wasn't a tax cutter. and we went into the election saying, don't vote for labour because taxes will go up, spending will get out of control, regulation will go out of control, regulation will 9° up out of control, regulation will go up and immigration will get out of control. but all of those things have gone wrong under the conservatives, for a good number of years . so it was like, vote of years. so it was like, vote for us because it's pretty bad, but it will be even worse under the other lot. the particular point, there was one sentence you pointed to there about mortgage rates. some utter myth seems to have grown up that the truss—kwarteng mini—budget caused a spike in mortgage rates around the world, as this. this could affect anything in the united states of america. mortgage rates were going to go up mortgage rates were going to go up anyway , truss was unfortunate up anyway, truss was unfortunate that that happened exactly on her watch and was able to be badged on her. i've got no doubt, because it's in rishi sunak's interest and indeed keir starmer's that if england lose to spain tomorrow, it will be blamed on liz truss, but she has a good point. the conservatives

didn't run as conservatives. they lost millions of votes off their right flank to reform. i'm not saying that we would have won the election had liz truss persisted in power , but reform persisted in power, but reform were, i think, about 3 or 4% of the vote when she was in office. that's gone up to 14. it's a very useful contribution to what's going to be a painful and lengthy post—mortem for the conservative party. >> so you're suggesting that potentially, if liz truss had survived the market backlash to her doomed mini—budget, that actually the conservatives might have won more seats on the 4th of july, it's almost impossible to imagine it could have been worse, >> i mean , 121 worse, >> i mean ,121 seats is >> i mean, 121 seats is basically the worst result in conservative party history. and i think the real problem was that there was this idea that we were going to get the adults back in the room to stabilise the ship. we got the adults back in the room and they burnt down the building. okay, mark, stay with me if you can, because i

want to bring in my pundits. >> mark, if i can as well, to react to what you've had to say. benedict spence, diana moran and lisa mckenzie. diana. should the tories have stuck with liz truss? >> no, i don't think so. i think it was all too extreme heat . it was all too extreme heat. alongside her was our , candidate alongside her was our, candidate down in, spelthorne, >> kwasi kwarteng, kwasi kwarteng as well? >> no, i think it was to all too extreme. >> okay. i just think that mark's got a point, hasn't he, lisa? it couldn't have been worse than rishi sunak's electoral performance. >> you might not have been worse, but i don't think it would have been much better, to be honest. i think 40 i think people flooding after 14 years, it had enough. that was it. i don't think there was anything it didn't matter whether they went in october or july or whether they'd gone. last year it was the game was up, it whether they'd gone. last year it was the game was up , it is it was the game was up, it is what it is, briefly. >> benedict i mean , we imagine >> benedict i mean, we imagine if you had a time machine and

you give liz truss another year and a half to prove her mettle, where would we be today? i don't think it improves anything. >> i think the really disappointing thing about liz truss is that a lot of the policies were very good, but liz truss was not a good politician. and this, i think, comes back to actually what the root cause of the collapse was, which was that over the last sort of ten years, certainly of the 14 years of governing post coalition, actually, there'd been very bad the conservatives broadly, no matter who it was in charge of actually putting policies in place that people could see changing anything. okay, okay. >> mark, briefly, as you probably know, if you've watched the show and you've certainly been on it, i've been a sunak loyalist and i think he should feel very, gratified by the fact that the uk economy is number one in the g7 at the moment, and that the figures for may of growth were double what the markets were expecting. so he was a good prime minister, wasn't he ? wasn't he? >> oh, mark, i'm afraid that's only remarkable owing to the flatness of the surrounding landscape, the western economies are all badly underperforming. and just to pick up diana's

point about the mini—budget was too extreme. this was the first effort to cut tax over 14 years. we've had extremity on increasing public spending, on adding $1,000 billion to our debt over the course of 14 years of conservative government rishi sunak's a decent bloke, but he's a technocrat. everything was done by spreadsheet . no vision, done by spreadsheet. no vision, i think. no real idea about where he would have wanted to take the country had he been re—elected . and i'm afraid re—elected. and i'm afraid that's what did for him and did for the conservatives so let's not, you know, puff out our chest because we've got something approaching a positive growth rate. we need to do far, far better than that. and on benedict's point, even if liz wasn't the person to do it , it wasn't the person to do it, it wasn't the person to do it, it was the right platform. >> all right, there you go, mark littlewood, always a treat to have you on the show. we'll catch up soon. thank you to my brilliant pundits. you for your company at home and listening on the radio. tomorrow we're bringing football home. see you at nine for mark dolan tonight. headliners is next.

