>> well . >> well. >> well. >> hello and welcome to gb news saturday. hope you're having a wonderful weekend then. it's a big one as well, isn't it.7 i'm dawn neesom, and for the next three hours, i'll be keeping you company on telly, online and on digital radio. keeping you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. we've got a cracking, really packed show coming up , so cracking, really packed show coming up, so you don't want to go anywhere, right. starting off with early releases under labour as prison overcrowding is blamed for drastic measures, the justice secretary has announced that some prisoners, including violent ones which they said wouldn't happen, could be released after serving just 40% of their sentence. are britain's streets about to become even more unsafe and royal return with the news that the princess of wales will be returning to wimbledon for the final. and as america has once seemingly gone quiet on harry and meghan , are quiet on harry and meghan, are we seeing a role.7 revival in

fortunes for the royal family? and i think there might be a little football game coming over this weekend. not quite sure, gareth southgate says his team are ready to make history after reaching the final of euro 2024. but can the three lions beat spain tomorrow night and become european . champions? but this european. champions? but this show is nothing without you and your views . it's not about me. your views. it's not about me. it's not about my brilliant guest. we've got some great ones coming up. it's all about you and your views. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we'll be discussing today or anything. you just have to gossip about. basically really simple, she says, trying to remember it. visit gbnews.com/yoursay. i did it and join the conversation. or even eafien join the conversation. or even easier, message me on our socials @gbnews. but first, it's time for the news headlines with sophia wenzler.

>> dawn. thank you. good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 12:00. your top story this hour. a 34 year old man has now been arrested in connection with the investigation into human remains found in two suitcases near clifton suspension bridge. armed police detain the man at bristol temple meads station and he will be taken to london for questioning later. there had been a manhunt in the wake of the discovery of body parts, but police are now not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident . investigators the incident. investigators believe the remains, found at an address in shepherd's bush are unked address in shepherd's bush are linked to those found in two suitcases in bristol on wednesday . the family of three wednesday. the family of three women who were killed in a crossbow attack in hertfordshire this week have said they are devastated . bbc commentator john devastated. bbc commentator john hunt and his daughter amy issued a statement after the murders of 61 year old carol hunt and her two daughters, 25 year old louise and hannah, who's 28, who

were attacked at their home in bushey. it comes as a 26 year old man has now been arrested on suspicion of the murders in the us. president joe biden has confirmed he's going to stay as a democratic candidate for the upcoming election. it comes as top democratic donors have threatened to withhold around £70 million of campaign funds if joe biden isn't replaced as a candidate, after more blunders at the nato summit. speaking at at the nato summit. speaking at a campaign rally in detroit, biden told his supporters that not only will he run, but he will also win the presidency. once again. >> you probably noticed there's a lot of speculation lately. what's joe biden going to do? is he going to stay in the race? is he going to stay in the race? is he going to drop out? here's my answer. i am running and we're going to win . i'm not going to going to win. i'm not going to change that . change that. >> but professor of us politics, scott lucas has told gb news most democrats want biden to

step down. >> some democrat donors have already said they will not provide money to the campaign, until the situation is resolved. in other words, until biden , in other words, until biden, steps down, you've mentioned those that have now said that they are planning to do so, but they are planning to do so, but the democrats are already losing some funds. i think what you're going to see this weekend is , going to see this weekend is, you know, there's going to be a review by those high up in the democratic party where they are in the financial situation. they're going to review the polling, which actually shows that biden and trump are still running neck to neck, but that a majority of democrats do want biden to step aside. and they're going to look at biden's performance . performance. >> meanwhile, elon musk has reportedly donated a to a political group working to elect donald trump as president, to according bloomberg, the amount was not known, but it was a sizeable amount given to a group called america pac . the tesla called america pac. the tesla founder, mr musk, has not responded to these reports.

meanwhile biden campaign spokesman james singer has accused musk of knowing trump is accused musk of knowing trump is a sucker who will sell america out , cutting a sucker who will sell america out, cutting his taxes while raising taxes on the middle classes. alec baldwin's manslaughter case has been dismissed by a judge nearly three years on from the death of halyna hutchins on the set of the western film rust in new mexico. the cinematographer halyna was shot with a revolver that mr baldwin was using in rehearsals in 2021. the trial collapsed three days into baldwin's trial in santa fe . it baldwin's trial in santa fe. it is the second time the case against the actor has been dismissed and he will not be tried again. the us actor broke down in tears as a new mexico judge dismissed the involuntary manslaughter case against him . manslaughter case against him. >> the sanction of dismissal is the only warranted remedy the jury the only warranted remedy the jury has been sworn. jeopardy has attached and a mistrial would not be based upon manifest necessity . further, the sanction necessity. further, the sanction of dismissal is warranted in this case. >> in other news, england

manager gareth southgate has admitted he wants england to win so much on sunday. it hurts as they face spain in the euros 2024 showdown. they've reached the tournament's final for the second time in a row after being beaten by italy on penalties at wembley in 2021. ahead of tomorrow's match, the king has asked england's squad to alleviate the blood pressure of the nation by avoiding any late drama in the final. the princess of wales will attend the wimbledon men's singles final tomorrow and present the trophy. it will be her second public appearance since her cancer diagnosis was announced earlier this year, after she attended trooping the colour last month. kate has been a patron of the all england lawn tennis and croquet club since 2016. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning

the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, sophia. and we're off to a cracking start. i just want to give a shout out to peter harrison. first of all, peter, thank you so much for getting in touch. dawn neesom again, are you sure you're not my husband actually messaging in. and meanwhile on the subject of football, you're going already left. is losing it, whoever you are. hello, thank god nobody is singing that awful frank skinner song about football coming home. always tempting fate. don't get me started. might be doing that later on. stay tuned. right now, let's get straight into today's story, shall we, the government has said some violent criminals will be released from prison early in an attempt to tackle overcrowding. justice secretary shabana mahmood has announced the scheme to release thousands of prisoners early to avoid a total breakdown of law and order. this comes as former home

secretary suella braverman said labouris secretary suella braverman said labour is putting the public at risk with this new scheme, which, if i remember rightly, was kind of a conservative scheme originally. but in any case. joining me now is gb news political correspondent, katherine forster, to explain , katherine forster, to explain, oh, catherine, explain exactly what is going on with this scheme. catherine, lovely to see you. even though you are under an umbrella. no surprise, it's the british summer time , the british summer time, catherine, initially we were told that this scheme wouldn't involve violent prisoners. now, some lower level violent criminal prisoners might be released. what going on with this ? yes. good afternoon. dawn. this? yes. good afternoon. dawn. very worrying indeed. this isn't it. and the justice secretary, shabana mahmood , admits that shabana mahmood, admits that there is risk attached. so yesterday, when this story first broke, we heard that the government was preparing to release people when they'd served 40% of their sentence, as opposed to 50% as it currently

is , and they're looking at is, and they're looking at releasing up to 5000 prisoners early this year. and the scheme likely to go on for 18 months now. initially, they said , you now. initially, they said, you know, don't worry, violent criminals won't be released, etc, but that's now been clarified. so while nobody serving a sentence over four years for very serious violent crimes will be released and people serving sentences under four years for violent crimes, including things like assault, burglary, knife crimes and firearms offences and some of those people will be eligible. now of course, their cases will have to be reviewed individually. it will be subject to probation services, etc, etc. but the probation service itself is already to be honest, on its knees because the whole criminal

justice system has been neglected, frankly, for a very, very long time, because it's not something that the public mostly concern themselves much with, unlike things like education, like the nhs. so you know, the cuts that, happened during austerity did hit it particularly hard. and now we have come to breaking point . have come to breaking point. now, shabana mahmood saying that this is the only way to avert disaster. and basically if they don't release people early to make spaces in the jails, there's only about 700 spaces left for men in england and wales, prisons . now, she says wales, prisons. now, she says that then people would have to be put in police cells and then that would stop courts being able to process cases because they wouldn't have anywhere to put them. it would stop police ultimately arresting people for crimes because they wouldn't have anywhere to put them. so to be honest, it's all an

incredible and very, very serious mess. but the government are insisting really that they don't have any choice. catherine, this was a conservative policy originally, if i remember rightly, wasn't it ? if i remember rightly, wasn't it? yes, it was the government previous government back under rishi sunak were already releasing prisoners earlier, you know, early from their sentences, but not quite as early as this. and of course , it early as this. and of course, it was on the conservatives watch under the last 14 years that all this has come to a head, but it's come to sort of bursting point, if you like. unfortunately for the new administration, just over a week after sir keir starmer became prime minister, but certainly there's a lot of blame flying around and labour, as you would expect, laying it 100% at the door of the conservative shabana mahmood has said this is the most disgraceful dereliction of duty i have ever known. so very,

very worrying. and i worth saying too, that both the prisons watchdog and the probation watchdog have warned about this. charlie taylor, who's the chief inspector of prisons , says that prisons are prisons, says that prisons are at a critical point. so there seems to be no good option at this point. katherine forster. thank you very much for trying to explain what is actually quite an incredibly complicated story and just feel a bit like a sticking plaster to plaster over a problem that's been going on a long time. catherine, thank you very much and i hope you get dry soon. now let's see what my panel make of this. this hour i'm joined by the co—founder of novara media, michael walker, and the former deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib. gentlemen, thank you very much for joining me on a saturday afternoon. really appreciate your company. now, this story is been around for a few days now. front page of the daily mail today with the headune of the daily mail today with the headline looters could run amok if we don't release prisoners

now. michael, originally we know it was a tory policy. first of all, labour had to pick up and run with it, and they are pushing it forward very fast. i mean, they've hit the ground running in one way. but what i'm not hearing here is what is going to happen to the victims. how is the probation service going to work with these sudden release of prisoners who , as we release of prisoners who, as we learned today, some of them may be violent, >> well , i want to be violent, >> well, i want to push be violent, >> well , i want to push back >> well, i want to push back just ever so slightly on something you said, which is that this is very complicated because on one level, this is incredibly simple, right? the tories were putting more people in prison and they weren't building more prison spaces. and for years everyone has looked at these lines, which showed prisoners going up, prison spaces not going up right. prisoners going up, prison spaces not going up right . and spaces not going up right. and the prison governors association, everyone has known about this. everyone's been warning about this. labour gets into power. they're like, oh yeah, the two lines have met now, right ? now, right? >> we don't have any more spaces in prisons. >> and i think suella braverman's line, which is to say, oh, this is very irresponsible from the labour party, is just so dishonest

because she was literally the home secretary while this was happening. some tories have been a bit more honest. so alex chalk, who was the justice secretary until last week, of course, he's spoken to the bbc and said we would have done exactly the same thing. this was inevitable. he's also saying that actually we should put less people in prison. so he's sounding quite liberal on this. but yeah, the causes of this are simple. let's say , which is that simple. let's say, which is that we put more prisoners in prison than we have spaces . as for the than we have spaces. as for the solutions, obviously it's not ideal solutions, obviously it's not ideal. i mean, in terms of pubuc ideal. i mean, in terms of public safety, we probably do need to have some perspective on this because these are all people who've been sent to prison for less than four years, as far as i understand now. so it was the case that they were already, eligible to be released after 50% of their term. so that's after two years. it's going down to 40, which means that people who would have been let out after two years are now going to be let out after, i suppose, 20 months. now, that's not a huge difference in terms of how safe the public are going to be if someone gets let out now or in four months time. the

difference isn't huge. so i suppose that would be huge. >> if you're the victim of that particular crime, though. >> well, i think if you're the victim of that crime, you're going to be equally upset about them coming out in four months time. right? so i think absolutely, we need to have the sort of the perspective of the victims here. but i think there is a more fundamental issue which is that our probation, probation service is completely broken whenever we let these people out now or whether we let them out in four months time, it's clear that our prisons aren't in a situation where they're rehabilitating even the most minor offenders, and they're not keeping track of people once they've been let out. i mean, partly privatising the probation service was another huge mistake that the tories made, which is now a crisis that the labour party, you're going to have to mop up, >> ben coming to you, do you think this will i mean, as i said, it was a tory policy. labour have picked up and run with it, and it's happening faster than anyone expected. but do you think this will put the pubuc do you think this will put the public at risk? >> i it can't be good for the public, can it? i mean, you know, releasing people who are who've been convicted of violent criminal acts no matter what the sentencing was. you know, these are people who are criminals and they've been put away for a good

reason. and we've got to bear in mind that only 2% of violent crimes actually result in a conviction. you know, you only 7% are ever apprehended . only 7% are ever apprehended. only half of that 7% result in a charge being brought. and then only 2% of the total 100% of crimes committed results in someone going to jail. so one of the problems i think we're facing in this country is the legitimisation of certain. i'm slightly digressing, but the effective legitimisation of certain criminal acts as a result of the pressure on the criminal justice system. so, for example, the creation of the term petty crime, which basically allows the police to turn its back on enforcing the law where pretty petty crime is concerned. and that, in my view, has encouraged a lot of people into criminality because they sense that they won't be caught, they won't even be. they won't even be investigated for a petty crime. and so that encourages

people into the system. if you then take away retribution, if you take away the threat of what might happen with criminal activity, assuming you are convicted, actually you're just making it even more less risky. you're making it much less risky for criminals. you're making it much less risky for criminals . and there's more for criminals. and there's more encouragement. and it was interesting, catherine saying this isn't a big issue on the in the country, actually , you know, the country, actually, you know, i've now fought far too many elections this year. i've done a by—election. then the local elections and the general election. it is an issue on every doorstep , particularly every doorstep, particularly knife crime. people are really worried about it. but it's, you know, knife crime is a symptom of all other criminality as well . of all other criminality as well. we'd, you know, you can smell weed everywhere. you go nowadays on the streets of london and wellingborough and rushden where i was standing, and other places, you see syringes being dropped all over the place, millions of barber shops, which made, i think emily maitlis turn her. made, i think emily maitlis turn hen her made, i think emily maitlis turn her. her eyebrows went up when reform uk mentioned the

emergence of multiplicity of barber shops. but the point about barber shops is that not that we've got anything against barbers, it's because it's a cash business and you can launder, you can launder drug money through, you know, these barber shops. and so we're seeing a breakdown , actually, i seeing a breakdown, actually, i think dawn of the criminal justice system. and this is yet another step in that direction. and i completely agree with you, michael. we've seen the rise in the numbers going to jail . why the numbers going to jail. why haven't we been ahead of this game. there are about 95 to 100,000 people in jail. it's not that big a number. we can have more jails. you know, it's not beyond us to be able to build another 10,000 cells somewhere. you know, we should be able to do it. we've got redundant air force bases that are now being handed over to mention that because we it was discussed using these two house migrants initially rather than using hotels, and they are being used to house migrant wethersfield airbase, for example, is being used to house migrants. yeah >> so is that an option? maybe.

