like sewing under margaret thatcher and after thursday's defeat, where do the tories go from here in the big story? who should lead the conservative party? i'll be asking former tory mps sir philip davies, who lost his seat on thursday. and in my take at ten, afterjust 24 in my take at ten, after just 24 hours in office, sir keir starmer makes his first major mistake. he has scrapped the rwanda plan. you can hear the champagne corks popping in calais as as we speak, britain's borders are now wide open. i'll be dealing with our new pm in no uncertain terms in my take at ten. two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment and two very fresh faces on my panel tonight. lots to get through. is the brexit betrayal on the way? find out. in my big opinion, after the news

headunes opinion, after the news headlines and tatiana sanchez . headlines and tatiana sanchez. >> mark thank you and good evening. the top stories this houn evening. the top stories this hour. the home secretary has set out the first steps towards setting up a uk border security command, which the government hopes will reduce small boat crossings in the english channel. work to recruit an exceptional leader to head the body will begin tomorrow with the government preparing a bill to create counter—terror powers aimed at tackling organised immigration crime. the home office says the command leader is expected to be appointed within the next few weeks, and would draw together work of intelligence agencies , police, intelligence agencies, police, immigration enforcement and border force. yvette cooper says a major upgrade in law enforcement is needed to stop the boats. >> no one should be making these dangerous boat crossings. this is undermining our border security as well as having lives, being put at risk. but that's why we have to have a major upgrade in law enforcement. and i have

immediately started the work on that in the home office . that that in the home office. that includes the recruitment of a new border security commander, the establishment of a new border security command, and also the recruitment of new cross border police, including to work right across europe to tackle this problem at source , tackle this problem at source, the prime minister has begun a uk tour as he tries to reset the relationship between westminster and the devolved nations. >> mr swinney welcomed sir keir to bute house for one of his first engagements after being appointed as prime minister. sir keir used talks with mr swinney to set the framework within which we can work better for scotland, he said when asked about scottish independence, sir keir refused to go into detail but said they'll work together. >> we were a joint view that we can work constructively together. i am absolutely clear that during the campaign i made a commitment that my labour government would deliver for scotland. that's why i'm back here making good on that commitment that promise and

starting the work of change across scotland and took this opportunity to reset relations with the first minister and deputy first minister. and we will take forward further steps to ensure that that is bedded in. >> now, the uk's new defence secretary has pledged to step up the uk's support for ukraine on a visit to odesa following a meeting with president zelenskyy and his defensive counterpart, john healey announced the uk would provide a new package of support, including more artillery guns, a quarter of a million ammunition rounds and nearly 100 precision brimstone missiles . nearly 100 precision brimstone missiles. the nearly 100 precision brimstone missiles . the defence secretary missiles. the defence secretary also pledged to fast track military support committed for ukraine in april to arrive within the next 100 days. and finally, emma raducanu is out of wimbledon after losing in three sets six two, five seven, six two to qualifier lulu sun in the fourth round. raducanu was the last remaining british player in either singles draw at the all

england club, and she was looking for a spot in the quarter finals for the very first time. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now. i'm tatiana sanchez. more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> lovely job tatiana. we'll see you in an hour's time. welcome to a busy mark dolan tonight in the big story. who should lead the big story. who should lead the conservative party next? i'll be asking former tory mp sir philip davies, who lost his seat on thursday. can britain's special relationship survive a labour government if donald trump wins in november? and my mark menzies guest is former foreign secretary sir malcolm rifkind. what was it like serving under margaret thatcher

and after thursday's defeat, where do the tories go from here? and in my take at ten, in an hour's time, afterjust 24 an hour's time, after just 24 hours in office, sir keir starmer has already made his first mistake. he has scrapped the rwanda plan. you can hear the rwanda plan. you can hear the champagne corks popping in calais as we speak. britain's borders are now wide open. i'll be dealing with our new pm in no uncertain terms in my take at ten and reacting to the big stories of the day. a brand new star on mark dolan tonight, former political editor of lbc, theo usherwood. labour party activist susie stride and broadcaster and campaigner chris wild. plus, the most important part of the show your views . part of the show your views. they come straight to my laptop gbnews.com/yoursay and this show has a golden rule we don't do

bonng. has a golden rule we don't do boring . not on my watch. i just boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so a big two hours to come. keir starmer and the rwanda plan at ten. but first my big opinion. the rwanda plan at ten. but first my big opinion . you would first my big opinion. you would think that our new government has enough on its hands. the cost of living , crumbling has enough on its hands. the cost of living, crumbling public services, eye—watering debt, illegal immigration without worrying about renegotiating brexit. i've had my differences with boris johnson over the years , particularly the wild and years, particularly the wild and in my view, completely failed experiments of lockdowns which have caused untold damage to the country. but his great triumph, and for which history will judge him kindly, was getting brexit done so that we could move on as a nation and move on. we have our economy currently sits at the top of the g7 biggest industrial nations in the world, ahead of america and the

international monetary fund has predicted that over the next five years we will enjoy higher per capita growth than germany, italy , france and japan. since italy, france and japan. since brexit, we've gone from seven to number number four in the world for exports, and we've just leapfrogged france to go number eight globally as a manufacturing superpower. and we have the sixth biggest economy in the world, worth a cool $3.3 trillion annually. so call me old fashioned , but i think that old fashioned, but i think that the trade deal that we struck with the eu seems to be pretty effective, particularly given that exports to the eu itself are also wait for it at a record high. since brexit. it is now in the gift of this brand new government to truly enhance the united kingdom and transform its future . we are once again future. we are once again sovereign, with the ability to

strike, trade deals, control our borders. let's hope we do that one day and participate in the fastest growing markets in the world, leaving behind the eurozone who have spent the last two years languishing in the red. the long expected long anticipated, well reported brexit disaster has not happened.a brexit disaster has not happened. a housing market crash, mass unemployment and economic depression. the flight of capital, a brain drain of our finest talent. none of it came to pass. britain is now the most successful country in europe, and yet labour wants to go back to them and ask for help and sacrifice. our freedoms for their pleasure. make it make sense. this is our new government fixing something that just ain't broke, like the non—doms and the private school tax raid. this is politics, not economics . the excellent mail on economics. the excellent mail on sunday newspaper report that sir

keir starmer will start the process to renegotiate britain's post—brexit deal within weeks. the new prime minister reportedly wants more relaxed freedom of movement rules and lower trade barriers, and is willing to sign the uk back up to brussels rules . willing to sign the uk back up to brussels rules. in willing to sign the uk back up to brussels rules . in exchange, to brussels rules. in exchange, sources expect the prime minister to seek the removal of trade barriers in exchange for dynamic alignment . what is that? dynamic alignment. what is that? well, it's brussels jargon for being subjected to eu red tape . being subjected to eu red tape. now. labour last night insisted the issue was not on the agenda, but sir keir starmer has previously promised a inverted commas much better trade deal with brussels than the agreement signed by boris johnson in 2020. but as the mail on sunday newspaper argues, this is the thin end of the wedge. any changes to migration and travel arrangements that the eu agrees, however harmless they might seem , however harmless they might seem, would inevitably take britain

closer to obeying brussels rules. the irish pm has said that the european union wants to work more closely with sir keir starmer on uk eu relations. yikes. and as foreign secretary david lammy embarks on a tour of germany, poland and sweden, he has said that his desire to reset relations with brussels is, and i quote, just the beginning, double yikes. now labour keeps saying that there will be no return to free movement or joining the customs union. but according to the heroic former brexit negotiator lord david frost, this is misleading because with so—called dynamic alignment, he argues, we would be subject to eu law and sit under the jurisdiction of the eu courts . jurisdiction of the eu courts. and of course, don't forget that starmer wants help from the eu to stop the boats, which could see a reciprocal deal in which we accept up to 100,000

migrants. a year. when you finally escape a prison, the last thing you want to do is go back in. but that's exactly what could happen under a prime minister in sir keir starmer, who fought tooth and nail to reverse brexit, whilst shadow brexit secretary backing the wrong political horse. not for the first time, we are finally out, we are finally free and britain is thriving on the global stage. but this new labour government risks throwing it all away by gradually taking us back in. in 2020 we got brexit done. four years on, it risks being undone. can you believe it ? your reaction gb believe it? your reaction gb news com forward slash your say i'll get to your messages shortly. but first tonight's top punst shortly. but first tonight's top pundits am delighted to welcome a brand new star on mark dolan.

