be in place. appointments will be in place. as rishi sunak confirmed last week he will eventually resign. well, today the new labour government admitted the summer will be challenging as the first boat full of migrants since the general election crossed the engush general election crossed the english channel this morning. the group of 64 illegal migrants was intercepted by border force officials and taken to a migrant processing centre in dover harbour this afternoon, though another boat also attempted but failed to make the crossing from france, and it brings the total number of migrants crossing so far this year to more than 13,500. that's up 12% on the same period last year. 13,500. that's up 12% on the same period last year . and it same period last year. and it comes after sir keir starmer announced the rwanda scheme is dead and buried, claiming he's not prepared to indulge in gimmick politics. but rwanda says it has fully upheld its side of the agreement . also side of the agreement. also today, the prime minister concluded a whistle stop tour of the uk. he said to reset

westminster's relationship with the devolved nations. sir keir met political leaders at stormont as part of his first official visit to northern ireland since becoming prime minister. he was accompanied by his new northern ireland secretary, hilary benn, the prime minister. of course , in prime minister. of course, in scotland at the weekend. so after northern ireland he headed straight for wales, where he met with first minister vaughan gething at the senedd amid concerns about the tata steelworks in port talbot, where thousands of people are facing redundancy . in news away from redundancy. in news away from politics, andrew tate and his brother have both been accused of serial tax evasion. the social media influencer and his brother tristan have been accused of failing to pay any tax on £21 million worth of revenue from their online businesses. devon and cornwall police are bringing a civil claim against the brothers and a third person, referred only to

as only as j. the force is investigating, recovering around £28 million in seven separate £2.8 million in seven separate frozen bank accounts, an application the three defendants are all contesting . and lastly, are all contesting. and lastly, storm beryl has made landfall in the united states in texas, after forcing the closure of major oil ports and flight cancellations, storm beryl was gusting at up to 80 miles an houn gusting at up to 80 miles an hour, but the weather system is now expected to weaken. last week, storm beryl swept through jamaica, grenada, saint vincent and the grenadines , toppling and the grenadines, toppling buildings and power lines and taking the lives of at least 11 people. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. now it's time for headlines. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

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crack the egg. >> all the important issues in it. >> it's the big humpty, >> it's the big humpty, >> let's have a look at our front pages this evening. we kick off with the times. by the look of it. pressure on starmer. oh, that's quick to raise defence spending. the telegraph have rowling attacks pm over new women's minister. we'll be looking at that one shortly. the guardian labour to fix front door of nhs by diverting millions to local surgeries. the express . so what's it to be? tax express. so what's it to be? tax rises or cuts to our services are the i news. reeves was ready for war over the uk's green belt, as she vows to take on nimbys. and finally, the daily star. i got 99 problems, but a ain't one. those were your front pages. ain't one. those were your front pages . so ain't one. those were your front pages. so we're going to begin with the guardian. josh >> yeah. >> yeah. >> labour to fix front door of nhs by diverting billions to local surgeries , local surgeries, >> of the 165 billion that the

nhs receives, less than 10% presently goes to gp's, wes streeting, has, has come in and said he wants more of that money to go to gp's more of that money or some new money. >> no, i don't think there will be new money. i think he's been talking quite clearly about not putting more money into it and actually just trying to fix with what they have. >> i'm sure it's a huge organisation 165 billion. >> there's going to be some wastage in there that i'm sure he can deal with always. >> yeah. new government comes in. how are they going to find wastage inefficiencies. so yeah people are waiting. >> you know more than a couple of weeks now a cynical person could say that. >> i mean he's saying it's to kind of, so you can get on top of these things. >> i mean, really what the gp does anyway, if you've got something wrong with you properly, they'll just refer you to a specialist in a hospital. but, as i said, like i say, a cynical person might say that because this is the front door. it's like sprucing up the front door so that people's. that's most people's interactions with

the nhs. at least then they can see someone quickly and get their wart removed or something. >> well, when starmer said he was going to get rid of the a m scramble, i was a little worried about how i was like, is it going to be a 9 am. scramble or a 7 am? >> it turns out by taking the money from hospitals. so we sorted the front door. >> but now i'm worried about the back door. i mean, if there's no money in hospitals, will the gp just sort of stop referring you at all costs? >> you know what i mean? yeah. >> you know what i mean? yeah. >> and you go and see the hospital about your back door quite regularly. how dare you? >> although most people, their interaction with the health service is a visit to the gp, isn't it? and so if that is the point at which they begin to get frustrated, from a pr point of view, it's probably quite good. >> but imagine they've got no money in hospitals and their whole job is to just block you from ever going any further. >> well, i went to the hospital recently. my father was in hospital for a couple of days and, i couldn't help feeling the whole architecture of the place. the signage that they used, the directions, the, the, the sense that you were lost permanently in a maze might have been deliberately used to disguise the fact that they haven't actually got the facilities that they kind of make. maze. yeah,

yeah, just kind of endlessly circling costa coffee. >> you eventually end up back at a gp. >> yeah. anyway, good luck to him. i mean god it's i cannot remember a time i'm 59. i cannot remember a time i'm 59. i cannot remember a time when the nhs wasn't in crisis, wasn't horrifically underfunded. but it does kind of feel like it's creaked a little bit further towards complete collapse lately . towards complete collapse lately. >> i'd say. blair, they they got it under control there. >> do you think so? >> do you think so? >> yeah. big investment and it made a difference. >> yeah. you were around before it was even founded and they just used to shoot. >> that's right. yes. we all we relied on benevolent funds, let's have a look at the next one. we've got the times, nick. >> yeah. so the times have that the starmer defence story. >> but we want to look at the biden one, which is biden dares critics to run against him for democrat nomination. and it's quite funny because he refers to the elites. and you're thinking if joe biden is not the elite. so what i mean, like the deep state president of the of the, you know, of the united states and the leader of the so—called free world, you're like, who are these elites then? but he means these elites then? but he means the elites within the party who are against him. and it is quite interesting because you have this schism. finally, you know, in the left in america, we have