michael, for housing the overflow of prisoners until we get the system up and running and build more prisons, which we can't do overnight, obviously. >> so i think the problem here is if you're looking at so there are so they're saying they're excluding sexual crimes and serious violent crimes. now i think we probably need to be clear about what actually is a not serious violent crime. but one thing you don't want to do and what shabana mahmood was talking about yesterday is how dangerous an overcrowded prison is . so a dangerous an overcrowded prison is. so a prison which is already at its capacity limit, which is purpose built as a prison , is purpose built as a prison, is quite dangerous. you can potentially have riots. i mean, there's already huge drug problems in prisons. so what we don't want to be doing is putting people who have committed. now, i know no crime is minor if you're the victim, but a crime where we think they are probably someone who can be rehabilitated. you know, maybe they made a mistake. these do exist. we don't want to be sending them to somewhere which is incredibly overcrowded, which is incredibly overcrowded, which is incredibly overcrowded, which is incredibly dangerous. and where not only are they, you know, might be at a risk to their to their life, but also

getting caught up in something. so if we end up warehousing loads of people who've committed minor crimes in places which are completely unsuitable for people, i think that could have some, you know, problems that come with it. let's say it doesn't seem to be an ideal solution. >> someone has just i'm sorry. forgive me. i've lost your name, but suggested that the foreign prisoners we have in our jails prisoners we have in ourjails at the moment. why don't we just deport them? that would solve a lot of the overcrowding. what do you make to that, ben? >> well, i mean, you've got to have a place to which to deport them. first of all, you've got to have an agreement with that country to take them back. that country to take them back. that country will probably require us to pay money, good money, in order to take them back to doing that. >> to be fair. >> to be fair. >> yeah, we've done that with albania. yeah, we were paying albania, i think £40,000 per albanian that we sent back to albanian that we sent back to albania who had been convicted in the united kingdom, which is about, i think, £10,000 a year less than what it costs us to keep a prisoner in uk jails. you know, it's vastly expensive putting people behind bars. yes. >> the other huge group of people who are in jail at the moment is people on remand. so

it's people who literally just waiting for their court case. i think there's about 16,000 somewhere between 12 and 16,000 people currently in prison because they're waiting to have their case heard. >> the whole system is it's crumbling. >> yeah. and it's an issue because if the criminal justice system is seen not to be working, you create more crime. and if you create more crime, you're in a vicious circle out of which you can't get headline of which you can't get headline of the daily mail today. >> we're running out of time on that one, unfortunately. talking of time, but for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and so much more, please do go to our website, which is gb news.com. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday and there's loads more coming up on today's show. yeah it's football. sorry for those of you complaining. can the three lions make history and beat spain tomorrow night and be crowned european champions? all of that and much more to come. and i'm promising to not sing. it's coming home, although i might, this is gb news britain's news channel. don't too

hello and welcome back to gb news saturday, beth mead dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now, we. someone has just called it kiss ball. it's football. i know what you mean, but come on. every 58 years, maybe we're making the most of it now. manager gareth southgate says his team are ready to make history after reaching the final of euro 2024, a stunning stoppage time goal from substitute ollie watkins secured a21 victory over the netherlands in dramatic fashion this week. the three lions now face spain tomorrow with the hope of being crowned european championships . good luck with championships. good luck with that one boys. joining me now is gb news reporterjack that one boys. joining me now is gb news reporter jack carson, who is live in berlin for us. jack. hello. how's it going out there ? there? >> well, you know, it's been such a good atmosphere here, dawn all morning as england fans

start to come and take their pictures here in front of the brandenburg gate. but shall we find out how how one of them is feeling anyway. shall we? we're going to come talk to adam from radlett. i believe. so how are you feeling ahead of this final ? you feeling ahead of this final? >> it's been 58 years, isn't it? >> it's been 58 years, isn't it? >> it's been 58 years, isn't it? >> i mean, not overly confident, but it's coming home. >> yeah, i mean, i tell us the story. i mean, why, you know, why come to the final. why come to berlin? >> i actually went to my both my mate loz numan's 50th laser. happy birthday son, >> last weekend and haven't been home since . so the plan was to home since. so the plan was to go home on monday after, after a little party in marbella. but it was unmissable. it just had to come. you know, it's an occasion that you can't really miss, so i. >> i] >> i ..- >> i went .._ >> i went to i. >> i went to dusseldorf. >> i went to dusseldorf. >> went to dortmund, obviously for the semis. i ended up staying out here and found myself in berlin at brandenburg gate, going home now on tuesday, because it's impossible to get a flight on monday. >> i put you into a score prediction score prediction that i've got to go with my, my heart

of an eye. >> i'm going to go two one england. >> harry kane, last minute winner. all right, well, that'll be on the pitch. >> that would be adam. thank you very much for joining >> that would be adam. thank you very much forjoining us. of course we're also here with chris skudder. almost tripping me up, chris. i mean, you know, here we are. you know, right in front of brandenburg gate. i mean, this is quite the occasion, isn't it, for this final. >> yeah. i hear all the stories already of people travelling and it's been so hard to get here by plane or by train, especially for the people who are coming late. and, a lot of driving over now. it's about a ten hour drive, i think, from calais. so but people just want to be here and just to give it a bit of context, historically, we remember when football's coming home came out 1996. gazza and all that. and in england the germans won it and were singing football's coming home. and that really hurt for an englishman . really hurt for an englishman. so here we are 28 years later and football's coming home. we've got everything crossed. and wouldn't it be great to see it in germany because they've been sort of not happy the way england have sort of what, how they consider to be scraping

through the tournament. but here we are. you know, it doesn't matter how you do it, you're here. and to win it in front of the brandenburg gate tomorrow night would be incredible. they're probably about 20,000 england fans here, 30,000 probably in the stadium. i think we'll outnumber the spanish, >> it was a bit of a different story in dortmund, wasn't it? but you know, we've got some of the spanish and whatever, you know, so we got some of the spanish, of course, that have, that have been coming here to get their photos and, you know, in front of these such historic, things. so, you know, like you say, it's going to be a very different story compared to dortmund, where the dutch, you know, had 110,000 here. we could well outnumber the spanish. and hopefully that will make an even better atmosphere. >> that was a really weird one in dortmund, because a lot of the england fans were staying in dusseldorf and, bochum and cologne and didn't watch the match. the ones who didn't get in the stadium in in dortmund. but i think it'll be different here. they'll, they'll come and just flood this place, a huge fan zone here. and as i say, you know, to see that trophy lifted in right in front, just down the road from the reichstag and by the brandenburg gate would be just amazing, wouldn't it, but,

you know , it's going to be you know, it's going to be tight, | you know, it's going to be tight, i think. so, you know, spain have got some great players, but i think we have the momentum . that's that's probably momentum. that's that's probably the right way of putting it. just go. >> southgate's talk to me about growing into this tournament. so fingers crossed. you know he can he can say the right things to those those in the dressing room. but chris for now thank you very much. we'll be with us of course all afternoon thanks to adam earlier as well. that england fan to get the picture here on the ground in berlin. >> thank you very much. jack jack carson for us live in berlin and jack will be joining us throughout the rest of the program to bring us up to date. and the last time i saw he was hoisted on someone's shoulders, looking very uncomfortable as well. so jack, i expect that next time round as well. thank you very much, jack. now joining me now is our reporter anna riley. and anna. where anna. lovely to see you. where are you today exactly ? today exactly? >> we're in rainy hall at the moment. we are at pelican park community trust. it's a charity that caters for sports for all ages. but this morning football

has been the game of choice. we've had young people, teams between the ages of 16 and 12, under—tens and even some really little ones as well. so it's been fantastic and i'm joined by jan hornby. she's the trustee here and we've been talking earlier haven't we. just about how much the euros have inspired youngsters here in their football. yeah. well we've been running an academy now on a saturday morning for, for, for many, many months. >> but just this last couple of weeks we've noticed the numbers have gone up, not particularly of the 12, 13 and 14 year olds, but the little six, seven, eight, nine year olds. so it's obviously something's happening. obviously everyone's got euro final, fever. yeah absolutely. and i want to play football and be the next harry kane or.

>> good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headunes wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines just after 1230, a 34 year old man has now been arrested in connection with the investigation into human remains found in two suitcases near clifton. suspension bridge. armed police detain the man at bristol temple meads station and he will be taken to london for questioning later. there had been a manhunt in the wake of the discovery of body parts, but police are now not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident. investigators believe the remains found at an address in shepherd's bush are unked address in shepherd's bush are linked to those found in two suitcases in bristol on wednesday . the family of three wednesday. the family of three women who were killed in a crossbow attack in hertfordshire this week have said they are devastated. john hunt and his daughter amy issued a statement after the murders of 61 year old carol hunt and her two

daughters, 25 year old louise and hannah, who's 28, who were attacked at their home in bushey. it comes as the 26 year old man has now been arrested on suspicion of the murders . old man has now been arrested on suspicion of the murders. in other news, the prince of wales has said he is so proud of england ahead of the euros 2024 final against spain tomorrow. they've reached the tournament's final for the second time in a row after being beaten by italy on penalties at wembley in 2021. ahead of tomorrow's match, prince william added go out there and show the world what you're made of. we believe and the princess of wales will attend the wimbledon men's singles final tomorrow and present the trophy. it will be her second public appearance since her cancer diagnosis was announced earlier this year, after she attended trooping the colour last month. princess catherine has been a patron of the all england lawn tennis and croquet club since 2016. those are the latest gb news

headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. welcome back to gb news saturday at dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now we are still talking football. i know , i talking football. i know, i know, i'm sorry, but come on. and we are joining our reporter, will hollis in cambridgeshire. hello. good afternoon. will, what's happening where you are today? >> yes. good afternoon. we've changed location today. we're now in mansfield, which some people have called the berlin of the midlands. and we're here because this is one of the places where a fan zone has erupted. as england took on the

netherlands just a few days ago. and it was that win and celebrations in pubs like this that have created this massive buzz around britain. there really are only three places that you can watch the football overin that you can watch the football over in berlin, and if you're not already on your way there or celebrating at the brandenburg gate, then it's probably too late for that . sitting at home late for that. sitting at home with your family, watching it on a small screen with a selection of peanuts, or by coming down to fan zones and pubs like the swan here in mansfield, the effect on pubs has been massive. this euros has brought in around, millions of pounds an additional 20% boost on game days. this particular final, though hospitality uk estimates it will bnngin hospitality uk estimates it will bring in £120 million to the hospitality sector. just from the game against spain on sunday. kate nicholls, the ceo of hospitality uk, says it's going to be a momentous day and that pubs will be packed out to the rafters and we know that our pubs, after desperate years of

decline, really do need that support. so while it might cost a bit more than it used to come and have a drink at a pub, there is still an incredible atmosphere and lots of people will be cheering on the three lions. all that needs to happen now is england needs to bring it home. >> well , i home. >> well, i mean this is going to be a huge i mean i mean, we're getting a few comments that, oh my god, you're talking about football. i mean, it doesn't happen that often. and it's going to be a huge boost to the economy. £2.4 billion boost for the uk economy. so it's it is a good thing to happen to the country isn't it. >> yes. it's a lot of wonga isn't it. and we need it because we know how difficult it has been recently . but more money in been recently. but more money in the coffers means more pubs can stay open. it means that more people can get together and have a community spirit all year round, not just when the football is on, but we know how big the football is for bringing the nation together right now , the nation together right now, i'm here in a part of the swan

pub that will be completely packed on sunday. they've let me in early, but the rest of the pub is full of people. a lot of people wearing england shirts as well , because they're getting well, because they're getting into the spirit already . because into the spirit already. because this gap between netherlands and spain , these two games, it is spain, these two games, it is a few days, but it keeps people excited and it keeps people connected . connected. >> brilliant. that's will hollis there, who's been allowed into a pub early and that's his excuse and he is sticking to it. well thank you very much. we'll be talking to you later on during the programme. and now another sport completely the time is edging closer to the torch lighting of the 2024 paris olympic games in the build up and during the games, we on gb news are going to be chatting to athletes about their experiences and what we can expect from team gb. this year. this week, we're delighted to be joined by olympic gymnast lisa mason. lisa was the first british gymnast to make finals in european and world championships, and helped great britain take the full

first ever full team to olympic games. lisa, thank you so much for joining us. really appreciate forjoining us. really appreciate it and looking fantastic. if i if i may say so, so you competed in the year 2000 was it? yeah and what just paint a little picture for us of what it's actually like to compete in the olympic games. >> i mean, when you walk into the olympic village, it can be very surreal , very surreal, >> it's like this, you know, fairytale kind of village there. everyone's there. spirits are high, i think we got more excited with the fact that we had, you know, 24 hour free mcdonald's when we were there as well, >> very healthy. yeah coca—cola, >> very healthy. yeah coca—cola, >> but i mean, everyone's there because you're literally surrounded by the best athletes in the world, you know? and i actually read a statistic the other day that the chances of you becoming an olympian are 0.003. so you get there. it is surreal . but, i mean, everyone's surreal. but, i mean, everyone's energy is just contagious. you're excited, the nerves are

there, but you know, this is the biggest compete like competition in any sport. you know. so to be there is a privilege in itself. >> and to have the eyes of the world on you. i mean, it's such a momentous occasion and we're all looking forward to it in paris this year. i mean , what's paris this year. i mean, what's it like for you as someone who's been there and this is you? we're seeing you now. oh my golly gosh. yeah that's pretty impressive. >> and that was after a mcdonald's. i know. >> what's it like now for you with the olympics coming up and, you know, remembering what you achieved, what's it like watching now the youngsters are following in your footsteps? i mean, i mean, it's come a long way. >> i mean, the equipment has changed slightly as well, it's a lot softer and a lot more bouncy than it was in my day , but than it was in my day, but watching it, i think we get excited because we have come so far, especially in my sport in gymnastics. you know, as you said earlier, we were the first team to ever qualify a whole

