be debating, yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza. in a few moments time i'll be mucking the week and of course we have a labour government. after 14 years of tory leadership, former mp scott benton will be joining me in the studio for my political spotlight and we'll be speaking about the proportional representation versus first past the post and what's going on . the post and what's going on. here. my difficult conversation today guest becky holt has been dubbed the most tattooed mum in britain. but before we get started, let's get your latest . news. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. 3:01. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories. sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's

plans to send migrants to rwanda are now dead and buried . are now dead and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to deport a single person. he also said labour's election victory has given them , election victory has given them, quote, a clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the uk . in all four corners of the uk. >> look, the rwanda scheme was dead and buried before it started. it's never been a deterrent , look at the numbers deterrent, look at the numbers that have come over in the first six and a bit months of this yeah six and a bit months of this year. they are record numbers . year. they are record numbers. thatis year. they are record numbers. that is the problem that we are inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent. almost the opposite , because everybody has opposite, because everybody has worked out, particularly the gangs that run this, that the chance of ever going to rwanda was so slim, less than 1. >> well, the leader of reform uk, nigel farage, not overly surprised by that. he's claiming, though, that labour

will struggle to deal with this issue of illegal immigration. >> what? he said he would do it. at least he's kept a promise, i suppose. look, rwanda was never going to work. what keir starmer is proposing , which is, you is proposing, which is, you know, tackle the gangs well , know, tackle the gangs well, frankly, you know, the last government were doing that for the last few years. it's not going to work at the minute. it's wild and windy. but we do have some pretty strong first hand accounts that as soon as we get a calm spell, they'll be crossing the english channel in their thousands. and let's face it, keir starmer does not have a plan to deal with it . plan to deal with it. >> former chancellor jeremy hunt >> former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership. when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat of godalming and ash and has previously tried twice to become tory leader. meanwhile, suella braverman has failed to rule herself out simply saying that there were no announcements. police in tenerife say jay slater's family

can bring in their own search and rescue teams to help look for the missing teenager. the 19 year old went missing on the 17th of june, after setting off on a walk back to his accommodation in tenerife. that's a journey which would have taken him around 11 hours. police called off their official search last week, but jay slater's mum says they will stay on the island now to look for him. in the us, president biden is refusing to take a cognitive test to determine if he is in mental decline. in an exclusive interview with abc news anchor george stephanopoulos, he also dismissed calls from some democrats to step aside and let a younger candidate take on the republican donald trump. biden has been attempting to defuse the political crisis over his shaky debate performance. he claims he simply had a bad night. >> he had the specific cognitive tests. and have you had a neurologist, a specialist, do an examination ? examination? >> no, no one said i had to. no

one said. they said , i'm good. one said. they said, i'm good. >> would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests and release the results to the american people? look, i have a cognitive test every single day . every single day. >> every day i have that test. everything i do . everything i do. >> the government has announced a new support package for canbbean a new support package for caribbean countries affected by the destruction of hurricane beryl. new foreign secretary david lammy has increased funding up to 500,000. the money will be used to help those whose homes and livelihoods have been impacted by the cat five hurricane. the aid package also includes hundreds of emergency shelter kits, which are capable of supporting up to 4000 people. the prince of wales is set to attend england's clash against switzerland later in the euros quarterfinals. the prince, who is also the president of the fa, will be cheering on gareth southgate's side in dusseldorf as they to hope secure a place

in the semis. spain that knocked out hosts germany with a dramatic extra time winner, while france beat portugal on penalties last night. kick off for our boys , 5 pm. those are for our boys, 5 pm. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good afternoon. it is fast approaching six minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel and it's time to mock the week. and what a busy one has been under the election fever that has gripped many parts of the world. wimbledon kicked off. who knew? then in france, marine le pen declared her party had practically wiped out emmanuel macron after winning the first round of voting in the french election. the fallout of the joe biden

trump debate rumbled on, with calls for him to step down, and in the meantime , election fever in the meantime, election fever gnpped in the meantime, election fever gripped the uk. sir keir starmer announced that he may not work after 6 pm. when he's prime minister. he told a radio station that he does not do a work related thing after 6 pm. pretty well come what may. he wanted to protect time with his family and will continue with this habit. great work if you can get it. this habit. great work if you can getit i this habit. great work if you can get it. i respect the notion, but you're the prime minister dealing on an international scale. not sure that will fly. rishi sunak suggested that keir wouldn't actually have enough time to get the job done properly, but then he would say that whatever you think of rishi, though, he was hard working as a the former prime minister and of course the former prime minister, boris johnson came out in support of him . he was the man who actually him. he was the man who actually betrayed him. but that was not enough to stem the flow of votes for the labour party. and so keir starmer was elected with a landslide victory. i think it was some 400 over 400 seats. the tories got just 121, the liberal

democrats 72. reform. i think they just got 5 or 6, despite they just got 5 or 6, despite the fact that they got half a million more votes than the liberal democrats and the snp. well, they got nine squashing their stranglehold on scottish politics. but in my view, the real winners were reform, who came second to the labour party in 98 seats and taking over 4 million votes, half a million more, as i said before, than the liberal democrats, who took 72. that can't be right . yesterday that can't be right. yesterday keir picked his cabinet, which was almost unchanged. angela rayner remained his deputy. rachel reeves became the first female chancellor and david lammy, the foreign secretary. but to be fair, the labour party were the only credible option to lead the country in keir speech today, he promised to be a prime minister for even those who didn't vote for him or those who voted for him. for the first time. however, he didn't take a question from gb news. it's been a mucky old week . a mucky old week. >> some 80% of british voters didn't vote for you. that's

including those who didn't vote at all. what does that mean in practice? in a sense, for the culture of the government and how you'll govern it was very important to me to say what i said on the steps yesterday about those that didn't vote for us, because we're a government of service to all people, whether they voted for us or not, >> and i include within that people who voted labour for the first time on thursday . first time on thursday. >> right. so coming up, we've got a cracking show for you. i'll be making light of the top stories in mock the week, and we have a new prime minister for this week's topic. in my roundtable discussion, we'll be continuing to unpick the results of the general election and what it means for our future. then stay tuned. at 335, we will be live to discuss the latest from israel and what the impact of the uk general election has as the uk general election has as the pro—palestinian mp becomes the pro—palestinian mp becomes

the sixth largest party. and then joining me to shine a light in the political hot seat today is former mp scott benton. he'll be speaking about the proportional representation and whether britain should scrap first past the post. he is my political spotlight at 345. that is not the way. tell me what you think. as ever, send me your comments, post me your thoughts gbnews.com/yoursay . right. so gbnews.com/yoursay. right. so joining me now is author and presenter emma woolf former adviser on britain to the us congress, lee cohen, deputy leader of the former. or he's still the deputy leader of reform uk. >> as far as i'm aware, you are still. >> yes. ben habib and also former labour mp bill rammell. right. so i'm going to start okay. so how does everybody feel about the result . bill okay. so how does everybody feel about the result. bill rammell your party won it was a historic seismic labour landslide, a complete rejection of the conservative party, >> you look at some of the seats

that we won that we've never previously held, both the southend seats, both the bournemouth bournemouth seats three seats in cornwall, aldershot and a lot of them with big majorities. the country changed significantly on thursday. i think they had trust in keir starmer in a way that they most certainly didn't have trust in jeremy corbyn and they voted for change and it's frankly like a breath of fresh air, a breath of fresh air emma woolf, a breath of fresh air. >> oh no. a lot of people didn't vote at all. >> i think the low turnout is one of the stories of this election. this let's be clear. this is a story of tory collapse. it's not a story of a huge, huge, overwhelming enthusiasm or love for the labour party. but to me, the real issue here is that is the numbers is the disparity between the number of votes cast and the and the representation. and i think that needs to be addressed urgently. the disparity between the number of votes. let's just run through those key numbers. reform got 4.1 million votes and got five seats, lib dems 3.5

million votes and 71 seats. >> i thought it was 72. so 7171. >> i thought it was 72. so 7171. >> yep. green 1.9 million and got four seats. so reform got more than double of what the greens got. and they're on four and five seats. i mean ijust think this is appalling. i think this is in a democratic country. every vote should somehow count. i know it's never going to be an exact science, but that to look at these figures, to look at these numbers and to realise that over 4 million people's votes are represented by five reform mps in the house of parliament, i think is appalling. >> benhabib. >> benhabib. >> well, i mean, i can't disagree with that. why would i disagree? i think it makes perfect sense . perfect sense. >> and the tories, i think, got less than twice the number of votes we did, and they got 120 seats versus al fayed 24 times. >> you know, the number of seats . >> you know, the number of seats. but the real story actually, i agree that, you know, the numbers look wrong, but the real story is that under first past the post reform uk, which three months ago was forecast not to get any seats, got five seats

and this is a seismic political event because this will allow this will have a number of impacts. the first is it will allow reform uk to build real networks within those five constituencies. local councillors , campaigners, councillors, campaigners, canvassers, understand those constituencies in a way that we've never been able. as an insurgent party, to understand any constituency, we will have government money coming to us, funding those constituencies and from that position we will be able to build now for the next five years, a campaign across the country and is, i think emma might have mentioned we came second, or perhaps you didn't, but we came second in 98 seats against labour. >> i mentioned it and, and we will be targeting those seats in particular. >> labour is sitting on a lot of very thin majorities. there will be by elections and you will see more seats coming to reform uk over this parliament. and the challenge for reform uk now is to go from being a decrying, detractor insurgent on the

sidelines to being a party that now has representation in parliament, cares about its constituents interests and has to build up a team of professionalise it and democratise our party, which, as we know, is controlled by a couple of people at the moment. so, you know, these are the challenges we face. i think we will rise to these challenges and we, i think, have a very, very good chance as nigel says, of being the dominant power in 2029, because there's a there's the nation is crying out as emma indicated, for small c conservatism, there's not an appetite for labour. this was a rejection of big c conservatives who have forgotten how it is to be conservative, >> oh no you're not bill rammell. he's over there. you can see why i got you guys confused . confused. >> it's the bald heads. yeah. >> it's the bald heads. yeah. >> nico . >> nico. >> nico. >> well, as as the only american on the panel, i bring a different perspective , but i different perspective, but i bnng different perspective, but i bring a perspective as your staunchest ally, which is that i am both encouraged and

concerned. i'm concerned because , concerned. i'm concerned because, with our woeful leadership in the white house at the moment, engaging with keir starmer, what what promised promises to be a foreign policy that could could be dangerous. and we already have a leader in the white house, in joe biden, who's not leading, who's, encouraging our worst enemies. and we would, of course , rather engage with course, rather engage with a foreign policy that is, that is more formidable in that regard, l, more formidable in that regard, i, i also am interested that the commentary by americans of the on the election has largely been wrong because our mainstream media, the new york times , tends media, the new york times, tends to love the fact that there would be this great, left wing narrative left wing swing in the uk whilst, europe is going

right. and this is clearly not the case. there was not some great embracing of a labour manifesto . it was rather a manifesto. it was rather a repudiation of the woeful leadership of the tory party and. sorry. >> well let's well i was just going to say the non conservatism of the tory party >> actually the move in this country is the same as europe. people want a nation state. they want national interest to be put first. those are the parties that are winning in europe and i reject the fact that we're a right wing party. we're a nation party as opposed to a globalist. but you know what? >> i don't think this is the big victory for reform that you're suggesting. go back two weeks and most commentators were projecting that you could potentially overtake the tories, and you'd get closer to 20% the longer the campaign went on, the more nigel farage really didn't like scrutiny. and i'm fascinated. >> no it's not, not that, ben, i'm fascinated that you just acknowledged, rightly so , that acknowledged, rightly so, that reform is not a political party.

