>> it's 3:00, and this is martin mark dolan for in martin daubney. >> a busy three hours to come, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and across the uk. >> the big story today. >> the big story today. >> police are trying to track down and detain kyle clifford after three women were found dead at a home in bushey, hertfordshire. this is a developing story . we will bring developing story. we will bring you the latest . meanwhile, the you the latest. meanwhile, the conservatives descend into civil war following their election rout on thursday. the blame game has already begun. will this historic loss make or break the most successful political party

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francis. >> mark, thank you very much. and good afternoon to you. it's just after 3:00 and a recap then on that breaking news this morning that's been coming to us in the last few hours. the three women killed in a crossbow attack, in what police are describing as a brutal triple murder are carol hunt, the wife of bbc radio commentator john hunt, and two of their daughters . hunt, and two of their daughters. in the last few minutes, we've also heard from the bbc broadcaster in a statement they've released to staff , they've released to staff, saying the news is utterly devastating, adding that their thoughts are with john and his family at this incredibly difficult time and that they will provide him and their family all the support they can. well, that comes after police found the three women, aged 25, 28 and 61, just before 7:00 last night in what they believe was a targeted attack. officers are now urging the public not to approach their main suspect, carl clifford , who's been on the carl clifford, who's been on the run since yesterday evening. if you're watching on television, these are the live pictures from that crime scene with residents

who live close to where that incident took place, describing it as a tragic and disturbing occurrence , very unexpected in occurrence, very unexpected in what is normally a peaceful and quiet residential street. chief superintendent john simpson says significant numbers of police have been deployed in hertfordshire and across north london. >> our overarching objective today is to protect public safety and to locate kyle clifford, who is wanted in connection with the murder of the three women in what we believe is a targeted incident. we have extensive police resources deployed to various locations in north london and also the bushey area of hertfordshire . the manhunt also hertfordshire. the manhunt also involves armed police officers and specialist search teams responding at pace. in the wake of what has been an horrific incident involving what is currently believed to be a crossbow. but other weapons may also have been used . also have been used. >> well, in other news, a second

man has been arrested as part of an investigation into a small boat people smuggling network. the national crime agency says the 25 year old iraqi national was apprehended this morning at an address in new rough hay in preston. he was detained on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and obtaining leave to remain by deception. it follows the arrest of an iranian national in preston earlier this year. in may, two children from a primary school in liverpool that's been deaung school in liverpool that's been dealing with an infection outbreak have sadly died. it's understood the children from milstead primary school were aged five and six. the uk health security agency says it's been looking into the number of cases of giardia at the school, but experts say it is unlikely their deaths are related to that outbreak . the prime deaths are related to that outbreak. the prime minister has promised a review of the uk's defence and security, which could see the size of the armed forces increase . his manifesto forces increase. his manifesto before the election promised to spend 2.5% of national income on

defence. however, he's refused to guarantee the government will meet that promise within his first term. instead, he's pledging to keep the uk's defences strong without breaking his spending and borrowing rules. defence secretary john healey says that review will determine when the manifesto commitment is met. >> the last time britain spent 2.5, of course, was in 2010, with labour. now we will do that as part of the getting to grips with the challenges that we face. so we will launch next week. the prime minister will launch a strategic defence review. it's the way we get to gnps review. it's the way we get to grips with the threats we face, the capabilities we need for the future, the state of our armed forces and also the state of the pubuc forces and also the state of the public finances. when we open the books, we will set alongside that a clear pathway to meeting that a clear pathway to meeting that commitment of 2.5% on of on defence. >> well, those comments from john healey come as sir keir starmer is in washington today for a nato summit. he's pushing

allies to invest more in defence. it's the first time he'll line up with other world leaders as prime minister, opening the nato summit in washington, us president joe biden insisted the alliance is more powerful than ever. >> an overwhelming bipartisan majority of americans understand that nato makes us all safer. the fact that both democratic and republican parties are represented here today is a testament to that fact . the testament to that fact. the american people know that all the progress we've made in the past 75 years has happened behind the shield of nato and the american people understand what would happen if there was no nato . no nato. >> meanwhile, in the us, donald trump is challenging president biden to another head to head debate this week. speaking at a rally in florida, trump offered to face off without moderators and said it was a chance for biden to redeem himself. that's after biden stumbling performance in the first debate that raised concerns among some

democrats, with talk that he could be replaced as their nominee. trump, though, described it as the most decisive and overwhelming defeat in the history of presidential debates. >> let's do another debate this week so that sleepy joe biden can prove to everyone all over the world that he has what it takes to be president . but the world that he has what it takes to be president. but this time it will be man to man. no moderators, no holds barred. just name the place any time, anywhere . anywhere. >> israel says it is looking into reports that almost 30 people have been killed in an airstrike at a refugee camp in southern gaza. the strike hit a school turned shelter, according to palestinian medical officials . to palestinian medical officials. however, israeli forces claim that it was hitting a hamas fighter from the 7th of october attacks. it comes as advancing tanksin attacks. it comes as advancing tanks in gaza have now forced thousands to flee as israel's ground assault continues there and talks aimed at bringing about a ceasefire are expected to resume later today . about a ceasefire are expected

to resume later today. in about a ceasefire are expected to resume later today . in sport, to resume later today. in sport, thousands of england fans are in dortmund in germany ahead of tonight's euro 2024 semi—final against the netherlands. but the brits are expected to be outnumbered by the dutch. it's thought there could be four times as many opposition supporters out on the streets of dortmund tonight. gareth southgate's side are pushing for a place in the final against spain on sunday. and if you're a shrek fan, well, there's good news. there's going to be a shrek five. >> well, at least we know where the princess is. but where's the dragon ? dragon? >> mike myers, eddie murphy, and cameron diaz well, they're all coming back for the new instalment, but there's no word on on antonio banderas returning as puss in boots. the fifth instalment is due to land in cinemas in july 2026. that's 16 years, would you believe, since the last sequel came out and 25 years from the original premiere? those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm

sam francis polly middlehurst. we'll have your next update at half past three now though. have a good afternoon . a good afternoon. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon mark dolan with you for the next three hours, and police are still urgently searching for the key suspect, 26 year old kyle clifford , in the triple murder clifford, in the triple murder of three women in hertfordshire. the victims are believed to be the wife and daughters of bbc racing commentator john hunt. racing commentatorjohn hunt. >> that would be his 61 year old wife, carol, and his daughters hannah and louise, aged 28 and 25 respectively. police say that all three women were killed in a targeted incident. well, i can

now speak to local residents in bushey in hertfordshire. paul richards , paul, thank you for richards, paul, thank you for joining . us. joining. us. >> thanks. thanks for inviting me on. >> mr richards, your reaction to this story? >> it's heartbreaking. it's shocking. and you know, anybody that knows the area of north bushey, will know that it's a quiet, leafy suburb. that it's, you know, the most, crime that we usually would see is graffiti or flytipping. and this is just abhorrent . abhorrent. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> how? well known were the family in the area? do you know? >> so there are, there are certainly neighbours, found them a very friendly family. i don't necessarily want to talk about the family specifically because i think they they should really,

be treated as the police have asked with privacy, but my heart goes out to them, my heart goes out to the friends and family of those affected . those affected. >> i understand, paul, you're a councillor as well, and all of the locals will be very keen to help the police in this manhunt, won't they? >> absolutely. yeah. i mean, to repeat the police advice. if you do see, the suspect, if you do see carl clifford to ring 999, and. yeah we have local, safer neighbourhood teams, in, in situ helping those residents that are, understandably shocked by these, this incident and i suppose paul, much like the rest of london and the south east, there's plenty of cctv. >> camera technology in bushey as well . as well. >> absolutely. yeah i certainly

from, campaigning in the in the area. i'm aware that there will be quite a few ring doorbells , be quite a few ring doorbells, outside people's houses, i'm sure the police will be, will be asking for any, any, any footage that could be helpful . that could be helpful. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> and tell me about the community spirit in bushey. >> i mean, is it a place where neighbours talk to each other? >> absolutely. it's where community comes together. whilst this is deeply shocking and horrific, i'm sure given time, the community will heal, they will help each other. they will be there for each other, the neighbouring, church, saint paul's, which is just across the road, have opened their doors, as well as, saint james, which is further up in bushey , to is further up in bushey, to anyone that's, that's struggling, anyone that that needs, to, just come together

and, and spend time and bushey will mourn, but we will heal. is bushey a big town? >> how well populated is it? >> how well populated is it? >> so it's, it's a large, it's a large settlement. it's one of four settlements in, hertsmere , four settlements in, hertsmere, the borough that i, i represent on the council, it's quite a sprawling. it's quite a sprawling. it's quite a sprawling area, this particular part of north bushey is very close to. to watford indeed . close to. to watford indeed. many, many people will work in watford, which is just down the road. it's a, you know, it's a leafy suburb, and, you know, the, community is, is strong . the, community is, is strong. it's a, it's a it's a resilient community. and i'm, i'm confident that we, we will all heal. heal >> most definitely. my thanks there to local resident paul

richards, who is also a councillor. thank you paul. let's now speak to the former head of the national counter terrorism security office, chris phillips. mr phillips , welcome phillips. mr phillips, welcome to the program. how optimistic will the police be at catching this man in the hours ahead? >> oh, well, they'll be very keen to catch this man and very confident they will do. >> i think the only way that he's going to stay on the run for long is if someone's helping him and hiding him. >> and, those people need to know that if they do that, then they're going to get a long prison sentence as well . prison sentence as well. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> let's take a look at some of the specifics here. this is a specialist search team at work and armed officers, which demonstrates the gravity of the situation . situation. >> yeah. of course. i mean, the man's committed three murders, by the looks of it. >> so the officers would be very right to carry firearms , right to carry firearms, >> he may well decide that he's not going to get arrested and go down fighting, in which case firearms may be needed . the key

firearms may be needed. the key thing is that the police will be trying to identify all the locations that this man's got contacts with friends, you know, people that know him that might, that might owe him a favour, >> and of course, family. >> and of course, family. >> and then be going through those one by one to try and identify where he might be, because, you know, the man now is photograph is everywhere, right? >> across all the all the media. >> across all the all the media. >> he's not going to be on the run long unless he's holed up in someone's house. >> most definitely. >> most definitely. >> is there any possibility, chris phillips, that this man has absconded abroad ? has absconded abroad? >> i mean, that's always feasible, of course, you know, he's had a few hours now to get overseas , but i think, very overseas, but i think, very quickly they would have put this name on, on the watch list if you like, at the ports. so he would then have to find a means of getting across, across the channel without, without using his passport effectively. >> so, so i think, i think the

most likelihood is that he's nearby. >> generally, that's what happens. people stay nearby in areas that they know and within areas that they know and within a day or so, he'll be found. it's just, obviously the police will want to do that as soon as possible , possible, >> to what extent will cctv and number plate recognition technology and even ring doorbells be part of this search? >> chris. >> chris. >> yeah, times have changed very quickly, actually . quickly, actually. >> most people now have got a ring doorbell. >> it's or something similar, cctv , obviously across all the cctv, obviously across all the town centres. there incredible amount of cctv out there now , amount of cctv out there now, you know, on buses and things like that. >> and, the police now have to go through all of that bit by bit to try and locate where he may have gone, you know, and if he's if he's taken a car, then, as you say , anpr is a very as you say, anpr is a very useful tool. >> but that car will be traced very quickly if he's in vehicle. >> and of course, chris, we can't rule out that this man who the police fear is armed, potentially with a crossbow and

other weapons, we can't rule out that he could harm the public andindeed that he could harm the public and indeed himself. >> yeah, the state does seem to be like a targeted attack on on a family . a family. >> that tragedy for that family. so, you know, there's less chance that he will attack other people. but of course, now he's getting desperate. he he knows that if he gets caught and he gets convicted and he committed these crimes, then he's going to serve a very long time, possibly the rest of his life in prison. so he will not want to get caught now. >> and, it's going to be very difficult for him to stay on the run for long in england, >> and if he's going to get abroad, then he's he's going to have to try that. but, yeah, he is a dangerous man. he's clearly killed people by the sounds of it . and, he needs to be arrested. >> chris, thank you so much. >> chris, thank you so much. >> former head of the national counter terrorism security office, chris phillips. now, let's head over to our gb news national reporter , theo national reporter, theo chikomba, who is at the scene.

