority that boris won five years ago. we should have done radical things to sort the problems of this country out, but we turned up into government and finished up into government and finished up being more administrators than we are actually leading a political agenda. >> and that means that so many people, certainly in my constituency, were very

disappointed . they felt that disappointed. they felt that we'd let them down. >> we hadn't we hadn't done what we said. >> we would do what they expected us to do, and they voted reform. so there is no love for labour, 35% of the vote for a government is very low. the truth is that labour have a lot to prove in office, but we need to bring both sides of the right together. conservative reform need to start coalescing to provide strong opposition to the new labour government. >> okay, let's talk about that, shall we? because we have a schism straight away, because looking at the people who survived and of course , eyes survived and of course, eyes then fall to who might be the next conservative leader from the right of the party. suella braverman survived. robert jenrick survived , both of them. jenrick survived, both of them. share your sentiment, andrew rosindell they they would love to do a foxtrot with nigel farage. however, others on the list wouldn't. kemi badenoch been very, very dismissive. in fact very down. speaking towards nigel farage, priti patel also has come out as something of an

anti faragist. james cleverly survived. tom tugendhat not known for their passion towards mr farage. how will this coalition work if a lot of the conservative mps left can't seem to stand the size of nigel farage? >> so the reality is we're not talking about nigel farage here. nigel is a inspiring leader and he's amazing things that he's achieved, but he's one person. what i'm concerned about is bringing all the people in this country together who have right of centre views. if you have two conservative parties , one called conservative parties, one called reform, one called conservative, the winner will always be the labour party and that is what we want to avoid next time. i want this to be a one term labour government. i don't want them to be in power for the next 1520 years. so somehow we have to start being realistic about what we need to do as a party and go with the grain of what the british people want. my constituents. so many of them wouldn't vote for me, not because i was a bad mp or they

were against me particularly. it was all about the way the government had failed to achieve the things that they expected it to achieve. and so they went reform we have to bring the voters who have right of centre views together, and then we can defeat the labour party in five years time, if we continue to be divided, keir starmer or whoever replaces him , it might be angela replaces him, it might be angela rayner by then, who knows? but whoever is leader of the labour party will have a shoo in a divided right means the left will govern in perpetuity, so we need to bring everyone together and have a strong opposition to ensure that the labour government just elected, only gets one term of office. >> but how does that happen? how does how does how does the reform vote and the conservative vote come together without a coalition, without some sort of merger , without a swapping of merger, without a swapping of personnel, without a clear out? and what about the fact that even after last night's results, we still have a divided conservative party we still have the liberal wet side of the party? they were losing their

seats, the liberal democrats, and we still have a the rump of what was an actual conservative party. you're saying that should be the future. but the trouble is , you're still a divided is, you're still a divided party. you're still two parties within one. yeah yeah. >> well, do you know something, martin? the one thing i'm in politics to do is put country first. so one thing i agree with keir starmer on country first, party second. and the reality is you see these guys over here, these euro fanatics , they want these euro fanatics, they want to get us back into the european union. and keir starmer is their route to getting back into the eu, which i think will be a catastrophe for our country. so we are going to give the labour party two terms, three terms, four terms by having a divided right. that isn't the solution. everyone needs to think about the best interests of our country. we need a right of centre government next time in five years and one way or the other, we need to bring all people together with a similar viewpoint who will rescue the country from years of socialism, which is what we're going to face if we keep squabbling

amongst ourselves within the conservative party, or be rude to nigel and start talking about reform as if their sort of people that shouldn't be, we couldn't work with them. they're not the kind of people we can actually work with. i can tell you most people voted reform in my constituency were conservatives. they were normal voters who vote for me. but this time they couldn't . we need to time they couldn't. we need to bnng time they couldn't. we need to bring them together. otherwise you're handing britain over to labour for many years to come. and that's the one thing i don't want to see. >> over 9000 people voted reform in romford. you got 15,000. but the labour party got nearly 14,000. so this is not quite this is not just a case of the right vote being split up. the people in romford, the i know romford, i know romford marketplace very well. no nonsense. straight down the line working class community. a lot of them felt sufficiently frustrated with the conservative party to go red. so this isn't just a case of the tory party being divided. it's about people don't understand what the conservative party offers