>> it's a business owned by two people. >> when did he he didn't say that. he didn't say it's a business owned by two people. he said there are only two. democratise it. they need more people who are front runners in the parties. what are you saying? he never said it was a business owned by two people. >> but that's what it is now. it's, you know. well nigel farage comes back and says he can take over and no one can challenge him. >> yeah, so can i. i'll address both of those things. but just addressing the first point, there was a concerted all out attack on reform uk in the last two weeks of the general week. >> that was that's called politics and scrutiny. yeah, yeah. >> but it's got nothing to do. you said there wasn't that this wasn't a victory. this was a huge victory. let me tell you how many chat shows i've been on saying you guys are just spoilers. you won't get representation in parliament. now they're saying you got representation, but you only got a small representation . we are a small representation. we are building every step of the way since last october, when we got 5.4. in tamworth. we have built, built, built and built and we are still building well, they're still building and whilst

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you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. now, prime minister keir starmer, i was about to say rishi sunak. it's not. it's sir keir starmer has been setting out his vision for a changed government . speaking

a changed government. speaking to the press in number 10 downing street, he promised to do things differently. well joining me now is gb news political reporter adam cherry . political reporter adam cherry. adam. so we heard the conference. he he didn't take a question from gb news. i noticed , question from gb news. i noticed, which was a bit disappointing, but what did you make of what he said today ? said today? >> well afternoon. yeah. he didn't take a question from gb news. he did speak to five other broadcasters first, which as i say, was interesting nonetheless, this was about demonstrating his authority and setting out the agenda for the first week or so of the administration. the big headline here is he has confirmed, as he said during the campaign, that he has scrapped the rwanda plan. he said it's dead and buried. so that plan is not going forward. we also still have a reshuffle or the appointment of his first cabinet ongoing, and he has to appointments make over the next couple of days, particularly in the more junior ministerial positions . tomorrow he will head

positions. tomorrow he will head to scotland first. what is going to scotland first. what is going to be a whistle stop tour of the four nations of the uk. then on tuesday , he will meet with metro tuesday, he will meet with metro mayors across both parties to build relationships with them. then on tuesday night and into wednesday, it's his first big international debut. he'll be heading to washington for the nato summit, so no, a lot of on the job training. it's no time to stop and smell the roses. despite his victory, it's a very busy time. i he's also he's doing a he's becoming a chair for five mission boards as he's calling them across whitehall. these will be directing the civil service to manage what he has described as his five missions on things like, economic growth and the nhs. so a lot going on, a lot to absorb, i thought it was a measured and, and steely debut, again, didn't take too many questions, but looked authoritative .

looked authoritative. >> thank you very much, adam. thatis >> thank you very much, adam. that is adam cherry. right. well, this is gb news welcome back. joining me now, author and presenter emma woolf former adviser on britain to the us congress, lee cohen, deputy leader of reform uk ben habib, also former mp bill rammell come to you straight away. the press conference. no question from gb news. >> that's a shame , but i'm >> that's a shame, but i'm delighted to hear that keir starmer has decided that rwanda was a total from his decision. rwanda is now been a total waste of millions of pounds of uk taxpayers money. i mean, we all, many of us thought it was anyway, but that money has been spent and has effectively been wasted. that's a great start. i mean, meeting his cabinet, he's worked with these guys for the last million years, so there's nothing really new there, there are some interesting appointments in, you know, james timpson prison in charge of prisons. but then we have these odd things like patrick vallance, who had a questionable role in the whole covid and lockdown process , who's now

lockdown process, who's now going to be something to do with health. i think so, yeah. i'm not feeling deeply. you can tell i'm trying to be enthusiastic, but i'm not feeling deeply inspired by the old faces. same old, same old, but now sitting around the cabinet from the shadow, yeah . shadow, yeah. >> your your people, i should say . your party. say. your party. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> so did you think he performed well for the press conference? >> i think he did. and, you know, he's an incredibly capable leader, and i think that will become clearer and clearer. i actually disagree with you, emma , actually disagree with you, emma, about patrick vallance. i think if you did an opinion poll amongst the public, he would come across as one of the most respected health experts in the country. and the fact that he's taken on a role as science minister within the labour government, i think, is a very positive step also on rwanda. and you acknowledge, emma, it was a waste of money. we are saving money 200 million that was due to be spent on a program thatis was due to be spent on a program that is no deterrent that we can

invest in proper measures to tackle illegal immigration. >> the money. what about the money that was spent on rwanda ? money that was spent on rwanda? >> well, ask rishi sunak, you know, he was responsible for it. >> it'sjust know, he was responsible for it. >> it's just that is uk taxpayers money desperately needed. >> but hold on, hold on. >> but hold on, hold on. >> some people would support rwanda. some people still support it and think that he's wrong to do that, and he will still need an area to send people who he cannot send back to say , afghanistan or to other to say, afghanistan or to other countries where we do not have any deals with. so rwanda would have been a processing and a holding place for those people. so he will still need a third country. >> so there is no mechanism put forward by either the conservative party or the labour party that will deal with illegal migration to this country. they are obsessed with what they call the rules based world order, and under that rules based world order, you're not allowed to protect your borders. you're not allowed to actually enforce your borders because some international court will come along and overrule you, which we saw with rwanda was always doomed. 400 million giving the thick end of £1

billion to the french to stop the boats when actually they're escorting these boats to the edge of our territorial water. what we need to do is discover, rediscover the fact that border enforcement requires force at our borders, and border force needs to take a leaf out of the belgians book, where they have developed a dedicated force using sensors, drones, fast boats , well trained, boats, well trained, specifically trained people to intercept dinghies that are leaving their boats and send them back to the shore. >> so are you agreeing with keir starmer's border force ? starmer's border force? >> no. >> no. >> completely? no, not at all. i mean, it is absolute smoke and mirrors. what he's brought together for domestic agencies in this country, crown prosecution service , m15, prosecution service, m15, immigration enforcement and one other. i can't remember the name of it. four of them together under what he calls counter—terrorism legislation. but the people smugglers aren't in this country. the people smugglers are all in europe. if there was a mechanism by which to get control of those people

smugglers and break their gangs, the europeans would have done it. you can't do it from domestic agencies based in the uk. we have to stop the boats at our borders , and the french in our borders, and the french in turn, need to stop people entering france illegally and so on. >> why would they do that? >> why would they do that? >> because they need to. they need to. >> but they're leaving the front. i don't want them there. he well, you know, it's fascinating to listen to this debate because of course we are embroiled in this , in this same embroiled in this, in this same thing where we have no borders in the united states. >> joe biden and the democrats are wilfully inviting everyone into the country, illegals, so that they can gain more votes. and it is impoverishing our cities. it is making our cities frightfully unsafe and only just now, when there started to be a pubuc now, when there started to be a public outcry, even on the left , public outcry, even on the left, where in new york city, they're giving illegal migrants that are coming, credit cards with $2,000 on them. things like this. and we're all paying for this. so

it's really interesting. >> this is this is the global, this is it rules based system which is absolutely attacking nafion which is absolutely attacking nation states. >> but but that's that's the global reality that all nations are facing. >> no it isn't but bill, it isn't. hold on. but it isn't. >> i tell you what. you can make a difference. the last labour government net migration was the third of what it is today. and part of that, and i was a foreign office minister at the time, was intense cooperation between the foreign office and the home office working at it practically. and we significantly reduced numbers. >> some of the issues we are facing now, part of the way it was set up . so things that were was set up. so things that were set up by the labour party . set up by the labour party. >> absolutely right. >> absolutely right. >> well, that's what i thought. >> well, that's what i thought. >> absolutely right. like what. yeah. so i mean the labour party has in the labour party crucially made the european court of human rights the supreme judicial body in the united kingdom . tony blair's one united kingdom. tony blair's one of his first acts. >> british judges could make those decisions rather than a foreign court. >> no, the reality, no , no, >> no, the reality, no, no, bill, what happens now is if you've got a human rights complaint, it goes to the

supreme court. if you lose, that's not the end of it. they then go to the european court of human rights, an unelected body of semi—educated individuals. >> all courts are unelected, no , >> all courts are unelected, no, that's not the point. i would never want the day when courts are elected. >> but, bill, the point is that this is a body over which the british people, through its parliamentary system, has absolutely no say. and there's no accountability for the echr. it is. and it's really interesting to article 21 of the universal declaration of human rights requires every peoples to be governed democratically . the be governed democratically. the european court of human rights is an intrinsically undemocratic institution , and it has been institution, and it has been imposed on the british people by a labour government. >> and in decent democracies, you have separation between politicians and the judiciary. no, and i saw you nodding when i said , when i said you have said, when i said you have dangers with an elected judiciary . and we see that i'm judiciary. and we see that i'm not suggesting an elected judiciary , but a judiciary judiciary, but a judiciary based, i'm suggesting not one based, i'm suggesting not one based in strasbourg, which is a

foreign body. >> i think the point that was being made was that whilst you were sort of wondering about how incredible labour's record was on immigration, much, much better than i was putting to you, that the reason we're in this state are because of rules that labour put in place before they left office. >> emma, i don't see why we can't listen to people saying that we want to protect our borders in our nation. absolutely right. put british people first. that does not mean we are xenophobic or racist . it we are xenophobic or racist. it simply means exactly that here, here care about the people in this country first. >> and i'm not suggesting that. but i want practical measures to reduce migration numbers. >> i'm saying is next time you start gloating about labour's brilliant record, just remember some of the things they put in place that have put us in this position. >> but but nana you can't. >> but but nana you can't. >> i just want ben to correct something because we spoke about reform being a business. >> yeah. so i mean, i got 30s so, so far it's worked extremely well. >> that reform is a private limited company controlled by nigel and richard . but in order nigel and richard. but in order to become the big democratic force that we wish to be, we must ourselves democratise.

>> right? okay >> right? okay >> so. so you were right with the thing that you said earlier. i just needed to correct that. >> i think nigel will allow you to democratise. >> i had to correct that for the record. all right, well, listen, thank you so much to emma wolf, author and presenter, former adviser to britain , the us adviser to britain, the us congress. lee cohen, deputy leader of reform ben habib, also former labour mp. bill rammell right. you're here with me. nana akua live on tv, online and on digital radio. my nigel nana nigel is on the way next. but first, let's get your latest headunes first, let's get your latest headlines with ray addison . headlines with ray addison. >> thanks, nana. 332. sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's plans to send migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the pm ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to report deport rather a single migrant. he also said that labour's election victory has given them, quote , a victory has given them, quote, a clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the uk . former

four corners of the uk. former chancellor jeremy four corners of the uk. former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled chancellor jeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership. when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat of godalming and ash and has previously tried twice to become the tory leader . to become the tory leader. police in tenerife say jay slater's family can bring in their own search and rescue teams to look for the missing teenagen teams to look for the missing teenager. the 19 year old went missing on the 17th of june, after setting off on a walk back to his accommodation in tenerife. now that's a journey which would have taken around 11 hours. police called off the official search last week, but slater's mother says they will stay on the island to look for him . the government has him. the government has announced a new support package for caribbean countries affected by the destruction of hurricane beryl. new foreign secretary david lammy has increased funding up to £500,000. that money will be used to help those whose homes and livelihoods have been impacted by the cat five

hurricane. the prince of wales is set to attend england's clash against switzerland later in the euros quarter finals. the prince , euros quarter finals. the prince, who is the president of the fa, will be cheering on gareth southgate's side in dusseldorf as they hope to secure a place in the semis. spain knocked out hosts germany with a dramatic extra time winner , while france extra time winner, while france beat portugal on penalties last night. kick off for our boys 5 pm. right, those are the latest p.m. right, those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison . tatiana sanchez ray addison. tatiana sanchez will be here in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray. still to come , former mp scott still to come, former mp scott benton will be in the political hot seat to shine a light on proportional representation versus first past the post, but next, as five independent pro—palestinian candidates have unseated labour, rivals, will be

getting the latest from ground in israel with nicola. do

so. welcome back . this is gb so. welcome back. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's fast approaching 39 minutes after 3:00. i'm a queer now . five 3:00. i'm a queer now. five independent pro—palestinian candidates have unseated labour rivals, effectively making them the sixth largest party. shawkat, adam, who has been elected as mp for leicester south, celebrated with a palestinian keffiyeh scarf, dedicating his victory to the people of gaza. the new mps have consistently championed the palestinian cause during their campaign, so joining me now is former mystifier uri geller. uri talk to me. what's on your mind? >> hi , nana. >> hi, nana. >> hi, nana. >> okay, look, it's really good to be on your show once again. and. wow, what a dramatic. what

dramatic events in the uk. now, look, i'm israeli and british, so the elections matter to me and nana. your new prime minister, keir starmer, will have to deal with israel and gaza as his first big foreign policy issue. and did you know, i bet you didn't know that keir starmer's wife has close relatives here in israel. in fact, he said half of his wife's family live in israel. look, i'm sure he watches gb news, so let me say something to him right now directly on your show. listen, keir. listen to me . listen, keir. listen to me. congratulations. first of all, on your fantastic success. i would like to invite you and all your family to come to israel . your family to come to israel. come to visit my museum. you will have an amazing time here. but back to the elections for me nana for me, the best result of

the night was this man. this man, george galloway. george galloway got kicked out by the voters after just 54 days. galloway got kicked out by the voters afterjust 54 days. nana. voters after just 54 days. nana. that's even shorter than the lifestyle . i, if i may shorter lifestyle. i, if i may shorter than the lifespan of a dung beetle. okay. the houses of parliament are now galloway free zone. let me continue. this is important. this is. zone. let me continue. this is important. this is . let me important. this is. let me remind you that galloway says he refuses to meet israelis, but he couldn't wait to be photographed with me, grinning like a cheshire cat. so i salute the great british electorate for dumping this clown. he got what he deserves. but what's going on with jeremy corbyn? nana. he's like a bad smell that just won't go away . what kind of people

go away. what kind of people voted for him? you may as well voted for him? you may as well vote for hamas. look i hope labour has a positive relationship with israel, but the signs nana are not good. i think keir starmer is a good man, but i'm worried nana i'm worried about the rest of the party. david lammy your wait, david lammy, your new foreign minister, says he would support the arrest of our prime minister if the international criminal law gives the order. that is an out. that's outrageous. you know this man, this man who says he believes that men can grow a cervix. look, i know we are rushed on time. good luck for england tonight against switzerland. let me make a prediction. i might be wrong. of course. i predict england will win two one. i love you all. >> oh thank you, yuri. lovely to talk to you. and of course, those people aren't here to defend themselves. of course, george galloway is not here to defend himself, george galloway is not here to defend himself , so, you know, defend himself, so, you know, obviously. and those are euros

thoughts and his thoughts alone. and also, jeremy corbyn isn't here to defend himself. i'm sure he'd refute that allegation . but he'd refute that allegation. but next up, former mp scott benton will be live in my political hot seat to shine a on proportional representation versus first past the post in political

well, if you're just tuned in. where have you been? it's fine. it's just coming up to 46 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time now for this week's political spotlight. and joining me to shine a light is former mp scott benton . now is former mp scott benton. now the british parliament would look significantly different if the 2024 election votes were directly converted into seats. now there is a debate over whether proportional representation is more democratic than the first past the post system that we have here, and it's unclear if the british public desires a change