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>> very good evening. headliners is up next. but first, a quick look at the headliners headlines at 11:00. sir keir starmer has praised england's footballers ahead of the euro 2024 final against spain tomorrow, saying they've made the country proud. in a letter to gareth southgate and the team. the prime ministers emphasised their graft and hard work , saying he wishes and hard work, saying he wishes them the very best. well sunday's showdown in berlin marks england's third major final, hoping to join the 1966

world cup heroes in history. despite past criticism, though, and a painful loss to italy in the euros final of 2021, southgate has admitted he wants to win so much it hurts. earlier, the england boss issued a rallying cry to his players on the eve of their showdown. >> i'm not a believer in fairy tales, but i am a believer in dreams and, we've had big dreams. we've felt the need and the importance of that. but then, you know, you have to make those things happen. >> pmqs while we will be watching the match here at home, thousands of fans have already travelled from far and wide to see the action up close in berlin. and earlier we spoke to some of them. >> didn't even get to celebrate the goal as soon as the second one went on the phone straight away, right quick. let's just let's just book. we're from birmingham. we had to get some from london. >> could be a chance of making history tomorrow. i was at the

last final and we never won. i've been travelling following england since 2012 and i just want to see them win something. >> i hope that it does finally come home. we've waited a long time. >> i'm 44 now and hasn't been home in my lifetime, so i hope this time it comes home. >> in the us, president biden's insisting he'll keep fighting in the race to the white house. it comes after two standout mistakes, though, at the nato summit, where he referred to the ukrainian president as president putin and then went on to mix up his own vice president with donald trump. but despite those two mistakes, biden has told his supporters he's not just standing as the democratic candidate, but he'll also win november's election. >> you probably noticed there's a lot of speculation lately. what's joe biden going to do? is he going to stay in the race? is he going to stay in the race? is he going to drop out? here's my answer. i am running and we're going to win. i'm not going to change that here. >> racing commentator john hunt,

>> racing commentatorjohn hunt, whose wife and two daughters were killed in a crossbow attack, says the family's devastation can't be put into words. john and his third daughter, amy, have thanked people for their messages of support since the women were targeted in their own home on tuesday , 61 year old carol hunt tuesday, 61 year old carol hunt and her two daughters, louise and her two daughters, louise and hannah, died from their injuries. it comes as 26 year old man carl clifford has been arrested on suspicion of murder . arrested on suspicion of murder. we've heard tonight that in birmingham, a man has been charged after a haul of gun parts were found hidden in a car being shipped from pakistan border force officers at london gateway port discovered the components, which investigators say could have been used to build or adapt deadly weapons. 39 year old yassir khan was arrested for attempting to import firearms and charged earlier today. he'll appear before birmingham magistrates on monday and finally sport and royal news for you. kensington palace has confirmed that the

princess of wales will attend the men's wimbledon final, while prince william's in berlin to watch england take on spain in the final of euro 2024. princess catherine will present either novak djokovic or carlos alcaraz the trophy on centre court. it will be her second public appearance following her cancer diagnosis , after she made diagnosis, after she made a brief return to the public spotlight last month at trooping the colour . those are the latest the colour. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sam francis, your next update from the newsroom at 10:00. for now, though, it's time for headliners >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners, your first look at tomorrow's papers in the company of three comedians. >> i'm stephen allen tonight, joined by a man who does many

different voices , damian slash different voices, damian slash and a man who hears many different voices. >> it's nick dixon. >> it's nick dixon. >> to be fair, you asked you sit in that seat, which means you're the punchline intro, aren't you? >> i'm happy with that. i hear a lot of voices and they all agree with me. >> any punchlines about the headliners? >> nice. that's good. >> nice. that's good. >> i don't ball chain. no, i would never ball. >> shame. >> shame. >> there was one last time. it's a dangerous game. >> it's a dangerous game for the man over about 40 to be bald shaving. it wasn't you come home to roost or whatever the phrase is. >> the adults are back in the room. let's begin. >> he's doing somewhat already. within seconds. >> i saw the last time you two were on together, you were hosting. it was just like a starmer off. >> it was starmer heavy. >> it was starmer heavy. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> go old school. how are you? ronnie corbett's paul i can only do jordan peterson. >> he can do starmer. is that him? >> i don't know about that. oh, yeah. >> superb. yeah. that's how you do it. >> can't do that one back in the room, right. let's take a look at your front pages. the mail on sunday goes with one last push to finish the job. the i found that funny for some reason, the sunday times truant register to

save covid lost generation. the observer goes with labour's rooftop revolution to deliver solar power for millions. the sunday express . we can do it the sunday express. we can do it the sunday express. we can do it the sunday telegraph miliband accused of risking food supplies. and finally, the daily star roar for the lions. and those were your front pages . those were your front pages. beginning with the observer damian, what they got for us? >> well, the observer has labour's rooftop revolution and they're going to deliver solar power for millions because ed miliband has gone solar crazy. and he's not just going to cover the farmland in solar panels, he's going to cover every single roof in the country with solar panels. now, you know, we don't all hate solar just because it's all hate solarjust because it's terribly inefficient and expensive and mostly made in china. you know, it's cool, solar is cool. but, you know, i think ed's got a little bit carried away with solar this

week. he's been in office for a week. he's been in office for a week. and you know, this this rooftop revolution is, you know, it will not be televised. unless we can actually get some power . we can actually get some power. >> well, we'll still have wind farms, so that'll cheer you right up. we've got on land. wind farms are back in the in the fray now. >> and off coast as well. i mean, hopefully we can get enough concrete and transports fuelled by, you know, traditional methods to deliver these things and get them up. but yeah, you sound sceptical. >> for a differing opinion. nick, what's your take on this ? nick, what's your take on this? >> well, it's a bit similar. i was reading today. >> i mean, this was on, pete north's twitter. that uk solar capacity factor is less than 11% and doesn't work at night. that sounds bad. >> so i was just trying to familiarise myself with. so then he's also done the thing where he's also done the thing where he's tried. he's banned the nonh he's tried. he's banned the north sea oil thing and everyone thinks that's mental might even lead to legal action. >> so my whole question with ed miliband is why bring back a sort of proven loser? >> i'm not saying he's a loser as a person, but he's not a winner for the voters with laboun winner for the voters with labour. and to me, and he's got bonkers ideas, a bit unpopular.