tonight we have the former political editor of lbc, no less, theo usherwood, labour party activist , still in a good party activist, still in a good mood. still drunk, probably susie strike and campaigner and author chris wild. chris, good to see you again. lovely to see you, all three of you. thank you. could i start with you, sufie? you. could i start with you, susie? first of all, congratulations on the arrival, the election of a new labour government. are you still buzzing? >> i am, i'm quite tired. i was up to one half five, you know, watching all the results come through. but yeah, i'm really excited. we've got just so many incredible new labour mps. so yeah. >> look, i think that the labour government can do some great things. i said in my big opinion last night that anything keir starmer gets right, i will applaud him and we'll be talking about rwanda at ten. but labour don't need to renegotiate brexit, do they? because britain is already thriving. >> yeah i mean look i mean i really i'm so confused as to what people are talking about here. no one has said anyone's renegotiating brexit. brexit is over and it's done and we are

bored even of the word. so let's all not talk about it anymore. we're moving forward and we're saying and surely this makes sense, we want that relationship to be the best it can be for the british people. what does that mean? it means yes, we want the best. okay, so we've got some good trade agreements. let's make them better. why not? that's all that's being said here, susie. >> the eu will always want their pound of flesh. and if we're going to have more sort of alignment with the eu market, that will involve following eu rules , eu red tape and the rules, eu red tape and the jurisdiction of eu courts, that's not what people voted for in 2016. >> i absolutely agree with you, and i'm going to be honest with you. do you know what's really interesting listening to you is just thinking. thinking of keir starmer, we had this conversation last time about keir starmer and corbyn and actually you can see how strong keir starmer can be because he deau keir starmer can be because he dealt with the hard left and he deau dealt with the hard left and he dealt with the hard left and he dealt with jeremy corbyn and i think let's just wait and see because i don't think he's going to be bowing to anyone. i don't think he's gonna be bowing to these people. i think he's going to do is get the best for

britain, which i think we all want. and i think we've got to be really careful about this fear politics of we're not going to be opening up the gates. >> am i not entitled to worry about a prime minister that fought tooth and nail to reverse brexit when he was shadow brexit secretary? >> look, do you know what i think's good is that someone can fight for something in the time that that's the role they had, and then they accept what the british people said. and now he's getting on with a completely different mandate. >> you're sending in a fox into the hen house, aren't you, with keir starmer? i mean, he and many labour mps would love us to be back in, and they'll do it by a thousand cuts. >> what i think is going to happenis >> what i think is going to happen is this, this whole thing of like, oh, you know, we're going to go back in. no, i think what we're going to do is, is build the right relationship that gets the right outcome for british people and particularly for small businesses, particularly like, you know, for the communities, for the communities more than anything. yeah.i communities more than anything. yeah. i mean, i don't i don't know all the details here, but it's to do with like agriculture and like where there's been all these tariffs that have caused three rules for fishing. yeah.

yeah. and also students and also music, you know, people involved in the music industry. we want to make it better of course. >> but chris wild there's no such thing as a free lunch. and we'll have to sacrifice sovereignty for those things to happen that will be unpalatable to many of my viewers and listeners . listeners. >> yeah, of course, but i just want to disagree as well. you're saying the economy is stronger? it really isn't. i'm working the community's £40 billion wiped from our economy , you know, from our economy, you know, where is this strength? >> where is this this number of 40 billion? >> well, that's that's what my research before i came on. but that's what how much it's going to cost. >> but this is what was projected. and this is based on sort of i'm sorry to filter this back down to the communities. >> right. you talk about it's a stronger economy. it isn't. we've got more food banks now than any other country in europe. we've got people starving. we've got people who can't afford to eat. where is the strength? >> there is a closer relationship with the eu would fix that. >> of course it will do. we were in a better position before, i know i was. we spoke about this last time. olive oil £8.50. >> if you think about it, we've had a pandemic. we've had a war in ukraine, which is no, no, no ho. 110.

>> no. >> sorry, sorry, i disagree, i disagree. well that's the conservative rhetoric is it. that's the conservative rhetoric. blame it on a war in ukraine, blame on covid. no. blame it on brexit. >> the war on ukraine is quadrupled, energy prices and the pandemic saw us borrow half £1 trillion. what is brexit? >> brexit is decimated this country. >> okay, well i don't think it adds up now my view is and listen as theo will be very nervous about this flirtation with brussels, given the fact that we're out, why would you return to that brexit agreement? >> so i think what the labour are looking at doing is doing it on a sector by sector basis with chemicals, car manufacturing and what they're looking at doing is coming in and saying let's do dynamic alignment. >> at the moment there's a huge amount of red tape bureaucracy, which slows down trade, particularly when you're looking at assembling something with multiple parts or multiple across the european union. and when it comes to trade into this country and then importing and exporting, it slows the whole process down. and it's and those businesses would now sign up to

european union rules, not just in the short term. they sign up going forward. and we don't because we're no longer part of the european union. we don't have a say over those rules. and so what dynamic alignment means is that if in europe they decide to change the rules, we put our hands up and say, yes, we'll take them. that's that's what it means. and then what i think the fear is, is that when one industry gets it, you'll have another industry that wants it and another industry that wants it. and soon we'll end up in the situation, which was theresa may's original deal, where we're members of the single market and the customs union union in all but name, and that would be now that's fine and it works. but then what? that will then do is it will cut across trade deals that we have signed with outside of the european union because those weather, then the weather in the pacific or with countries in the pacific or with countries in north america. and you might say that those trade deals aren't worth a huge amount, but those countries and those trade blocs will then come in and say, well, hang on a moment. you're signed up to the european union rules. now, we're not going to do business on favourable terms with you, and that's okay. but

it's a choice that has to be made indeed. >> but it will briefly if you can, theo. >> this will anger many of my viewers and listeners who voted in 2016 to get out, and they're worried that this government is going to slowly get us back in and they won't like. >> and i imagine many of your viewers and listeners will not like what has happened with theresa may. they like the fact that nigel farage pushed in effectively pushed in boris johnson into the post, and then that he went and signed up to a well, which was the original deal with northern ireland and the border down the middle of the border down the middle of the irish sea. that's okay. but but what i'm saying is that this is it may not be a membership of the european union by the back doon the european union by the back door, but it is the case that we will have to go by european union rules in certain sectors, and it could be right across the industry , right across industry industry, right across industry realignment. yeah. realignment. yeah. and that is a choice that has to be made. >> well, i've got to say i think we britain booming. this would be madness. i want trade deals with the united states , with with the united states, with india and with japan. all of that would be imperilled by following eu rules. what is your reaction ? gbnews.com/yoursay. reaction? gbnews.com/yoursay. but next up in the big story,

who should lead the conservative party? next? i'll be asking former tory mp sir philip davies, who lost his seat on thursday. he's

>> is labour going to reverse brexit? this from. let's have a look at de nun. who is gb news member. good evening. how are you? de nun? says mark. i love it when people don't accept the pandemic and the war is an excuse for a bad economy. but do accept brexit. we'll get to more of your messages very shortly. don't forget, at 10:00, keir starmer has made his first major mistake. that's right. he has scrapped the rwanda plan. i'll be tackling that in no uncertain terms. in my take at ten, you won't want to miss it, but it's time now for the big story and the bookmakers are already

taking money on the next tory party leader, with paddy power and ladbrokes considering former business secretary kemi badenoch to be the favourite, followed by robert jenrick and tom tugendhat, with former home secretary priti patel and suella braverman in fifth and sixth place respectively. of course, this time round it's more than a beauty contest, with the party having to decide whether it shifts to the right to accommodate reform uk voters or pursue the centre ground , so pursue the centre ground, so should they head to the centre ground ? should they head left or ground? should they head left or right to discuss this? i'm delighted to welcome the former conservative member of parliament for shipley , sir parliament for shipley, sir philip davies, phil, great to see you. first of all, my commiserations at losing shipley following almost two decades of service to your constituents. it can't have been an easy week for you. now you've had a couple of days for the dust to settle. what are your abiding emotions at this stage ?

at this stage? >> well, look, my defeat wasn't unexpected, mark, to be perfectly honest , particularly perfectly honest, particularly in the current political climate. and when you look at some of the other seats that we lost, holding to on shipley was always going to be a tough, a tough ask . and, look, i've got tough ask. and, look, i've got no complaints. the, the person, you know, i've got no one to blame for my defeat other than myself. the, the labour candidate who won is a very good person. she ran a very good campaign. effective, clean campaign. effective, clean campaign. she deserved to win. so i've got no complaints . i've so i've got no complaints. i've had a good innings. i've had a good run, and so you won't hear any complaints from me about, about the result or what happened, >> okay. well, i know it's, it's obviously difficult to be leaving the house of commons so swiftly , but let's talk about swiftly, but let's talk about what next for the party. apart from the obvious, which is replacing the leader, what do the conservatives need to do next? >> well, look, we've got to earn back the trust of the british people. i mean, basically politics is about trust. and unfortunately, the election, too

many people didn't trust us anymore. and we've got to earn back that trust. that's that's. and, you know, that takes a long time. it's not going to be overnight, we shouldn't be making any panic decisions or rush decisions or anything like that. labour support is clearly, very, you know, it's very shallow, so, i think we get our act together in the next few years. there's no reason why we can't win, win that next election. but we've just got to take our time, not do anything rash, not panic , and obviously, rash, not panic, and obviously, ultimately, mark, what we've got to do. i mean, this is blindingly obvious, but we've got to unite the right wing of british politics again in a first past the post system. if your side is divided, you can't win that. labour found that in the 1980s, when they had the sdp break away, and we're finding that now. so we've got to find a way of uniting conservative with a small c people. behind us, and

i don't think that should be through any kind of merger with reform. i think that would be a mistake. i think it would be too difficult to achieve, look , i'm difficult to achieve, look, i'm a i'm a big fan of nigel farage. i probably agree with him on far more things than i disagree with him, but i think i think, you know, when you get the egos and personalities and all the rest of it, it'd be too difficult . of it, it'd be too difficult. may we have to come to some electoral arrangement with them at future elections then perhaps thatis at future elections then perhaps that is something that might be worth exploring. but look, the first thing is. but that's that's a long way down the line. the first thing is we've got to restore trust in our brand and we've got to more. the most important thing we've got to hold the labour government to account. i mean, as you've made clear, starmer's already started off badly by scrapping the rwanda scheme. we can't afford to be self—indulgent and talking about ourselves all the time. we've got an important constitutional duty to perform, and that's holding this wretched government to account. >> now at the moment, the