the new york times trying to say biden shouldn't run. even stephen king today saying biden shouldn't run, but biden wants to stay and lionel shriver wrote a good piece on this, saying, well, of course he does. if you're this old man, what do you want to do with the remainder of your years? be the most important man in the world, or just be some retired bloke on the beach? >> but this is this is a calculation they've always had to make with dictators, isn't it? i mean, this is famously like part of the whole un thing and so on. you have to give them and so on. you have to give them an off ramp. it's not a million miles away from pinochet or whatever. you can't say the instant you stand down, we're going to swoop in and take you off to the hague. you've got to say, listen, your life will carry on being great. you know, you're going to have loads of lunchtime meetings. you'll go around to hospitals of it. >> yeah, but normally all people go to florida. >> in america, i imagine with desantis there, it's a disaster. >> so confronted with the least woke state. well speaking of off ramps, they're talking about how his team have to produce these huge documents with him for him. >> and which with complete with large photographs showing the exits to stages. >> yeah. >> yeah. well, >> yeah. well, that's >> yeah. well, that's the >> yeah. well, that's the thing.

he's i mean, there are two basic kinds of videos with biden, aren't there? there's him just seizing up and can't remember what he was trying to say. and there's him going the wrong way off from a podium. it'sjust off from a podium. it's just like wandering off. just put a leash on him. yeah, well, a little, lights that kind of like, you know, like the ones they use on aeroplanes to show you where where you get off. >> but it is frustrating. >> but it is frustrating. >> it is ego. he's not. he's trying to say he's jill's ego. >> it could be jill's ego. >> it could be jill's ego. >> it could be jill's ego. >> it could be she. she likes to keep him busy. and maybe, i mean, her status than him is raised and that is significant. >> i think. and i don't even entirely kind of blame her. i mean, you know, she's been around for a long time, but they're public servants. >> they should think about what's the for best the country. and the reality is it's only going to get worse. he's only he looks more frail. he looks more decrepit, frankly. and it's. and it's becoming very divisive within the commentary, because every day there's a piece somebody will like stephen king today, said mr biden, you need today, said mr biden, you need to step down. >> you've been a great servant. he's obviously totally on board with the democrat. but there will be another democrat going, mike, you're making all the focus about biden being unfit.

what about the criminal? what about the adjudicated things can be wrong, of course, but it's i mean, it couldn't be better from the republican point of view. they kind of want him to dangle on that hook for as long as possible. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> although i heard people claiming today don't don't get complacent. look what's happening in france. >> you know, trump still might not win. >> yeah, but there's no coalition. >> what has happened in france i understand that. and people did maybe get complacent. i mean, not that i particularly want to see le pen, but the, the reality is there was an organisation, there was a kind of coalition of very, you know, they came together to keep out. yeah. right. yeah. that isn't available. right. trump and biden, i mean who's he going to come together with? kennedy. >> no, i'm just worried that whoever the replacement is, they find a way. well, i'm worried they'll find a way. i'm not going to say they're going to rig it because because of ofcom. but by the way, jill's ego's an indie band i saw in the 90s, support teenage fanclub. i made that up. >> it was. it was a joke from three minutes ago, a sort of, john peel ish joke. yeah. played at the wrong speed. the telegraph. josh, we've got about a minute to go for this. okay, rowling attacks pm over new women's minister. >> so this was announced today.

the anneliese dodds , is now the anneliese dodds, is now going to be the new women's minister. and jk rowling's immediately, stepped on on that because anneliese dodds when she was interviewed, i think women's houn was interviewed, i think women's hour, she couldn't define what a woman was or she said it depended on context. context. and a woman is very simply an aduh and a woman is very simply an adult human female. >> well, i agree with you. and i think everyone who comes on this show agrees with that. but just to play absolute devil's advocate, she's kind of right insofar as there are legal uses of the term woman, which include men in our usage who have a gender recognition certificate. i mean, it's been widened beyond even that lately, which i think is crazy, right? but it does include them now legally. right. so there is a context in which she was being very sort of like evasive about it and not saying exactly what it is. >> you know, you could just say it's an adult human female, but there are people also. >> yeah, but but it's so it's not looking good because this is a sort of one of the first sort of missteps, possibly, that, that keir starmer has taken. >> and people were looking to

him to continue with the sort of the tories agenda of shutting down this gender ideology which has been so harmful. >> what do you think are they. well, she's not a she's not a biologist. >> so firstly, how can you expect her to know what a woman is and she's not a lawyer, as you say, it's now a legal issue. so how can she know? but yes, it's very disturbing. this is what i'm worried about with laboun what i'm worried about with labour, the stealth wokery. and this is what blair has warned against in his piece in the times. but this is a sort of rogue side that doesn't seem to be going along with the new blair agenda, but to be fair, i mean, penny morgan was at least as bad, wasn't she? >> at the dispatch? you know, this is they have inherited 14 years in which the tories could have made it quite specific and clear what the position was on this, and left them no room. >> sunak at the end they're saying, oh, we're going to stop with the gender, right? all you did it. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> your government did under their watch. okay. that's the pages coming in part two rachel reeves, find the cupboard is bare.

