>> airs 9 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. >> labour's definition of a woman . woman. >> well, i have to say that there are different definitions legally around what a woman actually is. i mean , both of actually is. i mean, both of labour's new ministers for women don't know what a woman is. >> and in the middle east today, on both sides on this time is still and the illegal migrants openly smoke cannabis in detention centres. is there any deterrent left in starmer's britain? >> also that i was a member of a

government that presided over the mutilation of our children in our hospitals and from our schools? >> has britain been captured by lgbt ideology ? well, maybe it did. >> i knew that i was transgender since i was four. >> another man playing women's football, celebrated by the bbc plus scheme, was dead and buried before it started. >> it's never been a deterrent, and i'm not prepared to continue with gimmicks that don't act as a deterrent. >> there will be no refund from rwanda and this child sex abuser will be one of the first released early under this labour government. also >> and it is, i must say, it marked contrast to the little man that was there before you . man that was there before you. >> nigel farage slams john bercow in his first common

speech and fears grow for joe. >> has the president been treated for parkinson's ? no. is treated for parkinson's? no. is he being treated for parkinson's? no. he's not. is he taking medication for parkinson's? no >> broadcaster and columnist esther krakow is on my panel, along with director for the centre of immigration and economic prosperity, steven woolfe and author amy nicole turner. oh, yes. and can you guess what keir starmer said next? here >> do you accept that there's a problem with the relationship between the labour party and british muslims at the moment? >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. let's just give illegals a load of cannabis in a free house . next. >> the top stories at just after 9:00. the prime minister, sir

keir starmer, is on his way to a nato summit in washington, saying he remains committed to increasing defence spending to 2.5% of gdp and will do so following a review of defence strategy. he added labour's planning to conduct an entire review of britain's defence capabilities. >> my message is very, very clear that this nato summit is an opportunity for allies to stand together to strengthen their resolve, particularly in light of that appalling attack against russian aggression. i am pleased to have the early opportunity to affirm and reaffirm labour's strong support, unshakeable support for nato. we're a founding member. it's now the 75th anniversary, but this is an opportunity to send that message in relation to russian aggression, wherever. but that attack last week was appalling. and so the message is even more important now than it was before. >> sir keir starmer well, earlier on today, mps were busy being sworn in as labour

ministers sat on the front bench for the first time in 14 years, 643 mp5 for the first time in 14 years, 643 mps gathered ahead of parliament's state opening, which is slated for next week. sir keir starmer, speaking for the first time at the despatch box as prime minister. >> now, as in any new parliament, we have the opportunity and the responsibility to put an end to a politics that has too often seemed self—serving and self—obsessed, and to replace that politics of performance with the politics of service. because service is a precondition for hope and trust , precondition for hope and trust, and the need to restore trust should weigh heavily on every member here, new and returning alike, we all have a duty to show that politics can be a force for good. so whatever our political differences, it's now time to turn the page unite in a common endeavour of national

renewal, and make this new parliament a parliament of service . service. >> well, in response to that, rishi sunak, now leader of the opposition, held out the olive branch to sir keir starmer. >> can i start by congratulating the prime minister on his election victory? and as he takes on his formidable task, he and his family deserve the good wishes of all of us in this house. now, in our politics, we can argue vigorously, as the prime minister and i did over the past six weeks, but still respect each other and whatever disputes we may have in this parliament. i know that everyone in this house will not lose sight of the fact that we are all motivated by our desire to serve our constituents, our country, and advance the principles that we honourably believe in rishi sunak the now leader of the opposition. >> well, in years away from politics, dyson is to cut up to 1000 jobs as part of a global restructuring programme for the company. the wiltshire based appliance manufacturer employs about 3500 people right across the uk , and is best known for

the uk, and is best known for the uk, and is best known for the invention of the bagless vacuum cleaner, innovative home cooling fans and hair styling products . and as if you didn't products. and as if you didn't know, the england squad has been training today ahead of their euro 2024 semi—final tomorrow , euro 2024 semi—final tomorrow, gareth southgate's side will face the netherlands at signal iduna park in dortmund, all 26 players taking part in the lunchtime training session today, ahead of making their trip from their blankenheim base. we wish them luck. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an houn middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> there is absolutely no deterrent for illegal immigrants anymore, a new report has found .

anymore, a new report has found. illegal migrants are openly smoking cannabis in a detention centre, and staff just leave them to it. the vast majority of them to it. the vast majority of them are released from detention centres, even if they might one day be deported, which , shock, day be deported, which, shock, horror, it turns out they almost definitely won't be even criminal illegals who had volunteered to be deported were not being removed quickly. according to this report, most failed asylum seekers held for deportation are released . 3780 deportation are released. 3780 illegals were released from prison us from prison. more than five years ago and are still living in britain . apparently, living in britain. apparently, the problem was compounded by the problem was compounded by the fact that staff at the home office were saying they didn't know if one of the detention centres near heathrow airport would even be open in a few months time, so they couldn't recruit people to work on the site. well, could it be that labour will now shut that detention centre and others like it down? i mean, that would hardly be surprising, wouldn't it, sir keir starmer has just scrapped the rwanda plan. rwanda, by the way, will not be

giving us a refund for that. and the man who wrote this report into the site near heathrow airport made this recommendation . airport made this recommendation. nobody should be detained in an immigration removal centre unless they are going to be removed quickly from the country . removed quickly from the country. yet around 60% of detainees were released from the centre , with released from the centre, with only one third deported, he added that it begged the question why so much taxpayers money was being spent keeping them locked up in the first place? i mean, i can think of a few reasons, can't you? but civil servants at the home office advised then immigration minister robert jenrick that the best thing to do would be to clear the backlog by having a total amnesty. now he refused. that will labour do the same? labour have already confirmed that successful asylum seekers will be eligible for the 1.5 million new houses they're planning on building in the next five years. we have not yet appointed a head of this new border command unit, wherever the heck they're calling it. we haven't yet introduced new counter—terror laws to smash the gang.soi

counter—terror laws to smash the gang. so i do ask you, as we sit here today, is there any deterrent at all to stop illegal immigrants coming to britain or actually, has it just become a lot more desirable ? let's get lot more desirable? let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i'm joined by columnist and broadcaster esther crack. i've also got the director at the centre for immigration and economic prosperity, steven woolfe, and i'm joined by author amy nicholson. stephen, i'll start with you on this at the moment. i mean, why don't we just cut out the middleman and give a load of illegal migrants a load of cannabis in a free house? >> well, it'll certainly be a lot cheaper in the in the border force agency and save us the money that we're spending about a billion a year on that. but i do i do find it laughable that the person who's written this report that says, okay, let's not host them in detention centres, let's let's effectively let them go straight away when we know from our research that since the 2000 to 2022, 578,000 and a few odd change of those who made asylum were rejected on

first initial decision. so we do know a lot of them were not actually being able to pass through the asylum process as being genuine asylum seekers on first process. and out of those 578,000, a few more do get through, probably about another 30, but we've probably got somewhere in around 37,000 a year that are rejected. so we're talking over half a million since 2000 who've not been sent back. and where does the cost go? it doesn't come from the home office. it's pushed on to the local authorities. so that is the lie that comes out. it's the hidden numbers. we take it off the home office books, and that's what starmer wants to do. look at us. we're brilliant. we're fantastic. there's no one queuing anymore. no, no one in deportation centres. but i am now having to give him more money to local authorities where the hidden numbers are. >> yeah, esther, i can't help but feel as though looking at all of this. now, what is the deterrent for an illegal immigrant now? >> well, there is no deterrent, basically, because the system doesn't work. i don't think people understand the scale of

the chaos and the way that the system is being abused. i mean, at the moment there are about between 800,000 and 1.2 million illegal immigrants in in britain and to tony blair's credit. and you don't hear this very often. he tried to implement an id card system. now, the reason why we're seeing a lot of people crossing the channel from france is because, unlike the uk, many european countries have a national id card system, so it makes it easier to identify the people that are in this country, their immigration status, to and deport them. now, we haven't implemented that, but that just means that it's a lot easier for people to get lost on the underbelly of society. now, it's not a conspiracy theory to say that a lot of the people that go to nail shops, for instance, most of them are cash only. most of them don't speak english. a lot of turkish barber shops cash only. a lot of these shops that you can't possibly think. how did these businesses turn a profit? but they keep existing and a lot of the staff don't speak english and it's cash only. we know this is happening. we know where these people are going. we know how they get integrated into british society and kind of live in parallel

lives across the rest of the population. the system is just not doesn't work enough to do anything about it. that's the problem. yeah. >> amy, i mean, you know, i think this will come as a bit of a shock to people to learn that in a detention centre right next to heathrow airport, cannabis is just being rolled up on the tables in the communal area. yeah. where did they get. and the staff are saying, oh, sorry, it's not really my problem and they're just shutting the door on it. i mean, what are we playing at here? this is a complete circus. >> i think to me, that's one of the least shocking things about that detention centre. that detention centre is full of people who have been found that they don't have the right to remain in the uk, or people who had false claims, or people that they can't really tell whether their claim is authentic or not, who are waiting to leave to go back to their country. there are people there begging to go back to their countries, but they're not being given the chance to leave. they're being trapped there. it's like being in a prison. it's very, very much like being in a prison. they can't make any money. they have horrendous mental health problems. probably the most shocking thing that i've heard about this detention centre is the suicide rate. there are

examples. there was an example of a colombian student whose student visa expired. he was staying here illegitimately, but i wouldn't call him a massive criminal. he ended up taking his own life as an engineering graduate. so that's the real shocking thing to me. not the fact that they're rolling joints. >> okay, well, i mean, yes, deporting them and we should use the word deporting them is also another big issue because they're countries we don't even we don't we don't report. we don't deport a lot. we don't deport anyone to afghanistan, for instance. so that's that's a whole like like i think a 12, 12% of people that are not eligible to, in terms of nationality are not eligible to remain in the uk in terms of the nationalities that are refused and are still here because we can't deport them. you have over 12,000 foreign national offenders that cannot be deported because of the european court of human rights and all of these sort of courts and charity industrial complex that are keeping these people here. i think the system doesn't work. yeah, exactly. >> but just on this, i'll come to you now reading between the lines here. so i interviewed when he was then immigration minister, robert jenrick, and he said when he took the role, the civil service advised him to clear the backlog. just have an