team to ever qualify a whole team for the olympics. we'd never done that. now our girls around here getting medals, you know, and that's an amazing thing. so the team that we're sending is quite a young team. we have one vet there, but i just think that they can do amazing. i'm so excited. and i think every gymnast or every athlete can relate to when the olympics comes out. we all think that we can, you know, do our old sport again. we sit there, yes, in the gym, like . like we yes, in the gym, like. like we do handstand. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> no. quite a few men at the moment are of a certain age who are sort of talking about the. i could do better than that. and with a beer and a burger sitting on the sofa, i could do better than that. right. but it's very i mean, all sport is inspirational for the younger generations. i mean, especially this year we have got the euros. obviously, we've got the olympics coming up. i mean, what would your message be to to, youngsters now who are wanting to get into it, wanting to compete or inspired by what athletes like yourself have done and what our young footballers are doing? >> i say, you know, i would say go out and try everything, because sometimes, especially if you're coming from a background

where you're not really encouraged much, you know, there's a lot of kids out there that are fighters and they're naturally talented, and no one's really there praising them. and i think if you've got the opportunity to go to a free club, because even now there are so many sporting clubs that are available to lower income families as well, which is amazing. just try things, try different things . it might be different things. it might be something that you could be like, oh, i don't know how i feel about that, but once you get it, you get it. and you know, we all know exercise is great for all of us. it makes us happy. so where's the endorphins, isn't it? >> i mean, ben's looking slightly dubious at me there. >> oh, no, i completely agree. i completely agree, ben is inspiring. >> time for sport, isn't it? this summer we have, as i said, we've got the euros. we've got the olympics coming up. >> i love it when we get these spates of sporting events. you become a kind of adrenaline junkie, watching england, keeping you on the edge of your seat. are they going to come through? you know, we travel in

hope and often arrive disappointed. but i love it. what i what and you get an equally big sort of anti—climax when the sporting events end. you know what i mean? you go, well, what am i going to do? this afternoon? because it's all ended. but, you know, i think it's great. it's great for youngsters. the 2012 olympics in the united kingdom, i think did a huge amount for sporting intent and, you know, aspiration and sport. i did a bit of sport when i was not to your level, not to your level, but a bit of sport. and one of the great things about being in a team is that you learn teamwork, you learn to pull together. it is aspirational. you have targets. you have to be disciplined in to order meet those targets. you know, it's a fantastic life experience. so i think it's terrific that people like you not just succeed in sport, but then go on to advocate for it and, you know, fly the flag. i think it's terrific. yeah michael, i mean, it is important that we get youngsters involved in sport. >> i mean, so many of them, especially young women. there's a report recently that so many young women give up all sport when they're 13 years old

because they, they think it's not feminine. so i mean, you know, it's the message to get involved in sport, which is good for every part of you mentally and physically. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, also, i like these international tournaments because it's i like a shared experience. you know, i like it when the whole nation is watching the same program on television, you know, whether that be, you know, love island, x factor or the football, you know, so it's quite nice that we're all doing the same thing for an evening. >> i've never watched love island. >> you've never watched love island. oh, you're not, you're not a true patriot. >> sure. guilty pleasure. come on. >> we've known you that. >> we've known you that. >> we've known you that. >> we know that i mean it. should there be better facilities for youngsters in this country to get in sport? i mean , we just don't. it doesn't mean, we just don't. it doesn't seem that for easy youngsters, you know, especially from poorer backgrounds. >> yeah , absolutely. i mean, i >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, i think this was one of the sort of short sighted elements of austerity, which was to sort of say, oh, anything that's not 100% necessary, we'll get rid of it. and especially because local authorities are under loads of pressure at the moment, because they've got these statutory requirements, which is that they

have to provide social care, they have to provide, you know, care for children who are having mental health difficulties. and that means all the things that get cut are the extras, and the extras are things like the tennis court or the gymnasium. >> that's true. yeah >> that's true. yeah >> lisa, final. we've run out of time. unfortunately i know it's not your sport, but football . not your sport, but football. how's england going to do? >> well, i mean, i'm backing them all the way. i'm excited. i'm not sure where i'm watching it yet, but, you know what? it's such a young team, and they have just done amazing. and i just. regardless of the outcome , regardless of the outcome, you've really got to give them a round of applause because they have been doing it and it's got the penalties. they've already proved themselves. we can do this. yes, we can do penalties. >> brilliant. that's lisa mason. thank you very much for joining us today. really appreciate it. and if you are thinking of getting involved get out there and do it. don't sit on your sofa. never a better time to get out there and do it. when i work what your sport is, i'm dawn neesom this is gb news and there's lots more coming up on

today's really packed show, can the three lions make history and beat spain tomorrow night and be crowned champions of europe? we have a former england player talking about england's chances. all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel. don't go too far.

welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, onune with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now. manager gareth southgate says his team are ready to make history after reaching the final of euro 2024. a stunning stoppage time goal from substitute ollie watkins secured a21 victory over the netherlands. how can we forget it? in dramatic fashion this week ? now comes the test. the week? now comes the test. the three lions will face spain tomorrow night with the hope of being crowned european champions. we, i'm thrilled to

say a joined now by former england player trevor steven and sports broadcaster aidan magee aiden and trevor. thank you very much for joining aiden and trevor. thank you very much forjoining me this much for joining me this afternoon. trevor, i mean, you know, we're all sitting on our sofas. we're screaming at our tellies. i think never have so many tellies been screamed at in the history of football, what is it like as a player? i mean, just paint a little portrait of what it is like to be a player at on the world stage? i mean, you've been there. you won. what is it , 34 you've been there. you won. what is it, 34 caps. 36 caps. and to get what you what we're giving the players out there. what's it like? >> it's difficult to sum sum that up. i never got to a final, dunng that up. i never got to a final, during the period that i was playing, but we got into the semi—final of the world cup and the quarterfinal, the hand of god game, way back in 1986, in the world cup, they're incredibly proud moments, you know, for, for you as an individual footballer, it's, it's the culmination of, you

know, all the schoolboy hours that you put in, to becoming a professional. and it becomes the, the pinnacle or the pinnacle that you're searching for. these guys , these lads have for. these guys, these lads have got so much to play for now. they've been to a final before and they'll just be feeling ready for it now , and i think ready for it now, and i think one of the key things which i picked up on gareth southgate yesterday was he's trying to drain the emotion out of it. as far as the fanfare and the hullabaloo around the, the 90 minutes football. we'll see tomorrow night, which is a great thing, i always felt when i was playing, we didn't really have that protection, so much. we were kind of , that protection, so much. we were kind of, in that protection, so much. we were kind of , in the firing were kind of, in the firing line, very easily into the media in those days. a lot more protection now, a lot more understanding. i think, of what it means to wear the england shirt. but these lads are now ready. and what i love about them is their the spirit that they have in their group and, they have in their group and, the ability to keep believing in

themselves. you know, we've seen themselves. you know, we've seen them go through on penalties. we've seen the bellingham, you know, the last few minutes goal strike, the overhead kick and of course, we had to wait quite a long time for ollie watkins to make his mark, so they're ready . make his mark, so they're ready. and i've seen a steady improvement as well through the tournament. so, really excited about tomorrow . about tomorrow. >> just quickly, trevor, if i may, it's aidan. here it was 24 years of hurt, i think in 1990. it's doubled now to 58 years of hurt, just quickly for us, where the what? the key battles on the pitch. where do you think you'll be won or lost? >> if you look at the spain team, i mean, it's phenomenal. and the way that they've gelled together really strong in defence. excellent in midfield. and they've got the two, you know, greyhounds if you like, on the, on the flanks through jamal and nico williams, but we haven't to worry too much about them. we have to play our own game and i'm very interested and keen to, to see how aggressive we are at the start of the of

the match. and can we take trevor? >> i have to stop you there. i'm afraid because we need to. we need to go. but thanks very much indeed for joining need to go. but thanks very much indeed forjoining us. and we indeed for joining us. and we wish you a good game and hope that england win all those battles you're talking about. >> lots more coming up. don't go too far. see you soon. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . solar sponsors of weather on. gb. news >> hello. good afternoon. this is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the search for summer really is on hold at the moment for many of us disappointing conditions this weekend. high pressure is tantalisingly close out towards the west, but it is this low pressure in the north sea that is driving conditions for a good chunk of us today, particularly down the eastern side. very cloudy with continuing outbreaks of rain and drizzle this afternoon , drizzle this afternoon, persistently turning heavy even to this evening and overnight for parts of the scottish borders. northumberland down into north—east yorkshire as well. do watch out for that. the skies will be clearing a touch more for southern areas of england and wales. a few mist

and fog patches here overnight and fog patches here overnight and maybe single figures for some rural spots, but underneath the cloud elsewhere, temperatures will be holding up in double digits for most of us. but actually, with these clearer skies in the south, it does mean that we'll start off sunday on a better note, a decent amount of sunshine first thing for these southern districts. the mist and fog will clear quite readily once the sun rises as well. so not too bad of a start if you're heading out early on a few bright spells for northern ireland as well. still a lot of cloud though for central northern areas of england with that drizzly outbreaks of rain, central and western areas of scotland actually not faring too badly. but again, in the north and the east, a lot of cloud coming in with that brisk north easterly flow down in from the nonh easterly flow down in from the north sea. this rain will turn lighter as we head throughout the day, so generally turning a bit more patchy but still very dull and dreary for much of southern scotland into northern england throughout sunday. a few showers possible elsewhere but really holding on to a few brighter spots also. and in that brightness as well, temperatures a little up compared to where we have been today, around 20 to

23 c for central scotland into parts of the south as well, but still very cool and disappointing in that central area. the rain will ease off as we head into sunday evening just in time for any outdoor viewing parties for the euros grand final. and as we head into the next week, though , do be next week, though, do be prepared for more areas of low pressure, rain and showers to start arriving into the rest of the weekend. by >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news

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as prison overcrowding is blamed for drastic measures. the justice secretary has announced that some prisoners , including that some prisoners, including violent ones, could be released after serving just 40% of their sentence. are britain's streets about to become unsafe, though even more unsafe even? and roll returned with the news that the princess of wales will be returning to wimbledon for the final. and as america's once seemingly gone quiet on harry and meghan, are we seeing a royal revival in fortunes for the royal family? and yes , it's the royal family? and yes, it's coming home. possibly. don't say that. it's a jinx, gareth southgate says his team are ready to make history after reaching the final of euro 2024. but can the three lions beat spain tomorrow night and become european . champions? but this european. champions? but this show is nothing without you and your views. let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today by

visiting gbnews.com. slash your say and join the conversation or message me on our socials. even easier just @gbnews. but first, it's easier just @gbnews. but first, wsfime easier just @gbnews. but first, it's time for the news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> dawn. thank you. good afternoon. from the gb newsroom at just gone 1:00. your top story this hour. a 34 year old man has now been arrested in connection with the investigation into human remains found in two suitcases near clifton suspension bridge. armed police detained the man at bristol temple meads station and he will be taken to london for questioning later. there had been a manhunt in the wake of the discovery of body parts , but the discovery of body parts, but police are now not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident. investigators believe the remains found at an address in shepherd's bush are unked address in shepherd's bush are linked to those found in the two suitcases in bristol on wednesday, the family of three

women who were killed in a crossbow attack in hertfordshire this week have said they are devastated . john this week have said they are devastated .john hunt and his devastated. john hunt and his daughter amy issued a statement after the murders of 61 year old carol hunt and her two daughters, 25 year old louise and hannah, who's 28, who were attacked at their home in bushey. it comes as a 26 year old man has now been arrested on suspicion of the murders, and in the us , president joe biden has the us, president joe biden has confirmed he's going to stay as a democratic candidate for the upcoming election. it comes as top democratic donors have threatened to withhold around £70 million of campaign funds if joe biden isn't replaced as candidate. that's after more blunders at the nato summit. speaking at a campaign rally in detroit, biden told his supporters that not only will he run, but he will also win the presidency once again. you probably noticed there's a lot of speculation lately . of speculation lately. >> what's joe biden going to do? is he going to stay in the race?

is he going to stay in the race? is he going to stay in the race? is he going to drop out? here's my answer . i is he going to drop out? here's my answer. i am running and we're going to win. >> i'm not going to change that . >> i'm not going to change that. >> i'm not going to change that. >> but professor of us politics, scott lucas has told gb news most democrats want biden to step down. >> some democrat donors have already said they will not provide money to the campaign, until the situation is resolved. in other words, until biden, steps down, you've mentioned those that have now said that they are planning to do so, but they are planning to do so, but the democrats are already losing some funds. i think what you're going to see this weekend is, you know, there's going to be a review by those high up in the democratic party where they are in the financial situation. they're going to review the polling, which actually shows that biden and trump are still running neck to neck , but that running neck to neck, but that a majority of democrats do want biden to step aside. and they're going to look at biden's performance . performance. >> meanwhile, elon musk has reportedly donated to a political group working to elect

donald trump as president, according to bloomberg, the amount was not known, but it was amount was not known, but it was a sizeable amount given to a group called america pac. the tesla founder, mr musk, has not responded to these reports. meanwhile, biden campaign spokesman james singer has accused musk of knowing trump is accused musk of knowing trump is a sucker who will sell america out, cutting his taxes while raising taxes on the middle classes . alec baldwin's classes. alec baldwin's manslaughter case has been dismissed by a judge nearly three years on from the death of halyna hutchins on the set of the western film rust in new mexico. the cinematographer halyna was shot with a revolver that mr baldwin was using in rehearsals in 2021. the trial collapsed three days into baldwin's trial in santa fe. it is the second time the case against the actor has been dismissed, and he will not be tried again. the us actor broke down in tears as the judge dismissed the involuntary manslaughter case against him. >> the sanction of dismissal is

the only warranted remedy. the jury the only warranted remedy. the jury has been sworn , jeopardy jury has been sworn, jeopardy has attached and a mistrial would not be based upon manifest necessity. further, the sanction of dismissal is warranted in this case. >> in other news, the prince of wales has said he is so proud of england ahead of the euro 2024 final against spain tomorrow. they've reached the tournament's final for the second time in a row after being beaten by italy on penalties at wembley in 2021. ahead of tomorrow's match, prince william added go out there and show the world what you're made of. we believe. and the princess of wales will attend the wimbledon men's singles final tomorrow and present the trophy. it will be her second public appearance since her cancer diagnosis was announced earlier this year, after she attended trooping the colour last month. princess catherine has been a patron of the all england lawn tennis and croquet club since 2016. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia

wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, sophia. now let's get straight into today's story, shall we, some violent prisoners will be released early in an attempt to tackle overcrowding. justice secretary shabana mahmood has announced the scheme to release thousands of prisoners to avoid a total breakdown of law and order. this comes as former home secretary suella braverman said labouris secretary suella braverman said labour is putting the public at risk with this new scheme. joining me now is gb news political correspondent katherine forster to explain exactly what is going on. catherine, thank you very much. still raining where you are , i still raining where you are, i see. what a surprise, catherine,

