for keir for the new work starts for keir for the new prime minister, sir keir starmer takes the keys to number 10, although there aren't any keys by the way. tell me more about that later. in a landslide victory as the new leader appoints his a government with the nhs, immigration and housing top of that agenda. we'll bring you the latest on that then. don't reform boris johnson . yes, don't reform boris johnson. yes, he's still around. blames the pied piper, nigel farage for role in destruction of the tories as he warns the tories to avoid merging with reform as he offers advice on how to fix the party. is he right, offers advice on how to fix the party. is he right , though, and party. is he right, though, and away from the election? it's coming home. i'm not singing. i don't tell you that much . don't tell you that much. england must improve if they are to win the first european championship and things are starting to get serious in the quarterfinals. and the question that we want to know is, is it coming . that we want to know is, is it coming. home? but this show is nothing without you. and your views, especially this weekend.

ihope views, especially this weekend. i hope you're having a fantastic one. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing. the chances of england by visiting gbnews.com forward slash and your say and join the conversation or message me on our socials. we're @gbnews. but first it's those news headlines with the very, very gorgeous ray addison. >> good afternoon. 12:01. our top stories this hour. sir keir starmer has opened his first cabinet meeting by telling ministers we have a huge amount of work to do. the new prime minister was applauded by his colleagues as they began the business of governing the country. labour is expected to focus on its manifesto pledges, including delivering economic stability and cutting nhs waiting times . sir keir will waiting times. sir keir will also need to prepare for a nato summit next week in washington dc, where discussions will include support for ukraine. well, french migrants are reportedly vowing to cross the

channel at the first chance they get for election victory. according to the telegraph, most migrants in a camp near dunkirk said they were, quote , overjoyed said they were, quote, overjoyed when they were told that rishi sunak was no longer the prime minister. they also said they would risk crossing the channel in small boats as soon as the weather allowed them to. sir keir starmer has previously promised to scrap the rwanda deportation flights on day one if labour reached power. former home secretary suella braverman says the deterrent is now gone . says the deterrent is now gone. >> hundreds of excellent tory mps have, been kicked out of office. we've now we're now seeing keir starmer install his government, scrap the rwanda plan, for example. years of hard work, acts of parliament, millions of pounds have been spent on a scheme which, had it been delivered properly, would have worked. but, you know, there are big problems on the horizon, which will be, i'm afraid , caused by keir starmer. afraid, caused by keir starmer. it's up to the conservative party to see how we respond to

that. >> okay, let's go straight now, live to downing street, where our political editor, christopher hope, is with . us. christopher hope, is with. us. >> hello. yeah, i'm here in downing street. the cabinet meeting is just breaking up. ed miliband just left. and on the way in, he had some words to say to gb news viewers about his plans for gb energy. let's see what he had to say. okay. and then that was what he had to say then. and then we had louise hague.she then. and then we had louise hague. she came and spoke to us also about her plans for reforming the national rail service . i asked her whether she service. i asked her whether she felt that, how soon you could , felt that, how soon you could, privatise the national rail service. and she said as soon as possible. so we are here in downing street. it's pouring with rain , never stops raining, with rain, never stops raining, it seems, in downing street. and the cabinet is just breaking up here. sir keir starmer's first cabinet. they've been meeting since 11:11 am. there should be some, some footage circulating from that meeting shortly, but the meeting is breaking up as i

speak. we're expecting a press conference from sir keir starmer around 1:00 in 10 downing street, when we should probably hear more about the day one plans for this government, notably axing the rwanda plan, the plan to deal with the illegal migrant problem, that that will save probably £100 million. it would have been spentin million. it would have been spent in 2025, 2026 if the tories had held power in yesterday's election. looking over my shoulder here, here's shabana mahmood , the justice shabana mahmood, the justice secretary. bridget phillipson, the education secretary morning, both. how was your how was your meeting, bridget phillipson. how was the press conference? that's bridget phillipson shabana , bridget phillipson shabana, shabana mahmood, the justice secretary and the education secretary, shabana mahmood will have some questions to answer about remarks made by some remarks made by by james timpson, who's her new prisons prisons minister, lord timpson. now, of course, he said that. he said in his opinion, only a third of prisoners should be in jail . the third of prisoners should be in jail. the rest third of prisoners should be in jail . the rest shouldn't be third of prisoners should be in jail. the rest shouldn't be in prison. so i think that that

will be a political issue. i think, for her to address at some point over this weekend , some point over this weekend, let's look at my shoulder. no one else has yet emerging. so we are expecting the cabinet to leave this first meeting. of course, the reason why sir keir starmer is having it today is because they'll be sworn into the privy council tomorrow by the privy council tomorrow by the by the king and at that point there can be receive state secrets and, and privileged briefings that we won't get in as members of the press. and then tuesday we'll see the prime minister leave for the nato summit, a key meeting meeting for him. he'll meet world leaders and discuss defence policy and the and the uk's commitment to maybe spending 2.5% of gdp on defence. that, of course, is an idea, a commitment made by the tory party when they were in government. but this government has not made that commitment yet. they want to get there at some point. so that will be the big issue for next week. mps will be sworn in next week. mps will be sworn in next week as mps after the speaker, sir lindsay hoyle, is elected by mps on monday or tuesday , and mps on monday or tuesday, and the following week we have the king's speech when the plans for government in the state opening of parliament is set out and the

first chance we'll get to see sir keir starmer at prime minister's questions pmqs will be on the 24th of july. the following wednesday. let's look at my shoulder. no one emerging just yet, but i will. but yeah , just yet, but i will. but yeah, so it's a busy time here in downing street . downing street. >> hello mr hope, it's dawn neesom here, firstly crystal dawn. hello. how are you doing? you must be absolutely exhausted. as i believe the king asked our new prime minister >> yes, well, yes. >> it's a long 21 hours non—stop, lived off bananas and cups of tea in the in the in the small hours of yesterday and then coffee when i woke up. but. yeah it's all part of bringing bringing the gb news euros the best political coverage? possibly. yeah, but it's tiring. but no more tiring than for the for the new government. they they are having no break. i mean, they've been campaigning round the clock. these labour, candidates and the team around them, and unlike the tory party who have got their feet up this

weekend, licking their wounds, i should say , because of course should say, because of course they lost power. this government is straight into it. and i think that pace of government is never really forgotten, it's quite interesting seeing all the cabinet arrive earlier with their new red folders looking like they're the new boys, the new boys and girls at school. looking over my shoulder. morning, sir. what are your plans for attorney general ? plans for attorney general? >> i was the first cabinet that is the new attorney general who has replaced emily thornberry, who, surprisingly, was not given that role in the shadow cabinet. >> we don't know why yet, because, of course, that was one of the controversial moments of the of the, the, the new cabinet being appointed was why wasn't emily thornberry given that job? we still don't know yet. and that might be the question we can ask sir keir starmer at the press conference in an hour's time in 10 downing street. that would be very interesting. as i was saying. i mean, they yeah, that's right. dawn. and there was a feeling of, of, of new boys and girls at school for 14 years. these mps candidates, as

they were, have been looking at this door of 10 downing street wondering what it's like to go through it and have people like me shout annoying questions at them. well, now they're feeling it and they're quite, quite enjoying it. jonathan reynolds , enjoying it. jonathan reynolds, the business secretary, looked quite jolly and grinning away and dawdled on his way in. ed miliband had a few words to say to gb news, earlier. here's ian murray, the scottish secretary. ian murray. how safe is the union and the labour party? very safe there. that was ian murray, who's the scottish secretary. how safe is the union? i said under labour, he said very, not not least because the snp had been lost, lost loads of mps in the general election on thursday. but there's a feeling here and here we have some more. here's steve, steve reid, who's the environment environment secretary. how was the first cabinet meeting? steve reid , how cabinet meeting? steve reid, how was the first cabinet and baroness smith, angela smith, who's the labour leader of the house of lords, both leaving there, under a shared umbrella, a much smaller than my gb news

umbrella. i should say. >> chris, they all look very perky. it has to be said. i know that it's the first day at school and it must be very, very exciting for them, but they do all look very perky. >> well, i think they're quite excited. i think i do liken it, i'm afraid to be and i don't want to be sort of childish about it. but the first day at school, everything is new. everything is fresh. something you might have been looking forward to for a while. they've got their folders, we saw they're looking at their folders and on their as the cipher of the king. this is the job which many of them have wanted for. so long and looked so far away from them. when jeremy corbyn was leader and the party looked almost unelectable as a government. well that's all changed under keir starmer, for better, for worse, we have a labour government and i think that's what that's what the country wants. 170 majority, can't be argued at. so keir starmer said just behind me on that podium didn't he. how he wants to govern for the whole country and particularly for those who didn't vote labour. so how they will wield that power, we'll wait and see. i'm just

leaving now. is wes streeting the health secretary. wes streeting how was your how was your meeting? >> very good. we're getting to work straight away . work straight away. >> jonathan reynolds , our >> jonathan reynolds, our business secretary, saying superb. and we heard there from wes streeting, of course, the health secretary saying we're going to work straight away. he, of course said overnight that the nhs is now broken, isn't fit for purpose and reminding very much of john reid , the new home much of john reid, the new home secretary back in the day in about the mid—noughties, mid 2000, he came into the home office and said it wasn't fit for purpose. that's the first time i've heard similar language from a government minister. he says the nhs is broken and he's going to fix it and he's telling gb news just then leaving cabinet, he's going to get to work straight away. i do think in politically only really the labour party has the political space to reform the nhs. i think it's an area that the tory party was always on the defensive about. it wasn't trusted by the workforce to get it right. i think wes streeting does have the political freedom, i think, to reform the nhs and get it

working. his first issue in the in—tray is junior doctors. they've been striking for the past year. they want a 35% increase in pay , dawn, 35% increase in pay, dawn, 35% increase in pay, dawn, 35% increase in pay, dawn, 35% increase in pay. he thinks he can get that sorted. but of course there's no money to pay for it. so how will he do that is the first big challenge he's facing . facing. >> i mean, they have accepted, i think in in wales they accepted less than 35% didn't they. so i mean there is a potential for negotiation. there . negotiation. there. >> other doctors have accepted a less than at the junior doctors are holding out for 35. it's such a large figure because they believe they've been underpaid for so long by the tory government when they were in charge, angela smith, baron smith, what have you forgotten ? smith, what have you forgotten? she's not telling her gb news what she's forgotten there, but that's angela smith. bannau smith here is louise hague, the channel secretary. louise hague. how was the meeting? >> not right now. chris how was the first cabinet? >> louise hague they're saying

not right now, chris. so obviously there's some kind of secret they've discussed at cabinet. they won't tell us, but there we are. it's hard to get, of course, is the transport secretary somewhat. yeah. she's a she's a transport secretary on the way into the meeting i said, when will you start nationalising the railways? and she said, as soon as possible. now what that means is that the labour government's plan is that as soon as these franchises end, these rail franchises end and they the state, the government will take over the running of the railways. so after maybe 5 or 6, five years, maybe we'll see the entire rail network in england. certainly owned by the state and run by the state. and that's her plan in government. liz louise hague , she's the liz louise hague, she's the transport secretary. >> chris, i mean, how you know , >> chris, i mean, how you know, you've got your ear close to the ground over there. how happy are the labour faithful with the selection of this cabinet? >> that's very hard to say. i think they are happy because essentially it's the same shadow cabinet as existed. the only

difference is, are the mps who didn't make it back . thangam didn't make it back. thangam debbonaire lost out to the greens in bristol. forgive me. look at my shoulder once again and how was the meeting? >> it's great to be there . >> it's great to be there. >> it's great to be there. >> great to be there. that's baroness smith, she's the labour leader of the house, the government leader of the house of lords, the shadow cabinet. yeah. it's basically the same people being appointed. thangam debbonaire didn't make it back. beaten by the greens in bristol, and of course, jonathan ashworth in leicester. he lost his seat. the surprising move is, as i say, emily thornberry, the shadow attorney general, not given that role in government. we don't know what the problem is or why she hasn't got it. instead, a barrister who wasn't in in the government was given that role by sir keir starmer and made a made a peer in the house of lords. it may be that as a former, as a senior lawyer , as a former, as a senior lawyer, maybe dawn, that he feels that he wants to have someone who he knows from his private practice who he trusts, because that role of attorney general is mainly deaung of attorney general is mainly dealing with is dealing with

senior , big, important legal senior, big, important legal issues, 80% of which we don't know what they are. liz kendall is liz kendall, the welfare secretary. liz kendall, how was the cabinet meeting ? that's the cabinet meeting? that's a that was a nod at the, gb news viewers. they're looking firm. a big challenge for liz kendall, of course, is how to control the welfare budget , i couldn't see welfare budget, i couldn't see who got into the car. then if someone got in the car, i missed that. >> i think it was yvette cooper. >> i think it was yvette cooper. >> the home secretary getting into the car there. yeah, it may well have been yvette cooper the home secretary, of course. big challenge. she's got one of the biggest pressing, most pressing issues in this labour government's in—tray, which is the small boats crisis. now, labour's plan is to drop the rwanda plan on day one. so far, £270 million of our taxpayers money spent on creating a place to receive the rwanda, people in rwanda, small boat arrivals in rwanda, small boat arrivals in rwanda, they will save £100 million over two years by axing

that plan. but what will she replace it with? her plan is , a replace it with? her plan is, a border command. so better. better better, coordination with the security services, mi6, better better, coordination with the security services, m16, m15, the security services, m16, m15, the police, the border force and better cooperation with or enforcement authorities on the continent. so keir starmer is convening a summit at blenheim palace, of 44 european leaders. that's on the 18th of july. and he'll use that as a small boat summit to get cross—government, across europe in fact, cooperation to deal with the small boats crisis and arrivals by small boats. that's his idea . by small boats. that's his idea. but we'll wait and see if it works out. but there was pressure from day one on yvette coopen pressure from day one on yvette cooper. she'll know a lot of things. we don't know about all the all the plots, the issues, the all the plots, the issues, the arrest warrants required, all that stuff that goes on below the line. she is now getting briefings. herjob is highly pressured immediately. but on the surface, of course, the issue of small boats, illegal arrivals on the south coast of our country has not gone away and will keep going.