in the way we vote. so i'm joined now by scott benton . joined now by scott benton. scott, first of all, how are you looking so well? why is this ? looking so well? why is this? >> hello nana great to be back on. >> i have to say i love your frock. >> by the way, my mum is your biggest fan and she'll be shouting how lovely is that fork down there down the television set. so i've been enjoying life out of politics the last few months. i've been to a different couple of countries, got back a few weeks ago, got a flavour of the campaign trail, and of course the result was been inevitable , hasn't it, for inevitable, hasn't it, for a number of weeks now. but i think it's fair to say labour's landslide victory is somewhat hollow in many regards. it's almost like it's a mile wide but only an inch deep in some respects, and we've never had a government coming into office with just 34% of the vote and a prime minister with such appalling opinion, such appalling, sort of results on his own personal performance, his own personal performance, his own personal performance, his own quality and all of those different things as well. and in

terms of sort of going forward, he's going to have some significant challenges. the economy, small boats, all of those different things. and i think he's going to have very little in the way of a honeymoon penod little in the way of a honeymoon period as well . period as well. >> well, look, you're right, a very small turnout. but the system itself seems a bit broken. when reform got over 4 million votes, whereas the liberal democrats actually got fewer votes, but came away with over 70 seats, whereas reform got so few. do you feel that there's a sense that we need to start looking at the way the system is structured? >> absolutely. i think labour received 63% of the seats on just 34% of the votes. that's absolutely shocking. and there will be a number of people looking there thinking, well, does this actually reflect how the british people feel as a collective whole? i think reform rightly will feel particularly aggrieved. huge number of votes for a brand new start up party on a shoestring budget, with very little central infrastructure and yet receiving

just 1% of the vote. and what we have seen nana, is the rise of parties on the left, with the greens on the right of the spectrum with reform doing very, very well. and those results not being backed up by members of parliament. so i think there will be calls to look at the election system once again, we're not the 1960s or 70s where 80% of people voted for conservative or labour, just 60% of people less. in fact , voted of people less. in fact, voted for one of the two main parties on thursday. >> but they're not going to want to change it because because with the system, if you are ahead, then in the system you will stay ahead. so there obviously to them it's a good thing. whoever i mean i think many years ago i can remember the labour party calling for it to change. but then of course now they're in power. so where do you do that? well they will do you do that? well they will do that don't they. not at all. change. >> they do. and of course , >> they do. and of course, historically first past the post has worked for the labour party better than anyone else. you only have to go back to 2001 2005. blair was getting massive landslide election victories on

a very small number of the population, and the actual votes in public voting for him. so i think it will be a discussion over the next few years. but laboun over the next few years. but labour, of course, are never going to touch a system which works for them. so well, being somebody on the right. i think this poses a particular challenge going forward. we saw the tories get 24, we form get 14. it is clearly not sustainable to have both parties of the right effectively cancelling each other out and letting labour through with his massive majorities. >> you say letting labour through, but you, i know, are an ex tory person . you probably ex tory person. you probably still are conservative in your views, but the conservative party were not conservative. they did not appear to subscribe to conservative views. in fact, most people would say they were liberal. others would even say that they'd gone to the left. and in fact, the labour party are more right than the conservatives. so let's be honest here. they didn't deserve the vote. so why should the pubuc the vote. so why should the public vote for them just for fear of a labour party getting in? >> no, i absolutely see where

you're coming from there. i mean, the short facts of the matter is nana they were not conservative. i'm afraid boris won this huge victory, especially on the backs of working class brexiteers. places like my old patch , blackpool like my old patch, blackpool voting for boris to get brexit done. but they also voted for things such as levelling up. they voted for immigration to be reduced and whichever way you look, i'm afraid the government have let people down on different issues in different parts of the country, and that's why so many former tories have voted for reform. and one thing which has really annoyed me over the last few weeks has been conservative candidates and mps . conservative candidates and mps. almost blaming nigel farage and blaming reform voters for this labour victory. well, that's not the case at all, i'm afraid the issue is sort your own house out, get your own house in order, and then people will vote for an inspiring conservative message. so who should lead? >> because obviously rishi sunak has stepped down. there was no point. he's embarrassed himself in a sense. i appreciate the fact that he worked very hard,

but what he did to boris and what they all did to boris , i what they all did to boris, i think the british public just looked at that and thought, i don't like the look of that. even if you're going to get rid of a leader, you do it. not like that. it was just horrible. >> well, i have so many people nanain >> well, i have so many people nana in blackpool who said i voted conservative. i voted for boris, i voted for you, but i can't vote for rishi because he's stabbed somebody in the back. and it was almost like he wanted the position of prime minister so desperately. and yet when he inherited the job through getting rid of boris, he didn't have a plan. and over the last 18 months, what on earth have we seen in terms of a conservative agenda coming forward ? he's stabilised the forward? he's stabilised the economy, but he didn't do anything else. and i'm afraid just talking about tax cuts, talking about stopping the boats, but without actually doing those things is not good enough. and that's exactly the reason why the conservatives got punished. so badly. >> so who should lead? >> so who should lead? >> well, the big question is i think the degree to which the conservative party now needs to work with nigel farage and work with reform party, just blaming

farage and blaming reform voters for this election isn't good enough. tories need to listen to people who deserted them on thursday and understand those reasons why, and i think that needs to be the whole discussion of this debate. >> they have had plenty of time to work that out. >> and how do we unite the right? because that's the only way we're ever going to win. we're going to win. >> and i actually i personally don't think the tory party will survive. i think that they have embarrassed themselves in such a manner that nobody could vote for them again. i mean, after all the changing of leaders, changing of ministers, changing of this, changing of that fighting amongst itself, the five families that are, please, i can't forget it. no, no . and i can't forget it. no, no. and then even that last bit, they were going to actually change the leader again before the election until somebody had to tell them, don't be so stupid. but look, scott, lastly, keir starmer has just had a press conference. he didn't ask gb news allow us to ask a question. >> well , i news allow us to ask a question. >> well, i hope that's news allow us to ask a question. >> well , i hope that's not news allow us to ask a question. >> well, i hope that's not a sign of things to come. i really, really do because you're a brilliant part of the media

ecosystem. i mean, you've given people like me who shout at me. sky news, bbc, because they're not representative of the british people. you've really given an avenue for people to watch your station, which is so interactive, so fresh and emerging with its content. so i really do hope he's not going to continue in this path. and of course , with everything else course, with everything else around ofcom as well, it's a particularly worrying time. but ironically, i think more gb news probably voted labour and conservative actually on thursday. so the idea was no labour viewers to this channel is ridiculous. and i think keir starmer maybe needs to bear that in mind a bit more in future. >> i think so as well. scott. so very briefly, you've got about 10s. what are you doing now? what's your thing? >> i'm enjoying life, just looking at some different opportunities for the future. but i will always be incredibly passionate about politics and different causes , so i will be different causes, so i will be continuing to pursue them. hopefully in the months ahead as well. lovely. >> well, we'll invite you back as well because it sounds like you've got time on your hands, like about 200 of your mates.

>> i will look forward to it. >> i will look forward to it. >> that is former mp scott benton. this was political spotlight. stay tuned. my panel will be up next and of course nana nigel, do not go anywhere . nana nigel, do not go anywhere. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news. weather update from the met office this weekend is sunny spells for some of us. scattered showers around but still feeling cool. showers around but still feeling cool . we've got low pressure cool. we've got low pressure generally in charge that's moving. its way eastwards and northwesterly winds , giving that northwesterly winds, giving that cool feel for the time of year. so through this afternoon, any showers gradually easing later on. so turning drier across parts of england in towards the south—east. but showers still continuing across parts of scotland and northern ireland

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will be discussing all the latest topics that are hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing it at times. we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . joining me in a few cancelled. joining me in a few moments time, the fabulous lizzie cundy and also matthew laza then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time for electoral reform ? it time for electoral reform? the labour party win a landslide victory, picking up 410 seats. but is our electoral system unfair to smaller parties, leading to disproportionate representation? then, in difficult conversations, i'll be joined by the most tattooed woman in the uk, becky holt . you woman in the uk, becky holt. you won't believe how much she spent. take a guess how many she has. closest answer wins. this is her. as sunak resigns, we've got conservatives receiving the worst support for their party in history. who will be the next to lead them? but before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez .

news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. >> nana. >> thank you and good afternoon. the top stories sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's plans to send migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried. >> speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to deport a single migrant. he also said labour's election victory has given them a clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the united kingdom . kingdom. >> look, the rwanda scheme was dead and buried before it started. it's never been a deterrent , look at the numbers deterrent, look at the numbers that have come over in the first six and a bit months of this yeah six and a bit months of this year. they're record numbers. thatis year. they're record numbers. that is the problem that we are inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent , inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent, almost the opposite, because everybody has worked out, particularly the gangs that run this , that the gangs that run this, that the chance of ever going to rwanda was so slim , less than 1.

was so slim, less than 1. >> the leader of reform uk, nigel farage, has reacted by claiming labour will struggle to deal with the issue of illegal immigration. >> what he said he would do it. at least he's kept a promise, i suppose. look, rwanda was never going to work. what keir starmer is proposing , which is, you is proposing, which is, you know, tackle the gangs well , know, tackle the gangs well, frankly, you know, the last government were doing that for the last few years. it's not going to work at the minute. it's wild and windy, but we do have some pretty strong first hand accounts that as soon as we get a calm spell, they'll be crossing the english channel in their thousands. and let's face it, keir starmer does not have a plan to deal with it. >> former chancellor jeremy hunt >> former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership. when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat godalming and ash and has previously tried twice to become conservative leader. meanwhile, suella braverman has failed to rule herself out, simply saying there were no

announcements . simply saying there were no announcements. in simply saying there were no announcements . in other news, announcements. in other news, police in tenerife say jay slater's family can bring in their own search and rescue teams to look for the missing teenager. teams to look for the missing teenager . the 19 year old went teenager. the 19 year old went missing on the 17th of june after setting off on a walk back to his accommodation in tenerife, a journey which would have taken him around 11 hours. police called off the official search last week, but slater's mother says they will stay on the island to look for him in the island to look for him in the us , president biden is the us, president biden is refusing to take a cognitive test to determine if he's in mental decline. in an exclusive interview with abc news anchor george stephanopoulos, he also dismissed calls for some democrats to step aside and let a younger candidate take on republican donald trump . biden republican donald trump. biden has been attempting to defuse the political crisis over his shaky debate performance. he claims he simply had a bad night. >> he had the specific cognitive tests. and have you had a

neurologist, a specialist, do an examination? >> no , no one said i had to. no >> no, no one said i had to. no one said. they said, i'm good. >> would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests and release the results to the american people ? results to the american people? >> look, i have a cognitive test every single day . every day i every single day. every day i have that test. everything i do . have that test. everything i do. >> the government has announced a new support package for canbbean a new support package for caribbean countries affected by the destruction of hurricane beryl. new foreign secretary david lammy has increased funding up to £500,000. the money will be used to help those whose homes and livelihoods have been impacted by the category five hurricane. the aid package also includes hundreds of emergency shelter kits capable of supporting up to 4000 people. as you've been hearing today, the prince of wales is set to attend england's clash against switzerland in the euros quarter finals today. the prince, who's

the president of the fa, will be cheering on gareth southgate's side in dusseldorf as they hope to secure a place in the semi—finals. england fans have been gathering in dusseldorf ahead of that clash. switzerland haven't beaten the three lions in the past 13 attempts since 1981. kick off is in an hour's time . and andy murray has been time. and andy murray has been denied a final wimbledon match after emma raducanu pulled out of their mixed doubles clash with stiffness in her wrist . the with stiffness in her wrist. the 37 year old scot and former world number one, made his final appearance on thursday when he lost alongside older brother jamie in the men's doubles. he'll head off on holiday now before preparing for the final event of his career at the olympics in paris. event of his career at the olympics in paris . and those are olympics in paris. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez, more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward

slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good afternoon. if you just tuned in. welcome on board. this is a gb news. we are live on tv, onune is a gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. so today we got the first major press conference from sir keir starmer, who promised to be the government for all, even if you didn't vote for him or it was your first time, some 80% of british voters didn't vote for you. >> that's including those who didn't vote at all. what does that mean in practice? >> in a sense, for the culture of the government and how you'll govern it was very important to me to say what i said on the steps yesterday about those that didn't vote for us, because we're a government of service to all people, whether they voted for us or not, >> and i include within that

people who voted for labour the first time on thursday . first time on thursday. >> so that was keir starmer earlier today. let's hope it was just an oversight that they didn't do. a question of gb news now keir starmer is now primus inter pares first among equals and is picking his cabinet. >> if you voted labour yesterday we will carry the responsibility of your trust as we rebuild our country . but whether you voted country. but whether you voted labour or not, in fact , labour or not, in fact, especially if you did not, i say to you directly, my government will serve you . politics can be will serve you. politics can be a force for good. we will show that we've changed the labour party returned it to service and thatis party returned it to service and that is how we will govern country. first party second. >> angela rayner was the first to stroll into number 10,

retaining her position as deputy leader. she also becomes levelling up secretary more like levelling down. she was previously pushing to end zero hours contracts. hope she has a rethink on that one. rachel reeves, the first female chancellor. she played chess from an early age . apparently from an early age. apparently her father taught her the key moves by the time she was in secondary school, she was a national champion. now, i used to play chess. it makes you very strategic. yvette cooper becomes home secretary she's married to ed balls, who can often be seen sitting smugly next to susanna reid. both he and his wife , reid. both he and his wife, yvette, are veterans of new laboun yvette, are veterans of new labour. they are all but scrapped. rwanda. that's been the first thing david lammy, foreign secretary clearly a woman is foreign to him. >> is it transphobic to say only women have a cervix? david i don't know if it's transphobic, but it's not. >> accurate. >> accurate. >> nick i mean, obviously you it's probably the case that only that trans women don't have ovanes that trans women don't have ovaries , but a cervix, i