>> it's like bringing back jeremy corbyn as your chancellor. >> i just thought starmer was all about i'm not going to do the accent because you're too good at it. but i thought it was all about sort of tough decisions and being ruthless. >> i think, why do you want ed miliband doing a load of bonkers policies? >> ed balls, solar panels, of course. it's obvious that's not. >> can you? this is going to be great. >> well, i'll just chuck it in there every now and then. >> i suppose there are many keir starmer stories these days. you've joined at the right time, i mean, look, obviously they don't work at night. i suppose that shouldn't come as a shock. and the efficiency might be down at 11. but recent breakthroughs are getting solar panel efficiency up to theoretically, it could go above 30, which is like big news in the world of science. >> well, that'd be that'd be great, wouldn't it? i mean, i hopei great, wouldn't it? i mean, i hope i hope that's possible, but i did some maths and there were 29 million houses in the country. the average solar panel setups cost about four grand. that's just a cheap one from, you know, a very cheap supplier that comes to £116 billion. and ihave that comes to £116 billion. and i have to be replaced every few years as well. so, you know, the magic money tree will, you know , magic money tree will, you know, disperse. and i'm sure we can

start building. >> so i'll be impressed if they get anything built. that's the thing. i mean, starmer was talking to blair and he was last yean talking to blair and he was last year, and he was saying that it takes 13 years for a single onshore wind farm. >> apparently, it's like it's a couple of years to make. >> then it's five years planning and there's some other years in there. >> somehow you listen to the whole thing, the bureaucracy and everything and all the regulations. >> so they're gonna have to get rid of so many regulations to build anything at all. >> well, this is why i don't like it, because it's a it's one of these ideas where the people haven't thought to step two. it's just it sounds good. it feels good. that's just chuck out some solar panels, get britain moving. but what about nuclear would actually be completely green? provide energy for everybody. but for some reason, we can't even talk about that when all of the. you know. >> and nuclear also takes ages because michael gove was saying this thing about fish, you're not allowed to kill the fish. >> so there's all these like, ridiculous because you need for water nuclear. the water sucks in the fish into these vents. so anything you try and do in the country, there's just all sorts of regulations and you have to worry about fish and newts and so on. so on. >> so on. >> in japan, they can whip up a nuclear plant in about four years, or maybe seven if it's a

single digit number. and then they have that one incident, which now means no one's copying the way they do it. >> yeah. and it was an old plant. but anyway, that's that story in a nutshell. >> all right, moving on to the sunday telegraph. nick, what have they got? >> yes. well, they got miliband again, but they've also got truss blame sunak for trashing my record, which i like liz, but thatis my record, which i like liz, but that is quite funny. >> i mean, you know how how much of a record could you really have had in the few days you were there? so that's quite funny. a bit of a liz truss ism, not quite realising how that might sound, but what she means is that tax cuts. i want to be very nice to liz, but i think she's talking about tax cuts. and, you know, the tories, they sort of allowed the idea to go. they went with the idea that tax cuts didn't generate growth and they went with labour's, what she calls labour's false narrative that the global rise in mortgage rates was somehow my fault. >> so she's sort of saying that, you know, sunak sucked up to labour and sort of went against her and with, with his sort of different agenda. >> but the tories all pay for that long term. >> in a few years, people will realise she was right on everything. >> i mean, she could have said that without making it about

her. she could have said like sunak played it wrong in the battle versus labour rather than she. they ruined my legacy of really. i mean, i'm sure if she would have won that election, i reckon he would have changed, you know. oh she's still won the seat. and now we think she did everything great. >> i suspect sunak may have pulled a few strings to, you know, muddy the waters for truss because, i mean, he wanted to be the nominee, didn't he? wanted to be prime minister. and she swooped in and then, you know , swooped in and then, you know, he did pull a few strings, i'm sure. and things collapsed very rapidly. and, you know, all the graphs went down. everything was rugging. and then she came back , rugging. and then she came back, people to tank the pound and ruin the liability driven asset tanking, tanking the pound is child's play. >> sunak tank the ldis to get rid of truss. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> i do feel a bit did that. >> i do feel a bit did that. >> but i'm saying, you know, the idea that he didn't pull any string at all is. >> yeah, well he certainly somehow became the leader despite none of the members voting for him. >> that was quite impressive. >> that was quite impressive. >> and to be fair to liz truss,