and that is now her problem. they can't really keep saying that 50,000 small boats for people in small boats. arrival arrived on rishi sunaks watch. we know that's the case, but frankly, who cares anymore ? frankly, who cares anymore? labouris frankly, who cares anymore? labour is in charge and what will they do? >> this is the problem now, isn't it, chris? it's very easy when you're in opposition to say, we'll do this better. we'll do this better. you've been rubbish for the last 14 years, but now , as keir himself said, but now, as keir himself said, it's all about what you is. your action, not your words. and, you know, to be fair to yvette, she has got her work cut out. but, you know, they keep repeating, we're going to smash the gangs, smash the criminal gangs without explaining how they're going to do it. considering most of the gangs are based in turkey for a start . start. >> and it was in front of want of asking them to. and we are always asking sir keir starmer and yvette cooper how? what will you do differently that the tory government hasn't done? and the answer was, well, i mean the border command and better cooperation. but the tory government did tell us all the time that's what we're doing, andifs time that's what we're doing, and it's not working. there was early evidence that the rwanda plan, without even a flight taking off, was working to a

degree. we saw migrants moving to dublin across the border from northern ireland, to avoid being taken to rwanda. we had interviews in the newspaper, the telegraph notably spoke to migrants waiting in camps, in the north coast of france. they're saying they were waiting to come across until the labour government comes in. that was used in the final days of the election campaign by rishi sunak to be a way to criticise labour's plans. i think labour hasn't really got a strong answer yet on the small boats crisis. we wait and see whether the idea of working more closely with foreign countries, a foreign partners will work. that's certainly the idea that keir starmer is pushing, but they've got to tackle it. it wasn't their problem. now then. it certainly is now. >> well, this is why probably that one of the first things our keir starmer did on friday night, when obviously he doesn't work. so he's already lying to us. by the way, was to phone, president macron in france, wasn't it? i think it was one of the first phone calls he made. yeah. >> and he spoke to i think, canadian president, trudeau,

donald tusk, who's the polish pm, he phoned up and of course, we spoke to the french president macron. i think it's slightly unfair, if i may say so. dawn, the idea of not working after 6:00, he said that because he likes to spend time with his family. no, but he observes the jewish rituals of the sabbath with his wife, victoria, on a friday night, and he spends time with his family. i mean, i did ask him on tuesday , just for ask him on tuesday, just for you, dawn, how how are you spending this friday night? and he said he's working. but the idea was he's trying to carve out family time when he can. and it's no worse than david cameron, when david cameron was prime minister and he was regularly pop upstairs to see his children and was never criticised. john healey, will you spend 2.5 billion percent on defence? no answer that was a john healey, the defence secretary, the question i was trying to get out of my mouth and fail slightly was will you spend 2.5% of gdp on defence, he's going to the nato summit on tuesday. of course , with sir

tuesday. of course, with sir keir starmer, and i'll be on the flight with him for gb news all the way to washington. the big question he's got all the time is when will you commit to spending 2.5% of gdp? our gross turnover on defence. i slightly messed up the question , but that messed up the question, but that was the point. he knew what i was the point. he knew what i was asking him . was asking him. >> well, i mean, the tories were committed, weren't they? they did make a promise. whereas with labour it's like it's an ambition, it's a plan. but we can't say definitely when it will happen. >> that's right. that happens a lot. that's exactly right, dawn. the exactly right that the dawn the tories had committed to spending 2.5% of gdp by the end of the decade, i think 2029 was the date they gave us in their manifesto to hit 2.5% of spending on defence of gdp . the spending on defence of gdp. the labour party, the labour government, said when they were campaigning that they are they hope to get there at some point and they're not sure when. i think that pressure will start on day, day 4 or 5 of this government on on those flights to america, when we get a chance to america, when we get a chance to ask sir keir starmer and john healey about defence and it will

accelerate when they get there, when he meets with joe biden and other other senior world leaders . other other senior world leaders. >> chris, just finally, very quickly, i know we're running out of time. what time is this press conference meant to be happening with keir starmer? >> 1:00 pm. we're expecting that to be 1:00 pm. so that'll be in 10 downing street and doo doo. tune in. i'll be trying to ask a question for gb news viewers. what should i ask him? dawn, what's your question? >> i want to ask how he feels about the fact that sort of like round, about 31% of the country voted for him. so i mean, sort of like that means an awful lot of like that means an awful lot of us didn't. how does he feel about that? it's not really a vote of confidence, is it? >> a great question, i'll do my best. >> mr hope, thank you very much for joining us. and go and get forjoining us. and go and get a cup of tea and get dry. blimey chris has been hanging around 10 downing street in the rain and god, it's raining hasn't it, non—stop for us. so thank you very much there, christopher. hope. now let's see what my panel make of this is our i'm joined by the acting editor of conservative home, henry hill, and former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider. thank

you very much for joining me, gentlemen. exciting football i am good. excellent. quite that quick word. right. okay, fine. what do you make of what we've just been seeing at downing street this morning? well i think the government's priorities, at least as they're being presented by chris hope, seem quite at odds with how people were voting. >> in the general election. i mean, people are calling this a loveless landslide. i think that's a good term for it. but it's not just a lack of love for the incoming labour government. there's also for there to be a loveless landslide. there has to be real hatred for the government that has passed. so those priorities can't be the priorities that people wanted, i.e, those of the conservative party and those that labour were putting forward are not very much can't be the priorities that people want. and if you look at the polling, nhs and living standards were overwhelmingly the biggest issues and won labour huge numbers of seats because the tories self—combusted and fell apart, it was a vote against the

tories, it was a vote against the tories. and in and in many places where there was the possibility to vote for an alternative to labour, with no threat whatsoever of the tories getting in, which lots of people were worried about people took that chance . that chance. >> it's like, as england described it, and even emma raducanu at wimbledon, it's winning ugly. that's another way of putting it. henry, what do you make of it? >> so i think the danger here is that starmer ends up falling into exactly the same pit that the conservatives did, because, yes, he's got a very big majority in parliamentary terms. but in terms of actual seat majorities, this is the most marginal parliament since 1945. and that means that all of those labour mps who just run for true blue seats, they're looking at their small majorities. and, you know, are they going to want to build new houses? are they going to want to build new power plants? are they going to want to? so labour like this country's problem, the fundamental challenges that it has, they stretch back to before 2016, before 2010, even, you know, per capita gdp growth, which is what living standards means, productivity, real wages and the idea that labour are going to fix that overnight with a really uncontroversial

manifesto that doesn't involve challenging any of the fundamentals about how this country works, is just for the birds. so i worry essentially that what we're going to we'll find out within two weeks, right. if labour have a really bold king speech with some really controversial stuff in it, there's a chance that they might deliver by the end of this parliament. but if they miss that chance, given this is a very long parliamentary session, if they flub it, there's absolutely no chance of them making a difference. >> interesting proof of that pudding is going to be in the eating , isn't it? well, thank eating, isn't it? well, thank you very much for now, gentlemen. you're staying with me now. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday and there's loads more coming up on today's show. don't reform boris johnson blames pied piper nigel farage in destruction of the tories as he warns the conservatives to avoid merging with reform uk as he offers advice on how to fix the party. is he right though ? all of that and much more to come. this gb news, britain's news

welcome back. have you got a nice cup in front of you ? now? nice cup in front of you? now? this is gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your telly, onune me. dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. or you can have a pint. by the way, it's football now. boris johnson blames pied piper. nigel farage for the role he played in the destruction of the tories . the destruction of the tories. the former prime minister has also warned the conservatives to avoid merging with reform uk , avoid merging with reform uk, saying when we get back in, don't be too hasty to get rid of successful election winning leader. all right? okay, i want to know, is he right though? so let's see what my super panel maker. this. i've been getting on way too well already. henry hill and james schneider, i mean, chit chatting during the break like nato. i mean, come on, have a heated debate , on, have a heated debate, gentlemen, right. okay, so, bofis gentlemen, right. okay, so, boris johnson is saying the tories can do this on their own . tories can do this on their own. henry, you know, we're going to go in. we don't need reform. is he right? >> i mean, they certainly shouldn't merge with reform . shouldn't merge with reform. now, the big question is what happens at the next election. because reform came second in 98 seats, a lot of those seats are labour facing seats where the tories are nowhere. if reform get into parliament with 20, 30,

40 seats in large parts of the country, that's it. the right is structurally divided. at some point ten, 15 years down the line, you're going to have to have a canada style merger. but for now, boris is right. but i think the shameless thing about this is what's the single biggest driver of reform uk getting in? it's the conservatives catastrophically breaking their promises on immigration. who broke that promise? boris johnson he won a mandate in 2019 to deliver brexit and bring immigration under control, and he used the points based system to massively liberalise the system. that's his fault and i honestly admire his fault and i honestly admire his chutzpah . hotspur just being his chutzpah. hotspur just being able to blame other people for that. but that was him that did it. >> james. >> james. >> well, the conservatives, of course, have no right to rule . course, have no right to rule. and i think saying, oh, it was the fault of these other people that are party that's been in power for 14 years, got turfed out by the electorate that hates them, is a bit rich , but sort of them, is a bit rich, but sort of analytically he's right. what has happened in this election? compare it to 2019. labour got fewer votes in this election than in 2019. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so the thing that has

happenedis >> so the thing that has happened is the right bloc, if you like, has completely splintered between reform voters and conservative party voters. and that's why keir starmer has this enormous landslide. so he's he's right. but he's right analytically. but he's not right politically. you can't just say, well, if people are opposed to what we're doing, they should shut up and let us get on with it. otherwise, the other side might win. is basically saying that you have a right to rule. and of course, nobody has a right to rule. >> and of course, this was one of the big problems with the tory general election campaign is that they kept trying to play all the old hits like law and order, crime, taxation and then they were like, but, but, but, but you've raised the tax burden to the highest level since 1948. you've tripled net immigration since you came into office. you know, you're about to have a prisons crisis where you let people out early, like so. this bizarre thing where like, oh, you better vote for us just because the other lot will be worse only works if you're actually delivering at least a bit on your voters priorities. and it was the conservatives that failed to do that. so they're absolutely not entitled. they should need to. they need to win. reform voters back, but they're not entitled to those votes.

>> i mean, nigel farage, for his part, has repeatedly suggested he would not wish to join the conservatives. however, there are some in the conservative party. i think suella braverman being one of them. that said, she would get in bed with boris johnson. i'm sorry for that mental image. it's probably wrong , but you know what i mean. wrong, but you know what i mean. >> i think that some kind of merger doesn't have to be a formal merger. it could be one is taking over the other, but something which brings together those two voter groups that are fundamentally more aligned in their disaligned is likely to happen. i think . but we can't happen. i think. but we can't know the future. so you can't know the future. so you can't know whether that's the conservatives get a new leader . conservatives get a new leader. that new leader starts doing quite well and sort of reform merges underneath. they might run, you know , possibly in an run, you know, possibly in an electoral pact where reform run in 100 seats and the conservatives run in 500 seats, or something like that. but fundamentally, i think the main pole of opposition, unless people on my side of politics, we get our act together and we provide one to a do nothing labour government. when the

macro situation for most people is very bad and is unlikely to get magically better , is going get magically better, is going to be a kind of reform like politics, which will either be led by the conservative party or reform. >> i mean, henry, i mean a conservative home. so you know what you're talking about with the conservatives. is it possible they can come back from this? i mean, it was a fairly resounding get out now. we don't love you anymore, wasn't it? i mean, that's what the vote was. it wasn't voting for labour, per se, because it was just voting to get the tories out. now, we know when a party's been in power for a long time, that that happens. but if they don't get into bed with nigel farage and reform, can they rebuild from where they are now ? where they are now? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, it doesn't mean they will, but they can. as i said, this is the most marginal parliament since 1940. so a lot of those labour mps sitting on quite small majorities in bits of the country that really do not normally vote labour. so that's the first thing. structurally they're much, much bigger than reform uk. and of course it depends on what reform do. right because if reform organise well they use their short money. well they hone their messaging and their discipline. maybe they can

entrench. but look at ukip in the european parliament like they don't have a history of doing that. there's a chance that actually the wheels fall off reform uk over the next five years, in which case conservatives will have an opportunity to re consolidate that right wing bloc under one party. but as i said, if in 2029 reform are disciplined and targeted and they break through in 20 or 30 seats at that point you are talking about a canada style merger , probably in 1015 style merger, probably in 1015 years time. >> interesting times when i have time. god, it's going so fast, right. i'm dawn neesom evidently. and this is gb news saturday and there's lots more coming up on today's show. but first, it's time for the news headunes first, it's time for the news headlines again with ray. >> j it's dawn 1233. our top >>j it's dawn 1233. our top stories . sir keir starmer has stories. sir keir starmer has opened his first cabinet meeting by telling ministers we have a huge amount of work to do. the new pm was applauded by his colleagues as they began the business of governing the country. labour is expected to focus on its manifesto pledges, which include delivering

economic stability and cutting nhs waiting times. sir keir will also need to prepare for a nato summit next week in washington dc, where discussions will include support for ukraine. well, french migrants are reportedly vowing to cross the channel at the first chance they get following labour's election win. according to the telegraph. most migrants at a camp near dunkirk said they were , quote, dunkirk said they were, quote, overjoyed when they were told that rishi sunak was no longer the prime minister. sir keir starmer has previously promised to scrap the rwanda deportation flights on day one if labour reached power . 700 extra reached power. 700 extra officers with will police london this weekend due to a series of protests in the capital, the met is set to deal with a pro—palestine march, a counter—protest and an expected just stop oil event. the force says they're placing conditions on those protests to minimise serious disruption and the impact on london's jewish communities. the government has announced a new support package

for caribbean countries affected by the destruction of hurricane beryl. eu foreign secretary david lammy has increased funding up to £500,000. that money will be used to help those whose homes and livelihoods have been impacted by the cat five hurricane. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much. right now remember let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today because it's all about you, not arne slot. it's really easy, she says, trying to remember how to do it. you visit gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation or message me on our socials @gbnews, which is much easier. and there's loads more coming up on today's show