and welcome back to headliners this is your first look at tuesday's top stories. i'm simon evans, and i'm here with josh howie and nick dixon. we have the guardian now, josh. and to. no one's great surprise, it's the owner. there is no money. moment from the new chancellor. yeah, well, they weren't left note. >> so this is what they're having to do. instead, rachel reeves requests urgent assessment of spending inheritance, this is they're just going to go through all the go through the books. it's one way of avoiding, anybody saying it's their fault. i think people are mature enough to go. you know, they've inherited a bit of a mess, but they. but also the motto seems to be of the late of laboun motto seems to be of the late of labour, of like. no, the problem , labour, of like. no, the problem, admit the problem, to then be able to fix it apart when it comes to islamists. so, before they can make any commitments they can make any commitments they really want, they, they did say here that they wanted to, i want to make clear to the treasury officials that the manifesto commitments that we were elected on, and i'd go,

well, you weren't really elected on any manifesto commitments. you were elected because the other people were rubbish. >> because you're not the tories. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> that was all it was. no one was like, oh, we're going to vote in labour to get this thing. >> no. in fact, their manifesto commitments were infamously vague and absolutely. >> but but they do need to figure out where the money is. and actually, this is a what it's really about is also signalling to the markets that there's going to be stability. yeah. and i think that's the most important thing. >> they don't want to lose trust. kwasi kwarteng moment. what do you think, nick? is there any chance of growth she well, i hope so, but i'm sceptical. >> i mean, they're taking pains to blame their inheritance and so on. but but they would have spent if anything, more during lockdown. so let's be realistic about that. but okay. that's what tiff. yeah well no they would have spent more and also and then the i know you're blaming they haven't done i know you love labour. >> the point is it's not love labour don't like blaming people for things they haven't done. >> josh look i'd say so boring. >> josh look i'd say so boring. >> it's terrible. tv it's so boring. so, she talks about having robust rules. but of

course rishi had rules as well. when? when you're under pressure, the question is, will she be able to keep them? so she's already under pressure from the unions to, as they put it, tweak the rules governing debt and, you know, have more scope to raise spending so they want more money already. the question is, can she stick to that? but i don't know her. bob is very strong. maybe she can. and they've also got the house building thing they're going to building thing they're going to build way more houses. i've thought of a perfect solution. they want to release loads of prisoners and build houses on fields. why not just convert the prisons into new flats? i've solved them a lot of money right there. >> i've been saying for some time nightingale prisons are the obvious thing. they knocked them up very quickly when they were hospitals, right? it's not that different. oh yeah? yeah. and they just put on those collars like the dogs have where if they go very far off, you know, away from they get little nasty electric shock. so you don't need them to be high security in terms of the actual infrastructure. there are electronic ways around that. >> now, the problem with all this housing stuff is it is just the they don't have the planners for it. no. and that's they can change the rules. but you still need to have these people to implement them and they just don't have it in place. >> i think to be honest, if they remove the legislation against

house building and just let it happen, it would happen, right? that's the best way to do it. that's the best way to do it. that's what they're probably gonna do. yeah, they mainly need them to happen to get built in what are already tory strongholds, because the people who live there will vote against them for it. but, you know, as long as they've already lost them, they don't care. more enticing nick than dismal spending plans. the game of thrones on the opposition benches has kicked off. who will control the dragons? >> the dragons? yeah, well, some of them are so wet that they probably put the fire out, but some of them are. all right, so it's tory civil war amps up as right. blames moderates for putting suicide sunak in charge. that's his new name with calls for leadership context. context. i'm talking about context again, it's the gender thing contest to be delayed for six months, and complaints about lack of stars to choose from. so a sunak technically, yeah. this idea of six months, i've already heard he's not going to wait. i mean, can you really see him waiting six months? i've heard he's going to wait a couple of weeks and put a caretaker in. so you really want to hang around for six months while they sort it out? well, there was a suspicion he called the early election so that he could get away. >> wasn't there? yeah, yeah. >> wasn't there? yeah, yeah. >> and he's talked about staying as an mp but staying as leader.

i don't think he'll want to do it for very long. but they want to take their time and not rush it. that's what they're saying. and so yes, who's going to be the next leader. and jenrick looks quite likely to me as an early call because krueger's already backing him. suella is thought to have been too bold in her language and she keeps picking up reform. maybe she's going to go there. she's a natcon in washington. she's saying that farage has shown great courage, so she's doing an international reform uk speaking toun international reform uk speaking tour. so i mean, jen makes a good call. there's kemi, there's a few people gone. >> i think jenrick is, definitely has some, some credentials. but see the kind of visibility recognition. what do you think. >> no i don't, i think that they made a mistake. they should have voted kemi badenoch. yeah. and i think they would have had been a different position possibly now. certainly not. would have lost that that many people because she she out of all of them is the best communicator. yeah. she's very, very clearly spoken, very direct, is charismatic, courageous and courageous. yeah and speaks, you know, speaks truth. yeah. and people can spot that and they can tell the difference. and i think she would absolutely destroy starmer at pmqs. question time.

