>> well. >> well. >> good afternoon. it's 3:00. >> good afternoon. it's 3:00. >> welcome to gb news live on tv, onune >> welcome to gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . hitting the headlines right now. >> this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it is yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. in a few moments time, we'll be going head to head in the clash with journalist jonathan lis and also broadcaster emma woolf. right. here's what else is coming up. after the assassination attempt on donald trump. i want to be a politician in my niggle. i shall explain then what would drive somebody to spend £1 million on cosmetic surgeries to change their gender.7 i'll ask my outside guest any clues who that

might be. then, of course, tonight . can might be. then, of course, tonight. can the might be. then, of course, tonight . can the three lions might be. then, of course, tonight. can the three lions end the 58 years of hurt.7 our reporter jack carson is in berlin, taking in the atmosphere . berlin, taking in the atmosphere. >> well, as you can see, we are surrounded by thousands of england fans. there's only one more thing for england to do. and that is make history. is it coming home? >> well, one thing's for sure. they are . but will they win? but they are. but will they win? but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. it's just gone. 3:00. your top story this hour. donald trump has thanked people for their thoughts and prayers after he was shot during an assassination attempt. video footage shows the moment gunfire rang out, sparking panic in the crowd as secret service agents swarmed the former president . the former president. >> if you want to really see

something that said, take a look at what happened . at what happened. >> the fbi has confirmed the alleged gunman, 20 year old thomas matthew crooks, was shot at the scene. it's understood he was on the roof of a building nearby. we now know he was a registered republican, though his motive for the attack remains unknown. one spectator who also. who? one spectator was also killed and two others are in a critical condition. president joe biden has responded to the assassination attempt . speaking last night responded to the assassination attempt. speaking last night in delaware, biden condemned the attack against his political opponent. >> there is no place in america for this kind of violence. it's sick . it's sick at. the bottom sick. it's sick at. the bottom line is that the trump rally was

a rally that he should have been able to be conducted peacefully, without any problem. but the idea, the idea that there's political violence or violence in america like this is just unheard of. it's just not appropriate. we everybody, everybody must condemn it. >> prime minister sir keir starmer is among world leaders condemning last night's attack, saying it was appalling. in the us, vice president kamala harris says she's relieved trump is not seriously injured, while billionaire elon musk says he'll continue to fully endorse the former president and hopes for his rapid recovery and reform. uk leader nigel farage says trump's assassination attempt is another example of liberal intolerance. >> you left liberal elite have this sort of form of intellectual superiority where they believe they're better human beings than those on the centre right, and that is what's run through media education. and thatis

run through media education. and that is at the heart of this problem. liberal intolerance . problem. liberal intolerance. and i did say to him, if i hadnt and i did say to him, if i hadn't been elected to parliament, i'd be with him this weekend. so i would have been at that rally, if i, if i decided to not stand for parliament. but i've now decided, tom, in the light of what's happened, that i will fly out to america this week, i will go and see my friend, and i'll do it. you know, i'll listen to his acceptance speech at the convention on thursday. and i'll do it not just as a friend, but i'll do it because we have to stand up for democracy. we have to stand up for people to be able to campaign. if we don't, we're absolutely sunk . we're absolutely sunk. >> in other news, david lammy has called for an immediate ceasefire in gaza during his first trip to the middle east since becoming foreign secretary it comes as the israeli military says the hamas khan younis bngade says the hamas khan younis brigade commander, has been killed in an israeli airstrike in gaza. the attack also targeted the head of the group's armed wing , mohammed deif. armed wing, mohammed deif. however, it's unclear whether he was killed. it hit the southern city of khan younis, the hamas

run health ministry claim up to 90 people have died during the attacks . england are hoping to attacks. england are hoping to go one step further than their ,2,021 final, when the squad faced spain in tonight's final in berlin. ahead of the big game, sir keir starmer has praised england's footballers , praised england's footballers, saying they've made the country proud. in a letter to gareth southgate and the team, the prime minister emphasised their graft and hard work and wish them the very best. gareth southgate and his players are hoping to win england's first trophy since 1966 and go down in legend. >> i'm not a believer in fairy tales, but i am a believer in dreams and, we've had big dreams. we've felt the need and the importance of that . but the importance of that. but then, you know, you have to make those things happen . those things happen. >> and the princess of wales has arrived at men's wimbledon final today alongside her daughter,

princess charlotte. princess katherine will present either novak djokovic or carlos alcaraz with the trophy on centre court. it is her second public appearance following her cancer diagnosis. she made a brief return to the public spotlight last month at trooping the colour . last month at trooping the colour. those are the last month at trooping the colour . those are the latest gv colour. those are the latest gv news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> before we get stuck into the debates over the next hour, let me introduce you to my clashes. joining me today , journalist joining me today, journalist jonathan lis. and also broadcaster emma wolf right here is what's coming up in this houn is what's coming up in this hour. should the whole of the uk get behind england ahead of the euros finals? of course they should. they face spain in berlin and if the three lions come out on top, do you think we

deserve a bank holiday? then is democracy safe after the attempted assassination of donald trump, leaders around the world have condemned the shooting as an attack on democratic values. and then, of course, the tories are still fighting like cats in a sack. are they dead in the water? as former prime minister rishi sunak continues to head out to head up the party, how could infighting delay their efforts to choose a new leader? and when do they? what's what's left of the party? has the labour seat raid on schools gone too far? now there are warnings that the government's plans to tax private schools could force specialist schools to close, like a school for the blind . like a school for the blind. tell me what you think. as ever on everything we're discussing. send me your thoughts. post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . comments gbnews.com/yoursay. right, so let's kick things off because of course it's the football. tonight i will make a change, a wardrobe change later. well, but let's do the serious stuff first. can the three lions end 58 years of hurt? now they

face spain in berlin in what is their first ever major final abroad. with excitement and belief growing that we can actually win, manager gareth southgate isn't to prepared say it's coming home. >> so, yeah, look, i am, i'm not a believer in fairy tales, but i am a believer in dreams and, we've had big dreams. we've felt the need and the importance of that. but then, you know, you have to make those things happen. and, fate, the run that we've had, the, late goals, the penalties that just that doesn't equate to us. you know, it being our moment, we have to make it happen tomorrow. we have to perform at the level that we need to perform. >> monotone. very monotone. let's hope they don't play like that right now. let's cross over to reporters . jack carson in to reporters. jack carson in berlin and anna riley in hull. i'm going to start with you,

jack. you're out there in berlin. how's the atmosphere building up? what's going on there ? there? >> i mean, i don't really need to speak nana, to be honest. i think it's just easier if we just show you we're with chris skudder as well. i mean, chris, this atmosphere is pretty fantastic, isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, it's been a long tournament, but here we are. i mean, this is this is the god save the king. it says on that flag aston villa, we just saw a birmingham city flag as well. so everyone's coming despite the rivalries. everybody's coming together for the nation tonight. there you go. there's charles and he'll be. he's already gave a message to the to the team after. and what did he say. no more penalties, no more last minute goals. let's just get the job done. and you know, it's all about just getting over the line tonight. it doesn't matter what it looks like. it's not, you know, an artistic expression thing. this is about winning a football match. all the big nafionsin football match. all the big nations in europe spain , nations in europe spain, germany, italy, france, the netherlands have won all big tournament since 1966. it's time. it is time for england to deliver. it's got to happen .

deliver. it's got to happen. >> well, chris, i mean, you know, we've seen the england fans around us. how are they feeling? nana we spoke to a few of them a little bit earlier on. >> yeah, it's going to be brilliant isn't it. i mean these i'm 57 these days. don't come around very often do they . you around very often do they. you know and i'm really looking forward to it. proud to watch our boys put on a good show hopefully. >> unfortunately we're going to be with the, spanish side. the only tickets we could get. so, you know, it is what it is, isn't it? but we're going to win it. >> yeah, well, it's going to be a massive test, i mean, tonight hopefully we turn up tonight and put a real show on. >> can i put you both to a score prediction for tonight, >> i'd go with two one, two one. >> i'd go with two one, two one. >> yeah. 21212. >> yeah. 21212. >> england, i'm assuming. >> england, i'm assuming. >> yeah , definitely. >> yeah, definitely. >> yeah, definitely. >> we'll go two. we'll go two nil up. >> they'll pull one back and then we'll be biting our fingers till the end. i think. >> well that's the views from some of the fans there . there is some of the fans there. there is a little bit of nervousness for that excitement and anticipation ahead of today's game. of

course, back in 96, when southgate played in the tournament, which was in england and germany won on english soil, they have the chance to do it on german soil today. and his pre—match press conference, gareth southgate said he doesn't believe in fairy tales, but he does believe in dreams. while all of us here in berlin are dreaming. >> well, let's hope that we don't wake up in hell if they lose. no they won't. now let's cross over to anne riley, who's in a fan zone in hull. thank you to jack carson . anna, how's it going? >> good afternoon. nana yeah. it's good, it's great. it's a fantastic, thing for trade for pubs, for fan zones. it really has got people coming out and spending their money in these areas. >> and millions of extra pints are going to be pulled during the game , generating £50 million the game, generating £50 million of extra revenue for pubs like this one. >> we're in kicks. sports bar and grill. i'm delighted to be joined by luke bellingham. >> he is the owner here. just tell us, lucas , about trade and

tell us, lucas, about trade and how the euros have boosted it because you've got fully booked, aren't you? >> yeah, we're fully booked now. >> yeah, we're fully booked now. >> i mean, to be honest with you, we've got over 100 people on the wait list that we couldn't accommodate, >> and trade for euros has been good. >> the weekdays. not as good as the weekends, which you'd expect, but we're expecting a bumper day today. >> and just tell us about the atmosphere, because you said for the world cup you had people crowd surfing. >> yeah. i mean, the atmosphere is crazy , especially when we is crazy, especially when we score and we are going to score, obviously. >> and the noise in here is just absolutely immense. >> it's a really, really good atmosphere. >> and how does it boost trade? >> and how does it boost trade? >> because it has been a bit quieter hasn't it, of late. >> yeah, i think everybody in hospitality, you know it's not been the best time. but you know these events really do sort of pull people together and get them get them out. so fingers crossed for it to a good night. >> and what is your score prediction. >> so i think as long as we start off well with three two towards obviously you know so but you know come on england not penalties though because they're far too nerve racking i bear it. can't bear any more penalties . can't bear any more penalties. yeah. nerves won't take anymore. >> and you've got some food on

haven't you. >> doing burgers and hot dogs, burgers, hot dogs, everything that you'd expect. you know, like i was saying earlier on, as long as they don't score by the return, we'll be all right. that will be a lot of sweeping up. >> i don't want any burgers throwing up in the air. if people keep the hot dogs in their mouths rather than in the air. but we'll see. nana if it's coming home. only a couple of hours to go now till that game starts today. everybody's nervously waiting, but also excited. england getting through to the finals. can they bring it home? fingers crossed they can. >> fingers crossed they can. let's hope they don't put us through the wringer like they always do. anna riley, lovely to talk to you. thank you very much. and of course, jack carson was there in berlin. wow. so it's going to be a busy one. so welcome again to my clash as political commentator jonathan liss, also a writer and broadcaster. emma woolf. all right, jonathan liss, are you going to be watching the football tonight? is that your thing or. no. absolutely. yeah. yeah what do you think, do you think we should have a bank holiday? should we win? >> why not? the more holidays , >> why not? the more holidays, the better, >> i mean, look, and the thing with the bank holiday is, even if you don't support the reason for it, you can enjoy the bank

holiday. i always hate this idea that, oh, the economy will suffer. i think we all need to have a bit of light about these things. i think that we can have a day off every now and again. we actually have. there's a political point about that. we actually have far fewer bank holidays in this country than other countries do. i think we should have more bank holidays and we should spread them out throughout the year , because throughout the year, because there's one period where you don't have one for about five months. i think after the august 1st until christmas, about four months, as long as the doctors and people like that that you might need don't do it, then that's fine. >> what do you think, emma woolf? >> well, i think this is a great time. >> i think the country really needs this at the moment. >> we're so well, the world especially. but but this country was so divided. we've had such a bitter and unhappy election and i think and of course, labour are going to claim this victory. >> if england win tonight, labour will claim that, you know, it's that'll be all over starmer, won't it. >> but no, i think the, i think the country really needs this boost. >> and just cycling through central london just now, people are already heading to the sports bars and the pubs and everyone's wearing their red or their england shirts and their red shirts and i don't know, there's a real feeling that the

country will come together. the mostly the fans have been really, really good. there's been a few isolated incidents, but mostly i think the country is massively behind the team. >> everybody seems to be predicting two one, which is interesting, but let's hope that the boys can bring it home. >> well, uri geller was on yesterday and he he said that we have to do a chant to the screen. i will find that and we will encourage people to do that because apparently, like a hacker kind of it's not a hacker, but like a little chant that we can encourage people to , that we can encourage people to, you know, put your hand on the screen and say a few words when they're playing. i mean, look, i thought it would be two, one, any, any idea? do you know who the players are? yeah. any any idea of the scorers you think might score the first goal, >> maybe ollie will score again . >> maybe ollie will score again. maybe he'll do the decider. the second goal? i don't know , i second goal? i don't know, i don't know. yeah, well, i like gareth southgate to be a bit more lively. i mean he's, he's very monotone, very, very low key. in the press conference of course he's, you know, absolutely terrified and wanting every, you know, but, but this thing about we don't believe in fairytales but we do believe in dreams. >> you think come on mate,

you've got you've got million. >> 25 million. i think people watching in this country, 50,000 of them out in berlin. >> what an amazing day . >> what an amazing day. >> what an amazing day. >> could you imagine what it's like being one of the players getting ready for all of this? >> yeah, yeah, they'll be in their zone, won't they? absolutely and also, can i just drop in while we're talking about sport? how lovely to see the princess of wales back at wimbledon looking amazing in a purple dress, looking just really like just back, you know, it's really, really lovely. i think that's another boost for the country because, you know, catherine is an absolute trouper. >> well i hope she's okay. i hope she's okay jonathan lewis so an exciting night tonight . so an exciting night tonight. any ideas. are you going out with friends or just watching at home? >> no, i'll definitely be seeing it with some friends for sure, look, all these things, i think obviously you want england to win, but it's important to have a sense of perspective. i remember watching the last euros final in in my friend's restaurant with a group of people and, you know, at the end of it, it was all a bit miserable. and i remember it was pounng miserable. and i remember it was pouring down with rain. but then

you kind of think, well, you know, there are bigger things happening out there. it's not the end of the world if you don't win. >> it's not the end of the world if we don't win. but we're going to win because football's coming home. that's all i'm going to be saying. well, so what do you think gbnews.com/yoursay give us your score predictions and also what you're doing tonight to get ready to watch that match. so remember, as soon as you can, you can remember, as $00“ as you can, you can see remember, as soon as you can, you can see in the scottish newspaper as well, they might, they might not be too keen to get behind the three lions, which is a shame, i'd like to see them all get behind us. i hope the irish and everybody else do that as well. but if you've just joined me, just coming up to 18 minutes after 3:00, this is gb news. we're live on tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua on the way. are the tories dead in the way. are the tories dead in the water? but next is democracy safe? after the attempted assassination of donald trump

good afternoon. this is gb news. if you're just tuned in. welcome on board. i'm nana akua. it's just coming up to 21 minutes after 3:00. we have a busy show, lots to talk about, and we want to get your comments. gbnews.com forward. slash your sinner. before the break, we were discussing lots of things and lots of you have been getting in touch with your comments. we will check those out throughout the show, but political violence has returned to america. donald trump, shot during an attempted assassination at a rally in pennsylvania. here is the moment that shots rang through the rally and donald trump was quickly yet defiantly pulled off the stage by the secret service . the stage by the secret service. >> if you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened over.