anymore because you still have this massive schism, whether it be brexit, where it was net zero, where it was open borders, where it was high taxes, a lot of people feel you're the same as the labour party. is there any is there any wonder that people are voting labour in romford ? romford? >> yeah. no, i think you're right. i think the conservative party has been divided on certain issues and we need to get back to core conservative principles again. so net zero is blindingly obvious that it's unachievable in the short term, andifs unachievable in the short term, and it's going to make people cold and poor. it's going to give china the competitive advantage . we've done our bit. advantage. we've done our bit. we need to put that on the side and focus on energy security. so that's the first thing. second thing brexit. we have to use the opportunity of being outside the european union to be global traders again, deregulation, making up our own laws that are best suit the united kingdom. we didn't do that as much as we should have done in government, but we're not that much different than what most people in the reform party stand for. you know, we're splitting hairs on some of these things. yes,

there are some in my party who seem to want to continue with this more centrist way of doing things. well, that's not what the that's not where the british people are, actually. it's not where our voters are. so yes, there's going to be some people that won't be happy, but we do have to move to a more mainstream right agenda if we try and keep veering towards the centre. i'm afraid all we're going to do is continue to have a division on the right. going to do is continue to have a division on the right . and a division on the right. and that's exactly what keir starmer wants. and he can continue to be prime minister. i want him out next time i want it to be a one term labour government. so we need to bring everyone together who believes in this country on a clear agenda to put our country first. if we do that, we've got a chance of winning. if we keep fighting amongst ourselves, we're simply letting the socialists govern britain for years to come . for years to come. >> okay, there's only one question that follows out. then who should be the leader? >> well, i don't know at the moment. there'll be plenty of time to find out. come on. who

should be the. >> you made a. you made andrew rosindell. you made a very, very compelling pitch there for a right. a right of centre right wing conservative party. i know the names on this list. you know the names on this list. you know the names on list. come on, mate, who should be the leader of that party? >> do you know what i absolutely want to hear what they're going to do. first, i want to hear what their plan is, because far too often we elect leaders that try and be all things to all men and say one thing to one, one thing to another. and when they are in charge, we don't have clear, strong leadership. i'm afraid that's what's been happening in recent years. i was a big supporter of boris, but even boris made huge mistakes, you know, net zero. we all know that. that can't continue with that. that can't continue with that policy. so i'm not going to commit to anyone at this stage. i want to actually hear what they're going to do. and i also want to hear their views on party organisation , because we party organisation, because we need to rebuild the party at grassroots level. we can't be a top down party. so for me, that's very important that we have a leader that understands

how the conservative party works and is prepared to allow the to party be andrew local level. >> andrew, if you won't say it, let's revert to the medium of sign language. i'll say the i'll say the names you nod suella braverman. there's no nod. priti patel magnificent. >> and i would certainly consider suella. she's also fantastic. i certainly consider her robert jenrick. anyone else you'd like to put to me? robert jenrick great guy. he's come out with some fantastic things on immigration. yeah, kemi badenoch certainly consider , i think the certainly consider, i think the first three are my favourites now. >> i think we got there in the end. great. well. well done. you hung on to your seat now that'll do for now. i think we've got a flavour of where you think the party should be going. i think many people watching this will no doubt agree with you. you saw off the labour party, you saw off the labour party, you saw off reform. you made it through the night. well done. andrew rosindell, conservative mp still for romford. thanks for joining me on the show now, rachel reevesis me on the show now, rachel reeves is the uk's first female chancellor of the exchequer , and chancellor of the exchequer, and one of the big questions facing the new labour government is this can she turn this broken

