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of the latest, and we'll all of the latest, and we'll have an exclusive chat from the man himself, nigel farage. we spoke to him earlier about what he does next and the future of the conservative party . the conservative party. and we'll also be joined by england legend and a hero of mine, peter shilton, to talk about wednesday's euro semi—final with netherlands. get in touch with your thoughts on tonight's topics by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. but first, here's the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that downing street has admitted this summer will be challenging for the new labour government as the first boatful of migrants since the general election crossed the english channel. this morning, a group of around 64 illegal migrants
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was intercepted by a border force vessel and taken to a migrant processing centre in dover harbour, and this afternoon another boat also attempted the same crossing from france. it brings the total number of migrants crossing so far this year to more than 13, and a half thousand. that's up 12% on the same time last year. and it comes after sir keir starmer announced the rwanda scheme is dead and buried, claiming he's not prepared to continue with gimmick politics. meanwhile, the prime minister has concluded a whistlestop tour of the uk to reset westminster's relationship with the devolved nafions. relationship with the devolved nations . sir relationship with the devolved nations. sir keir met political leaders at stormont as part of his first official visit to northern ireland since taking up office. he was accompanied by his new northern ireland secretary, hilary benn, the prime minister was in scotland at the weekend and after northern ireland went on to wales, where he met with the first minister, vaughan gething, at the senedd amid concerns
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about the tata steelworks in port talbot, where thousands of people are facing redundancy. meanwhile, the new chancellor was busy outlining her plans to get britain building again this morning as she announced there's no time to waste in boosting economic growth . growth. rachel economic growth. growth. rachel reeves said she's making it her national mission. it was her first major speech as chancellor, and she promised major changes to speed up infrastructure projects and unlock private investment. >> well, the number one mission of this incoming labour government is to grow the economy and to grow the economy. we need to get britain building the status quo of always saying no to new development just isn't going to stand anymore. because if we continue like this , we if we continue like this, we will see living standards continue to decline. fewer and fewer people being able to get on the housing ladder, and we won't be generating the money that we need for our public services. we sought a mandate at the election to grow the economy, and we're determined to do just that. >> and there's uncertainty in
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france, where the french president, emmanuel macron , has president, emmanuel macron, has asked his prime minister, gabriel attal, to stay in office for now, as the political deadlock in the country continues. it comes after the left wing alliance with his party has become the biggest force now in the french parliament, after tactical voting held back the expected victory of the right wing marine le pen's national rally, the right wing populist party came in third, despite expectations it would top the poll, and protesters have been venting their feelings. protesters have been venting theirfeelings. in protesters have been venting their feelings. in the centre of paris, there have been riots after the results were announced and the shape of the future government is still uncertain. after no particular group won an absolute majority. the country's outgoing finance minister, bruno le maire, has gone further. he's now warned the most immediate risk is a financial crisis and france's economic decline . those france's economic decline. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly
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middlehurst and i'm back in an houn middlehurst and i'm back in an hour. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone. sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> a very good evening to you. i'm martin daubney. this is gbn tonight. well, it's the first full week of a new era of labour in government, and already they're rattling some cages. there are reports they are considering plans to release offenders from jail after serving just 40% of their sentence, as it bids to tackle overcrowding in our prisons. the rwanda scheme, of course, has already been scrapped on day one, and the first migrants have made the journey across the channel from france to the uk. as you can see from our pictures now, seems they didn't get the memo about the new policy from the labour party. it comes, of
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course , as the new home course, as the new home secretary, yvette cooper, launched a new border security command to replace the conservatives rwanda scheme. and in a move that will surely infuriate the viewers of this show, our new prime minister, sir keir starmer, has vowed to obtain closer ties. you've guessed it to the european union. take a listen to what he had to say earlier on today. >> well, right to say that we want to improve relations with the eu, we think we can get a better deal than the botched deal that boris johnson brought home. and we will work on that. understanding the work that needs to be done and the nature of the challenge. but yes, we do want to improve that relationship. in the meantime, we do have to get on with implementing the important changes that are necessary under the existing arrangements that we've got, because we are not going to be able to get a better relationship unless we demonstrate a commitment to the relationship and the agreements that have already been put in place. >> well, it's the first monday