you know, it's not as if whatever sunak did worked. so she is in some position to say i was right. >> maybe i was equally wrong. she could also say that, yeah, i'm not i'm not standing up for liz truss anyway. >> but i mean, she may have a point. >> yeah, everyone likes growth and she invented growth. so that's, what's the sunday times going with damian, >> the sunday times is going with truant register to save covid lost generation . so covid lost generation. so labour's first king's speech will include a legal duty on councils to keep track of pupils who aren't going to school because of these lockdowns that everybody pushed for, even though the, you know, originally the covid scientists in charge, not one of whom is now been appointed by keir starmer , you appointed by keir starmer, you know, adviser to the nhs, i believe . well, those lockdowns believe. well, those lockdowns turned out destroyed the minds and, you know, social abilities of an entire generation of young people who are now incapable of conducting themselves in a normal, healthy manner or even going to school. i mean, if you were told not to go to school, you got to break out of the matrix and realise, hang on,

what is school? why am i there? and suddenly you just don't need to go anymore? >> there is no spoon. will this fix it . fix it. >> i suspect nothing will ever be fixed by any policy, by any of the governments in this country. that's. that's what i think i would love to see. i mean, if they fix a single thing , mean, if they fix a single thing, they will be in power for 100 years, >> i sort of feel like you break it. >> you pay for it. you know, technically it wasn't labour that did it, but they wanted famously more lockdowns. so i feel like they're responsible as well. and the whole political class is responsible for all of this. >> and i find it quite amusing if you've been following blair, he's obsessed with artificial intelligence. >> lo and behold. what's the answer to this? it's artificial intelligence will be something we'll be used to coordinate between schools, gps and councils. so he just thinks ai is the answer to everything. children getting back to school i but how how? >> but maybe i lapse of my eye on it every single time. >> maybe it will work. >> maybe it will work. >> he's reached the age where he's. it's like ketchup tech is just like, yeah, no use the internet. like there was a generation of people who just thought that was the thing. yeah, yeah, yeah. no, it's like a well, that's the front pages

done on the way. next, is getting ready an election. has anyone told them

next. welcome back to headliners. i'm stephen allen here with damien slash and nick dixon and damien. the observer. how could labour win in 2029? it'll be hard because they won't just have had a tory government self—immolate. so yes. >> well labour to fight the 2029 election like an insurgent as preparations are already underway . so they're already underway. so they're already trying to figure out how do we win again in five years at 2029. that's insane. and they're kind of they're getting getting in stuck in preparing for it with a bunch of radical ideas that are going to win the public over. but as i said before, all labour really have to do is fix a few potholes and you know, the crowd will love them for it because

everything is so broken. you fix one thing and that's it's five more years. it's perfect . more years. it's perfect. >> i tend to agree with that. >> i tend to agree with that. >> they could actually get a bigger majority and do better, because they only have to be too not rubbish. as jacob rees—mogg was saying, their expectations are actually quite low. >> they're not like it's not the blair mania. so although blair had that sort of buoyancy he didn't have, he had a higher expectations, which starmer doesn't really have. >> so if they're actually just okay and reasonably competent and don't have anything to mental, then they could even do better. >> and there's a sort of blairite steel behind this thinking, like, we need to think about 2029 already. bear in mind the tories are saying it's too soon to start choosing a leader right ? versus we need to be right? versus we need to be ready for 2029. so you see the difference in thinking. so they've got this blair winner mentality. >> starmer has got it. >> starmer has got it. >> you know they've got the mad people in the party. they need to. they're the problem for them. the zara sultanas popping up saying just rubbish they need. but with starmer and blair behind him and thinking like this , they can win again. this, they can win again. >> then you've got the guy who's the political strategist who's

good at planning elections. what else is he going to do now ? he's else is he going to do now? he's got to look at the next one, right. you've got jonathan ashworth who's what's he going to do? he's sitting around doing nothing. so the only people working on this literally have nothing other to fill their time. yeah. yeah. >> this is the this is the problem with our politics as well, is that they spend half their time figuring out how to get re—elected again. everything's about the pursuit and, you know, maintenance of power rather than actually doing the jobs. i mean it does. they have got on with a lot this week, and they they do seem to have achieved rather a lot. the whole machine is, is rumbling up for them immediately. it seemed like nothing could get done before. but now things are actually possible. >> this is like january, when i stopped drinking and go on a diet and i will go to the gym and then january second comes along and you run out of steam. so it could be a bit of that. >> well, it's exactly like that. i was the same with winning the election in 2029. i mean, that is an eternity. i mean, in one week in politics is like five years. so if you do the math, that's like 1300 years. >> that's a long time. >> that's a long time. >> yeah. anything could happen at that time,