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welcome back. it's 5:25. i'm martin daubney on gb news with ann widdecombe. now the polls closed less than 20 hours ago, but already the post—mortem into the conservatives worst ever election result has begun in earnest. senior tories are just penny mordaunt and grant shapps said, where they thought the party has gone wrong after they lost their seats. and today the man who called the election out of the blue, rishi sunak. well, he apologised. >> i have heard your anger, your disappointment and i take responsibility for this loss to all the conservative candidates and campaigners who work tirelessly, but without success. i am sorry that we could not deliver what your efforts deserved . it pains me to think deserved. it pains me to think how many good colleagues who

contributed so much to their communities and our country will now no longer sit in the house of commons. i thank them for their hard work and their service. >> well, those were the final words of the former prime minister, rishi sunak. and i'm now joined in the studio of course, by, by ann widdecombe and it started on those steps in the thunderous rain . it ended the thunderous rain. it ended there. do you believe that, rishi sunak bowed out with dignity? >> yes, i think he did go with dignity. but i think what one should always remember is that he was instrumental in unseating a prime minister. he who had not been elected by the party in the country but had been elected by the parliamentary party, and therefore there was always going to be a tension. and i think that tension was not resolved and has spilled over into the election, with a lot of people simply resenting the fact that,

you know, he'd staged a coup against their choice. >> do you think a lot of conservatives never really forgave rishi sunak for what they perceived to be stabbing bonsin they perceived to be stabbing boris in the back? >> yes. >> yes. >> i mean, there was boris and then, you know, liz truss and whatever you may think of those two, the fact is that the first had been elected by the general public, the second was the party's anointed. you know, rishi sunak was simply the parliamentary parties anointed. okay >> well, and of course, you're now associated with reform uk and earlier today, reform leader nigel farage was heckled by a number of protesters at a reform event where he was supposed to be celebrating and becoming an mp. take a look. >> where are you from? where are you from ? oh, well, that makes sense. >> you always say, well, for any yes, you are a racist. >> are you down with the migrants? >> you. you want a bigger lunch than i've had? glory, glory . than i've had? glory, glory. glory. glory. glory glory , glory . glory. glory. glory glory, glory.

bonng glory. glory. glory glory, glory. boring my darling. have a lovely day. lots of . love. on anymore. day. lots of. love. on anymore. >> anymore for anymore . >> anymore for anymore. actually. yes, yes . actually. yes, yes. >> i mean, ann widdecombe is still with me . it's kind of still with me. it's kind of funny the way nigel handles this nigel farage just. he kind of. he judo throws the energy back. but these are the people who call themselves the tolerant liberal left. they invaded this event. they caused a howard. will any of this take any wind out of the sails of the reform party, or actually, will this just add momentum? >> no, it just adds momentum. i mean, you've put your finger on the problem. people always preaching tolerance and kindness. you know , and all this kindness. you know, and all this sort of thing. and yet they are the most disruptive and the least willing to listen. and you know, if you want an offence

against free speech, look for a liberal now for reform . liberal now for reform. >> mps could be fired. there's a recount currently underway. i believe are now in the house of commons. the brexit party, when it stood when you and i stood together on that, the underline was change politics for good. do you think now that that that beachhead is there, that toehold, will the reform party actually now be able to start doing that, or are they simply too small? >> no, we're not too small. don't forget that we got a higher share of the vote than the liberal democrats. you know, don't forget that we could fill that. birmingham nec centre for our rally. you know, and the conservatives struggle to get two men in a dog. so no, we are not small and our ambitions are very big. >> and what does that look like? what kind of trouble do you think is going to be caused? lee anderson said we can expect fireworks from us next week in westminster. we're going to kick some ass, he said. but we're making noise be enough. what?

what will action. >> it depends what you're saying. when you're making the noise and if what we're saying is what we were saying during the general election, which quite clearly pleased a lot of people, then i think we'll be listened to and what kind of areas. >> i mean, we've just seen a yvette cooper as the as the new home secretary. here's a home secretary who in 2015 held up a sign saying refugees welcome. immigration is something you're going to be beating. >> they haven't got a policy on immigration. labour just have immigration. labourjust have not got a policy on immigration. and when the boats come in, as they will do day after day, what are they going to do about it ? are they going to do about it? answer. you know, international hot air talking with other people, getting nothing done. >> do you think if we expect to see by elections, we can expect to see reform standing again and keep pushing on? >> oh, reform will keep pushing on. yeah, yeah. >> and are you confident that something concrete is going to come about as nigel farage talks about this being a ten year project with this, the beginning, this is the beginning. >> it is a long term project, but i believe that at the next general election, which is five