and, theo, what is the atmosphere like in bushey with a community reeling from this devastating tragedy ? devastating tragedy? >> it's they'll actually be going for their pick up now. we're seeing lots of cars coming and leaving this area, but there's still a huge police presence and people are still coming to terms with what's happened as well. we know there's that manhunt taking place not just here in bushey, near watford, but right across london and in hertfordshire. but i can say that we're kindly joined this afternoon by sophia, who lives nearby. sophia, just tell me, what you heard last night and how close you live to where this incident took place. >> so the flat i live in is on the top floor, and i have a clear, almost bird's eye view of the property and of the road. >> so we from last night up until this morning have had nothing but absolute commotion, sirens, helicopters circling the area. and as you can imagine,

just pure chaos. >> and how do you feel about it, considering you live quite close in proximity to where it happened? >> well, i think everyone is feeling so on edge . i mean, i feeling so on edge. i mean, i feeling so on edge. i mean, i feel just anxious really , feel just anxious really, because if something like this can happen in such proximity, you never really feel safe. >> and just with all the police here, i suppose you all in this community just want some kind of answer to know what's happened. and how pleased are you of the response that you've seen so far? >>i far? >> i think it's great that all the community is coming together. you know, news coverage has been national of this incident because of how heinous it is. but one thing thatis heinous it is. but one thing that is alarming to us all is that is alarming to us all is that he is still out there and there is nothing stopping him from doing this. again, how long have you lived here, and have you seen anything like this in this community? so i've lived in my flat for over a year now, and it's been nothing but quiet and peaceful. there's never any cause for concern, never anything alarming in this area, which is why this is so out of

the ordinary . the ordinary. >> sophia, thank you so much for your time . well, as you heard your time. well, as you heard from sophia, she did hear and see something last night here in this neighbourhood. and just like her coming to terms with what's happening here in this area. but what we do know is that the police are continuing their search for the 26 year old suspect, and that will continue until they find him . until they find him. >> thank you. theo. well coming up, a lot more on the manhunt for suspected killer kyle clifford, who is believed by police to be armed. so we'll bnng police to be armed. so we'll bring you the latest on that and live in the studio . the former live in the studio. the former deputy chairman of the conservative party on who should lead the tories

next. i'm mark dolan. welcome back. now, throughout the show, we'll be bringing you the latest on the manhunt for suspected triple murderer kyle clifford, who is believed by police to be armed. so more on that shortly. but suella braverman is the public's favourite to replace rishi sunak as the leader of the conservative party. according to an opinion poll conducted by jl partners exclusively for gb news, the former home secretary holds a slender one point lead over her nearest rival, former security minister tom tugendhat. but a whopping 61% of the public don't know who the next conservative leader should be. meanwhile among current conservative party voters , conservative party voters, suella bravermans lead over tugendhat increases to 5. she's also 10% ahead of fellow former home secretary priti patel and former minister of state for immigration robert jenrick. well, in just a moment we'll be speaking to the former deputy

chairman of the conservative party, jonathan gullis. but first gb news political correspondent olivia utley. olivia, it's going to get messy, isn't it ? the blame game has isn't it? the blame game has begun, as has the civil war within the tory party. >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> for about two days after the election, conservatives were very contritely saying that they needed to spend a few weeks thinking about it and just not rushing into any decisions, but very, very quickly. actually, we are seeing new potential leaders jostling around on manoeuvres, as they call it, definitely pitching themselves for the leadership. this new poll, this exclusive poll by jl partners for gb news, it's good news for suella braverman, i suppose, and that she is technically the public's favourite to be the next conservative leader. but it's not great for the conservatives generally. yes, she's the favourite, but she only 10% of people would like to see her as the next leader, followed by tom tugendhat on 9. an astonishing 61% don't know at all. so the conservatives have a huge uphill battle in trying to

get people to believe that any of them, anyone in their ranks, should be the next prime minister and that's without all the infighting, which, as you say, i think we can predict with certainty. >> most definitely . >> most definitely. >> most definitely. >> and braverman may be ahead in terms of the popular vote at the moment, but that's not the case, and that's not public opinion on those tory back benches. is it because the tory backbenchers are not that keen on suella braverman? many are angry that even before election day came that she was criticising the campaign and more or less conceding well, exactly. >> lots of conservatives are worried about how outspoken suella braverman has been and her sort of words about nigel farage before the election, although she, you know, she wasn't suggesting that she was going to join reform. i don't think that is a likely scenario, but she was saying that nigel farage should be welcomed back into the party with open arms. plenty of conservative mps do believe that, but there are plenty who don't as well. and actually of the sort of rump of conservative mps who remain, which is 121. if you do a breakdown of sort of roughly what their politics are obviously quite difficult to do, it's all very complicated ,

it's all very complicated, nuanced, but most of them are centrists and probably wouldn't be that interested in suella braverman. the other thing which i think is worth mentioning is that whoever does get elected as conservative leader will then have a really tricky time on their hands as well. we've seen over the last you know, ten, 15 years how conservatives really enjoy ousting a leader. and with so few conservatives just 121, it only takes 15% of the party to trigger a vote of no confidence in a leader. these days, with just 121 mps, that's only 18 mps. so whoever's chosen will right from the get go, right from the start, being a pretty precarious situation , pretty precarious situation, particularly with such a divided party at each other's throats . party at each other's throats. so broadchurch, really, really tncky so broadchurch, really, really tricky for whoever gets the job. >> well, with me in the studio is the former deputy chairman of the conservative party and ex—mp jonathan gully. jonathan, good to see you. hi, mark. >> how are you? >> how are you? >> i'm very, very well. do you think the next leader of the conservative party should go to bed with nigel farage? >> no .

>> no. >> no. >> why not? >> why not? >> because i'm not interested in being reform light. i'm also not being reform light. i'm also not being interested in being lib dem light. i'm interested in the conservative party being the centre right conservative party that i joined back in 2008 as an 18 year old lad. and be perfectly frank, if you let nigel farage into the conservative party, nigel farage is going to do one thing seek to take it over, therefore create division for further inside. he will be our jeremy corbyn if we bnng will be our jeremy corbyn if we bring him into the conservative party. and as someone who is a fan of nigel in many ways, particularly what he did over brexit, someone who likes him and has certainly got a positive relationship with him. indeed, at one stage before he came and frankly took 100 of my colleagues out of seats that didn't need to lose their seats, was willing for him and hoping he would join the conservative party on the basis that he wasn't seeking to destroy the conservatives as richard tice was. but he's made his bed. he now needs to lie in it, and the conservatives need to draw a line in the sand. >> however, i wonder if suella braverman is quite smart talking about nigel and playing the nigel card, because if the conservatives don't engage with nigel farage and indeed reform

uk, they can kiss goodbye to those 4 million voters in five years time, can't they? >> what we need to do is talk about the issues and make sure we have a clear and decisive plan about what we would do as a conservative government that will attract those 4 million plus voters who went to reform . plus voters who went to reform. look at stoke on trent, my own seat. okay, i lost by 5000 odd votes. reform got 8800. now, i don't lazily presume every single one would have voted conservative. but if you go on the maths of those who voted brexit party staying at home, the 7% who are most pollster said voted came from labour. i would have been within 500 to 1000 votes, potentially holding my seat. i look at my colleagues, jack brereton in stoke south. he lost by 650 votes. reform took 8000 votes. these are seats that didn't need to go. people like jack and myself who believed. in fact, i put a bill on the floor of the house of commons to say we should ignore the european court of human rights when it came to the rwanda flights. i got sir keir starmer to come from the leader of the opposition's office as it was back then, to come vote against it. what has nigel done? nigel has made sure that we've got a labour party with a whopping majority, where you've got sir patrick vallance and now labour minister today

talking on the bbc's airwaves, saying that he wants us to do a deal with the eu around free movement, that he was angry about brexit and that we should liberalise our visa rules. that's what reform has done to our country and they need to own up to it. >> if the conservatives choose a centrist candidate like tom tugendhat, that's proof that their the party's not listening to the public, isn't it? >> i actually think it's quite unfair to call tom a centrist. i would say centre right. i think he's a conservative. he's always been very firm in my conversations. >> would he take the uk out of the echr, for example? well, look, i doubt tom would do that. >> i don't think i've ever heard him suggest that before, but i'm all up for having centrist to me then. well, i would certainly say that we have to make the case to leave, and i'm certainly someone who absolutely believes we should leave the echr, but i believe we have to make that argument and win that with the country now. dom cummings famously said he thinks that would be the easiest campaign to run, because there's plenty of case law to show exactly why we shouldn't allow a strasbourg court to stop us from deporting foreign murderers, rapists, paedophiles and terrorists. but of course, you have to make the case. you have to show people

why it's important that we do that. and i would like to think any leader would at least very much look at that possibility. but yes, look, tom and 1's politics, you know, differ in the margins. i think that's what's important here. we're not left or right. we're conservatives and we spent far too long tearing each other's throats out. and i was as guilty as many for falling into those same arguments in the tea rooms, in the whatsapp groups. >> and i regret that i want to bnng >> and i regret that i want to bring olivia in in one second. but you mentioned tearing each other's throats out. you've got kemi badenoch, the former business secretary, accusing suella braverman, former home secretary, of having a nervous breakdown. it's already turned ugly, hasn't it? >> well, look, these are comments that were allegedly made in a meeting of the shadow cabinet. i obviously wasn't there. >> i was no love lost between those two people. >> but look, i think ultimately it's not. the comments like that aren't helpful. if indeed that was what was said. i think it's best that we play with a straight bat. i wrote an expert piece in express this week saying that i want our leader installed ahead of labour's first budget, ideally with the winner announced at party conference, because i don't want the first time, and probably only time this year the conservatives will get any television time to be us when

we're debating and arguing, i want us to showing us that united face with a brand new party, because that's 61% of people who said they don't know who they want to be. leader is a huge opportunity for to us rebrand, to refresh and to resell conservatism . resell conservatism. >> neither of us can stand up. the kemi badenoch allegation about a nervous breakdown, but what we do know is that suella braverman has been very critical of the tories campaign. she did that before polling day, which has angered many of your colleagues in the conservative party. well, there you go. and then you've also got a situation where suella braverman has said that robert jenrick is a lefty. i mean, this is unseemly , isn't it? >> this is why she's not suitable to be the leader of the conservative party. >> are you withdrawing your support for braverman already? >> i will not be. if braverman is on the final two, i won't be supporting her. it doesn't necessarily mean i'll vote for the other one. i may well support my ballot. i look forward to seeing you not care what our viewers think, because they do care what your viewers think . but they do care what your viewers think. but the they do care what your viewers think . but the viewers said, they do care what your viewers think. but the viewers said, i think. but the viewers said, i think it was about 10% at best. who supported her. as i say, 61% say don't know. suella and i

probably agree on many of the issues.i probably agree on many of the issues. i will happily have a discussion debate with her on those type of topics. how she presents the arguments is too divisive, will not unite the conservative party, and because of her actions, the way she spoke when she left a government office under rishi sunak, the fact she was writing articles two days before polling day, machine gunning, the conservative party when i was trying to convince reform voters on doorsteps not to lend their votes in order for me to keep my job, simply doesn't fly. >> the conservative the reform party managed to win five seats, many of them, as you say, those votes might have gone to the conservative party, but the lib dems won 72 seats and quite a lot of those seats were in sort of blue heartland areas. what would you say to the colleagues in your party who say, actually what we need to be doing if we want to get voters back on board, is to tack to the left, not tax the right. let's stop talking about brexit. let's stop talking about brexit. let's stop talking about brexit. let's stop talking about the leaving the echr. let's move lib dems. >> i think nick timothy did a superb article on you mp in west suffolk. if i recall correctly , suffolk. if i recall correctly, who said that it's not about left and it's not about right,

it's just about being conservative. we don't need to be lib dem lite. we do not need to be reform lite. we need to be conservatives. we need to have a very clear and distinctive plan that will mean at times that there'll be a cigarette paper between us and reform on some issues. that will mean at other times there'll be a cigarette paper between us and the liberal democrats. but we are the natural party of government. the most successful, successful electoral force this country has seen, as well as the world. we need to make sure, therefore, we make those clear and distinctive arguments, but rebuild trust that when we say we're going to do something, we're going to deliver this election was about a failure to deliver on the promises that we made in 2019, robert jenrick said something quite similar to nick timothy when he was writing in the sunday times. >> he said that it's not about left or right, it's about proving that we can deliver as the conservative party, and he, he talked about how the government failed to deliver on nhs waiting lists on immigration, etc, but how is the conservative party supposed to prove that it can deliver while it's in opposition? >> so i think, first of all, what we have to do is go through this leadership contest, select

someone that we ensure that the parliamentary party and our members will rally behind. >> we then need to work internally with our conservative campaign headquarters to fix what is a creaky machine. i think is fair to say volunteers morale is in the ground. they had bruising 2023 local elections, bruising 2024 local elections, bruising 2024 local elections straight into a general election that was even more painful for many. the blisters are still healing on the bottom of my feet. but next yean the bottom of my feet. but next year, if you look at may 2025, there's only one labour led local authority that's up for election. the rest are overwhelmingly conservative controlled now in those areas along the suffolk coast, where we know reform have done well, many in the southwest as well, where the liberal democrats have done a decent job. we need to get our act together quickly, get our act together quickly, get our act together quickly, get our activists re—energized, have a clear and distinctive offer early on for these local elections to retain as many conservative councillors as we can, and then we need to really spend time listening, going around the country, hearing what people have got to say, understand why so many people felt they couldn't lend us their

vote because it wasn't just those who went to reform lib dem. there was an awful lot of people who sat at home. my seats were 51.8% turnout in stoke central. it was 47.99. there's a lot of apathy out there. if we can convince those people who sat on their backside , sat on their backside, understandably, that now is the time to come out and once again lend us their vote, then we'll be able to take a couple of seconds. >> if you were to adopt, because it's my view that reform uk are more or less a single issue party. at least they have been in the election . it's in the election. it's immigration. nigel farage said it was the immigration election. why don't you just quite literally photocopy and commit to reform uk's policies on migration, which is an end to non—essential immigration into the country, and stop the boats unilaterally? why don't you adopt those policies and then you see off the threat of reform because markets, populists at its best. >> and what i mean by that is that it's just these are things that it's just these are things that are easily said , but that are easily said, but actually practically very hard to deliver and not based in any real reality. and in fact, they got themselves tied in knots throughout the election campaign about who would be exempt, for example, nhs staff. yes or no? social care staff, yes or no. so

i'm not interested in copying anyone else's reform. i'm trying to take our voters. they're trying to copy and paste what we've been doing. it's now time for us to stand up for our principles. >> okay. >> okay. >> well, listen, great to see you again. i look forward to seeing what you do next. i think there'll be some broadcasting i hope so, bit of business as well. and probably still some politics. right >> absolutely. i'm hoping to stay involved and help this party rebuild and be ready, not just the local elections next may, but to make sure we take power back in 2029. okay. >> come back and see us soon. former deputy chairman of the conservative party, jonathan gullis. i've only got two seconds on this. olivia 10s, if you like. did we just witness the former home secretary suella braverman being thrown under the bus by the former deputy leader? >> well, i think suella braverman is becoming increasingly unpopular. i would be quite surprised if she did make it into the final two, with people like jonathan gullis not supporting her from outside parliament. >> extraordinary interview. well, lots more to come. sir keir starmer is in washington in his first major test of foreign policy, as he meets president joe biden for the first time. is the special relationship safe in labour's hands? and is keir starmer right that joe biden isn't too old? we'll debate that

next. plus, all of latest in the manhunt suspected killer kyle clifford.