ovaries, but a cervix, i understand, is something that you can have following various procedures. >> a cervix is the neck of a womb. so unless you've got a womb, you can't make a neck for it. others include pat mcfadden. he is one of the few members of the new cabinet that has experienced serving in government. none of the others have so far. they have been in the opposition for that long. under gordon brown, pat served as parliamentary under—secretary at the cabinet office and later as a minister in the business department. shabana shabana mahmood will be serving as justice secretary as she became the first female muslim in the house of commons when she was elected in 2010. but has clashed with keir starmer on gaza . wes with keir starmer on gaza. wes streeting, who before politics openly tweeted about aj jan waugh , plus he had that issue waugh, plus he had that issue with suzanne hall where he made the comments about white supremacists, presuming that we're the ones that are voting for her. but on the plus side, he's acknowledged that he was

wrong on the trans debate and is looking to reform the nhs. i sincerely hope he succeeds bridget phillipson , who once bridget phillipson, who once starred in the background for byker grove, by the way, she becomes the education secretary although perhaps she could learn to answer a few questions like that. or private schools and ed miliband became the energy secretary, which is a fitting, really, because he sort of reminds me of one of those creature comforts. remember those? our political editor, chris hope, asked him about his plans. >> good to see you , miliband. >> good to see you, miliband. >> good to see you, miliband. >> what are your plans for government ? government? >> lots of exciting. you're going to act. gas boilers . going to act. gas boilers. >> gb news us. >> gb news us. >> beloved, we're loving it . >> beloved, we're loving it. we're loving it already. >> you love gb energy at gb. >> you love gb energy at gb. >> we love gb energy. >> we love gb energy. >> if it works for the viewers, how much our bills are going up. >> enjoying government? >> enjoying government? >> you're excited. what are your plans then for government? >> well, we're going to have our first cabinet meeting and then we'll tell you a little bit. >> okay. there we have it. ed miliband thinks that gb news is going to enjoy his government. we'll wait and see on that one, shall we? >> yeah. well, i'll be honest here. the labour party at this

stage were the only credible alternative. yes. a massive majority is worrying as it gives you total control. but as we saw with conservatives, they squandered theirs after the disaster of the tories. surely no one could be worse. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it time for electoral reform? labour and sir keir starmer have won the general election, picking up 410 seats at 9.6 million total votes. this is as our electoral system is first past the post. but is it unfair that smaller parties who lead to disproportionate representation should get so few seats? so for the great british debate this out, i'm asking is it time for electoral reform? then at 450 it's raw round—up time. royal biographer andrew 9/11 will be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu. the mother of a us war hero killed in afghanistan has

criticised the decision to give prince harry an award honouring her dead son. meghan markle also has reportedly completed filming her upcoming netflix show, which would celebrate the joys of cooking, gardening and friendship. really. and then at five is this week's difficult conversations. the uk's most tattooed woman, beck holt, will be in the studio as she's transformed her body into a living canvas, spending well somewhere in the region of 30,000 to £40,000. but how many tattoos has she got? closest answer wins. that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email or send. post your comments gb news. com for accuracy . right. let's get accuracy. right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel , former labour advisor my panel, former labour advisor matthew laza. good afternoon and also broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy . right i'm going to lizzie cundy. right i'm going to come to you matthew laza your great party. you have one. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> yes. how do you feel about

it? >> well, i'm absolutely delighted and i'm very pleased about the scale of the victory in terms of seats, because it means there's a good majority in the commons and we can push through things like reforming the nhs, which as you say, are so important. but i think the party needs to be acutely conscious that although it's got a huge number of seats, it didn't get a huge percentage of the vote. and that's why i'm so pleased that keir yesterday and his very first remarks outside downing street, and he's repeated them in the press conference this morning, made it clear that it's about governing for the whole country, those who didn't vote. and there were quite a lot of those and those who voted for other parties as well. so i think the government needs to have that in its mind. it needs to listen to those labour voters who voted reform it also, you know, and it needs to have a clear strategy. it's all about delivery. so but i'm still happy. although i haven't slept that much since thursday night. so why then, did keir starmer, not give gb news the opportunity to ask him a question? i honestly, that would just be an oversight. there's no issue with gb news. yeah. no, no, i mean, i mean, i don't know because i wasn't in the room this morning, but i mean, he's given lots of interviews to gb news. he's, as you saw there. ed and ed and johnny reynolds were

engaging with chris hope. our political editor. so he might have been being sarcastic. i will have a word . no no no no will have a word. no no no no no. well, i mean, look, i mean, can you have a crisis? i will definitely have a word. >> our viewers and our gb news people put labour as they said they were going to vote labour, and these were people that he said some of them would have been voting labour for the first time. and his comment was that he would also take care of people and me and gloria de piero were there telling them that they've got to speak to us, and they do mostly. >> and if you see keir starmer, can you tell him to put a bit more zest into his speeches, his, his first speech as prime minister, i nearly fell asleep yet again. >> and let's not forget this man 80% didn't actually for vote him, and starmer's own seat dropped by 16,000. and throughout that speech , outside throughout that speech, outside number 10, he actually looked at his notes 158 times. and that is that i did. and that means actually , every 2.8 seconds, he actually, every 2.8 seconds, he looked at his notes. that worries me for why, prime

minister? because, yeah, i'm looking at facts and figures. he's our prime minister bucha, can i tell you something? you look at how nigel farage does it. he never uses an autocue. the only one that never used an autocue with all that's gone on. and he himself got 21,225 votes, keir starmer's dropped by 16,000 in his own constituency, so it isn't quite the greatness. i mean, his approval rating is just 8. one of the lowest ever of our prime ministers >> but let's be honest, there really wasn't anybody positioned to do this job. >> but this. this was, in my eyes, a punishment election. you look at what happened in scotland . they voted for labour scotland. they voted for labour because they were so disillusioned by the snp. you know, many i speak to that were usual conservative voters , usual conservative voters, totally disillusioned by the tory party and rishi sunak. this was a punishment election. and look at reform . nigel farage

look at reform. nigel farage came in with only, you know, four weeks and five days and won 4 million votes. now i've got to say it's impressive achievement. >> absolutely. yeah. no, i mean, nobody can take away from how nigel transformed the election campaign. >> the liberal democrats got fewer votes. >> absolutely. yeah. and we're going to come away with 71 seats. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i know we're going to discuss the voting system in a bit, but i mean, i think that what you saw is. yes, absolutely. people in areas where the liberal democrats were second voted liberal democrat in areas where labour was the challenger, they voted labour in scotland, labour had a very strong performance because the snp government. i think you're right, lizzie. the government needs to be aware that it needs to govern for the whole country and not just those who vote for it. but frankly, i think that's a good thing, because if the government's got in mind that it's not just looking to its own supporters, as keir says. ad nauseam, it's about putting country before party. and that is not a bad way of running a country, because i think we've seen too much of the reverse over the last few years. >> but, matthew, aren't you worried that he's brought back in ed miliband , please? one of in ed miliband, please? one of our biggest disasters. let's

just hope he doesn't eat a bacon sandwich. >> well, i was brought in to make sure i never made a bacon sandwich. >> archewell of failure. look what happened with bringing back david cameron. >> yeah, well, look, he's given ed a very specific role, which is, you know, on energy, which is, you know, on energy, which is what ed has worked on in government before. it's and his number one task is getting great, great british energy going to ensure that we keep the lights on and we have energy security. >> it doesn't even remind you of one of those, you know, the ones when it's nice and warm and you used to do the electricity ad. yeah. it's like going and we love it. and then there were these little turtle sort of creatures all talking like that. he he's. >> the thing about ed miliband is you're absolutely right. that's what. but when, when i spent a lot of time. well, no, no, he would even sit. i mean, i think somebody gave him a mug when we were on the campaign trail one morning. but when you're. when you're with ed, as i was on a lot of railway stations, a lot of, streets in the 2015 election campaigning people come up to you and say, he's a lot taller than you think. he's exactly my height. we're exactly the same height as the tallest man ever to lead the labour party. he's taller than keir. >> oh, really? really. you're not even that tall. well listen,

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radio. and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking. the labour party has won a landslide majority in the 2024 general election . now 2024 general election. now labour won, taking 33.9% of votes across the country, winning 412 seats. the number keeps changing, picking up more than 9.6 million total votes now. the conservatives took 20 points, took a 20 point drop from 2019, winning 121 seats, picking up less than 6.8 million votes. and rishi sunak held his seat but left downing street packing. now, despite winning just five seats, reform uk took 14% of the vote and the third best party vote share with 4 million votes overall, whilst the liberal democrats lagged behind reform on 12% of the vote. but picking up just less than 3.5 million with 71 seats, so a new record for them. of course , but, they got fewer course, but, they got fewer votes, but yet so many more

seats. the greens, snp and plaid plaid cymru receiving less than 3 million total votes between them. but let's break down the first past the post electoral system. each constituency elects one representative voters pick one representative voters pick one candidate and the candidate with the most votes wins. simple as that. however, it can be unfair to smaller parties and lead to disproportionate representation, with many calling our voting system outdated and not fit for purpose, to not mention 2024, which was undoubtedly the lowest turnout election since 2001. so for the great british debate this year, i'm asking, is it time for electoral reform ? well, time for electoral reform? well, joining me now, james matthewson former labour party spokesperson jo—anne nadler former aide to david cameron and norman baker, former liberal democrat minister. i'm going to start with you , james matthewson. with you, james matthewson. you've got a very small proportion of the votes really, yet you've got such a large number of seats. does it feel a bit unfair ? bit unfair? >> yeah, i mean, i didn't get

them first and foremost. nana and i'm not in the party anymore. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> they're not. i'm sure i would have got even less than that if it was up to me, but i do think, you're absolutely right. there. is this question. >> and in the labour party, it's been brought to the surface more recently as well. things like labour party conference. >> there is normally a motion every single year at labour party conference for the party to consider this electoral reform. >> and looking at systems like proportional representation. now, of course, the argument that's always been pushed back is that in 2011, obviously there was the vote on this and that it didn't pass. so they've always thought that it's best to stick with it. but i mean, there's no denying that the reason for that is because it benefits the labour party. and it benefits the tory party. now, i'm thrilled with the labour result, and i'm thrilled with the fact we've got a new government that i'm sure and i hope i'm sincerely hoping will stick to its values and change britain for the better. but it isn't fair, you know, when it comes to democracy. and i do think it would be nice to see the labour

party make some reforms in that direction that aren't in its own best interests. that would give the general population, i think, a big, a big boost of reassurance . reassurance. >> yeah. well, keir starmer did say people first party second or party second, people first or country first. and i don't know one way or the other. but the point of the matter was he did direct it. that we are in charge. so perhaps that would be an interesting notion. perhaps he should consider it. joanne, do you think maybe he should? >> well, i think it's very generous of james to make that offer, but i'm afraid i remain very unconvinced of the need for electoral reform, and i fear that a lot of people on the right are now going to get into a debate about process, rather than really concentrating on ideas, and why it's been that the conservatives have proved to be so unpopular. during the course of this election and increasingly over the last few years, i think that there are some issues to raise about our

electoral system primarily, really whether we need to have postal votes distributed so readily in the way that we do. there's a danger with postal votes, of course, that you break that very important principle, which is of the secret ballot. but if you're talking about electoral reform in terms of some kind of proportional representation, then what i would say is our british first past the post system has generally served us very well in terms of creating a lot of stability in the system. there is no perfect electoral system, and i think we should be very wary about rushing to change something which enables parties to form coalitions within themselves and then to a certain extent, to, to push to the margins some of the more extreme elements that can enter in directly into parliamentary system. if we go down a proportional route . proportional route. >> but they're not really extreme, are they? i mean, like you can hardly call reform extreme. and when 4 million nana so you don't mean them, you just

mean extreme elements, right? well, i think but but but but but but from what you're saying, i'm just surmising what you're saying, that you're saying that if we had it, you're putting words into my mouth. >> i'm far more concerned about some of. >> well, i've not actually finished what i was saying. i actually only said a few words. and then you never got me. let me get to the end. but what i was saying was, from what you're saying, i'm deducing that you're suggesting that if we change the electoral system, more extreme parties will come to the forefront and will have more control. is that is that the point you're making? i think that's the point you're making, isn't it? >> i think it's possible that now when we look at some of the, parties that have sprung up over the israel—gaza question, who have taken votes away from laboun have taken votes away from labour, i would prefer for that particular influence to be on the outside of the mainstream. i certainly wasn't making any statement at all about reform who've shown themselves in a very short time , more than very short time, more than capable of actually winning seats in the first past the post

system. now, of course, i can quite understand why they should have won more. well, they've they've been going effectively underin they've been going effectively under in this guise for four weeks. so the fact they were able to win five, i think reflects very, very well on reform. and yes, you're absolutely right. there is an apparent injustice in the number of votes that they won versus for instance, the liberal democrats. but the liberal democrats. but the liberal democrats have been working for years to. >> but that's not the point . no, >> but that's not the point. no, you can work as many years as you can work as many years as you like if you get fewer votes. you a lot of people would say you shouldn't get more seats. really interesting. john, i've got to bring, norman baker in. norman, do you think it's fair? i mean, you guys got loads of seats and you've got less votes than reform . than reform. >> well, listen, don't pick on us because a number of appg is still under the number we should have if proportional representation were in place. >> in fact, if we look at the, the guardian today as an interesting bar graph, the conservatives, the lib dems, the snp, reform green party all got