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there. brave new world and you survived it well so far. now, sir keir starmer has reportedly killed off the rwanda deportation plan on the first day of his premiership. the rwanda proposal is now effectively dead, a bit like the monty python, after the party pledged to kill the plans if they won the election. this is despite the new government setting illegal migration as one of their key priorities. let's see what my marvellous panel maker this. he's still having group hugs in the studio, yeah. stop it. put each other down, james, it's like okay, they're gonna.i james, it's like okay, they're gonna. i mean, yvette cooper she's got a big job on her hands as the new home secretary. it's like crack down on those criminal gangs, as she said. how yet? >> not really, it, like most things, they've stood next to the government and said, well, they're rubbish , they're they're rubbish, they're rubbish. don't vote for them. and then then they come in. now they have to deal with it. of course, killing off weird phrasing, but whatever. i didn't write anything. no, no no , write anything. no, no no, that's, ending the rwanda plan , that's, ending the rwanda plan, which had never actually started is a is a perfectly sensible

rishi sunak didn't believe in it when he was doing it. the round the plan was , i mean, maybe some the plan was, i mean, maybe some people thought it would would work, but it was never actually going to work. so it's a red herring . if you want to talk herring. if you want to talk about migration, you should be talking about what are the rules in which people can come in and how and what are those conditions, and how do those get set, and how is there democratic accountability over them ? what accountability over them? what instead, both parties have done is demonise the most vulnerable as a distraction away from not wanting to talk about other issues which might be falling, living standards. it might be failures in all sorts of things which fundamentally take change. they require money and they require changes to the structures of our society and our economy. so the it this is a it's almost a non—story that they've scrapped the rwanda plan because it wasn't going to happen in, in the first place. now the question should be how much are they going to focus on, on, on this issue? and are they going to talk about it in a way

which is humane, or are they going to talk about it in a way which drives politics away from where they would like it to be? >> do you agree, henry? do you think migrants have been demonised , demonised, >> you know, i mean, i mean, i mean, to an extent in some quarters of the press, but it is a real problem, the and also starmer ran to, tried to run to the right of rishi sunak on migration. i remember in the debate when he accused rishi sunak of being the most liberal prime minister on immigration we've ever had. so labour is, like it or not, quite vulnerable and quite vulnerable on this because again, there's all those seats where reform came second, where if labour comprehensively fail on migration now rwanda , fail on migration now rwanda, the reason that rishi sunak ended up talking about rwanda is because he needed to buy off suella braverman in the leadership contest and the other reason is because he knew he needed to talk about immigration in the election, but he didn't want to talk about legal migration because that's tripled under the tories. and dealing with that would involve showdowns with big business and the university sector, which he didn't want. so he just focused on rwanda. the scheme itself, there was a world in which it might have worked, but it was a

world in which the tories started doing it in 2019, early 2020. it was a five year. having spoken to the people who designed it. it was a five year project. it was never going to work. if you started it in 2022. but what's labour going to do? they've talked about clearing the backlog, but the only thing that we can do on our own to clear the backlog is just let people through, which i suspect is what they're going to start doing. they'll just start rubber stamping applications. there's nothing about making it easier to return people, and there's nothing about interceptions in france or in other places to stop people coming here. so it's a very, very difficult problem. but there is absolutely no evidence that labour is going to get a grip on it. and i suspect if they also don't do anything about the high levels of legal migration we have, they will pay a price for that in 2029. >> jane, do you think that, you know, to clear the backlog, that's what labour are going to do. they're going to rubber stamp people that are, you know, the backlog we have, you know, £7 million on hotels, etc, etc. tourism. do you think they will just sort of like, okay, rubber stamp, you can stay. do you think that's going to be thing? >> i think they need to put more resources into processing the cases. that's very clearly been been the case. if you look at the figures from 2014, where almost every case was processed in six months, and now almost no

cases are processed in six months. so clearly resources need to be there. i just want to say one thing about you said, reformer in second place in in in a bunch of labour seats. but also labour have tried to do this sort of talk, tough dog whistling type politics that then with no policies behind it. so in the election campaign, keir starmer and jonathan ashworth came out and they, they, they singled out bangladeshis. they, they singled out bangladeshis . and that's why bangladeshis. and that's why jonathan ashworth lost his seat . jonathan ashworth lost his seat. he he lost his seat by 1000 votes to an independent, to an independent in gaza, an independent in gaza, an independent in, in in leicester south, in part because of the anger of the bengali community at being singled out and demonised for a problem which is nothing to do with them. so i think there is a lot of pressure or there should be a lot of pressure on labour's other flank. if you like, from greens, from independents, from left, etc, who say we don't want this type of demonising language and

we don't want this type of politics, which engages in performative cruelty. >> now, if they do get the amount of civil servants needed to process the applications of the people that are still here on this huge backlog, but some of them fell and some of them obviously will, weren't they, henry? what do we do with them? >> well, i mean, that's the problem. >> where do we send them? >> where do we send them? >> so there's all kinds of reasons. resourcing is part of it. but there are other reasons why they take longer than 2014, which is there are now so many grounds on which you can appeal. for example, we. theresa may introduced the modern slavery legislation, which literally any applicant can file a modern slavery claim that delays their claim by two years. but the other problem is what do you do when you have failed them and the other country won't take them back because all of these people destroyed their passports or get rid of their passports? it's actually incredibly easy to send people back anywhere if they have their paperwork. and they have their paperwork. and the best case i ever heard for rwanda was that because you would automatically be sent to rwanda and if you wanted to leave at the end of it, you'd probably want to have a passport. it would stop people throwing their passports. right. >> okay. yeah. >> okay. yeah. >> so you need to have more deals like we have with albania, bilateral deals. but also if you really want to crack down on it,

you're going to have to look at some of the legal architecture that's currently in place around how people can appeal. because if you don't streamline that, no amount of money is going to get people who fail out . people who fail out. >> so but what are we meant to do with them, james? i mean, the ones that foul, where are we meant to send them? what are we meant to send them? what are we meant to send them? what are we meant to do with them? well, if they haven't got any papers back to france, are the french going to france, are the french going to be happy with that? >> so if someone i mean, as henry says, if someone is failed, then they should be returned to their country, which is why you want to strike deals. >> we don't know that country. >> we don't know that country. >> why you want to strike bilateral deals with other countries. if they the if someone is failed, they will be assigned . they will. the home assigned. they will. the home office will think that that person is from a particular country. you know, let's say if somebody says they're from country a and the home office says, actually, no, we don't think you're from country a, that's why we're not giving you the refugee status. we think you're from country b. well, then that's the country in which they should seek to resettle that person . that person. >> but that's not. >> but that's not. >> but that's not. >> but if that but if they don't have the paperwork that country

probably won't accept them. that's the that's the problem . that's the that's the problem. i've spoken to people in the home office. you can send people back to almost any country on earth, as long as you can prove that they're that country's citizen. but understandably, many of those countries, if we just rock up with someone and be like, we think he's one of yours, they're not interested, >> it's a dilemma, isn't it, for everybody. >> okay, well, we'll run out of time because . right. we're time because. right. we're trying to solve the problems of the world here. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday, and there's loads more coming up on today's show. now the new pm is already putting up his bunting for tonight , bless him. but for tonight, bless him. but england must improve if they are to win their first european championship. and things are starting to get serious in the quarterfinals. but the question everyone wants to know is it coming home? i'm not singing. don't worry, you're safe . all of don't worry, you're safe. all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel and we're talking football very .

soon. oh, blimey. honestly, welcome back to gb news satire with me. dawn neesom on your telly, onune dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. one of my guests claims to know nothing about football. and then she spent the last ten minutes talking about it. and on top any case, england must improve. if they are to win, they must improve their first european championship. and things are starting to get serious in the quarterfinals. having needed extra time to get past slovakia, a population of £5.5 million. people. gareth southgate has reportedly been working on a new formation to tackle switzerland and score goals. but the questions on everyone's lips is it coming home right? okay, now, as i said, one of my panel called james actually. well, i would say he's a football fan, but he supports arsenal, so maybe maybe it's a loose interpretation. the other one, henry, supports himself, and he has got an interesting theory. so i'm going to come to you first. james excited 5:00 kick

off tonight. >> i'm anxious home. i'm anxious because we've been really bad. >> we have a fantastic we've got the best team in the tournament. >> as in the best players as in individual players. >> we have the best players in the tournament. and if you were to make a fantasy league side of who, who do you want from the euros? a lot of them would be engushin euros? a lot of them would be english in your in your fantasy 11, but right now they're playing like man united. there's this huge gap between the back line and the forward line. just little teams. >> you can see live downing street now where they are hanging out the bunting. oh lovely. ready for the game tonight . marvellous. well lovely. ready for the game tonight. marvellous. well i'm sure you've done the same at home. i need to go home and then i. >> ..- >> yeah, >> yeah, >> so england have basically been playing like man united. they've been playing , terrible they've been playing, terrible football with fantastic 11 of players. so if southgate is working on new formation, that's good because they do need it because they are playing very, very badly with absolute superstars and hoping that individual moments of brilliance will save us. and that is what

happened against slovakia in the 95th minute. we were one nil down, phenomenal moment of individual brilliance. but that's not how team wins and it's not how southgate has been england manager before. we've been far less good in terms of our players and we've done well because we've had a solid base and a clear system. now it's sort of been thrown to the wind and we're seeing the results. the results are boring football where we can't score goals and we are giving chances to much inferior teams. >> so henry, the 442 formation, the christmas tree formation. what do you reckon tonight . what do you reckon tonight. >> this is what i imagine heanng >> this is what i imagine hearing political analysis from me is like millions and millions for millions and millions of people. you know, i can hear there's loads of technical stuff in there. it sounds really important. i've got no idea. i spend a football match asking my brother what the different lines are on the pitch. do >> who hired him? >> who hired him? >> come on. right >> come on. right >> okay. so. so are you going to be getting behind england today? why don't you discovered what the lines do? actually, some of the lines do? actually, some of the players don't know. >> i mean the few like genuinely, i occasionally watch football when my friends are

watching it and it's always incredibly stressful. i don't know how you guys do it all the time, right? james takes years off my life, but like, no, currently i will not be watching it. i mean , i wish, i wish the it. i mean, i wish, i wish the best. this is a problem. i wish the best of any british team competing. my country doesn't compete at international football. sadly even scotland, you know, team u wears. team uk wears . why doesn't my country wears. why doesn't my country get to have a football team outside the olympics? >> team uk yeah team uk i it's nice at the olympics, but each of the, each of the countries that make up each of the nations that make up each of the nations that make up doesn't have a team. right dawn neesom is gb views saturday. >> let's find out at least what the weather's doing away, who's doing it? is catherine here she is with your weather for you . is with your weather for you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. welcome to your gb news. weather update from the met office this weekend is sunny

spells for some of us. scattered showers around but still feeling cool. we've got low pressure generally in charge that's moving its way eastwards and northwesterly winds, giving that cool feel for the time of year. so through this afternoon, any showers gradually easing later on. so turning dry across parts of england in towards the south—east but showers still continuing across parts of scotland and northern ireland before further showers come in from the south—west temperatures tonight though under the clear , tonight though under the clear, spells 10 or 11 degrees but feeling fresher across parts of rural scotland. so to start sunday morning there will be some dry and brighter weather around, especially across eastern parts, to start the day , eastern parts, to start the day, but further towards the southwest we've got a focus for some heavy showers moving in from the south, heavy at times with the odd rumble of thunder and coming to in north western parts of england as well. northern ireland seeing a few showers as well just into coastal areas, but across parts

of scotland a little bit drier with plenty of sunshine. just some rain coming into orkney and shetland to start the day . so as shetland to start the day. so as we go through sunday, showers continuing but actually becoming more widespread as we go through into the afternoon. heavy at times containing the odd rumble of thunder too. across scotland . of thunder too. across scotland. dry here with some sunnier spells and lighter winds for many of us as well, so that will help with the temperatures giving a slightly warmer feel where you do catch any sunshine. and across parts of scotland , and across parts of scotland, temperatures recovering up around 215 degrees sunday evening. then we'll start to see showers fading away, turning dner showers fading away, turning drier with some late evening sunshine, but another area of low pressure is coming in towards the southwest. so as we go into monday, tuesday and wednesday, wednesday generally unsettled but temperatures may be recovering just slightly . be recovering just slightly. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .

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appointed a cabinet that was done yesterday afternoon and completed some went to the privy council this morning to receive their seals , which was a moment their seals, which was a moment in history. we followed that with the first cabinet meeting of the labour government of 2024. at that cabinet meeting i had the opportunity to set out my cabinet precisely what i expect of them in terms of standards , delivery and the standards, delivery and the trust that the country has put in them. and yesterday i met laurie magnus, the independent adviser on standards, to discuss how we deliver in government at the cabinet meeting, i also discussed mission delivery, how we would put into action the plans that we had set out in our manifesto and that we will have mission delivery boards to drive through the change that we need, and that i will be chairing those boards to make sure that it's clear to everyone that they

are my priority in government . are my priority in government. we also talked about preparations for the king's speech, and i reminded the entire cabinet, that we will be judged on actions, not on words. and this afternoon i will continue to make a number of frontbench appointments. we clearly on thursday got a mandate from all four nations for the first time in 20 plus years. we have a majority in england in scotland and in wales, and that is a clear mandate to govern for all four corners of the united kingdom . corners of the united kingdom. and therefore i shall set off tomorrow to be in all four nations. i shall go first to scotland. i shall then go to northern ireland, then to wales, and then back to england, where

i will meet the first ministers, not to just discuss the issues and challenges of the day . of and challenges of the day. of course we will do that, but also to establish a way of working across the united kingdom that will be different and better to the way of working that we've had in recent years, and to recognise the contributions of all four nations. on thursday, we also got a mandate on economic growth. the number one mission of the labour government. and so we discussed at cabinet and have started the work on driving growth and to make sure that growth is everywhere across the whole country so that people are better off everywhere, wherever they live . the principle i they live. the principle i operate to is those with skin in the game know what's best for their communities, and that does require us to be bold about pushing power and resource out

of whitehall. and therefore, when i return from the four nations, i shall hold a meeting of the metro mayors to discuss with them their part in delivering the growth that we need across the united kingdom that will be on tuesday. that will include non—labour metro mayors. there's no monopoly on good ideas, and i'm not a tribal politician. and the principle i operate to, whether it's mayors or other elected representatives, is that where regional leaders want to deliver for their area, then, regardless of the colour of their rosette, my door is open and my government will work with them . government will work with them. later on tuesday, i shall set off to washington for the nato summit . i off to washington for the nato summit. i have already had a number of international calls. as you will know, and as you would have expected to establish the relations across with other

countries to have really important discussions about ukraine and other pressing issues and washington will be an opportunity for me to have further discussions with some of the leaders i've already spoken to and some that i'm due to speak to. it is, of course , an speak to. it is, of course, an important summit on nato. it is for me to be absolutely clear that the first duty of my government is security and defence, to make clear our unshakeable support of nato and of course, to reiterate, as i did to president zelenskyy yesterday, the support that we will have in this country and with our allies towards ukraine. so this will be a politics and a government that is about delivery, is about service , delivery, is about service, self—interest is yesterday's politics. i want a politics and a country that works for you . a country that works for you. thank you very much. and i will now take a number of questions

starting. i think, with . chris. starting. i think, with. chris. >> thank you. prime minister chris mason , bbc news. chris mason, bbc news. >> you've said that change can't be delivered by flicking a switch, but plenty of people might want lots of switches flicked pretty quickly . flicked pretty quickly. >> and so i wonder how soon you can actually start delivering concrete change. and if i may have you unpacked yet, have you found your way around? >> well, there are two different questions. look, i'm restless for change, and i think and hope that what you've already seen, demonstrates that . not least the demonstrates that. not least the appointment yesterday of patrick vallance and james timpson. two individuals who are associated with change and delivery. and it won't surprise you to know that the discussions i had yesterday with them were not the first discussions i've had with them. we've been talking to them for some time about the need for the

change that we will put in place, but look , this is . place, but look, this is. not. 14 years it is going to take. >> we are actually having some issues with the order, with actually, hearing sir keir starmer who is giving his first press conference live from downing street election result. >> but we have been planning for months hitting the ground running. i have had extensive conversations myself, as has the now cabinet with all those that they need to deliver, with which are to ensure that we can hit the ground running and put into place the plans that we need. there will be further announcements coming over coming days , but that preparation has days, but that preparation has been extensive over the last six months. i've required all of my now cabinet to have gone through on their brief the decisions that need to be taken, the people they're going to talk to in relation to those decisions.