years away, you know, we could even become the government. >> wow. strong words ann widdecombe. and you've had a long night. you've been beavering away as an analyst throughout this excellent work. as ever, it's a delight to see you in a safe trip back home. thank you very much for joining us and welcome . now still lots us and welcome. now still lots more to come between now and 6:00. we'll be speaking with a former liberal democrat minister about what next for the party after what has to be said was a very successful night for ed davis team. but first, it's your latest news headlines with sam francis. >> very good afternoon to you. it's just after a 430 i'm sam francis and in a moment we'll bnng francis and in a moment we'll bring you an election recap. but i just want to start with a piece of breaking news coming into us in the last few moments that reform uk have now won a fifth seat in the general election, that's after a recount in the basildon south and east thurrock constituency, with james murdoch winning that seat

with a majority of just over 98 votes. that's taking over from the labour candidate, jack ferguson. so we're just hearing that reform uk have now increased their number of seats from four to now five after a recount in the basildon south and east thurrock constituency. we'll bring you much more on that. i'm sure , throughout the that. i'm sure, throughout the rest of this evening. well, in other news, sir keir starmer is wasting no time appointing his new cabinet after becoming prime minister. rachel reeves becomes the first ever female chancellor and has already told staff at the treasury that her central mission is to restore economic growth. wes streeting is the new health secretary. bridget phillipson is in charge of education and ed miliband takes over on net zero issues. we're also expecting in the next half hour or so for the us president, joe biden, to call sir keir starmer and congratulate him on his election win. well, earlier, the now former prime minister rishi sunak has announced that he would quit as the leader of

the conservatives, apologising to the british people and to his party. speculation is now growing about who will replace him, with names including kemi badenoch, priti patel and james cleverly among those possibly to take that role well. labour's landslide has left the conservatives with just 121 seats in a dramatic turnaround from the last election , which from the last election, which had seen boris johnson take a historic win . the tories last historic win. the tories last night lost two thirds of their mps, with former prime minister liz truss among those to be booted out . this time. labour booted out. this time. labour scooped up 412 seats, far more than 326. they needed to secure a majority, though it wasn't all good for labour. four candidates lost to independents, with pro—palestinian campaigns and reform uk leader nigel farage is promising that his party's now five seats are only the beginning and he says we'll stun everyone. and the lib dems enjoyed a great night too , enjoyed a great night too, saying their 71 mps are spread from land's end to john

o'groats, while the snp's leader has admitted they aren't winning. the argument over independence after losing nearly 40 seats. meanwhile, reform uk leader nigel farage has this afternoon been heckled as he took to the stage in central london. mr farage was forced to repeatedly delay his speech while security staff removed the protesters from the venue. but he joked that it was good preparation for his new role in the house of commons. it's after reform secured now five seats, as we've been mentioning in the last few minutes that news coming to us, despite receiving a bigger share of votes than the liberal democrats and speaking in london earlier, the reform leader said that the political system needs a makeover. well, those are your latest gb news for now, i'm sam francis and i'll be back with

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martin daubney on gb news now. reminder of the big news that broke just a few minutes ago. and reform uk have now won a fifth seat in the general election after a recount in the basildon south and east thurrock constituency. james mc murdoch won the seat with a majority of just 98 votes from labour candidate jack ferguson, and the other four reform mps, of course, are nigel farage, richard tice lee anderson and rupert lowe. lee anderson called them if they did get this fifth one, the famous five mary is more of the infamous five reform taking a fifth seat. that recount just threw . now moving recount just threw. now moving on to ed davey has rewritten the rules when it comes to election campaigning over the last few weeks, and it looks like it worked an absolute treat . and worked an absolute treat. and that was the ticker tape

reception that sir ed davey got at lib dem hq in central london earlier this morning. his party of course, won 71 seats and a key part of their manifesto was a £9 billion boost to health and social care . social care. >> every one of our record number of liberal democrat mps is going to go to parliament to campaign for that emergency budget for health and care, they're going to stand up for their local health service, their local health service, their local health service, their local care service that you rely on. they're going to stand up for the policies, whether it's getting more gp's, more nhs dentists, free personal care that will fix the system . care that will fix the system. >> every liberal democrat mp will be a voice for carers and we are going to make sure that your voice is heard like never before as ed davey and not a bungee hook in sight. >> now, earlier this year, nigel farage warned of a rise in sectarian politics in great