fewer seats and they should do based on the number of votes cast for them. the only party they got more seats and they should have got was the labour party. labour party got a third of the vote and two thirds of the seats. that's pretty indefensible. yeah we have to change the system. lib dems have been arguing for changes for years. i'm delighted others are now coming to on board take our case up. but, you know, the tory and labour parties together got just over half the votes, 56. we are no longer in a two party system. first past the post works okay. when it's two parties. it's not two parties. there's a multitude of parties now and those who are not labour or tory get discriminated against. and that cannot be right. >> yeah, well, frankly, it just seems wrong. and, i just want equal representation for the votes that are given out there . votes that are given out there. it doesn't seem fair that , as it doesn't seem fair that, as you said, two thirds of the seats yet only a third of the vote, and it's not really a two party system anymore at all. but what keir starmer the question is, will keir starmer go along with his own mandate? he said party second, country first, so

country first. i think if we all demand it, how about a referendum on that ? listen, referendum on that? listen, norman baker, thank you very much. jo—anne nadler. i've got a good sorry very briefly. you've got 10s i've got to go to the news. what i would say is that, the unions and others in the labour party recognise the value of pr. >> i hope now that they've got power, they've got an opportunity to introduce it. that would be fair. >> i think that probably would be fair. james matthewson. thank you very much. former labour party spokesperson jo—anne nadler, lovely to talk to you . nadler, lovely to talk to you. former aide to david cameron and also norman baker, former liberal democrat minister. sorry. did you want to say something briefly, joanne ? something briefly, joanne? >> just very briefly. i wasn't an aide to david cameron a long time ago. we were colleagues, but i wasn't an aide to david cameron. >> oh, heads will roll. i'll have a word with them about that. thank you very much for that. thank you very much for that. we'll correct it. thank you. really good to talk to you. but so those are their thoughts. what are yours. stay tuned. loads still to come here on gb news. i'm nana akua. if you've just tuned in where have you been. we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it time for electoral reform? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, matthew lawson and lizzie cundy. still to come . my difficult

still to come. my difficult conversation. the uk's most tattooed woman, becky holt, will be here live to tell us about how she's transformed her entire body into a living canvas and take a guess how many tattoos she has. but first, let's get your latest news headlines. >> nana. thank you. the top stories this hour, sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's plans to send migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to deport a single migrant. he also said labour's election victory has given them a clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the united kingdom . former the united kingdom. former chancellor jeremy the united kingdom. former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled chancellor jeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat, godalming and ash and has previously tried twice to become conservative leader .

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mixed doubles clash with stiffness in her wrist. the 37 year old scot made his final appearance at wimbledon on thursday when he lost alongside older brother jamie in the men's doubles . and those are the doubles. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez, more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> right. coming up, royal round—up time royal biographer angela levin will be live to give us the latest from behind the palace walls. but next it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is it time for electoral reform? now? i've got to pull up right now on asking you that very question. is it time for electoral reform? send me your views, post comments gbnews.com/yoursay

welcome back. if you just tuned in. where have you been? right. it's time for the great british debate to start. i'm nana akua, andifs debate to start. i'm nana akua, and it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00. and i'm asking. the labour party has won asking. the labour party has won a landslide majority in the 2024 general election. they took 33.9% of the votes across the country, winning 412 seats. so that was a third of the votes. but yet two thirds of the seats within the house of commons, they picked up more than 9.6 million votes, whereas the reform party picked up over 4 million. yet they didn't have half the number of seats. the conservatives took a —20 point drop from 2019. they won 121 seats, so that was 6.8 million votes. and of course, sunak kept his seat. but his leaving

downing street now, despite winning just five seats, reform uk 14.3% of the vote, the third best party vote share but 4 million votes overall. the lib dems behind reform 12% of the vote share but 3.5 million votes, 71 seats. how does that work? greens plaid cymru and got less than 3 million votes between them . so what do you between them. so what do you think? is it time to change the electoral system at all? i mean, joining me now, matthew laza and also lizzie cundy. lizzie cundy, what do you think? >> i think it totally should be changed. it totally is outdated. and it to me it's corrupt. how can it be fair reform won 14% of the votes. they only got five seats. when it's great, they got five seats, but they should have got a lot more by getting 4 million votes. the lib dems only got 12% of the share of the vote. yet they get they got less 72 seats. this is why there was such a low turnout. the lowest

turnout for 20 years, because some of my friends who i was very upset that didn't vote, said, well, it's not fair because whoever we vote for, it's not going to really make a difference . and that is the difference. and that is the worry. and i actually think it needs to be changed. but the labour party won't change it. >> well, it feels like it's rigged. matthew. well, i think i mean, you may be surprised, lizzie, but i agree with you that i don't think the voting system is fair. >> the truth of the matter is, i think the labour party is unlikely to change it because turkeys don't for vote christmas and they've got they've now got 400 odd mps, not all of whom would survive under pr. yeah, but actually it's labour policy to change it. but it's always ignored. exactly. i was going to say it was their policy to change it. >> and also, he said, country first, party second. yeah. so look the country , we should have look the country, we should have a referendum on this. >> absolutely. well we did, we did have we had a referendum and nobody ever nobody in 2011 on a change in the voting system, which was part of the deal with the lib dems and the tories, and almost nobody voted in. did you for vote change, lizzie? but you want now? >> i would now i didn't then, but it was a very different person then. i probably even

wanted to get back with my ex—husband. i'm a different person then. we need a referendum for this. >> i would be perfectly in favour. we could campaign together. lizzie might be the only time. well, actually, it would be brilliant. >> but i think we need to. and also about the postal votes. i think there's a lot of corruption going on there, and i think unless it's a real necessity, you shouldn't be doing postal votes. you know, how do you know it's a secret ballot? i think it's all very dodgy and rigged. right. >> well , they think it's rigged. >> well, they think it's rigged. i think it should be changed. i think it's unfair, but the show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome one of our great british voices. your opportunity to be on the show and tell us what you think about the topics we're discussing today. i've got alexander metcalfe. he's there in catterick. hello, zander. how are you doing ? are you doing? >> hi, nana. how are you ? >> hi, nana. how are you? >> hi, nana. how are you? >> i'm good, thank you. thank you very much for doing this . so you very much for doing this. so first of all, what do you make of the result. because of course, reform 4 million, over 4 million votes. but yet five seats, whereas the liberal democrats, 3.5 million and 71 seats. and of course, it goes on

with the other parties as well . with the other parties as well. >> absolutely, >> absolutely, >> i think it's always important in politics to mention some figures , figures, >> i think you've mentioned some already, but i've just got some on the top of my head. so reform got 4.1 million votes in this election , and they equate it to election, and they equate it to five seats. liberal democrats got 3.5 million votes, and that equated to 71 seats in the 98 constituencies. the reform party finished second and the labour party had a vote share of 35. now, as far as i'm concerned, i don't fit. i mean, that's lower than what they had under corbyn in 2017 and 2019. so as far as i'm concerned, i don't feel i have a real mandate to govern. >> yeah, well, a lot of people feel that it's a bit unfair. but having said that , now we are having said that, now we are where we are. we have to deal with it . what are your views on with it. what are your views on the labour party being those to lead this country and also you

mentioned reform as well. you voted for the first time. i know you voted for reform. what what are your thoughts on labour leading the united kingdom? >> unfortunately, under first past the post, we create a two party past the post, we create a two party system . party system. >> so unfortunately i'm not very happy myself, labour are really the only credible opposition. i don't trust keir starmer as a leader , i think he's more of leader, i think he's more of a liar , he doesn't have much liar, he doesn't have much charisma , you know, he's he's charisma, you know, he's he's quite boring, to put it bluntly, i quite boring, to put it bluntly, 1 many policies 1 know today they said the scrap. >> this is under your line. >> this is under your line. >> scrap the rwanda plan because your line it you obviously they your line it you obviously they your line it you obviously they your line is breaking up. >> zander were really sorry so we'll have to leave it there. but, alexander. but he likes to be called zander . oh, yes.

be called zander. oh, yes. i don't know that. yes. we met him actually, yesterday at the, at rishi sunak constituency very eloquent young man. 19. first time he voted. now, of course, the electoral system isn't corrupt because that's the way we do it. >> absolutely. but i do understand it's not people feel that. >> it's not. it's weighted in a different way . so therefore it different way. so therefore it doesn't seem to work. >> but i do feel, i mean , we >> but i do feel, i mean, we need to get the younger generation out there voting. it's to great see him and interested in politics, but it's a worry when people aren't voting because they're thinking, will it actually make a difference ? that's the point. difference? that's the point. >> is it? will it make a difference? indeed. well, stay tuned. this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, difficult conversations. the most tattooed woman in the uk, becky holt. she'll be live to give us her story about her body transformation. next at 11 will be here in my royal roundup to give us the latest from behind the palace walls.

minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel now. there's always something going on in the royal household. this week's been no different in every saturday. i like to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than royal biographer angela levin? angela. hello nice to see you. >> thank you. right. >> thank you. right. >> what have we got today ? >> what have we got today? >> what have we got today? >> well, the first thing i want to talk about is, is harry, which is always pleasing for you, >> harry and meghan like gathering awards, right? but there's a big trouble with his latest one, and this one is to honour pat tillman, an american football hero who earned about £3 million a year and gave it all up to fight after 9/11. and unfortunately, he died in 2014. and this he was killed in afghanistan? yes, he was killed. yes. but by friendly killer. so it wasn't an espy gives out

annual awards for excellence in sports, decided that they would give the award to harry for his work with invictus games. now his mother, mary tillman's mother, mary, is absolutely furious, and she just doesn't want him to do it. and she says just one sentence why would they select such a controversial and divisive individual to receive the award, she's very annoyed about it. she doesn't want him to do it . and there's a now to do it. and there's a now about 600,000 people who are signing a thing saying he shouldn't do it. >> so you shouldn't pick up that award. >> yes. now, if he was a real gentleman, i think he would give it back. but they actually he and meghan love these awards. one of them was for, ripple of hope carried daughter of robert kennedy for dealing with human rights, promoting racial equality. and this was really

for racism in the royal family i remember it, yes. yeah. there isn't any race left . racism, isn't any race left. racism, racism in the royal family >> that was according to harry when he spoke to tom bradby. >> yes, yes. and, but he hasn't given that back. he's held it. and the one after that was living legend of aviation, which he was a helicopter gunman , an he was a helicopter gunman, an assistant pilot, really, and not assistant pilot, really, and not a real pilot. and several people high up in the military say this is not right. he shouldn't get it. >> sylvester stallone, that gave him the award as well. or was it the other one? no, no. was it sylvester stallone? >> but anyway, that's what he he goes for. and so i think it would be difficult to take away from him, which is, it'll be very difficult, actually. the mother's absolutely determined, and i think she's got a right. they didn't mention it to her, which was very rude. i think. yeah. but moving to on meghan, apparently this is very recent. she's still genuinely hurt by

how she was treated. oh, goodness. the royal families this is four years on. hang on. and she wants to now at last sit down and talk through things, we know that means she wants the royal family, king charles and everyone else to make an apology, but they don't. the person who should apologise is really her. but they don't want that. really her. but they don't want that . and she's also trying to that. and she's also trying to get beatrice and eugenie, who's on top of her list, to get people to help her sell her gems and she's really hoping that king charles might take one, too. now, i think that's a try. >> how do we know that, though? do we know that? >> well, it comes from quite a good source, but actually that would be her excuse to go there, that she wanted to make sure everything was nice. but it's also a way of selling her products. well, maybe. >> and i think that's actually beginning to think, okay, we need to try. and you know, bndge need to try. and you know, bridge some some, you know , bridge some some, you know, upset and try and i'd like to see them all reunited and all be

nice to each other. >> no, i think that's because they're getting so unpopular that they need the royals to sort of boost them up, because people aren't interested in them anymore. and i think that's the, the difficulty there. now, william, who's adorable, he's bought himself an electric scooter and he was seen today, yesterday whizzing around windsor castle. and apparently this is his eco conscious operating and so he doesn't want to drive there. and he goes in and talks to his father. they have lots of meetings and discussions and, they help each other. and it was he has to go three miles from where they, where they live. and he goes by by electric scooter. and there's a lovely picture of him in the paper going zooming around there he is showing it on the good zooming around, and i think to see that for the heir to the throne, you've seen so much amazing costumes and things that

he's gone outwith. and then actually, the real man underneath, zooming along , actually, the real man underneath, zooming along, in his, in his with his electric scooter. >> well, i hope he doesn't hurt himself. >> well, i think he should have a you should be wearing a helmet. helmet on. but, he's obviously enjoying it enormously. and of course, it would take him no time and it would take him no time and it would be a lovely thing to do. >> three miles on an electric scooter. >> yeah. and the other thing is, as one of my favourite people are , the, lady louise. and she are, the, lady louise. and she sings, got a boyfriend that she likes very much. and he came with her for a carriage driving when she was second in a competition. >> who's lady louise was she related to? >> she is the daughter of the duke and duchess of edinburgh. now that's lovely. and it's very nice that she's getting beautiful and happy. and hopefully she'll join the royal family and do some proper work for them. >> all right. age 11. thank you very much. lovely to talk to you. that is royal biographer angela levin giving us the

