begun a uk tour as he tries has begun a uk tour as he tries to reset the relationship between westminster and the devolved nations. sir keir starmer has been in edinburgh today where he's vowed that labour will deliver for scotland . labour will deliver for scotland. sir keir says he'll use his talks with first ministerjohn talks with first minister john swinney to set the framework within which we can work better for scotland . the home secretary for scotland. the home secretary has set out the first steps to establishing a new uk border security command to strengthen britain's borders and tackle criminal smuggling gangs. rapid recruitment for a leader used to working in challenging environments, such as the levels of policing, intelligence or the military, will kick off tomorrow with the new recruit expected to take up their post in the coming weeks. yvette cooper says a major upgrade in law enforcement is needed to stop illegal channel crossings >> no one should be making these dangerous boat crossings. this is undermining our border security as well as having lives being put at risk. but that's why we have to have a major

upgrade in law enforcement. and ihave upgrade in law enforcement. and i have immediately started the work on that in the home office. that includes the recruitment of a new border security commander, the establishment of a new border security command, and also the recruitment of new cross border police, including to work right across europe to tackle this problem at source. >> likely contenders in the tory leadership battle are starting to emerge using newspaper articles and interviews to say what they think went wrong, former home secretary suella braverman said rishi sunak could run an idiotic strategy and needed to take a tougher line on reducing immigration. x immigration minister robert jenrick said failing to reduce numbers was our biggest and most damaging failure, and former health secretary victoria atkins said the country was still instinctively conservatives, with labour's support spread very thinly, like margarine and the health secretary has announced he will meet junior doctors on tuesday in an effort to end strike action and to

discuss reform. wes streeting will first meet the british dental association tomorrow over changes to the dental contract and to kickstart 700,000 more urgent dentistry appointments. he'll then hold face to face talks with the british medical association junior doctors committee on tuesday for negotiations to end their long running dispute over pay. junior doctors in england have called for a 35% pay increase , and for a 35% pay increase, and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> labour have won a landslide. england are in a semi—final of some kind of tournament, and a 12 year old has been referred to a counter—extremist service prevent for stating there are only two genders. this is free speech nation . welcome to

speech nation. welcome to free speech nation. welcome to free speech nation. welcome to free speech nation with me josh howie. this is the show where we take a look at culture, current affairs and politics, and we don't mince our words. we'll also take a look at the latest offerings of our lovable culture warriors, who somehow still exist, even though they were supposedly just a figment of tory imagination. and labour have won a landslide. also coming up on the show tonight, a 12 year old has been referred to counter—extremism service prevent because, he said there are only two genders. i'm going to be joined by the writer, joe bartos, to discuss why there isn't a political party for gender critical women. we'll examine why sequels and reboots are destroying cinema, and of course, myself and my fantastic panel will be answering questions from our wonderful studio audience. please welcome my comedian guest for this evening, bruce devlin and jonathan kogan, who . gentlemen,

jonathan kogan, who. gentlemen, how are you.7 fine. jonathan kogan, who. gentlemen, how are you? fine. are you enjoying the new set? is this the first time you've been on the first time you've been on the new set? >> no, they've refreshed it. >> no, they've refreshed it. >> they've refreshed it. >> they've refreshed it. >> yes, but yes, you're here every week. >> so it's all. >> it's all here every week. >> it's all here every week. >> although it's a shame, they've obviously run out of money for the headliners. >> don't say such a thing. >> don't say such a thing. >> no, we wanted it. >> no, we wanted it. >> they've spent all the tesco clubcard vouchers. the headline no more the headliners viewership. >> they want it in a very particular. >> they want it the same. >> they want it the same. >> there will be developments happening along those lines. they got rid of my rider so i'm not happy. yeah i know, look at you. >> you're dressing down in protest. >> well, i used to eat sushi off a wonderful japanese man who they can't afford him anymore. >> so now he's just gone? yeah, because, i mean, in this climate, those were the good old kier. yeah, yeah. >> exactly. right. we're going to get some questions from the audience. our first question is from evgenia. evgenia. hello hello. >> is labour a good thing for the country? >> yes. well labour won a landslide this week. what do you what do you think? who did you vote for? do you mind saying. you don't have to say no

pressure. who'd you for , vote le pen? >> no telling you i. >> no telling you i. >> i'm still trying to make up my mind. that's why i'm asking. >> it's over. i'm afraid you're going to have to wait another five years. >> now , to do that? yeah, to do >> now, to do that? yeah, to do that gentleman . what do you that gentleman. what do you think? it was obviously big, that's the big news of the week of the last six weeks here. did you vote? yeah. did you do you mind saying no? >> i'm allowed. >> i'm allowed. >> well, i don't know how it works up north, i well, it's queer up north, so we can well imagine. >> no, i think the reason that you vote in a booth is because it's private. but i did vote. i did a postal. it arrived and my vote was registered. and i think in my area, i voted for the right person and i'm kind of glad it's over because it's been a long six weeks. >> and yeah, now we have to do the tory election for leadership. but yeah, it's, it's a it's a big deal. it's happened now do you think that change is here. >> i'm sort of cautiously pessimistic. it's like a you know, it's something, something i'm kind of i'm excited for

change, but i'm also kind of dreading how things could go. but at the same time, i'm just glad ed miliband's back so i can do the joke and stand up that i look like him. that's all i need, because people did not know who he was for the last three years. >> so yeah, that is terrible. thatis >> so yeah, that is terrible. that is pretty much sums up the comedian mindset is it doesn't really matter. it's like anything terrible happens in the news. it's like, oh, brilliant, i can do that joke. yeah we'll see if ed miliband is one of those terrible things, but yeah , those terrible things, but yeah, it's a strange reaction out there from people. some people are genuinely scared. i think, some people are excited. they do think there is going to be change. it is going to be interesting to see. do you think that keir starmer is has laid any indication yet of the kind of government that he is going to? >> i don't think your starmer's laid any indication of the type of person that he is, let alone government, to be perfectly honest with you, and i have nothing against him, but i don't feel that we know much more about him than when he came into his role than we do now. oh, all joking aside, so i think in this first hundred days he really is going to have to do something that really defines his leadership style. i'm i mean,

that's i mean, i think you're making a very good point. >> i think the danger, jonathan, of him being this kind of blank slate is that everybody can kind of put whatever they want to onto that. and in a way, it reveals more about them. i'm sort of a slightly optimistic person, and i'm slightly, optimistically hoping that he may turn out to be actually quite good and brave. >> he's a screen that we project on exactly. yeah, okay. i can respect that. what if he just, like, got rid of? i know he came in wearing shorts and that became his thing. he's like, no one would ever be that. i'm the shortest. >> yeah. i would take him to court. >> okay. yeah. it's. >> okay. yeah. it's. >> well, i guess the only thing we'll do is find out he did have.i we'll do is find out he did have. i thought it was a relatively impressive , relatively impressive, conference, front of the press and it seemed like he relaxed just a little bit into the role. he's obviously , it feels like he he's obviously, it feels like he spent five years planning to be here, to not say anything wrong. that might alienate some part of the audience and of his, of the potential voters. but now it's standing there. it sounded like he was actually more speaking from the heart. >> well, i think it was the case

that throughout the election it was like, nothing's a done deal. we can't be complacent. we can't do this. so he has been overly cautious, i think. so it's exactly what you say. he now has to believe that, you know it's done. and now he does have carte blanche in which to make his mark. and i hope he does. i thought, well, yeah, i thought it was quite good, >> sort of backhanded, passive aggressive compliments to rishi when he was like , you've got to when he was like, you've got to give it up for rishi. he was the first asian prime minister we ever had. all he said about him was that he was asian is like completely saying he's not done anything good. but isn't it good that he was asian? i don't know, i thought that actually both of them gave spoke well of each other, but that's just me. >> again, you would at that point slightly optimistic. well, we'll see if the show is here next week. then he's obviously got us through one more week, our next question is from gillian. hello. >> hello . hey, is independence >> hello. hey, is independence for scotland dead in the water? >> yes. so, scottish independence. might be dead. yeah. for a generation. joanna cherry has said that voters have become disillusioned with the

snp over its failure to progress the case of scottish independence. how do you feel, gillian, about this ? gillian, about this? >> well, given how badly they did in the polls, i think possibly it's, sleeping for a generation. well, we'll see. >> i mean, yes, i'm bruce, troubled sleeper, troubled , troubled sleeper, troubled, tossing and turning. yes, they , tossing and turning. yes, they, they, >> and you've begun . >> and you've begun. >> and you've begun. >> yes. i'm. »- >> yes. i'm. >> well, it's 48 to 9 seats. that's a huge decline. >> no, no, no , no, ace. >> no, no, no, no, ace. » i— >> no, no, no, no, ace. >> i even understand basic math like that . i'm well aware, i like that. i'm well aware, i don't think you have to remember. i do always get really annoyed on, political discussion programmes where they go. but you've got independence at the front of your manifesto. yes. they're nationalists , so the they're nationalists, so the clue is in the title. it will never go away for them . whether never go away for them. whether it is the case that the scottish people want it or not is a different thing. it was very interesting watching them on thursday night. it was also very interesting that nicola was employed as a pundit, but more of that after the interval, that

it was the case that, oh no, no, no, this was all just to get the tories out and whatever. and it's like, well, maybe you have to examine the fact that a lot of people were like, you're not particularly being that great at what we call the day job. and that's why we also want to change. it's not necessarily just to do with the tories. so inasmuch as the figures haven't really changed since 2014, that's the whole thing . it will that's the whole thing. it will always be important to the nationalists because that is their cause. and when they eventually because i do believe at one stage the country will go independent, i don't think it will be in my lifetime, but they would then, i would imagine, have to disband because they have to disband because they have no political currency, because that's their driving force. but do i think that they maybe need to focus on convincing people that they're actually all right? and no, but joanna cherry, she's she's very upset about a lot of things. and she hates nicola. i think they turned up in the same outfit. stole my look, that kind of thing , so i stole my look, that kind of thing, so i think that stole my look, that kind of thing , so i think that there's thing, so i think that there's kind of veiled agendas. >> well, she was accused of