bookmakers, philip, have kemi badenoch as favourite, followed by robert jenrick, tom tugendhat, james cleverly, priti patel and suella braverman. do any of those names? catch your eye? >> well, look, they've , they've >> well, look, they've, they've all got, they've all got strengths and they've all got appeal, strengths and they've all got appeal , and, strengths and they've all got appeal, and, there's clearly going to be a wide there'll be a wide selection of candidates and too not many people in the electorate to vote for them. so you know, in terms of the bookmakers odds, it's, it's difficult to know because there's so few people in the parliamentary party at the moment that you're not going to need a massive number of people voting for you in order to win this contest. so, and i, i don't know, i don't know how the people were who were still in the house of commons are going to vote. so it's, but somebody, you know, somebody can win this , you know, somebody can win this, with a small number of votes, can't they? >> most definitely . given the >> most definitely. given the support for reform uk 4 million votes on thursday , does the

votes on thursday, does the leader, the next leader of the tory party, need to come from the right? does it need to be a badenoch, a braverman or a patel, >> it's not really a right and a left thing. i mean, look, i suppose i you could park me firmly on the right of the conservative party and obviously i want somebody who agrees with the things that i agree with. but look, in terms of restoring trust in a brand, it's mainly about the person and it's about their integrity and all the rest of it. that's what's that's what's important. and then speaking up for, for what? the issues that people are concerned about. and, you know, immigration is clearly, at the top of that list. but, you know , top of that list. but, you know, people are also really concerned about nhs waiting lists and about nhs waiting lists and about the housing market and things like that . it's not it's things like that. it's not it's not just a left, a left right thing. and, you know , it's thing. and, you know, it's mainly about restoring trust in the conservative brand, speaking about the things that the public are speaking about, which tends to be not just about ourselves. all the time, and that's the that's the, that's the most

important thing. and look, all of those, all of those people have got their have got particular qualities, and i'm sure that all of them will find support from, from different people. >> a couple of seconds to go, two quick ones if i can. do you think that the party should wait until perhaps the october party conference to announce the new leader? first of all, should they take their time with a successor to rishi sunak ? yes. successor to rishi sunak? yes. okay and you've done a lot with your life. so far, sir philip. a long career as senior management in the supermarket business, broadcasting here @gbnews and a very popular mp for 19 years. what is next for you? >> i don't know, mark, but if, if, if, if losing on thursday gives me more opportunity to spendin gives me more opportunity to spend in the gb news studio with you , then it will have been, it you, then it will have been, it will have been a huge benefit for me . if i will have been a huge benefit for me. if i can will have been a huge benefit for me . if i can spend more time for me. if i can spend more time with you in the gb news studio , with you in the gb news studio, i wouldn't complain about doing that. mark. >> oh well. have you all day long. i look forward to seeing you here @gbnews in the very

near future. philip, thank you so much forjoining us. my thanks to former conservative mp sir philip davies, who you most certainly will see returning to mark dolan tonight and no doubt plenty of other shows on the channel next up, can britain survive a labour government and particularly in relation to the special relationship, if donald trump wins in november? donald versus starmer, that's

next. well, the prime minister scraps the rwanda plan. i'll be tackling that issue in my take at ten. in just 25 minutes time. you won't want to miss it, but first, our new foreign secretary, the remarkably sort of entertaining david lammy, previously called president trump a neo nazi sympathising sociopath. in a 2018 opinion piece for time magazine , lammy,

piece for time magazine, lammy, a labour lawmaker from tottenham, was appointed secretary of state for foreign, commonwealth and development affairs on friday following labour's victory in parliamentary elections. he has previously addressed his 2018 criticism of trump and pledged to work with the former president if he is elected in november. but can the special relationship survive a labour government , particularly if government, particularly if donald trump wins in november? theo usherwood, what do you think about this? i think it's going to be very, very difficult for labour, and i think it's going to cause real friction. >> and i think especially with the election of nigel farage, donald trump doesn't care about formalities. he doesn't do the playbook that whitehall in london will want. he won't . he london will want. he won't. he won't go through number 10 if farage is on the opposition benches, he'll become his link with the uk. and that's a huge problem for keir starmer, for david lammy, i was surprised. i like david lammy, he's a good i think he's got lots of

attributes but i was surprised given where the american elections are potentially heading, that keir starmer, there'd been some question marks around it. i was surprised he decided to promote david lammy to that position, given what he'd said previously. nonetheless, he's in the post and he's going to have to work with mr trump if or his administration , rather if he administration, rather if he becomes if mr trump wins that election . but i would have election. but i would have thought that keir starmer might have been more cautious. he had a very warm phone call, which was publicised on social media with joe biden. but you can just look at the opinion polls, you can look at that debate that last what happened last week with between biden and trump. it's by no means guaranteed that the democrats are going to win this election. if anything, it's likely that they're going to lose this election and donald trump is going to be president. and we have a special relationship with the united states. and it's very difficult to see how that special relationship continues with for keir starmer and for david lammy. when nigel farage is in office at a crucial time, when, office at a crucial time, when, of course, russia is threatening , of course, russia is threatening, is at war in ukraine and we need

and europe needs support. >> indeed . susie stride, you can >> indeed. susie stride, you can like donald trump, not like him, but he might be about to become the most powerful man in the world in november. is that a problem for labour, given the track record of the of the foreign secretary, david lammy? >> i don't think it is. you know, look, david cameron was our foreign secretary and he made very derogatory comments about donald trump in his memoir. and then he became foreign secretary and that one was worrying about that. or we were talking about that on gb news. and i think we were i think it's all calmed down. i know david lammy very well. i think, you know , let's not think, you know, let's not underestimate people's intelligence and ability here. i think keir starmer and david lammy will rise to the challenge. ultimately we have more in common with america than we don't have in common with them. you know, look, i've done a lot with iranian refugees and you've got some pretty evil dictators out there. you know, i don't agree with a whole lot of stuff that donald trump says or does. however, if i had to work with him as foreign secretary, obviously that's not my

position, then you would just say never. then you just you get on with the job, you know, and there's this thing, isn't there? like we keep saying, this leadership is about serving. and if it's about serving in many ways, you have to put these other things to the side. and i you know, i definitely hear what's being said here. maybe there'll be some things that have to be rolled over. yeah. >> but i think is it not a worry that donald trump congratulated nigel farage on friday morning after winning his seat, but did not congratulate the prime minister, keir starmer? >> no, not really. i mean, i wouldn't have expected anything different from donald trump to be honest. look, he's it's the way he is . however, if donald way he is. however, if donald trump does win now, i'm going to be honest with you . well, i be honest with you. well, i won't comment on that. if donald trump does win , i think that trump does win, i think that what you will see is he knows because he's an intelligent individual. he knows he's going to need to work with the prime minister of britain. and so i think, you know, both of them, you know , and also there's also you know, and also there's also there's that thing, isn't there? it's like, what was his name? george bush and tony blair in many ways. you could say, well, how are they going to get on?

but they got on. and i think, you know, they'll sit down, they'll have a cup of tea or a beer or whatever. people do, and they'll look into each other's eyes and they'll find a way. and people do find a way. >> well, you have to hope. >> well, you have to hope. >> many watching and listening, though, will take the view that a conservative prime minister is far more likely to get a trade deal with donald trump than sir keir starmer. is that fair ? keir starmer. is that fair? >> i don't know what this thing is about. keir starmer, i think he's the epitome of a good statesman. i think he'll do very well for the labour party. i'll do very well for the country and l, do very well for the country and i, and i personally think he'll have a good relationship with donald trump because they're completely different to each other. and i think he won't be bullied like the rest of them . bullied like the rest of them. he won't be kind of taken on by this facade. i think he'll do well, and i think he'll that there'll be a good relationship. i think you know, let's give him a shot. let's see what happens. well, let's certainly hope that that happens, folks . that happens, folks. >> lots more to get through, next up, my marc meats guest is former foreign secretary, sir malcolm rifkind. what was it like serving under margaret thatcher? and after thursday's defeat, where do tories go from here? that's

next. coming up in my take at ten. after just 24 hours in office, sir keir starmer has already made his first mistake. he has scrapped the rwanda plan. you can hear the champagne corks popping can hear the champagne corks popping in calais as we speak. thatis popping in calais as we speak. that is my take. at 10 in 15 minutes time, you won't want to miss it. but first mark meets. on this evening, one of the most experienced and distinguished politicians in the country, former conservative mp and ex—defence transport and foreign secretary sir malcolm rifkind, who served in the cabinets of both margaret thatcher and john major from 1985 to 1997. sir malcolm also served as chair of the intelligence and security committee in parliament, and as

a proud scotsman. he was scottish secretary from 1986 to 1990. his memoirs, power and pragmatism, were released in 2016 to positive reviews, and sir malcolm rifkind joins me now. sir malcolm, welcome to mark dolan. >> thank you very much, >> thank you very much, >> your career in parliament was very long. you entered the house of commons in february 1974. that was a month before my birth. >> i should emphasise i was only 27 at the time. you're young, otherwise you're making me even older than i actually am. >> definitely. well, you wear it very well, you ultimately supported margaret thatcher for the leadership of the party at that time? yes. what were your first impressions of her? well, i didn't support her on the first round. >> i just became. i just became an mp. i knew ed ted heath didn't particularly approve of his record, but margaret thatcher's reputation at that time was rather shrill, rather, she hadn't been a particularly good education secretary, and i just out of loyalty. i voted for heath when he stepped down and