next. well, in just a moment. next. well, in just a moment . all of well, in just a moment. all of the latest in the search for kyle clifford. the chief suspect in the hertfordshire triple murder. don't forget, this is a 26 year old on the run. police fear that he has a crossbow and potentially other weapons. they are searching bushey, where the triple murder happened. that's in hertfordshire. but they're also looking at north london at an address in enfield . we'll an address in enfield. we'll bnng an address in enfield. we'll bring you more on that shortly. also, the prime minister keir starmer, i'm going to have to get used to that sentence. prime minister keir starmer is now in washington and he'll be meeting with president joe biden. and so later in the show , we'll be later in the show, we'll be having a look at whether or not the special relationship is safe in the hands of labour. but in an extraordinary development,

we've got a statement from keir starmer saying that he does not think that president joe biden is too old. well, i'd beg to differ. anyone that watched that head to head debate between him and donald trump, which has seen left wing news anchors in america calling for then i think i disagree with the prime minister. i think that joe biden's best days are behind him. but we'll get to that story shortly. meanwhile, let's get the latest in the search for kyle clifford and our reporter charlie peters joins me now . charlie peters joins me now. charlie, the great concern is that this man is on the run. he's murdered three people and he may be armed. >> that's right. mark on the run. a significant manhunt operation underway now, a joint effort between the metropolitan police and the hertfordshire constabulary. and we're just getting news in the last few moments that kyle clifford, this chief suspect and the man they are hunting, was briefly in the

british army for a possibly two years, up to 2022. he's then working in private security as his most recent form of employment. so this is the second significant manhunt conducted by the police around london involving a former soldier. we also had that breakout from wandsworth prison. you'll remember in the last year from a soldier formerly in the royal corps of signals, that soldier evaded police capture for some time. that might point to why this manhunt is going on now . for 20 hours since the now. for 20 hours since the incident yesterday evening, 7 pm. in bushey, when that triple murder took place. we don't know which cap badge , which regiment which cap badge, which regiment or corps that kyle clifford served in, but we do understand that he was in the british army. that's what's being reported at the moment. now, also of concern, obviously, to the police is that he is possibly armed, reportedly with a crossbow. the weapon used in those attacks yesterday . now, at

those attacks yesterday. now, at the same time, that's why we've seen significant numbers of armed response vehicles and specialist armed officers in enfield, where we've seen them conducting those searches. that's important not only for offensive reasons. if they are put under threat by a man armed with a crossbow, but also defensive reasons, because speaking to police officers since this story broke earlier this morning, they've said that crossbows are a copper's worst nightmare. they point towards so many of these bolts, including the broad's head bolts used for hunting big game, being able to break through the standard armour used by police officers on the front line. meanwhile, the armed response units, those specialist firearms officers, they have more significant armour plating so they're able to be better placed to deal with these incidents. even the territorial support group, the specialist riot police of the met police, are understood to be particularly concerned about crossbows. one police officer who serves in that unit told me

that they don't even trust their riot shields to block bolts fired from some of the crossbows available in this country. also in the last hour, i've spoken to a victim of a crossbow attack from 2018, she told me that it was extremely scary to think that so many of these weapons are still on the streets while the police conduct this manhunt. now, crossbows, unlike firearms, aren't subject to licensing system restrictions. the only restriction on purchasing a crossbow is age. you need to be 18 to purchase a crossbow of a particular strength. meanwhile, for firearms such as shotguns, you need to go through the licensing process and be assessed by the police and other government authorities. now, the home office opened a consultation on this in february. it closed in early april, but we've not had a response from the government since then, particularly with the changing administration since the election was called. in the end of may. so this

manhunt ongoing as we speak, involving two different police authorities as they search both hertfordshire and north london. >> thank you so much for filling us in. we'll bring you more on this manhunt for 26 year old kyle clifford. the police have not been able to rule out that this man is being helped by friends or family. he may have absconded abroad, but the main focus is to track him down and find him, because he may well be armed with a crossbow, which is the what's considered to have been potentially the weapon that saw the death of three women . saw the death of three women. last night at 7:00, the police turned up all three women were badly injured, but not dead on the point of arrival. but ultimately they lost their lives. so we'll bring you more on that manhunt. and also england, of course, playing the netherlands tonight. we'll be heading to germany .

next. welcome back. well the manhunt continues for 26 year old kyle clifford, who is feared to have murdered three women last night in bushey in middlesex. the police believe he may be armed with a crossbow and potentially other weapons. we've got specialist search teams and armed officers securing areas around enfield and indeed the murder crime, the murder scene, which is bushy, what about this? that bbc five live racing commentatorjohn hunt is, of course, the man who was married to one of the murder victims, his 26 year old wife and his two daughters, as well . it is

daughters, as well. it is alleged that mr hunt returned home from work to find the three women seriously injured. they were subsequently pronounced dead at the scene . ambulances dead at the scene. ambulances arrived whilst they were injured, but ultimately they lost their lives, so the manhunt continues. we'll get more intel on that shortly, but let's take a look now at something rather more positive. and that's the football. do england have a date with destiny? the three lions take on the netherlands in dortmund this evening for a place in the final of euro 2024 against spain. this is a live shot of downing street , adorned shot of downing street, adorned with england flags and bunting. the prime minister might be in washington, but he's made his support for gareth southgate's team very clear. well, let's now speak to gb news reporterjack carson , who is on the ground in carson, who is on the ground in dortmund and joined by sports broadcaster chris skudder. well, jack, great to see you . what's

jack, great to see you. what's the atmosphere like? i can hear the atmosphere like? i can hear the singing . the singing. >> well, honestly i think it's just easier if we just get you to turn the camera around because honestly, just look at the fans here. this is the train station here at dortmund and you can see the sea of orange, but also these england fans that are turning up. i mean, these england fans are outnumbered by their thousands, but they are still making their voices heard far more louder than the dutch at the moment. if you head further into dortmund town centre , it is just a sea of centre, it is just a sea of orange shirts. but right now, where we are at the train station, we've got these england fans that are turning up here in dortmund ready for that semi—final . of course it's a big semi—final. of course it's a big test for gareth southgate. big test for gareth southgate. big test for gareth southgate. big test for england. a lot of people said that they were very surprised that england have made it this far because of how maybe poorly we have played so far in this tournament, but of course gareth southgate has been able to do it so far. he's been in this position before. of course, england made it to the final back in 2021 at that european championship, so looking to make

it two tournaments in a row. speaking in their press conference yesterday, both southgate and harry kane very clear that they know that there is pressure on them, but they know they can learn from those previous, previous experiences of pressure as well . big of pressure as well. big selection headache really for gareth southgate in many different ways because luke shaw, our left back who is fit for the first time in 139 days, fit enough to play a bit of time in the quarter final. fit enough to play a bit of time in the quarterfinal. he fit enough to play a bit of time in the quarter final. he is now fully fit again. he says he says he's ready to play 90 minutes. so does he stick him straight in? he admitted in the press conference yesterday gareth southgate that luke shaw does give us more balance. does he stick to three at the back, which is a formation which he switched with just to play the switzerland side. that may well match up the netherlands side a little bit easier as well. and what does he do about defender mark gay? he was a starter from the group stages, of course. got suspended because of picking up too many yellow cards and so he had to replace him with ezri konsa, who equally was played as well as gay. so a few selection

headaches. there for gareth southgate. as part as part of his team selection tonight. so we will of course wait to see, wait to see what of course he chooses tonight. but if we just swing the camera around again, just so you can really get a feel, you know, for the atmosphere here with all these england fans and all these dutch fans that are coming in from the train station, 80,000 dutch fans are jack carson it is in this. >> it is coming home. >> it is coming home. >> brilliant stuff. >> brilliant stuff. >> thank you jack, we'll catch up with you shortly. >> come on england, i'm optimistic for victory tonight. i think it's the bounce of the country . could do with. in the country. could do with. in the next hour, i'll be joined by a criminologist on the latest on the manhunt for triple killer kyle clifford. plus, would britain be less safe under a labour government? well, we speak to a top labour mp regarding defence spending. lots to get through. see you shortly . to get through. see you shortly. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb

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>> well . >> well. >> well. >> it's 4:00, and this is mark dolan for in martin daubney. a busy two hours to come, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and across the uk. and a new development in the uk. and a new development in the triple murder manhunt. it has emerged that the 26 year old suspect, kyle clifford , served suspect, kyle clifford, served in the british army as recently as 2022. the victims are reported as the wife and daughters of a bbc racing commentator. we'll bring you all the latest on this story. this is a man who's on the run. the

police are concerned he may be armed . also in this hour is armed. also in this hour is britain safe under a labour government as the new prime minister, sir keir starmer, refuses to commit to a timeline for increasing defence spending. is the country exposed to foreign attack? i'll be asking a top labour mp very shortly . plus top labour mp very shortly. plus the tories psychodrama rumbles on and the blame game continues as kemi badenoch blasts rishi sunaks election strategy . just sunaks election strategy. just who should lead the party next will bring top analysis . and will bring top analysis. and we'll head live to germany for all of the build up to england's crunch semi—final game against the netherlands in germany. come on england, it's coming home. a packed hour ahead .

packed hour ahead. and you can share your views to the programme. just go to gbnews.com/yoursay more on that manhunt. but first the news headunes manhunt. but first the news headlines and polly middlehurst. >> let's bring you the latest news headlines from the gb newsroom. and the home secretary is urgently considering the findings of a home office review to see if tougher crossbow laws need to be introduced in the country in the wake of the deaths of the wife and two daughters of bbc racing commentator john daughters of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt, police found the three women, aged 25, 28 and 61, just before 7:00 last night in what they believe was a targeted attack. officers are urging the public to not approach their main suspect, kyle clifford, who's been on the run since yesterday evening. it's emerged he served in the british army in 2022. let's show

you live pictures from hertfordshire and indeed the street where those people were found dead . residents who live found dead. residents who live close to the murder scene have described the incident as tragic and disturbing. chief superintendent john simpson says significant numbers of police have now been deployed in hertfordshire and north london. >> our overarching objective today is to protect public safety and to locate kyle clifford, who is wanted in connection with the murder of the three women in what we believe is a targeted incident. we have extensive police resources deployed to various locations in north london and also the bushey area of hertfordshire. the manhunt also involves armed police officers and specialist search teams responding at pace. in the wake of what has been an horrific incident involving what is currently believed to be a crossbow. but other weapons may also have been used. >> as well as that manhunt for

kyle clifford continues locals have been reacting to the tragedy, telling gb news it's shaken the community because this is such as everyone is saying, such a quiet area, such a safe place where there's never been any sort of cause for concern now, for something so heinous to have happened in such close proximity to all of us, we're all very on edge. >> i've never seen so many police in my life that they're crazy . absolutely crazy. crazy. absolutely crazy. >> the deaths of three ladies in the same household is incredibly regrettable, and it's very shocking and scaring for local people . people. >> now, in other news today, a second man has been arrested as part of an investigation into a small boat. people smuggling network. the national crime agency says the 25 year old iraqi national was apprehended this morning at an address in preston in lancashire . he was preston in lancashire. he was detained on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and obtaining leave to remain in the uk by deception. it follows

the uk by deception. it follows the arrest of iranian national in preston as well in may. now the prime minister is promising a review of the uk's defence and security, which could see the size of the armed forces increase. his manifesto indeed promised to spend 2.5% of the uk's gdp on the defence budget, but he's refused to guarantee the government will meet that promise within his first term. instead he's pledging to keep the uk's defences strong without breaking his spending and borrowing rules . the defence borrowing rules. the defence secretary, john healey, says the review will determine when the manifesto commitment is met. >> the last time britain spent 2.5, of course, was in 2010 with laboun 2.5, of course, was in 2010 with labour. now we will do that as part of the getting to grips with the challenges that we face, so we will launch next week. the prime minister will launch a strategic defence review. it's the way we get to gnps review. it's the way we get to grips with the threats we face. the capabilities we need for the future, the state of our armed forces and also the state of the