bitterness and also losing her seat. she would probably rightly argue that she was on the wrong, the right side of history when it came to protecting women's rights. and it could be argued that really it all came down to the whole self—id policy that the whole self—id policy that the snp were trying to push through, it seemed like that was the turning point, because it seemed up until then, nicola sturgeon was very popular and now there's obviously the potential corruption that is being investigated that i should have mentioned. alleged. don't mention . mention. >> are we allowed to mention it? >> are we allowed to mention it? >> no. >> no. >> oh well, it's ongoing allegedly. >> that's why i didn't mention it. i just i just say i respect bruce's point, but i disagree. well no, that's what i'm saying, which is fair enough. >> andrew neil said something very funny that at least the nine people still with their seats will fit in the campervan. >> that is. you know what? if we cant? >> that is. you know what? if we can't? it's the little things, isn't it? it's good. the good thing is we may not be able to come up with our own jokes, but we're very good at quoting other people. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> now the difference between actually, i'm not doing that chris rock bit. >> no way. oh no. yeah, that'd be so. >> yeah. but, it will be interesting to see. and i wonder

if bruce sort of following on quickly from what you were saying, there's an element of be careful what you wish for, because i think maybe the scottish people saw what it would be like to have. well, they they had years of the snp leadership. and as you say, they didn't deliver on the things that were important to people, which were the services and roads and things like that. >> and again, but for people that are diehard nationalists and people that really want independence, the figures have not changed. and i think a lot of people feel that the snp are no longer the driving force of moving independence. i think they would look to go and vote for someone like alex salmond, and i don't know if it's pronounced alba or alba or whatever, but they seem to be alba a they seem to be more serious about it in some people's eyes. >> well, i'd, i'd say i've changed my mind. and i agree with bruce now. >> very good. that's what the show is all about. our next question is from phil. >> so france are going back to the polls for round two. can the far right win ? far right win? >> yes. so thank you, phil. it's lovely to have a resident

frenchman here to ask that question, so can the blue. indeed. i've never heard that donein indeed. i've never heard that done in an australian accent before, kiwi. kiwi. i oh, wow. wow. oh, no . the racism security wow. oh, no. the racism security coming from the front. okay, so can the far right win in france. far right. national rally of marine le pen poised to become the dominant force in the country's national assembly after a rest day with no political activity allowed, voting got underway across mainland france at 8 am. local time this sunday, with pollsters due to publish usually reliable seat projections as the last big city polling stations close at 8 pm. yes. so what do you what do you reckon? you've been following it closely. >> you know . say quoi? >> you know. say quoi? >> you know. say quoi? >> je ne sais quoi. je ne regrette general manager. trois >> so i don't understand the kiwi slang. no, no , that's what kiwi slang. no, no, that's what you said anyway . you said anyway. >> bruce, what are you working on? you've been following this a little bit, haven't we been

headliners? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i would say we i don't need one. but yes, i think that is the most probable outcome for this election. >> do you think. yeah. they're going to get in. >> definitely. of course. >> definitely. of course. >> i don't think it's going to be projected to be oh wow. someone's big. >> well i mean no, it's just like having a builder doing a quote for work in the house. >> he's not saying that he wants them to get in. he's just saying that he thinks that they probably will get in. i mean, you were able to say, my country's dead. >> let's move on, >> i'm not so sure about that, because i believe that the far left and the centrists have kind of joined, which is what they do, which arguably could be why macron called the election, because he knew that this would force the hand. and i think about 150 people have dropped out of their seats but say that they do get in. what will the change be in france, do you think? and what will be the change across europe, >> i think there won't be much of a cultural shift. i think the focus will be on immigration, as obviously that's a very big issue in france, which i think will also have trickle down effects for the uk . but at the effects for the uk. but at the same time, i did enjoy the

protests that happened immediately after le pen did so well in the first round. you had a bunch of, and this literally happened. you can see on youtube. i've watched it several times, a bunch of topless feminists sweeping the floor saying, this is what will happen under le pen. and i'm like , oh under le pen. and i'm like, oh no, no, it'll be terrible. but yeah, that's what happened. basically yeah. >> why are they part of a curling team? >> yeah, i think so. the curling, you know, top, top half , curling, you know, top, top half, completely bare curling olympics, foxy boxing. >> you're not going to believe this, but this is a news channel they're in now. no we have some news. and actually they have suffered what seems to be a major defeat as the left wing coalition that was just talking aboutis coalition that was just talking about is projected to have come first in the parliamentary election. and then this is to according exit polls. but as we said, they are usually quite accurate, so it seems like possibly macron's, plan has paid off. the other thing that this is improv or this real. no improv. i'm just this is a lot, mate. this is news. this is happening right now. yes. and yeah. no, there's no . and people yeah. no, there's no. and people won't get the and reference so they won't get the improv thing

but. well maybe you do and no, but. well maybe you do and no, but bruce, do you think that this was macron's plan because some people were saying that he actually wanted the far right to get in, or we use the term far right or . but he wanted the right or. but he wanted the opposition to get in because they would run the country. maybe he looked at the snp, saw how terrible they were doing and 90, how terrible they were doing and go, well, let them into power for a bit. they'll see that they're actually not very good at the job. and then when it came time for his presidential election, he would be revoted in. >> i'm not necessarily sure he knows who the snp are, to be perfectly honest with you. so i'm not. no, i think he'sjust been defeated. >> no. well, he's in this case, he's he's got through. >> i reckon he's playing the long game. >> well that's what politicians do. right. our final question for the moment is from anton. hello, anton. >> do you think we can get fall back in love with james corden? >> can we fall back in love with james corden? are you in love with james corden? were you ever in love with james corden when once you met him? what? >> what do you tell? >> what do you tell? >> was that a passionate evening? >> was that a passionate evening? >> no, quite covent garden.

>> no, quite covent garden. >> okay. >> okay. >> was he nice to you ? >> was he nice to you? >> was he nice to you? >> he was nice then. >> he was nice then. >> it was nice. and did he make you hold his baby? that's the famous story. if anybody knows that. that's not a euphemism, though. thank it that. that's not a euphemism, though.thankitis that. that's not a euphemism, though. thank it is when i do it, so thank you, anton. so yeah, this is about james corden. he delayed the start of a play in which he stars in the london theatre at the cast, and the audience could watch, england's penalty shootout at the euros game against switzerland on saturday. you're a football fan. >> i watched i watched the pens. >> i watched i watched the pens. >> you watched the pens, would you? do you agree with this? i mean, some people would argue that this is actually very thoughtful and some people who don't care about football would say, this is very selfish. >> if he wanted to be really nice to the audience, he should have just cancelled the whole play. i think that would have just been sort of the you're not in the camp, you're not a corden fan. he's fine. i didn't have that with him once. that was fun. yeah. and he's very nice. yeah >> no, i met him before and he was very nice to me and it was a

wonderful menage a trois, what about you, bruce ? what do you about you, bruce? what do you think? you're stopping the play or not? to watch football? >> i think he probably did that. he doesn't have a great. i don't understand why he bothers so many people . you know, he's many people. you know, he's written many things i object to him calling himself a comedian because i don't think he's ever done a gig. he's. no, he does this. >> i used to gig with him and stuff. he has he does do gig. i mean, it was all a bit one on one, but he got massive laughs and stuff, so i was right. >> and i'm moving on. i'm i just >> and i'm moving on. i'm ijust think from what i hear about off stage, he's kind of insufferable. there was something at pinewood he does a show for sky going around all the crew and all this kind of stuff, and someone who shall remain nameless said, name three of the crew. and he went, no, i'm not playing that game. and he went, because you can't. and he went, because you can't. and he was a bit difficult and all that kind of stuff. i feel sorry for him because he does seem to get slagged off quite a lot. he needs to stop singing. he ruined kylie's christmas album with a duet and that's why he should come work here. >> because the best thing about gb news is that it's all automated, so you don't need to. there you go. true name. right next on free speech nation. i'll

be joined by former police officer and free speech campaigner harry miller to discuss the insane case of a gay 12 year old boy who's been referred to the counter—terrorism service prevent for stating there are only two genders. see you in two.

welcome back to free speech nation. now, a 12 year old schoolboy has reportedly been referred to the counter—extremism programme prevent after he said there are only two genders. after posting a video online stating there's no such thing as non—binary. the boy's school told his mother that he was at risk of radicalisation by the far right. the mother told the daily mail that prevent also raised concerns over her son's response to. if any groups shouldn't exist. the boy who's jewish said that hamas should be wiped out with me now is the founder of

fair cop harry miller. yeah. hi. thanks for having us. welcome. thanks for having us. welcome. thank you so much for joining us. let's have a little round of applause. i think, i think everyone was a little bit too shocked by that story to. so tell us more. how did you get involved with it? i got involved a few a few weeks ago now. >> the parent rang me up and said, you're not going to believe this, harry, but, the school threatens to report my 12 year old boy, to the anti—terrorist unit because he'd come out and said that he was he was gay, not queer. i thought this was utterly ridiculous. so i thought, i this was utterly ridiculous. so ithought, i know this was utterly ridiculous. so i thought, i know what i'll do. i thought, i know what i'll do. i will see off the school. i will write them a letter from fair cop and tell them that i will have their asses. in the non—sexual sense. if they don't back off in the gay. yeah, yeah, yeah, the gay not griffiths. yeah, i'll have their asses in the gay, not queer sense unless they back off from this kid. and that was it. i thought no more about it until two weeks ago when i got another phone call to tell me that prevent the counter terrorist unit. we're going to be pitching up at their house on

a tuesday afternoon. so i did what i do best. i staged an ambush and i was there waiting for them. >> and, how did they respond? do they know you? they they familiar with your work? >> well, the very first thing they said when they knocked on they said when they knocked on the door was, is harry miller from fair cop here? and of course, they arrived early just to just sort of, you know, make sure that i wasn't there. so they did an interview without me. i got there on time at 230. and when i got there, i said, look , sorry i'm late. i think look, sorry i'm late. i think you were early, but could you please give me a recap? and what they said was no , we're not they said was no, we're not wasting your time or the parents time. we've already explained the terrorism problem with the parents, and we're not going to repeat it. and she said, but i didn't understand a word you said. and they said, well, we're not going to say it again. we're leaving. that's the end of the conversation. and off they went . conversation. and off they went. i followed them out into the garden and said, word for word, if you ever approach this family again, i will arrest the pair of you. and they said, what? i