>> obviously there was it appeared that he'd been shot . >> obviously there was it appeared that he'd been shot. he clasped his ear. then he ducked. he went down. and this was what i think was told to do. and then he did a fist bump as if to say, come on, fight, fight, fight. it's what he said. now trump, now released from hospital and returning home, is said to be doing well in this. returning home, is said to be doing well in this . in doing well in this. in a statement, he said that he felt that the bullet ripped through his ear. well, joining me now with the latest is our reporter, ray addison ray. what more can you tell us about all of that? >> well, we don't know the motive yet. we know that he was a local guy, from pennsylvania , a local guy, from pennsylvania, 20 years old, called thomas matthew crooks. he graduated from his high school back in 2022. got a science award, maths and science. we know that. he crawled onto the roof of a factory, just outside the cordon where this rally was taking place . he had a direct line of place. he had a direct line of sight towards trump and obviously of course, that line of sight would have involved some audience members in front

of it and behind donald trump as well. we know that one man was fatally shot. we know that two other men also have critical injuries, although details of those injuries have not yet been revealed. and trump described heanng revealed. and trump described hearing a whizzing sound, heanng hearing a whizzing sound, hearing the shots and immediately feeling that bullet ripping through the skin of his, of his right ear , and seeing the of his right ear, and seeing the blood as well. we saw then that moment where he dropped to the ground, which obviously will be his training. he would have been trained many times to do that when he was president before, but then very, very rapidly standing up, pumping his fist in the air, and, and shouting the word fight and that iconic picture, that image that we've seen with the american flag behind him , just creating an behind him, just creating an image, an incredible image that just summed up that moment. we've also seen from the official photography there as

well, one image that purports to show, the bullet which has already just whizzed past and presumably through donald trump's right ear, you could just see it caught in that moment, in that frame. oh my god, as well. now president biden, issued a statement. obviously, trump was taken off to receive medical care. president biden issued a statement. i think we can hear it now. >> there's no place in america for this kind of violence. it's sick. it's sick at. the bottom line is that the trump rally was a rally that he should have been able to be conducted peacefully, without any problem. but the idea, the idea that there's political violence or violence in america like this is just unheard of. it's just not appropriate. we everybody, everybody must condemn it. >> yeah. he says everyone must condemn it. but it wasn't a little while ago he was talking about a bull's eye, which some of the personnel complaining that perhaps his words may have,

in a sense, incited somebody. obviously, you know, we're not blaming him, but many of them are. >> well, just a week ago, on monday, he gave a speech to donors. obviously, he's very keen on raising as much money as he possibly can at the moment for his presidential campaign as president. president biden was speaking to donors . he said it's speaking to donors. he said it's time to put trump in a bull's eye, now, of course he's speaking metaphorically, not literally . however, you know, if literally. however, you know, if you do have people out there who are, susceptible to hearing what they want to hear or believe that they're being told, just like donald trump supporters have been accused of being told to act, you know, act violently, by him. there's been accusations of that. >> i don't believe he has said anything specifically like this. you know, the insurrection. he made comments, but he didn't. he told people to calm, peacefully protest. those were his words. he didn't say, you know, but i think the point is that anything somebody says can be open to interpretation and using the term bull's eye is very , very,

term bull's eye is very, very, very regrettable. >> the us house speaker, mike johnson, said that heated political rhetoric needs to be dialled down, i guess from from both sides. but what we have seen certainly over the last year very , very strongly is this year very, very strongly is this rhetoric that has been used by the democrats against donald trump likening of him to hitler , trump likening of him to hitler, suggesting that if he returns to the white house he will kill democracy and that, you know, they must, you know, stop him kind of at any cost, almost terrible, terrible. >> and ironically, this it feels like this is the kind of behaviour that does kill democracy . jonathan ashworth democracy. jonathan ashworth looking a little bit confused and giving me the eyes there, i'm saying not looking confused. >> i'm just i'm just troubled by some of them. no, i'm not perplexed either. i'm just a bit troubled by the implication of what we are talking about. right now. donald trump is exactly the same person today as he was yesterday, and i should start by, of course, condemning in most unequivocal terms what happened. and no politician

should ever be subject to violence at all. so that's that's an absolute. and we should we should all agree with that no matter which political side we're on and our opponents are on, that doesn't mean that we can't condemn him in the most vociferous way for his politics. thatis vociferous way for his politics. that is the essence of democracy. what i'm really troubled by at the moment is this idea that calling him dangerous is somehow an incitement to violence. it's outrageous that the implication of this is that somehow it's going to be off limits to criticise trump for the things that he has actually said and done. >> okay, so in what way is he dangerous? i mean, because ideally, if you're going to be criticising someone, you could highlight the policies and say that these aren't great policies to give reasoning rather than giving it a label and calling it a name like dangerous. well, people will see things different. >> he's been he's been charged with multiple offences and he's been found guilty of some of them. obviously those weren't dangerous offences that he's been found guilty of, but this is a man who has shown complete contempt for democracy. he tried to overthrow an election he

spearheaded. he spearheaded an attack on, on the capitol and certainly incited an attack on the capitol. you know, he's been he's been accused of inciting a revolt against the united states government. >> and then nobody stops . you >> and then nobody stops. you know, he would say that the election was stolen from him . election was stolen from him. and judging by the behaviour, the way the legal system has been weaponized against him, some people may think that he may have some truth in that. >> i see no evidence that the election was stolen from him. but you may not have it. it doesn't matter, actually, because it's entirely it's entirely legitimate. it's entirely legitimate. it's entirely legitimate. it's entirely legitimate. for opponents of trump like me and millions of others, to say that trump is dangerous based on our understanding and the evidence that we have about what he has said and done, it's entirely legitimate. if you disagree. well, i and i told you and i told you , it's entirely told you, it's entirely legitimate for you to disagree with that. it doesn't mean that it's not legitimate for me to say it. i didn't say it. no, no, no no. but what? i'm fine. fine. that's fine. but what i'm saying is that he can still be dangerous. the remedy for that, as far as i'm concerned, is to

defeat him at the ballot box, not to not to use violence. >> the words dangerous imply that there is something physically violent about him . physically violent about him. when something is dangerous, you're going to get hurt physically or say the system was dangerous. i'm not saying that that wording is wrong. i'm. what i am saying is that that is the exact sort of language that could lead to people doing things like this. >> emma woolf well, i just wanted to say in terms of, well, thinking about danger , how brave thinking about danger, how brave those secret service men are to run our women as well. a woman there to run towards that in the moment when you do not actually know what's happening, what is going down, and whether there are 20 people out there with machine guns. i thought they were. i thought that was absolutely amazing. but it's astonishing to me how how polarised the world of politics is right now, that even an assassination, an assassination attempt, which is what last night was , it's being weaponized night was, it's being weaponized and it is being weaponized by the left . people are already the left. people are already saying it was staged. it was this. it was that. it's absolutely ludicrous. we just need to. >> or is it? that's that's a

few. that's a few cranks on twitter. come on. >> that's not a few cranks. people are saying that he has almost caused this because of his incitement to violence, which is absolutely outrageous . which is absolutely outrageous. everybody has a everybody has a right to be able to stand up at a public rally and make speeches and talk to their supporters in their thousands without being fired. >> i think you're mischaracterising the mainstream left, certainly in america. all of the people you know, there is already a sense, jonathan, that this is somehow donald trump's fault, that he brought this upon himself, even in your words . i himself, even in your words. i wouldn't say that it was his fault. >> you could say he is saying that it's dangerous and stuff. i'm saying that he is a dangerous politician, but a dangerous politician, but a dangerous politician, but a dangerous politician is very different . apply. sorry, sorry, different. apply. sorry, sorry, but using the word dangerous, i think and associating it with a politician who's just been assassinated almost feels like there's almost an acceptance and at all politics a little bit like that. >> his politics, i mean, i think it's normally the left that gets branded with the snowflake label. i think that the argument that you're advancing is quite snowflakey at the moment. i'm

saying i'm saying that i'm saying i'm saying that i'm saying that his politics are dangerous. >> i don't think the left are snowflakes at all. i think, on the contrary, i think they're the contrary, i think they're the very opposite of that. and i think hate—filled what nigel farage regressive left at the moment. >> like extremely that , you >> like extremely that, you know, the nastiest stuff at the moment is actually coming from the left or the i mean, look, i certainly i'm not here to represent anyone apart from myself. >> i'm saying that i completely condemn the attack on him. it shouldn't have happened. and i'm glad that he escaped relatively unscathed. it seems that it's never justifiable to attack your political opponents and this guy was actually. yes, physically. of course, this guy was actually a registered republican as far as we know. well, so a lot of them do that to get into the. well, i mean, that's in america, actually donate some money to a very left leaning cause a little bit before that as well. >> so, so, yes, but that's what you would do, wouldn't you? >> the point is, the point is that there are it's not something that we like talking about generally, but there are millions and millions of people in the world. it is not possible to go inside the minds of any of

them. actually, we don't . them. actually, we don't. >> maybe the broader issue is why people are walking around with guns in america. >> we don't, we don't. we can't even get inside the minds of some of the people closest to us sometimes. so we don't know what happens. we don't know what motivates people. political violence happens in very peaceful societies, in peaceful times. the former japanese peaceful societies, in peaceful times. the formerjapanese prime minister, in a country that's almost unheard of to have political violence , was political violence, was assassinated recently. so we can't just sort of blame other people for what he did. that doesn't mean that we can't sort of separate it from a political context, but i think we have to be really careful that people do do very, very bad things . and do very, very bad things. and it's not always because of what we need to be careful that sometimes when people use language and say, oh no , well, language and say, oh no, well, it's not that it was his fault, but he did say this, that and the other because there's a level of attribute of blame towards what has happened to that person. >> i think that is, and a lot of people don't even see that they're doing that. so i'm just pointing out that if you are, you know, if you are talking in that way and saying, oh, well, he's he's dangerous and this, that and the other, it does feel like you're attributing a little bit of simply a symptom. the

other breath saying, oh, well, no, no, i think that no, it's absolutely legitimate. >> we have to separate this out. it's vital to separate out attacking people for their politics and attacking people can carry on with this in just moment. >> but we've got to go to the news. so i've got to stop, stop, stop you there. but you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, are the tories dead in the water? the infighting is just endless. but first, let's get your latest news headlines. >> nana, thanks very much and good afternoon to you. it's just coming up to 3:34. >> and of course, the top story this afternoon is that donald trump has now thanked people for their thoughts and prayers after he was shot during an assassination attempt last night. video footage shows the moment that gunfire rang out, sparking panic in the crowd as secret service agents swarmed the former president. >> take a listen if you want to really see something. >> that said, take a look at what happened over.

>> dramatic scenes there from pennsylvania. >> last night, just as donald trump was speaking, he was shot at. the fbi has now confirmed the alleged gunman , 20 year old the alleged gunman, 20 year old thomas matthew crooks, was shot at the scene. >> he has now died. it's understood he was on the roof of a building nearby. >> one spectator was also killed. >> two others are now in a critical condition in the white house. president joe biden has responded to the assassination attempt and speaking last night in delaware, he condemned the attack against his political opponent . opponent. >> there is no place in america for this kind of violence. it's sick. it's sick at. the bottom line is the trump rally was a rally that he should have been able to be conducted peacefully without any problem. but the idea, the idea that there's

political violence or violence in america like this is just unheard of. it's just not appropriate. we everybody, everybody must condemn it. >> in sport, the princess of wales has arrived at the men's wimbledon final alongside her daughter, princess charlotte. >> princess catherine will present either novak djokovic or carlos alcaraz with the trophy on centre court later. it's her second public appearance following her cancer diagnosis, and she earlier made a brief return to the public spotlight. you may remember last month at trooping the colour, carlos alcaraz currently leading that match on centre court and england are hoping to go one further than their ,2,021 final when the squad faced spain in tonight's final in berlin ahead of the big game. sir keir starmer has praised england's footballers, saying they've made the country proud in that letter to gareth southgate and the team , to gareth southgate and the team, the prime minister emphasised their graft and hard work , their graft and hard work, wishing them the very best and if successful, a win tonight

would be england's first trophy since 1966. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm sam francis, back for another update at 4:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you. sam. coming up has labours that raid on schools gone too far? but next are the tories dead in the water? this is

gb news. yeah. so, coming up in the great british debate this hour, i'll be asking whether your view of donald trump has changed after

what happened to him. but welcome back. if you've just tuned in, it's coming up to 39 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and we are in the midst of the clash as the fallout from the clash as the fallout from the election continues, attention is turning to who will be the next leader of the conservative party. does anyone care? rishi sunak continues to head up the party, but the infighting as to who will take over seems to be endless. so are the tories dead in the water? well, joining me are my clashes journalist jonathan lewis, who's a broadcaster emma woolf emma woolf. >> i think the tories actually have an opportunity right now. they have five years of enforced, you know , opposition. enforced, you know, opposition. right. they need they should use this time to rebuild, to come together, to sort out all these problems, this endless slow motion kind of nervous breakdown they've been having for months now, this endless infighting, the navel gazing, the postmortems. and i respect suella braverman and many of the