there was a competition. i've always been on this sort of one nafion always been on this sort of one nation end of the party, so instinctively i ought to have supported willie whitelaw or somebody like that. i didn't, i supported margaret thatcher. and you know why? because i'd watched her in the house of commons, and i thought she was a real we were in opposition. we needed somebody to inspire. and i thought she had the personal qualities to inspire and to capture the imagination of the country, which she did. so i got that one right. >> are there any figures in the current conservative party of her ilk that you might like to see lead the party? >> well, i'm not going to be evasive, but what i'm going to say is when margaret thatcher stood against ted heath, nobody thought she had the calibre to be a prime minister. she'd been an education secretary. that was her only experience. hadn't done it brilliantly. well, perfectly competent, but not. it was thatcher. milk snatcher was the reputation and so forth. and yet she then developed and demonstrated the qualities not for just leadership, but for inspiring, credibly inspiring leadership. so there could

easily be one of the candidates, or even more than one who comes up to that category, somebody that perhaps isn't a household name at this stage. >> well, they may become a household name because that is the way politics goes. and of course, thatcher had four years to prepare for becoming prime minister in opposition. and that's going to happen for whoever takes over right now, possibly five years, possibly ten, maybe ten. do you think that's the case? do you? >> well, it can't be ruled out. i mean, tony won blair in 97 and he was and then had gordon brown and that was 14 years or 12 years, 12 or 13 years. >> you wouldn't like to see ten years of labour rule. >> i don't like to see 12 months, but that's another m atter. >> so matter. >> so how might the party go about preventing it? well, in all seriousness, what it has to do, i know there's some people saying we've we've got to get back to being a party of the right wing. >> well, we are a right party, but we're also a centre party. we're a centre right and it's a coalition, isn't it? the conservative party all political parties are coalitions. you've got to ask yourself, the tory party is the oldest political party in the world. why has it survived and prospered for most of the last 200 years? it's done

that because it has always kept in touch with the british public and the british public. some identify with the right, some identify with the right, some identify with the left, some with the centre, and we have always been a pragmatic party, not ideological, but centre right. if you're a centre right, that means you're not centre and you're not right, you're centre right. and unless we remember that, yes, we will win back some people who voted for farage. but we will lose that broad mass of the centre ground and we'll be like labour was when jeremy corbyn took over. >> so how do you accommodate those 4 million people who voted for reform, a good number of whom would have voted conservative and might have led to a less embarrassing defeat ? to a less embarrassing defeat? >> well, you have to ask first, why did we lose not just lose power? because that was not surprising after 14 years. but we lost power in the scale that we lost power in the scale that we did. the collapse of the tory vote was not about right wing left wing. it was because the brand of conservatism had been trashed during the boris johnson prime ministership and the liz truss episode, we looked a

laughing stock in the eyes of the world, and the british pubuc the world, and the british public were embarrassed and said, you guys, you don't deserve to govern. we all know that to be true. it wasn't an ideological choice. it was you've run out of steam, you've run out of unity , and you're run out of unity, and you're behaving as if you're entitled to be the government. during the now, sunak was not perfect, far from it. but he began to restore some reputation for integrity in british government. i could see the way he was respected by other heads of government in a way that i'm afraid his predecessors weren't. >> i'm sure much of that in terms of what you said is true and a fair analysis. but is the elephant in the room not immigration? and did the conservatives take their eyes off the ball with legal net migration of 700,000 people last year? >> i think you could make it the size of leeds in a year. i think you put your finger on it, but not in quite the way i would present the issue. you're right that migration has to be an issue because although there are strong economic arguments in favour of having more migrants, you have to be comfortable and the public have to be comfortable and satisfied that

the people who come to make their homes in the country are going to be willing and able to accept our values and to gradually become, you know, real british citizens . now, the vast british citizens. now, the vast majority of migrants do. but we all know there's a very significant minority who have not yet done so and may not wish to do so. >> but also is the dosage, not the poison. it's the sheer scale that has given nigel farage a political opportunity. >> well, farage is a pure opportunist. i mean, i was listening to the earlier part of your programme and of course, farage and trump get on well because they're exactly the same kind of people. they're narcissistic , they don't have an narcissistic, they don't have an ideology, they have a set of headlines, a set of prejudices. well, nigel farage had a set of policies which earned him 4 million votes. it wasn't it wasn't the policies. it was the personality. farage who said he'd stop the boats and he'd reduced look level net migration to every essential, every party leader has said they will deal with the issue of migration . with the issue of migration. they've all failed to do so. and the idea that farage, of all people, has that little tiny

amount of practical experience, if he's even got that of running government, we do not know any practical ways in which he would implement his prejudices . but he implement his prejudices. but he is a brilliant campaigner. boris johnson was a brilliant campaigner. >> prime minister could end legal net migration tomorrow if they so chose, if they so chose and that's what prime minister nigel farage has said he would do. >> well, i'm not sure this interview was meant to be about immigration policy. not, of course not. well, actually. >> well, that's exactly right. let's get on to because i want to talk about your amazing career, you grew up in edinburgh. a scottish tory is a rare thing. what made you one? >> well, part of your family background ? we were a background? we were a conservative voting family. but also, i've always believed that politics in a democracy . yes, politics in a democracy. yes, there are real differences between the political parties, but it's the shared values that create a stable society. and thatis create a stable society. and that is essentially been the reason why conservatism has been so important in keeping britain a stable, united democracy. you just have to look at the last 72

hours and compare it with the chaos in america when biden beat trump and trump tried almost trashed the american constitution . what happened in constitution. what happened in britain was sunak very with great dignity, not only handed over power, but complimented his opponent and got a reciprocal compliment from starmer in his opening remarks. in his speech. now that helped change the atmosphere. it doesn't solve the problems, but it shows that we respect democracy. we don't just pay lip respect democracy. we don't just pay lip service to it. and when the people speak both sides, both the victor and the defeated respect it. not just in theory, but in substance. >> you've held many offices of state, most notably former foreign secretary. can ukraine defeat russia? should we continue to support ukraine all the way we have to support ukraine because they're entitled not just to our support but of the international community. to those who argue, it's an unwinnable war or a forever war, well, that's very much for the ukrainians to decide. >> you know, when putin invaded ukraine, a lot of people myself

included, thought the ukrainians would be too weak. and then within days, within weeks, they would be conquered. far from it . would be conquered. far from it. they showed incredible resilience. many president zelenskyy, but also his own people. and they not only stopped the russians in their tracks, they reversed. they recaptured half the territory they had lost, not the other half. but so far they've already achieved their position in history. they've shown that size is not everything. when you're defending your own country, whose very existence has threatened you, fight a hell of a lot better, sir malcolm, when you're attacking somebody else's. >> sir malcolm, do you think a deal can be done with vladimir putin? >> look, a compromise , a deal >> look, a compromise, a deal requires a compromise by both sides. putin is not yet. if you were foreign secretary, would you be seeking a deal? no, i would always emphasise the ukrainians. we have not lost a single british life in this war. we've given huge amounts of help to ukraine, as has france, as has the united states. it's the ukrainians who are fighting and dying, defending their country . dying, defending their country. they're the people who must decide if and when the time may

come to try to see if a negotiation is possible. >> sir malcolm, you were born to a jewish family that i understand emigrated to britain in the 1890s from lithuania . the in the 1890s from lithuania. the october the 7th attacks were truly horrific , truly truly horrific, truly devastating. the single biggest attack on jewish people since the holocaust. and in my view, israel's response a desire for self—defence . entirely self—defence. entirely understandable. has israel gone too far in pursuit of its key military objective of eliminating hamas ? eliminating hamas? >> well, i don't want to get into the detail of that. let me try and answer your question, but dealing with a much more fundamental issue. yes, israel had to make a military response to what happened in because of hamas. that was entirely justified in any civilised country would have done that . country would have done that. but as israeli prime ministers before netanyahu have all appreciated, you do not solve a fundamental problem by military means alone. the military means are the necessary precursor, but

you have ultimately to have a political solution and the political solution and the political solution. not the best, the only solution for israel and the palestinians is a two state solution. now, you mentioned my personal background. i actually was when i was foreign secretary. i was the first british foreign secretary to commit the united kingdom to supporting a palestinian state existing alongside an israeli one. and when people tell me today, oh, well, that's surely impossible. it's inconceivable they'll ever reach agreement. i simply ask them to remember who thought that apartheid would disappear from south africa without a civil war, and people , huge civil war, and people, huge numbers of people were being killed. it ended peacefully. who expected the soviet union simply to disintegrate as a state? the cold war to an end without a war being fought. it happened because you didn't have just politicians. you had statesmen. gorbachev, thatcher, mandela, and of course, peace in northern ireland and peace in northern ireland. by your former boss. >> yes, sir john major. ireland. by your former boss. >> yes, sirjohn major. sir malcolm, we're out of time. please come back and see us again soon. right. village to meet you , former foreign