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of a new labour government, a new dawn, and already the red rose is between the teeth in the direction of brussels. who would have thought it.7 well, judith raanan. the studio is gb news political editor , christopher political editor, christopher hope, and the former labour adviser stella sandy sidhu. welcome to the show. the both of you. let's start with a sense of crushing inevitability. if you're a sceptic, you may well say that sir keir starmer, lest we forget , campaigned against we forget, campaigned against brexit. he campaigned to cancel brexit. he campaigned to cancel brexit for three years, resolutely said we will not rejoin the european union. and yet chris hope many will see today's overtures towards brussels as very, very predictable. >> he still saying we're not going to join the european union. they are saying in terms we won't join the institutions, the customs union and single market. there won't be any freedom of movement of people coming here that hasn't changed. what has changed is they're trying to get a better brexit deal trying to get a better brexit deal, because this cooperation agreement is up for negotiation and they wants to get a better deal and they wants to get a better deal. he wants to work with the french. he's made very clear. he
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wants to wants to improve our relationship with the eu. and that means closer trading with with the eu, you know, david lammy , they're all they're all lammy, they're all they're all remain. martin, i know you used to be in a brexit party and you know, this is sets your blood boiling. this stuff. but maybe a better deal is what we should do.the better deal is what we should do. the fundamentals of brexit are not going to change according to the government. >> according to the government. stella again, forgive me. forgive me for being a grizzled sinner. but no, i went to brussels to make sure that they listened to the 17.4 million. i always said i thought that the conservative government left the cat flap and screwed to brussels. and on day one, sir keir starmer and david lammy were trying to scurry through. >> hey, look, i get it, labour is in government. you don't want anything to be undone about brexit. but keir starmer said that as long as he's alive, he doesn't think that the uk is going to rejoin the eu. so unless you know something that i don't know, let's say some plot to take him out, then i don't think we are rejoining the eu. i
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don't think there is any referendum or any appetite for any referendum in the party. i think that what he's saying is right. we know that the border border crossings, the boat crossings is a very massive big thing. and we know that one of the main things that the labour party says we need to do to deal with the boat crossings is we need to have better cooperation with the eu so that they, they actually help us rather than hinder us. so this is what he means. and also in terms of business, i'm sure, and in terms of trade, i'm sure you too want to see the british economy being helped by a relationship with the eu rather than hindered right.7 >> imports and exports. the european union have increased since brexit. you could argue we've already made the economic case, but here's what sticks in my craw. and that is david lammy, the new foreign secretary, who compared the european research group to nazis, is now on a charm offensive to sweden , germany and offensive to sweden, germany and poland. you know, in the name of great britain, a lot of people will be watching this show and saying, hang on a minute, we might not rejoin. are we doing something worse .7 death by
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something worse? death by a thousand treaties? >> no, i mean, that was a spicy comment, but we are gb news. we are okay with a bit of politically incorrect , aren't politically incorrect, aren't we? so he was just trying to put his i'm not i don't know what he was referring to. >> don't you worry. we'll we'll turn into rule takers, not rule makers. that's what's happening here. we'll become like norway on sea. well, we'll be stuck with receiving, diktats on standards in all sorts of areas that we can't shape because we're not in a european union. that's what they might risk doing here. >> gosh, i wish we had norway's growth. they're not doing bad, are they? don't you wish we had their energy security, their cost of living? >> they don't make the rules. they have to obey them from the eu. >> that's what they are doing so much better than us. look, i would exchange that if, if it was that simple, i would totally exchange that. but i'm not sure it is. >> the thing about this tickling the deal, this kind of tickling the deal, this kind of tickling the salmon, so to speak, they called it botched . not good called it botched. not good enough. but brussels has been resolutely clear they don't want to improve the deal. they said the deal is the deal. brexit
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means brexit. this is the deal that we want. michel barnier has said all along if you want to tinker with the deal, you have to accept open borders. >> exactly. and that's exactly the point. michel barnier are no longer part of it. he negotiated the deal, didn't he, against david davis and theresa may and oliver robbins and all the other other crap from the past. but exactly right. and the concern is going to be that to do a deal on small boats, we agree to take certain numbers of asylum seekers arriving in the eu and then becomes a kind of they are here. here forever. i mean, today the government has axed and got the rwanda plan. the idea of any attempt to stop them coming, to put them off and coming, to put them off and coming has gone away. we've now got plans from the yvette coopen got plans from the yvette cooper, the home secretary, to hire this new border security commander, rather similar to the existing senior military person already doing that kind of job. so how the idea is they can get a better deal on the migrants arriving here because they have arriving here because they have a better arrangement with the eu countries. but what do they want back? >> that's the big question. and look, it's only the first monday