amnesty. and he said no, i'm not going to do that. so one would imagine that the same advice is going to be given to this labour government. now. it will be interesting to see how they do that. the person who wrote this report into this particular detention centre seemed to be saying, well, what's the point in having them there if we're not going to get rid of them, you know, remove them quickly. we know we can't remove them quickly. reading between the lines there, that's the case of, well, what's the point in having a detention centre? you know, they know now if they come, even if they do end up in a detention centre, you know, you can just get high on cannabis the whole time before you release that. >> that's not that's not. >> that's not that's not. >> keir starmer is going to be the king canute of immigration. >> nobody wants to end up in one of those detention centres. >> that's absurd that he's going to hold it back. >> but actually at the moment, there's no doubt sitting there there's no doubt sitting there the kingpins of the asylum process, who are sitting there knowing they're making 250 million to 500 million a year doing that with their hands, they're going, i'm great, thanks very much, labour, because just as biden did it in america, where we got 3.5 million in, we're all going to work together to get more in, more money for us, more people trapped in this country paying us fees in modern

day slavery. and it will be the labour party's lack of a possibility of sending these people back or having any deterrence that is at fault. >> but these centres are being run by private companies. these private companies are doing amazingly well. >> big business, isn't it? >> big business, isn't it? >> what an amazing government contract to receive. >> absolutely. i said this about housing. >> the contract says if you have an iranian or an of an of afghanistan afghanistan passport, you cannot be sent back. we don't have return agreements with these people. so instead of saying so when you say that these people would like to be sent back, actually they know very well that coming into the uk, but then if they're refused, they cannot be sent back. >> and quite often there were examples of, say, 300 people just being led out of this detention centre because they can't be sent back, and then they're led into destitution because they're given no support and no way of integrating into the uk. and then you're surprised when they show up in the criminal justice system. >> but if you give them the money, if you give them the money, if you give them the money, you just encouraging more to come over literally if you're rejected from your asylum application because you don't are you're not a genuine refugee.

>> and then suddenly you go to manchester, you're being given a house, you've got benefits. >> that never happened . >> that never happened. >> that never happened. >> what it is literally no one thing has to happen. that's what's happening. this is the thing and this is what i'm asking. what? what is amy? what is for you now? the deterrent for coming to britain. what? what is it? >> you know what? i think we always lose sight of the deterrent. the deterrent, surely, is boarding a completely unsafe vessel. >> that's probably going. is it? because they're doing. and leaving all of your worldly possessions and family? >> that's a massive deterrent if you're on that dinghy, if you're on that dinghy, you clearly don't have a choice, do you? >> you know, that was the deterrent. we wouldn't have had one. what would it? 1.15 million people. >> you need to spend three months in the congo. and i think you need a reality check of how most people in other parts of the world live. if you think that is, for some people, the most desperate and horrible thing they will go through that is the most naive perspective i have ever heard. for many people, making that journey, even ending up in the uk and getting £1 a day from the government is a dream come true. this idea that their mental health is suffering because they've landed in somewhere like britain, with all the resources that they're entitled to, is

ludicrous. >> but it is the case. it's not that there are plenty of people who have lost their lives in those detention centres because of the squalid conditions, but if it was a deterrent, 1.1 million people have left. >> they'll keep coming. it's not a deterrent. >> aspects of this is the thousands of people who were released from prison five years ago. oh yeah, and are still here. i mean, it is we are we are not deporting anyone . are not deporting anyone. really. no, we're not deporting anyone. and this is not, you know. yeah. fine. the question for me now is looking forward. what are labour going to do about this. and that's the reason it's very clear what labour are going to do. well yeah fine. but you know we cannot get around the fact that we've this situation has been allowed to happen like we are where we are now. and the conservatives were in power for 40 years and this is a shocker. so this is not just an entire back labour thing, but it is worthwhile. i think having a look at, well, what is going to happen now, deporting more people under the last labour government. >> so it's actually not a bash laboun >> so it's actually not a bash labour. this is the thing. this is the problem. this is a cross—party consensus on this. >> absolutely. they agree under we all agree premiership. >> we deported a lot more. it

was actually a much more efficient system. >> but we still we still detain more people than the whole of europe. >> it's about having a system that works well. >> we will watch this space. we'll be keeping a rather close eye on it. and believe it or not, things might manage to find a way of getting worse. but anyway, coming up, the 1922 committee has a new chair. but some tories are livid with allegations that it was a bent election. brexit spartan mark francois will be frothing live in the studio very, very shortly. plus look who's finally made it to westminster's green benches. >> and it is. i must say, in marked contrast to the little man that was there before . man that was there before. >> you expect fireworks, folks . >> you expect fireworks, folks. but up next, what do you make of this from suella braverman that i was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of our children in our hospitals and from our schools . so she sparked outrage schools. so she sparked outrage in the usual quarters. but did she really go too far ? have we she really go too far? have we been captured by lgbt ideology,

social commentator and writer james essays goes head to head with lgbt rights campaigner peter tatchell. that's next. stay tuned

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joined by mark francois. the so—called leader of the five families. he's absolutely fizzing because apparently, in a scene of complete calm, the conservative party have managed to absolutely butcher their attempt to elect the new chair of the 1922 backbench committee. so we'll be getting stuck right into that. but first, did suella braverman go too far with her comments condemning the progress flag? it's time now for our head to head . so suella braverman has to head. so suella braverman has made a blistering speech at the national conservatism event in washington , stating that the washington, stating that the progress flag, an updated version of the pride flag, flew over government buildings as if they were, quote, occupied territory. we can have a little listen far , far too many tory listen far, far too many tory politicians agreed and still agree that the progress flag must be flown to be kind, to be inclusive. >> it shows how liberal and progressive we are, and that's

what many conservatives want us to be. well the progress flag says to me, it says to me one monstrous thing that i was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of our children in our hospitals and from our schools . and from our schools. >> well, she added that that left her feeling physically repulsed. now, radical gender ideology has frequently been reported from within whitehall. so just last year, civil servants were encouraged to use their own pronouns in email signatures and to use neutral language when other peoples were not known. more recently, the telegraph discovered that staff in the department for work and pensions shared a 30 days of pride calendar with daily videos and articles on topics including transgender children. but did braverman go too far with her comments? let me know your thoughts. go to gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews and make sure you go and vote in our poll. but i'm joined now by lgbt rights campaigner peter tatchell and social

commentator and writer james sps.and commentator and writer james sps. and james, i will start with you because you have some experience of what it's like in civil service now. suella braverman his comments. for me, there were more of a sign of actually she wasn't in control because she wanted that flag taken down and she couldn't get it. do you think she's right to say that? it was like occupied territory ? territory? >> a completely. this ideology has taken over all areas of society and all societal institutions. i myself previously worked in the home office, and i saw this operating throughout every layer of the organisation. and if you're in a position where home secretary herself cannot row back on some of these regressive policies or this ideological symbolism, then what hope is there for a lowly civil servant just working in a policy role? you know, and we've just seen pride month come and go and i think that was probably the clearest example of the ideological. >> well, it's not come and gone. if you take a stroll down regent street at the moment in london, because it's still very much there. the we've had d—day

dunng there. the we've had d—day during this month and the pride flag was up there and not not the union flag. england are in the union flag. england are in the semi—finals of the euros. there's not a saint george's cross in sight, is there? it's all still very much the pride stuff. and peter, what is the progress flag then. because this is not just the rainbow flag, is it? >> it's the traditional rainbow flag symbolising the lgbt+ community. >> but it's also got additional chevrons on it to symbolise trans and bisexual people. black and ethnic minorities and intersex people. so it's trying to be inclusive for everyone. but i want to add a comment about what you said. >> lgbt people are not an ideology. we are human beings. we're part of british society . we're part of british society. we're part of british society. we have human rights to celebrate our community, and indeed any community is a good thing, a positive thing. it's not about imposing. it's about celebrating the diversity of british society ideology, though, isn't it? it's not an

ideology. >> well, let me finish. it is an ideology, though, isn't it? to deny basic biological gender rules ? that's a that's a theory, rules? that's a that's a theory, isn't it? that's not biological fact. >> well, well, that's a separate issue. well, it's not it's got it all on that same flag and it's hoisted above our government department, the lgbt+ community is very diverse, and thankfully most people in british society today accept lgbt+ people they don't agree with these culture wars. they believe in respecting other people and human rights. the comments made by suella braverman could have been made by neo—nazis like the national front or the bnp. years ago. those were so outrageous comments and she's been condemned by fellow conservatives, fellow conservatives. >> i'm going to start getting a buzzer right for whenever anyone bnngs buzzer right for whenever anyone brings up the nazis. when it comes out, anything any tory says. >> no, i said neo—nazis. i said neo—nazis, the national front. >> yeah, peter, can i say that's an absolutely abhorrent accusation to make? i'd just like to return to some of the points that you made. i mean, it's ironic that this is called

the progress pride flag, when actually it is a symbol of regression, this flag has been used to justify the experimental medical transitioning of children. i mean, there's nothing more aggressive than suggesting to young boys and young girls that if they don't conform to certain sex stereotypes, that they might be trapped in the wrong body. and i've seen people from certain lgbt+ groups use this flag as a way to justify their perversions, including sexual attraction to children and even animals. they supposedly fall within this rainbow umbrella. so i and to accuse suella braverman of being akin to a bnp member or a neo—nazi, i think is an absolute disgrace. she is concerned about the safeguarding of children, the protection of women's rights and the protection of freedom of speech. >> well, she she she accused her government, of which she was a part of, and said nothing of mutilating children, first of all, it is impossible for any child in this country to have gender reassignment surgery. thatis gender reassignment surgery. that is forbidden. just recently, puberty blockers have

