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>> airlifted to hospital also tonight , i >> airlifted to hospital also tonight, i find some of the commentary coming out of the home office inexplicable. >> you think you have the dream to send refugees to rwanda? for example? yes >> believe it or not, this is
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the man who could be the new head of keir starmer's border command. >> and we're setting up a major new approach to law enforcement against the criminal gangs who are undermining our border security and putting lives at risk. >> is labour about to sign us up to an eu illegal migrant quota? >> plus, i will not apologise for fighting for a society that knows what a woman is . knows what a woman is. >> kemi badenoch and suella braverman have just gone to war. also >> no, no, i'm not interested in what? what colour rosettes, you know, in government next year you know well have striking junior doctors now expose themselves as little more than political activists plus jority of people that i've met in england that are english know not all of them obviously can't speak for everyone ever. >> but there's a good proportion of them that are just horrible people. >> if so many young people hate britain, why don't they just leave? >> or so i take this oath under
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protest and in the hope that one day my fellow citizens will democratically decide to live in a republic, bore off clive lewis, you little attention seeker and most importantly, the county must oppose mask bans for any reason. >> they do not keep us safer . >> they do not keep us safer. >> they do not keep us safer. >> is that the most hysterical mask wearer you've ever seen? on my panel tonight is the director of the popular conservatives, mark littlewood. we've got political guru at the spectator, james heale and author rebecca reid. oh, and can you tell me what happens next here, mr pancake? >> right around . don't move. >> right around. don't move. >> right around. don't move. >> get on your belly. get on the belly. >> on your feet. >> on your feet. >> get ready. britain. here we go . go. bnngin go. bring in the juggler and fire someone out of a cannon. because the tory circus is in town. next.
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>> the top stories from the gb newsroom tonight. the chief suspect in a triple murder in hertfordshire was located by police this afternoon . following police this afternoon. following an extensive manhunt. hertfordshire police were searching for 26 year old kyle clifford and they surrounded a cemetery in north london. paramedics and air ambulance, as well as forensics teams were on the scene. it's understood the three murdered women in hertfordshire, aged 25, 28 and 61, with a wife and two daughters of bbc racing commentator john daughters of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt. the force said this evening the suspect is receiving medical treatment , receiving medical treatment, having been found in enfield in north london, with injuries. police have confirmed no shots were fired. residents who live close to the murder scene some 30 minutes away, described the incident as tragic and disturbing . disturbing. >> because this is such as everyone is saying, such a quiet area, such a safe place where
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there's never been any sort of cause for concern now, for something so heinous to have happenedin something so heinous to have happened in such close proximity to all of us, we're all very on edge. >> i've never seen so many police in my life that they're crazy. absolutely crazy. >> the deaths of three ladies in the same household is incredibly regrettable, and it's very shocking and scaring for local people . people. >> now, in other news today, sir keir starmer has said he wants to use the nato summit in washington to reset relations with world leaders, as well as sending a message to russia's president putin. the summit marks achaea's debut on the world stage as prime minister less than a week after his landslide election victory, which installed him in number 10. he is due to hold detailed talks with joe biden at the white house later on this evening. meanwhile, the actor george clooney has today urged joe biden to step down as the democratic nominee for president .
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democratic nominee for president. george clooney, who co—hosted a huge hollywood fundraiser for the president just last month , the president just last month, gathering a record $28 million, appears to have changed his mind after biden's disastrous performance in the first presidential tv debate against donald trump. now, news here at home, a second man has been arrested as part of an investigation into a small boat people smuggling network. the national crime agency says the 25 year old iraqi national was apprehended this morning at an address in preston in lancashire. he was detained on suspicion of facilitating illegal migration and obtaining leave to remain in the uk by deception. it follows the arrest of an iranian national in preston in may, and england are level. it's one all against the netherlands in the euros of the semi—final in germany. the second half has just kicked off. let's show you this special moment from a short time ago.
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>> if you're listening on radio, that's the sound of the fan zone in south london erupting into cheers as harry kane equalised for england with a cool penalty kick, >> there's a huge turnout at fan parks across the country as they root for the three lions, including, a little bit more subdued now as they are in south london. the winner of tonight's match facing spain in the final on sunday. england expects those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an houn middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> the conservative party is having the kind of day at the battle of the somme where everyone died, and nobody gained
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any ground. kemi badenoch took a machine gun to rishi sunak shadow cabinet yesterday, ripping into sunak over his election blunders, in particular his decision to leave d—day commemorations early . the shadow commemorations early. the shadow housing secretary, who is seen as a front runner now for the tory leadership contest, said that colleagues like penny mordaunt would still be mps today if he had stayed in france for longer. she also said that suella braverman appeared to be having a very public nervous breakdown. and finally, she emphasised that shadow cabinet discussions should not be leaked. well, that went well, didn't it? now suella braverman has hit back , tweeting i'd be has hit back, tweeting i'd be interested in knowing whether kemi thinks i am having a very pubuc kemi thinks i am having a very public nervous breakdown. hashtag honesty, hashtag unity, hashtag. we don't leak. and today this is what she told gb news exclusively about her vision for the party. >> we must change and adapt or die. that's what this is about because we have no god given
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entitlement to people's votes and people's support. there's too many in my party who are still complacent. they think that reform is a fad. there'll be a busted flush in a few years time. people will come back to us as labour fails on some of these policies, and we can sit back and just wait. i'm not in that camp. this is a crisis for our party. >> braverman's view is perhaps to be expected, given that almost half of tory voters want them to merge with reform. but now richard tice has ruled out a merger with the tories, so they'll have to wallow in their own mess for a bit longer, won't they? yesterday they had the chance to elect the new chairman of the backbench 1922 committee, who will decide how the next tory leader is chosen. that went down about as badly as a giggle at a funeral . at a funeral. >> text here from the whips office yesterday, saying the polls would be open from 5 to 6. >> i got there at 545 and i was told the polls had closed because someone had sent out a
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whatsapp message about an hour earlier. so now the polls are closing at 530. saw bob blackman earlier this evening and i said you must rerun this. there were 23 out of 121 tory mps who didn't vote. >> all right, so here's the latest opinion polls on who tory members want as their next leader. yeah, we can see them on the screen there. kemi badenoch is very much top. we've got suella braverman on 16, tom tugendhat, jeremy hunt, james cleverly, robert jenrick, priti patel and victoria atkins bringing up the rear. but andrew mitchell , who essentially used mitchell, who essentially used to stand in for david cameron as foreign secretary, wants him to wait until at least october and the tory party conference until they decide , well, they can put they decide, well, they can put they decide, well, they can put the names out now. >> but the critical thing is the party conference so that the whole party can have a good look at them. >> right. okay fine. but in the meantime, we could have labour announcing a new budget, a new foreign policy, a new immigration policy, a new relationship with the eu votes for 16 year olds. and goodness knows what else. as it stands,
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we have an elected dictatorship and that is bad for britain. let's get the thoughts of my panel let's get the thoughts of my panel. now i'm joined by the director of the popular conservatives, mark littlewood. i've got the political correspondent at the spectator, james hill, and author and journalist rebecca reid. now, mark, i'll start with you on this, have we got an elected dictatorship? do the tories not need to get their backsides in gear sharpish? >> well, we don't have an elected dictatorship. >> we have a government with a landslide majority. and look, it's going to be very difficult for the conservatives to hold them to account until the tories get their own house in order. and i can understand, patrick, why your viewers might be impatient with the party taking some time to do that, but they should take some time to do that. if there was a snap leadership election. now, i don't know the mps whittling it down to the top two in the next 72 hours and then the members voting in the next three weeks. all of those decisions are likely to be made in the context of anger and bitterness, far
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better to take a few months to get the right decision. >> fine. but in that few months time, james, we could have, as i've just rattled off there, you know, a labour budget, potentially a brand new immigration scheme, a brand new foreign policy , votes for 16 foreign policy, votes for 16 year olds, all sorts of stuff with no opposition. >> quite. but also, i think this is balancing up the medium and long term needs of the party, as well as the kind of short term one. i think the look, the key thing that everyone needs to have is a bit of competence. i think yesterday what happened with bob blackman package, we were talking about mark francois in terms of, you know, the kind of thing that went on there is exactly the kind of things they don't need right now. what it's really about is kind of balancing the ship. i think keeping going in the next few months. i don't really think that there's going to be any great waves made on the first budget by the tories, because it's going to be very difficult to get a hearing. i think they need a couple of years really kind of putting the whole thing back together, and then they get to write the only hearing once again. >> yeah, i mean, keir starmer has been handed his dream start on a play, including that farcical situation last night. the very first thing the
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conservatives had to do, rebecca, after taking a monumental kicking at the general election, was to elect the new leader of the 1922 and as it currently stands, that leader is not being accepted by people because they couldn't even organise the vote on time. >> yeah, and what you what they need to be doing is saying, how do we make it look like we're the grown ups again? how do we present that we are calm, sensible adults who aren't going to change leader every 30s who aren't going to just scream, what's a woman in people's faces? and this is not giving that impression. and the worse they do, the better they make my side. look, i'm having the best week ever. this is like real housewives of westminster. it's just gossipy drama. i'm loving it, but it's not for good your lot. >> but the but it's not good for the country either, because a country, it's great for the country, it's great for the country, but doing nothing in opposition. it's not for good democracy. a country needs an opposition and he's not getting it in the media. keir starmer is it. they're all sitting around their absolute loving. i'm surprised no one took the song down. >> it's been less than a week. yeah. >> but so what i mean you don't see that having that would not be the case with anybody else. they're all they're loving. oh. have you found your way around downing street? yeah. they're all they're on the plane. they're sitting on his flipping lap as he's on the way to note.