pubuc forces and also the state of the public finances. when we open the books and we will set alongside that a clear pathway to meeting that commitment of 2.5% on of on defence. >> well, it comes as sir keir starmer has arrived in washington for the 75th nato summit there. joe biden arriving there last night, pushing for ukraine's agenda against russia. well, the prime minister says he's pushing the allies to invest more in defence, and it's the first time he'll line up with other world leaders as prime minister thousands of england fans are in dortmund in germany for tonight's euro 2024 semi—final against the dutch, but the brits expected to be outnumbered. we understand it's thought there could be four times more opposition supporters out tonight. gareth southgate's side are pushing for a place in the final against spain on sunday. >> easy game , i'll say easy. >> easy game, i'll say easy. >> easy game, i'll say easy. >> probably going to be pens,

but obviously we'll win because that's what we're good at. >> you've seen the last game with switzerland, you know baby food. >> easy. >> easy. >> yeah i'm excited for the semi—finals. it's going well so far. hopefully it can get better. >> i won't take nothing away from the dutch. >> they got van dijk, that's about it. >> but you know we'll give it the best i mean movie news. >> and guess what? there's going to be a new shrek five. >> well at least we know where the princess is. but where's the dragon ? dragon? >> mike myers, eddie murphy and cameron diaz all coming back for the new instalment, but there's no word on antonio banderas yet. returning as puss in boots, the fifth instalment due to land in our cinemas in july 2026. 16 years since the last sequel came out and 25 years on from the original premiere. and we can't wait . those are the latest gb wait. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct

to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon, mark dolan with you for a busy hour. police are still urgently searching for the chief suspect, 26 year old kyle clifford , in the triple kyle clifford, in the triple murder of three women in hertfordshire. well we've got a new development, which it's believed that clifford served briefly in the british army in 2022. now the victims are the wife and daughters of bbc racing commentator john wife and daughters of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt. it was his 61 year old wife, carole , his 61 year old wife, carole, and his two daughters, hannah and his two daughters, hannah and louise, who were aged 28 and 25 respectively. it's understood that mr hunt actually returned to home find this scene of carnage . they were alive when

carnage. they were alive when the ambulance arrived last night just before 7:00, but died shortly afterwards. police say that all three women were killed in a targeted incident. well, let's get the latest with gb news. national reporter theo chikomba, who is at the scene in bushey. what's the latest? theo >> yes, well, this afternoon we have learned that the suspect, 26 year old, was formerly in the army up until 2022. after serving in the army for a short penod serving in the army for a short period of time, kyle clifford , period of time, kyle clifford, 26 year old, is being looked for by the police in a manhunt here in this area in bushey in hertfordshire and parts of london. he's from the enfield area. there's a huge police presence here. they've been here throughout the day and we've also been speaking to local residents . and this is what one residents. and this is what one of them had to tell us a little earlier. >> so living in the flats

directly opposite the house, we're on the top floor. so we've pretty much had a bird's eye view almost of all the police cars, air ambulance, ambulances, just all the possible commotion, armed police, people in hazmat suits, tents being put up , just suits, tents being put up, just trying to piece everything together . together. >> and what did you hear last night as well? >> so we had just pure commotion, just chaos. >> just, you know , sirens going >> just, you know, sirens going past helicopters since from last night up until this morning. circulating above our flat, just really a range of just chaos. >> and how long did that go on for, sophia? >> honestly, it's been going on since at least 7 pm. last night. up until even now. from our windows, we can still see a lot of police. now, a lot of press from our car park. we're seeing a lot of press going into sort of get as many shots as

they can, from as many angles as they can, from as many angles as they can, from as many angles as they can, and just nothing but noise, really. >> and given what's happened and what's taken place, at that property, and you're a local resident, how does that make you feel safe here? >> i think all locals have just been absolutely robbed of our peace, >> because this is such as everyone is saying, such a quiet area, such a safe place where there's never been any sort of cause for concern now, for something so heinous to have happenedin something so heinous to have happened in such close proximity to all of us, we're all very on edge. >> and how how do you think this is going to affect the local community? >> i think now we're all going to be very alarmed. we're not going to have the same sense of safety or even that community. it feels a little bit broken because you just don't know who you can trust. you know, passing by, there'd always be an exchange of a smile or maybe, you know, a good morning, a greeting, but now you never know who you're speaking to.

>> and just finally, did you know the family, >> very well yourself. >> very well yourself. >> not personally? no. we were just all members of the community. >> well, it was this morning that the police confirmed that the suspect , they believe he's the suspect, they believe he's armed with a crossbow. but this afternoon, we've heard from the home secretary , yvette cooper, home secretary, yvette cooper, who we understand is considering the findings of a home office review to see if tougher crossbow laws are needed . we crossbow laws are needed. we understand from a home office spokesperson saying this is an appalling incident and the home secretary is keeping is being kept up to date by the police, and we keep legislation under constant review and call for evidence was launched earlier this year to look at whether further controls on crossbows would be introduced. so of course we now know what the home secretary is doing considering this is now a national issue that's being looked into by many police forces, because we simply don't know at this moment where

this person could be. but for now, though, police presence is still here, just behind me. we've got the cordon. we're seeing police going in and out of this area, and families who have just picked up their school children coming back. they'll be wondering what's been happening here, especially the younger children who live in this area. it's a quiet area, too not far away from watford. and as you can imagine, many people are still coming to terms with what's happened. and police are urging anyone who has any information to contact them or call 999. >> well, my thanks to gb news national reporter theo chikomba , national reporter theo chikomba, who will return shortly, but let's now get the views of james treadwell, who is a professor of criminology at staffordshire university, professor treadwell, thank you so much for joining us.the thank you so much for joining us. the police believe that a crossbow was used. this crime looks to have been planned .

looks to have been planned. >> similar things. having tracked down and talked to the suspect in the case. >> you know he was a very. >> you know he was a very. >> he was a very normal guy, >> he was a very normal guy, >> i don't like that line of reporting. >> what you tend to find is you know, most violent people are also very, very , very normal. also very, very, very normal. but that violence doesn't come from nowhere. it's often built up and practised and learned over quite an extensive time penod. over quite an extensive time period . and i think it's, you period. and i think it's, you know, it's very, very important we don't fall into that trap of kind of suggesting that this is, you know, this is a normal type of, behaviour, actually, it's very , very abnormal, you know, very, very abnormal, you know, and that that's , that's and that that's, that's important to recognise . important to recognise. >> indeed. now, this is the triple murder of a mother and her two daughters. does this give us a clue, any kind of clue as to what may have motivated this crime ?

this crime? >> yeah, it's i think it's you'd quickly conclude that it's likely that there will be some existing connection between the suspected perpetrator and one of the victims. >> i think it's very, very likely, you know, that there's going to be an a previous relationship there. >> and that's very often likely the backdrop, you know , that's the backdrop, you know, that's without wanting to speculate too much, you know, because then there are other questions that need to be asked, for example, because when things like this happen, you know, and it's true in lots and lots of other types of offences as well, there are often some, some warning signs there. >> there are similarly, you know, there are warning signs in the us for school shootings and so on. so on. >> so on. >> the problem is that a lot of people aren't necessarily able to pick up on what necessarily are those warning signs and things that are the warning signs given off by individuals? >> are sometimes dismissed, you know, but it will be interesting to see whether there has been previous contact with the

authorities, whether there's been previous contact with the police , whether this, you know, police, whether this, you know, because it's very, very rare that extreme acts of violence come out of the blue or out of nowhere, you know, as you say , nowhere, you know, as you say, they're they're often planned and premeditated to some degree. >> you know, it might not necessarily be a tremendous amount of planning, but there's often some degree of planning that's gone into them. and there are often, sometimes some warning signs. in more instances than not, there are warning signs that something bad is going to happen. reacting to those picking them up and taking action is the problem in many ways. >> indeed. so kyle clifford remains on the run after what's believed to be a triple murder professor, is there any way we can imagine or get into the frame of mind of this individual at this stage? do we know what he his emotions will be? his motivations at this stage? >> again, i don't like to

necessarily say that you can, because i think what i would do more so is, is look at the opportunities and the skills base within an individual offender to think about how they might go about evading or trying to avoid justice and for how long. >> and indeed, the police are going to want to apprehend him particularly quickly because he is now a huge risk to members of the public, but also a possibly a very high risk to himself, when similarly, we've seen these sorts of manhunts involving armed perpetrators that they they're not only a risk to the public, but a risk to themselves as well. >> the police will want to apprehend him quickly. this is where things like, you know, your access to vehicles and your social network becomes very , social network becomes very, very important. and it's exactly those things that the police will be looking at in order to try and track him down and find where he is as quickly as as possible . but you know that possible. but you know that there are going to be longer questions. i think, to be asked about how, you know , what about how, you know, what happenedin about how, you know, what happened in the build up to this and how long things were ongoing

for , and whether there were for, and whether there were opportunities to, to to, intervene previously, >> it like i say, it's it can be the case that that things come very, very, very quickly. >> but but more often than not actually there are warning signs that are there. >> of course, the thing is hindsight is always 2020 and it's always easy to say, say, with the benefit of hindsight that this could have been done. >> but we'll learn that inside professor, the suspect already knows that he faces decades in jail. >> if he's brought to justice for these alleged crimes, will this influence his actions at this influence his actions at this stage , this stage, >> i think you know , it will >> i think you know, it will undoubtedly influence the actions of the individual, but in which direction you simply don't know. you know, what tends to happen is, you know, in some instances, individuals become, very kind of insular and very

framed around their own emotions and their own needs and become a very, very high risk to themselves. some simply, attempt to evade detection for as long as they possibly can. we don't, you know, the fact that for example, it's already been suggested that there's military experience in the background here, for example, might might be a significant factor in what the police are thinking about. and of course, they'll quickly be able to pick up and have a better idea than the public will. what's going on? i also suspect the police are probably struggling because information now is released much more quickly sometimes than, than sometimes they would like, for example, about access to a vehicle. i've already seen suggestions of make and model and what was being driven before. that's been kind of officially announced and, and other things, you know, and we live in an information age which, which makes that kind of management of the process of the investigation very, very difficult for the police. and of course, this is only a suspect

at this time as well. you know, it's a it's an ongoing investigation. and they they do have to approach it in that way. although, you know, it might well seem that in identifying and naming a suspect, they've, they've got, you know, we can read the direction that it's going, but, but we won't be being told everything. and i think it's always it's always important to be mindful of that, >> professor treadwell , briefly, >> professor treadwell, briefly, if you can. is there any hope that this individual might hand himself in, or do you think that ship has passed ? ship has passed? >> yeah. no, i think that that can happen, you know, and again, this is where not necessarily knowing about him and his background, it can be significant. you know, the case that i'm always drawn to and minded to on that one is, is the case of dale cregan, who obviously killed the members of the short family and then two police constables before going on the run, creating another huge manhunt. but cregan walked into a police station and gave himself up and in part that was

because, you know, i'm sure he knew the risk that he was at trying to remain at liberty if he , you know, if he carried on he, you know, if he carried on in that course of action, he has armed police looking for him. you know, he's armed and dangerous. so, again, it very much depends on, on, you know, the individual offender and their mindset and circumstances and the authorities will have, will likely have more of an insight into that than, than anybody else. and we'll be trying to piece that together even now . so it's possible. even now. so it's possible. okay. but the longer that you move, the less likely i think that that is , james, thank you that that is, james, thank you so much. >> my thanks there to james treadwell, who is the professor of criminology at staffordshire university. well, more to come on the manhunt for carl clifford. he's 26 years of age. police believe that he's responsible for a triple murder in bushey in hertfordshire. two locations are being looked at at

the moment and searched, that is bushey and the surrounding area, and also north london and enfield. so more on that very shortly. but next up is britain's safe under a labour government as the new prime minister, sir keir starmer, refuses to commit to a timeline for increased defence spending. i'll be speaking to a leading labour mp

next. mark dolan with you for the next hour and a half. and the manhunt for kyle clifford, aged 26, continues. it's now been reported that he served in the military until 2022. police believe that he may be responsible for a triple murder in bushey in hertfordshire. that is a mother. and the two daughters, aged 61, 28 and 25

respectively. this woman , of respectively. this woman, of course, one of the murder victims was the wife of bbc star john hunt. bbc five live racing commentator, who reportedly returned home to discover his wife and two daughters had been brutally attacked . now all three brutally attacked. now all three women were alive when the ambulance arrived, ambulances more likely, but they died shortly thereafter. the police are worried that this man could be armed a with a crossbow, which is an alleged weapon that may have been involved in this triple murder and potentially other weapons specialist search teams and armed officers are in bushey at the murder scene, but also at an address in enfield in north london. so we'll bring you more on that shortly. but first, armed forces minister luke pollard says the government will aim to complete its defence review in less than a year. he insists the government will work at pace to complete the assessment in order to fulfil

sir keir starmer's cast iron commitment to raise defence spending to 2.5% of gdp. it comes as former military chiefs warn that britain is not prepared for the threat of war. now our gb news political correspondent olivia utley joins me, is this a political headache brewing for keir starmer? this issue of 2.5% gdp commitment to defence spending? >> i think it probably is a bit of an issue for keir starmer over the course of the campaign. this came up again and again and rishi sunak said that if he were to be elected as prime minister, he would increase defence spending to 2.5% of gdp by 2030. keir starmer repeatedly said that the labour party would commit to raising defence spending to 2.5, but didn't say when he would do it, and again and again since he became prime minister, he hasn't committed to doing it in this parliament now over the last couple of days, because obviously the prime minister is in washington at the moment for the nato summit over