>> the sunday telegraph, when the french left, stood down in certain seats to stop their political opponents winning people said it was terrible. who would think of doing such a thing? >> tell us, nick, i see what you've done there. steve it's sunak held secret talks about farage red wall deal, though crucially, not actually with farage. >> they just. there were talks about talks really. so this whole piece about dame andrea jenkyns trying to organise talks for reform candidates to stand down in the red wall. and we know that farage was burnt before standing down. not really getting what they, you know, they didn't keep to their half of the deal. it's a problem with these etonian types, you know, you do a deal with them. it doesn't come through. >> johnson wasn't trustworthy. >> johnson wasn't trustworthy. >> that's kind of what i'm implying. so although i think he's part of this channel. so that's satirical content, very trustworthy satirical content. great guy, great guy. >> really great guy. >> really great guy. >> i'll do it. i'll bring the trump out. if i have to bring the trump out, i'll bring it out. >> that's a better trump. i'm not going to do mine again. what would jordan peterson say? that's what i want to know. well, well. and then anyway, the point is the point is there was a deal, talks of a deal, but it

actually happened. it was andy wigmore and people like this and craig williams. it didn't happen. and one and sunak's aides were basically against it. >> they were against him doing this deal. >> he was what they're saying is he was quite open to it. they're against it. there's even an implication. one of the reasons the election was called so soon was to sort of tackle the farage problem and stop sunak doing any kind of deal with him. i feel like he may have been badly advised reading this, because he did need to tackle the reform issue, and they didn't get ahead of it gone well, i mean, i just read through this and i just thought, this is this is one of the most ridiculous pieces of journalism i've ever seen. >> i mean, i and i'm, you know, i'm not just i'm not just shilling to protect farage here, but i mean, the person who's had this hearsay is dame andrea, right? who's an angry tory who's pissed off with the tory party language. >> timothy . >> timothy. >> timothy. >> oh, i'm angry with the tory party. and she said he was he was she went to speak to this reform guy, who didn't know what it was about. and there she said he was definitely in listening mode, i.e. in the room without headphones on. and then he said

there was a lot to think about after she'd finished this talk, which we all know in english, means i'm absolutely not interested in that whatsoever. yeah. so it's just a complete nothing burger. and i don't know, it's a bit of tittle tattle, it's a bit of thrill. but really this is i would call rubbish to be honest. >> and it was very unlikely farage would have ever done any such deal. >> yeah. wouldn't it have made more sense to actually do the election later? if they'd left it to like a november election, he would have been busy. he would have not, certainly wouldn't have stood for a seat. it would have been an american wanted already had a taste of america. yeah. >> but he wasn't in power when this, this interview took place, when this meeting took place, farage wasn't even the leader of the party. so again they've tried to pin it to him, but of course, he wasn't even the leader. it just makes no sense. so i don't like what timothy timothy have to say about this. >> good evening. you all remember who played timothy, damien, the sunday telegraph. you don't see much of angela rayner unless you're sat opposite her in the house of commons, of course. >> well, here we have more speculation. angela rayner is already being frozen out of the

neoliberal side of the labour party. and the allies fear. now, this is again from speculation, from words being thrown back and forth, but nobody really knows. but that's kind of the long and short of it. and this is because all the other business secretary, foreign secretary everyone's been given these big showpiece projects, you know , showpiece projects, you know, ed's got his solar panels and lammy is out doing his international diplomacy. but nobody's really defined the role for angela rayner yet . and her for angela rayner yet. and her friends are telling her to get out there. do more, be seen, you know, get stuck in. but we all know, get stuck in. but we all know that there's still that divide between the blairites and the more corbynites. and of course , now that side have course, now that side have served their purpose of getting keir in, the questions are emerging as to what's going to happen. is keir simply going to kind of put that away, that side of the party away? so i don't know, but i just think it's, still highly speculative. so can't say .

can't say. >> nick. is she being frozen out? i mean, she can't be fired. so just take the week off. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, it wouldn't surprise me if she is. i mean, deputy prime minister, it's not clear what the role means. it's kind of one of those. vice president. >> sounds good. unless you're actually in politics, you realise. >> oh, it kind of means nothing. and so as i say in the article, where is out there? and rachel and all the, all the blairite lot and she's there, you know, the trade union type lefty person who's just she's bound to be frozen out if starmer gets his way, i would imagine, because he's just she's a problem for him. >> well, he's given her this impossible task of being, you know, in charge of growth and of course, if you understand basic economics, you would know that all of the things they're doing are not going to create any growth at all in fact, the exact opposite will happen. >> luckily, labour don't understand basic economics, so it works out. >> so angela rayner has been given a possible task which will distract her from potentially usurping keir starmer. that's my take. that's my hot take. >> like the political version of colouring in. yeah, right. nick the sunday express, the solution to the prison crisis could be to

send prisoners to foreign countries. as someone warned australia to check on that. >> it's not a bad idea. i mean, keir starmer ordered to deport 10,000 foreign criminals to end prison crisis. so if you look at the ministry of justice figures, there's 10,422 foreign nationals held in custody, around 1 in 8 of all prisoners around . and of all prisoners around. and 6632 of these have been convicted of a crime and sentenced, while others are on remand. so you go where can have like alcatraz, where? >> like a prison island. >> like a prison island. >> they're just taking people in. why do we have all these people here to just end up in prison anyway? so to me, it seems i don't use the phrase send them back, but it seems like a no brainer. >> if keir starmer did well, he's he's basically use it, but send them back to where they came from is what keir starmer said exactly. >> the problem with you doing that voice is we suddenly realise your normal voice is so close to it and i'm just always thinking about survival the whole time, which is great because i love him. but, yeah, i mean, this would be a great move for starmer to actually just get rid of anyone. anyone, just get rid of anyone. anyone, just get rid of anyone. anyone, just get rid of if you're a foreign national, if you committed a crime, get rid of them. it'd be such a great, tough move for starmer to do. the only people