said, you heard i will arrest you again, because what you are doing, you are the terrorists. you are criminally harassing this family. he has said something which is not even in the foothills of criminality. and if you come here again , i and if you come here again, i will grab you both by the scruff of the neck, and i will drag you down to the nearest police station, and we'll have it out there, because we do not have a stasi, a cheka or a gestapo in this country, and we don't have a home office or a police force that sends out the big guns, because a 12 year old boy has said , i'm gay, not queer. it's said, i'm gay, not queer. it's entirely wrong . now, to be fair, entirely wrong. now, to be fair, there was another aspect to this story this little boy had also posted on on his tiktok channel, which has got about ten subscribers, a little video of himself with a weapon. this is what this is what prevents said he was dabbling in weaponry, far right weaponry . now the weapon right weaponry. now the weapon that he was talking about there it is, was on the screen. it was

a it was a toy crossbow bought from english heritage. you can get them from amazon. now, i can tell you this. i watched the video and it's sad . tell you this. i watched the video and it's sad. i'm not a young man. my prostate is not what it was. but i can tell you now that i can pee further than that little boy shot that arrow. thatis that little boy shot that arrow. that is that is the fact of the matter. it was a foam arrow, a child's toy. but prevent and northumbria police and the lunatic chief constable vanessa jardine , who is so. who is so jardine, who is so. who is so pro lgbtq, i she's like a little , pro lgbtq, i she's like a little, little, little. she's got her own little militant group in northumbria. they said that because this boy did not embrace, lgbtq nonsense, because this boy had said that he wanted to see hamas wiped out and because this boy had been

playing with a little bow and arrow. this was terrorism. >> i mean , it's so insane, >> i mean, it's so insane, there's a few. well, there's a lot going on here. first of all, as you said, the boy is jewish. from what i understand, he was being bullied at school and receiving insults , including receiving insults, including people doing nazi salutes. now it gets worse than that. >> it gets worse that the parents told prevent and the and the police constable detective that was there said, look, my boy's been there. and when he got out of the shower, they asked him, is this what it was like at auschwitz? saying that to a jewish boy? and they said, well, that's not very nice, but that's not what we're here to talk about . we're here to talk talk about. we're here to talk about your son's radicalisation and your your boy's flirtation with weaponry. >> so they haven't actually investigated this or taken it any further. this, you know, what would arguably be hate crimes. no. >> this is this is the same force, of course, that investigated lindsay smith , who investigated lindsay smith, who is a newcastle united lesbian , is a newcastle united lesbian, for saying that she was lgb, not

lgbt. again, fair cop were involved in that. we did a sting on that one and got the entire thing recorded. and we'll be taking the chief constable to the to the high court because we do not have we must not allow we cannot allow a politicised police force in this country. i always think of her late majesty the queen. did we have a clue what she thought about anything politically? the answer is a great big no. she was nice to everybody, polite to everybody, smiled at everybody. but we had noidea smiled at everybody. but we had no idea what her views on anything were . that's what we anything were. that's what we need from chief constables. that's what we need from the police. we need them to be politically vanilla. we need them to serve without fear and without favour. and we don't . we without favour. and we don't. we don't need to know what their politics are because they shouldn't have any. well, true. >> but i mean , surely the issue >> but i mean, surely the issue is here now. prevent would probably say that they have a duty of care. they have to

follow these things through. this was recommended by the school. so if the school is now then calling up prevent, don't they have to investigate ? they have to investigate? >> no, of course they don't have to investigate. no, of course they don't. we've got our authorities, the home office, the police. they have a duty, first and foremost to weigh up the evidence. these are not gangsters. thugs for hire. you can't simply ring up the police and say, mammy, mammy and then expect them to go out and act on your on your complaint. you can't do that. the police are supposed to have a look at the evidence and go, right, okay, was this little boy making bombs dunng was this little boy making bombs during his science lesson? no. well, what was he doing ? oh, well, what was he doing? oh, well, he said he was gay. not queer like so what? what was he doing? what was he doing? well, he's been seen firing a little. a little bow and arrow with a foam tipped ends. well, that's not terrorism, is it? that's not a police matter. that's not even a police matter. that's not even a headteacher matter. >> well , to say yes. no, >> well, to say yes. no, absolutely. i mean, i mean, it's insane to say that hamas should be wiped out. they are a

proscribed terrorist, fundamental fundamentalist organisation , rapists, organisation, rapists, murderers. there's absolutely nothing wrong with saying that they should be wiped out. nothing wrong at all. you know, it's not in any way near illegal. and the fact that he's jewish and has been receiving anti—semitism himself. and the other thing, as you say, he said that non—binary isn't real, that that's a protected belief that you're allowed to say that. of course. absolutely. and also the fact he says he's gay and not queenl fact he says he's gay and not queer. i believe i read somewhere that 95% of lgb people think that queer is a is an insult. this is how it started. even though it's been re—appropriated by gender ideology. but it's an offensive word to many people. >> it is. but forget all of that. forget all of that. this is a 12 year old boy. now the fault initially lays with the school because we have we have basically political commissars in the school who are reporting children for wrong thing. so it starts there. it then moves on to the police. the police have got political commissars running them and he moves on to the home office because it seems that

they have also got political commissars running the home office. you cannot send the anti—terrorist squad under detective detective constable to a person's home because they've said this. because a 12 year old has played with a child's toy and said something which 99% of the population agree with, you cannot do that. you simply can't. >> you're saying they cannot do it. the problem is , of course, it. the problem is, of course, they have done it. so what is they have done it. so what is the next step ? first of all, the next step? first of all, what's the next step in this particular case? and how is the 12 year old boy? and secondly, what can be done to stop this? >> well, what we're going to do, we are going to take the chief constable of northumbria, vanessa jardine , to the high vanessa jardine, to the high court. i've done it before. i want a massive case in in 2020 against the chief constable of humberside and the entire college of policing, and we will do it again. i am not afraid of chief constables. i am not afraid of the police . i'm not afraid of the police. i'm not afraid of the police. i'm not afraid of the home office. and when they behave like criminals, i will treat them like criminals and i will drag them through the

courts. that's what i'm going to do. that's why fair cop exists. and every chief constable in the country who is political needs to be very, very afraid of harry miller and fair cop because we are coming for them. >> and how is the 12 year old boy? well, the follow up being he's absolutely distraught. >> of course he's distraught . >> of course he's distraught. what 12 year old would not be distraught when the anti—terrorist unit come round? the parents are absolutely distraught. this child has got to now go back into the school where the staff members, who are supposed to be safeguarding him, have reported him to the anti—terrorist unit. this is deeply homophobic. it's deeply criminal. it's absolutely scary as hell. and we need to resist it. we have to resist it now. the new the new home secretary needs to get a grip of this yvette cooper needs to get a grip. i don't care, she's allowed to be a politician. she's allowed to be political. but she has to drive out all forms of politics, from policing all forms of politics, from the

judiciary, all forms of politics. out of the home office, which is supposed to serve all of us without fear and favour. it's no good these people saying we're on the right side of history when they're on the wrong side of the law, because that's what that's what's happening. that's what's happening. >> fair enough. well, look, if the 12 year old boy or his family are watching, i just want to say, people are with you, and i want to say that there is no such thing as non—binary. and hamas absolutely should be eradicated. and you're a very brave young man, and i hope that you you come out of this well and strong and you're obviously very sensible and good parents. harry, thank you so much for coming in. and talking about this story to us. >> it's been a pleasure. thank you. >> next on free speech nation, we're going to get some more insightful questions from our beautiful audience just like you up there. see you in two seconds.

welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation with me . josh howie. nation with me. josh howie. later on in the show, i'm going to be turning agony uncle. with the help of my panel, bruce and to jonathan, help you deal with your unfiltered dilemmas. message us at gbnews.com/yoursay and we will help you deal with your many, many issues. so let's carry on with the show right now. we're going to get into some more questions from our audience . our first question is audience. our first question is from ryan. there he is. hey, mate. >> hi . evening, all. >> hi. evening, all. >> hi. evening, all. >> hello. >> hello. >> very, very important question now is dolly parton a white saviour? >> indeed. is dolly parton a white saviour? dolly parton has been accused of white saviorism for giving millions of free books to poor children. but according to a recently published academic paper, the award winning scheme is racist by reinforcing notions of white privilege and heteronormativity privilege and heteronorm ativity and privilege and heteronormativity and not representing enough cultural diversity, disability, trans blah, blah, blah blah. non—traditional family structures, whatever the

academic paper by speech and language pathologist jennifer stone, published by the university of north carolina, asserts that dolly parton's philanthropy is potentially dangerous and smacks of white slavery. i can't even how did she even write all that stuff? there >> someone get her a boyfriend? >> someone get her a boyfriend? >> i mean, sure , yeah. >> i mean, sure, yeah. >> i mean, sure, yeah. >> i mean, sure, yeah. >> i mean, yeah, this sounds surely. what do you think? this is a lot of tosh, right? >> yeah. i just think she's fabulous. and this is just, trying to find problems where there are none with dolly parton. >> yes. so, i mean, it's amazing, though, bruce, that we. what what academics are doing. what are they doing? people are paying are they doing? people are paying for these degrees stuff up. >> that's the problem obviously. >> that's the problem obviously. >> so yeah , it's certainly not >> so yeah, it's certainly not working nine till five i'll see my oh wow . hello. oh you've gone my oh wow. hello. oh you've gone up in my affirmations lady. >> yeah. brava thank you. >> yeah. brava thank you. >> there we go. thank you, thank you, thank you . you, thank you. >> now put on the fake breasts. sorry. put on your fake breasts like you're doing. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> after show the christmas

party all over again. >> but no, i think you have to remember that dolly came from a dirt poor background and is in a position in which to help others. her dad was literate. >> i believe. >> i believe. >> i believe. >> i have no idea. dyslexic. so you've got to assume . you've got to assume. >> no, no, that's. yeah. that's why she started this charity. >> but that's the whole thing. but like, even if he wasn't and she did that, what is the problem? and dare i say because i'm bringing up covid whether your stance on that, you know, she gave her own money for research and all that kind of thing. and if she wants to do that, she's fine. we should be delighted that someone like dolly parton is still in our lives and doing what she's doing, both professionally and personally. >> yeah. i mean, to criticise someone who's trying to help children be literate. i mean, this is this is insanity. >> it's completely laughable. it's just what is it? it's just basically saying you there's no good deed you can do. that's good deed you can do. that's good enough where you won't get criticised for it. so yeah. >> so what's the point of trying. yeah, i would actually argue, bruce, that it's worse than that. i would say by by arguing that charity is somehow