things she said. the other day she did a very interesting interview with gb news that that was, you know, a lot of what she said is true. but this endless kind of rehashing the post—mortem, what went wrong, who did what to when the latest is liz truss in today's sunday telegraph saying rishi sunak cost me my seat. she liz truss liz truss is the first former prime minister to lose her seat since the ever swing since the 19305. since the ever swing since the 1930s. right. since the ever swing since the 19305. right. it's since the ever swing since the 1930s. right. it's not a labour. yeah yeah, since the 1930s. she says that rishi sunak cost her her seat by blaming for her trashing the economy and causing global rate of mortgage rates to crash, she says rishi sunak cost 251 of those mps. those tory mps that lost their seat, he cost them their seats. this needs to stop. there is still an appetite in the country for a real conservative party this is the time. this is the time for them to sort quietly, go into another room, stop leaking, stop having these public fights, stop leaking everything and sort

themselves out and come back stronger. >> in five years, do you think they can do that, jonathan? >> look, i think that anything is possible . what we've seen in is possible. what we've seen in the last five, ten years of politics is that things can change very rapidly. no 1 in 2019 would have predicted a labour landslide in 2024. so what do we know about what's going to happen 2029? anyone who says that they know confidently is lying to other people or to themselves. having said that, we do know some things for certain, namely that both parties will need to assemble coalitions of voters for the next election . voters for the next election. labour has done that very effectively at this last election, but they've also overlooked one quite key element of a traditional labour coalition, which is their core base progressives, sort of , you base progressives, sort of, you know, liberals and urban people, many of whom are voted for independent candidates, you know, jeremy corbyn, islington for example, the green party, lib dems, a lot of muslim voters abandoned them for obvious reasons. and so labour might have to depend on those voters. so labour is going to have to

talk about this as well. but obviously the most important discussion is going to be the conservatives, because they are languishing at their lowest ever position. so the conservatives have really, really difficult terrain ahead because either they conclude that reform is the way forward and they kind of misguidedly assume that you can treat votes as lego bricks and just sort of stack the reform votes on top of the tory pile and magically win all those seats back, which is complete nonsense . people voted for nonsense. people voted for reform because they wanted to vote for reform, and there's no evidence they won't vote reform again. and a lot of conservatives stayed home. the conservatives stayed home. the conservatives lost. those reform voters were not just tories by default. they were. they voted reform for a reason. but if they do go towards those reform voters, they are going to entrench the lib dem labour gains because those voters, the more liberal minded voters, the sort of blue wall they're not going to come back to a very right wing conservative party. they want a centrist conservative party. >> well, ultimately, though, and of course, the centre ground is probably the way forward for most parties, centre right. >> but centre right there is still that demand. >> let's just remind ourselves

that only he only got 20% of the vote. they didn't . exactly. so. vote. they didn't. exactly. so. so there are many voters who just simply didn't vote. >> exactly. and i would actually slightly push back on what you're saying that reform voters, there are actually many, many homeless conservative voters who just felt they couldn't vote for this conservative party. but there is still a real appetite for a centre right alternative to laboun centre right alternative to labour. yeah, but the point, you know , and that. know, and that. >> but can they be trusted though? because even though rishi sunak is the leader now they're going to get a new leader. can they be trusted that the leader that they get then they don't like it and they're going to change the leader again. and then can they be trusted to listen to their members, which they didn't listen to before, or shift things around constantly? people got sick and tired of it. >> of course, they got sick and tired of it. and that's why i'm saying the infighting, the embarrassment has to stop this constantly looking at themselves rather than looking at what voters are actually asking them for, asking for a genuine small c conservative alternative to laboun c conservative alternative to labour, and that there is that demand. but as jonathan says , demand. but as jonathan says, it's a long time. five years, a long a few months is a long time. it'll be a completely different political landscape by 2029.

look, we don't even know what's going to happen in november in america. >> we shall see. because it was like getting seasick on the titanic. >> and a lot can change in reform as well. and that'll that will then scatter the cards. >> in 2001, labour could repeat a landslide. i mean, we simply don't know how a labour government and indeed. >> well we'll see, we'll see. but at the moment we're shuddering to that. they seem to be decimating their voting base by some of the things that they're coming out with already. so i think they need to watch themselves on that. i'm not sure. well, i mean, i'd say the vat on private schools is causing an issue. there's a school for the blind that might be closing down as a result. and other schools like that, that is kind of their kind of base. they don't want to upset teachers as well. >> they're still being unclear about trans issues and about young people . young people. >> yeah. so that's women and that's young. i mean, they need massive problems about solar farms, death farms, solar farms decimating our agricultural land . decimating our agricultural land. >> and what that what about nimbyism and planning, which we all agree there needs to be more. well, the whole issue of net zero green and green energy and in sort of building more houses, that's true.

>> but they have shown themselves to be nimbys whilst calling for everybody else. >> i'm not sure that's true. that was an allegation that i know. >> there's many of them in . the >> there's many of them in. the cabinet who have. it's not allegations. these are things that have happened to cabinet. sorry to people who are in the labour cabinet who have said things and then they're obviously double backing on it now. so but coming up after the assassination attempt on donald trump, who would want to a politician? i'll tell what i think in my niggle.

well, lots of you have been getting in touch with your views, there we go. i've got russ about you. to jonathan, jonathan. liz condemning political violence and then being divisive by calling trump dangerous. is there no end to the left's self—indulgence? >> jonathan, this is absolutely nonsense. and i think this is actually dangerous, if i may say, because what we are using dangerous again. >> yes, yes. this is yeah . >> yes, yes. this is yeah. >> i'm saying that comment, the

implications of that comment are dangerous because it suggests that we can't attack the politics of our opponents without inciting violence. no, it's not inciting violence. >> but i think he's pointing out the use of the word dangerous so that that is a divisive term. i mean, you know, like, you can call out something for being divisive, but then if you then go and use terms that are divisive yourself, then that doesn't work out. >> people in this studio spent six weeks saying that keir starmer was dangerous . starmer was dangerous. >> no, jonathan, can i just come in? no. can i just come in because i have said starmer is a danger to some of these policies are a danger to women. i have said some of these labour policies are dangerous to children. yeah, but i think it's different. and i'm just, you know, i'm just saying from from my perspective, i think dangerous elevates him to a level. it takes it to a level. whereas when we're talking about specific policies, we can say this is dangerous for women , you this is dangerous for women, you know, no safe spaces or whatever. so i think maybe it's about being specific about policies that you are talking. i think it's no, you're making trump sound like a dangerous man. >> we're going to the ballot

box, not in not the barrel of the gun. >> that's true. absolutely. >> that's true. absolutely. >> we would all agree with that. but i just think the word dangerous is divisive. lizzie lizzie sinclair says, i think labour and the tories are both the same. awful. neither has the british people at heart. only their selfish needs and agenda. it's like the feudal system has returned. nothing left for the peasants. we need change badly. and somebody else saying that i voted for reform because i wanted to vote for reform, not because i was going to vote for the tories. right. so let's carry on with this house. labour seat that raid on schools gone too far now, the royal society for blind children has reportedly warning that the chancellor, rachel reeves, has planned to tax private schools, could force specialist schools to close like this one. so joining me now, jonathan lewis and emma woolf jonathan liz. >> well, i think that that's a very worrying story. obviously labouris very worrying story. obviously labour is not bringing in this policy immediately. there is going to be a grace period of one year. and i very much expect in that period that labour will will consult widely, including with these specialist schools. and i'd be amazed if there wasn't an exemption carved out ,

wasn't an exemption carved out, because the last thing labour would want is to harm the future of some of the most vulnerable children in the country. so i'd be absolutely amazed if that, if there wasn't sort of a detailed policy proposal that came from that, what to exempt certain schools to exempt to exempt certain schools , or to kind of certain schools, or to kind of give extra funding for students who might be affected by this or whatever it might be, they're trying to raise money. >> so that's in total contradiction with the aim of the policy. >> the majority of children in private schools are not in specialist. these specialist schools hold on so obviously there are some emma woolf to talk about extra funding in that casual way when special educational needs. >> and i know about this stuff is they are crying out for extra provision for financial thing. let's just be clear, the majority of private school parents, a lot of private school parents, a lot of private school parents are not loaded. yeah, they're making sacrifices in order, like my parents said, like your parents did to send their kids to private school. that's a choice they've made. instead of foreign holidays, new cars, satellite tv , whatever it cars, satellite tv, whatever it is. so a lot of parents. but can we just be really clear about children? there are many

children? there are many children with sensory disabilities with impairments blind , deaf, hearing, other blind, deaf, hearing, other language, speech and language delay who are provided for within independent schools. it's going to be really hard to pick those out and say, oh, they don't have to pay vat. children are going to suffer. this is a really unpleasant politics of envy kind of policy from labour. it's targeting. it's affecting children. there are children. yeah, i know we've discussed this before. there are children who and i know some who are going to be pulled out of private schools because their parents cannot make that extra , parents cannot make that extra, extra stretch. >> also the provision, i'm wondering if they've got any provisions for these children. >> look, labour has won the this election in a landslide. this clearly in as much as any government has a mandate for something. they have a mandate for this policy, which is one of their flagship policies. >> so children suffer. >> so children suffer. >> listen to just let me finish. so clearly this policy is going to take place. the thing now is to take place. the thing now is to make it as equitable for everyone. and if there are these issues where these vulnerable disabled children risk losing out, they very much expect and

hope the government will resolve that. >> all right. well, listen, jonathan, liz and emma woolf, thank you very much. you will be back, though in about 20 minutes or so as we continue with our debates. do not go anywhere. this is gb news coming up. i'm nana akua still to come. the great british debate. i'm asking has this assassination attempt changed your opinion on trump? plus nana nicole, who on earth would want to be a politician? that's the question i'm asking gbnews.com/yoursay for your thoughts. but first, let's get an update with your weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello there! this is your latest gb news, weather forecast provided by the met office. some of us so far has been dominated by areas of low pressure, and we've got more of them on the way over the next few days. this one out in the atlantic is geanng one out in the atlantic is gearing itself up to arrive for the start of the new working week, and we've still got one out in the north sea that has been providing drizzly outbreaks of rain for parts of northern

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>> hello. good afternoon, and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and for the next two akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine , it's theirs. and of it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it is yours. we'll be debating , discussing and at debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. so coming up we'll be discussing whether anyone would want to be a politician when there are so someone, so many become targets. thatis someone, so many become targets. that is in my niggle. why would anyone subject themselves to hundreds of cosmetic surgeries as well? i've got a special outside guest, she will be talking about a special comic book that she has created. and then i'd love to hear your thoughts . gbnews.com/yoursay. thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay. but first, let's get your latest news headlines .

news headlines. >> nana. thanks very much and good afternoon to you. it's exactly 4:00 on the top. story today is, of course , from the today is, of course, from the us. donald trump now thanking people for their thoughts and prayers after he was shot during an assassination attempt last night. video footage shows the moment that gunfire rang out, sparking panic in the crowd as secret service agents swarmed the former president. take a listen if you want to really see something . something. >> that said, take a look at what happened over. >> well, dramatic footage they're showing donald trump as he defiantly punched the air last night following that attack. attempted assassination. the fbi now confirming the alleged gunman, 20 year old thomas thomas. matthew crooks ,

thomas thomas. matthew crooks, was shot at the scene. it's understood that he was on the roof of the building nearby. we now know he was a registered republican who has also donated to a democrat supporting organisation, though his motive for the attack remains unclear at this stage, one spectator was also killed. two others are in a critical condition and president joe biden has responded to the assassination attempt. speaking last night in delaware, he condemned the attack against his political opponent. >> there is no place in america for this kind of violence. it's sick . it's sick at. the bottom sick. it's sick at. the bottom line is that the trump rally was a rally that he should have been able to be conducted peacefully, without any problem. but the idea, the idea that there's political violence or violence in america like this is just unheard of. it's just not appropriate. and everybody, everybody must condemn it . everybody must condemn it. >> prime minister sir keir starmer is among many world leaders condemning last night's attack. he says he's appalled by

the news in the us. vice president kamala harris says she's relieved that trump is not seriously injured while billionaire elon musk says he'll continue to fully endorse the former president and hopes for his rapid recovery. and here, the reform leader, nigel farage, says trump's assassination attempt is another example of what he's called liberal intolerance . intolerance. >> you left liberal elite have this sort of form of intellectual superiority where they believe they're better human beings than those on the centre right, and that is what's run through media education. and thatis run through media education. and that is at the heart of this problem. liberal intolerance. and i did say to him, if i hadnt and i did say to him, if i hadn't been elected to parliament, i'd be with him this weekend. so i would have been at that rally, if i, if i decided to not stand for parliament. but i've now decided , tom, in the i've now decided, tom, in the light of what's happened, that i will fly out to america this week, i will go and see my friend, and i'll do it. you know, i'll listen to his

acceptance speech at the convention on thursday. and i'll do it not just as a friend, but i'll do it because we have to stand up for democracy. we have to stand up for people to be able to campaign. if we don't, we're absolutely sunk . we're absolutely sunk. >> nigel farage there, speaking to us earlier today. well, in other news, the foreign secretary, david lammy, is calling for an immediate ceasefire in gaza on his first trip to the middle east since being in the role. his call for a pause in fighting comes as israel's reporting the hamas commander in khan younis has been killed in an airstrike. the attack hit the southern city, with gazan officials claiming up to 90 civilians died during the strike. it's unclear, though, at this stage whether the hamas chief and any other senior leaders were killed in the attacks , and in sport, england attacks, and in sport, england are hoping to go one further in their than their are hoping to go one further in theirthan their ,2,021 are hoping to go one further in their than their ,2,021 final, when the squad faced spain in tonight's final in berlin . these tonight's final in berlin. these are the live pictures coming to us from the streets of berlin as

an estimated 11,000 spanish fans dressed in red and yellow with flags draped across them, take to the streets , marching en to the streets, marching en masse to the stadium ahead of the big game. sir keir starmer has praised england's footballers, saying they've made the country proud and in that letter to gareth southgate and the team, the prime ministers emphasised their graft and hard work, wishing them the very best. gareth southgate and his players are hoping to win england's first trophy since 1966 and go down as legends. >> i'm not a believer in fairy tales, but i am a believer in dreams and, we've had big dreams. we've felt the need and the importance of that. but then, you know, you have to make those things happen . those things happen. >> and finally, an update on the centre court match taking place at wimbledon, the men's final. it's a rematch of last year.