been banned. so the idea that children are being mutilated by this government or any previous government is absolutely wrong. it's factually inaccurate. >> not true. peter. >> not true. peter. >> it's factually inaccurate. >> it's factually inaccurate. >> the definition of mutilation is severe bodily harm that has a ruinous impact on somebody's life. puberty blockers, which, yes, now , thankfully at last yes, now, thankfully at last have been prohibited but have been for a long time in this country, used on children as young as nine years old. it's caused brain development issues, bone growth issues. we know that children 16 years old have been receiving cross—sex hormones , receiving cross—sex hormones, some of whom have been left permanently infertile , and permanently infertile, and children as young as 17 years old in scotland have been placed on waiting lists for double mastectomies. so children very much have been and continue to be mutilated. >> you want to bring this down to the trans issue? trans is just one section of the wider lgbt+ community. some people in the community support your view, others don't . most people others don't. most people believe that trans rights are

human rights. there can be a debate about the issues, about women's rights and women's spaces, and i respectfully address that. i've respectfully addressed that. there is a difference. there's two different things. there are women based on biological sex. >> i would argue there's another. there's a third thing, actually, which is that someone who is or was the home secretary who is or was the home secretary who was in charge of the home office wanted that flag taken down and said she couldn't have it taken down because of a combination of civil servants and people within her own party. do you not think that's a little bit weird? she's in charge. she's the she's the gaffer. >> yeah, well, that's up to her party and the home office officials to determine . officials to determine. >> that's up to them to challenge it, though. no, i mean, who's in charge? but but by proposing to take down that flag, that would be seen as an attack and a threat against the lgbt+ community. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> it's taking that flag down. this is it, isn't it? once that flag goes up, the second you want to take that down, you're what, some kind of homophobic

transphobic. well, i would like to ask, peter what has happened to ask, peter what has happened to institutional neutrality, particularly that of the public sector. >> i mean, which is, you know, a hugely important principle to give confidence of members of the public in the public sector. i mean, in pride month, we've seen doctors wearing pride badges, state schools hoisting the pride flag . we've seen fire the pride flag. we've seen fire and rescue services marching alongside men dressed in fetish gear at the pride marches. we've seen people being cancelled from theirjobs seen people being cancelled from their jobs because they dare to say that men cannot become women. >> but hang on, the government's, the government celebrates diwali. you know, the hindu festival. the government celebrates black history month, the government celebrates women's commemorates the suffragettes and women's struggles. this is not one thing. it's not just about lgbt. it's rightly that the government celebrates all the diverse sections of our society, and i think that's fantastic. >> i get, i get that, i get that, but we are literally coming straight off the back of a time. we've had d—day and we did not have a union jack up on

regent street. and our prime minister left that commemoration early, so he could go and interview by the well, we should we should have. >> i agree, we should have the bloke who did the whole partygate scandal for itv. >> i mean, good grief, we are what we are. >> yeah, i agree, we should have celebrated d—day. >> thank you very, very much, both of you. lovely stuff. all right. who do you agree with? did suella braverman go too far with their comments? excuse me? condemning the progress flag. rita on your say says suella is absolutely correct. i wish more of these politicians would grow some and follow her lead. right? shannara on x says yes, suella went too far. trans people are constantly being targeted and it's constantly being targeted and wsfime constantly being targeted and it's time it stopped. danni says she's right. if the conservatives had listened to her the first time, she told the truth over these hate marches, they wouldn't have suffered such a humiliating defeat. right? let's see what your verdict is. 10% of you think that suella braverman went too far on the comments , and 90% of you said comments, and 90% of you said that she didn't. right. look, coming up as suella braverman and robert jenrick, it says, well , she says he's and robert jenrick, it says, well, she says he's on and robert jenrick, it says, well , she says he's on the left well, she says he's on the left of the tory party. well, another civil war in the party actually do them any good. plus, as this man makes his debut speech in

parliament, and it is, i must say , in marked contrast to the say, in marked contrast to the little man that was there before you , should the tories stop you, should the tories stop smearing reform voters, as suella has suggested, political commentator theo usherwood tackles that, and also as well i should just say , a story that's should just say, a story that's just broken about kemi badenoch. apparently absolutely. teeing off at the tory shadow cabinet meeting. so i'll give you the full details of that. but next. well, it's all kicking off again, isn't it? amongst the tories, because have they just conducted a bent election to appoint a new chair of the 1922 committee? brexit spartan mark francois is apparently furious and i'm pleased to say he's live

next. okay. welcome back. now, in the last hour, the tory mp bob blackman has been elected as the new chair of the all powerful 1922 committee, which will oversee the impending conservative leadership contest . conservative leadership contest. okay, so it's quite a big deal this. but the election was marred in chaos after voting reportedly closed earlier than expected. well, i'm joined now by the tory mp mark francois, the so—called leader of the five families. and mark, you have been absolutely fizzing about this. can you explain to our viewers and listeners, firstly what happened and secondly, why this matters? >> i'll do it in reverse order for me. >> all right. do whatever you want. the 1922 committee oversee

the rules for the election of a conservative leader. >> they can change those rules. so, particularly in the current situation, the chairmanship of the 22 is a very powerful position . position. >> we had an election today for the chairman. a lot of tory mps were uncomfortable that it was being done in such a mad rush. we've only just got back from a gruelling six week campaign anyway, they insisted we go ahead today . anyway, they insisted we go ahead today. i've anyway, they insisted we go ahead today . i've got anyway, they insisted we go ahead today. i've got a anyway, they insisted we go ahead today . i've got a text ahead today. i've got a text here from the whips office yesterday saying the polls would be open from 5 to 6. i've got here an email from bob blackman, who was, he says, elected , who was, he says, elected, confirming that the polls will be open from 5 to 6. >> yes. this is 5 to 6 pm. tonight, right? >> i mean, you think of that as like the polling card that, you know, people get to go to the polling stations in a general election. we just had one, right. i got there at 545, and i was told the polls had closed

because someone had sent out a whatsapp message about an hour earlier saying no , the polls are earlier saying no, the polls are closing at 530. a lot of people never saw that. and besides, the timings had already been set. so edward lee, the father of the house, the man who, you know, helped re—elect the speaker today, walked him behind me. >> and graham brady, the outgoing chairman, said, sorry, you're too late. and edward pulled his phone out of his pocket and showed him the email from the whips office. sorry, the text from yesterday saying, but it's 5 to 6. so to continue my analogy, we've just had a general election . mrs. bloggs general election. mrs. bloggs goes to the polling station with a polling card and the presiding officer. i'm sorry, mrs. bloggs , officer. i'm sorry, mrs. bloggs, you can't vote. didn't you get the whatsapp message? we closed the whatsapp message? we closed the polls an hour ago. >> so? so you're saying that you now need to rerun this? >> i saw bob blackman earlier this evening and i said you must rerun this. there were 23 out of 121 tory mps who didn't vote. the shadow chancellor didn't get

to vote. julian smith didn't get to vote. julian smith didn't get to vote. julian smith didn't get to vote. right. i mean, it's a really serious matter, but you've got a bunch of senior tory mps who can't run an election. well, we cannot have the man that presides over the rules for electing a new tory leader elected in a in an election which had a major irregularity. but what's the fear then, mark? >> because, you know, so you talk about they set the rules for this new tory leadership election. what's the fear? i mean, bob blackman , he's mean, bob blackman, he's a brexiteer isn't he? i thought he'd not be right up your street. is that right? >> look, these people have the power to change the rules, to change the rules. last time they said you had to get 100 nominations or you couldn't stand for the leadership , right? stand for the leadership, right? they could change them . again, they could change them. again, i'm not saying that they've done this to favour candidate a over candidate b, but these people have real power and the chairman has been elected in an election

where the polls closed earlier than people were told they could go and vote, i was disenfranchised , so was the disenfranchised, so was the father of the house, so was the shadow chancellor. we've got to do this again and do it correctly. you can't start our parliamentary year in opposition with an election that was chaotic. >> i do have to put this to you, which is that maybe it's this kind of complete and utter mess, which is the reason why labour won a landslide. >> i'm not going to disagree with you. you know, the decision to call the election when we did was mad . it to call the election when we did was mad. it was to call the election when we did was mad . it was taken by six was mad. it was taken by six people in the bunker. it was the whole of the party mps, the voluntary party. most of central office were expecting an autumn election. we thought it might be on the same day as the locals in may. then we were told stand down. then we were told, you can book your summer holidays and

bang out of nowhere we're thrown into a general election. the voluntary party, our voluntary party members, right, have slogged their guts out for six weeks to get some of us back into parliament. and they'll be watching this tonight, going , watching this tonight, going, what the bloomin hell is going on? and you worry. >> do you read between the lines that there might be a decision made to take the vote for the next conservative party leader out of members hands? >> look, i am utterly opposed to that. there are some mps who are advocating that. well, that's what we did last time. and look what we did last time. and look what happened to that. we've had two so—called coronations in recent years where the where the mps eventually took the final decision. one was theresa may, the other was rishi sunak. so no more coronations. thank you. our voluntary party members have been to hell and back over the last six weeks. it's been the most difficult election i've ever been involved in. they got sworn at two. yeah right. and

they have a right to pick our new leader. but still not bob blackman, to be fair, but still, some of our colleagues are trying to say in private, oh no, no , no, the grown ups must take no, no, the grown ups must take the mps . no no, no, the grown ups must take the mps. no bet. no, no, the grown ups must take the mps . no bet. really? they the mps. no bet. really? they couldn't even run an election . couldn't even run an election. >> so just to be clear as where we stand today, bob blackman is the chair of the 1922 committee. >> not, not, not in my eyes. >> you don't recognise that? >> you don't recognise that? >> not in my name. right? if theyif >> not in my name. right? if they if they want this to be legitimate, they have to redo it. if this was a general election and there was a problem like this, or if you'd had a say you'd had a parliamentary by—election and there'd been a problem over when the polls closed, you'd rerun it, right? not in my name. right. this we cannot have a committee that can set the rules right for a leadership election chaired by a man who was elected in an election that had a major irregularity in it. we just can't do it. it's not credible.

