it's very iconic. it's >> it's very iconic. it's interesting to see how, people have cropped it, you know, because it was sort of perfectly shot and poised and whatever. yeah, i think it's a good call. obviously, i think that that is, there was like criticism in the aftermath of him saying fight, fight, fight. and people are like, how dare you know, the quy's like, how dare you know, the guy's nearly died.7 like, let him get away with. but i mean, you're not thinking about rhetoric at that moment. he's defiant. good. he's he's alive. but also, it was inspiring to see him saying, fight back against this, this, you know, evil , against this, this, you know, evil, oppressive. >> you know, this because i think the shooter really was the sort of focus, the focal point of a lot of, well, we don't know, negative feeling. no, he genuinely was i think, you know, he's a focal point. >> i think he could just be he looked like a just a, just some random crazy guy and all this rhetoric, all this rhetoric. >> no, george. all this rhetoric. that's come from the left. and we've seen the left, like, get away with so much over the past few years. >> there's no bad rhetoric. we've seen it know well where the assassinations from the right and we've seen the left

get away with so much. >> there's been the blm riots, the antifa riots. >> the right are never satisfied and they never they never get get dealt with properly. the point of it is some of the. >> listen, listen, listen, george, some of the some of the blm, some of the. >> no, you have to listen. >> no, you have to listen. >> some of the blm rioters, some of the antifa rioters were not just pardoned. they were given compensation for being arrested, compared that to the treatment of the january 6th. >> okay. what i'm trying to say here is that what trump is saying is that there the rhetoric on both sides, both sides, both sides has is evil has to be sorted out. we cannot look at our political opponents as the devil, and we have to now have conversations about how we talk about different people with different political beliefs. and i think that this is a really good thing, that he's come out and said in this moment, he could have used this moment to push, push the agenda more in his direction or whatever. and he's actually calling for unity. and i think that he doesn't need to, does he.7 >> to, does he? >> i mean, it's so spectacular,

the image that's going to last forever. he already said fight, fight, fight, his we know what his supporters are likely to make of this. josh and i don't think they're going to be relaxed about it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and kristen, i mean, you'd agree with josh that, you know, trump is a magnanimous hero and is much better than the left because he's called for unity where they have called, they haven't they notably haven't called for unity a lot of people on the left have come out. a lot of people on the left have come out and been crowing about about this and laughing about it. biden was it took him over an hour to get his statement out. i mean, it wasn't he's not he's not he's not calling for disunity. he's not i know it took him that long to type it out quicker. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> but that's the other thing. i mean, i just think that you're i think you're adding to it. i got to be honest. i think you're making it like they're they're. yeah. like, why don't we, why do we have a, the truth. why don't we have a, the truth. why don't we speaking the truth. no. you're speaking your truth. that's fine. i'm not speaking your truth loudly and aggressively. i'm speaking about what trump is saying here is

let's take it down a notch. let's have a proper conversation with each other, and let's find a way to work with people that we disagree with and, and listen as well. >> yeah. and josh is josh is right. isn't he crested i mean trump is a real he's really good at bringing people together. >> he's not brilliant at bringing people together. but i mean, i don't know, is it such a big deal that he's saying that now? it's just happened, well, you see, do you think he would have gone for the old sort of guys rally together? come help. >> he could have done whatever he wanted. as you say, this is a moment of him, this iconic image. he's the guy who's just survived an assassination. i mean, i've i agree with you. there's the i mean, i think it's despicable the way that this, this assassination has been presented across certain parts of the media. yeah. i mean, and also how certain people. absolutely on the left have sort of revelled in it and whatever. but i think even democrat staffer, a democrat staffer was fired today. and. right and rightly so despicable. but the point is, this is a focal point. this is a moment where we can see that where this kind of rhetoric has taken us. and i

think that when he says unity in the face of evil, i think he's, you know, he's not just talking about, the other side. i think he's he there's hopefully some acknowledgement. and, you know , acknowledgement. and, you know, maybe he's i don't know, i think it's very early days because the next thing of the security questions obviously can't be investigated. >> in 24 hours. you know, that's stuff's going to come out isn't it. in the coming days. >> this is i mean, this is the thing, chris, because i mean, the security service, the secret service are there to protect trump and trump's team had asked for more protection because they saw the threats that were coming to trump. they saw the death threats and the rhetoric that was in the media, but that was refused. a democrat even, proposed a bill that would remove protection from trump and let assassins kill him, which could be seen as, as almost being complicit in in an attempt to remove trump, to neutralise trump and kill him , but other trump and kill him, but other people are saying that this isn't a this isn't malice. this isn't a this isn't malice. this is just ineffectiveness. because diversity, equity and inclusion

has gripped all branches of the government executive. and we've seen we saw the we saw the women these tubby women fumbling for their guns. it was like watching somebody trying to parallel park, oh my god , no wonder park, oh my god, no wonder anybody can walk about the gary o'donoghue interview the bbc no, let's talk about let's talk about that was funny. let's talk about that was funny. let's talk about the crisis of confidence that's been caused by diversity, eqtu that's been caused by diversity, equity and inclusion and how that's manifested. >> well, there is that image of the him being surrounded by men . the him being surrounded by men. yeah. it's high. and then there's the woman right in front of him. and if someone was there and wanted a headshot , the and wanted a headshot, the height disparity. no, no. >> was there matt walsh like reaching up to catch it in her hands ? hands? >> i'm just saying maybe she should have been placed more to the side or the back. >> she was looking at the steps. there's that photo. it looks like she's got her head down. if you watch the video, she's about to walk down some steps with him and she's clearly just looking where she's going. >> there was a bystander to look where we walked, and there is a bystander who saw the sniper on