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>> it's 10:00. on television. on >> it's10:00. on television. on radio and online, in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my take. at ten, afterjust 24 take. at ten, after just 24 hours in office, sir keir starmer has already made his first major mistake . he has first major mistake. he has scrapped the rwanda plan. you can hear the champagne corks popping can hear the champagne corks popping in calais as we speak. britain's borders are now wide

open. i'll be dealing with our new pm and this terrible mistake in no uncertain terms in just a moment . also tonight, should the moment. also tonight, should the tories and reform merge before the next election, i'll be asking former conservative government minister and now reform uk spokeswoman ann widdecombe . plus, at tomorrow's widdecombe. plus, at tomorrow's newspaper front pages, a packed show, lots to get through. keir starmer's first major mistake . starmer's first major mistake. i'll be calling it out in my take at ten straight after the headunes take at ten straight after the headlines with someone that simply doesn't have a mistake in her. tatiana sanchez . her. tatiana sanchez. >> mark. thank you. the top stories this evening. the home secretary has set out the first steps towards setting up a uk border security command, which the government hopes will reduce small boat crossings in the engush small boat crossings in the english channel. work to recruit

an exceptional leader will begin tomorrow, with the government preparing a bill to create counter—terror powers aimed at tackling organised immigration crime. the home office says the command leaders expected to be appointed within weeks and would draw together work of intelligence agencies , police, intelligence agencies, police, immigration enforcement and border force. yvette cooper says a major upgrade in law enforcement is needed to stop the boats. >> no one should be making these dangerous boat crossings. this is undermining our border security as well as having lives being put at risk. but that's why we have to have a major upgrade in law enforcement. and ihave upgrade in law enforcement. and i have immediately started the work on that in the home office . work on that in the home office. that includes the recruitment of a new border security commander, the establishment of a new border security command, and also the recruitment of new cross border police, including to work right across europe to tackle this problem at source , tackle this problem at source, prime minister sir keir starmer has met first ministerjohn swinney for the first time since

labour's election win. >> the prime minister is on a uk tour as he tries to reset the relationship between westminster and the devolved nations. the new pm will next visit wales and northern ireland before meeting mayors in england. john swinney welcomes the keir to bute house this evening for one of his first engagements, after being appointed as pm, and sir keir used talks with mr swinney to set the framework within which we can work better for scotland. when asked about scottish independence, sir keir refused to go to detail but said they'll work together . we were of work together. we were of a joint view that we can work constructively together . constructively together. >> i am absolutely clear that dunng >> i am absolutely clear that during the campaign i made a commitment that my labour government would deliver for scotland. that's why i'm back here making good on that commitment that promise and starting the work of change across scotland and took this opportunity to reset relations with the first minister and deputy first minister. and we will take further steps to

ensure that that is bedded in how. >> now. >> and the uk's new defence secretary has pledged to step up the uk's support for ukraine on a visit to the country following a visit to the country following a meeting with president zelenskyy and his defensive counterpart, john healey announced the uk would provide a new package of support , new package of support, including more artillery guns, a quarter of a million ammunition rounds and nearly 100 precision brimstone missiles. the defence secretary also pledged to fast track military support committed for ukraine in april to arrive within the next 100 days and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, it is back to mark for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thanks, tatiana. welcome to mark dolan tonight. should the

tories and reform uk merge before the next election, i'll before the next election, i'll be asking former conservative government minister and now reform uk spokeswoman ann widdecombe , plus tomorrow's widdecombe, plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from my top pundits this evening. we've got the former political editor of lbc, theo usherwood, labour party activist susie stride and broadcaster and campaigner chris wild. what a lovely bunch. a packed hour those papers are coming at 1030 and widdecombe waiting in the wings, fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie before the end of the hour. but first my take of ten. that's an old saying. be careful what you wish for by understandably seeking to punish the conservatives for effective open borders with illegal immigration

through the roof, the british pubuc through the roof, the british public have voted for more reform. uk voters, for example, 4 million of them on thursday, were angry with the tories failure to stop the boats, which, lest we forget , is failure to stop the boats, which, lest we forget, is an economic national security and humanitarian disaster. but in return for their protest vote, they've elected a prime minister in sir keir starmer, who immediately scrapped the rwanda plan before even choosing new wallpaper for his office in number 10. starmer scrapped rwanda in spite of the fact that the irish government said months ago that it was already working, such was its deterrent effect. starmer was even going to get rid of, and i quote the rwanda plan even if it works, make it, make sense. with this deterrent now removed , illegal immigration now removed, illegal immigration over the next five years will go from a temporary crisis to a

permanent one. don't take my word for it as my top pundit tonight, theo usherwood pointed out on twitter this week, kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer for the border force covering calais and dunkirk, is not happy with the new direction. speaking to times radio, he said the new prime minister is being very negative about rwanda. well that's fine, he's bound to be, but we don't have anything from him about how they're going to stop the boats. he goes on. it's going to be open season and i reckon that we're looking at between 50 and 60,000 people coming across the channel this year. there's been a lot of unease, he says. in the camps in northern france about the rwanda scheme. they were very, very worried, he says. and we saw people fleeing to the repubuc we saw people fleeing to the republic of ireland because they didn't want to be included in the rwanda plan . and finally, he the rwanda plan. and finally, he says, now we're seeing that the kurds over in northern france

have come up with a new nickname for sir keir, which i think means the friendly one. that's right. the friendly one, because they all believe he's going to be very good for illegal immigration. now let's hope they are wrong . if sir keir starmer are wrong. if sir keir starmer stop the boats, stop the boats, then i will put my hand up. but i won't hold my breath. now, if you want a more welcoming approach to those making that perilous journey, no problem. but just decide from which departmental budget you're going to pay. the £3 billion annually that it's costing to keep these people accommodated in hotels, a figure which is bound to rise and decide from which departmental budget you're going to fund. the extra welfare payments , long term housing, payments, long term housing, school places and nhs resources. oh, and sit down and have a nice cup of tea with residents of small towns and cities impacted

by migrant hotels and ask them how they feel about it. now. labour has said it will use the savings from rwanda to pay for a new border security command, staffed with hundreds of additional special investigators, intelligence agents and cross border police officers . labour want to track officers. labour want to track down and smash the shady criminal gangs who are located abroad. that's right folks, they are located abroad. but we're going to find them and we're going to find them and we're going to find them and we're going to shut them down. good luck with that. we can't even smash the criminal gangs here. this new border security command sounds like something out of star wars. and it's pie in the sky. it is, in fact, a rebadged , sky. it is, in fact, a rebadged, better resourced version of the plan that we currently have. one which, given the huge numbers already crossing, is clearly not working. the eu have a similar approach and things are even worse on the continent. what was albert einstein's definition of

madness? doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different outcome. well, look forward to five years of that. our new prime minister has said in the past that all laws around controlling immigration have a racist undercurrent. that's right . undercurrent. that's right. having borders and policing them is racist . according to the man is racist. according to the man now in charge of our borders, voters who gave the tories a punishment beating on thursday are in for a shock as the renowned academic and clergyman douglas horton once said whilst seeking revenge, dig two graves, one for your enemy and one for yourself. scrapping rwanda the prime minister's first significant mistake . your significant mistake. your reaction gbnews.com/yoursay. let's get the views of tonight's top pundits, political journalist and commentator theo

usherwood, labour party activist susie stride, and campaigner and author chris wild. chris. yes, a terrible mistake and he's only beenin terrible mistake and he's only been in post for about a day. >> i don't think it's a terrible mistake, mark, at all. no, and i've been very vocal on this throughout, you know, the humanitarian in me does not want to see people sent to rwanda. the focus should be on tighter board border control and obviously as well as, you know, asylum, the process for asylum seekers, you know, and going through their application, it's, you know , for me, it's just been you know, for me, it's just been a mess from day one. but sending people to rwanda is not going to work. it doesn't scare no one off. we just need a tighter system which supports people. and let's not forget these are human beings as well. and the fact that we're just talking about them like they're they're second class citizens doesn't sit well with me at all. that everyone deserves the chance to have a good life. and it's up to us to do that. and of course, labour party. >> chris, i agree with you. that's why we have a legal process by which people can apply process by which people can apply for asylum without entering the country on a rubber

dinghy in the channel, which is a humanitarian , economic and a humanitarian, economic and national security disaster. we don't know who these people are, spending millions of pounds sending them to rwanda . sending them to rwanda. >> what's that going to? >> what's that going to? >> what's that going to? >> what's the idea, chris? it's a disincentive. and the irish government have already said that it's working and it hasn't started yet. >> well , i started yet. >> well, i don't think it is working and it's not even starting. it'sjust working and it's not even starting. it's just wasted a lot of money, which could go into bigger and better things and support these people more. they're human beings , theo they're human beings, theo usherwood keir starmer's first major mistake. >> i mean, this is a guy who said he'll scrap rwanda even if it works. surely a prime minister shouldn't scrap policies that work? >> i just take you to what tony blair said today in an article. he said that migration, the migration crisis was a problem for keir starmer and that keir starmer had to be able to deal to deal with it. given when you look at the finer numbers within that election result and it was a resounding win for labour, let's not take it away from them. but there are some fragility. there is some

fragility. there is some fragility there, particularly around reform eating into and securing quite a large vote share and coming second in labour seats. so i think , you labour seats. so i think, you know, looking ahead to five years and the next election , years and the next election, keir starmer, if there's one crisis that you have to pick out, that keir starmer has to solve, i think it's the migration crisis above all others. the problem, i think, stephanie, i thought it was a great article by tony blair and it made me wish, theo that he was prime minister tonight, not keir starmer politically, tony blair has helped, has helped keir starmer work out what a woman is as well. >> i mean, the guy talks a lot of sense politically. >> yeah. politically this is the one that tony blair has identified and i think it's worth just noting that that's what he said. this is the one that keir starmer has to sort out. the question is how do you do that. and i think what the part of the problem that keir starmer has got is that within his own party and in the on the left of british politics, it's not a settled question. when you say to people, do you need to stop the small boats? i think there's a section of those on