the last few days, we've heard from all sorts of army and navy chiefs. we've heard from general sir patrick sanders, the outgoing head of the army. he says that the very, very least that keir starmer needs to do is to raise it by 2.5% by the end of this parliament. and actually, that isn't really good enough. it needs to be raised to closer to 3, which is something that the former defence secretary ben wallace called for, and which rishi sunak actually rejected repeatedly. today, the former head of m16, richard dearlove, has come out and said something very similar that defence spending needs to be raised to about 3. now both of these men say that essentially the problem is britain's armed forces have been hollowed out to such an extent that britain now only has the capability and resources to fight a small war for about a month. well, in an increasingly unstable global environment that isn't really good enough. >> okay, well, stay with us, olivia, because joining us down the line is labour mp for sheffield south east, clive betts. mr betts , congratulations betts. mr betts, congratulations on your victory on thursday in

your constituency. and of course for the labour party who are now the governing party. but the prime minister, if he's going to talk about security and global security, needs to put his money where his mouth is. >> well, i think we can all see immediately that there are many challenges for the new government, many financial challenges. and we all know the state of the public finances. i mean, i can go through a whole range of issues during the campaign that people were asking me to improve. local bus services have disappeared , services have disappeared, people desperate for housing that isn't being built, people wanting the two child benefit cap relaxed, we can go through now of course, the defence of our country is a paramount concern. the prime minister is committed to spending more on defence. what? he's saying, however, is, i think very sensibly, everyone can see this. i've just got my feet under the desk in number 10. i'm now going around the world talking to other leaders about international defence

requirements, particularly around nato. let's do a review of where our armed forces are up to what our capabilities are, and then look about what we need to do to bring them and make them fit for purpose in the future. that seems to me a very sensible approach . sensible approach. >> minister rishi sunak didn't need to do a review. he said that defence spending would reach 2.5% of gdp by 2030. why can't the prime minister put a timeline on this? >> well, two things. first of all, i think we've all heard much evidence that our armed forces have been run down, and that's a very dangerous and concerning situation. >> you can fix it by increased defence spending straight away, which government's been in power for the last 14 years. >> so it's all right for rishi sunak to say after 14 years we've made such a mess of it, i've got to immediately commit to spending more on defence. and of course he made that commitment, didn't he? knowing very well that he wasn't going to win the election. promises are very to easy make when you

know you're not going to have to deliver them. so you know what keir starmer is saying over and over again, we're going to be very clear as a government that we're going to take our time, look at the various problems we've got and do proper assessments . this isn't assessments. this isn't government by knee jerk reaction or gimmick. it's serious government looking at the problems and addressing them in a serious way. >> and may i congratulate you, mr betts, because i think it's right that we've got a government that cuts its cloth. we know about the deficit. we know about the national debt. we know about the national debt. we know about the national debt. we know about anaemic, anaemic economic growth. however, that figure of 2.5% of gdp on defence is meaningless without a timeline . timeline. >> it's meaningless as well. without a clear review about what we're going to spend the money on. and i think thank you for really pointing that out. you don't just make a spending commitment like that in a vacuum and then say, oh, we've got all that money. what do we do with it? what are the needs? what are the requirements? let's do the review. let's look seriously at the requirements and the needs and then look at the money we

need to address the immediate concerns. they are immediate. and they're going to potentially grow. and we're all clearly worried about the threat that russia poses . russia poses. >> okay. let's hear the thoughts of our political correspondent olivia utley. olivia. >> well , i can olivia utley. olivia. >> well, i can see olivia utley. olivia. >> well , i can see the olivia utley. olivia. >> well, i can see the logic in, defence strategic defence review, but why does this review have to take a full year? we're in an increasingly unstable global environment. who knows where we'll be in a year's time? can't the timelines be sped up a bit for that review ? bit for that review? >> i don't know, is the answer. you're asking me a question that i don't know the answer to? my assumption would be that my colleagues in government and luke pollard said it will try and get it done in less than a yeah and get it done in less than a year. but i think what what no one would want is a half baked review where people say, well, actually, that hasn't addressed this issue, that issue or the other issues, you know , they other issues, you know, they clearly are an awful lot of concerns, not just about the army , but about the capability army, but about the capability of equipment in all our armed forces. is it fit for purpose? what do we do in terms of buying

new equipment? can we ensure that the equipment we buy is actually mainly made in this country? so we create british jobs as well. that's a really important issue, you know, nuclear submarines, some of the parts for those, the key parts and made it forgemasters in my constituency. so looking at all the knock on implications as part of a comprehensive review, i'm sure it's something the country would want us to do , one country would want us to do, one other thing in the country would like a labour government to do this brand new labour government to do , clive, is to invest in to do, clive, is to invest in depnved to do, clive, is to invest in deprived towns in this country. >> it's not very good messaging, is it, that the department for levelling up, housing and communities has ditched the expression levelling up? >> well, it's good news they've ditched a gimmick, because that's what levelling up was. it was a series of pots of money which councils bid for , in and which councils bid for, in and very often they got nothing for all the work they put into the bidding for these pots of money, the pots of money were not joined up. they were disparate. they were scattered around. and what we should do is to learn lessons from countries like

germany, which levelled up. if you want to use the phrase actually, brought about, increasing equality between the east and the west over a period of time. and they had a strategic plan to do that over a long period of time with a whole of government, all, all government budgets geared up to that. that's what we've got to do and to devolve responsibilities for achieving that down to local level, to mayors and combined authorities and local councils. that's the right thing to do . our select right thing to do. our select committee looked at this and said that the pots of money approach was wrong. we need to actually devolve whole budgets down to local level. that's what the government's committed to do. i look forward to seeing them put into practice, >> clive, good to have you on the show. i hope we'll be seeing lots of you on gb news over the next five years, quick prediction . definitely quick prediction. definitely quick prediction. definitely quick prediction for the game tonight, how do you think? do you think england can, prevail and get through to the final in the euros? >> well, i was just saying at a conference i spoke at this morning about housing. actually, they asked me about football , they asked me about football, and i said, remember howard wolfson? he used the phrase,

england only win the world cup under a labour government. i hope that next week we can say england only win the european championships under a labour government . government. >> on that we can agree, thank you very much, clive. we'll catch you up soon. my thanks to the labour mp for sheffield south east, clive betts. okay. lots more to come between now and 5:00, including the very latest in the manhunt for that suspected triple killer, kyle clifford. we've got new developments on that after the news headlines and polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> mark, thanks very much indeed. well, let's update you on the latest headlines this houn on the latest headlines this hour. and the home secretary is urgently considering today the findings of a home office review to see if tougher crossbow laws need to be introduced in the wake of the deaths of the wife and two daughters of bbc racing commentator john and two daughters of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt, police found the three women, aged 25, 28 and 61, just before 7:00 last night in what they believe was a

targeted attack. officers are urging the public not to approach their main suspect, who is still at large . kyle is still at large. kyle clifford, who's been on the run since yesterday evening. it's emerged he served in the british army in 2022. residents who live close to the murder scene have described the incident as tragic and disturbing, and chief superintendent john simpson of hertfordshire police, says significant numbers of his staff and police officers in north london have been deployed. also today, two children, aged five and six, have died amid an infection outbreak at a liverpool primary school . liverpool primary school. milstead primary, which caters for children with special educational needs, is currently deaung educational needs, is currently dealing with an outbreak of giardia that's a stomach infection . it's being overseen infection. it's being overseen by the uk health security agency. the head teacher of the school says the entire school community is devastated by the deaths of the two young youngsters who had previously filled their classes with joy . filled their classes with joy. in other headlines today, the prime minister has refused to

guarantee the government will meet his promise to spend 2.5% of national income on defence within his first term. he says it can only happen when it's done within the rules. he set out on spending and borrowing. meanwhile, sir keir starmer is in washington for the 75th nato summit . in washington for the 75th nato summit. ukraine high on the agenda too, with more aid to the country, promised volodymyr zelenskyy, though the president won't be joining the nato summit whilst the fighting continues in his country, though, leaders will agree a statement promising ukraine an irreversible path towards membership of nato and in sport. the build up's beginning for thousands of england fans descending on dortmund in germany, the squad facing the netherlands this evening in the second semi—final of euro 2024, the manager, gareth southgate, admitted his team haven't been at their best but they have managed to pull through the winners tonight will take on spain in the final on sunday. those are the latest gb

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>> welcome back. now, the manhunt for kyle clifford , aged manhunt for kyle clifford, aged 26, continues. this is a man suspected by police of having committed a triple murder. the murder of bbc racing commentator star john hunt. the three women involved his wife, who was 61, and his two daughters, aged 28 and his two daughters, aged 28 and 25 respectively. they were alive when the ambulance arrived before 7 pm. at this address in bushey , hertfordshire, but died bushey, hertfordshire, but died shortly afterwards . lots of shortly afterwards. lots of tributes have been going out to

john hunt and his family. let's take a look at what's being said. for example, we've got matt chapman, who's a racing commentator at itv. he said no words needed for what has happened to john hunt and his family . impossible to comprehend family. impossible to comprehend the pain .just family. impossible to comprehend the pain . just know that we're the pain. just know that we're all here for you, john. we love you pal. racing loves you too. so more on this devastating story and this manhunt, which continues in a couple of minutes. but first, on to more positive news. and what about the football? are england about to get one step closer to bringing it home? the three lions take on the netherlands in dortmund this evening for a place in the final of euro 2024 against spain. gareth southgate's team made it to the semi—finals after overcoming switzerland on penalties on saturday, and if they make it to sunday's final, it will be their first euros final on foreign soil. well, let's head to sheffield now and gb news reporter will hollis, who's at

the fan zone and look is the is the fan zone and look is the is the atmosphere beginning to build? will >> well not really because people are still at work. if we just take a little bit of a look around right now here. devonshire green in the heart of the city centre of sheffield, is completely empty except for a couple of pigeons that are getting in the bit of the atmosphere. but we know that some 4000 or so england football fans that chose to stay on home turf for this tournament will be here later today. >> it's 4000 or so people that are expected, but we know that there are tickets on the door and these fan zones, they've become more and more important for tournaments like the euros and the world cup in recent years. >> why would you want to watch it in a small pub with your dad's friends, when you can come down here and be amongst many other like minded people, you would just talking about that game with switzerland. that was a very tight one, wasn't it? >> penalties. we don't tend to do too well in penalties as the history of football goes for

england, but we know that the spirits are up after a tricky start to the tournament, some critics would say that it was an easy road for england to get here, but there was a lot of stumbling on the way and i imagine if later we were speaking to people, they would be quite surprised to be seeing england at this point. but we will take it. >> we know that people are behind gareth southgate all the way, even if maybe earlier in the tournament there was a few worries about whether we could even get out of the group stages letter, let alone through the quarters, as well as to the semi—finals . but 4000 people semi—finals. but 4000 people here today, as soon as they clock off from work . clock off from work. >> stuff will. i do hope you get a bit of company shortly, and i hope someone buys you a drink. gb news reporter will hollis . gb news reporter will hollis. and now let's get to the latest in the search for kyle clifford, the chief suspect in the hertfordshire triple murder. i'm joined now by gb news reporter charlie peters. charlie the manhunt continues. >> yes. that's right. mark. the manhunt continues and we have

some further information on the background of kyle clifford because the irish sun are reporting that mr clifford was previously in the british army , previously in the british army, specifically in the queen's dragoon guards, having joined the military in 2019, serving, we understand, until about 2022. they claim that he then moved from the dragoon guards to the household cavalry regiment, the mounted reconnaissance cavalry unit based in central london, known for its pomp and ceremony, but also an armoured reconnaissance role. and it's possible that as this manhunt continues and approaches its 21st hour, that those three years of military training could be contributing to clifford evading police capture. we've also learned from the telegraph newspaper, which is reporting that kyle clifford's older brother, bradley clifford , was brother, bradley clifford, was sentenced to life in prison for

murder in 2018 after he committed a murder and attempted gbh in 2017 when he knocked off two men from a moped when he was driving his mustang. >> okay, well, we'll bring you more on this manhunt for kyle clifford . still on the run? the clifford. still on the run? the police are worried he may be armed , potentially with armed, potentially with a crossbow. which is the alleged weapon involved in that triple murder and potentially other weapons , too. also coming up, weapons, too. also coming up, we'll be hearing from england star kobbie mainoo, his former coach, about how he thinks the youngster is faring in gareth southgate's team. lots to get through. see in two.