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morning. we can't expect too much border security command launch with much trumpet, but it seems that people smugglers didn't get the memo. two boats rolled in and the weather wasn't exactly a corker today, everyone ispoken exactly a corker today, everyone i spoken to throughout today so far said he thinks that the boats are just going to keep coming and coming and coming, particularly now, rwanda. even though we can all agree it maybe was a floor plan at least it was a deterrent. >> hum, i don't know whether it was a deterrent. there was an actual evidence apart from some very anecdotal evidence that some news outlets reported on. there was an evidence that this was a deterrent that was actually going to work. but if i go back to the eu, you said that they're going to ask for open borders. borders. i have a question. would you accept them if they came back and they said something like, we want you to accept you. we want you to give visas to young people from the eu to be able to stay for a few years and then come back. would you accept that? would that be acceptable? no, no. you wouldn't. you couldn't because we because we did those deals when we did the brexit deal. >> that's precisely the car
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that's on the cards that are very ideal i notice. but the point is, when we start doing these piecemeal bit by bit deals, in the end you have an erosion of the central tenets of brexit. >> i mean, yeah, but it's the same with any with any trade deal same with any with any trade deal. like if you did a trade, a trade deal with india, why do you think that the trade deal with india has, has been stalling for such a long time? >> because india wouldn't say in return for a trade deal you must have open doors with india, although you still might say we've already got one. >> do you not think that this the same will happen with trade deals with most countries? really they will want something in return. you can't just have a trade deal with a country where they say here, come and sell your stuff. we will not put any taxes up for them. do whatever you want and we want nothing in return. >> but we have trade deals with the european union now. but it doesn't mean that we have to take freedom of movement. that's the point. >> but why is the growth going to come from? >> but we're already importing and exporting. >> so european union since brexit we're fine. our growth is fine. our economy is fine. we don't need any more. >> yes, we're outperforming the
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g7, outperforming germany. >> i think we're outperforming i share that rachel reeves overnight. my god she works hard overnight. my god she works hard overnight. she has commissioned the treasury to come up with a report where they are finding that. because if, if, if the growth rate of the uk over the last few years of the conservative government was the same as comparable g7 economies, there would have been 180 billion more in the british economy. isn't that insane? >> well, there's 500 billion went out because of lockdowns, which the labour party wanted harder sooner and longer. >> i think the labour party was not in government. >> i certainly was not in favour of a lockdown, let me tell you. >> but we had no opposition. >> but we had no opposition. >> we had no opposition at in our darkest hours. economically, the labour party nodded along like like nodding dogs with lockdowns and never said no to any of it. chris hope yes on covid, definitely there was a question now, of course, patrick vallance, one of the guys behind all those lockdowns, is now back in the government as a science and technology minister. >> yeah, i mean, i think i think there was a lot we spent a lot of money in the past five years. that kind of blew the tory party off of its off its axis. but
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they didn't do what they said they'd do. they didn't cut the cut migration like they said they would do. they didn't they. they increased taxes when they said they wouldn't do that. i should say, by the way, while we be on air just now, there's been big news in the tory party. richard holden, the party chairman, has resigned. david cameron, along with the foreign secretary, andrew mitchell, is doing that job and some of the movements, i mean, no one cares. now the party is out of office for five years. but there are they are trying to reshape themselves into some form of opposition to this government, rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. it's already two, two fathoms down. martin heading, heading to the floor to be broken up at the moment. >> and the iceberg, of course, was the general election quickly a shadow cabinet? what do you make, of the appointments so far i've had a bit of a dig. >> oh, the cabinet. shadow cabinet, the shadow cabinet at, obviously david lammy yvette cooper by jo. >> she's got her work cut out for her and rachel reeves. she knows truly now that the cupboard is completely bare. >> yeah. and she's got to find growth. so the big thing for labouris growth. so the big thing for labour is growth. and that's why her speech today and the treasury to economics correspondence was all about deaung correspondence was all about dealing with the planning
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reforms. this national planning policy framework, by publishing a new version of that with the economic mandate back into that. so if you've got a you can't really say no to something if it will fuel economic growth more onshore wind farms, there's no question they are just driving growth . there's all sorts of growth. there's all sorts of battles will take place over this summer about unpopular developments. communities will say, what's this about ? i voted say, what's this about? i voted laboun say, what's this about? i voted labour, but now they're going to do loads of new houses where i live and will they be appropriate for the where we live and do? is there a correct number of people who can build these homes? lots of battles taking place. i think other things in the reshuffle, the veterans minister has been demoted to a non. well, i'm not sure there is one now, but the veterans role has now been taken over by john healey. he's a defence secretary, sits in cabinet. that may not be so good for veterans. the feeling of having a veterans minister under johnny mercer was having in a cabinet office away from the mod , cabinet office away from the mod, so you could fight for veterans rights against the mod giving all that job to the to the defence secretary. may not help veterans in the long term.