can you explain exactly what this this policy is about and what's going to happen ? yes. what's going to happen? yes. dawn, so this was already happening under the last conservative government. they were having to release prisoners early because the jails, frankly , early because the jails, frankly, are full. there's only about 700 spaces for men remaining in engush spaces for men remaining in english and welsh prisons. there's a big problem with overcrowding. so this was already happening. but what labour are going to do is rather than release people at 50% of their sentence, bring it forward to 40. for people that have sentences of less than four years now. originally it sounded like that meant that no violent offenders would be released early. it's since emerged. that's not the case. so we could be looking at people with convictions for things like assault, knife crime, firearms offences, burglary , etc, the

offences, burglary, etc, the government are saying they're going to release about 5000 people early by the end of the yeah people early by the end of the year. they're giving a couple of months for probation services to get ready for this. but i have to say, it's going to be incredibly difficult because the probation service already, frankly, is on its knees as it is without this additional, burden. but shabana mahmood, the justice secretary, says that this is the only way to avert disaster because basically, if the prisons are full, then people have to be put into police cells, then the courts can't convict people. there's nowhere to put them. police can't arrest people. and she's saying that we could see looters running amok, smashing in windows, robbing shops, setting neighbourhoods alight, potentially. so a sort of doomsday scenario there, saying that this is the least bad option. but certainly, you know,

it doesn't reflect well, on where we are now. a lot of people think that lots of things in britain are broken, but this is a situation that has been building for years and putting more people in jail and simply not having the places for them. and just one last thought . i and just one last thought. i think it's really interesting that they've appointed james timpson of the timpson key cutting and shoe fixing chain. he they've appointed him as prisons minister. he and very famously employed convicts. and he says that he reckons probably only about a third of people currently in jail actually should be there. that another third possibly shouldn't be and that another third again should never have been put in jail in the first place. so i think there's a big rethink coming. but at the moment they've got a huge crisis to try to get to control . indeed. katherine control. indeed. katherine forster, thank you very much for bringing us up to date on the

not a new scheme. the conservatives already put this into place to release prisoners early because prisons are so overcrowded , lots of you getting overcrowded, lots of you getting in touch on this subject at all, dylan says keep the violent prisoners in and release the non—violent ones. it depends on your definition of how violent is violent , doesn't it? is violent, doesn't it? basically. and, then, why don't carol says, why don't we deport those waiting to deported, the i think, carol, you mean the people in prison who are foreign prisoners? there's quite a few of them, so there are lots of you getting in touch on this one as well. and dickie says the government should be deporting all the foreign criminals. again, a theme that's running around for a lot of you , should around for a lot of you, should we be deporting all the foreign criminals they fought so hard to keep here when in opposition? that would solve the prisons crisis that the tories allegedly caused in one fell swoop. well, i think , as i said, this is a i think, as i said, this is a both a tory and a labour

initiative because something has to be done. doesn't it, alex? but is this the right thing to do? it >> i think, you know, as your reporter is talking about, you know, there were plans for some years to look at this. >> you know, at the moment, you know, you've got lots of people that are on good behaviour after around half of their sentence can be released. you know, there's obviously, you know, lots of restrictions as to make sure that they don't release the wrong people, hence why it needs to be on good behaviour and good behaviour for some time in their sentence. i actually think that there's lots of evidence to suggest that maybe they're looking at this from the wrong lens. i actually, you know, i've just finished jury service and obviously i can't go into the details of the case, but actually a lot of cases that we see are to do with mental health issues. yes. you know, with people that actually, you know, have you've done, you know, abh, gbh, you know, people that have been in, you know, fights, you know, being aggressive towards, you know , hospital staff, you know, hospital staff, etcetera, etcetera. and actually sometimes they get sentenced to go to prison, which is actually not the right place for them at all. there needs to be a kind of mental health wards. and actually you can make an argument that, you know, the stats i saw said about 15% of

people that were in prison were actually related to mental health illness. actually, you know, that's something straight away that labour could look at drug and drink issues and dependency issues . yep, yep. so dependency issues. yep, yep. so they can look at it. and i actually think that, you know, a lot of people get get worried about this thinking, oh my gosh, you know, we're going to have people that are, you know, rapists and murderers coming out. absolutely not the case. there's no evidence to suggest, you know, these are people that have been in fights. these people, as you say, that have got, you know, drink issues that have been related to drug offences. now, that's not good. but equally, they're not the most serious offences. and i think the majority of the public will agree that prisons have got to be a space for the most serious offenders, and there's got to be other programs for other offenders. okay >> and that's alex cairns, founder of youth vote uk. also joining me at this hour is albie amankona, the host of the saturday five here on gb news. i'll be what do you make of this policy? >> this is an awful situation that the country should never have got itself into in the first place. and it is a result of underfunding prisons over decades. >> it's never a very sexy thing

to say at an election . to say at an election. >> we're going to spend billions of pounds on prisons. >> who on earth is going to vote for that? >> when people have got all of these other demands on the state, the nhs, pensions, defence, housing, it's never going to be popular for a politician to go around knocking on doors saying we need to spend billions on prisons. but the point is we do need to spend billions on prisons. otherwise these are the outcomes that we see happening now. the conservative government when they were in power in 2020, announced the new national prison building programme, costing £4 billion. >> a lot of prison capacity was meant to come online in the middle of the 2020s. >> that is not happening because of issues with the planning system, which means that three prisons, three mega prisons, which are opening, i think in lancashire, leicestershire and buckinghamshire are not going to open until the end of the decade because of planning objections. >> and this is planning to be fair. the labour party have said they are sorting out planning applications as well, so maybe that will help the situation with building new prisons. i mean, building on the green belt,

which we've heard a lot about as well. >> but but i actually really don't agree that the solution is to build more prisons. i think there needs to be intervention earlier, and that's why community policing is very, very important in the community. you know, the solution to just say we're we're inevitably going to have lots of people going to prison. so let's just build more prisons. i don't think it's a solution at all. you've got to look at what's happening in the community. there's got to be more done at schools. >> some people need to be punished. >> no, no, but but the reality of you just saying that we're going to have to build more prisons, but we do inevitable. it has to. it has to be an early intervention. it's the same thing with nhs. you're basically saying that lots of people are inevitably going to come to hospital. so we've got to build more hospitals. no, there's got to be something done earlier. do you believe in prison, alex? i believe in prison for the most serious offenders, i don't believe. what does that mean? i don't believe someone that's had, you know, a drinking problem that has, you know, assaulted several people on a night out on a few occasions, should be in prison next to someone that's potentially murdered, someone it's completely different situation. there's got to be other preventative measures because otherwise what do we have the situation now we've got the

situation now we've got the situation now we've got the situation now where the prisons are overcrowded. and i agree with timpson. there's a lot of evidence that suggests that a portion of people that are in there shouldn't be there. >> why would you say that? just because someone is drunk and they commit an assault on someone, that they are less deserving of going to prison than someone who wasn't drunk when they committed an assault on someone? >> the outcome is the same. >> the outcome is the same. >> you're causing a grievous bodily injury to an innocent member of the public. >> that victim would want to see justice served, would they not? >> but what would you say to a family where someone you know murdered their loved ones and there wasn't space for them in that prison because there was too many people that had you know, had a punch up on a night out. are you saying that that's more important for them to be in prison than versus the person that's murder. >> that's why we need to build more prisons, which is what i support. >> i think we're not going to agree on this clearly, but i think we've got to step in earlier and find solutions in the community. >> the one thing i'm not hearing from anybody here is about the victims. i'm hearing a lot about caring for the mental health of prisoners. a few people are mentioning that already, what about the mental health of victims? i mean, i appreciate

what you say about, you know, getting into into into a fight when you're drunk, but what about, you know, the men? it's not always men. i know that's involved in domestic violence, but what about the men that go home after football? this happens a lot, by the way. go home and beat the wife up. i mean, you know. all right, they've got a drink issue. they might have a mental health issue. but what about the woman involved in that? i'm not saying i get domestic violence happens both sexes. but what about the victims? why are we not hearing about the victims here? >> listen, i agree , i know it's >> listen, i agree, i know it's a difficult situation and obviously there's going to be lots of victims in this that will be very traumatised thinking, oh, you know what? for whatever reason, they were told by, you know, the court there wasn't enough space in the prison. so, so the person that, you know, hit you or, you know, beat adieu isn't going to go to prison. i completely accept that. that's unacceptable. however, there's going to be a scale here of, you know, the opinions about what is the most serious and what capacity that they have. i just don't believe that the solution is to build more prisons. and that's just my perspective on this. >> i'll be in, in i think the

netherlands actually, they did introduce more community sentencing and policing and it did decrease the jail population. so people were serving a sentence at home. so a house arrest with tagging, etc, etc. and that seems to have helped. but is that something that would work in this country with our probation service on its knees already? and just not enough social care services to look after people properly? i don't think there's any reason why a scheme that has worked well in a country which is quite similar to the uk, like the netherlands , couldn't work in netherlands, couldn't work in the uk. >> but fundamentally i think the disagreement that i have with perhaps some people on the left that i think really just fundamentally don't actually believe in prison and that's fine. >> just make that point and be honest about it. >> is that i do actually believe in prison, and i'm perfectly happy that people are punished for crimes that they commit in a quite a harsh way, because i think for the victims of crime, that is, that's quite often what these people want to see. >> they don't want to see that

these people are having soft sentences in the community or whatever they want to know that these people have been punished. >> but on the other side of the ledger, prison has got to be about rehabilitation. and it's no longer about rehabilitation because the prisons are so overcrowded, so underfunded that it is impossible to rehabilitate people. and essentially what you're doing by sending people to prison is making it more likely that they're going to reoffend. >> the one suggestion that keeps coming up from viewers and listeners, and please do keep your views coming in, is that we have a lot of foreign prisoners in our jails. why don't we almost 12% of prisoners are foreign nationals. why don't we just deport them back to the countries they came from originally ? originally? >> because again, you know, in terms of the administrative and logistics on that, it's, you know, i don't necessarily disagree with that. but again, it's very complicated . and it's very complicated. and again, you know, all of these ideas cost money and staff resources. and while you're trying to sort that out, there's going to be, you know, there's already up to a three year backlog to in the courts at the

moment. and that's ridiculous. we've got people waiting three, four years. if they've actually been in, you know, a sexual offence or potential rape case and they're waiting years, you know, so there needs to be more attention to that than this constant obsession with any, any foreigner in the nhs or any foreigner in the nhs or any foreigner in the courts . let's foreigner in the courts. let's just deport them. we know from the rwanda scheme that that takes time and it's very, very complicated . and i actually complicated. and i actually disagree with you. i actually think people on the left do do agree with prisons, but actually some of you don't. but the disagreement me and you have is i actually think that prison should be for the most serious offences. i don't think that people getting into a punch up on a night out that causes some bruising should then result in that person going to prison for six months. it's just a waste of a space of a cell, in my opinion. and that's just where the right and the left disagree on this. >> i'd be interested to hear your views out there. if you have been a victim of an assault, sort of like beaten up by a drunk on the way home, what do you think should happen to the person that attacked you? do you get in touch and let us know

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hello and welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. hope you have a wonderful weekend out there. it's a big one, isn't it? now manager gareth southgate says his team are ready to make history after reaching the final of euro 2024, a stunning stoppage time goal from substitute ollie watkins secured

a21 victory over the netherlands in dramatic fashion this week. now the three lions face spain tomorrow night with the hope of being crowned european champions. joining me now is gb news reporterjack champions. joining me now is gb news reporter jack carson, who is hugely lucky and actually out in berlin, where the final is going to be. jack. hello what's going to be. jack. hello what's going on out there now ? going on out there now? >> well, i mean, as you've just seen here, we're right by the berlin cathedral. let's just take another look at that again. i mean, look at that. the fantastic dome on top of there. we can be in berlin and here in germany. so let's bring a bigger history and bring a bit of the sights of the england fans here are going to be seeing as they arrive ready for this tournament. and we're joined once again with chris skudder on the programme. i mean, chris, you know, the history that surrounds us, england can make more history tomorrow night, can't they? >> that place was flattened pretty much in 1945. looks very different now. it's been rebuilt as there's a lot of part of this part of town. but yeah, i mean, it's such an historic place. this and england fans gathering

starting to come in. i think a lot of people still driving here, those who have not been able to fly or get trains here, it's very difficult to come last minute now, but it's a, it's a great city. it really is. and not just england fans, you see. just over to my behind me there, some of the, the spanish fans in their very colourful costume. i was just asking them if they spoke a bit of english, but all i got was eviva espana, which is not going to help really. but there you go. they look. they look fantastic. i'm sure we'll have, you know, this will be a gathering point tomorrow and in various other points and brandenburg gate , where we were brandenburg gate, where we were last hour, there's a huge fan park there , i think there'll be park there, i think there'll be about the stadium. i was there in 2006 for the final when, italy beat france on penalties. there'll be about 30,000 england fans, we reckon inside . and then fans, we reckon inside. and then another 20,000, probably around town. many of them, i reckon, will be in the brandenburg gate fan park, which will be a terrific place to be. and, you

know, wouldn't it be wonderful? wouldn't it be amazing if, having seen the germans win the euros in england and take the mic by singing, football's coming home back in 1996, if we could sing football, football's coming home in germany, that would be pretty special, wouldn't it? >> i mean, this is it and there's a lot of attention on southgate, but mainly because i think of this point of redeeming himself because a lot of people still think that we should have won in 2021 against that italy side. and of course, you know , side. and of course, you know, his contract is out as well. at the end of this tournament. chris, you know, there are a lot of speculation about whether he'll stay, whether he'll go. you know, he said at the moment he's too kind of emotionally in this tournament to make a decision. i mean , what's your decision. i mean, what's your kind of view on that? >> yeah, i think they should have won in 2021. you know, everybody says they obe sat back that day. he sat back against croatia and the world cup semi—final. but he's had that happy knack of winning these games . i mean, at the start of games. i mean, at the start of this tournament, given the squad that england have got, if you said england are going to get to the final, i think that's about par . i think the final, i think that's about

par. i think what people expected semi final, final , expected semi final, final, definitely, if england play well, if they win it he will stay on. i'm pretty certain of that. he says he's going to wait and decide later if they play well and lose bravely. that's a very british thing isn't it? we don't . we past that. it's all don't. we past that. it's all about winning now. i think he still might stay if asked, but if england play as badly as they have so far, certainly in the group stage and lose tomorrow, i think there'll be another massive pile on. i think he'll be criticised again because this is all about winning. be criticised again because this is all about winning . now it's is all about winning. now it's time for us to do it. you can't keep going to these finals, semi—finals and lose. you've got to beat the big teams. before the holland game , we'd never the holland game, we'd never beaten a major nation abroad in a knockout game, so we broke a duck there. spain's going to be another challenge again, they're another challenge again, they're a better team than us. maybe so far, but we've got the better individuals and individual moments can win it for us i think so, of course. >> well, that's what it's going to take, isn't it really. tomorrow. and we'll have more of that from chris and bringing you

a bit more history as well from berlin later in the day. >> thank you very much. that's jack carson's history tour of berlin with a bit of football thrown in for good measure. thank you very much, jack. we'll talk to you more later on, joining me now is our reporter, anna riley, who is, i believe, with some youngsters who've been inspired by england's success. anna. what's happening? where you are. >> good afternoon. don. yes, i'm here at pelican park community trust. it's a sports club for all ages. but this morning it was all about the football . was all about the football. children here, enjoying the sport, enjoying the game. and they've certainly been inspired by england in the euros. just how far they've got and that's affected their game . they said affected their game. they said that they are a lot more interested in football now. speaking to the staff here, they said the numbers have certainly increased as well for children wanting to come along and play football and this is what they told me earlier. >> i think they're going to be

speaking to one. so it's going to be quite a tight game. jamal is a really, really talented young lad. he's really, really good. so i think he's going to pose some like really difficult like situations for us. but i think we can get there if we try our hardest. it's been a while since we've won the euros and it would just be like really exciting that we can beat spain. i feel it's going to be hard, but i think we're going to it's coming home and scoring a few. >> so the players here say it's coming home, don, and it's just fantastic to see the enthusiasm of these young people, see how much the euros and how well england are doing, have bolstered them, really inspired them . and here in hull they say them. and here in hull they say it's coming home. so fingers crossed. england versus spain, fingers crossed england win tomorrow, brilliant . tomorrow, brilliant.