associated with whiteness, it seems to suggest that not no non charity is associated with non—whiteness. i mean, if you're making these kind of ridiculous logical arguments, the only person that i think dolly is sabotaging is herself, because some of the wigs are really cheap. >> okay, again, this is her choice. >> bruce, do not talk to me about wigs. are okay. our next question is from john. hey, john. >> yeah? should bbc hosts call for donald trump to be murdered? >> no. yeah. >> no. yeah. >> well, okay, should bbc hosts call for donald trump to be murdered ? david aaronovitch, who murdered? david aaronovitch, who presents radio four's briefing room show, took to twitter and wrote, if i was biden, i'd hurry it up and have trump murdered on the basis that he is a threat to america's security. now, what do you think about this ? you think about this? >> well, i've never knowingly murdered anyone . murdered anyone. >> you know, what terrifies me is the way that you said john

knowingly. yes >> and you look the kind that could have happened accidentally. i've seen you with accidentally. i've seen you with a bowl of crisps . a bowl of crisps. >> yeah, well, donald trump is about a couple of months younger than me, so he's probably not got that much longer. >> you're always making it about you, john. stop. you're bringing down the audience here. >> you're saying you're doing him a favour by killing him? what's your. i don't know, it's always about you, john, >> so what do you think? here jonathan, this is, did you see the tweet? >> i did see the tweet. and i saw it got deleted about 90 minutes later. i do think it was a joke. i think it was. >> oh, i think it was a joke. i don't think it was satire. like he was trying to say it was. it technically wasn't satire. no. here we have it. here it's saying something ridiculous. but it's a joke. well, it is saying something ridiculous, but we do that the whole time. >> i don't mean anything. >> i don't mean anything. >> except he's not a comic. i mean, context is important here. yeah, there is a point that he is trying to make, bruce, that he doesn't like him. well, he doesn't like him, but no, according to, what the. the judges have ruled . now, is that judges have ruled. now, is that anything that a president does

underin anything that a president does under in an official capacity , under in an official capacity, which could argue to be anything when they're in power, is now legal by default, and that is a problem in many ways, because, first of all, in how it applies to trump's behaviour when he was president, but also for any future presidents and what they'll then be able to get away with, like nixon would then be able to argue that watergate was an official part of his official capacity. so there is an issue here, a serious issue about that ruling , right? ruling, right? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> when is trump going to prison ? >> when is trump going to prison? well, do we know. >> well, this but there's an argument now that this ruling might help him get out of that, i do want to just go back to david aaronovitch's, tweets. i don't have an issue necessarily with the original tweet. what i do have an issue with is there are two things. number one is he wrote a tweet afterwards saying that anybody criticising him was far right , that anybody criticising him was far right, which is this sort of default of the left or the far left to kind of to do that. and that for me was massively hypocritical because the far

left certainly, you constantly will act in bad faith and take anything out of context if they think it's going to bring a one upmanship on a person who they don't agree with politically. so that wound me up, and i would also argue that and this is other people argue that obviously he works for the bbc. and the idea is you're meant to be impartial, that joke, bad as it may be, would suggest he's not impartial. it may be, would suggest he's not impartial . and his feelings not impartial. and his feelings towards trump. >> yeah. i don't think he wants biden to kill him. i think he's he's expressing a very obvious favouritism towards biden, which is i mean, i guess if you're not allowed to do that as a as a bbc guy, then i don't know. i don't know . i've never been to ofcom know. i've never been to ofcom training here. i really don't know what you are meant to do. >> okay, well it's different for us, but the point is we don't necessarily hold ourselves up to those standards. the most pure people in the whole world, which the bbc tend to do. >> okay, >> okay, >> i will say, i've had some onune >> i will say, i've had some online spats with david aaronovitch. okay, a lot about gender stuff. i will also say that his book, voodoo histories is excellent. i would highly

recommend it to anybody. right next on free speech nation, i'll be talking to the author and journalist joe partos about how gender critical feminists are politically homeless. see you there

welcome back to free speech nation. now, throughout the general election campaign, the position of women was at the forefront of the conversation, or certainly in the last week or so, when jk rowling got involved, prime minister sir keir starmer was consistently criticised for his party's flip flopping stance on women only spaces and defining what a woman is.labour spaces and defining what a woman is. labour mp jess phillips spoke of the intimidation female candidates faced during the campaign after she was elected, but many feminists have argued that none of the mainstream political parties offered a strong enough candidate for female voters at the ballot box. now, joining me is the assistant editor of the critic joe partos. so i read your piece in the

critic. did you vote in the end? >> i'm afraid to say i spoilt. i just didn't feel like i had any choice. i didn't feel like there was anyone to represent me. and yeah, when it came to the candidates i was offered, there was only one who recognised, you know, what a woman is and was prepared to say it. and i'm afraid to say, whilst he might recognise what a woman was, i wasn't confident he actually respected our rights. so i felt like i had no choice. >> yeah, it was interesting how it was sort of raised through the last couple of years, and then it would come and then go away, and it wasn't actually, i don't think part of the political discussion until jk rowling wrote her piece in the times, and then it sort of came back really to bite labour's bottom at that last week or so, and it forced them to kind of i think it did push the conversation. and obviously we know we owe a huge amount to jk rowling taking these kind of stances. what do you can you explain what labour's position is right now regarding the recognition of women's rights? >> yeah, i mean, right now they're a mess, so, you know, you have self—declared gobby feminists like jess phillips who hasn't said a word about the

harassment that, that women have faced trying to bring up the issue of women's sex based rights. obviously the harassment she faced was absolutely. you know, it was terrible . but at know, it was terrible. but at the same time, there's some hypocrisy with her not recognising that that's what women have been facing for a long time now when it comes to their manifesto pledges, they've pledged both to reform the gender recognition act and also to protect women's sex based spaces. now, those things are they're mutually exclusive. you can't do it. you either believe that somebody can magically change sex by saying the word. i identify as , or you don't. you identify as, or you don't. you believe in reality, and there's no nice middle path. and i think the fact that they haven't announced a minister for women and equalities is a reflection of that essentially poisoned chalice that that role is on the last weekend, though, keir starmer did quite emphatically say that, that, that, that he would well, he didn't he didn't promise that he would change the equality act. >> but he did clearly say that only biological women would be

allowed into women's spaces. so that's quite that's a big shift from where things were though, right? >> it's a shift. but at the same time you've got angela rayner in a key position and obviously she's someone who's very much a trans activist, yes. he has shifted his position. but in the past he's also said that, you know, 99.9% of women don't have a penis, obviously, suggesting that the 0.1% do. he hasn't said a word in defence of rosie duffield. he's sort of ignored the fact that she was intimidated by trans activists, unable to attend the party conference. she was unable to even attend one of the hustings events because of the threats she had from trans activists. so his words are pretty woolly at the moment . they don't his words are pretty woolly at the moment. they don't mean a lot, and i think he has a lot of rebuilding trust to do if he wants to retain support of women, i would say top of that list. >> yes. would be apologising to rosie duffield. absolutely, saying he does saying that they do clarify in law, by rejigging the equality act that sex is biological sex. would that be

enough for you, for them to then make the changes they're talking about with self—id ? surely then about with self—id? surely then that becomes less important ? that becomes less important? >> to be honest, no, i think he'll equivocate on it. i don't think they're going to, i think they hope that it's going to disappear. so, they've also said that they're going to implement the cass review, but that they're banned conversion therapy. now if they want to fully trans inclusive, as it were, conversion therapy ban. that means stopping therapists from being able to talk to children who think that they're born in the wrong body. >> so again, those things are the cass report said it was a social contagion. >> yes. quite so. you know, these things cannot. that's a circle that cannot be squared, so i think, well, we will find out whether he's more concerned about 51% of the population or the 0.3% who identify as trans. and indeed, they're very vocal activist, trans activist , lobby, activist, trans activist, lobby, and i suspect he will try and put it on the back burner. yeah. >> well, we'll see if. well, we'll see if someone like jk rowling or other people bring that up. enough about labour. we know the tories eventually came around on this issue. obviously kemi badenoch being a real

stalwart for that cause, fighting against gender ideology , fighting against gender ideology, the other political parties, not so much. i know we've now we're years away from an election, but do you think that there might be, an alternative that might come through by the next election? i know we had kelly j. keen. >> she. yes >> she. yes >> yeah, she had 60, 16 candidates, i think. >> i think it's quite incredible. >> i mean to field 16 candidates. party of women. >> yes. >> yes. >> party of women. yeah. it's a grassroots organisation to field that many candidates that quickly on a single issue shows that it matters and that, you know , people do care about this know, people do care about this issue. and i think, you know, when you ask people if they care about trans issues, there was a poll, shortly before the election, and it actually showed that not that many people did. now, if you were to consider, if you were to ask them if they cared about their mums getting single sex care, if you were to ask them about whether they thought rapists should be in women's prisons or men should be on podiums in women's sports, i think the answer would be very different. so this is an issue that affects all of us because obviously our biology affects all of us. and that's why it

matters so much. and it isn't a trans issue. it's actually just a sort of reality issue. >> absolutely. i mean, we did have, of course, the women's equality party, which i voted for years ago before all of this stuff started. and they've obviously been a big let down when it comes to protecting women's rights, which, yeah, i mean, they had a chance to be relevant. >> they had a chance a bit like the fawcett society had a chance to be relevant. and they blew it, and i think they're largely i mean, you know, i'm quite involved with the feminist movement, and they were laughing stock. i don't think anybody takes them seriously. they were sort of. yes, a bunch of sort of. well careerists really. so. >> well, look, labour are in now. they've got obviously this huge majority. what do you think is, is the future. do you think now that we are going to have some actual stability on this issue, is it going to move forward. is it what can people do to help move this forward? >> i think we've got, you know, a lot of a lot of women have been really galvanised into action over this issue who weren't previously particularly,