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>> stella, what do you think we're going to see in terms of this amazing sort of sunlit uplands vision? 2010 liam byrne left the note for david cameron, saying there's no more left. we really have got no money left now. the national debt is treble what it was then the labour party, they've really, really got their work cut out for them. >> the government really doesn't work like a household though. it's not like you can. it's there is no money left, sir. but this is not how it works. there is always productivity that that you can squeeze out. and i think that we already see that with the new onshore plans they have just they have just, lifted the ban on onshore on onshore wind buildings . and they've done that buildings. and they've done that without having to ask for any consultation, any strategies , consultation, any strategies, without, you know, spending a week's briefing to the press about it. they just took a decision. it wasn't a manifesto. it was. yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't. >> it was voted on. so they've doneit >> it was voted on. so they've done it that way. i mean, there's no vote in parliament, but it wasn't in the manifesto. >> sure. but you have to admire
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the fact that they just went ahead and did it. can you imagine a conservative prime minister doing that? can you imagine conservative mps where there will be a wind turbine brought into their constituency? can you imagine? >> would you live next door to one? >> yes, i would, you wouldn't mind it. >> this massive tube in london thing next to your house. >> i live in london. i live close to all sorts of things. >> you've got a lot of views. live in the countryside and they don't want to see windfarms for to pay less for my energy every month. >> yes, i would live next one. >> yes, i would live next one. >> okay, stella. >> okay, stella. >> chris, you have to call time on the hot air. sorry. the debate on the turbines. they're superb, sir. thank you very much. now, also with me is mike goldsworthy, chair of the european movement uk. mike, welcome to the show. so day one monday morning of a new government david lammy. he's got the red rose between his teeth on a charm offensive around sweden, germany, poland and overtures over the irish sea from dublin. do you think this is day one of the long march to rejoin , rejoin, >> i very much hope so. i don't
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know if it is, but that's certainly what we ultimately want to see at european movement uk. we think brexit's been a disaster. it's not good for the economy, it's not good for our businesses, our citizens, our citizens rights. or, our culture. and so, i mean, wherever this government ends up, the steps that they're taking now, i think people can universally agree that they're sensible and they don't impinge on any big constitutional questions. but yeah , there are questions. but yeah, there are many of us in this country, who think that brexit took us into a geopolitically untenable position and we'd really rather get back with the team. >> so , mike, i can see a glint >> so, mike, i can see a glint in your eye there. you must be, excited about the prospect of a sir keir starmer government. they say superficially, they say on, on the on the surface there
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are no plans to rejoin the european union. but i think many people watching this show, many people watching this show, many people believe that that's not the case. and if we don't have a second referendum, at least not within the next ten years, we might have something else altogether more sinister death by a thousand treaties. >> right. >> right. >> so i don't think that is actually their plans. i think that they came into government a lot more quickly than they were anticipating. they didn't think at the end of 2022, to re, sorry, liz truss would give them that ming vase of a massive poll lead and so they just said, right, we've got to carry this across the ice rink. we are not changing policy here. and also, i don't think they've had the bandwidth to do all of the policies that they would want in this space. and i've heard this from various angles. so i mean, the most important thing for them immediately is to try and
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calm things down, make everything stable , and try and everything stable, and try and get some growth where they can without doing anything too big and intrusive. but clearly as they, as they go on and businesses are going to be saying we want to tear up as much, as much red tape as we can, there will be the younger demographics that do want erasmus plus back or youth mobility schemes, or at least mobility schemes, or at least mobility schemes, or at least mobility schemes for those people working in europe in the arts or music. so i think that labour doesn't have plans to break its red lines. however, there will be huge pressures on those red lines from the population at large . population at large. >> okay, i think that's a yes , i >> okay, i think that's a yes, i think that so. >> so what specifically is it? use i don't think this government has plans to break
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its red lines. however i do think that demands to break those red lines will come on them from business community, from the citizenry at large, from the citizenry at large, from various different campaigning groups that basically want to open up freedom of travel again , open up freedom of travel again, open up freedom of travel again, open up free trade again, freedom of movement again, open borders. >> is that a price you'd be prepared to say? michel barnier said if you want a better deal with the european union, you have to have open borders. is that worth price worth paying? >> he said. he said free movement. see we don't have open borders because we're not in schengen, so all of our borders. you have to show your passport at. >> so free movement of people michel barnier said would be a price that britain would have to pay- price that britain would have to pay. do you think that's a price worth paying? >> oh yeah. i mean i actively want free movement because it did us so much good. look, look , did us so much good. look, look, for example, at what happened when we took away free movement .