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look the only tory who's had a good week, patrick, is bob blackman. >> he's the only conservative in the country who managed to get more than 50% of the vote in his constituency, the only one. and then he did actually get more than 50% of the total tory mps. so even if people like mark francois missed it, it wouldn't affected the vote, look, it is going to take a little bit of time. i would do this if i was the tory party. i'd put some of the tory party. i'd put some of the old guard up, like the jeremy hunt's of this world and their only job is to hold labour to account on a day to day business level in the house of commons, fighting against the ludicrous votes for 16. i mean, you've got to have an airing there. but let's be clear, with there. but let's be clear, with the majority of 170, this stuff's going to pass right? it's not really it doesn't really matter in parliament how the conservatives vote. it's a colossal majority. it's about the public debate. so i'd ask the public debate. so i'd ask the old hands, like jeremy hunt, who i understand has no leadership ambitions to try and run the opposition . well, the run the opposition. well, the rest of the party, the next generation of the party decides what its leadership is. i think you can do that in parallel. >> i mean, they're eating themselves alive at the moment. you've got kemi badenoch taking a machine gun to that shadow cabinet and saying, you know, oh yeah, i'm dead against leaks and
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a mysteriously, that thing comes out, despite the fact that it obviously makes kemi bad, not look quite good. so a load of voters, i mean, forgive me, i don't think it takes a genius to work out what's going on there. and then you've got suella braverman, you know, making some comments about the progress flag, which, by the way, i thought were absolutely fair enough. but the usual times in the media decided to call an absolute aberration and a load of wet tories have climbed on that and gone, oh, she's got to rule herself out now. great. fantastic. meanwhile, nigel farage is wandering around the corridors of parliament. parliamentary staff are being asked to stop taking selfies with him. you know, i mean, the whole thing is an absolute farce, isn't it? i mean, what who do the tories put in now? >> i think what they need more than anything, rather than a long process or a short process, is a rigorous process. and i think they need to make sure that the way in which they're asking these questions in different hustings is actually going to be questioning the big things. it's not just about the who, it's about the what and the how and the where, which is about where are they going to win the country, how do they get to that position and what actually it means to be a conservative. and i think one of the key things you started with patrick as well was that key
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question, that essential question, that essential question about the future with reform and nigel farage. do they do a deal or not? and i think that's going to be the key thing to kind of tease out in this debate, as well as relearning the habits of opposition. >> i honestly think, why on earth would nigel farage want to do a deal with this lot? >> i think because if i were the tories, i'd be thinking about maybe our new thing isn't going to be culture wars. it's going to be culture wars. it's going to be culture wars. it's going to be does our political system work? is it should we be looking at something like pr and that reform would be more enthusiastic about them, won't they? but that would be something new. it could be their new kind of brexit vibe. it's not a left right divide at the moment. it's an interesting new conversation to be having. and while you're running that you can be looking at bringing up new talent because labour has got a load of 20 and early 30 something mps who have got long careers ahead of them. because the tories have been so busy fighting fires, they haven't had time invest in new talent and time to invest in new talent and they need that for the next election. and the one after that. >> well, here's the thing that i hope that the next leader of the conservative party becomes prime minister. but let's be honest here, when the conservatives elect their new leader, we're not necessarily looking for the next prime minister. we're looking for a surgeon or a doctor or a necromancer to revive the dead corpse of the conservative party. that's the priority, actually . and the priority, actually. and the conservatives have come out of
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this election very, very badly injured. but they are still the second party in vote share and in seats. stabilising that for a year or two is the overriding priority. .getthat wrong and the priority. .get that wrong and the party, i think if they spend their time taking little , little their time taking little, little swipes at niggly little things the whole time, they're only going to look more child like. they need to act like each other, of having nervous breakdowns in public, and they've got to stop the personality and also they should be willing the government to do a good job. >> they want the country to thrive. they should be saying we want keir to do well for a bit, and then we're going to starmer in the labour party blocked every single piece of legislation that was coming. >> i mean, by the time it was too late to be salvageable, by the time it was too late to be salvageable. >> but it's pathetic to sit there wishing ill on someone who's trying to fix the country. >> i think it's really interesting, though, that of the shadow cabinet appointments, there was no one kind of like 2005, and cameron coming off the rails. i think all the names we're talking about this time have previously been floated in previous races. of the eight you put on the screen, six of them previously. >> you know what i wonder is whether or not the great british pubucis whether or not the great british public is ever going to forgive
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that particular concoction of the conservative party for allowing the situation to happen that we've got now. and as we're going to talk about a bit later on in the show, you know, the chap who could be the new head of the border command is openly, incredibly woke as absolutely. >> isn't that exciting? >> isn't that exciting? >> well, not really, if you want him in charge of border i'm excited. agree. this man is not going to be able not going to be able to want to get to grips with absolutely anything in the channeli with absolutely anything in the channel i mean, he was talking about the metropolitan police need to admit that they're still institutionally racist. i mean, this does not bode well for people who want to see tougher border controls. and if labour can continue to do this stuff and plough it through, and we end up with some kind of quota system with the eu, it is the conservatives who still have to carry the can for allowing this situation to happen. but anyway, as junior doctors in celebrate shock, horror , a positive first shock, horror, a positive first meeting with wes streeting were they playing politics with patients lives and the nationwide manhunt for the triple murder suspect kyle clifford has come to an end after he was detained in a grave yard in london. we're going to go live to anfield for all the latest on that. but before all of that, ex—mi6 boss sir richard dearlove says that sir keir
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starmer should prioritise defence spending over the nhs. i will be joined by sir richard as he goes head to head with former labour spokesman james matthewson . that's next matthewson. that's next exchange.
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight we are only on gb news now. coming up. were they just playing politics with
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patients lives all along? i am, of course , talking about the of course, talking about the junior doctors. i've got what i think is quite a revealing clip actually. some would argue it's receipts from one of the heads of the junior doctors at the bma. when i spoke to him a few months ago, asking him about how these strikes might end and now, shock, horror, we've got a labour government and, you know, here we are. but first, should the new labour government prioritise defence spending over the nhs, it's time for tonight's head to head . well, sir keir head to head. well, sir keir starmer landed in washington, didn't he, for the latest nato summit earlier today with an eye on increasing defence spending to 2.5% of gdp , we will carry to 2.5% of gdp, we will carry out our strategic review to look at the challenges, the capabilities and on the back of that, make further plans. >> i am committed to that 2.5% within our fiscal rules , but within our fiscal rules, but that strategic review needs to come first. >> what's worth bearing in mind that we currently spend a lot more on the nhs around 11% of our gdp, with health secretary
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wes streeting now pledging to end the, quote, begging bowl culture of the health service. well, former mi6 chief sir richard dearlove has issued a stark warning to starmer , saying stark warning to starmer, saying that defence spending should be at least 3% of gdp and that it is more important than funding the national health service. so tonight i'm asking should we prioritise defence spending over the nhs? i want to hear from you. you go to gbnews.com forward, slash your say tweet me @gbnews. and while you're there make sure you go and vote in our poll. i'll bring you the results very shortly. but first going head to head on. this was the man himself, sir richard dearlove, who made those comments, and former labour spokesman james matthewson. well, sir richard, i might as well start with you on this, i think. is it is it accurate to say that you think it's more important that we fund defence and the nhs ? and the nhs? >> i'm afraid at the moment, definitely . yes. there is an definitely. yes. there is an urgency about this issue. i'll do a rather trite simile. it's 1938. d0 do a rather trite simile. it's 1938. do you build spitfires or
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do you build hospitals? you want to do both. you can't do both. it's clear which you should do first. we are engaged in a various serious conflict in europe. we have depleted armed forces. and look, we've just seen a children's hospital in ukraine targeted by the russians . ukraine targeted by the russians. what's the point of building a new hospital when it's vulnerable? okay, we're not ukraine, but i'm trying just to get across the urgency and the importance of this situation. and i think fixing the national health service, which we all know is essential, is going to take time. but on the defence issue, we may not have the luxury of time. we may need to move immediately. so i'm not saying don't spend on the national health service. i'm saying look at the defence
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issues first. >> yeah, fine. i'll come back to you on that and i'll bring you in now, james, because, i mean, there is a point there, there is no point in a new hospital if putin is just going to kind of nuke us anyway, right? >> well, i mean , that's understandable. >> and i understand where sir richard's coming from with this. and i think it is, you know, i mean, we need to listen to people like sir richard who have the experience on defence about how important it is right now, given the world stage and where everything is at. however, it is important to acknowledge the fact we are not at war, we are not currently at war, and we do not currently at war, and we do not have a war economy at the moment. now we understand the gravity of the situation in europe. we understand the gravity of the situation in the middle east as well. and of course, tensions are running high, but we are not ourselves at war. what we are seeing at the moment is a complete crisis of health care provision in the uk, from dentistry to normal healthcare provision, to access to gps, to doctors, to appointments, people with cancer appointments, people with cancer appointments, waiting months and
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months and months. and it's causing, you know, a crisis and i think when it comes to defend, the argument is always that , you the argument is always that, you know, a government has to protect its population. you have to also protect the population from illness, from disease and from illness, from disease and from death. and that's part of the national health service duty. >> sir richard, are we actually at war? >> we are in a state of hybrid warfare with russia. we're in a state of grey war. but if you wish for peace, prepare for war. we've had many historical examples and look, i'm not minimising the problem of fixing the issue of health care. it's hugely important to all of us. and of course, it's an immediate issue for many individuals. but for example, during the election campaign, there was no discussion at all of the urgency of the security. we have smaller armed forces or we have the smallest armed forces in the uk
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since we've had since napoleonic times, and that is a major war in europe, which could escalate at any time. we're in a position of weakness and i think that we could do things initially to improve our defence situation. and okay, the nhs is an urgency as well. but i think in this particular case, the security of the nation comes first. the security of the individual in this instance comes second in terms of healthcare. >> yeah. okay. and look , i mean >> yeah. okay. and look, i mean i'm just having a look here. the nhs spending in 2022 to 2023 was £181] nhs spending in 2022 to 2023 was £181.7 billion, okay. that was on day to day items. the vast majority of it, such as staff salaries and medicines. i do put it to you, james, that when you look at the nhs, spending is 11% of our gdp and a lot of that being spent on day to day items, but also the salaries of people
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who work in that nhs. a if we have the kind of crisis that you're describing in the nhs, actually some people who work in the nhs need to be blamed for that and not the government, but also how much more money do we just pump into this bottomless pit when potentially we are about to have an actual conflict ? about to have an actual conflict? >> as much as you need to? patrick is the reality because we have a free universal healthcare system in this country and that's something we should we don't know, do we? >> because we all pay for it. now this is important. we it's not free. the nhs is not free, james. we pay for it. you know how the system works. >> you know how the system works through taxation. the point is that you and i get the same with respect. >> this is. this is. this is , >> this is. this is. this is, you know, the classic view of people on the left. right. you don't see taxation as actually people's money. you just see it as other people's money, don't you? so it doesn't really affect you. but we all pay. we all pay for it. and so, so i think, i reckon i wonder, james, whether or not more people would rather we fended off a global conflict than actually just incinerated