>> yeah. yeah i mean cam would be a good choice. the problem is will she be a choice for the party? i mean someone's saying here the one nation blockers. this is a clifton—brown. i think saying the one nation bloc has learnt nothing . the weird thing learnt nothing. the weird thing is the one nation wets control the party, but no one likes them in the electorate. so that's the big problem. they have to deal with. the advantage of nick is that he's a bit smoother and can talk in the kind of language of he's kind of a it's a bit like starmer the way he presents, but he actually wants to get tough on immigration and actually be a bit right wing. that's the strength he has. >> but we can look forward to anyone who's sort of interested in politics. on the longer view, there's some of the more interesting conversations do happen around this time, don't they, about whether you win elections from the middle or by, you know, putting clear blue water. as you know, thatcher had had some great election results with clear blue water. >> yeah. but cameron won it by trying to out labour. labour. labour won it by altering tory as in this play you mean. >> yeah yeah yeah . >> yeah yeah yeah. >> yeah yeah yeah. >> and you know now. no this time around. no. okay. in terms of, you know, pushing stay safe or stable, stay right in the centre or whatever. yeah. so it is there is a decision now as to

the soul of the tory party, what they stand for. but also it's a somewhat of a poisoned chalice because the miracle that keir starmer did in terms of turning around labour's , prospects, around labour's, prospects, i just don't think that the tories have it in them. >> daily express now josh and reform membership the elephant in the room of that last conversation is surging to within a whisker of the snp. in fact, time for a coalition. >> well, yeah. nigel farage hails reform membership surge as a party hits 65,000 people. they all pay £25, 25,000 new members have joined since, june eighth. and that's almost as big as nick. >> substack . >> substack. >> substack. >> okay. >> okay. >> now it's a not insignificant number of people, but it's almost i checked it is almost exactly the same as the snp, and of course, theirs hasn't been growing for some time, >> it's about half that of the lib dems. so yeah, i mean, that is, you know , i mean, it seemed is, you know, i mean, it seemed like it, you know, the reform was somewhat of a, i don't know,

not it was here to make single issue. yeah. >> a single issue thing whether it was. but but it looks now that there's a bit of legs in it. >> yeah. no it's good 65,000. i mean it's also the same number of votes the tories got at the election. so it's a lot. it's a big number. i'm never sure about the benefits of being a member because people can see you on lists can't they. then that's always my concern and they sort of find you. yeah. i mean, the benefits in the tories are meant to be that you would get to pick the leader, but they're always trying to do away with that. so would you get to pick the reform leader. >> they got to pick liz truss didn't they? fat lot of good that did. >> but then people started to say, oh we want to get rid of it. but but yeah. and some say we know we've got to keep it to stay in touch with the members. but would you get to pick the leader of reform if you remember, i wonder? >> i've never been a member of a political party. and i mean, that's not who i am, but i can sort of understand how it might be quite nice to be like us, you know, like people are with the football team or something. you know, that kind of feeling like i'm part of this organisation. >> let's face it, farage is going to do what he wants and you're not you're not going to

choose anything over farage. so what do you get as a member? do you get i want to know what benefits you get. maybe reform can tell me. yeah, stickers would be nice. >> yeah. maybe a, thing hanging from the rear view mirror, like a little like a perfume tree. >> maybe a nigel farage like bob bobbing head. >> yeah, yeah, that's worth it. >> yeah, yeah, that's worth it. >> or a dog toy, telegraph. now, nick, on the king's speech. starmer isn't stammering, is this? >> oh, okay. >> oh, okay. >> people smuggling. oh, the people smuggling. >> yeah. it's suspected people smugglers to be hit with travel bansin smugglers to be hit with travel bans in king's speech. you threw me with that king's speech speech. >> i'm sorry. that caught my eye. >> yeah. i mean, it's this is this is, this idea where you you worry, like, why wasn't this happening already? so they're going to use serious crime prevention orders against suspected people smugglers, and there can be a maximum penalty of up to five years in jail. you're like, were we not doing this already? i mean, previously it had been restricted to terrorists. so you weren't allowed to do anything to these people smugglers. and there's going to be enhanced stop and search power. so this is one of these where you wonder there's a good analogy from neema parvini. i've mentioned it before where he talks about this fingerprint operated machine, that it's an analogy for the sort of civil service and governance apparatus

and that when labour, when sunak use it, it doesn't work, but it only works when labour, like there's a kind of thing like, why couldn't we do this before if we're going to do it now? or is it because of starmer's experience? he always talks aboutin experience? he always talks about in smashing the gangs, all the gangs he's smashed, the criminal gangs. >> it's i've mentioned him before. a friend of mine who's a telegraph leader, writer and so on. sam ashworth, hayes says this about the labour come in and it is immediately obvious that they are willing and able to use the machinery of government to do things that the tories never seem to want. i mean, this, as you say, should have been a tory, but it does seem that they're just muffled all the time. >> well, that's what yeah, because that was all infighting and you know, it seems like the, the whole tory, when they're in power was just all about them just doing leadership elections. but anyway, obviously this is a good idea. i mean, at the same time, spanning smuggling smugglers like people smugglers from travel is like, that's that's their job. that's like banning drug dealers from buying crackers. like they can get they

can do it. this is what they do. also, you don't need to be in the uk to do a lot of people. they can be based in france or wherever. there's one guy who's based in iran and it's not going to eliminate the crime. no it isn't, but it does show their seriousness of this. obviously, now they've pulled rwanda . now they've pulled rwanda. that's £270 million that we spent on that and got nothing for it. was that all i thought it was twice that. >> no, it's 270 million. >> no, it's 270 million. >> it would have been 100 million more if we'd continued. >> i feel okay about it. well, i've. i've wasted over to france for the final one, this section with the daily mail. josh sentiments might be familiar to british jews. of course . yeah. british jews. of course. yeah. >> jewish families are urged to leave for israel after election sees antisemitic hard—left stormed to victory in disaster for macron . yeah, this is from, for macron. yeah, this is from, the, chief rabbi of i think, paris synagogue. and it's you know, french jews, as british jews to a degree, but not not as an extreme position are caught between a rock and a hard place here because you have the right