>> all right, mark, thank you very much. coming in tonight. great to have you on the show. and we'll obviously be following this one very closely. so thank you very much, mark francois there. well what do you make of that. hey i'm coming up there. we take a little closer look at our new minister. there's two of them, by the way. but this one, a minister for women. >> labour's definition of woman. >> woman. >> well, i have to say that there are different definitions legally around what a woman actually is. i mean , neither of actually is. i mean, neither of your two new ministers for women can tell you what a woman is. >> but next, keir starmer's hero makes a worrying admission. we as a country , britain, are going as a country, britain, are going to become much poorer . to become much poorer. >> great. >> great. >> we'll get stuck into that next. with top political commentator theo usherwood , and commentator theo usherwood, and will analyse kemi badenoch tearing into rishi suella braverman as well. stay tuned

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coming up, has keir starmer made a massive mistake by appointing anneliese dodds as one of the new ministers for women? when she doesn't seem to know what a woman is. but before that, the first shadow cabinet meeting between the tories took place. today and let's just say, things got heated. so in an astonishing leaked memo to the times, it's emerged that kemi badenoch npped emerged that kemi badenoch ripped into rishi sunak over election blunders. his decision to leave d—day early. the shadow housing secretary, who's seen as a front runner now for the tory leadership contest, also said that colleagues like penny mordaunt would still be mps today if he'd stayed in france longer. she also said that suella braverman appeared to be having a very public nervous breakdown and finally she emphasised that shadow cabinet discussions should not be leaked. well, that went well, didn't it? i'm joined now by former lbc political editor theo usherwood . theo. so it's kicked off? >> yes, it has kicked off. it's an extraordinary leaking. and of course, it seems to be that kemi badenoch is now running the conservative party. she's taken over from rishi sunak. de facto going by, going by the shadow

cabinet meeting, saying that, craig williams, who of course, was the pps to rishi sunak caught up in that betting scandal, was described in as behaving like a buffoon. and then, of course, taking aim at rishi sunak. i mean, he must be wondered why he'd hang around because, you know, leaving the d—day commemorations early is disastrous. and then and then, of course, going on to criticise the enormity of enormity of what had happened with that election defeat. i think there's a serious point to be made here that actually. and also, i just point out what she said about suella braverman having a very pubuc suella braverman having a very public nervous breakdown is that there may be just a very simple opportunity for the conservative party to just forget having a conversation, forget having a talk, talking about the direction the party is going to be in, clearly looking at the way that kemi badenoch has steamrollered the opposition, that actually she's the best person for the job to take on keir starmer. that seems to be the view amongst many of the conservatives i've spoken to.

and actually the problem potentially the conservatives have got is that they allow labour now to set the narrative to pin all of the difficult decisions that they're going to be taking over the next year or so, on the fact that they need to clear up the mess left by the left, by their conservative predecessors, whether it's boris johnson and the pandemic or liz truss crashing the economy, you can have a debate about both. but actually, if labour set this now and they've already talked about this , £58 billion of the about this, £58 billion of the cost of the chaos of the conservatives but if over the course of the summer they set that narrative so that in five years time the tories go to the electorate and say, please vote for us again. well, they'll have it in their minds. just etched in their minds that the tories messed it up over 14 years. i remember going it was the 2017 general election i had when i was political editor. i often got dms from callers and listeners at lbc, and i remember people were still messaging me going, i really like jeremy corbyn's manifesto, but can i trust labour with the economy? this is seven years after cameron and osborne took over

from gordon brown, and you can even make the case that gordon brown didn't actually crash the economy. it was to do with the subprime market in america. and the tories mustn't allow that to happen, because if they spend the next six months fighting away, then what they're going to do is they're going to make it much more difficult at the next election because labour are just going to set the tone that everything that they're having to sort out is to down them. >> so for you, you're hearing that kemi badenoch is amongst conservative mps, the front runner ? runner? >> well, it's certainly with certainly with the members. and i was at an event a couple of weeks ago and it was a tory event and everybody, everybody was talking about kemi and she was talking about kemi and she was touring the tables and she was touring the tables and she was speaking to the strategists and it was very much along the lines that, you know , this is lines that, you know, this is this is who we should get to take over , take over the party take over, take over the party and why have a protracted knife fight amongst conservative mps? why go through that process? what the tories need to do right now is they need to concentrate on labour, because if the labour set the tone, it's going to be much harder further down the

line. >> well, just on that, let's whiz it on a bit to labour because now we know everything technically is their problem. they are in charge. so we've got a clip of former labour prime minister sir tony blair sounded the alarm on sir keir starmer's plan to turbocharge growth , plan to turbocharge growth, warning that it might not be enough. warning that it might not be enough . the simple and enough. the simple and unavoidable truth is that unless we improve growth and productivity and drive value and efficiency through our public services , we as a country, services, we as a country, britain , are going to become britain, are going to become much poorer . britain, are going to become much poorer. yeah. so it coincided with a report from the tony blair institute that said that, you know, taxes might have to go up by a whopping £50 billion without a change in approach. i mean, is it time, do you think that labour came clean about our taxes? >> i think for keir starmer and rachel reeves, it must be really irritating. tony blair coming in, he's now second intervention. firstly, he was talking about digital id cards to sort out the immigration

crisis. now he's saying that labour's sums rachel reeves and keir starmer sums don't add up and they're going to have to find more taxes. i think what's also interesting is that during the course of the campaign, and this was a major attack line from the conservatives, was that labour hadn't owned up to potentially having to increase taxes to fill, to fill what is a sizeable black hole at 20 billion, at least in terms of cuts coming down the track in the next couple of years to unprotected departments. so tony blair now intervening and saying, you know, from the labour side, saying you're going to have to put up taxes, that is going that's going to sting, that's going to hurt. number 10, you know, tony blair had his time in office. he was very successful. labour prime minister and i think people would just rather now he just has he just you know he's got a very successful company to run. he should run that company. and just let keir starmer and rachel reeves, you know, run the country. >> just quickly on this. we are a bit pressed for time now but but we're not going to get a refund from rwanda. are we. no

that's the latest. >> no we're not going to get a refund from rwanda. and of course, you know, it's already cost. well up until april it cost. well up until april it cost £240 million. i mean, the rwandans must be delighted by that decision because they've done nothing. they've not taken ourselves. >> haven't we. >> haven't we. >> really. yeah. and but but you know, i guess keir starmer can try and make the argument. it was never going to happen because it would take so much time in the courts that it was a gimmick that actually it wasn't deaung gimmick that actually it wasn't dealing with the problem. but i do think that they're going to have to show that they've got this issue in hand. i think you can only go so far of trying to not talk about the immigration crisis. if in five years time the boats are still coming here, we're already paying £6 million a day for hotels, then i think that's going to be problematic. and if you look at the changes that labour have made, they're minute and actually their plans at the moment are exactly the same pretty much as what the tories were doing , minus rwanda. tories were doing, minus rwanda. >> but plus the cost, because

plus the cost is it because that was that was the argument wasn't it. well, we're wasting a load of money. well we have, we have. >> it's gone. it's gone. yeah. it's down. it's down the drain. and i guess i don't know if they dnnk and i guess i don't know if they drink champagne in kigali, but if they do drink champagne in kigali, i'm sure they're having a recently afford to. >> can't they down. look, theo, thank you very much. it's always a pleasure, my good man. take care and i'll see you again very, very soon. he's a wonderful theo usherwood. there. now coming up. we've got a lot more to get stuck into because j.k. rowling has hit out with anneliese dodds. she was made minister for women. believe it or not, labour's definition of a woman. >> woman. >> well, i have to say that there are different definitions legally around what a woman actually is. i mean, she's not the only one. >> there's now two minister for women, and neither of them can tell you what a woman is. are women safe under labour? that's what i want to know. and i'm going to be whizzing through a couple of their policies that i think may shock you, if indeed you are a woman , or maybe you you are a woman, or maybe you just care about them. it's patrick christys tonight on gb news >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather

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>> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. >> labour's definition of a woman . woman. >> woman. >> well, i have to say that there are different definitions legally around what a woman actually is. i mean, both of labour's new ministers for women don't know what a woman is . don't know what a woman is. >> that bodes well for these ladies. >> the only the individual and one female behind the locked door of the changing room. and you know, girls have reported feeling really panicked by that , feeling really panicked by that, >> also on the way , >> also on the way, endocannabinoids today al fayed

sadiq khan this cannabis scale and illegal immigrants are now openly smoking cannabis in detention centres. plus this child sex abuser will be one of the very first people released early under this labour government. he was a member of a grooming gang also, and it is i must say, it marked contrast to the little man that was there before you. nigel farage gets stuck straight into john bercow in the commons, meanwhile, that i was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of our children in our hospitals and from our schools , could suella braverman schools, could suella braverman defect to reform? and the joe biden saga gets more ridiculous. >> what was that weird face you were making when trump was talking? you know, the face? >> oh, this one. yeah >> oh, this one. yeah >> i've also got a very first

look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. and to do that with me tonight is broadcast from columnist esther krakue , columnist esther krakue, director of the centre for immigration and economic prosperity, stephen wolf, and author amy nicole turner. oh, yes. and why has keir starmer angered some muslims? >> do you accept that there's a problem with the relationship between the labour party and british muslims at the moment? >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. if you don't know what a woman is, you shouldn't be in parliament . next. parliament. next. >> good evening. the latest news. this hour, sir keir starmer is on his way to a nato summit in washington tonight, saying he remains committed to increasing defence spending to 2.5% of gdp. and we'll do so

following a review of defence strategy. as well as britain's defence capabilities . defence capabilities. >> my message is very, very clear that this nato summit is an opportunity for allies to stand together to strengthen their resolve, particularly in light of that appalling attack against russian aggression. i am pleased to have the early opportunity to affirm and reaffirm labour's strong support, unshakeable support for nato. we're a founding member. it's now the 75th anniversary, but this is an opportunity to send that message in relation to russian aggression wherever. but that attack last week was appalling and so the message is even more important now than it was before. >> well, earlier on today , mps >> well, earlier on today, mps were sworn in as labour ministers sat on the government front benches for the first time in 14 years. the new session of parliament, of course, underway today, 643 mps gathering ahead of parliament's official state opening slated for next week.