that work has been going on for six months or more, and that means we can hit the ground running. but look, it is not an overnight exercise changing the country. thank you. chris i'll go to beth, please. thank you . go to beth, please. thank you. >> thank you very much , prime >> thank you very much, prime minister, you have won a massive majority, but your vote share is quite low. it's much lower in terms of voter support than blair in 1997. you talk about the mood of the country. i think you have some ideas as to why. can you give us one concrete thing that you will promise voters you will deliver in your first 100 days to make them believe the change message? and if you'd indulge us, millions of people saw that exit poll drop. some of them gasped. what was your emotion when you saw it ? your emotion when you saw it? thank you. >> thank you very much. look the thing that's changed already is

the mindset of government. it's a mindset of service, of country first, party second. that's not a slogan. that is the test for all of our decisions. so when submissions come to me from the cabinet, when i have had to take decisions which i've already had to, of course the principle is country first, party second, and that's the driving principle. so that's the driving principle. so that change has already happened. i set out before the election what our first steps will be. we've started work on those first steps. you've seen wes streeting make clear the steps he's already taking to resolve some of the issues that have been unresolved for some time, with a degree of raw honesty, as well as to the state of being so that's the mandate. that's how we go forward. and look, you know, in relation to the outcome on thursday, it is a clear mandate. we argued for change. we have got that mandate and we have got it in for all four nations. and that is really important for us as well. i was pleased to see that exit poll, i didn't i didn't believe it

until, like everybody else, i stayed up to watch every single result come in, peppered with the speeches i gave, including the speeches i gave, including the one at 5 am. at the event that we held . but it was only as that we held. but it was only as the final results came through that, i was confident that we'd got to where we needed to be to do the work that we need to do. chris, i didn't answer the second part of your as to finding my way around, i've got a basic understanding of the rooms i've used so far here, and that's good. but there are plenty of hidden places i'm yet to discover , and no, we're not to discover, and no, we're not unpacked quite yet, but we will be soon, and we'll be moving in soon. but there's a bit of work to do before then. and of course, i'm off to washington on tuesday. thank you very much, beth. robert thank royal preston , i tv, itv, >> prime minister, you talk about the need for a reset. one of the lessons of labour

governments is the need to take the tough decisions early. we've already heard from wes streeting that in his view, the policy now of the nhs is that it is broken. if in the coming weeks, as you go through department by department, you find that things are worse than you expected, are you prepared to take tough decisions early, including possibly raising more from taxation and then secondly, just on on beth's point about how you've won the biggest majority relative to the size of the vote in history, in history, you said yesterday that your priority would be to govern for those who didn't vote for you, some 80% of british voters didn't vote for

you. that's including those who didn't vote at all. what does that mean in practice? in a sense, for the culture of the government and how you'll govern? >> thank you . robert. look, in >> thank you. robert. look, in relation to the tough decisions, we're going to have to take the tough decisions and take them early. and we will, we will do that with a raw honesty. and that's really what sat behind wes streeting description yesterday of the nhs as being broken. it is everybody who uses it and works in it knows that it is broken, and we're not going to operate under the pretence or language that doesn't express the problem as it is, because otherwise we won't be able to fix the problem as quickly as we need to, and we'll continue in that vein. there are other issues. prisons would be an obvious example where other parts of the system are broken, and we're going to have to approach that with a raw honesty as well. and we will take the tough , decisions. but that is tough, decisions. but that is not a sort of prelude to saying

there's some tax decision that we didn't speak about before . we didn't speak about before. we're about to announce now. it's about the tough decisions to fix the problem of being honest about what they are. on the second part of your question, it was very important to me to say what i said on the steps yesterday about those that didn't vote for us, because we're a government of service to all people, whether they voted for us or not, and i include within that people who voted for labour the first time on thursday because across the country, in many places, people will have voted labour for the first time, perhaps never having voted labour before. and i recognise that, and that they put their trust and confidence in us, and we have to repay that. so we hold them in our minds. i people who didn't vote for us, need to know that we will serve them, that we will not turn our back on people just because we don't think they voted for us. we'll govern for the whole country. and that's what i meant by what i said yesterday. it's about taking the country forward , and doing that

country forward, and doing that in conjunction with our first ministers, doing that in conjunction with our mayors and other elected representatives across the areas, so that we can govern for the whole of the country and take the country forward and turn our back on tribal politics and simply picking issues we want to fight just for the party politics of it . that's what's gone wrong, in it. that's what's gone wrong, in my view, in the last few years where priorities are simply set by party advantage rather than country first. and that's an example of what i mean by country first, party second, and that's the approach we'll take. thank you. robert paul, channel 4. >> good afternoon, prime minister, >> firstly, have you got used to heanng >> firstly, have you got used to hearing yourself get called that yet? >> and secondly, if i may just pick up on chris's point there that you said progress isn't going to be like flicking a light switch. you've said that it's going to take a while, but for people at home who are feeling pinched, who are feeling desperate, when can they expect

things to start getting any better? >> a year from now, two years from now, before the next election, or perhaps never? >> well, look, on the first question, yes, i'm getting used to it. i'm very happy to be called, keir or prime minister. i do recognise, and i said this to the civil service yesterday. why? for them it is important to refer to the office holder as prime minister because they're serving the office. i recognise this when i was director of pubuc this when i was director of public prosecutions and it's not it is actually important to them to use the title because it reinforces in them what they are doing by way of public service, and i respect that and understand that i'm perfectly happy to be called keir, but i do recognise why that happened on on change the work has started and we will deliver change as quickly as we can and that will include change. you know , within the early months know, within the early months and years of the government, it won't be a question of simply saying nothing's going to change until towards the end of the first term. but different change will be delivered at different speeds. will be delivered at different speeds . inevitably. what i can't

speeds. inevitably. what i can't pretend is that we can fix everything overnight. at the obvious example of that is the mess the government or the last government made in relation to prisons, they mismanaged the building programme. half the money hasn't been spent. the tough decisions weren't taken on planning. we don't have the prisons we need. and i can't build a prison in 24 hours. but we can get to grips with the planning aspect of that straight away. we can push on half the money has not been spent, and we will do that straight away. but it will take time. thank you very much, aggie from lbc. >> thank you very much. you mentioned prisons. now a couple of times. prime minister, i wonder whether you agree with your new prisons minister that only a third of people in prisons should definitely be there. >> well, look, the prison minister has huge experience here and has invested a huge amount over many years in relation to prisons and that's why i wanted to make that appointment. we do need to be clear about the way in which we use prisons. we need to get away

from the fact that for so many people come out of prison, they're back in prison relatively quickly afterwards. thatis relatively quickly afterwards. that is a massive problem that we have in this country that we do need to break. and that's why i was very pleased to put james into post. someone who hasn't just talked the talk has actually walked the walk for many years in this respect. and i think he's i was very pleased to make that appointment, very pleased to have spoken with him. you know, about the change that we can bring about. thank you. i'll go to caroline . i'll go to caroline. >> thanks very much. >> thanks very much. >> caroline wheeler. from the sunday times. and congratulations, prime minister. thank you. your victory. and it seems to be a theme here that we're talking about. >> you want to hit the ground running? i'm just wondering, in terms of the nhs, when can you commit to getting those 40,000 additional appointments up and running? is that something you can do within the first year? and as you head out towards nato, how quickly do you think that you can reach 2.5% on

defence spending , in that you can reach 2.5% on defence spending, in terms of gdp and if i may, just something very close to my heart, will you recommit to the previous government's proposals to compensate the victims of the contaminated blood scandal, which is estimated to cost £12 billion? >> let's do those in reverse order. the third answer is yes. it's very important for reasons that you know better than most in terms of your personal involvement in the campaign that led ultimately to a belated but at least better outcome. so yes, is the answer to that on the 2.5. look, we are committed to it , for all the reasons i said it, for all the reasons i said in the campaign, it will have to be done within our fiscal rules and it will be done within our fiscal rules. but the strategic review will start shortly. of our capabilities and an assessment of what is needed, where that we can do straight away . but the commitment to 2.5 away. but the commitment to 2.5 is real, but it will be within our fiscal rules, and we will

not be tempted, as the last government was, to pretend that money is there now, which isn't there in relation to the nhs, and particularly the 40,000 extra appointments. the work on that starts straight away and the way we will approach this is in saint thomas's hospital, just across the way, and other hospitals. leeds is an example. they have already done this, of their own volition because they were so concerned about the impact of waiting lists on their own hospitals that they set up schemes to work evenings and weekends. and we've talked through with them how they did it, we will use them around the country now. and they've agreed to this. they will go across the country to be deployed to help set up the model in other hospitals as quickly as we can. so i can't say by date x it will happen, but we've already had quite some discussions about how that will be rolled out from day one, and there will be other announcements from various members of the cabinet in coming days about the actions that we're taking on a number of

fronts. thank you. caroline. toby >> the prime minister, congratulations on your victory, >> one of the things that many of your mps and people who voted for you will be hoping to hear early on in your premiership is some commitment to tackle the issue of child poverty . can you issue of child poverty. can you give a guarantee that you intend to get rid of the two child cap on child poverty? as a first part of that process ? part of that process? >> what i can i mean, the answer, today is no different to the answer a week ago. you'll be pleased to know because i said some tough things in the campaign because i meant them. and i wasn't going to do what others had done, which is to say sweet things on the way in, only to do a press conference like this two days later or three days later saying, we can't do any of that. and so two child, benefit is an example of that difficult decision . absolutely.

difficult decision. absolutely. understand how difficult it is, how important it is, and i'm not shying away from that , but, you shying away from that, but, you know, we intend to have economic stability. we intend to ensure that we stick to our rules. and that we stick to our rules. and thatis that we stick to our rules. and that is why i can't make the commitment on the two child benefit. what i can say is this we have and we're already setting up the child poverty strategy, which will deliver a reduction in child poverty. i am determined to do that. it will be a measure of what this labour government does, just as it was a measure of the last labour government that drove down child poverty. i don't want any child living in poverty and so that strategy will be developed , and strategy will be developed, and as soon as we're able, i'll share with you more details in relation to that. but, the fact that i can't make the commitment on the two child benefit does not mean that we're parking the strategy on reduction of child poverty. on the contrary, it makes it all the more urgent. and we will be working on that and started on that already, kate . kate. >> thanks, prime minister, can i

just go back to the question of prisons? your prisons minister, james timpson, said precisely this . we are addicted to this. we are addicted to punishment. people are in prison who should not be, i.e. they're given a prison sentence and they shouldn't be. do you agree? yes. or no? and are you going to continue with the early release of prisoners very quickly rwanda scheme? is that dead and buried , scheme? is that dead and buried, >> that's three kate in one, look , the rwanda scheme was dead look, the rwanda scheme was dead and buried before it started. it's never been a deterrent, look at the numbers that have come over in the first six and a bit months of this year. they are record numbers. that is the problem that we are inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent . almost the opposite, deterrent. almost the opposite, because everybody has worked out, particularly the gangs that run this , that the chance of run this, that the chance of ever going to rwanda was so slim , ever going to rwanda was so slim, less than 1% that it was never a deterrent . the chances were of deterrent. the chances were of not going and not being

processed and staying here. therefore, in paid for accommodation for a very, very long time. it's had the complete opposite effect, and i'm not prepared to continue with gimmicks that don't act as a deterrent, in relation to early release. look, we are, as i've actually said before the election, we're going to have to deal with the problem we've got with prisons. there is no overnight solution to the problem. we've got too many prisoners, not enough prisons . prisoners, not enough prisons. that's a monumental failure of the last government on any basic view of government to get to a situation where you haven't got enough prison places for prisoners, it doesn't matter what your political stripe. that is a failure of government. it's a failure of government to instruct the police not to arrest. this has not had enough attention, in my view, but it's what happened. we will fix that. but we can't fix it overnight. and therefore it is impossible to simply say we will stop the early release of prisoners. and you wouldn't believe me if i did say it in relation to prisons and the people that are there. look, i've sat in the back of i

don't know how many criminal courts and watched people process through the system on an escalator to go into prison. and i've often reflected that many of them could have been taken out of that system earlier if they had had support. and that is why what we want to do with our youth hubs and on knife crime is really, really important because i want to reduce crime . i want to ensure reduce crime. i want to ensure less people are going into crime. there is a point of intervention . i think in the intervention. i think in the early teenage years of children, young people, i think particularly boys in my experience where we can reach in and ensure some of them do not get on that escalator. it's difficult , it's hard work, it difficult, it's hard work, it can be done. but if you can pull people out before they get on the escalator that ends up in imprisonment, that means that they have more productive lives and that they don't have the victims of their offences. knife crime would be an example . it is