britain and we saw plenty of evidence of that last night. several labour mps, including frontbencher jonathan ashworth, were beaten by pro gaza candidates and jess phillips won by less than 700 votes. but her victory speech was interrupted by pro—palestine protesters. check this out is met with such reticence anyway , this . reticence anyway, this. >> this election has been . can >> this election has been. can you throw them out ? you throw them out? >> well, we have a few speeches. >> well, we have a few speeches. >> this election has been the worst election i have ever stood in today, a brilliant community activist who puts on events for every single part of our community, came out to campaign

with me, and people filmed her on the streets and then slashed her tyres . a young woman, a her tyres. a young woman, a young woman on her own, delivering leaflets , was filmed delivering leaflets, was filmed and screamed at by a much older man in the street . today and screamed at by a much older man in the street. today i was to be joined by the family of jo cox, who wanted to come out and campaign with me, and there is absolutely no way i could have allowed for them to see what was aggressive and violence in our democracy . democracy. >> well, a grim taste of the new sectarian politics we might see more of in britain, but let's get more now on a great night for the liberal democrats. and

i'm delighted to say i'm joined by former lib dem minister norman baker. norman, welcome to the show . it's got to be said, the show. it's got to be said, a fantastic night for liberal democrats. you and i said a few weeks ago, i thought that the liberal democrats were fighting a very canny campaign. it felt like a series of joined up by elections, targeted issues, targeted seats. you knew where your vote was with a good bit of humour and commentary on top. tell us more. great night for you, norm. >> well that's right, the best lib dem result or liberal result since 1923. so for over 100 years and we picked up seats actually i think we picked up seats. >> we weren't even trying to win, >> that was how successful it was. and certainly i'm delighted most of all that my old seat of lewes is now back in the lib dem hands with a 12,500 majority. and of course, we've just, we've got rid of, i'll put it unkindly, we've decapitated, if you like , several cabinet you like, several cabinet ministers like alex chalk. and, and gillian keegan in chichester, we didn't really think were going to win

chichester. so it's been a tremendous night. and you're right , what tremendous night. and you're right, what ed tremendous night. and you're right , what ed davey tried to do right, what ed davey tried to do was, first of all, grab attention through his various stunts, which the media then duly covered. and having got the media there, they were prepared to listen to our policies on on on carers , on the nhs and so on, on carers, on the nhs and so on, on carers, on the nhs and so on, on sewage and, that was a very successful, campaign. and also we had keir starmer looking a little bit bored and rishi sunak being gaffe prone. so ed davey came across, i think, rather better than those two in the clips, and we were rewarded accordingly. but, you know, the first past the post system is not our form of government. we don't think that's how voting should take place, but we have to use it the way it is and the reality is that we've targeted ruthlessly. we've got seats where we got 25,000 votes on the seats, we got 1000 votes. we've had to make it work for us, but it's not the right system. there's no doubt mps from reform will will complain bitterly about. >> that's a great point, norman. i want to ask you about that. do you think the reform party could learn from the liberal democrats because you're both battling

against the same first past the post barriers, in fact, the reform party got more votes than the liberal democrats 4 million votes versus 3.5 million votes. yet the lib dems got 71 seats. reform actually now five. was it because you guys just targeted areas rather than putting out the blunderbuss? you had your sniper rifle out. you knew exactly where to go and that's why you did. well, yes , that's why you did. well, yes, that's exactly right. >> and, it's welcome to have some support from the, from somewhere not close to us, if you like, on the political spectrum for proportional representation or a fairer voting system. but, you know, the lib dem vote roughly corresponds, ironically, roughly corresponds, ironically, roughly corresponds . but corresponds, ironically, roughly corresponds. but in pr corresponds, ironically, roughly corresponds . but in pr towns, corresponds. but in pr towns, because we got 12% of the vote and we got roughly 12% of the seats, so we can't complain, the great outlier here is not the lib dems, but labour, because labour secured a huge majority of hundreds of seats on a third of hundreds of seats on a third of the vote. i mean, the vote for keir starmer was about the same vote as jeremy corbyn in 2019, which was regarded as a