there's a section of those on the left and indeed within keir starmer's own party, that believes actually that, that that you cannot stop the boats, that you cannot stop the boats, that actually we have to be able to take those who are coming, who are making. and it just it's worth mentioning it is a perilous crossing in these dinghies. it is. and it's been run by gangs, you know, criminal gangs. it is, it is a horrific experience and it's very, very dangerous. but there is a there is a view. i think when you look at it from the left that says, actually you can't stop these boats and nor should we stop these boats. and i think keir starmer has a problem with that, because he's going to need to make the argument that these boats have to be stopped for the very reasons i've set out, given how dangerous it is . and also, i how dangerous it is. and also, i think there are communities that are under significant strain when you take into account we're paying when you take into account we're paying six, you know, £3 billion a year to for hotels. and so forth. but the problem that keir starmer has now is that he's taken away. and he was always going to have to do this, given

what had happened before the election. one tool and when you look at what he's replaced it with in terms of this new border command, it's actually a very small, slightly esoteric change that he's brought in where he's going to give the these new investigators and this new border commander counter—terrorism powers. is that going to make a real difference in tracking down the gangs, smashing the gangs and stopping the boats? it's very difficult to see initially how that's going to happen. and if keir starmer doesn't make progress on this mark, i think he's got a real problem electorally and politically heading into the last couple of years of his of this parliament. >> well, i think that's a fair point. susie stride, theo usherwood, there hinting at a cultural problem within the labour party, which is they don't want to stop the boats, >> i think look , keir starmer is >> i think look, keir starmer is a new prime minister of this country , and i think he country, and i think he understands that this is an issue that the british public care about, and i think actually

we have made it clear, i think we've spoken a lot about this. and i think, you know, yvette cooper on day one, you know, saying, actually, we're looking for the right person. that's going to head this up. we are going to head this up. we are going to head this up. we are going to take this seriously . i going to take this seriously. i think it is a complex issue. you know, i volunteer with iranian refugees. these are people that have come over here because they returned to their country. they're going to be hanged , put they're going to be hanged, put in prison, tortured, you know? and so it's that thing of we've always been a kind country and actually there is that place of offering refuge to people that need refuge, but also there are people that are abusing the system and that's not okay. and also ultimately, we've got these criminal gangs that need to be tackled. now, the fact is, is, illegal immigration has gone up under the tories. they are fouled on illegal immigration. they have fouled the country on it. let's get this right. and i think look, let's see what keir starmer yvette cooper are going to do. but if i'm honest with you, i actually think they're going to do the right thing on this. i think they're going to, you know, i don't think they're

just paying lip service to it. i think they're going to do the right thing on it. >> okay, susie, look, i'm going to give the prime minister the benefit of the doubt. as i said in my take at ten, if he stops the boats, i'll put my hand up, what do you think in the last year of this labour government, five years from now, going into the next election, 2029, what do you think the numbers will be crossing the channel? are we looking at a few hundred a year? >> i mean, let's be honest, there's no way that i'm going to be drawn into, like throwing out numbers on these things because ihave numbers on these things because i have no idea. i have no idea what i do think. look, what we do know is numbers have gone up. so the rwanda policy exactly hasn't worked. and actually tackling the criminal gangs, a thousand more, border security people dealing with the actual application processes and making sure that those people are being processed. thank you. and actually, if they're here and they shouldn't be here being sent back, you know, all of that. i mean, that hasn't been happening. people have been in hotels. it's costing an arm. and a leg. thank you. and actually things need to be processed. and if i'm honest, if you have got first hand experience of some of

this and it's a joke, okay. fair enough. >> well, i think we can all agree it's not working. and more power to the prime minister to tackle this major issue, which is a huge problem for the country. like i said, it is a humanitarian economic and an infrastructural and national security crisis coming up, should the tories and reform merge before the next election, i'll be asking former conservative government and now reform uk ann widdecombe

next. on tomorrow's papers. on the way and fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie. but it's time now for the newsmaker. and with 4 million votes in their back pocket, five mps and nigel farage finally, in the house of commons. what's next for reform uk? a deal with the tories and their next leader, or do they seek to replace the conservatives as the main party of the right at the next general

election? let's get the views of former conservative government minister and reform uk supporter ann widdecombe. ann, it's the first time that we've spoken since the election on a scale of 1 to 10, how good would you say was this victory for reform uk ? was this victory for reform uk? >> oh, i think it was at least eight. i mean, they got five seats, but to have got a greater share of the vote than the lib dems, to have come second in nearly 100 seats, yeah. it was a remarkable performance. and we've gone from nought to five seats in parliament. well, we had lee anderson, but he hadn't been elected as an mp, so it was a pretty remarkable performance. >> astonishing, ann, that 4 million votes should lead to just five parliamentary seats. does britain need proportional representation ? representation? >> well, there are two views on this within reform policy making, there's my view and there's everybody else's , and there's everybody else's, and everybody else thinks that there

should be a change to the constitution. i alone defend first past the post on the grounds that, first of all, it allows you to dismiss an unsatisfactory government very comprehensively can't do that with coalitions. they just break up and reform. secondly, it preserves the direct link , which preserves the direct link, which i value greatly between an mp and the constituency, >> i completely agree with you, ann. the issue you've got, if you have proportional representation is the potential for parties of the left to coalesce in perpetuity . coalesce in perpetuity. >> well, exactly. and as i say, it's very hard to dismiss the coalition. you can dismiss the one party government, but you try dismissing a coalition. and he most systems are proportional representation result in coalitions . do we really want to coalitions. do we really want to get like italy. so indeed. >> i mean why isn't nigel farage with the amazing achievement on thursday not salivating at the idea of an overall majority in 2029? do you think that you

could, could you cause them to rethink this policy? because i consider pr to be a huge gamble for the country , for the country, >> well, so do i. but reform policy is that i should make this very clear. reform policy is to, to demand proportional representation and to campaign for it. but i rather share your view that, you know, nigel has talked about forming a government in 2029. well, let's do it. but let's do it as reform now and do reform uk and the conservatives need to have some kind of relationship in the house of commons over the next five years, and if so, how might that manifest itself? well, as far as i'm concerned, if members of the conservative party in the commons want to apply to become members of reform or indeed any of their ex members, i'm sure that we shall be absolutely delighted. but the idea of doing a formal pact with the conservatives after the way they treated us last time when we were the brexit party, i think it will be a long time before we

want to do those sorts of deals again. and also we need to see how things pan out for the conservatives. everybody is talking about the leadership election. everybody is talking about do they go right , left, about do they go right, left, centre? in fact, neither of those is the big question. the big question is can they actually rediscover some discipline and some unity of purpose? can they rediscover that? and that's the big question . question. >> how do you reform uk? avoid a repeat anne of july the 4th. next time taking votes away from the conservatives and therefore potentially guaranteeing a decade of labour in power? >> well, i don't think that's going to happen for one reason. you've already heard you've had a discussion on your programme, that keir starmer has ditched the around a plan and he hasn't actually got anything solid to put in its place. now there is one party and there was only one party in this general election which had a plan a and a plan b for dealing with the small boats. no other party had. when

we see the shambles, that will almost certainly result from keir starmer's policy, then i think people will begin to turn to us and say, well, at least they've got some answers. >> indeed, i mean, an another point of agreement between you and i is that whilst the rwanda plan is expensive and only one particular element of a strategy to stop the boats, it does serve as a disincentive. that was proven by the irish tuc complaining about the rwanda plan and all the migrants heading over to ireland. but nigel farage is on record as saying that he also thinks that the rwanda plan was a flop . the rwanda plan was a flop. >> well, he thinks it was a flop because it didn't happen. i mean, reform's attitude was, you know, if it was going to work, if it was going to happen, fair enough. you know, any disincentive is welcome. but it didn't happen. and our big complaint was that all the time it wasn't happening. there was no plan b, there was nothing to deter people from coming over. all the eggs were in the rwanda basket. and that i think was a

big mistake. and then to call an election, before it even had a chance to take off, it's beyond me. >> and last but not least, will reform uk ever shake off the image that they have of being a racist party? >> yes, we've got five years now in which to build a proper party by which i mean democratising and professionalising. we need to do that now. and candidate selection will be very, very careful indeed. now. it was done in a great hurry last time and actually, considering the hurry, it was done and we didn't have quite as many disasters as we might have done, but candidate selection will be extremely thorough. and i think that we will also make sure, because we do now have five mps in parliament, none of whom are racist, and we shall be hearing from them. and i think gradually the message will get through. no, this party is not about that. >> and have a great week and we'll catch up on sunday. my thanks to former government

minister ann widdecombe, who is now a reform uk spokeswoman. coming up , tomorrow's newspaper, coming up, tomorrow's newspaper, front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. plus, how long is keir starmer's honeymoon going to last? has it already ended? i'll be asking fleet street legend kelvin before the end of the hour, but papers