>> thank you anna and so many lovely youngsters. they're just going to read on this. nigel, thank you for getting in touch. nigel role on sunday night. fed up of all the discussions around the euros. it's a game. it's not life changing. well, i think you've heard nigel there that for some youngsters it is life changing. and if those youngsters are inspired by our youngsters are inspired by our young footballers and go on to be footballers themselves, i think that's very inspirational. but keep your views coming in, now let's go to will hollis . now let's go to will hollis. will, are you there? and what's happening where you are? >> yes. a lot of enthusiasm from those youngsters in yorkshire. you'll find a lot of enthusiasm as well here at pubs like the swan in mansfield, where they've been getting into the spirit, their fanzone has been fitting 1200 1500 local people down celebrating the game. it's a little bit more quiet now, but we know that pubs have really benefited from this. euros run. lots of money for individual games for this upcoming game. it's going to be worth £120

million to the uk hospitality sector and the ceo of uk hospitality, kate nicholls, said that pubs are going to be packed to the rafters on what will be a momentous day. we know that pubs have had a desperate time in the last few years, but euros and football tends to fill out these places. right now it's lunchtime on a saturday and a few people are here already in their england shirts. maybe some of them are biding their time , them are biding their time, because we know that a lot of money is going to be spent in places like this tomorrow night, and quite happily , the pubs are and quite happily, the pubs are open till 1:00 with licenses extended, but there's no word yet on that bank holiday and whether people will get a lie—in on monday. >> well, thank you. live from a pub talking about bank holidays, right? we're going to win a or lose 10:00 on sunday night and we'll have a bank holiday next monday. make it make sense. will hollis live from a pub in cambridgeshire? thank you very much. we'll be coming back to you later to see how much you're

helping the hospitality industry out. right. alex and albi are still with me. i'll be excited for the game. phil. good factor. the country needs it, doesn't it? >> i'm so excited. >> i'm so excited. >> i'm so excited. >> i always get into the football once we get to the semi semi—finals or the finals. >> as i said last week, i'm a glow >> as i said last week, i'm a glory hunter so i'm very excited. >> but i'm so jealous that the weather is so much better in berlin than it is anywhere in the united kingdom. >> this is true. >> this is true. >> he was in. >> he was in. >> he was wearing a t shirt. >> he was wearing a t shirt. >> yeah, i can't remember the last time i wore at >> yeah, i can't remember the last time i wore a t shirt. >> alex has got one on now. yeah. >> it's like. yeah but i mean, the thing is, the weather actually is forecast to be good tomorrow and tesco's are expecting to sell nearly 800,000 packs of sausages and more than a million pies as people go and have barbecues and party and watch the game in the sunshine. fingers crossed. >> i'm looking forward to it. i actually think, you know, unlike albi, i watch all of the england games. i support the country from from long march and it is it is difficult, but i think, you know, listen, i think tomorrow will be good weather. i just hope that southgate

actually understands he's got five subs that he can use before the 80th minute. >> yes i know, yes i know, yes a brilliant thank you very much. and i just one quick message from you. keep them coming in. there's so many i'm just i'm running out of time to read them. where's it gone, charles. hi, charles. charles says, still not hearing any congrats and congratulations to england's lionesses. who won yesterday. i thought gb news cared about them. i do care about them. congratulations to the ladies. indeed and of course, you know the women have done it. we've won stuff, haven't we? just saying boys. just saying, probably best go to the news. i think i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday and there's lots more coming up on today's show as we delve deeper into labour's new prison plans. but first, it's the news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> dolan. thank you. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headunes wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines just after 130, a 34 year old man has now been arrested in connection with the investigation into human remains found in two suitcases near clifton suspension bridge . armed

clifton suspension bridge. armed police detained the man at bristol temple meads station and he'll be taken to london for questioning later. there had been a manhunt in the wake of the discovery of body parts, but police are now not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident . investigators the incident. investigators believe the remains found at an address in shepherd's bush are unked address in shepherd's bush are linked to those found in the two suitcases in bristol on wednesday, the family of the three women who were killed in a crossbow attack in hertfordshire this week have said they are devastated. john hunt and his daughter amy issued a statement after the murders of 61 year old carol hunt and her two daughters, 25 year old louise and hannah, who's 28, who were attacked at their home in bushey. it comes as a 26 year old man has now been arrested on suspicion of the murders . an suspicion of the murders. an israeli airstrike has targeted the mastermind behind the 7th of october attack, according to a security official. officials in gaza say at least 71

palestinians have been killed in the strike on a designated humanitarian area, but an israeli official said the strike targeted the head of hamas's military wing in an open area where there were only hamas terrorists and no civilians , and terrorists and no civilians, and the prince of wales has said he is so proud of england. ahead of the euro 2024 final against spain tomorrow. they've reached the tournament's final for the second time in a row after being beaten by italy on penalties at wembley in 2021. ahead of tomorrow's match, prince william added going out there and showing the world what we're made of, we believe those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> thank you very much. i've just got to read this one out quickly. matthew. matthew. hello. hello. hello, matthew, you say if i hear someone say it's coming home one more time, i think my head will explode, right. i think we have to a break now. run out of time. here

oh, dear. we're having an afternoon of it. here we are. we've just been talking about erecting shelves for some reason, but more of that to come later. this is gb news saturday, and i'm dawn neesom on your telly online and on digital radio. now. more on the government's prison chaos. justice secretary shabana mahmood has announced that some violent criminals will be released from prison in an early attempt to tackle overcrowding. it has raised huge questions about the logistics involved,

not least from many of you out there who are very concerned about this. joining me now is somebody who can tell us about that retired prison governor, vanessa frake . vanessa, thank vanessa frake. vanessa, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon . now, you have this afternoon. now, you have been at the sharp end of what it's actually like in prison. i mean, it's we're told it is bad that this has to happen. what do you make of this policy, though? is it a good idea , well good is it a good idea, well good afternoon, dawn , afternoon, dawn, >> i understand people's feelings on it. i absolutely do, but the greater risk is if we run out completely of prison beds , the risk to the public beds, the risk to the public then is even greater for the fact that the police won't , fact that the police won't, won't be able to arrest serious, violent offenders, and will have no choice if police cells are full, if prison cells are full, you know, what are we going to do? >> you know, the grim reality is, is we need to act quickly. >> this should have been dealt with 12 months ago. you know, the previous government were warned. they were warned by the

prison officers association, by the prisoner prison governors association, and they chose to ignore it. and, you know, the situation has got worse and worse. it wasn't like they weren't you know, the prison numbers weren't forecast. and, so really, this government now has to go around cleaning up the mess of the previous government. and the only real way that they can do that is by releasing a certain amount of prisoners. those prisoners will be individually risk risk assessed on an individual basis. the risk assessments will probably have various conditions on it, like must stay in a site, the same place not to go in. areas where the crime occurred, not to contact victims. >> they might be under a curfew , >> they might be under a curfew, >> they might be under a curfew, >> no drinking, no drugs , that >> no drinking, no drugs, that sort of usual thing. and anything that they do, any misdemeanours that they do whilst whilst on licence can,

can result in them being put straight back into jail. >> vanessa, i mean, forgive me here, but the, the probation service and community sentencing and monitoring prisons when they are released, it doesn't it hasn't previously given us loads of confidence. i mean , as we of confidence. i mean, as we know the probation service is on its knees as well . its knees as well. >> yeah, absolutely. you know, most of the public, sectors were stripped of funding for the last ten, 15 years. and, you know, it is a worry. i don't disagree with that. i think the probation service and the monitoring agencies have got around eight weeks before this is enforced , weeks before this is enforced, to try and get their act together and get procedures in place to minimise the risk of reoffending whilst on licence, you know, it's a, it's a it's a gamble without a doubt, but the greater gamble is if they do nothing . nothing. >> vanessa this is a sticking plaster. i think everyone admits that it's not a long term solution. so is the long term solution. so is the long term solution as as album, one of my

panellists suggested to build more prisons or as my other panellist alex suggested, to send less people to prison . send less people to prison. >> i think it's a combination of both to be honest. >> i think we need to look at who we lock up, what we lock them up for and how long we lock them up for and how long we lock them up for and how long we lock them up for. you know , my own them up for. you know, my own personal view is that there's a lot of people in prison who would be better serving their sentence in the community,. those that are first time offenders for non—violent crime , offenders for non—violent crime, those that don't pay their tv licence, you know , those sorts licence, you know, those sorts of crimes, but what i would say is that on the whole , you know, is that on the whole, you know, we've got old victorian prisons that are no longer fit for purpose . they're, they're not up purpose. they're, they're not up to date. they're, you know, some have got sewage running down the landings. you know, this isn't what we want for a modern day prison service. and it's not how we're going to retain staff to work in one, either. >> vanessa, very quickly, we'll run out of time, unfortunately, just quickly. we've got lots of people getting in touch saying

they are worried now that the streets will be less safe than they already are. even what message would you have to people who are now worried that they are more at risk because prisons are more at risk because prisons are being released? i mean, i think i think you have to you have to understand that, you know, it's 40% of a sentence. >> so on a sentence of , say, 12 >> so on a sentence of, say, 12 months, instead of doing six months, instead of doing six months, they'll be doing four and a half months. so in the grand scheme of things, and each prisoner will be risk assessed on an individual basis. and the governor has autonomy over all of that to say no , this this of that to say no, this this person has been, violent whilst in custody and he is not suitable or she is not suitable, for this early release scheme. so i, i would urge people not to feel, too concerned, and, and to trust that those who know prisoners, who know prison systems will will get it right . systems will will get it right. but at the end of the day, there is little else we can do for a

quick fix solution. >> brilliant . vanessa frake, >> brilliant. vanessa frake, retired prison governor and author. thank you very much for joining us, vanessa. i'm always talking sense there, and we have already discussed that lots and lots of people are getting in touch and lots of people taking issue with you, alex, about your comments earlier about, you know, people with drink and drug issues, assaulting people on the street. people are getting in touch saying, well, you know, they need punishing. you know, it's like, you know, i'm the victim in this. we're forgetting about the victims. i mean, you know how how dare that person on your panel say that these people need help? what about the victims? they need help as well. >> yeah, of course, but but my point is, has got to be other measures, because it's always going to be a scale. and the scale of the least serious to the most serious offences. with the most serious offences. with the current capacity, you can't just have a scale where you accept all of them are going to go to prison, for some 12 months, some for 20 years. you know, there's got to be maybe a financial, you know, penalties or maybe they're fined. i don't know, maybe they, they are given some sort of other community

service. but my point is we can't have a situation where some people that murder wouldn't go to prison because they're full with lots of people that have, you know, night out offences, you know, drinking, etcetera. like there's always going to be a scale and i know that that will upset people, but that's the reality. we can't just build more prisons because there's lots of other priorities that i think are more important than just chucking, you know, £2 billion on three more prisons. >> what would you say to those priorities were if you if you think that's the case, i'll be the priorities for prisoners. >> well, look, i've already said my point of view. i think we need to be building more prisons . need to be building more prisons. thatis need to be building more prisons. that is something which is going to be taking take until the end of the decade. >> i think the guests that we just had on speaks a lot of sense. unfortunately, i think it is difficult for conservative mps like suella braverman to attack the labour government for doing something that the conservatives were going to do anyway, and that the conservatives have had 14 years to sort out if they really wanted to. i think it is. it takes an almighty cheek for conservative mps after being in

power for 14 years, to have a go at the labour government for having to fix a problem that the conservatives created and that they came up with the solution. >> lots of people on here. it's a very interesting. i haven't heard it suggested before, lots of people on here. i think it was john. forgive me. i've lost your your message now, you know, we had a system set up with rwanda where we sending people to rwanda. we used to in the past with australia. why don't we use that system now? send prisoners from the overcrowded jails to rwanda. let them finish their prison sentences. there a lot of people there is a massive obsession with, you know, if there's an issue with any capacity, we'll just send them overseas. >> the reality is it's very, very complicated and it takes a long time. and in the meantime, there's still a backlog of potentially prisoners that are going to the courts can't be seen. the reality is the solution is intervene earlier, try and, you know, have a preventative measure as opposed to accepting that everyone's just going to go to prison and everyone needs to understand this is the minority. you know, we don't have 50% of prisons

that have 50% of foreigners. you know , like people do get carried know, like people do get carried away. and i think they need to accept that the preventative measures got to be the strategy here. >> i last word very, very quickly to you, abby. >> there's a reason why we don't have penal colonies anymore. penal colonies are something which russia does. i think sending illegal migrants to a third country for processing and setting up penal colonies are two very different things that if i can just say, is a very silly idea. i think we can. we can certainly deport the 12% of prisoners who are foreign nationals. >> but the idea that we'd send british nationals to serve their prison sentences abroad is absurd. >> right? okay, i'm just going to, the last. thank you very much. the last word coming to you and some for getting in touch. thank you very much, take the prisoners out of prison and get them to build new prisons. sort of makes sense. >> brilliant idea. >> brilliant idea. >> thank you very much, anthony. right. i'm dawn neesom this is gb news saturday, and there's lots more coming up on today's show, so should we talk about the princess of wales returning to wimbledon? all of that and much more to come. this is gb

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hello. welcome back. this is gb news. now we've got some good news for you, princess catherine is going back to wimbledon and joining us now to talk about this actually happy story is the sun's charles rae charles. unfortunately, we haven't got that much time, but this is good news. kate's going to be at wimbledon. >> that's fantastic news that she's going to be at the men's final tomorrow, >> and i suspect that on monday morning, dawn, when we get all our newspapers out, we're going to just see pictures of catherine rather than the tennis players . players. >> sorry. and what were we expecting? this. it comes a bit of a surprise. when i heard the news today, i was like, oh, that's that's actually quite, you know, whether you're a royalist or not. i mean, you know, the fact that she's recovering from the quite

horrendous treatment, it sounds like she's been having, i think there was a lot of speculation that , that people were hoping that, that people were hoping that, that people were hoping that she was going to be there, but we've actually just within the last couple of hours, had it actually confirmed that she is going to attend the men's final and she'll present the trophies like she did last year, >> the sad part is that she won't be there today to do the same for the for the women's, final, but at least we'll get to see her tomorrow, which is the main thing. and you know, best of luck to her. you know , of luck to her. you know, clearly, her recovery is, is going on. and is taking time. >> and it's nice to see her out and about. >> but yeah. no. absolutely. and the other person quickly charles, it was nice chatting about was princess anne this week returning still with a horrifically bruised face. i mean, that must have been some injury. >> yeah, i was beginning to wonder whether the, the horse who did it, what did it is on its way to some knacker's yard somewhere, but i'm. >> i'm sure i'm sure she's looking after looking after the poor animal. >> but yeah , you're absolutely right. >> huge bruise.