the roof, and this was a bbc interview that i'm talking about. >> gary o'donoghue and amazingly, they let it out. so the guy being interviewed is telling him with great passion that he was warning the security services, that he could see this guy on the roof with a gun. and he was very adamant that he knew that it was a gun. he could see it was a gun, and he says that despite his warnings, they didn't know. >> the police know there is now the latest thing is the police did go up the ladder, saw the guy or a policeman thought, he's got a gun. >> i'm getting out of here. >> i'm getting out of here. >> and then went back and the guy pointed the rifle at him and he went back serious. yeah, that's the latest thing. >> i can't tell if you're making that up. >> no, no. have you read that? no, i'm not gonna make that up. no, i'm not gonna make that up. no, that's the latest thing that's come out. but it's interesting how everybody like there's so many, different conspiracy theories and it's like, whatever your agenda is, i'm going to find the conspiracy theory that matches my agenda here. i read an interesting thread from someone who works with the, with the, security service or whatever they're called, what are they called , called, what are they called, secret service secret ss us. is

what they're. and, basically there's a cordon around him. then there's the middle cordon, which is this guy, which is the local police force, and then they then the secret service also control the outer cordon, which is like long distance threats and people writing letters and things like that. so basically this guy was saying, look, the middle cordon was just messed up. it was like a bunch of local police. they were rubbish and they didn't do their job right. i mean, it's like any conspiracy theory, usually it comes down to a bunch of people just being rubbish at their job. just being rubbish at theirjob. >> yeah, but i mean, we're seeing conspiracy theories coming from the left now as well. i mean, normally conspiracy theories are seen as far, far right, but no, no, we're seeing, you know, the problem. >> look at the front page of the metro. >> trump's would be assassin is a republican. that's their that's their number one thing that's their number one thing that they're going with. that's the only thing they could pick out to somehow make it, you know, smear the republicans as responsible. >> but you only have to read two sentences. >> and you realise he wasn't a republican, was he? he it looks like he had he'd signed up to the party, but it's not clear that. and he'd also given money to the democrats.

>> he donated to the democrats more recently. >> but this is it. everybody wants to find the angle that's going to attack the other side. >> well, i feel like i don't know what to make of any of it because of course, you exactly what you've just said you could play what you've just said you could play it either way. >> just look at this guy. he's a he's a geeky weirdo. >> there was a brilliant tweet saying he's got a democrats walk. there's a bit of footage of him. this guy's very republican, got the best. >> there was also an interview. >> there was also an interview. >> he's the reason you can't go on zoom dates. you have to see how the guy walks. yeah. really? yeah. he's got the bouncy nerd walk. >> yeah, i've got a bouncy nerd walk, but the. there's an interview as well with, with his former classmates who said he was bullied relentlessly. so i mean, this really shows the bullies. well, obviously know bullies. well, obviously know bullies billies can sniff out cycles and they can. so we should be arming bullies so they can neutralise threats like this. >> you're kind of right, aren't you? they keep saying, what's the motivation? i don't what the motivation is. he didn't get kissed in high school. it's obvious, that's why. >> so it's us women. >> so it's us women. >> yeah, it's your fault, chris skudder. >> and you and you would get to the bottom of this eventually.

brilliant. >> yeah. absolutely brilliant. >> yeah. absolutely brilliant. >> and we should probably mention the football as well, even though, you know. >> yeah. well, the stars are majorly got a lions. >> did us proud, it's sad. it's i'm not into football, but i am sad for the people who really take the this stuff to heart. you know, my sons , they they've you know, my sons, they they've all been watching with friends today and i know they're all going to be gutted about it. yeah, >> yeah, but it's just the euros. this is like the commonwealth games of football. >> i know, but that's the saddest thing, is we can't even win that. like, we had a chance. we got to the final. >> this time we scored a goal. >> this time we scored a goal. >> i thought you did really well. much better than scotland would do. >> well, it's been good for the pubs, hasn't it? it's good for the. i was going to say for the country spirit. there you go. that's it. it brings in business doesn't it. >> good for, refugees. >> good for, refugees. >> refugees? yeah there's a domestic violence spikes. unfortunately after, football, especially when there are losses. >> so sorry to sorry to add to the sort of downer of, of this. >> no. well, i think it's actually a good thing to talk about. >> it's a real issue out there.

and, i don't know how it can be stopped. yeah, but, you know, if you're watching this and maybe, maybe stop anybody, stop watching football, get get invested in politics instead, i agree, i think it's more football is what we need people doing structured things. >> young men mixing with older men in a good way. >> you love young men, older. is this a stonewall policy? >> no, it's young. >> no, it's young. >> men without role models don't do very well in life and are more likely to do bad things. i say more football. yes absolutely. >> no. >> no. >> play football, play football. but don't watch overpaid billionaires kicking a ball around. that's pointless . like around. that's pointless. like play around. that's pointless. like play it yourself with your friends like nick dixon does. he's very happy. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> no, he is. »- >> no, he is. >> he is. no, he's very. he got the night off. he was very. he was going to be here tonight. i'm sorry if anybody tuned in for nick. but he insisted. it was like this is his dream of 32 years. he's been waiting for this moment. >> it's very nice. >> and we were like, we'll step in. we'll step in, and we're

here we are. we're three of us are replacing him and we're sorry, english people, that you didn't get the result you wanted in the football. >> and i genuinely mean that, though in this accent