well, everyone's getting geared up for the semi—final of the euros. it's england versus the netherlands, and it's been a very good tournament for some of england's young stars, including

manchester united midfielder kobbie mainoo. and we can now speak to someone who knows him very well, steven varne, who coached him at cheadle and gatley fc. steven lovely to see you, did this boy always have something special about him? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> copy. >> copy. >> joined us at age five at our soccer school and literally within the space of a couple of weeks, me and another sort of volunteer parent who actually is a professional football coach, we looked at each other and said , we looked at each other and said, wow, this kid is special. >> i mean, i know it sounds daft to say about a five year old boy, but it was incredible. >> absolutely incredible play. >> absolutely incredible play. >> even at that young age, >> even at that young age, >> did we think he'd go on and make his man united debut and play make his man united debut and play for england? of course not. >> but we just knew it was a good player at five. >> clearly the rest is down to koby, his family and, all the wonderful coaches at man united. i guess, definitely. >> mr var, how important do you think he could be tonight or

indeedin think he could be tonight or indeed in the final? >> i think he's been been crucial. i mean, typical kobe is just, taken to the england role like a duck to water. he, he came in against was it the slovenia game and was was fantastic and then obviously had pretty much the full game against switzerland. and so typical. very calm and composed, which is the way he's been for man united, this, this season, it gives the team really good balance with, with declan rice. and i think he's a really important player for england. so yeah, i think he's vital, >> do you think he's going to be a hardy perennial for the team? well, he will he feature in future euros and world cups do you think steven? >> yeah, i think so. just because of the kind of boy he seems to be. he's very grounded, and he's 19 years of age, so he's got a really big, long future, hopefully ahead of him , future, hopefully ahead of him, but yeah, i'm sure that his family support network are keeping his feet on the ground. and if he keeps doing what he's

doing, then yeah, who knows? you know, the next ten, 15 years, he could be a mainstay , could be a mainstay, >> steven var lovely to have you on the show. and can i thank you for your contribution to the england team by coaching this youngster to such a high standard. steven's going to stay with us. we're also joined by the treasurer of cheadle and gatley fc, richard hubbard. you must be as proud as punch about this lad, >> yeah. i just concur with what steve said. >> he's, he's a fantastic talent and, a real credit to the club and, a real credit to the club and english football really . and english football really. >> most definitely. listen, he seems to handle the pressure well. he's comfortable on the on the big stage. >> yeah, i think from what you see of, bobby, when he plays for england and manchester united, he he just handles himself really well. he seems to play with a smile, he's taken it into his stride and nothing seems to worry him or scare him. so if the rest of the team play like

that, hopefully we have a good night tonight . night tonight. >> well, if the rest of the team play >> well, if the rest of the team play as well as him, that is the concern. have you been sort of influenced by england's approach influenced by england's approach in this? this tournament? do you feel that they've been a little underwhelming so far , underwhelming so far, >> if you want me to be frank, i've been they've been dull as dishwater. but, the younger players that play for england, like toby, cole palmer, hall, foden, they're the real talent. i just think i hope they're allowed to play tonight. but i'm not a football professional, so i'm just a fan, >> what do you think about the game? do you think it's going to go our way ? go our way? >> i would hope so. the talent england have got, you would expect it to . we've got some of expect it to. we've got some of the best players in europe, in the best players in europe, in the world, hopefully we turn up and play well tonight against the, the, the holland team. so it should be a great game. >> indeed, briefly, just a couple of seconds. steven var . couple of seconds. steven var. this story demonstrates the

importance of clubs like cheadle and gatley fc. lower league football is absolutely critical to the national game. >> yeah, absolutely . grassroots >> yeah, absolutely. grassroots football is what it's all about. i mean, without the grassroots clubs such as cheadle and gatlin and all the other fantastic grassroots clubs and volunteers, you know, the likes of kobbie mainoo, phil foden, declan rice, adam walton, cole palmer, the list goes on. you know , they list goes on. you know, they wouldn't be where they are today without having the foundation and the start at grassroots setup . setup. >> absolutely look well done, well done. cheadle and gatley fc, thank you so much to richard hubbard. and indeed steven var. come on england. in the next hour we'll hear from big sam allardyce, former england manager , and also who's going to manager, and also who's going to be the next leader of the tory party. i'll be asking ex—tory mp, sir michael fabricant.

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this is mark dolan in for martin daubney. a very busy hour to come. and a new development in the triple murder manhunt. it has emerged that the 26 year old suspect, carl clifford , served suspect, carl clifford, served in the british army from around 2019 to 2022. the victims are reported as the wife and daughters of a well—known bbc racing commentator, john hunt. we'll bring you all of the latest on this story . also, the latest on this story. also, the runners and riders gather to replace rishi sunak as the

leader of the conservative party and an extraordinary war of words has already broken out between leadership hopefuls suella braverman and kemi badenoch. could this crisis tear the tory party apart? and who is to best rebuild trust and lead them into the next election? i'll be asking maverick tory mp , i'll be asking maverick tory mp, i'll be asking maverick tory mp, i should say former tory mp sir michael fabricant . also this michael fabricant. also this houris michael fabricant. also this hour is prince harry dreaming of a permanent return to britain? and we know that football is coming home. england face holland in the euros tonight at 8:00 and who better to preview the game than former england manager big sam allardyce? all of that to come in the next hour. and you can interact with the show gbnews.com forward slash yoursay lots to get through but

first the headlines and polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> thanks very much indeed. the top story this hour from the gb newsroom. the home secretary is today urgently considering the findings of a home office review to see if tougher crossbow laws need to be introduced in the wake of the deaths of the wife and two daughters of racing commentator john and two daughters of racing commentatorjohn hunt, police found the three women, aged 25, 28 and 61, just before 7:00 last night in what they believe was a targeted attack. officers are urging the public not to approach their main suspect, carl clifford, who's still at large. he's been on the run since yesterday evening. it's emerged he served in the british army in 2022. residents who live close to the murder scene have described the incident as tragic and disturbing. chief superintendent john simpson says significant numbers of police have been deployed in hertfordshire and north london.

>> our overarching objective today is to protect public safety and to locate kyle clifford, who is wanted in connection with the murder of the three women in what we believe is a targeted incident. we have extensive police resources deployed to various locations in north london and also the bushey area of hertfordshire . the manhunt also hertfordshire. the manhunt also involves armed police officers and specialist search teams responding at pace. in the wake of what has been an horrific incident involving what is currently believed to be a crossbow. but other weapons may also have been used well. >> local residents of the area where the three were murdered have been reacting to the tragedy, telling gb news it's shaken the community because this is such as everyone is saying, such a quiet area, such a safe place where there's never been any sort of cause for concern now for something so heinous to have happened in such close proximity to all of us, we're all very on edge .

we're all very on edge. >> i've never seen so many police in my life that yeah, crazy. absolutely crazy . crazy. absolutely crazy. >> the deaths of three ladies in the same household is incredibly regrettable, and it's very shocking and scaring for local people . people. >> in other news, today, two children from a primary school in liverpool that's been dealing with an infection outbreak have died. it's understood the children from milstead primary school were aged five and six. the uk health security agency says it's been looking into a number of cases of a parasitic infection of giardia at the school, but experts say it's unlikely the deaths are related to that outbreak . a second man to that outbreak. a second man has been arrested as part of an investigation into a small boat people smuggling network, the national crime agency says. the 25 year old iraqi national was apprehended this morning at an address in preston in lancashire. he was detained on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and obtaining leave to remain in the

uk by deception. it follows the arrest of an iranian national in preston in lancashire in may. now the prime minister's promising a review of the uk's defence and security, which could see the size of our armed forces increase. his manifesto promised to spend 2.5% of national income on defence, but he's refused to guarantee the government will meet that promise within his first term. instead, he's pledging to keep the uk's defences strong without breaking his spending and borrowing rules. defence secretary john healey says the review will determine when the manifesto commitment is met. >> last time britain spent 2.5, of course, was in 2010, with laboun of course, was in 2010, with labour. now we will do that as part of the getting to grips with the challenges that we face. so we will launch next week. the prime minister will launch a strategic defence review. it's the way we get to gnps review. it's the way we get to grips with the threats we face, the capabilities we need for the future, the state of our armed forces and also the state of the

pubuc forces and also the state of the public finances. when we open the books and we will set alongside that a clear pathway to meeting that commitment of 2.5% on of on defence. >> well, that comes as sir keir starmer has arrived in washington for the 75th nato summit there today, where he's pushing allies to invest more in defence. and it's the first time he'll line up with other world leaders as prime minister. opening the nato summit, us president joe biden insisted the alliance is more powerful than even alliance is more powerful than ever. meanwhile, the actor george clooney has urged joe biden to step down as the democratic nominee for president . democratic nominee for president. george clooney, who co—hosted a huge hollywood fundraiser for joe biden in june that raised a record $28 million, appears to have changed his mind after biden's disastrous performance in the first presidential tv debate against donald trump . debate against donald trump. just one more story before i go. as you've been hearing, thousands of england fans are

gathering in dortmund in germany for tonight's euro 2024 semi—final against the netherlands. but the brits are expected to be outnumbered. it's thought there could be four times more opposition supporters out tonight. gareth southgate's side, though, pushing for a place in the final against spain and some of these england fans told gb news they expect a win. >> easy game , i'll say easy. >> easy game, i'll say easy. >> easy game, i'll say easy. >> probably going to be pens, but obviously we'll win because that's what we're good at. you've seen the last game with switzerland, you know, baby food, easy. >> yeah, i'm excited for the semi—finals. it's going well so far . hopefully it can get better. >> i won't take nothing away from the dutch. >> they got van dijk, that's about it. but you know we'll give it the best. i mean england expects those are the latest gb news headlines. >> for now i'm polly middlehurst and i'm back in half an hour. >> see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward

slash alerts . slash alerts. >> mark dolan in for martin daubney. lovely to have your company this afternoon , and company this afternoon, and police are still urgently searching for their chief suspect, 26 year old kyle clifford. in regards to the triple murder of three women in hertfordshire. it's been reported that clifford served in the british army from 2019 to around 2022. the victims are the wife and daughters of bbc racing commentator john wife and daughters of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt. it's his 61 year old wife, carole, and his daughters hannah and louise, aged 28 and 25 respectively. now police have said all three women were killed in what they consider to have been a targeted incident . incident. >> police were called to a property in ashland close just before 7 pm. last night.

officers attended alongside colleagues from the east of england ambulance service and on arrival found three women with serious injuries. sadly, despite their best efforts, the women who are believed to be related, died a short time later at the scene. the victims, at age 25, 28 and 61. our overarching objective today is to protect pubuc objective today is to protect public safety and to locate kyle clifford, who is wanted in connection with the murder of the three women in what we believe is a targeted incident . believe is a targeted incident. >> well, for more reaction, i'm delighted to welcome former detective chief inspector dave mckelvey. mr mckelvey, thank you very much for joining mckelvey. mr mckelvey, thank you very much forjoining us. how serious a danger is this man to the british public? would you say . >> he's, >> he's, he >> he's, he clearly >> he's, he clearly is >>— >> he's, he clearly is a >> he's, he clearly is a danger, >> he's, he clearly is a danger, >> you know, by all accounts , >> you know, by all accounts, he's armed, and clearly he has been involved, potentially involved, allegedly involved in

a triple murder. so he's going to be, you know, he's going to be looking to get away. >> can we try to put our ourselves in the mind of this person? what is his psychology going to be at this stage? he knows that if he is convicted that he'll be spending decades in prison. will this influence his behaviour at this moment in time ? time? >> quite possibly. yeah. >> quite possibly. yeah. >> i mean, i, you know , you >> i mean, i, you know, you don't know the background of the man. >> that's what the police will be doing right now. >> they'll be doing extensive enquiries into his background to understand, you know, the psychology of this. what's happened, why it's taken place , happened, why it's taken place, the full history behind it. happened, why it's taken place, the full history behind it . and the full history behind it. and obviously, based upon that, they will make decisions as to whether or not they will, obviously make the manhunt more extensive. there's clearly firearms teams being deployed across the met and in hertfordshire looking for this man. >> so they do believe he is dangerous . dangerous. >> mr mckelvey, what is the best weapon in the arsenal of the police in tracking down somebody

like this ? who's on the run? like this? who's on the run? >> well, they'll they'll they'll be using all sorts of technical capability. obviously there's anpn capability. obviously there's anpr, infill for instance, has an outstanding cctv system, you know, with capability and obviously there is opportunities around the phones. so there's a lot of technical capability. >> plus on top of that, you'll be talking to all of his associates. >> you'll be visiting those people. you'll be going to home addresses. you'll be talking to people just trying to find out his, his background, his haunts , his, his background, his haunts, where he could be going, where he could be hiding. >> is it surprising mr mckelvey that he's been on the run for this long approaching 24 hours? now? could it be that friends or family are helping him ? family are helping him? >> it could be, >> it could be, >> obviously we don't know, there's been very little information. come out from the police, there's obviously been raids in enfield this morning. armed raids. and so there is some information coming out. but, at the moment, the police

have been quite tight lipped around what's going on and what technical facilities they've got in place to track this man down. >> i mean, how long could this go on for, dave? the guy has been on the run, like i said, for almost 24 hours. i guess the issue will be whether he's got access to food and hydration and other factors. the police are on his case, but could this go on for days , for days, >> quite possibly. >> quite possibly. >> as as we've seen historically, you know, people who have been in this type of situation who've committed murders have gone on the run for significant periods of time. however, they have always been caught, you know, there will be an all ports warning to prevent him from leaving the country. and i'm absolutely no doubt that, you know, with an extensive manhunt such as this in place, they will catch him. >> indeed. is there a chance that not only is this man a threat to the public, but a threat to the public, but a threat to the public, but a threat to himself as well? do you think there's a chance that he could take his own life? >> there's. you know, in circumstances such as this and