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when we took away free movement. we had the immigration go up, but it was from india and nigeria. and what, what what rights do we have to go and live and work in india? nigeria? maybe we want many, many. >> mike goldsworthy would agree. the conservatives made a pig's ear of that. i'm afraid, mike, we have to deal with that. we simply ran out of time. i have to close the borders on this conversation. mike galsworthy, chair of the european movement uk, thank you very much. now still to come as the government considers releasing inmates early to stop prison overcrowding, we'll be asking is labour going soft on crime ? and labour going soft on crime? and of course we'll have nigel farage you in a
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welcome back to tbn. tonight with me . martin daubney. now with me. martin daubney. now with me. martin daubney. now with just 700 spaces left across the country, britain's prisons are at breaking point. according to new reports, the new labour government is considering releasing prisoners early to reduce pressure on resources, in
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some cases among inmates, to leave after serving just 40% of their sentences, and the appointment of shoe repair boss james timpson as prisons minister has already raised some eyebrows. if you're wondering why, just take a look at this. we have 85,000 people in prison. >> it's going to go up to 100,000 pretty soon. a third of them should definitely be there. there's another third in the middle, which probably shouldn't be there, but they need some other kind of state support. a lot of them have got mental, massive mental health issues. they've been in prison in and out of prison all their lives. and then there's another third and there's a large proportion of women should prisoners is a disaster for them because it's just putting them back in the offending cycle. >> well, that sounds very much to me like going soft on law and order. but joining me now to discuss this is a solicitor, legal commentator and the journalist joshua rosenberg. joshua welcome to the show daily telegraph. today we're calling james timpson the most dangerous
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politician in britain because of his appetite for early release. what do you make of that? >> that's pretty daft, isn't it? the fact is that the government has got to reduce the prison population. the previous government knew that and didn't do so. the present government is left with a problem that has got to fix it. >> and in many ways, joshua, this is yet another inherited problem from the conservative party. a lot of big decisions being kicked into the long grass. and the labour party have got the mother of all in—trays only 700 spaces left across the entire prison system in england and wales. but what about another answer , joshua? what another answer, joshua? what about building more prisons? >> well , the new government has >> well, the new government has said that it will continue with the plans put forward by the last government to build new prisons, but they won't be ready for another couple of years. and we're talking about a couple of weeks. the previous justice secretary, alex chalk, to his credit, told the prime minister, rishi sunak, that something had to be done. either you had to,
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stop short term sentences. so if you were getting less than a yean you were getting less than a year, well, you wouldn't go to prison. rishi sunak rejected that. or he said, well, we've got to start letting people out now, alex chalk did let prisoners out up to 70 days before the end of their sentence , before the end of their sentence, but that headroom has been exhausted and as you say, the current government has inherited the problem. it knew it was going to get this. it's avoided having to take emergency powers under the civil contingencies act. but i do think it will have to introduce new legislation, which will have to be passed in the next 2 or 3 weeks before the summer recess to deal with the problem. >> and joshua , four year >> and joshua, four year sentences. you know, this isn't shoplifting or parking fines . it shoplifting or parking fines. it can be fairly major drug deals for example, what deterrent effect do you think it sends out to people on the streets of britain when they learn today? well, you only have to serve 40% of your sentence. >> well, they only have to serve 50% at the moment they're let out on licence after half after
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they've served half their sentence. and so this will be a little less i don't think it will make any more of or less of a deterrent. the one thing that will not deter people from committing crimes is if word gets round, that they won't be sent to prison because there aren't any prison places for them to be sent to. it's entirely appropriate that the government has to do something and do something quickly. >> excellent. so thank you for joining us, joshua rosenberg on the show. excellent opinions as even the show. excellent opinions as ever. now coming up, we'll go live to paris after the shocking results of the french parliamentary elections. and with two days to glory, we'll be asking, is it finally coming home for england? later in the show? we'll also hear exclusively from reform uk party mr nigel
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farage. welcome back to gbn. tonight i'm martin dalby. now, it's not just the brits who headed to the polls last week. because over in
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france, the second round of the french parliamentary elections has sent shock waves across all of europe . with the far left new of europe. with the far left new popular front unexpectedly winning the most seats. macron's ensemble alliance coming second and marine le pen's national rally underperforming pollsters predictions in third place. well, as you can see on your screens right now, riots quickly spread across lyon last night, and now questions remain over the future of french politics. can the coalition hold? well, here's the quandary because has president macron paid a massive, massive price? he called this election early. don't forget, just like rishi sunak did in the united kingdom, he didn't have to do this. he he did this. this is on the streets of paris. you can see bikes on fire. the french, not for the first time. the french are revolting. a huge, huge price could be paid
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for this because the policies of the left wing alliance coming in could cost more than ,200 billion. and joining me now to discuss the latest live from paris is times journalist david chazan. david, welcome to the show. president macron, bet the house on this early election to keep out le pen. but david is the price he will pay by forming a coalition with the left going to be huge for france? could this coalition bankrupt the country ? country? >> no, i don't think so , because >> no, i don't think so, because i think we're still a long way to go before we know who is going to form the next government, it looks like the centre left and president macron's centrists and the centre right are determined to keep the far left out of government. supporters of jean—luc melenchon, who is the leader of the far left party france unbowed. he's a figure