it's a rematch of last year. it's now into its third set as defending champion carlos alcaraz is taking on seven time wimbledon champion novak djokovic. the 21 year old spaniard stunned centre court earlier into silence as he clinched the first two sets. djokovic, though, is pushing back. it's now three three in the third set, hoping to turn the third set, hoping to turn the tables on last summer's dramatic five set loss. the centre court showdown is novak's 37th grand slam final and if he can reclaim the wimbledon crown, he'll be awarded the trophy by the princess of wales, who is watching on on centre court. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm sam francis more for you in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. welcome. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. welcome who'd be a politician now? there have been a litany of events that would put even the most hard hearted of people off the job in the uk, we've had the murder of jo cox. she served as a member of parliament for batley and spen from may 2015 until she was murdered in june 2016. she was a member of the labour party and more recently the murder of sir david amess. in 2021. he was the conservative mp for southend west. now i remember that day well as i'd just come off a show on channel five whilst working @gbnews and was called vile by gary lineker, who tweeted that it out to his 8.2 million followers. now i received a tirade of abuse simply for supporting priti patel's migration plan. death threats galore . imagine if i'd been an galore. imagine if i'd been an actual politician . david was actual politician. david was fatally stabbed at a

constituency surgery at belfairs methodist church hall in leigh on sea in essex, and nowhere is safe. i mean, we've had politicians hounded outside their own doorsteps only a few months ago, a group of pro—palestinian protesters thought that it was to okay protest outside tobias ellwood's home. totally unacceptable. the large group descended on his home with megaphones, chanting ceasefire and free palestine . ceasefire and free palestine. rishi sunak had his house covered with black fabric by greenpeace activists who appeared neither green nor peaceful, and sir keir starmer's leader of the labour party and our now prime minister, had to deal with being harassed by just stop oil outside his home in a pretend christmas carol concert. the campaign trail is totally unsafe as nigel farage discovered leader of reform uk after an attention seeking onlyfans model thought that it was a good idea to chuck milkshake at him. in the lead up to the last election, jo brand,

a so—called comedian on our pubuc a so—called comedian on our public service broadcaster, the bbc, in 2009, even thought it was funny to joke about throwing battery acid over him . battery acid over him. disgraceful. the bbc ruled. it went beyond what was appropriate for a radio four comedy show, and if it's not direct physical attack, it's online and mental abuse. boris johnson was vilified repeatedly by the pubuc vilified repeatedly by the public and indeed many elements of the for media partygate, it was never ending. pretty much every politician that i know has had death threats, so this latest assassination attempt on donald trump comes as no great surprise and unfortunately comes after us president joe biden said it was time to put trump in the bull's eye. in his statement on truth, social, donald trump said, in this moment, it is more important than ever that we stand united and show our true character as americans, remaining strong and determined and not allow evil to win. and of course, in response to the

incident, joe biden said that there was no room for political violence. >> there is no place in america for this kind of violence. it's sick . it's sick at the bottom sick. it's sick at the bottom line is that the trump rally was a rally that he should have been able to be conducted peacefully, without any problem. but the idea, the idea that there's political violence or violence in america like this is just unheard of. it's just not appropriate. we everybody, everybody must condemn it . everybody must condemn it. >> well, donald trump has come out fighting and thank god he lived to tell the tale. it's moments like this that you realise the passion of politicians risking their lives to change the narratives. now, i'm not saying that we should all feel sorry for them, but what i am saying is that regardless of your politics, you should be able to debate with civility. and if you weren't a fan of donald trump before this, you can't deny his love for his country. he's a true patriot. biden or trump? i know who i'd want in my corner.

biden or trump? i know who i'd want in my corner . so before we want in my corner. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, has this assassination attempt changed your opinion of donald trump? now, regardless of where you stand on him, the footage of a defiant donald trump fist pumping to the crowd after being shot is a powerful image. so what are your thoughts for the great british debate? i'm asking? has this assassination attempt changed your opinion of him? then, at 450 as well, few time will cross over live to los angeles to speak to paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, to get the latest and more updates from the us. stay tuned at 5:00 right outside guests now i'll be joined by a special celebrity. she used to be known as the human ken doll and now has a comic book coming out, who do you think she is? that's coming up in the next hour as ever. send me your thoughts, post your comments. gbnews.com/yoursay .

comments. gbnews.com/yoursay. all right. let's welcome again to my panel , all right. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and author christine hamilton, and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right i'm going to start with christine hamilton. yes. yeah. so what do you think politicians you should know you were in in the, in the field there . your husband is an ex there. your husband is an ex politician . politician. >> well i mean it's a very different situation now from what it was then. >> i mean, i first started working in politics in the 1971 and things were quite different. there was none of this 24 hour news. there was no social media there. the internet wasn't rampant like it is today. so i think it's certainly got a hell of a lot more dangerous. we used to think that that sort of thing only went on in the united states, and then you've listed the people this jo cox being the outstanding one, and david amess, but other mps have been attacked in their surgeries. they weren't killed . there was they weren't killed. there was one mp. i desperately been trying to remember his name. he was attacked with, some rather medieval instrument. i can't remember what it was. if anybody out there can remember, do let

me know. >> so, you know, they do face threats and during the election, you know, we had nigel with the milkshake, which could have been far worse. >> to be honest. i wouldn't go into politics now. i really wouldn't. i think it's horrendous. and we're going back to sort of centuries ago when people used to solve everything with physical means. and it was fight, fight, fight. with physical means. and it was fight, fight, fight . and there's fight, fight, fight. and there's no should have absolutely no place . and donald trump is place. and donald trump is i haven't changed my view of him at all. i mean, he of the two, he's undoubtedly the one to be leading america. and the way what i was thinking of when i saw the way he came back fighting instantly was like margaret thatcher when the ira tried to kill her with the brighton bomb the next morning , brighton bomb the next morning, she was dressed impeccably. as always. m&s had kitted them all out. they'd all lost their clothes and everything and she said we go on as normal. this is the day i was not supposed to see. we go on as normal and that is the only way to do it. otherwise the terrorists, the assassins, etc. win. but no, i think it's very worrying. how can a politician just walk down the street any longer, a

prominent politician without needing endless security and that cuts them off from their constituents? >> danny kelly ronald reagan when an assassination attempt ronald reagan, the 1980s, ronald reagan just before he was put under the knife to remove bullets, said to the surgeon, said to the theatre team, i hope your republicans a bit of comedy there. >> you know, he's having a laugh. and the surgeon actually said today, sir, we're all republicans. now, i don't think that i don't think that would have taken place today. i think there's so much hostility . i there's so much hostility. i think social media is a massive contributory factor to this. people are whipped up into a frenzy on both sides of things to get to your to address your question , i think you've got to question, i think you've got to have real courage to become a politician nowadays, almost to the point that it's just not worth it. you know, i disagree with you about about how much they should be paid. i think they should be paid. i think they should be paid. i think they should be paid a lot more. >> well, do you know, actually, after this, i'm actually reconsidering my position on that. >> i'm actually reconsidering it. you know, i think they are paid quite a bit, but actually i will be paying them more simply for danger money. yeah, that's that's where i'd be going with

it , because i think, that's where i'd be going with it, because i think, having that's where i'd be going with it , because i think, having seen it, because i think, having seen a lot of this , i'm slightly a lot of this, i'm slightly changing my mind, although i do think the £93,000 is quite a bit of money. >> and is it 90? i thought it was 80 or 79. >> it's over over 90. >> it's over over 90. >> i actually plus all the bits. >> i actually plus all the bits. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so. so therefore with all the bits and everything else, i'm still, you know, it's a dangerous job. now it's become more dangerous. should they be paid more? half of me feels maybe they should. but then when i remember all the perks and everything else, i sort of go back to the thought, the mental health, the toll it must take on a politician's mental health. >> because as i understand, i think they're all probably on social media. it's part of what you have to be. yeah, yeah. if you have to be. yeah, yeah. if you want to be a constituent mp, you want to be a constituent mp, you need to be contacted. and twitter's the thing i was thinking maybe a compromise would to be not on twitter, but the mental health, the toll it must take on you to just check you . i'm not must take on you to just check you. i'm not on social media, but i can imagine if i was, people would be really nasty about me and i'm not a public figure. >> well, you see, i went along with an idea that priti patel had. >> i said, yeah, that's fair enough. i agree with that. you know, you could fair enough do that. >> and lineker got involved and

lineker. >> lineker decided, gary lineker decided to put his oar in. and you know, i think the way it was cupped you know, i think the way it was clipped kind of didn't show the full the context, the full context, because it was actually a pretty patel policy. it wasn't my idea and i'm simply saying, yeah, i'll go along with it. some people may say that doesn't make a difference. i don't care. but the bottom line is the amount of vitriol i got for just going along with something that somebody else had come up with. >> it's too easy, isn't it, for people to hide behind the complete anonymity. nobody knows who they are. they have some ridiculous name on their twitter handle , mine is perfectly handle, mine is perfectly obvious. i'm brit battle axe. well, that's obviously me, isn't it? but a lot of people, you have no idea who it is. you don't know if it's a man, a woman, a boss, somebody who's mentally insane. and they just think it's fun to have a go at you and they think, well, yes, i'll get her. and it's that. then with in a few sad cases, spills over into wanting to do physical violence and look at j.k. rowling, for example, she's she's had death threats and goodness knows what. obviously nothing to do with politics, but to do with the politics. yes. not not sorry , not party not not sorry, not party politics, but to do with work, politics, but to do with work,

politics and everything. and i, its constituent mps are supposed to be freely available to their constituents. they're supposed to have you know, surgeries where anybody can go and see them. it's a whole point of our democracy. and it used to be one of the pillars of it . that democracy. and it used to be one of the pillars of it. that is one reason why we don't have, why we stick with first past the post, because it gives an mp a direct connection with all their constituents. but if they become terrified of the constituents, terrified of the constituents, terrified of the constituents, terrified of meeting them without an armed guard. >> farage you had milkshake and everything thrown at your brand. disgraceful. >> oh jo brand, i was terribly, i was awful, jo brand getting away with it. >> she should never appear. >> she should never appear. >> knuckles. well but that's all. >> she's rubber knuckles. they did say that it was beyond what was acceptable, but that's. >> but she's back on the beat that side of politics that can smear and besmirch this side of politics. farage is right. because. because they believe they have the moral superiority and they're better people than they can do. what the hell they want to people on the right side of politics because they're looking after vulnerable demographics on this side, so they can besmirch , they can they can besmirch, they can libel, they can slander. and in jo brand's case, you can encourage battery acid to be

thrown. >> well, i mean, obviously she's not here to defend themselves, so she can't said but she did say that. and actually i'm simply referring what the what the bbc themselves has said that it was went beyond what was acceptable. >> so but she's back on the bbc isn't she. well, yeah. >> i mean, to me, if i'd said something like that, i don't think i'd be working still, i don't i don't think you would know. i wouldn't have a job. >> but if you said it at the bbc as a comic about like corbyn, for example, like battery acid. >> no, no, no, i just think it's totally unacceptable. something like that should never be said. >> you'd lost your job. i think >> you'd lost yourjob. i think if it was, i think way round. >> i just think it's absolutely terrible. i think it's one of the worst things i've ever heard, actually, that has done that person still, but, you know, continues to work in that capacity. >> just a tiny final on trump. i mean, i think he showed great courage why he was allowed to i don't know. but he showed great courage to stand up. he had no idea whether the fellow was still there pointing at him, nor did his service. >> security service. no, i shouldn't have let him. >> i shouldn't have let him. but he did, and he did. >> you know he did because it was really important to him. see, look. and like i said, joe biden versus trump. trump any day. i mean, that's i wanted somebody to support me. and then that's who i would be choosing. >> the undecided might now go to

i think i think he's secured his place in the white house with knobs on. >> well, we shall see. we'll be discussing that in just a moment, a moment's time. gbnews.com forward slash. you'll say this is a gb news well live on tv, online and on digital radio coming up world view. we'll cross live to los angeles to get the latest from the politics people podcast host on donald trump being shot. but next it's time for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, has your opinion of trump changed after this assassination attempt? i've got to pull up right now on x, asking you that very question. has your opinion on trump

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thoughts. meg says society has no respect for authority. it's a breakdown in law and order and it's getting worse. this is obviously on my monologue we talked about politicians and who would be one. john says i admired trump before this assassination attempt. his response wasn't surprising. yeah, interesting. so some people sort of liked him a little bit, but now love him. now i just i just think he's a true patriot after that. that's incredible that he was able to get up and show people that he still is passionate about his country. but it's time now for the great british debate. the sound i'm asking has the assassination attempt to change your opinion of him just moments after being shot in the air in an assassination attempt, donald trump got up from the ground and fist pumped with blood on his face, saying, fight , fight, face, saying, fight, fight, fight! regardless of your view of him. it's a powerful image. so i'm asking, has this assassination attempt kind of changed the way you see him or your opinion of him joining me now, writer and broadcaster emma woolf political commentator jonathan lis , former democratic jonathan lis, former democratic strategist spencer critchley, and former adviser on britain to the us congress, lee cohen. i'm

going to start with lee cohen immediately. lee cohen. wow, what an awful thing that's happened. but i'm so glad he's trump told trump is alive. >> no absolutely not. and you know, people have so little faith in our american institutions , mainly because institutions, mainly because democrats have weaponized them that they are willing to take existential narratives served up by the biden campaign, such as, you know, democracy will end if they elect donald trump and it's these kinds of rhetoric that lead to awful consequences. and they've led to an awful consequence . thank goodness. consequence. thank goodness. that was, a near miss, though, tragically, there was a casualty and, others injured. but it could have been much worse. and, we certainly pray for those and keep them in our thoughts who have been wounded, including, of course, the president himself. >> spencer critchley spencer .