who would object would be the far left of his party, who are mental anyway and are not going to vote for him for don't like him anyway, right? and they're going to be like owen jones voting green and stuff. so i would just i'd say he should do it. >> richard tice is urging him to do it. >> well, that's yeah, that's who's urging him. but i it's the last thing keir starmer would do. in fact you know keir starmer is mr human rights. and you know you can't you cannot deport you know criminals who aren't from this country or aren't from this country or aren't citizens because of the human rights legislation. so there's absolutely no way he's going to do that. so instead he's decided to simply release any prisoner who served 40% of their sentence. yeah and things can only get worse . mantra is can only get worse. mantra is now coming into play. so it's like , how can we make things like, how can we make things even worse than they were for the last 14 years? release the criminals. >> but the biggest nationality in this set of people who are deportable , i suppose are the deportable, i suppose are the easiest way of saying it, are albanian, and we've got an agreement, a returns agreement, which must imply that returning to there doesn't contravene human rights. so i think there's some space where he could do this. >> hopefully we can. you're

right. he is obsessed with human rights and he's obsessed with going around the world letting violent murderers off the death penalty. this is one of his passions. >> well, i mean, look , he's >> well, i mean, look, he's a human rights lawyer, and that, you know, that is law. and, i'm not i'm not against human rights, but i just think it's highly balance. >> i am against them. >> i am against them. >> well, fine. i mean, i just think it's i just don't see it happening. and i think the fact that they're releasing the criminals have served a bit of their sentence just shows how unwilling they are to even consider that. >> well, we'll find out. watch this space, damian. the mail on sunday elon musk has given money to donald trump. is this hush money? did he sleep with trump? can we find out more? >> well, i'll do this one as donald for you for this one, elon musk donates a sizeable amount to a pac supporting me. >> donald trump and elon musk has decided to donate to donald trump. nobody could see it. incredible. really amazing things. but elon musk has been ramping up criticism of joe biden. everybody knows elon has gone off him the democrats, years ago because of the collusion with the fbi and social media companies, to

censor people, to censor the hunter biden, allegations. and laptop story, all of which has now been proven to be completely true. and of course, the fbi and twitter were, you know, colluding to censor conservatives in america and, of course, libertarians and anybody that had an opinion deviating slightly from buzzfeed, you know, so elon's been on the kind of rough end of the kind of like, neo liberal left in america for a long time. and he's also very concerned about the open border policy the biden has had, which has resulted in 9 million people coming to the country illegally who are now potentially even going to be able to vote, given the fact that you don't need voter id and a lot many states and, you know, a lot many states and, you know, a bit of fortification could go a bit of fortification could go a long way, given that biden is barely able to speak. >> so it was back in march. elon said he wasn't going to give to money any party. my question to you, nick, would be what would frank spencer have to say about this? >> well, it turns out to be a

pretty complicated question. i can only do jordan peterson, but, since we're all doing impressions, i wish i could do frank. >> so, yeah, it's a good question. >> it's obvious, as you say, for musk. why would he go with the people who want to shut down speech at all costs and hate him, or the people who love his sick memes? it's pretty obvious, you know, he was more of a desantis guy than trump famously did. the twitter space, which went horribly wrong, was a big part of why desantis didn't do well. but he obviously has pivoted to trump. probably if this is true and why wouldn't you? >> well, everybody is. i mean , >> well, everybody is. i mean, even the people who are not allowed to even think about voting for donald trump, say the black voters in america are swinging to trump massively and donors because of the whole debate. but everything everybody is, it's now considered based or cool or edgy to vote for him, just just to kind of stick one to the establishment. >> well, that's it for part two. in your favourite part, part three. good news if you don't like the science because it's museum has less money now and scottish kids don't need no education. they need a bodyguard.

next. welcome back to headliners. we are going to mention the fact that there are reports that gunshots reportedly fired at donald trump rally will get you more on that breaking news story, as we can bring it to you. we will plough on with headliners in the meantime and look at tomorrow's newspapers. nick the sunday telegraph, taxpayers money going to trade unions in 2023, under which labour government was in power. then came , yeah, yeah, almost then came, yeah, yeah, almost 100 million of taxpayer cash spent on public sector staff working for trade unions. >> so the taxpayers alliances reveal that there are all these this money going to it's this kind of labour thing. the labour curse really, of trade unions and wasting lots of money on it. it's these, meetings, facility time. it's called where you you meet up with a union rep. i don't fully. >> do you want to explain it for