sir keir starmer, speaking for the first time at the despatch box as prime minister. >> now, as in any new parliament, we have the opportunity and the responsibility to put an end to a politics that has too often seemed self—serving and self—obsessed, and to replace that politics of performance with the politics of service. because service is a precondition for hope and trust , precondition for hope and trust, and the need to restore trust should weigh heavily on every member here, new and returning alike, we all have a duty to show that politics can be a force for good. so whatever our political differences, it's now time to turn the page unite in a common endeavour of national renewal, and make this new parliament a parliament of service. >> well, in response to that , >> well, in response to that, rishi sunak, now the leader of

the opposition , wished sir keir the opposition, wished sir keir starmer the best. >> can i start by congratulating the prime minister on his election victory? and as he takes on his formidable task, he and his family deserve the good wishes of all of us in this house. now, in our politics, we can argue vigorously as the prime minister and i did over the past six weeks, but still respect each other and whatever disputes we may have in this parliament. i know that everyone in this house will not lose sight of the fact that we are all motivated by our desire to serve our constituents, our country, and advance the principles that we honourably believe in. >> rishi sunak. well, the former labour prime minister, sir tony blair, is urging the new labour government to embrace the use of technology . speaking at his technology. speaking at his future of britain conference in london, the former prime minister said ai and digital id could boost growth for the country and generate savings, and he also warned the country would become much poorer and less. we increase value and efficiency through public

spending, breakthrough represented by generative ai. >> there is going to be another revolution on top of this existing one. the opportunities are huge. the risks are huge, but there is absolutely no doubt that this is an era of transformation . transformation. >> thames water says it's going to run out of money by the end of next may, unless it can get further funding. britain's biggest water firm, which is in debt by more than £15 billion, has just £18 billion in cash reserves in the bank. it needs to fund new projects and maintain and update infrastructure. after investors pulled the plug on £500 million of emergency cash earlier this yean of emergency cash earlier this year, it could leave the new labour government with a difficult decision now over whether or not to nationalise it, something labour has said it does not want to do . those are

does not want to do. those are the latest gb news headlines for now . i'm the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> the labour party's new minister for women and equalities doesn't know what a woman is. sorry, let me rephrase that. woman is. sorry, let me rephrase that . both of labour's new that. both of labour's new ministers for women and equalities don't know what a woman is. anneliese dodds was asked about it on woman's hour on international women's day. here's what she said . here's what she said. >> labour's definition of a woman . woman. >> woman. >> well, i have to say that there are different definitions legally around what a woman actually is . and i think with actually is. and i think with respect, emma, i think it does depend what the context is. sure >> and here's bridget phillipson

now as well . now as well. >> trans woman with a penis would use which lavatory. >> well, look, i think it's important that all people feel safe and have dignity. and she needs to go to the lavatory. >> which one does she use? >> which one does she use? >> i think there are a range of opfions >> i think there are a range of options that she hasn't got a range of options. >> respectfully, she's got a she's got a door with a woman on it. >> she's got a door with a bloke on it. >> which one does she go in? >> which one does she go in? >> bridget phillipson i would want people to treat one another with respect. >> she needs to use the lavatory. >> shadow secretary of state. >> shadow secretary of state. >> which one is she to use? >> which one is she to use? >> this shouldn't be a massive shock because the rot starts from the top. doesn't it? here's the labour leader and chancellors attempt to define woman. >> woman. >> a woman can woman. >> a woman can have a woman. >> a woman can have a penis. >> a woman can have a penis. >> i'm not. but i don't think we can conduct this debate with, you know. sorry if i offended you. no, no , no, it's just no, you. no, no, no, it's just no, no, no, i just for the vast majority of women, this is all about biology. and of course,

they don't have a penis. we all know that. >> i is it is it transphobic? look, i just i don't even know how to start answering these questions. >> so anneliese dodds is one of that triumphant double act of hardcore feminists running the show for women. now she wants to make it easier for people to change gender. so this means more blokes in women's changing rooms. she wants to allow a single doctor to sign off on it, instead of having a panel of doctors and lawyers. just to be clear, we already have situations like this . situations like this. >> it's only the individual and one female behind the locked door of the changing room. and you know, girls have reported feeling really panicked. i go in there and i can't wait to get out and get home at the end of my shift, they are nhs nurses, okay? >> and that's what they are being confronted by a bloke with

full tackle in their changing room. our new health secretary, wes streeting, who was miraculously today managed to have some kind of breakthrough. okay, with the definitely non—political junior doctors who've been striking every other week. but he's flip flopped on what a woman is as well. >> if you'd asked me a few years ago on this topic, i would have said, trans men are men, trans women are women. some people are trans. get over it. let's move on. this is this is all blown out of proportion . and now i out of proportion. and now i sort of sit and reflect and think, actually, there are lots of complexities that the problems that leading . problems that leading. >> right. so how is he going to sort that problem out ? j.k. sort that problem out? j.k. rowling has accused labour of abandoning the campaign for women's rights. well, look, having a labour leader, a chancellor, a health secretary and two ministers for women and equalities who do not appear to know what a woman is, you do have to ask, don't you? are women safe under a labour government ? let's get the government? let's get the thoughts of my panel tonight. i've got columnist and

broadcaster esther krakow. i've also got the director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity, steven wolf, and author amy nicole turner. esther, i'll start with you on this. are women safe under labour, do you think? >> well, that depends on what a woman is, because apparently there are many definitions. some women were hatched, some women were dug up, some women have six testicles, some women have no breasts . i testicles, some women have no breasts. i mean, it's just it's a pick and mix, really. women it's. who knows? who knows? look it's. who knows? who knows? look i think the, the gaffe here isn't. oh, they can't define a woman is. that's not the real controversy. the controversy is they know what a woman is. keir starmer who's married to a woman who has produced two children by the biology of being with a woman knows what a woman is. it's the cowardice that has infected our political classes thatis infected our political classes that is making them refuse to say what it is. because if they do, then they have to draw a line in the sand and say, actually, women should have their own spaces for changing. for instance, women should have women only shelters. for example. women shouldn't have to feel like they need to compete with biological men in sports, but they don't want to do that.

and that's that's the real issue, is the cowardice in our politics. >> i mean, two ministers now, two for women and equalities, neither of whom feel comfortable telling any of us what a woman is. >> but they did. they answered the question. they answered the question correctly. they said it depends on context. so yeah, you might need to declare what biologically you were assigned at birth if you're in a medical setting. but when you go to the wedding registry, when you go to a wedding registry, it's obviously what you self id, what sense, what sense would it make for a trans woman to be referred to as a man when she gets married? i don't know, maybe that's ridiculous, but yeah, it might. yeah. so that's what i'm saying. in a medical, in a medical setting, it is context. it is context. they're doing a good job answering that question. >> but the problem is in a medical setting at the moment, as it currently stands, we've got nhs nurses , female being got nhs nurses, female being threatened with the sack for calling out a bloke with full genhaua calling out a bloke with full genitalia in their changerooms. that bloke, by the way, is currently trying to get his own girlfriend pregnant, i think, and talk to nhs nurses about that and they just have to suck it up. >> can i just say that you

always get wound up about the accessibility of a gender recognition certificate, gender recognition certificate, gender recognition certificates would deal with this problem quite well, because i very much doubt that that man in that changing room has a gender recognition certificate. that's what it is, because you think it's about changing the validity of people's whatever gender they feel like in the hands of random. it's not whatever you feel like, is it? why would you want to? why would you want your birth certificate or death certificate, your wedding certificate, your wedding certificate to all be inaccurate so you can bust in a women's changing room? >> why some people we are. >> why some people we are. >> we are going to just let stephen have a word as the third woman on this table at the moment, i just think that anneliese is quite right that just for the next five minutes, i'm a woman and after those five minutes, when i go through that doon minutes, when i go through that door, i'm going to be back at man. >> how do you know that is the point? what? that comes down. >> oh, i'm stephanie for the next for the next five minutes because anneliese all right, all right, all right. >> this is the kind of laughable, ridiculous aspect about it. >> it's almost as though i'm in some sort of fantasy movie from the air, where these people will not accept the biological reality, and then change for all

people. >> it's relevant. well, you're not going to it's relevant because we're not trying to be unkind to people. >> we're simply saying that if we now have a third group of individuals, then we have a third changing room, we have third changing room, we have third toilets, we have third sportswriters. you cannot define yourself because you've got a penis, not really as being a woman just because you simply say it. that's the that's why i'm a woman now. and when i you just fundamentally misunderstanding what a trans identity is. >> and if you're the minister, you're the minister for women. >> could i care about 51% of the population who are women who do not feel that they're being respected? >> i reject here on this, which is that i think that i take at face value what you're saying, right . but i face value what you're saying, right. but i think one of the big problems is that what this doesn't account for is that people who are deviants , who people who are deviants, who want to identify as a woman so that they can have access to women's spaces, and that's a problem they will not get. >> they will not qualify for a