crime would be an example. it is a clear priority for me on knife crime and we will begin that work very quickly on knife crime, to reduce it. but one way, there are a number of ways that are included in that. but one way is to reach out and stop people getting into knife crime in the first place. difficult to do, but i'm determined to do it because otherwise you and i will all sit at the back of courts watching the same people being processed over and over and over again into our prisons, where it costs a fortune to keep them there and doesn't have the same effect on reducing crime that we could have if we intervened at an earlier stage. thank you. kate. genevieve at the sunday telegraph . hello prime minister, telegraph. hello prime minister, given that it is your view that the nhs is broken, are you happy with the performance of the nhs? >> nhs chief executive amanda pritchard? and will you be keeping her on? >> look, this is not aimed at the chief executive of the nhs. it's a reflection on the failure

of leadership of the last government. but it is a raw honesty about the state of the nhs because we will not fix it if we aren't honest. it's a tough thing to hear if you work in the nhs, obviously my wife works in the nhs, as i may have mentioned, but it's tough because if you work in the nhs you're putting a huge amount in in difficult circumstances. it's unrelenting. but, you know, we have to be honest about this. it's broken. and our job now , is it's broken. and ourjob now, is not just to say who broke it, the last government, but to get on and start to fix it, which is what we will be doing. and wes streeting has already started on that work. thank you. and then mikey smith from the sunday mirror . mirror. >> good morning, prime minister, your cabinet has more members that went to comprehensive schools than any before, if i'm not mistaken. >> how important was it to you that your top team reflect the country? they're going to be running quickly? if i may, should we expect any more peerages to be given to experts

so you can bring them into your team, >> just on the first question, i'm really proud of the fact that my cabinet reflects the aspiration that i believe lies at the heart of our country, the aspiration that so many people have wherever they started from, to make a journey on in life for themselves, for their families, their communities, and ultimately for their country. and i said that at the at the cabinet meeting this morning that i'm proud of the fact that we have people around that cabinet table, who didn't have the easiest of starts in life. but to see them sitting in the cabinet this morning was a proud moment for me and for this changed labour party and a reinforcement of my belief in that aspiration, which is a value that i use , to help me

value that i use, to help me make decisions. it's an anchor for me in relation to future peerages. well, look, i don't want to get ahead of myself. we are, making further appointments this afternoon in relation to the front bench, but i think you can see from the appointments i made yesterday , just how made yesterday, just how important they are. patrick vallance, i think anybody who knows him knows, his commitment to delivery, james as well. and of course, richard hermer as attorney general, who has already taken the opportunity to make clear the importance of the rule of law in the decisions that we take and the way that we operate as a government. thank you all very much indeed. thank you.thank you all very much indeed. thank you. thank you . you. thank you. >> okay. right. i'm sorry. i'm transfixed by that. it was so fascinating there, wasn't it? right now, i mean, so far i have

heard, that we are going to have change. change at some point, i think was the main message. he is going travelling around all four nations to meet up with the leaders of the orphanage unification. that's what he's about. he's also willing to work with all political parties. i mean, does that include reform? i mean, asking for a friend, and beth rigby from sky. did ask, can you give us the one concrete thing you deliver in the first 100 days? and i believe keir starmer mentioned change, didn't actually specify what he was going to change. now, i've got a brilliant panel with me to discuss that, and we've all been paying discuss that, and we've all been paying rapt attention, haven't we, gentlemen, alex cairns and albie amankona, i'm going to come to you first, alex. i mean, you're a young. i mean, you know, keir starmer is trying to appeal to the young voters here. were you were you convinced by what you've heard? just now? i mean, is he your prime minister? >> that's an interesting question. >> i think, you know, time will tell. i agree with you. i don't know if there was a lot of detail on there. i definitely

like the fact that he's talking about working cross party. i think it's very, very important. you know, the reality is you've got 34% of the vote. you know, when we polled young people just before, about 50% said they were going to vote for him. but actually everyone else went, you know, it's where green party lib dems, some went to reforms. actually, it's very interesting to see the fact that a lot of young people will feel very like like a marmite, you know, like some people like him, some people don't. and he needs to, you know, win them over essentially. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> albi, were you impressed by, keir starmer's first press conference? >> i don't know if impress is the right word. >> prod you to keep awake. think. >> i think keir starmer. >> i think keir starmer. >> look, he's got an impressive cv. >> he delivered an impressive electoral win. i don't think he is an impressive speech giver or an impressive media performer. bons an impressive media performer. boris johnson was very good at that. people get very excited about boris johnson's speeches, not been very excited about really any prime minister since bons really any prime minister since boris johnson's speeches to be quite frank. but i think the point about change and delivery is an important one. i think one of the questions that was asked

was how long will it take until the change actually happens? i was on a show yesterday which takes lots of callers in, and one of the things that was really quite evident was that people wanted change and they wanted change within 12 months. so the question is , is can the so the question is, is can the new prime minister, sir keir starmer , actually deliver any starmer, actually deliver any tangible changes to nhs waiting lists to the cost of living crisis, to what's happening in education and all of these issues that people are really, really quite angry with. the tories in action over, can this labour government actually create change in the first 12 months? >> i'm unsure. >> i'm unsure. >> what do you reckon, alex? i mean, he did say, i mean , as we mean, he did say, i mean, as we said earlier on, when you're in opposition, it's very easy to say, vote for us, we'll do better than them. yeah. and that's what he also said there, even though he is now in charge, he goes, well we're going to do better than the tories. but the devil is in the detail and i'm still not getting much detail. look, granted, you can't change the mess in some of our services overnight, but where is he going

to start. what's he going to concentrate on? >> yeah i agree and actually, you know they said a lot of things about you know we're going to you know, focus on growth. you know it's very vague. you know we're going to try and create this new investment fund and we're going to work with business. >> the reality is the country, you know, people won't like to hear this, but actually it's just the honest truth. taxes at some point will need to go up because actually a lot of things need investment. you know, a lot of people, you know, i know that we can disagree or agree about the blair—brown years, but actually what people liked is initially when they got in, they actually started to be quite radical from day kind of dot. you know, gordon brown gave , you you know, gordon brown gave, you know, monetary independence to the bank of england. they did lots of things and they started to invest. and actually we saw lots of things happen. you know, child poverty came down. you know, i don't feel very inspired. and a lot of young people actually look at starmont think, you know, we voted maybe for labour to get rid of the tories, but actually, what are they going to do about, you know, the fact that lots of renters are having landlords put up their prices, what are they going to do about mortgages? you know, a lot of people can't get a dentist appointment for goodness sake. the transport,

you know, a lot of people thought that they were going to nationalise, the energy. they're not going to nationalise the energy. they've got a new gb, whatever it's called, actually funded by private investment. yeah. and it's very, very vague. the energy companies are now. yeah. and i actually think that a lot of people want, you know, in the first year, as you said, obe, they want a lot of change. you know, there's no point saying in an election we're going to change. change what? and when you're going to change it, you know, you can't change it, you know, you can't change it in three years time because then people will be really regretful that they put you in power, you know? >> and actually, a lot of you out there do keep your comments coming in. but i was saying exactly the same thing. i mean, david allred, you say all all talk know how, which is what i think a lot of people are saying, along with the lines that he is also actually quite boring. >> look, he's been prime minister for 24 hours. i would be surprised if we could say anything other than that. >> he's all talk. >> he's all talk. >> not much can happen in 24 hours, but a lot has to happen over the next 12 months. i don't think all of the problems, to be quite frank, that people want solving within a year, are actually solvable. >> within a year. they're not solvable within a year. so i think what the prime minister needs to do is be honest about

that and say, well, look, the programme of change that i want for this country as the first labour prime minister since gordon brown is going to take x number of years, we're going to put out these different sort of barometers so you can track us on our progress, and i'll keep updating you as i go. rather than the speech that he gave today , which was really no today, which was really no detail on anything. and using vague terms like growth, change, respect, which no one really disagrees with. >> but what does it actually mean ? well, exactly. mean? well, exactly. >> that's the thing. and lord helpus has been in touch. one thing he has done is scrap the rwanda plan, and as the lord helper says, it's fine to scrap rwanda when he gets a better idea of what he's going to do about it, but not beforehand. i agree, lots of you agreeing on that one as well. now you can also get in touch and let us know your thoughts and all the stories we're discussing today and what you make of keir starmer's first press conference as prime minister. it's very simple. visit gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation or

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>> good luck. i mean, just imagine the summer you could have with that amount of money. now back to politics. yeah. bons now back to politics. yeah. boris johnson boris johnson blames pied piper nigel farage for the role he played in the destruction of the tories. the former prime minister has also warned the conservatives to avoid merging with reform uk, saying when we get back in, don't be too hasty to get rid of successful election winning leaders. okay, i want to know though, is he right and what leaders is actually talking about, let's see what my wonderful panel make of this. i've still got alex cairns and albie amankona with me. alby, i'm going to come to you first on this one. boris johnson. don't get into bed with reform. whatever you do. very strong words. and he does. he's got away with words, to be fair. is he right, though the goal of bons he right, though the goal of boris johnson to blame someone else for destroying the conservative party? >> i just think is absolutely unbelievable . boris johnson, unbelievable. boris johnson, when he was prime minister oversaw the highest levels of net migration that this country

has ever seen, and priti patel's liberalisation of the immigration laws post brexit ushered in this period of mass migration that we have seen three times higher than under gordon brown, and that that was at the point when the conservatives came in of course, in 2010, with the lib dem coalition under a promise to get immigration down to the tens of thousands. >> so the idea that boris johnson is going to blame the demise of the tory party on someone outside of the tory party when it's his policy failings, moral failings and inability to govern in a proper way that has caused this awful electoral defeat, that we saw last night, is just, quite frankly, unbelievable. >> so, boris, be quiet. >> so, boris, be quiet. >> not a fan, i'm guessing here, >> not a fan, i'm guessing here, >> alex. but the thing is, boris talks and people do. we've just listened to, sir keir starmer, our new prime minister talking, and i'm sorry, but there were people nodding off. i mean, but when boris talks, people listen. so do you think the conservative party will listen to him or

should listen to him about reform ? >> so reform? >> so there'll be a portion of the party that listened to him. i think what's going to happen to the tory party is they're going to split in two. you'll have people that do think that they need to. many of them left. well well, from the small, small number of mps that they have , number of mps that they have, they are going to split because i personally think they've actually got to pull to the centre. i actually think if you if you remember back in 2010, the cameron kind of osborne kind of strategy, i should think from a centre right perspective, that's probably more tactical. way to go . there'll be some way to go. there'll be some people that say no, but reform won 4 million votes. but actually the thing about on the far right, you've got to remember that actually the way that the system works in the uk is far easier to win a parliamentary majority if you're in the centre ground, if you if you move towards the right , act you move towards the right, act like the far right, i think is difficult to win a majority. so i actually think that i get what he's coming from and i agree, what is far right. >> by the way, i always try and get people to define what far right actually is. i mean, is suella braverman far right? >> i think some of her

perspectives are i mean , listen, perspectives are i mean, listen, the reason i say far right is i think people that maybe won't say it publicly, but they have what i would say racist or very, very strong views that i don't agree with. right. you know, we're talking about, you know, some of the reforms ideas about wanting to only hire british and, you know, having this tax where they focus on hiring british. i don't really know what that means. and that's a dangerous kind of rhetoric we don't want to get into, because actually the country has relied on diversity for a long time. we've got, you know, lots of the nhs rely on on immigrants. i don't really understand where this higher british comes from. so that's what i mean by far right. >> wasn't it gordon brown though, just very quickly running out of time. that said british jobs for british workers. was it gordon brown labour party came up with that? >> i don't think there's anything wrong with a political party saying things like, we want to invest in skills for british people and actually be self—reliant when it comes to the labour force that we need in order to sustain our economy. i don't think there's anything far right about that at all in saying, actually, we need to get british people off welfare and into work. we need to get

british people healthier so they are well enough to work. i don't think that is far right rhetoric. alex. i think it is reasonable rhetoric, which is why we hear all political leaders, whether it is rishi sunak, nigel farage or keir starmer, speaking about things that i have just described . that i have just described. >> but when he says british first, what does that mean ? first, what does that mean? >> what do you mean? who said british first? as in farage was talking about wanting to hire british first, you know, almost penalising companies that wouldn't hire british people. >> but i don't know what that means. you know, look, i think i think the policy idea that they had to have a higher tax on immigrant workers to encourage companies to use native talent. >> if you will, is economically illiterate because it's actually going to increase costs for businesses and increase burdens for businesses, and actually makes the united kingdom a less , makes the united kingdom a less, a less competitive place for international businesses to invest. from a capitalist perspective, it's a bad idea . perspective, it's a bad idea. >> unfortunately, gentlemen, we are running out of time. mr farage, for his part, has

repeatedly suggested he would not wish to join the conservatives, saying the party is dead. now i'm dawn neesom and this is gb news saturday and there's loads more coming up on today's really packed show, now england must improve if they are to win their first european championship and things are starting to get serious. it's the quarter finals coming up 5:00 today. and the question everyone wants to know, is it coming home? all of that. and much more. this is gb news britain's news channel. don't you dare go far. see you

soon. oh, hey. welcome back. it's gb news saturday. dawn neesom on your telly. online and on digital radio. hope you're having a wonderful weekend out there. football. we're talking football now. england must improve if they are to win their first european championship. and things are starting to get serious in the quarter finals. having needed extra time to get past slovakia, a country of 5.5 million people, gareth southgate

has reportedly been working on a new formation to tackle switzerland. all right. okay, but the questions on everyone's lips is it coming home the trophy, not the team. by the way , trophy, not the team. by the way, joining me is news gb news reporter jack carson, who is actually lucky. you are in germany . jack. what's it like? germany. jack. what's it like? you're having fun . you're having fun. >> guten tag. dorn. well, welcome to dusseldorf . where? welcome to dusseldorf. where? england, of course. play their quarterfinal tonight against switzerland. i just want to show you really how many thousands and thousands of england fans of switzerland fans are all here at the moment enjoying a drink , the moment enjoying a drink, enjoying themselves. it really is quite a special atmosphere, but you do raise the right question. dawn, is it coming home? i mean, there's no better people to ask than a big england fan who out is out here in germany as well. andrew, you've been here in germany, now it's your second time. >> i think it's my second trip here, you know. >> yeah. is it coming home? >> yeah. is it coming home? >> i also met the best thing tonight. just get the win . get