>> spencer critchley spencer. >> spencer critchley spencer. >> it was an absolutely terrible event. and i think that one of the most important features of democracy that we must try to protect is that it's possible to be a strong opponent of a political candidate. as i am an opponent of former president trump , and to be horrified by trump, and to be horrified by any attempt to use violence to resolve political differences. so when i saw that this was breaking across the, news wire, so to speak, my heart sank and i felt sick at the thought, because any attack on any political figure, if political figure is an attack on democracy itself, and also it means literally nobody is safe because it could have been him this time. >> it could be somebody else, another time from a totally different party. jonathan. >> liz, i agree with what spencer just >> liz, i agree with what spencerjust said. >> liz, i agree with what spencer just said. an >> liz, i agree with what spencerjust said. an attack on spencer just said. an attack on a democratic candidate is an attack on democracy. it should be condemned absolutely vociferously by all sides and it

has been condemned by democrats. it won't change my opinion of donald trump because donald trump is a politician who presumably has the same beliefs today that he did yesterday. and i think it's absolutely vital that we separate out the legitimacy of attacking our political opponents by what they say and do in the most forceful terms, but to condemn absolutely any attempt to inflict physical violence on them, we must defeat our opponents at the ballot box, not with a shotgun. do you take lee cohen's comments, though, that the rhetoric that is used often feels like it can incite people who maybe aren't with it to do things like no. and i think it's very premature to start, accusing different people of inciting this one individual. we don't no, no, no, no, i'm not saying you are. i'm not. >> i'm not saying i'm not, but i'm asking about the rhetoric itself and made the point about rhetoric. >> yes, but i think that the republicans have been far more guilty of inflammatory rhetoric over the years than democrats.

that's not to say that all sides shouldn't look at the language they may have used in the past, but to say that this is somehow the monopoly of the democrats is ludicrous. >> okay. emma woolf. >> okay. emma woolf. >> yeah, i don't think this has changed anybody's. >> oh. hold on. yes. sorry. it's coming back on that. yeah. >> i was going to say that's rubbish because the gentleman just before me said we need to defeat them at the ballot box. the democrats have done everything in their power to ensure that president trump to try to prevent him from coming to the ballot box, you know, weaponizing the justice system to, to, bring these, these trials against him that that cost him time. campaigning, that would, try to prevent him from ever coming to the ballot box in the first place. >> trump tried to overthrow the us government. i mean, heaven's sake.i us government. i mean, heaven's sake. i mean, he accused the election of having been stolen. every single case he brought was thrown out, including by judges that he appointed. so it's just there's absolutely no substance to that whatsoever. >> well, i don't know whether that's true. emma woolf. >> yeah. i don't think this has

changed anybody's view on trump. if you loved him before, you love him even more now. i thought his reaction, whatever you think of him was astonishing. it was brave. and it was it was powerful. it was a very, very powerful moment. and it's already we've seen the photographs that that image will be on millions oft photographs that that image will be on millions of t shirts already across america. it will be on caps, it'll be on posters. it is all over the place. and i think that trump's reaction in that split second, in that moment for going down as he's been trained to do, and then coming up again, i just think, you know, it tells us a lot about the man, >> well, even though your reaction could be that actually it's made you like him more, which it sounds like that's what you're saying. i'm talking about love. >> i'm talking about people who love trump. and you said i love him even more now. and i think that if you dislike trump, you dislike him, as jonathan does. and many, many people do across america, you dislike him even more now, i think. i don't think that assassination attempt yesterday should be weaponized in any way. >> i don't dislike him even more. i my feelings are unchanged about him. i'm glad that he didn't. he wasn't

assassinated. that doesn't change my opinions of him politically. it's grudging. >> it's grudging the way you're saying that you dislike him more than i disliked him is that if i may? >> yes , please. >> yes, please. >> yes, please. >> if i might. this is something i write and speak about a lot, and i think it's something i would really like to highlight at this moment. a big part of the division between supporters and opponents of donald trump comes down to whether you see the world of politics in terms of values like personal loyalty and trust in the person, or whether you believe in a system based on, more of a constitutional order, that's independent of the person. now, i'm not at this moment deciding for anybody which one is the right way to go , i lean towards right way to go, i lean towards the constitutional view. that's independent of the personality who happens to be occupying the position of authority. but this is one of those situations where you will never resolve that debate. if each side continues to argue from a completely different set of values. so i would say that everybody needs to understand that we're looking

not at a debate really, between the political left and right, at least in the united states. we're looking at a debate between two very different worldviews where things like truth and morality are measured by different standards and until we understand how different the world can look to the two different groups will continue to just shout past each other. >> yeah, that's a very powerful comment. there thank you for that, lee cohen, what do you think. >> well, i think if we're talking about morality and we can hardly put the democrats in a place of valuing morality when, president biden said as late as july 7th he was calling for trump to be put in the bull's eye, and then this happens, nary a week later, i mean, we can hardly say that they have the moral high ground on morality at that point. it's nana disregard. >> i can offer something as a political professional in response to that, if i might.

>> okay . give us a response. >> okay. give us a response. spencen >> okay. give us a response. spencer, please, >> yes . so spencer, please, >> yes. so again, the two sides are defining morality differently, which is my key point. but speaking as a political professional, the rapidity and uniformity of the, response with the bullseye, point is an indication of how the republican side is extremely disciplined and, well organised at, taking advantage of situations like this, if i may, that if you do a google search, you'll find that point about the bullseye comment showing up across, right wing media in the united states, as was the response immediately following the assassination attempt, where you saw some democratic politicians like jd vance, for example. blaming this on president biden's rhetoric, i would encourage people who do support president trump to try to be aware of the extent to which this is coordinated, these kinds of points, and maintain their ability to make up their own minds, hopefully based on a sceptical view, no matter where

the information is coming from, of the information itself, that is fair enough. >> but he did say it and you know, whilst he did, but this leads us the point. >> this leads us to the back and forth about president trump describing biden as evil and sick, and we won't have a country anymore. and calling him a fascist and a communist, encouraging this, purging the insurrection. on january seven, etc, etc. >> one second, i'm going to give leeco in the last sort of last word very briefly, and i'm going to come to you all and say whether yes or no, whether this has changed your opinion on him. and leeco only got about 10s president trump, president biden promised to reunify the country, and any way you slice it, a comment like, calling for trump to be put in the bull's eye is the absolute antithesis of that. >> it is demonisation and dehumanisation of the worst kind. >> okay , okay. so, jonathan, >> okay, okay. so, jonathan, liz, has this changed your opinion of trump? yes or no? no. emma woolf. yes or no ? no. emma woolf. yes or no? no. spencer critchley yes or no ? no. spencer critchley yes or no? no. and lee cohen yes or no ?

and lee cohen yes or no? >> no. but it's even encouraged me even further to see his grace under fire. >> yeah. so it's made you like him even more. all right. thank you.so him even more. all right. thank you. so much to all of you. really good to hear your thoughts. thank you so much. thank you so much, lee as well. he's now on holiday in france. he's now on holiday in france. he took out time to do this. i really appreciate that. and spencer critchley and of course emma woolf and of course jonathan lewis. brilliant. thank you. what are your thoughts? gbnews.com/yoursay coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate. this i'm asking has this assassination attempt changed your opinion of donald trump ? you'll hear the thoughts trump? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, christine hamilton and danny kelly. still to come. my and danny kelly. still to come. my outside guest. she's an absolute mystery. who is she? formerly known as the human ken doll. who are they? gbnews.com/yoursay first, let's get your latest news headlines with sam francis. >> nana, thank you very much. and good afternoon to you. it's just after 430 and the top story

this afternoon . melania trump this afternoon. melania trump has now said that her life was on the brink of devastating change due to the suspected assassination attempt on her husband, donald trump. last night, the former us president says a bullet pierced his ear after a gunman fired at him from after a gunman fired at him from a rooftop during a campaign rally in pennsylvania. one suspect, one spectator, was killed and the suspect was also killed. two others remain critically injured. this was the moment that gunfire rang out and secret service agents swarmed the former president . the former president. >> if you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened . at what happened. yes . yes. >> well, the fbi has confirmed

the alleged gunman, 20 year old thomas matthew crooks , was shot thomas matthew crooks, was shot and killed at the scene. we now know he was a registered republican who had also donated to a democrat supporting organisation. but his motive for the attack so far remains unclear. one spectator, as i said, was also killed. two others are still in a critical condition. also, just a quick update on two latest lines coming to us from the reuters news agency. it's believed that bomb making material has been found in a vehicle at the home of the suspect that is at this stage unconfirmed, but that is according to law enforcement officials in the us. we also believe that the gun recovered at the trump rally suspect's home was legally purchased by his father. again unconfirmed, but that coming to us from law enforcement sources, we will bnng enforcement sources, we will bring you much more on that as we get it. and confirm those details for you. well, the prime minister, sir keir starmer, is among world leaders condemning last night's attacks, saying he

was appalled in the us vice president kamala harris says she's relieved that trump is not seriously injured. billionaire elon musk has said he'll continue to fully endorse the former president and hopes for his rapid recovery. and here reform uk leader nigel farage says trump's assassination attempt is another example of liberal intolerance . the liberal intolerance. the princess of wales has arrived at the men's wimbledon final today alongside her daughter princess charlotte. that match still underway. princess catherine will present either novak djokovic or carlos alcaraz with the trophy on centre court later . the trophy on centre court later. it's her second public appearance following her cancer diagnosis, and you'll remember she made a brief return to the pubuc she made a brief return to the public spotlight last month at trooping the colour and finally , trooping the colour and finally, thousands of football fans have descended on berlin ahead of tonight's euro 2024 final against spain. england are hoping to beat their opponents to secure the trophy when the

game kicks off at 8:00 tonight. ahead of the big game . sir keir ahead of the big game. sir keir starmer has praised england's footballers, saying they've made the country proud. gareth southgate and his players are hoping to win their first trophy since 1966. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. much more on the breaking story coming to us from the united states throughout the rest of this afternoon, until then back to nana for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. 37 minutes after 4:00, this is gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, worldview will cross live to los angeles to get the latest on how americans are reacting to donald trump being shot. but next, it's time for the great british

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welcome back. this is gb news elianne. britain's election on news channel. not election is gone. now. the election is done. i'm nana akua. welcome. it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, has this assassination attempt changed your opinion of trump? it could have changed that you like him more or like him less , or not at all. the him less, or not at all. the image circulating around the world is, of course, donald trump fist pumping the air after this assassination attempt against him . it's very powerful. against him. it's very powerful. so what do you think? has this changed your opinion of him?

well, let's see what my panel make of that. joining me now, christine hamilton and danny kelly. danny kelly, i'm going to start with you. >> well, like the majority of gb news viewers, i'm going to speculate i'm quite warm towards donald trump. i don't loathe i don't hate him, many of his opponents, we touched on this earlier on. if you're on the left side of politics, it's easy to hate people on the right side of politics. you don't hate your opponents as much. i think that's just a broad observation. so if i was a swing voter undecided in america, i would warm towards donald trump. but i'm going to give you a domestic analogy. in 1958, the man united team were decimated in the munich air disaster. yeah, liverpool and manchester has always had a lot of rivalry in the cities. my grandparents started to support manchester united because of that tragedy. oh yeah, because the whole team was decimated. i think 8 or 9 players were killed, one of them terrible because he was facing backwards, wasn't he? yeah, yeah, a number of them did did survive . but but there was a lot survive. but but there was a lot of empathy and sympathy and goodwill towards. and i think that will apply to trump. >> do you think i do i mean he's of the two. i would far rather

trump was leading the western world than biden, to me that doesn't need saying. when you look at the catastrophe that the biden is just about walking catastrophe, i wouldn't want biden round for dinner, certainly wouldn't want to have him to stay for the weekend. i think he'd be a complete nightmare. but as leader of the western world and the american president , definitely trump. president, definitely trump. whether it's changed people's views hasn't changed my view. i'm impressed by the way he carried that off. there was nothing wimpish nothing . no nothing wimpish nothing. no screaming, no nothing. whereas there could have been. it must have been a very terrifying situation. i know he schooled in it what to do and down and all that, but nevertheless jolly terrifying for him it. those images are going to be. they are going to reinforce in people's views that he is a tough , strong views that he is a tough, strong 9”!!- views that he is a tough, strong guy. and do we need a tough , guy. and do we need a tough, strong guy in charge of america? >> yes, we do, because i'm wondering about other world leaders looking on, seeing that as well. so kim jong un and you know, the other the putin's

putin. yes. looking and seeing that trump is not going down without a fight. yeah. and i think for me personally that made me like him even more so in the respect that it's changed my view. i always thought trump was great anyway. i mean, i've never made a i've never pretended to anything else and a lot. i lost anything else and a lot. i lost a lot of friends saying that. i thought it was great. they're saying, oh, he's racist and all that. i'm like, no, i don't think he is. no, i don't. i watched him in the yeah, i think it's certainly enhanced his image, both with those who liked him anyway and those who were wobbling. >> there'll be an inquest into how his security detail handled that, because their job is to take a bullet for the former president and maybe the future president. and if you noticed in the firing line there was a five foot four female security there. >> she is on the screen. oh, no. she's gone. yeah. >> now, now that you know all the other lads were like six foot one, six foot two. trump's a tall guy. and in the firing line you should have had a six foot four body. >> well, look, let's see what the others say. a little tiny girl with a bun without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. should we go to

kidderminster ? let's have a chat kidderminster? let's have a chat with john reid. john reid has that changed your view of donald trump? did you like him? do you loathe him? what's the deal? >> it hasn't changed my opinion no one iota. >> the man is a buffoon. and if he's put in charge of america in the coming election, i, for one will be worried. i don't agree with his politics. i don't agree with his politics. i don't agree with the way he delivers his theories. i don't agree with him in any shape or form. so i'm sorry to disagree with both you and christine today. however, doesit and christine today. however, does it change my opinion? no, i wouldn't wish an attack like this on anybody. even my worst enemy . enemy. >> so yeah, i'm. >> i'm where i always was , but i >> i'm where i always was, but i don't like the man. >> i don't like the man. thank you very much. john reid in kidderminster, the home of the carpets. thank you so much. right well, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour. my great british debate i'm asking, is energy safe under labour? but next world view will speak to the host of politics people podcast, paul and get the latest from what's happening

well. good afternoon. if you've just tuned in. welcome. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. now, of course , it's, channel. now, of course, it's, let's travel over to the states because i want to have a chat with the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge, paul people podcast, paul duddridge, paul, thank you very much for joining me in response to the assassination attempt of donald trump. what has been the narrative there ? narrative there? >> very much. >> very much. >> i think the same as you've been demonstrating on the show today.look been demonstrating on the show today. look it's polarised opinion, as the opinion has always been polarised. >> i actually don't think people are changing sides at all. it's like you see tiktokers, for instance, bursting into tears because, donald trump survived. and so what we've got is just an amplification, a magnification of the support or the, lack of that was existent before the