>> huge bruise. >> if you looked at some of the pictures this morning you could actually see the bruise. >> so this was just a bit more than just a, you know just a thump. >> and the fact that she had lost her memory for a time, she just shows how dangerous it was that could have been much. >> charles charles thank you so much. two royal ladies making a magnificent comebacks charles rea there from the sun newspaper. well i'm dawn neesom she's gb news. there's loads more coming up on today's show. don't go too far. but first we have the all important weather with jonathan vautrey. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar. sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good afternoon. this is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the search for summer really is on hold at the moment for many of us. disappointing conditions this weekend. high pressure is tantalisingly close out towards the west, but it is this low pressure in the north sea that is driving conditions for a good chunk of us today,

particularly down the eastern side. very cloudy with continuing outbreaks of rain and drizzle this afternoon. persistently turning heavy even to this evening and overnight for parts of the scottish borders. northumberland down into north—east yorkshire as well. do watch out for that. the skies will be clearing a touch more for southern areas of england and wales. a few mist and fog patches here overnight and fog patches here overnight and maybe single figures for some rural spots, but underneath the cloud elsewhere, temperatures will be holding up in double digits for most of us. but actually, with these clearer skies in the south, it does mean that we'll start off sunday on a better note, a decent amount of sunshine first thing for these southern districts, the mist and fog will clear quite readily once the sun rises as well , so once the sun rises as well, so not too bad of a start if you're heading out early on a few bright spells for northern ireland as well. still a lot of cloud though for central northern areas of england with that drizzly outbreaks of rain central and western areas of scotland actually not faring too badly . but scotland actually not faring too badly. but again in the north and the east, a lot of cloud coming in with that brisk north easterly flow down in from the nonh easterly flow down in from the north sea. this rain will turn lighter as we head throughout

the day, so generally turning a bit more patchy , but still very bit more patchy, but still very dull and dreary for much of southern scotland into northern england throughout sunday. a few showers possible elsewhere, but really holding on to a few brighter spots also. and in that brightness as well, temperatures a little up compared to where we have been today around 20 to 23 c for central scotland into parts of the south as well, but still very cool and disappointing in that central area. the rain will ease off as we head into sunday evening just in time for any outdoor viewing parties for the euros grand final. and as we head into the next week, though, do be prepared for more areas of low pressure, rain and showers to start arriving into the rest of the weekend. by >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb

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>> well. >> well. >> hello, and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm dawn neesom for the next hour. keeping you company on tv, online and on digital radio. keeping you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. we've got a packed hour coming up. we really have now, early releases under labour as prison overcrowding is blamed for drastic measures, the justice secretary has announced that some prisoners, including violent ones , could be released violent ones, could be released after serving just 40% of their sentence. our britain's streets are about to get even more unsafe and raw return with the news that the princess of wales will be returning to wimbledon for the final. and as america has once seemingly gone quiet on that harry and meghan situation, are we seeing a royal revival in fortunes for the family ? and fortunes for the family? and yeah, football. let's talk it . yeah, football. let's talk it. gareth southgate says his team are ready to make history after reaching the final of euro 2024. but can the three lions beat spain tomorrow night and become

european . champions? but this european. champions? but this show is nothing without you and your views, so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today or anything you want to chat about. basically your choice, visiting gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation or message me on our socials . really simple our socials. really simple @gbnews. but first, it's time for the news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> dawn. thank you. good afternoon. it'sjust >> dawn. thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone. 2:00 i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this houn newsroom. your top story this hour. a 34 year old man has been arrested in connection with the investigation into human remains found in two suitcases near clifton. suspension bridge. armed police detain the man at bristol temple meads station and he'll be taken to london for

questioning later. there had been a manhunt in the wake of the discovery of body parts, but police are now not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident . investigators the incident. investigators believe the remains, found at an address in shepherd's bush are unked address in shepherd's bush are linked to those found in two suitcases in bristol on wednesday . the family of three wednesday. the family of three women who were killed in a crossbow attack in hertfordshire this week have said they are devastated. john hunt and his daughter amy issued a statement after the murders of 61 year old carol hunt and her two daughters, 25 year old louise and hannah, who's 28, who were attacked at their home in bushey. it comes as a 26 year old man has now been arrested on suspicion of the murders . an suspicion of the murders. an israeli airstrike has targeted the mastermind behind the 7th of october attack. that's according to a security official. the health ministry in gaza says at least 71 palestinians have been killed in a strike on a designated humanitarian area. but israeli officials say the

strike targeted the head of hamas's military wing in an open area where there were only hamas terrorists and no civilians . in terrorists and no civilians. in the us, president joe biden has confirmed he is going to stay as a democratic candidate for the upcoming election. it comes as top democratic donors have threatened to withhold around £70 million of campaign funds if joe biden isn't replaced as candidate, after more blunders at the nato summit. speaking at at the nato summit. speaking at a campaign rally in detroit, biden told his supporters that not only will he run, but he will also win the presidency . will also win the presidency. once again. you probably noticed there's a lot of speculation lately . lately. >> what's joe biden going to do? is he going to stay in the race? he's going to drop out. here's mine , i am running and we're mine, i am running and we're going to win . going to win. >> i'm not going to change that . >> i'm not going to change that. >> i'm not going to change that. >> but professor of us politics, scott lucas has told gb news most democrats want biden to step down. >> some democrat donors have

already said they will not provide money to the campaign, until the situation is resolved. in other words, until biden, steps down, you've mentioned those that have now said that they are planning to do so, but they are planning to do so, but the democrats are already losing some funds. i think what you're going to see this weekend is, you know, there's going to be a review by those high up in the democratic party where they are in the financial situation. they're going to review the polling, which actually shows that biden and trump are still running neck to neck , but that a running neck to neck, but that a majority of democrats do want biden to step aside. and they're going to look at biden's performance . performance. >> alec baldwin's manslaughter case has been dismissed by a judge nearly three years on from the death of halyna hutchins on the death of halyna hutchins on the set of the western film rust in new mexico . the in new mexico. the cinematographer halyna was shot with a revolver that mr baldwin was using in rehearsals. in 2021, the trial collapsed three days into baldwin's trial in santa fe. it is the second time

the case against the actor has been dismissed, and he will not been dismissed, and he will not be tried again. the us actor broke down in tears as the judge dismissed the involuntary manslaughter case against him. >> the sanction of dismissal is the only warranted remedy the jury the only warranted remedy the jury has been sworn, jeopardy has attached and a mistrial would not be based upon manifest necessity. further, the sanction of dismissal is warranted in this case. >> in other news, england manager gareth southgate has admitted he wants england to win so much on sunday. it hurts as they face spain in the euros 2024 showdown. they reached the tournament's final for the second time in a row after being beaten by italy on penalties at wembley in 2021. ahead of tomorrow's match, the king has asked the england squad to alleviate the blood pressure of the nation by avoiding any late drama in the final , and the drama in the final, and the princess of wales will attend the wimbledon men's singles final tomorrow and present the trophy. it will be her second pubuc trophy. it will be her second public appearance since her

cancer diagnosis was announced earlier this year , after she earlier this year, after she attended trooping the colour last month . princess catherine last month. princess catherine has been a patron of the all england lawn tennis and croquet club since 2016. those are the latest news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, sophia. now let's get straight into today's story, shall we? the government has said some violent criminals will be released from prison early in an attempt to tackle overcrowding. justice secretary shabana mahmood has announced a scheme to release thousands of prisoners early, to avoid a total breakdown of law and order. this comes as former

home secretary suella braverman said labour is putting the pubuc said labour is putting the public at risk with this new scheme. excuse me. joining me now is a former police officer and border security expert, henry bolton obe. henry, we've got a lot of very concerned. excuse me , viewers, on this excuse me, viewers, on this subject, what do you make of what we've heard so far? >> well , sadly, what we've heard so far? >> well, sadly, i don't what we've heard so far? >> well , sadly, i don't know >> well, sadly, i don't know that the labour government has any choice, there is a crisis in our prison system. a crisis of overcrowding. it's a crisis that we've long known about. but, the previous government did nothing about or virtually nothing about, that said, the people who are going to be released, i understand it's going to be about 4000 per year. who will be released early, the and that's to alleviate the space problem in the prisons. that has to be done because otherwise courts aren't going to be able to incarcerate people that they find guilty because there will

be no space in the prisons to jail them , because the previous jail them, because the previous government, going all the way back to david cameron, failed to build the prisons and the create the space that was required. so these 4000 people are people who would anyway be released after 50% of their time in prison. so if they're jailed for two years, they'd be they'd be released after after half of that, after one year. this is a reduction to 40. so it's from 50% of their time down to 40. so it's not a massive difference. but the concern here is that there is no plan that i can see that is designed to address the space problem . and we do have problem. and we do have a justice minister who, although she's in a tight spot at the moment and has to respond in this way, actually has expressed the belief that we shouldn't have so many people in prisons anyway. and now, of course, all of this makes the streets less

safe. but again, a crisis in our prison system that prevents the courts from jailing or sentencing people to incarceration is also a massive problem. so money and time and effort needs to be invested in the prison service immediately. not next year, not next month . not next year, not next month. >> now, henry, this is quite clearly a sticking plaster that a problem has been going on for a problem has been going on for a long time and won't be solved overnight. many, many viewers and listeners are saying this is andrew, for example, andrew howlett saying so the way to achieve less crime is to let thousands of reoffenders back onto the streets . how about onto the streets. how about sending some of the 10,000 foreign criminals home that would leave plenty of spare places, lots of people are echoing that sentiment. what do you make to that ? you make to that? >> me too. i mean, we're talking about 4000 or so early releases, we've got about 10,000, 10 to 12,000. i don't know the precise figure of foreign offenders. foreign nationals who are citizens of other countries who

are presently in our prisons. and i don't see that it's rocket science for a government with the majority that the labour government, the labour party, has at the moment to pass emergency legislation enabling precisely that. that's another way of dealing with this. and as i say, i'm a little bit suspicious because we have got a justice minister now, shabana mahmood, who has stated quite clearly that she wants to see fewer people being sent to prison. so, you know , i'm a bit prison. so, you know, i'm a bit suspicious about this. i want to see those spaces increase. and i do want to see foreign nationals deported. of course, i do. why are they here? you know, we've given them a visa and the right to remain in the united kingdom. they come here, they break the break the law. they commit a crime for which they are incarcerated. no, send them away. and if we need to release people early, don't wait for their time in jail to finish. get rid of them. now. i agree, henry bolton. >> very, very strong words indeed.thank >> very, very strong words indeed. thank you very much for joining us. this afternoon. now let's see what my panel make of

this. this hour, i'm joined by a political commentator, jonathan lewis , and gb news, host of the lewis, and gb news, host of the saturday five. darren grimes. thank you very much for joining me, jonathan. and jonathan, you will have to give us a twirl at one point because you won't believe the trousers he's wearing. people. now, back to the prison story. it's a story that's not going away. lots and lots of people are. frankly, they're worried. jonathan they're worried that this is going to make the streets more dangerous for people. >> well, i think the first thing to say is that the most violent offenders will not be released under this scheme . under this scheme. >> initially, they said there would be no violent offenders. and now we're told that's not the case. >> as i understand it, it's if you have been charged or convicted of violent offence that merited a sentence of less than four years, then that would make you eligible for release . make you eligible for release. so not the most not murderers. in other words, the most serious violent offences and also domestic abusers for example, would not be eligible for obvious reasons. and so obviously it's not in anyone's interest, let alone the labour government's, to release people

who who present a clear and present danger to the public, because that will blow up in the face pretty quickly. but i think that what is really interesting about this debate, dawn, is that about this debate, dawn, is that a lot of conservatives are coming out and saying this inevitable, including suella braverman suella braverman . braverman suella braverman. she's she's condemned it, but she's basically laying the blame of the conservatives rightly. i mean, labour has not created a problem in one week, not even its most strident critic conservative policy as well. the conservatives did not build jails. if you if you have a policy of law and order which requires people to be incarcerated, then you need to have we have had three, three prisons built fairly recently, but obviously not enough. there's not, but there's also, and also the conservatives did release 10,000 people under this kind of scheme anyway. so it's not new. this is not new. but there is a need. and i think this is important and probably a dividing line between the parties as well. there is a need to have a debate about how many people we do in prison, what the purpose of prison is. you know , purpose of prison is. you know, i've heard people, experts commenting, saying that we've gone from, you know, sort of greenhouses for rehabilitation