tonight. just get the win. get through semi—final , just win the through semi—final, just win the game and that's what we have to do. >> i mean, what do you make of this back three that gareth southgate's been flirting with saka and trent alexander—arnold as wingback. >> the back three today right. it's the back three. you've got the two wing backs. go for the game. just attack. we have to get through tonight i don't care how we play this knockout football , we have to just get football, we have to just get through and win the game. >> win mark gay is obviously suspended because of picking up too many young. >> have we lost jack there ? no. >> have we lost jack there? no. okay. oh, no i think we've lost jack there. and just talking to the fans who are getting ready for tonight's game. england are obviously playing. who are they playing? i'll be switzerland. >> oh what are you like? >> oh what are you like? >> yay woo i can listen. >> yay woo i can listen. >> and what formation should we be playing. >> oh i'm not sure. >>— >> oh i'm not sure. >> i think there are 11 players on a football team and there is a goalkeeper and some strikers. >> some midfielders, and they should all be in the formation

that they need to be in to win. >> brilliant. >> brilliant. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> two or the christmas tree formation christmas foot tree . formation christmas foot tree. sorry i don't know what you're laughing for. let's go ask you to explain the offside rule because nobody understood nobody. >> nobody understands , least of >> nobody understands, least of all the players. >> i mean, but i mean, it is nice to have, you know, we've all been through the election. we've come out the other side, but it is a bit like it's like this is our reward. i mean, hopefully it's our reward. hopefully we win. but it's like it feels like and breathe. it's like a bit of a nice relief . like a bit of a nice relief. >> no i agree you know watching football is far more interesting than most people watching. you know, the press conference, and hopefully, you know, he does bnng hopefully, you know, he does bring it home, you know, hopefully he doesn't wing it again and actually uses all his subs because that's what they're there for, you know, are you feeling confident. not after how we played against slovakia. i'll be honest. i actually think, you know i know we heard from the fan about just attacking, you know, we've got to we've got a very good squad. he's got to utilise it. he's always afraid to make substitutions. you know, you've got a massive bench of talent by the way. use them and

don't be afraid. and stop saying we felt this. you're the manager. take responsibility and make the subs you want to make. >> oh well you will be watching it though, won't you? >> i tend to get into football when england is playing in international competitions. after the semi—final. i'm very much. i'm a huge glory hunter when it comes to football and i think a lot of us are. >> so look, i hope we beat switzerland this afternoon. is it happening this afternoon? >> it is because then i can really get into it because then we'll be in the semi—final. that's right. i only watch. so. so look, i'm excited because we might actually get the semi—final and then i can really get into the alb is excited. >> i'm going to leave you hanging on that one. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday, and, don't go anywhere. loads more coming up. but first, it's the all important weather. weather here with catherine, not germany. i'm sure it's lovely out there. might be rain though. here's catherine with the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .

solar sponsors of weather on. gb. news >> hello! welcome to your gb news. weather update from the met office this weekend is sunny spells for some of us. scattered showers around but still feeling cool. we've got low pressure generally in charge that's moving its way eastwards and northwesterly winds giving that cool feel for the time of year. so through this afternoon, any showers gradually easing later on. so turning dry across parts of england in towards the south—east but showers still continuing across parts of scotland and northern ireland before further showers come in from the south—west. temperatures tonight, though under the clear, spells 10 or 11 degrees, but feeling fresher across parts of rural scotland. so to start sunday morning there will be some dry and brighter weather around, especially across eastern parts, to start the day, but further towards the southwest we've got a focus for some heavy showers moving in from the south, heavy at times with the odd rumble of thunder and coming in to north western

parts of england as well. northern ireland seeing a few showers as well just into coastal areas, but across parts of scotland a little bit drier with plenty of sunshine. just some rain coming into orkney and shetland to start the day. so as we go through sunday, showers continuing but actually becoming more widespread as we go through into the afternoon. heavy at times containing the odd rumble of thunder two across scotland. dry here with some sunny spells and lighter winds. for many of us as well, so that will help with the temperatures giving a slightly warmer feel. where you do catch any sunshine and across parts of scotland, temperatures recovering up around 215 degrees sunday evening. then we'll start to see showers, a fading away, turning drier with some late evening sunshine, but another area of low pressure is coming in towards the southwest. so as we go into monday, tuesday and wednesday, wednesday generally unsettled but temperatures may be recovering just slightly. >> that warm feeling inside from

boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news >> thank you very much , >> thank you very much, catherine. didn't sound too bad though, did it? now there is lots more coming up on today's show. sir keir starmer has given his first press conference since becoming prime minister. we'll bnng becoming prime minister. we'll bring you up to date on everything he had to say. all of that and much more to come. this is gb news britain's news channel that you dare go to. far loads to

away . okay. hi and welcome to gb away. okay. hi and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm dawn neesom. for the next hour. i'll be keeping you company on telly, onune keeping you company on telly, online and on digital radio. keep you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. before we go on to what's coming up, though, just a quickie. earlier we were talking to jack carson live out in

dorset for the england game, and someone may or may not have made a rude hand gesture. so if you did see that and you were upset, apologies . you know, it might apologies. you know, it might have been a v for victory. who knows? in any case, coming up this hour, sir keir starmer has given his first press conference since becoming prime minister we'll bring you up to date on everything our commander in chief had to say. then boris johnson blames the pied piper. nigel farage role he played in the destruction of the tories, as he warns the conservative party to avoid merging with reform uk and offers advice on how to fix the party. is he right , though, and away from the right, though, and away from the election? please god, england must improve if they are to win their first european championship and things are starting to get serious in the quarterfinals and the question everybody wants to know is it coming . everybody wants to know is it coming. home? everybody wants to know is it coming . home? that's the trophy, coming. home? that's the trophy, not the team, by the way. team

needs stay out there. just a hint, right? okay. but this show is nothing without you and your views. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today by visiting remembered on gb news.com. forward slash yourself and join the conversation or message me on our socials @gbnews. but first it's the news headunes @gbnews. but first it's the news headlines with a very frisky ray addison . addison. >> crikey! 2:01. our top stories from the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's plans to send migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried . speaking now dead and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to deport a single one. he also said labour's election victory has given them a, quote, clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the uk . corners of the uk. >> look, the rwanda scheme was dead and buried before it started. it's never been a deterrent, look at the numbers

that have come over in the first six and a bit months of this year. six and a bit months of this year . they are record numbers. year. they are record numbers. thatis year. they are record numbers. that is the problem that we are inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent , inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent, almost the opposite, because everybody has worked out, particularly the gangs that run this, that the chance of ever going to rwanda was so slim, less than 1. >> well, the leader of reform uk nigel farage not overly surprised. he's claiming labour will struggle to deal with the issue of illegal immigration. what? he said he would do it. >> at least he's kept a promise, i suppose. >> look, rwanda was never going to work. what keir starmer is proposing , which is, you know, proposing, which is, you know, tackle the gangs well , frankly, tackle the gangs well, frankly, you know, the last government were doing that for the last few years. it's not going to work at the minute. it's wild and windy, but we do have some pretty strong first hand accounts that as soon as we get a calm spell, they'll be crossing the english channelin they'll be crossing the english channel in their thousands. and

let's face it, keir starmer does not have a plan to deal with it. >> former chancellor jeremy hunt >> former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership. when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat, godalming and ash and has previously tried twice to become conservative leader . become conservative leader. meanwhile, suella braverman has failed to rule herself out, simply saying there were no announcements . police in announcements. police in tenerife say jay slater's family can bring in their own search and rescue teams to look for the missing teenager. the 19 year old went missing on the 17th of june after setting off on a walk back to his accommodation in tenerife. that was a journey which would have taken him around 11 hours. police called off the official search last week, but jay slater's mother says they will stay on the island to look for him . well, in island to look for him. well, in the us, president biden is refusing to take a cognitive test to determine if he's in

mental decline in an exclusive interview with abc news anchor george stephanopoulos, he also dismissed calls from some democrats to step aside and let a younger candidate take on republican donald trump. biden's been attempting to defuse the political crisis over his shaky debate performance. he claims he simply had a bad night. >> he had the specific cognitive tests . and have you had tests. and have you had a neurologist or a specialist do an examination? >> no, no one said i had to. no one said. they said, i'm good. >> would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests and release the results to the american people? >> look, i have a cognitive test every single day. every day i have that test. everything i do . have that test. everything i do. >> the government has announced a new support package for canbbean a new support package for caribbean countries affected by the destruction of hurricane beryl. new foreign secretary david lammy has increased funding up to £500,000. the

money will be used to help those whose homes and livelihoods have been impacted by the cat five hurricane. that aid package also includes hundreds of emergency shelter kits capable of supporting up to 4000 people, while the prince of wales is set to attend england's clash against switzerland later in the euros quarterfinals. the prince, who is also president of the fa, will be cheering on gareth southgate's side in dusseldorf as they hope to secure a place in the semis. spain knocked out hosts germany with a dramatic extra time winner, while france beat portugal on penalties last night. kick off this evening, 5 pm. okay those are the latest p.m. okay those are the latest gb news headlines. for now. i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray. and he is very frisky and i love the way he says crikey, don't you? so very ray. now let's get stuck into today's topics. now, prime minister keir starmer has been setting out his vision for a changed government. speaking to the press in number 10 downing street, he promised to do things differently. >> we're a changed labour party and yesterday we started the work of changing the country. and as the dust settles on thursday's result, what is becoming clear for all to see is the mood of the nation, of the country , what is expected of us country, what is expected of us and the mandate that we have to deliver change. it's a mandate not to just govern, although it is certainly that, but it's a mandate that has put trust in us to change the country and to deliver. and it's a mandate to do politics differently. and that change started yesterday as

well . well. >> if you actually had change on your labour party bingo card, there , you've just got a full there, you've just got a full house, by the way. and he did also mention his wife work for the nhs, but he didn't mention what his dad did for a living. i'm not quite sure any of us know that anyway, so join me now is someone who was at that press conference, our political ednon conference, our political editor, christopher chopper, who has been working around the clock for us. we're still bouncing around with excitement. mr hope, how did you find how was it for you, dear ? was it for you, dear? >> well, we met there with the pm and hello , dawn again in the pm and hello, dawn again in the in the state dining room of number 10, not in the briefing room created by boris johnson, where they announced all those the covid pandemic, measures , the covid pandemic, measures, which is for many people is such a difficult memory for us. i wonder whether that's a commitment to change from the old tory government. i think the idea had been to have this press conference in the rose garden outside number 10. but of course the weather is so grim at the moment. they had to have it inside. and so where there we

were and we heard, i think the biggest news there was, he said, the prime minister, that the rwanda plan is dead and buried. so far, £270 million of our money spent on this sunk into rwanda and kigali, a receiving place for migrants being deported from this country. there that has gone. we expect to hear more shortly from, from the government about that. of course, there are break clauses . course, there are break clauses. so if they do exit now, they cannot spend therefore, £100 million in 2025, 2026 on the scheme. and the pm also gave an idea of the busyness of his government. he said how he wants to put the economic economy at the heart of what the cabinet does. the cabinet, of course, met this morning at 11 am. until 12 pm. he's given them very clear instructions to get on with growing the economy. they want to grow the economy and then that will give them more space for the kind of agenda the labour government wants to pursue. he's establishing five mission boards. dawn, keep up at the

back, please. this is a boards to set up and ensure that you have a degree of direction on the five missions that the tory, the five missions that the tory, the labour government set itself. the keir starmer will chair those boards to drive forward and ensure that they do deliver on the manifesto. he told his civil servants dawn, to call him keir or prime minister, but not sir keir, which is that's how he is. he doesn't like the knighthood in terms of being used all the time. he is very proud of it. he received the knighthood when he was made sir keir starmer. after some time as the dpp, the director of pubuc time as the dpp, the director of public prosecutions in 2014. but he said call me keir or call me prime minister he started on a four nation tour of the uk starting tomorrow england, scotland, wales, northern ireland. he claimed he has a mandate as prime minister for all of those different nations. on tuesday's meeting with the metro mayors and on monday he's meeting with or trying to talking to at least all of the

devolved leaders in the country. and as we know, he flies away to nato, to washington, the nato summit on tuesday. elsewhere on the wes streeting comments about the wes streeting comments about the national health service, he called it raw honesty from mr streeting supporting him, saying that the nhs , nhs is broken. he that the nhs, nhs is broken. he wouldn't go further on the issue of paying migrants, paying, paying of paying migrants, paying, paying benefits to families with more than two children, and he seemed to support his new prisons minister, james timpson, of course, who said he was recorded saying to telling channel 4 on a podcast that he believes that a third , only believes that a third, only a third of prisoners should definitely be in prison. so that's where we got to, sadly , that's where we got to, sadly, he didn't feel able to take a question from gb news. i had all sorts of questions, including your question about only a third of the country voted for you, keir starmer, but he didn't want to call gb news this time. he called five other broadcasters before us. >> chris, just very quickly, we're running out of time on fortune. i'm sure you want to

get somewhere dry, you've covered loads of these press conferences with various politicians of all different persuasions, as have i. were you satisfied with how he performed today ? today? >> yeah, i thought i was , >> yeah, i thought i was, actually. i think he gave full answers to everything. he didn't dodge away from anything. his some of his team hung around afterwards to brief journalists. i thought it was a very fair briefing. i think he basically we haven't heard virtually anything, anything at all about the future plans for this government. they wouldn't talk about it before thursday. so i think to be fair to keir starmer , think to be fair to keir starmer, he gave a fair account of what his plans is. he gave an idea of action, lots of travel plans, putting the economy at the heart of his mission in government. and here we go. five more years of this dawn. >> oh, chris, i hope it stops raining at some point for you. five years of rain and you'll shrivel up to nothing. mr hope, live from downing street. there thank you very much. please do go and get warm and dry. i think you deserve putting your feet up and have a nice cup of tea somewhere. right, that was christopher hope. so, with our

new prime minister's first ever press conference live from downing street. let's see what my panel make of this. downing street. let's see what my panel make of this . this my panel make of this. this houn my panel make of this. this hour, i'm joined by the host of the saturday five, darren grimes and political commentator matthew stadlen . thank you very matthew stadlen. thank you very much for joining matthew stadlen. thank you very much forjoining me on such a momentous afternoon. gentlemen. we've had our, prime minister's first first press conference and answering a few questions. and obviously we've got football coming up, i'm going to come to you first, matthew, because you're staring at me with that look, you often give me. what did you make of what you heard, keir starmer, we can call him keir. keir starmer today. >> this is my first opportunity. thank you for having me to respond on gb news a channel which i often come on and you're more than welcome. i'm delighted to be here. >> your part. >> your part. >> get on with it. i'm furious with starmer. oh yeah, i think he's failed already. the british weather has not improved since he became prime minister, and he lied about working on friday night because he quite clearly worked on a friday night. >> and he's also working on saturday. he didn't lie. >> he didn't lie. no, no i this is my so there's no election to

win at the moment. not for another 4 or 5 years. and i always gave my honest take anyway. but let's sort of leave party affiliations aside just for a moment . party affiliations aside just for a moment. i've party affiliations aside just for a moment . i've actually been for a moment. i've actually been pleasantly surprised because i never pretended that starmer had much charisma. i don't think that was his strong point. no, and i don't think he inspires people, particularly perhaps in not in the way that, say, a tony blair figure managed to and for a, for a certain bunch that bons a, for a certain bunch that boris johnson did for a while. so i was reassured that the way he seemed to me, and i didn't see all of the press conferences coming in, seemed to me so at home, being prime minister, he seemed relaxed. he seemed calm. he seemed sort of in in charge of his brief already. and importantly, and i, christopher chris mentioned this, he alluded to it. and i hope this continues. he did really seem to engage with questions. he also made it very clear and it's in his interest to do so that things are at a pretty low ebb.