assassination attempt. so it's being covered with reverence . being covered with reverence. look, i did i sent a tweet out. >> i'm nobody, but i sent a tweet out saying how long until they blame , the scum blame they blame, the scum blame donald trump for this. >> and within 24 hours, cnn were running items blaming trump in effect, for raising the temperature of the rhetoric that's actually resulted in this assassination attempt. and so people pretty much have gone to their corners as expected. it's just the, the spotlight is going to remain steadfastly on this story now for quite some time, picking it apart, dissecting it, etc. so donald trump is going to stay at the centre of the story. but i think that those who love him, love him more, those who despise him, despise him more . despise him, despise him more. >> it does seem that way, doesn't it? and the floating voters are still floating, so what? what are they saying then? what what what's what's the general gist of it? and is trump about to talk about this, or do

we know whether he's going to speak soon? >> yes, i think so. look, he's never been, shy at coming forward. >> he immediately, tweeted or truthsocial whatever he put a comment out, >> pretty soon after there was talk of him actually attending the, ufc fight last night. there was bated breath waiting for him to arrive there because he was supposed to fly in to do that. remember? it's the republican convention this week, so he's going to be, officially nominated as the he's going to be become the official candidate for the. we all think he's already the candidate, but actually it doesn't happen officially until the convention this week. so he's going to be attending that. there's already video of him coming down the steps at trump force one. and, being seen in at least, you know, up and about and, fully mobile, etc. and so yes, he has been commenting and i think that he's there's no i can't see that this is going to go unreported by, donald trump. but he's been, magnanimous and brave and courageous and, as we would

expect. >> do we know about his injuries , >> do we know about his injuries, what he sustained, what happened to him ? to him? >> no more than it's been reported . it's, i think there reported. it's, i think there are two. there are two versions going around at the moment. just out of interest, some are saying that the bullet made a direct hit and tore through the upper right hand part of his ear , and right hand part of his ear, and there's other reports saying that it actually went through a teleprompter. and it's the glass from the teleprompter that shattered. so some are. so listen that none of these are nothing is confirmed. this is going to be picked over. i mean, even named different names of suspects are coming up. i mean, we had this name , overnight, the we had this name, overnight, the chap called crooks and now it's. anyway, i don't want to name the name of the other person, but there is apparently another, suspect that has now been who is apparently under fbi surveillance , right up until the surveillance, right up until the last moment. so, so many details have still yet to be confirmed, but these are the developing

stories , so, you know, is it stories, so, you know, is it a bullet wound? is it a, a splinter, a glass fracture from, an exploding teleprompter? >> well, there's a picture of a bullet that sort of appeared to be going whizzing past or towards his ear. so that could be. it sounds to me like it probably was a bullet, but what about the young lad that was killed? who tried to assassinate him? we've just had news that they found bomb making equipment at his home. >> yeah, this is a developing story. as you say. and so, you know, we're hearing this at the same time . yes. apparently 20 same time. yes. apparently 20 years old and a republican. this is the thing. he's a registered republican but donated to the biden campaign. and now , after a biden campaign. and now, after a search at his home and his dad apparently is quoted as going, he's got no idea what's going on at all, but they're they're finding bomb making equipment at his home. it's look, immediately the internet and social media does a deep dive. and so there are so many details . i don't are so many details. i don't want to enter into the conspiracy theory stuff at all because that's exploded overnight. this is how rapidly i

think you were touching on this earlier with social media, social media is doing so much of the, organic investigation into this that there is a story and a narrative about the shooter. the suspect, potential other suspects, the actual cause, the even even the role of the secret service is being called to in question. and so you've got every side has got their opinion, and it is being served by this fractured, yeah. fractured, story at the moment. >> okay. well, listen, paul, it's always a pleasure. thank you so much, paul duddridge is the host of the politics people podcast. and weather is next. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> hello there. this is your latest gb news, weather forecast provided by the met office. some of us so far has been dominated by areas of low pressure, and

we've got more of them on the way over the next few days. this one out in the atlantic is geanng one out in the atlantic is gearing itself up to arrive for the start of the new working week, and we've still got one out in the north sea that has been providing drizzly outbreaks of rain for parts of northern england, and there will be continuing on and off for little as we head throughout this evening and overnight as well. perhaps pepping up for a time around the firth of forth area. edinburgh, as well. generally wales central southern areas of england are touched drier tonight. some mist and fog patches around underneath those clear spells and rural temperatures, maybe into single figures, but most of our towns and cities will be holding up in double digits as we kick off monday morning. but the start of the new working week will be quite misty and murky for the far north—east of scotland, where we will see quite a bit of cloud drifting its way in on that northerly breeze. with some drizzle in there for a time. generally western areas, the highlands over towards argyll and bute, seeing some hazy sunshine to kick off monday morning here. also some sunny spells for northern ireland and also into northern england as well, where it is going to feel much better on monday compared to the cool conditions we've had throughout the weekend. underneath all that cloud. but

here is that rain. the area of low pressure arriving in the far southwest for the start of monday. it will be turning heavy with some thundery downpours spreading into southwest england and wales throughout the day. and as a result, there is a yellow rain warning in force because we could see some localised disruption and flooding in places. so do take care. we do also need to watch out for the potential for some rain to spread its way into the far south—east of england, as well. a reversal of fortunes in temperatures on monday actually coolest in the southwest underneath that cloud and rain. but northern england , northern but northern england, northern ireland, central scotland faring much better 21 or 20 c. that rain will continue to spread its way northwards throughout monday evening and into the overnight period. again, there will be some heavy pulses, potentially thundery downpours around at times that we do need to watch out for. tuesday looks like a day of sunshine and showers with further low pressure centres though arriving as we head towards wednesday and thursday. bye bye for now . bye bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers

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>> well. >> well. >> good afternoon. it is 5:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up, i'll be joined by a special guest who has undergone hundreds of cosmetic procedures to change her gender, and now releasing a comic book about life in this gender. so do you know who she is, then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is energy safe under labour and of course, tonight it's big time. can the three lions end the 58 years of hurt? our reporter jack carson is in berlin, taking in the atmosphere . berlin, taking in the atmosphere. >> well, of course it is. hours before now , the england final before now, the england final with spain. of course, the anticipation is building here in berlin. but can england make history in germany? >> who can they trust? now let's get your latest news though,

with sam francis . with sam francis. >> nana, thank you very much and good evening to you. it's just turned 5:00. and first to the latest developments from the us, where melania trump says her life was on the brink of devastating change due to the suspected assassination attempt on her husband, donald trump, last night. the former us president has said a bullet pierced his ear after a gunman fired at him from a rooftop dunng fired at him from a rooftop during a campaign rally in pennsylvania. one spectator was killed and two others are still critically injured. this was as the moment the gunfire rang out and secret service agents swarmed the former president . swarmed the former president. >> if you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened .

at what happened. >> and we are waiting to hear from officials in pennsylvania expected to be holding a briefing in the next few minutes. we will bring that to you live as we get it. in the meantime , the fbi has confirmed meantime, the fbi has confirmed the alleged gunman, 20 year old thomas matthew crooks, was shot at the scene. we now know he was at the scene. we now know he was a registered republican who had also donated to a democrat supporting organisation, though his motive for the attack remains unclear at this stage. one spectator, as i said, was killed, two others still in a critical condition, and president joe biden has now condemned the attack against his political opponent . political opponent. >> there's no place in america for this kind of violence. it's sick. it's sick at the bottom line is the trump rally was a rally that he should have been able to be conducted peacefully without any problem. but the idea, the idea that there's political violence or violence

in america like this is just unheard of. it's just not appropriate. we everybody, everybody must condemn it here. >> prime minister sir keir starmer is among world leaders who have condemned last night's attack. he says he's appalled at the news in the us, vice president kamala harris says she's relieved that trump is not seriously injured , while seriously injured, while billionaire elon musk says he'll continue to fully endorse the former president and hopes for his rapid recovery. meanwhile, reform uk leader nigel farage says trump's assassination attempt is another example of what he is describing as liberal intolerance. >> you left liberal elite have this sort of form of intellectual superiority where they believe they're better human beings than those on the centre right and that is what's run through media education. and thatis run through media education. and that is at the heart of this problem , liberal intolerance. problem, liberal intolerance. and i did say to him, if i hadnt and i did say to him, if i hadn't been elected to parliament, i'd be with him this weekend . so i would have been at

weekend. so i would have been at that rally, if i, if i decided to not stand for parliament. but i've now decided , tom, in the i've now decided, tom, in the light of what's happened, that i will fly out to america this week, i will go and see my friend , and i'll do it. you friend, and i'll do it. you know, i'll listen to his acceptance speech at the convention on thursday, and i'll do it not just as a friend, but i'll do it because we have to stand up for democracy. we have to stand up for people to be able to campaign. if we don't, we're absolutely sunk. >> nigel farage, there , >> nigel farage, there, addressing his concerns following trump's assassination attempt. well, in other news, the foreign secretary, david lammy, is calling for an immediate ceasefire in gaza on his first trip to the middle east since being in the role. his call for a pause in fighting comes as israel is reporting the hamas commander in khan younis has been killed in an airstrike. that attack reportedly hit the southern city, with gazan officials claiming up to 90 civilians died. it's unclear, though, at this stage whether the hamas chief and any other senior leaders were killed in the attacks this afternoon, the

mother of missing teenager jay slater has issued a statement saying she's aware of vile conspiracy theories surrounding her son's disappearance. debbie duncan's released that statement as it approaches a ten month story approaches a month rather, since the 19 year old went missing on the island of tenerife, he was last heard from on the 17th of june, telling a friend he'd missed a bus and had cut his leg on a cactus and a first major men's football title . first major men's football title. almost six decades is within england's grasp in tonight's euro 2024 final standing in their way, though, a spain side who have won every game they've played in the tournament so far, these are the live shots above these are the live shots above the stadium in berlin . beautiful the stadium in berlin. beautiful scenes there. slightly cloudy, but hopefully the weather will hold as fans are soon to be arriving. not wanting to miss out on what could be a historic moment for the england team ahead of the big game, sir keir

starmer has praised england's footballers, saying they've made the country proud in a letter to gareth southgate and the team , gareth southgate and the team, the prime minister emphasised their graft, their hard work and wished them the very best. gareth southgate and his players. as i say they are hoping to win england's first trophy since 1966. >> i'm not a believer in fairy tales, but i am a believer in dreams and, we've had big dreams. we've felt the need and the importance of that . but the importance of that. but then, you know, you have to make those things happen . those things happen. >> and finally, the latest from wimbledon, the princess of wales has now presented the men's trophy to carlos alcaraz, who at just 21, has successfully defended his title after a very one sided performance over novak djokovic in the final. the spaniard won in straight sets on centre court to clinch his fourth grand slam win. today's

visit to centre court with her daughter princess charlotte is princess katherine's second pubuc princess katherine's second public appearance following her cancer diagnosis. that's public appearance following her cancer diagnosis . that's after cancer diagnosis. that's after she made a brief return to the pubuc she made a brief return to the public spotlight last month at trooping the colour . those are trooping the colour. those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm sam francis. more for you in the next half hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to eight minutes after 5:00. this is a gb news. went live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now . this show headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course what is yours will be debating,

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forward slash your say . oh, forward slash your say. oh, there's no sting right. so let's carry on. every sunday at five i'm joined by celebrity former mp. well somebody said an extremely interesting career to take a look at life after the job. we talk highs, lows, lessons learned what comes next on the outside. and this week my guest is a british brazilian television personality who was formerly known as the human ken doll . born in formerly known as the human ken doll. born in sao formerly known as the human ken doll . born in sao paulo, she doll. born in sao paulo, she moved to london at the age of 18 and has been making headlines ever since, spending over £1 million undergoing over 100 cosmetic procedures to change her appearance, but also her genden her appearance, but also her gender. and now she's released a comic book about her life and her transition. i'm sure you've guessed it. you saw her in the picture. of course it is. is jessica alves. jessica, thank you for coming in. it's lovely to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for having me. >> and you too. now the last time we spoke, we always talk about the topic of gender and your transition. so talk to me about now though what you have doneis about now though what you have done is you've created a comic book about your life and about your transition to tell us

things that perhaps the press and media don't talk about. yes. >> so throughout the years, i have always been persuaded to write a book , but i was never write a book, but i was never ready to disclose so much. >> and, i've been working this beautiful comic book i brought you a little copy. >> it's here. >> it's here. >> you can have a look into it later where i'm detailing past experiences growing up in brazil and then moving to this country and then moving to this country and my struggles, the struggles that i had to go through to become the woman that i am today beyond know the aesthetics and the glamorous life that people see on social media and portrayed by television. so to be the woman that i am today, i tell you, i've been through a lot pain, not only physically, but mentally. i've been through a lot bullying growing up because i wasn't a boy and i wasn't a girl either. so what i was, who was i? >> and i'm detailing everything now in this beautiful comic book

ihave now in this beautiful comic book i have teamed up with, touristic doc and neil gibson , and it's doc and neil gibson, and it's a it's a beautiful story that i'm telling this comic book, and i hope, nana that i'll be able to inspire people out there that are going through the same issues that i did growing up as a child, and also parents that have had trans kids and they do not know how to deal with that . not know how to deal with that. >> so what are your thoughts then? of course we have a labour government now. we have sir keir starmer and others confusing whether who should be in what toilet. there was an interesting piece with nick ferrari and when he said he asked, i think it was bridget phillipson. i think it was, which toilet somebody should use. i mean, to me that's sort of trivial because we share all the toilets here in gb news anyway. but i understand in other spaces. public spaces. yeah, with male and female for you. which toilet would you go in then? and what are your thoughts are on the view of it . thoughts are on the view of it. well i can't a big question. so i thought imagine me, jessica

was going inside a male toilet to do my makeup and lipstick. >> what kind of questions would i get? i think that a lot of men would be very happy to see me walking inside their toilets. obviously not. i'm a woman. i'm a woman. i'm not a biological woman, but i am a woman. and i just cannot have babies because i don't have the female organs. but i'm a woman inside out. therefore, i use the female toilet. but what? what has been going on around ? there are a lot going on around? there are a lot of people that regard themselves as being transgender when they're actually not. they don't have any psychological help. they don't have any medical help. they just wear female clothes and make up, and they call themselves a female, and they are the ones using female spaces and take advantage of that. and that is what should stop and being controlled. >> but that's the problem , isn't >> but that's the problem, isn't it? so what do you do to stop that? i mean, the suggestion was a third extra space. how would you feel about a third extra space where you know, this is