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show tonight. so jo, thank you for doing a brilliant job and really good luck in the future. okay folks, it's time for this. tomorrow's front pages are in and the guardian surprise surge for left pushes french far right into third place. and rachel reeves promises to fix foundations for growth. the chancellor has pledged to fix the foundations of the british economy, revealing in her first speech as chancellor an immediate plan to boost growth by unblocking infrastructure and private investment. in an address to business leaders, she will declare that economic growth for all parts of the country is a national mission and says she'll take tough decisions to deliver on the new government's mandate. now, what will this involve? a shake up of planning regulations, including on green belt land, as well as new housing targets? talks to end junior doctor strikes a recruitment advert for a new border security commander and a reopening and expansion of the

government's teacher recruitment campaign. daily mail, now 15 of my female friends have walked out on their marriages and every woman will understand why, says inspire magazine. there you go. oh dear. that's bad news for those male partners, isn't it? they probably don't even know where the iron is . where the iron is. >> see, chris? >> see, chris? >> chris looking nervous, just sweating at the word divorce. scary. >> she'll clean you out, laugh rachel reeves i will rip up rules on planning . within days, rules on planning. within days, the chancellor will declare war on britain's planning system tomorrow, vowing to take the difficult decisions needed to boost the economy . we've got the boost the economy. we've got the daily telegraph now labour to bnng daily telegraph now labour to bring back housing targets. prisoners may be free after 40% of their sentence and shock defeat for le pen, as macron's alliance holds on daily express. our challenge to labour in shaping britain's future. the daily express launches its own manifesto to put its readers at

the heart of their job, holding the heart of their job, holding the labour government to account . the labour government to account. they say our ten pledges include the issues that matter most to readers, including protecting uk borders, social care reform and proper investment in our armed forces. social care daily mirror now government gets to work. chancellor i'll make every brit better off rachel reeves vow as she exposes tories £58 billion lost tax. take i newspaper labour heading for new brexit clash with the eu on extra migrants. labour is facing its first clash with brussels after the eu signalled it wants easier migration for young people aged 18 to 30 to come to the uk and study, live and work . also, the study, live and work. also, the metro . come on england, please metro. come on england, please don't put us through all of that again, is the headline. of course, following the penalty shootout in which england were victorious and crowds of mourners line the streets, a hero's send—off, hundreds of

people lined the streets to say a final goodbye to rugby league legend and motor neurone disease campaigner rob burrow. legend and motor neurone disease campaigner rob burrow . and last campaigner rob burrow. and last but not least , the daily star but not least, the daily star three. 33 c holiday meltdown . three. 33 c holiday meltdown. drinkable. sprinkle. winkle buffs warn sunseekers to stay off ice cold beers by the pool or flop blokes are being warned to lay off the holiday beer to stop their winkles shrinking. oh dean stop their winkles shrinking. oh dear. and the weather is set to reach 33 c. a pint of your best cola, please , landlord. those cola, please, landlord. those are your front pages. let me tell you that my pundits don't need anything to get them going. i'm delighted to have with me tonight reacting to the big stories of the day, political journalist and commentator theo usherwood, labour party activist susie stride, and campaigner and author chris wilde. well, lots to get going at, susie, let me talk to you about this story in

the mail newspaper. rachel reeves the chancellor. i will rip up rules on planning within days. it seems that the policy is to build baby build. >> yeah. i mean, look, we've got a housing crisis in this country. we need to build houses , country. we need to build houses, and rachel reeves is absolutely right on this. this is exactly what we need to be doing. and we've got all these problems, bottlenecks, because we can't get building houses through local planning committees. my small concern on this is this is a complex issue. so, for example, where i live on the isle of dogs and we have westferry printworks, which has been all in the news because of richard desmond and jenrick and the cash for, you know, bribes and all that kind of stuff, and actually we're talking about one of the most overdeveloped areas in the country, one of the most densely populated areas in the country. and they're trying to push through this 14,000 unit development. and i would be concerned if we weren't, what's the word intelligent about how we apply this? does that make sense? yeah. >> and holistic i suppose. >> and holistic i suppose. >> yeah. yeah. for example, in an area like that , actually, we

an area like that, actually, we don't need to just steamroll through, and like bill over build and over develop and actually the quality of life of people, this area is the least nimby area you're going to get. this is the area which has had, you know, the fastest development and house building in the whole of europe in the last 20 to 30 years. and i sometimes get a little bit like, well, why are we trying to meet the housing need of london in a very small area on the isle of dogs?i very small area on the isle of dogs? i think that's wrong. and residents that live there aren't nimbys. they've welcomed the development. but when it gets to that point and so i really hope that, you know, the, the, the planning committee there, which is overseen by mayor lutfur rahman, will push back on that because it's wrong for local residents. so i'm for this. and across the country, we need to be doing this. we need to be building building houses. but i'm just hoping that we have intelligence in how we approach this. it's got to be done smart, because obviously things like the traffic for residents. >> exactly, a queue at the bus stop, like a mile long sunlight, all these things that impact upon, you know, children's mental health and all these

things. >> and i'm just like, you know, keir starmer said, hasn't he the best people to make decisions? are local people, local elected people. and so i just think you can't just take one idea and like smash it across the country. so i'm hoping for areas like the isle of dogs , which has like the isle of dogs, which has seen, you know, record amount of development that they don't just push through developments like this. it's got to go evenly through the country. >> i think that's fair. and theo building more houses, that's an easy win for this labour government. if they can crack this that will be greatly appreciated by the country, won't it? >> yes. and we're looking from the stories in the front pages of tomorrow's papers with this speech in the treasury from rachel reeves, where she's going to be addressing business leaders. is she wants these changes to be brought in, or at least formulated by the summer recess. and that's looking to end probably at the end of this month. so they are moving very quickly, and it feeds into this whole narrative we heard throughout the election that labouris throughout the election that labour is trying to secure economic growth. it doesn't have a huge amount of money to spend because of the fiscal rules that it set itself. it doesn't it

can't borrow more money because again, it's set itself a very strict, mandate in terms of how much it will borrow. and the bond markets won't have it anyway. the bond markets won't have it anyway. and interest rates are still relatively high. so rachel reeves and keir starmer need to find other ways of getting economic growth. and the way they're looking to do this is to make it easier for developers to build properties. of course, there is a question about infrastructure. you're going to have the doctor's surgeries, you're going to the schools, you're going to have the roads to make sure that actually these homes are connected to areas where people want to work. and actually you're improving people's quality of life. and if they don't manage to do that and they simply ram through these changes, then it is going to be there are going they are going to face opposition. their own mps are going to face opposition. you will notice, of course, ed davey used very careful language. the liberal democrat leader during the campaign, when he said he wanted development to be community led. so there'll be opposition there. i mean , again, the tory party is i mean, again, the tory party is in a fair state of flux at the

moment, but they may be able to rally round around one issue that they agree with in opposing some of this. but nevertheless it's going to go through. he's got keir starmer and rachel reeves have got a huge majority, and i don't want to bang the immigration drum too much because it's wrong to characterise immigration as the source of all the country's problems, >> sir malcolm rifkind earlier said that actually, you know, to a great extent, migration is a benefit to the country. of course it is. it's linked to economic growth and the skills that we need. but it is obviously the scale that we've seen in the last couple of years . seen in the last couple of years. theo, is it not important if you're having a conversation about house building to look at the numbers coming into the country every year as well? >> well, i think i think just to separate that out , you've separate that out, you've firstly got illegal migration. we've talked earlier in the programme about small boat crossings and then of course there is legal migration. i think if you look at the last couple of years in particular, we've had two. the conservative government had two particular schemes with ukraine that led to 247,000 people coming to this country seeking shelter from russia , and then, of course,

russia, and then, of course, hong kong as well. so there are a particular pockets there. but keir starmer and rachel reeves are very wary of, of what we've talked about previously. and of course, pressure on particular communities. but i think they're taking on here the quote unquote, the nimbys, people who are particularly worried about greenbelt and whether actually, i think what's going to be quite interesting to see is that they ram this through. they get it through, and then you end up with local labour mps facing significant opposition from constituents, have just voted them in, saying, hang on a moment. we didn't vote for this in our community. and actually keir starmer coming under and rachel reeves coming under quite a lot of pressure from labour mps who suddenly have a whole a number of angry constituents and campaigners in their, in their constituents, who are furious that they now have so many more homes and their communities are under pressure when it comes to resources and amenities available. >> well, that's right. we know that rishi sunak diluted the

conservatives ambitious housebuilding plans because of pressure from a few of his mps in the shires and on the green belt. but the country needs more houses. >> chris wild and you're right, that's my job. what i do in the community is the ramifications of that is that we've got families, children living in trouble, lodgers . yeah, they're trouble, lodgers. yeah, they're living in temporary accommodation. and i and i know from my work, especially around edmonton enfield area, but you've got queues of families in the library every day who've been made homeless, who are looking for desperately looking for accommodation, waiting there all day, children who should be in school all day, mark in the library, waiting to be housed. >> there's no homes for their own bedroom. >> they haven't got their own bedroom, mark. and it's absolutely it's a catastrophe. and even if they, they do find somewhere to live, they send miles and miles out of everything they've ever known. you know, it's not just about the houses we need to find safe accommodation for young people, families around areas where they can be close to loved ones. and it needs to be quick. and i don't see this happening any time soon. we've got a housing crisis. we've got people on the

streets, we've got more landlords who are giving sections 21. they're selling properties because they can't afford to keep them, forcing more people onto the streets. we can't house these people. >> there you go. the message is clear to the prime minister build, baby, build. but as my brilliant colleague susie strider says, you've got to do it in a smart way. okay, folks, lots more to come . how long is lots more to come. how long is sir keir starmer's honeymoon penod sir keir starmer's honeymoon period going to last? is it already over? i'll be asking fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie next. plus more front pages. see you in

labour plan to build baby. build the target is 1.5 million houses in the next five years. this from paul on the message board. gbnews.com/yoursay here we go. labour ripping up planning rules within days . and why is there