me, david? >> well, before you do that, you do say it's the labour curse. but this is why i mentioned 2020 three inches the intro bit. this is not a labour government issue. they weren't in power then. >> yes, well, i mean this is the £100 million. right. well basically yes. it's like public pubuc basically yes. it's like public public sector workers obviously are paid with taxpayers money and they then they can strike and, organise to demand more taxpayers money. and the fact that the problem, the problem that the problem, the problem that the problem, the problem that the journalist has with this is that they're being, you know, paid, well, they're rather being paid extra by the unions to, sorry. this. yeah but it's always been the case that you can have a job and work for the union that represents the workers in that industry. >> so , i mean, this i totally >> so, i mean, this i totally take the point that it's taxpayers money. you do need to pay taxpayers money. you do need to pay more attention to it, but they talk about moonlighting. but then if it were moonlighting, it's not the taxpayer paying. that's the problem because the moonlighting is the second job often done after hours . or google it to after hours. or google it to make sure i knew what the definition was. they're being paid. they've got two jobs. one

is a taxpayer, one one is a union, one. >> yes. and that's it really. and also we're talking about a minuscule amount of money here on the grand scheme of things. yeah, i mean £100 million in terms of say , government funding terms of say, government funding is really a kind of drop in the ocean. it's, and i think this story is reaching to try and create more of a drama than there really is. i mean, this has been going on for a long time, and angela rayner and labour are saying, you know, we want to introduce more of this ability and more, more rights for people to , to organise for people to, to organise around their union. so i'm not so sure it's, as big a, a bigger deal or it's going to get much, you know, leg room. unfortunately >> we'll see damian the mail on sunday, people say why do they teach algebra in school. you don't need that in later life. well, in some classrooms there's violence and that will come in handyin violence and that will come in handy in later life up in scotland. >> yeah. i mean, this is from the mail on sunday. an epidemic of violence in scottish classrooms as the uk's top school chief has blasted the snp for allowing the problem to spiral out of control. and what really blew my mind about this

story is that the majority of this violence is occurring in primary schools, and there's 12,000 incidents have occurred , 12,000 incidents have occurred, andifs 12,000 incidents have occurred, and it's like, what is going on with these scottish kids? i mean, again, they're saying they're blaming it on the lockdowns. and, you know, i think that's a fair accusation. but let's not forget, i mean, nobody locked down or wanted a lockdown harder than the snp in scotland. and you know, be damned the consequences. and perhaps these are the consequences. but, you know, it's sad that it's happening in glasgow, which has had problems with with youth violence before. and it doesn't bode well for the future. there but, and i think it's symptomatic of this, perhaps of also of a culture of helicopter parenting and, and you kind of breed of parenting, which is very progressive and is all about constantly not allowing your child to be uncomfortable whatsoever. and then, of course, you put that those children into a school and that, that, that kind of thing breaks out. but who knows? i mean, who knows the real reason?

>> yeah, it used to be back in my day, which is only slightly older than your day, but sorry, in your day, it was parents evening. it was parents and teachers against the kids, and now it seems to be parents and kid against the teacher. >> it's shocking. i mean, a teacher assaulted by a pupil every four minutes, apparently. >> i mean, imagine that class. >> i mean, imagine that class. >> i mean, it's horrendous stuff. >> and to me it's another sort of almost variation of anarcho tyranny. >> we side with criminals, but we also side with children against teachers. >> and, you know, we side with them against parents on certain issues like the trans thing and the idea that restorative chats are the only action taken against violent children is insane. >> obviously, there's no punishment and disincentive for them. >> yeah. and you just imagine, while they can call them these chats, i imagine it's only the teacher talking and the kid just sits there surly . sits there surly. >> yeah. yes. >> yeah. yes. >> i mean, there's a good chance that it was it was progressive policies that led to the problem as progressive policies are going to make them worse, more proof that things can only get worse . woi'se. >> worse. >> it's a theme, isn't it, nick? the observer, the science museum is going off organic chemistry. >> yeah. london's science museum

forced to cut ties with oil giant and faces pressure over other sponsors. so they've been they've cut ties with equinor who was some sort of oil giant. >> and it's all to do with them not keeping up with their emissions targets. >> and the paris climate agreement and all this kind of stuff. >> and it's hard for me to care because i don't go to museums and i don't believe in climate change. >> so for me, the story is really hard to get involved with. >> but i'm sure it's very serious and important. >> well, i mean, the equinor have been sponsoring the museum's interactive wonder lab since 2016. and i mean, are they going to have to shut down wonder lab? i mean, i haven't seen it yet, so that's a massive for blow me. but i mean, you know, hats off to equinor for actually funding funding, you know, wonder lab, at least they're doing something good with all that oil money. but not anymore. but of course bp are allowed and other oil companies also still allowed. so it's just equinor because the attention has been on them and they haven't been able to greenwash their esg policy quite as well. >> so that's what you think. i mean, people say that sponsoring events and sponsoring museums is greenwashing . i've never seen a greenwashing. i've never seen a sponsor of a thing and thought, oh, well, they must love the

planet now because their logos on a book or something, it's greenwashing actually work. >> well, i was suggesting more that bp are very good at greenwashing and equinor probably haven't quite caught up with it yet. maybe norway is not quite as good at figuring that out. yeah, but that's my theory. >> a lot of ads on podcasts. but then bp, if you want to put ads in my podcast, i will listen to whatever you have to say, damien, the metro, when it comes to puberty blockers, the ball has finally dropped. the penny has finally dropped. the penny has finally dropped. the penny has finally dropped. >> well, i mean, i love a i love a good metro story, so the ban on puberty blockers is driven by ex—health secretary's personal views. so the ban on puberty blockers was motivated by the former health minister secretary's personal views and implemented without taking clinical other scientific advice, the high court has heard , advice, the high court has heard, this is from a campaign group called trans actual. and the reality is that the cass review is the other people who spoke and pointed out that these medications are just definitively, completely unsafe for anybody under the age of 16.