where if somebody is trans or any of those, those other things can use rather than using the female toilet? >> i don't think that that would work, actually, because these people that regard, those people that regard themselves as being females in their in their minds, they still would use the female toilets because it's to protect women, not to protect women. >> people who are genuinely trans and who, you know, have come to terms with it. and, you know, and just to protect women from people who are going to play from people who are going to play the system. no. >> exactly. and those people, they just take advantage from they just take advantage from the system, i think and i think that we have bigger problems. we have bigger problems in this country to be concerned about the nhs . it's a huge one. that the nhs. it's a huge one. that should be looking into, i think, and these people that call themselves transgender when they actually not, they need medical help. they the medical service in this country , they don't take in this country, they don't take care of those people mentally,

physically, these people, they need therapy, they need hormonal treatment. and also they need the surgery in order. so there mind and body is aligned to what they think, who they actually are. i mean, listen, i think most people really, you know, in a sense couldn't give two hoots if somebody's an adult deciding to go through all the surgery and things like that. >> it's up to as an adult, you're free. it's your body. you do what you like. >> it's a very personal decision. >> it's more the children that people are concerned about. when people are concerned about. when people are concerned about. when people are very young, that they could potentially be manipulated or uncertain and then go through a path that they really would rather an adult had said, look, don't do that just yet. give yourself time. >> no . absolutely. yes. so i >> no. absolutely. yes. so i think that, first of all, you know , the nhs should take care know, the nhs should take care of these people first before most rather than change it, toilets around this country and having a third gender toilet because personally i don't think that that's going to work really well. >> i see what you mean, that

people who believe that they are that and that they're not will still they'll be there'll be arguments in front of the toilet. >> they're going to need to have security guards, because if they're going to be fighting for their rights now am a woman going to use that? so what are you going to do? lift up their skirts? because i have a vagina. i don't have a penis. so i'm not going to use a male toilet. >> yeah, i you know, i hear that, but and that's, that's me. >> but a lot of people like myself, they call themselves transgender, who is still don't have any surgery. and they still act like a man. they just wear female clothes. and they believe that they are a woman. and those are the ones causing threats to women and female space. i would feel very threatened personally going to a toilet. personally, i don't mind. i don't like this gender neutral toilets because i don't feel comfortable even at no place. sometimes that i go to, i'm doing my lipstick. i see a man walking. i just leave right away because i'm a woman and i feel very, very well. >> i think that is the problem, though, that you pointed out very clearly that it is not

because of people who are genuine in it, it is because of people who take advantage of it. and the problem with that is that you cannot differentiate. it's like you said, you can't lift up somebody's skirt and say, well , hang on, let's check. absolutely. >> what are you going to need? like security guards at the door to check that, like moral police? >> well, that is the problem, which is why there should be, i believe, a third space so that people who are in the in between or not sure where they are with it, can use that space in protecting both male and female. >> to be honest, if they're actually not sure what they are, they need medical help. this is exactly what i did. it wasn't easy.i exactly what i did. it wasn't easy. i had the support of my family. i had amazing doctors. it was a very difficult journey that i'm detailing now in this comic book. i understand this is my story doesn't apply to everybody , and we all have everybody, and we all have different stories and different backgrounds and understand actually the struggle that a lot of people that call themselves transgender, either male or female, goes through. and it's tough. it really is, and i know it is. why are we now 2024 and all? and but it is an issue that

goes around globally. like i live in england, i have been in this country for more than half of my life, but often i'm an american. i'll go back to american. i'll go back to america this week and they also have similar issues that we have here. so it is an issue that it's going around globally, like there is no a better country to be a transgender. every single country that will have some kind of issues. some countries are worse than others, as we know, but i just hope that one day we can all live in peace, where everybody can just be happy. >> so. so your twisted, dark inspiration. this comic book is what's in there that we would sort of be surprised to see. you know, obviously don't give us all the detail, but give us. yeah. >> i, it is in there that we would you know, that hasn't been said before. yeah. because when people go through my social media, i know it's all about how glamorous pictures i, i am a woman and i love being a woman. theni woman and i love being a woman. then i am so blessed. really. then i am so blessed. really. theni then i am so blessed. really. then i celebrate femininity

every day. so. but then people just see the surface. people just see the surface. people just see the surface. people just see that woman look in a certain way, celebrate her femininity. but at this comic book i'm telling about my childhood, growing up in brazil, i had a very strict father. my father died three years ago. oh and but he was very , a very and but he was very, a very strict father to me. so when i was being bullied at school and i would arrive at home covered in bruises, dad would ask what actually happened. and then i said, well, basically the boys at school , they were punching me at school, they were punching me and placed my face against the ufinal and placed my face against the urinal, pushed me down the stairs because they said that i wasn't a boy. and then my dad would punish me for that, saying, i'm going to punish you so you can learn how to be a boy. so tomorrow you can go back to school and beat those boys up. that's absolutely wrong . but up. that's absolutely wrong. but also that's very old fashioned. that's that's back in brazil in the 80s and before my dad died, obviously, we had a conversation

about it and in tears he cried and i love you, dad, i really do. and i have forgiven you. and i've never i never held any grudge against my dad. at least i was very much loved by my family. i had a very good education. i was sent to one of the best schools . the best schools. >> and your transition and everything? >> yes. so when my father, i was halfway through my transition , halfway through my transition, when my father saw me, it was very shocking for him. it was really shocking . i could see really shocking. i could see tears in his eyes, but he was trying his best to accept it. but not my grandma, my mom, everybody, my family. i have the best family in the world. they're so loving and supportive. having said that, we are from a christian, catholic, family. i was sent to a christian catholic boarding school and, i think that who i am today, now i'm 34, i'm turning 41. nowadays i'm the

fruit of my imagination. everything that i have always wanted to be with the love and support from my family and few close friends that i have. and i think that if we have that basis in our life, we can be anything. we can be superheroes. now it's just like, let's try and make this world a better place to live in peace and respect and love one another and be more empathetic as well. now there is so much bullying still going on at schools and daily basis on social media. now i'm a victim of social media bullying . of social media bullying. >> oh, we all are every day. >> oh, we all are every day. >> i don't know if you go through my instagram sometimes because you're instagram friends, so always check your posts. >> they i'm not very good at instagram, but they listen. they bully everybody anyway. i don't take any notice of it anyway. but listen jessica, we are running out of time . what's the running out of time. what's the comic book called? where can people get older ? people get older? >> so my comic book is called inspiration. it is a collaboration with a twisted dog and a new gibson. there is a link online on my instagram page and all my social medias, and

you can place your order. it's a beautiful, beautiful comic book. you're also going to find you're going to be. it's going to be published in five different languages. also, because i speak five languages, i know i'm not normal. i'm not from this world. okay, so i speak english, portuguese , spanish, french, portuguese, spanish, french, italian, some german, but my german is not very good. but i can speak all these languages fluently and i have a very large following. they are from around the world, so i hope that i'll be able to please everybody. >> well, jessica, it's been really good to talk to you. thank you very much. thank you. an update on your journey. that an update on yourjourney. that is, of course, tv personality jessica alves. and of course, you can get ahold of her book. check out her instagram. but right now, if you've just tuned in, just coming up to 22 minutes after 5:00, we're live here on tv, online and on digital radio. we're crossing live to berlin as the excitement builds for tonight's euro finals. but next, it's tonight's euro finals. but next, wsfime tonight's euro finals. but next, it's time for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, is energy safe under labour? this is gb news

good afternoon. 25 after 5:00. this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. now we can now cross the line to pennsylvania, where officials are speaking about the assassination attempt on donald trump. >> law enforcement will have more to share throughout the day, but i'd like to make a few comments separate from the ongoing investigation. >> first and foremost, the assassination attempt on the former president donald trump last night was absolutely unacceptable and tragic . lori unacceptable and tragic. lori and i are grateful that the former president is safe and according to him and his team is fine . it's also important to fine. it's also important to note that last night, three of our fellow pennsylvanians were shot, one fatally, and two in critical condition. i've just

spent time speaking to the families , and i want to offer my families, and i want to offer my prayers and the prayers of all 13 million pennsylvanians for the two individuals who are being treated at this time. we lost a fellow pennsylvanian last night, corey comparator i just spoke to corey's wife and corey's two daughters. corey was a girl. dad. corey was a firefighter. corey went to church every sunday. corey loved his community and most especially corey loved his family . corey was an avid family. corey was an avid supporter of the former president and was so excited to be there last night with him in the community. i asked corey's

wife if it would be okay for me to share that we spoke and she said yes . she to share that we spoke and she said yes. she also to share that we spoke and she said yes . she also asked that to share that we spoke and she said yes. she also asked that i share with all of you that he died a hero, that corey dove on his family to protect them. last night at this rally . corey was night at this rally. corey was the very best of us. may his memory be a blessing . last night memory be a blessing. last night was shocking for this community and for this commonwealth. and i know for this country political disagreements can never , ever be disagreements can never, ever be addressed through violence . addressed through violence. disagreements are okay, but we need to use a peaceful political process to settle those differences . this is process to settle those differences. this is a moment where all leaders have a responsibility to speak and act

with moral clarity. we're all leaders need to take down the temperature and rise above the hateful rhetoric that exists and search for a better, brighter future for this nation. it's the work that i try to do every day here in the commonwealth of pennsylvania , and that's the pennsylvania, and that's the work that falls to each and every american right now. and so i ask that you join me in prayer for the two pennsylvanians who are in critical condition , that are in critical condition, that we continue to wish for a full and speedy recovery and pray for the former president and the comparator family remains in our thoughts and prayers . they have thoughts and prayers. they have some very challenging times ahead of them . they will have an ahead of them. they will have an empty seat at the dinner table for the rest of their lives, but we need to make sure that corey's memory is forever a blessing. and here in pennsylvania, we will to see it that that is the case. and with that, i'll be happy to try and take a few of your questions.

>> governor, a lot of folks are starting to ask the tough question about whether that building that the shooter accessed should have been secured, should it have been secured, should it have been secured, and do the pennsylvania state police have any responsibility to have secured it? >> i'm not going to get into any questions regarding or answer any questions regarding the ongoing investigation. i trust that the fbi and the pennsylvania state police will keep you posted throughout the day and in the days ahead, as to their investigation. governor, there were some concerning items that the police had found in the suspect's vehicle. >> do you have any update on those? and are you confident at this point? the threat is over, that he acted alone and that the pubuc that he acted alone and that the public is, in fact, safe? >> the investigation is ongoing and law enforcement will update you on the status of their investigation throughout the day. can you share any more about your communications with former president donald trump or his team? i have not spoken directly to the former president. i have wished him well. i think multiple times

last evening through statements, lori last evening through statements, lon and last evening through statements, lori and i have , the people of lori and i have, the people of pennsylvania, i know we're praying for him. and again, according to his team and himself, it seems as though he will be fine. obviously, relatively speaking, and we're glad to see that violence is never acceptable. i should also let you know that i did speak to president biden. he called me last night to make sure that here in the commonwealth, we had all the resources we needed. i assured him that we did. at the time, he had yet to speak to president trump. i think they connected later in the evening and he wanted me to know that he was trying to reach out to the former president. i think that that was the honourable and right thing to do. and i'm glad that president biden did that. we have no unmet needs at this time, and we're working in concert with our federal partners. and i let the president know that . have you president know that. have you talked to the families of those who were critically injured? >> and do you have an update on their condition? >> i spoke to the family of one

of them, and the other left a detailed message, and i'm not going to get into their status . going to get into their status. that will be shared by the pennsylvania state police and or the family later today . will you the family later today. will you be asking for flags to be flown at half staff across the state? >> and also knowing that this is going to be a really contentious, even more so, a battleground state for the rest of until we get donelan. >> what would your message ? >> what would your message? >> what would your message? >> i just missed the last part of what she said. no problem. >> the first one was about the flags, the second knowing that this is going to be even more contentious now in the state of pennsylvania, and that we're divided here. >> what is your message to people who live here? >> i have directed that flags be flown at half staff and kyrees memory, and our chief of staff is working through that process. now. my message to all pennsylvanians, my message to all americans is to be firm in your beliefs, to believe what your beliefs, to believe what you believe, to advocate for what you believe, and to be engagedin what you believe, and to be engaged in the political and civic process, but to always do

so peacefully . to remember that so peacefully. to remember that while we may be democrats or republicans, above all else, we are americans. and if you look at the story of this great nafion at the story of this great nation over the last 248 years, a nation that was born right here in pennsylvania, it's been ordinary americans at every single step of the way, rising up, demanding more, seeking justice, advocating for change and doing so peacefully. and those who have advocated for such change peacefully. they have been the ones to bring that about. we have to remember that evenin about. we have to remember that even in these times where there are real divisions that we have to address, those divisions through engagement in the political and civic process in a peaceful manner that is incumbent upon all political leaders of all parties , and it leaders of all parties, and it is incumbent upon the public, i will tell you that notwithstanding the tragedy that we saw last night here in butler, the awful tragedy that

every day when i'm around pennsylvania, i see the very best of pennsylvanians, people who do have fervent beliefs , who do have fervent beliefs, people who do have passionate beliefs, but who engage in a peaceful manner and who love their neighbours and who engage with people in their communities , with people in their communities, even those that they might have differences from. we need to learn from our history in this commonwealth and in this country, and we need to bring our better angels forward and carry that forward into this political season . i'll take one political season. i'll take one more. yes. expand on the situation of mr compaore's passing. >> was he standing behind president trump? you said he dove in front of his family. >> is there any more detail you can provide about his wife shared with me that he dove on his family to protect him? as for any other information that will be shared by law enforcement, thank you all very much. >> okay, so that was of course, the press conference there with regard to the shooting, the attempted assassination of donald trump, attempted assassination of donald trump , governor of donald trump, governor of pennsylvania josh shapiro talking there about some fellow

pennsylvanians who were affected by the incident. we'll stay with me. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. coming up, some good news. the princess of wales has appeared in public. we'll bring you all the latest on what she's been doing. but next, it's time for the great british debate. this out. i'm asking, is energy

labour? 37 minutes after 5:00. welcome. oh my goodness . how many more oh my goodness. how many more hours till the football match? two and a half. i'm nana akua this is gb news live on tv, onune this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. now it's online and on digital radio. now wsfime online and on digital radio. now it's time for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking , is debate this hour. i'm asking, is energy safe under labour? the energy secretary, ed miliband, has made the controversial decision to approve three massive solar farms in the east of england that have been previously blocked by tory ministers, mps and campaigners have accused him of endangering the country's food security by sacrificing large amounts of farmland for the solar projects. there have also been reports