and why is that in his interest to do so? first of all, in my view, it's reality. but also because it gives him a little bit of space to start building this country back up again. and i'll just say one more thing for the moment, if i may. i'll just say one more thing for the moment, if i may . what wes the moment, if i may. what wes streeting has said for me is the most interesting thing that has come out of government since the election. and why is it interesting? it's interesting because he didn't just say that the nhs is broken and that's no slight to the vast number of hard working, highly skilled people, from hospital porters to consultants who try their best to make our lives better and make us healthy. he didn't just say it was broken, he said that the fact that it is broken is now government policy and that means if we're to take him at his word , that there is real his word, that there is real change on the way in the nhs, what form that takes, we'll have to wait and see. but only a labour health secretary. i think, could say on day 1 or 2 of office that our beloved nhs

is broken. if a tory had said it, there's just no world in which a conservative would have said exactly, and wes streeting did did say this before the election as well, didn't he? >> he did say he did. >> he did say he did. >> you know, he said, don't treat it as a sacred thing. it is a service cult. >> yeah. darren, what did you make of it? i mean, i you know, it is fair to say that keir starmer is not the most scintillating speaker in the entire world. it's certainly not a boris johnson, no matter what you think of their politics, or even nigel farage. but what did you make of what you heard him actually say? >> i mean, i was really struck by the way, in which i think and i'm not in the middle of contract negotiations , i contract negotiations, i promise. but i actually think gb news is going to be such an important outlet during this period. the next five years, because the issues like net zero dawn and issues like, talking about what they might do in northern ireland in relation to our relationship with the eu unionist communities are really quite concerned about someone like hilary benn, who is now northern ireland secretary. and by the way, it's really strange

actually watching labour ministers walk up the number 10 up to the number 10 door, because we've not been used to it for such a long time. that's true. but there is a real issue here, i think, of scrutiny because i think there are far too many within the media who are going on in the most sort of glorifying, sycophantic way. well i find it absolutely vile, i must say so far, because it certainly has never happened with a conservative government so i think this channel is going to be an incredibly important voice. and all i can say is, john, you look marvellous in blue. so thankfully someone's wearing blue. thank you very much . much. >> it's not this isn't political, by the way. it's just blue's turn today. all right. >> on darren's point on opposition. i think you make a good one. as you know , i do not good one. as you know, i do not identify with a lot of what comes out of gb news, which is one of the reasons why i'm here. pushing back against it and have beenin pushing back against it and have been in recent years. but i do think it has an important voice because i believe and i fundamentally disagree with a lot of what nigel farage says.

and stands for. but there is an argument to be made that he can hold the mainstream parties now largely labour to account on issues that clearly do matter to a proportion of the british population, and while we're talking about opposition, which might seem a strange thing to say when labour has just won a landslide, but it does matter. yes democracy, of course it does. and i am concerned because the tories and i've spent the last however many years trying to get them out of office and don't regret a second of it, but they are down to 121 seats. that is 44 fewer i worked out than they had in 1997, after tony blair's landslide. how on earth they provide an effective opposition, but also build themselves back into a party of government in five years? i don't know. and that is not to say that the electorate isn't volatile. for goodness sake, we swung exactly from one landslide five years ago to a landslide entirely in a different direction. a couple of days ago.

but to build back from 121 is really tough. >> i was going to say. i mean, you know, the combined vote of the big two, i.e. labour and conservative, is 57. in 2010 it was 65. yeah. people are losing faith in the big two parties. i mean , yeah, it is a landslide. mean, yeah, it is a landslide. labour won with a landslide, but they've got, one third of the vote. absolutely. the vote was like 59% turnout. >> and britain is a country, i think, which is already voting in a way in which is more european than it is. what is stereotypically british, traditionally british, where voting in a way in which suggests that we already have pr instead of first past the post and the two main parties. you know, sir keir starmer didn't secure a bigger share of the vote than jeremy corbyn. jeremy corbyn did much right. there isn't this massive mandate for him. it actually was a case that that conservative voters either stayed at home or they went to reform. right. so the conservative party obviously has a lot of soul searching to do. but i actually agree with

matthew. i think actually five years is a long time in this environment, and a lot can happen with very febrile times. a lot can change in that period. >> within those 121 mps to find a leader and a leadership team, as well as kemi badenoch is great. >> i think she has real talent. >> i think she has real talent. >> she may have talent whether she's the person to lead the tories out of the doldrums. i'm not sure it is. you're right. astonishing. >> but matthew, you wouldn't have said that about sir keir starmer five years ago. you wouldn't have said, oh, i think he's the one to lead us to this massive majority, would you? >> i'm not sure. and i don't think that's fair. i'd have to look back at my notes from five years ago, and he has done an extraordinary job from a base of 200 mp5 extraordinary job from a base of 200 mps to now having 411 or whatever it is. but on your corbyn point, it is fascinating because it's not just that starmer's labour won 3 million fewer votes than corbyn did in 2017, which is mind boggling when you think about it, when you think of the attacks on corbyn. i didn't vote for corbyn, but the attacks on on on corbyn, but the attacks on on on

corbyn by those in the right wing media, but also that he won fewer votes than labour under corbyn did last time round and that was the worst defeat in terms of seats that labour had suffered in 84 years. so you're right to point out to something happening in our demographic, what i would say, and i do think that this is worth mentioning, if you combine the tory vote and reform vote, and admittedly, i'm sure some people on the right stayed at home. but if you combine those two, those two on the right, in other words, right wing british policies, they only got 38. yeah, but that is the key point though is staying home politics, staying home. >> funny enough , we are talking >> funny enough, we are talking about this more after the break, but if you want to escape, i'm going to tell you how you can do so, because we've got a great british giveaway and it's your chance to win the biggest cash prize so far, an incredible £30,000. and it's totally tax free. so far, which means you'll get the lot to do whatever you like with. and here's all the details you need of to how win it. >> summer could be a scorcher with your chance to win £30,000

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could you do with that? i'll give you a cracking summer, wouldn't it, i'm dawn neesom and this is gb news saturday. i hope you're having a lovely weekend by the way, there is lots more coming up on today's show, now, bons coming up on today's show, now, boris johnson blames pied piper. nigel farage for the role he played in the destruction of the tories, as he warns the tories to avoid merging with reform uk and offers advice on how to fix the conservative party. is he right, though all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel and you've just got time to put the kettle on or grab a beer. football coming

well, we've got that nice kettle, that nice cup of tea in front of you. or maybe that cold been front of you. or maybe that cold beer. this is gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your telly, online, on digital. and we hope you're having a cracking weekend out there. now boris johnson blames pied piper and nigel farage for the role he

played in the destruction of the tories. the former prime minister has also warned the conservatives to avoid merging with reform , saying when we get with reform, saying when we get back in, don't be too hasty to get rid of successful election winning leaders. i wonder who's talking about that. i want to know, is he right though? oh, i can't remember who went first last time, gentlemen, it was right. okay let's come to you first. so darren grimes and matthew stratton are both still with me, darren, should they should the conservatives get in bed with reform? would that help both parties? >> do you know, i turned to bons >> do you know, i turned to boris johnson as someone who campaigned for him in 2019. i was delighted. i cried when my home seat in county durham went for blue the very first time in its history, and i say to him right now, how dare you say that, boris? how dare you say that? we have all been led down the garden path by the pied piper, nigel farage, as if we're all sort of demented idiots that don't know our own minds. so i would actually say to that he

had this golden opportunity in 2019, the red wall said to him, we're going to put our trust in a tory. we've never done that before. this is your golden opportunity, sunny jim, to make the most of it and actually manage to keep onside voters who have turned their faces up, scrunched into a little ball at the idea of voting conservative. for as long as i've been on this planet, longer than that . so for planet, longer than that. so for him to turn around now and blame nigel farage when we have been utterly betrayed by that 2019 mandate, they didn't deliver on the net migration promises that they pledged to do, so they didn't stop the boats. there were a whole slew of things in which brexit gave us the power to be able to change this country for the better, not in this meaningless guff that we hear from sir keir starmer. actual tools to change the country and make things unrecognisable from what they were within the eu, like . well,

were within the eu, like. well, being able to leave the echr, for example, being able to actually control net migration from free movement of people, which of course we did. but now we've said to everyone, bring your every tom, dick and harry, your every tom, dick and harry, you want over with you whilst you're studying at university and all the rest of it, we've become a clown show. this is the circus on thursday night i presented with patrick and, and michelle dewberry on this very channel, and we were at the circus tavern in essex. i tell you what, dawn , we're in for one you what, dawn, we're in for one hell of a circus right now, and i blame in part boris johnson for that , not nigel farage. for that, not nigel farage. >> strong words, very strong. what do you make of it, matthew? >> i'm relieved that instead of commanding an 80 seat majority, as he did five years ago, four and a half years ago in 2019, bons and a half years ago in 2019, boris johnson is now confined to wild ranting in the daily mail. that's a good thing. i think looking at the way that labour and starmer can be challenged, i think is fascinating. we started

talking about that earlier on and to my mind, a key if not the key question is in what direction does what remains of the conservative party go? i don't think nigel farage will take it over from inside. >> to be fair , nigel farage has >> to be fair, nigel farage has repeatedly suggested it would not wish to join the conservatives, saying the party is dead and the question is do they go to the hard right or do they go to the hard right or do they stay in the centre? >> i think , and i'm not a >> i think, and i'm not a conservative and i don't want them to win the next election. i think they would be better placed to be in the centre. i think that's where british elections have been won traditionally, and even though corbyn won more votes than starmer's labour, he suffered a disastrous defeat. starmer's campaign was actually highly effective. i think in terms of what's happening on the right, you've got to look back to 2015. ukip in 2015, under the stewardship of nigel farage, actually won almost as many votes as they won in this election. they won almost 3.9 million votes. this time they

won about 4.1 million votes. so that constituency of people on the harder right in this country have always been here over the past decade. it's not the question. the question, the question. the question, the question is whether they can grow their former labour vote leadership. now he's an mp, whether it can grow between now and the next. >> you know, i am still confused by what hard right. actually means. i mean, there are some that say that the conservative party was too centrist. it was too middle of the road. it wasn't. and why did reform only get 4 million votes? it's not a bad number of votes, but compared to the other party, i mean, if you're saying that the tory party should have been harder to the right, i mean, i'm not saying that. i'm just saying there are lots of people that would say the conservative party were too middle of the road . and were too middle of the road. and thatis were too middle of the road. and that is why. darren. >> well, in 2019, they won an election. and that i assume you would have said that boris johnson's brexit government was hard, right? >> i think boris johnson i hard, right? >> i think borisjohnson i don't >> i think boris johnson i don't think boris johnson ever really

knew what he was. well, this is just an instinctively anti—immigration, was he? i certainly don't think, boris, i think he well evidently not. no third things. i think he, i think he disgraced public office. i wouldn't describe him as it's an absurdity. >> there were former labour voters, right. my family, all of them. dawn former labour voters. i come from a family where my grandfather was a miner. i grew up around a massive steelworks in consett. not a toolmaker, not a toolmaker , used tools, but not a toolmaker, used tools, but not a toolmaker, used tools, but not a toolmaker. and actually they all voted reform this time around. i don't think they're all hard, right? right. they're cultural conservatives, which actually use for people who are . actually use for people who are. >> we're not allowed to use the far right anymore, apparently. what what language can we use for people on the right of the conservative party? >> i think they are culturally conservative people who are economically sensible, who don't want us to march off and have david lammy as foreign secretary and all these other things that make us look like a clown country. the man is a clown. he is ignorant, serious. oh please , is ignorant, serious. oh please, operator, who has been he's an

identity politics obsessed moron, has now won a comprehensive landslide victory. >> this targeting of david lammy is pathetic. let's wait. well, i'll target other people if you want wes streeting on the government website this morning. >> fortunately, you can target who you want. oh, come on, you're not. you're they them. >> they and them serious . >> they and them serious. >> they and them serious. >> it says they them on his profile . okay, gentlemen. profile. okay, gentlemen. >> gentlemen, please , we can >> gentlemen, please, we can come back to this subject after the break, but i'm dawn neesom, mr gb news. i'm running out of time. but there is loads more coming up, including more of this debate, so. but first, i think it's ray addison not quite as frisky, but, you know, let's find out. here's the headlines. >> i've been smacked with a ruler. 233 our top stories, sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's plans to send migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried . speaking is now dead and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister

ruled out the controversial scheme, which would fail to deport a single one. he also said labour's election victory has given them a, quote, clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the uk . well, former corners of the uk. well, former chancellor jeremy corners of the uk. well, former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled chancellor jeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership. when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat of godalming and ash and has previously tried twice to become conservative leader . to become conservative leader. police in tenerife say jay slater's family can bring in their own search and rescue teams to look for the missing teenagen teams to look for the missing teenager. the 19 year old went missing on the 17th of june, after setting off on a walk back to his accommodation in tenerife, a journey which would have taken around 11 hours. police called off the official search last week, but jay slater's mother says they will stay on the island to look for him . the government has him. the government has announced a new support package for caribbean countries affected by the destruction of hurricane