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another £100 billion into, you know, within shore hospital , for know, within shore hospital, for goodness sake, one running countries and running nation states is not a new thing. >> patrick, you have responsibilities across the board, from healthcare to defence. you can do all of it. you can do all of it. run in a country works. it has worked before . look at the look at the before. look at the look at the crisis we've been through in the past. in previous wars, as sir richard points to where we've also managed to maintain, you know, i mean, our health care system was born after the second world war, and there was a reason that people voted for that clement attlee government and not the churchill government, despite the fact that churchill had just won a world war, because people recognise the importance of providing healthcare and providing healthcare and providing a welfare state and bafic providing a welfare state and basic provision for everybody in our country, we should be proud of that fact and i'm proud to pay a of that fact and i'm proud to pay a tax, you know, and i'm sure as you you know, i pay a lot of tax and i'm very proud of that fact. and i should be, because i can contribute to a system where everybody receives a level of provision that we should be proud of. >> right. okay. and you're not
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bothered about the massive levels of waste. look, sir richard, i'll just bring you in on this. i mean, you do have an insight into this that frankly, possibly only a handful of people in the country do have. and, you know, if i may, could you just imagine that our new prime minister, sir keir starmer, is here? what what will you say to him now when it comes to this ? because it does look as to this? because it does look as though they are prioritising things like the nhs over our actual national defence. >> i think he's got to sit down with the people that understand this and understand the urgency of the threats to our national security. now, i'm not asking for, you know, a massive change in government resources, but you take 1% of gdp and switch it to defence, okay? that's going to be costly. that's going to be difficult. but what i find shocking is that i didn't hear starmer, i didn't actually hear rishi sunak either stand up dunng rishi sunak either stand up during the election campaign and explain to the voters the seriousness of the international situation. i think we have to
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understand that we've got a massive problem in front of us how. >> now. >> i don't think people want to be scared as well. that's that's part of the thing. if i can scare people into thinking realistically about this, i think i'm making a contribution to national security. >> i think people should be worried and there are all sorts of things going on. i mean, the russians are regarding this as a state of war. it's a it's a hybnd state of war. it's a it's a hybrid war. it's a grey war. it's an undeclared war. but it's still a very serious situation. and we need to take to action mitigate the threat. and we're not yet doing that. a defence review great idea, but how long is it going to take. yeah, it's going to be a way of sort of delaying the issue. delaying. is it going to take two weeks. is it going to take two weeks. is it going to take two weeks. is it going to take three weeks? i think you could carry out a defence review in in a month. if you call on the right people to explain the situation. and i'd like to see starmer say, right,
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2.5% now rising to 3% very quickly. and we can do the national health service in parallel . i see the urgency of parallel. i see the urgency of that, but it doesn't need to be done quite so quickly as this other issue. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> i would, i would, i would really like to see an urgent review into nhs waste as well , review into nhs waste as well, to be honest with you, because i think that's an absolute disgrace really. all right. both of you, look, thank you very, very much. so who do you agree with? there should starmer prioritise defence spending over the nhs? mary says defence is first and foremost the most important thing for a government. if we are not safe, we won't be healthy. yasin says health spending is the foundation of any civilised society without a properly funded nhs, we will move backwards. society that's fine. but what is properly funded? yasin £181.7 billion annually, i would argue, is something that is properly funded and will we all continue to stand there and clap while they slap another rainbow flag around an nhs building? and putin rolls the tanksin? building? and putin rolls the tanks in? janet, on your say
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says the nhs doesn't need more money. it needs to be better managed and i am very much on janet's side. your verdict is in 75% of you think that we should prioritise defence spending over the nhs. well, 25% of you say that we should not coming up in the past few hours, the manhunt for the triple murder suspect, kyle clifford, has come to an end in the most dramatic of circumstances after he was detained in a cemetery in london. we'll go live to the scene for all of the very latest on that, and i'll also be joined by a police sergeant and author, harry tanguy, and former detective chief superintendent of the met, kevin hurley. i want to know about how this police manhunt went down. i also know a few things about how easy it is to get a crossbow in this country as well. but next, the junior doctors have sat down with wes streeting just once and they are heralding the meeting as positive and constructive. well, let's be honest, during the strikes they were playing politics with patients lives, weren't they? i'll face off against a gp back in
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news. we'll bring you all the very latest on that triple murder suspect, karl clifford. in just a few moments. but first, junior doctors have hailed , quote, doctors have hailed, quote, positive and collaborative face to face talks with the new health secretary, wes streeting. the co—chairs of the bma's junior doctors committee. doctor robert laurenson and doctor vivek trivedi. confident that the pay row can now be resolved without further strikes . well,
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without further strikes. well, it's a remarkable change of tune, this isn't it, from the previously militant union reps that refused to budge on their whopping 35% pay increase demand. but given that streeting has previously ruled out meeting, that demand question has now been raised as to whether or not the strikes were politically motivated and designed to punish the previous tory government, that's something i actually put to doctor robert laurenson earlier this year . this year. >> westminster needs to have a general election in the next thoughts political, isn't it? >> that's what you're talking about. >> that's what you're talking about . you see it's got about. you see it's got political quite quickly there. general election, change of government, labour government. >> no, no i'm not interested in what what colour rosettes you know, in government next year. you know when i look at my pound coins or my in my wallet, i don't have a labour rosette on it or a tory tree on it. it doesn't matter to me . doesn't matter to me. >> interesting. well, yesterday's meeting comes after the latest round of industrial action ended last week, timed to deliberately coincide with the general election, which meant that no negotiations could possibly take place. indeed, since doctors began their
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industrial dispute over 20 months ago, a whopping 1.4 million appointments have been postponed, with roughly 6.3 million patients still waiting for treatment. i'm very glad to be joined now by the chief executive of doncaster local medical council, doctor dean eggert. dean thank you very much. great to have you on the show. the junior doctor has just been exposed here playing politics with patients lives, >> i it's hard to say no, really, because let's be honest, striking is political. >> trying to change the terms and conditions of employment is political. >> and it's. >> and it's. >> no it's no hidden secret, really, that a labour government tends to be more supportive of unions. >> so it's hardly surprising, really, that junior doctors or or any union would want the conservative government out and to be negotiating with the labour government. and it's hardly surprising that the first chats were positive. of course, every first chat is going to be positive until you come across a roadblock and then it starts to deteriorate, >> i just wonder whether or not that will actually mean anything to the people who died while the
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doctors were on strike or their relatives, you know ? relatives, you know? >> yeah, that's it's a difficult quote that, isn't it, because research has been done about the impact of strikes. >> and actually looking back to the junior doctor strikes, i think it was 2016. so there's no evidence at all that there is increased people dying, but there's certainly evidence that some people will suffer as a consequence. and in particular, ethnic minorities tend to suffer more than those who aren't minority groups. so do strikes cause harm to patients? and sadly, the evidence seems to be yes. >> yeah. well, i mean, obviously i mean, if you're a healthcare professional and you decide not to go into work, then people will become less healthy. i just wonder how doctors justify that to themselves . i'm also to themselves. i'm also concerned about the reality, which is they're after a 35% pay increase. supposedly they see it as pay restoration. but that's another question. i suppose . and another question. i suppose. and i did actually put to doctor lawrenson whether or not if he got that 35% pay increase, he would still just leave and go to another healthcare system abroad like australia, america or canada. and i've got a little
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clip of it now , but you could be clip of it now, but you could be a part of all of this now and then. just leave. >> anyway, i to hope have a long and successful career about 4050. >> are you actively planning on going to canada or australia as it currently stands right now ? it currently stands right now? no. but you're not ruling it out in the future . in the future. >> oh, correct. i'm not ruling it out in the future. no >> yeah. i'm just wondering, you know, when you hear all of this and we talk about it, do you actually support the junior doctors when they're out on strike? would you support them if they went on strike again? >> no, i don't support striking junior doctors. i support the cause of the junior doctors. so i think it's right that junior doctors need the pay increase. they call it restoration. i think they need to be paid more. i think we need to look at their terms and conditions. it's a really, really challenging job with reasonably low pay in comparison to what they do. and that certainly needs to be looked at. but do i think striking is the way right way to go about that? absolutely not. i think it needs to be done by negotiation and trying to resolve the issue at hand and talking to each other. and a lot of the junior. >> yeah, i mean, a lot of it is
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about bringing the public with you, though, right? you know, people went outside and clapped for the nhs. people actually locked themselves inside and lost their jobs to protect the nhs . and then at the first nhs. and then at the first chances that they've got a lot of these junior doctors who i get what you mean about, you say that they're not paid well for what they do, but i mean, they're paid a huge amount more than the majority of people in society. they've got absolutely cracking pensions and their potential career earnings going down the line are immense. so, you know, do they really have any right to do this. do you worry that maybe they've lost all the public sympathy? >> now we're looking at polls. the junior doctors don't seem to have lost public sympathy at the moment. actually, the public remains in support. if not, support has grown for junior doctors. i don't necessarily think that's because of the plight of the junior doctors. i think it's because the conservative government have done such a terrible job in negotiating with them. so this is where wes streeting has an opportunity here to try and do something about winning over patient support on behalf of the government, rather than the junior doctors. yes, doctors are well paid junior doctors , not
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well paid junior doctors, not well paid junior doctors, not well paid. but the crux of the matter is if we don't do something about their pay and terms and conditions, we will lose them . lose them. >> and if we lose, they're going to go anyway. this is. this is the thing. this is why i played that clip. you know, you've got the guy there on record. even if he gets what he wants, he's going to have a long and happy career in in being a doctor. and you know, the allure of bondi beach comes calling even if you've got the complexion of doctor robert lawrenson, i'm afraid . but doctor robert lawrenson, i'm afraid. but as doctor robert lawrenson, i'm afraid . but as the chief afraid. but as the chief executive of doncaster, local medical councillor , doctor dean, medical councillor, doctor dean, thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show. look coming up, a former police chief who once said that he was be woke, i lead labour's attempts to stop the boats. starmer, a soft touch should we fear an eu illegal migrant quota? my panel got stuck into that shortly. but next? yeah the manhunt for triple murder suspect carl clifford has ended in the past few hours after he was detained and taken out of a cemetery in north london. we'll go live to the scene for all the latest, and i'll be joined by two chiefs well, for their verdict on what we've seen
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okay. welcome back. look. coming up. should we fear an eu migrant quota? but first, in the past few hours , the countrywide few hours, the countrywide manhunt for triple murder suspect carl clifford came to an end.he suspect carl clifford came to an end. he was detained in a cemetery in north london. our gb news reporter is actually at that graveyard for us now. theo chikomba. theo, thank you very much. what happened then? what was the latest? please >> yes. well, this investigation has been moving at speed. kyle clifford, 26 year old, was wanted as a suspect in connection with the murder of three women in the bushey area in in north london, now of course, the police have been working throughout the day to establish the facts to find out what happened. but it was just before 7 pm. yesterday where they were called to an incident in bushey, and there they
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attended to three women, but unfortunately the emergency services who attended the scene were not able to help them and they were pronounced dead on the scene. and today there's been a heavy police presence in that neighbourhood. and throughout the day we were getting information here and there, finding out what is the latest from the police. and it was just before midday when we found out from the police, hertfordshire police saying that he may be in possession of a crossbow. and i think that from that moment it kind of escalated and it got , kind of escalated and it got, armed police and more involved in this extensive search. and in early this evening we found out that just here at this cemetery in enfield, he was found and police say although he was injured, there was no shots fired. they confirmed that. and he was taken to hospital in an ambulance, which left this afternoon. now we understand he's still in hospital being treated with injuries, but we