or far right, depending on which newspaper you read, where macron and you have the left and the left. their leader of the left movement, who who essentially won this election with a bit of gerrymandering, as we've talked about, is, is sort of their corbyn, who was said a few things in the past which are not good. there's a lot of anti—semitism within the far left, and, so, yeah, this is a really and but they're going to be forming a coalition. >> right. and there's no single big that's not been confirmed. and we don't know. i mean, france is looking borderline ungovernable with this kind of arrangement anyway, isn't it? i mean , i mean, obviously the mean, i mean, obviously the antisemitism in this particular story and that isn't, you know, separated from, you know, a bit of a worrying trend which there hasn't been much talk about in the in our recent general election, five independent candidates, all of whom are independent in the sense that they seem to represent gaza ahead of their own constituency. you know, it's madness. >> but in france , there's a real >> but in france, there's a real issue. they've got a much higher muslim population. unfortunately, there is serious anti—semitism issue within, muslim culture. you had a 12

year old jewish girl gang raped and then fought to forced to convert to islam. >> and the chap who's even further to the right of le pen is a zemmour, eric zemmour. you know, he actually is jewish, right ? algerian jew, i think. right? algerian jew, i think. but that may be a i don't know whether that eliminates the whole. it's kind of weird how there's different , whole. it's kind of weird how there's different, i don't whole. it's kind of weird how there's different , i don't know. there's different, i don't know. inversions perhaps of what you would traditionally think of as being continental. the, the source of continental antisemitism. >> yeah. i mean, the so—called far right jewish people, in my estimation, would be much safer with them. i mean, yeah, you talk about wilders in holland, who's very pro—israel, and i imagine le pen and bardella would be far safer for jewish people than these far lefties who are openly anti—semitic. >> i got you. oh, that's my sorry, mate. i have to run along, but we'll get you on for the second. for the third time. just about. yeah. part two. we have, sorry. part three, we have election night ratings, rolling rates, the and a blueprint for asylum . we'll see blueprint for asylum. we'll see in

and welcome back to headliners. nick the telegraph. now have a story about the various tv channels fortunes on election night. though there is one that is notable by its absence in this story . this story. >> yes, well, we were notable by our absence on tv, and that was the big flaw in our coverage. but, we'd better not say too much since bbc loses 2 million viewers in election night ratings battle, and it's just about how the ratings are way down in channel 4. actually beat them quite considerably. so, and actually to be fair, channel 4 did have some sort of quite interesting coverage. if we're being very objective. i mean, yeah, as annoying as alastair campbell is, it was quite funny to watch him and nadine dorries go at it. kwasi kwarteng was good and it's just quite interesting. >> it was, it was properly ill tempered wasn't it. yeah. campbell and dorries was quite compelling. >> yeah. yeah. so there's something in that. and they had something in that. and they had some quite good people on gb were good of course. but itv you sort of flick over to occasionally for the comedy value. but they were all right.

bbc the strength of the bbc one is they put the figures on the screen , the results very screen, the results very clearly. that's what i want to see. and channel 4 was saying they had some good arguments. but yeah, i mean that's the two bbc presenters, laura kuenssberg and clive myrie there. >> they're well enough known but they don't quite have that huge gravitas that the bbc can sometimes reach. >> yeah, you miss dimbleby flicking around. >> none of the huw edwards, of course, they said last time. which one would you miss on his absence? but they're not. >> the presenters were great. >> the presenters were great. >> channel 4 had a bit more of a showbizzy vibe, right? >> they should have just had me. i mean, none of the presenters are likeable. that's my problem because i'm flicking around. i'm like, where's the good? obviously, except on gb, but i'd have put me on personally. >> who did we have? do you know gb news? >> who did we had, we had brilliant people like camilla and patrick. i mean, i'm not dissing them. i'm dissing the other channel before people messaging. >> i mean, i know what nick meant, channel 4 one, in terms of their ratings went up by half a million, but they were still like, millions lower. >> still half than bbc. well, they went from four six to 4 million to 4. >> and, channel 4 went from half

1 million to 1 million. >> yeah, a million. >> yeah, a million. >> so anyway, i just don't want people messing. >> last time i remember, there was a famous thing when channel four's. they had a panel that had, like, comedians on, i think maybe nish kumar or katherine ryan or something like that. and there was there's a famous shot where the exit polls came in and, johnson had just obliterated and they all went, i know that was funny, but now they were so smug. >> was it this time? was the problem? >> i would say that part of the reason isn't necessarily the quality of the coverage was just, i think it was a foregone conclusion . yeah, that might be conclusion. yeah, that might be part of it. i did watch , i part of it. i did watch, i watched gb news and i was flicking back and forth. i didn't like, the bbc one. i just didn't like, the bbc one. i just didn't think they had much chemistry. i don't mind them individually. and, and you were talking before about this thing about chickens. >> that was funny. there's a quote in there. yeah. where he tries to extend a not counting the chickens metaphor. yeah. and i did the radio four thing with news quiz with lucy porter, among others. the other day, and she said she'd watched it. she said that myrie and kuenssberg had the sort of energy of a divorced couple at their child's parents evening, trying to kind of get along like they were

forced together. >> yeah, sometimes it works. sometimes. >> obviously here we have tv gold . gold. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> not everybody is blessed with our magic . our magic. >> who did sky have? do we know just kay burley because she made that bizarre noise when the result came in? >> i call it the sound of impartiality. i don't >> i call it the sound of impartiality . i don't know if impartiality. i don't know if you saw it, just the wild excitement of impartiality. >> okay, nick, we have. is it a vote? sorry, i may have jumped one there. let me. you know that is you again. okay. that's interesting. you're in two in a row. nick. this is obviously to make up for your. you're being cruelly snipped at the end of the last section. this is the legal secretary who could be in line for compensation following the most microaggressions. yeah it's telling a female colleague they look nice. >> could be sexual harassment. imagine that. so, marcus hall, a senior lawyer , made such a senior lawyer, made such a comment to meghan bratt. interesting surname in this case. and, because he called her nice. and this was a terrible, terrible problem. she said he needed to be careful because he could be the next marcus rashford or words to that effect. no, not marcus rashford, mason greenwood. so sorry. so sorry. he's just saying he could be a brilliant career ending. he