gender recognition certificate in all the places where self—id has been enacted, like canada, ireland, there is a case by case basis. so you fraudulent claims will be weeded out. you will not get because you because because , get because you because because, because when they put forward there's never any issues in canadian prisons. >> of course, there have been issues in canadian prisons about this, but that would be a mismanagement of the prison system. >> the prison system is functioning as it should. >> male rapist, not not. >> male rapist, not not. >> but if you if we if we go back to that isla bryson example, that famous isla bryson example, that famous isla bryson example, that famous isla bryson example, that individuals should never have been in that prison, that women they got into a mess with it though, didn't they? >> yeah, they did. they got into a mess with it because they were they felt unable to define what a woman is. and that's where we are. >> isla bryson did not have two ministers for women. >> i can't do that. >> i can't do that. >> can i just point out i don't actually think there should be a ministry for women at all, i don't think i think these are the kinds of gimmicks that create needless sort of debates. and quarrels and say, oh, you need to, dedicate these resources for women's issues. but dedicate these resources for

men's issues, i think, to move on from that. i think, yeah, i don't agree with that. however, it has brought up the important question of if you're going to have a ministry for women. it's utterly ridiculous that you have ministers that are refusing to define what a woman is. >> but to me, it's ridiculous to have a minister for equalities and women who would not include trans women in women. if you're going to talk about women, you are talking about trans women as well. >> they have penises, they have x, >> they have penises, they have x, y chromosomes. >> that, that, that, that's reminiscent of when margaret thatcher said that homosexuals were a pretend family setup. >> you're basically saying trans women are pretend women. and i think that is pretend women. but but, but see, nothing that makes a man a woman. and that's why i think you're misunderstanding trans identities and maybe, to be honest, i don't lose sleep over trans identity. >> i want everyone to live respected. fine. but i don't want to live in delusion. and i certainly don't want it to be forced upon me. i don't care what you identify as. you can identify as a fox, a chicken, a whatever the point is, we should draw a line in the sand when it comes to legality. i don't care what you identify as. please identify as whatever your heart. >> then people deserve to have legal rights . identify what they

legal rights. identify what they want. well, they can have legal rights in the legal, reflect their homes. >> they can have bank accounts. they just don't can define themselves as a biological woman . themselves as a biological woman. >> there are real world. there are real world issues at play. right. and if you go and speak to the numerous different sets of nhs nurses now who are having biological men in their changing rooms, and they feel as though they are being laid out when they're in there, and that there is something going on and then when they raise that with their line managers or hr departments, they are threatened with the sack. that is unfortunately a real world issue. that is happening right now. and when you look at on paper, the people right throughout the top of the labour party, it does beg the question. well what's going to be done about it? >> but that is not the problem of trans people. that is the problem of cis men. cis men are still the ones causing the problems to there are risks to cis women. they are a risk to trans women. you cannot park that problem of those nurses at the door of trans people, just trying to have equal rights to, to, to women politicians who need to stand up to that , isn't

it? >> and they stop it. but i think that's my point. i think reforming the gender recognition certificate will put that in motion. >> politics of being confident and honest than not being honest on this issue. okay. >> all right. okay. well look, a lively start and i have got well, another quite deeply concerning story coming your way actually, i will also have tomorrow's front pages. and i'm also going to be showing you nigel farage's first speech in parliament. i've got a little clip of that now and it is, i must say, it marked contrast to the little man that was there before you . okay, so he gave before you. okay, so he gave disgraced former speaker john bercow both barrels. so stay tuned for that. but next. yeah this is a big one. i'll bring you a shocking exclusive that puts labour's plans to release 40,000 prisoners early into a terrifying perspective. former greater manchester police detective and founder of the maggie oliver foundation , maggie maggie oliver foundation, maggie oliver, is going to be here live, reacting to it. it's astonishing that a member of a grooming gang could be one of

the first people released under this labour government early. stay

welcome back to patrick christys . welcome back to patrick christys. tonight we are on gb news now. as we reported yesterday, new prime minister keir starmer is drawing up plans to release prisoners when they've served just 40% of their sentence . but just 40% of their sentence. but what might this look like when

it's actually put into practice? well, gb news can exclusively reveal tonight that a vile ringleader of a rotherham child sex abuse gang will be freed after serving just seven years of a 13 year sentence. paedophile matloob hussain was jailed in february 2017, but now he's been referred for release by the parole board, meaning he is likely to be back out on the streets in a matter of days. hussain was found guilty of sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 13. he was 42 years old when he was convicted. i'm joined now by former detective constable and whistleblower in the rochdale grooming scandal. it's maggie oliver. maggie, thank you very much for joining oliver. maggie, thank you very much forjoining us tonight. much for joining us tonight. great to have you on the show. how do you feel about this particular person getting early release? >> it makes me really angry. patrick, i think what i would point out, though, is that this is not an isolated case. >> the norm within the criminal

justice system is that if a if a paedophile or a child rapist is jailed for 20 years, they will serve ten. if they're jailed for or sentenced to 14 years, they will serve seven. and that actually runs throughout the whole criminal justice system for all kinds of offences. so the problem is that the system on so many levels isn't fit for purpose. and the voices of the victims in all of these cases remains silent. you know, the victim of this man, of these paedophiles in this case will not have been consulted about whether this man is released. it is very much a routine thing, and he will go back to rotherham probably, he will be allowed to live with his family. he will be allowed to go in the local supermarket. and there is every chance that he will bump into the child that he raped when she was 13. and i have seen that repeatedly, even in the rochdale case. i've spoken about it on

your show before, patrick, that young ruby, you know, she was made pregnant when she was just 13. she didn't know her rapist, who was 40 odd years old, was released after about four years. she went in the local asda, walked round the end of an aisle and came face to face with her rapist. didn't even know he was out of prison . so this case is out of prison. so this case is not unusual. it's the whole system that needs a complete overhaul . you know, it shocks me overhaul. you know, it shocks me and it makes me angry. >> yeah, indeed. and the solution, presumably for you, is to not continue with this issue of allowing people out early. yeah, presumably it's to what build more prison spaces and keep them locked up for longer , keep them locked up for longer, build prisons, keep them in prison . prison. >> they are not fit to be there, not safe to release into the community and i have to question the criminal justice system from start to finish in the uk. if this man, this man, i mean, it

could be any man who was who was carried out these crimes. if he was convicted in america or in germany, he would be in prison for 25 years. you know, this is not even a slap on the wrist. it doesn't send out the right message that these crimes are life destroying. the child who has been abused will be affected for the rest of her life by what's happened to her. this man will walk out the whole system, you know, gathers around him the parole board have allowed him to come out. and why? because we don't have enough prison places. because you know, a sentence isn't what it is , you know, as isn't what it is, you know, as i've just said, you know, it's 20 years. it's ten. there are so many things that are wrong with the system. but every time it's victims that are trampled all oven victims that are trampled all over, they don't have a voice. >> now, this has been allowed to happen. this whole setup has been allowed to happen under a conservative government for the

last 14 years. there is absolutely no getting away from that. we are where we are now. but we have a labour government in now, and it appears that they are having some kind of new policy where there's going to be more people released after serving 40% of their sentence. when you look at individual cases like this, from from your understanding of how the system works, you know, can a justice minister stop people like this being released ? being released? >> i believe where there's a will, there's a way. this is all about prioritising , resources. about prioritising, resources. you know, do we think that, abuse in a young child is a crime that's worthy of a long prison sentence? i do, you know, we have to prioritise and we have to choose where we spend our country's money. for me, we need a criminal justice system thatis need a criminal justice system that is fit for purpose. it needs investment. it needs commitment. we need to care about these children . and we about these children. and we need to stop these horrendous crimes from happening. and at the moment, the message that goes out is that out of you

know, so many who are, abusing children that the chances of being caught are remote when we know that less than two in every 100 reported rapes leads to a trial. you know what kind of a deterrent is that? and if of those two, they're convicted to 15 years in prison and they're out in seven, you know , it's out in seven, you know, it's worth the risk because most of them get away with it , the ones them get away with it, the ones that don't serve a short sentence. and then they're back in their community as though they've done nothing wrong. whereas the victims suffer with the trauma of their abuse for the trauma of their abuse for the rest of their lives. so it makes me really angry. and i look, you know, i am not a party political person , patrick. this political person, patrick. this is successive governments that are failing not only our children but they're failing the public. >> yeah, i mean, the message that this sends for somebody who is that way inclined is, you know, you can do probably up there with the most unspeakable

crimes that most people could think of. and within a few years, you can be back out, like you said there. and it always amazes me, by the way, how many of their own families seem to just let them come back and live in the family home. i mean, good grief, you imagine if that was someone we knew there'd be nowhere near us, would they? but, maggie, look, thank you very much. great to have you on the show and much appreciated. and unfortunately, it looks as though we'll probably will end up talking about this again, maggie. but. take care. i'll see you soon. it's maggie oliver there, who, of course, was the whistleblower in the rochdale grooming gang scandal, former detective constable of greater manchester police. right. okay, look, loads more coming your way, including. can joe biden actually survive this relentless ridicule and make it to the white house again? >> what was that weird face you were making when trump was talking? you know, the face? >> oh, this one? yeah >> oh, this one? yeah >> but next, after several muslim candidates were accused of intimidating their election opponents , is labour backbencher opponents, is labour backbencher apsana begum right to call out keir starmer for this response

to falling trust in the muslim community? >> do you accept that there's a problem with the relationship between the labour party and british muslims at the moment? >> i will play his response shortly. we'll tackle that next. i'll deliver very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages

okay. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight. i've got a first look at tomorrow's front pages for you. here we go. we're going to start with the metro. it's now or never. yeah, they're going off on the england game, so there we go. we'll go to the daily star. your country needs you to really, really go for it. that's, a picture of harry kane there again about the football. the, we're going to go now to the guardian. starmer calls on nato to raise defence spending. now, this is an interesting story keir starmer will today. so this is tomorrow . we're in so this is tomorrow. we're in the we're in the past here now. he's going to call on nato