to warehouses, warehouses for offenders, where people are released at the end of their sentence or halfway through their sentence or whenever it may be. and they haven't had any support in that time. what's the point of it? it's not just do gooding virtue signalling. it's to prevent is to prevent re—offending, which is in everyone's interest because we all want the streets to be safer and you can't keep people in prison forever. even if you wanted to. you can, for the reasons that we've just been heanng reasons that we've just been hearing about, because it isn't a space for them. >> what do you make to this one, darren? and we keep hearing either build more prisons and be tough on crime, tough on criminals, or be more understanding, more community help for people that are committing crimes. >> well, i mean, the point there that henry made about miss mahmood, the justice secretary and the prisons minister, mr timpson, are both of the view and this is according to the spectator magazine, that the dutch model is one to replicate. now, the dutch led out about, what, 40% of offenders now , i what, 40% of offenders now, i imagine there are an awful lot of british people. dawn watching

your program right now who are saying, well, hang on a minute. i don't remember that being in the labour party's manifesto, that they would let out 40% of prisoners. >> to be fair, it wasn't mentioned and i think they'll be quite surprised to learn that i worry about this because we already have a sort of san francisco ization of crime in britain, where we're having to we're seeing stores basically saying we're going to lock products up behind these sort of plastic doors that people can't access without a supervisor, where seeing that people just do not fear the repercussions of prison or anything like that, because the police simply don't investigate in some cases for certain crimes. >> so i think actually the deterrent effect of prison will simply wear off with these people and they'll be even more, well , fearless of the well, fearless of the repercussions that we should in a if a government actually says, which blair did back in the day,

that , you know, labour which blair did back in the day, that, you know, labour is going to be tough on crime and the causes on crime. well right now it's going dutch. and that means not being tough on crime and actually letting the prisoners out. i think it's a sign of weakness already one week in, i think one thing you can say about keir starmer is that he is you know, to the chagrin of much of the left, actually, he is tough on on law and order. >> i mean, he's the former director of public prosecutions, for heaven's sake. so i think thatis for heaven's sake. so i think that is one area where he is not going to be a soft touch in any way. i think it's really interesting that he's appointed james timpson as prisons minister, because this is someone who really does put great truck in, rehabilitation and what happens in but does that work? not just, well , that work? not just, well, obviously you have to look at the data and the evidence. >> yeah. where is the evidence that suggests it does work. >> what we see at the moment, darren, is that a lot of people are coming out as we know, and going straight back into their old ways because they haven't had the support they need because they're staying in, victorian prisons that were designed for one person to sell them and have two people in a

cell. there's no there aren't enough prison probation officers around. when they get out. there aren't enough prison officers in prison at the time to help them with that rehabilitation. there aren't the skills that they need to kind of actually educate themselves and equip themselves to workforce. all of these problems that we have, even if you don't think that we should, you don't think that we should, you know, prisoners should have any rights. it's in everyone's interest. the prisoners should have the ability to, sort of go into society because that makes streets safer for everyone. >> if there was evidence that rehabilitation across the piece worked magnificently, i would say absolutely. bring it on. let's give them all kinds of lessons that you want to . in lessons that you want to. in certain cases, it sounds better than most educations that kids are getting in this country today. with the size of class sizes and mass migration and all the rest of it to this country. but actually, i don't think there is that evidence that this rehabilitation idea does work. i think . rehabilitation idea does work. i think. timpson, rehabilitation idea does work. i think . timpson, frankly, whilst think. timpson, frankly, whilst it's laudable to give former convicts jobs and opportunities outside of prison if they are genuinely looking to change their lives, no one. i think we're all forgiven for giving sinners in this world, but i

don't for a second think that this sort of namby pamby liberalism where we say to people, let's make prisons a better deal than a lot of people have in this country , is going have in this country, is going to fly with the british people namby pamby at all. >> no one's no one's saying that they get television. >> they get three square meals a day . a lot of people are struggling. >> what are we trying to achieve? i mean, television, i mean, most people in britain have access to a television , and have access to a television, and yet most people haven't committed a crime. what are you seriously suggesting? that prisoners should be sort of forced into solitary confinement without any books? >> i think prison should be tough or anything. >> that is. how is that going to help people driving people into sort of catatonia is not going to assist their life chance when they get released from prison. well i don't think, though, it's helping people if poor doris down the street gets mugged as soon as someone gets out of prison because we're saying. >> but there is no evidence that, that you can give them books and they sit there and read till their heart's content and come out after reading dickens, and suddenly, you know,

they're not going to go out and do the same thing that they've just done to end up in prison in the first place is one of the keys to rehabilitation. well right. so where is the data then? that prisoners who have gone through these steps, because there have been programs like this throughout the world where actually liberals have said, right, let's put in this program of rehabilitation, give prisoners education, and they transform their lives. some people are frankly beyond rehabilitation. i think we should focus on the people here and now who are on our streets, who are struggling. i don't think we should be focusing on people that go out there and get up to all kinds of things, whether that be knife crime or whatever else. >> you're saying that people should just be sort of kept in detention forever, even if they haven't committed sentences that would merit a whole life time? >> well, i certainly don't think we should be letting them out early, obviously, but with people. but that's what we're doing. >> that's our early for a long time. and there aren't the space in prisons that's goes back to the beginning of this conversation. we need to address the problems that we have right now. how do we make the streets safe for everyone, and how do we

give people a second chance? it's the two are not mutually exclusive. no. >> and indeed, and if people genuinely show that they aren't going to go out there and do that again. but i'm afraid that you said it yourself, the data suggests that people do reoffend as soon as they're out. >> yeah, because, because because the prisons are understaffed. because the government has deprived, has has chronically underfunded the judicial system and the prison system. and there are and probation as well. so multiple mistakes are made. we know about the, the cases of people, sort of being murdered and attacked by people who should not have been out on the streets, who weren't being given, being given adequate supervision. i mean, that's not a that's not a, you know, a in disgust and clearly, there are mistakes being made because the last government took its eye off the ball. so the question now is what do we do now? we have the problem. how do we actually fix it a lot? >> yeah, there are i think everyone will agree. there are all sorts of problems. how you fix it is another matter, but lots of people are saying on here it's all very well talking about the health and care of the people that have done the crime.

what about the people that are the victims of the crime? we don't seem to be talking about them too much. not just us, but everybody out there. right? for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more, please do go to our website, which is gb news.com. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday and there's loads more coming up on today's show , can coming up on today's show, can the three lions make history and beat spain tomorrow night and be crowned european champions? all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel don't get far

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farage mp. >> only on gb news. britain's news channel . news channel. >> hello. welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. now gareth southgate says his team are ready to make history after reaching the finals of euro 2020. for a little game going on tomorrow night, you might have heard about it. it was a stunning stoppage time goal from substitute ollie watkins that got us here in that victory over the netherlands two one. remember, golf is like a lifetime ago already . now the lifetime ago already. now the three lions will now face spain tomorrow night with the hope of being crowned european champions. now we actually have a very lucky jack carson who is out in berlin for us. enjoying himself in the sunshine. and it is sunny in berlin. jack, how's it going out there? how's the atmosphere going ? atmosphere going? >> well done. we have found the

engush >> well done. we have found the english fans. here we are at the kilkenny irish pub, in, in berlin , of course. still joined berlin, of course. still joined with chris skudder. who's with me ? you're, of course, a west me? you're, of course, a west ham fan. dawn. you'll see. you'll see the flag with the three bobbies. bobby moore, of course, being one of them. i mean, chris, you know, england fans know about the history, of course, of england. bobby moore lifting the jules rimet of course, back in 66. more history to be done. surely this weekend. >> three bobbies. there it is. bobby moore, bobby charlton , bobby moore, bobby charlton, bobby moore, bobby charlton, bobby robson. no, none of them with us any longer. and you'd wonder i've met and interviewed all three of those great guys and how would they feel? i think as england try to win that first trophy since 1966. wonderful men all. and, the england fans gathering here, it's going to get, i think pretty messy here later on in terms of the amount of beer drunk. it's a terrific atmosphere. fans travelling, all arriving all the time, from various parts of germany . but various parts of germany. but yeah, we're all keeping our fingers crossed that it's going to be a weekend police of

celebration. let's see. >> you can feel the anticipation. i mean, just look here, you know, we've got the flags, going up. and just how are these england fans feeling? we've been speaking to a few out in berlin earlier today. >> we've waited a long time. obviously, we got to the final last time, but this time i think we're just we're more prepared. >> i think even though we've been poor up to this stage, apart from one half that we play really well in and i just think they know what it's about now, and i think they'll be okay. >> i'll put you to a score prediction. >> yeah, i think it'll be two one england. i'm going three one england. >> i feel like mane . england. >> i feel like mane. he's england. >> i feel like mane . he's got >> i feel like mane. he's got a really big part to play still, >> he's been exceptional i think the way he's driven us forward and yeah, he's got a lot more to come i think. >> and it'll be. >> and it'll be. >> yeah, hopefully a stand out performer tomorrow. >> can i put you to a score prediction three one england. you won england . okay. how are you won england. okay. how are you feeling mate? >> yeah not too bad. a bit jaded. only got in this morning, but. yeah looking forward to it. you know. and that's going to build today. >> why did you decide to

actually come to the final then? >> well, wednesday really, we're at home in the uk, watching the holland game and making plans throughout the game. and as soon as that whistle went, we were straight on booking flights. >> so, i mean, that must have been a thing because ollie watkins only scored as it went 90 minutes. so that must have been you know. yeah that that feeling. >> we've done our research. we were ready to go. but what a goal were ready to go. but what a goal. i mean one for the ages. that one. absolutely. always remember that. >> yeah. well you can just kind of hear can't you. just in the voices there that, you know, there's just this kind of anticipation, this excitement, and you can just see the fans here looking relaxed probably at the moment , here looking relaxed probably at the moment, probably going to be a little bit nervous come closer to kick off. i mean chris, you know it's not only of course on the pitch, off the pitch , it's the pitch, off the pitch, it's going to be a bit of a star studded crowd, isn't it? >> i think we reckon about 50,000 england fans here, 20,000 of those will be in the fan zones, not at the game. the rest will be inside cheering on the boys. and do you know what? we've got a message from the fa president, prince william. the

princess and prince of wales. this is the tweet from them today. we are so proud of you all. england just one last push, he says. to finish the job, go out there and show the world what you're made of. we believe we certainly do. so do these guys here and we're all hoping it's coming home tomorrow. >> this is it. chance for history to be made once again in berlin. can england do it? can it come home dawn? fingers crossed. like i'm going to jinx it if i say so. >> but i'm enjoying the bobby west ham flag, so thank you for that. west ham flag, so thank you for that . jack carson in berlin. that. jack carson in berlin. thank you very much. and now i think is the time you can climb on someone's shoulders like you did the other day. i can never unsee that. jack carson thank you very much. joining us live in berlin, now we are going to talk to reporter anna riley, who has been with some youngsters who are getting inspired by england's some of the very young footballers we have playing for us this tournament. anna, what have you been up to? >> good afternoon don. i'm here in hull. i've been at the pelican park community trust.

it's a sports venue and a charity for all ages. but this morning it was all about the football. a lot of youngsters, from tiny little tots to four year olds, all the way up to 14 year olds, all the way up to 14 year olds, all the way up to 14 year olds coming to here play the game and speaking to them . the game and speaking to them. they are absolutely ecstatic about england being in the finals against spain tomorrow. football fever is truly in the air and they've said how watching england in the euros has truly inspired their game and speaking to coaches and staff as well from the community trust, they've said they've had a real uptake in numbers of young people wanting to come along and play football, and they think that's been inspired by the euros as well. let's take a listen to what some of the children told me earlier. >> i think, they're going to be speaking to one, so it's going to be quite a tight game. jamal

is a really , really talented is a really, really talented young lad. he's really, really good. so i think he's going to pose some like really difficult like situations for us. but i think we can get there if we try our hardest. it's been a while since we've won the euros and it would just be like really exciting that we can beat spain. i feel it's going to be hard, but i think we're going to it's coming home. it's coming home. >> you . >> you. >> you. >> so they say it's coming home. could it be coming home? dawn well, fingers crossed for england tomorrow in that match. but certainly so much inspiration for young people here getting into football, getting into sports and also looking up to these football players as role models as well. so fingers crossed for tomorrow. it's coming home. >> exactly. thank you so much, anna riley . with some lovely anna riley. with some lovely youngsters there who are inspired by some of our very young players. and obviously spain's youngest player is only 17 himself now we are going to i

think we have a another reporter in a pub . this is will hollis. in a pub. this is will hollis. this time will really go above and beyond for your job today in and beyond for your job today in a pub in cambridgeshire talking to england fans, what's it like where you are? >> dawn? well, there are only three places that you can watch the euros by heading over to berlin, sitting at home in a stuffing, living room or coming out to the local pub. and we know that pubs like the swan here in mansfield have had a massive boost because of the euros, 1200 people have been fitting into their car park to watch it on a giant projector, and we know that these fan zones have been influential around the country in putting money behind the bar. £120 million is what's expected to be pumped into the uk hospitality industry. just from this final alone. so lots of people coming out to places like this to spend a little bit of the money that they were

saving. but big games mean big, expensive bills behind the bar, so lots of money is being put into the industry . and i know into the industry. and i know that that's going to be something that's really appreciated for places, pubs where it's been a desperate few years. so, right now people are having a quiet drink, we'll say, but they are wearing their england shirts already. the flags are up as you can probably tell, behind me and england really have to finish the job now. a 500 miles away in berlin . now. a 500 miles away in berlin. >> no pressure at all, will hollis, thank you very much for joining us there. live from a pub. i remember doing those jobs. they were always the most fun, weren't they, well, thank you very much. and indeed, it's a 2.4 billion boost for the uk economy. and that's win or lose. i think we're just going to hit the booze, right now, let's see what my panel make of this one. i mean, jonathan and darren. who wants to go? darren, you're a big football fan, aren't you, i am looking forward to it. i'm going to be. >> do you know what i, i'm quite angry with gareth southgate, and i'm angry because he's given me

such hope and optimism again , i such hope and optimism again, i started off by being very critical, by saying, why did we not get rid of southgate ages ago?i not get rid of southgate ages ago? i think this, this tournament, entire tournament has been a complete disaster. and after watching the game on thursday, i thought , oh no, thursday, i thought, oh no, there's that hope, there's that optimism. >> that's the killer, isn't it? >> that's the killer, isn't it? >> it's the hope that gets you. it really, really is. i mean, you're a west ham fan. i'm a newcastle united fan. we know a thing or two about hope. and i really do feel that hope, though , really do feel that hope, though, dawn. but i'm just trying to keep my, sort of rose tinted glasses at bay , and all we can glasses at bay, and all we can do is hope for the best, ultimately realistic. >> jonathan, are you looking forward to it? >> absolutely, and i had the best encounter during the semi—final because i was at the killers concert at the o2. killers concert at the 02. >> oh, yes. oh, god, that sounded amazing. >> yeah, and they just interrupted the concert and played the final few minutes , played the final few minutes, and there was just sort of a sense of. you could hear them