>> didn't the cass review say there is no evidence to say that they are safe just to be mr pernickety ? mr pedantry that was pernickety? mr pedantry that was the. well, there's no evidence that they're safe. >> i mean yes, exactly. but there's a lot of evidence that they're unsafe, >> the cass review bloke went down on the side of if you don't have evidence that it is safe, you can't use it. didn't say it should be stopped because there's no evidence that it is unsafe. >> of course, i think if there was, if the evidence was there, that it was safe, the category would have said it's safe. yeah, but on the contrary, i mean, you know, puberty blockers are also known as, you know, a form of chemical castration. and just to list a few of the ailments that can give you, if you're under the age of 16, side effects, osteoporosis. heart attack, diabetes, cataracts , diabetes, cataracts, hyperthyroidism, nausea, seizures, hypertension , brain seizures, hypertension, brain tumours. i mean, if you look in, look into it , tumours. i mean, if you look in, look into it, which tumours. i mean, if you look in, look into it , which the cass look into it, which the cass review did, the downsides are terrifying. yeah. and it's deeply immoral to give a child that kind of physical risk from medication. >> yeah. it's good to see some

sanity returning to labour on this. >> very much. the blair agenda, blair has said on the kind of transition, you know, he said, a man is a man and woman is a woman, and he's he's i feel like i'm not saying that starmer just does everything blair says. of course . coui'se. >> course. >> but it's very much that agenda rather than the mad woke side. but we've already had zarah sultana come out and say she's totally against this . she's totally against this. >> so starmer has to somehow control the madder element of his party and just stick with the sanity represented here. >> herein, i would say. >> herein, i would say. >> does he have to do that with a majority of this side? would be nice if he did, but he doesn't have to control any element of his. no. it'sjust element of his. no. it's just enough of it that he'll always get everything through parliament. >> you should enjoy it, steve, because it's a rare moment when i'm going to sympathise with starmer, because you're here, you're trying to fix a collapsing health system. you're trying to build a record amount of homes and all these incredibly complicated infrastructure challenges. then you've got nutters in your party just going, oh, and we puberty blockers are good. and it's just like, oh, shut up, you idiots. >> well, we have used puberty blockers, but don't use them on children. i mean, that's, that's that's all anyone is saying. and it's completely common sense. >> and you use them in medical, you use them for their original

medical usage only. >> so you can say use puberty blockers on people who have already gone through puberty. well interesting. take. >> well, they're not they're not actually puberty blockers. they're a they're a hormonal hormonal medication that have a whole host of uses. but they're called puberty blockers by the by people that want to block the puberty of children. >> all right. let's move to on the mail. on sunday, nick and bear grylls gets a gig helping with army recruitment. because nothing makes you want to sign up more than a man who is famous for having to drink his own wee. >> yeah, it's king charles appoints bear grylls to new army role and makes tv adventurer a figurehead for young recruits. so it's the honorary council of the army foundation college is what he's the title he's received . received. >> what i say it's honorary colonel. i say something completely different . completely different. >> sorry. i'm still traumatised from this. these events. so the honorary colonel. sorry. and it seems perfectly wholesome to me . seems perfectly wholesome to me. my seems perfectly wholesome to me. my only two thoughts on it are. yeah, bear grylls seems all right, and it seems perfectly wholesome. >> a more cynical thought, maybe. we think there's going to be some wars in the future, and we're going to have to start

sort of promoting the idea of you know, soldiers and the kind of things that resilience of young people help them succeed in life and within the military. >> maybe it's a kind of like, hey, guys, you think we might need soldiers and sort of men who can do stuff in the future? >> bear grylls poster the army needs you. all of that stuff. >> yeah, yeah. i mean, war is the ultimate survival experience. so it is right up his street in that sense. but yeah, he was baptising russell brand for you, a few weeks ago. so it's a massive, you know, an enormous, remarkable kind of, in the thames, wasn't it ? the thames, wasn't it? >> that's a survival thing, was it? >> in the thames? >> in the thames? >> yeah, yeah. bear grylls always adds a survival element, even to baptism. >> you will need some survival skills in the thames. >> exactly . and you need some >> exactly. and you need some other kinds of survival skills to be associated with russell brand. >> so it's a it's a 3d. >> yeah. he survived all of it. >> yeah. he survived all of it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> will he survived russell brand's, you know, negative aura. and he'd gone straight to prince charles a remarkable just the final section to go with

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donald trump shot in an attempted assassination during a pennsylvania campaign event. >> if you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened. >> president biden has spoken with donald trump as he called for the country to unite and condemn the violence. >> look, there's no place in america for this kind of violence. it's sick, it's sick. it's one of the reasons why we have to unite this country . have to unite this country. >> and just a day out from the republican national convention, how will this moment shape the election campaign ? election campaign?

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