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haven't been provided with any further updates as of yet. but what's been interesting is the speed of this just under 24 hours that this operation has taken and of course, the police are continuing and are urging anyone with information to get in touch with them by calling 999. >> all right, theo, thank you very, very much . theo chikomba very, very much. theo chikomba there from the scene of that graveyard where the suspect was detained, i'm joined now by police sergeant and author harry tanguy and former detective chief superintendent of the met police, kevin hurley. both of you.thank police, kevin hurley. both of you. thank you very, very much , you. thank you very, very much, harry. i'll start with you. i actually think that 24 hours just under sounds like a heck of a long time for a man who is suspected of a triple murder in absolutely gruesome and horrific circumstances. what are your thoughts ? thoughts? >> oh, every. every minute feels like an hour to those police officers who undoubtedly it was their number one priority to find this man, the longer it's
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left, of course, the more chance he's got to move away from the scene. i think the longer it left, they probably thought he had probably taken his own life. perhaps, like abdul azazi, and of course, that's relatively common in a situation such, such as this where someone is so desperate. and so i think it's great news. personally, i want to see justice done now. and i know members of the public will think exactly the same. it would have been a bit of a get out for this individual, this suspect, we must say . i this individual, this suspect, we must say. i suppose officially he is a suspect. that he hasn't taken his life and that this poor man, the father and husband of this family can see some sort of justice. it is a long time, but it could have been longer if he had, if someone really wants to hide themselves for a. >> well, this is it. this is it. and details are emerging over the course of the day that he had some kind of military
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experience as well. and i think that added to the concern that actually maybe this guy inaya to hide himself. actually maybe this guy inaya to hide himself . again, i want to hide himself. again, i want to emphasise he is a suspect at the moment. kevin, look, what can we read into what we know so far, which is that this individual was detained as it currently stands, we're not hearing he's been officially arrested or charged with anything . so, i charged with anything. so, i mean, a police still keeping an open mind here. >> well, they they will be keeping an open mind. but the big thing that they will have been working on right from the get go is forensic evidence. because whether or not this is the right person and one assumes he probably is because i, i understand he had a relationship at one stage with one of the girls who's unfortunately dead, and i guess they got that from the father. >> it must be in a real shocked condition. come home from work and find that. but what they've been, what they will be doing. really packing it in is forensic examinations of that crime scene. forensic examinations of
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his see at the car. they will then want to be seizing his clothes. they'll want to know where he was before, to see if he's left forensic evidence anywhere there, because they're going to be relying on things like blood splatter, dna evidence, fibre transfer, shoe print lifts. so there's going to be a wealth of forensic evidence, probably in the car, that the guy left the scene in, assuming that he is the actual person responsible. and of course , the clothes, if there course, the clothes, if there was a fight or he's got hold of anyone , the fibres on the anyone, the fibres on the clothes will be transferred across to each other. they will probably have been shoe prints on the wood floors in that house. so they'll want the shoes, so their big issue, what part of the drive was public safety to find him quickly. and the other drive from the investigator point of view will be to get him as quick as possible to preserve as much forensic evidence as they could. >> now, we are a little bit
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pressed for time, but, harry, can i just ask, what is the situation when it comes to owning a crossbow in the uk at the moment? again, that is one of the weapons that was believed to be used by whoever may have done this. >> yes, you can legally own a crossbow. you can fire it in your garden as long as it's safe to do so, and it doesn't overshoot that garden. members of public in in danger. however, you can't, walk around with it willy nilly. you have to have a very good reason to do that, i personally think, i personally think a law change is not going to change this if somebody is that determined, they are that determined, and no law is going to stop that. >> yeah, i know indeed . and >> yeah, i know indeed. and yeah, kevin, i think i've just about got time for a final word for you on this. i mean, how common are these kind of incidents? not obviously, specifically when it comes to the scale of the manhunt. but you know, in britain to see this, this, this scale of slaughter really in a suburban area ? area? >> well, i mean, it's pretty it's not that common. but in these domestic situations where people behave extremely irrationally, it does happen from time to time. i remember
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the case of, the eastenders actress who was murdered by her partner and a couple of kids. you remember that in bexleyheath? this kind of thing happens from time to time . happens from time to time. unfortunately, human emotions being what they are, you can get some pretty bad stuff done if people don't self—regulate and they've got some kind of mental problem. >> well, can i just say a massive thank you to both of you? much appreciated. coming on, having a bit of your wisdom there in how the search operation will have gone and the kind of things the police will have been looking for and where we are right now. that was a former police sergeant and author, harry tang, and former detective chief superintendent at the met police, kevin hurley. so thank you very, very much . so thank you very, very much. well, moving on from that. now, a new poll among tory members has put kemi badenoch with double the support of suella braverman. but who would make a better conservative leader? i'm going to be joined by former government minister, the ever outspoken dame andrea jenkins. who's side is she on? she's not going to hold back. but next, the former police chief, who
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once said he was proud to be woke, is in line to lead sir keir starmer's attempts to stop the boats. is it about to be open season for illegal migrants in the channel under the labour party? this is patrick christys tonight. oh, i'm also going to be looking at an eu migrant quota as well. stay tuned for that. we're only on gb news but now it's time for your weather with annie shuttleworth. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. rain will ease slowly but surely through tonight. however, it is going to be another cloudy day for most of us through tomorrow. that's because low pressure is very much in charge. we've got a northerly wind as well for some areas that's bringing that particularly cool feel, particularly cool feel, particularly for mid early, the early part of july. so rain will persist for north eastern areas of scotland as well as some northern areas of england, parts of northern ireland as well. but
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the rain is going to ease a little and we will lose that risk of thunderstorms through northern areas of england staying dry across the south, temperatures around 12 or 13 degrees as a minimum overnight, so a fairly mild start to the day. but as i said, where we do have that northerly wind across parts of scotland, that's where it's going to feel quite cool through much of the day. temperatures not climbing much higher than 13 degrees in aberdeen by lunchtime, even 11 degrees to start the day, so there'll be little change from there'll be little change from the morning into the afternoon. a brighter day though, for northern ireland. western areas of scotland cloud, though , of scotland cloud, though, thickening across parts of north wales into the midlands and across many southern areas. the cloud will start to build into the afternoon, but it should stay dry through much of the day across many southern areas. so here, that's where we'll see the warmest temp, the highest temperatures, the warm sunshine still pushing through across parts of the south into wimbledon as well. it should be another dry day on thursday, and there will be more in the way of sunshine for northern ireland, western scotland as well. despite that northerly wind
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temperatures still climbing to the mid—teens, possibly the higher teens for some parts of the central belt by thursday afternoon. looking ahead to friday, we do see a risk of showery rain pushing up from the south and east, threatening the south and east, threatening the south coast. further north, though, it will be a much drier day. but still a northerly wind means temperatures will be a little below par. but not feeling too bad in the sunshine where you do see it and it does look a little bit drier into the start of the weekend. a risk of showers though, developing later on in the weekend, but temperatures climbing to around 23 by sunday. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb
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>> it's 10 pm. on patrick christys tonight. it's harry kane. christys tonight. it's harry kane . england are through to the
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kane. england are through to the final of the euros. but yes, in other news, i find some of the commentary coming out of the home office inexplicable. >> you think you have the dream to send refugees to rwanda for example? yes. >> well, believe it or not, but this is the man who could be the new head of sir keir starmer's border command and setting up a major new approach to law enforcement against the criminal gangs who are undermining our border security and putting lives at risk. is labour about to sign us up to an eu illegal migrant quota ? migrant quota? >> plus, i will not apologise for fighting for a society that knows what a woman is . knows what a woman is. >> kemi badenoch suella braverman have just gone to war. also jority of people that i've met in england that are english. >> not all of them obviously can't speak for everyone ever. >> but there's a good proportion that are just horrible people . that are just horrible people. >> well, there's so many young people hate britain. then why don't they just leave also? >> i take this oath under
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protest and in the hope that one day my fellow citizens will democratically decide to live in a republic, bore off clive lewis , a republic, bore off clive lewis, you little attention seeker. >> and paramedics now running, quite fast, actually, through hilly fields along with, police officers. but this could be unked officers. but this could be linked , we understand. and the linked, we understand. and the search for kyle clifford. >> we're just being a dramatic manhunt ends with the triple murder suspect detained in a graveyard. also tonight. >> most importantly, the county must oppose mask bans for any reason. they do not keep us safer. >> is not the most hysterical mask wearer you've ever seen . mask wearer you've ever seen. i've got a very first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. the director of the popular conservatives, mark little, a political guru at the spectator james heale, and spectatorjames heale, and author and journalist rebecca reid. oh, yes. and i want you to tell me, please, what you think happens next here, mr pancake, you under arrest. >> don't move. >> don't move. >> get on your belly. get on your belly. >> on your feet.
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>> on your feet. >> get ready. britain here we go . >> get ready. britain here we go. labour's potential plan is a woke bloke in charge of border force and an eu illegal migrant quota. next . quota. next. >> and the main news from the gb newsroom tonight at just after 10:00, england are going to berlin on sunday. they've beaten the dutch two one in the euro semi final in germany , securing semi final in germany, securing their spot in the finals against spain. if you're watching on television, england fans in south london let rip with cheers after villa's ollie watkins scored a stoppage time winner. we know, of course, that the dutch were first to score. they led inside seven minutes, then kane levelled from a spot
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penalty. but it was watkins who's the hero of the hour, giving england the lead in the 90th minute. englishmen and women all over the country, unable to believe what's happened. we are going, i should say england is going to berlin on sunday. great news across the country, sweet caroline blaring from the speakers all to other news now and sir keir starmer has said he wants to use the nato summit to reset relations with world leaders and send a message to russia's president putin. the 75th nato summit marks achaea's debut on the world stage as the uk's prime minister, less than a week after the labour landslide win, which put him in number 10, he's due to hold detailed talks with joe biden tonight at the white house. sir keir says the summit is an opportunity to continue galvanising support for ukraine. >> the change of government makes no difference to the support that we will provide. we've been united on this when we were in opposition and it was
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really important to me to be able to affirm that face to face in the meeting. i did speak to him immediately after i was sworn in as prime minister last week, and so we build on that here at nato, at this important summit, because it is an opportunity for our labour government to reaffirm our commitment to nato . commitment to nato. >> well, as i said, the prime minister holding talks with president joe biden tonight at the white house and today the actor george clooney urged joe biden to step down as the democratic nominee for president. george clooney, who co—hosted a huge hollywood fundraiser for the president just last month , gathering just last month, gathering a record $28 million, appears to have had an about face and changed its mind after biden's disastrous performance in the first presidential television debate against donald trump two weeks ago . now, news here in the weeks ago. now, news here in the uk from today and the chief suspect in a triple murder case in hertfordshire was located at this afternoon by police
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following an extensive manhunt, hertfordshire police were searching for 26 year old kyle clifford and they surrounded a cemetery in north london this afternoon . paramedics and an air afternoon. paramedics and an air ambulance, as well as forensics teams, were on scene. it's understood the three murdered women in hertfordshire, aged 25, 28 and 61, were the wife and two daughters of bbc racing commentator john daughters of bbc racing commentatorjohn hunt. the force said the suspect is receiving medical treatment, having been found in enfield with injuries, police have confirmed, though no shots were fired. residents who live close to the murder scene in hertfordshire described the incident as tragic and disturbing for their community because this is such as everyone is saying, such a quiet area, such a safe place where there's never been any sort of cause for concern now for something so heinous to have happened in such close proximity to all of us, we're all very on edge . we're all very on edge. >> i've never seen so many police in my life that they're crazy. absolutely crazy .