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>> well. >> well. >> there's plenty more still to come on. free speech nation this week , including a debate on team week, including a debate on team gb's women's rugby stars. and more questions from our wonderful studio audiences. but let's get a news update . first let's get a news update. first from tatiana sanchez . from tatiana sanchez. >> josh thank you. good evening. the top stories, the prime

minister has told the palestinian president that recognising the state of palestine as part of a middle east peace process is an undeniable right. sir keir starmer spoke to mahmoud abbas earlier today. he also spoke to his israeli counterpart benjamin netanyahu, setting out the clear and urgent need for a ceasefire. labour's election manifesto committed the party to recognising a palestinian state as part of a process that results in a two state solution . results in a two state solution. the prime minister has begun a uk tour as he tries to reset the relationship between westminster and the devolved nations. mr swinney welcomed sir keir to bute house for one of his first engagements after being appointed as prime minister. sir keir used talks with mr swinney to set the framework within which we can work better for scotland. when asked about scottish independence, sir keir refused to go into detail but said they'll work together . said they'll work together. >> a joint view that we can work constructively together . i am constructively together. i am absolutely clear that during the

campaign i made a commitment that my labour government would deliver for scotland. that's why i'm back here making good on that commitment that promise and starting the work of change across scotland and took this opportunity to reset relations with the first minister and deputy first minister. and we will take forward further steps to ensure that that is bedded in. >> now, the home secretary has set out the first steps towards setting up a uk border security command, which the government hopes will reduce small boat crossings in the english channel. work to recruit an exceptional leader to head the body will begin tomorrow, with the government preparing a bill to create counter—terror powers aimed at tackling organised immigration crime. the home office says the command leaders expected to be appointed within the next few weeks and would draw together work of intelligence agencies , police, intelligence agencies, police, immigration enforcement and border force . yvette cooper says border force. yvette cooper says a major upgrade in law enforcement is needed to stop the boats.

>> no one should be making these dangerous boat crossings. this is undermining our border security as well as having lives being put at risk. but that's why we have to have a major upgrade in law enforcement. and ihave upgrade in law enforcement. and i have immediately started the work on that in the home office. that includes the recruitment of a new border security commander, the establishment of a new border security command, and also the recruitment of new cross border police, including to work right across europe to tackle this problem at source, the uk's new defence secretary has pledged to step up the uk's support for ukraine on a visit to odesa following a meeting with president zelenskyy and his defensive counterpart, mr healey announced the uk would provide a new package of support, including more artillery guns, a quarter of a million ammunition rounds and nearly 100 precision brimstone missiles. >> the defence secretary also pledged to fast track military support committed for ukraine in april to arrive within the next 100 days and some breaking

sports news. emma raducanu is out of wimbledon after losing in three sets six two, five seven, six two to qualifier lulu sun in the fourth round. raducanu was the fourth round. raducanu was the last remaining british player in either singles draw at the all england club, and she was looking for a spot in the quarterfinals for the very first time. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> welcome back to free speech nation. let's get some more questions from our wonderful studio audience. now, our first question is from carol. it is not from carol. no, michael, it's michael that sounds like

carol, no. you look like a carol to me . i'm carol, no. you look like a carol to me. i'm calling you carol, no. you look like a carol to me . i'm calling you carol. to me. i'm calling you carol. sorry, michael. how's glastonbury? >> always been woke. >> always been woke. >> oh, okay. this is the problem. i'm still on drugs from glastonbury. and that's why i said, carol, yes. so, yes. so this was some. you sold them to me, mate? yeah so, yes. this is, from, noel gallagher. noel gallagher? yes. he was saying how, glastonbury is now woke and he also said something about how musicians should stop getting spouting political nonsense and just get on with playing their instruments and effing off afterwards. what do you think, carol? >> straight, michael well, i don't like tents or sleeping with mud. okay. been for a long time . time. >> okay, but you used to go back in the day. >> long. >> long. >> about 20 years ago. yeah. okay when the hair was. yeah, i know, i feel your pain. follically. >> challenged. >> challenged. >> that's what we like to call ourselves, yes. so, bruce, what do you think? now musicians, in terms of, you know, should they

just shut up and play their instruments? >> i think they should just shut up. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so don't even don't even play. don't even play. >> just stand a lot of it's nonsense. yeah, yeah. >> you're a big musical fan. yeah, well, you know that jonathan kogan here is in a successful band. believe it or not, he's a band. not just a comedian. >> yeah, i'm in the mamas and the papas , everybody. nice to the papas, everybody. nice to see you. that's nice. that's a deep pool . what do i think about deep pool. what do i think about this? i think if it's part of your act that you want to express yourself on stage and, you know, say your political views, i think you should absolutely be allowed to. but i also think by this point, it's quite a hacky pro—establishment thing to do. >> who said what, >> who said what, >> i think it's this is a reflection on the massive sort of anti—monarchy, anti—capitalist, pro—palestine, etc, etc. right. performances at glastonbury. >> so not dua lipa , not dua >> so not dua lipa, not dua lipa, no, no. >> what does she for stand herself? >> that's why i like the american dream . yeah. i mean, american dream. yeah. i mean, there is an argument here that i mean, this goes back to the oasis blur. there could be that element. the division going on there, because of course, damon albarn sort of famously called

that. so there could be a little nod of criticism. >> i mean, i think noel gallagher is the funniest guy in engush gallagher is the funniest guy in english music at the moment or in the last 20 years. okay. >> yeah. no, no , i agree. and, >> yeah. no, no, i agree. and, but yeah, i mean, damon albarn, i doubt if you saw that, but he called, he said, oh, palestine. it's not what's happening in gaza. it's not a fair war. yeah, i don't think yeah. i don't think it was fair on october 8th to, you know, when it was instigated against israelis. yeah and the over 1000 people who were murdered, slaughtered and raped . but anyway, yeah, and raped. but anyway, yeah, it's, it's very frustrating. and of course. yeah, absolutely. just just play your music, so we have another question, we're not going to carol or michael this time. we've got john. where's john? you're not john. i know, but i, i was just looking at you because i was admiring your shirt. okay, take the compliment. sorry. hey, john. >> good evening. i come. england won the euros, so. >> yes . can won the euros, so. >> yes. can england win the euros? what do you. what do you

think, john? >> i think i might be the case. the old cliche. they're a great team on paper, but unfortunately, football is played on grass , so. i don't played on grass, so. i don't think so. >> right? >> right? >> i didn't hear that properly. it was something about john. he likes to smoke grass. yeah. something about rolling paper like that . yeah. john and like that. yeah. john and michael just hanging out 20 years ago, two guys. you crazy dudes. so, yeah. are you into football? >> no, i read books, but, yeah, i know i'm that guy. no. what do i know i'm that guy. no. what do i think? i watched a bit of it. look at least men have something, right. they can watch the football and enjoy that. they've got a little something to, you know, get behind. yeah. do i think england can win? yeah. do i think that's likely? probably not. do i care i know i mean look the argument is, bruce, that it would be good for the nation. >> possibly. maybe not i don't know. i mean obviously there's scottish people who please don't lump me. i know, i know, i know, sorry, i know fine. but the point is this this could be a good thing . and look, it brings good thing. and look, it brings people joy. >> it'd be a good thing and people like it. and i hope they do. i hope it's coming home. because if i hear that once more, i will scream. i just wanted to come home. come home.

i wanted to open the door, go in and lie down. >> that's it . relax. you're in >> that's it. relax. you're in the house. >> football. and cathy, please come home. yes. these are the two things, right? the next question is , i hope, from carol. question is, i hope, from carol. >> he's . >> he's. >> he's. >> carol? yes guys, we try to skip those two questions. >> how did you not clock . >> how did you not clock. >> how did you not clock. >> good evening. a very important question. are men with beards more likely to settle down? >> yes. so men with beards , >> yes. so men with beards, let's talk about that now. this is researchers in poland , they is researchers in poland, they have conducted a study into men with different types of facial hair. and they found that men with beards are more likely to want a secure, long term relationship with a permanent partner . so, carol, you have a partner. so, carol, you have a beard, are you in relationship. >, >> i >,- >> i am >,_ >> i am okay. >> i am okay. >> yes. do you think they feel secure, >> they feel secure. but i can tell you that the men i was dating, the there were beards and there were not more likely to settle down.

>> okay. this is interesting. i'm wondering if there's a if this study doesn't include homosexuals , a good question. homosexuals, a good question. not not that gay men don't settle down, but i'd imagine there'd be statistically more beards, it would just. >> you know, emily thornberry. >> you know, emily thornberry. >> i mean, unless they include women in the north, joke . that's women in the north, joke. that's where our. that's where our fan base is . but, yes, i mean, you base is. but, yes, i mean, you have a beard as well. i mean, so do you. yeah, i have a beard. and, yeah, i'm very committed. well, interestingly, my wife actually likes the beard. she likes the baldness because she thinks that no one's going to be attracted to me. >> it's just. >> it's just. >> it's just the personality. >> it's just the personality. >> she's not the person. she's not keen on that either. >> but you told me back in the 70s when you had a big moustache, you had a t shirt saying free moustache rides. and i only just got what that meant. so, yeah , yeah. so, yeah, yeah. >> this is let's not bring our childhood into it. now, obviously. jonathan, you are you don't have a beard. no. you are also, that's a puberty blocker .