we don't know what's going on, and it'd be wrong to, to talk about it at this stage. but, you know, there is that possibility that , he know, there is that possibility that, he could do that, but again, that's all part of the examination of his background , examination of his background, that the police will be doing at this present time and this awful weapon, the crossbow. >> i mean, this is a devastating piece of technology, isn't it ? piece of technology, isn't it? >> it is. >> it is. >> and, you know, bizarrely , i >> and, you know, bizarrely, i done a piece for the, the sunday express, just this sunday. gone, because these weapons are so easily available, there was a, you know, a handheld crossbow that was, purchased for £50 from the internet, literally with just the driver's license. you know, you could use a fake one. and that's easily concealable. and that's easily concealable. and weapons such as this are openly on sale. you can buy them in markets. you can buy them onune in markets. you can buy them online very easily, and they kill people, you know, and we've seen, someone shot dead in january this year by the police who had a crossbow. and here we

have, you know, by all accounts, another incident involving crossbow. >> dave. thank you. so much for joining us. my thanks there to former detective chief inspector dave mckelvey . no problem. thank dave mckelvey. no problem. thank you. more on that shortly . but you. more on that shortly. but our england about to get one step closer to bringing it home. the three lions take on the netherlands in dortmund this evening for a place in the final of euro 2024 against spain. gareth southgate's team made it to the semi—finals after overcoming switzerland on penalties on saturday and if they make it to sunday's final, it will be their first euros on foreign soil. who better to ask foreign soil. who better to ask for a preview than former england manager? top club manager, of course , in the manager, of course, in the premier league as well sam allardyce, big sam , a privilege allardyce, big sam, a privilege to have you back on the show. are you looking forward to tonight's game, >> i'm not so sure. >>— >> i'm not so sure. >> i've been looking forward to each game up to now, but i've

been biting my fingernails towards the end of the game saying, doing a bit of shouting at the television , saying, make at the television, saying, make at the television, saying, make a substitution, change the way you're playing. but at the end of the day, we've managed to get through every round. >> we've had a very good contest, particularly in the last game. and, i think we're getting better. but unfortunately for me and a lot of people, not just me, not enough chances created in the final third for england. and i think that, we can say that they need to do better in that area. but i have to say across the board, it's been the same for the french. the spanish , you the french. the spanish, you know, the portuguese. so it's been a really tight competition. this, this euros. so, a lot of the lesser sides have stood up particularly well tactically been very, very good. and it's been very, very good. and it's been very, very good. and it's been very difficult to break them down. and england have found that to be the case. but at the end of the day, on what we thought might be a weakness has been a strength. their defensive unity has been outstanding. and this could

obviously get you all the way to the final if they defend well today. and, and obviously from an attacking point of view, we all want england to create that little bit more. >> well big sam, your teams have always attacked. is there another factor at play that would explain for england's anaemic performance up front? i mean, yes, some of it comes from the opposing team. but is there a problem within the culture of the squad that they're not going for it in these games to a greater extent , in my for it in these games to a greater extent, in my opinion, it's to slow the build ups to slow and i get possession. >> they love possession, possession is 9/10 of the law. so they say. but there's not been a lot of progression with the possession. and that's allowed the opposition to get 11 behind the ball. and england found that hugely difficult to break down. so we haven't moved the ball quick enough through the ball quick enough through the lines. we haven't moved the ball forward quick enough to create opportunities for what our a fantastic front three and

midfield three. >> you know they are they are some of the best in the world there. >> but we haven't seen them at their best like we see them at their best like we see them at the football club and that is for me the reason that because they've been playing too slow, it's been blocked off by the time they get to the final third and found that difficult to get the sort of opportunities that they need. so move that ball quicker, move it faster, get it forward quicker with quality and, you know, cause the opposition some problems in their own box. >> sam, we know that harry kane is a huge talent, a talisman for the national team . but would you the national team. but would you drop him tonight, >> i wouldn't know. i think that, it's unlikely that they would do that, but i would have to say it. just my opinion and what i would do, if he struggled like he has struggled through the tournament, i would probably look at 60 minutes. >> and maybe if we're at a stalemate and we're not leading and we're not in front, then i'd make that change. then, gareth's

done a fantastic job in brilliant there. but, you know, we've all said we like those substitutions a little bit earlier and i think we've got away with it a little bit recently, >> but we won't always get away with it if we wait too long to make those decisions. >> well, indeed, gareth southgate is he is he more of a lucky general than a good one, sam, that's been lucky than going out. >> don't worry about that, i think. and if you're lucky and good, you're going to get all the way to the final and win it. so i think that, i think we've been lucky on the group that we've had, we've had a very good, a very good euros in terms of we've missed out all the big boys. of we've missed out all the big boys . we haven't seen any of the boys. we haven't seen any of the big boys, really, have we? so, no, obviously, holland wasn't expected to be one of the big boys there, but they're there now. and, will this be the most difficult game? i think if england hit the form, they can win. they can hit the win. this game, this evening. >> but sam , things have got to >> but sam, things have got to change if we're going to win the

trophy. haven't they? we can't keep playing badly and getting through . through. >> well, if you keep playing badly and get through, then you carry on doing it. but, i mean, we all want we all want them . we we all want we all want them. we all want to be more entertained, more . we don't want them to more. we don't want them to lose. we want them to win at any cost. but we all want to be entertained more with the quality of the team that we've got . and i think that the got. and i think that the progression of the team, certainly in the last performance, was better, but they found it difficult to score a goal again and that's what we need. we need the end product tonight. we need we need the england team to make us feel comfortable and not sitting on the edge of our seat shouting at the edge of our seat shouting at the tv . the tv. >> indeed. listen, you're an absolute gentleman and i know you wouldn't want to criticise the current england coach , but the current england coach, but do you think he's a little cautious as a manager? >> yes, i do . i expected in his

>> yes, i do. i expected in his early stages and he's been there eight years now that, that that would be the obvious that i'd expected by now that he would he would have actually been that a bit less, you know, in terms of his cautiousness and managed to get, you know, a decision. i don't think it's right to put substitutions after the opposition have scored. i think it's right to put substitutions on before they're going to score. if you feel that is a dangen score. if you feel that is a danger, then put your subs on to counteract it. and i feel that we see substitutions when you know the opposition are playing well against us or they've scored against us. i think we should do more in in the game when it's in the balance to turn the game in our favour and not put substitutions on to get ourselves back in the game, >> big sam, it's always a thrill to have you on the show. we'll catch up soon. enjoy the match tonight. my thanks to you. legendary former england and gareth. >> good luck. good luck. >> good luck. good luck. >> there you go. they've got the blessing from big sam. if only he was in the dressing room to

give them a talking to. i'm sure that would deliver a performance. my thanks to legendary former england and premier league manager sam allardyce. coming up, what's going on with the tories? who should replace rishi sunak as the next tory leader? we'll be speaking to ex conservative mp sir michael

next. well, some bad news forjoe biden from across the pond. because hollywood actor george clooney is calling on joe biden to step down from the presidential race. the lifelong democrat stroke actor says democrats should pick a new nominee as the 81 year old can't win. quote, the battle against time. in a scathing op ed for the new york times released this morning. well, look in the last couple of weeks, i've been very critical of joe biden because his performance at that tv

debate with donald trump was an absolute disaster, plenty of lifelong democrats, plenty of biden loyalists called for him to step down in the aftermath, because it was quite clear that this poor man has lost his marbles. i was therefore pretty shocked when barack obama said, oh , he just had a bad night at oh, he just had a bad night at the debate and had a cold. well, that's frankly gaslighting in the extreme. i was double surprised when our new prime minister, keir starmer, was quoted in the last 24 hours as saying that joe biden is too not old to be president. well, keir starmer may wear glasses, but i think he needs to head to specsavers. but we'll get back to that story shortly. it's now time to talk about the tories. remember them the last governing party? well, suella braverman is the public's favourite to replace rishi sunak as leader of the conservative party, according to an opinion poll conducted by jl partners exclusively for gb news, the former home secretary holds a slender one point lead over her nearest rival, former security minister tom tugendhat . but

minister tom tugendhat. but a whopping 61% of the public don't know who the next conservative leader should be. meanwhile, among current conservative voters, suella braverman's lead over tugendhat increases to 5. she's almost 10% ahead of fellow former home secretary priti patel and former minister of state for immigration robert jenrick. well, in a moment we're going to be speaking to the former conservative mp for lichfield, sir michael fabricant. but first gb news, political correspondent olivia utley, olivia do we know about the timeline of this leadership contest? will they have somebody in post before party season in october, or indeed before a potential autumn budget? >> well, they haven't announced anything yet, and most of the conservatives i've spoken to say that they want some time to reflect . they don't want to rush reflect. they don't want to rush into it. they point out that, unlike in previous conservative elections, conservative leadership elections, when the leadership elections, when the leader would be prime minister, this time around they have the

luxury of that person. you know, not having a constitutional role. that said, i think it is very likely that they will have someone in place by conference season. from what i've heard in westminster, it sounds like that's what they're aiming for. and of course it would be good if they had someone in place for the budget, which we are not expecting it to be until november. rachel reeves doesn't seem to want an emergency budget, so i suspect the leadership race will kick off in a few weeks time. perhaps and then be over for october. i mean , then be over for october. i mean, ben houchen, who i spoke to yesterday, the conservative mayor for tees valley, now the most powerful conservative in the country, pointed out he thinks that they should get on with it and do the election pretty quickly because he says, well, we know what all of the key player thinks thinks all of these people have either stood as a conservative leader before or been a big player in the previous government. so sort of what's the point in hanging around, but yeah, i suspect the discussion starts in a few weeks

time and the leader is in place by conference. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> fascinating stuff. well, let's get the views of former conservative mp for lichfield, sir michael fabricant. michael, lovely to have you on the show . lovely to have you on the show. commiserations regarding thursday. i know you've been a very loyal servant to your constituents for many, many years in the constituency, but it's about the future now . who it's about the future now. who is the best kind of person to take over the party? is this a battle of left versus right ? battle of left versus right? >> i think sadly it will become just that. >> but you know, it's so unbecoming to see at the moment the squabbling that's already started in the last couple of days between kemi badenoch and suella braverman and all the others, i mean , this is the sort others, i mean, this is the sort of thing that got us into the big problem and the big hole in the first place. that of course, along with non—delivery, as far as the immigration concerned. >> yeah, for sure. and what do you make of this cat fight that started to kick off between kemi badenoch and suella braverman?

an allegation that kemi badenoch accused suella braverman of having basically a nervous breakdown . breakdown. >> yes. >> yes. >> well, i you know, she's not a psychiatrist. and to make that sort of statement, i think is not helpful, mind you, it wasn't very helpful of suella braverman to actually write the article that she did the day before the general election criticising the government. but look, i was looking at the polls that you were presenting just before you came to my interview . and of came to my interview. and of course, it demonstrates there is a big disconnect. and there has been for many years between the choice of the parliamentary party and that of the membership of the party. so it'll be interesting to see what two people, assuming we stick to the same rules, are put before the national membership to decide who's going to become the leader of the party. and, whether or not those two names, either of them are actually acceptable to

them are actually acceptable to the membership. and by the way, while i'm speaking, i just want while i'm speaking, ijust want to correct olivia utley on one little point she made, she said, you know , there's an element of you know, there's an element of relaxation at the moment because at least and she's right. the leader of the conservative party is not the prime minister and doesn't have a constitutional role. but yes, he does have a constitutional role, not a government role, but a constitutional role in that. he's leader of the opposition or she's leader of the opposition and that is an important role in itself . itself. >> clearly, the next leader needs to be somebody that sends out a message that we have heard what the public have to say, their concerns about high taxes, about wokery in our public institutions , and about illegal institutions, and about illegal and legal net migration. who is the kind of figure that could pretty much communicate to the pubuc pretty much communicate to the public that we've heard you ? is public that we've heard you? is it kemi badenoch ? it kemi badenoch? >> well, i'll tell you who my favourite is actually , although favourite is actually, although he was rather down low on the list . robert jenrick the former

list. robert jenrick the former immigration minister who actually showed integrity by resigning from the government, not wishing to work with james cleverly, who might also stand by the way because he didn't believe that we were making tough enough decisions and tough enough rules about stopping immigration into the uk. >> so personally, who are the people i'd go for? robert jenrick priti patel i don't think she actually, showed up in the thing. tom tugendhat, a personal friend of mine, but he may be a little bit too moderate, for the general membership of the party personally , i'll be surprised if personally, i'll be surprised if kemi badenoch or, suella are actually in the final two, but i could be wrong . could be wrong. >> michael, do you think whoever wins is somebody that would be willing to do business with nigel farage? >> the trouble is, with nigel farage, be willing to do business with them . i mean, you

business with them. i mean, you know, it's no secret that i love nigel farage. i suggested years ago that he should have been rewarded for the work that he did, and undoubtedly he had huge influence in getting us the referendum in the first place. but boy, richard tice may not admitted. but he will tell you that nigel is a difficult man to work with. so whether or not he would a want to be working with the conservative party and whether he would stick with us for very long, you know, is an interesting point . interesting point. >> let me bring olivia utley into this. olivia >> well, what i found really interesting about that gb news poll we showed earlier was that over 60% of british people don't know who they'd like to see as the next conservative leader, do you think that perhaps none of the, possibilities that we've discussed have what it takes? and if so, are there any other names that you think should perhaps be thrown into the ring? >> well, that's a good question, olivia. >> and, you know, you could argue that some of these people