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crazy. absolutely crazy. >> the deaths of three ladies in the same household is incredibly regrettable, and it's very shocking and scaring for local people . people. >> now, a new study released today suggested that sugar tax on soft drinks , introduced just on soft drinks, introduced just over six years ago, has in fact to led people consuming significantly less sugar in their diets. the conservative government brought in the rule to tackle obesity and encourage manufacturers to make their products healthier. researchers who followed nearly 8000 adults and more than 7000 children for and more than 7000 children for a year after the tax was introduced, found sugar consumption dropped considerably. that's the news. it's coming home. those are the latest gb news headlines for now , latest gb news headlines for now, i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in and out. i'll see you then . in and out. i'll see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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forward slash alerts. >> now would you believe it? england have made it to the euros final after beating the netherlands in a dramatic semi—final tonight , beating them semi—final tonight, beating them by two goals to one, including a fantastic strike and one of the last minutes of the game. not that i would know, of course, because i'm here, aren't i? but anyway, we now go live to will hollis, who's with some jubilant england supporters up in sheffield. well, unbelievable scenes, i'm told. >> yes. well, it was caution and criticism that trailed england throughout this tournament. but hope and skill got them to this position where they are now going to be facing spain in the final of the euros. we've got a few fans here, guys. what's your reaction to the win tonight ? reaction to the win tonight? >> brilliant . >> brilliant. >> brilliant. >> lost for words almost. >> lost for words almost. >> i'm trying not to swear. that's all it is. i've had a few sherbets tonight. boys come on. >> england celebrating england. what's the result like for you? my what's the result like for you? my friend? oh, amazing. honestly? yeah, it was
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brilliant. i can't believe it. i was saying, watkins, i say , know was saying, watkins, i say, know why? watkins, you need to get tony on. we need to get tony on splitting the back of the net. >> didn't he just. yeah. >> didn't he just. yeah. >> this was the skill and the precision that everybody's been hoping for this tournament, right? yeah definitely. yeah. yeah. >> now i can't i can't put words on that performance. >> first half were brilliant. you were scratching your head for a while. he was scratching his head. but the tension that they provided amazing . and it's they provided amazing. and it's a good performance, especially down here. it's amazing to watch and yeah, everything we wanted and yeah, everything we wanted and more. >> and now england will be taking on spain. what about that challenge ? challenge? >> well, yeah, that'd be amazing, man. yeah. it's, it's what dreams are made of, isn't it? you know . yeah. he could it? you know. yeah. he could probably tell you more than i can in england, the home of football. >> and it is now greatly coming home. it could come home. >> it could well come home. >> it could well come home. >> but i think i think i think to herself , like even the way to herself, like even the way that we performed tonight
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against how we've performed rest of this season or rest of the cup. >> but like i think he's completely different. and in terms of that, we've got a belief where we've got to the final. and i actually think that we might actually end up winning a trophy. >> could we go all the way? >> could we go all the way? >> i think we could go all the way in the sense of that with the players that we've got. i think the sense of that, the performance that we've we've produced tonight, i kind of think self, why can't we beat spain? why can't we? >> it's coming home, it's coming home. >> of course it's coming home. it's coming of course it's coming home. of course it's coming home. of course it's coming home. of course it's coming home from sheffield. oh. oh see now they say it's coming home. >> we've still got one more big batch, big match before. it could be said to be coming home. spain on sunday are absolutely unbelievable scenes there. >> will hollis you legend. i'm loving having a look at this place now. they're in sheffield . place now. they're in sheffield. what dreams are made of? there it is. i mean, that final is
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going to be absolutely epic. i'm very pleased to say i will not be at work for that final. can i also just say a massive round of applause from everyone here @gbnews for those fine , @gbnews for those fine, upstanding young men there who, despite clearly consuming what i can only imagine, was between, i'd say what, nine and 15 pints each? not a single blink noted as well. with that last slide there. not a swear word. not a swear word in sight. i thought the bloke wearing the number eight shirt was going to give us a little bit of difficulty towards the end i had my money on an on air apology, but no, no, he just went straight out the traps. it's coming home, will hollis, you're a legend as well. thank you very, very much . well. thank you very, very much. well done england, well done gareth southgate. it was never in doubt. never in doubt. right glad we got out of that one unscathed. i don't know about you. i was a bit worried there for a minute. but anyway . well for a minute. but anyway. well let's let's do the news, shall we? let's do the news because it looks like labour is about to put a woke bloke in charge of stopping illegal immigrants.
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brilliant. neil basu, the ex assistant commissioner for the met police, is said to be the front runner to front up our new border security command. well he reportedly urged the met police to accept that it is still institutionally racist and thought that positive discrimination might be necessary. here he is slamming suella braverman and the rwanda plan . plan. >> i find some of the commentary coming out of the home office inexplicable. >> you think you have the dream to send refugees to rwanda, for example ? yes. what kind of example? yes. what kind of impact did that have on you ? impact did that have on you? that kind of language? >> it is unbelievable to hear a succession of very powerful politicians who look like this, talking in language that my father would have remembered from 1968. it's horrific . from 1968. it's horrific. >> he does also seem to be very proud of being woke. >> i will go with the oxford university dictionary definition of the word woke. i don't think that's the way it has been used or applied to me, but that
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definition is are you alert to issues of racial and social justice? yes, i am, and if that is the definition of woke, i'll wear it as a bumper sticker every day of the week. >> well, he doesn't really seem to like the free press very much, some would say, because in july 2019, it was basu who threatened to prosecute stephen edgington, now a gb news reporter . by the way, he was reporter. by the way, he was working for the mail on sunday at the time when the newspaper published leaked diplomatic cables which led to the resignation of kim darroch, the british ambassador to washington . british ambassador to washington. basu attacked a no deal brexit, saying it would make us less safe. i mean, does this guy sound like the right man to get tough on illegal immigrants in the channel or with the french? well perhaps not. he does sound like the kind of man, though, who might be amenable to us. oh, i don't know. taking some kind of quota of illegal immigrants from the european union, perhaps keir starmer has been squiffy on whether or not we would sign up to some kind of eu quota system. rwanda has been scrapped.
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100,000 illegal migrants will now be allowed to claim for asylum. we're never going to get asylum. we're never going to get a returns agreement with countries like iran or afghanistan, and it's hard to see how labour deal with this issue unless they do strike a deal with the eu for some kind of quota system. people have short memories, okay, but starmer and yvette cooper, they visited the eu together in september last year. and what was the top line of the story that came out of that? keir starmer has revealed that he would seek an eu wide returns agreement for asylum seekers who come to britain yet fine, but that doesn't happen unless we take our quotes and quotes fair share as well. now, if they thought they could smash the gangs, there'd be no need to do that, would there? well, we'll laboun that, would there? well, we'll labour, stop the boats by simply flying in planes of illegal immigrants instead . let's get immigrants instead. let's get our thoughts from our panel. tonight i am joined by the director of the popular conservatives, mark littlewood. ihave conservatives, mark littlewood. i have got the political guru at the spectator, james heale and author and journalist rebecca
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reid, and james, i'm going to start with you on this one because you actually wrote an article, i believe, about neil basu at the spectator. a couple of years ago, a year or so ago. yeah, and you were. well, it was quite interesting your views on him. do you think that he might be the right man to talk tough on borders ? on borders? >> i certainly don't, and i think that, you know, look, we can talk about woke and kind of politics of all this. i just think he's incompetent. i think he's got a record of failure in this roles, he's someone who's never really, i think, impressed in kind of his public interventions . and i question interventions. and i question whether he's the right person to be leading this very politically sensitive job, given how much capital labour is invested in claiming there'll be different from the tories on this. >> just on that, you mentioned that he's got a track record of failure. i mean, what kind of things are we talking about here? >> well, in his record about, for instance, going after the prosecutions of journalists in terms of the phone hacking about his comments that, that stephen edgington, you mentioned there and the mail on sunday story. i was at the mail on sunday at the time in 2019 when that happened. those comments had to be then slapped down by the two then contenders, boris johnson and jeremy hunt, for the leadership. i remember massive outcry and i think that he's someone who makes ill judged public
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interventions and was never particularly. i think, regarded as one of the kind of candidates to succeed. chris dodi , which to succeed. chris dodi, which was one the reason why she stayed so long as head of the met. and i think basically it's an indictment of the kind of senior police leadership we've got where a lot of people now go off into private security firms. and actually we're left with kind of some of the less impressive candidates to lead forces like this across the country. all right. >> so here we go. put him in charge of this new border command. mark, you know, a bloke who thinks that rwanda was a terrible idea, slammed suella braverman, etc, you know, has just been quite, quite, quite vociferous in his political interventions . interventions. >> it doesn't inspire confidence, does it, patrick? i mean , labour's basic approach is mean, labour's basic approach is if we just get enforcement right, smash the gangs have this new sort of border force thing, a few more people pulling the right levers, we can crack the problem. i have never believed it's as simple as that. sure, enforcement has been poor for years, so it does need to be tightened up, but in my view, both with regard to asylum and legal immigration, it's a question of the legal framework that you set. so i suspect this is a bit of window dressing. look, labour will be able to get
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away with it for a while. they can blame everything on 14 years of tory rule for a while, but give it 12 months. if this isn't working then it's fully on them. >> they can blame, they can and by the way, and so they should blame a heck of a lot on on 14 years of tory rule. there can be no doubt about that. but they've beenin no doubt about that. but they've been in office now a few days. scrap the rwanda plan and if they then put a woke bloke in charge of our borders. and the only way around this, by the way , only way around this, by the way, rebecca rac is, is if we take a quota system from the eu because we're not going to we're not going to get returns agreements with countries like iran and afghanistan. that's not going to happen. boats are going to keep coming. so we're going to have to do some kind of quota system, aren't we? >> well, there's a lot of things to address there. to start with, the fact that he is woke, i think is a nice thing. he is aware of social injustice. the police have a pretty poor track record in lots of arenas. were actually being a bit more woke. might help and certainly might restore some public faith. additionally this is a role which has the potential to come
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with a lot of being accused of being racist. so the fact that he has a politically gentle woke you may say track record might actually help him be able to get some things across somebody else might really struggle to in terms of quotas. so one of the biggest, one of the biggest nationalities of illegal immigration here is vietnam . and immigration here is vietnam. and yet we don't ever really seem to talk about that. we tend to talk about small boats, and we tend to talk about a specific demographic. but there is a much wider and bigger problem here in terms of the return agreement. a lot of people coming from iran or afghanistan would have a very legitimate reason to make a claim anyway, particularly if you're a woman coming from one of those countries to returns agreements. there, i would say, is one of the lesser problems. what i'd be more concerned about is returns agreements with countries like algeria, where there would be a good conversation to be had . but yes, conversation to be had. but yes, if quotas mean that you end up with fewer people and you have access to fingerprint tracking, that's the fear, isn't it, that it's not fewer people at all. it's actually. but they're not going to sign up to take more people. they will sign up to take a smaller number of people and to have them better monitored. and this fingerprinting system is a