that labour is considering blocking oil and gas drilling in the north sea, but ed miliband has denied this, and his department says the government won't issue new licences to explore new oil gas fields, but also won't revoke existing ones. so the great british debate this out. i'm asking, is energy safe under labour? well, joining me to debate this client, scientist paul burgess and senior meteorologist jim dale. the dastardly duo have returned. so paul burgess, this is not climate change. you're not wearing those because of that, are you? now? obviously not. paul burgess. talk to me, paul. so a solar power, solar farms . so a solar power, solar farms. surely this is a good thing. solar power? >> no , no it's not. i mean, >> no, no it's not. i mean, basically, we're putting the cost of electricity up enormously with all the wind and solar. i mean, ed miliband's even trying to promote offshore wind, which is £246 a megawatt. they're offering for it , i mean, they're offering for it, i mean, gas at the moment, £65. onshore wind 89, offshore wind 102. i mean, but the big problem is

this as we increase wind, we're going to be paying more the constraint payments because we have to pay overnight for all of it, even though we don't use it. and so as we raise that a limit on wind, and we're going to be paying on wind, and we're going to be paying enormous amounts of constraint payments, and besides which, we're having to spend 60 billion to improve the network on the grid. all these are costs coming on the consumer. and what matters in any economy is cheap energy. and we don't have that. >> jim dale , good afternoon. >> jim dale, good afternoon. >> jim dale, good afternoon. >> good afternoon. look, we had a general election, about nine days ago. did we not? and, i think it was a big vote in favour. about 6 to 1 if you if you split the parties from progressive, climate change, green energy , supporters to the green energy, supporters to the other side , which are regressive other side, which are regressive and none of the, none of the sort. paul side, if you like. and they lost . so this was sort. paul side, if you like. and they lost. so this was this was a democratic vote, the new

government's been in eight days. so this the wheels are starting to turn and turn quite quickly. where we weren't safe is where we were before. let's make that clear. and in two ways. first of all, the climate itself. we have to mitigate the climate. what's going on globally, across the world. we have to take steps as we have been taking steps. even the last tory government did some of that. not enough and not fast enough, but nonetheless they were involved where they lost the vote. by the way , in lost the vote. by the way, in that it is. well, well, well, seen that the tories lost vote, particularly in the blue wall areas because of their environmental climate change stance. >> and but jim, a lot of them, the two parties were almost neck and neck with their policies. i mean, one was just coming bringing net zero forward a bit. that's all the difference. they still supported the same sort of thing. >> yeah . the tories were sitting >> yeah. the tories were sitting on the fence or even going backwards because they were chasing the same guy we saw. we saw it. they're not the same. and you've already seen the what's going to happen in the labour manifesto, gb energy , the

labour manifesto, gb energy, the transition of the oil and gas. jobs over time, over time. and it has to be you know, this is i've always said this evolution not revolution. i like it to move faster, but it won't do, but nonetheless, this is the direction of travel. and, paul, there's no stopping this now . there's no stopping this now. it's absolutely clear. >> there's no there is, is there is there paul? is there any stopping it? >> oh, yes, there is, because it's totally unrealistic. we can't afford to do it. i mean, even this new energy thing, they're talking about is not possible. i mean, i've got to see i'm doing a video now with that recording of the prime minister being told it's going to cost hundreds of billions, not just 8.1 billion and so on. so what's going to stop ? this not just 8.1 billion and so on. so what's going to stop? this is the practicality of it all. now my answer is not to do with politics. i'm not interested in politics. i'm not interested in politics. i'm not interested in politics. i'm interested in the science. now, even if jim was right , let's science. now, even if jim was right, let's just assume science. now, even if jim was right , let's just assume that right, let's just assume that jim was right. what we're doing makes no difference whatsoever to the planet . none at all. and to the planet. none at all. and what they're not doing is

anything to go at the chinese and indians and fossil fuels. i mean, in the country at the moment, if you take renewables of solar and wind, it's 4.8% of our total energy, 4.8. >> it's not enough, is it? >> it's not enough, is it? >> and what they're trying to do is stop oil, which is not just for obe, it's for everything from your clothes to the roads. okay. >> so i'm going to give jim dale, you've got about 10s to respond to that very 10s, because we've got to go sadly gave you their absolute bogus in this country alone, there are times when renewable, renewable energy that we get from the sun or the wind or the waves comes in far, far higher than oil, gas. >> coal is virtually zero every day now. >> it's 4.8. »- >> it's 4.8. >> it's 4.8. >> it's clear . >> it's 4.8. >> it's clear. make this absolutely clear. there's only one direction. we're you know, we're nine days into this new government okay okay. >> so okay. yeah. well we know all the back story about how many days we're in. can i just ask you then, so is i'll ask you, jim dale, is the energy safe under labour? >> jim dale of course it's safe. >> jim dale of course it's safe.

>> and also , is it safe? >> and also, is it safe? >> and also, is it safe? >> it's the worst situation with miliband in charge we could ever imagine being in. >> that's pretty clear. all right. thank you very much, jim dale, senior meteorologist. paul burgess, a climate scientist. thank you so much . right. well, thank you so much. right. well, let's see what my panel maker that christine hamilton and danny kelly. christine. >> well, jim dale is jim dale, isn't he? i won't rehearsal the facts because we've had them on both sides there, but no, paul, the final words he said was that ed miliband is a he didn't phrase it like this is a complete disaster, which he is, because he's an absolute net zero zealot and he cannot see the wood for the trees, nobody is against solar power per se, but it should not be on agricultural fields. it should be on brownfield sites, it should be on rooftops . yes, of should be on rooftops. yes, of course, put it on all new buildings, etc, etc. we are currently where we live down in wiltshire. we are fighting an enormous over 2000 acres plan to put solar panels four metres high. not these little ones huge. four metre high solar panels on agricultural land

that, as we speak is producing wheat grazing cattle. it is absolutely crazy. well, of course i have to prioritise food security. it is not necessary to put solar on all these agricultural areas. >> well, of course ed miliband would argue that he's not a zealot. he's just trying to. yes he is. save the environment. danny kelly. >> it's absurd. >> it's absurd. >> utility of it all. exactly what difference will it make? not i really get frustrated about. i'm not a climate denier. i i take everything that the scientists tell me and i believe it. and i also think paul's point was very interesting as well. but it's the futility of it all. what are we doing to ourselves? thousands of jobs are going with the north sea thing. thousands of jobs are on the line. it'sjust thousands of jobs are on the line. it's just what difference doesit line. it's just what difference does it make? well, unless other countries around the world actually get involved. what difference? >> well, i'll tell you the difference. it makes. the difference. it makes. the difference it makes is that all of us and everybody else has to pay of us and everybody else has to pay vastly more for their energy bills, for their electricity. while china and india roar away, roar away, using conventional stuff, churning out all these emissions , which we we've done

emissions, which we we've done more than any other country in the world. i mean, i'm agreeing with you to reduce emissions, and it is utterly ridiculous for us to bankrupt ourselves , charge us to bankrupt ourselves, charge people so much for their electricity, while huge countries with mega populations are steaming away, churning out all these. i mean, it's bonkers, but they would argue that we've had our time with the industrial revolution when they weren't doing that. well, fine. >> yes. rubbish argument that we produce so much in the industrial revolution. >> but danny darwin, if you accept that argument and there is a validity to it, it is their turn. we've got to punish ourselves now. no, no. then that is saying let them go ahead and do it. but don't punish ourselves. self—flagellation a bit. no, i know it's crazy. >> well, the point that that that makes is that who are you to tell them to do what you have just been doing? >> i don't think i should, that's why they're not listening. >> if climate change and man made climate change and the threat of it is so serious and potentially cataclysmic, i think the next logical step for people like jim would be to call for some sort of regime change in countries like china who are

doing absolutely nothing about it. well, if it is that, of course, no, of course not. but that would be the next political movement to to, demand regime change. if climate change is so potentially damaging. right. >> well, this has nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. there's three of you, lee webb in bedfordshire, briefly. what do you think? is it? >> i think it's madness. it's net zero stuff we're doing away. if we stop all of this oil drilling, we're stopping the way of a lot of, revenue for the government. >> £8.6 billion is raised each year by the government. that's on average some years it's more, some years it's less. >> but, just lose all of that revenues. >> absolutely mental judith raanan against our security. >> julie ford in bedfordshire. sorry to rush you, lee. >> julie ford, is anything safe under any of the governments, i think is the question . think is the question. >> nana, >> nana, >> i agree with everything that both of your your panels have said. both jim and paul and christine and danny , i think for christine and danny, i think for us as the size of the uk in the

rest of the world, it's not going to really make much impact, andifs going to really make much impact, and it's going to be end up with our customers having to pay the bill. >> yeah, i suppose so. and land is a premium and you can't just put solar panels on it. and bnan put solar panels on it. and brian doogan, funny to you, is energy safe in a labour. >> yeah. i mean, i think, striving towards, what, what they're trying to do by 2030, i think is, is laudable. >> and i think that's what we have to strive for. you know , have to strive for. you know, collectively as, as, as a, as a human race, but that's difficult because other countries have their own , approaches to this their own, approaches to this nana. but i think we have to strive towards it. and you know, the global crisis at the moment, we need clean energy, and that's what we need to be, looking for. well, we need to. >> not in a counterproductive fashion. i'll agree with you on that as well, brian dugan. thank you very much. dooley ford in bedfordshire and also, lee webb in bedfordshire. next county, england, bring football home. he's coming home. we'll see. we'll go to berlin

hello? yeah. can the three lions. well, can they beat 58 years of hurt? england faced spain in berlin in what is their first ever major final abroad. enjoying the euros build up is our reporters jack carson in berlin. and also jack carson. just you . is it jack carson in just you. is it jack carson in berlin? i've changed into my england outfit. i'm into united kingdom. but hey, so talk to me . kingdom. but hey, so talk to me. what's going on there? what's the atmosphere like ? the atmosphere like? >> well, honestly, the atmosphere has been building all day. we've been with the england fans all day and it honestly, it's just fantastic . you can it's just fantastic. you can really feel that anticipation, that excitement in the air with with chris skudder of course, once again. and you can see the kind of fans, you know, trying to get into this fan zone. this is going to be one hell of a

final. >> it's been a long day, hasn't it? they've drunk the place dry. i mean, literally from breakfast time to now. and now we're just outside the brandenburg gate area where the fan zone is, and area where the fan zone is, and a real mix of. we haven't seen many spanish fans all day, but there's a few of them coming in here now. there's a real mix, i think. so i think we're expecting about 80,000 or so to be watching from the big screens , be watching from the big screens, 30,000 or so england fans at the stadium, which is quite a way from here. but the whole, you know, the carnival atmosphere, i mean, it's just all about a sense of history tonight, tonight, now this is it. >> and this is, i guess, the pressure that's on southgate. you know, we know what happened in 2021. you know losing to italy on that penalty shootout. these players and him you know he has a chance to redeem himself tonight. >> yeah i mean he's been saying all day that you know if we mustn't have any fear if we lose the fear then we're able to win. i know it sounds it's all part of the psychology that southgate. >> but he's good at that , >> but he's good at that, though, isn't he? >> he's very good at that. yeah. and he's, he's, he's made the players feel comfortable in themselves. you know. you know they're aware of what's at stake here. and let us get it right

england have failed many times in the 58 years since 1966. tonight is all about delivering . tonight is all about delivering. delivering a trophy. failure is not an option, frankly. you know, they've done brilliant to get this far. they haven't played well. but it's about delivering tonight. it's been a long, long time. all the big nafions long, long time. all the big nations have done it except england. and you know sir geoff hurst is the one remaining man from 1966. how he would love. it's going to be that ghost finally lay to rest tonight with a trophy. >> well, it certainly would have to go back to you. nana >> thank you so much. jack carson. well, that's jack carson of course, england are playing tonight . wahaca. listen on tonight. wahaca. listen on today's show we've been asking, is energy safe under labour? according to our twitter poll, only 6% of you said yes. yet 94% of you said no. it absolutely isn't. we also asked you whether the assassination attempt against trump was has changed your opinion of him. and according to our twitter poll, 86% of you said no, 14% of you

said yes. well, i've got to say huge thank you to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and also author and broadcaster christina hamilton. and also to you at home for your company . and also to you at home for your company. neil and also to you at home for your company . neil oliver is next. company. neil oliver is next. we'll leave you with this. we'll leave you with the weather. christina. danny. come on. >> yeah. come on. england can't enjoy the band. england >> looks like things are heating up . up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello there. good evening. this is your gb news weather update provided by the met office. many of us are ending this weekend on a reasonably calm note. we do have some clear spells around, particularly across wales central , southern across wales central, southern areas of england, northern ireland and western scotland. also seeing a dry start to the night. there is a bit of rain and drizzle around though for the north eastern areas, particularly developing and pepping up particularly developing and pepping up across the firth of forth into edinburgh, where dunng forth into edinburgh, where during the second half of the night many of us, though seeing

temperatures hold up around 11 to 13 c for your early morning rush hour. then on monday there will be a little bit of cloud around, certainly for the north—east of scotland. some drizzle underneath all of that, perhaps some misty, murky conditions, particularly around some coastal areas, but generally further towards the west. there will be some quite bright sunshine. first thing still, though, that drizzle perhaps lingering through the central belt. northern ireland getting off to a pretty fine start for this new working week. some sunny spells in there and also for parts of northern england. it will be much brighter compared to recent days that we have seen. feeling a touch better here. for the far south, though, it is this area of rain that we have our eyes on. this will be turning very heavy very quickly as we head throughout the morning, heavy very quickly as we head throughout the morning , with throughout the morning, with some thundery downpours possible. torrential rain. there could certainly be some difficulties on the roads and travelling, so do take care here and there is a rain warning in force for south west england and wales throughout much of monday that will steadily push its way northwards, perhaps skirting into eastern areas as well. feeling a little cool underneath that rain. 1819 c. but the northern half of the uk faring quite well, around 20 to 21 c.

here just with an ice or shower to watch out for. into tuesday , to watch out for. into tuesday, that area of low pressure that's bringing the rain to the southwest will just sort of slowly grind to a halt across some central areas. so it is still with us. the band of rain will be swirling its way around first thing on tuesday. for parts of wales, the midlands into parts of yorkshire and lancashire, as well . behind that lancashire, as well. behind that we'll start to see some sunny spells and showers developing again. some of those will be on the sharp side at times when they they look like it could be a slightly drier day for many of us, but there is further rain on the cards towards the end of the week. by by. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news

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