are tainted by being in the party that lost the last election. who else might be there? you never know. there's people like danny kruger and others of the think he was the 2019 intake. there may even people of the 2024 intake. but this is the thing which i'm afraid is a sad fact. it ain't the same being the leader of the opposition when you could be facing. could be facing a labour government for at least two parliaments, and there's no guarantee we're going to win the next general election. so i'm rather hoping that with the likes of angela rayner, let alone jeremy corbyn on the sidelines there and lots and lots of very left wing labour backbenchers, the whole thing after a couple of years just might implode and the conservatives might have a chance of getting back in again. but boy, the conservative party has got to learn some lessons

from why it lost the election. the election this time round. >> well, michael, now you can say what you're really, really thinking now that you're out of the house of commons. i look forward to many weeks, months and years of punditry from your good self. we'll catch up soon. so michael fabricant there. next up is prince harry planning a permanent return to the united kingdom. and what kind of welcome might he get? we'll discuss that. but first, here's the latest headlines and polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> the headlines this hour emergency service are at a cemetery in enfield in north london, in the hunt for kyle clifford, who's wanted over the murder of the wife and two daughters of bbc racing commentator john daughters of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt. police found the three women, aged 25, 28 and 61, just before 7:00 last night in what they believe was a targeted attack. the cemetery has been closed off and an air ambulance was seen nearby. clifford is believed to have

joined the british army for a short period two years ago. residents who live close to the murder scene have described the incident as tragic and disturbing . incident as tragic and disturbing. in incident as tragic and disturbing . in other news today, disturbing. in other news today, the prime minister has refused to guarantee the government will meet his promise to spend 2.5% of uk gdp on defence within his first term. he says that will only happen when it can be done within the rules. he set out on spending and borrowing. meanwhile, sir keir starmer is in washington for a nato summit to mark 75 years of the military alliance . ukraine high on the alliance. ukraine high on the agenda with more aid already promised. the ukrainian president isn't joining the nato summit while fighting in his country continues, though leaders have agreed a statement promising ukraine and irreversible path towards membership of nato and a study has found the sugar tax imposed on fizzy drinks has led to a significant drop in sugar consumption. it came into force in april 2018, and it was designed to encourage

manufacturers to change their ingredients . 12 months later, ingredients. 12 months later, children were found to be consuming nearly five grams fewer per day, while for adults it was 11g fewer. and i'm sure you know the build up is beginning for thousands of fans. england fans, that is descending on dortmund in germany for tonight's match against the dutch , the squad facing the dutch, the squad facing the netherlands this evening in the second semi—final of euro 2024. manager gareth southgate has admitted the team hasn't been at its best, but it has managed to pull through the winners tonight will take on spain in the final on sunday. those are your latest gb news headlines for now. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> cheers! >> cheers! >> britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial

report . report. >> loving this new labour government. with me now is emily carver carver. i've gone mad. i've lost the plot. emily carver. i do love a carvery. you're in for michelle dewberry . you're in for michelle dewberry. >> but it used to be one of my nicknames. emily carvery, anyway, yes, i am sitting in for michel jubeir, and i'm very excited indeed. this evening, i've got peter hitchens , and i've got peter hitchens, and i've got peter hitchens, and i've also got aaron bastani, so it's going to get intellectual, but also very feisty indeed. of course, we're going to be leading the show with an update on this manhunt for this triple killer. we've seen the police swarming into the cemetery. we're going to be there outside, live right at the top of the show, but then we're going to get stuck into the debates of the day. should the reform party

merge with the conservatives is that a good idea? what would nigel farage say? is it a recipe for disaster? there's huge amounts of tory infighting , as amounts of tory infighting, as we know, particularly between suella braverman and kemi badenoch. it's all going down on public, on public media, on social media, and of course , social media, and of course, lisa nandy in the labour party announcing that somehow the culture wars, the era of the culture wars, the era of the culture wars, the era of the culture wars is now over. is it really up to her to decide whether it's over? we'll discuss that too . that too. >> emily carver cannot wait for that. >> emily carver cannot wait for that . emily >> emily carver cannot wait for that. emily carver in for michelle dewberry a fascinating watch, let me tell you. 6:00 that is, if you want to get in touch with the show gbnews.com forward slash yoursay lots more to come.

well. the manhunt continues for 26 year old kyle clifford, who is suspected by police of being

responsible for a triple murder. this is of the wife and two daughters of highly respected bbc racing commentator john hunt . bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt. his wife was 61. his two daughters, 28 and 25 respectively. they were alive when ambulances arrived at a property in bushey in hertfordshire before 7 pm. yesterday evening. they have since died. they're concerned that kyle clifford may be armed with a crossbow, which is a suspected weapon in this alleged triple murder , and that he may triple murder, and that he may have other weapons as well . it's have other weapons as well. it's not clear at this stage whether he has left the country or whether he's helped at the moment by friends or family, but we do have a development on the news wires, which is that the area that's being looked at, not just the murder scene of bushey, but also a location in north london, enfield, where there's been a flurry of activity in the

last hour or so, reports suggest that authorities, the police have been combing a park, and in the last half an hour, cooke's whole road was closed off. an armed officer is blocking public access, and paramedics were seen rushing inside lavender hill cemetery. so we'll bring you more on that. but, a reported huge flurry of activity in the enfield area of north london. don't forget that is special specialist search teams and armed officers . let's get to a armed officers. let's get to a rather more prosaic story. and it's the small matter of the king's youngest son, prince harry, who will return home to the uk eventually , but on his the uk eventually, but on his own, according to a top royal expert. royal biographer hugo vickers has told the sun royal exclusive show that he thinks the duke will return to the uk in around ten years time permanently, but without meghan

markle for reaction. i'm delighted to welcome royal commentator caroline aston . commentator caroline aston. caroline, what do you make of this prediction? >> well, i've been asking myself this question for some time. where will brand sussex be in ten years time? will the prodigal petulant prince return and will he be on his own? >> hugo vickers , i gather, moved >> hugo vickers, i gather, moved his hands in a very significant way to indicate that the paths will diverge rather than converge. >> and at the moment the sussexes are struggling just a bit to get it together. certainly at the level of what they want their brand to be. you could say of meghan at the moment, if life blows, raspberries at you and there have been a few of those make jam out of them. and of course we have harry at the moment mired in controversy over the pat tillman award , an award pat tillman award, an award normally given to people who've created great heroic actions or activities in america. there's a

lot going on. >> will he come home wagging his right royal tail behind him? >> perhaps. but as things stand at the moment, there's very, very little hope. i think, of reconciliation with his older brother, who at one point was at his back and at his side. no, there's a great big rift there. the king well, he's always left the royal door ajar in case one or both meghan and harry come home. but we wait to see, don't we? ten years is a long time, and we've seen recently that just six months can be a long time in the history of our royal family. with all that's been going on. >> hugo vickers i admire his writing and i think he and i might just be singing from the same hymn sheet. >> well, that's fascinating, briefly, if you can. caroline what is your appraisal of the health of the sussexes marriage? because reading between the lines of hugo vickers comments, he suggesting the couple will

divorce, do you think that's possible ? possible? >> it's possible for anyone, isn't it? what looks so good one day can change very, very quickly. i have to say i'm with hugo vickers. when he says that harry doesn't exactly. laughing boy , does he? he looks cross boy, does he? he looks cross disgruntled , angry, angry at disgruntled, angry, angry at himself. perhaps anger has certainly run like a thread through a lot of his outpourings, both spoken and written. and who knows? who knows what goes on behind closed doors now there's a right royal keyhole. i'd like to have my ear against, or my eye to see what's happening. >> it doesn't always look good, does it? >> and there are many commentators who say that harry may just be tiring of having the path mapped out for him and being the victim of some very, very bad pr disasters. witness the recent one with this award. >> caroline . look forward to >> caroline. look forward to catching up soon. my thanks to

royal commentator caroline aston. fascinating stuff . well aston. fascinating stuff. well folks, england fans are gearing up for a huge semi—final clash with the netherlands tonight. will be crossing to germany

next. it's been lovely to have your company today. let me tell you . company today. let me tell you. martin daubney back in the hot seat tomorrow at 3:00. i return for friday night live with mark dolan. that's friday night, 8 to 9 and mark dolan tonight saturday and sunday, 9:00 till 11. now our england about to get one step closer to bringing it home. the three lions take on the netherlands in dortmund in just a few hours time. 8:00 kick off. let's head to germany now and speak to gb news brilliant reporter jack carlson . and jack, reporter jack carlson. and jack, you're on the. you're on the ground out there in dortmund with top sports broadcaster

chris skudder. and, how are the england fans there looking very merry in the background. there >> well, you remember earlier on we were saying that it was hard to try and find some england fans with just how many thousands of dutch fans and how many, how much orange was filling dortmund. but you can see from behind me that we've certainly found the england fans now at this lovely pub called the londoner. of course, as you were mentioning, we're with chris skudder. i mean, chris, this is a great sight to see, isn't it? all these england fans that have come out to dortmund, the londoner pub could be in hackney, couldn't we? >> it's, yeah, but i've never ever all my travels watching england and world cups and euros seen as many fans from one nafion seen as many fans from one nation in one place in another country, probably 100,000 dutch fans here. extraordinary all day and probably a few fewer england fans than there were in dusseldorf because it is a midweek. but i mean this, you know, as you might expect, it's been pretty, pretty noisy this afternoon. there was a little bit of, reports of a few of altercations in the city centre about a mile or so away from here earlier, but i think it was

instigated by dutch fans, not english, but a few chairs being thrown, that kind of thing. but thankfully, it's been pretty good natured. we've been speaking to dutch fans who are very affable people and they, you know, they're here for it's such a short drive for them. but, you know, for the england fans who travel everywhere as well, fantastic occasion . and, well, fantastic occasion. and, it's you know, we're getting close to kick—off now. so fingers crossed we can we can give them something to sing about. yeah. >> and of course, you know, we're not too far away from, from from, you know, from kick off and from that team news as well. i mean, how do you think gareth is going to line up tonight? yeah, i think it'll be again the three at the back. >> the only change from last time i think, will be mark gay coming back in instead of ezri konsa, who was a great understudy last time. but it will be pretty sure it'll be trippier. the left wing back saka on the right, and it will be more or less the same players we've seen all the way through. kane's going to play, it'll be bellingham and foden and he'll rely on the big names for england. and you know they've never been to a final outside of england. could this be the night? and they've never also beaten a top tier nation, one of the big european nations away

from england in a knockout match. ever. that's got to change tonight. i think it will change tonight. i think it will change england. the better. better than holland. they've got better players. it's feeling right for me and i think those that those hordes of dutch fans are going to be disappointed tonight. i think hope yeah. >> all right. well chris thank you very much for joining us. you very much forjoining us. i mean you've seen from the fans that are also now heading towards the signal iduna park ready for that semi—final. it's sure to be one hell of an atmosphere here in dortmund. when we get kick off a little bit later on. mark >> jack, you get all the tough gigs . will you be having a beer gigs. will you be having a beer tonight ? tonight? >> i think after the day and the long day we've had, i think i only deserve it. don't i? >> if anyone deserves it, it is you. you're the true england hero, jack carson. enjoy the game and we'll catch up. i'm sure after what will be no doubt a victorious performance by the england lads. thank you, jack, and thank you to chris skudder as well . brilliant stuff. well, as well. brilliant stuff. well, things are hotting up over there in dortmund. i'm so excited about the england team. i do hope that they can prevail. who

cares how they play? we just want them in the final to face spain. it's been a really busy show today. thank you so much to q and to ark and hugh and the team for putting together what has been a busy show. of course, the police still pursuing kyle clifford in what is considered to be a triple murder investigation. he's on the run. we'll bring you more on that throughout the afternoon and evening here on gb news. dewbs& co is up next, presented by the brilliant emily carver. and don't forget to join for us breakfast 6 am. tomorrow with stephen and ellie, followed by britain's newsroom at 930 andrew and bev then tom and emily with good afternoon britain from midday. there you go folks. well, look, really enjoyed being with you this afternoon. i'll see you friday at eight. come on, england, it's the weather . next. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

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drizzly rain, although it will ease by tomorrow morning, will still be there. so still quite a lot of cloud around for eastern areas of scotland. dry across the west across parts of northern ireland as well, and there'll be more in the way of fine weather here through thursday. the rain shifts into parts of north wales, into the midlands as well through thursday. but across the south coast, a bright start to the day and it should stay dry once again. across the south through thursday, with the best of the highest temperatures across the south. two into the afternoon, though, will cloud over a little from the north across many southern areas, and that rain will continue for parts of north wales and many northern areas of england. we could see some heavy showers breaking out as well , showers breaking out as well, but across the far north—west a much drier day compared to today. temperatures climbing towards the mid to high teens for some of us in the best of that sunshine as well into thursday evening. continued risk of some heavy showers for some central areas. we'll start to see a risk of some showers pushing up from the south as well, bringing a risk of rain to southeastern areas on friday. but it does look generally to

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live in enfield two and sir keir starmer. he's gone to washington for the 75th anniversary of nato . for the 75th anniversary of nato. but can we trust labour when it comes to our defence? back to bafics comes to our defence? back to basics. let's ask do we need to spend more on our defence and almost half of conservative party members think they should merge with nigel farage's reform uk. is that a good idea or an absolute recipe for disaster?

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