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who is often compared to jeremy corbyn, and his supporters are pushing for him to become prime minister. but he's a hugely divisive figure, and even some members of his own party don't want to see him in power. as we're speaking now , martin, we're speaking now, martin, negotiations are going on between the different parties that make up the left wing alliance to see who they could put forward as a prime minister. but the parties in the alliance range from the moderate centre left socialists through the greens, communists and france unbowed. and they've got very little common ideological ground. they banded together three weeks ago before the election , to bar the way for the election, to bar the way for the far right , election, to bar the way for the far right, but agreeing on a common program or a common candidate for prime minister is
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going to prove extremely difficult for them. so we could see a period in which, france has a parliament that struggles to legislate because no one has the working majority. >> and david melancon, as you said there, he also refused to brand hamas a terrorist organisation, got a lot in common there with jeremy corbyn. but some of the economic policies on the table would surely put the guillotine to france's economy, lowering the retirement age to 60 from 64. that would cost £49 billion per yean that would cost £49 billion per year, capping the price of gas, food and other essentials. a further 24 billion. this is cloud cuckoo land politics isn't it? >> well, that's what investors think. i mean, under president macron, foreign investment in france has risen quite a lot. but the markets were very concerned about the notion that the far left would be able to apply their economic policies, which would increase france's
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already large debt . france has already large debt. france has pubuc already large debt. france has public debt amounting to something like 110% of gdp. it's running a big deficit. public finances are under strain, and as far as the business community and investors are concerned, the last thing they need is a radical far left agenda. but the interesting thing is that the economic policies of marine le pen's populist national rally, often termed a far right party, are very similar to those of the far left. she also wants to reduce taxes and increase wages and do all sorts of other things, and doesn't really appear to have produced much evidence to voters that she's thought out the funding for these policies. so you know, it's, what president macron is
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hoping is that he can somehow cobble together a more centrist coalition and carry on with similar policies, whether he'll be able to do that or not remains to be seen. >> yeah, chaos across the channel and the olympics are rolling up all eyes on paris and across france for that. thank you for joining across france for that. thank you forjoining us. time journalist david chazan. always a pleasure to have your company. now still to come as the tories lick their wounds after their worst electoral defeat in history, we'll be asking conservative mp danny kruger what comes next. plus an exclusive sit down interview with a leader of reform nigel farage. you will not want to
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welcome back to gbn. tonight i'm martin daubney now after winning a nail biting penalty shootout, a nail biting penalty shootout, a tortuous one against switzerland. switzerland? we are just days away from england's euro semi—final clash with the netherlands. with just two games
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from glory. can gareth southgate take us all the way? well, there's only one man to ask. i'm joined now by the legend, the man who wore the shirt for england in three world cups, former goalkeeper for england and my team nottingham forest. peter shilton schultz. always a delight to have your company. so ispoke delight to have your company. so i spoke to you on saturday. you said the three lions can do it by joe schultz. you called it right ? right? >> yeah. it was a bit close though, wasn't it, martin? i mean, obviously these penalty shootouts are a bit nerve jangling, but we managed to finish on the on the good side of one, which is fantastic. and i thought all our penalties were superb. and, of course jordan, made the save. which mattered and, yeah. onwards and upwards. i think we're going to have to improve a little bit against the dutch, but, you know, we can do that, i think. >> who would have thought peter shilton, that suddenly england's redemption would be penalties? it's always been our achilles
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heel it's always been our achilles heel. but in open play, schultz, we looked lacking . we looked lacking. >> yeah. i think you're right there, martin. you know, we still haven't got that that buzz we had a couple of years ago , i we had a couple of years ago, i think if shaw can be fit and come back on the left back position or the left side position, i think that's going to make a big difference to us. i think when he came on, he gave gave us a lot of balance. i don't know how fit he is now, whether he's 100% match fit. but, he would be a massive plus for us, now putting a defender on people say, well, you know, we want attacking players, but it's about balancing the build up and getting the right sort of service into the strikers, which i don't think harry kane for example, has had that sort of service. he's he's up there on his own, battling away against two defenders, and we haven't really had that many chances in the box. >> peter shilton on saturday, you called it right. you mentioned the dreaded p word. you said england to win on penalties. what's going to happen against the netherlands,
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>> well, i hope it doesn't go to penalties. hope we went in in full time, you know. but, obviously any result will do is to get in. the final would be a brilliant achievement. and i'm sure the lads know that . and, sure the lads know that. and, every game is tough now in the, in the championship, you and i think that we can do it. we can definitely do it. we've got the players and you need that bit of luck. you know, but it looks as though we may be having it. so keep your fingers crossed martin. >> superb beat. shilton. always glass half full. thanks for joining us on gb news now. moving on. reform uk leader nigel farage will enter the palace of westminster as an mp for the first time this week. our reporter charlie peters , our reporter charlie peters, spoke to him earlier and he started by asking him what does he what does he do next with reform? after the publicity surrounding some of his more controversial candidates and the bashing he and his party got from the media, everybody wants to stop us. >> i mean, the political