could be a brilliant footballer is what she was trying to say. yes that's right. >> he said who feeds schoolchildren? >> that was her concern. that was her main concern , so i was was her main concern, so i was thinking about the rashford today. yeah. that's yeah. anyway, the point is he just said she looked nice and she's one of these people. i mean, i don't want to say you. >> i think we have got a picture we can get it up. yeah. there she is. that's her instagram kind of. i mean, the thing is she's clearly quite kind. she has a particular kind of way of looking. i don't know if she's dressed like that at work, but apparently some of the female colleagues at work said that she was. >> yes. they called her a love island reject. yeah. i mean, it is a strange thing. now, you sort of you sort of you get loads of makeup and surgery and things like that. i'm not saying she had, of course. and then you say, no one say i look nice. yeah. or don't look at me. it's a very strange provocation. >> i mean, he's a 60 year old man who's whose attentions were possibly unwelcome. and apparently he was talking about how his previous girlfriend cheated on him and he found used prophylactics or something. he was, i think he had a sort of smutty conversation . is that smutty conversation. is that classic, sexual harassment in

the workplace? you know, the thing. flirting? yeah. you know , thing. flirting? yeah. you know, it's basically, are you a handsome man or are you a, you know, well, i think also it seems to be it wasn't just him saying, oh, you look nice today. >> he was like, oh, you look nice today. oh, am i allowed to say that or whatever? yeah, a little bit creepy. >> no. is the answer. yeah. >> no. is the answer. yeah. >> in a legal sense, yeah . >> in a legal sense, yeah. anyway, they haven't set the compensation yet, but let that be a warning. the guardian now, josh and they have a blueprint for asylum, which amounts to let him in. amy >> yeah, exactly. human rights groups give starmer blueprint for asylum overhaul, and this is a bunch of organisations have come together and giving their, and they've the guardian has seen it. surprise, surprise. yeah. with nine key, demands and, they can do whatever they want, i, i pledge i wish starmer would give me free board games, whatever. it doesn't matter. like this isn't news as such . like this isn't news as such. that's their job is to have open. >> unless there are these organisations. i don't know whether these are among them. of course. but we know that this is

a phenomenon that exists now, which are funded by the government. i mean, whichever government. i mean, whichever government it is, i think blair said a lot of them up in order to produce reports and research which support what the government wants to do, but give the appearance that this is a kind of yeah, i don't think this is that sort of okay, that vibe. >> but they have they have obviously an agenda. they want more people coming in or and they want. yeah, they don't want like the barges and all of this stuff. >> and how do we i mean, i think we've had this conversation. it's been going on for a long time. obviously we all know that a lot of hotels are full of asylum seekers. and, you know, the system is backed up and there is a part of me thinks if they're here, they may as well at least go to work. >> well, that's part of this. but the worry is if they're not. yeah no one likes the hotels and barges solution really. but then it says put them in communities instead. then one no, no. if you if you listen to this, it'll just be migrants taking over the uk and it will be a disaster. >> nightingale centres again i don't know. it's not easy is it. the point? >> the point is they can write this letter keir starmer. but it's sort of it's political suicide. he doesn't want . he suicide. he doesn't want. he recognises, i believe, that there is an issue here, even if he doesn't agree with it. he

recognises that there are people out there, the voters who want this issue dealt with. so he's not going to just. >> but do you think he's got any solution that hasn't occurred to the tories and that doesn't involve rwanda id cards. >> that's the blair solution that he's trying to push. does that he's trying to push. does that make you yet to see how exactly how it makes you safe? but it solves all immigration biometrics. >> okay , over to windsor castle >> okay, over to windsor castle now. and this could be a place that could house a lot of asylum seekers. but in the meantime, extinction rebellion . rebellion? extinction rebellion. rebellion? yeah. cindy yu. it's how the king says it. >> yeah, it's extinction rebellion plan. mass occupation of windsor castle grounds. so they're saying that i love this. they're talking about it being a direct challenge to the king. like it's 1649. i mean, what are like it's1649. i mean, what are you doing ? they recognise that you doing? they recognise that charles is actually being quite sort of green, but they say they're targeting the system. the system . man, it's just the system. man, it's just completely lame. and apparently they're talking about windsor castle has been chosen as an embodiment of a broken and unjust system . really? isn't unjust system. really? isn't that the embodiment of sort of a nice bit of tourism and some tradition? >> the windsor castle is the embodiment of the way human

beings used to behave before we were a threat to the planet , were a threat to the planet, surely. i mean, you know, virtually no fossil fuels at all. >> bring back castles. >> bring back castles. >> i do think also, most famously, they built windsor castle too close to heathrow airport. didn't they? that's the old joke. i mean, that's where extinction rebellion should be, surely. >> yeah. no, no, i mean, it really sounds like they just want a festival for three days. they obviously glastonbury wasn't enough for them. i got a taste for that. and they want to have another three days. the idea that the king can, do anything. yeah, and also they're what, they're going to go to this park and just ruin it essentially is what they're going to do. yeah. >> there'll be a lot of litter. i wonder whether the king has indicated he is sympathetic, though. maybe he has. well, they know he's obviously he wants to save the planet. >> everyone wants a planet that's saved. but how do we do it ? it? >> oh, well, there we are. those are the quandaries we all face, we have the final section coming up. eat and smartphones eat and smartphones the bliss it is to be in that