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really, genuinely brilliant idea. you can't change your fingerprints without burning off your fingertips, and it means your fingertips, and it means you can actually keep track of people doing things like this in the past, because we said it contravenes our human rights. >> this is the hypocrisy of it all. you know, dental checks, wrist x rays, fingerprinting , wrist x rays, fingerprinting, why all these european countries are able to do it for children, why all of a sudden you wheel in a bloke who's, you know, quotes and quotes work you could get away with all this. >> well two things. firstly, do you want it fixed or do you want to complain. because if you want it fixed, then let's do the fingerprinting. and secondly, why are other european countries able to do it? if it's so problematic. yeah, because. >> because they are not hamstrung by the fact that we've had a load of people sniping from the left in this country in the way that we have, who was in power, who was in charge, who made the decisions. >> we do not have that because the left sniped the tories weren't tough enough . weren't tough enough. >> and i agree with at least the inference of your point, patrick, that i think this is extremely difficult to deal with unless you leave echr and repeal the human rights act and start again . i'm the human rights act and start again. i'm not the human rights act and start again . i'm not saying i want to again. i'm not saying i want to aboush again. i'm not saying i want to abolish human rights in britain, but i think the present human rights infrastructure makes deaung rights infrastructure makes dealing with this problem near
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impossible. whatever your border enforcement is, it's james cleverly leading the tory response on this . response on this. >> i'll be very interested to see how he does. given the context of the tory leadership and all this, can he hold labour to account on this? yeah, well, this is it. >> all right. it should be an easy win for him. shouldn't it? >> well, there we go. look, coming up, i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages tomorrow's newspaper front pages to bring you. will there be any new developments over triple murder suspect carl clifford? because he was apprehended in enfield earlier today, wasn't he? also, why do so many young people hate britain ? but now people hate britain? but now majority of people that i've met in england that are english. >> no, not all of them. >> no, not all of them. >> obviously can't speak for everyone, ever. but there's a good proportion of them are just horrible people. >> but next, new polling of tory members shows that kemi badenoch has double the support of suella braverman. so is she the person to pull the party back together? former conservative mp and government minister dame jenkins. well, she's fan of kemi and she joins me to explain
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. still to come, i'll bnng tonight. still to come, i'll bring you the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages . tomorrow's newspaper front pages. but first, the tory leadership contest is turning nasty, with front runner kemi badenoch saying suella braverman is having a very public nervous breakdown. that was one of her comments leaked from the shadow cabinet meeting yesterday. suella braverman has hit back, saying i'd be interested in knowing whether kemi thinks i am having a very public nervous breakdown. hashtag honesty , breakdown. hashtag honesty, hashtag unity, hashtag. we don't leak. meanwhile, fresh polling of tory members shows that
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badenoch has nearly double the support compared to braverman, with tom tugendhat and jeremy hunt emerging as the next most popular options. so look with the new leader of the opposition due to be decided well, conceivably in a matter of weeks, it could be months. who is best placed to lead the tory party out of the doldrums to provide some answers, i welcome to the fray, former tory mp and minister dame andrea jenkyns. andrew, great to see you. thank you very much for joining us. look, kemi badenoch is the front runner at the moment. what do you make of that , well having you make of that, well having worked with her for several years in parliament, i'm not her biggest fan. >> i think she's very bright, without a doubt. she's a nice enough person, but what you see is wasn't isn't not necessarily what you get. actually, patrick, look at her voting record, she is just a party stooge . she is just a party stooge. she voted for all theresa may's deals. she voted for more net zero. look how she behaved with boris, immaturely in those text message. go on. do it, do it.
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trying to get people to resign. and i also don't forget on the european scrutiny committee, where the great sir bill cash, chaired in the last parliament where she actually spoke to him in such a disrespectful way, schooling him and also one more thing, patrick, which is concerning me to think that kemi was a london assembly member, why is there nothing online? why is her history internet history seem to have been wiped prior to brexit? that's what i'd like to know . know. >> okay. all right. those are your views of course. so you don't think that she is actually this kind of, you know, big anti—woke? you know, smacking their heads together kind of person that maybe the conservative party actually needs at the moment? >> no, i think i on the wokester she's she's very good. i can't fault her on that. you know, she's very good on that. but on the other stuff she'll just do as whatever gove or anybody else says. now, i think we'd better
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going in the direction of pretty or suella. they're both spartans. like myself, and they're both fighters and they're both fighters and they're both fighters and they're both thatcherite conservatives. and i think what we've seen really over the last 18 months, really, is that we need some red meat policies. look how people went to reform . look how people went to reform. as you know, patrick, i came on your show , we put the i put the your show, we put the i put the vote of no confidence into rishi sunak. and i don't think the party had learnt its lesson. and it's about time they learnt the lesson and listen to members . lesson and listen to members. >> okay. so what do you think of suella comments recently though? because she does appear to be losing quite a lot of support from within. so some of her former key allies, and this is something that is going to be gripping really, because the two tories that end up on the ballot paper for members, if indeed it goes to the members, you know, they're going to be decided by they're going to be decided by the remaining crop of tory mps. and i think people are quite worried that they might be a bit wet . wet. >> i mean, i agree with you. thatis
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>> i mean, i agree with you. that is a the fear at the moment. definitely. and i don't want to see tom's, tommy's is great, but again, is a one nafion great, but again, is a one nation tory. i certainly don't want victoria atkins, i don't like her whatsoever. i've got to be honest. i've made that known over the years. and why not? >> why not? out of interest? >> why not? out of interest? >> why. even when she used to do ministerial surgery, she's just so damn rude. actually patrick, i'm afraid, she speaks down to people. she's on a high horse all the time, and that just drives me mad. in all honesty, i want somebody who is authentic. now, my advice to suella, for what it's worth , i like suella. what it's worth, i like suella. and i really like pretty, suella. she's got to remember the numbers. look at the makeup of the party. what's left? the mps, what's left ? it's mainly mps, what's left? it's mainly three quarters or more. is the one nation conservative. so she has got to reel it back if she's wanting to get their votes to get into the final. >> i'm just wondering if actually the way that the tory party is going at the moment, if she's badly treated in an
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election campaign like she might be, if she just decides to go for leader that her natural home would just be reform , would just be reform, >> no, i don't think so. because i mean, suella and i got elected at the same time. i know her very well and like myself, she's always believed, conservative party leaders come and go , but party leaders come and go, but ultimately we're conservatives. we've got to get our act together, without a doubt. and i think that we're going to have a bit more turbulence the next few weeks while we're fighting for the heart of the party, you know, from the one nation group to the thatcherite group, we're fighting for the heart of conservatism. but then we've really got to get our act together and be a strong opposition so we can come back fighting in the next general election. >> do you think that the people who are like the puppet masters behind the scenes are desperate to have kemi badenoch in? because i was quite suspicious of this leak that's come out of that shadow cabinet meeting and cammie's response. look, unless i've missed this in the last couple of hours when i've been on air or about to come on air,
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in which if i have in which case i apologise. but she hasn't actually seemed to deny anything that was said in that in that leak, which implies that she did say it all, including that suella is having a nervous breakdown. the fact that that got out there, i wondered, well, who leaked that? and then she's she's become quite popular in the polls, you know , partly as a the polls, you know, partly as a result of all of this. so do you think she's the kind of one that they really want behind the scenes? there >> without a doubt. i think she's sort of been groomed, if that's the right word to be the, replacement for a while. i mean, there was even a whipping operation, which i wasn't involved in, but i was on the periphery, to try and, get rishi out. and i know that some of the people was key allies of kemi . people was key allies of kemi. so i think this has been brewing for a long time , but i will for a long time, but i will certainly even though i'm no longer an mp, i will certainly try to stop that because i don't think kemi badenoch guy anker to stop reform in all honesty. >> all right. well, dave, andrea, thank you very much for your time. it's good to see you again and that we chat again soon. this tory leadership
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contest is going to is going to rumble on isn't it. so dame andrea jenkins, former tory mp and minister well what do you make of that? actually i'd be quite keen to get your views on all of this. who do you think is actually the best person? but look. hey, coming up, we are going to be having a little bit of a chat about this jority of people that i've met in england that are english. >> not all of them obviously can't speak for everyone, ever. but there's a good majority of them that are just horrible people. >> i'm just wondering why people like that bother to live here. you know, there is an airport probably within about 10 or 15 miles of where he made those comments. would anyone volunteer to drive him there? i'm also going to the very first look at tomorrow's newspaper front
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight now. this is usually the time when i bring you tomorrow's news. tonight, in the most entertaining pay per view, you'll get anywhere on telly. but before we get to the front pages , england are in the front pages, england are in the final of the euros. aston villa
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forward ollie watkins made it two one in the 91st minute to defeat the netherlands and set up a winner takes all decider against the spanish on sunday. here's the moment that that watkins goal went in, but from croydon . croydon. look at the limbs there. fantastic stuff. that is the very, very best of british, isn't it? look at it. beer everywhere. everyone enjoying themselves. you love to see it. i mean, can you imagine what on earth is going to look like on sunday? if we absolutely turn the spaniards over? but let's take a look at tomorrow's newspaper front page, shall we? so we start with the metro, they've got nether in doubt . they've got nether in doubt. late strike earns three lions a place in second consecutive euros final, there we go. let's
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go to the i. they go. here we go again. southgate vindicated as his substitutions win england the game. i will also note that i think he might have made the substitution slightly earlier than usual . substitution slightly earlier than usual. but i'm only getting that in my ear because obviously i was trapped here anyway. they've also gone with, water firms told to refund customer bills if they fail to tackle sewage. well, let's be honest with you, no one cares about. we're in the final of the euros, so there we go. well done. i now i'm joined by my press pack director of popular conservatives mark littlewood , conservatives mark littlewood, political correspondent of the spectator, james heale, and author and journalist rebecca reid. and may i just say a massive thank you, of course, for not watching much of the england game because you were here. we were able to see the winning goal. >> well, we were just off stage , >> well, we were just off stage, so that's great. >> and also you're so welcome because i am obviously devastated. >> yeah that's good. so you saw it. >> yeah yeah yeah great. >> yeah yeah yeah great. >> it's an absolute peach. the winner. yeah you missed a treat patrick. not trying to rub it in. >> and there was one that was nearly won but then wasn't won. and that was all very exciting as well. narratively good. >> good stuff. no that's great.