welcome back to headliners. i'm leo carson. i'm still here with josh howie and cressida wetton. and cressida thinks this is the best show ever. kicking things

off, the daily mail has an update on the trump shooter and the evidence that he planned mass killing on an even larger scale. >> josh yes, he had , fbi bomb >> josh yes, he had, fbi bomb finds bombs in trump shooter thomas crooks. >> matthews's car and home. so, yeah, they found a bunch of explosive devices, and the whole article is really the daily mail talking about how he graduated from school two years ago. yeah, i think they said it about four times that, and it's like, i think they think that it's like amazing that he that he would have graduated school two years ago and he's still doing this kind of thing after two years. he hasn't grown up yet. yeah. it's very early at rogers. they're used to this in high schools in america. yeah. >> the you know, then you're supposed to learn a trade or do something meaningful with. >> and he's not moved on. he's not moved on beyond the high school shooter. yeah. which is sad obviously. >> chris, do you think he should have, you know, found if he found a job and a girlfriend, do you think we'd be avoiding. absolutely. >> that is what i think. i think we'd be in a very different

circumstance. well, somebody else probably would have done it. but not him, and of course, what we're doing is what we always do, and we're talking about it loads. and he's now super duper famous, so he's just inspiring the next guy who's currently probably brewing somewhere. >> yeah, i feel i feel that people don't do stuff like this for fame anymore, like they did back in the day, because, you know, anybody can get famous just by going on social media and being a horrible dad. >> so there's no need to commit terrorist attacks. i think this was this was really politically motivated. >> i think he should have been on tiktok more. >> yeah. if he was a bad he could be in the american family. family, whatever they're called. >> family. no idea. no family. >> family. no idea. no family. >> they're trying to get tiktok famous. i mean, it's like it's an extreme, kind of depressive, like , nihilistic gesture, isn't like, nihilistic gesture, isn't it? >> yeah, yeah . >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> no, absolutely. but it's also, i mean, the rhetoric. and josh is right, there is this rhetoric on both sides. but people see their side as the only solution to the to the ills of the state. i don't know how democrats can imagine that for a

moment, but they really do believe that. so they see donald trump, you know, they're told this is a fascist. this is he's the orange hitler. so he needs to be destroyed . he's going to to be destroyed. he's going to destroy democracy. >> so you think there's some altruism in there? >> well, i think these people believe they genuinely believe that they're doing something for good. >> and i'm talking when i say that. >> i mean all left, don't you think? >> but. yeah, but don't you think that there are also people who do assassinate for multiple reasons? you got the guy who multiple who killed john lennon? i don't think he was doing it for some moral good. he. he did it because he wanted to be famous. >> yeah. and then there was, you know, the person who shot reagan who wanted to impress jodie foster. so there's a variety of options. >> there wasn't such a good actress. yeah. then reagan would have been better, you know. so >> so do you think these bombs, imply that he didn't think he was going to die? because obviously he died within seconds. >> i think these bombs in play, that it could have been much, much worse than it was. i mean, tragically, somebody did lose their life. and there's two more people. fighting for their lives at the moment. so, i mean, it's

still, you know, a horrific tragedy, but it could have been even worse, anyway, moving on. we've got the guardian now with a warning that british politics is becoming as violent as american politics. josh. >> yeah, uk government adviser warns assassination attempts becoming more likely. now this is john woodcock. he's the uk's government adviser on political violence. and what's interesting here is he gave an interview, but he actually did it on friday before what happened to trump . before what happened to trump. and he was already talking about it. so what this really is, is in response to , to, the what in response to, to, the what happened to various mps in jess phillips, jess phillips, but not just jess phillips, a bunch of people and how, messed up the electoral procedure was basically intimidation , violence, >> who was it coming from? >> who was it coming from? >> it came, unfortunately, from, the predominantly the muslim where it's coming from, not all muslims, but the extremist islamists and banded together and, their behaviour was, despicable, undemocratic ,

despicable, undemocratic, thuggish, and what's. so this guy is calling them out again , guy is calling them out again, not really identifying who he talks about different constituencies or different communities or whatever. not really. he does eventually call about tiptoeing around. >> he says he does many communities. >> it's like, yeah, sorry, this is a this is a real issue. it's, you know, this islamist and far left cranks and this this is something that really struck me when jess phillips was heckled and the amount of intimidation and the amount of intimidation and harassment that was directed at her and her team throughout the campaign tires slashed all the campaign tires slashed all the rest of it. >> and it just, you know, as josh says, not me. i don't want death threats. but as josh says, it came from islamists. and jess said , toxic masculinity. said, toxic masculinity. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> jess said, oh no, this this was this had nothing to do with with the with the islamism or anything like that. >> this was this was just men. it was just men doing it because that's what men do. >> and it's like, well, were there christian men? were there atheist men were there jewish men? it's like, no, there weren't. jess, do you know what,

though? >> all of this means that becoming a politician, you have to be really, really tough. and that sort of suits you, doesn't it? then you'd be warriors now, getting involved in politics like paddy ashdown, if you like, there won't be, there won't be any. it's not very be kind, is it? at the moment. politics. >> no, no, but i mean, the problem is here. this is an embodiment of extremist muslims in this country who have been emboldened by nine months of hate marches of the police , hate marches of the police, pretty much letting them get away with some pretty crazy stuff. and now we're seeing the end results of that, where you have these groups of men marauding , mostly men marauding marauding, mostly men marauding around and thinking that they're untouchable. you see, there was a guy who got arrested in leicester, was it this week? and then a big group of people forming outside saying, we're going to show that we don't stand for this. the guy committed offences, terrorist offences, i mean, and you're going to come along and change the laws of the country. well, this is it. i mean, maybe arguably they're doing it for a democratic means a step towards the end of democracy, isn't it? >> if we can't, if our if our