and welcome back to the final section of headliners. josh, we have the times now. two of my least favourite things work and beaches. and yet others disagree. >> indeed , sun, sea and >> indeed, sun, sea and spreadsheets. millions to work from beach this summer, so obviously we have a lot of work from home. it's all set up. so why don't you go and work from the beach as well? people can go on holiday, extend their holiday a few days and work. work during that time. yeah, and there's a different set of priorities. partly it's about attracting generation z, but also it's like as as one of the bosses, says here, you know, if you don't trust your employees to be productive, regardless of location , why did you hire them location, why did you hire them in the first place? i think as long as the job's done, why not? there's someone could work for a couple of hours in the morning. get that that part of their task done. >> and i honestly have no idea whether it works at all. i know i personally sometimes do miss, like the idea of an office, a community. some people to keep an eye on me and make sure that

i'm working and stuff. i think it would probably be beneficial for me, but i've been working from home like writing and stuff for decades, so i've completely forgotten all the downsides of it and the distractions and the, you know, the endless interruptions. but it does feel like if you were in 40 degree heat and there were flies buzzing around and there was a, you know, the, the call of the, of the cool of the ocean and the i think i'd find it quite hard to maintain any kind of concentration. >> i find it very hard to believe you could get any work done at the beach. unless you're a lifeguard, then it's almost ideal a lifeguard, then it's almost ideal. but i find it very hard to believe we have no separation with work anymore . do we at all? with work anymore. do we at all? no. i want to be more like starmer sometimes. clock off at 6 pm, go home. just, you know, the worst thing about the whole like the modern economy, everyone works in the service industry. >> you never fully stop working your weekends. you never stop your weekends. you never stop your phone. exactly. you never know . it's it kind of ebbs. it's know. it's it kind of ebbs. it's like a tide, isn't it? it's never fully out or in. but i guess when they say the beach, they're not just talking about they're not just talking about the beach. they may be saying maybe you rent a holiday home. it might even be in somewhere cooler, you know, for the summer. but but it might. >> so you just work for a few

hours at home before you go to the beach or whatever. >> i mean, i don't know, some of the world's great books have been written in sort of holiday locations and things like that, haven't they? i mean, it depends if you're in a creative industry or whether you're you're trying to do spreadsheets. >> i think it would be difficult. i'm the wrong guy. i haven't left the country in eight years. i've been to i've been to brighton beach. >> the ankle tag comes off. yeah the problem? you're going to hit the town. daily mail. now, eton rifles is one thing. as i indicated in my trail, but eton smartphones now? no >> yeah. it's eton bands smartphone for new pupils and will issue boys with an offline nokia handset aka burner instead. in a bid to improve mental health and behaviour. and a mike renee , who's the deputy a mike renee, who's the deputy headis a mike renee, who's the deputy head is saying this is going to be better for physical and mental health. now, i've always thought the problem with this is that you'll get the elites will fall behind. and of course, and it's sort of i quite like it in a way, because, you know, i went to a comprehensive school. they'll be the kids who know how to work tiktok and all the new thing, the new farage kids on tiktok. and whereas the elites will be just clueless and they'll just be like pen and papenl they'll just be like pen and paper. i mean, stuck in the

past, that is a genuine worry that parents have, isn't it? >> that if they don't give their kids smartphones, will they be sort of disabled in terms of their skill set? i think you could pick it up in six months probably. >> no, i don't think it's about being disabled in skill set. i think it's my concern and i've just given my 11. he just turned 11 the other day and i gave him gave him his phone was because it's for socialisation. they need it. they need to be on whatsapp. >> well, when i say skill set, i mean i suppose i include the social skills, but when the point comes when you need to pick it up, would you? is the fear. you never get it or just you just i have it. >> i regret every time i give them one of my kids a phone, i deeply regret it. i delay it as much as i can. but what can you? >> the thing is, how much it is. >> the thing is, how much it is. >> i think it has the opposite of if aiden's doing it. there's they're doing it for a reason, because all these studies show that it because all these studies show thatitis because all these studies show that it is bad for your, for your attention and all these people who don't have smartphones are going to do better at school. imagine my kids school, the elder ones in secondary school. they've got these pouches now, the parents, we had to pay like £20. and when they get to school they get locked as they go in and they stay. there's phones, stay in the pouches all day and it's making a difference.

>> they'll be able to they'll be able to read, but the kids will be killing on tiktok. so it's balance. >> i feel like i need one of those pouches, to be honest, just at home. i mean, seriously, i'm just like so endlessly distracted. it would be insane if you had one of those in a classroom. >> yeah, no, i an eton in particular, but a lot of it's very old fashioned . very old fashioned. >> there's like a kind of range of different offers in independent schools now, and some of them are just like full of high tech. but i think eton is one of those ones that is quite traditional, right. it sort of it has a certain kind of, i don't know, like traditional. >> yeah. although it's gone. well now hasn't it. >> but it's, it's kind of scouting for boys kind of thing. right. it's a sort of, you know, you can, can you survive in the wild. it's got a slightly army. >> well, no, because after the we all know one thing, they went very woke, didn't they. remember after the war, you know, will knowland when they and all that they went very anti man and anti—woke . yeah. and very woke. anti—woke. yeah. and very woke. >> sorry. maybe they're swinging back again. well i hope so guardian. now josh i have a strong sense there's a jeff goldblum jurassic park quote about this sort of thing . about this sort of thing. >> yeah. autism could be diagnosed with stool sample, scientists say. so this is, a