within days. and why is there a shortage of housing? migrants are moving in because they have priority , quick word on priority, quick word on proportional representation from michaela who says hi mark with proportional representation , proportional representation, every vote counts in the first past the post system, only the winners votes count. this proves pr is the most democratic system where every vote counts. thank you for that , michaela. and last you for that, michaela. and last but not least, on the labour government's new plans for housebuilding, paul says mark, we can't build enough houses for our own. but your panellist chris thinks that we should welcome all the legal and illegal migrants. what planet is he on, for god's sake? well, look , it's all about opinions. look, it's all about opinions. mark dolan tonight. the home of diverse opinion. keep yours coming . gbnews.com/yoursay and coming. gbnews.com/yoursay and alister, i think you've got another newspaper for me, haven't you ? we've got the times haven't you? we've got the times hard left leader claims victory in the french elections and homes on green belt in new dash for growth. the chancellor will deliver her first speech in the treasury tomorrow, saying

there's no time to waste as labour seeks to improve living standards and boost growth with a housebuilding revolution. also, millions to work from the beach this summer. holidays used to be about sun, sea, sand and sangria, but many brits appear to be adding spreadsheets to the mix more than 6 million staff plan to work from the beach as growing numbers of people take advantage of flexible working practices. research has found that a third of workers are employed at companies with work from anywhere policies, allowing them to log on from overseas for at least some of the year. nice work if you can get it, but it's time now for the last word. and here's a simple question. he's been prime minister since friday, but how long will sir keir starmer's honeymoon last? well, somebody that's reported on many . a prime minister, on many. a prime minister, former editor of the sun newspaper and the founder of talksport radio, kelvin mackenzie. kelvin, good to see you. how long do you think this bounce will last for keir

starmer? will he still be in the honeymoon period going into september, october? >> no, i very much doubt whether be in the honeymoon period going in towards the end of july. i mean , we are in a social media mean, we are in a social media world. it's social media that actually drives most of the agendas now and already. i know from my own twitter following that they're all piling in and the truth about the matter is he has to develop some growth policies. god knows where they're going. because remember, they're going. because remember, the whole of europe is beset by the whole of europe is beset by the same problem. and the problem is we've got trade unions, we've got laws where basically an idle groupage western europe now and the whole of asia is eating our lunch. honestly if we want to have growth, we've got to adopt an american approach to employment and an american approach to holidays and the number of hours worked. if we're not prepared to do that, then forget it. so there's no chance of them having this growth. i mean, just building flats is not going to

be an answer. and the and the point that that lady raised at one of your guests about east london, that's all already already packed and she doesn't want any more because she doesn't think it's fair. fair that's what's going to happen all over the country. there will be arguments galore about whether actual planning restrictions actually work for the people in the area, and that's going to be the problem. it will be the same . it will be it will be the same. it will be the same issue as we face right now . we're a small country with now. we're a small country with a load of people in there, a lot of them actually unable for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me. and i could be quite closed eyed about, how they end up looking for housing, most of them are si king section 20 ones. when they when, when landlords want to sell their places so that the council are forced to then house you and there aren't enough housing. so there's a lot of crooking the system right now. so anyway, going back to your original point , going back to your original point, absolutely no chance of

any politician of any nature and especially one who actually, if you take into account those people who didn't vote overall, only about 20% voted voted socialist anyway. and the reason those 20% voted socialist is because they can't correctly they couldn't stand the conservatives. there's no appetite for starmer. starmer will do what all politicians face. there will be a problem come over the horizon when his solution solution is put forward. everybody will go yabu and suddenly he was already —19 points. anyway as the when he went into, the election. so i, i you know, i wish i, i'm not sure whether i do wish him well actually on reflection. but anyway . anyway, i don't believe anyway. anyway, i don't believe that he will be, he will be very popular and he knows that. >> he knows he knows that. well, you're right. and i think actually, the day he became prime minister, he had a negative poll rating of —18, which is quite extraordinary and

unprecedented. 3 million fewer votes on thursday than achieved by jeremy corbyn in 2017. kelvin, stay with me . let's kelvin, stay with me. let's bnngin kelvin, stay with me. let's bring in our pundits if we can. chris wild, we've also got theo usherwood and susie stride, let's talk about keir starmer. how long do you think the honeymoon period will last, briefly, if you can, theo, i would agree with kelvin. >> i think he's going to be very short, keir starmer is has a really difficult in—tray and problems to solve. and i think that the electorate, if you look at the vote share , has not at the vote share, has not overwhelmingly given him the same mandate as, say , tony blair same mandate as, say, tony blair got back in 1997, his approval ratings are fairly low already and i think keir starmer, he needs time in order to turn to turn the ship around. and time is one thing in terms of voters that he voters approval. he doesn't have the only thing that is, of course, going in his favour is it's five years until the next election. so if he can make some progress in years

three, four and five, then then he stands a chance that the next election. but there is a gamble there. and he needs to do that because otherwise i have a feeling that other parties, including reform, are going to be snapping at his heels. >> susie strides keir starmer becomes prime minister with a negative poll rating of minus 18, so perhaps his honeymoon penod 18, so perhaps his honeymoon period is yet to come. >> i mean, this is what i'm going to say when we say extraordinary. what's extraordinary. what's extraordinary is we've won just this massive mandate across the country, and yet there are people clearly that want to take him down a peg. whatever the fact is, is across this country. i mean, we won thurrock by 16,000 majority. that's incredible. we won harlow, you know , across this country people know, across this country people have said sick to death of the tories, whether it is youth clubs , libraries closing, clubs, libraries closing, children, not getting the education they deserve, people not being able to get their foot on the housing market, we can do better as a country. we know this . hence better as a country. we know this. hence why better as a country. we know this . hence why we've said

this. hence why we've said goodbye to the tories now. yes, keir starmer absolutely has got a massive job on his hands going forward. it's not just him, he's got a great team, he's got rachel reeves, he's got wes streeting, he's got others, but you know what i say to optimism and hope? and so i think , you and hope? and so i think, you know, i think watch this space kelvin. kelvin. >> only a couple of seconds, there are a few things in his favour. keir starmer, inflation has come down to target 2. so that means interest rates will come down in the summer. legal net migration is going to come down because of rishi sunaks changes to the rules. there so he might benefit. >> yeah, he might benefit. i actually they're good things. i want to be fascinated. the moment the nigel farage stands up and says, prime minister, explain to me how your immigration policy is going. 783 arrived at dover today. what have you done about it ? have you done about it? >> there you go, kelvin. as always, you got it in a headline. we'll catch you soon. thanks to my brilliant pundits.

headliners. is next. i'll see you friday at eight. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. good evening to you. this is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. if you did get caught out in the shower earlier on today, i hope you've managed to dry off. things are now settling down as we head throughout the rest of this evening and overnight. actually largely dry for many of us. clear skies across a good chunk of the uk, a few mist and fog patches possible, but really , patches possible, but really, underneath those starry skies, temperatures will be plummeting down a touch nine 11 c for most of our towns and cities. but rural spots maybe as low as 3 to 5 c, which is quite chilly for the start of july. but it does mean that to start off the new working week, there will be a decent amount of sunshine for many of us. a touch cloudier for the far north of scotland, though, particularly for the outer hebrides up towards the northern isles. a bit of cloud and patchy rain and drizzle

around. but for inland areas of scotland, northern ireland and northern england, quite a decent start. off to monday we will see some showers developing later on in the morning and towards the afternoon, though further south though it's our attention is on this band of rain that slowly pushing its way in from the south—west, providing light rain and drizzle for south west england and eventually southwest wales. central areas during the day and the afternoon. but it is going to turn increasingly cloudy, gloomy underneath all of that, some quite brisk winds developing as well around the south—west peninsula. 30 to 35 mile an hour gusts feeling quite chilly and cool underneath that persistent cloud temperatures not rising much higher than 15 to 17 c, but further north, where you do have that sunshine 1920 one degrees celsius. so a feeling, a touch somewhat summery, but make the most of it because that area of low pressure is going to start moving its way northwards. so it will turn more widely unsettled on tuesday and wednesday. as we see this band of rain steadily pushing its way northward. some heavy pulses in there, maybe even some rumbles of thunder developing around at times and

actually feeling a lot more humid as well as we start feeling in some air from southern districts. it's the far north of scotland that will say the driest on tuesday, but for all of us it should hopefully turn a bit drier from thursday onwards. by looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb

>> good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. the home secretary has set out the first steps towards setting up a uk border security command, which the government hopes will reduce small boat crossings in the engush small boat crossings in the english channel. work to recruit an exceptional leader will begin tomorrow with the government preparing a bill to create counter—terror powers aimed at tackling organised immigration crime. the home office says the command leader is expected to be

appointed within weeks and would draw together work of intelligence agencies, police, immigration enforcement and border force. yvette cooper says a major upgrade in law enforcement is needed to stop the boats . the boats. >> no one should be making these dangerous boat crossings. this is undermining our border security as well as having lives being put at risk. but that's why we have to have a major upgrade in law enforcement. and ihave upgrade in law enforcement. and i have immediately started the work on that in the home office . work on that in the home office. that includes the recruitment of a new border security commander, the establishment of a new border security command, and also the recruitment of new cross border police, including to work right across europe to tackle this problem at source , tackle this problem at source, prime minister sir keir starmer has met first ministerjohn swinney for the first time since labour's election win. >> the prime minister is on a uk tour as he tries to reset the relationship between westminster and the devolved nations. the new pm will next visit wales and northern ireland before meeting mayors in england. john swinney

welcomes the keir to