also, that's a puberty blocker. you are not engaged, i believe that's correct . so yeah. there that's correct. so yeah. there we covered. and you're your girlfriend is watching this evening, right. is there a question you would like to ask her? >> she doesn't understand the news, but that's okay. >> no, that's probably why you're single. >> yeah. look, i'm not slinging d anymore. those days are behind me. that's what. >> that's what do you think? that there might be any particular reason why a beard would suggest a desire for relationships? >> maybe it's like your sort of. you're not. not so much. yeah. you're not. not so much. yeah. you're not. not so much. yeah. you're not giving up on yourself, but you're kind of letting it grow out and you're like, yeah, i'm less concerned about looking my best. and you know, you're not looking for mate. >> that wow, wow, oh my god. wow. >> i feel seen , yeah. >> i feel seen, yeah. >> i feel seen, yeah. >> i feel seen, yeah. >> i just can't grow one. >> i just can't grow one. >> i'm bitter. okay well, our next question is from jonathan. yes hey. hey, jonathan. hey, mate. hi, >> my question, are reboots and sequels destroying cinema? >> yes. our reboots and sequels destroying cinema. the beverly hills cop franchise has returned with the latest instalment , axel with the latest instalment, axel f, premiering to strong reviews

on netflix. and it comes also as cineworld are reportedly considering closing as many as 25 cinemas across the country. a quarter of their total sites. so, jonathan, what do you think about this? >> i think there's a general problem with originality in the arts. i wouldn't just have sympathy in that. i'd say music and tv and. yeah, okay. >> yeah. so yeah, there's jonathan say because mike scott. but, yeah, there's a general problem in the arts. would you agree with this? i mean, when was the last time you went to cinema? do you go often? >> i never go, i hate it, i see it as voluntary incarceration. and the funny thing with me is i only like films that i've seen before, which i know throws up another question. what i don't understand is why we aren't encouraging writers to come out with something new. for example, there's going to be a version of death becomes her, which starred goldie hawn and meryl streep, andifs goldie hawn and meryl streep, and it's going to have kate hudson and anne hathaway in it, and you're like, i'm out. why? >> yeah. no, no. like why are we going back to that? >> but it's not even like that's like a classic. it's an okay

movie for the era, but it's not like classic game movie. >> we'll move on. europol. >> we'll move on. europol. >> oh, is it okay? i didn't know it was a classic game movie. >> no no no no. but genuinely. but also as well you mentioned earlier 9 to 5. >> they're bringing out 9 to 5 again with jennifer lopez. she can't make a marriage work. why is she going to make a film work. but is it so is it is it. >> but is that to appeal to gen z? is that to appeal more to gen z? is that to appeal more to gen z? so it's going to be sort of ii to 1115. 11 to 1115. >> i ii to 1115. >> i don't care. >> it's like why can't why is there such there seems to be such an embargo against anything new and original. when was the last time we had something like the league of gentlemen? >> yeah. well, yeah. no, they don't. >> no no no no no, i mean i know there are i mean there are good comedies. >> i mean, that was particularly original. yeah but yeah, there seems to be a problem with risk, but when it comes to movies and obviously you're writing a movie, i've written a film, it's very much you know, money is what's what controls it . what's what controls it. obviously, they see the success of, of sequels. they see the success of superhero movies. and i like those. i like those

things. but at the same time, that's that seems to be where cinema has been pushed for the last decade or so. >> well, i think it's a double edged sword because you do absolutely get, they call it superhero fatigue, where people have grown sick of the ongoing superhero films, but at the same time they were building up to that, you know, third avengers movie that was a massive cinematic event that everyone was excited about because it had all these sequels following on from each other that led to this kind of great shared tapestry that we could all be excited to see how it concluded . but then see how it concluded. but then after that point, it just felt like more of the same, but slightly worse. >> so. well, i mean, there are two arguments for. absolutely. i mean , and i thought that that mean, and i thought that that was those were great movies, both from the avengers endgame and infinity war. but i also wonder if that also coincided with the increase of, when they started not appealing to the fans. and actually, they just kind of wanted to bring in ideological elements to the story. and that might be another part of why people are not going to the cinema as much. they are voting with their wallets. the whole saying go woke, go broke

and people don't want to pay to be indoctrinated. >> you have top gun, which wasn't woke at all, but it was also a sequel. but it just absolutely smashed the box office. so i think they want a bit of what they like without what they don't like. that's not very insightful. now we'll be back after the break. >> you know what? the thing is that your answer, jonathan, was so boring it would get people back into the cinema. are our next question is from rosemary , next question is from rosemary, >> hello. hey. a video games leading to the death of love. >> okay. yes. so our video games leading to the death of love and interaction. this is from lewis schafer's girlfriend and statistics . statistics show statistics. statistics show that, the 80, 88. wow. of those aged 16 to 24m the uk play video games, with further analysis finding that around 5% of the gamers aged 13 to 64 game for 20 or more hours per week. and it comes as a sharp rise in those being addicted to gaming has been reported, with the nhs

now having the capacity to treat 3000 individuals a year in 15 centres across the country. the world health organisation defined gaming addiction as when the activity is having marked impairment on personal, family, social, educational , social, educational, occupational or other important areas of functioning. now you look like a real gamer , jacks. look like a real gamer, jacks. yeah, exactly. what's your what's your game of choice? do you play video games? no. what about family members, >> some of my sons have been video gamers, and i think they still live at home. >> right ? >> right? >> right? >> i think they i think they still play, but i think it's probably led to the death of reading and game playing and all those other activities . and it's those other activities. and it's quite a i don't know if it's a very positive activity, but, i don't think it's led to the death of love. i think this seems to be plenty of love around. >> well, someone's got a healthy marriage rubbing our face in it. >> hey, that's how they keep it. >> hey, that's how they keep it. >> no, no. so yeah. look, you're

a gamer. you actually, you make music for games. yeah well, i've worked with, companies like namco bandai and stuff, writing music for some of their video games. >> i was really , like, obsessed >> i was really, like, obsessed gamer up to the age of about 15. and then i got into music and other stuff. but i think the problem with video games is, and you're not a virgin, right, i have, i have well , look, we can have, i have well, look, we can talk about that afterwards, but, but yeah, i mean, but no, in all seriousness, this is something thatis seriousness, this is something that is raised every so often. >> but i read this book that, you know, everything bad is actually for good you. and it argues that video games increase synapses, increase motor control. there are positives to it. >> it depends on the game, because they can be super addictive, because they just hit your reward system over and over and over again. especially someone like the free to play phone games where you then have to pay a little bit more. but i think the problem is video games can be an achievement simulator, so you feel like you're actually getting stuff done and you're progressing in the game and you get the dopamine which you would otherwise be getting normally in your life, from actually going out into the world and achieving something. >> so i don't think you've ever

beenin >> so i don't think you've ever been in a relationship because you just don't get that dopamine. yeah. not at all. so dopamine. yeah. not at all. so do you, do you play games, bruce? no >> psychological ones? oh, yes. >> psychological ones? oh, yes. >> i always come out on top. >> i always come out on top. >> let's move on to our final question from anton . it's back. question from anton. it's back. we're back to anton. hey, man, it's i. >> a good force of nature is i a force for good in the arts now, sir laurence olivier , judy sir laurence olivier, judy garland, and james dean will all have their voices brought back to life by an ai platform to narrate audiobooks. >> the late actor's voices will be used in new ai powered app called 11 labs, where users will be able to choose their voice in a special feature called iconic voices. the garland estate said it was exciting to see judy garland's voice available to millions, adding that they believe this will bring new fans for the star. bruce, surely this is more that they're getting a judy garland question? you're right. that is incredibly homophobic of me. thank you. no. but i mean, surely the estate is

just happy that they're going to be making lots of money from this. >> yeah, of course, but then i suppose there is a thing of recordings and all that kind of stuff don't last the test of time to have those to, you know, these are all significant cultural icons. >> it's funny, we went to madonna last year at the o2 and i don't know if that was her or that was i, but she sounded phenomenal. and maybe she'd just gone to bed and done some vocal exercises, i don't know, but if it is the case, then that preserves that kind of thing. i don't see there is a problem with it , but i don't see there is a problem with it, but i would like to point out madonna is still alive. as far as i'm aware, i've seen her face, but jonathan, i'm surely there is an impact on the arts because voice actors will be losing work now. >> certainly i've played around with 11 labs. i actually cloned cressida for the office a couple of weeks ago, and you can just if you put in like 30s of someone talking, you can then generate a voice. it's an unbelievable tool , i did hear unbelievable tool, i did hear one of these celebrity readings. it was, mel gibson reading from mein kampf. it sounded super realistic. and i mean, it's recorded seven years ago, but yeah, it was a an interesting

very good. >> i don't think anybody gets that reference there. i thought it was dying very , very good. it was dying very, very good. right. next on free speech nation, we're going to be debating a controversial new campaign from team gb's female rugby players, which aims to inspire young girls to play sports . don't go anywhere

welcome back to free speech nation. with the olympics. just around the corner, attention is now turning to our athletes as they gear up for a summer of sport. team gb's women's rugby team, though, have already been forced into the spotlight following a new campaign involving lingerie . players involving lingerie. players ditch their usual rugby kits in favour of underwear to take part in bluebells . strong is in bluebells. strong is beautiful campaign, an initiative aiming to encourage young girls to play sports. but the move has been criticised

heavily on social media, with many saying that the male gaze has been placed front and centre with me now to debate this in the studio is broadcaster and tv personality precious muir, and the director of campaigns at sex matters, fiona mckenna. precious do you think this is empowering? >> i do, i think it's a wonderful thing. i mean, women are constantly being ridiculed in society and we need to be uplifting them and them . uplifting them and them. embracing a campaign like this as athletes is inspiring young girls to want to participate in sport, because being a nude isn't a scary thing. like we shouldn't be scared to have women in lingerie because we're constantly seeing footballers taking their shirts off, walking around and doing campaigns for boxer briefs and shorts all the time. i mean, if you watch a football game , how many times do football game, how many times do you see a footballer take his shirt off and run around celebrating his score? i mean,

it's not a big deal to me. i think it's a very good thing for women to do. >> fair enough. now, fiona, do you think that context is important here? why do you think this is sexist? >> well, i think there's nothing empowering about stripping off for other people. it's a free choice. they're free to do it , choice. they're free to do it, the problem we've got here is that the advertiser, the brand has said that this is about attracting girls into sport. what we know is that the reason lots of girls drop out of sport is because they feel self—conscious. they feel they don't want to be looked at. they're worried about how they're going to look. and i'm sure this campaign started with good intentions, but they fallen into the trap of just reinforcing the same old, same old, which is to say to girls, what is important is how you look . and then they're trying to look. and then they're trying to say, and you'll still look good if you play rugby, but it would be so much more empowering and it would be more successful in getting girls into sport if they would say , come and play rugby would say, come and play rugby because you will feel great, you will have teamwork, you have these, these women in that ad campaign. they have skills, they