countries to increase defence spending . all right. he's going spending. all right. he's going to use the 75th anniversary summit in washington, his first international trip as prime minister to underline britain's cast iron commitment to the defence alliance. if we go to the independent as the same story here, starmer flies into nato summit and defence budget flak. so he's repeating his quote , iron manifesto commitment quote, iron manifesto commitment to raise defence spending to two, sorry, spending to 2.5% of gdp. right. but he's not saying when he's going to do it. and this is what they're hammering him for now as they are on the times. they're saying starmer is playing fire on defence spending . playing fire on defence spending. again, it is this issue now of him apparently saying, well, you know, talking tough on the world stage, basically saying, you know, look we need to do this. we need to it's a it's a time of heightened international aggression . and then everyone's aggression. and then everyone's saying, all right, but when are you actually going to do this? and stephen, i wonder what your views are on this. just on the times i wonder what your view is

on this. >> i think he's just they're saying one thing that he's got in his his manifesto commitments. he wants to be able to look tough on the stage. he wants to look like a proper professional politician and leader of the free world. be friendly to america and say all the right things because that's what he's doing . that's what all what he's doing. that's what all the right things about immigration, even though he's not going to do anything. >> well, give him a chance. >> well, give him a chance. >> all the right things on on keeping people out of prison. and he's going to release 40,000. he's going to say all the right things . but when it the right things. but when it comes down to it, he knows that we're impoverished nation, that we've got very little money out there. and somehow to start increasing that budget means that we have to pay for it. and that we have to pay for it. and that will put pressure on rachel reeves. and the argument, what we heard from tony blair, that potentially they've got to have £50 billion. >> well, i'm just i'm just going to. >> yeah. so i'm just going to go into a little bit more detail on this. so philip ingram, a former colonel in the british military intelligence, saying starmer is playing with fire because it will take years to fix the army, our ammunition stocks and get

the raf and navy ready. lord west of spithead , a former head west of spithead, a former head of the navy who was a security minister under the previous labour government, said labour should outline a timeline during the summer to set an example to all european countries and answer american concerns as well about the fact, especially if trump is going to get another term in the in the white house. you know, he was very big on this, wasn't he, when he was last in the white house that we are going to do our bit, i suppose. so starmer really has to has got one option here, which is to say to the world, well you all need to raise your defence spending and we're going to do it first, but then we're gonna have to pay for it. >> well, i mean, this is probably the easiest thing for him to posture about because we are one of three countries other than the us and greece. surprisingly but not for the reasons that you think that actually meets nato defence spending. so all the countries don't meet it. we're the only people that we're the only country, other than those two that does meet it, the question is if you're going to say that we should increase it. well, when are we going to do that? how are we going to do that? how

much pressure are you going to put on other nato members to do that? but he doesn't. the thing the thing is he can talk big and not deliver on very much because we already meet our spending requirements. that's the thing. so you don't really have to do much already there. >> so this is a brilliant introduction to the world. stage is going to go in an absolutely rock. this thing i think is safe to say on this. and i thought he actually cuts the spending. but it was interesting when we heard that phone call between biden and starmer earlier this week, and starmer earlier this week, and it was actually biden that said, first about our special relationship. so it's like it's going it looks like our relationship with the us from joe biden at this stage in joe biden's life, is the president of america. i get that. >> but does he i'm not sure he knows it. to be honest. he's wondering where he is. >> five star review from joe biden. at this stage, i'm not sure. is there, but this is going to be big. but look, politically speaking and for the optics, i know people hate that word , but the optics out there, word, but the optics out there, it's good. starmer is out there now. he's on the world stage. i mean he can he can say he's being given in some ways a great thing from the outgoing

conservative government because we're meeting various different, defence spending commitments. the other aspect to it is that we are i mean, our army is you could fit our entire armed forces. i think , into wembley forces. i think, into wembley stadium. yeah. because we had and now we're not doing national service falling through the floor. >> that's the main reason. >> that's the main reason. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> and i think what they do is they just pull us out as specialist teams to go in, and we know that we're out there in, in the ukraine supporting them. and helping them. so we're just used as a specialist force now by the us if we need them to go in that particular area because we're not big enough to take anyone on, you don't have enough weapons to be able to do so. so weapons to be able to do so. so we are like a reserve team that goes in. >> we'll have to watch this space. so this is this is a big story. it's on. it's on the majority of the front pages tomorrow. so i imagine it will be leading a lot of the discussions tomorrow as well. but another topic i want to get to tonight is despite their landslide, it's difficult for labour to ignore the impact that the muslim vote had on the election, with big players like jonathan ashworth losing his seat. wes streeting winning by just a 500 vote margin. well,

sir keir starmer was asked whether there was trust issues between his party and the muslim community. so here was his response. >> well, we've got a strong mandate , of course, where we mandate, of course, where we didn't secure the votes. we'll address that. but i don't think there's any disputing the strength of the mandate that we have. >> so one of their re—elected mps, apsana begum , has hit back mps, apsana begum, has hit back now at keir starmer, branding it an awful and an opportunity. ignored what he just said there to assure british muslims that he was listening. but after seeing such as this that jess phillips faced, should starmer be bowing to this mob, this . be bowing to this mob, this. >> this election has been. >> this election has been. >> can you throw them out? >> can you throw them out? >> yeah. i mean, look, there was numerous reports throughout the course of this election campaign , course of this election campaign, stephen, of pro—palestine groups standing on a endorsed by the organisation, the muslim

vogue.co.uk, where people like jess phillips say there are things like the tyres let down, women were abused, all of this stuff. well, i'm sorry, but why? why should there be some kind of consideration for keir starmer to start pandering to them? >> well, it shouldn't be any consideration for him to pander to anybody. at the end of the day, he has to be able to govern a country under the law. and with respect to everybody within that, and those people who stand outside of the law who don't respect another people, that has his job as a respect another people, that has hisjob as a prime respect another people, that has his job as a prime minister, has to ensure that those people are prosecuted and prevented from doing what they're doing . this doing what they're doing. this is why i have a problem with him. when he we talked about all those other issues that we've done on the show today, whether it's criminals, immigration, if you start to ignore one, you're going to allow others to take over the field and say, you're ignonng over the field and say, you're ignoring them. it's my turn to get in. >> i mean, if this lot as well, the kind of pro—palestine bngade the kind of pro—palestine brigade actually just scratched the surface on it. so we now have a foreign secretary who has come out and said that, you know, they would respect some kind of arrest warrant for benjamin netanyahu. they've called for the halt of arms sales to israel. you've also got jess phillips, who's now going

to be in, in amongst the foreign office as well, i think, who resigned initially over the ceasefire, over the ceasefire stuff. keir starmer now was accosted in a power league changing room by the looks of things. asked about the ceasefire, he said immediate ceasefire. he's actually doing what these people want. >> well, i mean, the thing is this this whole idea of him losing the muslim vote and i'm sorry, it's after 9 pm. so i'm going to say, who cares? who cares? because we shouldn't want to try and encourage this sort of sectarianism in our politics. we don't want if you want, you can vote for the muslim party of britain. but unfortunately you live in the united kingdom and it's the interest of all, all people that live in this country that matter not to the interest of people, that is based on religion or your, your, your tribe or whatever, and so i'm sorry, this if, if my mp came up to me and said, oh, this is an opportunity ignore. and i was like, okay, great, go form your own party. >> who cares what do you think? >> who cares what do you think? >> what do you think about it all? >> i just i just don't feel great about conflating the muslim vote and conflating people with concerns about gaza with people letting down people's tires and acting like

absolute idiots. i think jess phillips herself has said, those people that are causing being vandals, being, you know , badly vandals, being, you know, badly behaved, they represent no one. they're separate. like, don't people with concerns, people with concerns about gaza are represented across the country? thatis represented across the country? that is not her. >> so she's not talking about it from and i know jess phillips and she doesn't necessarily play like sort of the same kind of woke left game. but i think what she's saying is very fair. she almost lost her seat to this , almost lost her seat to this, this pressure group that basically wanted her to vote on on what was happening in palestine and israel, which is i appreciate people's concerns about that. i think we all do. watching what's happening in gaza. however, this is the uk you vote on. >> basically equally, we can say, you know , within legitimacy say, you know, within legitimacy that if there is an argument that's important to people, this is where democracy plays out. the point for where you've got with keir starmer is whether he should be ashamed or not ashamed of supporting this group of

people based on that one particular issue. his job people based on that one particular issue. hisjob is people based on that one particular issue. his job is to rule britain as prime minister for everyone and ignore particular groups. >> do you not? it did seem like a missed opportunity with his response to that question. it seemed like a really poor response because that was his chance to say, these are all the things i've put in place towards this issue, and, and put people's minds. he needs to address that electricity and water comment. >> i wonder that's the thing that people are still upset. your point? i do wonder what the opfics your point? i do wonder what the optics of it. i mean, we're going to have a little look at what nigel farage said in parliament now, a massive hoo ha. i mean, by the way, it turned out to be complete rubbish as we expose on this show. but reform hosting i candidates and things like that which didn't sell well, he did look different in real life, didn't he? >> blimey. but he did i do i violet that much better. >> but but you know, you look at actually the numbers of people there that were going around letting people's tires down and committing acts of vandalism on people's offices. there's not the same hoo ha about that, about a bloke who may have used some kind of i image. but anyway, today did mark the moment when nigel farage spoke for the first time in the house of commons and he didn't waste

an opportunity to have a little jibe at the little man, john bercow. >> you act with great neutrality that you have brought tremendous dignity to the role as speaker. so we absolutely endorse you entirely for this job. and it is i must say, in marked contrast to the little man that was there before you and besmirched the office. so dreadfully in doing his to best overturn the biggest democratic result in the history of the country. >> i particularly enjoy the eye roll next to him there. >> oh, they were definitely 600, though, weren't they? >> oh, well. but you know what, though? he's right though, isn't he? because there was a little man there for a quite a while who did his best. he's now been completely disgraced. by the way, i don't think he's even allowed to set foot back in parliament. is he john bercow, who did his best to overturn the wills of the people? >> i have no interest in john bercow. i think he was a disgrace at the time. he's changing one side to another just so it could suit himself. he abused people as we now know

who we working for him. i think thatis who we working for him. i think that is the most undignified person that ever took that seat. and i'm glad to see the back of him, and i'm glad that i can hear nigel farage, at least taking the eye roll should have been really for the way that that bercow was in charge, not for what? >> farage well, now we've got a new troublemaker in parliament. our nigel, nigel farage, so that we're going to have some fun and games there. >> well struck yourselves in now coming up, is it a form of sexual harassment to tell a female colleague that she looks nice ? we'll tackle that after nice? we'll tackle that after i deliver more of tomorrow's newspaper front pages you. stay tuned.