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conversation, i'm joined by becky holt . now she is the most becky holt. now she is the most tattooed woman in the uk. how many tattoos has she got? that's the question . take a guess then. the question. take a guess then. the great british debate this year i'm asking who should lead the tory party and we'll be getting the latest from germany. but first let's get your latest . news. >> nana thank you and good afternoon. the top stories this houn afternoon. the top stories this hour. sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's plans to send migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to deport a single migrant. he also said labour's election victory has given them a clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the united kingdom . the united kingdom. >> look, the rwanda scheme was dead and buried before it started . it's never been a started. it's never been a deterrent. look at the numbers that have come over in the first

six and a bit months of this yeah six and a bit months of this year. they are record numbers. thatis year. they are record numbers. that is the problem that we are inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent , inheriting. it has never acted as a deterrent, almost the opposite, because everybody has worked out, particularly the gangs that run this , that the gangs that run this, that the chance of ever going to rwanda was so slim , less than 1. was so slim, less than 1. >> the leader of reform uk, nigel farage, has reacted by claiming labour will struggle to deal with the issue of illegal immigration. >> what he said he would do it. at least he's kept a promise, i suppose. look, rwanda was never going to work. what keir starmer is proposing , which is, you is proposing, which is, you know, tackle the gangs well , know, tackle the gangs well, frankly, you know, the last government were doing that for the last few years. it's not going to work at the minute . going to work at the minute. it's wild and windy, but we do have some pretty strong first hand accounts that as soon as we get a calm spell, they'll be crossing the english channel in their thousands. and let's face it, keir starmer does not have a plan to deal with it. >> former chancellor jeremy hunt

>> former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership. when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat. godalming and ash and his seat. godalming and ash and his previously tried twice to become conservative leader. meanwhile, suella braverman has failed to rule herself out, saying simply there are no announcements . saying simply there are no announcements. in saying simply there are no announcements . in other news, announcements. in other news, police in tenerife say jay slater's family can bring in their own search and rescue teams to look for the missing teenageh teams to look for the missing teenager. the 19 year old went missing on the 17th of june after setting off on a walk back to his accommodation in tenerife, a journey which would have taken around 11 hours. police called off the official search last week, but slater's mother says they will stay on the island to look for him. in the island to look for him. in the us, president biden is refusing to take a cognitive test to determine if he's in a mental decline. in an exclusive interview with abc news anchor george stephanopoulos, he also

dismissed calls from some democrats to step aside and let a younger candidate take on the republican. donald trump. biden has been attempting to defuse the political crisis over his shaky debate performance . he shaky debate performance. he claims he simply had a bad night. >> he had the specific cognitive tests. and have you had a neurologist specialist do an examination ? examination? >> no, no one said i had to. no one said. they said, i'm good. >> would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests and release the results to the american people? >> look, i have a cognitive test every single day . every day i every single day. every day i have that test. everything i do . have that test. everything i do. >> the uk government has announced a new support package for caribbean countries affected by the destruction of hurricane beryl . new by the destruction of hurricane beryl. new foreign by the destruction of hurricane beryl . new foreign secretary beryl. new foreign secretary david lammy has increased funding up to £500,000. the money will be used to help those whose homes and livelihoods have been impacted by the category

five hurricane, and that aid package also includes hundreds of emergency shelter kits capable of supporting up to 4000 people. sport, now in england have. people. sport, now in england have . just kicked off with have. just kicked off with switzerland in the euros football tournament. the three lions looking for a spot in the semi—finals. the prince of wales, who's also the fa president, is set to be in attendance at that quarter final tie today . switzerland haven't tie today. switzerland haven't beaten england in the past 13 attempts since 1981. and the princess of wales has paid tribute to andy murray, saying he should be so very proud after he should be so very proud after he missed out on a final match at wimbledon. the former world number one, murray's wimbledon career is now over after emma raducanu pulled out of their mixed doubles clash with stiffness in her wrist. the 37 year old scot made his final appearance at the all england club on thursday when he lost alongside older brother jamie in the men's doubles. he'll head off on holiday with his family

now before preparing for the final event of his career at the olympics in paris. final event of his career at the olympics in paris . and those are olympics in paris. and those are the latest gb news headlines . the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you tatiana. this is a gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua for and the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours will be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is author and broadcaster lizzie cundy and also former adviser to the labour party. matthew laza still to come at my difficult conversation today is with the most tattooed woman in the uk, becky holt. slightly awkward

there. she was recently in the spotlight for appearing on this morning, wearing a bikini next to the former prime minister, rishi sunak. then stay tuned for the great british debate this houh the great british debate this hour. i'm asking who should lead the tory party it's as former chancellor jeremy the tory party it's as former chancellorjeremy hunt rules chancellor jeremy hunt rules himself out of the running. he has put his name in the hat in the 2019 and 22. but he told gb news that the time has passed for him to launch a bid. news that the time has passed for him to launch a bid . as for him to launch a bid. as eveh for him to launch a bid. as ever, send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . so just gbnews.com/yoursay. so just coming up to seven minutes after 5:00, it's time for this week's difficult conversations . and now difficult conversations. and now i'm joined by a woman who is known for her extensive tattoo coverage and has been dubbed the uk's most tattooed woman. becky holt . she's a uk's most tattooed woman. becky holt. she's a model and influencer and a mother of one. she transformed her body into a living canvas, following tens of thousands of pounds on intricate designs covering her skin, and

is now using her platform to advocate for body positivity and self—expression. and i'm pleased to say that becky joins me now. becky, welcome. hi, nana. >> how are you ? >> how are you? >> how are you? >> i'm good, thank you. how are you? >> i'm really well. thanks. and thank you so much for having me on the show today. >> a pleasure. i saw the appearance on this morning and couldn't stop laughing. he was very awkward there. it was all a bit of a. >> yeah, it was a bit, you know, he was really lovely. it was really nice to meet him. an opportunity i never thought i'd ever have. so it was lovely for me and i'm sure it was lovely for him too. yeah well he won't forget, you know. i hope not. no. it was really nice. >> i think some were hoping he was coming in the bikini. no, no . was coming in the bikini. no, no. becky, talk to me about why and how you began tattooing. when did it start? >> so i was 15 years old when i had my first tattoo. it was my boyfriend's name. and obviously we're not together anymore. and that tattoo also doesn't exist , that tattoo also doesn't exist, and it just sort of started from there, really . i'd, i just and it just sort of started from there, really. i'd, i just had this obsession with them. and once! this obsession with them. and once i started getting tattoos, i thought, you know what? if i'm

going to be tattooed , i'm going going to be tattooed, i'm going to tattoo my whole body, and i also really like the, you know, the cover girls that were on the tattoo magazines and stuff like that, so , yeah, i just went for that, so, yeah, i just went for it. and here i am, 20 years later, absolutely covered, but still going, well, you're beautiful, people might say, but why have you put them on your face? i ran out of space. simple as that. yeah. you know, i always said i wouldn't do it. i always said i wouldn't do it. i always said i wouldn't do it. i always said when i started getting tattooed that i wasn't a fan of neck tattoos and. and i didn't like them on the hands. and then as my, tattooing progressed, i guess, you know, that's just something that i decided i didn't want to leave out. and, you know , i wanted to out. and, you know, i wanted to cover those bases as well. and yeah, i did . yeah, i did. >> well, they actually look really good. thank you. now, i've been asking the viewers to guess how many you've got. do you know how many you've got? >> no idea. >> no idea. >> i've been doing this for 20 years. i have lost count of all the sessions i've had, i just don't know. it's one big one. just one big one. >> to estimate how many times you've had tattoos. >> i honestly, i couldn't even

it's hundreds. i've had hundreds of sessions over the last 20 years. i literally couldn't put a number on it. so i just say i've got one big one. >> now, i was going to ask you got rid of that tattoo of your, your first ever tattoo when you were 15. where did you where was the tattoo? >> so it was right across my crotch. oh, yeah. it was my boyfriend's name. literally right on my panty line. yeah not my wisest decision. >> your parents? >> your parents? >> oh, my dad went mental. yeah, my dad went absolutely mad at me. and it was my dad who actually paid for me to cover it up. yeah. so. yeah. thanks dad. >> that's the biggest regret with tattoos that you've had or. >> yeah, i mean, i there's some now which i wish i hadn't had, like just my hands. just. yeah. my hands i don't like i want to get them redone . get them redone. >> oh. oh. >> oh. oh. >> so your hands are a difficult one to tattoo because the skin is different. and so once when you put the design on and i feel like it looks great, and then the heel and it doesn't look that great. okay. yeah. so i just want to get them covered up. but i mean i'm happy with everything so far. like it's a it's a work in progress. it's,

you know, it's non—stop. i've been doing this all my life. i'll continue to do it all my life. well, it's been quite, a quite a good thing for you. >> it's been quite entrepreneurial really, because you have your own fans. yeah. yeah. how does that go? >> you know, i'm kind of actually, like, not really doing onlyfans anymore. it's it exists , onlyfans anymore. it's it exists, but it's, it's like a career that i've sort of left my hand and i've moved on to a new career path. what are you doing now? i work with adults with learning difficulties, so i'm like a support worker. and i go to, yeah, i go to work with them and help them sort of thing. yeah >> yeah, that's really lovely, isn't it. yeah. and you have a, you have a young child as well i do, i've got a three year old girl. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and what does she do. does she look at your tattoos. and she look at your tattoos. and she noticed that mummy has a tattooed face and the other mommy's probably don't. >> do you know what? at first i thought, like, she didn't really pay thought, like, she didn't really pay much attention to them. and then once, like, my friends would come around who had tattoos, she'd be like, oh, you've got tattoos, like mummy. and then, she said that she wanted them. so we got these little transfers, you know, like you had when you were kids, when we were kids. sorry. and we'd put those on her, and. yeah, she

does have an interest in them. and if she's good at art, i'll push her to be a tattoo artist. it's a great career. >> and would you. would you mind her tattooing, having lots of tattoos like you? >> i wouldn't mind at all. providing them were done correctly by a good artist. >> yeah, because it's quite some places it can be quite dangerous to get tattoos. what are the things for people to look out for if they want to do what you're doing? >> yeah. there's like i think years ago there used to be a lot of backstreet tattoo artists and people that tattooed in the kitchen nowadays, it's much more professional, and yeah, there's a lot of really, really incredible artists out there that didn't exist when i started getting tattooed. you know, we got all the sort of we had to deal with all the rubbish and we learnt from our mistakes now. so now i know you're not going anywhere terrible. like, i'll make sure you get a really, really good artist to do your work. >> and is there a particular favourite tattoo of yours that actually means something quite deep and personal. >> i've got lots of tattoos that have lots of meaning. i've got my daughter's name, i've got my parents, i've got my grandma's favourite flower, i've got one for my sister, one for my best friend, one for my boyfriend. like i do have lots of them that

have got meaning. i think my favourite tattoo is my around my face and my torso and my chest and stuff. it's very intricate and stuff. it's very intricate and very nicely designed and i love the artists work who did the art for me. so yeah, i think those really well framed it frames your face really nicely. >> thank you. you know, as long as you don't sort of like put on loads of weight and suddenly your face goes out. >> well, do you know what it's interesting, actually, when i, interesting, actually, when 1, before i had my little girl, sorry. when i had my little girl, i gained six stone. and then i was hired to do, that were the covid like a social experiment, you know? and they covered all my tattoos. and because i had this extra weight on me, i was not used to seeing what i saw when they took all my tattoos away. and they covered them all up with makeup and showed what i looked like. i was in shock because i had such a big, you know, i felt like i had a really big jaw and i had this double chin and i had this extra weight on my face and i was like, oh my god, get it off. like, it's not me. and i now i've obviously lost the weight, but still, i would never get rid of my face tattoos because i

feel like they do really frame me and shape my face and it looks better. yeah >> so, so getting rid of tattoos because you've obviously got rid of one that you didn't like. yeah. is that a bit of a nightmare? >> it's a very painful process andifs >> it's a very painful process and it's a long process. so laser it doesn't just take one session. it can take 5 to 10, maybe 15 sessions in some occasions, depending on the size of the piece, and yeah , collar. of the piece, and yeah, collar. it's really, really difficult to get rid of collar tattoos . and get rid of collar tattoos. and then you have to space these appointments out as well. six weeks to let your body heal. so yeah, it can be a really lengthy process to get rid of them. it's easier actually just to cover them up if you can. >> yeah. yeah. i just don't do them in the first place or make sure you what you know, you've got to do it. >> you know you've got to get the tattoo. >> i do really good ones on dark skin. i've seen it. >> and there are some really good ones. >> no, but most of the black people i've seen with tattoos, they just look mouldy. >> i know what you mean. i have seen some that i feel like the skin has been too dark to have the tattoo in the first place, because if you've got dark skin and then you're trying to put something on dark, you just tend to look like you've got dark,

darker shades on your skin, whereas on white skin, it's obviously shows up a lot more. >> yeah, that doesn't work unless you can't put white tattoos on. you can. >> yeah. yeah. no, that's the thing. is it. yeah. yeah. that's the thing. google it. oh yeah i think now you are campaigning for positive body positivity. >> talk to me a bit about that. >> talk to me a bit about that. >> i mean i'm all for it. yeah. you know, i just think that everybody should be able to express themselves the way, you know, if you are happy in your skin, then that's what you should be doing. >> well, you should just be happy. euros be thankful because you know, you've only got one set of skins, i think, not less . set of skins, i think, not less. there's something in the afterlife, but i make the most of this now, just in case nothing exists later. >> yeah, i mean, i get a lot of grief for the way that i look. a lot of people say to me, well, what's it going to look like when you're older? but i'm not living for then. i'm living for now. and this is sort of like, this is the lifestyle i've chosen to live, and a passion that i've had since i was a very young age. i'm not just going to suddenly decide, oh, i made a mistake. you know, when i'm 60, i'm not going to go, oh, no, what have i done? i do, i know i doubt it, no, i doubt it .