society doesn't fight for it. >> sorry, sorry, joe, but absolutely it is a step towards it. and the irony here is that countries like the uae, where they are other islamists, are coming in and trying the same stuff. they don't have the freedoms there, but ironically, they can actually deal with it and just immediately deport. well, yeah . well, yeah. >> and people in the, the, the leaders in jordan literally say to europe, like, you're creating an absolute monster here because you're allowing millions. i mean, the number of muslims in the uk is up 44% in a decade. so within you can see within, you know, a couple of decades, we're going to have a pretty substantial, plurality of muslims in this country. and already they've, you know, muslim vote, and a muslim political pressure group say they got 50 politicians elected . they got 50 politicians elected. so you can see this is going to have we're going to reach an inflection point sooner than we think. and, you know, jess phillips almost gave the answer when she said, she, she wanted the islamists removed from the

hall where she was giving her speech, which is actually a very right wing policy to remove violent islamists who are threatening. >> you know, i think once you're an islamist, that's, that's fair game, isn't it? >> well, actually, that's what you know, before before we move on genuinely here, people who aren't uk citizens. brilliant. deport them. but islamists who are uk citizens who are born here. yeah. what what is the answer then? no one ever sort of seems to talk about that. i don't know what the answer is. no, but that's an issue. yeah. >> no absolutely is. and it's interesting to see how radicalised you've become. josh. anyway, we've got the express. >> we've got express. >> we've got express. >> no. and labour have been accused of hypocrisy as they promised to build millions of new houses, but have stopped those houses being built in their own constituencies. >> cressida crucial for test yimby labour as housing ministers council moves to demolish new flats. so labour are all supposed to be yes , in are all supposed to be yes, in my backyards now that's their new thing. we're going to build 1.5 gazillion billion, billion ,

1.5 gazillion billion, billion, is it? how's this million, billion, during the next parliament, but but now there's been a greenwich council led inquiry into a new block of flats that basically hasn't met its planning agreements. they haven't been built properly. they've got the wrong type of cladding. we're all very sensitive about cladding these days. they've got a lack of roof gardens and children's play areas. the footprint's bigger than it was supposed to be. i mean, that's a big one, isn't it? you can't just submit your planning application and then say, i've made it a bit bigger, but a roof garden, i mean, come on, i think we can live without a roof garden. i assume it was in the plan to start with. i think this is a list of stuff that they were supposed to do and didn't. that's my assumption. >> don't wash your roof and eventually it'll be a garden. >> yeah, but you can't buy a flat assuming it's got a roof garden. >> and then when you get there, it hasn't been done. >> but you're in greenwich. that's going to be the least of your problems. >> well, so this is where we are now. and then the funny thing is that the mp in the area is the new housing minister. and of

course, of course, he's trying to get potentially get these flats demolished because they've been mis built. so it's kind of a bit of a non—story him that's trying to do it. >> it's the council doing it because they didn't meet the premier, but he finds himself in this position now. and i think all these mps who are talking about the need to build. but of course it's this whole thing is sort of like everybody, they want everybody else to do all the building and to take on the extra people in their community and the resources that would be required for that and not actually do it themselves. but, it's an inherited problem, but it's an inherited problem, but it seems like it's something that they have sort of been naughty, this company and then, you know, they rather than tear it all down, do what they can to fix it. and then find the company or whatever. yeah. that's it. if you want to hire me, greenwich council. >> yeah, but it's got to be a heads on spikes thing because, you know, like developers will start factoring in the how to use that kind of rhetoric anymore. >> because we can't build the spikes anyway. the daily express now and disgraced snp, former leader humza yousaf is being investigated over claims he used taxpayers money as a bribe to get his family out of gaza. he

wasn't smuggling them out in a motorhome as well, was he? >> josh? right. >> josh? right. >> it's, humza yousaf probe over £250,000 funding for gaza aid agency. so yeah, just it's a it's a huge coincidence. but he had a meeting with some people from gaza. he donated this money and then the next day his family got out. >> what what how how does this happen? >> what a great quiz this is, but forgetting the stuff about his family, there are still issues because, first of all, it was recommended that about 100 to 200,000 was would be donated to 200,000 was would be donated to unicef, which is a different part of the un. >> and that's a legitimate, legitimate provides humanitarian aid instead , he donated it to aid instead, he donated it to unwra, which is also part of the un, but a lot of controversy around it because members of unwra took part in october 7th, raping, killing, family, jewish families, raping jewish women and also, did they get promoted for that or fired? >> well, this is it. so this i

mean, no, seriously, it's like the unrwa is a is a really, a very, messed up organisation because they were created in 1948, but they keep the palestinian people in perpetual, statelessness in terms of they're always going to be refugees. they take billions from governments across the world. they use that money to teach hate. loads of unrwa, centres have been found with, bomb making equipment in it and weapons and whatever they essentially are very arguably augned essentially are very arguably aligned with hamas. and so the fact that he gave this money to them, and it also turns out this money was from, was meant to go towards malawi , rwanda, zambia towards malawi, rwanda, zambia and pakistan from a 10 million. and he took the money from there. so we do need to ask how he was allowed to just sort of unilaterally make this decision, in terms of the more conspiracy led that he gave the money and his family got out. led that he gave the money and his family got out . that's his family got out. that's arguably i think the first part is wrong enough for him to look into. >> yeah. i mean, this whole