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establishment want to stop us. the political establishment do not want change. and of course, it's great, isn't it? rishi gives way to care. it's just a change of middle management. nothing radically different is going to happen . things will going to happen. things will just get a little bit worse, yeah. just get a little bit worse, yeah . no. everything was done to yeah. no. everything was done to try and stop us. if you look at the story selection from the bbc. yeah, things the activists said became major news stories. did that happen with the labour party under corbyn? well, we did see some of the antisemitism, but frankly not that much of it. the channel 4 stitch up over the so—called racist campaigner. i mean, the biggest fraud i've ever seen. the guy's an actor, a posh actor who turned up in our office sounding like alf garnett. i mean, the whole thing was a stitch up. i could moan and moan and moan, but there isn't much point. the fact is that we have no support from any national newspaper. the broadcasters , including gb news, broadcasters, including gb news, were very limited by ofcom in
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terms of the coverage they could actually give us, and the bbc acted as a political actor right throughout my first interview, my first interview on the bbc, i did a speech from dover about the boats and why labour's plan wouldn't work , and the new bbc wouldn't work, and the new bbc news channel took it live. midway through, they cut off and the presenter said well, there's nigel farage again. using his customary inflammatory language. just extraordinary. now i actually got an on air apology, but that's not the point. it was clear from the start that the bbc had a political objective. this ran right through the russia stuff, where the fact that i predicted ten years ago what would happen and i was right about ukraine suddenly becomes, i'm a putin supporter. i mean, you know, some of this stuff's always going to happen. you know, it's politics. people get very tribal. but the extent of the bashing was extraordinary. do you know what? we're through it. i'm already planning the county council
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elections next year. i've i've beenin elections next year. i've i've been in an office here earlier on today sorting that out as a as a as a campaign room. we are very conscious now of the potential we have with labour voters. i mean, tony blair even writes in the sunday times that reform could now be a threat to the labour vote. the whole establishment knows that we're here, and it also knows we're not going away. and can the conservative party claw those votes back from us? they're so split and divided. i mean, the civil war has broken out already within the conservative party so i genuinely think we're in a very, very strong position. our membership is booming, we've got more members now than i ever had as leader of ukip for example. even when that was a major party going back a decade . so, look, going back a decade. so, look, you know, we're in good shape when it comes to this tory challenge that you're going to put for , on not just the local put for, on not just the local elections, but looking forward to five years as, of course, you have to be already looking forward five years. >> is there a single candidate
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fighting in this civil war now? who makes you nervous? which one do you look at and think they can speak to reform voters like the others can't? >> well, the media think it's bofis >> well, the media think it's boris johnson, but i mean, you're having a laugh, aren't you?i you're having a laugh, aren't you? i mean, he's the reason they're in this much trouble. he's the one who betrayed the reason that so many red wallers voted conservative for the first time in their lives in 2019. you know, he is boris johnson of mass immigration. he is boris johnson of insane application of net zero rules. he is boris johnson of, you know, do as i say, not as i do. so the idea that boris leads them back to victory, i frankly think that's completely for the birds . you completely for the birds. you know, look, i don't think it matters who wins, you know, whether it's a priti patel or a suella braverman, whether it's a jeremy hunt who, by the way, did very well to hold on to his constituency. it just shows you hard work on the ground. and he did work hard, does pay off. it could be a jeremy hunt, it could be a tugendhat. i don't think it matters who wins. they will be
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split and divided. they don't agree on anything. you know, the one nation internationalist globalist view against the eurosceptic view. i mean , the eurosceptic view. i mean, the earthquake of brexit. still the shock waves are still coming through the political system, and one of the reasons that deals with that, and one of the reasons blair is really worried about the labour vote in us, is it's all well and good. david lammy saying we want to have a better relationship with the european union. but if that means tying us back to eu rules, then the labour party are going to be vulnerable. but with many of their voters who did vote brexit. so i think we're in a very good place and, you know, am i si king am i ringing up former mps or current mps saying joining us, i've got better things to do ? things to do? >> well, joining me now to react to all of that is danny kruger, conservative mp for east wiltshire and former conservative mp jacob rees—mogg, of course, has his first show back tonight. danny, let's start with you. we spoke to robert
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jenrick earlier on today , also jenrick earlier on today, also on gb news, and he said there could be no role in the conservative party for nigel farage. what are the tories do about their nigel farage problem. >> well listen we our problem is actually with the conservative party. we lost voters to nigel's party and our great mission must to be understand why it was that that happened. jacob and i have a probably a shared analysis of that. we've been arguing for the last two years that our party should have been much more robust on migration. we failed on a whole range of issues that the public care a lot about, that we promised to fix. the nhs being the obvious one. that's why we lost. they went to reform because nigel presented a very compelling analysis of the problems of the country. he's essentially right in what he was saying. our mission as a party must be to win those voters back.i must be to win those voters back. i honour nigel. congratulations to him for winning his seat. but the issue is not him or his colleagues in parliament. it's with those voters who have deserted us. and our challenge is to see whether we can win them back. >> and how. jacob rees—mogg, do you think that happens ? there
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you think that happens? there can be no role in the party for nigel farage, says robert jenrick suella braverman. essentially welcome into the party with open arms. once again we have we have this schism. >> well, no, there's a leadership election that is about to take place and you would expect that both robert and suella will be putting themselves forward as candidates. and they're setting out their stall. and the initial stage . they need to appeal to stage. they need to appeal to conservative members of parliament, many of whom are perhaps one nation, as who may be a little bit frightened of nigel. so i can quite understand why somebody who wants to be a candidate at this stage is saying nothing should be done with nigel. nigel is a very important political figure. 4 million people voted for nigel. that's the thing to remember. they wouldn't have voted for reform if it had been led by richard tice. however, and i like richard. he's capable, man. very good businessman. but he doesn't have that oomph, that charisma, nigel gets through to people like boris does, and that is something that is very