doubt it, no, i doubt it. >> i don't think so somehow. so your next big thing, have you got a next big move to do. is there something that's coming up that you can tell? >> not really. i'm just focusing on my work. with, you know, with the disabled adults that i work with. that's just what i'm doing at the moment. i also have a little pub job, which i do. oh, i love that, you know, i'm just working with. and i have my daughter, so i'm spending loads of time with her, and that's about it, really. i'm very normal, you know? i've just got a normal life now, all this being with the prime minister and stuff is, is very different to what i've been used to for the last couple of years because i've been quite chill, really. i've, you know, just been getting tattooed and staying at home, being a stay at home mum, going on holiday, you know, just the normal stuff. >> well, listen , it's really >> well, listen, it's really lovely to meet you, becky. >> thank you so much for coming in.thank >> thank you so much for coming in. thank you for having me on the show. >> to be fair. i mean, i'm not a fan of tattoos, but they suit. you look beautiful, and i actually do like the ones on your face. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> it's a risk. if you're going to do that, make sure you know. oh, yeah, you've got to know where they're going. yeah. >> no, it shocks people. it really does. i get really bad

feedback sometimes. but you know what? it's my face and it's my body. i don't care if you've not got tattoos. so why do you care if i've got them? that's what say. >> stick it to them. thank you very much, becky. >> thank you so much. that is becky. >> she's considered one of the most tattooed women in britain. and i think she looks fabulous. but right now, it is time for the great british giveaway. your chance to win our biggest cash prize so far. an incredible £30,000. it is totally tax free, which means you get all of it. here are all the details that you need to take part. >> summer could be a scorcher with your chance to win £30,000 cash. our biggest cash prize to date . it's totally tax free, date. it's totally tax free, which means you get to spend every single penny however you like. what plans would you make with an extra £30,000 cash in your bank account? take your family on the ultimate holiday. buy that treat that's always seemed out of reach, or just put it in the bank for a later date. however you'd spend it. make sure you don't miss out for another chance to win £30,000 in tax free cash. text cash to 63232. text cost £2 plus one

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britain's news channel. and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking who should lead the tory party now, this is, as former chancellor jeremy party now, this is, as former chancellorjeremy hunt rules chancellor jeremy hunt rules himself out of the running, and he's put his name in the hat. he put his name in the hat in 2019 and 2022. but he told gb news that the time has passed for him to launch a bid. so for the great british debate this year, i'm asking who do you think should lead the party? well, joining me now, former adviser to david cameron, philip blonde, political commentator peter spenceh political commentator peter spencer, also political commentator. stephen carlton—woods right. i'm going to start with you, phillip blonde. who do you think should lead the tory party >> well, i think we've got to sketch out the what? >> where they need to be from . >> where they need to be from. most crucially, they need to speak to the, to the, the, the reform voters who , who have so reform voters who, who have so have taken two thirds of the conservative vote and that means that they have to be or speak to

the right, that is, speak to the concerns of those reform voters. >> but it also has to, you know, the conservative party has to make a decision about which group of voters is most important to it, what it can't do is try to appeal to the left and the right at the same time, and the right at the same time, and do neither, which is essentially what the 2014 offer has been . has been. >> so there's a sense in which i think it has to come from the right, but it's got to be a new source of right. the right that miriam cates has spoken about that doesn't do the hard economic liberalism that have put so many people off and put, for instance , liz truss out of for instance, liz truss out of out of office. it's got to be a new offer that for the people who haven't benefited from the last 30 or 40 years, that also could appeal to a middle class that has now turned left. and i think that's the triangulation that's needed.

>> do you think, do you think if they appeal to the right so the sort of maybe suella braverman, but then that's just being conservative? i thought, surely peter spencer isn't that just being conservative rather than this lily livered approach that a lot of people may say the conservative party have showed ? conservative party have showed? >> well, i mean, the conservative party, which has always traded as a broad church, has shown itself in recent years as little more than a loose coalition of warring tribes, which in large measure, i would argue, is the reason why the punters on thursday told them to do one. >> if you'll forgive my relapse into the vernacular there, i mean, they do have an existential identity crisis, which has to be resolved. do they go firmly to the right or firmly to the left? >> they can't be a bit of both. >> they can't be a bit of both. >> that very manifestly is the case. now, the question is, i mean, if someone like james cleverly, for example, gets the job, penny mordaunt, i see he's

got on the screen. i mean, she, she's, she's out of it because she's, she's out of it because she lost her vote, not lost her seat, james cleverly comes into into the frame potentially alternatively , and then of alternatively, and then of course on the right we have suella braverman who is, who's actually came out of the traps effectively a few days ago. and in fact, there's been out of the traps for months. >> let's get real here. >> let's get real here. >> now, if she if she does get it, the question is , does she it, the question is, does she link arms with nigel farage and reform? now there are only a handful of reform mps. that is true. but at the same time they did get more than 4 million votes at the last election. so it's very, very tempting now. nigel farage has said he won't. he won't under no circumstances will he join up link arms with them. but at the same time, just a few weeks before the election was called , he also ruled was called, he also ruled himself out of standing for it at all, which only goes to prove that you can equate the two. >> i don't think you can equate those two. i think that's totally different. >> take my point. i mean, think

things can change. that's my point. do you think, yeah. yeah they can. yeah. i mean , although they can. yeah. i mean, although one could also argue that nothing is ever true in politics until it is officially denied . until it is officially denied. >> well, let's go to stephen pound. what's your thoughts on this? i mean, i think reform and the conservative party are two very different parties , but what very different parties, but what do you think? yeah, yeah . do you think? yeah, yeah. >> no, no, the conservatives have got! >> no, no, the conservatives have got i mean, both of your speakers have actually put their finger on the same pulse, if you like. look, the tories have got to decide where they're going to go. are they going to try to out labouh >> labour. you know, in the sort of social democratic centre ground. >> are they going to try to out, out reform reform to the right wing or are they going to, you know, move on to some sort of populist pan—european, maybe, you know, left wing thing. >> so if, if robert jenrick wants to for stand the right wing, if tom tugendhat wants to stand for the left, if victoria atkins wants to stand for the middle, it's almost irrelevant because the key person here, the kingmaker, is nigel farage. >> if suella braverman or kemi badenoch want to stand, or priti patel, all all he has to do.

nigel farage will speak to the conservative party members who, after all, elect the leader and say if you choose person x, i will not stand against them. if he made that offer, then you can absolutely 100% guarantee that that person would get it. if however, the tories decide to change and go back to the old system of having the hundred and whatever it is, mps elect the person, then it will probably be somebody like tom tugendhat. so the key question here is where do the tories want to go? what pond are they fishing in? because they cannot fish in the same pond as the labor party. we've actually taken all the fish from that pond . fish from that pond. >> well, you say that, but i think the tory party, their behaviour over the last year is somewhat embarrassing. do you really think that any of the parties will want to affiliate with them ? philip. most people with them? philip. most people looking at i mean, we saw how rishi announced the election in the rain. i mean, that was terrible . the music, things can terrible. the music, things can only get better. he stood under the exit sign in the titanic quarter. he left d—day early . i quarter. he left d—day early. i mean, these are just some of the ones! mean, these are just some of the ones i can remember. and this is

just this is just in the last sort of six months. it's not evenin sort of six months. it's not even in the year who would want to associate with them and unite with them with all of that ? with them with all of that? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean , look, what what we're >> i mean, look, what what we're seeing here is the failure of the thatcherite economic and social offer. >> what we've had since david cameron's election in 2010 is the same economic policy, the same social policy, and it's failed. >> we've had social liberalism that has driven people into the arms of reform, that has enabled woke ideology to penetrate our schools and all levels of public service, and the government did nothing about that. and it's also presided over economic failure. you know, we have we never responded properly to the financial crisis. our productivity has dropped. and we're a poor country with quite a lot of rich people in it. if i

can put it like that. so we need a completely new economic and social offer. and the question is , is who can deliver that? and is, is who can deliver that? and i think it's got to be because the people who are voting for a reform are are people who are left economically of where the, the, the conservative government was and right socially the future for the conservative party has to be turn , turn left party has to be turn, turn left economically and right culturally. and that is the triangulation that can appeal to those who voted for liberal democrats and to reform voters, because that is where both reform voters are and a substantial proportion of tory labour switches and tory lib dem switches. >> stephen, stephen, do you think he's right about that, or do you think the memory of these last i mean, this last year, which is in most people's mind, but also the last 13, 14 years, is just a bit a bit too hard for

anybody to think about uniting alongside that party. >> well, i take your point. i mean, you wouldn't wouldn't necessarily want your daughter to marry them if that was that case. you know, the reality is we got five years to the next election. we've got a long time to go and there's plenty of water is going to flow under the bridge. it's going to be by elections. there's going to be splits. you know, the labour party, is not actually known for being entirely cohesive. we don't all love each other like brothers and sisters, disraeli said the tory party was an organised hypocrisy. well unfortunately, all parties are coalitions and some are less coalition than other. but look, the reality is they've got to decide once and for all where do they want to go. and i think what philip said was very, very interesting. populism is something you can't define as left or right. you can have it partially economically left , partially economically left, socially right or vice versa. i think they could well be looking at meloni. they could be looking at meloni. they could be looking at what's happening in other some of the other european countries and thinking populism is the answer. but the countries and thinking populism is the answer . but the reality is the answer. but the reality is the answer. but the reality is if they need to actually sit down, i don't think they need to make a decision here and now. so do it. >> leader. so so if you were to say, say somebody give me a name of who you think right now could

lead that tory party. we've got about 10s left. so stephen pound iain duncan smith okay we'll go to philip haaland suella braverman or robert jenrick and, finally peter spencer , i think, finally peter spencer, 1 think, james cleverly, if they want to get re—elected , nigel farage get re—elected, nigel farage would dearly love the job. do you think so? thank you so much for your thoughts. former adviser to david cameron phillip blonde, former labour mp stephen pound , also former and also , say pound, also former and also, say your name twice. i'll crack on. well, listen, thank you so much to you peter spencer as well. well, listen stay tuned. loads to come here on gb news. i'm asking who should lead the tory party. get in touch. gbnews.com/yoursay but first, let's get your latest news headunes let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you very much. and good afternoon. these are the top stories from the gb newsroom . sir keir starmer says newsroom. sir keir starmer says rishi sunak's plans to send

migrants to rwanda is now dead and buried . speaking after the and buried. speaking after the first meeting of his new cabinet, the prime minister ruled out the controversial scheme, which had failed to deport a single migrant. he also said labour's election victory has given them a clear mandate to govern in all four corners of the united kingdom . former the united kingdom. former chancellor jeremy the united kingdom. former chancellorjeremy hunt has ruled chancellor jeremy hunt has ruled himself out of standing for the tory leadership. when asked, he told gb news that the time has passed. he managed to hold on to his seat godalming and ash and has previously tried twice to become conservative leader . become conservative leader. police in tenerife say jay slater's family can bring in their own search and rescue teams to look for the missing teenageh teams to look for the missing teenager. the 19 year old went missing on the 17th of june, after setting off on a walk back to his accommodation in tenerife, a journey which would have taken him around 11 hours. police called off the official search last week, but slater's mother says they will stay on the island to look for him and england have kicked off with

switzerland in the euros football tournament. it's still nil nil 30 minutes in the three lions looking for a spot in the semis. switerland switzerland haven't beaten england in the past 13 attempts since 1981. the princess of wales has paid tribute to andy murray, saying he should be so very proud after he should be so very proud after he missed out on a final match at wimbledon. the former world number ones wimbledon career is now over after emma raducanu pulled out of their mixed doubles clash with stiffness in her wrist. the 37 year old scot made his final appearance at the all england club on thursday when he lost alongside older brotherjamie in when he lost alongside older brother jamie in the when he lost alongside older brotherjamie in the men's doubles . and those are the doubles. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i am tatiana sanchez. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward

>> good afternoon. i'm nana. akua. this is gb news on tv , akua. this is gb news on tv, onune akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking who should lead the tories now, this is, as former chancellor jeremy tories now, this is, as former chancellorjeremy hunt rules chancellor jeremy hunt rules himself out of the running . he himself out of the running. he told gb news that his time had passed for him to do this. so what do you think? who should do it ? we've got lots of different it? we've got lots of different options, different people who could potentially go for it. there's james cleverly, some have suggested suella braverman, who may have may throw her hat in the ring. kemi badenoch so many options, but who do you think should do that? so let's see what my panel make of that. joining me now, matthew laser. and also lizzie cundy matthew laser. >> so i mean i don't like to intrude on private grief. and the battle really has begun. i think the key thing from, you know, my experience in the

labour party is pause. so we saw rishi saying that he's going to stay on as long as, you know, until the new leader is and we don't know what the procedure is. there's talk that he's going to change the rules, because in 2015, when i worked for ed miliband, ed resigned on the morning of the election. people don't realise how brutal we got on the train back from doncaster. and when we got to london i had to organise the resignation press conference and then he was literally stopped being the leader there. and then harriet harman went to the was the deputy went to the d—day, the deputy went to the d—day, the ve day commemoration. so pause and think otherwise. you might end up with a jeremy corbyn. so that's what i say. pause. have a think . pause. have a think. >> i don't normally agree with you matthew, but i agree. i think they've really got to take some time and think about what they want to do and who they are. they've lost their identity, they've lost what really conservative means that this wishy washy blue, the lib more liberal and lib dems and they're divided all this in, you know , fighting. that's what lost know, fighting. that's what lost them in the election. they you know it just destroyed them. so they need to take a step back and have a think of who they want to be. are they going to go

back to being true blue tories, or are they going to be this liberal style tories and more forward thinking and agreeing with all this woke nonsense? >> see, what annoys me is when people say, oh well, reform should join the tory party and they're two separate parties. it's like saying the liberal democrats should join the greens, or the snp should join the labour party. it's up to each party to be responsible for their own downfall or their own rise. >> i mean, i mean, suella, they're saying, you know, they should get in cahoots now with reform and nigel farage. nigel doesn't want anything to do with the tory party. he's totally let down by them . they, you know, down by them. they, you know, they've had 14 years of lies and what they did to brexit and he's totally upset with boris johnson, who will not be next in line, he's really let the country . has he been saying country. has he been saying boris. >> because i hear he said something recently. on he totally blaming the demise of the tory party on nigel farage. >> how about him? look at himself. >> absolutely . and you're >> absolutely. and you're completely right. i mean, what really annoys me, just as it seems to you just are you nana

is when people just think you can just stick together. the reform vote and the tory vote, it's complete nonsense. it's like sticking together the greens, the liberals and labour and certainly not under the current electoral system we have. you know, you make your choice and loads of labour ex—labour voters and non—voters voted reform and so you can't just read the two across. i mean, i think that the person that labour feared most was penny mordaunt. really because i mean, i think particularly in opposition, penny would have seemed a contrast to rather douh seemed a contrast to rather dour, to use that scottish word , dour, to use that scottish word, to be polite. some would say dull, sir keir, at least penny has a personality. and sort of. she was good when she was leader of the house. and the kind of those questions, but obviously she's now not an option, so i'm not sure there's anyone in particular that labour that labouris particular that labour that labour is worried about. labour just hoping that they kind of fight amongst themselves. >> but i think their in—house fighting has destroyed them. i think the tories are really toast and i think reform are the next alternative to the labour party. and don't forget they were running up. they were second place in 98 seats. it's incredible. and you know, but with every good government you need a good opposition. >> that is the first by—election

will be a big test. >> well, what is the point of opposition when you have such a large majority? i mean, unless they become their own opposition like the conservatives, when they had the 80 seat majority, they had the 80 seat majority, they didn't need an opposition. but as as philipp blom did actually point out , all parties actually point out, all parties are fragmented in different ways . are fragmented in different ways. so do you think the labour party are at risk of ending up sort of fighting like cats in a sack? >> i think the difference will be, yes. i mean, what you have in the labour party is there's a kind of core group. it's actually stayed about 20, which is a high percentage when you had fewer mps. but is now obviously more mps, smaller percentage from the traditional left. they got rid of the absolute sort of jeremy corbyn. i was about to be, politically correct sort of . absolutely, not correct sort of. absolutely, not sensible people, if i put it like that. but so they will voice up on issues, on certain issues. but generally all these new mps are going to kind of cut in and say, here's, here's what you're not going to see. is the five families with mark francois. there's five families of tories. i don't think we're going to see five labour families. doesn't mean they won't be the odd route. and i think gaza is obviously going to

be a big issue because of the impact it had on the muslim vote. >> well, listen, coming up, my quick quiz where i test the panel on all the different elements within the stone, the stories that caught their eye, but next it's time to find out what your views are. so let's speak to our great british debaters and our wonderful people's panel. they're joining me now. great british voices. find out what they think about the topics we're discussing right . who shall i start with? right. who shall i start with? i'm going to start with you, bnan i'm going to start with you, brian doogan. you're usually the last. i'll put you first today. what do you think? who should lead the tories? >> well, i hope you're putting me first, nana. >> because, i've been pretty, straightforward in terms of what i've been thinking, in terms of this election, and i think i've called it, pretty accurately. >> all the way in terms of who should lead the tories. clearly doesn't matter, >> the tories chosen, boris johnson, a buffoon. >> liz truss , who actually >> liz truss, who actually i felt sorry for in the end, she shouldn't have been there, it's clearly indicative of where the tories are. >> the tories and the right of

british politics really needs a real think about where the country is . country is. >> and i'm being serious now. nana, a real think a real long, hard think . hard think. >> were you talking to me? >> were you talking to me? >> he's talking to me. i look at myself, i can see myself in the monitor. >> look where you believe the country should be. >> because it's clearly not the moderate centrist ground. >> she's there either he's there, either headed in that direction or you're headed towards nigel farage. >> well, i think let me be honest. i think that let's not get overinflated with this victory here. they won a third of the votes and they got two thirds of the seat. the way this is set up. no no no no no no i listen to you for a bit brian. listen to this first past the post. that's fine. doesn't matter. it doesn't matter . matter. it doesn't matter. that's fine. yeah that's fine brian, but the bottom line is you're talking nonsense. >> it's the first past the post. >> it's the first past the post. >> we're talking about a different system. >> you're talking about a different system. >> now . >> now. >> now. >> no, i haven't actually said

very much. my point is this. that whilst i, you know, we could all see the trajectory the tories were disaster. we certainly don't want that lot running the country for the way they said that before the election you were talking all your debates are about how terrible keir starmer is, but how terrible labour are terrible. you haven't listened to anything , brian, brian, to anything, brian, brian, brian, you haven't listened. that's not true . no, i and you that's not true. no, i and you know that mama, i'm loving this. listen, brian. listen, brian, let me be very clear to you. it's okay, i actually think the tories were toast, and i've been saying they've been toast for quite some time. i don't like a lot of the way they were behaving. and in particular, the last year has been a disaster. i did not like the way they got rid of boris. i thought it was disgraceful and i did not like the way they got rid of liz truss. i thought it was horrendous. i did not like the way they behaved over the last year and i've made that very, very clear. right. let me go. you haven't made clear there's two other people, there's two other people, there's two other people. lee webb right. >> i think the conservative

party needs somebody stable and not somebody that shoots from the hip. >> and i think that person is either iain duncan smith or kemi badenoch, >> to be quite honest, i think the tories are going to be out for quite a long time. i think labouris for quite a long time. i think labour is going to implode in the next 12 months. >> i think there's going to be divisions there and i think the future is something like reform or an sdp style of party that doesn't go around, whether it's left or right, but is a populist movement that brings in common sense policies that most people. >> well, we'd all like to see that. adrian gel in shropshire. what do you think, adrian? >> well, actually , i'm. i'm with >> well, actually, i'm. i'm with you, actually. nana. i think that what's really important is that what's really important is that we've lost the tory party, has completely lost the blue end of the spectrum. it became a pink party, which was absolutely useless, totally incapable of making any decisions at all. now, if you look back to some of

the speeches of margaret thatcher, she was hugely anti—socialist. she was hugely pro freedom of speech , pro freedom of speech, pro—business, pro productivity , pro—business, pro productivity, pro—business, pro productivity, pro product, encouraging people to invest in the stock market and increase their , their, their and increase their, their, their pockets and their worth. that is what we now need. but the conservative leader, well, i think that will become, as lee suggested, from, iain duncan smith . i'm speaking smith. i'm speaking suspiciously. iain duncan smith lost his seat anyway. >> well, listen, we've got we're running out of time because because brian, brian, brian is so hell took it all. give me kenny told me to have a long, hard look at myself. you do realise i can see myself, right? okay, listen. thank you. i'm always looking at myself. i love looking at myself. i've got to be honest with you. thank you so much. brian doogan, adrian jul anna sewell in bedfordshire. there's my great british voices coming up. my quick quiz. i'll test the panel with some of the stories that caught their eye. next, we're going to cross live to germany and find out. well,

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so the three lions are roaring in germany. england and switzerland are currently going head to head in the euro quarter finals. fans have been enjoying their day out in germany, and we're hoping that we might win. so joining us now is gb news reporter sophie reaper, who is at a watch party in bolton, and also jack carson, who is in dusseldorf. right what does it look like? it's coming home. i'm going to start with you, jack carson seeing as you're there. >> well, to know what, it's been such a fantastic atmosphere all day. there are tens of thousands of england fans in dusseldorf for this quarter final. of course, we've just had the first half. it's been better, probably than what we've had before, but let's find out quickly. the view from a few england fans guys first half so far. what have you made of it? >> good enough for me son. it's

a hard one. to be fair. we knew we knew the swiss was going to be a good side, but you expect more being an england fan, don't you. but as it happened so far, is it? >> do you think we can still get through to the semis tonight? >> hundred percent. listen, there's 45 minutes left to go. england >> all right, well, there we go. it's a very quick view from some of the england fans. >> southgate's 100 of the england fans. >> southgate's100 gaming. you can hear the atmosphere before the language gets ipp you sophie reaper watch party, >> sophie, how's it going there? it's very quiet there. well, civilised where you are. it's not quite as crazy as it is for jack over in dusseldorf, i'm joined by andy critchley, who's the owner of this bar here in bolton. >> andy, what have you made of the game so far? >> it's, it's an odd one, isn't it? it's, it's . it? it's, it's. >> i wouldn't say it's frustrating, but it's better. certainly better than the other games. >> certainly better. i think i think the balance is better. >> we've had the chances, nerve

wracking . definitely nerve wracking. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> now i'm lucky enough to be in my hometown of bolton today. but not just my hometown. this is the street that i grew up on. and andy and i have been watching football together for years. we're both bolton fans. andy, what's harder to watch bolton wanderers or england? >> oh, crikey. so our last game bolton, wembley . yeah. bolton, wembley. yeah. >> so it's obviously it's obviously harder to watch england. let's be honest. this is safer. we've got to go. we're going to go to the quick pub quiz. lovely. that's sophie reaper out there right. yes. obviously it's harder to watch england. you know what they did to us last time. but right now it's to us last time. but right now wsfime to us last time. but right now it's time for the quick fun quiz. part of the show where i test my panel on some of the stories hitting the headlines right now. joining me broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. your buzzer please. yeah, i've got one, but no buzzers. okay. and also former adviser to the labour party, matthew lawson. >> i'll do through mine as well. >> i'll do through mine as well. >> all right. okay. right. first of all, question one, sir keir starmer has taken the keys to number 10. but who has the new prime minister named as his energy secretary? is it a david

lammy ? b liz kendall or c ed lammy? b liz kendall or c ed miliband ? miliband? >> i was you were early. while the question was still on. >> let me be very clear. you, lizzie cundy, weren't before i'd finished the question. so jennie bond ed miliband . absolutely bond ed miliband. absolutely right. ed miliband sorry, darling. right let's do next. that's right. if you got it at home, number two england are facing switzerland in the quarterfinals of the euros. how many times has england reached the quarter finals since the tournament was founded in 1958? closest wins lizzie cundy six five. closest wins lizzie cundy six five.the closest wins lizzie cundy six five. the answer six. on no, it's five. sorry, it was six. it was. camera six is five. however you press your buzzer before. no, no, lizzie went before me. i didn't , she went. no, no, not didn't, she went. no, no, not this time. i will let you have the point. right. how did joe biden describe himself in the radio interview but confused listeners all over the world? how did he describe himself? lizzie cundy as a black woman. >> okay, it's so many confusing things , i can't think. things, i can't think. >> okay. the answer is he described himself as the first black woman to serve with a black woman to serve with a black president . right. but he black president. right. but he said a man cannot stand. emma

raducanu has reached the last 16 at wimbledon this year. true or false? lizzie cundy. true >> it's true, but i'll say false. >> okay, well, it is actually true. what? lizzie cundy that's joint scores. final question. sir keir starmer was rumoured to be the inspiration behind which character in the film was it william thacker from notting hill. mark darcy from bridget jones or christian grey with 50 shades of grey? lizzie cundy b which is b it's b mark darcy. let's see if she's right . she let's see if she's right. she takes it. mark darcy sorry. matthew matthew laza winner. how could he do that? it was england. >> it was nice and it was b, but she got him first. i'm better on the buzzer on today's show. >> i've been asking, is it time for electoral reform? and who should lead the tories? according to our twitter poll, 90% of you say yes, we need electoral reform and 50% of you think suella braverman would lead the tories. interesting. yeah. who do you think, lizzie? quickly >> i think kemi, i think it's 1 >> i think kemi, i think it's! think it could be suella versus victoria atkins. >> right. >> right. >> well, i've got to say thank

you so much to my panel, lizzie cundy and also matthew laza. and thank you to you at home for your company. i will see you same time, same place tomorrow, 3:00. up next, it's the saturday five. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. welcome to your gb news. weather update from the met office. this weekend is sunny spells for some of us. scattered showers around but still feeling cool. we've got low pressure generally in charge. that's moving its way eastwards and northwesterly winds, giving that cool feel for the time of year. so through this afternoon, any showers gradually easing later on. so turning dry across parts of england in towards the south—east, but showers still continuing across parts of scotland and northern ireland before further showers come in from the south—west. temperatures tonight, though under the clear, spells 10 or 11

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disgraceful for our electoral system. >> while the media class is falling over, labour is embarrassing and pathetic and a new dawn has broken, has it not? >> it has not. 8:06 pm. and this is the saturday five. a very warm welcome to the saturday five. and thank you for choosing us over gareth southgate, because it's been a dramatic, momentous history making week after months of, well, even years of waiting, it finally happened. and we'll all remember where we were when we did it. and exactly 10 pm. on thursday evening, word spread from pub to pub, from to house house, throughout this green and pleasant land. benjamin butterworth had bought a round of drinks in this rare event occurred because benjamin was

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