thing seems to stink. chris. >> he's i mean, it's just unbelievably narcissistic, isn't it? it's like like it's just blows my mind that he would think he has to be a narcissist to think that this is okay. you can't just say to your mates, oh, we're all going on holiday. everyone put in £100 and then you book a different country than the one you said you were going to. but, like, what are you doing? on the other hand, how many men would pay 250 grand to get their in—laws closer? i think that is really. >> i'll give you £10 to keep them anyway, i know that's part two. done. coming up, we take a look inside the clinic for crypto and

welcome back to headliners. we've got the telegraph now. and labour have said that drugging, sterilising and maiming children in the name of gender ideology isn't a good idea. and blue haired communists aren't happy about it. cressida exactly. >> trans activists putting vulnerable young people at risk. so streeting. so wes streeting has turned a corner on this and is now acknowledging that trans in children is not always a good idea . and he's saying that the idea. and he's saying that the activists language is putting children at risk. fair enough. so the tories had already decided they were going to put a temporary ban on puberty blockers for kids, and labour have now decided they're going to make that permanent. and as you say, the trans activists are not happy about it and they're saying that streeting is going to have blood on his hands , to have blood on his hands, which is it seems to be the

opposite of what's going to happen, because leo streeting is saying we're not going to do any vivisection on on children who think that they're trans, which is, you know, often seen as a social contagion that catches on. >> and it's quite often with vulnerable kids who have autism or other conditions. >> well , wes streeting or other conditions. >> well, wes streeting has done this crazy thing, right. he looked at something called evidence or in this case, the lack of it . there's a 400 page lack of it. there's a 400 page cass report that showed that there wasn't the evidence that trans children are allowing them to take puberty blockers and surgery and all that other thing . surgery and all that other thing. has any long term benefits or sure, in fact, negative impact on them. so. >> well, this is but the activists are still peddling this idea that if you don't intervene, you're going to have suicide on your hands. >> i guess the problem is that the activists are ideologists, so it's a religion to them. so you're never going to be able to convince them that their religion is wrong. well, they're sprouting some insane stuff online. >> they just go, oh my god, i think, oh, and just said something about trans suicides going for he didn't say going

through the roof, but he, you know, but a lot. this is what a lot of the trans activists are saying that how this has led this, this , this banning of this, this, this banning of puberty blockers, as has led to this. now, what is a social contagion is suicide. so when they are spreading that rhetoric, then i would argue that that does far worse. it's always been this a false rhetoric anyway. it's always been lots of made up statistics about violence towards how trans people are the most at vulnerable risk in the world, and all this stuff and it turns out the numbers were black prostitutes, trans women in brazil. and this was their statistic to prove that all around the world. so getting all off all of that, we have a new labour minister for health. he's looked at the evidence closely. not only that, he's come much more from the other side, where he used to be much more closely associated with the trans ideologues. he has seen the evidence. he's changed his mind, he's come out, he's doing his job, which is to protect children. this is the greatest

medical scandal of our era. and what's incredible for me is to see the reaction to this someone being an adult. >> well, yeah, because some of these some of these people are so jolyon maugham, who's a lawyer and director at the good law project, so ostensibly a respectable person whose opinion we should listen to has said that the wes streeting is going to his ban is going to kill trans children. >> i mean, that's disgusting, flagrantly ridiculous. and also, you know, potentially defam ato ry. defamatory. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> well, and these people are on borrowed time, aren't they? because this is crumbling. and i dread to think what kind of, he's going to be facing some trouble in the future, isn't he? yeah. yeah. >> well moving on, we've got the guardian now, and a brewery is helping out prisoners by teaching them how to make booze and how to smuggle it in the rectal passages. >> i assume it's not prison hooch. >> is that how you drink it? >> is that how you drink it? >> it gives it to the bloodstream quicker. >> oxford brewery helps cut reoffending rates by training jail leavers to make ale. it's

this good beer, says ted thomas. jefferson softens the temper, cheers the spirits and promotes health. but it does also cause bar fights, doesn't it? but that's overlooked here. that's not important. so these guys at tap social movement in oxford, that was co—founded by two former ministry of justice advisers. so these people think they know what they're talking about and they've they've started employing prisoners, basically. and it's all going very well. they've had 50 people that they've employed since 2016, and only a 6% reoffending rate, compared to 50% on average. so that's that's stunning, isn't it? >> how was was the difference again 6% compared to 50. >> that's . >> that's. >> that's. >> yeah that's crazy. and i don't trust that that seems too good. >> well it's a relatively small sample isn't it. they might have found 50 people who they think were particularly unlikely to reoffend. >> you know what the people who engagein >> you know what the people who engage in studies like this are probably people who are less likely to reoffend. i think it's a self—selecting sample. >> i don't know, i it makes sense. >> they're teaching people a