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sounds like a real thriller. it sounds like a real thriller of a game, actually. yeah. no good. my game, actually. yeah. no good. my executive producer got the day off to go and watch it live, so that's great. here i am. the good news, patrick, for us beleaguered tories, is that england only win major tournaments under a labour government. >> so you know, wow , there we are. >> and now i have to do my thing where i point out that we won the euros two years ago. >> what we won the last euros. the woman. yeah, right. fine. >> also an england team. >> also an england team. >> all right. jolly good. right now. video has resurfaced online of a young man explaining why he's not proud to be british. it was filmed before rishi sunak called the election. i'll be honest with you. it shocked me. i think it might shock you to take a look at england. >> this place sucks. the majority of people that i've met in england that are english, not all of them obviously can't speak for everyone, ever. but there's a good portion of them that are just horrible people, the government sucks, the weather's awful , the job weather's awful, the job market's terrible. we get paid terribly. no, i'm not particularly proud to be british. and we've got awful stereotypes for the rest of the world. i mean, we're the most
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obnoxious when it comes to holidays, and it's just horrible . holidays, and it's just horrible. we refuse to learn other people's languages, and it's disgusting. no, i'd rather be. i'd rather be french . i'd rather be french. >> i think people might get on with him a little bit better. if you look like he washed his hair. >> i love him also. did he not see those scenes from croydon? yeah, i'm proud to be english. >> well, even if you're in croydon. oh, sorry. i thought you said he was in croydon. >> no, not in croydon. >> no, not in croydon. >> no. yeah. >> no. yeah. >> i mean, i thought i was watching it, i thought i was watching it, i thought i was watching an episode of rising damp, which is basically the weather's terrible. >> the economy's in the wire. i thought it was the 70s again. look, i mean, all this stuff is plus a change, as the french would say, wants to go to france. i mean, look, he can he can't go to france because we left the thing that allowed to us move to other countries. >> what? so this is to france. >> what? so this is to france. >> you can't live there. >> you can't live there. >> he can't work there in a couple of months time. >> you can't work there, can you? well, you can, yes you can. you have to get a visa. >> oh, no. oh, heavens. >> before we used to be able to just go and live places in a piece of paper. >> can't wait to go. do you have to be sponsored by a company? >> so what? get a job that's really hard to do. oh, good
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grief, why don't you? i'm amazed. this is the kind of just give up, roll over and die attitude, isn't it, that we've got for a load of people? >> young god, our boys on the pitch didn't show that tonight. >> exactly, exactly, exactly. yeah. you know, i just i do think if that many young people seriously just take this country, why don't they just leave? >> how would they leave? >> how would they leave? >> but how would they leave airport and getting on a plane? >> if you're a freelance social media executive, what on earth are you going to get a job doing in france? >> get a proper job? >> get a properjob? >> get a properjob? >> what proper job are they supposed to get? >> a one minute ago, we were all arguing that junior doctors are about to go and leave. if we don't pay them 35, they can jog on quite quickly. >> doctors are quite important. >> doctors are quite important. >> you know, old manky hair there. he's trapped. is he ? there. he's trapped. is he? >> it's a style choice. he looked fine and it's a style choice. >> and he didn't look fine. >> and he didn't look fine. >> i thought that was a related party. political broadcast for the conservatives and the national service policy, you know. yeah >> i'm sorry. do you really think he would have been any use in the army? he would have been crying. yeah, exactly. >> so i don't really care what you think. oh. everything's awful. crawl out. your nan's
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basement. >> and luckily, we have a change of government since that was last filmed. and we can all feel better and more optimistic. >> exactly. right now. anyway, i'd like to apologise to that lad , because i know nothing lad, because i know nothing about him. i think what you're seeing here now is a man who's annoyed he didn't watch the football. yeah, okay. he's probably lovely. anyway, now this is the moment that police in ohio finally caught a fugitive suspected of causing chaos and setting bunnies, puppies and birds free after he broke into a pet store yesterday . broke into a pet store yesterday. >> mr pancake, run around. don't move. >> get on your belly. get on the belly . on your. on your belly, belly. on your. on your belly, on your belly. go belly. on your. on your belly, on your belly . go get belly. on your. on your belly, on your belly. go get on your belly, mr pancake . belly, mr pancake. >> oh, god. there is a terrible oh oh animal animal abuse . what oh oh animal animal abuse. what the heck? what the heck ? her the heck? what the heck? her hands multiple holes in his pants . multiple multiple gerbils pants. multiple multiple gerbils recovered . recovered. >> all right, so your eyes are not deceiving you there. he was wearing a leopard print onesie, and he accessorised by putting
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two live hamsters in his pocket. all right. which the police, they'd had to. you might have heard of multiple animals recovered. i'm surprised that it is america, isn't it? it's just like one of the animals bit me. >> grand theft hamster. it's pretty. >> yeah. it was. >> yeah. it was. >> it was a white hamster. so it was always going to be okay. >> oh, i saw leopard print. >> oh, i saw leopard print. >> i thought theresa may has taken post—parliamentary life. >> yeah, he ran through a field of wheat to get to that pet shop, didn't he? but anyway. right. well, there we go. coming up, the crowning moment of the show . yes, that's right, where show. yes, that's right, where i decide tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. plus, labour mp clive lewis precedes his oath to the king with this remark . remark. >> i take this oath under protest and in the hope that one day my fellow citizens will democratically decide to live in a republic. >> okay, lovely. is that kind of guy at school, isn't he? he thinks he's smarter than everyone else. but actually, everyone's really bored of him. lock him in the tower of london. just. just kidding, just just kidding. but is this the true face of starmer's changed labour party? my panel will discuss in couple of minutes
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. and i'm going to have some more from pages for you. now, let's do it. so we're going in with the times. clooney calls on biden to save democracy by standing aside. george clooney became the most prominent democrat to call on president biden to end his campaign for a second term in the white house. well, there we are. apparently, joe biden immediately hit back by saying no. and then asking who he was. but no, no, no, he did it also , much more serious did it also, much more serious story on the front of the times here. former soldier held over triple crossbow murder there. put that in quotation marks because he is i will emphasise at the moment, just the suspect . at the moment, just the suspect. daily mail, crossbow horror popular bbc commentator's wife and daughters are murdered at home, the mail says. then ex—boyfriend suspect turns weapon on himself again. they're quoting that in graveyard. that story has a heck of a lot
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further to go, and no doubt will be apart from the england result. obviously, i imagine leading the news agenda tomorrow, but that's worth it . tomorrow, but that's worth it. along i am joined, as ever, by my wonderful panel director of the popular conservatives, mark littlewood, political correspondent at spectator james heale author and journalist rebecca ray. now in the not too distant past, our prime minister keir starmer wanted to abolish the monarchy. apparently he's changed his mind. but the same can't be said of all labour mps, who have a little look at clive lewis taking his oath of allegiance. >> i take this oath under protest and in the hope that one day my fellow citizens will democratically decide to live in a republic. until that time, i do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that i will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his majesty. king charles, according to law , bore charles, according to law, bore off mate, i mean, is he just an attention seeking little weasel, or has he got a point? >> i'm going to surprise you.