murmuring in the crowd. yeah. and then the final whistle blew and the whole crowd erupted in the red and white confetti kind of burst out. it couldn't have been better. yeah. and then they segwayed immediately into mr brightside. so 20,000 people going absolutely bonkers. so that was incredible. so i think the only thing that could possibly match that would be england and obviously england winning in the most ludicrous dramatic way possible. so like sort of equalising , in sort of sort of equalising, in sort of like the 91st minute and then scoring again at that time, i think the very last seconds would be good for me, because otherwise you just can't cope, can you? >> i'm with the king on this. we need to keep the country's blood pressure, you know, at a at a sort of go to penalties. oh, no. >> now we've got great young players. we can take penalties. >> no. >> no. >> so not yeah. fair enough. we've we've won. >> we've let's not jinx it by saying that dawn you feel just by being slightly positive the jinxing it. >> however the women have done it . so i don't understand why it. so i don't understand why the men can't follow suit . so the men can't follow suit. so all over to you boys. no pressure, right. well, i'm dawn

neesom this is gb news saturday, and there's lots more coming up on today's show, now, talking of festivals and music, as jonathan was just now, we are asking, is festival costumes or are festival costumes or are festival costumes or are festival costumes cultural appropriation? but first, let's get the news headlines with sophia . sophia. >> dawn. thank you. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headunes wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines just after 230. a 34 year old man has now been arrested in connection with the investigation into human remains found in two suitcases near clifton suspension bridge. armed police detained the man at bristol temple meads station and he'll be taken to london for questioning. there had been a manhunt in the wake of the discovery of body parts, but police are now not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident . investigators the incident. investigators believe the remains, found at an address in shepherd's bush are unked address in shepherd's bush are linked to those found in two

suitcases in bristol on wednesday. the family of three women who were killed in a crossbow attack in hertfordshire this week say they're devastated. john hunt and his daughter amy issued a statement after the murders of 61 year old carol hunt and her two daughters, 25 year old louise and hannah, who's 28, who were all attacked at their home in bushey. it comes as a 26 year old man has now been arrested on suspicion of the murders . an suspicion of the murders. an israeli airstrike has targeted the mastermind behind the 7th of october attack. that's to according a security official. the health ministry in gaza says at least 71 palestinians have been killed in the strike on a designated humanitarian area, but an israeli official said the strike targeted the head of hamas's military wing in an open area where there were only hamas terrorists and no civilians , and terrorists and no civilians, and the prince of wales has said he is so proud of england ahead of

the euros. 2024 final against spain tomorrow , they've reached spain tomorrow, they've reached the tournament's final for the second time in a row after being beaten by italy on penalties at wembley in 2021. ahead of tomorrow's match, prince william added go out there and show the world what you're made of . we world what you're made of. we believe those are the gb news headunes believe those are the gb news headlines for now. i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, sophia. now there's loads more coming up on today's show. but before i tell you what we've got lined up for you, nana is here to tell us what is on her show coming up soon. nana. well, we have a round table discussion of all the first week of the labour government. what do we think of

it? you had rachel reeves at the beginning of it, talking about yimbys? yes, in my backyard. and by the end of it we realised that a lot of them were actually nimbys. so we're going to be talking about all of that kind of stuff too. so we're looking going to have a good look at labour's first week, main first week in office. plus i've got some these three girls that go by the name of charlie's angels and they are actually private investigators . so for my 5:00 investigators. so for my 5:00 guest, we're going to find out, what how that works. and some of their most notorious cases. plus i'm asking is joe biden, is he really fit for office? >> i mean, we saw the last things that happened there. is he a risk to global security now, after he mistook vladimir putin zelenskyy that awful, mess up and all the other stuff that's gone on just over the last few days. you know, all that kind of stuff and loads more. so stay tuned . it's going more. so stay tuned. it's going to be a very busy show. i've got some great guests and, hopefully we can keep you entertained until six. >> it always do. now, that sounds like an absolutely cracking show. and nana is on at

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welcome back to gb news. saturday, beth mead dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now, a massive music festival has banned clothing that promotes cultural appropriation . wireless festival appropriation. wireless festival organisers have banned dozens of items from this year's three day eventin items from this year's three day event in finsbury park, which is happening this weekend. started yesterday. indeed. however, a lack of clear guidance has made it unclear whether it will affect popular items such as euros or even ponchos . and,

euros or even ponchos. and, let's face it, rain ponchos in the great british summer are quite necessary, aren't they, let's see what my panel maker. who wants it, who's getting down with the kids and going to festivals these days? jonathan, you've got the trousers on. let's come to you. >> glastonbury, two weeks ago. i'm going to hyde park after this. >> did you wear a poncho? >> did you wear a poncho? >> no. we had we had good weather, actually. it was. it was lucky. >> yeah. you were the one place in the country that had good weather then, by the way. but, i mean, this is just a bit the fun place, isn't it? >> yeah. i think that i may actually be in the rare position of being in agreement with most of being in agreement with most of your viewers on this particular one, in the sense that very odd. >> jonathan. >> jonathan. >> well, they normally they normally don't agree with me. so that's exciting. that's anything controversial, but in general , that's exciting. that's anything controversial, but in general, i don't really like banning things. i think that unless you are turning up, wearing overtly racist, sexist , are turning up, wearing overtly racist, sexist, homophobic clothing, unless you are , clothing, unless you are, obviously committing gross offence to people if you are

wearing costumes in a way that is designed to provoke people to not be friendly or, to kind of have fun or to pay tribute, but to kind of mock people, you know, in a way, like blackface, for example, that i would suggest would not be appropriate. what about dreadlocks ? dreadlocks? >> that's often the one that people come down with that white people come down with that white people can't have dreadlocks. >> i think that look, let's just separate the two things out. i think that we have to separate out the banning things, which i don't think is appropriate, and it's something a good idea . it's something a good idea. often you will go to an event like this and you'll see someone who's looking like a pillock and you will laugh about them with your friends. and that's the end to it, because people have a right to be pillocks. and also, of course, people have the right to, to, to wear things that other people may find offensive. but as always, it's a case by case basis. and at what point is something crossed the line? dreadlocks. look i'm not it's a very, very complicated issue. i'm obviously not a black person myself. i think i know that there are a lot of black people

who have very, very strong views about this, and there are other people who take the view that, you know, if you have something in your culture and other people want to kind of, experiment with it and do it themselves and that, that that's something that they, they see as something that could almost be a tribute or something that can become universal. it's very much a personal thing, and it's something that i did a lot of studying about, actually, because i did a master's degree in social sciences, and a lot of this kind of stuff. so i kind of thought a lot about this over the years. and it's a really, really complicated issue because you have a long history of obviously mocking cultures and kind of asserting kind of supremacy over different cultures and also of kind of cultures, so interacting with each other and sort of percolating cross—fertilising and sort of becoming different things. i think a lot of people, are for example, of in religions would find offensive if other people take religious items that have , quote, specific sacred have, quote, specific sacred valley and use them as kind of cultural accoutrements or fashion accessories . so i think

fashion accessories. so i think they should be banned. that's a separate issue. >> well, the crucifix is almost a fashion statement now. people wear crosses and crucifixes as a fashion item. there's a whole trend going on on social media. and justin welby did actually complain about that. it's like it's a religious thing. you shouldn't just be wearing it because you think it's a nice pattern. >> i don't think people, i mean, are people wearing crucifixes who aren't actually christians. >> i haven't evidently it was a trend going on that there tiktok, which you're familiar with probably. what do you make of this one? zara? >> look, i think the whole thing is sort of symptomatic, really, of a culture and a society that has just gone way off its rocker. i think, like there are more important things that we should be focusing on as a society, as we've got serious issues in this country. society, as we've got serious issues in this country . frankly, issues in this country. frankly, i don't think we've got time to be worrying about whether or not someone's wearing a sombrero. i think if you were to poll people in wherever around the world who might be familiar with a sombrero, whether or not actually they're offended by a couple of people at wireless festival wearing one, if that's really ruined their day, i

imagine the answer would be an emphatic no, and they'd be asking you what wireless festival is and why they should give a rat's bottom. so i find the whole thing ludicrous. i think, on those points about, you know, whether i remember there was this whole furore when justin bieber had, dreadlocks done and there were calling him all kinds of things and all kinds of racist and all these other words . well, you know, if other words. well, you know, if i if i saw a black woman who had keratin treatment to straighten her hair, i wouldn't say what a racist thing to do. i just feel that there is this one. there's a massive double standard. but also i just don't think these things are racist. i was brought up. don't i don't know about you with the line, imitation is the greatest form of flattery. i don't think it is an overtly racist act to do something that is, i guess, stereotypical or the norm with a certain group of people, unless you are doing it to. i don't know, do a little

britain sketch. >> that's exactly what i was just saying, that it really depends on your intention while you're doing it. i think that as with all these things, it's you have a reasonable person test. would a reasonable person think , would a reasonable person think, that this was, grossly offensive, that was designed to harass or provoke or intimidate people, you know, at these festivals it tends to be a kind of a younger, progressive crowd that seems unlikely in the main. are there some people who might be offended? again that's a case by case basis. should those views be taken into consideration ? yes, of course. i consideration? yes, of course. i think there is a difference between, you know, as i was saying, sort of religious artefacts to being appropriate in the way that a lot of christians would be offended by crucifixes being used by people who aren't christians. >> well, hang on, because this isn't i mean, dawn, you you are a big music fan. how many times have you seen rockers and all the rest of it with crucifixes and sort of cosplay? non christianity, right? of course it's offensive to some christians, but of course we shouldn't ban it. >> you know these things and unfortunately i'm going to have to ban you both talking. sorry, because we've run out of time on

that one, could have talked about the all time. all right. i'm dawn neesom gb news saturday and there's lots more coming up on today's show as we talk , on today's show as we talk, kate's wimbledon return, all of that and much coming up. this is gb news, britain's

it's showbiz time. and joining me now is commentator daniel mason to tell us all about what's really happening. the biggest celebrity thing for me is kate being back at wimbledon. yes. so yeah. so it got announced today that kate is going to be at wimbledon tomorrow, which will be one of her first outings. i know that she went to the trooping colour event, but she's been out of the media everywhere for the last five months, so whoever wins the men's finals tomorrow, we've got novak djokovic and carlos alcaraz very hard names to pronounce. tell me about it.

yeah, so she will be giving one of them the winner's trophy for the men's singles. so we look forward to seeing her again, >> a couple of other people have been at wimbledon this week margot robbie, sienna miller and margot robbie, sienna miller and margot robbie. >> she's pregnant. yeah. she's pregnant. barbie is pregnant. that happened. i didn't think ken had any. oh, don't go there . ken had any. oh, don't go there. yeah. so yeah. >> so they've been there. and pippa middleton as well yesterday was there. so it's great to have princess catherine back. >> no it's good. it could be a feel good factor day. we've got kate back at wimbledon, which is feel good. and hopefully england will win the little football tournament going on tomorrow night. yes, but there's also developments on strictly come dancing. yes. >> so there seems to be so much scandal going on at the moment with strictly, we've got one of the pro dancers has been sacked, which the bbc have confirmed . which the bbc have confirmed. graziano di prima. did i pronounce that right ? pronounce that right? >> you very probably did. i've got no idea who actually is, but i mean, what's he been sacked for?

>> so he started the show back in 2018. and there's been reports from zara. zara mcdermott that, there's been some sort of misconduct going on. another one? yeah another one, because we also had giovanni pernice , who's had giovanni pernice, who's had complaints about him from amanda abbington and laura whitmore, which is still going on with their legal teams at the moment, which he says he can't wait for be to be over. but i mean , be to be over. but i mean, graziano, unfortunately , daniel graziano, unfortunately, daniel will run out of time. >> okay. i know so quick. i've been dawn neesom been gb news saturday. i'm back tomorrow. but first of all, let's get the weather with jonathan vautrey. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar. sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good afternoon. this is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the search for summer really is on hold at the moment

for many of us. disappointing conditions this weekend. high pressure is tantalisingly close out towards the west, but it is this low pressure in the north sea that is driving conditions for a good chunk of us today, particularly down the eastern side. very cloudy with continuing outbreaks of rain and drizzle this afternoon. persistently turning heavy even to this evening and overnight for parts of the scottish borders. northumberland down into north—east yorkshire as well. do watch out for that. the skies will be clearing a touch more for southern areas of england and wales. have you missed some fog patches here overnight and maybe single figures for some rural spots , figures for some rural spots, but underneath the cloud elsewhere, temperatures will be holding up in double digits for most of us. but actually, with these clearer skies in the south, it does mean that we'll start off sunday on a better note, a decent amount of sunshine first thing for these southern districts. the mist and fog will clear quite readily once the sun rises as well , so once the sun rises as well, so not too bad of a start if you're heading out early on a few bright spells for northern ireland as well. still a lot of cloud though for central northern areas of england with that drizzly outbreaks of rain central and western areas of scotland actually not faring too badly. but again in the north

and the east, a lot of cloud coming in with that brisk north easterly flow down in from the nonh easterly flow down in from the north sea. this rain will turn lighter as we head throughout the day, so generally turning a bit more patchy, but still very dull and dreary for much of southern scotland into northern england throughout sunday. a few showers possible elsewhere, but really holding on to a few brighter spots also. and in that brightness as well, temperatures a little up compared to where we have been today, around 20 to 23 c for central scotland into parts of the south as well, but still very cool and disappointing in that central area . the rain will ease off as area. the rain will ease off as we head into sunday evening just in time for any outdoor viewing parties for the euros grand final. and as we head into the next week, though, do be prepared for more areas of low pressure rain and showers to start arriving into the rest of the weekend. by >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb

>> well . >> well. >> well. >> hello. good afternoon, and welcome to gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion is mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. will be debating discussing it. at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza. in a few moments time i'll be mocking the week as labour completes their first week in government. former mp nick fletcher will be joining me live in the studio for my political spotlight and we'll be speaking about infighting, tory infighting, for goodness sake, when will they stop then? my difficult conversation guests this week are sam hutchinson and

emma coles. they've taken the