trade . they're providing people trade. they're providing people with a sense of worth. this is a it's you know, it's a great step that seems like far right extremism. >> well , okay. >> well, okay. >> well, okay. >> that's literally the definition. please get a far right extreme get off the internet. >> giving people a sense of self—worth. oh my god, you evil nationalist pig. >> so having some self—belief and respecting yourself, are you going to start going to the gym next? >> i've gone on to start successful businesses. >> oh my god, that's evil. >> oh my god, that's evil. >> that's capitalist. >> that's capitalist. >> the question is, they're saying here, should government provide incentives to encourage other businesses to do the same ? other businesses to do the same? yeah. now that might be an overreach. and there's a discussion to be had there. but look at the evidence. look at what works. and if it does help yeah.then what works. and if it does help yeah. then great. >> and that's one thing. that's one thing that the labour government have quite you know, impressed me with is that they look at things that work and they replicate them like wes streeting. i think you were talking about wes streeting looking at hospitals in nhs trusts that try out trials and when they work, he's looking at

replicating that around the country. so if this is a way of getting our feckless criminal class to knuckle down and play straight, it's a good thing. >> yeah, that's a great thing. look, look, the positive story. >> well we haven't got any space for them have we. >> get them out of the prisons and into the brewery. >> get them into the breweries, see if we can arrange that. >> anyway, the times now. and are you addicted to bitcoin? well there's a clinic that could help you. do they take it as payment? >> josh. right >> josh. right >> well i don't know. it depends on what the rate is. yeah. inside the clinic treating crypto addiction. this is, it's a £4,000 a week rehab centre in the scottish countryside. and it turns out there's a 1 in 10 people invested in crypto that says it's become a problem for them. and there's 5.5 million people in the uk have, invested in crypto. i did i lost £400 for my wife and my wife did the sister who was like our friend, he like made like two grand. it's like, josh, you gotta do it. i don't want to do it. i know we've got to do it. we're

missing out. and i was like, did it? and then just lost it. like gutted . but, but then you read gutted. but, but then you read some sort of statistics where now, the big one, whatever it is, is now at a super high, bitcoin is now gone up 690% or something. and now i'm like, i missed out. i'm stupid because i was an idiot. i didn't go, everyone says but don't go bitcoin though. i've got the new one for you and miriam or whatever it is. and then that's the one that went to nothing. yeah. but it is a problem because really what it is, is gambling. yeah. >> well yeah, because it's not like investing in companies that pay a like investing in companies that pay a dividend and grow and actually provide something useful. >> it's essentially a valueless token that. yeah. and it's only just based on people's belief in a lot of ways it's like fiat currency. >> currency. >> it's just it's just gambling isn't it ? and they've all got isn't it? and they've all got gambling addiction. it's like b.f. skinner's rats, you know, occasionally you get a reward. and so they keep coming back and it gets worse and worse. yeah. apparently 21% of these people are having their treatment funded by the nhs. that's a lot of money from the taxpayer. >> are you serious? according to

this, i'm sure, i'm sure. >> wes streeting i'll take a look at it and, well, hopefully he's going to stop it. >> honestly, if you if you lose all your money through gambling bitcoin. >> i don't want my taxes that i managed to pay through not gambling away all my money on bitcoin . i don't want that going bitcoin. i don't want that going to these feckless ideas . sorry, to these feckless ideas. sorry, i'm using the word feckless a lot, but we are talking about modern britain anyway. the guardian now in german , guardian now in german, apparatchiks have found a new thing to ban to distract from the abject failure of their experiment in multiculturalism. cressida, i was supposed to be apparatchiks . apparatchiks. >> nice, german city banned silent fox gesture in schools over similarity to far right sign. can i do the sign? yeah. do it. i don't want to like. so it's like, keep it up. it's like this. on what are you, nazi ? this. on what are you, nazi? >> i don't understand, though, but it's like. but that's like the rock on sign, isn't it? >> no, that's the rock. come on. no the other way around. that bit's it's. it's a fox. and apparently in schools you say to kids, come on, do the listening fox and then the. i've never heard the listening fox. i've never heard of it either until i

read this , apparently. read this, apparently. >> isn't it because you tell them to be quiet by bringing the thumb and the fingers together? so it's like, well, you guys are the parenting experts. >> i've never heard of it. my dad used to just say, shut up, and that was how he got us to be quiet. >> did he do the hand movement as well? was that his? >> he didn't follow through. look anyway, the point is, as long as his trousers were okay. >> well done, mr wetton. mr >> well done, mr wetton. mr >> so now it's upsetting people in germany . obviously there's a in germany. obviously there's a big turkish population in germany. and, what's the link to turkey? it's far right. >> it's a far right, yes. even though they're turkish. >> so in turkey , it's a wolf. >> so in turkey, it's a wolf. wolf salute to call it where you do this wolf thing. i think they've got a whole range. >> you can do the bunny rabbit if you're if you're not that far. >> right. and grey wolf, you can do a butterfly if you know you're not if you're in the green party, they're hardline nationalist and islamist with hatred shown towards kurds, jews , hatred shown towards kurds, jews, christians, armenians, greeks, the eu and the us. that's pretty much everyone there sound like greek guys . greek guys. >> the other reason they don't

want this in schools is because of its regulatory style. it's too dogmatic and condescending for children. >> i don't believe, literally don't believe that's what it is. i think that they're only saying that after the fact. yes, they're banning it because of this connection. yeah. and then people are saying, well, why should we lose a part of our culture that's been an innocent part of the silent fox or whatever it is listening . fox whatever it is listening. fox and now, because it has this connection to this horrible far right group that we've essentially imported part of them right now, we have to come up with some other stupid reason. oh, the regulatory style is too dogmatic. and it's like, no, that's you doing it after the fact , when actually you the fact, when actually you should stick to your guns and 90, should stick to your guns and go, no, we like our listening fox. that's part of our culture. >> and it's got nothing to do with, you know, it's like if you're hailing a bus, you're not re—enacting hitler at nuremberg. >> i know, but then there's never any buses when you're around. >> when you're doing it. yeah >> when you're doing it. yeah >> okay, well, that's part three. >> done. stay tuned. as we discuss men cheating on women because they moan too much and how you're less likely to be involved in a