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i'm going to stick up for him. yeah.i i'm going to stick up for him. yeah. i don't see why you can't be a member of parliament and republican. >> we've all been in the armed forces. yeah, okay. >> but he still took the oath to the king. he's not. he's not advocating any form of violence or terrorism to oppose the monarchy. he's hoping a republic might come about in many years to come. you might well disagree with that. fine. but it seems to me it's acceptable. but why does it? >> you don't think it's just like a pointless show of, oh, look at me, here i am. oh, i'm not doing the oath properly. look at me. >> supposing you are a devout republican. what should you do? >> i think suck it up. and then i think as a group, i remember years and years ago the veteran labour mp tony banks took it with his fingers crossed. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> but there's a theme that we're getting to here, isn't it? jeremy corbyn yesterday i think we said it was a load of nonsense or whatever. clive lewis said if a labour mp and about taking it with his fingers and of course, why is it that the left just seem to hate britain? >> well, a lot of them like protests, you know, and protest gestures like this. i think, you know, if you want to have a debate about it, by all means, with a range of westminster hall debate or something like that, i
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just think there's a time and a place and, you know, frankly, if you were, for instance, swearing an oath to this country, if you were getting your citizenship, you wouldn't, you know, you'd be thrown out for doing what he just did there. i just wonder, has he done it before, i don't know. off the top of my head, actually. but, you know, i think, look, it's the kind of thing that keir starmer's tried to change the labour party and then first day back it. clive lewis does this well, i mean, i imagine he would have to turn down a cabinet role, wouldn't he. >> you know, i mean he. >> you know, i mean he. >> no, of course i'm not sure many will be coming clive lewis's way after that, but i don't think he would. >> but also, one of the beautiful, wonderful things about britain is that you can live here and prosper here and enter the upper echelons of government. while not being in support of a monarchy. and i think that's beautiful. i also think that's beautiful. i also think it's very ironic when a lot of people who are on telly tell somebody else off for being an attention seeker, because we all know we're all as bad as that. >> i don't think we are as bad as that. >> i mean, i find i find that incredibly smarmy, to be honest, i do. >> i just find it like, what else should he have done? >> just lied and pretended that he, well, just start making a spectacle of himself in the same. you can change the rules if you in the same way if you want, in the same way that you can swear you can. you can swear on a book that isn't the king james bible if you're not of that faith. so you could swear on a different bible or a
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different religious text. surely it's appropriate that you could also out the monarchy also switch out the monarchy because about what you because it's about what you personally believe. >> it just felt to me a little bit like that was maybe more of an attention seeking gesture than anything else. >> think one's matter of >> i think one's a matter of personal faith true personal faith and true religion. the other is about, you know, the law of the country. you know. >> well, he's taken the oath, monarch. >> he still does, but he did it in such a way, which obviously in a such a way, which obviously was trying to kind undermine was trying to kind of undermine the yeah, that's the whole process. yeah, that's what say about what i'd say about it. >> a bit snarky anyway. now hollywood megastars ben affleck and jennifer garner heard of and jennifer garner not heard of her anyway. >> she's an incredibly famous actress. >> is she? >> is she? >> well, for good her. are used to being in the limelight, but it's their daughter who's making headlines. 18 year old violet is often seen wearing a face mask, and she contracted a post—viral condition in 2019 and a passionate plea to the governing body for los angeles county, violet called for the end to all mask bans. all right, let's take a look. >> 1 in 10 infections leads to long covid, which is a devastating neurological cardiovascular illness that can take away people's ability to work, move, see and even think. stands to exacerbate our homelessness crisis, as well as the suffering of many people in our city. it hits communities of
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colour, disabled people, elderly people, trans people, women and anyone in a public facing essential job. the hardest and most importantly, the county must oppose mask bans for any reason. they do not keep us safer. they >> so is that hollywood nepo baby going to make our lives a mass wearing hell once again? i mean, let's hope not. you know, with respect, i feel for her. if she's developed some kind of post—viral condition and, you know. absolutely. but, you know, is this not the kind of mass hysteria that we've all grown sick of ? sick of? >> it's just ridiculous. sick of? >> it'sjust ridiculous. i mean, >> it's just ridiculous. i mean, i could barely hear what she was saying. >> well, ironically. >> well, ironically. >> yeah, exactly, but no, i hate all of this stuff. >> i mean, the by the way , the >> i mean, the by the way, the masks are generally there to protect other people rather than yourself . if she's got yourself. if she's got a condition, i don't know, wants to go around in a hazmat suit or something, be my guest. but i think this is just performative nonsense, really. and actually, when we ended the mask mandate here, i was noticing on public transport. still, a lot of people were wearing them. now i can't get inside their heads, but it just struck me that it was a virtue signalling device rather than a genuinely
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considered view about public health. you were wearing a mask, say, i really care about it. >> it's interesting, isn't it? i do wonder whether or not now for a lot of people, not everyone, but for a lot of people, a mask is part of the kind of woke bingo card of things that you get. so, you know, you see mask, you maybe see the eu flag on one lapel, perhaps the palestinian flag on another. pronouns in bio. you know, i wonder if , bio. you know, i wonder if, particularly in america, i think we can almost kind of guess what someone's politics are during the covid, particularly if they're wearing a mask or not. >> it's much more kind of identikit interest to follow the same line. so i think as you were saying, mark, it becomes more about kind of almost sartorial, it's certainly virtue signalling rather than actually a medical science. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, in her case specifically, she lost two years of her childhood, right? in the middle of her teens, a very formative period. and her parents had an incredibly high profile divorce. and now j—lo is her stepmom . so she's had her stepmom. so she's had a very, very rough few years. and i think there's a reason that very young people need this to be so big and so important. not all of them have j—lo as a stepparent, but they did all lose a huge part of their childhood. and if but if all of the robert hur i mean, i don't
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think you'll find too many chaps in the world who would be complaining if they had j—lo as a stepmom. so but my point is, i think for a lot of young people, they need this to still feel true because they made a huge sacrifice and they lost a lot for it. and if it meant nothing, then they lost it for nothing. >> that now the idea that she wants to make everyone elsewhere, she doesn't want to make everyone elsewhere, and she doesn't want to make everybody elsewhere when she wants to be able to wear hers in all public spaces. >> there are some places where you can't go around with your face covered, and she wants to be able to wear hers. >> okay. >> okay. >> all right. well, i feel very sorry for her. it's time to reveal today's greatest. britain's union jackass. right, then, mark, i'll throw it over to you. your greatest britain. please. >> i was super confident. nominated this before a ball was kicked . gareth southgate, never kicked. gareth southgate, never in doubt. >> never in doubt . okay, gareth >> never in doubt. okay, gareth southgate, that song waistcoat as well. you said it was never in doubt, i mean a lot of people were saying that he should have been sacked before this tournament and then throughout most of the tournament, but now here we are in the final. >> so i had a little bit of luck, haven't we? an easy draw
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but name on the trophy. we're getting these last minute goals. we're just getting over the line . we're just getting over the line. one more great performance and that's it. first trophy since 66. >> we are well not first trophy since 66. >> you know because the women had a go didn't they? i don't watch women exactly good right now james who's your greatest britain. >> well, in a shocking, diverse twist, i've gone for harry kane as my greatest britain. yes, i chose this at half time . chose this at half time. obviously, you could also nominate ollie watkins, who scored the winner, but i'm going for harry kane because i think he had a difficult tournament and it was great to see him break his duck and get the penalty, which got us one one well and he banished the penalty issue, he, when he issue, didn't he, when he smashed it over the bar against the french . the french. >> he's now slotted it into the bottom corner against the dutch. >> well he's now equal top scorer in the tournament. >> it's almost like you've got to watch it patrick. it is well actually i did get to watch the first half which was actually more annoying, you know, i mean i'm aware of how i'm quite an orange tile, which makes it look like i was supporting the dutch, but, but yes. >> anyway, right. so who's your greatest person? please? >> mine is ptolemy benson, who is bringing back the golden age of the wags xi. would i would of the wags xi. i would i would encourage you to just go google her. she is the most beautiful woman i've ever looked at. and i love. yeah. and i love the. do
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you remember the cheryl cole penod? you remember the cheryl cole period? we love the glamour. we love the silliness. we love the potential infighting. please bnng potential infighting. please bring it all back . bring it all back. >> noughties corps for your for you. you've nominated just so we're clear on this, we'll keep that picture on the screen because she's really. you think she's gorgeous? yeah, right. >> is that not allowed? no. >> is that not allowed? no. >> it's fine . no it's fine. i >> it's fine. no it's fine. i just wonder, do we hate beautiful women now? i wondered if there was anything else i wanted. it was. >> there was some. i just think she was really, really attractive. tom of britain, i mean, you know, he's allowed to like . like. >> right. fine. okay. well, i'm recently married, so not her, obviously, but gareth southgate , obviously, but gareth southgate, there we go. he's, he's tonight's, greatest britain. which i kind of say to you gritted teeth, but you know what? we are in the final. we're in the final. and there we are, who's your union jackass, >> oxford action for palestine . >> oxford action for palestine. now we're back. they have ended their sit in protest in oxford. they promised this would continue and continue until human rights were protected in israel. they've closed it down. do you know why? time to go on summer days. yeah. so here we
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stand. >> they don't have anywhere to live in oxford. >> they take their rooms back until it's time to go. >> inter—railing with your mates. >> inter—railing with your mates. >> can i just politely suggest they do have some ice in oxford? it's the tent that they pitched outside. outside the building, right? i mean, like, as i said it, i heard myself go, they're camping. >> they were literally living in a tent. >> but now interrailing is more important than the gaza conflict. >> people don't go interrailing anymore. >> i think banned, they're banned from travelling to europe. >> no, it's just not 1980 strong. >> so go on. james >> so go on. james >> i'm going to give clive lewis, who upstaged keir starmer on a day he was at nato summit for all the wrong reasons. so lock him in the tower, lock him in the tower. >> okay. >> okay. >> if we're going to lock up anyone in this government, you know, let them out early. >> well, this is it. they'll be out in. >> oh, just rehabilitate them. >> oh, just rehabilitate them. >> that's too . good >> that's too. good >> that's too. good >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> go on. rebecca, is your mine's boris johnson. >> who did a ten point article, about how to bash labour rather than perhaps suggesting that it might be good if labour maybe fix the country, sort out the mess that he made. not very
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pubuc mess that he made. not very public spirited, not very public spirited. >> it's tribal, though, isn't it? but yes, i do. i do take your point, right. tonight's winners of the union jack are actually a bunch of people that ihave actually a bunch of people that i have met. it's the oxford action for palestine group . action for palestine group. lovely bunch of people. >> met but not spoken to. >> met but not spoken to. >> met, met but not spoken to. thoughi >> met, met but not spoken to. though i did speak to a few of them. it was the cambridge lot though i didn't. >> oh, i'm so sorry. >> yeah, it was good. i think they probably worried a lot with them, you know, with my intellect and everything, but, but yeah, so, so no, they have decided to go for home the summer holiday. yes. which shows how much they really care. solidarity everybody with gaza. all right. well, thank you very much, everybody for tonight again i will re—emphasise. i'm really glad you got to watch the game. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everybody who turned over and well done. england as well. headliners are up next. another group of people who also got to watch the england match earlier, so that was brilliant. so yeah, i look forward to hearing more about that. they can give you a fuller analysis. i'll see you tomorrow. everybody >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb
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news >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office . rain will ease slowly office. rain will ease slowly but surely through tonight. however, it is going to be another cloudy day for most of us through tomorrow. that's because low pressure is very much in charge. we've got a northerly wind as well for some areas that's bringing that particularly cool feel, particularly cool feel, particularly for mid early. the early part of july. so rain will persist for north eastern areas of scotland as well as some northern areas of england , parts northern areas of england, parts of northern ireland as well. but the rain is going to ease a little and we will lose that risk of thunderstorms through northern areas of england staying dry across the south. temperatures around 12 or 13 degrees as a minimum overnight, so a fairly mild start to the day . but as i so a fairly mild start to the day. but as i said, where we do have that northerly wind across parts of scotland, that's where it's going to feel quite cool. through much of the day. temperatures not climbing much higher than 13 degrees in aberdeen by lunchtime, even 11 degrees to start the day. so there'll be little change from there'll be little change from the morning into the afternoon.
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a brighter day though, for northern ireland, western areas of scotland cloud though, thickening across parts of north wales into the midlands and across many southern areas. the cloud will start to build into the afternoon, but it should stay dry through much of the day across many southern areas. so here that's where we'll see the warmest temp. the highest temperatures, the warm sunshine still pushing through across parts of the south into wimbledon as well. it should be another dry day on thursday and there will be more in the way of sunshine for northern ireland. western scotland, as well. despite that northerly wind temperatures still climbing to the mid—teens, possibly the higher teens for some parts of the central belt by thursday afternoon. looking ahead to friday, we do see a
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>> gb news at 11:00 and england is through to the euro finals in berlin. after beating the netherlands two one tonight in dortmund. aston villa's ollie watkins scoring a stunning stoppage time winner. the three lions, now facing spain on sunday with the hope of being crowned european champions. none of us here @gbnews can quite believe it. tonight the prime minister, sir keir starmer , minister, sir keir starmer, sending his congratulations to the england squad and confirming he'll attend the final in berlin on sunday. his majesty the king, also sending his good wishes to the england squad and
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