disaster for labour. the number of votes was roughly the same, and yet he ended up with hundreds of seats more. >> and that's a curious point, norman. do you think that people are talking a lot about this is are talking a lot about this is a wide majority, but a but a thin majority, one with not a lot of substance? do you think that unless the keir starmer starts delivering sharpish, then that big majority could actually start to kind of vanish away in terms of support from the public? >> well , i got the public? >> well, i got the impression that the electorate was fed up with the tories to the back teeth, but not particularly keen on anyone else or not less less keen on keir starmer. actually ed davey, so he has got a difficulty. i wish him well and i think he's a decent man. as rishi sunak himself said. but the reality is that , he's got the reality is that, he's got a big parliamentary party that will require a great deal of discipline, it'd be very tempting to just ram things through parliament knowing the votes will go through. i would recommend he doesn't do that. it'll also be the result of a big party. we'll have a rebellions on the backbenches

from people who know the labour party going to win the votes, and they can express their own confidence. go back to even francis pym, remember him with mrs. thatcher's day back in the 19805, mrs. thatcher's day back in the 1980s, francis pym said you know, big majorities are not good for the government. margaret thatcher knocked him down, but he was absolutely right on that. and, you know, i've seen the same thing in a smaller way. when i was running a council, having a majority of six on the council is a lot better than having a majority of 20, okay. >> norman baker, we have to leave it there. well you've earned yourself a nice celebratory drink, but whatever you do, mate, don't go anywhere near a paddle board. norman baken near a paddle board. norman baker, always a delight to have you on the show. now, let's bnng you on the show. now, let's bring you some more breaking news. now on lisa nandy has been promoted to culture secretary. and that's after thangam debbonaire, who of course had been the shadow culture secretary. well, she lost her seat in bristol to the green party. nandy had been the shadow international development minister prior to today's promotion, now about to speak to a top economist to find out if he thinks the new chancellor, rachel reeves, can turn our broken economy

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welcome back. it's 10 to 6. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. as expected , rachel gb news now. as expected, rachel reeves has been appointed the new chancellor of the exchequer. the first female in that role of course. but what will she have to play with? is it true that there really is no money left? or join me now to discuss this is the director and co—founder at regionally, justin urquhart stewart , resplendent as ever in stewart, resplendent as ever in your red braces. >> hope not supporting not politically affiliated here i of course not. >> of course i just your favourite colour. so look sir keir starmer is selling this election on a ticket of change. how do you change when the biscuit tin is empty? old mother hubbard will go to the cupboard with £2.7 trillion in debt. >> yeah, no doubt she will find the usual note left there by the

last. >> by one a member of the treasury team saying, sorry, the money's run out and it was supposed to think that's very funny. every single member of the treasury team past 50 years has done that, and it's not very funny at all. >> yes, you're right, there is. >> yes, you're right, there is. >> there is nothing because actually the country is heavily in debt. so if you all go that route, what's the alternative? >> what they have to do is to prove not just domestically but internationally, get confidence that actually these people are not mad, that their government can run a stable ship. they're not going to go rush out and start borrowing because they can't do is do. so anyway. what they can do, though, is create financial incentives, both in terms of business investment, in terms of business investment, in terms of business investment, in terms of personal investment, things like pensions , but also things like pensions, but also in terms of overseas investment. >> that doesn't cost the government very much because they have to. >> it's merely an incentive. so less money coming in, but hopefully more later . so the hopefully more later. so the investment side, it starts creating more confidence . it's creating more confidence. it's a long, slow process. >> what they mustn't do is knee jerk into anything because the city and everyone else will look at them very cynically at the moment, saying, your politicians, we never really believe what you're saying, what

you are coming up with. >> tell us over the next few months that actually it's going to be at least stable. do that and you'll start seeing nothing very exciting growth because that's not going to be happening. you can do is create domestic confidence so that you and i and anybody else said it comes to interest rates and those things. >> so they start easing out a bit. inflation we have no control over, despite what the previous chancellor used to tell us, and but hopefully that does start easing and it slowly creates a bit more consumer confidence. >> consumers buy more, they go out and spend more . out and spend more. >> also, they can directly help in terms of housing, in terms of things like stamp duty to encourage more money. their stamp duty income is tiny in comparison. what you want to do is get someone to move house, because what happens when you move house? the kitchen goes the bathroom goes, and they spend money doing so that's how you get money going through the system faster. what you're describing, though, justin, sounds quite conservative. >> this is the low tax business rates cutting stamp duty. this is what the conservatives were proposing. has the labour party gotten its dna to go down that route? everybody's fearing that