welcome back to headliners. and i'd just like to give a shout out to fraser danbury, our producer, who is moving on to pastures new. he's been absolutely fantastic. so we wish

you all the best for the future. fraser. may the winds carry you . fraser. may the winds carry you. that sounded like i was trying to do some sort of scottish thing. it didn't really work, anyway, we've got the telegraph now, and apparently we're living under austerity, but the government somehow still has taxpayers money left over to spaff on feminist witch conferences. josh >> yeah, i said fraser is leaving in a two years. >> he showed me the ropes. >> he showed me the ropes. >> indeed, anyway, is he into shibari ? what's shibari? shibari? what's shibari? >> no, it's much worse than that. it's a tv production. >> you're much more painful and humiliating. >> all right , feminist witches >> all right, feminist witches will cast spells at taxpayer funded academic conference. on god. yeah. this is, so we 8.9 billion goes on university research, and i don't think it gives any figures as to what this does, but this is called witching . the institution, witching. the institution, academia and feminist witchcraft, you know , but there

witchcraft, you know, but there are some interesting things here. but there's something that cresta, i think would like here. there's, there's you can have a promise they can do a hexes for the guy who persistently talks over you . over you. >> over you. >> well, they think they can, but they won't find one tall enough for headliners >> yes, it's all a bit much isn't it? can you really have spells and rituals at an academic conference? well, yeah. >> well . >> well. >> well. >> and i've got like a queer tarot reader and an interdisciplinary feminist researcher. i mean, is this is this a taxpayer funded kind of feminist research or is this a taxpayer funded conference, or is this a netflix special now that you're a strong independent scottish woman, i think we should put you forward for this. >> absolutely. send you along and see how you would make a fun documentary, a witch's ladder. >> what's a witch's ladder ? and >> what's a witch's ladder? and you can weave into our various griefs, angers, hurts , griefs, angers, hurts, frustrations. oh yeah, they sound fun . they sound, they sound. >> it's a little bit anti—male, isn't it? all of this is it? >> anti—male. i don't know if it's just anti. >> can you imagine if there was a workshop where you were allowed to create? what was it , allowed to create? what was it, allowed to create? what was it, a hex on the woman that does

something. i mean, that wouldn't be. >> my mom's a witch in her. >> my mom's a witch in her. >> really? yeah. >> really? yeah. >> like a real witch. >> like a real witch. >> yeah, well, she thinks she is . >> yeah, well, she thinks she is. >> yeah, well, she thinks she is. >> is she an academic witch? >> is she an academic witch? >> no, no, she's not that bad. >> no, no, she's not that bad. >> she's got a witchy ladder. >> she's got a witchy ladder. >> no, but she's always going on like witches. i'm which, you know, because it's like reclaiming the word which i used to have a friend who was into joss sticks and stones and stuff, and he was a which he just went to festivals. >> i love joss stone. >> i love joss stone. >> anyway, moving on. we've got the daily star now and a british glamour model has the answers to happy relationship is part of it being a glamour model? >> chris i think it might be. and also what's her what her aldi is going to be like, men cheat because women moan too much. they don't know how to pleasure them. that's her opinion. she's not just i mean, she's a sex worker, so she thinks she knows, she probably does. she's a racy model, and she claims that men cheat because women moan too much, and. yeah, but, i mean, a lot of women moaning is because they got liberated in the first place, isn't it? like, i mean, we don't like going to work as much as we're supposed to, i think. >> would you rather be at home with, you know, a stove with

some hot? >> very unlikely to find out, aren't i? but rachel reeves is hell bent on closing the gender pay gap. l hell bent on closing the gender pay gap. i want a politician who will widen the gender pay gap. that would be great. you know, so wide that he's at work. i'm at home. i think that would be brilliant, >> but this lady, if anybody's watching and has a job, this lady is , she thinks that she lady is, she thinks that she picks up some of the slack from the unhappy men. >> she gets a lot of bookings. and i think this is an advert. >> it says. >> it says. >> what? says what? they don't understand is that moaning is unattractive . no, i think my unattractive. no, i think my wife understands that. she uses it quite deliberately as a way of keeping me. she's not doing it to decorate the house to. oh, that you think the whole thing. yeah. yeah. we're in the middle of decorating. >> no, i meant her being like a bauble to entertain you. no. of course. >> no, no no, no. but, you know, women like to moan because that's how stuff gets done. really? yeah. i think. >> is that how stuff gets done? i don't i don't think, you know, that's how they get men self tim jobs like managed to create the

iphone by moaning at people. >> no. but i'm sure his wife was like i'm so sick of this music. >> okay, get me a thing . this thing. >> i think the iphone got invented because men want women's approval, so they're always trying to outdo each other, right? i know you two can't imagine that, and so eventually, that's how stuff gets done. >> i don't know, ijust gets done. >> i don't know, i just want to get some stuff done. >> well, we've got the daily meal now, and apparently women are less likely to be involved in a serious car crash than men. but i want to see the stats on how long it takes to parallel park. josh. >> this there's a caveat here, so let me read it. >> this there's a caveat here, so let me read it . research so let me read it. research shows women drivers are less likely to be involved in severe crashes compared to men. so they looked at the statistics that there is there's 28, lower risk of a severe injury. so the idea is that if you are in an accident, yeah, it's a severe one was more likely to be a man because a man testosterone is going to they're going to speed or take greater risks, but it doesn't say that women that makes women better drivers . they makes women better drivers. they could well be a the, the, the