beryl. new foreign secretary david lammy has increased funding up to 500 k. the money will be used to help those whose homes and livelihoods have been impacted by the cat five hurricane. the prince of wales is set to attend england's clash against switzerland later in the euros quarter finals. the prince, who is also the president of the fa, will be cheering on gareth southgate's side in dusseldorf as they hope to secure a place in the semis. spain knocked out hosts germany with a dramatic extra time winner, while france beat portugal on penalties last night. kick for off england 5 pm. okay, those are the latest p.m. okay, those are the latest gb news headlines. for now. i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much. and by the way, the voice is in my head. have just said to ray, sorry, you can escape now. quick, make a make a run for it. thanks very much boys. right okay. but there is plenty more coming up. >> there's a big row going on. well, there was a big get out of the heat on. >> cool your jets. you right. there is plenty more coming up on today's show, possibly even including matthew stadlen. but before i tell you what we've got lined up, nana akua has joined me in the studio and nana, what's coming up on your show today? >> matt stadler and up to his old tricks again. dawn, i know he's lucky he's not on with me, but listen , coming up now, but listen, coming up now, i don't know if you were listening, but if you're listening, but if you're listening really closely in that press conference, you will nofice press conference, you will notice that there was no question from gb news keir starmer in that particular press conference, his first as prime minister said that he was asked what he would do if he's going to, how is he going to govern people who may not have voted for him or people who voted for him for the first time? well, our viewers showed incredible support for keir starmer, which was quite interesting. yet it

was. yet we were omitted. so i found that odd and slightly concerning. so we're going to be talking about that. i've got a roundtable discussion. bill rammell ben habib will be there and a few others will be discussing that and other things. plus, coming up, i'm asking, is it time for us to reform the electoral system? if you look what happened, the liberal democrats got 72 seats on 3.5 million votes, yet reform got 4 million votes and only a handful, we'll be looking at that. plus, britain's most tattooed woman will be in the studio. and a little spoiler from her. she made her parents cry at age 15, when she tattooed her boyfriend's name on an intimate area of her body. i think she's coming up. >> oh, that sounds a cracking show. and that lady has got tattoos in places i didn't even want to think about. nana akua. with a cracking show coming up. so you don't want to miss that. now, remember , let us know your now, remember, let us know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation or message me on our socials. we're @gbnews now.

there is loads more coming up on today's show. it's absolutely packed. sir keir starmer has reportedly killed off the rwanda deportation plan on the very first day of his premiership, but is this the right move for a government who claim immigration is their top priority? all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you're with gb news, britain's news channel. don't go too far.

hello. welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. now sir keir starmer. or just call me keir, starmer. orjust call me keir, as he says these days. says rishi sunak's plans to send migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to deport a single migrant. two

went voluntarily, though, didn't they ? right, okay, i you might they? right, okay, i you might have noticed because they're very loud, aren't they? still got my panel with me. wake up. matthew stadlen and darren grimes. thank you very much for hanging around. all right. >> you've taken the momentum. we were just getting into the swing of our punches. >> i can't, i can't actually tell you what we were discussing in the break from a bit of light relief, so rwanda, right? dead in the water. matthew, i'm going to come keep it crisp and sexy and full of impact. right. don't go on and on and on. rwanda. deadin go on and on and on. rwanda. dead in the water. >> awful policy, morally repugnant, completely impractical. wasn't going to solve what is a real problem. none of us want to see these boats coming. thank goodness it's gone. one of the main reasons that i was delighted that this tory government has gone , the problem i have with it, gone, the problem i have with it, darren, is keir starmer hasn't explained what he's going to do instead. >> all right. smash the gangs. border force commander. >> we've not tried that one before. >> we have a border force commander. >> exactly. so also, i think it's interesting that people like matthew say, oh, the rwanda policy, the most awful thing,

sort of symptomatic of a really horrible , hard, right government horrible, hard, right government and all these other things . now and all these other things. now europe are looking at that rwanda scheme and they're saying, oh, do you know what that could work. i'm quite liking this. i think i'll copy that. liking this. i think i'll copy that . so how liking this. i think i'll copy that. so how is it liking this. i think i'll copy that . so how is it that we've that. so how is it that we've managed to find ourselves in a position where europe is now considered, or should be considered, or should be considered, if we judge them by the policies that they quite like? the sound of more hard right than the uk, which is supposed to be this brexit wasteland. >> and i don't know which european countries in particular you're talking about, because europe isn't just a big lump . europe isn't just a big lump. but secondly, if you expect me to be some sort of spokesperson for europe, i'm not. i'm interested first and foremost in what happens in our country , our what happens in our country, our own decency, our own self dignity . and we have to put dignity. and we have to put pressure. of course , on this pressure. of course, on this labour government. we have to scrutinise them. we have to hold them to account. starmer hasn't made any great promise that he's going to bring these numbers down what he has, because he

won't smash the gangs, and i hope that he does smash the gangs because these are very, very bad people exploiting extremely vulnerable people who should not be risking their lives on the channel. time will tell whether he's going to be successful. but one thing we know, and that is that rwanda wasn't working this year , was on wasn't working this year, was on schedule and may still be on schedule and may still be on schedule to be the busiest year on record of people coming across the channel to this country in 2023. >> dawn. there were a big percentage of indians, people from india who were coming over on small boats. now, to me, india is a country that has a space programme. it's not a country that has massively vulnerable populations. you well you just you just said you just said these are vulnerable people coming here. they're not they're economic migrants that are coming here and your party are going to give them amnesty and say you can stay, no questions asked. come one, come all. britain's open and you're welcome . all the refugees welcome. all the refugees welcome. all the refugees welcome. yvette cooper tell me what i want. well, the labour party, you've just said one at a

time. >> sorry, darren. finish your point. >> the labour party yvette cooperis >> the labour party yvette cooper is now home secretary. right she stood with that refugees welcome, lanyard. looking like a cheshire cat with a grin wider than goodness. only knows what. and i think actually the labour party are not serious about this. they don't have a plan on it. dawn because they don't want to stop these things. they are not with the british people on this. >> you obviously weren't paying attention when yvette cooper was shadow home secretary. she takes these things extremely seriously. i don't know the context of which she held up that that placard, i remember it, but of course, a certain number of refugees, none of us in this studio can say exactly how many. but of course, some refugees are. and should be welcome in our great country, including, by the way, my grandparents, who were refugees. and if they let me finish, if they hadn't been welcomed to this country, i would not be here. let's just clear up this myth. people on my side of politics, certainly on the centre left , certainly our prime centre left, certainly our prime minister, certainly our home secretary , wants these boats to secretary, wants these boats to stop our are the people on the vote boats vulnerable to varying degrees? some, i'm sure, are

economic migrants. are they vulnerable? of course they're vulnerable? of course they're vulnerable because they're putting their lives at risk to get to this country. does that entitle them to come to this country? no. how are we going to stop the boats? not by rwanda. that wasn't working and it was immoral. let's hope. and also scrutinise starmer's attempt to smash the gangs. we'll soon find out in the next year whether he's succeeded to some extent or not. but this is a difficult problem. >> all i would say. >> all i would say. >> what's really interesting, dawn, is that during the time when the these migrants thought that the rwanda scheme was going to happen, they all went to ireland to try and actually claim refuge there. it was working. it was acting as a deterrent. i think the numbers are going to go up, the numbers are going to go up, the numbers are going to go up and labour don't have a plan on this because they don't want it to stop. they don't want it to stop. >> okay. well, feisty debate gentlemen. thank you very much. i'm dawn neesom i'm stuck in between these two. this is gb news saturday and there's loads more coming up on today's show. now let's talk football. england must improve if they are to win their first european championship, and things are starting to get serious in the

quarterfinals. and the question everyone wants to know is it coming home? all of that and much more to come. i'm not singing. don't worry, this is gb news, britain's news channel. get a beer but don't go too far.

welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your telly. online and on digital radio. now, england must improve if they are to win their first european championship. and things are starting to get serious in the quarterfinals. having needed extra time to get past slovakia, remember that gareth southgate has reportedly been working on a new formation to tackle switzerland. yes, but the questions on everybody's lips is it coming home? not the team, the trophy. we don't want the team coming home, just yet. now we unfortunately can't go

live to germany because we are having issues with the communications over there, so i'm going to have to communicate with my panel. i know, poor me. matthew stadlen and darren grimes are still with me and they are. luckily, for the first time today, i have two football fans with me. darren. >> yes you do . >> yes you do. >> yes you do. >> big football fan. yep. >> big football fan. yep. >> well, look, we were talking earlier and i think actually, you know, let's bring anthony gordon on. i think he's amazing. i do start him , but i actually i do start him, but i actually think this is the one form of leadership that we should have changed a while back. to be honest with you, dawn, i'm sorry the depressed viewers, but you know, i don't think it's coming home, sadly, but i hope we'd have a good innings tonight and i'm sure we will. you've got fabian share, though, in the swiss team, of course. he was a, i think a real defence powerhouse. very good. >> i mean, yeah, we always, always have switzerland. it's like we're saying, oh it's only turkey but they're actually very good. it's toblerone. >> get over. yeah, yeah. >> get over. yeah, yeah. >> we do not have a divine right to win these things. we sort of think we do because the premier league is very popular around the world, but it is a good team, though we do have we do have very, very good players.

exactly. yeah. let me make my defence of gareth southgate very briefly. go on. i was at the final when we lost on penalties to italy, spent far too much money, got covid, watched the chaos as coked up fans were streaming in it criminally. it was appalling . we scored the was appalling. we scored the goal and we then seemed to sit back and the result then felt like it was inevitable. why? because we'd sat back in the semi—final against croatia of the previous world cup and it felt to me like southgate perhaps hadn't learned that lesson. so i think there are. he has got some limitations. he's certainly not the perfect manager. we are playing boring football at the moment, yes, but and i went to the iceland game just before these championships. i thought, we don't have a chance.i i thought, we don't have a chance. i thought we had as much chance. i thought we had as much chance of winning the euros as the tories had of winning the election, and that worried me, obviously, because i desperately want us to win this tournament. but international football is incredibly hard. you look at teams like slovenia, slovakia, serbia, iceland as well. they are very well organised, like us. they desperately want to win

for their country. they know how to nick a goal. for their country. they know how to nick a goal . yeah, slovakia to nick a goal. yeah, slovakia actually have some decent players. yeah, yeah. and then they park the bus and they're very difficult to break down. plus when you have a one off game, a limited but well organised team as we know from, for example, the fa cup can cause trouble to a superior team, a team with superior talent or superior individuals. switzerland, as you correctly say, they're not only very well organised and they're playing three at the back with wing backs , but they also have backs, but they also have talent. the reason i have some hope today is because it looks like we are switching to three at the back ourselves, and i think most of our problems in the earlier rounds stemmed from our full backs. trippier, another newcastle player, was having to cut inside. it wasn't working. kyle walker's delivery, i don't think is good enough but he's a brilliant defender so stick kyle walker in a central three at the back. use his pace and his skill as a defender and then out wide you have alexander—arnold who's a good deliverer of a ball . don't lose deliverer of a ball. don't lose him in midfield. and then at the back you have saka. so then you

play back you have saka. so then you play with width and pace and then you have a chance. >> this is the problem, right? if everybody out here can see this right, why can't go south. >> well he is he's changing to it. >> yeah . apparently if the press >> yeah. apparently if the press are to be believed. yeah he is changing things tonight. but i mean, it's a little bit late now, isn't it? and i just feel like the momentum is totally gone.the like the momentum is totally gone. the wind is out of the sails. >> no, i think that last minute goal. goal >> bellingham last night though, that game last night, it started so with portugal and france it started off really boring and i thought, oh well, this is i had it on in the background preparing for today. and then all of a sudden the penalties . all of a sudden the penalties. it was amazing. that was an incredible bit of telly. and i thought, oh, i'm excited again by the euros. but i just don't. i just don't feel that the country is sort of we're not. i have never in my life as an england fan seen so few england flags. >> in fact, during this entire tournament i have not whistled. >> well, that's a whistle. >> well, that's a whistle. >> that'll be because labour are in power, don't you? if you're flying england flag, that's it, that's it. >> southgate is the most successful manager apart from

sir alf ramsey that we've ever had. >> okay, fine. right. i've been dawn neesom. this has been gb news saturday. hope you enjoy all the football if you're watching it. but don't go anywhere because, there's loads more coming up on gb news as well . nana more coming up on gb news as well. nana akua more coming up on gb news as well . nana akua next, more coming up on gb news as well. nana akua next, but more coming up on gb news as well . nana akua next, but let's well. nana akua next, but let's have the weather first. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office this weekend is sunny spells for some of us. scattered showers around but still feeling cool. we've got low pressure generally in charge that's moving its way eastwards and northwesterly winds, giving that cool feel for the time of year. so through this afternoon, any showers gradually easing later on. so turning dry across parts of england in towards the south—east but showers still continuing across parts of scotland and northern ireland before further showers come in from the south—west temperatures

tonight though under the clear , tonight though under the clear, spells 10 or 11 degrees but feeling fresher across parts of rural scotland. so to start sunday morning there will be some dry and brighter weather around, especially across eastern parts, to start the day , eastern parts, to start the day, but further towards the southwest. we've got a focus for some heavy showers moving in from the south, heavy at times with the odd rumble of thunder and coming in to north western parts of england as well . parts of england as well. northern ireland seeing a few showers as well, just into coastal areas, but across parts of scotland a little bit drier with plenty of sunshine. just some rain coming into orkney and shetland to start the day. so as we go through sunday, showers continuing but actually becoming more . widespread as we go more. widespread as we go through into the afternoon. heavy at times containing the odd rumble of thunder too across scotland. dry here with some sunnier spells and lighter winds for many of us as well, so that will help with the temperatures

giving a slightly warmer feel. where you do catch any sunshine and across parts of scotland, temperatures recovering up around 215 degrees. sunday evening. then we'll start to see showers a fading away , turning showers a fading away, turning dner showers a fading away, turning drier with some late evening sunshine. but another area of low pressure is coming in towards the southwest . so as we towards the southwest. so as we go into monday, tuesday and wednesday wednesday generally unsettled but temperatures may be recovering just slightly . be recovering just slightly. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on

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