have resilience, they have fitness, but they're just being celebrated for nakedness. >> so a woman should not be able to take like i take very good like in my appearance, for me to look good is important and for me to inspire other women to do that, that's it's a good thing. it's a positive thing. i don't think you having a talent takes away from from wearing lingerie. wearing lingerie is like everybody in this room. i'm assuming everyone's wearing lingerie today. i am so, you know, everybody wears it. at the end of the day, it's just inspiring others to do nice things. i mean, these women, if they were heavier, they would be ridiculed. if they were slimmer, women just can't catch a break. we're constantly being criticised . criticised. >> yeah, absolutely. right. precious. >> we need to be supporting these. they are being they're brave enough to go out there and do a campaign like this and nobody else would. i mean, at the end of the day, they have stripped down into these wonderful, sexy lingerie items. i don't see a problem with it. they look great. i mean, so the problem is that this brand is claiming that this is some kind

of higher social purpose, that it's going to get girls into sport . sport. >> if they were just advertising lingerie, that's up to them and it's up to you how how you dress and how much you wear or how little. the problem we've got here is that they're telling girls that in order to do sport, they have to worry about how they have to worry about how they look. and that's the problem. that's the problem. we already have. one of the women in this campaign said that when she before she played rugby, she had an eating disorder and she had an eating disorder and she had body image issues. now, the solution to body image issues is not to tell girls that they need to look good in lingerie. so the solution is to let them play sports. >> would you say this to a male football player who is doing a lingerie ad for a very well—known. >> have you ever seen a male football player training in his underwear? >> i've seen him. >> i've seen him. >> that's how these women and he's got that's how these women were photographed. >> abs out and he's doing. >> abs out and he's doing. >> yeah, and that's fine. >> yeah, and that's fine. >> and everyone's going , wow, >> and everyone's going, wow, look at that guy. and you and i both know said, how dare he have his top off. and you and i both know those abs . know those abs. >> you know, you and i both know

that he is. he is to free do that he is. he is to free do that because the rest of the time he is celebrated for his achievements. and these. how often do we see team gb women in sport being celebrated for their achievements? it's such a shame that this campaign has got them out there in their lingerie, just like all the other women in lingerie ads , and it's not doing lingerie ads, and it's not doing anything for girls. it's the same old sexist stuff. saying how you look is what matters. and i think it's a shame for girls. it will not encourage them back into sport. >> do make awareness, bring awareness to women and encourage them to have a body positive outlook. being naked does it mean that you, you're you're you're having a negative connotation on what you look like? it's just saying be body positive. >> it's saying show off your body. why can't they do that in their rugby kit if they're really being celebrated, if they're really being celebrated for sport, but they say it's about getting women into sport and that's the problem. >> it seems like the problem here is that this is really just a they're trying to sell a product, lingerie, and they're

doing it on the back of this. oh, let's get young girls , oh, let's get young girls, encourage them into sport. now if it didn't have that element, you're saying that you wouldn't have a problem with it if it was just an advert and they used these rugby women and to show different body types and that they are beautiful, then that's okay. do you think that would that make a difference to you at all if the campaign, the more moral campaign of helping young women encouraging. >> i think the message is very clear. it is doing that because young women don't have a very positive body. they just look at themselves and they're constantly ridiculed about what's going on because of society and the way people treat women. we uplift everybody else. we don't uplift women. and this is a campaign showing women of all shapes and sizes and colours, and they're embracing their bodies in lingerie. i don't see anything negative in this campaign. >> so i agree with most of what you say, precious. but why can't we uplift women with their clothes on? wouldn't that be a welcome change? >> do both? skin is not the devil like we can. we can wear. >> but we are objectifying these girls. the whole problem is girls. the whole problem is girls are objectified.

>> the campaign footballers, premiership league . they go out premiership league. they go out and do this stuff all the time for big brands and nobody says a word to them . they're embracing word to them. they're embracing them. they think it's amazing. they're on covers and everything. when a woman does it, it's criticised . it's not. it, it's criticised. it's not. that's right. >> and that's because of the inherent sexism that the starting point of this ad campaign is to say you have to look good. that's the problem . look good. that's the problem. they should be saying you have to have skill. you can be fit, you can be part of a team. >> they wouldn't sell lingerie, but that that's you see, if they weren't pretending to be doing some kind of social good, it wouldn't be a problem. >> it would just be any other lingerie ad. it's disingenuous to say to girls, this is how you can look if you do sport and they're reinforcing the issues around body image, which are the very reason girls are dropping out of sport in the first place. >> yeah. so it's an interesting one. i mean, precious, do you think this is a distracted the conversation with, you know, tb gb's hopes at the olympics? >> no i think it's creating a

conversation. and for people to actually have a discussion and for gb to actually be seen in the olympics. and it's giving bringing awareness in all i think it's a positive thing. the press is talking about it and that's always good. so yeah , that's always good. so yeah, well i remember the volleyball team women's beach volleyball team women's beach volleyball team that got fined for wearing clothing that was too skimpy, and the men were wearing much more substantial clothing. >> so if that's not objectification, i don't know what is. and that is not how women in sport want to be seen. >> the word objectification. and i guess then it comes down to who is lingerie for. the argument might be that lingerie is for women to feel empowered and good about their bodies, positive about their bodies. the other argument would be it's for the male gaze. yeah but also they're not wearing the lingerie. >> the male gaze. >> the male gaze. >> pointing to the gate. >> pointing to the gate. >> i just want to be very clear. they're not wearing the lingerie at the games. this is a campaign. oh, i'm not going to. this is a campaign. let's just make sure that we're all clear

on that. i mean, they might wear it under the underneath their kit, but, you know, they're not wearing it at the games. it's a campaign to bring awareness. it encourages young girls to have body positivity. i think it's a really good idea to do it because you know, athletes are always complaining as females. they're not getting these campaigns and now they have. so what what what are we doing here? you know, they can't win like it feels like there's mixed messages in terms of we're talking about also the sexualization of young girls. but that's how you perceive lingerie i don't think it's a sexual thing. it depends on how you wear it and where you're wearing it. when i looked at the campaign, i didn't see sex. i just saw very happy women in really nice lingerie. i didn't see it wasn't a sexual there weren't they weren't like they weren't they weren't like they weren't on a bed or they weren't with, you know, having a glass of wine. they were on the pitch. yeah. >> so you know, but then it comes down to the opposite of context. >> it's how you perceive it. >> it's how you perceive it. >> it's how you perceive it. >> i think having semi—naked sportswomen on the pitch when they would never set foot on that pitch, dressed like that is

pretty sexist. and it's pretty much saying to them, looking feminine, looking beautiful is your goal. even when you're a team gb rugby player. and i think that's a really negative message. what they should be saying is enjoy sport, don't worry about how you look, fine. >> where are your lingerie and the fact that they're women and they're happy, but women don't have to wear lingerie. but you know, we're losing the fact that we're not encouraging women to be women and to be proud. >> we're losing the fact. >> we're losing the fact. >> so that's what it is. >> so that's what it is. >> i can say that we've definitely come to an understanding here. now, if you're interested in seeing me playing rugby in lingerie, please follow me on twitter, but in the meantime , thank you so in the meantime, thank you so much to my guests, precious and fiona. thank you . next on free fiona. thank you. next on free speech nation, we'll cross live to washington, dc to get the latest on the presidential race. see you shortly.

welcome back to free speech nation. now, we might have had a busy week of politics here at home. but across the pond, things have been just as tumultuous. president biden's position as the democratic candidate in the upcoming presidential race is increasingly uncertain. the new york post reported yesterday that a leading neurologist visited the white house to meet with biden's doctor after a series of public mishaps during his campaign. meanwhile, donald trump took to his social media platform, truth social , to platform, truth social, to sarcastically encourage biden to continue to be sharp, precise and energetic just like he was in the debate. with me now is the white house correspondent for real political news , john for real political news, john christopher bucha . hello. christopher bucha. hello. welcome, welcome. what is the latest on president biden's condition? >> well, i thought i was going to talk about trump in a negugee to talk about trump in a negligee or a lovely little black lace. >> and we're saving that for the end. we've we've had our i work on the images.

>> what is the latest the latest is we are in a very, very tense moment in our in our political cycle here, you know, joe biden had a dreadful debate. he knows that we were all rather dis dissatisfied by that. those who liked him or didn't. and then he went out and he started to prove that he could in fact, speak to crowds. he did a nice interview with abc's george stephanopoulos, who i've known since the clinton campaign. it was a good, good piece. he seemed powerful and strong. he did a an event today. he did another event in wisconsin, and then he did a church at an african american church. earlier today. and he's looking powerful. he's looking good. but there's questions. you know, the fact is that he is he's old as sky . and, you know, he makes sky. and, you know, he makes sense. he's people are talking about how much integrity has and how what a wonderful

administration he has and what he's going to do next. but, you know, there's always the issue of where do we go from here? and people just want to know, josh that he's okay and that he can serve out, the next four years, and go against trump, take care of him, and then be the president of the united states. we've got a big 75th anniversary of nato this week. and it's i'm happy to see that your your keir starmer is heading over. that'll be very nice. and there's an election . you had a very election. you had a very interesting election in the uk and france is having one as we speak. so we're seeing things in europe not go. so the right wing, as we were afraid of . we wing, as we were afraid of. we just hope america keeps that tradition as well . tradition as well. >> so it sounds like you don't think that he should drop out of the presidential race then? >> well, look, you know , i've >> well, look, you know, i've known joe biden for over 30 years. he's a he's a decent, honourable man. and i have to say , it's up to him. i can't be

say, it's up to him. i can't be second guessing him. there are members of congress who think he should go. there are senators who will meet with him and talk to him about that. his wife certainly wants him to stay in. and monday, the lawmakers, the lawmakers here will be returning from their 4th of july weekend, and they're going to be on the hill, capitol hill, and they're going to be discussing this in earnest . so we'll see where earnest. so we'll see where where the country goes. >> well, could you tell us about some of the other potential democratic candidates that could take over from biden? >> then ? >> then? >> then? >> well, i have my fantasy candidates. i think, hillary clinton and michelle obama should run, but that's i know you're a comedian , so i thought you're a comedian, so i thought you'd get a kick out of that. >> no, no, i, i genuinely don't know if you're being serious or not. >> i'm not serious. i'm i'm throwing a joke at you. sorry. >> i didn't know. americans did that, but. oh, yes. >> in fact , i think joe biden >> in fact, i think joe biden should be in the nato. >> and i like your film sequence as well. and i have one for you. carry on. joe biden . carry on. joe biden. >> okay. wow. we are keeping the