statistically more likely to be in an accident with a woman, i don't know what do you get cheaper car insurance though. >> don't we. >> don't we. >> probably just because of this whole severe thing that's racist against men. >> yeah, >> yeah, >> i don't know. it's the same as the suicide thing, isn't it? we have a go all the time, but you lot are actually better at it. so in the end, the more methodical statistics. well, you just a lot more committed. you are. you're very. you're very bold characters, aren't you? typically, we occupy the great middle. you tend to be the lunatics on either end. >> right. >> right. >> well moving on, we've got the daily mail and sadiq khan's expensive bus stops are dangerous for blind people. according to blind people's dogs, cressida , guide dogs avoid dogs, cressida, guide dogs avoid sadiq khan's floating bus stop because they think they're unsafe, according to research. >> that's what the dogs actually said, so they set up these floating bus stops. they're a bus stop that is in kind of the middle of the road. so before you get to the pavement, there's a cycle lane that you have to go through just to spice things up a bit. i mean, even if you're

not blind, that doesn't sound like a great idea. >> they're mad. i mean, you sort of have to cross. >> it feels like they're in the middle of the road. i know it's just cyclists coming past, but, i mean, cyclists are the worst because they don't slow down. >> well, yeah. and that'll do. a cyclist going into whatever miles an hour they do. so anyway, unsurprisingly, the dogs aren't into this, so they've built a lab. i mean, just take them to the street. you don't need a black lab. >> do you think jeremy vine is going to photograph, like, film himself driving into a guide dog now and try and blame it on the guide dog? >> yes. yeah well, no, because the guide dogs won't get involved. >> i feel like the guide dogs are just don't want to be like they don't want to update their training. yeah, you know what i mean? i feel like i graduated ten years ago and i've been it's like, oh, i don't want to have to do a new module. >> i mean, in fairness, if they graduated ten years ago, they're going to be dead pretty soon. >> so. >> so. >> oh yeah. yeah. so sad. >> oh yeah. yeah. so sad. >> sorry. that's a bit of a that's a bit of a dull noise. >> but that's what blind dogs. yeah. >> the shoe is nearly over. so let's take another quick look at tomorrow's front pages. the daily mail has. trump says evil won't win . the telegraph has. won't win. the telegraph has. trump says god saved my life.

the guardian has us reels after assassination attempt on trump at rally . they're up to date. at rally. they're up to date. the financial times leads with trump calls for unity in face of evil. after surviving assassination attempt. and those were front pages. and that's all were front pages. and that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests, josh and cressida. i'll be back tomorrow at 11 pm. with nick dixon and carrie marks. and if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast and see you tomorrow. till then, good night. >> god bless. bye. thank you. bye bye, fraser. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. this is your gb news weather update provided by the met office. many of us are ending this weekend on a reasonably calm note. we do have some clear spells around, particularly across wales central , southern across wales central, southern areas of england, northern ireland and western scotland. also seeing a dry start to the

night. there is a bit of rain and drizzle around though for the north eastern areas, particularly developing and pepping up particularly developing and pepping up across the firth of forth into edinburgh, where dunng forth into edinburgh, where during the second half of the night many of us though seeing temperatures hold up around 11 to 13 c for your early morning rush hour. then on monday there will be a little bit of cloud around, certainly for the north—east of scotland. some drizzle underneath all of that, perhaps some misty, murky conditions, particularly around some coastal areas. but generally further towards the west. there will be some quite bright sunshine first thing still, though, that drizzle perhaps lingering through the central belt. northern ireland getting off to a pretty fine start for this new working week. some sunny spells in there and also for parts of northern england. it will be much brighter compared to recent days that we have seen. feeling a touch better here for the far south though, it is this area of rain that we have our eyes on. this will be turning very heavy very quickly as we head throughout the morning with some thundery downpours possible. torrential rain there could certainly be some difficulties on the roads and travelling so do take care here. and there is a rain warning in force for south west england and wales throughout much of monday. that

will steadily push its way northwards, perhaps skirting into eastern areas as well. feeling a little cool underneath that rain. 1819 c. but the northern half of the uk faring quite well, around 20 to 21 c here, just with an ice or shower to watch out for into tuesday, that area of low pressure that's bringing the rain to the southwest will just sort of slowly grind to a halt across some central areas. so it is still with us. the band of rain will be swirling its way around first thing on tuesday. for parts of wales, the midlands into parts of yorkshire and lancashire as well behind that we'll start to see some sunny spells and showers developing again . some of those will be on again. some of those will be on the sharp side at times when they they looks like it could be a slightly drier day for many of us, but there is further rain on the cards towards the end of the week. by by. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

short at the last hurdle. >> okay, here come the numbers. 30 years of hurt become 58, which will now move on to 60 years of hurt at least unless we win the world cup in two years time. but let's be honest, england were beaten by the better side. spain yesterday. >> in other news, donald trump speaks out after the attempted assassination with a plea for unity, claiming he was saved by god alone. as president biden calls to lower the temperature of political rhetoric during his oval office address, should a shooting at donald trump's rally in pennsylvania calls on all of us to take a step back , take us to take a step back, take stock of where we are , how we go stock of where we are, how we go forward from here, and a royal return to wimbledon. >> the princess of wales makes

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