this hike up taxes. >> yeah . well the trouble is, if >> yeah. well the trouble is, if they start hiking up taxes, it's very simple. >> our government debt is going to cost more. >> you only have to go back before the this crisis that we've had. >> and you saw that government debt on average was around about 48 to 50 billion a year, which is about the same amount we paid on our defence budget. now, the defence budget has gone up quite a lot. meanwhile our actual interest rate costs has gone up to 100 billion. so it's one of the highest levels of expenditure that we've got. now. some of it's down to interest rates having gone up. some dear chancellor managed to include in our debt, interest in inflation proof debt, i'm sorry, inflation led debt, which is very cheap . led debt, which is very cheap. marvellous. until inflation started taking off. thank you, gordon brown, for that one, so if they can actually make sure there's confidence so that the rates don't go up anymore, they'll be in a position where again, slowly but surely you'll see confidence coming back in not just the retail market but the investment market. >> okay. just an excellent to have your opinion as ever. well, there's a heck of a job facing there's a heck of a job facing the new chancellor, that's for sure . what a job. she's got £2.7

sure. what a job. she's got £2.7 trillion in debt and no real answers staring her in the face. next up is dewbs& co. i'm martin daubney. i've been on gb news your election channel now i'm back actually on breakfast tomorrow. brighton from six. if you're up and about, i'll see you're up and about, i'll see you then. but before that, here's your weather with alex barker. thank you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar . solar. >> sponsors of weather on gb. news >> hello again. here's your latest gb news weather forecast coming to you from the met office. the relatively cool feel for the time of year continues as we go into this weekend, and there's some further wet weather around as well. currently there's a waving front across southern parts that's brought some cloud and some rain so far today, and a system is going to make its way northeastwards as we go through this evening and overnight, bringing some heavy, persistent rain across parts of england too. as we look further

north, though, across parts of scotland there's going to be some heavy rain with high totals building up could lead to some localised flooding here. elsewhere, some clear spells but also showery rain and temperatures for most towns and cities staying in double figures. but it could be a bit fresh, a bit cool for some of us, particularly in more rural spots. taking a closer look at what we can expect first thing tomorrow morning and yes, it's a wet start across some northern parts of scotland, particularly around the inverness area, some high totals likely there could be some significant spray on the roads, some travel disruption as well as a bit of flooding, perhaps slightly drier if we head a bit further south across parts of northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england, a few showers perhaps, but also some bright sunny spells. meanwhile, across many parts of england and wales, first thing tomorrow morning it is going to be quite a showery picture and those showers could be quite intense and could merge into some slightly longer spells of rain for a time as we go into the afternoon, though, across england and wales i'm expecting the showery rain to break up a little bit. still the chance of some downpours perhaps, but

across scotland, northern ireland the showers are going to be a little bit more frequent and some heavy ones are still possible. like i said, that cool field continues and there will be some blustery winds around, adding to that cool feel. with temperatures below average for the time of year. more showers to come as we go through the end of the day, but they will gradually ease overnight into sunday, so sunday should start off mostly dry before plenty of showers develop yet again. and they could be heavy, possibly even thundery. and then there's more wet to weather come as we go through early next week. bye bye . bye. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >>

would like to say, first and foremost, i am sorry the tories got absolutely battered, didn't they? >> and let me ask you this, a labour landslide, which all of us pretty much were expecting, but they got it with just 30 odd percent of the vote. is our system broken, do you think? and also let me ask you then, about that tory party. what does the future look like for them? who do you think should be their next leader and what is their what's their plan now? what do you think it should be? also reform then it's got its five a side team now , what should the side team now, what should the future of that party be and how was their outcome for you? do you think they should have had more or not? your thoughts? on. all of that and more. but first the 6:00 news. >> michelle, thank you very much. and good evening to you.

it's just after 6:00. and