okay. it's time to return now to the very first look at tomorrow's front pages. let's do it. >> you see nothing. >> you see nothing. >> all right, everybody, calm down. so the i, thames water boss takes £195,000 bonus as the

firm asks for 59% bill hikes and dumps , double raw sewage. that's dumps, double raw sewage. that's a headline, isn't it? let's go to the mirror. england bid for euro glory. band of brothers, band of brothers. they've got there on the front page right now . the daily there on the front page right now. the daily mail have got a very powerful front page here. britain's most despicable drink dnven britain's most despicable drink driver, three times over the limit. he drove into the car in front at 141 miles an hour, killed baby zachary and then told police sometimes mistakes happen. grief. the daily telegraph pm could boost size of armed forces. there we go. so they are they are also focusing on, the armed forces spending summers off to meet the world leaders. isn't he all right? okay, so as ever, i am joined by our wonderful panel. i've got columnist and broadcaster esther crack, the director of the centre of migration and economic prosperity, stephen wolf, and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. now, is this a form of sexual harassment to tell a female colleague that she

looks nice? well, that's what a recent employment tribunal has ruled. after a senior lawyer made the comment to his legal secretary before asking, am i allowed to say that? well, it's worth noting that there were other incidents that made the employee feel uncomfortable at work at asda on the basis of someone saying someone looks nice, should that count as sexual harassment, do you think in the workplace? >> absolutely not. in fact, you should be fired for saying that i don't look nice, right? it should be. it should be a criminal offence for not commenting, not complimenting the looks of your female employees. >> because. because i think what she was also saying was this was accompanied by what she perceived to be like kind of a creepy look at the water cooler type moment. >> you see, this only happens if she she finds the individual in question unattractive. >> no no no no, not in this one. >> i've never heard a woman say sexual harassment. if someone like henry cavill says, you look beautiful, but if the person looks like a toadstool for sexual harassment, seriously, if the man is ugly , it's suddenly the man is ugly, it's suddenly harassment, right? >> maybe, but not on this. just not in this case. like when you

read the details of this particular case, it really reminds me of anyone. everyone's like, oh, she's sued mcdonald's because it burnt her, because the coffee burnt her legs. and then you looked at the pictures and they were like massive burns. yeah. so when you look into the details of this case, it's horrendous. >> it's like showing her pornography. but no , a pornography. but no, a particular problem if we're talking about he's a lawyer and he has a capability of using another word other than he's a creepy, horrible , gross lawyer creepy, horrible, gross lawyer who at school nice is a boring word. >> yeah. be a better lawyer. >> yeah. be a better lawyer. >> attractive . resplendent. gorgeous. >> you've taken a brilliant word in resplendent. you're about to remove my third word. right. i had that lined up. you know. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> i do wonder if he's a bit of a minefield. i get that, i get i do want to emphasise that by the sounds of it, in this case, this guy was pretty. >> yeah, he was. >> yeah, he was. >> but always say everyone looks nice. if you think it. >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> i mean, i tell you, compliments go a very long way, but kostiantyn yelisieiev is nice because you can see a situation where someone in there, a female in the workplace, goes, oh, he said he looked nice and she kind of says, were you being a bit creepy about it even when you

weren't being creepy about it? >> if it's ugly, yeah, there's only if he's ugly, it's ugly, or if he's socially awkward. >> all right. well spoken on that one. so i'm content to leave that one there. i think we've managed to trudge our way over another minefield here on patrick christys night. now the last patients on joe biden is getting thinner by the day, especially when democrat luvvies such as jemmy fallon are taking a jibe at him . a jibe at him. >> what was that weird face you were making when trump was talking? you know the face. >> oh this one? yeah yeah. >> oh this one? yeah yeah. >> but look, look , people are >> but look, look, people are worried because sometimes you seem to lose your train of thought mid—sentence, trail off and then say a random word. >> well, i can tell you that is simply an utterly wheelbarrow . simply an utterly wheelbarrow. >> yeah. and then now the white house has confirmed that a parkinson's specialist has evaluated biden, but refused to go into detail on the doctor's multiple visits earlier this year. yeah >> has the president been treated for parkinson's? no. is

he being treated for parkinson's? no. he's not. is he taking medication for parkinson's? no. so those are the things that i can give you full blown answers on. but i'm not going to i'm not going to confirm a specialist, any specialist that comes to come comes to the white house out of privacy. >> well, that's convincing, isn't it? so there we go. we can all go home happy now? yeah. all right. okay. science reveals his greatest bristling union jackass after your greatest britain. >> so it's the guide dog, jenny. oh, who, accompany the newly elected mp , steve darling of the elected mp, steve darling of the lib dems in the commons today. look at her. >> oh, we've got it. we've got we've got a video of the dog, the dogs just down at the bottom of the screen there. so behind, black rod. there we go. dog on floor in commons. you love to see it looks bored, doesn't it? but anyway. really, stephen, who's your greatest britain? >> well, i was going to say he makes more sense than most of them, but jk rowling. i'll go. >> okay. >> okay. >> jk rowling for her stance against anneliese dodds jk knows who a woman is. >> okay fair enough. go on.

>> okay fair enough. go on. >> pretty low bar, >> pretty low bar, >> my greatest brit nominee is the minister new minister for transport, aka the minister for high fashion, louise hay, who has been looking phenomenal on her way into number 10. i think we might have. >> we got a picture of her on her way in to number 10. oh, alas, we've not. well anyway. >> well that's nice, look him up. >> she does. >> she does. >> but she didn't win because she's beaten by the dog. >> the winner is jenny, the guide dog. when it was jenny, the guide dog. right. okay, union jack astor. i didn't hear that, but i wanted to anneliese dodds, just because i just think it's ridiculous that she is representing women and she can't define one. >> it's just ludicrous. >> it's just ludicrous. >> yeah, yeah, we've been over that, but absolutely spot on. i mean, i can't believe that we're in this situation, but go on. >> here's your union, jack corbyn, because he just turned around and said, what are we doing here? it's ridiculous. >> so this is at the swearing in isn't it. >> at the swearing in. >> at the swearing in. >> so you have to pledge allegiance to the king. we've got a clip of this. yeah the bible. this is such a good bible. >> this is such a. >> this is such a. >> this is such a. >> this is such a load of

nonsense as he's. >> i think he was just making awkward small talk, though, wasn't he? >> oh, no. »- >> oh, no. >> you know, in a queue, one by one, i didn't have to queue. like, it's just absolute nonsense, isn't it? >> really? hey eamonn, here's your union jackass, >> it's jemmy fallon, because. >> it's jemmy fallon, because. >> no, it's not so he's suella braverman . braverman. >> she looks nice. well, i'll have both , have both, >> actually, i didn't like what jemmy fallon did in that video, but also suella braverman for saying, the progress flag represents, children's mutilation and other trumpian . mutilation and other trumpian. >> all right, all right, all right. >> okay. today's winner of the union jackass is jeremy corbyn for saying nonsense, getting well. thank you very much, everybody. i've really enjoyed tonight's show, actually. thank you, thank you, thank you. headliners are up next. for a more detailed look at all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. i will be back on tomorrow from 9 pm, and it's important that we all remember that there is nothing else taking place tomorrow at 9 pm. that's worth watching. it's only this show , so i hope to see you this show, so i hope to see you all there. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello! welcome back to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. cloudy and damp in the north during the next 24 hours. drier further south still with some showers however, and it's going to stay humid across southern parts of the uk with humid air from the continent extending across many parts . but that means also a lot parts. but that means also a lot of cloud cover . continued risk of cloud cover. continued risk of cloud cover. continued risk of thunderstorms for the evening across east wales into the midlands and northwest england before they ease overnight and continued outbreaks of persistent rain for many other parts across scotland and northern ireland. further south, although it stays cloudy overnight , it will be although it stays cloudy overnight, it will be drier and it will be a mild night, muggy in some spots, 15 or 16 celsius dunng in some spots, 15 or 16 celsius during the start of the day. but for northern scotland, where it's increasingly damp, especially the northeast, across parts of aberdeenshire that rain, driving in on a brisk

northeasterly breeze . likewise, northeasterly breeze. likewise, outbreaks of at times heavy rain continuing across the central belt, southwest scotland, northern ireland. but for england and wales it's drier , england and wales it's drier, although not entirely dry. as we start off wednesday, a lot of low cloud around and some showers here and there . now showers here and there. now those showers will increasingly move east and north through the morning. brighter skies develop across southern england and south wales and it's going to be warm when the sun comes through, with temperatures reaching 2324 celsius. not feeling so warm across north—east scotland, where that rain continues to pile up and there is the risk of localised flooding with that rain, particularly across parts of aberdeenshire, into the grampians, 50 to 80mm in places. it's still there for the

>> hello there. your gb news. in a moment . >> hello there. your gb news. in a moment. headliners. but first, let's bring you the latest news headlines. and sir keir starmer is on his way to the nato summit in washington, saying he is committed to increasing defence spending to 2.5% of gdp and will do so following a thorough review of uk defence capability at the summit. within the last ten minutes, the us president, joe biden, has been talking about russian aggression in the east, saying that ukraine, ukraine can and will stop putin

before flying off to the