scientist, and they basically they found it's exciting for two reasons, because one is this if this turns out to be valid, which it seems like it is, it could be a cheap and simple test for autism, which is at the moment can take many years to be okay. yeah to be diagnosed, and also, it could even lead to some kind of cure or tempering of it because people who have autism have different microbes in their stomach, but also it can indicate the levels of autism. so if there's a way of rebalancing, there's a sort of chicken and the egg situation here. if you can sort out the microbes , microbes with microbes, microbes with probiotics and whatnot, you might be able to also have an impact of the order. yeah. >> so this is not exactly genetics. well it is they're saying that it's down to 90% of genetics 60 to 90% could be genetics. but and why can you not just do that by like a cheek swab then rather than a stool

sample. >> it's something to do with the actual well, even if you have the genetics, maybe it's triggered by a biome and they don't know. >> i mean, i've always thought this was correct. i heard it was debunked, but now it's re bunked , debunked, but now it's re bunked, which is that there's a link between the gut biome and autism, but they haven't known if it's because of, due to autism or the other way around. like the autism caused it because the autism could cause it because you have like such a non varied diet, you know, you just eat white bread. it could be that way. but it's probably the other way around that the gut biome is causing the removal of only one colour. >> is that. yeah yeah yeah fascinating. >> the scientists, they they analysed stool samples from 1627 children aged 1 to 13, which is a good job if you can get it. >> yeah, well, we wish them well, guardian . now, this might well, guardian. now, this might be our final story, so make it a good one. it's for our early morning repeat viewers, i think. nick. >> yeah, it's the cult of 5 am. is rising at dawn. the secret of health and happiness. and the short answer is no. obviously not. although i am up at five. but that's usually because i'm still up and have chronic insomnia. but maybe i'm part of the club in that way. i meet these people on the other side and, i'm doing different things. >> you know, obviously to them

over there is about i get insomnia sometimes. there's a lovely moment when you realise the dawn is coming up, actually in the summertime. and it is that lovely. yeah. to me it's disturbing. i can sleep then. no, because i'm never going to sleep . yeah. or you're never sleep. yeah. or you're never gonna. well, this is the classic. >> and this is a guardian writer who tried it. and people are always doing this. they want to be part of the cool club. they try it. they just find they're exhausted and it's horrible. it doesn't work. >> so some people naturally get up early and go to bed early. and it is weird because it is like it's it should be transposable, but it's not, is it? teenagers find it so hard to get up in the morning, right? yeah. >> well, they need their obviously they need to sleep, but they also want to stay up late at night. >> it's not. you can't. » ._ >> it's not. you can't. >> i mean, look, i'm doing a night job now. i get up every morning at 630 because i've got to make the kids sandwiches amazing and drive them up to the bus. >> consequently, you look an absolute bloom of health. let's, go back to one last look at the headlines, we've got tuesday's front pages for you. now, the times pressure on starmer to raise defence spending. the telegraph rolling attacks rowling pm over new women's minister louise dodd's guardian. labour to fix front door of nhs

by diverting billions to local surgeries. the express so what's it to be? tax rises or cuts to our services? the i news reeves ready for war over the uk's green belt as she vows to take on the nimbys. and finally, the daily star got 99 problems. but a ain't one. well, that's all we have time for. my thanks to my guests josh and nick. leo kearse excuse me, will be here tomorrow at 11 pm. with carrie marks and paul cox. if you're watching at 5 am, you're a champion. stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise, thank you for your company. thank you very much. good night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good evening. here's your latest gb news weather coming to you from the met office . the weather's going to office. the weather's going to make it feel not much like july as we go through the next 24 hours with some heavy, persistent rain pushing up from the south in association with a weather system that's already made its way across some southern parts so far today, the

heaviest rain through this evening and overnight is going to be across parts of southwest england and south wales could see totals of 60 to 70mm over higher ground. some travel disruption and some flooding possible even elsewhere across much of england and wales. it is going to turn pretty wet overnight, but with that temperatures not dropping a huge amount, a different story further north across scotland, northern ireland, where we get any clear skies, temperatures will dip into mid single figures. taking a look closer at first thing tomorrow morning . first thing tomorrow morning. and by 6 or 7:00 in the morning, far southern parts of england. here the heavy, persistent rain will have cleared, but it's staying cloudy with some damp weather around. more persistent rain lingering across the central slice of the uk, and this rain will be starting to push its way into parts of northern ireland and perhaps the far south of scotland. but elsewhere across scotland, it's actually looking like a fairly decent morning. perhaps the best of the sunshine will be towards the west, a little bit cloudier towards the south and east through the rest of the day. we are going to see this band of rain continuing to edge further

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gb. news >> it's 9 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. keir starmer's criminals could labour release 40,000 convicts back onto the streets early? >> and a starmer government offering them the green light to come across in their thousands. >> the star may day is on the way . illegal immigrants surge way. illegal immigrants surge into labour's britain plus , i into labour's britain plus, i always get a little bit frustrated when people mentioned life experience because no one has yet been able to explain to me why being older makes you better at the job. well he's obviously got a lot of brains, but is 22 too young to be an mp? >> also a descendant of enslaved people, a black working class man from tottenham. >> and it didn't too take long, did it? for david lammy to play the race card and the establishment media can't hide their left wing bias. >> why me and have you unpacked yet? >> have you found your way

around ? around? >> who's your money on to be the next tory party leader? >> i'm having lots of conversations with colleagues, but underlying all of this , of but underlying all of this, of course, we have to talk as a unified party. >> joe biden has yet another shocker. >> i'm staying in the race. >> i'm staying in the race. >> yeah, yeah, full clip to follow. but what would you do if you were on this plane? watch very closely. yeah. oh, good grief. well, there we are. not sure i'd fare that well there on my panel is columnist at the express, carole malone . express, carole malone. journalist benjamin butterworth and founder of global britain is amanda bogle. oh, and, what on earth is going on here? >> they're really running at our car . oh, dear >> they're really running at our car. oh, dear. >> get ready britain, here we go .

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