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valuable in politics and the conservatives need to work out how can we have an offering that is not only sound politically, not only deals with migration and cutting taxes, but has a presentation that can cut through to voters. >> danny kruger, the quickest way to absorb that vote is surely just to absorb nigel farage, as the conservatives. >> well, he's saying he doesn't want to join the conservative party. and as it is now, well, and he's just stood against us at an election. so i don't think there's any question of a of him joining us or of us joining him. the fact is we are two different parties, but some of us in the conservative party share the same analysis as he and those voters who've left us, which is the british government failed the british government failed the british government failed the british people in the last parliament. we did some lots of good things. don't want to dismiss that. but fundamentally we didn't deliver for the people. our mission is to win those people back. and yes, and i agree with jacob's view there. there is a challenge around this very impressive, charismatic character in in nigel. but i don't agree with you that we will solve our problems simply by admitting him. we also have to consider those many people who did vote for us. we need to keep them. the conservative
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party is at its best when it combines with that respectable, traditional, centrist conservative tendency that centre right tendency with the people themselves in those kind of places that we've just lost. that's what the conservative party at its best can do. it won't do that if we just swing straight to aping reform, we have to bring those voters back to where we are, and that means ourselves moving in a direction towards them. >> jacob, final word to you. we've got about 30s what happens next for the conservative party? >> what happens next? well, first of all, we mustn't arrogantly assume that voters are piece on a chessboard that we can move according to positions that we make, that we have to win them over by argument. so it's making the policies and it's restructuring the conservative party to make it a good campaigning team. and i'll be talking more about what went wrong after 8:00. >> and now, of course, your jacob rees—mogg unleashed. you're off the hook. you can speak more freely. >> i am, i am the ed balls of gb news. >> wow. now that is a thought to conjure with. thank you very much danny kruger, jacob rees—mogg. and of course coming up next is state of the nation. first, though, here's your weather with alex burke. i'll be
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back tomorrow. 3 to 6. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello. good evening. here's your latest gb news, weather coming to you from the met office. the weather's going to make it feel not much like july. as we go through the next 24 hours with some heavy, persistent rain pushing up from the south in association with a weather system that's already made its way across some southern parts so far today. the heaviest rain through this evening and overnight is going to be across parts of southwest england and south wales could see totals of 60 to 70mm over higher ground, some travel disruption and some flooding possible even elsewhere across much of england and wales. it is going to turn pretty wet overnight, but with that temperatures not dropping a huge amount a different story further north across scotland, northern ireland, where we get any clear skies , temperatures will dip skies, temperatures will dip into mid single figures, taking a look closer at first thing tomorrow morning. and by 6 or
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7:00 in the morning, far southern parts of england . here southern parts of england. here the heavy, persistent rain will have cleared, but it's staying cloudy with some damp weather around. more persistent rain lingering across the central slice of the uk and this rain will be starting to push its way into parts of northern ireland and perhaps the far south of scotland. but elsewhere across scotland, it's actually looking like a fairly decent morning. perhaps the best of the sunshine will be towards the west, a little bit cloudier towards the south and east through the rest of the day. we are going to see this band of rain continuing to edge further northwards, so spilling in across more parts of scotland, northern ireland and lingering across the far north of england. elsewhere further south, staying fairly cloudy and some outbreaks of rain around, but there should be some brighter breaks and in any sunshine. not feeling too bad. temperatures peaking around 21 or 22 celsius. generally, though, they are below average for the time of year. more very wet weather to come across far northern parts as we go through wednesday. a bit drier further south, maybe some sunny breaks at times , but also some showery
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at times, but also some showery outbreaks too. and there will be some more showers to come as we 90 some more showers to come as we go through thursday and friday. that being said, there is a drying trend so optimistically hoping for some dry weather by the weekend . the weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news
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>> well . >> well. >> well. >> hello. good evening. i'm back. it's me , jacob rees—mogg, back. it's me, jacob rees—mogg, on state of the nation. tonight, the general election has delivered the biggest majority for a generation to the labour party. this is a vote for high taxes and high immigration. the conservatives have only ourselves to blame. meanwhile, channel crossings are already under way amidst keir starmer's announcement that the rwanda plan is dead. so what is labour's plan for illegal migration? reports have suggested criminals are set to be automatically released from
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prison less than halfway through their sentences. is this just a taster? what is calm under labour rule? plus, the ruling socialists have pledged to slash through the planning system. but are we destined for more ugly buildings? i'll be joined by one of the leading architectural voices in the uk. state of the nafion voices in the uk. state of the nation starts now . nation starts now. i'll also be joined by my most erudite panel, telegraph columnist tim stanley, and the author and broadcaster eamonn nicole turner. as ever, let me know your views. i hope you haven't forgotten the last few weeks. it's mailmogg@gbnews.com mailmogg@gbnews.com. but now it's your favourite time of the evening. the news bulletin with polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> jacob, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom
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