references up to date here. >> why not? >> why not? >> why not exactly. so there's no particular candidates that are i mean, isn't that part of the problem? the democratic party hasn't actually sort of pushed anyone forward that there that there is a replacement there. >> well, well, here's here's what it is . he's not going to what it is. he's not going to resign his presidency . he will resign his presidency. he will stay president at least until the inauguration, which is the january 20th, 2025. now whether he he pulls out and let's , he he pulls out and let's, kamala harris step in. we'll see. now, i just got the breaking news that, her husband, the second gentleman, just came down with covid. so we wish him well, and we wish, we wish the vice president well, but it's going to be a very difficult couple of weeks. the democrats have their have their convention in mid—august and the gop, the grand old party, republicans , as grand old party, republicans, as you say, have theirs next week. so we shall see what what

happens kamala harris is, is not the only one. there are others who are who are looking to perhaps get involved , gretchen perhaps get involved, gretchen whitmer, who's governor of michigan. we have gavin newsom, who's a very powerful, charismatic governor of california and several others . california and several others. and it it is not it is a little disconcerting. and i think one of the reasons that people are staying behind, standing behind joe biden, which which they may want to anyway, is because it's not going to upset the apple cart. we're going to we're going to know where the delegates are. we're going to know who's the nominee. we're going to have a convention. and joe biden will hopefully for some, be the nominee, and he will run against, against a our favourite, trump. >> well, we'll see if there's still an apple cart after all of that then. well, thank you so much to john christopher. thank you for joining much to john christopher. thank you forjoining us. pleasure. thank you . next on free speech thank you. next on free speech nation, norway's culture minister bares all. an american tourist gets a little confused

over irish geography, and goodfellas becomes goodfellas. it's almost time for social sensations that will make

>> on mark dolan tonight. >> on mark dolan tonight. >> in my opinion , our labour >> in my opinion, our labour already trying to undo brexit. >> my mark menzies guest is former foreign secretary sir malcolm rifkind . where do the malcolm rifkind. where do the tories go from here? and it might take at ten. our new prime minister, sir keir starmer, has scrapped the rwanda plan. you can hear the champagne corks popping can hear the champagne corks popping in calais as we speak. plus ann widdecombe tomorrow's papers and my top pundits. we're live at nine. >> welcome back to free speech nation. it's time for social sensations, the part of the show where we look at what's been going viral this week on social

media. first up, norway. the home of edvard grieg. rikard nordraak and johan svendsen. yes, a country once famous for whatever those guys did has descended into a decadent state. as norwegian politician flashed her breasts at a pride award event. let's take a look at zigi shipper pat cullen . okay. that shipper pat cullen. okay. that is norway's culture minister. ladies and gentlemen. and, her breasts, strangely, are luminescent, which you haven't seen. now, this is, northern lights. is there any politician that you want to see go topless? bruce, >> no. >> no. >> no , no. it's always. >> no, no. it's always. >> no, no. it's always. >> yeah. no. get the paps back in the bread bin. >> keep them, keep them, keep them away. >> yes. keep them moist. >> yes. keep them moist. >> keep them, you know, room temperature. >> i don't really know what. jonathan. what do you know? she was trying to make a sort of political point here. >> i think she was just trying

to get involved in the festivities. maybe she'd had a few too many. whatever they dnnk. drink. >> norsk, i heard. >> norsk, i heard. >> are you sure? she just wasn't a rugby player? she could have been. this is the campaign has just launched her onlyfans though, so if there was ever a time to go check her out, now is the okay. there we go. right. next up is this video of a tourist in northern ireland not quite getting the vibe of the . quite getting the vibe of the. culture. so that is, the orange march or an orange march? i don't know if it's the one, not really a jovial, event. she's not really getting it, but she's sort of just like, oh, look at these irish people. ha >> probably. >> probably. >> hi. >> hi. >> really? yeah >> really? yeah >> okay, fine. you don't think that. look, i thought she just looked like she was american, and she was just, like, totally oblivious. i think she just hated the irish. >> she knew exactly what it was. she was just sort of. oh, really? >> yeah. they were getting on. on it? >> yeah, i think so. yeah.

>> yeah, i think so. yeah. >> it was pretty funny, right? finally, we have a parody of goodfellas mocking the tories, which has gone viral. and you put a red mark or a red colour over every area where there is no policing, poverty, insufficiency of housing, long hospital, waiting far back as i can remember, i always wanted to be a tory. >> well, i'll tell you this. even before nana escorted me to the square mile for an after school job, i knew i wanted to be part of them. do i amuse? they weren't like everybody else. yeah. you i mean, they did whatever they wanted . whatever they wanted. >> that's. >> that's. >> look, that's enough reason to go back into the cinema there. >> yeah , i'll come with you. >> yeah, i'll come with you. >> yeah, i'll come with you. >> i would watch that. yeah, that does look fantastic. >> it's funny. >> it's funny. >> jacob rees—mogg was pretty scary. yeah well, i thought charismatic. charismatic? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> handsome. yeah. that's very good. so, this made you know who made this? why? >> they made it was crazy,

wasn't it ? wasn't it? >> scorsese? >> scorsese? >> yes. i don't think that he's that bothered by it, but yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty amusing. you make this kind of stuff, you like it, >> i take it i enjoyed it. i could have gone for a longer version . version. >> okay. you think? yeah. you don't think that. >> what was the labour equivalent be? what film would they do, >> five. >> five. >> 9 to 5. »- >> 9 to 5. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> you are someone who's very much up on it at the moment. well, keir starmer quitting work early. is that what you mean, >> yeah. and playing the tune on his nails. >> okay . wow. okay. i thought it >> okay. wow. okay. i thought it was. i don't know what. why? 9 to 5 was chosen. i still don't get it right now. we're going to have the part of the show where we talk through your unfiltered dilemmas. our first dilemma is from joey is that my grandad has just offered me £20,000 for a deposit on a house. he definitely has early onset dementia, but no one else has clocked on. do i take the money? yes. yeah, it doesn't matter. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> where's this house? >> where's this house? >> yes. aberdeen. >> yes. aberdeen. >> we've no idea. yeah it's 20 grand, free and clear. >> yeah. you don't think he

won't remember it? >> it's all good. no one's got pee or a. just take them. >> what do you think? and then jonathan, like then like the week later you go back and say you haven't given me that 20 grand yet. >> oh, you keep doing it. you run up. yeah. run up a tab. what if he wants to move in? what if that's a plan? allow a house. >> he's not going to be around much longer. >> fair enough. really? you guys are pretty. are you sure people can survive for years for this? you guys are harsh. you want to get on the housing ladder? >> not really. it looks like a lot of work stuff breaks. you got to fix it. i'm going to rent forever. i'm going to be a rent king, okay? we're going to be a rent boy. that's something different. >> no, i think that ship has sailed, my love. >> yeah, i'm a yes. >> okay, cool. well, our next dilemma this week is from john. i've just found out that my wife is cheating on me, but i've just been made redundant. should i just sign on the dole and enjoy the euros until i find another job? then leave her, or keep my dignity and leave her now? >> i would leave her now and take up with whoever she was cheating with. >> she saw that there was a video online about a couple who'd found out that their

respective partners were cheating on them, and then booked a table when they knew that they were going to do it. yeah.i that they were going to do it. yeah. i mean, what do you think about this? do you think i think he should do like, an extended plan of revenge where he makes her think she's going crazy so her think she's going crazy so he could like, turn the lights down a bit, hide her handbag in the fridge. >> just over a series of months and years until she finally goes so mad, she just extinguishes herself . herself. >> genuinely terrible. i think what jonathan is saying is don't ever cheat on him , that might be ever cheat on him, that might be it. yeah. this is. >> i'm not watching . >> i'm not watching. >> i'm not watching. >> but the thing is, i mean , >> but the thing is, i mean, this this guy might be on to something just like, enjoy the summer. you know, he doesn't need the stress of breaking up with someone having to move out. it's just, you know, stay in the relationship . stay in an unhappy relationship. >> it's fine. >> it's fine. >> so many people do. >> so many people do. >> yeah , exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> they're all here tonight. >> they're all here tonight. >> that's it for apart from jonathan, who just put glass in her porridge. >> all i'm saying is the important thing is they'll get through it together. >> yeah. okay, fine. you know

what, jonathan? i don't know if i'm going to ask you any more questions. you're slightly terrifying me, right? our final, moral dilemma is from millie. my mum wants to buy me and my new husband a house. i hope this is a lot of themes going on here. they feel like they're all related here. but she's refusing to put his name on the contracts because she says she wants her money to be safe in case we divorce. it sounds like she hates my husband. does she? yes. >> of course. yeah she does. she definitely hates her husband. >> and it's her money. and she can do what she likes. so if you want her money, get rid of him. really? >> would you choose a house over love? >> yes, a house over love. >> everyone would. >> everyone would. >> but you've got such a big beard, it makes no sense. well that's the thing, really? >> and what about you? >> and what about you? >> you can't sleep with the house. i've tried, all right? it's no good. what do i think? i think the mum should start hiding the guy's stuff . make him hiding the guy's stuff. make him think he's going absolutely mental. >> if you just watched a film called gaslighting. >> yeah, just. >> yeah, just. >> just possibly . >> yeah, just. >> just possibly. here. it's a strange one. yeah. i don't know what. i don't know what suggests. i think stay, stay with love and then just kill

them all. >> let god decide. that's what i think. >> okay. thank you so much, jonathan. right. well thank you. joining us this evening for free speech nation. this was the week when the tories got decimated at the polls. the authorities went after a 12 year old for stating facts. and bruce shrunk his suit trousers in the wash. thank you to my panel. bruce devlin and jonathan kogan . and to my jonathan kogan. and to my guests, harry miller , joe guests, harry miller, joe bartosh, precious muir, fiona mckenna and john christopher muir . and if you want to join muir. and if you want to join us, live in the studio and be part of our wonderful audience, you can please go to w dot sro audiences.com. stay tuned for the brilliant mark dolan tonight. that's next. and don't forget the headliners is on every night at 11 pm. that's the late night paper preview show where comedians talk you through the next day's top news stories. thank you very much for watching free speech nation, and we will hopefully see you next week. well, we will be here next week, but andrew, eric,

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